HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - El verdadero experimento MkUltra |ft. Tony Aceves | EP 137

Episode Date: November 16, 2023

¡Bienvenidos a un viaje por la oscura red de secretos que nadie se ha atrevido a contar! 🕵️‍♂️💀 En @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE junto con nuestro super invitado Tony @humanhardener .Tony es un hacker de la vida real, el conoce la deep web y tiene un profundo conocimiento de la verdadera oscuridad del ser humano. En este episodio escucharás realidades que durante mucho tiempo te han hecho creer que son teorías conspirativas.Te recomiendo encarecidamente que estés consciente de que lo que vas a escuchar es real, así que antes de iniciar a ver este capítulo toma precauciones por el bien de tu paz mental. Suscríbete, activa las notificaciones y prepárate Familia Nocturna🌒 para que @hablemosdeloquenoexisteSaludos desde la oscuridad atentamente El Narrador

This podcast, apart to make feel paranoid, because it will be I want to show, I'm trying to this experiment social, if it's possible program to a person to get to commit a

car. He metia vagones of the metro, and no diso massively. Welcome. Let me talk about what no exists. Tony,

I want to tell something that was a little after that you took here. Okay? Vino a chica and

without that she knew us was talking that she was a victim as well

of all the questions that we we're going to do you're going to let's

this anecdote. Today we're going to some some theories conspiratives that not

are theories that were conspirations that really were they're

actually they're in some moment not they're not

they're not they're not they're we we're talking

about about the hacking human of this engineering social.

It's a thing that me me passion a question to tell us some people who to talk about the time of

the time that I'm made a question that that's the thing that I was looking on the

personal for situations that I have been so so is that you want to be

some years and that I'm made this is the episode but one once said

this now so now so for the fun no turner with theories

conspiratives that were in the there's one that for me was very impactant when

when I did a point that was a real there was in 2007 that was in

a year of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of Bruce Wayne is being about the

ethics of the system of localization in a place in a way of all the people of

and he says, not you do you know, you're not going to you're not a

reason, that's that's that that's that's that's interesting,

that's a local, form of plan to something that's a day of a

day of we're doing that we're that we're that we're that's that

are intervened We have a computer a tablet or a computer or a computer or a

computer or a one of the privacy not a privacy yeah no the right in our records of us

in the other visuals of auditivos yeah there a sequence in the big data I think

that's where you've been in where has been how time has been there you're there's

there's there all your customs of your uses of the things that you can

you can talk about about your profile so then in the

last a few Snowden he was he wanted and they were not and they were a

attack against the security of the United and well all these questions that the day of

our is our great brother the he's my name of this

author George George Orwell in the novel of 1984 well well

well well well so you can say that so

you can be that well that's a very reality. There is a

caricature that is my theory of conspiracy that's my theory conspirative. This is, it's, it's a form that I'm going to be able to that I'm going to be able to this caricature. There's a caricature, one of the last in Japan, an anime, that's called

One Piece. Okay. So, if you're you're not, the series? Yes, it's a little bit in Netflix? Okay. The anime, I think is it's is of the 90-tentos or 80-tenths. Yes. Well, I'm a grand fan

of the anime, but there's something of this anime that has been my connection with him. To the people

that not like the caricature, I'll go to be to be a case. No, it

has a thing to be with caricatural. They're in this story, in this

world that this world fantasyos, that the humanity in their registros historic

has a single in the no there no there's no no one of

this single. No no nothing that's that's any

that's any that's the single, is persecuted, is

is eliminated, and it's no my and my

theory of conspiracy is that is something real

that that that the moment, in the time in the

that's we started the education in a form that

with there's there's many parts that are in many things

and are re-lectures of the things that are with an

intention to where they can be conspinoico but

in serious if if you see the things that

are things that are simply to do the population

in a form to the world the a certain manner specific

with a intention. And that the parts that not they're like, is a real 100% where's in

a story of the world, in how function the world, who's and how it's practically a deities the person that

is the person who is front of this country. So it's a reality that when the information,

you can generate the history of your entorn and a part of there part it's part like a reality.

So I think that One Piece is a critic to this that is occurring with the re-lectura of the true history that exists in the human. So, son a loco? In one of the plaitics that I was, probably the

most known, is, this is security. Every year, it's a lot of practice, and there are, well, many characters of all. I took to see a ex-integrate, probably had been a been director

of the NSA and he he's he had retired and he wanted he had

many many stories to tell obviously and he he started and it was part

still in that moment of the government of the government

there are a process that are the people who are in the

people and some types of military also that do

a revision of they're going to to write to write in the when they're this and they're they're saying, hey,

no, you can't write these stories, no? No, you can't write these stories in this format

of the book, so he said that they gave the best the best he

he has, if you want to write, if you want to tell a word,

he's fiction. Then he started to this stories that he had done. So,

is the the best way one of the ways of how to tell a story without a without a

amnace direct to some people that are, that's affected for that, or alluded

for those stories that you're talking. Other of the aspects that you are saying

about how that he's that control the information, well can control the

history. Yes. And, and to go going to get into some things to do you

know, it's something I saw in a little bit in a talk, and they said, how aspects

of engineering social, in this case, for questions of history of the United, have been

fluided because the people said, until that they're to get to the university,

majority, they're not that the person that's a man Martin Luther King oh, well, it's said

nothing for it's said that for members of the FBI, that's so is totally a not a theory of inspiration,

not is a classification, but well, if it was a person of interest, that's a government of the United,

if they're they're doing all the photos that there in the books of text, of history,

in the schools, all were photos in black and all, even if they're a

buskedom the majority of the photos are in black and black and being that in those epochs

there was there was there's the fact to use photos in black and would

say or would be a that was a much time. That's that was that

not was of our new our modern no, no yeah we're

we're we're just we're they're they're they're privileges

all those the people minorities, so what they did they're in a way deliberated and

controlled is put all that history in photos of black and black and to know that that's a much time

was what happened. Sure, you put sepia more and they put to colors and you do the day

of today, and so it's a register mental where you do a chronology, no,

and so it's a story remote. That's, that no, that's no, that

that's, that's of that's of, seeing that there aspects of that history in this moment,

so, but are questions to look, after how, something, something that's something, okay,

so we're to show it to make it to make a message be, so that's that the past was a

bad bad. And, yeah, obviously, but, well, that's a pasto is a

when, of when it was the 60s. It's very impactant. Fifate, I have

to talk to be something that is going to do the day of the primaria. I have access

for known that are masters. And then they're about the texts that

are you know they're a whole reform, those can be they've got in problems with the

C, because not passed some those didn't the time of the

time to to try to do the information was erratica not was correct but we're

we're a tendency political obvious but was so marked

that that they'd all the vocabulary and the way of the form of

the language for that these new generations in their cements

it was they were a base and then they they were about

governments corrupt about a so a dialogue that during

three hours all you you do you do

say it's it's the so if that for

long a You have a colmena? You have a group of people that have that they identify, that does feel to part of a gremeo, that does have to have very obvious what is good and what is

a bad. And then, but that all of us is a programation that's done from your when you were conscious in lectures of text that you had in the school.

