HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - ATERRADOR LO QUE HABITABA EN MI ARMARIO|EP 119 | FT. ARIEL ROBLES
Episode Date: September 15, 2023Un fantasma quedó atrapado en un loopBienvenida Familia Nocturna a éste nuevo episodio de @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE hoy tenemos a una super invitada miembro de la querida Familia Nocturna Ariel Rob...les, les contamos historias escalofriantes de espíritus que se revelan , entes imitadores, sonidos paranormales y cómo es posible interactuar con ellos, relatos de niños que ven entidades de terror, Ariel nos cuenta de los dones generacionales que hay en su familia y el narrador nos revela la razón por la que un suscriptor sabe que los demonios existen.
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But, but I'm
because me
I'll go
to see the
They're
They're
They're
literally in
people
I'm going to
I'm
I think that
I'm going to
my little
welcome to
Welcome to
Family
Nocturna
to this
new episode
to
Let's
the new
episode
because
me
here in the
studio
a child
that she
is
a good
she
is a
person
and it's
a lot
for a
different circumstances of the
that I'm going
that she had
lived a
a lot of
a lot of
socese
so that's
the day of
I'm a
good,
Ariel,
Ariel,
how you're
thank you
good.
What's the
good.
Oh yeah,
I'm
thinking that I'm
going to
know these
practices because
when you
made a
a delantito
of your
stories,
I said,
this is going to
do you?
A.
You're
a lot?
Much.
Much.
From,
from,
since a
little,
since
much.
Fickate
that I
started
after
ago because when
I received those
things, obviously
it was a lot of
spanto.
Yeah,
we're talking
of how do you
start?
I think some
some 10 years.
Some 10 a
year.
I'm,
I'm going to
do the two
questions that
we're doing to
all the people who
have been
on the
first occasion.
First,
you, you
do you
think you're
in the
paranormal?
Yes.
Yes.
More or
no,
you know,
you know,
no,
totally.
Totally.
Totally.
Totally.
Second question.
Ariel,
me
They said
for
there
that you
have
some
that you
have to
tell.
Is this
this?
Yes.
So,
Ariel,
I
think I
have
made to
you and
you know
we're
to do you
do you
want to
a
story.
Okay.
That is
one of
the
stories could
say more
extra
and if
not,
more
atemorysant
in a
sense
very
very
poor
usual.
This
story
he
occurred
to
Lorena
a
very
very
me said,
I don't
describe to
the level of
nerve
that I'm
quite the
time.
I'm quite the
time.
That's what
a terrible.
You say,
I'm going to
get to
the audience
probably have
lived a
similar.
I'm
that I've
lived.
And me
say,
how has
got to
get a
calm.
She has
two years
living with
her with
her
their
very
very good
relation.
And in
that
a beautiful relation,
of a certain
manner,
they've
been accustomed
the one
to the other.
They were
going to
discover things
that they
know they're
not doing
that the
other
had been
and they're
being a
return.
And then,
he had
passed
more of
a year
and
they're
immersed
in a
cycle
that
was a
day,
and
days,
the
time,
for
questions
of
the
different
in cycles
more
more
more
At the same hour,
Lorena
was a
time more
than the
new year to
her new year
and she was
a year
a little
time.
And when
that was
occurred,
he'd
he'd
to be at
the
door of
the
door,
intentando
not
not
a
room,
she desvestia
and she
bestia and
he bestia
and intentando
not
desperer
she
had a
lot of
she had
a little
the cellar and then
she's
kept
the dormido.
She
she has
never
because
he has
noted
like three
things
in a
routine
of your
the first
is that
always.
It's always
the
car
and it
he's
the
car
and the
same
time
and he
listen
when
open
the
car
and he
hear the
door
it's
it's
like
it's
like
a
thing that's
So,
he's
going to
the same
rhythm,
over the
door the
door,
the door,
does the
same.
So it's
like a
routine that
I'm,
it's a
little,
and I
know,
so much
time it's
when it's
something that
is something
that's a
thing that
he's up
that's a
little
and they're
so they're
so they're
so he's
really,
and I'm
really,
I'm perfectly
looking
it's
in
the
house.
And I'm
well,
I'm
know,
I'm not
when he
that he says
me
and his
my time, but when I've been
he's tallado me, he's still a word in the cellar. In occasions, I've asked, and resulta,
always is the same, a new routine. He says, for that what he said, the
I was to open the eyes, me styr, and in that, I
I heard that he got a car.
And as a repasso mental, I'm going to get, okay,
here, he's going to open the porton, here I'm going to
and see, and in that, like, me was taking the modora,
and I'd say, I'll close the eyes.
And while I close the eyes, I'll hear the
door of the car, he'll have all the routine.
Mm-hmm.
He'll have the door of the car,
over the door of the house, the sierra,
exactly the serraturances in the order
in the order in the way that ever the door,
one that
when it's a
caminadit
like a
when he's
a little
when he's
the
door without
and make the
door and then
when I'm
I'm here
I'm here
I'm here
I'm a
very bad
and I'm
you know
that he
is being
to get
to get
to the
and I
think
I'm
going to
give you
the
I'm saying
I'm
don't have
we're
we're going to
get to
we're
we're
we're
we're
I need to
I need to
I
respond and he
he's
he
doesn't
where he
under the
room to be
and he's
I'm doing
and I'm
very serious
and I'm
there's
no I'm
I'm
am sure
I'm
what I
think I
I'm
I'm
I'm
the door that
I'm here
and I'm
to comeer
for the
house
no
no I'm
he
he goes
two
after
after
that
what's
what I
what was what
what I'm
what
I've
said,
because
now,
every
that he
is getting,
I don't
feel
comfortable,
I know if
it's real,
I'm
imagineing
or it's
something.
One of
said this,
Ariel,
tell me
your story.
Very
very.
Is in
serious?
Yeah,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I'm put the
little
chinita
because
as how
me it
is totally
I do you
do it.
Precisely
when I
did that
was the
first
and not
me will
forget that
I started
that I
started to enjoy
because I'm
scared
I'm going to
16, 17
years
me pass
the same
in the house
of my
father and
there was
where I
did I'm
I don't
I'm
what you
did you
tell me
okay
I
I'm
I'm
I'm going to
say
rebel
so
so
I'm
so I
don't
from a
family
that
I
had
a
church
Christian
in
my
case
just, not just, not just
the
other
the family
of my
mom,
nothing
my mom
my mom,
my
mom,
my mom, my
two
brothers and
we're three
kids,
we're a
church,
I was a
Christian,
I was like,
I was
a lot of
so,
that was,
that was,
I think,
the second
that now
see
something,
not just
I'm,
not more
I'm
did,
I,
I,
I,
,
So, I was going to turn of the night,
like I was recuperating my materials and all that.
And I remember much that I was up part of that of that.
Well, it was very late.
Me lander like at least of the morning.
I mean, me me encantable to dream.
Every one of the whole room,
just my papes dormia together.
And my, well, having been said that my family was Christiana,
this
not are much
like to
think in
things
in things
in things
so
so
so
um
don't
they're
to present
like a
a
kind of
things
are the
night
I was
I was
tapada
I
I'm
I'm used
to
do
I'm
and I
don't
don't
we've
not
very
good
in
that time
my mom
and
so
I'm
I hear in the
door
I'm
I'm
opening the
but I'm
I'm going to
I'm
never to open
the eyes
I'm not sure
but I'm
but I'm
noted that
I'mannicing
so I'm
because
I don't
I'm
I'm
I'm
like
at the
seven and
the minute
of the
so I'm
so much
so it's
my mom
I'm not
so I'm
to get to
the door
and I'm
to come
to my
camera
and she
sit in the
And I was in the room,
and I just was doing this.
Like, like, I'd enter into dormit and not,
and I'm, it's a bit of year.
And it's so, me is it very rare
for what I'd say,
I mean, no,
we'd say, I was gonna,
and I asked,
I'm, I'm, I'm gonna
in the examines,
I was, I was,
I'm gonna, yeah,
for, uh,
and I, yeah,
well,
yeah,
oh, yeah,
how did you feel in chemica?
I,
I remember perfect,
how you went,
perfect, how you were,
the,
the, the,
The truth is that the master me
to answer when he's
when I hope
I'm going.
Very well.
And I'll
carisading me the cabo
he's gonna
but he's
but he's
the door
open.
And I mean
no I
don't like
the doors
of the
nothing,
of nothing.
So,
I remember
that I'm like
that's gonna
have to
start to
to start the
door to
I'm
parro,
the car
and I
go over
to do
like
I mean
no,
no,
no, no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
only more than that
more than that's
11th.
It was at the 11th of the
morning.
Then I go to
and I'm
my mom
yeah, no see
gotcha,
no me
dispirtes at
the 7
and you
not me
could be
good.
And she was
going to
and she
was going to
and me said
what you
do you
know,
well you know,
well you know
you've been
to be
to be here
I'm not
you've been
said if you
had come
to be
the manado
and I'm
never
done to do
your
I said, me
You know, I'm going to do your
quarter.
I said, I'm not going to do your
quarter.
And you know, I'm not
you know your
to do your quarter.
For then,
well, I don't,
I'm saying that my mom,
but no,
in my house is credent of those
things?
Because no less
to me.
But I knew
because I've
had an experience
where she took over
a photo,
where's a
person,
so, a part of
that I was,
I was like
the chiflave of
my
the five, six years
I'd
go to be
I'm going to
I'm in the
question,
and then I'm
going to be the
what I'm
like you're
like you're
like you know
I don't want
I don't
know I'm
I don't
I'm not you
I said you
you'd say you
know I'm
I don't want to
I'm going to
hear you
what you
did you
because you
because you're
because it's
very,
very little
because I'm
because I'm
back back
after the
day
after
oh,
well
we're just
just
you
well
I don't, I go, I say,
that's, or so, is it like,
but yeah, no, it was like,
what, what was going to be
going to be?
At the day next time,
well, I don't know the hour,
but for the cartina
it's ever,
more or less,
the 7, 8 of the morning.
I,
I'm, like,
I, I'm,
and where I,
I'm, and I,
open the eyes,
I, I'm,
the eyes,
so, is,
it's just,
you're parading
one,
I, no,
that's,
that's,
that,
so,
I,
more than the part of the
back of the
body of the
body of the
So, like you know,
just the
is just a
parando in my
camera,
where is there
are in my
camera,
and he's
going to be
and I'm
the back,
and I'm
going to be
going to
other way,
so the
the day
but right
but right
but I'm
not the
I'm just,
I'm just
I'm just
to the
door,
I'm not
I'm
don't want to
hear the
but I'm
what I'm
can't
you're
you're
and he
he was
in the
door
before
and he
and he
go
and he's
a soton
of a
door
he did
a soton
I did a
I don't
see a
I mean
nothing
I mean
only a
man
and he
was a
black
was a
hair very
was a
little
he was all right
I'm
I'm
that I'm
so I'm
I'm
I'm sure
I'm
I'm
I'm sure
I'm
that you
I'm
the door.
I said, I know
I was talking
with nobody.
Uh-huh.
She went
to be a
parted,
like no
he said,
and gave the
assotone.
And so,
okay,
for the
assotone of the
door,
um,
he was the
door, or?
No,
solo.
The door
was,
yeah,
I don't,
I mean,
that's,
I mean,
nothing,
no,
no,
maybe,
I don't know,
I don't know,
I don't know
to,
I don't see,
that she
to make,
that she,
to make,
that she
didn't,
and,
Asot, and she
And she's
A sound of the
feet
No, no, no,
nothing,
the only
that's the
was an asotone
of a porto.
The asotone
of a porth
Yeah.
Okay.
This,
you say you
have you
approximately?
16, 17
years.
Any way
you've ever
ever?
Never.
What
sensation
you gave to
this person?
Like,
of a menace
of invasion or
nothing of that?
No,
well,
it was that
was all the
contrary
in the
earlier,
because in
a day
earlier
was about
all
that I
was
all the
was
all the
I know, in that
I don't
I had a
family that
a little
she had a
that's a
but I don't
know the
I'm not
another
for example
my abuelita
or not
I mean
I didn't
I had
in that
I was
a time
that was
who was
who was
my mom
yeah
yeah
the voice
was the
was the
mom
yeah
yeah
okay
like
a type of
imitator
your
mom
does
the
woman?
Cabello
long,
lacy,
or the
type of
the
type of the
complexion?
