HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - 5 CASOS ATERRADORES QUE OCURRIERON EN NAVIDAD | FT. PODCAST EXTRA ANORMAL. | EP.50

Episode Date: December 22, 2022

Feliz Navidad querida Familia Nocturna , el día de hoy les traemos el ESPECIAL DE NAVIDAD 2022: EP 050 | 5 CASOS ATERRADORES QUE OCURRIERON EN NAVIDAD | FT. PODCAST EXTRA ANORMAL. Donde les contaremo...s EXPERIENCIAS EXTRA ANORMALES , CASOS ATERRADORES QUE SUCEDIERON EN NAVIDAD , HISTORIAS PERTURBADORAS Y RELATOS ESCALOFRIANTES NAVIDEÑOS ¿Sabías que existen ENTIDADES OSCURAS NAVIDEÑAS? Pues el día de hoy vamos a hablarte de algunas que te van a atemorizar. Quédate hasta el final en este ESPECIAL DE TERROR NAVIDEÑO y escribe la frase CUIDADO CON EL KRAMPUS si llegaste hasta aquí y solo tu y yo sabremos de que estamos hablando. FELICES Y ATERRADORAS FIESTAS TE DESEA EL NARRADOR Y SU QUERIDA EDITORA.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new episode of Let Me Too Let Me Exist. The day of today we have an episode Doblement Special. First, because it's the episode Special of Naviadal. And second, because we have a good Paco Arias De Nouveau with us, Paco.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Good night, how are you? How is your name? The truth is that I'm just like always when you invite us. I'm a salute to all the family Nocturna, a brazo. And, well, here we're talking. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Oh, yeah, those we're just in pause with the stories of the U.S. But this will be worth the way to be the enough to you know,
Starting point is 00:00:35 you know, you know, let's talk about some, um, some of the stories that are, um, we're,
Starting point is 00:00:42 um, and that's chido, and of people, and so, so, so,
Starting point is 00:00:47 the reality is that they're a, a, a, a, a, a,
Starting point is 00:00:51 a, because many of them, the family of my husband, the one is you, then,
Starting point is 00:00:57 then, then, then, then, then, right in a moment they're going to be able to
Starting point is 00:00:59 they're because the really, when they're when they're like, the fact, the fact,
Starting point is 00:01:04 like, I'm, it's a sensation of when you're a little a little
Starting point is 00:01:07 fear. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:01:13 because I'm also, two anecdotes familiarers, and one of those, especially one,
Starting point is 00:01:20 the day that they're the day that they're making many, many things, so,
Starting point is 00:01:25 so, so, so, because, wow, I mean, yeah, yeah, we'll talk about, because more than to generate expectations was to understand implications of the situation,
Starting point is 00:01:36 and that was very perturadorable. But, well, before to initiate with the episode, dear family nocturna, you invite to, to come a little to, do you, if you're getting to this moment,
Starting point is 00:01:49 give a like, subscribe, yeah, either for Spotify, Apple Podcast, or in YouTube, and prepare it, because it came to
Starting point is 00:01:56 the moment of that we'll be able to no exists. So, so, you think, if I'm
Starting point is 00:02:02 if I'm a lot of the stories that I'm perfect. Perfectissimo, there's, Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:29 The good Docops, to me, me surprised at the moment in the moment in the in the when I was I was really pretty much
Starting point is 00:02:36 looking canals of and the and the actually, was one of the one of I've got
Starting point is 00:02:42 that I'm that I've been a of him, I, Ike started, I'm going
Starting point is 00:02:48 to know more, I'm not, because I try yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I'm, I'm, I'm I'm toped with a story of him, or
Starting point is 00:02:56 she's the commented some years and me bowed the and it is the
Starting point is 00:02:59 that I'm that you want to the great. He he's a
Starting point is 00:03:02 story of a woman in the United I don't
Starting point is 00:03:06 remember the decade that that one he was
Starting point is 00:03:09 the day of the night and the time and
Starting point is 00:03:13 he he is at the side of the he's
Starting point is 00:03:19 she he he's he he he he he
Starting point is 00:03:23 says what he He says, is that a ratito entered Santa at the house, you're still waiting.
Starting point is 00:03:30 She's very rare a phrase, and then she says, how's Santa? And the the little
Starting point is 00:03:36 back to the passio that was the Pino to the night, and just front of
Starting point is 00:03:42 the pin was a silhouette never, observant the and she no
Starting point is 00:03:46 recognizes the silhouette and her and the head instantly he I'm say,
Starting point is 00:03:51 say, I'm someone is to get to your house.
Starting point is 00:03:53 The house only had a This is a part This is a part And she's a part And she's practically Peked to the
Starting point is 00:04:02 Peked to So make the He starts He starts And he says And he Pied that For favor
Starting point is 00:04:08 Mark the 911 because They're in an emergency All the time is observing to The
Starting point is 00:04:14 Vecino also is being So it's Possible Someone came In the information
Starting point is 00:04:18 Someone went to In 10 minutes In a action Rapid there were various patroias of policeia. Entran
Starting point is 00:04:26 all to the house? In the house, no, nobody. Absolutely nobody. The lady, the signora, no entient,
Starting point is 00:04:35 no, there's what she's inalienable, no, there are there been there's been perfectly the
Starting point is 00:04:42 silhouette of a woman front of the pinno of the night, and the he was doing
Starting point is 00:04:48 the little, the little, in that moment, when you were when he's were the patroias, he said, Moma,
Starting point is 00:04:54 if it was Santa Claus, right? And she, for not to be a lot of us he said, he, he
Starting point is 00:05:00 he, he came to a time was a time. I think that's that he
Starting point is 00:05:04 was a time that maybe was a one of those stories that's
Starting point is 00:05:08 not far not far not because. Tremendor because are stories that
Starting point is 00:05:14 have important that have that when we're those we
Starting point is 00:05:22 we're going to start about I'm going to like that's good and I'm going to see a
Starting point is 00:05:27 very in the baul familiar I'm getting good stories but revisating
Starting point is 00:05:32 some some some I'm talking about what I talked about in the
Starting point is 00:05:36 last the last the last in the channel extra normal uh
Starting point is 00:05:42 right I've been I've been that much people are using a filter no
Starting point is 00:05:48 maybe you you know what is the that caricature of anime. Ah, of the lens.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Yeah. I think many people of those who are you are even who are used. Well,
Starting point is 00:06:00 to what I'm going with this? I'm going to talk to try to talk to something that
Starting point is 00:06:07 a person that is a follower and that apart I know I know, it's
Starting point is 00:06:14 supposed that this application is that a caricatura and what you want to
Starting point is 00:06:18 there are some people who have a time came here the channel and are
Starting point is 00:06:24 investigators paranormal they're in the tools they're in their instruments is the kinet
Starting point is 00:06:31 me is of the Xbox because this kinet when when you put
Starting point is 00:06:38 in front of it you draw the form of your body because
Starting point is 00:06:43 he's the so you can't you can't you can't basically basically
Starting point is 00:06:48 you know, your silhouette. Supposedly these people occupy this kinet when they're in some
Starting point is 00:06:57 lot of valdi or in a house abandoned and they're they're because they have the
Starting point is 00:07:03 theory of that the sensor that can't can't can't what is perceptible
Starting point is 00:07:09 for the human so when they're sure that there some there's
Starting point is 00:07:13 some some type of presence in this place they
Starting point is 00:07:17 put the kinet and the kinet and the kinet they're like if someone was in the obscurity?
Starting point is 00:07:25 To what I'm to this? A what I'm to go with this? Many people have started to
Starting point is 00:07:32 occupy that that filter not not to generate your caricature but because supposedly
Starting point is 00:07:37 when you you put in a part specific that you cause like fear or
Starting point is 00:07:44 like incertitum probably might can't capture something. I'm a algorithm that can't be
Starting point is 00:07:50 certain, can be false. I'm just I'm just I'm sure. This is a guy who's this girl
Starting point is 00:07:56 me said, I'm just I'm just to move to a child, I'm a new year and we
Starting point is 00:08:04 know the first night and I could do do not know. No, I'm told me he said
Starting point is 00:08:08 much fear, but no me I'm very temeroso, and, I decided to talk to him.