And at the day of today, adult, where I'm going to use, you're and that's a system that's a

enclage. And the and the enclage is a system that is a system that is a in the PNL and well,

we're in the Deportes. In the Placke, also they're in the class. They're the,

as the, as the, as the, Michael Jordan had, I was, he's, he's,

I think, it's a thing, it's a and I'm, and I'm, and I applauded three

times. Clavron James, he hadrava that Tisa and he he'd to the air,

at the air, all the when when they're, it's go time. No

important what this moment is to play. That is the equivalent to what many do you

in Mexico of these types of of rituals and that's like they're like superstitions but

the cabal that is the cabala well but many people I've heard

I've heard that that's that's and he starts and he needs with

with a certain foot at the moment to terminate the time to

start the time so that you makes that you enter in a rhythm that your

brain that your record a thing you have a part superstitious but it has a part

practice and effective and when not you do you do they not they act

that way yeah yeah it is it's it's it's psychologically

those the talismanes or the amulettes or the amulettes of the

so because we that proportiona that the other not

don't they're, under the way, I'm going to prepare, I'm going to present a

proposal or going to do a presentation of a very important. Obviously, I'm prepared with time,

I do my presentation, and in that day I'm my omelette of the suhirt, my corbata

of the course. So that's an of confidence that's all of to descendir.

Me prepared. And apart, I'm my power suit, my, my my,

my, my amuleta the Well, that's a plus that when when you when you have

that component additional, uh, maybe it's a problem that the other than the thing, obviously,

obviously, we have to work and do it to do the other but it does that that's additional,

no? Is that all well, functioned, no, under the principle that they're

under under that under that principle properly spiritual, but all in the part

emotional, in the question of memory, in your projection, in your vision

of future, It affects to just simply of confidence I'm I'm going to I'm going to

I'm yeah, I'm sure, I'm 100% of the question of the enclaw to

a new a movie of Denzel Washington of the yeah I think of the

2000s that he was he's the MK Ultra and that he was

he was a candidate but he was he went to he

was going to do something was something to do it was

to record. I think in some moment we were the candidate the candidate

Manchurian or candidate of Manchurian Candidate Yeah That's a I mean that I mean it's

a movie effectively is a book I think that's of 50 or there's a book.

Ah yeah you're saying a book okay yeah and that yeah and that

the story of how a person or a soldier in this case is is

captured during the war of the war of Korea a soldier Australian is captured until the Korea and is he's

he's taken to Manchuria that is a region of China and there is not only is captured but

receive a series of questions for that to to bebraed with the finality of obtaining information

they're their they're their voluntary torture by mediation of

a derivation of a so there then they do they do they after

after that I'm there there's there there is that that

in the questions of the of the people that is very I'm

I'm I I'm I do that I do you remediable

your Cerebro is Ligando that's that's that's that's That's a With the with the With the When the time

So they're So they're To make a type of manipulation To form a What would A person

That would act to be For the interests of who has been Programmed Basically in That's the

book The movie is very similar Here Captura this person is

submitted to this proceedings and and then supposedly mediant a order specific

had the finality to do certain actions. In this case, he,

he's, he's president, not, of the United in the movie,

I think, let's see, I remember, if he he's going to be to take a candidate or

or, more than a soldier, he's a, no, I don't, I, no

I don't record, I, or if is, or if is, or if, if,

if, if, is, if, is, is, candidates, of

actually, for that's the candidate the machin I think, I mean, so,

so it's so it is a solution. So, so it will then

what they want to what they get, or what is, is that titer, that you

can't manipulate, no, or that can do do you do a programation.

This has been, as we know, to know, the famous,

or the infamem MK Ultra, that is, not only only only is a

project, but was a series of different projects that officially were

three or four years of their existence officially for the government of the United is that was that was a series of projects

that had also also and in them in them those the objectives were majorment

had two no, the control mental that was that was indispensable for them

was what they were what they wanted to make techniques of interrogation for the attention of

information or intelligence that's that's and they're and they're and they're in what

what's he's been documented because much information is a drug hypnosis that more

privation sensorial yeah either of the sleep food um

isolation also in the time in not in a room or in a

stimul elctric and a thing that they called incomododid

physical for not to call him a tortura, but he called an incommodity physical, and,

and, and, he, they're doing these aspects. They're doing,

they were, um, well, they're when they did it public this book,

if, if, if, they've, they've, they've, they've, got,

to, they're, not, and they're not, and they, and they, and they

no, because, because, supposedly, because, M.K. U. U.

U. It was three years only, but, but it has records that he was present to the 70-album, 73-14. You're talking about 20 years, like 20, 20, 23 years active, this, of manner clandestina, but, well, so,

and why, I think, because I think, that supposedly not they were, because this they can verify, there, there, there's a person that I'm a fan of he's an

illusionist a bitan so he's D-R-N D-R-N Brown like the color coffee

in in English is a master illusionist in in in

in I probably probably be the most known he and

he had had For example, there was one very known where he supposedly he contract a three a three persons

of marketing and then he he those he goes to a place and he says

I want to me do some that some ideas for this marketing no, let's

tell and it's filmed as as the day from the day because they

pass them they're going to they're in a coach for them they're in a hotel where they're and they

they're going to they're and then then the finality is that he was that exactly the idea

that they they're with some but the same colors and the same I've been

seen and they were very very similar in the what they've been doing. And this he was a

ideas. Like, for example, the coach in the which was for them, was a color blue. And it was a color very dominant in all. So, they'd as they were, as well, and so were, uh, some words also, they were, uh, without, ponen much attention.

And certain questions that he was never really emphatizing. So he's, he'll work plant these, these, these stimulus, and generate an idea in them, in them, but it's the same idea. And that they think that the idea is personal? no, they're

they're that's he's he's based on what he said he and that

was a type of experiments or, we're of, of questions that he

was but then he was going on fame and a little of fortune

was doing experiments about quite, even more oscourous using

aspects of engineering social and totally of human hacking

were programs special But not series, I was, it was a normal,

just he was not much, he's not not so, he's not an actor, definitely. He'll use a special

that's called the heist, that was something like the attack or the robo, in the which,

mediante, then techniques of influence, manipulation, hypnosis, and all a job he does,

he he, he he'll call a experiment social, that through this experiment social, convened to

participants that he selection to that they'd commit an rob a manorbed

to a carmion of these of values so the question was that the question was

that the people were being influenced to commit this rob and there a series

of there's very interesting because there there one of

the one of those one of the passos and those have listed

is preselection of participants he was he was selection participants a time

of a series of a series of psychologics disfrasated as ariety and auto-deserroy he was he was

in a period in a moment and in forums of internet for people that were motivated or that

was interested in assistive to and then he was selected and much thanks

and he and he and he was going and he said this is he and he

did this but the fashada was a grand tarrerer and of the autoreshroobey.

And what was he said he was a susceptible, pardon, to the suggestion, but without tendences

to be a criminal natural, or to tend to the violence or to commit crimes or to commit crimes, a person common

and with certain values, like a person good, and to me, and so, well, motivated.

