GYM GIRLS LOCKER ROOM - James Beardwell & McKenna Crisp on Thirst Traps, Viral TikToks & Dating Rumours

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

EP 07 - you asked, Syd answered... girls, welcome James Beardwell and McKenna Crisp to the GGLR!! WATCH the full episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-1CLpP_K0U 💘 join the GGLR community: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/gymgirlslockerroom/ FACEBOOK COMMUNITY PAGE - https://bit.ly/3TqhxDG TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@gymgirlslockerroom/ 📲 find Syd on socials: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/sydgrows/ TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@sydgrows/ connect with James: https://www.tiktok.com/@james_beardwell?utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social connect with McKenna: https://www.tiktok.com/@mckennacrisp?_t=8yvq6mwraxb&_r=1&utm_source=hoobe&utm_medium=social GYMSHARK - 10% off code: SYDNEY

Hello and welcome back to the Gym Girls Locker Room podcast hosted by me Sydney Cassidy. Wow today we have two of possibly the most talked about gym boys on the scene at the moment. We have James Beardwell and McKenna Crisp and we just had like a really good conversation. This is a long one. I just let it run honestly. We addressed all the things you girlies want to know about so we spoke about the 5k, We talk about like their new friendship group and the gym bro squad that's just like evolved and developed. But we also like dug a little bit deeper and we saw a side to the boys that I don't really think we get to see so much. And we were talking about like being vulnerable with your emotions and how they're getting themselves through a rut that they're going through. And I just think it was really really insightful and really helpful I think this episode

will surprise you and regardless of whether you know the boys or not I think there's a lot to take away from it so I'll let you guys get into the episode I really hope you enjoy it as much as I did thank you so much to them for coming on don Don't forget that you can find us at Gym Girls Locker Room on, well, on all socials actually. And don't forget to give us a follow or subscribe on whichever platform you're listening on. On with the episode. Thanks for having us on Gym Girls Locker Room podcast.

Happy to be here. I'm happy to be here. Wait, is this intro? I was about to say happy to be in the gym girls locker room, but that's, I can't say that. Oh no. Five seconds in. And we're already cancelled.

Yeah, I know. But no, we're, you know, I feel like this is like me doing an act of service. I'm giving the girls what they want by having you girls on. I feel like. You just seen it in your DMms and conversations like get us on every time i say girls who do you want to see jay spinoza mckenna i want the boys i'm like fine okay let's give them what they want but um yeah how are you guys good good how are you mckenna

you just moved into manchester i feel like i'm on a high right now because like mckenna's first podcast oh that too yes and a new city i mean i did was here quite a bit before but yeah week into the new place love it is it giving like uni vibes no all you lot together no because i had i went to uni and i do not miss living in a uni house no i prefer living alone yeah i don't like i don't like being alone are you alone are you where we all live alone me sam will mckenna none of us are in the same part we live together yeah no i thought you okay so for people that don't know i feel like we should like start at like a little introduction because from my perspective and I feel like from a lot of people's perspective you guys have just become this like gym bro like squad that just get up to these like antics and it's just I don't even know like where's it come from has it just been like really organic or I mean I can go back and talk about it so me and Sam lived in the same house in Loughborough okay

which is where you studied yeah so we both dropped out after first year i kind of convinced him to drop out with me and i said bro if you don't drop out you're gonna be sad that i've dropped out and i'm going and doing myself so like we dropped out lived in the same house together will who we were like friends with but not crazy close friends with right he was just getting into social media and stuff and he wanted to you know spend some time with me and sam right so will before all my other uni student friends moved into the house after their summer holiday because me and sam moved in there straight away everyone else moved in after summer holiday will came and stayed with us in one of the other bedrooms that was free

and then from then we became a mad trio pretty much and then like fast forward a year we then move out of that house we go to LA and we're all like best friends and then we get back and I meet McKenna somehow like we'd been friends for a bit right no on social media no we weren't even friends we have not even know who this kid was I met you so I met James for the first time um with your first Gymshark event in Mitcham London yeah yeah Mitcham Kingscroydon yeah and then wait this early on like I swear that was literally like no no no that's like a year ago with me and Nathaniel we did a joint one oh yeah like a like a month into me being a Gymshark athlete me and Nathaniel did like a joint one McKenna came like I invited McKenna invited some other

people and he was just the sweetest little kid who I didn't know is two years older than me first of all everyone's so confused but so I met you there and then like eight months went by where we were just friends on social media but we never spoke yeah we never spoke on dms nothing really we didn't we'd have like the odd maybe story pop up where you dm me but that was about it and then i don't i can't remember how it came about but i invited you to come up to knots to train with me and like to shoot some content um and then and we shot some content there but we still weren't like close no friends no no no like we weren't close friends until pretty much started coming to manchester right oh yeah so quickly about moving into the apartments me Sam Will got back from LA and we were like right we need to you know we need to spread our

wings and get apartments and we all agreed to get separate apartments just because we all loved each other but too much time together and we'll get sick of each other so we all were looking around London and Manchester I was like nah I'm not doing London I hate the underground Manchester's the next best one so I was like okay I'm gonna get one in Manchester Sam and Will then came we all got places in Manchester all separate ones and then McKenna came and pretty much like like hopped between all our apartments and stayed for a bit um and then you were like yeah I'm gonna move there as well and we were like oh okay well because it got the point where it was like i ended up obviously i stayed at yours for like a week um i went back home and then i came back i was just going back and forth and then it was really

when i started like staying at yours and sam's i was like you know what i really like this like i'm happy in manchester because basically at home size sounds I was alone at home I had no I have no friends at home so every time I went home not nothing against my family obviously love my family but I would just sit in my room and every time I went back home from like after James's or Sam's I'd be in my room and I'd almost feel like depressed because I'm like I felt like I was back to reality of like being alone so I I was like, no, I can't do this. So. Did it feel like a big leap for you to take that like,

like cliff edge jump and like move or did it actually feel really like natural for you? I feel like it's the movement and everything now. I don't know, it feels like this is the normal now, but in a good way not like um but i think the build-up to no you know what it happened really quick i literally viewed an apartment with sam it was literally across like you can see my apartment from sam's and i was looking at some apartments um i was like oh sam saw this one on like right move um and he's like

oh it's that one went and viewed it literally like a few days later i was like right sam saw this one on like right move um and he's like oh it's that one went and viewed it literally like a few days later i was like right okay i'm gonna get this i think that's like when things are right for you they just there's this like flow state about it and it's just right like for me when i came back from traveling and then decided that london is not it for me and i'm not gonna live with my parents anymore i just kind of like decided I'm going to go to Manchester I went literally like four days after coming back from the UK and then I was exactly the same like found an apartment moved up here and then it was just like my new reality and I think when it's meant to be you know it's just like it just happens easy it's nice and it seems like it's kind of been like that for all you guys like

it was such a no-brainer for like guys. It was such a no-brainer. For everyone, it was such a no-brainer. For you, I mean, you had it kind of easier because you had like a free trial. Me and Will went to view an apartment on the same day, did not expect to come back with a deposit down already. Like that was a big decision. But we had to wait for the apartment to be finished built like so we're me and will in the same building um and we had like two months to wait for it so we just put a deposit down without even spending time in manchester much we just liked it obviously we'd

