GYM GIRLS LOCKER ROOM - Gym Girl Chat: #GymTok Dying, Celebrities On Ozempic and Run Clubs Replacing Dating Apps?!

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

EP 13 - we're calling a meeting!! 📢 there’s a lot of talk in the gym/fitness space at the moment, so Syd brought in her reinforcements (aka the girls) to deep dive into it all... in this special episode the girls unpack: is GymTok dead, F45 training, the jacksfit tea, thoughts on ozempic, marathon weight gain and is Strava the newest dating app!? WATCH the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/6wlSZc6xJ9Q connect with the girls: https://www.instagram.com/mollyellenlloyd/ https://www.instagram.com/laurenknott_fit/ https://www.instagram.com/alex.tolmie/ 💘 join the GGLR community: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/gymgirlslockerroom/ FACEBOOK COMMUNITY PAGE - https://bit.ly/3TqhxDG TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@gymgirlslockerroom/ 📲 find Syd on socials: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/sydgrows/ TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@sydgrows/ Want to work with Gym Girls Locker Room? Email us: [e-mail] GYMSHARK - 10% off code: SYDNEY

Is gym talk really dead? Bum bum bum! It's like, well what gym talk are we talking about? Because if I was taking steroids, which I'm not, do you really think I'm going to tell this random guy that I've just met? Strava and Run Clubs are the new dating sites. They are. Are you actually overlooking at me with a blank face?

I know exactly what you're talking about. Is that the guy that shouts down the camera? Oh my gosh, he is all over my page. What is marathon weight gain? Marathon weight gain is real. It's the boys on TikTok that need a sports bar more than me, honestly. Hello and welcome back to the Gym Girls of Cologne podcast hosted by me, Sydney Cassidy, aka Syd Grose.

Guys, I'm kind of excited for today. We have gone rogue. We've gone different. We're all about bringing in new things for you guys, keeping it fun, keeping it fresh. I thought this would be a good idea. If you guys love it, let us know. Send us a message at gymgirls.com on Instagram, or I think there's actually a comment box below Spotify if you do listen on Spotify or on YouTube. Basically basically just let us know how you find it okay so here's the vision I was thinking like there's a lot of stuff going on in the world of health fitness gym everything in between so I've enlisted some help we've got some reinforcements

and I thought it would be fun for us girlies to have a little gossip episode a little discussion talk about what's going on in the space at the moment and then this is something that we can review in let's say we do every other episode every two guest episodes I just thought it'd be cool to discuss hot topics um so that's exactly what we did I brought on some of my besties who are also in the fitness space um it was I think a really good episode I think there's a lot to unpack a lot of things are going on is gym talk really dead is running the new place to date and is that where everyone's meeting their match now is that the new tinder is that the new hinge yeah we discussed it we spoke about like the responsibility of a content creator and how feral the online space can actually be we also discussed the latest ozempic

trend we spoke about the celebrities have been um known to do it so far and how we feel about that i don't know interesting anyway this is a really great episode i know you guys will love it as much as we did and i think that's pretty much it so on with the episode hello and welcome back to the gym girls locker room i'm here with those besties we have just been recording for like an hour and then we realized we weren't well i realized i hadn't turned the bloody audio on so that's fun anyway yep some more ready to yep we're warmed and ready to go yeah we are actually yeah at least now it's gonna be more concise but um okay we're here today because we well actually let me introduce you guys first so here's Molly well audio listeners you're just gonna have to imagine what they look like

Molly Lauren Alex Goose is here but she's just wondering yeah she's pottering around but um we have called a meeting today because we've decided that you know i've not had a girly like chit chat episode for a while and there's a few things we need to talk about. We want to just chat with the girls, have a little catch up and also just like break down some things that have been going on and maybe this will be a regular thing. I feel like it'd be kind of cool just to talk about things going on in the community,

good or bad, drama or wholesome and everything in between. So I love that you called us and like, did you literally have this idea when we were at f45 this morning yes i did i had uh we had a guest council and i was like shit um it's like that do you know that tiktok just sounded like that tiktok the guy's like shit shit shit shit so i did but i also thought like that could be kind of fun you've been wanting to do this for a while you've wanted to be the girlies the more chilled like i guess they're

lovely but you also you some of them you meet like 10 minutes before you do the episode so you don't get that like and i think it's like also because it's like with guests it's a conversation but it's more them whereas i kind of just wanted to have like a space where like maybe I will see how much you guys like it or enjoy it. Vote was off. Yeah. Get on the boat. But I feel like it'd be really nice to kind of add it like once every other episode or

once every two or three episodes just to talk about what's going on and to like, I don't know, have more of a chit chat, you know? It's been so nice to like hear where, here and see where you guys are listening to us like honestly I love seeing the story shares so um over on Instagram at gym girls locker room um but yeah it's just really cool to see so I kind of thought like yeah let's go for a chit chat vibe because I think it'd be kind of nice loads of people will do it while they're painting or at the gym which is surprising yeah I love that you went for while they're painting before at the gym I know like a wall said paints yeah literally no because I don't know why I just love it or like people are walking their dogs or like listening

in the car but the one that really surprises me is I didn't expect, okay, now I'm saying this out loud, I don't know if this is weird, but I didn't expect people to be listening to the podcast at the gym. I get what you mean. Do you know what I mean? Is it aggressive enough for that? I wouldn't ever, I wouldn't ever, I don't think I'd listen to a podcast in the gym.

Side note, at the gym, people have, I know I'm interested to hear your answer to this actually but like in the gym what what do you listen because i know some people need like aggressive music and it's the kind of music they would never listen to outside of the gym but they're like for the gym i need it because it gets me through i listen to like sad songs do you no i'm listening to literally like disney it depends on my mood I'm happy well I have been listening to the new Taylor album

whilst I was doing like Bulgarian splits I was like but Danny I love him I'm having his face so yeah kind of like

is a bit of a weird match but usually I'm not gonna lie I keep it the same I have literally like three songs and I listen to them

like really they're like the only things I listen to no way what songs I don't oh same. I have literally like three songs and I listen to them like... Really? They're like the only things I listen to. Whoa, no way. What are the songs? I don't... Oh my God, I deleted Spotify because I have no storage.

She's just like 10 hours of rain noises. I listen to... I listen to Going Bad by Drake. Brief words. What's the other ones? Know anesthetist which is like a drama based song and what's the other one it's probably like a 21 savage one yeah which are like really rogue but for the most part i actually train without really yeah oh my gosh i can run without but to gym without music you can run without music, I ran like majority of my marathon without music.

Until the last 6K, I was music free. Daisy's the same. Yeah, I've been taking a little bit more running recently and I kind of like it. I always would listen to music and be like, oh my God, I'm going to listen to music as a distraction. But then I think because I've been trying to go, because I've been trying to run to like clear my head you do get into a bit of a meditative state you're just like you're not like it's weird though because it's like you're not like thinking like really deeply but things like kind of like pass through your head and then yeah yeah it's well weird but I like doing that to like an emotive song like uh yeah main character

energy i get that romanticizing your life yeah yeah just something about podcast on a long run yeah i'm podcast on walks that's me like you will always find me listening to podcasts while i'm walking but when am i not walking yeah always so true when i bumped into you walking goose i was listening to your podcast oh my god i was like i was like i can't let her know right now i'm literally like i was listening to you and then i was like oh wait wait but that's what you would have wanted when you were younger you know like when you were like a fangirl or something you're like and you're like oh i'm wearing their merch what if i saw them today i'm really trying to become a podcast girl yeah what better place to start than like i'll listen to Megan's why not feature on one so what's important

no but it's so funny because people don't I feel like this yeah still people that don't listen to podcasts but I think when you find a good one you're just like yes give me more a podcast is I am so easily distracted so I need to really focus on what I'm listening to. So if I'm like doing something, I've like missed 10 minutes of it. I need to be like concentrated. That's me with audiobooks. I'm like, what just happened this whole last chapter?

