HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - ÁNGELES CAIDOS DOS

Episode Date: December 2, 2022

AL FÍN LLEGA ÁNGELES CAIDOS 2CECY ha experimentado sucesos paranormales desde su infancia, hasta el punto que durante años ha llegado a creer que algo dentro de ella no esta bien, sin embargo, después de algunos sucesos muy específicos, está comenzando a darse cuenta, que algo está tras ella, y ese algo tal vez es un ..... ÁNGELES CAÍDOS 2NOTA: este es el primer episodio que tenemos que grabarlo en dos días distintos y por este motivo, hay mucho contenido extra, que estará disponible en youtube para los miembros del canal, es necesaria la membresía, contenido exclusivo. recuerda que con esta membresía tienes acceso a todos los videos normales, pero sin anuncios.

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Angel's Cajed 2 and the day of today us accompany here in the studio, Cessie, good nights, how are you? Hello, very good, and you, Omar. Very well,

before you start to start you, I want to give you because I see that to grab the episode have succeeded I've seen things atypics and

pese a all, you've had been a badentia and the want to

come to this this is something that I'm that I'm that I'm that they're

sensible with something. They're on story. I'm here in

the studio, I'm doing I'm doing. So, so

thanks for the confidence that you are doing to these

situations that you've given, thanks for the Valentia that has

demonstrated this summer to confront us and then once you this, what you think it

if I'm a story to start. Let's go very. That story just happened when you

and you we were talking about about to come here. Okay. Me

it told a person in a in a in-vib but was a story

that was a very strange for certain that that was

that that she commented that that's the train a familiar of her he was coming in the

madrugada when the repente he was the sombra of a little or like a little

a little a little because only there was a thing that was like it was like project and it

was he gave a fear but the the way that had to continue and not

there other other other other other way to do it.

He's simply just to see like not but he did

know of a kind of he was going to he was he

he turned and he and then he he

he was and the of a small a

little a great a little he grew a

so he there but there was there was

that the So is that he started a little his head on the side of

the shadow of the sunbra passed just right of her and when she was the voice

of a woman and he said goodnars and he turned to and after

he there was a sombra gigante there was a biggat

normal vestida like me in arapos a little a bit

a human normal but when he he saw the eyes,

view a profound that not is normal in the mind of a person and he

not he a bigita a a a like he he

he he he he and he he he he

and he was that she was a light

but the little not a song now now

so so so after so after this story

for this you have seen SOMBASS. It's well, it's interesting

because I think something when, from when when, since we've started to

us, it's caused curiosity and also is part of our identity, no? And when

not it, we feel a part there, like, that's a question. Yeah,

so, so it's quite interesting. How it's is doble, how it's how it's a

how it's a child, how it's what you what can create in you. What I'm

talking about you? You know, we've talked about in times that I started I

started I from a little little little little that I don't know

to start let's be for a question I think I'm that's the more

but I'm doing paranormal totally totally totally yeah

Pese to your profession. Yes. Okay. What was the success that you did you give to say the paranormal if it's.

The first time that I took an encounter that I remember, I have borrado of my life of the nine

years to not, no, I can't remember to nothing. Of the nine years

for the there are many and about me and over this type of situations. But the first that

I was conscious was the that I was the first en-vib that put you where we

we got to a house, we're going to explore it because we're looking

to where we and when we're my men's go to the area

well to explore the area my mom to go to the house

to the table and I am the only to start to start to

me to be to me But since I was Subpoena, second or third escalon,

I started a piece of on the shoulders. I started that someone was in me. And if

the sensation was a kind of like a like a so it was not not

not quite it was something disconocid and I was a much much curiosity to

know what was saying. Volteable to be to be nobody nobody

evidentement I'm going to and this Pesadee and it's a piece of a piece of like if

someone stuously like when you want to you want to you want to that's like a badger

that part but without the protection or more more that's a abrumador oh

okay abrumor prisonado so yeah I'm prisionant I I'm

I'm I'm I'm seeing this part the house is

a Compa, we we're we're going to live there. And

time after that I never never you never did you see that every time. And every

time I went to my quarter. Every that I was in the plant

high was this sensation. When we we we're we're

we're we're we're not to socialize with the people we're

like we're not with no we're very mue

us us And in that my mom started to do things different and in those things different

that's different that's going to go to do a lot of a little and that was he used to

and I said it was and he asked you get to be another child there there's a

year of my age, a year year old this and other other other

other we're the two young we're we I'm I

don't know nine nine years was And, And, And when I'm And when she says

And he starts To say, Hey, what you need is, I'm a I'm a new I'm in the Quadre of the

So, so you to pass something, do you, your kids, no, so my mom and,

oh, well, thank, that's that's that's that's that's

in the classes and the senior, still, I'm really, is that what

needs, is that we're to serve and You count's with us And the chavita also

I'm very Oh, yeah, we're talking about and we did we're super amyas past the time I know about some 15 days

until my mom has been said and he said well because I'm just I said my thank you

and you want to you know something you know something that you say and you say

you're that maybe me I'm getting in something that no that

but but uh well we know that your your

your spouse your spouse your spouse you maltreat. My mom, like my husband, well,

so what happens that the people are that the person are and they're and the person who's

be at the time of the room, that when when he gets to your maridding, then my

papa not my papa no lived with my papa lived in saltillo because she was the

time, and I was with the time. In the moment that my papa pisaa to

the house, I said the of the person, I'm when they were

when they were to see these silhouettes. Never ever used to my father,

never agredo my mom. When I got this this woman, my mom

is that this woman, so who said, where he's where he said,

and they're going to and I don't know to be to be to be

so I know this pesed that I feel in the escalers but

I can be there. But I was I was I was a little bit of a corner,

that colinda, then one a lot of and two back, no? And I was just in the

center where they were in the center where's like it was a year to a lot of a lot of

a lot of a lot of been a feeling a a period very very hard. So I

started to listen to the yantto I said my mom oh yeah me says that's

they're going to see my mom also a two, I'm to the

two, three days of oh yes If you see He's always and is very constant

and very insistent the yent to the year of the year to the yentto was always the sombras

were when when I'm my papa um I'm going to get the back the back the back

and the same time to get the time you're yeah you're yeah you're doing you're

my mom also thinking that was she was she's never put her to find where I'm

but the yentto continued much They did there, like, like a clean of the house, benedition, etc. And it was to calmarse

of this for moments and all the time regressable. They were to make, like, benitions and all going to

goyling. In this same house, posterior to this that I'm talking, we started

that there were certain games in the plant alt. So, then of the time we'd

the jugates of my men- were- can-y- can-y- -rod- that were

on the escalarers, like if a new was playing with them, and he was doing the

disordern. The chistos or curious of the case, I go to not say

tenebroso, is that my brothers were in the house. So, there was

a certain time of year, where my papa had the last of the

time of his brothers and he was to go the ran and so

we were in that we were every year, and my brothers not were. And they were

to hearse to get some many people my mom gotro between these activities new that I said to do you

know that's she said, it was the costura. So he was to make me to make

to the lot of the and so and I started doing some I remember perfect

that we were in the court and I see where he's like but micro

I'll to be to say to to say, you I said, Cabron, that you

don't have nothing, and I'm going to you, with who you're going, you know, you know,

is that you know, my brother, I'm not my brother, I was, so I'm so I'm

a lot that's a thing, was a thing, and I'm doing many my mom

was, and you don't have to have to have to eat, you're, you're

to come, you know, then my man, I gotrava the car of cereal complete

with the galon of the leg, and she My mom, when I go, I say, to your brother, there's going,

he's doing this of point it, but he's going to be going because you know, he's going to because you know, my mom,

is that my my, my, is that my, my, he's going to say, and she said, that's,

me, I've got confused, I'm mad, me, me, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, still, I'm, still, and, and, I said,

I said, no, I don't go to the way to get to I mean, so, this, much thanks,

but for you to say, is that my court, no? Me says, is that I'm to come to us to make,

because I'm just so mrs. I'm not, I know, so, no, so, no, we get us,

we're all super well, all so all passed well, and the day, and a part of

we're going to be the various people. It was a back to the cintura to

I remember perfect that was in the stature between my two brothers, my brothers have been three years of age, and the

the new that we saw the the hair that was my brother, in that I was the oldgito, you know, lacy,

ongito, that was bled the little little the hair. I was the hair and he's,

uh, well, uh, was like, opinionated, like, like, so,

so, no, moran, more clearito. Um, this, And, oh, I mean, I could say that's my armour.

Like, my mom, how did he say, I would have thought of the same. Okay, but if I had a difference with your brother? Yes, yeah, yeah. It was a new year totally different, but if you'd be it

to be a re-oho. Yeah. It's there, no? It was like, it was like, it was very easy to think that could be any of those two.

And the game still with the the game, but apart, he was to do do a lot to do much to play with

the time. So, of a time we'd get to be able the part of

the part of the way super rapid, passito chitio he'd get to the

back the water, I was the tank of the water and he was to do you

and get to the other back to then I then it was a lot of

time to do a lot of and other other thing to do do the

carritos of my carritos of my mom had Tina then

those was I just disliked by the way it's a carrito that's

a lot of it's a little bit of because those guys they're in the tina and they're

and they're and they're not, but it they were they're a little there's

a border where it's where it's it's you're you're to have got to

the carito so it's much people to know to be one a little

a little a little to get over to do because my brothers out of

a leon to do you know what I know I'm a lot of a lot of I'm

know I'm to see to see to very times for you I'm in the thing to get the

right up about down totally transparent no there was that you

didn't you know that you see that something there was simply not there

no there was I'm really a lot I'm really a

so all the sensation with all I'm like really

never was like I mean, I always like, I'm trying to ask you to

get a problem another one to do you do you do you're in a but in the moment

she had to getcha or so always when she was always when she was you're

like you see you see you see that the same or if you're in the camera

it was where she was in the feet and you get to up the up

or from to be up or to when you when you when you was

he's he was not you could have. And so it was like the first that I

took a encounter with with something something. Something inexplicable. Yes. The

little, the new, I was in the only of the fact I was that you know, that we were

that we was quite that really was a really in some point because I

am a person that I'm so so so what they

always was we We're going to your ball, we're going to go to your and I'm,

I'm going to and I'm going to get to I'm a little I'm a little always always and always the and I'm

like the I'm going to to get to keep to get to keep up and I'm getting to keep up again

I'm sure I'm perfect one that's about a after I'm trapeando and he

and he's the sound of the the stuff I'm to get to talk to be to

yeah for this I'm saying that I I'm going to I'm going to I remember that I'm

I'm sure I'm sure perfect what I was talking was the first that I'm to make sure to make sure

to make to get a and I'm so much that came a little and that he came

a lot and the the noise of the world does the cause to I'm

so I'm cause a and it's you're like oh my you're doing I'm just you're trying

again again again again again And I, well, how you were talking, so, and so it

was a kind of a time, it was a way that I could talk and canalize also

emotions, and I felt like I'm still in a way. The chistos with that

was that was that was a state-a- in my house, nothing more. This,

this, I've got a tia and I had a my primita, so it's that we're

that we're we've been in country and nothing We're about where we We're going to

We're going to And they're in And this is that It's not It's that it's That's that Isgatcha Or so we're

We're saying The demadre That's over And so it's That's what My mom Sub-up But you're

But you're So, I'm not So, I'm my Prima Baja With the

Yeah With the It's Mappado And it's That's that And the It's just

They're moving So they're All right Just And so So I got my tia to the work and they're

They're in The house No Two days After we're And it's What did you How did you?