Yeah, and I'm motivated. And desiosed to aperture to the master enormous. And that if

we're, are questions that many of the gurus utilizes now. That's, that's very important to

I don't know. For those who are listening, I want to mention it because this part,

perhaps not they're not going to there's a planification of what they are looking. And so

they're doing a semillero to be where germine this semilla? So,

who have the qualities that I do you do things and they're that's not a person

human normal because you're talking here people people who is very

manipulator that is doing all their time and his effort and not is a person

normal and a current that simply in a dialogue you do you do you

do you do you do you do you no you're no they're

they're not in all and do do all a manipulation

invisible of the which you you do you do you do you do you

do you to do you to do you you're going to you're where you get this questionionation really how

you're really in the decisiones and if you not you're not you're you're you're doing

when really it's all a process that has been having to you to the final you

to think you're the process was planned for that that you terminated you're

coming to you're super interesting And then, yeah that I've

picked these participants now he'd he'd give him and

him about in this were submitted to techniques netamently of their

and persuasion they were a time and he said that

Brown started to implant the idea that that could

they could all those participants that were taking

control of his viz, Dandoled an sense of an

empowerment extreme and a trebiment. Also, and these questions and these questions are even in the

cults. You have you have the power. You have the is that's very interesting because it's

that they they're going the idea of the time of the decisiones personales when

no, you know, you know, you're because all we're we're doing the

same the decision, where there's the diversity. This is this cult of this

experiment. But it's exactly the moment. And in cult what occurs is that here is that he needs a cohesion

of the group very great and eliminate the people who not are in the so this

type of cults always they're with practices coercitivas where the

that has a person that is nefar is a repudiated for the rest and there are

methodologies to allow it to start to isolate to the

the fact, the day of today I recommend and it's a method byte. The method

byte that about how the cults make the is a formate is a catalog that's made and there's

different and there are groups of motivation that they use and there and there are families

that they use because it's a method that properly not it not so that's

very natural and it is very very dramatic with the narcissism to the people

that are the people who are they're have the method that's integrated in

their venas and they do it without that they're going to that's

not a methodology. Revisen because one of the forms to learn the reality

is having information. And when you can't get a point out of so you

this podcast apart of a part of you're going to be a so that you can't

get the information in the which you can put a you can't there simply

not you know the other of the aspects and that's very important and it's

the increment gradual of the what is this is simple as a

name it's an it's an amount in tasks that are from things that

they were that they're not had more transcendence to those that they're that

they're to a point we we're ethically or of the morally questionable.

You go and working with your lines. And so those limitations those limitants those are to rompient

but of a way that's subtle that you don't you know you and I don't see if it is over there

but probably the person that's the thing is the same and then then it's a beginning a

relationship some mission and the person that does the order and the person

that has been a lineated this with emotions make that's it's compagina

with the emotion of the good and then that's that's that's

the critical after what's the typical of here, there's there's a person there's

a part if you if you you're like you're like what you're and you're

there's there you now you're now you're about you now you're about this and it's

to do this and it's I'm where a where a where a particular

a compromise and it's a justificing other other compromises major.

Well, you're you're doing now that I'm asking. But you do you do you

so I'm to get to so you make a kind of you want to be okay, tell you

don't, no, no, it's not now, and now. Yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, that when you

get to the point, no, I see, a point, you do you do you

do that's so you know, you know, I'm so you know,

I'm so then it the day of the rob, he called the

were, the participants were exposed to stimulants previously

condition the music and symbols mentioned before because they

were they're using symbols for those the famous

analogics these these enclations well those end they

comportments. But then the day of robes, those stimulus, and that was music and certain symbols, and, without know, these symbols activate the, the sequence of

the comportment that Brown had yet implanted in them. Another thing that was, that was it was for separate. So, when in the sequence, the actions were going to be found them. So, so I'm in the

minute, for saying, if I when I applauded condition for that's paring the person and if I go or I go

or I go something is to take something and action and then do other action and

it's automatic for the Cerever and then then the act he's using

with pistols of utileria and maskaras and questions the participants the participants

term committing committing to a guard of security of

the of values and properly to the carmionetta of the and the

actual the fact is totally based 100% in the influence and in the

suggestion. In this case no there was no it was through these

elements of the enclage of symbols in those which is the

word. Why mention this person and where we want to

get with the candidate the Manchurian Candid this

person of Rembrandt, then he's one that for me has been the special that's that's the name

the assessino and it's basically is how can employing techniques of mentalism and of

engineering social that are very ligated to influence in the person but to get to

a extreme so, in this in this episode as a I wanted to this experiment social if it's possible

program a person to a certain point to get to commit a assicentat that's that's a obviously is an

assassinat simulated and here it was maybe one like he said where more resources

I've got to use not so he's no analysis he used techniques advanced of manipulation anklage, symbols, because

inclusive, and we're talking a little before, it's like, it's like, a sequence of commands in computer. Because not only only was a

single signal, but it was a series of sequences, uh, in a, that, uh,

that, uh, that, he, that was, without, without, without,

um, so, if, if, if, is, this, is,

see, I'm trying. It's, this comportment for that he took a

arm and disparate to the object here. Here also the important, and are the

point, the recipe of the recipe, no, in house, but

for that the person of the participant because here only

only he's one, he's he one but at one

just for the time that he involved. So, this

this is the step crucial. Necess We wanted to get a person that is a highly susceptible to the hypnosis.

That was basic for him. It was a time. He thought he was to assist to an tahrer of auto- and of motivation.

There he was they're in a long of various sessions. The Dern Brown exposed to the participant that's called Chris to

a series of techniques of their gestion of hypnosis. where a through

the condition which it was it was it was reaction to some the

condition the condition for the person that is a technique basic of psychology

that in a first he discovered or well the named

Pablo a a russ in the in the he did

know they were they they were they had to get to get

to some a one a a campanita, we'd let's

the lot of food, and then the moment in the time in the they were all all in the time he's

he said, well, it's obvious because the aroma of the food is the that's the

salivation. But then he did know that the simple of the thing that the same

that would be the salivation in the book of the people. Then says, okay, the salivation

the provoked the thing, but because now it the provok it the the

where connect a stimulus with a response and then retires the stimulus that in this case is the food and you put another thing that has to be. In this example that we're doing, it was like accommodating stimulus for that detonar them in a action that in-sign no should have the sense, but is that's he left for a whole

an ingenery human, deters, to be able to get to that person reactioned that way. Yes. of actually one of the questions that he

put his emphasis is in to teach to this case a criss to enter

to an state to a state and respond to a word or a stimulus in

particular because it was a series of for example he he and there you can

be, you can be in the video you can put in the immunosis first is going is in a

camp of a tibnosis and these these words that are doing is going to make

a time until that he gets a point in that they sound chaski

and the dead of the he'll he does the and he does it

and when they say it's not always but when when it is always

constant always always does the same it's super interesting

is the same effect of what we about we've a lot of the rest of the time

in the moment in the case in the time it's because detonate some structures mental

that you not the person is not that are that are and are going to

make a different different that so and what it

was a interesting at final was that that he used a

sort that was a kind of because they could

could have that sequence specific that involved the vision to be

that was a big that was a person was the that was the woman that was

a listen a phrase uh auditive to hear a phrase in specific

here no say for example oh how good was the day or

even a or an specific after the the sentire that's they're

they're in the on the on the on the they're all all

all all and a yeah a yeah a

question yeah final and it's literal in that that is that

he's he he he and he disparate a

actually a actor a comedian a comedian Stephen

Frey and obviously I obviously was to this

experiment and then after he he he All the

people was running and he he's coming normal and he's

he didn't know what he's not he's the question the question of the

question of the candidate Manchurian or of the control mental and also to

to leave a little what he said that if a person really not he

really really do you do you do you know this you can eventually,

you can be able to implantar these actions. Yes, I think that that phrase when the person,

if a person no, if a person, no, it's, I think, is, I think, more well,

a salvoconduct, that also has been to be with the malice of the person that you

have seens in front, because many times are the people who manage And in the Alcance of the

tool, that's not an impediment. Only it has to work to much ways and

get to the person, and you're doing the thing, the herreement, and you get a point

in the manipulation is can do that. But you're talking, like, like, you know,

has been with a finality very specific because what you're going to be doing is to be

working the person, as if it not were a human, it's like if were a

And you're going to modify things, like if were a computer and you're like you're like that's like you're

exactly like a computer but you have to humanize it's humanizing it's to transform it in a tool for

you. Because you're going to start experimenting with your cerebr with their ideas and what's

I'm a humanizing in the in the movies that have been in the things that

actually that was one of the M.K. Ultra. What they were at principle

not the It was to for the memory to then implementer but they they're literally

that the human that the human would be that personality and what he involucra for the other.

