GYM GIRLS LOCKER ROOM - Lucy Davis on EXTREME highs & lows of hybrid training, steroid accusations and pregnancy rumours 👀

Episode Date: May 7, 2024

EP10 - In this episode Syd sits down with the one and only, Lucy Haldon (AKA Lucy Davis Fit). Lucy's athletic accolades are off the charts and to top if off Luch also co-hosts The Not So Fit Couple Podcast and is the founder of MyCoach. In this epsiode Syd and Lucy spill all the tea on Lucy's training split, managing burn out and anxiety, staying authentic online, the impact of clickbait content and more. WATCH the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/UHirXu0Y-f0 connect with Lucy: https://www.instagram.com/lucydavis_fit/ https://mycoachcommunity.co.uk/ https://linktr.ee/Thenotsofitcouple 💘 join the GGLR community: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/gymgirlslockerroom/ FACEBOOK COMMUNITY PAGE - https://bit.ly/3TqhxDG TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@gymgirlslockerroom/ 📲 find Syd on socials: INSTA - https://www.instagram.com/sydgrows/ TIKTOK - https://www.tiktok.com/@sydgrows/ GYMSHARK - 10% off code: SYDNEY

You have one f***ing life. I will do everything I can to have it fulfilled. I love movement. I have since I was a tiny, tiny baby girl. I'm very curious about how far you can push yourself. That curiosity's always been there. I go into the RV and there's just blood. And I was like, what the f*** is that?

The past six years I've been on socials, I've been very transparent and very noble from the start. I want to have muscle, it's so sexy. The only reason I was deeply saddened by this was because I thought I'd let everyone down. That is definitely on the agenda. I didn't want to say it out loud but I was like we really would love a baby. Hello guys and welcome back to the Gym Girls Locker Room Podcast with your host Sydney Cassidy aka Sid Grose. Honestly guys, I swear to God one day I will get a good intro. I feel like I'm still in that awkward phase.

You know, we're only a few episodes in, we're working this shit out. Guys, I am so excited to bring you this episode. I felt emotional the whole entire time to be able to have such a incredibly powerful conversation with someone that I look up to so much and brings so much value and positivity to the fitness industry has just been incredible. We have none other than Lucy Davis, who many of you will know as the YouTuber, social media creator, business owner of MyCoach and the

co-host of Not So Fit Couple. And also just like a generally insane athlete, like just incredible just the endless list of accolades she has achieved in literally only the last six months let alone the rest of her career is just incredible and I felt that I gained personally so much from this conversation and I know you guys will too we covered motivation training hard and pushing through what you thought was actually possible being too much and not being enough and this endless kind of scrutiny that is pushed upon women in the fitness space and in life we spoke about resilience and building up that resilience over time to be someone that is like just able to just go out there and live a happy life and do things that they just want to because they get so much from it. Being friends with pain,

the good, the bad and the ugly side of social media and how to be the ultimate hybrid athlete. I am so pleased to bring you this episode. Thank you so much, Lucy, for coming on. Remember, you guys can follow us at Gym Girls Locker Room on all platforms. And without further ado, let's get into the episode. Okay, well, Lucy Frickin Davis is on the podcast. I'm so excited to be here. Oh my God, so happy to have you. This is great. I'm just, I'm settling in. I'm so excited to be here oh my god this is great I'm

just I'm settling in I'm here for the long journey now yeah honestly you really are because you've already been here for like 45 minutes I've been flapping we've been gossiping we had a catch up and it was well it was well overdue because I have not seen you since you were on our podcast yes and the thing is you don't actually get to chat much about each other or lives or anything like that when you're on a podcast because we've got too many questions to talk about exactly so I'm impressed with myself to even be able to multitask honestly that's a struggle of mine okay I'm gonna jump in um okay so we were doing some research on you okay so love this correct me if i'm wrong but since november right we've had 130 kilometer trek to mount everest yeah we've had lanzarote marathon

321 time which is insane and that was like how long after that was 10 days after base camp of course it was yeah uh and you were first under 30 female second british woman eighth overall ultra marathon 57.87 kilometers five hours 13 minutes oh january high rocks british record 57 minutes 59 insane with sister with sister with sister dreams dream team um then we have ran from la to freaking las vegas 350 mile relay 35 hours 35 minutes in march london marathon in april and then next week geneva marathon do you know what when you put it like that bonkers it's but that i never i never lay out like that so when you you were listening then I thought I did do a lot actually from November I forgot that I did two really big

things November December and that was last year but last year was that wasn't that long ago we're only four months in. Yes. I like very very significant things they were very significant things and like life-changing moments completely and so right off of that I'm thinking how okay so I'm the type of person who obviously really enjoys a challenge and it's not even it's not even just testing my physical body I started doing that when I signed up for the 100k a couple of years ago just to see like I'm very curious about how far you can push yourself with pain and your mindset and that curiosity has always been there and then I realized like there's there's a lot that I want to do and I was like okay I want to do

Everest base camp but then there's a marathon right after and I thought well I won't have ran for a month whilst being in Nepal but then will the altitude affect my marathon like how will I feel so I am a very curious person I like the saying ready for nothing. No, no. Train for nothing. There's my saying is wrong. Train for nothing, ready for anything. Yes. And it basically means I'm not necessarily training for anything.

It looks like I'm training for war, like weather war, but I'm not training for anything specific. I train for so many things. My volume always stays relatively high so I can say yes to more opportunities like the speed project for example did the ultra in Jan so much fun it was like a looped one so I'd never done one of those first female in that and then what did I have after the ultra high rocks I had Rocks two weeks later and got the British record with Megan which was

incredible and I'd been training for an ultra which is like long distance running but I was never not training for High Rocks

I was doing both of them because why not I've got the capability to do it we did really well in Manchester it was a little bit

of a shock actually honestly when we finished we were like oh that was that was a little bit of a shock actually. Honestly, when we finished, we were like, whoa, that was a really good run out. Really? Yeah. So, and then straight away, I had a message from Nick Bear and he was like, do you want to come and run from LA to Vegas?

And I thought, yeah, because I feel like I can, like I'm trained for it. And when you say yes to different things or like London Marathon that was a random one I only found out about that about that in March Strava like do you want to come do London Marathon and I was trying to calculate oh it's two weeks after the speed project and I've got Janine and I just kept saying yes to all these opportunities whereas in the end I've been able to do it insane we a question we love to ask people at the top of the episode is what is your split so like bouncing off of that you're saying okay you're always

prepped always ready always doing volume what is it looking like split honestly this is one of the most common questions that I get it's like more of a hybrid athlete and that word's always always thrown around it's the buzzword and you know what i think it's a fucking sick word like i think being hybrid is cool and it's just a nice it's a nice thing to be so there's there's definitely certain people in the industry who try and like gatekeeper or say you can't do this you can't do that if you're doing endurance and you're doing strength that's that is the definition of hybrid so whatever people want to call it my workout split i i'm also look at my week as like a 10 day block rather than seven days because people always say to me like how many rest days you take when you do this so i look at my training as like a 10 week not a 10 week a 10 day yeah it is fucking 10

weeks but a 10 day rather than seven so monday should i just tell you my whole week so listen we are all interested we certainly are we certainly are obviously i'm very big on still building muscle like it's always a priority and it will fluctuate depending if i've got marathons or ultras it'll be up and down i'll lose weight and then it'll come back but Monday is glutes it's legs it's hitting legs really hard and doing strength work for hip thrust RDLs that sort of thing and then about a 15 minute high rocks WOD which would just be ergs and sled push probably like keeping it quite leggy based. Tuesday is an aerobic easy run so that's anywhere from 12 to 20k just a really enjoyable run no no purpose just zone two zone three work. Wednesday is upper body functional with a high rocks wad so again like kind of bodybuilding work but a little bit more functional so there