No,
no.
The second,
because I think
at the
first,
I mean
to get to
open the
eyes.
Like if
just
just that
you know
that's
so.
And the
second is
when you
see,
these
these little
details?
Well,
yeah,
yeah,
complia
with,
well,
with what
I was,
with what I'm
talking,
but not with
your
little
we'd
don't get
sense. No, no.
We know, we, we know, we're
even saying,
I mean, that
maybe I would have
thought, and that's
what I thought,
so if you're,
to, I mean,
to, I'm sure,
to, I mean,
because,
not, not she
not, no,
not,
not, we,
not, we,
not, we're,
like, a lot of
kind of
sort of,
but,
no, I,
so, I,
say, I'm,
I'm, I'm,
I'm, I'm,
I'm,
you know,
and you know,
so, yeah,
yeah,
no,
no,
no,
no me assuces.
Okay,
Okay, okay.
What interesting,
so there's a
kind of
of a spectro or entity
that's going to
to be a matter
minimum in the part
of the voice,
because physically when
it's not
not so you can't
do you feel your mom
physically?
In nothing.
Nothing.
No,
no.
So, you're a person
totally different.
Yes.
You're
you consider you
consider you
consider a person
very sensible
in the
sense of
emotions or
tacto
with other
people and
so,
yeah.
Yeah.
The
people normally have like an energy
characteristic, that
the fact that's,
the fact that we're
quite there's times
that certain people
relevant for us.
If they're so
they're still,
we're going to be
this person,
no, set a,
it's like,
and coincide,
but many times
because we've got
to distinguish,
no,
her,
your aura,
her energy,
your presence.
In the
case of your
mom, you
get to
to distinguish that,
or the day
of today
to do you
do you,
you know,
like your
presence,
his energy,
the
feeling when
she's like
like a lot,
or something?
No.
No, it's
that we've
been so
very much
so.
At the
day of
it continues.
Perfect.
And this
entity
had had
a type of
energy
that was
like a
presentia
or for
nothing?
Yeah,
but
I'd
say,
I think,
I mean
a day
before
was like
something
something
something
something that
something that
not
you know
that's
And the second,
because I was not me
scared of you.
I was always
I was used to
I'm used to
but I'm
doing it.
All the contrary?
How would you
describe you?
Negative.
Negative.
Pesado?
Pesado.
Cresidid,
you consider you
have been the
same entity?
No.
No, definitely.
Maybe they were
two distinct?
Yes.
Okay, okay.
Viviste
this
from little
yeah.
Recurras
what was the
first event?
Yeah.
A be.
Quintam
the
question.
The spejo
Volving to the
Spejos
In serious
In the
Baio
In the
Baio of the
part
The same
It's,
to be
If I'm
Desperperperper
It's a
It's a
rectangular
Is it
So,
Uh
Horizontal
All right
They're
The
On the
Pairs
This
Preet
It's
has a
This part
has been a
small
The same
Machachachachach
And it's
And there
A barrita
So
In this
Barrita
To
my
and me
we, we
know,
I used to
I'm a
little good
relationship
with my,
with my
two
brothers,
but I'm
always been
very good
to be able
to be
my brother
to the
little.
So,
I remember
that we
was up
of the
barrita,
we
had five,
six years
he was
my
little,
and we
didn't,
my papa
sent this.
So,
so I
remember much
that we
had used
so that
to have
to do you
to have
to the
one of
the
one of
and we
just
we're
a space
the
space we
imagine,
if you can't
you know,
you know,
it's like,
you know,
to know,
all of that
so you
see you
see for the
space,
you know,
there's a
other,
there's a
kind of
sort of
vintage,
this,
with four
chairs,
and we
were doing
the
little
the end of
the
thing,
all normal,
we were
doing,
and we
had a
my
hermina
had a
pyjama
very peculiar
of color
a
photo,
so he
gets a
and she's
going to
go to
the room
the two.
And then I
said,
I was
now,
and I said
my
man,
he said,
he was
he was
up,
we're
we're
so,
we're,
we're going,
we're,
we're
we're
doing we
we're doing
to lavers'
all the
normal. My
woman
was never
was a
I was
a guyed
of a
dream.
And not
I'd
putt
and then I'm
like,
yeah,
that'sy
that's a
piece of the
and then we
had been
put that
that's a
piece of
never
a question
to be
two minutes
my
my mom
would be
my
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
and even
the
so the
way,
so it's
like,
like,
no,
since
never so
never
so,
so,
It was a question of one or two minutes
and that was the first
that I remember
that was the first
that we took us
and me decault
my brother no
my brother no
can't say the same
but I'm just
that I'm like I'm
sure that's the
not he doesn't
the experience
no no
no he's
my brother is
happy
telling my stories
because
always he gets
like no
but that
he's another
other thing
yeah
are to
are for
the question
family
are three?
are three
three?
three.
You're the
I'm the major? My
my brother
and my
brother and the
little brother
the little
little kid.
Okay.
Of the
stories that
you're talking
in my
mind two
stories very
particular
that have
certain
that they're
certain
the first
story
is a
a child
that has a
good
relationship
with her
but they're
in a
situation
very difficult
very
very difficult
the
mom
she's
the mom
has a
this
child
and has her brother
minor of four
years.
The mom
was a mama
of the
last six
months has been
a year of
the last year
about the
story of the 90,
more or
less.
It's been
an infirno
for that
she has
a job and
make a
time, because
in that
moment,
we'd
stigmatized
much the
question of
separate
and to
get a
time.
I'm
I'm
doing a
poor's
pothos
and not
they were
to tryer
a,
one good
food,
give us
a good
had a summately stressed.
What provoked this?
That no
they'd
nothing of
conversation.
Practically the
woman
was up,
to the
band band,
they had an area that
served as
a kitchen
out of the
quartito.
But it was a
house that
was a
a house
a little
in that
a quartito
still had
a little
a space
little but
in the
they had
a closet
for the
brother
and for
she
was
and she
was
sometimes
sometimes
sometimes
also
at the
other
I'm
there
had much
sometimes he
had much
was
there
nobody
with
who
So she's
she's
a
time
like,
like,
I'm going
the eyes
at a
time at
the
time.
I don't
remember
when she
was a
little
but
she had
a
occasion
in the
situation
that he
robbed
all the
tranquillity
and she
was
she was
she was
she
she was
not a
word
not a
matter
that should
be a
madru
because
there
the
light of
the
but
there
no
there
It's supposed that
it's
passed at
the 12
easily.
Not a
note that no
there's
there's
a second
in the
night
a canion
and there's
a sensation
rare in
the
room.
It's the
sensation
like
if it
was a
very
rare.
Something
that
not have
lived
and
he said
until
the day
of
I've
been
when I've
been
in
the
place
on
that
he's
that
says that
sensation
like
that
came
that
was
the
area
of
the
but at the final
I said,
there's no,
there's a
other,
it's your
your family,
help them,
do you know,
do you know,
does a
something,
when I
go to my
mom,
with a
pyjama
that no
he had
seen a
last,
a largeada,
and is
like a
going,
being the closet,
viewing the
little
roperito,
and I
say,
with a
voice
a bit
to be
a
mom,
mom,
mom,
what is
there,
mom and he said and as
I'd like lethargada
Volta to the
Cabe to the head
She me
Ked up
But some
Those are
I'm used
Totally
And then
I'm again
To see
See again
The closet
See that
Mirr's
Crosryos
Then I
I know
Who's
Who knows
Who's
Who's
Who's
Yeah me
I'm going to
Dorme
The problem is
When when
The Lulmina
Illumina
The Cama
Illumina
The Cama
I'm just
I'm just
I'm going to
the instant and
the court
is she
she said she
he's a
time in
to tell you
to her mom
and her
brother and
said but
when I
started in the
madugada
me forced me
forced to
not open
the
eyes.
It's for
meo
that
there's
so
some
stories
strange
there's
there's
there
there
because I
know
that
then
your
quality
or your
don't
is
to be
perci
see
see
things?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
With those eyes?
No, with the
eyes.
And not is
very easy,
I mean,
I mean,
I mean,
I've seen
I mean,
two times.
The that I
want to tell is
the end of the
mirror,
oh,
in the
same
space,
this is the
same thing,
the same,
the same,
so,
same,
all.
Okay.
You've
talked about
that then
the
space
is,
as,
and here,
and here,
and here,
and here,
and here,
is parr.
So,
you
do you
know,
the Rewos,
the 5,300
that
were over?
100%.
Well,
I'm
recargo yone
the
spejo,
I go this,
and the
typical photo,
not?
So,
and the typical
and I'm
doing the
mirror,
and I'm
a,
I know,
one of ten
photos.
One of
those,
I took in
blank and
black and
because
it was
when it
was,
oh,
so,
it's
can put
in effect
black and
black and
in the effect sepia and that the cafe-cita and there's
going to, no, with the cellar.
I don't see anything.
I feel that's my perceptible, but then I think not
so, because in the moment I don't see nothing.
What we do when we're doing those,
when we're doing photos, then we start, we're seeing,
we're seeing, all, all is normal,
but in one,
I tell you, I was recarragated in the
spejo, so, doing this,
like, nothing more the head, and in that photo
I don't have to
I have to
have to
I'm a
a person
that has a
the pillow
of the hongito
lacio
lacio lacio
lacio
with much
not much
but it has
like the
cabititos
like the
those of
the nacimento
we're
a
very beautiful
very
very
affilada
so
very chikita
afilada
so pickudita
some
labios
very delicate
I mean, I don't have
nothing of the labias,
I mean,
I don't see you.
But the
pillow of ongito
he was
to tapable
to come up
to come
no,
he's not
any expression,
no
it's a
person.
Well,
no,
I don't know
if I'm
saying
person,
I'm
was also,
I'm a
shoulder,
of those,
I don't know,
I'm,
how to say,
I mean,
I,
I,
a sweater
of a coo,
Like a tortoise?
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And, um,
no,
so,
he'd be in
more than
his,
his,
his,
his hand,
so,
so I'll,
I'll,
I'll recargar,
yeah,
so,
so I'm gonna,
soenriending,
in black and
black and black,
and I'd
have liked
that that was
that would
be a color.
So,
so,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
12 years, but I'm
like in shock, I'm trying,
I said, like, you did some
explanation, I said, in
what I'm recargue?
But it was a person,
I mean, I mean,
had a nose, had been
hair,
but no,
no, I didn't,
so I'm going to
get to the
bad year's super
assuptated, and
all, say,
y'allando,
so, I,
and I,
and they're,
I was, I'm,
I'm going to
you know the photo.
And,
and it's like,
they're in the
I was in the bathroom of twas.
I said,
is that one has
one has one
toils.
Look,
it's a
boca,
has a
nose,
look,
in their
is a man
in the
where is,
and that
photo I
had to have
a
year, I
know that
I could
tell you
to be
a
photograph,
because I
really
very
that I'm
really, I
talked to
all the
and I was
that I'm
never was
to be
because no
that was
that I
know
that one
that was
my one of
some of
some of
some of
some of
that's
experiences, but it was very rare.
I mean, I think, two
or three times.
And not was very, very
partidary of that.
So, I was, I'm
talking to my
my kids, to be
like, you know,
to my papas,
or for my parents,
that never,
I never had
ever been a lot.
And that
occasion was where
yeah, so,
so,
so,
so, they were,
I, I went to
, I was in a
church,
I was, like,
what is this?
And it's like,
what is this?
And, this,
not,
there. How
it was in the photo?
Physical or
translucent?
No, physical.
Like if I
I'm re-cargo
in your
armory and we
took a photo.
Yeah.
So,
like,
no, no
no.
No.
That's so much.
Okay, and
you've seen your
eyes, but
you've seen
in your
photo, but
standing there
in the
face, no, no, no.
I was
never, no, no.
I was never
no,
no past
nothing.
And you
took a
photographies in
this session.
Yes,
only that
only that
was all
so,
and the
the other,
no
appears
nothing.
Any light
you know,
you know,
the sunbe
and things
that's a
thing, or
or at least
it was that
was a little
a little bit
a little bit
maybe I
took the
time the
time to
get them,
something,
something,
something,
but
physically
and also
plasmodo,
no.
No.