Starting point is 00:08:21 He's the what he he's what he he says, Moma, I'm going to the house I'm a
Starting point is 00:08:28 a girl that's a vestia of black, has his eyes completely negros and her
Starting point is 00:08:34 voice is great, and is a black. So, she when he's she's
Starting point is 00:08:40 spanta a bit a bad because, for to start you as
Starting point is 00:08:44 you as you And you know, if your son's you know, or if your son is your son, you
Starting point is 00:08:50 are saying, the real thing, in this case, she said, Paco, I know
Starting point is 00:08:54 my my son, I know he never me would be and he
Starting point is 00:08:58 never me has a kind of that that that's so,
Starting point is 00:09:02 then I'm he said me would be to him, he would be
Starting point is 00:09:06 he he was and he he was he was he was a
Starting point is 00:09:13 the door of the door open and he said there's the little there's a
Starting point is 00:09:16 little there's a there's there's so far abrassame so I'm very
Starting point is 00:09:23 very valiant I'm I'm I'm I'm a no I'm no no mom
Starting point is 00:09:29 is that there's there's there's there is that there in the
Starting point is 00:09:34 place so I in that I'm I'm I'm what some people
Starting point is 00:09:39 are doing I'm put with the telephone and
Starting point is 00:09:43 And I said, no, I mean, it doesn't have to not, no. Here I'm going to start showing to you, and I'm going to share also
Starting point is 00:09:51 for, by this message, for that you can't share to your followers, she upunt
Starting point is 00:09:57 with the telephone and and he's this image that I'm going to see here. Ah, that's
Starting point is 00:10:05 that's great. I mean, I know, I know, I know, I know, that could be that any
Starting point is 00:10:12 person, you can't, but it, that that, that's that's all for defect. But how is that you
Starting point is 00:10:19 do you know what the stuff? It's not, that's a little where the new year's the thing in the field, and they've got to be this same filter, and have
Starting point is 00:10:42 gotten to get a a series small in form of a little. Well,
Starting point is 00:10:46 the application you can do you a little that's there's there so that
Starting point is 00:10:51 the thing that I'm that's that's tremendous. It's tremendous.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I don't exactly how function in the application but the
Starting point is 00:11:02 fact of being something and that you have the form
Starting point is 00:11:07 by the apparel to be to be sincere I don't see
Starting point is 00:11:12 if in all the cases, the most recommendable is to corroborate because I'm
Starting point is 00:11:17 talking about, taking in account the experiences that me say many people, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:22 you know, situations that have been, and here in the podcast, those who have narrated
Starting point is 00:11:27 those things, I know, if not you do make a miso, so is it's
Starting point is 00:11:34 like, so it's like so it's like, they're doing to give the attention. So,
Starting point is 00:11:39 corroboral with an apprata is a reaction instantania, is to say, yeah, is to generate a mood
Starting point is 00:11:46 emotional. So, I don't know, no, if it's the most convenient, but it's
Starting point is 00:11:51 tremendous that can work something like, imagineate. She was solo with her son,
Starting point is 00:11:57 they were like the night. And she got to the camera with all the
Starting point is 00:12:02 lights basically just just a little little little
Starting point is 00:12:05 the car and it and it and it does to show
Starting point is 00:12:08 to see nothing. His surprise, her man, his surprise of what captured the camera.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I mean, the fear that she said, because me said, Paco, you in that the
Starting point is 00:12:17 same thing, the same me, and my and he said, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:12:23 it's a thing, obviously, no, I said, it's, it's, it's a
Starting point is 00:12:28 man, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm sure, I'm going, I, I said,
Starting point is 00:12:32 to the, so, to the little bit, because the image, the thing the time the time,
Starting point is 00:12:36 to the I'm going to pass for that you can you can't share to the followers. Yes,
Starting point is 00:12:41 yes, you have to see this image. If we're listening in any platform of podcast,
Starting point is 00:12:45 come to YouTube, here will be to be not you know the minute because in the
Starting point is 00:12:49 post-production in so came, but they're and be the image is tremendous.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And Fidate how this this this time of the time
Starting point is 00:12:57 that is a relationship with the children, with the people, and there
Starting point is 00:13:03 various stories that has for this anecdot me has
Starting point is 00:13:07 to be a mind. One is a person a person a person
Starting point is 00:13:35 a a that when when he was a young she had had,
Starting point is 00:13:40 he had, he had, he was his two years, and when the mayor
Starting point is 00:13:43 he was his years, he he was much the never
Starting point is 00:13:47 because he he was put the and was very creative
Starting point is 00:13:51 for the so so always was a custom
Starting point is 00:13:56 family the the fact to get all the
Starting point is 00:13:59 things new and that he could make the
Starting point is 00:14:02 Navideo family and it was a very a lot of a month before a situation
Starting point is 00:14:09 very a situation very a person who a carer and the person has a better
Starting point is 00:14:16 life. So for when when this Navid this is this destruction.
Starting point is 00:14:21 The Navid is the worst moment that could exist because
Starting point is 00:14:26 he he he he doesn't all to go of the
Starting point is 00:14:34 fact of the time of the accident in his hands and remember
Starting point is 00:14:41 everything how it was she was she was it was something that he had
Starting point is 00:14:46 robbed the past he had been embehec enormously only
Starting point is 00:14:50 in a year and the the festival for that was
Starting point is 00:14:54 a something that was the situation occurred just
Starting point is 00:14:58 the night of the 24 she not was
Starting point is 00:15:01 in the house. No, I wanted celebrate the Navidate, but no I wanted to get in the
Starting point is 00:15:05 house. So, it's a little bit of and they're a little not a fista night.
Starting point is 00:15:13 So, that it's a reunion family, and that they put a music of other
Starting point is 00:15:17 other and that help you all of this. All right and they do you do a
Starting point is 00:15:23 kind of that's not a new was related with the month, and it's all over
Starting point is 00:15:29 a certain moment disconnect to be very He gets the house and
Starting point is 00:15:34 a door and then he at the front in the light a blue
Starting point is 00:15:40 resplandecent and for one second he'll forget the tragedy that he had
Starting point is 00:15:45 had lived and he's and he says the name of his name of
Starting point is 00:15:50 he says you armaste the Pino and then then he
Starting point is 00:15:54 that that that's not can't a second thing and that that year
Starting point is 00:15:59 that year that that year Corre to the because the light is resplandecent. She's not
Starting point is 00:16:05 alone, she's on a little, the little the little back to and when they're at
Starting point is 00:16:10 the cell the light disappears. The situation is this. She's she's up that one
Starting point is 00:16:17 that's she's but at moment of to turn to the endra all the
Starting point is 00:16:24 time, everything tapisado. She has been the last the last last month
Starting point is 00:16:27 in total obscuridid and all the depression. So, you have passed
Starting point is 00:16:33 almost 45 years of that situation. And she said, for me, was the signal of
Starting point is 00:16:39 my child of my child, I'm that he was still and he's about
Starting point is 00:16:42 despidient. Tremendous and you know, I don't why, because, of the
Starting point is 00:16:50 one of the anecdotas that I also have to have been a similar to
Starting point is 00:16:54 a same, is familiar of a Tia that today now
Starting point is 00:16:59 is with us the history in two parts, I'll tell you
Starting point is 00:17:02 to be in the part one. I don't because there are adults that they're
Starting point is 00:17:08 that not they're there's there's there. There's many people but
Starting point is 00:17:14 I've known a lot that not and exclusively people
Starting point is 00:17:17 and here a sometimes I get a really weird
Starting point is 00:17:21 of I'm not seen bad with the old the old of
Starting point is 00:17:27 the one of of them of Francis, you know, when I tolerable
Starting point is 00:17:31 to hear the the music, you know, so, for so forth so. So,
Starting point is 00:17:35 so so that's, like, I'm a good, I'm not, you know, that's
Starting point is 00:17:49 a lot of so that's a lot of the area where we're a one thing, it was a country,
Starting point is 00:17:56 a rancho that a city so they're so they're so they're not not they're
Starting point is 00:18:04 absolutely a lot of nothing even even in the family that there there was
Starting point is 00:18:09 a everyone everyone everyone everyone that's but that day
Starting point is 00:18:15 was very awa fiestas because no he didn't
Starting point is 00:18:18 like much much that was she was to make a guy was a
Starting point is 00:18:24 and make a a no, there were an there was a bolito, no, there was nothing. In this time, she was going to be able to go ahead and all right. All right, all of us are in her house,
Starting point is 00:18:46 but she didn't care to do not. So, all of them to doormy. And she's all of her house, to fumar tobacco, the puros, that fombed in that And she She said That it was
Starting point is 00:19:00 Not too It was like At the night And between The obscurity Because in that Then there There was
Starting point is 00:19:06 There was There was a Galopar Of a Caboy And so There were in Some of
Starting point is 00:19:14 Cadena So she There was A lo Loejos A silhouette Of a A man
Starting point is 00:19:20 That was Mounted In a Cable She Was I Was normal
Starting point is 00:19:24 In this then, then, you'll see a the people to
Starting point is 00:19:27 the little, but a particular. This silhouettes she was
Starting point is 00:19:32 going to and there was a place where there was a little
Starting point is 00:19:36 a little. She saw a man a man was a
Starting point is 00:19:41 man, he was a man, he had a charro, he
Starting point is 00:19:46 had a shirt, but he had the eyes very rogous
Starting point is 00:19:49 not he had the right rogers. So, she's he kept
Starting point is 00:19:54 looking and she was going and she kept looking looking fissingly some seconds while
Starting point is 00:20:01 in that moment the charro the turn and she per in the obscurity. She
Starting point is 00:20:06 said, that earlier that was the humo of tobacco like orientable like
Starting point is 00:20:12 the aubentable, but also typical Mexican that you see something
Starting point is 00:20:17 you start, so then then she applied those And, yeah,
Starting point is 00:20:23 and, well, in that moment, that was the experience. After there, all the family was entered of
Starting point is 00:20:31 this, because that was the 24 of December in the night, when, well,
Starting point is 00:20:37 all of us were doing and they're so they're so much. How you see? That's
Starting point is 00:20:42 situation, and it was like the charro never, so, but, well,
Starting point is 00:20:46 the charro never, he had heard I've heard a charro black of the
Starting point is 00:20:50 red and fiftate that was something was a thing I'm like a year, I'm
Starting point is 00:20:58 so I'm like 15 years in one we've we've on mission when I
Starting point is 00:21:03 went to get lost and I did missions every I've
Starting point is 00:21:06 got a opportunity I really I'm really I'm to get
Starting point is 00:21:11 to five in a year. I just was always I'm in one of those that were
Starting point is 00:21:18 like fugasses express, of the fact, in December, but not were in
Starting point is 00:21:23 December, we were in a rancheria very nearer. I'm going to say no,
Starting point is 00:21:28 but in that rancheria circana, after a second, we're we're doing in two
Starting point is 00:21:37 groups. After a second, we're we're we're we're
Starting point is 00:21:40 to all this to the time. In the re-enquentro I see those
Starting point is 00:21:45 of the other group are they're like very very
Starting point is 00:21:47 happy and all the same time very nervous and I'm in the other people are, the notts like the lot of
Starting point is 00:21:54 those are not and they said, no, it's that you know, it's not you know, they were they were in
Starting point is 00:22:01 a school, during various days, they were doing a gallopard of a a cabo a raliencheo
Starting point is 00:22:07 like a caro coming down but no, no, no, they didn't
Starting point is 00:22:12 then they didn't they were a lot of the the light of the city. So it was sufficiently oscuro
Starting point is 00:22:19 as if you not you not you're a little light of the not you. It's a completely
Starting point is 00:22:25 dark. Totally. So, then they're that finally a day, a middle of a half of
Starting point is 00:22:31 a month, they were all out of the school, they were talking, they're in the
Starting point is 00:22:36 galopar and he and it is right to be a front of them a charro
Starting point is 00:22:40 in a carro in a the people. Until that they're even they're
Starting point is 00:22:45 any type of lampar but for the light that was out of the school,
Starting point is 00:22:49 they'd like, but the eyes, those eyes those are those are redos.