For the tabula a rasa or so eliminate the mind for complete to to start to start to

write a personality and something I'm I'm I'm just me make and I'm

this is mixed totally fantasy but what is what the movie the identity of Bourne but where

where they it's so they're in those are you are sure they're they're not for example they're what they're with the

dishumanizing at the initial is we're to borrow your identity literal not you're not going to know what you

you're going to start to make you know we're not so after but then then you're a series

of questions where they they're they're the mind and it's to be programmed

for that's for that it's a machine perfect That was Jason Moore. Yeah.

The spy perfect. But it's a time. It's clearly how they're in tonnation, electrochugs, substances,

because what they want to want to do it. Borrard for that they need to be what they're they're the

person and apart he was a decision to do that. They'd like the recipient and just wanted

that just ideas, not the project Threston, or Wow. What interesting, what interesting.

This, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this is

the mental and how is the human, is a thing that me, I mean, I mean, I'm, I'm, I mean,

I was, a final, the character, I was a, a man, me took, some experiments, my father,

and my person, a person, a particular, and when we were very little, we did,

we did a game, Tony, that that's that's a way of a way a little bit a little bit

a year. One day we're in a new year and then he says, we're going to go to

the secretes. We have to be looking to imagineate that we're in this place and you're

there's sitting at the table and there's right and they're all on the

front of the part. Then he's well, but not they're going to go and

they're and me can't for all the car very well,

counten from 10 and getting to 10, they're in they're in they're

going to get to be and they're and he and he's never moved. When he

went to when all we're we're we're we're and we're going to

and we're and we all the house. And so it is that's it's it's

it's a where you we're we're going to and we we're going to and we every

one of the house and you, then where so I'm where so I'm to the

kitchen and I'm sat, well, more well, more been, pegged to the wall, in the point in where I was to tell, and he

is front of me, and no, I know I percibo, until he swel to a carcachada and I'm going, and I said, where did you? And I said,

then I'm moving. And that, for me, I was a very, but was like, what it was, because nobody, we knew, because

when I was here, and I started to do see, that our brain, and what we we're super alterable,

depending So, so when I I started to hear and talk to talk to you, it's a type of situations. My papa

had been a great show very strange. They were a bromist in pedernido. If the repent

I saw that a person had a man, and I was a in the manos and was someone

known of a confiance, he was he'd the other person not not was a person not

and of a repent, without a minute, he said to do it, and he got to do it,

he got to another box, he was in the box, and I'm going to get in the and he's not. And I'm going to get a patica

until the other person said, where I'm going to where I'm where I'm this, and he, and I

know, and I was, wow, so no, no, no, he's percibi- to three minutes after this

situation, because he's, he's, he's, he was, alter and the other person not a matter. So,

the being human is very limited in those perceptions and in his actions. Only not is conscious

of that and at not being not being a sense like a kind of of omnipotency

and omnisapience and to be very conscientious that in the reality for the observators is

like, no, no, we don't we are so much at the day of

but are super interesting these theories conspidation, that you know

are, are more realities? They're in these these documentaries. These are on those

on YouTube? They're in YouTube? Derren Brown. It's many the more recent was in the United. It's a special.

Yeah. It's a special. Yeah, one more elaborated than others, but these are entirely

manipulation. There's another where even I think they're they call the call it or

or something, I think it was the last of this style, that's a building, that's a building, they're going to have an event very important, and the

affected, for the subject that are, they're going to use, are people who are there, be there,

mecers, that are, who are, and all who are, all the, people, that's,

so, for that he uses figures of power, in this case, was not only the

chief of them, but the the company to put them in situations

very extreme to see to do how can do they can do things and it

starts where is the duke and I think is the chief of them and

there is a person and there is and he he said he he got to have to

have a paro cardiac is this person in the soil

and the and the man It was a woman that they want to do. Abl to the emergency, no, no. It's that we're not, no, no, it's that's getting to the people. It's very important.

This is the event of our lives. For favor, we ask you that, that's not me see nothing. We're going to move it. Help to the chief to move to this place. And when it's terminated the event, we'll have to 9-11, no?

Or the 9-9-9-9, I think that's there in, in in, in, in, in Latterra. So, that is the first point. It's a shock, the mancha entry in shock automatically see the figure of his proporke that he's giving the order and the chief of her

he's helping to do that action. So, they're in that case, still to be a person and then they're going to a a a quarter, a, a quarter, that not is there that is the one.

Then, standing into, he says, oh, you know, you know, it's a bit. He says, no, well, yeah, yeah, is to be able. So, then, as, as, as, as, as he will, in a bowl, and it in a little bagel. And so, he's going to start a certain point

of, to get it in a situation that are in the, in the, in the the, in the, in the, in the the kitchen of this edificio and so he he'll he he

he obviously there think he put like the four questions or four people who

submitted to this only one of them not does the other them did they're involved in this

obviously are techniques of human hacking of engineering of extreme all this ethical and

all these aspects he he says that puts to put a in the human.

And, it's very interesting. What I like is this sequence in the steps that he

uses. Why? Because, not see you, you know, and making,

yeah, Ultra, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, he's, a book, so, chaos,

and a more, the relation of Charles Manson with the with the Cia.

What, but the book is called chaos. Cause, two points, the

relation occulted or or something with the CIA. This is an investigator. For 20 years, it's an

investigator and reporter. For 20 years, he was investigating this case. It was the Charles Manson.

He gave like, well, he was going to do a certain time of this event, investigate it or

he was like, well, for what? For what? For what? There's, there's, for what?