I was completely out of it. Back I go. I really enjoyed the music actually today. Oh my God, that playlist was banging yeah we we honestly we've been unstoppable today we've been at a 45 which is like functional Molly yes there's a cute dog next to us like every five minutes she just points at the dog um but f45 as we know is like functional fitness for 45 minutes and it's like a group based activity and lauren is a hybrid queen and she has been trying to get us onto it and we've been avoiding but then really after after that like oyinda episode i was like right

okay i'm ready to give it a go and we did go we did in fact go this morning minus alex r.o.p i'm so sorry um rejected we went to it at 6 a.m catching the worm yep we were in a team of four yep it was a team activity going through our places it was it was hard it was humbling but the music got us through that's where we were what was the vibe the vibe was like um it was remixes it was like i'm sexy and i know at one point it was like girls be looking at it had like bhangra music but like a remix but i really loved like that but it was like it was such good remixes like i need that playlist okay i'll sort you out i'll go i'll get it i'll get it hit me up i've never heard remixes like

that i think it might be soundcloud yeah i wouldn't be surprised i think it might be she goes to f45 for the music honestly not the workouts we have djs on saturday so like sometimes on a saturday we have a really sick DJ. Oh my God. How fun. And he's like, he's reading the room. He's like,

you know, when it's getting tough, he like drops, drops the beat and then you're all like, Alex, they did those like hanging things, you know,

and then you've got to like do your legs up and I literally couldn't even hang. Like a twist, a hanging twist whilst you've already been doing like 20 minutes of hard like hit training i've never tried my hands were so sweaty i was like i can't even hang you know what i think they do that on purpose though because the station you're the instructor don't you plan it no oh it's globally

the same workout every single day yeah everywhere also it never changes no no not every single day like what we did today they'll do in the us australia but wow yeah so we're all insane so you're not that special sorry guys but but i think it's they put the really difficult thing after the bit at the front you know like the ergs the ski the row because then it's like you're staring at that person that's on the ski or the row like god hit your target quicker because I'm literally dying here hanging out I know I mean maybe that's just what's in my head I don't know it was it was brutal and then Sid had the idea of podcast oh yeah then I literally jumped on a call with Ellis um who for anyone new listening is my sister who like works for Jim Giles Ockram and we had like a random call

at like seven in the morning so I was like I've had an idea let me just brief you in and she was like Jesus this is a good idea I wonder if you need to just do it. Maybe this is like your most productive hour. And I do feel kind of unstoppable. I know. It does that. When you get back at seven o'clock, you're like, I literally wouldn't even be awake. I have FOMO.

And I've done a workout. Yeah. Like you're walking home like, yeah, I've already worked out. Well, we also stood outside talking for ages. And I was like, oh my God, I've like completely defeated the point of doing an early workout. And then I looked at my phone when I was cycling away and it was still seven o'clock. I was like, yes!

It was really cool. Well, where did we go from it last time we were talking about this? Well, I was trying to break you guys in from F45 to High Rocks because we're going to do a team relay. Well, Lauren has decided she's given she's we've dipped our toes in

we've done one we've done literally one session that wasn't even High Rocks that wasn't even High Rocks

and now we're like we're hybrid athletes now we're like okay we're hybrid athletes we're going to do a group team session with really

matching outfits. Yeah, we have clarified. It has to be in matching cute outfits. I think we'll struggle to agree on an outfit though. That will be the hardest part. That will be a hard part. Or all the same colour and different styles. Like bridesmaids dresses at weddings.

Yeah, just the same. No, but you choose the colour and everyone gets a different style because it makes them feel comfortable. We do the same with high roll. Absolutely. This mid-sized girly is not wearing a spot bra.

What are you wearing? A top over it. She's just letting them jingle. This is how nature wants to do it. This is what God intended. Look away, boys. No, because that would actually, like, gravity would not be on your side.

No. Right? No! I mean, I can only dream. They're not judging me. I've met anyone. I probably could get away with it, but I think this is too much of people's imagination. I'd be so fine.

I'm the only big titty committee in the room. i would say i'm since i'm mid i could go either way she can still wear a bit of a sports bra i can still just say there's boys on tiktok that need a sports bra more than me honestly get that man a bra like when i did i was like what was it when you were like getting me to bench press you were like molly was you were selling you told me it could make them bigger and then you told molly it could make them smaller i was like well i'm not doing it then just told you what i thought you wanted to do i cannot afford to lose any. I can't do bench press. I have free boob reduction here. Alex is like, fuck.

But yeah, I need to learn to run. So I'm trying to focus. Before we go off on that to do high rocks you need to learn to run right yeah because you've got to do 8k run yeah because with high rocks you've got to do 8k run and all the other stuff and no rest and 8 stations so I feel like I need to tackle

the running first as soon as we've got her done then I'll think about doing High Rocks training and think about the outfits after all that I don't

yeah because right now I can't even do it well I could do it they're all awesome is it fun like do you actually like I mean I do catch myself

like halfway through thinking, why did I sign up to this? But then as soon as it's done, it's like, I'm going again. That was the best thing ever. But it depends if you like really hard things or not. Yeah. You're not meant to like really hard things. They just...

But you kind of do. You like what they do for you. Yeah. And they're learning. The feeling after. And also, at the end of the day just completing it so they're winning itself you don't have to be like going that is that is the thing that's pulling me towards it is like i really do want to and like that's what's

pulling me towards doing something with running and i've got that half marathon like in october but i think it's like everyone everyone's doing the doing the October one yay for signing up but no I was gonna say no no no I said I was gonna sign up and then I showed you the one that I wanted to do yeah which was the main one and you were like oh no I don't think I'm doing that one so I don't know the 13th of October yeah but that's the one I showed Sid and she was like oh I don't know if that's the one I'm MCcr half yeah with the b with the b yeah sid was like i don't know if that's the right one and then that's so i didn't book it oh hold that booking because i'm sorting out a group discount so oh okay yeah i've not booked it yet all right i really want to do it though i paid i've done a half before so

but i think it's like i really do want to just do something where I do something and I have accomplished it. You know what I mean? There's an end point to it. And I know it never really ends, right? But as in like, you know, for me, I feel like when I'm training at the gym and stuff, it's just like this indefinite thing. And like, especially if you're like focused on like strength or like aesthetics, like it kind of, I don't know. I think, do you get where I'm at? Yeah. It'd be nice to I don't know. I think, do you get where I'm at? Yeah.