Starting point is 00:22:54 But not are rogos of when you're like they were a way, they said never
Starting point is 00:23:01 never we never even so, he's present it two days more. And he
Starting point is 00:23:05 was there and it just that you're that scene to be see fission
Starting point is 00:23:10 to me the I'm the cargista, what It's a lotcura contemplate
Starting point is 00:23:15 this of the Charro Negro of Rojo Rhoes I'm in many people people
Starting point is 00:23:21 that have had been a lot of a encounter with this and many followers
Starting point is 00:23:27 here of podcast extra normal me have made to get various anecdotes that have
Starting point is 00:23:31 to be with this mythic but not of them they're they're they're
Starting point is 00:23:36 they're they're people and they're people and there's the
Starting point is 00:23:40 second part in the in the 2016 that Fallece this Okay Okay
Starting point is 00:23:47 Here's Feeate how connect to all Yeah My Tia from October
Starting point is 00:23:53 I've been Had been I was I'm sorry And then And then Was it Yeah the
Starting point is 00:23:58 Not Well Yeah it was The age Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:24:03 And so They were And so They're Yeah I was Yeah I was
Starting point is 00:24:08 I'm I'm Yeah I'm Deas It's of the signan, no, and like, they're just
Starting point is 00:24:14 the moment. Fifate how connect them the things, because it's something that before, before,
Starting point is 00:24:20 before I'm saying, I'm sorry, I don't know that I'm not I know. That story as a
Starting point is 00:24:26 time. So, so it a sombra, because it's October, November, enter December,
Starting point is 00:24:33 and his health of their and start to be more. At the December,
Starting point is 00:24:38 well, like, as you comment, we've heard that we've heard that's
Starting point is 00:24:45 that's the 24 of December. And the 24th December, the family no decide
Starting point is 00:24:52 to do nothing, more than a single, in silence, because we had a family
Starting point is 00:24:59 that was in a court and all the family was we're we're
Starting point is 00:25:01 we're we're we and after the dinner after the
Starting point is 00:25:07 last of the brazo, we we're sitting in the mess and like my
Starting point is 00:25:12 colony I think it's very really a really really very obscure everyone
Starting point is 00:25:16 all they're the galopar of a cabo and some and then
Starting point is 00:25:22 so never never there doesn't mach if doesn't
Starting point is 00:25:27 because we we've he's that he live that that's always
Starting point is 00:25:31 they're in a there yeah yeah yeah we're
Starting point is 00:25:35 we're we we're we're But no He was. No, and passed
Starting point is 00:25:41 some minutes and said one of my primos oh yeah, no has entered my tio. That's rare, he's
Starting point is 00:25:47 he's called his cabo we're we're not and there. At the few minutes he's
Starting point is 00:25:53 one of my tias of the court, crying, saying that my tia had
Starting point is 00:25:58 fallen. I mean, I'm just, I'm just because it was minutes
Starting point is 00:26:03 after. So, So, we know that history, but the anterior I don't know that was that was going to
Starting point is 00:26:12 the last, that was that I was that I don't know that I know until so I'm
Starting point is 00:26:18 talking with my husband and the family I go, I don't know we don't we want to not,
Starting point is 00:26:23 but it is very curious the encounter that there was in the years 1950 and something
Starting point is 00:26:28 and the 2016 because they were in the same feches that she she
Starting point is 00:26:34 told all what he saw what he we're we're what she I've heard.
Starting point is 00:26:38 What is the charro black? No, I don't know, because here also there's
Starting point is 00:26:43 about much of the famous carretta of the murder. Oh, tell me that I've
Starting point is 00:26:49 heard I have seen? Supposedamently well, here in my city, it's
Starting point is 00:26:54 said that one person when they're going to listen they're they're
Starting point is 00:26:57 like like like it's like it's and it's that the carret
Starting point is 00:27:02 that that's it's We're going to what are the Cadens and the Cajos so,
Starting point is 00:27:08 so it's one so they're not one, it's it's quite, and supposedly when it's
Starting point is 00:27:13 someone that's a person, then it's a creency a little here in my zone.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I don't see if some of the people that are that know,
Starting point is 00:27:23 but some people don't not of Charrro Nero if
Starting point is 00:27:26 not they're on the thing to the carnet of the the
Starting point is 00:27:28 thing yeah yeah because in this was the sound the
Starting point is 00:27:31 the the Okay, okay. Okay, okay, what tremendous history, how strong, and the fact of that it's a familiar,
Starting point is 00:27:41 to me, uh, me, um, the stories family, is me, me,
Starting point is 00:27:43 it's, because I'm, because I'm, I mean, I mean, the fact of, the fact of that a familyar,
Starting point is 00:27:51 like, he's a part of the and a part of it's to be right, yeah, but,
Starting point is 00:27:57 too, because the fact is that I only, I'm only know, the story that I
Starting point is 00:28:01 took to live of very very young, and and just that that. I was, I mean, it was like I don't have taken to much
Starting point is 00:28:07 to talk about the people. But right I tell you, we're talking to talk to this thing. I'm going to get into and I'm, I'm going to enter, and I'm to get into, I mean, oh, yeah. When you put the slavones of the cadena, right? And you're just you know that there were some faultants. Wow. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:23 You're going to be little pieces of the rumpkevades and you're just okay, what happened? Figate. And some various things that you're surprised. But, well, Adelante, Yeah, Yes,
Starting point is 00:28:34 yes, is that, well, passes to back back. How you you get to you,
Starting point is 00:28:40 after having said, you know, after a minute hour. One hour, a minute,
Starting point is 00:28:46 or not, less, you know, so, I'm doing, I'm doing, because I'm to get
Starting point is 00:28:53 up-uponters, I'm to investigate, I'm asking to the family, and I'm and I'm
Starting point is 00:28:56 going to yeah, we. So, and, almost, almost, almost,
Starting point is 00:29:01 the moment, dude. , I'm exclusive to Paco. Muchis. No, much thanks to you.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Because, no, I'm going to go to go ahead, more ahead in the channel. This, uh, right,
Starting point is 00:29:12 a bit of the other chapter or what we think I, I don't know I, or if I mentioned, the,
Starting point is 00:29:16 the, the, the, the, the, of Japan, yeah, for a
Starting point is 00:29:21 right, when I'm this, you, I'd be to be a time, right? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:29:24 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and, and if,
Starting point is 00:29:27 and, so, of the United that's the United of Japan, will be the next of this
Starting point is 00:29:33 channel, that we're going in collaborations. If it's that's the unclos, tranquillus, Pronto.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Oh, yeah, me, I'm, I'm, you know, one of the stories that me told us,
Starting point is 00:29:42 that made so much, much, ruduses of the other person that not the night.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Fikate how exists this duality of Navid. To me, a me me,
Starting point is 00:29:51 me, I'm remonted to my infancy. When I I'm, I'm talking of some
Starting point is 00:29:57 Buenos Ayeres, in the 90, I saw a movie that in their
Starting point is 00:30:04 time I was very aburried. But passing two years, I top for the movie and I was
Starting point is 00:30:09 a lot of the phantasmas after the Naviad or the phantasm of the night,
Starting point is 00:30:15 that is a movie for those that are the movies like like drama
Starting point is 00:30:20 comedy is an adaptation of a novel that I don't remember
Starting point is 00:30:25 the author, but is very good. But that this novel you
Starting point is 00:30:29 pass about how they're presenting to the person like the other the navit
Starting point is 00:30:35 past, a Navid Present and the future. And the ultimate
Starting point is 00:30:37 is the death. So, I don't do spoiler because that's
Starting point is 00:30:42 because that the first the first 20 minutes. And really all
Starting point is 00:30:47 really all all really really very very very traumatic
Starting point is 00:30:53 and it has a story of Benis-Cruc. But then I recommend.
Starting point is 00:30:58 That's, that's a very good. The point is that when the person of the personage of the
Starting point is 00:31:02 person who's me was a very much and I'm not there. But now that I'm to do the
Starting point is 00:31:09 investigations, me do you know the duality of the Navidate. So, while
Starting point is 00:31:13 that we put in the figure in Santa Claus, also there are much things that are more
Starting point is 00:31:19 of the style terrorificic and demoniac no? One of of them also,
Starting point is 00:31:24 you're something. I don't know I was. I found another. Figgate that I
Starting point is 00:31:31 took with that in Europe, in many zones of Europe, well, for the
Starting point is 00:31:37 Naviidad, to what I'm going to doct in the theme and if want more data,
Starting point is 00:31:42 you want to find more more fentes, but I think the celebration as the fact
Starting point is 00:31:47 of using the pin to, use the lot, etc, et cetera, the duend
Starting point is 00:31:51 and more things, come from this situation of syncretism.