might be cleans in there or like snatches with a dumbbell I do not mess with barbell snatches and I'm too scared for that um with a high rocks element Thursday is a long interval run probably one of the hardest sessions of the week so that'll be anywhere from 12 to 21k depending on what races I've got coming up. Friday I train at hybrid and I do WAM so it's like a high rock session essentially very functional fitness based or take a rest day sometimes I'll if I feel like i need it i'll take a rest day saturday's long run day and that'll be anywhere over 21k up to i don't know 38 40k depending if i've got an ultra mic prepping for that or it might be 21k very different could be aerobic could be hard whatever sunday is an hour and a half long ass hard high rock session really like they're almost like a sim

simulation yeah yeah but it's not like a full set out symbol it's all the exercise it's a lot of running in there it's at least 10k worth of running at hybrid do that every sunday and then i will take a rest day on one of those days but it's not wednesday's rest day or thursday's rest day it's i will get to a point where it's like my body needs a rest day today like I'm just in tune with it and if I'm feeling good I'm going to continue training I love movement I have since I was a tiny tiny baby girl that is me through and through and I think people forget I have been an athlete or been in sport as a swimmer since I could walk. And I almost give it as a disclaimer to say my training volume, I think can be so high because I've trained for 27 years of my life. Like I really feel I've never, I've never stopped training. And now I'm on

socials as this hybrid person. It's almost like, let's's not forget I swam for 18 years of my life competitively like all my life yeah it's it's almost a disclaimer to say not that I'm taking away my hard work like I work so so hard but to let people know I probably look a certain way genetically I came out the womb like a female Hercules I've trained since I was three years old let's not forget yeah no I love that you're touching on that because I think that's so fair because like for me I'm literally hearing you say saying that like I hear you get up to like Sunday and I'm thinking how the bloody hell has she done seven days of that but then it's actually like well no because you've

been working at this this is what you've been doing and like also just kind of going back to what you're saying of like you're just very in tune with your body you're doing you're focusing on you not what everyone else is doing you're focusing on you and how it feels for you and you're very like it seems like you're very present and in tune with your body and yeah if you need it you'll give yourself it like before London Marathon so London was on Sunday that week running I like ran through I didn't really taper off for London because I'd done the speed project two weeks prior and I thought well that was kind of in itself the week before that I was so poorly like two weeks out of London like just so oh my god you know and everything like sinuses throwing up the works the works so I took four rest days and I don't

voice to social media I don't announce my rent I don't need to announce to everyone I'm taking rest days because I'm ill so it's almost I don't share everything that's going on every single second but more so people see that I'm training a lot and then they're like would you not take rest days that you should I'm thinking I do take them I just don't and now I don't need to announce every time I'm having a rest day it's just I just think it's very it's very personal to me and it's just not something that I asked about. Yeah. Okay. Okay, very helpful.

So going back to like obviously these insane achievements that you just continue to get, how do you like navigate kind of constantly one-upping yourself and burnout? I feel like as a high achiever it's a line we tow and I just wonder what your experience is of that burnout is definitely a real thing um I haven't experienced it this year yet which is really surprising I thought I'd be in a real slump after the speed project because I was on such a high I think that's the one thing with doing all these events you're on such a high and then you plummet but I've not really hit the plummet this year yet because they've all been two weeks apart as in there's been no chance to kind of hit the

bottom and it is something that I struggle with a lot is not having things booked in. It's almost a toxic trait of mine because I am such a high achiever in like physical fitness, business, podcasting, like everything. It's always, as humans, we always want more and we always look for the next best thing. and I know it's something that I need to work on like after the 100k which was in 2022 I for 10 weeks after that race lost my identity like I just I was really confused with what I was doing I was like I don't know what's going on I don't know anything about my life I've ruined everything I was so conflicted and I booked a powerlifting competition roguest thing I've ever done I did it did not enjoy it um but I put myself out there and I I gave everything and that was a real example of I well what's next like you need to achieve more Lucy you've run 100k okay what's next it was so I was really mentally struggling a lot physically also my body was a bit

bashed mentally I was like well next almost not giving myself enough time to process or be proud of yourself people really struggle to be proud of themselves because it's awkward and you almost feel am I really egotistical because I'm saying I'm proud of myself and that's something I worked on a lot moving away from that period of time which I really struggled with so when it came about to doing Everest Base Camp or the marathons and the ultras and high rocks I sit with it and I'm like okay well done really really good what's next but not in a way of you need to beat what you don't need to be better it just try something new what else what else could be possible again that curiosity that I spoke about before like I'm curious about these things what else can my body

do what else can we achieve this year not taking away previous achievements but I'm I'm surprised I've not been I mean we're in April jamming February we're in we're only four months in and I have done a lot but I've not experienced burnout yet because I think I'm happy I'm just happy like I think because people do ask a lot like how you're doing all the businesses? How do you do your training? I love life and I'm in a really happy spot. I used to really struggle with anxiety, as in crippling last year, the start of the year, not getting out of bed, just really horrendous. And I look at myself now, I'm thinking I'm probably not burning out as much because there's no pressure on me like I'm just happy I could be I could maybe do more and hustle that you know that real intense hustle culture like wake up at five go to bed at ten I don't do

that and maybe it would push me one step further where I need to be but what's the rush because when I'm 50 or 60 everything I will have worked for me I'll just probably want a greenhouse and a nice cup of coffee a little sit in the garden and just and just chill so I know where I want to be but I'm happy so there's no point pushing it or rushing it or experience burnout every month because then I can't progress I do a lot but I'm at a stage where I'm not pushing it to physical physical burnout yeah so you spoke about quite a lot about like that kind of like feeling those internal sort of like pressures from yourself how have you alleviated yourself from that I feel like a lot of like well everyone I'm sure will understand but like the classic eldest sibling will definitely

relate to that like how have you what was like now you reflect your action like plan and like your route to yeah ridding yourself of that I think pressure is pressure is a privilege and I do enjoy that saying if you feel pressure is a privilege and I do enjoy that saying if you feel pressure there's something to feel pressure for I used to put a lot of pressure myself to be the best and to perform and I thought people would be disappointed in me if I wasn't doing the best I can in absolutely everything and that was really draining like I was struggling with that a lot last year. Like even my first marathon I did, which was Chester,

that was in October. I didn't perform how I wanted to perform. And the only reason I was deep, like deeply saddened by this was because I thought I'd let everyone down. And my sister was like, you just did amazing. You did your debut marathon.

Like you're incredible. There's no pressure. I was like, yeah, but everyone on social media. And she was like, Lucy and that's not a thing like I I think it's awful and not everyone will be able to relate to this unless you do work on social media you put your own pressure on that those followers and those people haven't done that they they'd be proud in any sense. I would put pressure on to say, I need to be the best because they expect it. No, no, no. I expect it of myself for sure. I put myself in a really high regard to do hard things and challenge myself and be this person

that people can look up to. That is my own pressure. And it's not something that needs to be shared to the whole world all the time. I don't need to put it on other people and when you take responsibility for yourself like everything becomes easier like everything is my fault everything is my own fault and when I can accept responsibility I have more control so if I've fucked up on marathons or something with the business or I've done something rather than saying oh it was this person's fault or it was because of this or x y and z and creating this list of lies if the first thing you say is that was my I messed up on that I'm not 100% sure what went wrong can you help me like it almost alleviates pressure to say I don't know what I'm doing in certain senses or whether it is fitness or the gym or owning your space and owning your

own responsibility in whatever aspects of life you're currently working on when you have control it's almost like a like you can breathe a little bit and that's my responsibility if I need help I'm gonna ask people because we don't know everything yeah and like it's so interesting you say that because it's almost like yeah okay control ownership like you're driving or steering the ship but not this kind of blame game or like self sort of like deprecation like yeah i'm you know that negative self-talk not that we're not talking about that yeah we're talking about just like actually just like disassociating them because like negative talk is for sure a real thing and everyone has that whole devil angel on the shoulder And it's something I speak about a lot because I think sometimes