It'd be nice to work towards something and then be like, yes, I did it. Here's my badge. Although we were saying earlier. You don't always get the badge guys. You'll always get a medal. No,

you won't. You do. Yes, you do. Not a high rock. Well, not a high rock. So run race though you were. Run race. That would be cool. Can, you won't. You do. Yes, you do. Not at High Rock. Well. No, not at High Rock. It's at a run race, though, you were. Run race?

That would be cool. Can't wait for my first run race. But yeah, so when will that... I don't know when we'll do that. We need to get... I think Manchester 2025. Tickets will probably be coming out soon, so I'll keep an eye on them. Goodness gracious me.

Keeps me in the loop. Yeah. We'll be together. We'll be together. of well we won't be together we won't i'll be crawling oh my god i'd love to do it together imagine crossing the like finish line holding hands or something oh yeah but this is what we said last time what are we gonna do full stop what are we gonna do what are we gonna do cliff hang on no but like oh my god i'd love to help you but i have no idea like we we're not at the same paces yeah would you be doing it for a time or just to complete it the thing is this is what i'm fearful of because i am very competitive by nature so I feel like my choice to not participate

so far has somewhat been a little bit like I don't know if I'm ready to like because I know I'm competitive so I feel like I'd want to I'd want to try I'd oh well I just want to try my best you know I mean like I'd want to train I would I'm one of those people I won't do things by half so I will do the training yeah you'll commit like yeah yeah I'd say we're very similar yeah I'll take a look at your Strava and let you know what I think no well you're faster than me and Sid yeah because you seemed comfortable and I was I don't know it does take a while to like adjust to long distance running yeah and especially because you seemed comfortable on that run the other day. You're speedy. I don't know. It does take a while to like adjust to long distance running. Yeah.

And especially because you've done half marathon. Well, you've done a marathon. She's a marathon runner. We're marathon runners. Woo! No, but I think you've got to know whether you're someone that's going to get demotivated if you can't stick to pace or if you are going to use that as fuel to like do better and like motivate you to get through the journey as

well yeah and though right now I feel like I'm more focused on distance like I don't know right now I can't even and right now I don't even I can't even push distance so I feel like yeah should I work on that first more than pace you know I'd say I was telling Sue yesterday to start running for time a little bit like tell yourself you're gonna run for 45 minutes or something and see how far you'd get oh yeah yeah yeah I used to do that all the time like half an hour on my lunch break between work I would literally be like okay I'm doing a little loop around the block and I was like I have to you know I'd always be like okay I'm gonna get 5k though because you know and then you get further and further yeah I know and then because I think for me it's like I I think it would be good to do that.

And they say that with like training as well. Like even in the gym, like say you're doing like an ab workout, like don't necessarily go for reps, but go for time because as you improved and that's why it's so good for like mixed abilities because it's just basically how much can you push yourself within that time frame so I feel like I feel like I could probably do more than I am allowing myself to do do you know I mean whereas if I have a time then if I say to myself I'm going on all of my runs I do at the moment are half an hour I'm going to go on a 40 minute run then maybe I don't know if that would be like a good yeah

you're looking at me like oh I've got so many ideas yeah I'm thinking she's like she's like planning yeah I know yeah I can see Sid getting I mean I'm not gonna put the number out there but a very good time on a half marathon oh I don't know it feels like I it does scare me a bit I'm a bit like freaking hell I said to Jay how many 10k's is a half marathon two and a bit and a bit oh it's two and a bit two and a bit yeah but the bits just for funsies i have done it a 10k but i did a 10k like a couple of months ago but it there was crying involved because it was like i was angry i think i explained on the podcast before but it was like raining and i didn't know I was going for it. So I was unprepared. Maybe we should do a group 10k. I'm also

arranging one of them. There you go. Amazing. Okay. Should we dive into the episode? Yes. Right. Okay. So we have come prepared and we feel like we just need to have a little girls chat about what the heck is going on with all of this drama and I also feel like just bits and pieces that are going on and yeah like I said earlier if this becomes a regular thing it'll just be cool to like catch you guys up on what's going on in the space who's achieving like really cool things and that sort of thing I feel like that would be kind of cool um but yeah so let's kick off because I feel like there's been this whole messy situation online do we want to start off with what we would define gym talk as what each individually just a few of

us talk to you what is gym talk to you oh to me i feel like it's a you go there for like gym inspiration yeah a motivation yeah well I I said earlier when we recorded the episode that literally didn't tell me what to go on for but I was saying for me gym talk has never been a deep thing no like it's never been the way I perceive it is like, it's not serious. Gym talk is just like a genre within TikTok. And I feel like TikTok at its roots is quite unserious. Like it came from COVID. I feel like, especially for like the fitness community,

like I feel like it's a very broad, gym talk is such a broad term. There's so many like niches and like experience levels. And it's also what you make of it. Yeah. Like what you interact with will end up being your gym talk.

So like if I'm interacting with loads of Pilates stuff and I don't know, like healthy meal inspiration and stuff, that's what my gym talk's going to end up being that's what's going to be on my for you page whereas for someone else if they're interacting with like a gym like girl that's like aesthetics like split like day like shredded yeah like if that's what you are interacting with and that's what you're perceiving

as gym talk and what you're enjoying that's what your gym talk is going to look like yeah so when we have this whole situation that's unfolded where these creators have come out and made posts and it kind of all sort of transpired from there saying gym talk's dead it's like well what gym talk are we talking about because i thought it was different for everyone yours is dead everybody knows yours and you but everybody knows that gym like your for you page is for you so different yeah it's for you get it girl get it um like i don't see so so many people like oh my god this was all over my for you page and i'm like i literally didn't see that at all but i see gym content

it's just different um what they're specifically referencing is like the boys james mckenna and their kind of light-hearted dancing videos because they are gym creators that also don't take themselves that seriously and oh my god can you believe you know like do content other than just lifting weights in a gym. God, how dare they? How dare they? So it's like, yeah, and it's kind of all unfolded from there. And people are just like really mad and really angry. And I feel like there's this like new direction with gym talk, with gym talk, where people are just like, they're mad.

And it's like, where are the wholesome vibes yeah it's turning a very positive nice space into a weird negative space and very toxic yeah yeah it's it's feeling icky and it's feeling toxic we're not happy i love being so icky i don't know just it is okay well yeah no it is yeah like if you're taking it that seriously like you don't need to put rules around it like just if you want to make your serious content about getting like this is exactly the exercise you need to do and this is exactly how you need to eat to get absolutely massive like make that content and if people interact with it good but if they want to

make their videos where they're doing some gin they're doing some like just living their life how like they're getting views also them getting views on their stuff you like have you have to remember doesn't stop you getting views on your stuff it's your content and what you put out there that gets you your views that people can watch more than one thing so yeah i think there's also four boys gym talk yeah there's so many more creators out there. Do you know what I mean? Well, I also, I think it's very telling that this is all coming up whilst these boys are like at their peak. Like everybody knows James, McKenna, Sam and like their group are like really, like their friendship group is like a real thing that everyone's really enjoying, consuming.