been to like the gym shark event and stuff well oh yeah no will went to that as well and then yeah sam was like yeah i'm gonna do that as well and then mckenna was like yeah i'm gonna do that as well and it is a no-brainer like we absolutely love manchester love living near each other and the gyms are cool yeah you can walk everywhere in 20 minutes i know manchester's pretty good for that no it's so nice to see you guys like all hanging out i think you can tell like it comes across so well in your content that you just are having fun enjoying yourself and I think it's just really lovely to see I have to talk about the bromance and more more than that the TikTok edits oh are they popping up on your boy you think no no no we were researching and we saw like it just the girls I love the girls the girlies are wild um when they fixate on a guy

they really go in and it's like so funny there's like there's like edits of like mckenna and he's like about to go and bench and he's like i'm weak and then it's like alana del rey edit i love it it's so funny like what do you make of this craziness that is the TikTok fans I find it incredibly entertaining incredibly um the worst ones are when people are like making out to be a romance not a bromance and I'm like I feel like there's two there's two there's almost two ships not ship well no there's like they i think they find it funny as well the fact that i'm the older one but james comes across as the older brother um so you've got some people being like oh they're

like just like brothers and then you've got the romance side of things people like they're meant to be they're like soulmates they're like platonic or or like oh that's not romance but it's like platonic friendship or something platonic or or like oh that's not romance but it's like platonic friendship or something platonic friendship is like actually just being friends yeah me and Sid are platonic friends right yeah yeah exactly so they mean the other way like romantic friends everyone's like y'all should date already tiktok be wild like tiktok will ship you it will like it will ship you with like anyone. Like it's just, yeah,

it's so funny. I really, I love to see it. So, and the 5k thing. That was out of nowhere. That is insane. And I just want to like,

I just want to take a moment to say, your girl over here was in the 5k. Where are my edits? Yeah. You know what I said you should admit you should have got on it you know you should admit because we all because obviously the it was mainly james yeah um and then it was me and sam to be fair i i did have some uh like people in the comments um but in fact you know what i really liked actually as well it was always uh the girls

loved it because you you and anna didn't look like you're our friends. We did yours late. I know. Yeah. Yeah. A little bit of inside scoop for you guys. They like forgot to. I think I was just like.

I couldn't find you. Yeah. At events, I'm just like here or like here, there, everywhere. I'm like frolicking around. And then I think McKenna was like, Sid, we didn't get't get you and like it was legit like 40 minutes after the 5k but not only that i hadn't actually run the 5k because i wanted to make sure that people at the back didn't get like left out so i was just walking that was why and also because uh yeah she's not a runner she's not a track star but yeah no that's so that that

that like popped off that was like insane yeah when i put that together i just i honestly did not i thought that it was a throwaway post yeah i was like oh you know what i feel like this is just just gonna be one of them posts that just flop and i'll post it and then next thing i know oh i went to bed it was like on 20k likes i was like you know what it's doing all right wake up james sends me a message going what the hell that post is blown up look at it's like 200k likes it's like the girls reacting have you seen when they're like stitching it there's a stitch that's now on like three million girl the the comparison what's it called the compatibility test we saw that and we like simply died it's so funny there was another one recently only like two weeks ago where like a guy

was like run to me james so you see them then yeah because i get tagged in them all the time i got tagged in there you've probably been tagged in it as well the hayley bailey video you know that yeah i've been yeah do you know who hayley bailey is or something is that her name yeah is she brunette yeah like la based or something she's like always on the red carpets yeah she's at all the like the events and she did a video where like she was just talking about all the people she stalked and at the end of it she was like i stalked the guy that did the 5k yeah and obviously obviously i don't know which guy she's talking about but obviously thank you i'm not i don't know other 5k guy james there's no oh mckenna's a mckenna's a 5k guy okay i would admit i i reckon it's probably me just because yeah who knows but

i got tagged in that probably 100 times like i was watching it and I was like that's funny but how how did you find the running is this is this a new area you guys are entering or no I mean I actually quite enjoy leisurely running just if I'm in another country with a couple beers at me or something like I went to Singapore and I was already wearing shorts and running shoes. And I just went for like a half an hour run for no reason. But I would never wake up in the morning at like 6am and do it in the cold and nothing like that in Manchester. Other than obviously the 5k runs. But not a fun experience on those ones because all the boys were trying to go as fast as possible. Were they?

Are you joking me? It was you. I was. No, no, no. First of all. Wait, no, no, no. You were skipping, weren skipping weren't you yeah i think it's faster than running no but there yeah there are the theories the theories are out there but the second one you you the second one we're like probably like five minutes in next thing i know sam no you and sam start sprinting like i'm like what are you like

you're gonna burn yourself out i end up i i stay at my own pace i end up catching up back up to you two um but the the first one after the first run to be fair i found it fun because it was like i wouldn't go out my way to go and do a run by myself nah absolutely not i would never wake up one morning you wouldn't walk by yourself you're too scared to walk anywhere i don't do we gotta we gotta head down to london tomorrow and he's like jim are you gonna are you gonna come with me and i'm like i mean we could get the change separately if i'm busy he goes london's scary no i'm not going london by myself i nearly got robbed in london did you yeah tell us go on um but what was it about with the run oh about the run oh the rob no i was like i was

at like a meta event and i was walking back to the train station um to the underground with oyinda and uh i had my phone in my hand using google maps to find it in covent garden and i kid you not so i'm talking to yin and i was like oh uh london kind of scares me because i see so many videos on like tiktok and whatnot of like people on bikes getting that um stealing people's phones i'm at a like a crossing um to wait to cross the road next thing i know some guy grabs my hand but luckily he grabbed my hand and not my phone and then he darted off but oh my i was so shook up i almost felt like violated i was like the fact that someone's just tried to rob me because also if my phone was stolen that day i would i didn't back my phone up so i would have lost

three years worth of content on my phone because did you learn your lesson though oh yeah yeah i backed my phone up i got apple care like everything as you should yeah i find it so funny thinking about how shocked he would have been yeah because the other day the other day this guy had a panic attack over the fact that his instagram post had cropped one of his photos right it didn't even look bad he was in my i was in the shower right he was banging on my door going james james my my instagram's not letting me delete my post it's on 3k likes and i was like bro i was i looked at it yeah it was already on 3k likes in like five minutes I was like right it's clearly not bad no no no okay look Cindy this post yeah look can I get it up like yes you can he was running around facetiming his sister okay it was this post yeah and okay look do you see do you see

what's wrong with this photo because I do I actually see what's wrong so there's so much space above my head yeah okay now the photo is not like that when I posted it. So Instagram cropped it and I'm like, Oh my God, what the hell? And there's, there's three. Okay.