Starting point is 00:31:55 traditions that have used they're assimilin and they they're a significate
Starting point is 00:31:59 different they're they're they're but in the part of Europe many
Starting point is 00:32:05 of the traditions original were on part of the Navid
Starting point is 00:32:09 and then there there are but that are very are
Starting point is 00:32:14 very there's there there's there a the that I
Starting point is 00:32:18 me impact that is Austria and in Austria they
Starting point is 00:32:22 are monsters that are like monsters Navideans that are related to
Starting point is 00:32:27 this time and what I know I'm that for this era not a time that's it was a
Starting point is 00:32:34 time in the the time in the time in the era of it was the time in the
Starting point is 00:32:39 that normally much people had that so the connotation for
Starting point is 00:32:44 them never never in relation in Felicitism after after
Starting point is 00:32:47 after after after after after when I took with the
Starting point is 00:32:51 Frau Percht I know fra Perthta, people, correct me,
Starting point is 00:32:56 if you know the that about a similar to a Santa Claus. She
Starting point is 00:33:01 knows that she knows what the man is bad. If it's good, she enter in
Starting point is 00:33:07 the house of all. If is good, he's a money of
Starting point is 00:33:10 money to but if it's a little, he he's he's
Starting point is 00:33:16 he's he he's he he's he he he
Starting point is 00:33:20 he there to he he and he life tremendous.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It's one of the figures most spantosas that I have seen many of
Starting point is 00:33:29 the stories are of these characters are created by events of the real. I don't
Starting point is 00:33:35 I want to imagine if this is one of them wow me you
Starting point is 00:33:39 have to try to the mind to that I
Starting point is 00:33:44 know I'm not the people that we know that
Starting point is 00:33:48 it crampus uh the crampus like you're saying is compita, no, of the you, of the, you're going to? Yes, yes,
Starting point is 00:33:56 because the Kramus, basically, naturally, of the folklore of the countries alpine, Australia, Germany, France, Italy, Switzerland, and there's a creencia, but it's a legend of there, that this is, for example,
Starting point is 00:34:10 to start, to have a parienic. The fact, the fact, if you're looking images in Google, you're going to find some representations, some, some say,
Starting point is 00:34:18 they're what is an incubo, but, a language long, a fellow for all the body,
Starting point is 00:34:26 and patas of cabra. The legend of this ser is that in the night of
Starting point is 00:34:31 the five of December the the streets of all these these
Starting point is 00:34:36 people, they're some I'm I'm I'm caray they're
Starting point is 00:34:42 they're they're they're they're and they're and they're
Starting point is 00:34:48 going going to looking people that's people have have the spirit
Starting point is 00:34:52 Navideo they're they're they're in they're in they're to get them to get us
Starting point is 00:34:58 to be castigated for the eternity much people I'm see that you know I'm
Starting point is 00:35:07 like a more like a story like a more they're like they're that they're
Starting point is 00:35:11 a little more more more information and yendom yeah some
Starting point is 00:35:17 some people they're like if it were very real. Even, supposedly, have been
Starting point is 00:35:24 the kids, who are old that have told the experience of that they've heard of those
Starting point is 00:35:30 famous cadenas out of their houses. So, I know that real is the
Starting point is 00:35:36 legend of the Kramos. But as you know, we just we just we're just that we're just
Starting point is 00:35:42 we can get more independently. Yeah, fifted that, as I cited,
Starting point is 00:35:48 the Viento. There's one of the stories in the Nomba that about a celebration in a city very
Starting point is 00:35:58 great, that is a day of the year, the people are they are like they're and they're
Starting point is 00:36:04 permission to attack to the city. Ah, this is in the book, but I toped
Starting point is 00:36:11 with that in the life real, in Austria, in certain times at the
Starting point is 00:36:16 Naviii the person are they are seen of the Crampus and have permission
Starting point is 00:36:20 to attack to the people of the population. And has got to the violence that now
Starting point is 00:36:26 they've got that they're that they're not a credenceal for that they're not even but you're
Starting point is 00:36:31 that's you're saying that probably Patrick Rufus one more did the and he took a little
Starting point is 00:36:37 real and it was in a book like a book, like that we're about about
Starting point is 00:36:41 that much many cults and rituals and those they're they're doing to do a mode
Starting point is 00:36:45 of a story no? Sure. Oh, I'm but I'm I'd like
Starting point is 00:36:48 a question me, I, I'm Well, we know that the
Starting point is 00:36:55 Naviida At the final you know, a, like you can say a practice
Starting point is 00:36:59 that the people the people the publica well, was practicing not
Starting point is 00:37:06 representing the the the the nativity of Jesus. Yes, yes,
Starting point is 00:37:11 you think that really Jesus, the of God naceo 25 of
Starting point is 00:37:19 December? No, no, for you why? Why? Because there's there are
Starting point is 00:37:26 there are there are there are very metied in all these ones, and they've
Starting point is 00:37:31 made and they have, like, analyzed or got to the conclusion of that
Starting point is 00:37:39 Jesus was supposedly or between February and March to
Starting point is 00:37:45 some other people who have studied a more a lot of the scriptures they're upunted to other months of mediation, that no has to be with the, with the Navidavit, with December.
Starting point is 00:37:58 So, supposedly here's about of another being another deity, is the celebration of Saturno, the Ray of the Sol. And basically, there is the 25th of December.
Starting point is 00:38:13 The Saturnalia. Exactly. And And supposedly for So, for example, I know what religion is. There, if I don't want to give up to
Starting point is 00:38:20 give us. I don't know if are the testigos of Jehovah or no record that or if are the
Starting point is 00:38:25 Christians evangelical, not tend to celebrate this because they're conscious that the 25
Starting point is 00:38:32 December not is like the the date in the that Jesus so. So,
Starting point is 00:38:37 I don't see if you know, you know, so you is that, there is there,
Starting point is 00:38:41 there are many there are many there there all the denominations Christianas it depends
Starting point is 00:38:46 much of the theology in the which is based on the I don't want to a class
Starting point is 00:38:52 of a religion but it has a there is a there is a exegesis and the exegesis
Starting point is 00:38:58 comes from from from Lutero and there others and they
Starting point is 00:39:04 did you did some some some of some the uses and the
Starting point is 00:39:07 customs of the the Jews and then then it has
Starting point is 00:39:10 to the interpretation of the Bible from the and that's that there there's there's
Starting point is 00:39:15 there's there's but at the day of today not are things so concluient
Starting point is 00:39:23 more well are so so there there there's
Starting point is 00:39:28 there is a one a day exact of a the of Jesus
Starting point is 00:39:33 because because simply simply they have to be to be
Starting point is 00:39:37 to start to start to the Bible not is a
Starting point is 00:39:40 book properly historically. It's a narrative that's a narrative that has a more religious
Starting point is 00:39:47 more of the or more of, it's a lesson that from the way to do you to get a idea of the
Starting point is 00:39:56 book sacred. But not is a book historical. No, you're talking that one
Starting point is 00:40:00 person is a person's to do you to make to make to data to
Starting point is 00:40:03 so that so that so I'm so much of the data is based and that
Starting point is 00:40:11 has been from the astronomy, what was the staria that they could have seen a
Starting point is 00:40:16 time, but no he's a hypothesis without a and a and a congeture not is
Starting point is 00:40:23 to desestimals but to make clear that no there's exactly this day and this month
Starting point is 00:40:29 for so there's there there's there in what months are in what
Starting point is 00:40:34 months could be in this I think in this So, the syncretism was a methodology that used in, I think, I think, almost all the religions.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Or, so, there were of two. Or those unes and those pegas, or those eliminates. And from the elimination of, what was, what was the gardens? Well, no, for the gardens corganties of Babylon. I think not to know the fact that really existed or no. But the bibliotheca Alejanina, or when it gets invaded,
Starting point is 00:41:04 eliminate all, they're all. It's invading all. it's Kema, no? Here the the Spanioles eliminate
Starting point is 00:41:08 many of the vestigues of all the cultures because it's or you're not you're doing the tuxes
Starting point is 00:41:15 or you're so it's so it turned to that's a point intermediate to not
Starting point is 00:41:20 to make a massacres enormous and to be able to make the people they're
Starting point is 00:41:26 going to put in there about, how not you're not you're not
Starting point is 00:41:30 so I'm some some massacres enormous but I'm for
Starting point is 00:41:34 obietad if not they were in a point intermedia was going to go to go to
Starting point is 00:41:39 a much more going to do you're going to so you're so things some things
Starting point is 00:41:45 that in some moment me met and met and me captivated but I
Starting point is 00:41:51 have been decades I think so I think it's you know you think
Starting point is 00:41:55 you're you think as you you know you don't you
Starting point is 00:42:00 don't there a form to get to the conclusion of a
Starting point is 00:42:05 way to you know, like you said, all it's a book, it's a book very ambiguous. It's a
Starting point is 00:42:12 point in many ways. And as the form the more in what you did it's taking certain
Starting point is 00:42:19 factors, as you do it, the guide of the rays magos, the staria
Starting point is 00:42:25 that at final he says, some people have speculated that not is a star
Starting point is 00:42:29 but it's a planet so, I mean, theologos, the persons that really are really
Starting point is 00:42:36 are in these stas and this old without the fan of evangelizing or anything have gone to get to
Starting point is 00:42:44 other conclusions no? So, people who net, they have dedicated hours and
Starting point is 00:42:49 years of studio, but it me made very curious because, I go,
Starting point is 00:42:54 there there's a probability that not has been the 25 of December.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But, but so still but still celebrating. So, the ritual
Starting point is 00:43:03 as a whole, the Cena, when really there's a story that we know of the king of
Starting point is 00:43:09 the sun, pardon, of Saturn, that's, that's what is what, that's so it's
Starting point is 00:43:14 so that I mean, it's what I'm a kind of to be a kind of you know,
Starting point is 00:43:19 you know, you know, you know of the thing I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm
Starting point is 00:43:25 a person to say, I'm supposed to think, I'm I'm going to the current
Starting point is 00:43:30 of something that I know that I'm because it's real as a real
Starting point is 00:43:34 as I'm a cause a conflict I'm I'm a question. I think a question that's
Starting point is 00:43:42 I think more with my significance and interpretation more than more than what they're
Starting point is 00:43:46 doing. So, I remember much there there's a book because
Starting point is 00:43:51 for me was a porqueria but I'm a thing that was the
Starting point is 00:43:55 Narnia and in those of Narnia there's a one scene that is very iconic
Starting point is 00:44:01 where there there's a god a god that I'm a slan the leon Aslan
Starting point is 00:44:07 yeah and there's a god a man who is a quervo that represents like the
Starting point is 00:44:12 death and then a so a so a person very very good
Starting point is 00:44:18 and then the person principal in that the story I don't I think
Starting point is 00:44:24 the one of the book was I think he was the
Starting point is 00:44:25 he He said, oh, how can't have the quervant a servant that's going to be going to happen? And the Aslan he says, is that all the things, no important that camisa be ponged and that a bandera trygan. The things good always come to me. The things malas always go to the quervo.