And it's different and it's light-hearted and it's just not you watch their content and you feel like you're a part of it and so I feel like there's a sense of jealousy and of just wanting to kind of it's very easy to drag people down it's actually way easier to do so and do well off of it than to build people up and so I feel like these creators are just trying to get a bit of that they get trying they can see these boys are popping off and they're just trying to take a bit yeah yeah I'll have a bit of your success yeah it's a bit mean it is well it doesn't make you want to follow them either like if I see you for the first time and it's because I've seen you a video of you dragging someone else down it's not gonna make me

go click follow love that but it's mad that some people do they do love it yeah people love drama but the whole thing with these boys is that like they're fun they're light-hearted they clearly have a passion for the gym but also they are so why then put such a negative tint on that like well also we were saying as well about how like the okay let's let's just take the American gym community and the British gym community they are very different like within the industry we know this and I'm sure as like viewers you'll be able to tell that like the the content that the different creators make is like vastly different like American is very again not to like this is just a generalization but like the American is much more like aesthetic

and like a little bit more serious and more like you know gym culture whereas the british stuff is a little bit more just like raw unfiltered yeah it's less one extreme to the other i think as well i i don't know whether this is me completely unsupported research so please don't quote me on this um but like i think in america with maybe with because of their obesity problem and things like there is very like extreme like you you can be extremely unhealthy eating terribly not exercising be like terribly overweight and then there's people on the other side of it who would like not touch a single bit of junk food ever like gym every day regimented and it feels a lot more like polarized yeah whereas in the uk i think it's just a bit like yeah i'll go to a run club on

saturday yeah i'll do this yeah go to the gym like go to pure gym but then like you're happy to have a takeaway on a friday night like there is almost that kind of more inbuilt balance from like from what i can perceive yeah there's nothing wrong with the two no you you're great your aesthetic you look fantastic. You're relatable. You're funny. I see a bit of me in you. Fantastic.

Yeah, just follow who you want to follow. Don't drag the other one down. You can be in this space without, you're not taking up all the room. It's unlimited room. There isn't, you know what I mean? There's space for everyone. Yeah, like you don't need to drag other creators down to boost yourself up and like rip on, don't know just stay focused on what you want if you want to make content do it for the reasons you like joined and do it for the reasons you want to make content don't because if you've come on to tiktok because you want to make content

dragging other people down that's just what what are you doing it's also not sustainable like that's not gonna serve you well in the long run. What are you going to be known as the person that, like, just shoots down other people? And the thing is, it's, like, it's literally over people doing, like, dancing. I know. It's, like, not even, like, something really, like, scandalous or, like, controversial has happened. It's literally just, like, these guys are just, like, vibing. And also, like, they have quite a big female audience so like it's probably going to appeal to a completely different audience

to who you your audience appeals to or just because someone creates content in the gym space that isn't really to your taste doesn't mean it's like invalid or so the the whole community's dead um so then the situation gets a little bit more tangled a little bit more messy there's a creator called jack's fit who is pretty new on the scene um and he's kind of on this well his account and the reason why he was doing really well was because he was this person who was just like literally your everyday joe blogs and was just like literally documenting his journey from being super super slim and he is trying to bulk and he's trying to build muscle and he's kind of been like picked up by like the

big guys big names in the industry so um I know one of the first people I certainly saw him with he's like a young guy um but one of the first people I saw him with film with was Ben um Howden who's Lucy Davis's husband and it was kind of just like let me try and educate him or whatever since then he's been training with more people he trained with James Beardwell he's just literally filmed with Joe Fazer as well filmed with him in the past as well yeah and it was all coming from a really positive place of like yeah you're trying you're trying but also you're new to this we've been doing this for years let us help you yeah and that is the best of the gym community yeah that is what it's meant to be actually what it's about like we all

promote like and push so much like about the gym community being like such a positive space because it and like the fitness community being so nice because it, and like the fitness community being so nice, because it genuinely is, like, in person, that is the energy you're met with, and like, I think it's kind of a real shame that this is being portrayed like this, with this whole drama thing, because I feel like the, I thought the fitness community was kind of above that, and like, it wasn't that deep, you know what I mean? But anyway, so he's gone on to he's done doing really well obviously being swept up by like filming with these really big names and i think this is a perfect example of how it's easier to tear people down and drag people he's gone on stream with this guy called ed who from what we've seen doesn't really have much positive things to say.

And they... Ed Matthews. Ed Matthews, thank you. And so they, on... She's the bag checker. They've basically gone on stream and Jack has said that James Beardwell is on steroids, which is something that James Beardwell has been literally like saying, accused of for like two years now and has been like,

it's not the case. If we go off of what James is saying and if we take that for face value and like, okay, he genuinely isn't taking steroids. If the guy says he's not. Like he's just spent time with James and like filmed with James. Yeah. And he's gone on a stream and immediately time with james and like filmed with james yeah

and he's gone on a stream and immediately this guy ed is trying to get provoke him provoke him in a way and i get stuff out of him and he's kind of like leaning into it and i think he's just getting swept up with the idea that he's in the midst of it all he could go viral and it it just comes down to like there's real people at play here and you don't realize how much what you could say people take at face value and they'll run with that and that how that will affect james especially after i mean from what i can see james has just been trying to help him yeah um so for him to come back and do that i think it just shows when people are after that virality it doesn't really matter what it takes to get there. But that's, like you said, that's not sustainable.

And it also has, what's the word? It has impact. It has catastrophic effects on different people. It's not, and it's almost like he just needs to get back to, he was on this journey. The reason he started his content was because he was on this journey to gain muscle and like learn more about fitness and finally get like he didn't want to be skinny anymore that's what he needs to stick to and kind of just step away from all of this drama and people kind of maybe taking advantage of him yeah and just go

back to what feels normal be authentic like authenticity is so important in like the creative space there are so many people so it's like if you've grown because you've just been really candid and you've just shown your journey of like trying to just put on some muscle like why are you doing that for some quick like cheap you know views and follows I also got a sense I don't know if you watched well when we were watching it earlier when we like when you see them on stream i feel like there's this kind of like male bravado like i don't know i feel like it's kind of like oh like doing it i just really feel like he's not thought about the consequences like with the whole steroid conversation as well, because that's just like such a big topic in the gym space.

It's like, I just, I think it's really damaging if he's made this up about James to do so, because it's like, I think all too often with people that are like really at the top, like James is really successful or like we even had it with Lucy Davis recently. Like when people are fantastic at like what they do, they look really incredible or they perform really well.

It's people just feel, people almost can't fathom that something could be achieved like that because they couldn't imagine it for themselves. And so they kind of take it away from those people. Like James has been james i think he's been training since he was like born oh yeah literally so yeah i'm standing um and it's like also don't underestimate how much of a factor genetics has on people and like how they look especially like yeah with respect to like well to be honest with anything but like with training and aesthetics it's just

poor show it's it's a real shame yeah it's a shame because people then take especially on tiktok when you we were kind of saying earlier there's such a young community on tiktok people see what they they hear it and they take it at face value they never think oh it might not actually be true so then there is this video out there they're like well it is then he's on yeah he's on must be true yeah yeah there's so many consequences to it as well like it could you know obviously it would affect james but then also like what about if a young boy thinks oh the only way that i'm gonna look like that is is that I need to take steroids. And obviously, you know, that isn't what James said in this case,

but like that could then lead someone down that journey, which, yeah, is a whole issue in itself. Yeah, and you even said you've been accused of it. Yeah, well, I was saying like when I was really like, I think it was like 23, yeah, like last year, when I was like starting I think it was like 23 yeah like last year when I was like starting to be a little bit more lean and I was training like hard um I'd be going for like intense sessions like five days a week um and I was just like on my shit I was like eating well training a lot like living and breathing fitness um and I also do have really good genetics like especially with my back

my back was like my back I feel like will always look muscular but like my back then was like oh my flipping god like there's one shot I'm particularly thinking of which we'll add in for people watching but like it I look honestly huge and people would comment like oh tren or whatever yeah yeah and all i can hear is i want a bite like that i love that video i was just thinking like fab now but like you know luckily for me when people would comment tren which is like a steroid like i would take i would take it in a positive way and i'd well i'd kind of be like oh my god she's looking like she's she, she's looking like she's, she's,

she's looking like she's on steroids. Yeah, but that's because, that's because you know you're not. So you're like, wow, what a compliment. They think I got this through steroids.