They're not the same photo, but wait, what? No, no, that's the glitch. I think that's the glitch. But,

um, there was nine photos in that dump. So I'm like, it was the Spain dump. It's on 50,000 light. No, but that's not the point. No,

it was few. I was fuming so it there was nine photos in that dump it was of the valencia trip when we went to spain for some reason six photos had uploaded and the first one was cropped so i'm like what the heck so i was like calm i'll just delete it this instagram's not let me delete it saying like network error or something i'm like what so i'm like oh maybe it's the wi-fi 5g still doesn't work so i'm panicking here people are liking this photo and then so i'm like okay got log into my laptop log into my laptop on my instagram still nothing i'm like what it wouldn't my phone yeah logged in it wouldn't let me log

into my my instagram on his phone so i'm like great it wouldn't let me archive the post or delete it an hour goes by it's on like 8k likes i'm like oh i'm like i 8K likes. I'm like, oh. I'm like, I can't delete this now. No. I can't. So I have to leave it. Yeah. You know what? Instagram is actually super glitchy. It is really annoying.

I will give you some sympathy there because it is the most frustrating thing when you're like curating this post, the dumps as well, and then something will happen. You ever try, like you select all 10 or like nine right and then you're like go to click on the next one it swipes to the story and then it like deletes mine will be like i'll go to add another one and then it will add that

one and then delete all the other ones like or like the captions when you write a long do you write long captions no i i don't even caption anymore. I've given up. I hate captions. Oh my God, this guy. Look through every single one of McKenna's posts, yeah? I've captioned it. I've told him what order to do the posting.

I've told him what sound to use. You haven't done the order of the post. I am going to demand 20% of your grossing. No, you have not told me what, I find my sound. You find your sound. But you have helped me with captions. Yeah. I remember.

It's funny, right? We posted, oh, from the Arnold's Festival, yeah? He asked me a good caption. I was like, oh, because it was loads of social media influencers, right? So I said, familiar faces, do that, yeah? And then I completely forget that he captioned it and captioned my own post that like two days later so sam like sam calls me he's like you know you've captioned the same the your post the same as mckenna yeah i was like oh yeah i told him

to caption that he goes well at least you told him like one that you truly thought was good and you're not being a fake friend no definitely not how do you find like the whole career world and is it pretty new for you mckenna or uh i would well i i started my social media like three years ago but did you yeah but i think i think i've only started recently it's weird for me because I've I was like growing especially on Instagram um so back in March last year I had like 98k on Instagram but I still think no and that's still a lot but I still think no one knew who I was and then I was my Instagram was grown and grown and grown and I even um up until like I don't know like five and four even like 400k following um i still think no one really knew who i was because i didn't show any of my personality i think that was it's been such a

big factor for me but also i think i'm more new to the whole i guess the monetization side of social media right yeah because for the longest time i struggled with that even uh i i want to say it's only been the past few months really um like four or five months five months or something I've only started probably like monetizing through social media and it's actually become my job because I was like I was at like three three hundred four hundred k followers on Instagram and I was still working a full-time job what were you working at oh it was my dad it was my dad's company um like a you know like a showroom where you go like um kitchen the bathrooms and you view that I was just

basically sat at desk like I would deal with like invoices and like phone calls and I would talk to customers and they come in but I realized because I dropped out of uni and I've worked that full time so when I dropped out uni social media would like I had social media but it was never the intention of be like I'm gonna media but it was never the intention to be like I'm gonna make this like my job I didn't know how or whatnot but also I think this is where I really struggled as well because I didn't have any friends in the social media like world um so I didn't I couldn't I didn't know how to I didn't I didn't have anyone to ask for like advice on like how do I you know I'm growing but I didn't know how to

make it my job I find it interesting that like you've had this like crazy growth for the people that don't know how much like can you give the sort of span of what your growth has been recently where it's just been like exponential um what do you mean like like basically you've had like really significant growth right yeah and I find it really interesting that you're just saying that what you do because a lot of people ask me they ask I'm sure you guys like how can I do the same it's like all you've done is lean into yourself and and your authentic code like what's you you were saying to me before like you just you're just filming yourself and you're showing more of your personality I think I've had sort of like my instagram uh i was just blown up because of like my skin

like i just kept having like videos go um and maybe a little bit of like obviously my journey of like going through the gym and how the gyms helped me like with my confidence because i used to be really insecure about it but i feel like um that's all people just knew me for like what I went through with my skin and just my skin in general and then I feel like TikTok where especially obviously meeting like James and Sam they've helped me bring on my personality like and I'm actually just being me now I've seen such a big change now and like I could do a posing video obviously I could do a posing video now and like the comment do a posing video obviously i could do a posing video now and like the comment section is not about like it used to be just about my skin um and it's not

really about that anymore and i'm starting to see like a nice community growth because you can bang likes and you can bang views but if you can't grow a community it's not going to benefit you know even like with your code usage and like it's also not fun no it's not as fun just knowing that solely getting views for like being topless is like you know mckenna came to manchester and what was at the time you you had lost some followers on tiktok right yeah my tiktok was basically my instagram was growing but my tiktok was basically on the decline i'd lost like i think like 25k followers yeah um because i was sitting at like 900 920k um then obviously i came to yours yeah so what happened was because he was now in an environment where obviously i i might like make my ts my spam TikToks my main TikToks Sam

does his ones like talking to the camera because McKenna was now in an environment where he knows that me and Sam and Will are not going to judge him at all for making videos he took it upon himself to just whip out the phone to vlog right so that's not us taking credit it was just like the little catalyst in McKenna's mind to realize that actually, one, they're more fun to do. And two, as soon as you posted your first video or maybe you were in one of my videos or whatever, and people finally said your name in comments, like they were literally talking about you as a person.

And now all my comments, all his comments, all Sam's comments, all involve McKenna's name. Like you actually know who he is now rather than just having followers on instagram for posting a physique and obviously your skin and like you got a pretty face as well man you know so like he's built a community completely effortlessly by being unapologetically himself and that's like what you gotta do in social media like when everyone asks me that that's all i say is like just be yourself and that's like what you gotta do in social media like when everyone asks me that that's all i say is like just be yourself and then the people that are gonna like you will

eventually find you and like you and it's more fun now isn't it yeah i think it's hard it is hard because it's like i i obviously i tried to do it like early on but I would never it just wasn't the same I was just being there was still that filter on me where it's because you you were seeing look at a camera and talk to a camera but that's all you were doing yeah you weren't being yourself you were just talking to a camera and then obviously when now when I set my phone up and we're just in a room it's just me being me and I find that so much easier as well to like not necessarily talk to the camera but just have the camera there sort of forget the phones there but obviously talk to each other um I still I'm not gonna I still struggle even just talking to the camera by myself I'm getting better at it