people will look at others online when they have like larger followings or whatever it is and think maybe they don't have that or they don't get demotivated. I swear I'm demotivated most days, but I just, I don't give a fuck like do it anyway you've got to do sometimes you just really need to have a word with yourself and think well I'm not motivated I had to do 15k in the treadmill yesterday because our village flooded and I thought I couldn't think of anything worse right now like being on a treadmill for that amount of time I thought you know what I'm going to listen to an audio book and I'm going to in I'm gonna make it a real thing I hated the whole the whole session I hated it and I was really demotivated but I did it anyway because I'm consistent and there's just stuff that

sometimes you just have to do it and it is really hard but I think that's why my hardness is built up over time because I do more hard things to test myself even when I don't necessarily want to because I know mine's very much in a physical sense for what I do but then this translates into business so when there's mad things that are happening like we've just launched the 2.0 version of my coach app I've never been so stressed in my life it was so stressful but I think I coped better this time because I'm always like it's okay to do hard things or you know if people are feeling okay I'm just going to word this one correctly if you're having a really sad day everyone everyone has sad days for sure. Like mad moments of,

or depression or mental health and things like that. And I used to have this with when I had cord generalized anxiety disorder and I'm a lot out the other end now, but I used to say, I am this crippled, anxious person. Like I used to identify solely as this person so when I felt happy I didn't feel like I could feel happy because actually Lucy you're supposed to be this sad down anxious anxious girl you can't be happy in this last year and like the whole of 2023 I really worked on oh there's a feeling of anxiety that's popped up here oh there's a feeling of sadness it's a feeling and it's an it's an emotion that I'm feeling I am not Lucy Davis fit I am sad like I like my being my identity isn't I am sad or I am

anxious I am the anxious girl it's whoa there's this it could be a day it could last a week it could last longer but I'm having these feelings of feeling sad and it's almost an out-of-body experience of you're looking in on yourself that okay we're feeling sad I am not sad it's having a real disassociation from those two things and it helped me so much come away from this anxious girl who I just felt trapped like if I was happy I was like I can't be happy because like I'm always anxious and I was it would make me feel more stressed about the situation and whatever was I used to get anxious about everything. But now, if the feeling creeps up, I'm like, oh, I'm not in the mood for this anxious feeling today.

Like, piss off. And I almost speak to it as if it's a person. You can do it when the feelings of sadness come about. I'm not in the mood. I'm not in the mood. I'll sit with you for a little bit, this feeling that I'm having, but you're not going to ruin my whole day today. And we're going to come out the other side.

And it's a really hard thing to do. And I'm saying this because I've worked and it's like the past year and I still work on it now but I think sometimes people look at me and think she's motivated every day or she's always happy it's like I think it's just because I'm working on myself like all the time yeah well it's that thing I love when people talk about like emotions because they do feel they do feel so much like you are them right for sure but it's definitely I've heard before even from like my own therapist or whatever like Sid you're not your emotions it's like a river and you're just watching them flow by and like emotions and feelings and thoughts they just flow and like they have expiry you know like they're not gonna be here the whole time yeah i like that so it's like she just told me that one

yeah but like it's like it will part you know for me i've been really crying a lot recently yeah and i'm like i just said to her like i was just being so hard on myself I was saying I feel like I'm crying all the time and it's just this endless supply and it's not ending and she said just let it let it yeah it's not gonna it's not forever yeah it's gonna you're gonna let it flow through you and it's gonna be done and it's gonna you know be resolved so yeah yeah isn't it a weird thing You think when you're in it, you categorically think it's forever. Like I honestly thought, and I did share it quite a lot on socials that I had anxiety and it was, it was one of my personality traits and, but I, I knew I couldn't live like that. And at the time I was like, I am going to be like this

forever. This is me done and dusted forever. and it would stop me from doing work things or big events or whatever I would do because my social anxiety would be so intense but I had to work on that I had to go to those events I had to make myself super uncomfortable and I think maybe that's where the love of doing these really hard things came about because every situation I've been in to do these things these challenges they're uncomfortable like aerospace camp was incredible but it was uncomfortable for two weeks like it was a real it was glorious it's life changing oh my god it was whole holistic but it was also really hard all the marathons although they're so difficult but it's almost testing not even just my physical body which I love doing I love I can't wait to get

to the point where I literally do crumble in a race and I can't continue up like that was the point but mentally I'm just so switched on I'm just so curious about how I'm feeling or can I come over this yeah well it's like you're like voluntarily putting yourself in position like situations that you don't really want to be in and so in doing so you're kind of like working that muscle and that like trust muscle of just doing things that like you don't want to do so then when you do actually approach something in life that's hard or you know something that yeah you don't want to do it just feels that little bit easier it's like okay I got this I've got these transferable skills what so okay going back to like with that whole like motivation thing so for you is it just like hey you have that like

that voice in your head that will just tell you like on a day that you don't want to train like no non-negotiable we're doing it as long as you know I really don't need to take like a rest day I'm feeling up to it is that just like you'll get yourself to that place where you're on that treadmill doing those runs you don't want to do or yeah you pretty much nailed it because I I do a lot of my own programming and training I do a lot of workouts from the app, like here, there and everywhere. But so yeah, unless I'm ill or I know I need a rest day or whatever it is, I will use just go for a walk. If I'm ill, I'll be in bed or whatever it is. I categorically know I will feel better afterwards. And it's almost the saying of, we use it with my coach a lot, do it for tomorrow. I tell myself, if I'm not motivated to do a run or a session or a high rocks thing or whatever it

is, do it for tomorrow because you are literally Lucy. You're going to kick yourself if you don't. There's no reason why you're not. You're just a bit demotivated. So is everyone else. Cool. Like, poor you. Like, come on. Like, I really do get in my head about it I'm like come on and even if the session isn't great and sometimes they're not when I am feeling those real also this isn't to say I am motivated a lot of the time as well um to move forward and do different things and whatever but there are multiple days where I'm just like this is just not it today I will do it anyway a lot of the time I do feel better after I might not be fully satisfied with the session I think sometimes when your head's not in it and you're going through the motions a little bit

and you really really can't snap out of it because sometimes you actually can't like you will still go to the gym and then you're finished and be like I don't even remember what I just did I can't like you will still go to the gym and then you're finishing be like I don't even remember what I just did I can't remember the session I can't remember the run I can't remember anything because you've gone through the motions and even sometimes I think just going and doing it and forming that habit of the doing is fine sometimes like I'm not here to say every session will be 10 out of 10 felt incredible it's just it's just not the way it works but there is a voice in my head that would be saying well you've got too much to do tomorrow you need you kind of need to do this so you've no choice yeah just get in and do

it like I will move my sessions around sometimes depending on how I'm feeling like if it's just general like you know there's like you just feel a bit of a lull and I had a really hard session I'll just I'll just drop the volume a little bit or mix things around or change the rep ranges or I'll focus more on form or I'll work on my eggs there's always something that I can do differently in a session to tailor it to the feelings of it so that's if it's a really really hard fucking hierarchical session a really hard run I might do an aerobic run or I might pull it back because I am listening to myself and knowing I can't put 100% in I'll put 100% in tomorrow's the session yeah so just switch the intensity a little bit not not the training but I will sometimes just change the intensities I feel like you kind of touched on it when you're talking about social media but like obviously you've been in the social media space for a while

and I feel like a reoccurring theme that I keep seeing kind of pop up on your socials is like challenging this like kind of belief or this narrative or this voice of like women and muscles and the two can't coexist or it makes you manly or whatever could you just talk about that or yeah yeah I mean that is that is my whole it always has been my thing yeah and that's actually something I'm really proud of with I guess my social media journey is I think I've always been very authentic and true to myself in terms of I wanted to be that role model for people with a very no bullshit approach so what you see is what you get I'm going to tell exactly exactly what I'm thinking and this thing of empowering women to be strong to be muscular

obviously in the past two years two or three years it's tailored into running and muscle and that's like a different side to it but I growing up in sport have always been very athletic I've looked different to everyone in high school to everyone in college to everyone in my class and I was always it was always a thing that people would make comments or jokes or I remember one thing I don't think I've ever shared this story at college and bear in mind I was still like a swimmer at this point again very athletic very muscly whatever you want to call it and they had this it was an app. It's definitely banned now because it was awful.