Starting point is 00:44:45 So, he, although he is of the quervo, he is a follower my. So I always have taken like a credence. so because I think if God exists or so like an energy universal,
Starting point is 00:44:57 like an entity humanoid, like what is superior to us in many senses. So,
Starting point is 00:45:03 not because we're not because we are limited in some he'll be to be so I
Starting point is 00:45:08 think the rules that we're we're always are in our limitations
Starting point is 00:45:13 and much times is more well a situation of a conflict of
Starting point is 00:45:17 the power's and more than really to get to
Starting point is 00:45:21 a something I'm a posture that's like me, me value in conclusion.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Sure, yeah, definitely, no, I mean, yeah, he'll change the meaning to,
Starting point is 00:45:32 really to what you're to do you're your own, I mean, I mean, the final of you know,
Starting point is 00:45:39 the history or certain, I'm going to be the other, and it's like, it's like, I'm doing
Starting point is 00:45:46 that I'm that's how chiro coincid most brother. Oh, retomando and disculp here the
Starting point is 00:45:54 part of this, this, the, of the creences personales, I mean,
Starting point is 00:45:59 you know, in the comments, the if you have are super very well
Starting point is 00:46:03 in the content. I have a question to you, I have a question to
Starting point is 00:46:08 you, I'm a question, you're in Paures, and the people, how you
Starting point is 00:46:12 celebrate you, the most the grand majority, it's what you do
Starting point is 00:46:19 normally. We're going to we're doing in families, we're doing something we're doing, we're
Starting point is 00:46:23 we're doing, then we're to be the actual of the fact of a year more, all together
Starting point is 00:46:30 you know, you know, thank you, to be the great, the fact of the family.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I think that many people of those who are listening of little the
Starting point is 00:46:43 fact of these feches to be to be to be to be the
Starting point is 00:46:46 regal, in the in the juguettes, in your strenes, but when you go back when you're
Starting point is 00:46:50 when you're to get to get a good to get to your family well, you know, complete,
Starting point is 00:46:57 that no, that's, those sillas basias, those places that are in the mess
Starting point is 00:47:04 as your question. So, we're we celebrate the fact of all together
Starting point is 00:47:08 together we're we're we're we're we're some more, if there's
Starting point is 00:47:13 something to we're disponement to pass that way. That's chido. Thank you. Thanks for to share me, Wemn,
Starting point is 00:47:20 Paco. My traditions have been changing much with the years, much, much,
Starting point is 00:47:26 of things very traditional to have years in those that was a more hermetic
Starting point is 00:47:31 practically not celebrate. And, I've been, I've been coincid with you was the
Starting point is 00:47:38 like, the, I'm really, you're really, you're just a great a great
Starting point is 00:47:43 of the opportunity to to be a time of a year more after a
Starting point is 00:47:47 pandemic that was a very cruel with many with much that was the final of many
Starting point is 00:47:54 stories that really really not they had been been in the
Starting point is 00:48:00 and they're in middle of many we're a good
Starting point is 00:48:04 reflection and a good moment but is that is the intro
Starting point is 00:48:08 for something that I'm there there there there
Starting point is 00:48:11 there there that has to that's with the traditions familiarers. Ruben me told,
Starting point is 00:48:18 that he'll the, the Navidate, the night. He said, but not the Navidate
Starting point is 00:48:22 in the celebration, is what was the and the time, and that he's not
Starting point is 00:48:28 really, so I don't make a time of December. I prefer to be to do
Starting point is 00:48:34 other things and when I've had been opportunity to go to the
Starting point is 00:48:37 place, to to disubic me for complete in that pock is to I said,
Starting point is 00:48:42 I said, I said it's going to do you know, it's he said, Tom Tom, Tom.
Starting point is 00:48:49 And I said, how's Tom Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, was a thing was a thing
Starting point is 00:48:54 when I had a eight years. It was a dweend a little,
Starting point is 00:48:59 very beautiful, that at final was like a little little
Starting point is 00:49:04 Tom, Tom, he had two cascabels, one in his
Starting point is 00:49:08 sombrerito and other, he was there and that when you're
Starting point is 00:49:13 you're in you're in you're a lot of you're in a good good, but that
Starting point is 00:49:19 in the moment to me I'm really. In that year, although
Starting point is 00:49:24 not it was I'm not a time, but there a
Starting point is 00:49:28 time on Tomton disappear no I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:49:31 that did what I know I didn't know
Starting point is 00:49:34 the or in this year or in the day I he was
Starting point is 00:49:39 I was going to look at the house, we found him and I'm really I'm pretty much not so
Starting point is 00:49:47 apegated to the toys but with that it's a kind of a time, in occasions
Starting point is 00:49:52 he was talking about with him, he said, he said now of adult, I know
Starting point is 00:49:58 and it's much sense but simply he was he took a kind of
Starting point is 00:50:02 a very beautiful with something with Tomton I said,
Starting point is 00:50:05 well then if you you know so you Pazot Tom Tom. When
Starting point is 00:50:09 when he went the Navi-Navit when you had been a Tom-Tom that we had had been to
Starting point is 00:50:16 we've got a celebration in the house, had been the family all we have made
Starting point is 00:50:21 the traditions pass-per- when we got to the things I felt much nostalgia
Starting point is 00:50:26 and that's and in that moment that's much that would be
Starting point is 00:50:30 to get Tom-Tom with me but but just you did
Starting point is 00:50:35 the I don't even I don't I remember that me did it in this moment but I remember
Starting point is 00:50:38 that it was not the joy that the that's all the nostalgia that I'm that I'm
Starting point is 00:50:45 that I'm that I'm that I'm a little the situation was that when you were my
Starting point is 00:50:52 my tios and it was very my my my father and my
Starting point is 00:50:55 my and I'm I'm to hear to listen some I'm
Starting point is 00:51:00 to get out the and that's me so I'm
Starting point is 00:51:03 so I'm to the ventana and I see how there's a silhouette
Starting point is 00:51:10 of a person there. And where I'm move, they're to sonar
Starting point is 00:51:17 the cascabels and I see that the silueta is moving
Starting point is 00:51:20 and I feel to get much, much, much, much, I'm
Starting point is 00:51:25 I'm to do back in the camera, me tap with the cov
Starting point is 00:51:28 I'm doing the window and the a repent Tom Tom Tom
Starting point is 00:51:34 is a little bit of the window and he's not a little bit of something he's I'm not
Starting point is 00:51:39 I'm not I'm sure that's so strewing and he's getting and he's the caskabeles
Starting point is 00:51:44 in that I'm so I'm going to go to my pop tom tom tom tom Tomtom
Starting point is 00:51:50 Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom is Tom Tom Tom Tom he came to someone he said he
Starting point is 00:51:56 was he was he was that was that was he was that the that the muke
Starting point is 00:52:02 get it. Then I was I was I'm that you he's a thing that I'm a
Starting point is 00:52:08 not you don't you know it's a feach that's that's all right my papa
Starting point is 00:52:14 was a because my father was an adult and he said there was there
Starting point is 00:52:18 and he took a bat of baseball he he's embalenton because
Starting point is 00:52:22 he sentio we're in risk and he said he's he's he
Starting point is 00:52:26 didn't no he was there there no there a person.
Starting point is 00:52:30 No I could doorming that night but I'm in the quarter of my
Starting point is 00:52:33 papas. In the morning the next when when it was the sun in
Starting point is 00:52:38 the house, I went to the cell and in the pin of the
Starting point is 00:52:42 middle at the center was he said it's
Starting point is 00:52:47 a time that I'm to feel very very
Starting point is 00:52:50 un-t and he did you did it with Tom Tom
Starting point is 00:52:53 no I no you no I don't I said my my
Starting point is 00:52:56 my my my for for for for they're.
Starting point is 00:52:59 Tremendom because there's many there's in the history because
Starting point is 00:53:06 what he happened really, how disappeared where it was and over
Starting point is 00:53:12 what was that that was that was that was that was that was a
Starting point is 00:53:18 story of a a cause much more more that
Starting point is 00:53:22 that I know when they when very puras like
Starting point is 00:53:27 children and and toys and it's it's tremendous it's tremendous fission
Starting point is 00:53:33 fiftate that I don't because there are there are people that they
Starting point is 00:53:41 give a feeling very all all a certain to get to
Starting point is 00:53:48 certain to get to some and that's many it
Starting point is 00:53:51 is to tell you something that I'm planning that's that's that's that's
Starting point is 00:54:00 to be a that's that's but you know that's she has she has a she has a
Starting point is 00:54:08 yeah the people the people do that does her baby shower and they
Starting point is 00:54:12 they're they're a that's a little he was a he had
Starting point is 00:54:17 that he got to the he's or, no see if in other places it's been called Piluco.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I don't see. He had botoncitos and he and he was a friend, he said,
Starting point is 00:54:37 to identify the head, to identify the head, to the feet. And, basically, that was
Starting point is 00:54:43 a muck was very very funerty for the little. Passed the
Starting point is 00:54:49 years and that's the man is the little for details of the
Starting point is 00:54:54 life Yeah, no is with us. Again. That's auget, my prima, my prima, my prima that I have, he has a yearn't really and he was
Starting point is 00:55:04 in a form very special because it was a little bit of that he wanted to be. There you go.