I definitely am but that's fine that's like why people love you because they find you like endearing and it's like it just adds it's fine you don't need to be like the best presenter or whatever like yeah people gravitate towards you just i think people like to see this like unfiltered version of an individual like a creator you know it like we're all just trying to live life work out what the hell's going on you know so it's just nice to see like even people that like i don't know like even like you you James like super aesthetic focused like people also showing that they've got like edges and like different size to them how do you find like the whole thing like with your sort of social media journey was that because did you start off really aesthetic to begin with or have you always

had this like good balance of no I started TikTok as like a complete joke right I'm sure everyone does to be honest like up until now if you're downloading TikTok now to then post you kind of know you're trying but like I started it and I post I remember just posting random trends and stuff and I did a video that was called how men secretly flex did you ever see that I don't know and it was like it was like oh like being on the phone and like tensing your bicep and stuff and that one just went viral so I made another one and another one another one over like two months period um and in between that was obviously doing other trends and stuff

but then my whole plan right was to kind of to begin with was like do make videos that get views and then transfer over to fitness right and it kind of worked like I was doing like kind of thirst chappy videos kind of comedic videos stuff like that and then got more and more into the fitness and then like got recognized for the fitness and posting more bodybuilding stuff and then like Jim Shark and my protein came along and now I feel like I've actually transitioned back into having fitness but then also just being completely random me I mean I also have a spam account which I started at around the same time as my main account so I found out early on that being unapologetically myself was like actually really fun

without meaning to I was just posting random thoughts that came into my head and I still do it and those videos do well that's a community in itself over there there's people that follow my spam but not my main um so yeah I think I just I had I'll you you've lived at your parents house for a while now and it's nothing to do with your parents house but it's like having people around you whereas I had my second year house purely to do social media right because I dropped out after first year but me and Sam were still in the contract of the house to do the second year so we had that alone time of not feeling judged by anyone else because it was just me and Sam and obviously other best friends but they weren't judgmental

at all towards doing the social media so I've had a lot longer to come out of my shell and like build that up and do my spam TikToks do my main TikToks and like build the community over a longer period of time you know um and what was your question again I was saying like well you've always had that like that balance of showing like the rawest parts of yourself or like not just aesthetic I've always known it but there was periods where I would like you all of us here have been we're quite influenced by what other creators are doing absolutely so like and especially on when Instagram reels came out right right? All I was seeing was really high quality camera, cinematic, aesthetic, motivational gym videos, right? And I would

start doing like more professional videos, right? And my engagement was terrible and everything like that. And I was like, what's going on? Like these videos are sick. Then I realized when I watch those, I'm bored. So then other people are going to be bored of me doing that so luckily I kind of fell out of that straight away and I just started posting what I wanted to again but like genuinely the times when everything with social media is going the best is when I am posting what I want like obviously knowing it's providing some sort of value in some way, but when you know, I kind of know my audience now, like it's definitely very varied, I know that there's boys that follow me for the gym stuff, girls that follow me for just random vlogs and stuff,

and boys that follow me for random vlogs and stuff, and I just cater to all of that, and luckily I just really enjoy both being aesthetic and doing obviously like the bodybuilding posing videos and also doing the vlogs and everything like that um so yeah it's always been like in my head knowing that I want to do a mix of both yeah because that's not me as a person like I do not consider myself to be a really boring gym person that does nothing else I never have been like never um and it was getting to the point where people were starting to think maybe I am because all I was posting was like gym stuff so I was like no absolutely not I'm posting what I want to post and yeah yeah McKenna you're gonna I was gonna say I think that's the thing with the gym community is because when I was I was I was

trying to get so much like because I I started off just doing TikTok like I can't lie I was trying to get so much, like, because I started off just doing TikTok, like, I can't lie, it was like little thirst traps and then just like silly dance things with like audios. And then I started getting into the fitness side of things and I started like converting like into the fitness community. But I feel like,

I think a lot of fitness creators do this where it's like, you can't show your personality or something and they can come across as especially to someone who's not in the fitness scene as these like people who are in the fitness scene as boring people and they've got no personality but they do but they just don't show it and I feel like that's where I went into it so I thought I had to act a certain way like I had to be like these like boring kind of style videos to be in the gym community um but I feel like it's wrong because now now that even when I do a kind of gym video I've noticed that people people they see me like posing and whatnot but they don't see me not that people are arrogant or anything when they pose or whatnot but they don't see me as that now because they know what I'm like as a person so I've noticed as well I get some funny comments like oh McKenna's personality is like I don't know it'll be like the angel emoji and then him in the gym like flexing

um so I think what that's where the gym community I don't know they have a it has a bad rep and it's not intentionally like on one person doing this but it's just how it is overall yeah absolutely I definitely kind of had that like epiphany and realization like I didn't come from like a fitness gym world at all really until I kind of decided to just like walk in and just be like okay I'm gonna start gym and I was like even like with gym bros like I was so terrified like I feel like there's all these stereotypes about guys and it's just like so not true at all and I really tried to like you know like instilling people like you just need to let go of all those like ideas you have about people in the gym if you are looking to get into gym because it's just it's just not like that

at all like everyone's just like honestly i just feel like the nicest kindest people but i do agree like i do feel like a lot of the fitness industry i i don't feel like the uk so much but like certainly the u.s the u.s yeah i think it's a lot more intense over there yeah um i know um someone when i was talking about it the other day said i thought it was quite a nice way of putting it like the uk's got like a softer i don't know how how they said it but like we've got a softer sort of content like the content that sticks for the uk creators and that does really well is people being more like themselves and showing those sorts of sides rather than that real aesthetic like polished super super polished it just doesn't really stick with British people

I feel like as much so um do you would you say for you guys like lifting is like you're at your like core it's your essence you don't really like stray too far from it is that like i don't even like the gym anymore okay wait wait what's going on there okay you're gonna have to break that down oh my god how long we got well it's a podcast so quite a while uh no i've always loved going to the gym right but i mean right now in the last like two months when i've had a had a bit of personal stuff going on i have not gone to the gym willingly once like i know i have to for like one to make content and two just to not lose gains and stuff and to get out the house but i've never been i mean I suppose in uni I was but no I feel like I

feel I I've never been tunnel visioned like that right and I've got absolutely nothing against like people that want to be professional bodybuilders and want to like you know go on the the necessary supplements that need to need to be uh need to be done to like get in the best shape of your life but i know that i'm not tunnel visioned enough where just to get a trophy and a few titles i would want to put myself at risk and also let's be honest in the eyes of the general population it's not a good look to be like a mass monster right and i know that like some people definitely friends that i've seen and stuff are like i want to get big i want to get as big as possible and they think they genuinely believe that like i mean the easiest example is

girls but i'm talking about the general population but they genuinely believe that like a girl will find it attractive to be as big and veiny as possible and everything like that so a very unpopular opinion that people hear out on my mouth is that i am genuinely fine with my physique right now like i don't want to get much bigger i don't want to get a very good physique i feel like i feel like your version your your version of like yeah but i also know people that also have a very good physique but want to get huge. True.

You know? True. So in terms of like, back to your question, like is lifting my essence, I would say general like enjoying life and health and well-being and fitness is, you know? I enjoy the gym other than right this second but like generally i enjoy going to the gym and that's why i go to the gym and i enjoy progression and

everything like that and i'm very scared of regression so that's why i go to the gym to improve my overall life not just to lift heavy ass weights and get as big as possible i assume you're similar you know what i always thought well I think this is where I had the mentality of like, I need to get big, like to get accepted into this community and like be big online or whatnot. But you know what? I've actually come to realize, obviously I still want to improve.

I want to be a better version of me every day, not just in terms of the gym, but like just in overall life. Um, but, and I still want to progress in the gym. Obviously I still want to, I don't know.