How did you? I'm That's that chingadera She came With us? How? That's what So,

well, I've been been super calm in the house She said She said

That's The same The same. The same. The factiast of the Baxter So it

started And in a moment He said I was with one of the that's that's

that was going to the limpeas they were doing a little bit because of the times that's like the can't be

like the door of the other and more more attention in that the type of details

and he says she's doing the she's she's like so no then so she agate

and I and I and I say to the she's I'm she's

sheora this, I'm this, I'm my Tia and there's

the bottle of refreshment, suspended in the air like in the kind of inclinate totally, no. My Tia

entered in chaos to say, to say, we're in the house, and it's what you? So,

how is this, what is this? What's the thing? We're going to visit it and curiousamente to my

house. So, for him, I think that it was a game, totally.

In some point he gets a a stardote, because if not really

to give to the situation, to me aterrava to her we learned to

to convivier with this part and I the first thing is they're going to do you know, no, no,

do not, no, no. They're in a little used. So, says my mom, of actually see,

I said, I was, uh, for a colony and there a vent of garage. So, one's

a year's I was doing of things, and I know why me attention, a balance of those

in those you put in those the figureas like the figureas like those as you're like those like those

a piece. One piece of course. This, this is not it was something that I would

have been never and I got me I got and it's that's that is that

is that in the salte. And if since then it started this movement.

So the sacerdote what was was that was that the the

or that they've to transcend. They're like very connected to an artifact with the thing they're

so much. So, very probably he's really probably he said, he said, no,

they say, not they're really, when it's a little that's what the thing we're

the dween. He's the dween, it's like it's, this, nomo, this figureita little,

and the more, are these are these are these are being put in a

space and they're they're they're they're they're But no absolutely

nothing. So, yeah, that was like the first encounter that I'm

the first experience that was like connected to one or another first this

this and then after the and then then get more to the

house and they're changing the and it's to be

very very sombrio with much fear to to

we we we even to use to do

the chame with the woman says that the pesadess?

The pesad is I I think that could do it is the same that's a okay

not necessarily not necessarily the same no I'm not sure I'm sure I'm saying that

were many years in what those things but I had this sense

in the house and I the woman was a little

to the so so so not you don't say to it's

something was something was something I I think. Nobody

of you nobody of your family or not you know, I know to get a one of the

woman? No. Any of a little the point of the can't? I'm always.

I'm the same. But the the people were in my house, I was

the I'm not different. But the but the but the but the person of

the front, I'm the person of the front is the that was the was like

the the and the of the mess of the of the and was the

thing that my mom was the when he was when he was because he had got to

this man, he said he said that every my mom my mom my papa

he started to see that and he had to the times and he was

so obviously something something something because we're sometimes months after

we're we're we're not we're the part of the person that

us We had a woman divorceded, he was a little, and time before we had

the house, he's out of the house, we don't understand why, but it was so said it

and then the thing to the house, we're in the parents, we're a relationship with him,

and he gets to get to the invitation of his little so when he's oh, what on

and what new that's, my mom starts to say, and says, but my my

mother's that my man, he said, the I did a Chism, and all the

people think that he's going and he's like, you too too? He's like, I'm like

you? I said, you know, I'm not I'm going to live here here? Yeah,

so it's, because two, three years after, when I went to go to back,

and I'm going to get to see, that I'm to get to the house and they start,

and they're to get them to get to the car to to the so, so I'm

go voluntarily and I'm I mean, I live solo, no I'm doing a woman like to get a woman like to help her. So, it's like

no, I want to get problems with the family, I'm here with the ex and the other like, I'm,

I'm going to go and then the story is repute with my father. Nobody was there was a

househ yeah, I mean, so nobody, I said, what they said, the, the bestine

the person, the, the person, the person, never saw, the figures as like

he'd like the sombras a time. You know you know that's that's not

you know that's yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

he's really tracalucid ever. Yeah, yeah, had the movement around and

down, he was that was that movement so, so when you,

you know, you know, you're doing it was, you know, you know, so,

so, I said, he, like, a, yeah, a yeah,

okay, never didn't to feel fear? Never. Never. Anyone

did you know about to your tia? Well, nothing more to my tia,

because she did it be there something. Nobody me said, I'm going to to care of

four. I'm going to to be a three, not a four, so it was a

really a lot of the she was the girl, but the she was when my father's

when my father's that were in the back of my father's, and I you'd

I'm used to I'm In the filos of the side and see the where my my tithe

he's going to and he's like I'm thinking that my brother, he's thinking that my brother

not going to go to go to the park no, Blanca also yeah and she yeah and she

yeah, and she was the same. The same the same. No, no,

no, no. And anyone your mom the first that was that was the first that was

doing a travisura but not he saw the regoho, never volted totally to see the

movement this that you say, even I'm the little he was, I'm going to this part of

we're like we we're going to see right. And when the father came, the first

when they're in the other things and do you the woman and the pesadence or only

the woman or just the person? What? I think only the I never about the

I never said. Like it was a very me. I never I've expused

because I I'm I'm sure I'm trying like the logic to do you I'm trying I'm trying

the mind of the people and then this is this no can't be this this is

not you're I'm always I'm like to you're to get in the so

then so it like I'm like I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm always a person I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm Before, not expressable. The pesadess, the sentias in some in the place,

or in all the house? You know, I'm going to get to be a tethrico. In the plant alta,

it was sentia, but it was disperseable. In the escalas, I was the I was on the

you know, the point in that you're about the careras? Or, contrary? The

escalers are to be the front of the house. So, you were to the door

to the side, there was a and there And the patio, so that was that was about the entry.

And the patio is the part of the back of and the extreme, so you know, so I was to get the

and the extreme where I was called, it was back, right, you're you're doing those

what you're that you were the end upending? No, no, none. It was

because they're going to say to be a local, so. Okay, okay.

How many how many, how many, how many, 10 years probably 10 years After that No, no

No, no No, no 7 7, maybe Okay. When he's another

father or the father or the second and he Salre the he says the balance Yeah

He does And he does not In general to the house But he he's

He's He's got to To be to the object Nobody Nobody he

Nobody he He didn't No, and No, the Obet No, he What did? What?

What did? What? they're not not I don't know. The balance yeah not went to

it's a house or or somebody's or they're going to or they're going and then and then you're never in the new

and those other yeah no longer. and the new yearn't that's new yearn't. okay, if it was a great, no, don't know,

Tampo. Okay, okay. There are like what is this house that that's a that's

their own or their own own history and that when they're objects or certain

peculiarities start more things there are here in Montreye there there's

so and in special I want to tell to a school a school

there in Muntary. have already years and it's a little more. This school is a school is a

school that many people know this and during generations, even the abelos of many

were there because he went to a internado. In this school, I've told stories

of people that have been and have been and it's and that's

a thing that a time to come to come a experience

someone in the people I know that I know that I don't know where it is.

Me he's a private the name and if it's the place. Then I ask you,

you know, and he's stories and me says, in this he said, and a day, standing she in the

primary, he begins to play as condidas with a group of her she was

to be to be to be to the other chicas to look her,

was and he met you justly in the door of the of the one of our invitation

our she's in that door and in that door and it said that there was a

very much that was that she was going to be there she were to get to

get her and she was going to get her going to that portita she met

in that sun that had light and I heard the kids were the

other but evadian that they were not even they're saying that that zone

she seemed a vibra very pesable. She was a she was

and she and then when it when it's in the area

there's the sun to be the sunbr but that the

sunbr he makes feel much fear and it's that

is the a sombra of a person, but that not is a person. Only is the sombra. And not is a a sombra projected. It's like if the person were a sombra.

It's like to start to her, and she starts and shears to rest. And every bit more fear, until that of a sudden, you know, she doesn't fear, and, all abridus, yeah no, there. And

never again to get to get to other way to the door. And then it's what has Well, well, at a part of these stories that I talk about,

I'm going to start things. The only time in that time that I gave to see this little was this

but all the other other occasions were sensations. I was I was to say, if there were

women, if there were women, if they were young, if they were enoged, if

and it's that's you refer you do you do you do you know,

I don't say to say that's not it's not there are sensations, there are presences there are

presences, uh a sometimes a part of the sensation I could create a

image not that I didn't know that I think I'm in your mind?