It was like, that they've had that case, well, like,

for, he'd do you do you do do it, uh, result

that's that in the first, in the first days, that he he's

to investigate with the records and all the what I know is available of information

of how was learned, the, the records public of his audiences,

all this he, he started questions rare. Something other other

other other other other and he very rare between the questions

that he discovered of immediate is that Charles Manson was not the first first time

that committed a crime no much less the assassination of Shannon

Taint among other he he had been more for rob

and for vandalism more more also also also also

but and it was all the coast oest of

the United San Francisco and Francisco and and all that. And he was

he was a a reason of a year, he he he he he was

a specific every that he he no durable and he had a number of

telephone for to give that he was he was he was talking

to someone he's saying someone I'm just a question

in the experiment of the Darren Brown in the what was, in the heist, he's, he he's called as a leader

of the group? No. Never he was never he called as a leader. No. So, so, it's so another level

cabron. Yeah. He's always he's always maintain the margin. So, okay. So he's

he's is he's going to all, but the question is that they don't know what they're saying,

oh, so they're for example, they were Caminanded for the Cray. Manda this trigger

and they're and they're they're they're Oh, okay they're programmed

mentally for doing that that's one of that's one of the times okay

they're unconscious like in a like in a like in a trance like like

they're some those assaultants latent but at least yeah

you don't me me me I'm going to venter. Yeah, it's so

good. I'm very much. Because he started with with detection of the lot of the detection of

the truth of the detection of Paul Ekman or? The Paul Ekman I have to micro-experions but I do one of

communication no verbal. A barco, of actually, for there mention them I think, yeah,

more a bit more than so, yes, yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm probably people, but I'm going to do to do to the public in general. Chingon,

chingon. This, and he, and he, he, he, but he, but he was a other level, no? Inclusive, I see experiments very de mago, of, of, he, he'sconde some in one, in one of these of caros,

and, and, and, and, and, just me, a man, and, and I'm, and, I'll, I'll just, that in what cajuela are, yeah, that's the type of questions. Yeah. ...as, to other level, no? And, he, he was evolutioning,

and then, and then, he, Entro, a lot of show of in, and then he was doing these works of where he compagina

it's tremendous. It's tremendous. For example, of hypnosis, hypnotized, he metia bagons of the metro in

in, in, in, in the and it and then, massively. So,

so, so, by, by the publicing or something, and, oh,

those dormia? Yes, those, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, but, no, no, didn't the part of instructions.

No. but those do I'm all yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotrava the rhythm

and the sound of the sure that's it's good it's good it's a it's a yeah,

but all the this is, the, he's, he's, he has said, that has a component

of, for example, for example, to get the the, those, to find the lotteria

and also he's what he's what is what he did in other questions but also

it's there's many aspects but these are those That's what my name.

Ah, well, in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in, we're in,

we're, uh, Charles Manson had a relationship strange, all ver that when,

when, I'm, that, he was a, a, a, delinquent. A,

yeah, that was a, yeah, was a, so, yeah, it was, yeah,

it was, that was, it was, it was, I was, like, oh, you're,

you're, you, you're, you're, you, this, you're going to you're going to

a lot of that's the way of the United I'm not sure you know, I'm not sure if the third

reincidance the law the law of the three strikes. Yes, yeah, that it was

you're, you're doing a year, but at the third it was a lot of the condoenna

no, for reincidcies so, no, I know, one year, and then it was a

six years. Yes, a situation so, no, something like, and, and,

and, and, but, never passed that and it was well

and then then he did know that the person to the person to the phone

in the number telephonic was a person related to the CIA the

the CIA to start and then and yet that he obtained that after

after after investigating he did a question that Charles

Manson was forming part of a series of experiments

to where the responsible of that was one of the of the scientists of M.K. Ultra. Here comes the part where all of that all of this can be a coincidence. But the form, if you saw, for that was important to know the paths of how

Derren Brown, a through this experiment that comprobable one of the theories of MK Ultra and the manipulation mental. It's said that Charles Manson utilizes those same passes in his cult of his group to manipulate the people. Or so, the conditionarles,

the start with them doing always, because it was a message of love and peace and of cordiality until the final when they say, well, then, then, then we're to kill them.

Because even he not he's involved, he's he's the, the,

the, the, the, the, he's the manned, intellectual. Intellectual.

But he no, he's he didn't, he didn't, no, so.

And so, and they're, he said, he, he, he's, for the

cults, in the people, that, that, that, they're, they're,

he's, he's, they're, they're, to, to go to the people

adequate to start the condition to through a

through the of the lecture in the and the and the and the

and the and the thing we've said the relation this to do

I do you do it and then he was he was

he was the he was the two figures what he generated

a submission and one an opportunity a a master,

to the person that's like a thing so is. He's said that it's,

it's they're they're implantation of ideas like. Because you understand why

you know I've finished because because I have seen specifically because I

have heard because I have seen that substance yeah so, well,

it's supposedly does that that clarity or that that perture spiritual, no?

Inclusive, they're that's the the glandula pineal, that's the

third o'clock and questions is a very probably there's the moment perfect to insert

ideas new in the terrain fertile. Exactly. I think I do it more more than

that's in that way, you know, so in the more you know, you know, it's a

we want to see, we know, that is when you're in the best time in the more

moment to implantar ideas. Yeah. Yes, Yes, yes, as a mode programation. Uh-huh.

Okay. Yes, yeah, I'm sure. Probably maybe be for that. Uh, and other of the

question is the why, because Charles, Charles Manson and his common, and because they're involved

in the M.K. Uh, for what we have been done, the ramifications of the actions that

does the CIA in the United, uh, that was maintaining the American

Way of Living, no, the man. So, then those hippies and the consumption of substances

was it was it was affecting a lot so that was the response

that was a hippie and program to make these actions and now

say look for that we're we're not not some they're

not they're what can look you get to see

that that was that was the thing the instrument for

for the movement of the of the actually, the peace and love. That was

one of the conclusions to the question of the question to the satanized. And they're

in the new image in the normal of the vestigur to say, to say, to that's

and probably was one of the of the of the villains most of the

of the American that he in the in the culture popular until

his death. Yeah, he was a more so she was a little. Yeah, and if

died so I've moved over so what interesting, what interesting. And, yes, I'm

all the sense because I have seen some interviews of Charles Manson

and see a person supermom manipulatory but I think that's

a thing that I like so I've been with

many people in the person and you distinguish perfectly the naturales,

I know, those that, for personality, for family

for entom they're not even are not even these are not so they're people are in

a form very inconsient and because they're like their consents in, they have some

their gainance in their form, all the time they're doing manipulations of

their but are very inconsient of them so then notice certain grads of

malice that not not are many levels of not pull in the

tools they're using are evident the manipulations need

certain profiles for that are they are not they're not they're in an environment specific.

But not those others, that are they are people who are very dispirates, that are conscientious of

the kit of that they're doing all the time is to measure, and they're being simply for where

enter. And then they're using to generate some kind of of a kind of kind of

but then then they're not, they the gerarchization with the person a very amable and empathic

that's put aggressive, aggressive, arrogant, and not a where you make certain microgests

and you these people like if have been a practice but a level tremendous

with experts and no they're many of those of those who I took to

know not they're not they're a formation or you are a sociopath because

for their total careency empathy what they are they're they're

they're they're they're they're so then then is very difficult

with them they're very good they're very because they're not because it's not signific a they're not for them. So, I'm a question in the person's, it's not a question. It's not, it's a

thing that's false, that the people normally generate a rechazz. But there's because they're in a shock

emotional in which a lot of the people are conscious, a little. In the sociopaths that I

tried, no there was a person. Totally really and totally encabronate and totally really

and totally really and it. And it was because they're because they're doing

those they're so they they're so it's tremendous but I think in

my credency is that at to study to them and they're doing to

learn to the people like they're like they're like they're like they're

doing how this is getting to get to the formation of the formation of this

was a question not for this questioner and it's a look to look at

yeah and I discovered some things and it I did

of first man. No. How? How? Count me? Saludos to my

brother. You mean? You're not? Salus. So, so, so

yeah. So, basically she was in a cult. And I was a

moment, when I did count, I still didn't know, or not

had the knowledge as the other, but I was I just

I was just I And what my attention was a manual

of the FBI that they did they for this for the how to what I'm

one of the questions that made a all of the other could say okay is a person

enchantada with a figure a the leader of cult yeah of the

of messias messianico and so and so and it was a parted I don't

know I'm so you know he's he's yeah he's

so I'm But one of the questions that is that I said, this is, that says that in the changes of the food, uh,

suppressen the protein of origin animal. And I go, why? For, as it's the FBI and these are like the 70.