It was almost like Tattle. You know that online horrible, sorry, mad, that's even a thing. It was like that in an app. So someone else that's got approved on the app store and you could just comment and it was in your local area. So at college. I know exactly what you're talking about. I can't remember what

it was called yeah something like that yeah yeah and you could just you could just post anonymous comments in your area I remember that in your area yeah it went around colleges at the time I obviously didn't have the app my friend showed me and they're like oh someone's just put d-ball davis which I didn't know what d-ball was so i googled it it's a steroid and i just thought i'm like a 19 20 year old girl at college i've just quit swimming so i'm really confused i'm now going to go into the gym space and i don't want to feel how that comment made me feel and it was almost a stem of coming out of an eating disorder quitting swimming I want to have muscle it's so sexy having muscle as a woman is so sexy and it's so attractive I didn't feel nice obviously when I had an eating disorder and I was more underweight I don't like using the word skinny I think it's triggering I was more in a way I wasn't happy

I started the gym and I'm thinking I've wow like this this has helped my confidence it's helping how I feel the comments got worse obviously because I grew more muscle I got more muscly as a woman those comments a lot of the time that come from other people it's quite an insecure place for them they're not feeling 100% in themselves I feel sorry for them for sure I think that's a really quite a sad way to live your life by commenting on other people's bodies in general women who have muscle who want to strength train who want to go in the gym you're prolonging your life I'm 27 you best believe I'm living till over 100 that is a goal my mum wants to live till she's 111 I said mum you can't outlive me I was like I need to live over 100 and it's this whole thing of if I can have strong muscles if I can

obviously run now if I can look after my joints oh my heart health my lung health you only have one life and if the gym is going to prolong my health and my life like you only have one life I sit with that thought most days you have one fucking life and I will do everything i can to have it fulfilled as humanly possible there are days when i'm sad as we spoke about before or shit's going wrong or the app's fucking up or training or i'm injured but i'm gonna do everything i can to be a strong muscly woman to to prolong it in every single sense because i want to be here for as long as possible. I think it's great. I'm having a great time. I know, but it is. It's true.

And I look at these girls who say, oh, but I'm scared because people are going to make these comments about me. Fucking hell, go and outlift them then. They need to remember it comes from people who are more insecure. And if you're in an insecure place and you want to build confidence,

the gym is one of the best things that I did it's one of the best things I did in my life and I just say to people we've only got one life and you're really gonna listen to those people well I you know what like it's literally like firing away in my head it's like that bloody Barbie monologue like damn you really can't do anything right yeah you you're you're not like muscly enough or like slim enough oh you're too muscly it's like okay so when am I gonna win yeah where's your happy medium yeah so like what's how am I gonna appease you and like your taste and like whatever and I just think it's so wild that like for you even this has like been a journey that you've had to go on

of like building up that sort of like resilience and kind of like not listening to those things because like I think so many of us listening are like damn what I would give to look and perform and be able to move my body like Lucy and it's like but it's like and so it's just like oh damn okay you're never gonna win everyone has these thought processes i like after high rocks in january i actually really struggled a lot i mean i get a lot of comments on my body a lot because of how much it fluctuates like i will lose weight before ultras i try my best God keeps my weight on. I still maintain muscle,

but I kind of get a little bit more petite. So I had an ultra in Jan after Everest base camp. I lost a lot of weight as you do because you're out hiking for three weeks in Nepal with mad food. I got back, did the ultra and I just ate so much from like in January after base camp and I put on like six kilos kind of back to where I should be I look big at high rocks like I think people need to remember with

high rocks you're running and you're lifting I lift and I get a pump like whatever it is the sleds the ergs so when I was running around high rocks I did look swole I will not lie I looked back and I thought I fucking look great there I love that video I had a lot of comments after that she's on steroids she's on gear she's this she's that and the only reason they got to me and the reason I'm sharing this is because it does get to us guys like we're all human these comments still get to us um the reason that those got to me is because they were trying to detract from my performance and in a way of oh she can't she can't have done this without steroids or gear or why does she look so big she looks so manly she's so built the only reason they got to me is because I work so hard to not let them get to me and inspire

other people and what I try and do with quite a lot of my my content with those things if someone makes that comment I kind of make a video out of it and be like well I'm not on steroids I'd look hell of a lot different if I was um but just to put it out there like I need to I need to do this myself and share the world of these comments and this is why as girls we all need to come together to not feel this way and it's just sometimes how I cope usually I'm fine the odd comment it really gets to me and it's it's just how you're feeling on on that day like I had a really funny funny one after London Marathon like I did surprisingly well at London it was mad um I almost shocked myself when I finished and I got a comment on um on TikTok rough rough uh comment

platform a guy was just like you do realize wearing a carbon-plated shoe means that your time doesn't count and I thought so a carbon-plated shoe is like Alpha Flies or Sockneys or Adidas Pros so all the world records are in Alpha Flies like they're all and I just kind of like laughed with this comment and thought no no I was like they're not a banned shoe I was like the Sockneys I was wearing, they're carbon plated. Everyone in London Marathon had a carbon plated shoe. He was like, no, your time doesn't count. And I was just like, oh, you're really trying to take this away from me by saying I ran in an illegal shoe.

I was like, you're really going that far. But that was a comment where I was like, that's funny. I'm going to do a video on that because that's funny. And you put yourself in there. You put yourself out there and I'm going to put. What did you make as your response? I don't think I saw that one. I just replied with the whole video and I was like laughing on it. I was like, I said, you're trying to detract from people's hard work.

I was like, go strip all the world record holders of their world records because they're all in a carbon plated shoe. For sure. There are actually rules in terms of like the depth I think it's 40 millimeters which is what an alpha fly is coincidentally it's 40 and I was just laughing about it in the video I just said I was like what a weird comment I was like you kind of made my day because I thought you've really gone out of your way to put me down after my pb the only thing you could do because you couldn't do the steroid comment for this you couldn't do that for london marathon could you so you've gone oh i'll attack a footwear illegal you're wearing an illegal shoe that's why you got the time

it was just a bit mad it's so like it actually it kind of makes you lose faith in like really human reality like you it's okay it like honestly I look at what you do and I am completely awestruck right I sit there and I think to myself how the fuck does she do that but I'm not gonna go like that doesn't mean it's not possible right it's like yeah it's so and I just I feel what hurts the most is that it's I would I would bet you I mean I don't know about for yourself but certainly with like any comments I've had in the past it's always from men it's always men like it's always men I think I've got quite a nice female support I mean the odd woman for sure has said stuff and I'm thinking that's just jealousy there's a there's an envy everyone has jealousy as part of their like I get jealous about things

for sure like a lot of things it's when jealousy changes to envy is when that becomes a really poor trait I think that's when women attack other women, when the envy comes through and they just can't hold on. It's always guys making mad, rude, misogynistic comments. And it's like, I don't get why you're doing that because we should be supporting each other always. It doesn't make any sense to me I think that's the thing I really struggle with social media because I just feel like let me just do me yeah like I'm

not intruding on on you or whatever you're doing let me just be me if you don't like it keep on scrolling just unfollow I tell people openly to unfollow me I also unfollow a lot of people, which I don't usually speak about often, or I mute people. Yeah, guilty. With social media, what people need to remember, you go through different stages of personal growth. And you change and you evolve all the time. You might have followed people a year ago whose content you can't absorb anymore which is so fine you can literally just unfollow people I do like every month I might just go through and check like I or like my feed and it's all in tune with how I'm feeling at the moment