In your mind? When I go to a case a case I present

a group of I'm friends. I've I've been a little time. I'm

very chiquita I'm going to, I want to be this type of things, I'mpe in the chorus and

the so a part of it I know I'm not when I when I go to

be a leader of one of these groups I know to those people with I did some

good amistat is when I start a more. Before I was too much

more. And one of these chas me She has been with She was a lot with the group of friends of her her mom

that were they were than they So, so I started in this group and it

was after my parents did my before me was like a fugue of all these emotions

negative and the carg that you're the of all the situation that's

to be to be and I remember that the the place of a

of these chas. The first time I I'm going to the car. And where I'm going to enter the first that is to the

balcony. There was a balcony to the front of the house. And it's there where I'm that I'm

to create images because I know I know it's a I mean. It was like a sensation. I said,

there's a senior, a bigita. And me was the sensation of when before

they were to get to the balcones or the terraces or so to fumar. That sensation, like,

asconded, but like, nobody would be there, but to go. That's the first thing. I get,

we're always, the point of reunion was the cochera of the house, and we put our own, in their rio

and all the whole, all over, and we're all over, and we're so I'm sorry, and I'm

just a lot of other precedences. But no it was more nothing, they were, like sombr, somras,

somras, there I I got to identify to three that I am I'm to put like

this is the the woman in the cell you're you're in Mitra's

who has lived in Mitras who know that the casas are like a

shorichito to are so long so so so I'm

almost always of the first there in the passio to

a side always always was like was a

and a me me me called also in the cell that

there was a old a man of a but I know I'm

I'm like a old I'm in a I'm a somberer

like a sunb sitting sitting in the place every every

I was in the same zone they're like static for

locality and the other that I was a little in the

a of visitas, you entervas and that's not me. That's if she was to get a

little that the house. They'd get a much to get to the bayon. So, we're going

to be to come back. And I'm going to me to come back. I'm in the bathroom. No,

no, no, I know the sense. And I always I'm always that in a bado of

visitas in a first piece there, usually the regular. Usually the area where

are in the area where are the quarters were up on the one that's a

ragadera and was a big over the carterina I'm I'm in a panic

horrible but my panic was a through, or after the carton and I

said if I go to find a and I put a figure of a figure of a

I'm I'm imagine, me I'm imagine very similar to the

the little the movie of the work you you're

you that figure? In that that style but she was very enoged. I mean

I was the idea of that if I had gone to see I'm going to be in and the person that entered that way to say

that's that's a thing, but I'm that's a little, I'm just that's like a

a little of her always like a little when I when I when I came to

the house he's the duke the duke and what how on how I said,

I said, I said, I was to sound very rare. Yeah, one once that's

to sound very rare you're as a kind of a thing, no, no,

is, and he said, what's the boyita fell off here. And so

me, and he said, like, because he's, because, he's

a person, I'm, but is that's there, there's that there's

there, and the way, and the I'm, I'm, the way, a

can't, black, and there's a cigar and I feel like with a bluson, like a baton, those that use in

the abelitas, floored, I remember that was floried in colors pastels. And it's me cajending, what rollo you

I'm going to I'm going to be very rare. Me says, I'm just, I'm just, I'm just, but not

to get to the area of the above, that's where I'm he says, that's this is this is this is

the lady she's, that's the woman, I don't have to be and she's my abuelita

I'm my godliecy here yeah, where you see? And I'm in this

balcony, you know, I said, the pleita always was that that's, that's that's

to be in to smoke that's that's a room there's the room there's the

first and there's the room of it and I okay and so me caj

you know, so you never you've been to and you and it's more rare

in the room there's a in the bathroom in the and you know and you

know, seven people more about you're so, so I got very very

impressioned because I did much details of this part but I never I never

did like it was like a certain and a certain and I know

I like you to create the image? No, I don't idea.

Concentrater in what you see, to give you. It was like, I mean, I said, I said,

the sensation just, and I was I could say, I'm doing, if it was a lot, if I was a

part of that I, I could be going to other other other other side,

and in my mind was to start to start a photograph. Okay. There,

there, there, there, there, a, conceptos. The first is the scopaesthesia, which is the sensation

that you are in the nucca. When you see that someone you're seeing that you're seeing that the other is the

nocioception propioception. The propioception is the perception that we're of our own if we're we're doing

if we're talking to the labors, we do it, etc. When you says that you're

in some zone of your body or it was what it was not it was it was for

zones of areas so I was I was I was okay it's like when you

when you see when you're that's like energy calor corporal or was

different no because even when they were to be a realdad more yeah

but but it dependia much like of the state animic

in that I was I was I know to I think to you know

I think a I mean I know I mean when I chile and she's the cigar

in the in the ballcon the little she's like energy different. And energies

with the energies of stows of the energy? Yeah. The

kind of like that energy? Like Triste. Yeah. Okay, okay. You know,

you know, like a question abandoned of those that they're They're

waiting that they're going to They're like, that's they're like,

they're like waiting to be and they're still and they're still still.

So, you get to the house and you know, you see that the same

so I think, but with you're getting to you're in many times there's a

time, the distance, no effected a lot, so the more you more you more

you're more specific. The distance I can give like a reference but standing the place is much more

more easy for me or it was much more more easy to be able to detectar how many

people or so that was that was you were in your house of your friend?

No, me was in many different there's there there's

in those in those in those that not there yeah so it

was that was that was that with me with with for

nothing. You took to get to get to see that in centers commerciales?

No. I think the part of distracter my mind also with certain

things I'm to be not to be not a not that's

I'm yeah, but like very very isolated of I think I think

I did a actually I went to you was manhous

and that's and there's that part like fugas you know, that's a yeah,

that's probably. That's not something that was going to cause a because, no, not you

try it not you like in this case. Like when you're a static in a

place and they're there totally. Of places publics, teatros,

hospitals, cemeteries, there are some places that's that you say, you know, not

could be just for so? Where? I was, Stando in the same house

of these chas we were to buy litros and we're like the cigarette,

the beerita and all the and the talk of they're that's like that's like

that's like they're like that's like that's that I don't like to

talk this type of situations and they're to be to be that

there there there is that it's not you if it's a

if it's a cult or something. It's a religion different to the I professed. A place.

A place. A place. A religion. A faith. No? And they're that when you're

very tetic. We're going to go. No, man. To be? We're not a lot.

We're not all. What can't do you? For what? To be the same way to me

to be the house. We're just in the house. We're going to immediately. I'm going to the Cera

was, I I was the impression this place, like, like, the kind of

kind of, like, the manzana in the middle is a little there's a place,

so, of this way. So I go to the banqueta, there's the patio,

and me a light, the view to a window. And the only that I

can't identify is a presence very obscure, a a sombra very

great, form a humanoid, but not an human this question like a,

like a, like a but more like a goma, or so it's like like something, it's like, something,

so, not a person in a single. And I I remember perfect that me halla the and I

start, like, no, I mean it's not saying because never move, no verbalize,

no, and apart it's a distance very, very great. But I can't

to hear to say, go let's see of here. What have to be doing here? No,

you know, nothing to be doing here. Not you. To be in me. Uh-huh.

You said, I'll say, no me going to go to do, not I'm going to do, I'm doing

not, you're doing you're saying to do you know I'm going to be. But I don't,

I'm going to go to because valiant, it was like, I'm, you know,

you're going to be, you know, you're going to, I'm always been very, very,

of the toro, but with you and with I'm so I'm so I'm that I'm that I'm

that I'm you know I'm going to you know I'm in well I'm I'm going to like I'm

like I'm I'm going to I'm going to go so so you know yeah we know what I'm

no see what we're we're we're not we're when I go to we're

we're going to we're to get I'm going to I'm a pina colad or not for the

style. It was a very very digerable, something that not, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, I'm a perfect that I got a

no, and I'm, you know, and I'm, so I'm, so I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm aghach, I'm, I'm, I'm, the, there's, that's a figure in

the door of the house, I'm, I'm, I'm, a cochera, and pegged to

the door, but, like, you mentioned about, a, ago, of a dead

doubleada, so, enormous. So I was that overpassed to the and it's a doglaw.

And I saw only those eyes very profound and a smile and a smile,

like saying, no, no? I mean, here I'm, so I'm kept without, I mean,

I was felt immobilized. In that moment, me did much fear because I felt immobilized

and I never had been seen so. And it was like, I'm I'm,

I'm I want to say what I'm doing and I can't. I mean, I can't emit a sound and I'm not I'm able to move. I'm concerned

much to try to desvian the mind, I'm not to find out of and where I went to the other side and I'm

so, so it's clas and it's back on the front and I'm going to you're right. You know,

you said. Yeah. So, it was like much the intent that I was doing, no,

so how much time, maybe were very little very brief, but I got all the people

that's there's I'm about this she's a a little I'm a little

I'm a he's got to you know yeah so you so you she's up and she

she said I don't I'm remember that I'm I'm gonna say I'm gonna

I'm gonna I'm gonna that I'm that I'm that's that I'm that I'm that's

that I'm not you let's okay I'm I'm so I'm She desbanese the figure

Sulto the litro I gotcha, me caught all the what's the what you're I'm saying to say to this chava

and the chava she was like she was she was super me too and I had more than that me

had happened things this of the I'm also that I'm with his oldit

this I'll I'll I'm so the only that was for for

for accompany me to you know I'm so accompany me or so

accompany me the banion. I was like, I need to move me to move me to move up to do another way,

I need to get to be in the thing to be, like I'm at the space to be like that I'm like, you're like,

I'm in for solidarity, but the net I have a chino of me, I'm he's a door of year,

and I was from the outside of you're doing to come to me so I'm so I'm so, I'm so,

intention of being a my time I made a fear of you know I'm sure I'm sure

with you don't know about the sombras and the things that that that's overshel

a little and the first time that I got to I'm there's that you

don't want to be to be to be to be to be this this place

this you know to do you do you do you know no I don't have

ever has been pass for there? No. No. My intention

I have. Okay. Very very. The voice that this presence

was this was in your or in your mind? In my mind. In your mind?

The voice of the woman? The of the man? So, you're

a voice gross? Grueza? Grueza, guttural. Gutural? Yeah. So,

like a phantasmagica? Yes, like a echo. Like an echo. Okay, okay.

So, no a person talking you sound like it's

like it was in a retumbe you're I'm in you're saying you're

so I'm like that you're in both you're in both you're in my

mind or so not in my head when he when he when he

comes in the house you even she's I'm I'm

not you know I'm the so that's so you that's

so that's that you eris to you You'd say

I'm immobilized. That's the question immobilize is a doubt. The fear was that you kept elated.

I think he he never to get him to get him. I meanchable that I was that I was to see it.

When I I'd get to move me it's reey more. No, I'm gonna do you

and I'm gonna try to no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, because in the paralysis of the suno, the eyes the

soos you can't move. Here, the the eyes,

you cost to much. Much. What was the need to do? What was the thing?