I want to get a bit more jacked and whatnot but i'm actually i think it's getting the point where and it was after the phil heath actually documentary what he said at the end it was like amazing yeah did you see the documentary i haven't seen him but i met him yeah i he said something and it was uh i'm actually starting to actually be happy with the way i look obviously don't get me wrong, everyone has their bad days where you look and you're like, oh my God, I'm not happy with the way I look. But I'm starting to get a bit more acceptance and sense of I don't need to be this big jack guy because I train like a bodybuilder,

I eat like a bodybuilder, but I don't want to be the biggest guy or whatever. I just want to, I don't know, I just want to be happy with the way I look. Yeah, happy, healthy, loving what you're doing what so what is your guys's current like training split how much are you training like what does that look like for you guys you want to answer that I don't know pushable legs rest day yeah so is that what you mean yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly how much are you training but I will say it's been a bit all over the place the past few weeks even for myself I would say mine has always been all over the place and that's not saying like that's the best way to do it but referencing back to what I just said the gym is more the gym is just something I

do on a daily basis I mean not right now but like it's just part of my daily routine when people ask me like oh how do I get motivated to do this like somehow it just became part of my day the same way brushing my teeth is you know and that's just because yeah to be honest I had the motivation in the beginning but it just became so normal to me that it's just a normal thing to do now like I genuinely don't know what to do with my day if I don't have that in so a quick bit of advice for people looking to like get into the gym but don't feel they have the motivation I would just say go and don't even you don't even have to do much just go for 10 minutes and then generally you're going to get there and after 10 minutes you'll be like all right this is all right I'll do a bit longer but don't you don't have to plan on doing an hour and a half hard session if you're not feeling like it go for 10 minutes you might stay there for half an hour then the next day still go again you might just want to chat to

someone in there but the fact that you're going and it's becoming natural with your day then you'll start going back to my point because it's just part of my day and part of the routine like I just go to the gym anyway and don't really follow much of a split right now if one muscle isn't aching and I didn't do it yesterday or the day before I'll train it like that's not the way to do it I wouldn't say that but right now that's what I'm doing and it's kind of the same with you and we do train every muscle group other than legs sometimes generally twice a week and that's just how we go about it really so okay so I think I've got all these really simply put push pull legs okay so we know how you're training you're basically just doing you are training so on average how many days a

week are you training okay i'll talk about before the last like two months then like five days a week and it would be push pull legs shoulders and, shoulders and arms, rest, push, pull, legs, shoulders and arms, rest. And that's just what I like doing. And so what's it currently? Currently, it's rest, rest, rest. Oh, I should probably train. I'll do a bit of chest, bit of arms, bit of back. I'll do legs tomorrow, but then end up doing legs like three weeks down the line

like it's things like that i did my first leg day in like seven weeks about two days ago i did two sets of squats it was only 140 kilograms for three reps for two sets which is diabolical for me because i've done 180 for nine reps before so i did those two sets and then I did two sets of leg extensions and then I was like yeah I'll leave now and then my legs were dead the day after. How the doms yeah. Bro it was so bad because I hadn't trained them in so long but I seriously was looking in the mirror and my legs were gone like gone so. I think it's um this thing that is so frustrating about gym but it's actually the most beautiful thing that like you have to work to keep things how they're looking right with gym and it's like you can be so envious of how someone looks and you can be like feel all these feelings

of jealousy or whatever but ultimately like they look the way they do because they work for it and just because you've worked with something doesn't mean it's here to stay and i think that's like it's a beautiful thing it's frustrating when you lose your gains it's hella frustrating but it's actually really beautiful you know i mean like it's um also this thing of like progress is not linear. Definitely. Yeah. So like what do you do to get out of a rut? It seems like you're kind of in one. I think me personally, it kind of just comes over time.

Like eventually I will just get out of the rut. I'll naturally find new motivation, new discipline and stuff. You just ride the wave yeah I've been in a lot of ruts and this one is my biggest rut ever because it's been catalyzed by an actual like event in my life um whereas I've been in previous ruts where you just have no clue why and the ones where you have no clue why I'm always able to just tell myself I will get out of it eventually so I'm fine for now the biggest thing is accepting that you're currently in a rut and maybe just allowing yourself to be in a rut

because there's a reason you're in a rut like there's something going on even let's just let's just say on a day-to-day basis right so you've been fine you've been fine but then you're just having one of those days the best thing to do and I learned this actually from Anna and Archer is just accept it allow yourself to have this off day rather than like having the off day but then still trying to do things but then you end up procrastinating and don't do things if you were to just set like five hours to genuinely just rest and switch off you have a far better chance of getting back into it the next day than if you procrastinate and like just like get annoyed at yourself for not doing the things that you would normally do in that day um so yeah and that can be on a day-to-day basis a week basis like even if it lasts like three weeks

maybe you just got to accept it yes you also got to accept that at some point you're gonna have to get your ass off this offer and do something but yeah i would say just allow yourself to have a rut and then allow yourself to naturally get out of it what about you son i don't know i don't really have a way to get out of them oh i don't know do you do you get have you found yourself in many ruts yeah you do no no no i think i have ruts where like it'll be about like loads of different things I think I get overwhelmed um I don't really know how to explain my thoughts that well you know I don't know I would think I struggle with putting my thoughts into words yeah sometimes I don't actually know how I feel yeah I don't even know if that makes sense what I've just said it does

oh my god totally it's like everything's swimming around in your head and sometimes you haven't even had time to or like the space to think about something until someone asks you and then you're just like I don't actually know I don't know it's good to say you don't know take a moment and like you also don't have to answer anything you don't want to what about you uh what was the question give us some insight on your previous ruts and how you oh ruts oh bloody hell um i feel like yeah i definitely agree with you about just like giving yourself the space to like just feel the feels right and then i think just kind of taking it as it comes and easing yourself back into it. Yeah, doing the things you love, I think, is a really great way to get back into it. And being good company.

I think it's really nice that you guys have good company. I think that makes a massive difference. I've been in somewhat of a rut, I'd say, since moving to Manchester. I don't know, my life is very different now to how it was and I really really notice the impact not training with my friends does that was like so much of like my identity as a creator but as an individual and as a gym girl and I don't have a friendship circle here that like trains you know and it's like part and part because I just haven't really reached out to anyone I'm too busy and like life is different

now but um you know I do think training with people really does help and it really makes a difference and it gives you that like motivation when you're not really you don't want to show up and you know so yeah you know what I when i because obviously when i was at home i didn't have anyone to train with and i used to i'd be like i didn't really like i i didn't have friends to train with when i was at home and now i've went into like and i didn't mind it i didn't mind the fact that i trained alone but then i think it came to the point where i met james and then james was like mckenna you train like a bitch and i was because i was just he was i was going i was going into the gym on like cruise control and i'm like why am i not progressing on weights James was like, McKenna, you train like a bitch. And I was, cause I was just, I was going, I was going into the gym on like cruise control. And I'm like, why am I not progressing on weights?