Starting point is 00:55:13 One night, any one she, she demur, much time in recuperation of that goal that's so
Starting point is 00:55:23 And she said She said One night Yeah He was A point of Dorme And the
Starting point is 00:55:30 Muneco Because so she's She's She's She's gonna She's She was
Starting point is 00:55:37 She's She's She's And she She's See And she She
Starting point is 00:55:44 She's The And the And Howe I'm And You
Starting point is 00:55:49 I'm I'm You I'm You If you want to learn, can't this and you
Starting point is 00:55:57 repeat it one and again in the obscurity. She in that moment think, okay, a
Starting point is 00:56:05 most, there are there are there sometimes of the solos can
Starting point is 00:56:09 and every certain time, they're in in movement, not? They're in
Starting point is 00:56:15 action. But this this a little toyte for that functioned
Starting point is 00:56:18 had the buttoncitos or of his hands or of those feet. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:25 In that moment she doesn't know what does it with all the value
Starting point is 00:56:32 she up, preends all the lights the put the a
Starting point is 00:56:37 little a black and it was it was
Starting point is 00:56:41 so the fear first was a feeling was the
Starting point is 00:56:45 that you that you us contests, it was a sentiment of nostalgia, a tristesse
Starting point is 00:56:49 because it had a significant a special but all this is invaded by an
Starting point is 00:56:55 sentiment of fear of terror because it was doing all that's doing
Starting point is 00:57:01 all this so I remember because I'm that I took and it
Starting point is 00:57:08 was very commercialized after many years here in Mexico no
Starting point is 00:57:11 I'm someone to be someone to know to know know Piluco.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Wow. Pongan here Piluco, those who came to this part and they were
Starting point is 00:57:21 to have this muke, but I'm not, I know, what, what history that's
Starting point is 00:57:27 so far? I mean, I mean, stories of so that so I'm so, oh,
Starting point is 00:57:32 no, no, no, I don't know, so, yeah, so, yeah,
Starting point is 00:57:34 so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I've done, so
Starting point is 00:57:38 many years, many years in a time in a department This is all I
Starting point is 00:57:42 remember in a chapter in a chapter of the podcast Extra Normal because I worked in a company
Starting point is 00:57:48 in a company departmental that I'm don't say so the name but is very
Starting point is 00:57:54 famous here in Mexico Okay And there there were zones where these
Starting point is 00:58:00 these were these were on the many people
Starting point is 00:58:03 that he took to be to be guardia of the that every
Starting point is 00:58:12 at a hour there were various departments sensors in the techo
Starting point is 00:58:17 they had to do you to do run-ins and with a control or something
Starting point is 00:58:23 they they they they they was the they
Starting point is 00:58:29 they they did their roundin so he he was the
Starting point is 00:58:33 roundin of the the top tas tas tas tas
Starting point is 00:58:36 tas all all all He'd the roundin of the one, Tast, tast, tast, all right. Yeah, I was the roundin of the last four.
Starting point is 00:58:44 In the of the last four is where the grand majority of the people really really were in the middle. Because, getting to the area of the juggetes, uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It was to feel the pesadess, was to feel the scalofrio, and, and, worse, when all the jugues started to, there were some, that I don't remember
Starting point is 00:59:06 how they they're not they're all, but when they're all of one, all they're all, so they're all so on the furbies.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Exactly. So, all of those so is mixed and much people experimented because much more
Starting point is 00:59:21 activity paranormal always at that hour in that rounding. The other was at six of the morning,
Starting point is 00:59:27 super-relajol but of all, the one of the four was always the more the more
Starting point is 00:59:32 I remember that me always this thing paranormal and I always I said and there's
Starting point is 00:59:38 there's some people some people try to make to make a familyarers that they did they're
Starting point is 00:59:45 they're there's there's there's there's so I'm so I want to be
Starting point is 00:59:52 to be because I was a day I was I'm a but I want I'm
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm I'm to make to come to for at maybe one
Starting point is 01:00:00 one I'm never I'm never But many people, many people, many people,
Starting point is 01:00:08 me told them that sensation, and a various also they were, that all the same time were, but the environment
Starting point is 01:00:15 change totally. So, the temperature a bad, and you start to see, to be,
Starting point is 01:00:19 to be, to be a mind. The first was a video very famous, that no
Starting point is 01:00:25 see if you do you do you know, and the people remember, the,
Starting point is 01:00:29 of the Tienda of abrottes also, yeah, a national, that I
Starting point is 01:00:35 know where had a bodega in that there was a big and that they were always
Starting point is 01:00:41 things. So, there's a video of a guardia that comes,
Starting point is 01:00:45 and when the area, the Santa, the Santa's he's to make.
Starting point is 01:00:50 And he he's he then he he's to be to be where the
Starting point is 01:00:56 guard is trying to come the situation, until that I get a moment that
Starting point is 01:01:00 at the front of a pass and I say no, and here, yeah, that's a lot of that's a yeah,
Starting point is 01:01:05 the people that's listening the person who is going to the Santa because, you know, the factit, that's the factitone, it's a day, and...
Starting point is 01:01:29 Yeah, that's... all the of the I've been, I've done many, there's always,
Starting point is 01:01:32 always, always, always. Some people with the people who I'm talking me,
Starting point is 01:01:36 me commenting, the amount of the quantity of energies that there there, no,
Starting point is 01:01:40 for the quantity of people, all, they have their own their energy,
Starting point is 01:01:45 no, so, so, so, so, so, so, the,
Starting point is 01:01:48 the, the, the, the, the, the, the, there's,
Starting point is 01:01:52 there's activity for normal, the, and, it's, and, And always
Starting point is 01:01:55 have to with areas infantiles, juggetes, the area of the area of the other
Starting point is 01:02:01 time that they found the other in those these tinder departmental before before the
Starting point is 01:02:08 before to start another passada so for that's so it's impossible
Starting point is 01:02:15 to find that so it's impossible to find that they can not they
Starting point is 01:02:20 can't they're not they can't in the area of
Starting point is 01:02:23 litters where are the kids. I remember one a bit of a minute I'm going to I'm going to
Starting point is 01:02:29 be able to start enviating. I don't tell you have been much years. Yes. I'm
Starting point is 01:02:34 I'm going to my office and I see that much people were doing photos and yeah, the feetcito
Starting point is 01:02:41 see you see all the and seeing the rastro they were to get to a and there
Starting point is 01:02:46 there there disappeared there there disappeared so it there disappeared. So it is impressive
Starting point is 01:02:51 because to me has been to is sure that people that we're that's
Starting point is 01:02:55 we're doing a work in a time in a departmental is a way to be this.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Because no, no, it's to be with the people, people,
Starting point is 01:03:04 you know, when we got us when we got us we're going a very good
Starting point is 01:03:08 intention but we're we're we're in a point so it's there's there's
Starting point is 01:03:12 a, no, it's that it's a legend urban, there there's
Starting point is 01:03:16 there much that's that's that's that's that's that's that's
Starting point is 01:03:23 and has a problem, make me to get it's a very interesting. There's a place here in New York.
Starting point is 01:03:30 That's a place citadel. That place citadel, I've told here in the podcast for the
Starting point is 01:03:35 person that I've heard from for those that don't keep in the story because it's super
Starting point is 01:03:40 very strong. That place Citadel is a place citadel where there was a balneario
Starting point is 01:03:45 for the people who know are the people who are the people to the
Starting point is 01:03:49 people and they're to do to do to do a family. That valniary
Starting point is 01:03:54 was opened, without the time of the time of the 80s and the time of the years, but there were many
Starting point is 01:04:03 they were in the children who were there's a story of a guardia that when there was
Starting point is 01:04:09 that he he had to work a reason of that he was a he was a man who
Starting point is 01:04:14 he was he was he was he was he was he was a woman they're
Starting point is 01:04:19 the body metid in the turbinas and that that was a
Starting point is 01:04:22 little. And it was a little bit a week a month and a minute. So the point is that they
Starting point is 01:04:29 constructs the plaza in the where was that the balnearer or the Rodriguez or the
Starting point is 01:04:34 no I remember right the but but at day of they say the guards
Starting point is 01:04:40 that there there's that there you get to go to go in what turn
Starting point is 01:04:45 you you're you you're you you're you're you
Starting point is 01:04:50 You know, you're going to be Purs Marks of Pies, like if they've been been seen Pys Mojado of the two Tendors. One,
Starting point is 01:04:58 is out of the area of vestidores, but it's always out of the area of and it's and in the
Starting point is 01:05:04 other, is in various areas of the Tienda, that have heard of the boys from the
Starting point is 01:05:10 banions, because I'm talking in the madugated, and at the initial, no, they said,
Starting point is 01:05:14 they said, so, they'd get a little, and it and it was repeat and there never
Starting point is 01:05:19 ever but always the wails, the risa of the children, the music,
Starting point is 01:05:22 so I'm there's like there people who there's a situation that you're there's
Starting point is 01:05:29 a lot of and what is doing is to get to but but the
Starting point is 01:05:33 the affirmations of the guys say, no, no, imagineate
Starting point is 01:05:36 when you're when you can't that's that that kind of that
Starting point is 01:05:41 the lot of people saying well that that's the
Starting point is 01:05:48 If someone has If someone has stories, have problems, or something or something tell me to me to get me interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yes, in the place of my city, I've done did also a documental because I
Starting point is 01:06:01 did make a video of a camera of security that I think that I'm going to be going to
Starting point is 01:06:06 be able to because there's because there's a lot because the camera security
Starting point is 01:06:12 that this this time I'll let's let's talk something I was I'm
Starting point is 01:06:17 content for Facebook. And, well, the terms with Facebook. I'm going to create content for that platform. I did a video where I got to get
Starting point is 01:06:29 a fragment of the camera of security of that place. And, unfortunately, he costed, the chama, the person that
Starting point is 01:06:38 was so. Yeah, yeah, but, well, yeah, you're, you're,
Starting point is 01:06:43 you're trying to a place better. And I did do you do a video that so viralized a bit of very much so it
Starting point is 01:06:50 started to share by the groups of the locales because much people,
Starting point is 01:06:55 the the tinder departmental where I worked in this same place
Starting point is 01:07:00 and much people started to share to because the
Starting point is 01:07:06 employees the other locales also have experienced activity
Starting point is 01:07:11 paranormal so in this video it see like a
Starting point is 01:07:14 ballita like of energy Uh so it's a pass
Starting point is 01:07:18 for the pass the and it so it so it's the
Starting point is 01:07:22 camera so we have been looking like the
Starting point is 01:07:27 the the the the the reason of that
Starting point is 01:07:31 is a person or so see a like
Starting point is 01:07:36 a like something something something that is levited
Starting point is 01:07:41 and and there another image that also captured other camera where if
Starting point is 01:07:46 see a silhouette of a little a little a little looking outside of the
Starting point is 01:07:49 place. So, there there around looking to be where.