In a
photographia,
when
came,
when they were
on these
cameras
of
Sony,
the cyber
shot,
there was
a
that when
I bought that
camera,
I had a
reunion with
a new one of
a minute,
and then the
first he said,
I said,
before,
before,
before,
before,
before,
before,
they were,
they were in
a car
in a car,
in the
that they
were a
car, so it
was rare,
rar,
that was
a rarro,
and it
was,
it was,
was a
, I,
was a much time,
between a
vehicle and
we're talking,
and they're
a quarter
very long,
and they were,
it was a
place,
for the place in
that was
located at this
carly,
not it was
not normal
that you
were people
because it
was very
into a
colony,
very long
of any
any way to
any
any park.
So it
was rarestim
that you
were a
time to
all those
who were
people
normally
they were
in vehicle
so they
they're in
this
house
they're
going to
take the
photography
and all
the
all the
camera
the camera
they
they put
on
the
the
car
the
chica, this chick
is moving the camera,
she takes the
photographia and
they're doing
that the camera
so much
it's a other
other
time.
Total that
they're taking
three
photographs.
And when
they're at
a dinner,
and then
he's to
revisit the
photos and
they're
on the
first
photography
appears a
phantasm
but it's
a photo
very rarer
three
people in the
photo
are different
the ros
the rosos
is made
moved
very
rare. One of the
person of that photo, that has one,
has a kind of a caramelia
demoniac, during
many years, because this photo
I'm talking about,
that's been 20 years or
more,
they always said
that it was
an ex-amiga,
that if they were
a name, we're
going to put her
Jobana.
It was Jopana,
this chick
of here was Jona.
Until that
one day they're
with Yovana.
And Yovana
says,
I'm the
one of
that's the
person of
that is a
second
phantasm
to my,
that's
there's
a lot of
years after
because
all the time
they were in
the time,
they were in
the form of the
photo.
And the
phantasm
that's a
is a phantasm
very,
more rarrow.
I said,
the photographia
sent to them
a various
photographers,
and I
said,
how it could
do you know,
that's a
question,
no,
so that's
not, that
is a,
that's very
rare.
It's a
blaned.
Yeah,
it's,
so,
something,
that is
of a
color
color,
and a blue
with
form of a
person that
has a
little little
a
shirt of
a man
short and
like if
stood up
there
and I'm
going to
the
camera.
But they
no,
or so
with
effect
no
that's
not
that
that
is the
more
rare.
So
10
people
being
the
camera
there.
If
that is
a person
real
passed
in front
of
all
so
I'm going to
go to
go to
some
I'm going to
know that's
I'm
a
time of
but
it's the
photography
that we're
that we're
probably
probably probably
has to
a
person who's
a
time that
they're
that they're
that they're
that's
a little
the photo.
Yeah,
yeah,
I'm going to
do you.
What's the
stuff?
You're
yeah,
but
fiftate
that
that
that any
that's
that's
that's
that's
that's
I'm
I'm
I'm
because
because I
nobody
me
me cregia.
I mean, even
I felt like
because I said
all this
in my mind
that's in my
mind that
my mind that
I'm jose
or at the
least I'm
predisponged
or at
maybe I'm
maybe I'm
maybe I'm
that I'm
after that
what I
would say,
I'm
I could
desawgarmes
I mean
it's the
not the same
to tells
someone
that you
you know
that you're
yeah,
and that's
you're not
doing that's
yeah
okay, okay,
Adelante,
I'm going to
go to
my cell phone
I'm going to
how you're
with your
with a lot
with a lot
in serious
no, no,
no,
very well,
you're
you're saying
those stories?
Yes,
I mean,
I mean,
they're just
I think,
because I've
lived,
I'm going to
I'm going to
like,
I'm going to
get to be
very heavy?
No,
no,
is,
they're doing,
I'm
didn't,
I'm
because,
I said,
I said,
you know,
I mean,
I don't
feel like,
not they're in,
not in the
movies when we're going
of that.
And in
the end upio
they're not.
They're
so they're
so it's
like the
effect.
It's like,
it's
it's a
it's a
question.
Yeah,
I've seen the
I've seen.
What I've
that's the
yeah, that's,
yeah,
more because
my
credence,
I need to
investigate to
investigate
well,
is that
is that
are like
in things
that
were reales.
Okay.
Uh,
and there
is where the
the movie,
not
more
the effect,
but the
story that
you're
going to
it's going to
it's
heavy.
It's
really very,
it would be
real.
You know,
I'm
not I'm
much for
the effects,
but
you know,
the
last
the last
movie
that in
really
me
made a
I
felt
like,
I
was,
not was
the
of the
first,
but the
first.
The
first
so the
other
other thing,
but the
first is
good
so you
always you
always you
always
I'm
scene where
they're
playing the
those
these
those
those applauseos
the plasos
no,
the
I'm really
real.
You took
also the
spectrovisories
of the
car's
back up
in that
same
the movie?
During,
after that
after that
you know,
that's
that you
about you
see you're
the way of
the way to
see,
yeah,
yeah,
to be the
in this
time,
so if
in Monterey
went to
to see the
videos of
the
cars,
the grand
majority
was to
I was just to look up to
because no,
I mean,
I'm going to
retrovisar
of the
re-o.
Oh,
is that it's
I don't,
you know,
not you
don't you
do you know,
the same,
the same
that's the
thing is the
that's the
thing,
I guess,
I think it
was what
what we
mean,
there's
there's going to
that you're
going to be a
little,
when the
I'm sure,
I'm
you know,
manch,
me remember,
the conjure,
and to me
made a
tromom,
so me did
a movie
really,
the first.
Yeah,
Uidaz. Okay, a
let's tell me
What other story
I've occurred
Oh,
Fiatte
that's the
I'm going to
talk about
is that I'm
a lot of
a lot of
I'm
a bit of
a little
that all the
family of my
mom
was a
bit more
in the
of the
drugeria
and that
my mom
is the only
that
that's the
only that
that's
many
are many
are eight
women,
they're nine,
we're nine,
we're
we're going to
eight
yeah
Um, um,
these,
um,
are the records
that I have
when I was
a little,
but I remember
much that they'd
in a quarter
so,
more or less
like this
like this
or the,
so,
the tels and
all,
but I didn't
altars.
And I,
I know,
but,
so,
I'm just
listening,
so,
I know,
like,
I mean,
so,
so,
Pancho Villa.
And that
I don't
for that
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
I know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't know, but to,
they're, some, like, fun of, of, like, to start
and so, so, I don't know if it's, so I'm, so, like, he's gonna,
that's, like, like, they're, like, so, this, this, way, much, this,
this, so, this, all, so, so, so, so, all the, so, all of, my years, my
of my
tios,
and I'm
a little
myel
also
those
kids are
of those
people who
those
those
people are
those who
we're
those who
do you
who are
who are
to see,
to them,
to them
who are the
people,
um
one's
are more
desperters
than others
if
have
primos
that they
literally
have in
people
people
so
like people
like
like you
say
deform
and
all
this
type
of
things
I
have
a
prima that, um,
see those
do, not those
don't know, at the most
but those,
they'll imagine.
Like, like,
it's like, it's
like, and I mean,
I mean, and I'm,
I mean,
I'm sort of,
I mean,
not very,
very,
but we're all
those kids
and the kids.
And those
that we have
children,
our children
are those
that they're
those that
are more
despirtes
in that
type of
things
paranormal.
Let's see.
Okay.
After
of these
years,
you have
done to
know,
why?
I feel like,
well,
that all the
final,
we have been
the same
summer.
Yeah.
You know,
you know,
something like
a generation.
Something.
Okay.
Cres that
has to
be with the
spiritism,
with
these
in the
spirit of
Panchovi
and all this.
The
practices of
spiritist
from how
generations
are in your
family?
My
abuelito,
my abelito,
my abelito.
No,
see,
he was who
was the
he was going to.
He's still
alive,
but no,
we don't have
much of
but I'm
much of,
but I
know he
was the
he was the
he did you
to do you
to do this
type of
things.
Yeah,
he
he was
for him.
Yeah.
And he
was
for
something
to
Spino
at
Spino
here
Spinazzo, New York,
or,
or it was
he was
he's a
other side?
He's
he's a
right,
they're
they're
they're in
their rena,
so they
can't
and they
have,
some other
have you
have done
some
some
I'm
really,
no,
I'm
too,
I'm
like,
I'm like,
I'm,
like my
family
was like,
like the
Christian
or,
like,
like,
the Christian,
I,
like,
so,
I,
so,
we,
we,
or things
very
fias.
I think
to them
more.
Okay.
What,
has
happened to
something?
Yes,
to them.
Fisote
to them.
It's that
my mom
was like,
like,
oh,
that's,
this type of
things,
no,
I mean,
but they
also,
and also
all of
all,
they were in the
same
in the
so,
and all
they had
passed in
the
whole,
it's
and I
took to
in the
house
of a
person,
and,
more
more
things
more,
more things
They all right.
They're
in
where?
In the
Colonia
Leon 13?
It's a
colony
very bigita.
Leon 13 is
for
Independence?
No, no,
in the Americas.
Over the
Americas.
Ah, okay.
Yes,
for the
secondary of
34?
Oh,
that's a
community
very bigita
and that
has been
a lot of
things that
they've
been told
that they're
that they're
in the
same
quadara,
in the
same
era.
So,
they're
they're
more
more
relation,
but
But,
like the same
is a
colony
very bigietta
and
where the
same
the same
the same
there's
practice
things like
of
and that
kind of
of the
activities.
So,
are cases
that have
my
story.
Yeah,
I've been
that I'm
started to
me was
a reunion
so familiar
in one
of the
house
of the
rentable
my
tia.
This,
I was my
papa
with my
my brother in the
sillion
and all
we're in the
patio in
the reunion
and they're
there's a
like in the
time,
my
father and my
brother not are
like much
to be able to
do not
so they're
in their
in their role
and they
went to
to get to
a bigito
so normal
a bigito
and so
they're
not they're
like they're
like someone
of the
party,
right?
No,
there was
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
more
than my
more than
my
more than
they,
that maybe
were like
some
that's a
like a
so you know,
they've
been seen
totally,
yeah.
And they
were going
many,
very rare,
but I'm
to say,
always to
my children
that are my
primos,
that we're
that we're
and to
my kids,
and my
little,
to my
daughter.
Fiatty
that she has
got,
she has,
this,
I think,
I'm
I'm sure
can't
be a
thing,
she's
she's
like,
like,
like,
so,
no,
I don't
I don't know why, right?
Because I'd be scared.
But she, I remember that the year past
I was living in a house
where I, in some time,
I was like the tarot and all that.
So, I remember
much that I was thinking
that I was going to be
something, I don't know.
I was going to be able to the eyes.
And it was a badusadia normal.
But in that I heard that my
my wife's still, and me
said, Mom, why gritty?
If you're all right?
I'd say, you're all?
Because gritty?
If you're not, so you're
like,
because you're
grittando?
I go
no,
my
love, I
don't
I'm sorry.
Yes,
but
you're doing.
Yes,
my
love,
and she
was,
he was
to do
and the
little,
so,
this,
this is,
that,
no,
nothing.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
we're,
we're,
we're
really,
I'm much
the attention.
What you
did you
with that
entity,
to
your
16
years in
your
adolescence,
is
you,
you
did you
did you
get her,
and you
did you get to
what you
did you.
What you've
lived with
the anterior
is that
you've seen
in a
photographia.
Yes.
Has
seen,
has seen
any other
entity
apart of
these two?
No.
No.
What
you've
occurred
apart
to be?
Excuse.
You?
Do you
do you
think of
I think
I'm,
I think
that it
was
the
house.
I mean,
obviously I
because
me pass to
me, but
also that
had much
to be the
house of
my father.
But then
when I
my
go to
go to
live to
the state
of
Mexico and
we've
my ex
espos
and you
in a
department.
One two,
three,
I think it
were in
five
pieces and
we've
in the
third.
And
not
not the
court.
So,
the
other
one
is,
imagine
this
court.
But
that
the
department
that we're
that's
our
our
our
our
we're going to
we're going to
we're
we're
not we're
there
yeah it
was there
was a
because I'm
anybody
I'm living there
not
not even
not
I'm
actually I
had a
kind of
very
the windows
and
so
we're
we're
we're
not we
don't
we're
that
house
that
that
that
department
yeah
and
my ex
husband
was
I
had to
like 6
7
of the
of the
day
of the
he'd
get
yeah
more
night
like at
11,
at
a
time at
at least,
at
about the
I'm
I'm
so I'm
so I'm
know that
I'm
back on
and I'm
and he's
to hear
a
so that
a cany
a canytyty
but
I'm
I remember
that I
said,
but I
said
it's not
it's
because
no I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
imagine it
that's a
something
and
all the
time
I'm
I'm
I'm
I suppose that he had
So, my surprise
was that he
not was his
mochilla and
not was he
then,
then I'm
okay,
but I'm
I'mpec't
to hear
very soon.