sometimes there's things that are too overwhelming not even that people piss me off I think people are wonderful there's like some wonderful people that I've had to mute recently because I was like I don't know where it is I just can't absorb the content at the moment I don't like seeing it it's just it's not making me feel great and then I might go back and unmute them when I'm feeling a bit better or there's certain people who I will unfollow because I'm thinking well there was probably a time and a place for that and at the moment it's not that and I say this to everyone I'm like if you can't absorb my content right now please please unfollow me or mute me or maybe don't block me like I really had to do something rude to be blocked um but Instagram are clever where you can just mute people's accounts and it means

you don't their stories don't pop up or their feed posts don't pop up and you're not doing anything bad by that it's just you're you're just putting yourself first on social media because it's a very wild and savage place sometimes if you can't absorb it like I used to follow a lot of when I was going through my eating disorder loads of models really skinny models catwalk at the time I was very fixated on that I don't think I follow a single one anymore maybe Kendall Jenner because she's a little bit different she's cool we love her um and I just unfollowed hundreds of people or mute and it's you go through stages and it's just how we evolve as humans if you're not i don't like if you're not growing you're not evolving and it's okay it's okay to change you're supposed to it's

almost like it reminds me what you're saying about like taking ownership as well and being aware of like how things are gonna think these things that you don't really think about are gonna sort of get in their will and like as much as we all talk about how we'd like to consume less social media we're all guilty of doing a little mindless scroll and so it's like okay let me just have some control over what I'm actually seeing on a daily basis it's everywhere I still think social media is so untapped like it's still new and that is that is the scariest thing it's almost I hope anyway because I worry for when I have children I do worry about I think about it often in terms of well when when do they have social media because I feel like everyone in the class is going to have

it so I don't want them to not have it to be bullied and picked on for not having it but where's the level of what they can have I think I will be quite strict on it because we work on it and then I'm hoping because it's our generation who speak about this a lot like millennials saying we don't want our kids to be attacked on social media or see things that they don't want to see so by the time this is my thought process by the time we have kids who are old enough because we're the parents it might have done a 360 maybe a little bit I would hope so I would hope so because even just like living life through this like metric system of likes and comments and shares I can say as a creator myself it actually screws with your head like I'm very new to all of this so like I'm definitely in the like phase of really having to like work on that and actually see beyond

that but like even just for your everyday like you know joe blogs or like someone who's at school you know oh I didn't get like 16 likes or whatever like and then suddenly you're like reflecting that back onto yourself it's like yeah your self-worth is not based off a like like it's so much more and it's actually really difficult and everyone goes through it and as you said you don't have to be a creator to feel that because you could put something up that you love and then no one's liking it you might think oh no one else loves it the reason you have posted that post or created that piece of content as a creator you like the post you like the messaging you think it's going to help people and you put it out there if it does

not perform how you think it's going to perform who gives a fuck because you you enjoyed making that piece of content or or whatever picture even if you're not a creator and you enjoyed sharing it it doesn't necessarily matter to an extent for content creators for sure for business but you've still got to understand out of seven days a week there might be or even a 14 day block or a month there might be two posts that slap and go viral and do really well or it might be one or that month it might be or even a 14 day block or a month there might be two posts that slap and go viral and do really well or it might be one or that month it might be none and you've just had a pretty average it's like it's a job it's business things are average things go do really well things

excel and it's definitely a learning curve and detaching from like I only learned that like a year ago or a couple of years ago I I really thought I'm I am facing my happiness and self-worth off a like on Instagram we need to nip this in the bud because that is not like I literally post and I put my phone down I don't go back on socials once I post like I'm just I'm just off it like I I just get off it like I don't I I don't do that anymore I used to just like like refresh refresh how's it doing how's it doing watch pot never boils let it be if it does well it does well if it doesn't it doesn't move on and create a new piece of content learn from that piece of content like did you actually help people was it a little bit egotistical like what are people getting out of it like have a

little analysis of it if it's your job and like detach yourself from it being i think the thing that like worries me like about social media is like this sensationalism of everything so it's like if you're even down to like consuming like news articles or whatever it's all about just like what's that most like clickbait thing you know what I mean and so it just like moves into this like weird clickbait is fun yeah I've never I've never done clickbait with my body I feel like I could oh yeah right what do you mean like as an example I will never like share people's names um but people know who do clickbait things where YouTube thumbnails are really big one for it like six pack in six days i know and it's thing it's it's like wait actually six pack since i was six years old so 12 years um it's how i look genetically i work really hard like i could probably make a lot of

money just off like my body and what it looks like yes i literally don't i'm so detached from that like aesthetic i'm very like performance health and aesthetic as a trio of things that come together i think everyone should look at like performance health and aesthetic as a whole not just one um i could make probably a lot of money from a six pack something but I don't really train abs so I would be lying to my audience about that to make some quick money and a lot of creators do it and I'm thinking do better like you haven't you have an opportunity to share knowledge and to help people so why are you doing a love handle workout why are you doing six pack in six days why are you doing target your inner thighs because you you know you know what

you're doing is incorrect and that's why the only thing I'm really proud of the past six years I've been on socials I've been very transparent very no bullshit from the start I probably would be a lot further ahead than I am now if I did do that but it's just I just think it's bad behavior it's just not for me yeah because it's like I think this is something I kind of I was actually just chatting to a girl at the gym about it she was like god I didn't even realize like how much like sort of thought goes into like who you choose to work with or whatever whatever and it's like yeah because you actually have a if you're doing it right and if you're doing it in a responsible way you do have a responsibility huge responsibility

like people you know people will hold on to what you say they are impressionable the thing I always say because I do genuinely believe it's so true is like the audience don't realize how smart they are and so it's like if they can really see that you're someone that they can go to that will always just be super transparent and like like you say is a like no bullshit kind of person then I think like in the long run it will do you favors although like the quick like short thing it's hard hard. Yeah. It is hard. 30 days to a six pack from like burn your belly fat. Like, you know what I mean? We even had a thing with like Gym Girls Zoccerim,

which for anyone that doesn't know, it started out as a Facebook page and still is. But we really had to like bring in a team of mods and like really work on like, okay, even on this feed, it's almost like a sort of like notice board feed all the girls are like posting stuff like we need to flag and make sure we're not posting stuff that's talking about like spot reduction or like how can i get rid of my cellulite or these sort of things because actually we have a responsibility on there and like even people just having discussions about

it just isn't good enough because you're just like fueling proud of you for doing that oh yeah that's really good it's been really hard yeah people don't like it as well oh no i mean why is this being rejected we we we block people from the my coach community group because we also have a i love a facebook group i think it's actually a great way to bring together a community yeah um they know the rules when they enter the group we make them really clear if you're promoting anything or if it's like toxic fitness it's not you don't even you get blocked like immediately or your comments deleted or you'll get a warning if you go you'll block from the group like it's just you have to have these things that are really set in place because if you believe in that and as we said it probably is like a slower

it is a slower journey like I do think I would be way further I'm not that I'm not far ahead I'm very content but I think I would be much more further ahead than I am now whether in like businesses or fitness if I if I did do those things but it's you I think it is a long-term game social media you've got you've got to stay true to yourself yeah well because we're like with the whole community thing it's almost like you actually have to see and I think this is the transition we had where it's like I'm sorry if you don't like it and I'm sorry if your post hasn't been approved or you've been removed from the group but we're actually safeguarding like yeah we're actually making sure that the wider masses are like protected especially like with impressionable like young women women like who are all on social media by 12 nowadays yeah i feel like i'm still