I was like, I would train to, at me first I would say I trained to failure, but in the sense of with the wrong weight, I wasn't trying to up the weight. Like I'd be like, no, I'd tell myself I can't do that. I can't do that weight. And then James was like, it was with the dumbbells. I went from doing 32 kg dumbbells to literally attempting the 42 kg dumbbells in the span of the month um and I got like three reps and I never thought I'd even be able to touch that that kind of weight um and now it's like I don't know I'm getting I really enjoy going to the gym with people because I think because of that you're able to push me and

I like that and now I don't really want to train alone yeah I think even like for me it's like not necessarily like I've always been super independent and like I love that journey for myself and I love like walking into the gym alone and like whatever so that's fine but it's like even having a friendly face to say hi to in the gym it just makes a difference it feels like you you're like you've got people to like go there for you know I mean like I have a bit of a different take on it as well though okay go on I can't wait to hear so I found my love for working out completely alone in my bedroom okay right I would do push-ups pull-ups in my bedroom I had a little pull-up bar and stuff like it all started alone I got my gym

membership alone to my local gym back at home I would go alone I would get in the zone like and then at uni obviously I was then training with friends Sam and that and here I've obviously been training with like someone else every time and there was one point like a couple weeks ago where I was thinking yeah I do want to go to the gym like I've kind of regressed again like I don't even really want to go to the gym right now but two weeks ago or so I said to you didn't I was like I need to go to the gym alone to find the love for the gym that I have on my own again because admittedly when we go to the gym 30% of it in our minds is making content another 20% is just having a laugh and a chit chat and like the other 50 is

working out and you know that thing like and this is just really specifically for us but like when it becomes your job it like it's tiresome you don't really want to do it anymore that happened to me with the gym like so i need to go alone again to try and make it become a hobby again which i haven't been successful with yet because i am still yet to go alone again to try and make it become a hobby again which I haven't been successful with yet because I am still yet to go to the gym properly but we'll see it's so hard because it's like everything can become content so then you feel like am I missing out by not doing so and um I found it really interesting I wonder what you guys will make of this. So like I've always been like a gym girl. And then really only like a couple of months ago,

I started like training at a CrossFit gym as well. And I was doing the two. And it really allowed me to have this separation between like filming content in a gym, but then also going and doing CrossFit. And it's really interesting there because it really helped me create some proper like strong boundaries not because I really wanted to but because I had to

I would have loved to have filmed being like being there but they don't I found it interesting they don't let you film or like use your phone when I go there I'm like I don't even have the option to and it's like do you give yourself like the space to just like be you in the gym without the phone without the camera no no I don't give myself space from my phone all day it's really terrible but I wake up first thing I look at is my phone and up until I go to bed I'm looking at my phone it's's in my pocket. It's in my hand. Unfortunately, I mean, it's a cool feature, but my phone is what's used to get into my apartment.

I don't have a key or anything. Like to get into the building, to get through all the doors, to get into the gym and the games room and all that, it's my phone. To get into my actual apartment is my phone, which means I have not left my phone for five months. It's been in my pocket all day every single day yeah which is terrible i want to be able to leave my apartment without my phone but i can't yeah i need to fix somehow i i find like even when i try and do a task you're like right i've got to sit down and do this and the next thing i know i'm on my phone and i put my phone i'm like no stop start doing the task and

i pick my phone up and it's really and I find myself doing that it's really infuriating like it's frustrating I almost feel like it makes me feel like I've got ADHD with my phone do you well in some ways I guess we all do have attention deficit like definitely yeah like catalyzed I think in order to be successful on social media you gotta have something you know yeah let's be honest the most I mean normal like the most you know what I'm on about like they don't end up on social media like everyone that does social media that I know respectfully has something serious I think the most normal person i know on social media is will

my friend will be like everyone else we all have something do you like do you guys i'd be really interested to know from like a male perspective like there's a lot of emphasis for girls on like well not specifically girls but i just not really heard a like male perspective like do you do a lot of like downtime for like do you practice like mindfulness activities or do you just like laugh when you hear that kind of stuff like is that something that you feel like you have to have in your life I did the most of that when I was in my Loughborough uni house actually. And for some reason, I had a passion for it. Like I was seriously always thinking about like my mental health and doing all that.

Like I wasn't doing it well, but I was always thinking about doing that. I was going on walks and stuff and doing all that other stuff. And I just haven't thought about doing that since I've moved to Manchester, which I should do. But since I moved here, like first apartment, living alone, like it's my expectation in my head was like, go, go, go, you know. And then I realized it isn't that.

And I could potentially just work for like four hours and then have the rest of my day to do something. But at this current moment in time, I'm yet to figure it out. You know what what i don't think i've ever really given myself downtime really yeah i think um i don't know i see like walks yeah i would never go be like right i'm gonna go for a walk to clear my head just does it never crosses my mind and i don't know if that maybe i suspected that would be the answer i asked him the other day i like we were out right we got a subway and stuff and then i was like let's just walk around for a bit before going back to our apartments because if we go back to our apartments we're gonna do like the same thing

we're gonna be doing for the rest of our fucking oh my bad you can swear okay for the rest of our like you know like he was like no let's just go to our apartment and then i don't know why i do an impression and it's like kind of accurate but also not on he's like no james let's go to our apartment and edit a video and then go to the gym and i was like bruv that is what we will continue to do for our whole time living here does that sound fun no let's go for a little 20 minute walk okay he's like no i don't know i this i think i i don't i think i struggle with my own like thoughts i don't know like yeah i've never given myself i never give myself downtime i don't think i don't know because it's scary to sit with yourself like who are you without all your distractions like you know like even even like thinking in the future it's like what you so what you're gonna do like where you're

gonna be yes that scares me so i don't want to think about it so you're avoidant like yeah like also like i don't know what i don't really know what i'm doing next week like unless obviously i've there's something planned but i'm not planning my life ahead i'm very much like the the whole time I think even with my social media it's always just been it just if it comes it comes if something happens it happens I don't and I don't know if that's the wrong way no that's fine I mean I actually think that's quite a nice way to live honestly without this like perpetual like state I don't know ignorance is bliss yeah honestly I've been on both sides of

the spectrum when i was in loughborough i for like for like my first five months of living in my second year uni house i very much had the um mindset of you know uh neil in the in-betweeners right you know how he's a bit not really there ahead like he's like you know I'm just happy right I had that yeah and then something switched I genuinely don't know what switched but something switched where I seriously started to become so self-aware and like you know seriously deep dive into my emotions and like what's gonna make me feel better what's making me feeling worse and like so I've been on both sides of the spectrum and I understand the benefit to being like really unaware of your emotions and like kind of ignorant in that way um but then again my progression

wasn't there but then obviously when you start thinking about your emotions like sometimes if you just the more you think about it the more it becomes real you know what I mean whereas I wasn't thinking about it before so it didn't exist in my mind and I'm still yet to know what's what's the best way to do it I wonder if it's like also you guys being like men as well is like wrapped up in I don't know like a little bit I feel like women are a lot it's a lot easier for women to just be like explore like oh what are my emotions how i'm feeling like are you girls all right like you know but i wonder for guys if it's not so much like that i mean maybe i'm wrong i don't know but i think we're really lucky as a friend group because we can actually speak about