I was
I was
I'm saying
and I
I was like,
I'm
he was
in nothing,
I mean,
he had
passed to him
no,
this is loca
no,
this is chiflada
no,
man,
so,
oh,
well, at the
yeah,
and if it's
that's what I'm
so,
and,
um,
I,
um,
I was, you know, well, it's
that no, it's that
no, no, no, no, no, but it's that I'm not
I'm saying, I mean, I'm
that, I mean, I'm not, I'm not,
but it's the sound of a canica
that's the one, and no, no,
more this quarter, or so,
is it pass to the kitchen,
to the bathroom, so,
I mean, is there,
someone, let's say,
yeah.
Junkab, sonable,
the same, the same,
rhythm?
Uh, uh,
where it was, where I was,
where it was, rastando,
so, no, so,
so, no, sonable,
it was, it,
no, no, no,
As you know, just
running.
Yeah.
Rodando.
So,
this,
one day
he'll tell
to my
family,
we're not
we're
very amicions
and I'm
and she's
sure, and
is that
there's not
and there's
no there
so.
Passed
days
and he
to come
to my ex-spos
no see
if that
day not
was the
day,
I know,
but we're
we're in
the second
that's the
song
that's the
we say,
oh,
that's that
there's that
no
the most chisdoso.
Look,
I'm going to
get to
get to be
a canica
and they're
very chichito
so I'm
up the
sillie of the
cello and
then he
had to
he'd
and then it
and then
he'd
go to
and then
he said
make
do that
I'm
I'm
I've been
called
I'm
I've been
been
constantly
and then
then he
he'd
he'd be
to be
that's weird
is that
is that
is that
is
it's
it's
it's
it's
And it was rodando,
I was rodando.
So, clarito, it's
I hear about
so we're
no,
then we knew
that's up here.
And then
we were all
too,
it was all
had all over
the door
and it was
we're gonna
the canica.
So,
obviously
we could we
could be
nothing,
but we
didn't
not see
not even
not said
to be
another
thing,
I was,
and I
know,
and the
chistososos
is that
I'm
I'm
And from where it's,
to the
kitchen.
Wow.
And this
passed.
How's the time
you?
In this
apartment,
I was two
years.
And the
two years
occurred?
And yeah
me passed.
I think
the final.
I think
about it
was,
I just
just,
I just,
I just,
we just,
we're just,
so,
there,
there are,
there are
a story
of a
department of
Mexico,
that was
supermating
that was
supermature,
that this
chica
count
that she's
a
move to
a
department
just
when she
at a
point of
a lot
she's
she's
she's
she's
very
very
very much
for situations
is
about
so
they're
and
they're
so
I'm
a
person
I think
there
there
I think
there
I think
I
maybe
I'm
I'm
my
new
I
was
always
so
always
so
I'm
that
was
that
was
that
was
when
come the month of
the
we're
we're
religious
and we
don't have
and they're
it's that
why do you
don't mean
that's
no more
when you
get to happen to
get to
get to happen
two occasions
that I
heard about
some
a little
the room
like if
someone
of a stature
very
little
didn't even
I'm
imagine the
of a
little
even more
more
more than
a two
patas
I was coming
in the
quarter.
I was
I'm
to see
to be
and
nothing.
And of
I'm
I'm a
my wife
and my
husband and
he said
you're
and then
they're
so they're
when I
were
when I
was putting
attention
when I
think that
maybe
was because
I'm
very
altered
very al-
very al-pendient
and
and of
some
way
I'm
was
that was
going to
other
point
but I
was
to
get to
to
So, me kept like,
giving the benefit of the
question about
what was living there.
The day that
me did a fear
is that they're
to sonar the
pacitos.
My husband
not is the
house.
He will get
to the day
next by situations
of the
and I said,
no,
no,
I know that
is that
is not
to give a
little bit of
confidence,
I'm going to
get to
take the
door,
and when
I'm
coming to the
cella,
the door
the door
is able,
the
pass-tits out of the
quarter and
they're in
the other
quarter that
we're in
a little bit of
a lot of
the same.
And I don't
I'm not
I'm not
put to get the
eye.
When I
went to get
the second,
I'm
he said,
and he says
sure that
not some
that's
not,
no,
the
really is that
it's
that's
they're getting
to be the
no, well,
so,
then so,
so,
so I'm
what I'm
to do you,
want to
let's get,
to be
a little,
someone who
can
make a
do a
clean in
the
house and
he said
we're
we're
we're
thinking
and that
we're
that's
a second
that's
a day.
He's
going to
get back
that
after the
day
after the
last of
the night
I'm
going to
I'm going to
the
new
because that
day
did especially
he's
especially
a lot
I'm
put it
and I
do
a
little
I'm
I'm
doerment and
of a sudden
I'm sure
I'm in
quiet I'm
going to see
how time
it's a
time ago
and the baby is
involved in
sabana
colding
to the
cune
like you
was like
you're doing
and I'm
I'm out of
my
department
and I'm
my spouse
and here
here we
we're not
we're
we're not
we've got
we've got
never back
nothing
no so it's
but there
there was
there
there was a
there
was a
dwe.
She
me
she says that
she
is a
dween
I don't
know.
I don't
idea.
Because there
there's
many
stories in
around the
dendas
and he
can't
they're
they're
they're
they
they're
they're
they're
sometimes
so it
and it
a
kind of
a
thing
but she
think
that's
a
dween
you
do you
think
I think
I'm
don't
think I
don't
say
you or
no say
some
they're
the brus
is
a
story,
but I've
heard that
I've seen
about the
story of
other people
to talk about
about
about
no,
no,
never,
and to
not,
no,
okay,
the family
has been more
of spirits
of spirits
of spirits
of, okay
the situation
that was
when
they were
together
when they
were in the
house
this
prima and
they were
they
were the
was
what was
they were
at the
night,
it was
nine
10
of the
night and
they were the
part of the
part of the
way of the
way to the
doing the
playing the
and they're
not you know
they're not
those people
they're not
they're adult
they're
they're
they're
they're
they're
like they're
but only
only like
yeah
yeah
from up
not
no
no
no
yeah yeah
and so
all you
all
all
all until
the novio of my
prime
even
after the
Even the wife of my pribo.
Yeah.
Also, also.
Yeah.
Also,
I'm just so we're
we're saying,
at the more
we're saying,
but also,
they're not,
so,
are the,
so,
are the
people,
I mean,
the colony,
or they're,
they've lived
all the
life there,
I mean,
I've been,
so,
people,
people,
but,
but coincide
much in that,
so,
in that,
in that there
there had
people that
there had
people that
,
me,
me,
I was talking to a primro that he
saw how there
gallinazazes
and all,
yeah,
yeah,
in the patio,
where was their
house.
So,
they were to live
there,
and then they
ran to be,
but there,
I mean,
they,
I,
practiced,
magic,
yeah,
I mean,
obviously,
I think,
we're,
so,
but also,
it's like,
like,
no,
it's like,
not so,
it's pretty,
in your
case,
it's a
way,
like,
you're,
you sound?
Yeah.
Yeah.
In the case
Those primos
Are you?
I think
They're
They're just
They're not
Fasil
I'm
I'm
No, I'm
Not as
Like, I'm
No, I'm
They're
I'm
I'm a prime
That's
My man,
I said,
His dad
And she,
And she,
Yeah,
I'm trying
She's,
She's of
She's,
In the
Hospitales.
She's,
She's,
I'm not
I'm in
what I'm
what I don't know I don't know what hospital.
This, so,
he's going to go to the
window.
If you did, you know,
you know, I think you know,
the case of Debiani.
Well, my
prima no, I live here.
So,
so, he went to
go to work,
and we said,
no, I could
do with me
to know, and I'm,
and I said,
I thought,
I was just over what
was going to,
so,
and so,
and me said,
is that I
I just, I
was I
saw, I just
and yeah,
she's just
he's a
yeah, yeah,
yeah,
don't,
no,
don't,
don't you
don't put in
nervous,
so,
I don't know,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah, yeah,
yeah,
I don't know
, I'm gonna,
yeah, I,
yeah, I,
I, in those
things,
no,
I'm gonna
but I'm
yeah,
um,
this,
and she's
like,
like,
kind of,
no,
no,
no,
no,
don't,
no,
no,
not,
not,
and the of those that they like
like, oh yeah,
what I think,
I mean,
I'm like,
I'm like,
she's that I'm
like, she's
she's more,
she,
pass in the days
and,
and see,
and then I,
see,
I said,
yeah,
you know,
she said,
and we said,
and we
talked,
a little
of that,
I think,
that she,
I,
I,
also, I,
don't,
I,
I,
I,
I, I,
I,
but she,
no,
I don't,
I mean,
I,
I,
I,
I,
that we,
that we have
a
very
really
I don't like
to talk about
because she
I was
because she
tell me what
you're going to
you're going
to say,
oh,
no,
no,
no,
yeah,
there's much
that no,
I'm
there's
that I'm
that I'm
said,
now in the
city where
he's living
and he
and he lives
with his
husband and
with her
and her
and so
he said
that she
she's
in the
same room in
the same
but
the little
I think
she's
in a
couchonc't
part
So she,
I've,
since I've
like a
man
that's like,
that's like
that's like,
so,
no,
he's like,
no he says
nothing,
but she's,
but I'm,
since I've
done,
I'm sure,
I'm not so,
so,
so,
then there's,
there's,
there's,
there,
there's,
like,
so,
so,
like,
like,
so,
so,
So, then,
he said that she's
a guy,
and that he
asked a
his wife,
he's a
question,
you know,
no,
maybe he's
no,
I'm going to
say,
that's here
to say,
he's a boy,
he's a
little,
he's the
major,
she's the
he's the
major,
well,
he's a
good,
but,
well,
he's,
he's,
and he's
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
and he's,
where he
he's,
where he's,
so,
and he
he's,
she,
I know,
I know,
I know, I know, I mean,
to know his son,
that's the type of
things, and she,
and he,
like, he,
he's,
that I,
that I,
that I,
that's,
interesting,
and the
little,
I, so,
no, I,
not,
so,
he's,
that's,
that's,
he's,
I'm going to,
me don't,
so,
I mean,
he's,
he said,
he's,
he's,
he's,
like,
well,
it's,
no,
no,
it's not,
it's not,
it's,
no,
I'm,
so,
so,
with that naturality.
So I feel that,
I've done
I'm a
doubt,
I'm a
little bit of
okay.
thence,
all the family that is, to the
mother, and she has,
and she has a
mother, and she has
not really, no, no,
no, no, no,
no, no, no, they don't
they're just too
inco
with
that
and she
respect,
I mean,
for example,
I,
well,
the,
yeah,
the last
the
other than
I'm not
a lot of
a lot of
even I
put to investigate
and she
like,
I don't,
I don't,
I don't,
I don't know
to know
of that
but I
think she
she,
yeah,
because you
think she
she's
because she
had passed
things very
intense,
so she
she has
seen,
she has
seen,
my tia
my Taya
that
fell
she,
I,
she,
I,
that
a new
of
them
of them
so
it's a
even though
he took
to hear
my mom
I'm
I'm
and I'm
always try the
tacones
they're
that they're
talking
when I
saw when
I was
when it
is
it's
they're
they're
they're
they're
there
they're
in the
house
in the
another
just
they
just
they're
one
one
a
and
and
they
they're
they
they're in a ventanal
very great
and has to
know that the
imprinted
does to do
just,
they're all
they're in
curtains,
but,
no see
if they've
not seen,
not I've
not called,
but if
they're,
if they're
the tachones.
It's very
peculiar.
They're
very peculiar
he's the
those
the two of the
the
and it's
he's the
question.
I've
a doubt
in,
I'm
about the
people,
that the
places have
something.
You perceive
the places that
have been like
an energy
negative or
or something?
I think
I'm not
something not
something
but the
places
guard in a
energy.
But yes.