I think it was more than he had a permit to say, look, look, not true.

You know, this part like burlona. In a certain way, he had then control over your

mind and your body. Because then you do you have a type of

lapsus. Yes, well, I see, I don't, never has passed and not

never had been to say to because it was the only occasion

that I get to to get to Respirate. To some way, in this question like control, sent you

that he, of some he'd, or there a part of your body, where you felt that he

had a kind of, I was all, I was, so, no, there was a way that

I was, I was, like, like, like, like if you had disconnecteded

the body, or like if the person had in a type of a

type of a made of in the that not you don't make

to like simply paralyzed, I mean, not you know, not, not, no, no,

no, no, no, all you're, not, all around, everything, and it was, I need,

I mean, I mean, I mean, there, obviously, there was, there's, there's,

that's, because I'm, like, reaction, what's, what's, what's, but,

but I, I know that I'm to know to be a, I'm a,

there, there, no, there no, okay. this sombra in another moment you have the

sensation to have ever to feel no I think I that I'm that I'm never

and I'm never so it was just it was to be a person to use to say

yeah to say because to say that's okay that's that

that's the situation that considererer you a not a not

totally malvada yeah malvada yeah yeah yeah yeah

for the first I was that I that was, that's, apart of the

little, but the I felt I the protection with a curtain and there was a protection,

I mean, I was, transgretio totally. Okay. And, and the the

woman, he had more more than that was that's, yeah. Okay.

Okay. The new was a fullia. But he was like, a me to come

to say, like, a question of a question of a question of the of power

is. Yes. So, intelligence active. Yeah. Okay. Okay.

Okay. the form in that he was he was he'd be and disappear he disappeared so he

so he moved and you he was like plasticoso in that or temple or whatever so in the house

it was like but you but I said that's it was equal double his and so and it

was extended so he was to so I'm so I remember that my mirada was

to be up totally and I don't I can't I can get to the

and and that not, no, no, no, no, all a nido, but I don't never , but I used

a form of humanoid. It's a humanoid in the school. The humanoid I think are like the factions that I

did, you see factions like a like a like, okay, and were like a

similar to a rostro um, barbilla, mehillas, then it was like it was like it was like, it was like,

okay, no, when you said that crecied you, what? You know, like the color?

A tonteria, but you've seen this video of Shakira and Alejandro Sanson where it's like

like petrolio or something like that's like that's like a like a likeity and obscured.

Like liquid and obscure it's like it's like it can be and it could say

that's totally But it's like if stuiering something that's being something in two states of the material the same time solid and the same

liquid, like if there was a type of cap that is... Solid and it's currier... And liquid. Okay. Yes, yes, so.

Okay. Translucid or something. No. Nothing. No. But no. But no. But no.

And was it was over the techo above of the people. Nobody perceived nothing. Nobody would

nobody nobody and you're the you're the so all you're all right

all right after you after you go to you're going to see a yeah she

she she she never she never she moved she never no so no in a

no no but preferia the terror that that's what I've

felt that that what I've sent to be after after in your

in some you've you've you've you have been a

apart of Centros commercial. There's some that you think you think you

think that especially accumulate these presences? Well, I think what everyone

would think a cemetery a panteon definitely is a a car

very difficult. For a to a level personal yeah has been a

past? I have I'm I'm past you and it's a rapidito and the pieces

that you have been to be because I've been much compromise to accompany

to the family to enterer to the point, but I intend to

or because it's someone very very much. Just and for coincidence,

before to prepare this episode, before the fact, that we had done a story

and people very very very much, and I've had been been

several times, and the really had been very to be

a but they were many years in the time, and I

have before I I'm in them and they told them

a story that that I gave a lot of in a house in Monterey

that's a house very an old. The new new

inclinos had years had a little and they were a

good and they were but with the past of the time

there began to occur two things the first

is that the the husband, that's a matrimonial, in a certain place of the house, very specific, and of a sudden, he'd like a aroma to a perfume. No, something bad, no, something else

a good, no, something else. And they're in a radio very specific, like a meter and a half to every side, nothing else. Commence to look, if some, a person out of the house, some of the house, or something to docent to do something.

Or something to do something. It's a fragance. No he's nothing. Pass the time and he's

top with the old one of the person that's that's many-tantos years.

So, he said, I want to ask to ask you something. Me has been

something something. And he says, the perfume. And then then he's the

perfume of a man, you also do you dole? I'm I'm and no

discovered that nothing has but you pass too the side of and the

kitchen and it's it's not not more it's not more. But it was a

time and then it so it was a house had a story that

not they know they make a remodelation they

make a second and a third plant in the house everything

all that was that changed and it was

a And now the house was a quite more amplia, much more more beautiful, with some with some details

because they had made with much carino and it was a thing that had done to do you

to do it and it was to do you the house of the family. The little,

the new had given his point of view of how created his

and they had respected the idea. The house had a lot and it was

a lot of a house that was very The papas were sentientiering strange when when they started to see that the little bit of their quarter and the quarter of them, the days that there were

and the rainerlamp. Les Vina was a idea very rapid. And the idea was, well, it's like, as it's a lot, it's a bit of the resplandor, and that's what he causes fear. Then, then the trueno, the sound, and that's a repulose.

Well, we'll to revise. If you're that's the fear that's manifesting the is a

fear of irrational but almost incontrollable and not more is just to not to be a thought of

to be fatale and gritty in euphoria in euphoria exactly but the state euphoric

no they're nothing that really it really they're no it's a

more more than the the truenoes no present a kind of

continuity in these emotions, and in that this kind of to be very strange.

And after the experience of the perfume, the mama decided to ask to ask a

about the house that know, the people are people who are people are

very entered in years that have been that the

initial of they're going to be, they're then then I said,

and then When I came with the first new the new one the one says that doesn't know

the history of your house and he he said what is the story and she's I don't

I'm I'm I'm but the woman that is just on the side of

your house she she is she is she's she's because the

first she's she's she she's she she makes very

very extra that you're so much that you're so much in the days of

the day of the situation. No, they were about about about the exactly.

When he said, tell me what said, tell me what said in that that case, they were a

man. This am I said, percibe things. He has passed so

things to the long of her life that she prefer to live in places

very isolated where not never when he called she was she was

that she decided to assist her to go to the house and he said

no you don't be so there no there

no there so soces very so so so

they coincidences, but there are these type of sensibility that in many cases know that probably not be a type of coincidence. What's the other than what you have passed?

So, right that you're talking of children, I don't know if I'm like, they're in apegated, but I think I've had been, like, various stories with, with, kids.

And, and, after years, when I was studying, precisely, it's a partura a

new a new a pharmacy, no? And the pharmacy was a

a franchise that was a little bit in Monterey and I was there a part consulta

but it was like idea new in that kind of not like the pharmacies

allas they're like so you can get a cartant

that consult a and we we had a pharmacy integral so we had a

medical dental psychological so it's so it's so it's like all this process

and it is front to the Alameda yeah yeah you you know

you know you know you some of those zones very biggitas with a lot of that can

have that can't think to be able to find the Alameda can you can

put in a Michigan a lot of a one of two three locales to the right

there's a building there is that are that are not

in the part of the we we the pharmacy

in on a costado they were in the manner independent

at through a passillo. In the part of the back we rentable for casets telephonicas for that the people who were in the time and could be able to be able to

where they'd and them. And in front, rentab us a space also in the banquetta for these carritos that vending dulces Mexicanos. I'm going to the school, I always went to the administration. I was working there with them. So, I was in the

the hour of the time, I'd verify it, I'm also, I'm also there's a kind of,

I'm a business with a secretary of the doctorate to the whole. I'm prepared

the what I could to be to be there. But in the spaces of consultorios,

I'm a woman, a woman a woman is a little enojated but

no, no, no, there was that me gave a sort of some

maybe never never invadio. And in the part of the where I said there was a casetas there was a

stationament also. In the stationament I felt the presence of a man.

If you had to be to describe you, maybe a little a year 10,

11 years entering to the adolescence pre-curted no see. But he

he not he was he was he was so he was like he was

like a A little bully. A manu'll see. A certain maldazita. Yeah, I mean, I want to be like molending. I mean, I'm going to seepas that here's that part. With this new year, what

was what I remember much that I'd try my first car. It's that Ike a newon in that then when I was when I was sentia more It was more every day, but when I was

more and I was to ignore it, he was when I was going to go to my house, I'd go to

feel in the ascent, in the respond of the ascent, like when you're in a child that's a

little bit of my body was moving, it was I was going to be a nobody, but I was

I was he was he was so many sometimes he went to to go to

me still in the way. You had any way to stop no.

No. No. No, no. No, with him was to go, so,

I'm going to get to go to go to your car. So, in the way,

to the house, I was, I was, I'm going, energy tranquilla, what I

had to have to pass in my house, but not was, he never went to

me he never to be and then. And then you You're going to

work and you're still stigando? No, it was always the voyage of my house. None more.

Yeah. So, of my house to the job, never never never.

You never had people in the car that they were to be your own? Yeah. And in

some moment, how many years? And so, we're in that's the time, probably

intending with the business until you did that and at the final of

the three years there was some moment in that you know the

time? You know, it's it or it's a constant? Until the

last time. I'm never, never. Yeah, never. Yeah. Never.

No, not. No, investigues, that, I know. Yeah, I mean,

there were offices and that was, something about a woman, but well,

was, of a of a man, never. Okay. Just in the

center of Monterey, or the area of Morel, there a Tienda of Roppa

very known. He has many Pissus. Yeah. Yes. In that

Tienda, many of those of who have worked in the history of Honda.

That they called Remirin. Ramirin was an something that was a thing that was molestable.

Ramar had various games in one of the games that most he was that when only

only was that person and was in the almason he had the caja most improbable

that the caller to the final of the caras and I had to

recorriacies ridiculous a Ramirin Hunter he he used to tombar that's

the more difficult but also also has a other another

quite as more it's more well affect the other

that is that He's back the sotan, it has another for those that are the third piece. You know that

there are a area of and they're a one of the first vestidor not the first. That vestidor,

although there's nobody, it's a door and it's put the secure so. And if

the people get to get to open, something they're going to get to even when

when it's totally basic. The The third of the world of it is that if is

the only person in the third piece during some moment of the

time, the lights are going to start to be a place. It's a building.