emotions like i've had serious deep chats with will before you came to manchester and everything like because will lives in my building so like i would be able to go and sit alone with him and so like yeah we all actually speak well about our emotions but i understand in general like a lot of men don't um i mean do you remember when nando's yeah i pulled some tears out of mckenna's eyes oh you know you speak about that that's a good story so obviously with like obviously being jim shark and like the obviously you know your code usage and whatnot and i think this way i would struggle like i didn't have a community i was growing but on paper or anything like that it just wasn't it wasn't translating over and then you know like the 66 uh what was it 66 hour sale something oh yeah yeah and obviously

i've been prior to that probably like what a month and a bit or something i've just like shown my personality obviously for the longest time i wanted cuny and uh obviously i posted about the sale i didn't i didn't know really what to expect of it and then next thing i know to see i check it and i was with sam when it was happening and obviously i just saw the numbers and i was like what the fuck and i i then but then again i don't think i deeped it what was happening i was just like okay i was like wow okay this has happened and then we were at nando's and then um james deeped it for me yeah and i was like oh shit i was like oh wow okay went outside and spoke to my mom and i was telling my mom what happened and i don't know what i think when i heard my mom's voice i started like i just broke down a little and then uh I came back in and James James I think I was did you say I was okay or something one of you something

yeah you just like you just sat down like lent into me and started bawling yeah I just broke down again but I don't know I think it was happy I was like obviously happy it was just like because what just me being myself and just seeing what what that has changed I don't know I can't I'm so bad with my words you can probably explain it better to me so McKenna very much had the same struggle I had and I'm sure a lot of people have is like like making it like feel real so when I first like joined Gymshark and everything and I was like on the front cover of Gymshark's website and everything I basically did to McKenna what Anna did for me was like deeping it for me to realize it so like when I was like posting on Instagram and stuff like Anna would like FaceTime me and be like do you understand how

big that is and stuff like that and like when we were talking about any you know how how we performed on a on a certain sale or something like one time oh it was like Black Friday or something we were calling about it and she goes uh how do you feel and I was like yeah uh it is what it is and like that was a serious problem in my head and I knew it was and I was like James come on like that is incredible whatever and then I would like start to feel it and get real and like like be grateful and everything like that and feel how far I've come and everything like that and I was seeing in McKenna that he wasn't understanding it or being proud of himself so I just basically told him it's okay to be proud of himself and like I also put like did some

comparisons of things um like if we're talking money wise I compared it to what he would have previously been earning a year ago you know and like he was just like oh yeah and then you went to speak to your mom and then you came back oh no you came back and then i said all that stuff and then you like finally no no you so you deeped it and then i and then you went to your mom then you came back yeah yeah and i was like yeah i really at some point i really needed to cry the way he did but i for some reason i just couldn't I've never been much of a crier, you know. I think you've seen me cry once, but I've had some good reason to cry recently. Yeah.

And then he cried and I was like, yes, like let it out. Like I wish I was jealous of the fact that he was crying right then. I said that to you, didn't I? I said I wish I had let that out. Because it is hard, especially like it was only in a month that it all changed real quick yeah like it was slowly changing like building his following and everything but like only in this month since he's actually started showing himself that it's all changed really dramatically and he just needed someone to like

help him realize it's mad because when you just see numbers it's just like i wasn't ungrateful about it but i feel like you just become numb to it it's just like it's a number totally i mean it's like it's no wonder in ways it's hard for us to fathom and that our sort of coping mechanism is to just kind of be like really nonchalant about it and like oh yeah no it's fine like yeah it's cool just look at that insane number um and it's only really when people like try to put it in perspective for you by saying like you know that's the amount of people that are in like the whole entire country of so and so but I mean we haven't this is I think something that I struggle with and I imagine a lot of creators struggle with like we haven't evolved to have like this many opinions or like whatever you know like the whole concept

of having followers quote-unquote followers is like really foreign and like no wonder that it's hard to wrap your head around the fact that all these people are really invested in you and believe in you and you know i mean especially if it's been in a really short period of time like there's no there's no wonder that that's like something that you're like whoa i think it's so new and niche as well yeah definitely obviously you guys have a little bromance going on. So we're going to play a little game of his and hers. All right. You guys can choose who is who. So we're doing like most likely two

and you guys can choose. Obviously this is a podcast. We do have video format. So obviously you guys watching on YouTube will be watching. But for the audio listeners, we're going to need some sort of buzzer right we don't have any buzzers so you guys are gonna have to create one i'll just say names then yeah so you're just gonna we'll just say it okay so first one is most

likely to move countries three two one james no mckenna bro you want to go traveling and everything i oh no actually he's scared of traveling to london on no no no no no no i do want to travel i i think this is before i had like you and whatnot i want james and sam and all that no like i want i want them to come like because originally because i didn't have friends to travel with or anything i was going to go to the u.s alone and that was sort of like my plan. Oh, yeah. And then now I'm like... Now you're roping them into...

I'm like, yeah. And the fact that I've moved to Manchester for them and whatnot. I'm like, I want... Fuck off! Hold on. I did. You know what? I did, though.

Your little clout chaser. This is your journey. No, no, no. Your little clout chaser. No, sure, no. Okay, next one. Most likely to get a bad tattoo? Shit, this is hard. okay next one most likely to get a bad tattoo uh shit okay three two one i would say me i would yeah we didn't say at the same time i'm gonna say you but then again i wouldn't get tattoos i love tattoos but i wouldn't get tattoos okay i'm gonna

change my answer i think me i wouldn't get tattoos either i nearly did think of getting like a little cute one when i was in my sadness the other day but um i would say me purely because i drink and mckenna doesn't and if we were on holiday and i'd had a few drinks maybe i would get one yeah you know okay that's right sam would go hey come let's get a tattoo and i go yeah come and that's how it goes sam has a tattoo of a smiley face on his foot i literally that's such a classic like i'd be the thing except he got it at school lunchtime i don't know if i should have told that story no he can't well let us know if not no no he doesn't care uh okay most likely to date a fan three two one james no way bro no way i don't know you know what i've actually never

deemed that either i don't know would you would you date a fan i don't know because i'm i have no clue i guess it just depends oh i don't know i really don't know i guess it's to the extent in which they like my boyfriend knew who i was but like that's it you see you know what i mean like didn't find me had literally just seen me and just said like when i first met him like oh by the way i think i know what your job is but like if they came across as a fan now yeah my previous knew who i was I believe I don't know and you were fine with that well it's kind of hard if they if they're passionate about gym as well it's kind of hard to find someone who I don't know I think I've got a good radar so like maybe if they were a fan or something

but like if it was genuinely not just because I have a social media following or something but you know what like I think the struggle is when people are hesitant about it is this whole like thing of you know what a parasocial relationship is and it's like this idea that like it's it's like a one like their your audience knows you I like feel like they really know you because in ways they do but it doesn't go the other way around like you don't know them so when you meet each other it's like this weird dynamic well not necessarily weird but I mean sometimes it can be weird of like I know you really well but you and I know like everything

that's happened in your life but you don't know me at all you know so I think that would be the only thing with a dating a fan is that they know much. That's why I wouldn't want to because they know so much about you. Yeah. And you don't really know much about them. Yeah. I mean, that depends on what you class as a fan. Because maybe there's a girl that has seen me or maybe follows me, but maybe it's purely for aesthetic and doesn't know anything about me.