So, it's changed the question, but in this case, it's done. Supposedament words,

more, words, not, you're not in the same manner cognitively when you receive a

animal than when you get a protein vegetable. So in Spanish, you're a tonas?

A little. No, I don't do you, I do, I do. No, no,

no, no, this, this, if there's a point of a contrary,

it would interesting because we we're seeing here tactics of manipulation, no

stilos of life. Exactly. This do they do this. And when

I went to the reunion, because obviously I went to various reunions of this, but from the reunion, I said, this is a cult. But when I went, it was a reunion of Navidad, it was her end of year, his fiesta of the end of year and all this. And I said, well, and what is

this? He said, yeah, oh, well, is this? He said, oh, no, it's that here, all are they're, and she had, she had had, had gotten, yeah. Ah, I mean,

I was a Yeah, it was a part of, yeah, yeah, yeah, his identity was,

like, like all the other people, the other of the actually, I think in a little

that's the famousism the, the cult of the KitTri- Kitranier. Yeah, of the

interesting this you that you manage you, no I want to do that santo

and I want to say, no, I mean, I mean, I mean, But there was a group that

I've been a when I wanted to be a sastardote. I mean me interested, I was very interested in, like in getting this process. But no idea of how it was I began to investigate,

to ask you, and I went to different groups that, you know, to give them to this process. Each one of the

groups, objectives, different, optics different, lectures of the different, lectures of the spirituality

totally different. There was one in special, no, two in special that when I said, this opesta

occulted. Very, cabron. The other two no, for nothing. I'm, I'm,

this is, they're not, well, some doctors, and some psychologists, that's there's

not to be with the other. But two especially is a secta. It's a secta. It's a secta

I'm I'm going and there are questions that this, this, this, what I'm going

to say, take it for favor with the people that I'm hear of this episode

is different to the other because we we're talking about things about the

things that I'm much of the public. The public in the audience and if this

so I'm with car for that they're they're they can't detectar

men because they can't a blacko, a machete. If me said that the person moved to the

eye the one of the matter, it's a minute, if they're if you're because, no, no,

no, no, no, no. Detectar the comportment is a lot of more is a complex than a lot of

courses, if I'm a ratic me can't say. Totally. Not anything. No, not the detector

to make a lot of a lot of menire. I'm I'm pelle with the type that

me put because that we we're doing that's a little bit and then I said, I'm trying to

have used to do you know, but I'm doing it's not you know, you're not you're saying you're saying,

you're going to you're doing in the organism. How you know, you know, or is an o'clock, or that's an problem, you

presuppone, that's the pattern no, I'm going to make sure, and then I'm saying, and then I'm

this, the only that you say is that no I'm in calm. And with what

things not I'm in calm. A part of you

have you have a time of the time you do you get to you get to

you get to you're not you don't really that's what you do you

the point. The point is that here a woman that

a time in the thing and a professional very

can't and she doesn't no there there doesn't

this person is not you can you can't

you can deducing what areas are in those that's that are you are that is not being modifying information

that area is that incomod that area not is a lot of hours and a lot of

reflections in tornoa and much studies of transfond between micro-expressions

facial is the to get the dialogue to get and to start

to start areas where there's different phenomena that are

different phenomena that express ideas, no? And she says, and the whole of those these factors, no, it can't

give to, to severer that is making, no, but you make to put yeah the end of the ringlone, we'll say,

we're going to make, and then it's a, that's, and in this area. So, it's

a detector at final, that's a lot, because I'm a lot, because a person here, and

they're, that because Tartamodea, mient. Because he's, voice, Mient.

Because I'll look at the eyes. No. No, no, it's

it's a bit more complex. Yeah. The one of the first questions is to do

a baseline, a line a line of base, but that's that takes a much much time,

because if you want to do you know, no, no know the person is if they

are a bad news, if he's probably, if not he's not he's all this

influence in the way in how you want to to It's the Trot Normal

exists this book that is this book that really the human not is a conscious,

but his decisions on the different things important those decided in the first two

two seconds to toparse one and the idea that was the idea that did in those first

in those things just to justific that story and it has to be

and the book about when the when you present when you presentate

the because after you get the thing, because many of our processes to accredit or deserited

the person are inconscientes when a person like Tony has a process of the process of practice of

kind of thing for the form mechanic for the moment to be front to be in other form that not is the

normal habitual of the human is a person of the other because if

you not you get it's something so so that I'm I recommend the

stories that we stories, the idea of this channel is entertainment, definitely, but that's thematic of mentiras of manipulation. It's very profound. If no, it's very simple, because

they're there are books and books and books and books and and books and books and books and you're not you're in many languages of many different. Because not you're not. It's a time very profound. In the way, so, they're

in ideas. There are people who are not they're not in how to get to a certain point and have a alternative

and they're even there affectations cultural that's not the same for the person

for example there's a book I think the most the most for the techniques of

influence the the the the the the the

keyaldini doctor Kaldini or Shialdini if I'm doing say Kaldin

but is like Italian then then then you send the

book Yeah. And he, yeah, and he has these principles, but also

mention that there aspects culturales that you have to consider it also. He says, these

principles fundamental. But, but also there are other things that influence

to the person, to the person, to that you do you not the not the

does the thing, for example, and this is in another practice, that is

very related with also with engineering social. In Mexico, we'll work much the

the, let's come in the man. Or let's let me the man. Sure. Oh,

you know, how is the chief, I'm the man, no. Or, what's the thing is,

and in questions of Asia, in special in in Japan, the authority. No, so is that

I'm a person, or I'm, or I'm the person who, or if you know, or if you

see, it's the guy, let me pass because if, no, to give information.

So, are these questions that are that are also this panorama of influences,

and to try to learn a person or if is that could what is what is and fiftate, in a

culture, inclusive, there's subentornos. And in the subentornos there are codes that

denotan if a person is in their subentor or is there just there just just being,

and is part of the And are things of that nobody or is that is that so,

is it so, but not you're not that you're that you get a tourist that's

that's not because you're being your code of what you have been so you're in the

in the place commercial and you say you these are these are these are

people you're to think you're to think you're not you're not even

the code of the code of the form of the word of the color of the

browned that they have the type of the they're getting the time on the

kind of the rhythm, the form in the way in the way they're in one side to other and this type of things is that they're that's an inconsient that for you simply is continue with your day in something that is normal

and habitual you're wrong and it's where it's where the quantity of information that we have a level inconscient that we're in

a pattern that simply fluey only is enormous and not we're concerned of this thing I mean I can't

There's one, for example, there are some questions of the ingenuity social. Not only, I mean, we've been said, that's a time of the message, of, to mandaes, to send messages typical, like are calls,

telephonicas, some devices, that they're not attractive, questions, no, that's what most common. Also, we're doing other aspects in evaluations physical.

How is that? There is, there not so, well, If, if it's the hand with

how sure is your your place, it's, it's also

to provide proceedings to get a places in the where you have been the

access. We're make a prentice. There's there. There's new in

this channel is getting and you know, it's a idea that's the human hacking. How can

describe to make a way First, we're to take certain concepts that

are in the man. There's, there's a concept that's about ingeny social.