Yeah. And also because it wasn't like that, like it was like, what, one or two comments, but like to actually have like a whole audience coming at you saying something when that's like not the case. And I just think like not the case and i just think it's like it's just it's just crazy yeah having a negative light to such a wholesome well yeah

like part of the internet if ben like kicked it off with like trying to help him and then other boys jumped in and when gym boys were like oh let's help this guy like he we were him once kind of coming yeah exactly and then i think that's what ben was coming yeah for him to utilize that platform he's gained and those frenzies made and spin it in a negative and quite toxic way is really unfortunate and i just hope that he sees what like the mistake he's made and kind of just goes okay i need to step away from that it's not where i want to go that kind of drama route let me just go back to the reason i made content and what made me go viral in the first place and stick to this journey and hope that he can mend those because I don't know what their relationship is going to be like now because I don't know how many people are going to want to come and train with him if he's potentially going to throw them

under the bus like that well it was funny because James has made a five minute response video and he's kind of said in it like if i was taking steroids which i'm not do you really think i'm gonna tell this random flipping guy that i've just met like do you think i'm actually gonna kept secret yeah here's my best like dan humphrey meeting someone new me like yeah i'm got it girl yeah sorry spoiler alert i mean if you haven't watched it now by this i actually haven't no neither but sorry lauren sorry i wanted to watch that as well or just to get it i'm blanking that out i'm actually i'm just gonna beat all of that that was series 2 no I'm beating you all that's gone all over my head we're only on series 3

no no no right no more spoilers we were saying though you know if

we have kind of said that like benefit of the doubt like if you are telling the truth then that's like our thoughts on that however for those

little scallywags that do lie that is poor show big fat liar like it makes it harder for the people that aren't lying as well it's infuriating no yeah that that's that's not on i don't think like that's really crap and we were talking about the new drug uh ozempic yeah and wait no did we even bring that up yeah it was just like if you're gonna do something just own it and if you're if you've taken the ozempic being so popular if you you're

taking ozempic for weight loss tell people don't be like oh it's just because i'm working really hard in the gym and i'm just eating good because you're telling people out there that if they eat good and do a bit of pilates they're gonna lose all this weight and look like you and it's not you you can't account that to a zen you you can account that to a zen pic so being like no i'm not on anything is it's damaging it's gaslighting for like people that want that as well on a massive scale yeah i think that's what's really really tricky and I think that's where like the gym well really the online space gets such a bad rep especially in the gym community like gym talk if we want to talk about it like that because it's just like there's no way of what's the word like accountability verifying anything you see so whilst the internet can be

such an amazing resource that we just didn't even have you know even like a couple of years ago like when i started my journey i did not have that i didn't have tiktok in the way where you'd actually be able to like oh these are the best exercises for glutes or whatever. You just have to tread so carefully. And Lauren is a coach. Get at her if you need some online coaching. But Lauren's a coach. And you were mentioning earlier about how like, you get so many people coming to you that are just literally like,

just so confused because they're at the start of their journey and they just see all of this stuff online. It's all contradictory and it's all just messy and you can't break it down in your head you know so I think that's where like that the online space is really tricky it's a tricky point where maybe in years we'll look back and be like oh god can you imagine when it can you remember what it was like then yeah and I think everyone on TikTok also thinks that they

like know well they make out you have to make out like you know everything to do well to do well and for people to believe you and then it's so convincing but half of the time they're just really convincing people that just have their own narratives that they're trying to sell and yeah the information out there is so overwhelming for so many people as a consumer myself I'm like yeah like It's like, I can buy this and I can look like this and I can do this move. And oh, but you can't train glutes in that way. But it's so individual. Am I intermittent fasting or am I getting up at five o'clock in the morning and eating?

Well, do you remember? I don't know if you remember, but I remember hearing this years ago. This is like pre kind of short form content and it was talking about like how it was a it was a statistic for the amount of people that take their news from the headline and don't actually read the article so obviously you kind of want like a yeah we all are right it's easier pops up on my phone oh yeah yeah right so it's like that was that was something in itself then and now you've got video content which is doing exactly the same where you know you go into these like brand meetings even and they're like that three seconds needs to be a hook so then everything

is just becoming so i'm just not getting you're not you're not getting like it's over summarized yeah you're not getting all the information yeah dramatized it's too um condensed yeah too condensed and too dramatized yeah so then you're you're missing so many key pieces there's so many nuances and and also it has to be so generalized because it's got to be like for everyone so yeah someone could come on and be like i lost weight by doing this and you could take that advice and it actually could be the worst thing you could do for your body personally like I know for me intermittent fasting not an option I can't do that it doesn't work my body everything like really doesn't play well when I do intermittent fast but for some people it's amazing and it works wonders but it doesn't mean that it's going to work for you well

it's not like the thing is it's like it's not a question and an answer there's so many like if anybody has been with like a coach or a PT or whatever or you do have a background in this you'll you'll know that there's so many like factors that you need to like people say oh what what calories do i need to be on to be to lose weight it's like well it kind of depends you know how much you're moving like how tall you are and how much you weigh and what your daily routine is days night even sleep yeah your tdp yeah so yeah i don't know it's it's difficult it's to navigate and i think i was listening to a podcast what they said about like they were they could see the internet just be full of lies like becoming a place where it's just everything is made up like how do you then know what is true and what is not

like how do you how do you separate yeah the truth from the lies because especially with ai they were saying that you can make up literally articles upon articles upon articles about things that aren't true it's like right so we really can't trust anything then if you try hard enough pretty much any study or whatever you do you can spin to make to make the fact that you're trying to get across like yeah make it supported yeah if you try hard enough and people don't fact check it which most of the people watching this on tiktok aren't going to fact check it they're not going to go oh that reference to that study i'm going to go read the abstract the conclusion i'm going to look at the results like they they don't have time for that they don't want to do that so if you can spin it in a way and you say it with confidence yeah it's like when you walk into one of those buildings wearing a high vis and people just don't question

you yeah you say it with enough chest like people are back to everyone believes what you say on tiktok yeah everyone believes it i i am guilty for it i will see something and i'll be like oh my god can't wait to go tell my mum as if that's brand new information so that in itself around that conversation what we've had with james and stuff that's where you need to be so aware like once it's out on the internet there you can guarantee even if it was the most absurd thing you said at least one person is going to be like oh well that's true i'm going to run with that oh and the damage is caused and then that's brought a really negative like a negative light on something that was actually so positive like he is literally just putting out good about the gym, about dancing with his friends,

having a good time, running five miles. And this guy's tried to attack him for helping him in the gym, which is just not on. No. Big fat no. Yeah. What do we think of it at Ozempic? Don't take it. Unless you're, unless you medically need it.