Starting point is 01:07:54 Where are. Where are. There's the cross-dice of crystal. There is so it normally
Starting point is 01:08:00 usually because at least here in my city before was
Starting point is 01:08:04 a territory of many many years that after
Starting point is 01:08:08 some years so pimento it So it removed and it's
Starting point is 01:08:13 and it so it's about the project of the mangal, it was very buscoso
Starting point is 01:08:20 so so, earlier ago, there's many years there were many
Starting point is 01:08:24 tragedies there. I had even some some families and
Starting point is 01:08:29 before before to be all made a city so much
Starting point is 01:08:35 people was going to be one of the area and it was
Starting point is 01:08:39 I heard of women, of women, and, and, many people for security, appresoran
Starting point is 01:08:47 the pass and they're going. So, so, then there's about that there's many,
Starting point is 01:08:51 and I know what I'm the logical, you know, when they're many of
Starting point is 01:08:55 these things, always in that place, or in a 99.9% there, there's
Starting point is 01:09:03 there's activity paranormal. Simply, almost always. I'm to
Starting point is 01:09:07 say a that I'm a question. Or not it's a question. More well,
Starting point is 01:09:13 it's like a great question. I mean, I would also I also, I'm also, I'm that if
Starting point is 01:09:20 occur in many tragedies in a area, the place, and can pass things. I'm a
Starting point is 01:09:25 postura. No, no, I've confirmed. But it would be interesting
Starting point is 01:09:30 to know if that is what was the case of John Wen Gaysi. Because that
Starting point is 01:09:35 was a place tremendous in that that was the matadero. So,
Starting point is 01:09:41 and he interrower there, etc. All right, all know, all right. All right. If you're
Starting point is 01:09:46 not even if they're in a question, they're not even if they're doing, and I think the day of
Starting point is 01:09:51 day of he is a central commercial. So it would be if there stories of that place.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Yes, and is that it's very common that the people the people, the people that they're
Starting point is 01:10:03 that's things are, and the really the activity paranormal. And I'm sure that even
Starting point is 01:10:12 even to even after the day. But a way of the amount of people, and the
Starting point is 01:10:16 not is so perceptible to our eyes and our eyes when no there nothing. So,
Starting point is 01:10:22 I think if you're a person imagine it a person, imagine it's a person that are
Starting point is 01:10:29 accustomed to lead to to live with to live to that. Yeah, one one way
Starting point is 01:10:33 there there's a there there's the theater of the train, I think
Starting point is 01:10:38 it's a part of the train Antigua and there's no way there's a lot of
Starting point is 01:10:43 there's there's there's a wagon of those times and there's a
Starting point is 01:10:47 a little a culture people people and I don't I don't I
Starting point is 01:10:53 don't I'm I'm planning for but in that there in this
Starting point is 01:10:58 people people that I know that's the peor microeatron because really
Starting point is 01:11:03 you feel you feel you really you feel like if
Starting point is 01:11:08 like if there was something like if if you were invading, like, like you're not, you're not
Starting point is 01:11:13 not is well, the personal. The personnel is very amable. It's because there's a
Starting point is 01:11:18 very rare. Me, I've said much people that, that, that, that,
Starting point is 01:11:23 we, that's, it's in special. He's, he's, nobody is,
Starting point is 01:11:28 nobody's nobody. And then he never you've asked, and he's he's been
Starting point is 01:11:32 he's he's you have to blocker mentally and like if not pass to nothing, and you're because you're
Starting point is 01:11:42 going to start pass and pass and pass. So, meanwhile not so I'm so far you're not
Starting point is 01:11:47 in the when you can get a to get a to get a to get to and learn to live with
Starting point is 01:11:51 that and that that's I'm going to because because they're guards, they're two
Starting point is 01:11:59 guardies that were that were to cover to turn of 12 hours. And me
Starting point is 01:12:03 said, I'm I'm because I am I'm accustomed to see I'm accustomed to see, I'm used to have to have turn one and he's gone but I'm just I'm a little and I go, how do you do you?
Starting point is 01:12:17 That's, is that simply is block you. You blockers, you blocker and you're quits the superstition on the same and even you're still blockade and you're still in what you those mandars to chingara you know where
Starting point is 01:12:29 and you see, so and you're still in what you. So, so you know, So, so, for that's I said, I said,
Starting point is 01:12:36 you know, you know, you're always to be used to do you know, the extraordinary is when I'm an expert or someone who
Starting point is 01:12:43 is not used to have like these roces with all of this, it's a so that's a caron, he's always
Starting point is 01:12:51 a costumbratedissimo, and is one of the person that, that's the day of today to do you still
Starting point is 01:12:55 there, so I'm a good salood. How's your brother or is anonym? No,
Starting point is 01:13:01 no, no, it's He's called Ruben. So, there's a good salute to Don Ruben because he's a person a major
Starting point is 01:13:06 and also is a fan there of the podcast and there's also to hear of the thing. Well, good, good,
Starting point is 01:13:12 Don Ruben, a great brother. And, oh, yeah, what pantalones, Don Ruben, what pantalones?
Starting point is 01:13:17 Oh, me, I'm brought you, for a phrase that you said, things that you can't you can't
Starting point is 01:13:22 do you can't do you and the fact of a person that has not have so much
Starting point is 01:13:27 in this I'm going to be someone new that's something I'm trying one of the stories that I'm planning
Starting point is 01:13:33 for today I'm one of the last last I'm I'm I'm talking some days with the brother
Starting point is 01:13:40 with the good Kevin Maskedman of the Mundo creepy and so we're talking
Starting point is 01:13:46 and me he says that he says it has very many anecdotes really
Starting point is 01:13:51 related to but has present one that in the place in the place in the
Starting point is 01:13:56 the place to come a when I was a little, always started to play with an
Starting point is 01:14:03 amiga imaginary. So, always he was in the same place, in the same
Starting point is 01:14:09 place, passing the time, they're they're to ask them and then the description of
Starting point is 01:14:16 the person with the person who's the amygian. They were a little they were a little
Starting point is 01:14:21 but when he describes, he's actually a person yeah very major. It's going
Starting point is 01:14:27 taking data and a day they can't know that the description is of
Starting point is 01:14:31 a vis-abuela so they're in a photo that's a little she is my
Starting point is 01:14:39 amicic and the mom that was the one of the ex-abuela says
Starting point is 01:14:44 she is the vice-abuela and he says and the vice-abuela in
Starting point is 01:14:48 that the time this quarter not not at a room was a
Starting point is 01:14:52 car was a there was a there was a there Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:57 I mean, I mean, at least, I mean, I tell this anecdote, that me, I told her an invitation, is there in a chapter. A be. The good Luz Montes, I'm sending a little
Starting point is 01:15:07 that's talking to this thing. She said, that he had a friend, that was a very precious, me said,
Starting point is 01:15:14 a person very special, not was a partner, was really a friend, you know, a person
Starting point is 01:15:21 of confidence, that you could confiard much things, without intentions more there's a way,
Starting point is 01:15:27 the question from a time they've been, and he said to say that he said, but that always for
Starting point is 01:15:34 situations external, then they were not they were, the two were living in zones very different,
Starting point is 01:15:40 and, and, but never were. Okay. This person who has died,
Starting point is 01:15:47 and she doesn't, and she has been two telephones with two numbers. In those
Starting point is 01:15:54 two telephone has added one and other like you.