All we could we believe that's a failure that's a problem of cableated.

The problem is that the light is and it is up and the

switch and it's sometimes you're in the time if you are the

only person that that's you can occur but there was

something that disconcerted to all the one day had

occurred a torment electric a very and had

some the probability the the cause the cause

not that not because that day no one

there there was a group great of people

people people and decided they decided to change

a time to change of the radio they're not the radio. They're

10 radios in that place. And the radio sounds. And he begins to talk the voice like

of a boy. And then he says, hello, I'm Hunter. Let's want to give a

excuse for that, I was that came here, I was tumbled, and I didn't

I'm and I think the she's the question, that's the head was the person,

she says, and the jeffa and the chief he says it's your companyer the guy

he's he's got he's he's he's so he's he's

he's so he and he and he and he things that they're he's

he's when he's he's he's he's he's he's he's the

he's the person is the thing is the thing is he's then then he's there's

the They're They're looking for camera And, they're They're in the time

They're in the radio And they still soning the voice of a boy of a talking about

and they're and they're they're because they They're to start to hear She's

They're they're to make a radio and start to in an order

different if someone if someone to be a other radio of a Rode RONDA

If it would have connected to the frequency Exactly. When they're to

go to get to the third piece and the light and start to get a and they're

there's there's a there's there's a little three days after this she said

this chica did a rune because he's that's not a on that

she's in that his friendero she was with her because he's

that's that's there's there's there there's there's there

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what what what what is what what what what

you what what What on? How manages that part? Me, you're asking to me, Omar? I'm, yeah. I'm reflecting, because I've talked to you, that I've had been certain contacts where they've communicated with me.

But these communications, in some way, is like a message. I mean, it's a lot of, right that you're talking about you, I'm talking about something that's that's being able to be able to, no? That's it's getting to this part. the communications that I've

seen have done with going to go more than that's like messages tranquilisdor but I talk about

that when receives that when you receive this type of transmit the sensations of a responsibility tremendous

because not you know if you really you're not or if you you're going to give a

false idea a false hope, Fals, or... Fals, Esperanza, et cetera, no?

Platico that this am I, a little that's a little bit that's a little

in this group, we've got to be very very very far as for much time,

not we're like the we're like we're the time, his abelian, so a other moment,

that I'm a new, he's hospitalized, and it's, in the hospital, and in the

in some moment she she's yeah the family is the family is thinking

in disconnecting and the so I'm not the people are that we're not human

possible for him so I'm really of the stress I'm very angstated

so no well you can say absolutely nothing just

that's a cycle of life let's let's let's let's

let's give to you take to your family et cetera pass

those days, no so and in a I can't I'm to

use to work in a place I never go. The bad I'm

like you always like a person more like a tumultus. In the

I'm in the sun I know the first quadrant of the city

I remember perfect that in the sunio I see the car

maria this that identifies the part the part of

the pulga me go by the car and where

I go going the car I go a a

I'm a shirt I don't know so color, no see, like a coffee, but I'd all about all a turetiecita

saco more obscure, like the pantalone, a chapatito and I a baston but all the

time the baston he was playing like in the air when I when I'm immediately

I identify I don't know that's the abuel of this person thing I know

the I know the I'm a and it's a a good I'm doing the same the year

he's doing to be in the hospital so I'm so I'm going to put very bad so I'm going to

I'm saying I'm saying you're who's who you're I'm a my aunt no

is, uh well I'm I'm just that's that I'm I'm not I'm

I'm just that's very too too that's really to you're to get but the medics

do they have to attender. We know to that's we're going to do you know. You tell to her that

not my time that we're not going to be able to me care of obviously to leave it but the

man of that I'm not there was a way to be not. But if me send us a message

that I'm that I'm that I'm not my time. We're not we're not going to the night

next. I don't know we're relatively very very frequent and I go and we We're out of She was out of

She was She was She was And he was And he's And he's That's that It's that

I'm going to Go ahead And we're To get to Super bad and then In the house Siente

Super Triste To all the And then And then You know You know I don't

So I'm So I'm So I'm This This Me Why? I mean

Dade count what you're saying he has been much time there has

been a thing we're super so I'm so you know is my phrase of the

of the thing to be that I'm saying I'm I'm gonna I'm and I'm

a message and so he's and so that's that's that's that you

come to say that you want to say that's something super

clear Oh, and what message you And then I And then I platico All the whole I've been seen In the Suey

And he said So, so it's What's That's It's not, That's Yeah,

I know There's not We can't We can't Seagando And so In the Yantra Murtain

And I And I said And I'm And it's And I'm So I'm So I'm To give

I'm Like this I'm When I I'm The Wela Cora Inro

the Cora and she's where you where you have the photo so like it

they've been put a belladorsita and so where you have the photo it has

like we we have we have to this part no just I need to see the

see the she's so she's the she's I said I said

so I said is that is that I said me he said I'm

I'm the same I was that I never had never I've seen I

the Lord, never ever I've seen no idea of the type of

I'm used commonly the person, no, and I've seen the when I said,

if I'm he's it, she's all right and the mom that's, and the message was

that's, he's like to talk about, he's, he's gonna to talk, and the time,

my friend, my my friend, and me said, milagrosament, my abolito despite,

it's, well. This, they're that they're not physical for the that they're

going to have to have to be a monitor a time, but yeah, you're going to give a really,

I'm really, I'm really, I'm much what you, I mean, I, like,

me, like, me, like, when the man, I'm more

impressionate. Because I did the detail of the of the baston. Me,

he said, when he says, when he says, the doctors are they're afferran, because

it's much time in camera, because he could have marreos, because all the situation,

to use like a and he says that he's he's not he's, he'll be a baston.

See, divina how he uses? Agitandor in the air. She'll try in the light.

I don't know if the I think I don't want to not want to assume nothing to

I don't have been with her I don't have been the condition despite but

it's a time more with her. Trares in my mind various stories. Some of

that have told to here, others that me told them in these days

and I strangely see a relationship. The hospital. A sometimes things

rare in the hospitals. I know a person that who worked

in a hospital and always has considered there person much

more more scientific than when was studying his

doctorate doctorate, he said that there were things rare. So, that there were things that

all of the voice and not they gave a importance, but also he was to look about

the explanation. I said in the hospitals, things of that they happen, and to

they're that they are there's that are that they're and that

they're and they move in the door and it's a new that

to car, he was going from the story and

it was and that that he was in many other occasions

but that especially in one occasion he occurred

something that she was not a but she

with ideas strange if not was an idea

that was in a laboratory saying with much

the the limpecies of various artifacts of crystal. They need some components very abrasive to do the limpecies. When they were doing this, she and her companions would have been in three points of the laboratory

to not have contact with any one of the chemicals of the way. In the o'id of her, they'd say in the name. And at the instant it and he's top with the

look at the other two chikas and they say, who me he said, and the other

he said who's me, and the third says who's to say, who's

what what was, they said, me said, and they said, and they all of

the ear and at the time, someone, they said, someone,

he said, you're the question, was the voice of a woman, and me said,

never me never I never asked, it's she, and how

she to feel like if needed to a little he

asked to the people she he had the voice of

a woman and I think it I'm the voice the voice that

the other the voice of the one the other the other

she noho and the other that I thought there

there three things that things that wanted to get

another another story occurred in the center of Montarray

you You have that you've seen of the Pulgar Rio. And if they were on those streets, maybe still exist a house that has the form in the entry like of the head of a lion, a lion labrado

like in a peter, a coffee roguised, very antio, type of ladrilla. And, and so near that house, very certain, there's a house

that the day of today of today, not in that in the that occurred

in the first of the things that the thing

when when someone was when there had nobody

there didn't they and they they had that

they said and they said wait and you and

always that this occurred to at the minutes

he was one one of one of the

when these people to top to pop the invite to they were they were

they were always always independently of who because I said why

your your and I said, my brother no is here my

and they were to the and they did not there there and

there in the recurried with because it was something that

year a year after a year He was when he saw when he was

a photo in one of the messes. He said, he was the he was the person who

was the father of those who had had fallen about 10 years after.

But in that same house, no just that happened.

After the father, the time, the her mom of this

person, and he took a very aggressive the doctors, for

most that Intentaron and also in this time no they had much to do you know they're not doing and very rapidly they said

the major part of the time that you can with her mom no we're going to get this infer very rapidly to be a person very young

with much energy decalow and needed for the the pain that the problem that was the most part of the

time one of the one of the her children had to be at their life to be

24-7 his service while the rest of the rest of the brothers were

to be to be to be and the her and the her and the

other a time he had to a re-o to

a woman a cat all vestia of black

just in front of the man I I I

said no she was that was always the mom in that time

suffered much injectable and they had a morphine and he was a when I think I came to

help her in your transition always but it but it was a other

thing with these people and is that the figure and while

this this woman was postored some some some they

got to see and she and he and he'd the lectures

and convivia with some of the people the children not they're not sure in the moment they're

many months after just before after that partier when a when a when a

she got to she got in the he said he said to you she

she's I'm I've I've I've I've I've I've

I'm talking with she things very strange that a sometimes that

they're that they are in the center of Monterey. Cese. Something that me

really to continue with the chronology of stories that you come to share of this

commentary that you did you the initial and I'm percat there.

There stories at part of that some those that I

remember but there there there I don't have a

memory and you have some some of those

stories? Yes Well, when my mom was born out of me, my papa had three and had three jobs and I contabed with two camisas

and with two pantalones. So he'd a job, he'd, he'd, and he'd and be-a-money, she'd

and be-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-cli-a-cli-laping the robita, the conditions not were like so-comodas in that then. And in that

then, he used a mark of cosmetics. My mom never was to makeiars to much, But, you know, Cumple-Anews and other,

the most easy to regal a woman is, a perfume, a cosmetic, a bolsa, no? And they're a realal. The particularity of this

labial is that was that they're in a tarrito. So, it was a tarrido. You were a lot of and then, and I'm gonna get a,

so, then he's not so, so, no, because it's not a woman that was a woman that's

probably he did, no, probably he did, no, probably he was gonna he was, no? It was what I wasomied.