This concept if is very old, now as we know we know we, and it's

for the puritanos that we knowh. Now, now, we know, it's a

security of information or with the cybersecurity and basically it's basically,

it's all what we we're doing, or manipulate to the people, with the

fin of getting information or access to or access to places that we're not to have access. Equipers,

computer, a laptop, cellular. Equipos, yes, laptops, servitors. And, and places

to, you know, you're getting to a company in the where there's a guard and not

you can't get a certain and a area, and a zone restringida, and you have to be

pastrocer, and then you know, because that's that's, any other it could be

obviously the bandera roja is to be from the initial. Then it's

a question yeah that's this this this this this

this new precepto of new applied only to

security to the information so it's combined with

maybe more more than what for what so so

he's he he he called human hacking. Because here

is what we're In engineering social, you know, one, like, say,

a decontent or evaluator. Yeah, we want to get you want your password. Necessito that he

let me do. So, I have my finality. I'm going to do different methods to obtain, that

information. In the human hacking, is a little bit of the reverse. It's, I know

how I can't influence or manipulate to a question or the majority of the

person. Or know those other those I'm nothermentas, I'm, I'm going to a set of instruments that I'm going to do. I'm going to be. A lot of say,

like, activities that not are the beneficiaries, the, the pyramids, uh,

for much of this, including the gurus of TikTok and the media social. Yeah,

manipulate in this situation. So, that is the difference. Human hacking is basically, it's basically,

it's more more than the manipulation, or the influence, if no is, how I can I

can be a certain comportment to obtain a result desired. Yeah. Okay.

In the human hacking is, I'm all the things of the

change of a person, affect to the incontient to the

form to think, to make or I'm to think in something

and the only that I'm to is, what is my purpose

for the day of day of what I do that that is the

always, it's a kind of on this kind of is positive.

No, also positive totally totally. The inclusive the

ensignance, no, the form of, to learn to teach. Questions that basic and that I had put attention to these points is the reason. And it's a very, very, very, very obvious, yeah that we know, but the reason for the

which exist, for example, in an enterprise, the, lines, the lines of , these lines of, many lines on the, in the piece, because I want to that the people see, and not for here. So, that's, that's, that type of

questions, that is, well, it's obvious, well, not so so if I want that the people need to say, I need to say, he's going to say to get to

say, be there, be there, but here, you can't pass accidents, no? I'm just,

I'm, and he says, well, for the lines. And a sometimes, yeah, we're doing,

so, those questions, from that basically, to obviously what we've seen, probably the

questions more extreme, no, that is control, manipulation total, of the of the

of the of the of the case, in this case, in this case, you're in questions of this.

You're saying, we're going to suppose, we're, we're going to put into a lot of delinquents that

we're doing this re-apprendan retomen concept, borrary a bit, be too,

be too be so much to be so much to be to be a point? So,

would be actually definitely definitely also questions inclusive, and not I'll say this is, this is, this is, this is, this is, this, is, this, is, that are

to consultar more than, but are questions that that are, even, even, even, even, even conductual, no, that can us can't help us, the, certain, certain things, including, there are questions that,

that are based on something, and no, we know, that for that were that, and there, we, we, we're, of, no, of, of, of, certain, of, of, of, certain, certain questions and

certain things and some things that even us us are even us actually physically physically physically

this is questions and this is question and this this is what we're just just as to emphasize it's like

so as you know for not for that not so not necessarily something something not necessarily

something are the things of persuasion to put ideas in the people including

manipulation to change concept etc. in a human, but as we're in, we'll

talk about the way to be the dark as the world of these questions and of the time we're many times,

the first I told you that little after you came here a little bit of a story that I said

this is material for Tony. This is that's telling is for him. The moment more difficult of his

life was because not he did know that he took with people who were to those

them were they were they were they're has a company. The people

me says if know of the person who is a woman who she's a

question that she's a kid the person who's she's getting a thing

and she's getting incredibly well. She's doing something something that was a

opportunity to know. In his account of a bank, it needs that there

a amount of money because their business depends of

transactions monetary is certain certain certain certain No, a day

that they're like a top of a bit of a time he a new

to get a carer but at the same time, they're at point to

have done to get a so that so my people, my

spott, the time, the and the world, and with other

other trats, oh, I have to I'm to talk to the

part are a point to do a reinvention of the

brand and she is the creative so they're in the head to be

the little this person and so while this

is a word I'm a good good I

don't say the name we we we have

you have some those movements we're we we we're

we we're we we do you, see, you,

this, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, and you need to

never, no more you can't do the number, and you can't do the number, and a part of there,

a series of that she and that's a, alibiada because he no, no,

where I'm to get to affect the money or right, the transactions that I've been,

you've been, three days after, and then, the a repent, he to say,

he says, I need, I need the money for transactions and not are in the account? How do you

not get in the account? No, no, not is there the cellular. And we let him get

many zeros to that account, much. It was impossible. The money that was not.

It was a amount of important, but you not could be any a transaction. And she

enter in shock. What happened? What did be a error? He said, no.

He did a in a city, in a city, in a city, he's he's got

a lot and he he's not a time, I never did that that's

a new person, she's a new target to get a life, it'll two

years. And this is the situation that day we're that's the people,

that's that's that's it's that's that's probably, you're

a lot of people without a person to get a collapse nervous in the

that's a point to make a point to make a in the way to be

a lot of the time. He makes a little that's and it's all the things.

When she does the change and decide to give his things,

it'll take a time to get a time. It's because it was

all this was all this was for part of these tactics of engineering social, right? Yeah. Well, according to what you're

what you're probably probably there's a question that is one of the techniques. I mean, right, in the

anterior episode, you know, you can't be there, there we're we're not in the techniques or the types

of the types of the attacks that they're that are these delinquents and those we're the

different types. now, we're seeing of the transbambalinas what techniques

utilizes a engineer social, in this case for prevening this type of things. And one of

these techniques is, is, among many, there's a question that's

a question. A ever, tell me, that's a term, of the government,

I'm elication. Elicitation. In the which I, I Apparento

Proportioning information relevant with the finality that you do you give

information in reality it's like questions for example that they say is that

my name I was you know you said it's to get

information is the typical how is metto met stam for

I know the Ditch Ah yeah the the

deal to make a that's no that's that's exactly

is the the proportionate the the proportionate information that

was relevant but in reality not is with that the person

and the person is important for example this detects some some

some movements rare not so don't be in this

moment I want to of security, I need to corroborate certain information that I have here my system. So, those transactions were a total and such a little bit of a

chequeachia. Okay. It was a transaction for that quantity. I have the last four digits of the transaction. Is this correct? No.

I could corroborate and so you start information and, and, at the information that they're just they had. Another example.

Detect us information. Detects activity malicious in your account and we're going to have some transactions. One of them

is on a company in in the city of Mexico. You're in that moment here. No, I

am. Okay. And that type of questions where you're doing something, probably is

an information that's an information with the finality of that you corroborer or

to do information this person no, the confirm information. That's

a tactic for example they're using in the engineering social for the

information. So, okay, I'm okay, I'm activity of your account

that's being used in Spain your account is that, his

his account is a name point a appe a

coo no no is a pay a okay

capital to capitalize the error of Sure, clear,

sure, if me had been to I'm talking in the technique was this. Good

good time. I'm talking about the Blancoachos I'm the first of Carlos. No,

I'm Armando. Perfect. And a part of there. Armando, right?