and i'm sure you agree like massively like unlearning things that I even picked up pre social media just through like mainstream media. And so like I think it's really important to actually take the job of what we do seriously. I'm so happy that you do that. it's nice to also speak to someone who has the same thought process as it and just doesn't see social media as a way to make mad money like we're not naive to the fact that of course you can make a lot of money on social media and it's just having these conversations which are really important to say well I'm not doing that collab or working with that brand because of this message or the product doesn't sit or yeah it could be a lot of money and people do need to realize that but you will know who those true people are on socials because they they approach things in a slightly different

way absolutely love that um okay I have a question it's like a little bit rogue but I'm just like kind of a question kind of just like curious because I feel like I've not really seen you well I certainly haven't seen you touch on it um just like it's kind of a quick like little sweet one um what's like your thoughts and feelings on like training with people because I don't know i feel like i haven't really seen you like speak about it obviously you do like team sports but you know i think a lot of people get different things out of the gym for me i am the natter i will go to a gym i'm like on the quest right now quest right now to like find some new gym friends because for me it's such a social fix yeah for other people they're like hell no I'm going to a gym where I

can put my headphones in and I can lock in and I can I would just love to know like what's your yeah I've actually never really been asked it um okay so I okay I'm going to address this in three different categories because I'm an organized being if I'm going to the gym to do a gym workout headphones in don't talk to me like I'm doing a gym workout and I just I'm in the zone um exceptions are we've got a group of us who like the working girlies and there's like nine of us we all go to hybrid together I can train with one of them to do a gym session for sure or my sister we can do a really We've got a group of us who are like the working girlies. And there's like nine of us. We all go to hybrid together. I can train with one of them to do a gym session for sure. Or my sister.

We can do a really good gym session together. Because if I'm, I think what people, the disclaimer, I do two really specific bodybuilding strength sessions now. The others are like running and high rocks. Those two sessions you best believe are going to be building me, my bum, or keeping my muscle. So I actually do need a really good session and my time is a lot more limited now because the business is so I need to go in a freaking hard-ass session and I enjoy that I I it's like an escape almost from my really busy life I put my headphones in I'm like oh zen not that I don't

speak to people in the gym by the way I do like for sure I could be stood there for like half an hour talking to someone um but I do enjoy just like zoning in following the workout for those gym more bro bodybuilding vibe vibes high rocks need to be with people that's why I go to wham and hybrid um so why go to hybrids do wham and the high rock sessions this morning i did a high rock session with meg high rocks is hard so training with people i think is important and there's a really good group of us who all do it together or i'll train with ben for those ones as well like i really enjoy doing harder high rock sessions with him running i mostly run by myself like basically all the time the odd occasion I run with Ben but we've had really different goals at the moment I've been doing ultras and marathons and high rocks and he's just been doing high rocks so his training is just different for the

runs whereas mine are quite different we also don't live near anyone realistically in in Chester where we are there's no one to run with the odd occasion I'll run with Meg um or Steph if Steph and Grant are down I'll always run with Steph I enjoy running on my own um I do love running with people as well it's just there's not a lot of people around and my training for the runs is quite specific like there's paces that I need to be hitting and sometimes there's not people who will want to do that with me because sometimes the sessions are fucking awful sometimes the running sessions um so if I can train with people it's going to like be really great and a great vibe and high rocks in particular for sure big group of us running in

gym a bit of a lone bird lone soul i also don't run in headphones just me you are fighting i really am it's just me my thoughts for like yeah i've done a 60k with no headphones. And it was glorious. Do you, yeah, I wonder if you really like, you work some stuff out in your head. I, yeah, I have a lot of my best ideas when I'm running. So I always have my phone on me. I'll always run my phone, well, for also safety. And I speak into my notes on Siri.

I can't tell you how much, like some of my best ideas happen when I'm running um occasionally if it's like yeah maybe like 30k and I feel it's an aerobic run it's a gorgeous day I'll pop an audiobook in and I feel like I'm kind of like learning or it's a nice book or I can just listen or maybe a podcast occasionally but usually an audiobook that I can just really find myself in but yeah I'm a no headphones runner I just pound pavements I just listen to my feet on the ground yeah you are literally stomping I am stomping I'm a loud runner as well I know I've noticed this you can hear me a mile off yeah yeah I that's the thing i like most notice in your stories i'm there examining on my phone i'm like wow what's like the perfect ideal route for you like because like the reason i'm asking is

because i see everyone in manchester doing these city runs and i freaking hate them they're so like duck dive stop stop and i feel like the same distance literally running along the canal is like so vastly different. Yeah. I have two, one, two, three. So from my house, there's three or four different routes that I can always take. And all of these routes will go up to like 60, 70k. So they're routes that I know I can do at all costs. My favorite is the canal.

I'm just, it's just nice. It's just glorious. I'm next to water. I think that's what Meg likes as well. Meg loves it, yeah. You're just very, like even like when I was in Manchester, I would do Sulphur Quays because I didn't want to run

into the city centre as much like I preferred going down to the quays and over the bridges and the runs were a bit longer so I needed more space I guess or hitting a pace or whatever um but yeah I don't I don't actually ever run into Chester city centre and I could but I'm like it's just I have the option to not from where we live or I never also, I don't, I don't usually get in my car and drive somewhere to run. I'll always just run from home because I like starting and ending at the house. Yeah. I feel, I do feel quite lucky though saying that the fact that I do get to run on a canal and feel safe or I run by myself and I, I just don't feel scared where I live. I did used to feel a little bit hit and miss when I ran in Manchester.

When I'm in London, I will not run at night. Yeah, that's... Those sort of things. And this is from someone who is also like a runner. And it's different. So I feel very almost like privileged that I... When I leave my house for a run, I don't think about safety. I think it's because of where I live.

And that is, I think in this day and age, it's quite lucky. Yeah, definitely. I feel like there's this assumption like, well, certainly on my behalf, so I'm sure the girlies will also agree with me, that like, when we see you posting all of this kind of stuff,

when you're doing like these insane workouts or these very long sort of like endurance adventures um that you're like enjoying every second of it what's your relationship like with pain and like And like, yeah. I think pain's really interesting. I, the more physical pain you put yourself through, it doesn't necessarily get easier. You get, you just get more curious about it because your body becomes more adapted to doing these things.

I force, there's so many runs that are so hard or training sessions that are so hard and painful and I'm stopping and I've like cried on runs before I've been like oh my god I feel well rough like it just all feels off so it's not that they don't happen and I will I will share it if shit like that happens I will for sure like tell people yeah I think I've seen you say about it um but I'm also really careful about how how I approach the conversation because it's always it's not with running it's not I don't say people are fast or slow you're just you're at your pace it's so individual because a lot of people say to me like oh you're fastest and your slowest pace is my fastest and I'm like cool we're gonna

tell Kipchoge that I can't even hit one of his kate like do not associate with the people who are doing because it really like detracts from what you're doing and my pain threshold I think is quite high because I pushed through it the speed, I was in pain from the second leg in. I just had this mad, horrendous, you've got your bicep femoris muscles here under your hamstrings. I can't explain the pain I was in at the start of the speed project. Bear in mind, we're like 20 miles into a 340 mile race. And I kept saying to Ben was like it's like I'm really concerned I was like I'm not gonna be able to finish like my legs are fucked and it was it was a big battle the whole 35 hours of you're just gonna have to push through it like you've literally no choice there are times in ones

like Chester Marathon great example I bonked so I hit the pain wall at 27 K. So I walked and cried and hobbled and stuttered the whole rest of that marathon. So the whole 15 K after I bonked at 27, walking, crying, weeing, the whole works awful. So that pain was unbearable and I physically couldn't run I really fucked up on my nutrition um so the pain is for sure there the more you do the better you deal with it and you can actually understand okay so is this is this a pain where I'm physically gonna have to stop is it an injury am I injured oh no I'm not injured my legs just well heavy today okay so your legs are heavy so you're gonna you're gonna have to push harder and it's just understanding how you're

feeling in different in different areas it's like meg bless her after high rocks in manchester she ends up in hospital because she was so so keeled over like she gave herself lactic acid poisoning and she was dehydrated are you serious after high rocks manchester yeah i didn't even know that yeah well we we we didn't know it was the thing and so she pushed herself obviously to a real level and that was like whoa we're at capacity there meg like whoa we're in a andE after the race. And it's understanding what your body can and can't cope with, which is why I always say to people, don't compare to my training.