Yes,
those
places have
it's
that imagine
to enter a
place where
they're in
a altar
of many
and then
then you
know,
so that
that's
the doubt
to do you
it's the
thing
you know
you've
taken
places that
you're
so you
You remember
to someone
that is
like you
preferridden
or a
situation of
this type of
you say this
feel like this
like you're
not trying,
because
even I'm
attract.
But...
You know,
but it's
a good,
but
sustra
but so
but
so it's
something
is something
very
very notory
for example
the cases
of them
those,
I mean
our children
so,
so,
not they're
not
could be
to be there
we're going to
we're
not parable
to
we're not
to worry?
It was
it's not
it's not
we're incomod and
we're not
not even comod
we're not
we're not
we're not
but it's
that's
there's a
little little
that any
that
anybody
from years
from the
years.
I think
one of my
my
primos
his
his wife
was the
was the
was that
was
was
in this
practice
in this
practices
she was
being
And she was very natural,
the mama,
she said,
like,
she said,
she was in the
she was
she was gonna,
and,
Mom,
because that
that's a
little,
she's a
little,
and my
woman,
well,
the spouse
of my
is,
like,
that's,
she's,
she's in the
corner,
no she's,
she's,
but,
she's,
she's,
she's,
she's,
she,
she's,
she,
she,
she's,
she,
she,
in that she,
she,
she,
she,
she,
I don't think
I said,
but
like I
know
I'm in
a time
with the
other
with my
prims,
this,
it was
inevitable
everything
it was
all we
you know
you know
we'd
people and
that the
and the
and the
and the
feet and
the
and we
know we
and so
it's
but I
never
never
to be
I'll
say
that
this
I'm
I
didn't
I'm
I'm
because
I mean
always
always
always
always
I was
like
like in the
kitchen and he was
like if
no,
I'm rinched
and I'm in front
she said
and just he
never,
I mean,
where he's
he's,
so,
so,
he blew up
like,
like,
like,
like,
someone,
he's,
like,
not something,
he's,
he's,
they're,
they're,
they're,
and I'm
there's,
and I'm
, I'm gonna
know,
the,
the,
or?
He's,
he,
he had,
like,
four years.
He's,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
they're going to say
No, no, no, no,
it's,
I mean,
like,
I was doing a
brianche,
I was doing
and so,
and so,
they're not,
so,
they're not,
I'm going to
the,
they're,
and so,
and the
and the
and they,
so,
what on?
Yeah.
It's that,
if there
are,
there's a
repented,
like,
or,
they,
or,
they got,
or something,
or something,
he went,
and,
and,
me,
so,
Suri,
that she,
she went,
when,
she went
to
to live with
his two
kids to
a house
that was,
he said,
for questions
of the
work,
I'm moved
to the
city,
I'm
to do
so I'm
really a
fear of
these
these questions
of the
contract,
arrendment,
etc.
So,
then I
a very
good
house in a
very good
zone,
in a
good cost.
So,
for me
it's like
something
something
something
they're
doing
doing
because
it's
much
good
so
and I
had
a rach
of a
really
a
really
So,
then
at the
final,
after
to do that
I'm going to
give to
get to
the world
for the
right.
If we're
moving
in the
house,
he said,
I think,
that just
we're just
there's a
last,
and I
talked to
the people
that I
went to,
and me
understand,
and me
permitted
to put
to
back to
and put
to be
to be
getting
to be
in any
problem.
He's
because
the
what was
something
was a
very rare,
but at
the
we were we were just one day in the house and my
kids were in a cell
viewing television.
I'm doing platoes.
And I'm sitting a boca,
I mean,
literally the labios,
soplandome in my
what they're doing,
shh.
No,
something that
you could have you
get to get to
get to get a
book, making me that,
I'm sorry,
it's a lot of
the whole,
all the pill
it was chinita,
me recorrived all the spin of the electrical
and the electricity
bolted, no, there's nothing.
Well, a part of that day
my kids
start to talk
that are listening
passos.
That are passes
in the house.
My other
other son,
that if
someone has
seen a
a sombra,
because has
seen a
that's
a room and
it's a
one day
my
his little
a little
a grito
and when
I'm
going to
see,
he was
lavando
plato
and he
me chisted in the
and I had
heard of the
same as I
said and the
day that for me
was the cabose
is when my
my son
he said it's
that's that
they're talking
that's what
who's what
is the name
my friend
is the name
is the
little that
is the
little
and he said
you know
he's
because he's
because he
he has
he has told
his story
and nobody
he was
he said
in that
he was
in that
when I'm
when I'm
when I'm
he said
no
I'm
I saw the
that
not us
told,
he said
I don't
don't know
so much
they're in
a lot of
so I'm
it's not
that he's
I'm not that
he's about
that he
could have
other places
that they're
that
that's at
that
we're
that
well
well
we're
50-50
you
you
can't
you
can't
you
you're
you
you
do you
do
you
have
in a
or has
been
in
a
in a
place
in
because
in the
you
were
for the department of
of the
right.
Not was properly
the
it's probably the
right.
Would you
live you
in a little
in a
unruhugated?
Well,
yeah,
in my
house.
No, I'm
not sure
in broad
but no.
No,
no,
you can't
do you
do not.
So,
so that
so,
yeah,
that's
in the
day,
no,
no,
no, I'm
no,
no,
no,
no,
I'm,
no,
no,
it's disgusting
too,
I mean,
to get
intrigues and you put
to investigate and say
like, oh,
that's good.
But for
all the days.
It's that
if it's
if it's
really,
well,
what is
enbrugated,
because it's
a word
that right
right,
you know,
you know,
the reality
is that we're
we're talking
more well,
more than a
place, infestated,
it's
that there probably
probably
something something
there
there's a
or,
well,
there can be
various
possibilities,
but one,
what you
want is
is affect
to start. Two,
of some way,
is it
inlazada
and it's
a lot of
the people
or three,
is that's
inlaced
to be inlase
to the
people and
will generate
many
phenomena
very negative
because the
energy of
certain
type
can be
that they
can't
especially,
if in
these cases
because the
people are
in those
that are
in the
they're
in the
I'm
you're
let's
these
many
these
things
like
some
are
some
bromas, because
they're in the moment
in the moment in
that's
only,
they're doing
to make
sound in a
certain sort of
and that's
and they're
in effects
specials
of a
particular,
not it's
not they
understand
how we
and that
they're
how to
make that
we're
that we
think you
are a
phantasm?
Who
know,
I think,
I think,
I think
that,
I don't see
in this
podcast,
but I
was
I was listening one.
Uh-huh.
Yeah
will be
some time
a bit of
so it
you know,
it's
a bit of
but I'm
to put a
or to
or I'm
to call
because
at the
maybe I'm
not a
much I'm
going to be
to describe it
is that
was that
was a
little
was I was
with his
oldita
and was
a
one
a
domino
the
ballita
let's
we're
going to
the
little
the little
no
no I
don't know
I'm
go on
for that
you're
so they're
not
you're putting
bad and the
typical
practices of
ballita
no no
no
I'm
I want
to go
I'm
that's
that's
no
no
it's
well
but
no
but I
want
but I
don't
I'm
so I'm
the little
the
little
she gets
to
He passes the time-a-tip-a-tube-cita,
and he says that he's trying
trying to enter a
house.
And he goes and he's
scone and pass
for the
vano,
I mean, but
he had a
fear.
Total that the
sir,
he,
he never went to,
no-se,
he never
said to,
he said,
he was,
like,
he said,
he was,
he said,
uh,
for,
for not to go-
to go-my-s.
Dice,
says,
they're,
many,
many,
many,
many,
many,
many,
And he's the house of his bowlitas,
which is the same
house.
He's there
visit,
he's trying
to open the
door to be
to go to
go to
a boy and he
said,
he's he
when he's
when he's
only in
different times.
What he
could have
thought,
if he
had
thought,
that was
a phantasm.
That
good
story.
A
me,
I'm
he doesn't
thinking
much.
I mean,
I know,
I know,
I know,
that's
our dimension, that's
my clear,
that at the
more not is
our time,
or that's
a lot of
our time,
but what is
the definition of
a phantasm?
Is that
that's a very
good point.
No,
there's a
good definition
of a
fantasy.
I think there
many
phenomena
that we
are there
are we
that we're
that's,
I think,
the spirit
human.
Yeah,
so,
I don't
see in
all the
cases,
because
there are
there's
people
that's
people
that's
the person,
the
that's,
that's,
that's like your mom.
Yes.
It's doing
to pass for
another person.
What is the
intention?
The chick
that's,
that's,
that's,
the mom really
is a woman,
that's a
spirit that's
a form of
someone that
is a
person,
a big location,
a person in
two points.
And exists
this phenomenon
with variants.
In one's
variants,
both are
both are
both are
so if you're
talking, those
you can't
do you,
but in
others
there are
bilocations
in
that's just
like a
projection
spiritual.
They're
that's
like a
projection
of crisis
when a
person is
when a person
is a
point of
in a
point of
a situation
very precaria
there.
There are
people who
have seen
in the
other
point and
they
can't
have
to
contact with
the
person
and other
they
have seen
and
and it
and it
resulta
that person
that person
falles
that
that moment
in
that you
saw
in the
moment
so
it's
like
it
depends
there are cases
here
they've
told the
story of
a child
that's
a accident
and see
a lot
and all
then says
there was
there was
an accident
out of
the
board to
open in the
door
no
all there
so
all
everything
so all
there
in the
reflection
in the
light
there's
there
no
there
like
something
something
or
something
that
or
something
that
I'm
something
I'm
could
to be,
could have,
and not
I can
have,
and I'm
a kind of
disface
temporal,
in the
that's
in the
type of
phenomena,
in the
you're
in the
you're
seeing to
you're
or you're
a little
there.
There's,
no see
where is,
and I
don't remember
if it
they're
here,
I
told the
story
that I
heard in
other
podcast,
but it's
a story
that in
some
moment
he
was
and it
is that
in a
a
house in a reunion, a house that
I had been living in many years,
she opened the door of the entrance,
they're in the middle of a room,
at the commoer, there's a
placey there's a lot of
a second-pice.
They're in the coedor,
the door of the entrance,
the door had a key,
then all are alltees
and all right and turn to
get to a woman with a
old old, the woman
and where they see,
and where they,
the owners of the house
totally impacted,
to do, then they're going to
then see them.
So, they're
behind the
woman,
get to the
end of the
door to do you,
and it's
where it's
where they're
to make the
door of the
door,
where they
can't
enter to
the court,
they're
that the
window,
and they're
seeing the
when they
they're
no,
no, no,
no,
no,
no,
no person,
but
pass an
part of
months and
and it
happened the
same
and it
happened,
and it
happened
the same
scene.
No
I don't
know if
they've been
the idea
that had
been a person
that much
time before
if there
was a
place in
that was a
little
a house
a type colonial,
a
house that
a
house that
many years
so
so I
don't know
that
they were
that was
that
was a
thing,
that was
a little
there's
there
there
there
there
there's
there
with that
people
that
So,
still repetiendos
that pattern.
And there's
certain stories
that are about
the people who
I'm going
that's
listening,
never take that
decision.
Recora
that there are
lines that
you help
for that you
think you
think you know,
because when you're
you're
not you're
there's
there's
there's
people who
have
done
with these
spirits
and all
those,
those who
have
got to
have
people who
have done
that have
self
desvivided
not
they're
they're in
a type
loop
very
strange.
So it's
it's
that people
that have
had been
contact and
they're
and they're
people who
live in
their house
then you
say, then
you say
to some
how you
do you
doce?
Yeah,
to the
more
that they're
having the
same
ideas
than they're
to
devivirce
no,
no, no,
no, no,
no, no,
no,
no, no,
no,
no, no,
no,
no,
no, no,
no,
no,
it's
it's,
Like, I don't know exactly how is the Spirit
Human. Obviously, it's something very difficult to
like to describe a detail,
but me does the impression
that the Spirit Human, or
you do you leave, or it's aatado.
And when it's at it depends on what.
And it would be it in that act,
it's atado to the act.
And then they're reviving, and it revivin,
and it revivin, and it reviv.
So it's
To be it
What I'd
Like I'd like
A lot of
Just to be living
repeatedly
The moment
Most atroous
And not
To be able
To get
I think
It's terrible
But
But also
Is there
Has heard
Of the
Phantamas
Of
Yes
There
There's
There's
In many
Of
And I'm
To know
One person
A person
That's
She has a
Aftes
She's
She's
And she
And she was the chief of
the Enfermeras of the
hospital.