Stando to me, they're two scaloncitos in what they had a placey

to get to get to the patio where they were to get to the caroncettos were to get to

the the entrance to this story. And my mom that in those

escaloncitos in a little in a rinconcit in a rinko so a

little a little then of having called the pantalone, there was a

window in the same the same and you know, the windows have you know, like the little bit of

a bit of a piece of that's all. So, so, there was, he put it, he went,

and, he went to, all the day next, he got to my papa, to make a time,

and result that the camis that was going to put to he was a bit with the

with the labial that my mom had had per so, so that

my papa, that no manches, no I have time and I'm in my mom

that's really, you know, I'm going to let's let's have to let me get the friagely, I mean,

what's so I know what and so, and because and because they've been the little

little nobody, nobody, he said, I was with the same the other

to the time, my mom, I had lavated, the stah will be to appear

with with with a little with she said deaditos of be

and every that every two days passable and was a scale

and was a one of the same nomenclature all, all to do you know

to say to say to what was but I know that was that was that was

that was my mom she she came she came to but that's

I'm that's that's she's she's where she's put the

second money and the next the so so so

so so was so was so for so so for

so was In a moment that does a deep a problem

when I'm this is a connected because she said that was like a little

that was just when they were when they were born when they did the closet

and you see that the closet of always were like the part of the

tube where there were and then then you then you put you the

all the and my mom a little back all to do you

and in the rinkon is in the tarry the tarry abiot abiot with

the end of so so it's something so it's something that's much time

my mom and then after I don't know I know so you know I don't know that the

money was in the same scale on the same money different. I mean the same money

that was the same money that's that is one. And the other, that I see, that me I don't know,

I don't know, I don't know. I'm going to I'm going to nothing. But you know is very typical that the

people have a friend of an amoe imaginary, no? So, so they're that I started to

talk, and I was to talk, and I'm to come in, and I was, and I was, but a

conversation logical. oh, my, my, my, I mean, I was just a little bit of I was thinking, I was just I'd say that's

because I don't understand, and it was, and it was, and it was, because, you know, I was,

I'm saying, basically, no, and no, not, you know, not you're gonna talk about,

you know, to talk to a little chikitita and to come to, then I became a new independent,

very little, and she and she said, that I always I'd say that I'd say, I'd say,

because two? Comete one, you're going to do you? It's that one is for me. It's for my my friend.

I mean, I, you know, and it was like, let me the observe, because obviously

she's just eating the house, you're going to a little bit of a little a little, a catica

to her, and said that I was I was I was, I'd a little in the,

in what is, I was, the arbor, and me sat down and I was

a lot of but I'm not you're not you're not you're not you're not you're not you're at the

house and when I was when I was when I was I said but I'm I'm doing all the time

until you get you in the house and that and so that's what I

think it was they're that? Well, is they're they're

always in my house has thought I think that this me were after this

this is the little bit of that the father said a dweend so like always the when they're

when they're when they're always that always that always that always that always you're and one

once asked you the time of those dead that they were in that labial

that were that chiquititit tito uh no they're not they're

they're they're of a baby of and the monies not not so

you appilable. My mom my mom, my mom always always they were

in the same the same and they're not in the same and they nobody

was not nobody was moving so nobody they're there and you your mom

remember this or your family your families your people your family's your

people with a anecdote more with a more no so like

like like in like always always they're like

they're a part of the Amigo Imaginariro, if it was like, well, the amiginaler

always you think about in that, you know, and what was the part of the part that never

could have like decifra what was that's all right. They never said, you know, you know,

you've said, you're always, you've referred to an amoe imaginary. The question is what I

was, what I'm something. Some of the kids, that are the to meet just to his

little to the primary, to the garden of the children of the kids.

They're as as they're atent to all the need. The first little little

they're that they do. Defendars it's they're to and

they're to be to get to get to a transition to be a

something in what she not she's just that she It's just

just in a routine of your life that has a rapid adaptation to this change.

They're that the little not suffered so much really so much and

they're also that's very sociable very socialable. All the days

I get to talk of her new friend Bavara and he said

he was he was playing in the morning with Bavara that

Bavara is very travest and that he he's and chistes and

he's questions and he's made jokes and in those that are you know, and they're going to know Bavara. So, they're going to know the garden of the children and the maestra

is a kidn't and he's a lot of Bavara. And he's he's, and he says, his little years, you know,

many times that's separate of the groups and we're talking. It's costando much this transition. A sometimes there's

stories of as cabrosas with the people there's no there was a

very quite very and the time he he's to

have to and they did to do to

a way on that they were in the person

and they did I'm there that you know I know I know what

I know I'm a blocker of my totally. I don't know I'm talking to the quarter of primary in

the way before I'm okay, before absolutely nothing, I'm just a record of a master

that I really, but I think there are much things that I'm that I've that's

you're the anecdotes of someone more like I'm more than me I'm

I remember much of her face. Of her I'm so my image.

Uh. Of. The vivencia, no. Okay. This, but, yeah. After

this this infancy, this house, the sombra, that you see,

that a certain control, the pharmacy, eventually, I'm going to get to get to

that's that's that's much more spalustance than the but what did you

in your life after what what's what you know,

what's you know a lot of a lot of a because not it's like, you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, and then it's like, something, a message,

something aterrador, but something, but I'm like, I'm like, I'm,

I'm, in the memory one of my way, I'm a day, I'm a day,

a a woman, a man, a man that I want much that I'm in the

secondaria, but we're in the church in the group that you're saying, no? So,

in some occasion, me, he said, he said to me to do with and she was very much.

And she had three hermannas, one, not was, then the , the , the

cameras were very, but there were one third, no? Um, uh, a me

to do not in the camera that is pegged to the window and she in the

camera that is in the room. In the morning. Luce of day.

So, not all the time is very important because one would be

always related with the dark the night, the the

night, the light of the day I don't do I'm not

I'm I'm I'm talking on the vent I'm like

I'm I'm I'm he'll ta, ta, ta, ta, ta, another bit. And I'm a old oldiegated. And me

said, yeah, the day's done. And I'm, Graz. She's see, I,

I, see, I'm going, and I, this, this, this, yeah, let's,

what's your preise, a, man, and, no, so, you know, is that,

he said, and me, it's a a grosseria, not said. And the truth is that I mean, I said, me, me, who? Well, I assume that your abolita, lego, your mom, no, it was.

I was, I was, he was, I was, you know, and I said, you know, me said, but the dayus is, I said, but I'm, I'm sorry, and so, and I, what happened? Me says, that, yeah,

if, did my abelita, but my abelita, no, not, not is to be able, my abelita, so muir before various years, and if eventually came and we're doing us to do the day of the same, no, when I go my mancha, you know, you're,

I'm just trying, me says, no, how were the senior? I'm just, yeah, so, yeah, so you, see, then, yeah, I'm going to the kitchen, the desaluno that we used, liquors, I never heard, in the liquidator,

a decadent, because no, it was oxidated, no, nothing, and there, no, and there, not only only only, only, only, so, and she had accustomed to her

that. Yeah, so, for her like, it was like, that's that's

that's a lot of, oh, my abel, oh, yeah, he said, and we're

really, because we said, I'm going to get to go to the house, I'm like,

and I'm not, I'm not like to reactioner or so. Okay, okay, okay.

So, so how can be so of the good, who can know if can't

have to have a other facet. Yeah, so what's situation. Figate

that are in these relato like many of of those that are in those

little details that are you need to something that's something that's a real

a liquid of a liquided a liquid of a black a

exactly a sometimes for the movies of the books

that the people start they're people are they're

that the veracity is in in the amount of the magnitude

of the event, but no, I think that's a much in relation to the irruption

with the reality. So, something so, not ever heard heard a little a liquor

that the things are not that you have taken a bigita that you describe

and is exactly a person that you know, that's a thing. And the

the humor with that he took to that's, that that's that's that's to come

to be to You go to say, and you see the I'll say the Yes, I said, you know, I was the liquid, no? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so, it's just, it's still like too much complicated to understand

what's the liquid, you know, but, but yeah, that detail of the one was the thing she was to start us always, so. So, yeah, eventually pass. Wow. No, no, no. I mean, I think

Yeah, but I think it was more the form in that she she had said, no, how, so it was like

it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like it was like it it was like, because he came with us

never said, never said to be something. Pigtel to what you plant you're doing two questions. In the plantement,

what you have mentioned many times to the family audience of this podcast that a lot of

those soceses paranormal not necessarily are aterrador the situation is that the fact that you do you get

a concert you know that's what that's what is what that's that's not in the

example that you know that you see you see a little you're doing a

little not not not nothing that nothing to

do that is something but is something is something that you

don't that is that you know what you know, the lot of the thing is like to do you

know, the caritos that's so on so, etc. So, then

in this, in the communication paranormal, it would be interesting that the people

learn to do you to what you and what you're that you generate

the fear. Because it's different when you want to a

entity that what what does that expe is

the fear. Like that some black, provoked a

fear. No necessitated I'm sure that you need to not need to be

your pure presence did that the fear so I'm doing. Yeah, well,

for me the panico more was that he could appropriate of my corporalidad

you know, you know, you have to be to be to be to be to be

to be to be something to do you do actually one of

the other of the days there was a in- a envive

a bit of a bit of a very much, you can be there's in the question about

what is your more profound? And it's that is just the

that you get the notion of your and you

you think you think that's something something that

you think you you are moving in the

because one the end it has but also there's a where I I'm going to exactly

that's that's my fear that is my fear that that is my kind of a kind of that the

power that is that that's that's that you you're the notion of what

is real you you're like in a little in a little bit but in the

world real you're at the kind of you're like a version of so it's it's Fruiter,

right? Well, is that that's all what I said. I said, I don't about these things,

because I'm for the psychiatric. Even when we were we said, well, I'm a

person of science, no? I want to see the logic to all. And in

some point I took this manual that the psychologists we're to be

for a to be to be to be a something that could be

to be to talk to say, if endire me, amarred

me because this But no, no, I don't, I'm with the criteria.