Don't compare to what I'm doing because maybe my pain threshold is better or I've just done more hard things. So now I'm mentally stronger to push through. It's not that I don't find these things hard. I really, really do. They're really difficult things and they're very painful

for a lot of the things that I'm doing, but I'm learning from the pain. Like, can I push through? Oh, is this a point where I actually need to stop? Do I need to eat more? Am I feeling like this because I've not eaten enough? Or it's just kind of understanding how you are as a person.

I think mentally as well, I'm probably a little bit tapped in some way to keep doing these things. Like it's just kind of understanding how you are as a person I think mentally as well and probably a little bit tapped in some way to keep doing these things like it's it's gotta be a bit of a level or something yeah okay perhaps but also I do feel like this whole like because I really don't like when people okay this is going on a bit of a tangent but like hold tight because I'm coming back round but like you know that whole thing where everyone's like oh it's like everyone's jumping on the same bandwagon first of all I don't like that I think that's like not cool yeah clearly everyone's doing it for a reason like let them just do that do what they want to do but also I wonder because there is this real sort of trend right now in people doing like performance sports and I wonder if it's just because like we

live a life where like if you're not really doing stuff like that you're not really a lot of people I feel like just aren't pushing themselves in the way maybe we've evolved to the past thousands of years so like that sort of like hunger and that kind of curiosity to just like really tap into and explore like what are my limits it's like something that's just yeah innately in us it's I think the percentage of people who do marathons has increased massively London Marathon was the busiest marathon that they have ever done 55,000000 people and you best believe it was busy on that run. Like it was a busy, even I thought, I know London's busy, but this is madness.

Like I was weaving people. And I think it is so fantastic and wonderful. I hate it when people do gatekeep things. They're like, oh, loads of people doing marathons. Sorry, loads of, change the tone of voice. Lo loads of people doing marathons sorry loads of we'll change the tone of voice loads of people doing marathons like how amazing is that that somebody out there has signed up to a marathon and wants to test themselves yeah great because we're in this culture at the moment of just like oh i can't be bothered doing anything or like this and that and

no responsibility if somebody's signing up to a marathon or high rocks or testing themselves and they're a complete beginner don't be mean to that person who wants to do that and wants to achieve it don't take the piss out their time let them do it because you're not doing it like just let them do it and I'm yeah I think it's this whole thing of I think as you said there's not there's there's it's hard to test ourselves nowadays and people can do it through sport and you don't have to be the elite of the elite but sport is a way that people can test their physical body and their mindset as well so yeah doing a marathon or a half or a 10k or a high rock sort of this or that or doing something they've never done before powerlifting competition great let them do it let them enjoy it they don't have to be the number one they're not doing it to

win they're doing it to do it for them themselves I think that's really nice yeah absolutely well and also like the fact that like it's not just about the race it's like everything that goes into it like I heard loads of people saying recently obviously because I'm not at all from like the marathon world but saying like I love how everyone's saying like race day is like the celebration that's like yeah what did they say they say that right yeah you're celebrating everything yeah all that journey. Like all that work you've put in. Like you've done the hard work. Yeah.

That's harder than the marathon. Unless you bonk. That's a really rough place to be. Yeah. But the training is harder because it's like a set amount of weeks and you're doing multiple things and it's, yeah, it's crazy. Actually, the only thing that's not true for was the speed project. The speed project was

harder than the training for sure yeah like how can you talk about that we just we didn't sleep 35 hours it was dark why because it's literally a it's like it's a race yeah so we started in LA there's six of us in a team and we're switching out every three miles and then it dropped to two miles when we went into the desert because running on sand. And then it switched to a mile. So there was no time to sleep. It's just, okay, you get into the RV or the Jeep. You kind of like put your feet up, eat a bit of food.

In the Jeep, you just sat there until the next time you're running. We just couldn't sleep. And we were very off road. Like it was very rogue um yeah not sleeping for 35 hours and more probably 40 hours by the time we had food and got to the hotel that is the hardest thing for sure and then still being able to run really well and really fast and be able to perform you can't train for that like you're not going to sleep deprive yourself in a training block that was just something that we all just had to do because i remember asking um ross edgley because he does these like insane swims and he like there's a lot

of sleep deprivation i was about to say deprecation um deprivation there's a lot of um sleep deprivation in those and i just say to him how do you prepare for that and he's like you don't yeah you just have to just have to cope with it yeah like I've never I don't even think I've ever done an all-nighter in my life even from like my uni days maybe once oh my god maybe once in my life yeah so being awake and running and performing and just being like cognitively there we I don't know just I tested it when I was there how how was your like yeah cognition were you really did you start it was that enough that you started seeing things I know so I didn't hallucinate yeah um but I was very just mentally not in tune with my body and what was going on like the worst thing happened as

well I did share this on Instagram and I'll share it on the podcast so I this will have a point I've been on contraception for like four years and I came off last August the form of contraception I had meant that I didn't have a period really like it wasn't you kind of had symptoms but it wasn't like flowing so before the speed project I'm still waiting for this period to happen thinking you know it can take up to a year I'm not rushing it um and Nick's wife was like do don't need anything do you need time I was like no I don't need tampons I'm not going to come on for ages I'm fine we're not going on for five years. Don't you worry about me. Middle of the night, first night, probably been up for like 16 hours, pitch black in these Jeeps off-road, the worst part of the speed project, really rocky.

I thought I'd wet myself. And I was like, guys, I've wet myself. So getting out, it's really dark. We didn't have anything on us. We eventually, 6 a.m., we start seeing the cars after being up all night i was like awful i go into the rv and there's just blood and i was like what the fuck is that i was like and i was i was i was frantic because like no sleep enough like maybe i don't know since 4 a.m the day before and it was like six o'clock the next morning i was frantic so this

was a moment of my cognitive function just fell on its ass and ben was like calm down calm down i was like i can't i can't calm down i've caught my period i need a tampon like it was it was so oh okay so like i thought you were saying that you literally thought like something like sinister had happened no i knew it i knew it was period but but I was so shocked. First one I've had in five years. So it wasn't just a little bit. It was... Make it up for lost time. Mother Nature's here.

And I was like, oh my God. So I literally jumped in this RV, changed my shorts. One of the girls had a tampon. Forgot how to put that in. Shoved it in. And then we were off again for the next 10 hours running through Nevada desert with this tampon lodged in me and I thought I am so uncomfortable so that threw me off completely because mentally I was really emotional really happy that I came on yeah really happy buzzing

so emotional like the whole thing I was like really bad timing really bad timing awful so that threw me off after the lack of sleep it was just like another thing that I had to deal with that no one else in the team was dealing with because one it's four guys and just one other girl and I was like I need to deal with this like no one else can so I kind of nipped it in really quick within five minutes I was back I was like whoa let's not have a bitch fit this is it's happened there's nothing you can do shove your tampon in and get run in that desert so that was there that was rough how do you find being in like these spaces where it's like quite male dominated I have the most supportive people around me I am surrounded by the most supportive men

in the best way possible the ones who are close to me so all the ones at hybrid who train there my husband is the best example he's the most supportive the TSP team Nick Baird Joey Mitch like Nick is my biggest inspiration from like a business and performance and hybrid perspective he always has been so I felt honored he had asked me to be a part of it and he was so sound such a nice guy I'm not surrounded by bad men bad guys and so I do find it hard when women tarnish guys all with the same brush because then they're not it's it's the it's the odd few person who really sticks out who unfortunately gives a bad name to men the the guys catcalling us on runs on the