Unless you can find it. Unless you medically need it unless you can find unless you medically need it for anyone that doesn't know it's basically a an injection that is you that diabetics need and there's currently a shortage on it because people have found that you can rapidly lose weight from it um and so all of these celebrities it's now like a very kind of thing of the moment to do to be taking it and so there's I've seen like videos where it's like these celebrities they're losing this weight so rapidly that they're not giving them their bodies a chance to sort of catch up with them and so they're we all know you can't spot reduce fat so when you lose fat you lose it everywhere and so they're just suddenly all looking like super like gone in their faces but yeah this is

the issue with it is that like because it's become a trend there's yeah there's celebrities that are losing weight and you will a lot of people all the comments will just be a zen pic a zen pic a zen pic and if it's not that you've got that's again just damaging but at the same time if they're on it they should be upfront about it because if you're just assigning that to i've just been exercising really well like then people are just going to be like oh well i'll just follow exactly what they do and i'll get the same results and it's just not going to happen if you're if you're if you have a weight loss drug in your system someone's not going to get that through doing a bit more pilates and eating a little bit less sugar like it's just not going to happen yeah it's like back in the day when like you know

these celebrities go on these big yeah big fat loss journeys and then they're like on the front of the magazine and it's like what this celebrity did to look like this and fat loss can be achieved but yeah you absolutely do not need to be taking these drugs to achieve it it's also so like damaging when people say when they lie about not being on it when they are on it because then you've got people like me who are trying to currently go through like a fat loss journey and i'm like why am i not doing it the way they're doing it and i'm trying really hard yeah also yeah like why am I not seeing the results that everyone why are all of these what are they doing really hard here what's going on yeah and obviously we want we want like you know things to be as easy as possible but things like fat loss

aren't like there's so many factors that go into it whether it's like your job your lifestyle your stress like it's not easy and I yeah it's very gaslighting when someone just takes that drug and I just I can't believe that celebrities are still doing these crazy things like I think I can't remember what the last fad thing was but like have they not learned their lesson that like it doesn't vinegar was up there once upon a time I know but yeah it's also like not sustainable I'm sure I've heard yes i'm sure i've heard as well that with ozempic like you have to keep taking it don't you otherwise you'll then rapidly gain everything back i'm sure i think there's other repercussions as well like it can't

hasn't it got like damage again fat check hasn't it got like it's now damaging people's like kidneys or something yeah well i mean it's such a new drug like why would you put something like i mean unless you medically need it obviously it'll have been medically checked but why would you put something into your body it wasn't brought out for weight loss was it yeah and it's it's it manages your blood sugar levels so i imagine if you then come off it and you you like your sugar intake goes up then naturally you're probably going to put weight back on so i just yeah it just frustrates me when you like what you just said molly like when you're someone on a fat loss journey and looking for that that relatable like oh i'm gonna follow her

because she's like on a fat loss journey and she's saying oh if i do this and i eat like this i'll achieve her results and then if actually that's all down to her being on a fat loss drug it's so so shit yeah so gaslighting and gaslighting yeah well even with the whole like even with like the girls and like those those foodie accounts wherein it's like you're that is not a nutritious meal you're not like fueling and sustaining your body there with like what you're promoting that you're eating and are you even eating that yeah it's horrifying like something that i see it's like this whole like shift to i don't know if we can mention him but eddie abu like have you seen him like are you actually overlooking at me with a blank face

i know exactly is that the guy that shuts down the camera oh my gosh he is all over my page yeah he just eats eggs he just eats eggs i mean i only eats... Only eats eggs. No, he eats more than that, but... He's very much like omnivore. Like, you just should, you should only eat whole foods, things that, like, are very, very natural. Like, goes into the supermarket

and says that everything is bad for you, this is going to kill you. Which, like, I get the message in some senses, but then also it's like, people don't just want to eat eggs. People want to go to dinner with their friends.

Like, people want to enjoy life. And it's not going to kill you if you you know have food that's outside of what he's promoting it's that whole like again it's that massive like polarity on online and that that like demonization of food which i feel like quite passionate about because i feel like it's just awful like we've spoken before on this podcast about like the whole good food and bad food and like that and all of that is just like it's just not helpful for you if you go down that avenue it's not helpful for you in having like a really healthy sustainable life where like, I don't know, I just, the whole thing is just like messy. I think what it teaches you though is just scrolling through TikTok, try not to take anything at 100% truth and 100% exactly as it seems online because

even like the whole, oh, girls only film themselves first thing in the morning when they haven't had breakfast and stuff because they're trying to show their best self and I did a whole this is sort of topic and please feel free to cut this but I did a whole uni essay on TikTok and eating disorders and the whole idea of you like a girl online putting her best self forward and putting that online and Instagram and TikTok are so different because Instagram you are seeing somebody that you know you're getting to know you kind of see them more lights whereas TikTok you're seeing strangers constantly so what you see and what comes up on your page you have to take at face value and assume that that's what they look like that's how they eat that's how they train everything like that so you're seeing this perfectionistic self that

they put forward and you don't your form of comparison is only that you can't compare yourself to what they look like the rest of the day because you literally don't your form of comparison is only that you can't compare yourself to what they look like the rest of the day because you literally don't have that available to you and if you're putting that out into the world this perfectionistic what you want yourself to look like your perfectionistic self you're then giving other people that to compare it to and you're then going to do it yourself because you're like well I can't I don't I want to put like my very best self and you can do so many takes and you can do so many edits and you because people don't know you in real life because you'll see a girl if you see a girl on Instagram you're like whoa she looks really good

on Instagram picture but I know she doesn't look like that in real life it's not a nice thing to say but you know you have that realistic version to compare them to but when they're a stranger on TikTok you don't have that yeah well I also think what you just said there made me think about how like we we often when we reflect on these sort of things and like have a discussion about this sort of thing we often think oh gosh that's so calculated but I think also sometimes it's not and sometimes they're so people and creators are so swept up in it it's not normal and I try to remind myself of this so much it is not normal for the audience well for anyone you don't have to be a creator it is not normal for us to be perceived in the way we are with social media and I think that's where like all

of this all of this comes from like this just like murkiness but you can't put your whole you can't put your whole self online like you like even the videos like these days you're trying to get a short concise piece of content so you're going to make cuts you're only going to show the highlights like I know everyone says like Instagram's a highlight reel yeah you just have to remind yourself that you're comparing every little bit of yourself to the perfect version of somebody online and that that's where you just have to take a step back well yeah well that's not true that's not what they that's not their whole life and I'm comparing it to my bad day my post dinner body like you're comparing it to a hundred percent of yourself and you're getting there one percent well you know it's so funny as well because I if I could take

myself as well as a little case study like I think maybe Alex is you was talking to you I was talking to someone recently about how like I would love it's so this is such an interesting topic because it's like I feel and I would I would hope that a lot of people would agree that I really do try to lean in to the messy parts of myself I try to really for the like as much as I can show the like full 360 of me my mind where I'm at with things and like my journey right however I was chatting to someone the other day I can't think who it was and I was saying like I wish I could be Sid Grose oh it was me yeah no it was when we were talking about Diane because we were asking about like do we think she goes out on stage and steps and steps into a character to make it easier for her to like not