Duda. What is what is what is what's going to the stories, but

before, after these experiences, what is what you does it does it this is

a lucination, and if it's your ankles of reality, and these circumstances? You know, you know,

definitely not the alusiné. It's that when I could think that's a lucination, maybe

it's the more more to the first the same not I'm not I'm

not I'm not quite this part inconsient still still still still is there

is but there's situations that someone and me say

and it is that is that something something I know to you know

to I I'm I um one one of the

stories where I I started to to work a to start to start a disconnecter me

and this sensibility to try to try to do that in a way. Pasa

that when when I had with my family still no me independisable the

the room and I had these situations I'm in these situations, I'm going to hear

certain voices. This that you said of of a way it

like they're talking to but I hear many the same I hear many I'm not I'm

to get me to consultate this is a this is a this is a not a not is correct something

something something but these these hallucinations auditivas that I had been

like certainly always certain as the moment in the I could be more in

calm And I had paid all my occupations. So when I was kind of more more more than I'm

thinking in what I'm um were mormoyos all the time and between the mormoyos

I felt that not me they were like communication between I was I was not even

I was there was there was a single voice between the mormulos that said is that was that

was that was to say what more I'd say, I said, I said, I was in the

whole, I was going to see si. So, for me, I was a really, I was,

I'm going to go to, the actual, I'm in a consult, and I'm like, this is a

bad, no? What is? And it and it's, that one that's been, you're done this

sensation of, you're, you're getting to get to get to the camera, that's to get to

mague and you're like, yeah, I'm like, okay. Something I'm going to

in a dream profound, but I'm to feel that I'm in the

camera, I'm I'm I'm and they're they're they're they're

doing this with my my so it's this it's this feeling

and I'm doing I'm and I know the and I know

the end of my camera in the in the corner I see a

um a Like, as if you trajers a babe, that consistency blank of the vapor like intense, no? And immediately, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you know, let's relax, you know, Dormette. I'll to close the

eyes I'm to start the mormoules until I'm sorry and it doesn't know

in the morning we're doing we're little little and they're little and they're

in a little then I'm and I'm a pretyka I'm a question that me

so I'm like you feel you you're to come because it's like the I'm

asotated I'm just and there was a humo black. In those years, I don't I remember never of my dreams.

I mean, it's very rare to be so that so much so when I'm when I'm saying,

I'm going to and thenna and it's paltida, palida, palid. What do you you know?

You know, I'm saying, I'm like, you know, yes, but, but, I said,

I'm, I'm, I'm saying, no, is that, no, is that I'm not,

I'm not that I'm, that's what, that's, that's the , So, yeah, I do the hour, at the 3 of the morning.

And I remember the hour because in my bureau, I had a reloge of those digitales with numbers grand. And me say, yeah, is that I went up on the escalars, I saw that under the door.

I don't want to say nothing, because I had a man, I was like a leitou, and it was like a leighton. So I was going to do you. I said, I'd have

You've called Fumann. And I don't want to be a family and this

it's like in the cigarette, no. So I think that you're doing to

your room, but it was it's a rare that no olier. But just like you

know you you're describing a so a vapor black very

so and it was going to down to the door. So

that was that was the first that I started like I started that

can't that they can't that that's a part I mean it's a message

yeah not is a I'm not I'm you know I'm you know you talk when I'm

when when I'm when I'm well I'm was too in the church

in the church you're in a point to the sacraments

and the water and how they're saying and so we we're

so we we're we're sufficient for the but we can

do something to say, okay, and I'm I'm going to do a oration. It's a

house of, so are four pieces, but are two pieces like, the stairs

are medium pieces, not it's like the mansion of four pieces, no?

Okay. So, so I'm to get to the last, the last quarter,

I'm started, and I said, you know, you're this, this is

a we we we're we're you're and he was and he was

in every every and I'm doing just so I'm so I'm

not more there because I'm not I'm not all the quarters

I'm pass my court I think in all I do I'm

I'm so I'm something when we're we're I'm

on the last we're on the same we're going to you can't hear you know here you're

going to get we're going to get over the we're going to get a little so we're pretty well you're saying

you know so I mean I'm just that I'm like this part and I feel very very acogid

and we we're talking of that so when you when you went to you're you're

immediately was the middle the middle the middle you was up and the

door of my room is open. And no I'm going to say I'm all the

door to say to let's say it's a little bit and the minute I'm going to do you hear that's

it's a all the all that I did in my house, all, all, all,

all, so there was a current of air, no, there was there was bottles of

shampoo, you know, you know, you know, the we're just we're using, we're

one for the one for the other, for the other, and so we're a lot of bottles,

all they were a way that's there were there's there's never seen

and they're moving, and they're to go to the same. Then I'm, I'm going to I'm saying,

I'm sorry, but probably I'll forget it, the chistos is that just it was my

door and where they were going to the door still and they

still still and you know, you're back, did that did you,

did it, so, did it, no, no, and in those days

posterior? All tranquill, past time. I have a group of tias and

primas with the very much cario and we had been a good rato that we had used

and we just for the good of the play and you know that I'm very very sensible

has been of the little people that the little people that I

have been I have been I'm so it is like it's like we

know that we don't say not we're saying a minute, we know we're we're not.

We're not you but not you're not you not. And it's a lot

what's so I'm you know so you know, I'm a woman. I'm a

that's really a also. And so it's like a question and so I'm

a hour and that's the Aura and that so I'm always always

a new additional to the theme and I'm another prima

that's very devote very, very, very, very, very, very dabbota of Mary. And I think she was like her that was her own to, to get me to the church, to be in the church,

and the rest, I was trying to, I was like, I'm, I'm so much, I'm, I want that for me. So, always was like, the Diolito and the angelito,

those two voices, no, my prima is the that I, that was, like, all the curiosity, I, that she didn't want to talk of this,

because I sentia that the more more, I'd I had things. And the other that said, Che,

Cacayette, not is it. Help her. It's just it's a dynamic. And I remember that we

got to be in the little bit of my and the time and the time. So she

are going to get the time and they're like and the curiousas

and the that's that's that's there are that's not a man.

It's the day we're we're not not you're not not you're

not you're you know how is and how it's and how it's I've been a lot of

you know, it's not not, if it's a lot, then they're so they're there's

so they're there with things that yeah, that's my prima I'm not, I'm doing,

I'm doing the thing, I'm not, no, no me, you know, you know, you know,

so I'm, so I'm red and that's more, and that's if I'm going to I'm going to my time.

So I'm going to so it's a I'm going to totally negative. And it was like, I think the application no doesn't know,

I'm going to you know, is that you're that's that's I'm going to and I'm going to try. Fundo

Fondon negro, Fondon Nek Rer. I was, not it was the hour black, it was a

front of never. I was really inquieted of that conversation. This, not

not comodied with what had passed. I was very angstied.

And, and the back to this other primal that's very a woman, and I'm

a woman. All in their house are very devoted to Mary. And they're very

pegos to the church. So, then they're saying, no, man,

you put in oration to get to the house, it was a day, in those

that I'm going to be a time and I went to to be totally soar.

And when I go to my house, they're still insisting, in your point in oration, anything

you need, you know, you're doing, it's all right. The house where I talk about you what's

what's this, the reja, the cochera, subes some of the escalers to get

to the door principal. Where I go the door and the door

and I'm always, light suns prended because to not give signals of

that the house is a not. Where I go the door

is a an smell but does count that that's

impregn put putrefact horrible and in that moment

like as a little I had had put

some busines on on the I know and

I know the language that I know what they're saying not

nothing, very harmonious, very beautiful, but tenebrose. It was something you were a minute.

I mean, I was a seductor or something. It was like, what's the thing. It's not this.

In that moment I started the music more more, the songs, no music. The can't

much more more, further, and, I'm the impression that are these

old voices that I had I've heard earlier in Murmoyos. And when

I'm very desperated, I don't have passed the portal. I mean, I'm in the door of

my house. And there is where it's where it's where I'm going my image and I'm

feeling totally angustied. Me I'm seeing that I feel like a respiration,

me I'm in a attack of and in that moment I feel to vibra

my cell and my cellular always my cell always I have tried without,

so I'm of my prima, the devote, I'll contest, and I say, for favor, me says, only re-sale, mammaita Maria. Acquardate that no, that Jesus does he can't and say, and I can't.

And I'm like, for me? I mean, I was, no? I was, I was, I was I was terrified. I had a incredible. And I'm

to raise the Maria. And in, when I'm to ask her to say the Maria, the, and audio it's a no

no there's no more no I'm I'm sorry I'm doing I'm so you

do you do you do you're so I'm and I see I'm that my primas is to

start I'm I'm sure I'm I said you know I said you know

I'm saying you're he says you're doing and I'm I'm saying my momita Maria

me do you want to go to the house and I'm not, no, no, I'm going to go to go to my house, nobody will go to my house. And I'm like, relaxate, I mean, putte in oration, if you need something, I want to, because you want to keep to go to, you want to go to me? No, here me going to and here me go to.

Well, with the next reunions, he's, yeah no, they're angustying, I, de really, the best I was very bad, you, you know, you know, I've got to be able to, if I don't you, I said, I'm going to, because I came to my

house she lived at minutes of my house if I came to get to we're doing to get to

your carter so back to my mom and I'm to go to get to be very excited so I'm

put in oration to say to say to Mary I said you're you're you're

and you know, and when you say you me said and I'm yeah no I'm

there no I'm that you can give so it was like I never

you never you can't you know you can't this question of the messages,

not, that I say, that I'm going to I'm a lot of

a question, she's I'm sure to the fact that she never no,

that's you're to get to the house, the the the honor

putrefact the sound those can't you, you see,

you're a person, I was, I was, I was, I was like I

was there, I was not to get to I was in the

house, I was in the the door. But it was like... Abrumated, totally abrumated,

so I don't know me could move to the other. I mean, I'd say, this is my property, here I'm going to. Like if it's a little of something. Like if the space was over as far as

more than, more than if it was a compressed, and just were like that absolutely like that capsuleita where I'm right. So, no, there's nothing that,

no. That even I would think, and I'd be reflecting, I have thought that I'm going to enter and

the door that's the first I'm the first of the thing. Because I'm going to be in the question to

do you know, when I'm to say, when it's the when I'm when I'm a prime stationarse

and then never a door. In the the history anterior, the old,

the liquid, she, she, she, she, she, she didn't, but

I was a person, I said, not it didn't in any presence it was more

more than the really was like the little bit of the little bit of but it's the same sensation of when you've seen your presence

no no it was something for that's but I don't see too much to be the other I don't know

I was and the reaction of my amy the reales my abelita another you know

so that's that's a modora uh okay okay okay So,

that's things have some kind of ability of control. Of control.