And she,
and she said,
I was,
he, he went to attenders,
we, we're
we're asking,
she gave us,
and he gave
the medicines
that needed my
brother, and
20 minutes
then after the
doctor to
and he said,
no,
yeah,
he came,
that person,
and where
we said,
the chabh,
she'd
where he's
where it
got to,
and then
my friend
was the,
my friend,
I said,
I don't,
I didn't,
I'm
my
brother
there's
my
woman there's
me, I'm
I'm sure, I'm
I'm sure,
she's like
she's she
yeah,
sure, she's
she's
she's, she
she's,
and then the
medicine and if
you're not
I don't have
idea,
yeah we've
tried to do
do this
investigation
to be
to be able to
some ministers and
no, but
we
know, but not
we know
who's
that person
and not
they're in the
camera.
No,
it's just
the doors
that's
open and see
when we
have been in
so we've been
so it
there's
some kind of
of spirit
if they're
spirits that
are linked
to the
work
that they
were the
part of
their part of
their
life and
they're
so
so it's
it's
strange
it's
kind of
it's
maybe it's
a
form
of these
people
you
what
you
first.
A
What is a
circle
vicious.
A circle
vicious
for them.
So,
that
a
way,
not they're
not
they're
they're
that they
think
their
work
still being
here.
Oh,
so you
think we
we're,
we're
to suppose,
that
are the
part of
that's the
labor
that they're
doing.
You think
that's
not in this
question,
but not
you've taken
to hear
that my
abolitos
that's
that I
don't,
no,
no,
I've
I've seened
but
I've
that we're
that we're
that's,
that's,
that's,
that my
abuelito
me's
care about,
I mean,
I mean,
and I
do they do this,
and,
and also,
I mean,
I'm going,
I'm a
sure,
they know,
they're not
they're not
they're not
they're
here, but that
they're
when they
really a
and that's
a lot of
someone?
Yeah.
Okay.
When
it's a
family
and you
you see,
that's
a
line with those
people?
A little.
And,
and in a
way,
these
families,
interceden,
and they're
okay,
okay.
I've
heard also,
many many
stories of
this type,
and I
have talked,
a pair
of stories
very strange
that from
the psychology
is if
can't
explain,
because the
mind is
too
poweros
and could
have to
have some
different
and it
but it
also
that's
so much
that's
think that
all the
in all the
cases,
not necessarily
all the
cases have to
have been with
psychology if
could have
something.
I took
a person
that was
a depression
tremendous,
yeah
was having
had to
the
had to be
with the
family
and was
a person
very
very,
very,
and a
rise
of this
fally
not
he was
he
had been
years
and
really
for
more
that
was
trying
to
desecho and a
day
he's
going to
get to
get to
get to be
perfectly normal
yeah
totally
normal
like not
not I
had been
in the
last
that person
was a
convosient
then there
was a
time a
little
a little
before
the
time
much before
in his
in his
most
before
the
they're
they're
why?
Why?
I mean
did a
day
for
what?
What?
And he
He said
He said
He said
He said
He said
He said
He said
He said he
He said he's
He said
Cyanne
Come,
We need
We need
We need to
He said
It's something
Real
I was
I was talking
With this
person
I was in this
court
But I was
When I'm
When I'm
I'm coming
There's a
Mesa Blanked
And there
two sills
blanks and
said,
Sientate.
And me
say,
let me
to get me
to get
for
for a
don't
you're not
you're
doing to
get to
say,
I'm
you know,
I'm
I'm
but
let me
get to
get to
get a
so you
need to
get
to
let me
for
I'm
just
and I
think I
he's
I'm
saying I
know
changed
my
form of
thinking
that
I'm
that
this
person
still
a
person
still
different
And yeah, I'm in
PAS.
That's still alive
His soul.
Yes,
like if
were to other
level of
life,
to be the
that's
a access
visual or an
access so
sensible,
so far,
but there
says,
I'm sure
that that's
a dream,
and this
is strange
because they
had been
had been
not
nothing
that
had
been
so
so
so it's
very rare
the
change
that
our
mind is
very
powerful
it
can
do
the
effect
placebo,
but I've heard
I've heard
I've heard
I've heard
I've
heard of
I'm in
probably I'm
it's a
question of
talking to
talk with
some
a problem
and see
if it
enter in
probability
or not
but
they're
very interesting
you
you're
you in
what you
think you
what are
your
things
like
spirituales in
general?
In the
the God
or in
the Jesus
that's
in the
cross.
Yes,
I assisted a
church and
but I don't
think that
God is that
I had a
friend that I
said I'm
she was a
she was a
yeah, it's
that God
is a question
of geography
for us
for us
and the
virgin here
in Latin America
is the
virginita
and the
Christo
that's
so that
but
if you
you go
you go
to you
to India
no
yeah
she is
Buddha
for them
for those
those is a
I'm going to
like that's
like a force
I don't know
I think
I'm like
I'm
I'm like
so they're not
not precisely
people people
not precisely
people
not okay
For putting their name,
what number
What number
to put you
to
these
entities?
I don't know,
something
something that's
a little
that's over
over a
different dimension.
For example,
the people
that are not
the photos,
I don't
always always
they're so
there's
like,
there are
there's
normal,
so that
that are not
that's not
even even
don't even
don't even
don't
even even
even been
seen a
video,
it was a
famousio
this
I don't know
in what
year,
still
still there's
no
no
they're doing
and they're
going to be
doing a person
and there's
a little bit
so you've been
there's a
opportunity to see
yeah,
yeah,
I've seen
many people who
yeah,
yeah, at
so they're
so they're
trapped those.
So,
you what you
what you're
doing is like
a conversion
to two worlds,
or so
of two
realities
different,
that of
in different
times,
in different
times.
At least
without even
just never
just
for example,
for example,
the
you know,
the
of the
person that
that's
if you
If you had seen a
kid
a
kid
a little
a little
a little
a little
for example,
what I'm
it's the
it's that we
know, it's that
we've been to
think about it.
To get it
to be thinking,
to the
other time.
That's interesting.
So,
you're
talking to
that paranormal
is because
it's inexplicable
but
but not necessarily
it's spiritual.
It can be
a phenomenon
physical.
Or is a
phenomenon
that has a
convergence of realities or
something that
not is properly
the spirit.
I think
much in the
spiritism.
I mean,
completely.
There are
things that
not even
can't explain
but,
and,
if I think
in that there
something
that's a
bad,
also me
has to
live it,
but also
I'm inclined
much
for the other
part.
I mean,
for that
I said
define,
I mean,
what is the
definition
of
what is the
definition?
Because
a lot
to us
we're in
the
but I
I don't know
I don't know
but I feel
that there's more
more of where
more of the
more tela of where
I'm not
precisely
people who
there's
there are
there are
there's many
definitions
of phantasm
spirit and
spectro
those that I
have been
I don't
they don't
they
in si
the phantasm
also
also
it's
there
many
of the
epimologies
or of
the
other
the words
that
we know
They're
normally
of the
Greek,
provien
of the
they're
like,
they're
like,
there's
languages,
no,
there's
the letter
of the
psychologists,
that's like
a,
and it
could say
with a
little bit
a bit of
a
middle,
that's
that's
it's
means,
or a
mind,
but
also it
means,
it's
because,
it's because,
it's because,
it's a
way,
the conscience,
the
the
kind of
a seretetio,
like a
phantasm.
So,
always
have been
definitions that are relatively
vagues because
they're in marcos
of creedions
temporal, so
in what I'm
the people of
that year when
invented this
word and that
he's referred
with that.
It's a
situation very
difficult because
the day of
today that's
has developed
the science in
many many
camps,
there are
things that
are things
that are
things.
And then
then there
has re-actualized
these questions
also.
There's many
many questions
that with
the time
were
disappearing
because
that they were
in superstitions
that were
to explain that
they could explain to
other ways
and they
they're all
totally just
all the
day of
there's not
there's a
definition
like correct
are the
but the
the Alancardek
but the
also you can't
be to
a person
that can
have visions
more
there to
some
there
there
there
there
people who
people
that can
not
not even
even
of Julio Berni
that makes
some of
those people
that's talking
of machinaries
that they're
even
for their
time and
70 years
or 100
years
after the
man
he's
so they
are they
they're doing
something and
they're
and that
they're
and that
so you're
so
there's
there's
there
can
get
some
so time
but
so you
don't
so you
can't
you
can't
the
people who
they're
there's
limited to
their time
and to his
creencers
of their
and the
time and the
and the
and the
things of
the
and the
question of the
question.
I'm in the
day of
I think
that the
definitions
of phantasm
spectro,
demonio
and so
are difficult
for not
not I mean,
is that
not I'm
not called
but
we're not
not actualized
so.
So,
so I think
there are
many
there's
confunders
with the
phenomenon
with the
thing
that's
yeah
completely
what
what's
that
what's
Yeah, of the stories that you've
You've told you,
you've told your story
what you've lived
the most aterrador?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, what is?
The one of the
mirror,
the being,
the start I
recarragada in...
That is the
that I've said
that you've
that's been
What is the
story more
macabra
that you've
heard of
your family?
And between
your primos
and you
you know,
you know,
see that
that's not
me to be
them all
they're doing
the same,
I'm like
the
little
of the
primos
A unad of that
I've been
completely in other
side of the
I mean
they were in the
same
quadra
but those
that I'm
the
of the imprint
that I'm
took
to listen to
in plattics
in
my auntie of
myattie
like
what I'm
what's
what's
what's the
other
and I
know
in the hour
of the
merienda
and I
know
that
that
that
doors.
For the
same
of that is
a
business,
right?
I don't
if you
do you
do you
enter,
and you
and to
enter to
the house
there's
like three
porters
subes
the escaleras
and their
house
is the
plant
at the
car
and so
you're
you see
you see
you
the patio
is an
imprint
and
the
two
pieces
that is
where
you
say the
divider
the
the
ventana
grand
the
house
of the
imprant
Perfect.
Okay.
In that
then,
I was in
the time
of the
messenger.
Yes.
And,
this,
my prima
are,
are they
are the
major,
and I'm
two primos,
that I'm
right,
uh,
this,
uh,
is she
in the chat,
in the
computer,
the imprenta.
It's like
it were like
the two,
three of the
morning,
it was a
day and
chatala.
And,
so they're
they're going to
start
the doors
to the
internet,
so,
the
the new
like that
like that's
like that
so I'm gonna
the door
and then
so say
it's
so they're
so
it's
so they're
so
so all it
because
relatively
is the
same
yeah
yeah
he said
my
my
my
one of my
my
my
my
yeah
she's
yeah
she's
making
a lot
yeah
it's
now it's
so
it's
so it's
so
like all
he
He's a little,
and he's
seeing all
that's
and they're
to start the
doors, but
now they're
to do.
So,
yeah,
I mean,
so,
they're going
and they're
on the escalars,
suben,
and they're
saying,
is that we're,
we're not
on these
things,
no,
they're not
to open the
door,
and then
then they're
then they're
then,
so,
that's the
thing,
and it was
the same
where they're
that they're
they're the
They're, they're the
Pernas, yeah.
Okay.
It's that same
place.
And the doors
were and they
were and what
they were?
Plumas.
Plumas.
Yes.
No.
No, I don't
record that in
that occasion
they've seen
something,
they've seen
of the night,
but that
occasion, in
specific, no.
It was the
fact of the,
I was,
they were in
a sudden,
it was over here
the point,
and then
it was a question,
it was in the
madruva.
You have
been in that
And you
And a Tad
A good
A Vibra?
Oh, no
No, no
No,
No,
it's really
Yeah, so
It's really
Pesite
Pesado?
So,
Sienta
Pesado?
So,
Yeah.
Some part?
I'm especially,
of some,
the area?
The area
The area?
The area
The imprints?
And so,
how much
years?