Yeah. You know? But I don't know anything about me yeah you know but I don't know so there's hope out there ladies um okay most likely to quit social media forever me so there was no countdown me me okay is this a thing you think of every day no i'm kidding um you don't have to go into the into it no probably just because i really like creating content and stuff but sometimes the rest of it just you know you know what it wouldn't be to do with creating it wouldn't be quitting creating but if i didn't do social media as a career mums i would have deleted tiktok and instagram ages ago because i scroll on it too much that's all that's the only one day i will probably have a mental breakdown and delete the apps for a

bit but not because i want to quit the making it i just want to quit i know uh i actually do you know cassia she's like a runner oh does she yeah yeah so she said that she said it's all about creating not consuming and i was like yeah yeah but i consume far too much i consume far too much uh okay most likely to get arrested three two one james sorry sorry didn't realize we're doing kind of yeah because we won't be a good boy or or because James is just a wild card? No, I'm not. If there was levels of wild card, like I wouldn't be at the top,

but also McKenna would be at the very bottom. McKenna, if I go 35 mile an hour in a 30, James, slow down, slow down. I don't break the speed limit. No, no, no, no. No, of course, none of us do. I put the cruise control on to make sure I don't go over also you know what my family yeah we're in New York yeah my family loves to joke about

this like you know how in America it's illegal to jaywalk yeah so obviously in New York it's like every square you can't like there's basically a crossing I would wait until that thing's like I would stop at every one until we could cross but my family would walk across oh crazy oh right okay whereas i would

stand away and so they got me an nypd t-shirt yeah okay um most likely to date another creator huh three two one james i haven't amongst incredible rumors that are still going on yeah but i haven't okay because it's me and you right yeah me and mckenna most likely to go a week without a shower three two one james bro no no because you know i would not no i shower every day i don't want to i didn't really want to call you dirty so i don't know no no like if i'm calm absolutely not but one of my absolute like when i'm in my serious serious mental health ruts yeah i will like i could go two days without showering i've never gone a week no way but obviously yeah no okay that's literally so normal okay maybe three all right maybe four

but i would never put that i would never burden anyone else with it so i would i wouldn't have i wouldn't leave the apartment for a week as well you know what i mean i wouldn't ever like not shower and still go out and do things no because i am so scared of the gym no I shower before the gym just in case I start smelling in the gym next one most likely to have a finster account to stalk people three two one McKenna you have one in it no but I think i think i think i would maybe do that yeah fair i mean i've got another instagram account that i just haven't posted on in like four years but i wouldn't i don't stalk anyone on it yeah i'm not really much of a stalker i really don't why can't wait why can't you stalk on your normal account it doesn't tell them that you've seen it

i think maybe if it's if they're private and maybe for stories like if people have much smaller oh that's true a story would be there I just view stories do you? yeah

sometimes he's like yeah I'm Jones Beardwell okay final one most likely to be late to things oh three two one me McKenathom out i've heard you're

a fathom yeah i'm a fathom biggest what are you doing i think i don't know i just one i stress about things i'm like do i have everything but also but like to do like a simple task like even just getting changed or go in the shower i procrastinate between jobs like to do like a simple task, like even just getting changed or go in the shower, I procrastinate between jobs. Like to do the most simplest things, like even I'm like, right, I've got to cook, but to get to the cooking part, I will procrastinate and faff. I will admit that I would be late as well.

It's you faff, I have a huge lack of urgency. Yeah. You know, but- I have a lack of urgency. Yeah, but you faff in the meantime meantime but you'll be rushing faffing like if you're about to leave your apartment you're like keys everything like i would just like sit on the sofa and like then leave yeah we've got different ends of the spectrum here but we're all just late. What do you guys have coming up? What are you working on right now?

Or what's the vibe? There's a couple of secret stuff, like personally. What about you? I think we can, no, we can definitely say that we're going to do a podcast at some point. So sick.

You didn't tell me that. No, no, no. I knew obviously. You didn't know you were going to have a podcast tell me that what no no no i knew obviously what you didn't know you were gonna be no no no no i knew about the podcast but i didn't know we could yeah yeah we're gonna yeah we're doing a podcast for sure i feel like james you said this like over the we were watching one of your podcasts you did and you were like yeah i did a podcast my car so it's been on your mind for a so it's been on your mind for a

while it's been on my mind for a very long time but I was just worried like doing a solo podcast I was worried like I'll just run out of things to talk about um and also a solo podcast where you like have guests on I just you know I'm bad with admin and stuff I would probably just forget to try and find a guest or something yeah so I think I think it would just be incredibly natural funny entertaining and deep with just having me McKenna Will and Sam I think there's something really nice about that like and I think offering something that isn't existing in the space that's what we're like trying to do with this like there aren't really any gym girl focused podcasts

that interview guests and like do that sort of thing and then in the same way there's not like a group of boys like in the gym space I mean unless there is I don't know definitely not on the UK scene and it's like you know you'll have a really you guys will have a really good chemistry and like you'll be able to just talk about you know people want to feel like they're part of something so they'll feel like they're just chatting with their friends or like listening to their friends chat so i think that's really exciting i think what's nice as well to be fair people who watch you know me you will sam like as well there's almost like because obviously the crossover into each other's content

but also like the you can see in the comment section it's like obviously everyone gets a different point of view from yeah different you know all of us as content creators um and yeah obviously the chemistry's there it's not forced at all because if it had to be forced we wouldn't do we wouldn't be friends no you knowenna's like, he's so cute, man. Sometimes he's like, are you sure you want me to be? I'm like, bruv, I wouldn't have invited you if I didn't want to. When was this? I'm kind of.

Oh, wait, was this at your home? Wait, when was this? Like, whenever you stayed at mine or stayed at Sam's or something, you were just like, are you sure? You know, like, I'm pretty. Yeah, because I never want to overstay my welcome and be like, I loved being there. I loved being at yours. I loved being at Sam's. And I i never want to over i never want to overstay my welcome and be like i loved being there i loved being at yours i love being at sam's and i didn't want to go home but also i know everyone needs their own space so i don't want to overstay my welcome yeah if you if you if you generally said to me like look like i want my own space i'd be like come that's fine

like so yeah i always obviously did ask and like make sure like hey look i'm not i'm not being that person it's like oh god when's he gonna go home absolutely well i feel like we've like spoke at length we've had cameras die we've waited around and everything but no this has been so incredible and i'm so glad you guys came on and it's really nice to like allow people to see like a different side of you that maybe they wouldn't have known had they not listened to you today so i i certainly learned a lot so it was really great to speak to you um thanks do you want to do you want to plug yourself where can people find you uh just both our names james beardwell mckenna crisp on uh instagram tiktok uh podcast coming soon podcast coming soon we had to think of a name oh yeah yeah we need to do that but genuinely thank you so much and thank you as well cool amazing come see ya