be scared and stuff and I said do you feel like when you're going on camera like do you feel like you're sitting you're like oh I'm I wish I could always be Sid Gross but I'm not always Sid Gross but it's yeah and it's interesting because like I feel like I do try to show the bad, the good, and everything in between online. But yet still there's a part of me as Sydney that's like, oh, I wish I was like her to myself. And that is crazy. you know but maybe it's actually that like you're never gonna ever perfectly or imperfectly capture everything there is to like a an individual like you're not it's just not possible like there's so much to us and I think in that same breath I I personally have never been one to share too much of the bad side online just because I I don't know you know like people that film themselves like crying or in a really bad like

bad place I just I could have like respect for that but the reason why you don't see like people do that is because it's difficult to do like who wants to pick up a camera when they're like in a really dark place yeah I I get a lot of like shit talking for that because like I do but and again it's like you don't know what you do not know what's going on like the I never will like be crying and pick up the camera like this right it's that like if there's a particular like dark point I'm going through, usually if I'm going through something, I will be talking about it with my therapist. And because I know what my job is,

even if I'm in like a dark place, I just like will record how I am. Almost as like a video entry because I know it's going to help so many people. And like people's, I do get like hate comments and people are like, oh my God, I just can't imagine

filming yourself when you're crying I'm like okay good no but I feel like you everyone's so different like you're you crying to me crying would be so different because I don't know like I think you're a very like you're very emotionally in tune yeah whereas to me like if I'm crying it's like hysteria it's rock bottom yeah it's like I literally are you much of a crier no see I am a crier see yeah I do I like I have like I've always since I was a child like it's been very much encouraged for me like because I am quite sensitive anyway and I'm definitely a feeler like I feel a whole I think it's part of just being neurodivergent I just feel a very intense scope of feelings like when I'm really happy when I'm happy I'm just always really happy

or if I'm having a bad day I'm having a really bad day it's just something that I like deal with but yeah like so for me I feel like I do cry quite often but I love that like I mean sometimes I even wish like I was a bit more like that. Do you? Like, I wish I cried a little bit more. I cried at the Wicked trailer yesterday. Oh, sorry. No,

I didn't think that looked good. Oh, I did. Oh, let's not go there. She's a, she's a, I don't want to.

I was just going to bring up your video about, people go and check Molly's account, but before the marathon, like when you, like you were filming yourself because you were trying on your marathon outfits i was sending a video to my sister being like oh which top do you think i should try on like i should wear for the marathon because we all we all want to look cute when we're working out because it makes us feel better absolutely

don't tell me running isn't a fashion show i feel better sorry we digress. And I was filming myself like trying on this outfit and I captured a full blown meltdown, like full blown tears, headed hand like kind of crying because I feel like no one really talks about like marathon weight gain and I felt really uncomfortable in the top I was in and I just felt really crap.

What is marathon weight gain? Marathon weight gain is real. Not everyone, obviously, like everyone's journey is different when they're in anything and literally any aspect of life, but especially within like running, everyone has different,

not everyone is going to experience marathon weight gain, but I found when I was running those long distances my appetite was just like I was ravenous or I don't know about you but I was so hungry all the time and I am not one I have grown up for years like ignoring what what my body wanted I was like you know what no if my body's hungry I'm gonna give it food when you're putting it through marathon training when I'm working full time in a very active job I'm gonna I'm gonna feed it so yeah I put a little bit of weight on and I got to marathon day and was like oh this is probably actually one of like factually weight wise probably the heaviest I've been

but also I'm the strongest I've been and your body was prepared to run and my body took me 40 yeah yeah but it's so tough marathon weight gain because I don't think I think people enter into these races and these competitions looking at people that maybe they think yeah that they're going to lose weight they're going to look like these you know elite marathon runners but actually it's such a hard process to take your body through that and your body doesn't know what's happening your body just wants to like look after you and save you so obviously if you're expending loads of energy your body is going to want energy especially the first time you do a marathon as well maybe the second time third time it's not so bad but but I I did find kind of

bringing it back to what we were talking about earlier and people thinking they just they know gospel they know they know the truth on it on tiktok and they they would die otherwise i got a lot of comments on my video why would you film yourself crying you're like no you're lying about my wake isn't a thing it was like you just need to restrain yourself. That is gaslighting in itself. I got comments. I deleted a few because I was like, I don't want other people to see that. Delete them all. But people were like...

Give me names. You were just trying to shed light on something that's really real for a lot of people. I documented my marathon journey quite authentically. I thought so. And breakdowns were involved. And I was just... I am also not one of those people who would cry and then pick a camera up but I'd caught a breakdown and thought I'd share it I know that's really brave yeah it's brave like you could especially

if like you'd already watched that video and that's maybe what made you break down like to then put that online is tender later but then you did it for the other girls that were going through the same thing and being like hey I'm here I'm also going through this you're not alone in that yeah

it's raw and real fair play but that's I think not like to toot my own horn but that's the kind of like run talk gym talk that

when you say is gym talk dead no because there is still a wholesome element it's just the 1% of people no because Molly Ellen Lloyd

is here she's on here one percent of people that are just trying to ruin it for the rest yeah honestly yeah don't ruin it if i could drop this mic i would you know what actually one of my better videos as well was actually talk it's always i think people do really like connect with when you do talk about the negatives yeah I might not be a crier but like I've spoken about a lot of bowel issues that I've had from the running journey um but people seem to really connect with that and I think I probably should do it more than I do yeah I mean now that I'm out of

marathon training it's luckily not happening so much yeah but it's because we're all living the same life like we're all even these weird parts of you that you're just like oh you know what so embarrassing we are all living the same lives it's so funny because I remember one of like my first conversations with I'd I'd made a friend like we were getting to know each other we'd met a few times she was saying that she wanted to enter into running all of this and like literally our first conversation about running was me being like by the way if you you know start running long distance you're probably gonna have some bowel problems you might pee yourself and I just started like opening up about all of this and she was like you know what actually I really appreciate you saying that because I think if

if you were starting marathon training and you didn't know that that happened to other people and then you pee yourself what's wrong with me it's like yeah so what is that your body because when you run is it just that your digestive system shuts 15 at the London Marathon I literally was like get me in toilet now it's called runner's gut and that at least that's what I call it and know it as but runner's gut is I mean it can be different to different people but because when you're running for such a long time obviously if you're not used to running and you're not used to you knowing what foods sit well in your gut that move through you well there's there's a few culprits. I mean, alcohol is definitely one that makes things move in a weird way.

And then dairy for me also. But also if you've just had a bit too much food before a run as well. So, you know, if you're just eating like a normal person and then you start like doing long distance running, it's like, actually you need to think about what you're eating before you do these long runs because yeah, it can move in ways

that it will just you've never experienced before and it just surprises you it does out of nowhere so we understand why paula radcliffe we i really do now i do not judge her i do not judge her and absolutely slay for judgment. An absolutely slave of hers. Yeah. I just think it's so interesting how running is becoming like, like it's insane. Wendy. Like Camp Strava looks like what? The place to be.