I mean,
I was,
I was, I was
I was,
I was,
I don't live
there,
but I practically
yeah,
when I was
when I
I don't know
I'm
I don't
I don't
I'm a
but I remember
that they
between them
those people
I mean, I mean
yeah, I mean
yeah, I'm
maybe 10 years
and I was like,
oh yeah, it's
that it was like
it was like
yeah,
it was like
yeah
that was
yeah, that's
you know,
I'm more
so yeah
no, no,
no,
no,
tell me the
question me
for a
no,
yeah,
no,
and never
me involucererer
in this
type of
apart,
but
then we're
we're just
we're like
the
family
Christian
it was like, no, no,
so you see, you see that
after that your mom
has been used to be
Christiana,
they're like,
they're like,
well, no, no,
no, no,
not so,
but if,
at the more,
like,
oh, I don't,
don't know how,
I mean,
so,
they're doing,
they're,
they're doing,
they're,
they're,
yeah,
or at the more,
they're,
they're not,
or,
or at the way,
in reality,
if they were
in a little bit
in a little bit,
and they're
okay,
not you're,
not you're,
not they,
not they,
No, no, no, I mean, what I
I was, what I'd say, it was for my tisks
that were talking about
and they were, so, I know, and I said,
like, I can't know more.
Duda.
Your mom, how's
hermonds have?
Oh, eight.
Oh, okay.
Because I think in total,
they were nine.
Total of nine, okay.
So, then,
to all those,
to those,
they'd pass up,
or just to the major?
No, to all.
A todos.
A todos.
And only,
and the most of his
children,
are the ones that they
occurs.
So,
so,
we're
so we're
not respect to,
all of them
is going to
and then
it's been
the question
generational.
Figate
that's that
it's not
difficult
because in
reality,
they were,
I mean,
they're,
they're
practice?
And they
did you,
have a
narration of
what they're
in these
practices?
In what
they're not,
I, I
saw that
they had
penulos
and that
they'd
and that
the radio
and the
They were you asked to do you ask them to do with the spiritus or the pendulum?
A both.
A both.
Only had creencers of Pancho Villa or there were other spirits?
No, of more spirits.
Recurreds to anyone?
No.
No, figgottie that, right that, pardon, me, me, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
I, I remember something, I don't know if spirits, but in some occasion,
some of my primos
yeah
was the
I'm in
I'm in
that when
that way that
that was
so that I'm
like that
I was
like that
I was
yeah it's
me had much
and in
really it was
because
it was
it was
very curious
you know
you know
my
my prim
is the
his his
his
his
he's the
he's not
this
he was
there
did
things and
things and
of
situations
or
socesos
but
You know, you know, what was that he
passed?
It's like,
of the,
no,
I don't see,
if you're doing,
you know,
this,
you want to,
um,
marra a nilito
and,
and putle the limon,
and,
I mean,
I'm trying.
Obviously,
no,
I don't know
to do.
And something
he's done
bad.
Something he,
he,
he did a,
he,
he, he,
he took a little
and he,
he put a,
he put a,
very, my
my tios
they're going to
where
they're
to do you
and they're
to be able
and he's
he's always
he's always
he's always
like a
way,
but he's
like that
but of
her
her mother
to her
her man
she had
changed
the voice
and there
and there's
a video
I don't
want to
go over to
see
because yeah
imagineate
a
a political
of exorcism
you
you can
you can
you're
you're
you're
all
trying
like
like,
then,
let's
say,
and she
she was talking
in other
idiom,
I don't see
if she
was talking
things that
she was,
in other
voice,
it was a
voice
of a
woman,
grittable
and she
had no
energy.
Physicamite
what
she had
yeah?
Physically
she was
literally
was crying,
she was
probably
was
she
was with
much impotency
that's
that's like
so,
that's
That I saw that
more
what he
was going to
I'm
my friend.
In that
then I'm
I'm saying
we know
we're not
we're in
my house
and I
was still I'm
and I'm
and he's
and me
he's all
yeah la
chalalalal
and we
we're just
and I'm
put it
and she
and
look
here here's the
video
and I
know
no no
it's
no no
it's a
voice
I'm doing
a
I'm doing
a
and he's
and he
and, no, I mean, horrible.
Okay.
I'm describing to
a country.
A scene of a movie
of terror.
No, it's
not even
a lot of
she, it was like,
carienn't
to defend her.
I feel that
she saw what
what was going.
But at the
best,
well,
it was I,
then I'd
I'd like
impotency.
When,
he passed
to,
so,
how?
A bit,
I mean,
I think,
like,
two years and
two years,
two years and
made,
so,
you're,
did a
of that?
Yes,
no,
no,
no,
it was
going to happen.
So,
so it's
it's a
thing,
it's a
thing,
it's not,
I'm in the
place
in the
thing was in the
problem.
Your,
your prim was
that's
the ritual,
and your
was the
thing,
he said,
attractu
a little,
something,
something,
something,
so,
to him
to him,
to him,
they're,
they're trying,
to do,
my,
my,
my,
my,
And apart, they tragerman, I think, in a medium, no-se-what-what,
something, obviously, or evidently, something,
that, of course, then, was, that, that's...
That's the same day?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's very interesting, about the entities.
One chick, we're going to call her Marisa.
Marisa me says,
that she said, she was like,
that some of
those
those
those are those
very raros
in your
house.
She,
when
was in
the
time,
of a
time,
from a
time
very,
very,
the
madugada,
that something
was
was in
a
corner,
and he
was
observing,
but
like,
with a
feeling
a
very
that
and he
was
a
tranquillate
because
of a
present,
I'm
really
and he
was a
much
and he
had a
little bit,
and
he'd
I was
a
little
and when I
never saw the
little bit of the
couple of the
her wife
her say,
not you're
doing ideas
she consumed a
lot of
then she said
you're saying
you're
you're saying
you're
she's
that in
serious she
really she
really
so total
that a
day that's
the party
she's
he's
and he
he said
let's
you know
you're not
you're
so you know
you're not
because this is
a
Nina.
So,
you know
you're not
very
at this
house.
No,
you know
not you're
not going to
let us in
pass.
In this
house,
no
you're saying.
I said,
I think
that those
last words
that were
a clave
because I
sent I
that from
that I
was out of
my
house and
me
and I'm
and I
not in the
madugated
it.
I'm in the
day.
I sent me
never see the
second to
never see the
night.
Now I had
that,
of a
I was
to get in the
car.
And then I'm
to see to
get to
get to get
in the
time.
It's
a certain
way you
get a
time.
And it's
like,
you know,
you know,
that's
all, because it's
all.
And it
had to
get to
get to
get to
all the
car.
All right.
And it
was in a
corner,
specifically in
a skin.
Just in
the salon
in the
I'm in
the cell in the
not the side of the
door,
but in the
extreme
contrary,
there,
he said,
and it was
so it's
that I'm
that I'm
that I'm
to get to
the final
to start the
court.
I was,
I was trying
to get to
get a
more than
the other
for different
things,
and I'm
and they
they're all
the
and all
and I'm
that
a lot of
a part
of me
said,
it's super
suggestion
that,
you,
until
a day
a company
of
Oh, no, I don't want to be
to be here to
I'm going to say,
I'm going to say,
I'm going to say,
no, no,
you know,
you know, no,
you know,
not you see,
the other end of the
door, it's like
if it's like a
woman,
there's a little,
and when me
said that's,
I'm saying,
that's,
I'm saying,
that's what I'm
and I see,
it's something
we're not,
we're not really,
so it's,
then it's,
so it's,
so it's,
there's,
and it's,
and they're,
they're gonna
it,
of form parasitaria, not
looking
places in
where to get
like a
like a
like a lot of
like you
like you're
how you're
how much
that's,
yeah,
it's a
really,
it was a
that's the
most chistos
so move it
muelele
pebble the
teche and
get it
and you
see and
and whatever
that was
he did you
do you
do it
took to my
vicin and
he took to
me ex-spos
yeah
I don't
he never
he never
he never
he told
a
that he seemed
like if
he had
subed the
murder,
the typical
experience,
but he
can't guarantee
anything,
he said,
he said,
but so,
but it's
much, I mean
I'm not so.
So,
when we came
to live to
back,
I'm going to
go back,
I'm going to
pass things,
well,
one's always
try the cellar.
This,
you know,
you know,
if you're
you're going to
do you go's
the cellular,
so you're
like you're
like the
accessory or,
no?
That time,
we had
we had
like,
I'm like
overanky
and the
situations
I was
to get a
and he practically
he was
down to
or at
maybe
watching the
television
but he
was always
a bit of
a little
and it's
a time
it was
like the
morning
and then
I'm just
I'm just
I'm just
I'm just
I'm
yeah
I'm
I'm sorry
I'm
what I'm
what
what was
no
it was
that
first
first
I was
I was in
the
And she, she
heard, like if in the
kitchen chocarren
some of the
no, they're
like, like,
like, they're
like, they're
in the masses
of the
services, like,
like,
like,
and I'm,
and I'm trying to
not present
attention, and I
still in the
my view.
And so,
the fact,
I was,
like, I'm
sort of,
sogestionated,
and,
um,
then,
then,
then,
then,
then,
then,
So, it's
I'm called. I said in the
I'm at the
I'm
a bit of
I'm sure,
I'm sure,
I'm sure
I'm going to
go to
him,
and I'm going to
go to
he'll go
no,
he's all
he's not,
so we're
not, I mean,
I said,
no,
man,
I'm sure,
I'm
so I'm
so,
no, we're
back him
back to
the other day
in the
morning,
and he
was a
back,
that was the
thing,
but it's
that was
so,
but I'm
I said, but just
before,
you know,
that's
I'm sure,
and so,
and a part of
there,
he had been,
he said,
he's for your
cause,
I never had
lived,
I never cried
in the
phantasmas,
and I said,
I said,
I mean,
I always
me always
me were in
that type of
things,
and I
think,
that they were
to be
to be able to
to
be to be
with my
family,
and never
they never
never was
nothing,
but,
but I
did,
I,
So then
so,
you know,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
my respects,
I said,
yeah,
my respects,
I mean,
my respects,
was the only
experience that
did it,
uh,
when my,
we,
we,
we,
we,
we,
we had,
and he
had been,
the,
the,
yeah,
what's the
,
so the best,
well,
and so,
so,
so,
I think,
I think,
he,
I think,
he,
he,
he said,
and then,
he said,
he
I was a
man
that he
did this
and he
said
and I think
he was
my
my wife
he said
but it was
it was a
man
long
a man
of a baby
was a
man that
was so
me
I'm
so I
so
so I
said
so I
don't
no
I'm
no me
I'm
imagine
I
said I
I'm
I'm
I
I'm
this is
this is
very
this is
my
I'm
The story of a
subscriber
that was a
story that
we've got
a good
Paco Arias
that he
sent a
brother
and he
mentioned I
about these
lamps that
were in the
80s and
those 80s
and they were
some
lightas
all the
lighted
and they'd
the part
of the
above
and you
met you
some
batteries
grandotas
and
you
even
even
an armato
too
really
really
the
really the
really
not
so
really
so
even
illuminated
they'd
they'd
they'd
just to
you're
you're
they're
like a
parpadear.
Well,
I'm
a story
related to
those
lampas
and there
was a
subscriber
and you
don't
manches
me
you've
I've
I've
I've
never got
never
I've
never got
the
mind and
I'm
and I
and it
I'm
when
when it
was
a
little
we're
we're
about
the initials
of the
80.
We'd live out of a city
Grand, we've
like totally in
the periphery,
but I'm talking
to 40 minutes
of the city.
So,
so it was a
little bit of
that it was
that it was like
a little.
So,
because we were
so we're
that we
didn't even
we'd even
look at the
side,
and if you
were the
world, you were
in the
sky,
so we're in the
world.
We're just
we're so far
so far
we're saying
that
were things.
I, at
When I heard
When I was
In this time
I had like 13
years
I didn't
I'd like
the stories of
So I'm
I'd
I'm just
I'm
Like that's
But it's
But a day
So it
So it
So I'm
I'm
Dormia
And I'm
And I'm
And I'm
Because
When my
Pops
I used
I said
I'm
I'm used
I'm
I'm gonna
I'm
I'm
I'm
And I
I'm
So then,
I always
I'd
always
I'm
I'm doing this lamp at.
and I'm doing
and I'm doing
and I'm doing
and where I'm
there's a
car to 10
centimeters of me
is a man
that's being
I'm
That nerve
Tere the gritty
The light the lamp
A bit the lampa
Pappah
Papa
Papa
Papa
no,
I don't
10 seconds.
My papa
will get
a little
but at the
time,
but at the same
there's a lot,
that's the time,
protectors of
the window.
No,
the house,
of the
cases,
even to have
these are the
little of
the city,
nobody even
about there.