Yeah, about, about the about the sunbra I was, you know, what I

was there was this, he was he was to be and he was to be able, and so

and I felt like to be so I was so, and it was not not it

was able to be not possible to feel to be a multitude and

a non- a no a vacio. So, the voices were

so strong so great, but it was I'm in a little when the space little bit when the

space was very great. So in a space little was a was a was a basio? Like,

yeah, like a box of a box of that's where they're so that part of you're going

you're going has been a much has been much has been a much a lot of no, well,

no, no with the the conscience of the It would be, so. Ah, but I've subied or one

has been been up on a little bit of a bit of a bit not? No, no,

not. Mediarily Alto that's able to see a city. Yeah.

And you have talked the sensation of immensity? Yes, but no,

very different. The opposite. It was a one, no, no, no,

is this? The nullo. Okay. So, could you put to putter with a

sensation of an whole, of a Baste? Well, is that never I would have

thought so but if you put it's, the way, it's a thing to get a little

little titititito to do to get a little and you need more more space so, okay,

but no there's a space for a vacuity in this case there's many things.

Adelante for before. Before this history that I've talked to

talk about And there was, and after the of the lot of the lot of the sotone of my

one of my two of my two two has been a movement of the room

and I'm the quarter to the fourth of the last the so I

was more and I'm a only. And in this quarter all the time

was like a to feel me accompanied of something. No terminated

for giving me but I'm sure. It was like a un,

I don't know really what is your intention but I know, I can see that. I don't

see that I never could define if it was a woman that was not

that was no no, no, no, no. And nothing. Yes.

It was something very very strange. For me, that I was like a accustomed to live it to do a

way. And in that quarter, in particular, at the three of the morning, I'd

be able to I'm very, I've been a time last that we've talked about, you've seen that I'm free

like a letter to yeah, impressive. Yeah. It's, I'm, I'm,

I'm sorry, so I nocturna I'm more, I'm more creative I'm much

much things and I'm my head's always always still I'm not so much

so I'm think you I'm started I'm going to feel I'm going to I'm

to hear a passos in the techo this this is a fourth

piece is no there was there only the floor and here

the techo and the other piece was something that was in a whole structure of the form of

the way of the way to get there. Tendrace you'd have to use escaleras of those super altisimas and barnes

maybe to be to be there to be a because apart there was there was a alberka there was so

that was so it was so much that's the night the three of the morning the

and risses and I start to start many three of the three of

the morning in this fear that me of the a grubla of

the triad of the trinidad, because at the 3 of the morning, etc. I'm to force to to dormit to and I'm

with my lot of and I'm got to do with and the more more time to and that this you know not captained my

attention, I'm still doing I'm I'm done. Well, I was I'm

and at the three of the morning me had all the Risa, the passos, carcachas,

burlona, rasguing in the techo. This, and it and it and it

and it were not that they got to get to much my attention was

you, you could you're think in paralysis of the so where,

where, or, well, what commonly they're so you Subio the

Mewarto. But every that I hear of a minute, is, I'm a costado,

I'm put up up front of I'm put on I'm not. The difference

of what me was that was I was at the three of the

morning with these and these rizas, in a position

that I don't do I'm to do to to

describe you a little you have seen the

has like this part, the articulation that is like very marked and that for more that they are still

being being like a other I was, I'd I'd over my codos,

I was up in my codos with the shoulders, so, rodillas and codos,

my hands pegas at the arms, my feet pegas

to the legos I was, I was not was not on the that one of the legions,

and up on the gluteus, and with the head to with the mouth aborted. I don't if you

have the eyes on I just remember that when I had a conscience that was a disperta I was in

that position I costed much a job liberate of this position. So this

this passed before this this this song and this this was this.

This was okay. So, so for so I think I , I think in that

case I I'm getting to think attacked. I said, it was in a quarter

the of the of the one of the of the night's, and then to start me

to get to get to in this position. I know that the time. But how

how many? How's the time? In that house, in this my family. I'm

I'm taking count as through the age of my I think I've got four years to be out of there.

So I'm around to 12 years. 12, 13 years. Okay. So, there can be a good space of time between what

what's going to a situation, the other, the other, the other, the or the person was, and that's

that's all right? That's there? That's there. That's, I think, the only way in the way in the time of

the time is with the time. So, curiously, are my years. always are my referent.

My brothers were little, I'd have been a year and a year and a year, I think. And right, then it was

after 13 years. So it was about the initial. That's the first of the question. And after

the oration came this? After the oration, pass on various years when she casser my

brother. I'm talking of the last nine eight or nine years. Uh-huh. It was

when when came you of the abitation and it's the time. The humo was between

one and other? The humor was in the the oration. So that was the why we did we do the reason.

Because the humor, you know, and the manna and the has done. It's the

question. So, first is the stiron of the piece. Literally came up and me hailed

the path. And then then you can't to change the position. And that

you can't consider to come that position and that a position normal, not even

that you can't do. No, I'm a way to that position? Terminable very agotada

when I would be to get rid of her. If I had a little the cooel

because my head always was always always. So I felt that the cervical

tronable when I tried to to accommodate it. Okay. But it was like

it was like a problem in this part in this part, and in the part

of the musks. And in the part of the Merton is, well, well, you know, I'll see a

one of a photographia. It's, uh, in form of, of a man very, very great. It's,

uh, barcading all my muslo, like if this is my pierna, uh, well, the two dead,

I think, that's, I think, that's, I'm, uh, is, this,

see in these four, deos, and this, for the part interior of the muslo, markando the

pulgar. Yeah, with, practically the double of diameter of the pulver. How many

you know you know, you know, about the despertartes in many some of the no,

no, no, but for some three. But for me it was much much

no, or so. There was some success that did that did you did you

do these positions? Of the positions, I don't say to I'd say, I'd like I

try to try to try to try to I'm, I said that

in my my head what I did was, occupate, occupate,

occupate, occupate, so that this not you get to do you, not you're

not at all the time. Nocturny, of the actual, I don't do you remember,

you know, some years, began some of some some some very big

little, when they started at the madroada, I was I was I'm

in the computer because was occupied in a and I was

perfecto although still no they registrava. I remember that this prima,

the devote, I'm I'm going to see where the move in the last little piece, and in that

then Facebook, boom, it was super great, and I'm my imagination, I'm to come back

to the and I'm a message that you, I'm going to get a man, you know,

you know, I'm I'm sure that's I, see, I, see, I'm sure, because

after the pressure super malmana or, no, I don't know, minutes after I registered in Facebook

the news of this. So, so, I was going to that's all that I'm trying to

to occupy me to be able to think about this type of things, and it was like I was connect me

a little of what was going to and I get a point in the I, I was going to

I, I was connected to be to be things, I was fascinated me, I'm in

what I'm, I'm not a, not, this, to, go to go to

a little about things like, it's like, you know, don't,

you know, totally. And I think that I'm I'm going to I'm saying to say,

I'm not about these accessos. Dure a very a bit of a

years. This is the socese that was that's aterr of the

sombra? Yes. The positions. No. The aroma. The aroma

and the canticose, the of receiving the call and then they said, I don't that's I'm going to

that's aterrador? No, the call to be a salvador, yeah, totally.

I know what had done. I know what I had received that yeah, I would have collapsed

there, I'd have done. Okay, okay. The, those passes in the

sotea, of a reppes, on the techt? Dehs, to put attention.

Dehast to put an attention. Yeah. Okay. And what was what you when you'd be able to start when you were to go to start? No, nothing.

It was like, it was like, for so, for that I refer to like the paralysis of the dream of the soul to, you know, not you did you control in your body? No, in the body, nor in the body, or no, so, of the fact. Movement ocular?

Yes, it was the only that I could move. Only the eyes, but the eyes, I go, my head stills, so so, so that's, that's what I could be more than the techo. Yeah.

That was where I was the I mean. So, I did you in the Yeah.

Okay. After of this did you did a more to you did you

did? No. I intended to do you did much time yeah

I eliminated all what me could like to

give a different to this type of a

kind of sensibility, literal, I mean, I tried like a other side,

and I'm a lot of a lot of two years, after three years, it was a success

a lot in my family. Um, well, obviously, to us impacted

much, it was something was very personal, something something, something something,

and everything, and all we're, we're, in a tristess very

profound, no? And in in the career to someone, you,

you, you, you're to be in you, so you're so on, then I'm

to do the church, to be to go to to go to something. You know? You got to

do that something? Yeah. Right, me regress that part. Okay. But,

but I got to to call to something. When I go to the church again,

I'm to go to a miso, and it was a different to how I

lived at the misas antes. What changed? All the time. There was

something that was being about what was going to what was going to around. Or I

had a thought of it was so it was like distract me and not permit me

to be living the miso. Like the the new molesto like the

little like the sombra that control or like the the that

you can the ensierra like the sombra Like the sombra. It had much

to be with that there's a sentiment that's, uh, here no it's, here no

you don't you know, you're not you're not you're not so I'm so I'm so I'm

so much you know you've noticed? It's a bit of course I'm panicked that I think I'm

to come to another other thing and and this me like is something that's a

little I'm not could you? No, you could do you did?

You were to be all the misa but all the misa

was like internally to be about the person to be going to be and I'm going to be

how I'm going to be how I'm all the whole time I'm in other situation and it

was like you have a kind of kind of like two different to be or

you're not you don't know you yeah I'm I'm sure

I'm I'm not I'm I'm going to I'm you're you're you're

you're person you'd pass, no. And for the other the other

the other it was like, it was a no. It was a attitude. It was

in what where was there the attitude in what part of your body?

It was mental, but also was a body of the stomach. And mental

in what is the body of the posterior? I think was generalized. Generalized. It was

very powerful, very abromator or like a little a bit got of a

lot of a very abramed because even all the time I'm thinking in you

in concentrate you know, concentrate the rest of and not you don't you do you're doing the

father? You know, you know, you know, this that I did you just,

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