Starting point is 01:15:58 So, in those days she's she know that she never
Starting point is 01:16:03 a friend and never they never so could see
Starting point is 01:16:07 she all the nights all the and I felt
Starting point is 01:16:12 a lot of that a great a one one
Starting point is 01:16:15 one so not not not between the two
Starting point is 01:16:19 and four of the she see that one of those telephones was entering a
Starting point is 01:16:26 call a time. I said entering you. So, one of those
Starting point is 01:16:32 cell phones is margating and she revised the other and she said
Starting point is 01:16:34 she and she Pao in that moment me kept looking
Starting point is 01:16:40 to the two telephones and I decided not to
Starting point is 01:16:43 not because I said that that that that
Starting point is 01:16:47 was not something was not and she said to start and the phone
Starting point is 01:16:55 and the phone and the phone and the other nights, she gets and she gets up to repeat
Starting point is 01:17:01 the same. It's going to sound one of those cell phones and a call, and trying
Starting point is 01:17:07 and I and the other I said and I knowamantly she she no
Starting point is 01:17:13 she doesn't what does it and he will be to be to be a
Starting point is 01:17:18 last a time a one call of the number of her
Starting point is 01:17:22 his his his she was a woman was a great and
Starting point is 01:17:28 he was being apart but it so he was making that he
Starting point is 01:17:33 at the night she she said well and she only
Starting point is 01:17:38 she she she she well she she what you
Starting point is 01:17:42 and what you and she she she still
Starting point is 01:17:43 the she she she she she the next, she she's,
Starting point is 01:17:56 he said, oh, the he said, oh, I like, yeah, I'm not, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:00 I don't you know, I'm markast it, I'm at all right, she's the nameada, and I'm
Starting point is 01:18:05 no, mamma, I'm in no, man, I'm in no, I'm the telephone to make, and say,
Starting point is 01:18:09 yeah, for she, because I'm, she has, she says, she's a cell phone,
Starting point is 01:18:14 and if is certain mom, says, here's the yeah, but I in no
Starting point is 01:18:17 moment you're no I'm me said, Paco, I in that moment I went
Starting point is 01:18:21 to be back because he was the form of that I would be in a question. They're in a chapter.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Of course, no, I don't, I remember the chapter of the question. For the people who
Starting point is 01:18:34 like it, the fact that was one of the experiences that's that's the most me impact because
Starting point is 01:18:40 she is a she is a woman very serious. If in the chapter you'll see in the
Starting point is 01:18:46 chapter, you know, no, not she does not that is the chapter 26, that is
Starting point is 01:18:52 avistamintos and contact with Ceres from the more because it was one of the anecdotes that still
Starting point is 01:18:57 have been the most and that's that's with someone that's that's, well,
Starting point is 01:19:04 that's a way in this world, let's, Paco, what, you can't all my
Starting point is 01:19:09 stories for yeah and rumbo the end up that's that was that was the
Starting point is 01:19:13 last. That was the only, because I have one that I'm that's paranormal
Starting point is 01:19:18 is the is the I said that me quit the tranquillity very in a canion yeah
Starting point is 01:19:24 okay no I'm not going to he's a person very very very circana and the
Starting point is 01:19:29 level of credibility of the story is 100 absolute me he told
Starting point is 01:19:34 something he said he's he he said this I'm talking to
Starting point is 01:19:39 this I'm many many many many years in the in the years
Starting point is 01:19:45 he lived in a city in other place in that
Starting point is 01:19:47 He said that there bands criminales and there were movements very truculent. It was a city very different to
Starting point is 01:19:56 what we've here in Mexico. It was a city in a city in the year in the
Starting point is 01:20:02 time in the was it was about near the night it was absolutely black.
Starting point is 01:20:08 It was never never was never. One day he took
Starting point is 01:20:15 a route that he no demer to have taken. And then after
Starting point is 01:20:18 to go to go to a certain way, he was the route, like it was a road,
Starting point is 01:20:25 you know, a city was a city, it was a city, it was a city, it's a bit of
Starting point is 01:20:32 not you have in the 80s, and no you know, it was the idea of the way,
Starting point is 01:20:37 there was absolutely nothing to do you was a time, and then, but, so, adolescente,
Starting point is 01:20:43 at the thing, what I wanted was, I'd divert me a little, and I say, divert me,
Starting point is 01:20:48 to make a little more just to be a lot more than to start to a lot more and I'm going and I'm going to know that I'm
Starting point is 01:20:54 a little bit that I'm a little because I'm a lot of when I'm when I'm what I'm
Starting point is 01:21:02 doing, and what I'm doing, I'm going, I'm going and I'm when I'm still a kilometer of
Starting point is 01:21:10 my house me comes a motoneta of these that's that are and he says, and a type
Starting point is 01:21:17 and he's a man and he's, and he's, and what are doing you? So, I just,
Starting point is 01:21:25 I just, I'm just, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm here for this
Starting point is 01:21:30 situation, we're only in a time for situations of and, and, but,
Starting point is 01:21:36 just, I'm, I said, no, won't do you do you're so,
Starting point is 01:21:40 always to your house, to the school, to the school, to
Starting point is 01:21:43 house. Okay. See, yeah, I took like an amadrentamintamintamint, no, and yeah, it's that day, I'm going to
Starting point is 01:21:53 do this, I don't know what I know, and it's a time and the things are quite.
Starting point is 01:22:02 The day that gets to the night, we make the the first in the house, and just
Starting point is 01:22:08 when it's the family is going to do this, I'm my quarter,
Starting point is 01:22:13 but me are going to get a bad at the
Starting point is 01:22:15 time. And when go to the first piece and I'm the
Starting point is 01:22:20 guy the car in the lot of the matronet with the
Starting point is 01:22:25 matriada. So, then then he's in that not is that
Starting point is 01:22:31 has been that maybe my Cere not my was what was
Starting point is 01:22:37 was a man was a man and I'm I keep coming into the as if
Starting point is 01:22:42 no he said we've seen we've got to we've got to contact visual but no, no me
Starting point is 01:22:46 alter I'm not the process I'm doing to go backer and I'm and when
Starting point is 01:22:51 I was the time the time was just in the door was
Starting point is 01:22:55 was cargand the and me say to to your house
Starting point is 01:22:59 to the school to the school to the house
Starting point is 01:23:03 is the the other so I so my a
Starting point is 01:23:08 I was in a night in bell. I don't do not I'm going to do with the day
Starting point is 01:23:14 next I'm had killed the 20 that I put in risk to because he
Starting point is 01:23:20 not was he was he came to me. He was me and probably he was
Starting point is 01:23:26 sitting there thinking if to do or no and that's
Starting point is 01:23:30 that was that was the day in the I think I think that if is
Starting point is 01:23:36 something there's people do that a sour and there a person
Starting point is 01:23:43 that's a that person that he took the story of the day of today. Tremendissimo, bro.
Starting point is 01:23:49 No, it's paranormal but that that when me it was like, no, me,
Starting point is 01:23:54 me exploded the the case. I mean, not, not, not all the anecdotas
Starting point is 01:23:58 that can cause that that's that's because put in the zapats
Starting point is 01:24:03 of him. I mean, it amundra the attitude and the reaction. Because I think
Starting point is 01:24:10 that I would have been a gritty, the fact to hear it or to see it,
Starting point is 01:24:16 the impression, no. What you have you did you? No, I mean, I don't,
Starting point is 01:24:21 I don't know, I don't know, I don't see if I'm going or something, but I'm sombre
Starting point is 01:24:26 a much the reaction of this person, incredible, tremendous. Not reaction practically.
Starting point is 01:24:34 Definitately. Yes. So, so is. Tell me, tell me. Fiatty, that fortunately, I don't have ever been
Starting point is 01:24:45 an experience that has to be with this indole. All have been paranormal, it's for my well,
Starting point is 01:24:53 but there are there are that they're saying, I'm more fear to a
Starting point is 01:25:00 live than a more than that I'm that actually. Yeah, And so, for that people that
Starting point is 01:25:06 people that do you always do you want to be to get the adrenaline and you like the adrenaline, and you
Starting point is 01:25:14 do this a good precautions. They're a good good because it's a little to take to go to
Starting point is 01:25:20 that you to be the you know, so take care. I, I'll just go to
Starting point is 01:25:27 I'll go ahead when you when you start to when you start. When you
Starting point is 01:25:30 this year, we're going to start with the explorations urbanas. It's
Starting point is 01:25:34 something that I'm not I'm sure that I'm going to I'm going to I'm like this I'm going to
Starting point is 01:25:39 go to get a place that I'm where I've been having experiences paranormal and not not much to not the
Starting point is 01:25:46 other places because I'm like certain certain doubts still to start with the
Starting point is 01:25:52 project of the explorations but that we have some in ports is a
Starting point is 01:25:56 actually for people like check to some some I'm going to
Starting point is 01:26:00 go to going to go and going to another friends for a doing different
Starting point is 01:26:05 cameras, to do that do a work very good and then documentate and that's whatever you
Starting point is 01:26:10 have to be that's going to be trying to this content for the channel of podcast extra normal
Starting point is 01:26:16 because much people also here in my city. There are many cities, there are much
Starting point is 01:26:22 different places that have history and that have much a lot, much character
Starting point is 01:26:27 and much activity paranormal. So, interesting. Subient. documenting. right
Starting point is 01:26:33 in these last few the two was the thing that's the thing to the sequence
Starting point is 01:26:40 that I'm the thing that's my passioned much because my first chapter
Starting point is 01:26:47 that was Jacob Greenberg I don't the idea of the why me
Starting point is 01:26:52 it was me they're you did you did it I'm exactly
Starting point is 01:26:56 exactly so eliminated so I'm Yeah. First me desmonetized
Starting point is 01:27:02 and then then I don't why. Of course Well, it was the first capital and after that
Starting point is 01:27:10 I feel like I'm sorry. You know, you're going to you're the better quality and in the audio,
Starting point is 01:27:16 nor the video. So, so, uh, I, I've, I'm a, a marathon
Starting point is 01:27:21 of capitul about the theme of the mind. I'm, the project Stargate, or other
Starting point is 01:27:28 I've talked about Jacobo Grimber I'm with me, people, psychologists, experts in the
Starting point is 01:27:33 mind, programation neurolinguistic. So for those who are the good to give us the way very much much
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Starting point is 01:27:44 content also in collaboration. The last we are stories that we have done
Starting point is 01:27:49 about about certain certain things and different people that are
Starting point is 01:27:53 great about. Tremendisim We're going to another collaboration very
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Starting point is 01:28:14 going to grab and it's going very good. So, Paco, thank you for having us accompanied
Starting point is 01:28:20 to day of day of my no, a good thank you for invitation. I'm
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