No, but you know, like Silicon Valley with the Apple conferences, the huge ones. So yeah, describe it. What have you seen so far? It's like Strava have done that and they've like invited a load of influencers. Like I know like Ben Parker from Runner who was on the podcast yeah um Savannah was there

Savannah was there um Holly B I think was there like it I just in the US the popularity of it is insane yeah I'm so here for the running community growing like I really see it seen it flourish and I feel like I feel like I'm maybe taking this in a negative light but you know people that are like hating on the fact that running is becoming such a big thing and that people are people are getting angry that people are jumping on the running bandwagon and it's like you shouldn't be discouraging of people that are wanting to better themselves it's a bit like the whole you know james argument as well like just just be a nice person just be encouraging i don't like this i've said this

before on the podcast i don't i really don't like this whole like gate gatekeeping things that are blowing up and like oh like that's our thing and like why is everyone doing it everyone's running well now it's hard to get onto a marathon yeah well like maybe it's trendy because it's actually bringing a lot of value yeah it's community we're like running marathons like we're better so so i found day two's itinerary for camp strava oh go on she will be our fact checker in future reference 7 a.m morning hike and run with North Face 9.45 till 11 opening keynote tune in live

on YouTube 11 till 11.45 panel she's got game that sounds good 1.15 till 2pm panel device powered

inspiration 2.10 till 2.45 that's very specific breakdown sessions brands on Strava and then creators and clubs on Strava 3 till 4

closing fireside chat and remarks 4 till 7 after party wow after party that finishes at 7pm though

did you say that someone asked for your yeah my kind of too no no that was Molly huh

no I was saying was it you that said that someone asked for your Strava oh my god Strava and run clubs are the new dating they are

okay fact break it down fact she says there's a taken woman someone asked for your strava oh my god strava and run clubs are the new dating they are okay back break it down back she says as a taken woman in a relationship of six years love you man oh um it's true you watch it happen you literally go there and these very sexy men are with these very sexy women and they're all they've got a passion they've got they know they've got a shared hobby they've got similar lifestyles because they'd rather run they'd rather run on a friday night on a saturday morning and then be hung over yeah and they're chatting and they're running together and then they go what's this drama and then they're like no but i do feel like there is nothing... They can see your location on social media.

No, no, I hide my map. I hide my map. I feel like there's nothing sexier than, like, being so passionate about something and having someone that you're interested in or a partner that is equally as interested or that you can do those things with. I don't know.

Like, for me, I get it. Like, I get why they would, I don't know like for me I get it like I get why they would I don't know gel gel clip well maybe it does make sense my homework should I go and see if I can get a date out of a run club honestly no honestly I say that to people I'm like if you're not yours though looking for love well I yeah that's a different topic in itself like I semi-started my well it's not a female only run club anymore but the Thursdays is female only because I wanted to give women that place where they don't feel like they're going to get hit on at the run club because run club because

it's good it is good but some people don't want that oh no for sure but I think that's the same with ours like it's for the girls and it will stay like that because that's fine. There can be a place for that. But equally, like I will say I had only participated in female only run clubs until the one I gatecrashed the other day. So for context, I was walking my dog and then I saw a run club and it looked really fun and cool and they were all warming up and I was like oh wow I want to be a part of this so I literally was like sorry goose gonna have to cut this short ran back to my flat and I just said to my boyfriend I was like I've just seen a run club I want a gate crash so I'm gonna go and then I just like ran out the

house and caught up with them um and that was with guys and I did think it was like a cool vibe it was like a different definitely a different energy um faster faster I think it adds an element of competition but not toxic competition I think it's just like ah can't thank us girls we do the board like yeah I don't think it's a negative yeah I can't lie when I went to parkrun the other week when I was overtaking boys it felt better than overtaking girls I was like yeah here I am having old men and women yeah as they should I love taking on a guy at 45 this morning on the road did you see oh it's like we were I was next to a guy and I was like held over let's see who can get farther in 40 seconds we got the same same sorry this is complete and you can cut this out

has anyone watched Physical 100 no yeah did you see the have you watched season 2 no so there's this clip

of yeah maybe spoilers I don't know how deep people deep Physical 100 it's my life there's this scene

where this girl is fighting I think she's like a judo champion and she takes on like an FBI agent and she beats him and like you know

and you're like go on girl well I got annoyed the other week because I go to bar every week and it's mainly girls it's mainly girls

and there's usually probably one guy a week bar is ballet by the way kind of influenced a ballet influenced sort of movement i'm an ex-ballerina oh you're an ex-ballerina um but yeah there's normally about one guy there and

this guy walks in and he was like oh yeah like he was talking about he was like yeah i just want like a class i can go to this just like a bit of an unwind like i've been training really hard recently he was like this i'm so i'm going to treat this like stretches and like all of this and he obviously was doing his first class he was at hot yoga or something yeah and he like put the ankle the instructor said don't put ankle weights on if it's your first class because that's what i say to everyone he was like oh no i think i'll be fine put them on this man was a shell of himself at the end of that class and i was just looking at him and i was like yeah well you came in with all the confidence and like oh yeah this is just gonna be my easy class. I was like, excuse me.

I will say it is like a very male thing to like be like blindly confident. I feel like as us women, we kind of approach with more like caution. Like we were watching the marathon and like the day of the marathon, the Manchester marathon, my boyfriend was telling me that he was going to try and find a ticket and he was just going to run it with zero training and I was like are you actually having a laugh but he wasn't and he thinks he can do an iron man again with no training and I'm like sorry on my birthday I did 23 kilometers for 23 years of age and my boyfriend just rocked up and did the whole thing oh no because some people do it and they get away with it but I think there's a few guys that I coach that have this they say

that they've not trained for it but in reality they already have a really good baseline I'm not on it but the the repercussion is that actually you might f yourself for you know a week or a month after like couldn't walk for a week yeah whereas like you know if you train for a marathon you the part of the reason why you train is so that you actually can recover after you've just made me think of a really good little topic you know what I do just feel like a really I feel passionate about is um you see how everyone's out here doing like double marathons back to back oh my gosh especially like the parents in London I actually couldn't fathom that I could not walk

after London well I feel like that was me to London just rolling off the sofa but like a lot of people really doing themselves damage. A lot of injuries I've seen. Yeah, yeah. It's not enough time to recover fastly. I think if you're someone like Lucy Davis that does insane volume,

maybe you'll get away with it. But I think for your normal person. Just like pounding the ground for what is it? I think Ben said it was like 40,000 jumps. Yeah, to do that twice as well madness back to back you need more way more than a week like it takes weeks to recover from marathon i feel like i've only just got back to training hard in the gym yeah like i get i've got doms again for the first time because i've just not had that oh really yeah that was like

me when i started weight training again recently i was like oh that was one leg oh my god how did you feel after that leg day we were like in pieces i was okay after that one but i didn't do squats oh my god we we were we were you'll be proud of me though i did walking lunges yesterday by myself well done i am proud of you right thank you so much remember you can find us at gym girls locker room on all platforms and we also have a clips channel at gglr podcast on instagram if you guys could do us a massive favor just a little one if you've been listening and enjoying this would you do us the absolute honor of giving us a review and clicking follow or subscribe on whatever platform you're listening on it really does help us out so much and like allows us to have like an even bigger better show with like such thick guests um so yeah if you have been listening and you do enjoy that would really mean so much to us um but yeah enjoy your week

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