street well I wouldn't be friends with those people like I'm not I'm surrounded by really supportive amazing people people who came to watch me the marathon loads of them like my guy friends and it's I that's I'm yeah I'm just not if anyone was was did say something about it like you wouldn't be in my circle yeah you wouldn't be a part of that I I totally agree with you that there is like it's not like a male it's not that's such a male thing it's like no that's a bad person thing or like that's like not a very nice person thing it's not like oh I do I do agree with you there about like the whole like male female thing yeah it's the odd it's the odd people who for sure give men a really really bad name like I'm not even denying that there will be a lot of girls who also give women a really really bad

name and a really bad rep but you just can't tarnish everyone with the same thing like I love it when men and women work together like I'm so pro women and I'm so pro men and if we all work together like Ben does so much stuff solely for like pro men and men's mental health and looking after men and he will get comments from women being like but you're not doing it for for women he's like no one's doing it for men so i am and i do more stuff for women doesn't mean i'm i'm against men it just means like totally i love empowering women so so much like I'm so passionate about it but guys will support that so it is a really difficult space yeah on socials and all that and how people see it but that is just the way that I see it yeah we even had it with this podcast like you know everything that

this like brand and our identity is like gym girls locker room is like so pro women but it doesn't mean we're like anti-men yeah and when we had like recently we just had like well we had like three guys on now so far and we were what like 10 episodes in and it's like people saying why have you got men on it's like because there's so much to learn and there's so much to like offer in having the opening up the floor and asking questions and I just I'm really of the opinion I always say like that I think you know like there's that narrative of like um female only gyms or whatever that was my that was my net we had the same brainwave that was my next thing like place and time totally get it however where I stand if people do ask me is like well I feel like men and women should be

able to coexist and like I've seen a lot of what you're saying I really agree with because I've seen like such beautiful like things from men championing women in like my journey anyone else's journey like the guys that I made friends with in the gym space are like probably for the most part like the main contributing factor in me like even pursuing the strength training and like gym and fitness that I do yeah you know so it's like yeah the women's only gym things I get asked about it a lot as well just like random conversations I completely agree I think it's wonderful if men and women can coexist and support each other in every way possible and for those women who feel they want a women's only gym I think maybe just try and work on that with other people like

ask people for support and help or a personal trainer and get advice and get help like if I go to a new gym I'll still get gym anxiety occasionally for sure like I get really stared at I think because of like how I've packed muscle on the way that I look or the six pack or whatever if I go to a new gym especially in London I'm like oh please don't stare at me it's uncomfortable and then I remember I'm all right I'm okay here I'm allowed to be here I'm fine here I know exactly what I'm doing it's all fine Lucy crack on with your session and it's that whole thing of the women's only gym it almost segregates it even more and I just I

wouldn't want that I I just think the support from guys can be so valuable just as women supporting men and yeah I think we we've always had a very similar outlook on that from when we spoke about it um before and I don't mind sharing that view to people either I think it's a good view to have yeah definitely and like absolutely not discrediting people that do want that like oh no even for like you know I do think there is a time and a place like even for like religious oh 100 reasons and stuff but yeah I just think you know pro men pro women just like everyone just can everyone be happy families and just get on that'd be great yeah 100% um what do you have coming like what are you working on what's next what's next tell the people um so from a business perspective

we have a lot going on with my coach app it's very very exciting um I can't really share too much for what's going on but big collaborations happening with some incredible brands for the app because the app is taking on new coaches it's very much a brand in itself now like me and Ben are obviously the founders and at the forefront of it and two of the biggest coaches on the app but it's at the stage where we've been doing it for like four or five years now. And it's really grown into a brand. And my coach is its own entity. And it's wonderful.

The podcast is just so exciting. We should be going on a podcast tour later this year. Which should be amazing. Fingers crossed. There's like a lot of logistics that we're sorting. So the podcast is incredible. We love just getting loads of guests on. That's like the biggest thing for us is to keep getting valuable guests on and being able to speak and open more conversation from a fitness thing i've

got geneva marathon next week of course um yeah so i'm pacing my sister for that one it's meg's first marathon yeah so i'm running with her so I honestly I can't wait so I'm I'm running that with her and I'm supporting her through and through do you have a time that you guys are going for she does but I won't share it because I don't want it so I won't add that external pressure on her she she has shared it's like her group and things and not on the pod yeah just not on the pod I don't want to put that pressure on her no no no she has she has shared it's like her group and things and not on the pod yeah just not on the pod I don't want to put that pressure on her no no no um and I should be fine to pace her for that time after London like I feel great after London we've then got High Rocks Worlds together in Nice I think I'm gonna go and watch there are you yeah my friends made it in so I'm

like yeah yeah come to Nice we'll all be there yeah so high rocks world um so it's june i potentially might throw an ultra in there somewhere like a weighted vest ultra i'm trying to raise money for because i work with a weighted vest a weighted vest ultra there is there is thought process behind that so i work with um a charity in Nepal now who support the porters who do the Everest base camp trek like it really oh yeah it really hit different so I work with the Nimnes Dyer Foundation and I want to raise money in a way that's like potentially like a 72 mile ultra with a weighted vest to kind of mimic the distance that the porters travel for Everestest but i mean that

it might be next year i'm not 100 sure but that could be july maybe um august i've got another marathon but i can't say what yet or who with but i've got another marathon august and then i've got another high rocks potentially singles and also doubles so they're kind of things that i've just got just a few just a few things I've got I think that's something I forgot oh I've got a half marathon in May as well I've got the Great North Run yeah there's two other things I can't remember what they are but there's they're all a lot they're all here there and everywhere oh my god and then hopefully at some stage get pregnant that is definitely on the agenda I didn't want to say it out loud yeah it's like it is it is on the agenda I think um we really would love a baby like we really really would just love a little Lucy and

Ben who can just be a part of everything that we're doing I think the way we see it is because loads of people said to me like oh but everything you do I'm thinking yeah but I'd have the kid I'm still going to train through pregnancy fingers crossed if I'm feeling groovy I think I really hope I am like even if I have morning sickness I'd be like okay throw up and then hope that I can train whatever um yeah it's all in hindsight I so see it being like Tia Claire TV yeah she's like my ambition and little baby bouncing I want to continue to do all these races with my baby watching with my child watch me like that's my mom like it makes me so emotional it makes me want to cry because my life is going to flourish and i'll be so happy when i've got a little baby boy or a little baby

girl on the sidelines i know it will be hard to have a kid two three businesses all social media and a baby for sure and all the training that's hard and i'm i'm just at that stage where i'm ready for that little person so fingers crossed um we don't know when it will be but it's just yeah this year next year well the period's back so it's back this is what we were waiting for she's on it was really they's back this is what we were waiting for it was really though like this is what we were waiting for because you do have to be ovulating and have your period to have your natural cycle so when it happened obviously it was like four weeks ago now me and ben were so happy but i was like crying because i was like not now i was like

i've still got like 100 miles to run um yeah so a very exciting year and I'm just trying to be very present and live in the moment and just keep enjoying everything I'm doing where can people find you they can find me uh on instagram lucydavis underscore fit you know it's very confused that my actual name is held in now because slightly it is but my business name is lucy davis fit so across all socials youtube tiktok lucy davis fit and then the not so fit core podcast the my coach app that is that is me in a nutshell oh my god amazing thank you so much thank you so much for having me like you're just so much you're so incredible and I just know like there was so much I personally can take and the girls would take and I think

everything you do is wonderful and you're so inspiring and I just can't wait for the baby it's gonna just be like I know but I just bring them I'd be like you can just come but thank you so much. Thank you. You're wonderful. All right. Thanks so much, guys. Take care.

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