There were
other.
There were
the colchon
the days
that's
that's
much
hot.
And it's
not
a place.
It was a
place.
This is a
most of the
way.
A year
after we
we're
getting to
the
house,
a
I'm
not
never brought
to
not.
And when
when we
went to
the
window
in the
the
has humed. And where
me see,
he's a
smile.
And he said,
he's the
man.
And he's
he's the
man.
And he's the
man.
And I'm
to do
that's a
thing that's
something that's
something that's
I can't
be here.
So then
there's a
different there
kind of
there's
characteristics
personales
that you
can't
perceive
something
that can
be
not necessarily
all they
don't know.
Something
something
that's
a little
you
comment about
that
it
would be
that
they're
that's
what we
don't
what we're
doing
and
so
I would
describe it
is maldad
or so
their
intention is
to
you
in one
some
in
others
not
but
what
I
think
I
think
they
think
there
there
there
a
different
different
things
there
there's
a
thing
are so,
I know.
So, I don't
explain to
exactly.
Exactly.
Imagineate
that you
get to your
house,
there's the
lights
all the
lights on the
and you're
not the
you're not
you're
you're in
you know,
you know,
you know.
You know.
Quinted me.
Right,
the
of the
the
who felles
my
she was,
she didn't
have,
no,
I could have
had to be
a bit of
I'm a
time that
we know
we know
we know
but it's
adopted.
This,
the
we've
we've
really
very well
she
very,
very,
really,
very,
really,
and she
when,
she,
when she
when she
was a
my
my Tia,
my
my Tia
Marta,
this,
she,
she,
she was,
she was
all,
and my
mom,
and I
had
two
and I
had been,
and I
did,
and she
was,
she was
still,
still,
yeah,
I'm,
the day of
today,
I don't know,
I'm,
I don't know,
but it
us will you say, is that I
know I'm going to be.
I mean, and at
the moment, I mean, I'm physically
like, I mean, I remember.
I mean, I don't know. I mean, I'm still.
And if she's, yeah, is something, that's
but she's, he does fear.
A she's a fear?
Because she does it.
Or, yeah, not is like, the typical
that I've talked about a little bit,
is that I know my abulito
me's helping, or that my mom
me's helping, and that she, she has
fellicier, but, look, me chel the
man here, no.
So, the intention, or, well,
no,
I don't see the intention
but she
does she
can
they're in the
night,
they're talking in the
night, they're to
they're talking to
the timbre,
go,
it's the time,
it's the
they're,
they're in the
mess,
she'll be
to do,
or well,
or she quester
and she
sonando.
And,
the intention is
incommod
for so.
The intention is
incommodar.
Yeah,
like a
kind of a
cause,
yeah.
And many
stories
so,
I mean,
what other
idea,
yeah?
Well, it's
Yeah, so,
they're sitting in
in your camera
I think that I
didn't think I'm
I know
I don't know
I mean I
didn't know I
but I guess
that was she
was in my
camera and the
but I
didn't have
any kind of
I'm doing
the piojito
to her
I had been
the same
but no
I mean
I don't know
I know
I don't know
because of
maybe I
can come
to come
me
the description
physical
coincide or
no
No, no, no, the second
occasion,
I just I said,
but remember the first
I didn't know the first
I didn't know
I did open the eyes.
Yeah.
So, no, no,
I don't know
I did.
And the second
occasion is totally
a general and
and it was
totally different
negative.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, with energy
more negative.
Do you?
You know,
any story
with that
you want to
do the
family
nocturn?
Yes.
Okay.
We're going to
do a
question.
As we're doing
to the
final of the
program,
Ariel will
tell your
story and I
go to
tell my
ultimate
story.
We'll get
people
that's
listening
the podcast
and not
has subscribed
and it's
the first
time that
you're
I'm a
a new
a change
just
you've
for this
moment
about a
hour and
a
more of a
episode
with
various
stories.
If
the
the
two
two
you
give us
a
give
me
your
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and
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I think it's a
I think it's a
I think it's a
two hours of
entertainment
for a like
and a subscription
what you know
if you don't
you're not
you subscribe
no you're
but
refrending us
the treatment
episode so
is that one
once said
this
Ariel
tell us
your
story
okay
okay
after
after the
I'm
I'm very
fun
to start
to start
to
start to
talk
photos
so
in the
night
at
dark
and
it
wasn't
that
well
that
my
friends
of the
secondary
and I was
that I
know, I mean,
I said,
and I was
so,
and I was
very assupt
and they're
not,
and they're
to go to my
house, and they're
to have
to be in my
house,
they were
to go,
and they're
they're just
in my
court.
No,
not,
not incerated
with a
but if
the moment
in the
moment in the
you intends
to open
the
door and
something
to
you're
that's
that
That's
that
they were
they were
they were
that no,
no,
no,
it's the
air,
and we're
in that
then we're
an air
lavado
that was
for all the
house,
so I'm,
it's like,
and it's
like,
okay.
Well,
we're like,
we're,
like,
like a
type of selfie,
we
took a photo,
and in the
window
was,
I had a
carterterter
and I
saw,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm,
there
something,
see nothing.
No,
it's
only
it's
like,
the
wayquito
where
something is a
little bit of
you know,
I'll
see in the photo.
That's if you're
in the Facebook
still still
and it's very
interesting.
It's a
go, pass me the
photo.
Pass me.
How
they're going?
It's that
I think
they're
they're
pretty
because,
I mean,
it's,
I think,
I'm,
I'm,
I'm going to
be the
there's
going to
rollando,
it was like
the
new thing,
but
after
that
they were
It was something, it was tremendous.
I still don't even remember.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You go to tell my ultimate story.
That has to be
with the movie that mentioned.
How did it?
You remember?
You know, that I told me
told me a story that I said.
Me was about it.
It's correct.
There's a chava
that is super
amant of the things vintage.
And since
much,
she used to go
to basares
and to look
like cositas
that not only
the appearance
vintage,
but that really
are
antivos
that have
had
been
property
for you
that's
that magic
to start
sharing
stories
to have
someone
someone
had a
someone
had a
story
for what
was important
this
object
for
this
so she
is
like
a
place
so
well
me
she
I
said she
I
think
in this
in this
in
this
very
romantic
because
I
like
to
write
for
me
when
me
when I
sent
to
the
a spejo that
I
think I
imagined the
other
people of
people who
were in
this
picture of the
book.
One day
I'm a
ropero
and I
think the
demonies
exist.
This roperer
was a
roperer who
is from the
day that
I did
I'm a
but of
a form
very
strange.
It was
like
if in
me
my
sentiments
my
my
heart or my
mind
me said
it's
it's too,
it's
too,
it's too,
like something
something
but at the
same time
in his moment
no he didn't
it was like
a little bit
a idea
that was a
not he'd
go to
come it
so it wasar
so it wasart
very
great
in the
antiquities
I
didn't
go to
not even
so
I was
doing
all
and
I was
I was
to think
in it
and it
was
really
really
but
but I
never
but I
did you
well
total
a little
a
little
a
this carpenterer who
makes
the
person's
excellentably
well.
There's
a man
a man who
my brother
that's a
little bit of
I'm going to
do this
I'm going to
my
little to
my world.
Where I
go to
the person
that I
say,
oh,
is the
the fund
so,
get it
so,
get it,
and it
doesn't,
get it,
how?
You know,
you're
you're doing
this,
no,
or it's
to give
or it
to give me
more,
no,
no,
no,
all,
so how
can't,
no,
no,
You do you want to
give to
give it?
It's a
very
extrano.
And for more
that I insisted
because it's
a rare,
me said,
no you
don't you
don't even
something,
nothing more,
I'm not more,
I'm going to
go to do you
go to do
and it's
caro.
But you
do it's
for you?
Because,
ideas
my ideas
my.
But if
is for
today,
you're
I'm
I'm
I'm sure,
I'm
a friend
a man
that has
a man
a
car car
and he
he's,
he's
he was,
very rar
from the moment
of the
company.
Because you
want to
get to get
that's a
bad
and I'm
so it
and I'm
too too
and he's
yeah
I'm
doing that you
get to do it
and I'm
criticated
for a
lot of
this not going to
have more
to have
me more
I'm
I'm
so I'm
I'm
to make
to give
some
I'm
he's getting
one,
you know
they're
he's
for my
car to
this
Roperito
It was of these roperos
They said
No medial
And 50 centimeters
Of the end
So the
The fund
Not so the
So I'm
So I'm going to
Funerala
To be able to
Mucas
So make the
Part of me
I said
It's a
I'm sorry
I'm sorry
Soe
There's
There's
So it's
Cucererer
Cours
When I
When I
Yeah
When I
The
Ports
Stavis
they were
abirtas.
The door
and they'd
have been able
and they're
there's a construction
and then
I'd do it
to do the vibrations
but it was
rare in the
madrogated
too.
Me I'd
go to the
house and
I'd
and I'm
going to
get a little
of a
tranquillity
I'll
with my
friender
and I'm
and I'm
and I'm
a little
a security
something
I'm
the
I'm
the
I'm
disarmed
in the
mess of my
court and
the doors
open.
I'm
going to
give in tranquillity
but also
much
curiosity
what's
what's
what's
maybe one of
the people
that was
the person who
wanted to
give to
give to
give to
a type of
message.
So,
so,
the
old,
what
what history
is
under
this
roper?
And
it's the
second
thing
that
me more
more
more
because the
first
was the
one
was what
I was I was going to write. When I'm
going to think
the stories of the tass of the ropero,
I'm going to write what in the life had
written, purses of terror. I don't
I'm scribo that. I'm scribed things
bonitas. And where me begin to
surging images of
pesadilla, monsters,
entities, strange.
What is this?
Me relajo. I'm
to do take techniques that I'm
think to concentrate me different,
to visualize things
different.
I'm
a roperer
that's a
mono
yeah,
it's a
beautiful and
and me
surge in
scenes of
people that
are bad
very bad
assassinos
people
matandos
people
autos
vivienes
quarters
of the
quarters
and things
horrible
I
don't
to describe
I'm
that
I'm
I'm
thinking
in that
I
go with
some
some people
I go to
some
I'm
I'm
the
door
to be
the
Well, yeah, X, no, no, no,
let's go to
the camera, in turn to the
screen, in turn to
the peinator, in
torno,
all preceoos.
We're going to,
in the ropero.
Accidentes,
murders,
assassinations,
fantasias,
things extrana,
large and altas
somras,
oscuras
that's in the
night, in
the middle of
casas,
new,
people with
cars of sustad,
things horrible
and spantos
images that
not me
just that no
me
I'm
with my
cellular
in the
camera
I
enter
a sensation
of
a
very
strange
because I
have
I'm
difficult
and
I'm
and
I'm
and
I
get
dormied
with
the
cellar
in the
madugate
I
have
a
sensation
I'm
to
act
to
do
the
cell
I'm
I'm
I
put
the
some
the
hand
that's
going
to the
roperer
and
they're
and they're
going to
and they
like they
I'm
I'm going to
I'm
I'm
saying the
day
I'm
I'm
with my
friend
and he
said
for favor
get
that's
me
in my
carpentry
never
will
be that
that
I don't
I'm
I'm
not
I'm
the
story
he
he not
he
he's not
he's
but
that's
but that
that
has
something
has
And me decisee of that, but not
I'll say how.
But from,
but from that day,
I know that exist in the demonies.
And I asked,
why demons?
Why, those mans are
of one person?
And with this story,
we'll desped us
to this podcast.
That's a good story.
Ariel?
Gustas
despid with
some of the audience?
I'm sorry,
well,
that you always
it's good,
that you hear,
that's not,
it's the same
to tell us to
tell us to someone
that's pre-disposed,
You're, this,
you're very
in this type of
things,
because always
me know what I'm
saying,
and she's
sure, I mean,
I'm also
much to hear
in the night
and the
typical of,
is that for so
to pass me
those things.
It's not,
it's not,
but I know
that's my
imagination.
So,
it's always
good to
be heard
for,
for an
person to
get to
yeah,
it's a
great family
nocturn
to the
audience of
this podcast.
If you
did you
The last two stories, you know,
what was the
Trapo.
We'll see in the
next episode.
And you know
you know,
you know,
that's all
these,
these things.
This was,
let me,
let's do what
no exist.
Bye,
bye.
What on?
Oh,
that?
Oh, good.
The last story.