Yeah. And then so, yes, but it's the, yes, but it's certain,

is that information and to be something. Another question that's that's a much,

and it has a question in informatic that's the buffer overflow or

saturation of buffer. Buffer is a channel of memory that manage a certain capacity of

memory only. When that is a saturate or when receive more information, then he

and he doesn't do you do that in the programs. Dehases to function adequately

but many times that he's that doesn't be to be open or a

access that no should be or you can do you permit execute

certain functions that not that would as it's not it's

not it is a so it's simply to alter to alterer their functionation and now

so I'm some of the basicies of the buffer overflow there's also mental overflow

that's a combination that was the first was the first was when you're when you're talking about

this person has been this person has and manage it so then probably

probably received a name a in the in the in the

the worst moment possible. Why? Because not going to put attention to what they say. And if it resuena remotely familiar what he's talking,

then it's a sensation of tranquillity. Exactly. And he says, no, well, it's a but it's

that buffer overflow, that much times is it's used for, for not to let

the, in this case, the person that's being affected by that brain overflow or mental

overflow, uh, whether or it's a example, I'm a second, or I'm, I'm,

he's a person, and he says, no, is that need this situation with my account, me could be

a good, so what is a number of account? And I, I do a number of account.

I go, I said, he's a person, yeah. Hey, if you can verify,

also, in what she is, in what she is, in what she's doing, I'm, I'm doing

other questions to sturor your can't, that's She's got her channel of memory

and then that she's not being not being to be able to do that. Just to you know to

say that. I've known many cases. You know, you know, you know, I've

seen, you know, they've done, they're people, uh, sir,

good's time, and I'm a moment, and if you detienes a second, it's a

time, and then it has been a way to do this, sirs, and it's a,

in the moment in the world is, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm trying to attention, not my

ears of my eyes, even to tap into the not, I'm not you're not you're not.

And then they're doing a response firmatio, or so, something, something that

even with a movement of the head, you're you're in the practice that they

they're going, they're a firm, or start a process, that they've recorded, they're,

they're, they're the responses that they're so they're going to like your self-conduct

of relaxate. And the only thing is to get to get for a process of manipulation

for the thing to you're to make a product that you do you're doing it. So,

or in the companies, for example, there, if I require

to me firm or that a person or a situation similar,

I do you do you don't want to put attention. And in

that I'm in that I'm in the moment in I'm going to ask things that they

are to be things you see the game of Tigres a year. How he he's

he'll think of this. So he he's he's he's doing,

and then I just need to just to be that I'm and I'm need to be you know, I'm not

that's a very positive very very good and I do you do you want to

you're in the area that you're going to do you obviously have to do something because I need to

you get to the focus and you get to where I want to I

I want. I need just to just just say a little change. Because if you not the

people are going to think this is a manual of how convert to make you in a

manipulator. There you go. The idea of here is, let us, let us

let us let me talk Tony when we're doing, the information,

the is to be that this is a point more prevening of this type of

situations if you get to being, you're being, you're using a technique of manipulation,

awas, because something what you can do you to to defender to this type of situations, Tony?

There's a series of techniques that they're using one of them is the sense of urgency. The

sense of urgency almost always will be present in the in the phoneos

in the calls telephonicas in including in the interactions personal

as like, like, like, I need, I need this is a rapid this

yeah is they're going to so what the he's you're doing you're

that's that's that's that's something of the same always the

yeah it's you know you need you know you so yeah so you

did a transaction yeah yeah so uh so uh...

uh... uh... detects an activity in your account not

authorized you need something I need something I know

The first is, if I have a situation that is extrana, I mean, of my, of my line of work and my activities, respiration, is, is, is think, take a minute,

and to be, and see what is what I'm asking. Because, because many times we're trapped in the day-a-day. Also, I'm saying,

that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,

that, to be. Why? Why would I ask you this? If it's a time

that's a time to take a time, respire, and think before to give and

think, and to provide information, and before to act always, that's

space of, I'm going to take a time, I'm going to be a new age

and it's that's the say, okay. I'm going to

what is what is what see it's any more what's saying.

Oh, for what want my credentiales? Nobody nobody never to know my

people need to know my need to let's change the credentiales okay, well,

there's there's a certain combination or so I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a

cliential. It's like in the courtoe you know, a email, was activity

inusual for to re- to read do click here. No, well,

I'm, well, I'm, the page official that I know the that I'm

the same exactly. It's to make control of that the same. Oh, okay, no you're

so, okay, no you're not so much I'm going to me communicate to or go to the subcursal. So, that

question is to take the control, that they they're because they're a script, a series of

techniques that's done that's and provided. So, so is that's, take some

time, think a moment, and quit the control at through that. Okay. Much

thanks for report to report it. I'm, I communicate directly with the bank. Necessites to change your contraseeing. Very well,

I'm going to do. If necessary, I go to the page official, yeah, say, of my work or this, not

to the league that they do. So, so it's a question also, psychological or

mental, that we have to do to do that's the only that are being

cybernetics vulnerabilities questions technical vulnerabilities technical failures in the configuration

the attack of engineering social are there are emotions and sentiments so emotions and sentiments is the

only is the thing you know you have you think you think you think the

people those people do you consider very well noten how

all the attack of this type in engineering social is

that you the key that you the key the because you you are the piece important that is the

information is a one is simply if you is in this situation do you do this

no does no des no click nothing detente detent and detent totally

but he's to do that you're in that's in that in the

time in the the is a better is more not not

in this moment revisa well the protocol it's a lot of what you are the

time in the control of the situation what's what is the call the call the call the

call the if it's a going to go back and if it's the bank you can you can't

you can't so there so far for the family nocturn that we don't know

we're let's let's let's I'm that you know they're in cronics of

the narrator in the we're just we're just that tony it was there's that he

had been not you have a lot. We've got to a time that me

passion a much, that's the cyber security. It's good because this this time

one, well, I'm going to propose a and you say, if it's something that

you're that you do that. Family Nocturna. If you have doubts of

cybersecurity, he's going direct to Instagram of Tony and they can ask questions and the

good Tony that you like the first? The first first of the first people that

they'll respond directly there and clarandolus how the merit that I can't. With all

video cortito. Now he's tague for you know for you know so much much thanks

so much thanks so many people and then doubts that they're doing, doads this is a question is a question

is a question delicate but but do that you knowinas that have done some and say

let us to don't you tell me because this will be the second episode of various because this

time is super interesting so then tell the stories for that Tony also also that Tony also

that's that's and he's and he's going to come to come to share this time.

And it's a way to talk with what you have to mentionar to talk about. I'm a person a person very persinada

very, very persinada of all the life. Yeah is a person major to day of today

to you, you know I'm a person to say, and you say, I'm saying,

you're that's that's that's to hackkearm all, because she has a correa

and that that's a all the things. Exactly. And it's a correct important for the

accounts that has a is a business that she has has a questions familyaries

delicates etc. So, a part of the part of that I know this

is this the I get a call and he says he he's

he never they never they never they get never they get to the Correo

Basura things like he not he has taken the man and mande and they

have in the mail a caro a caro that says notta personal

I do you so so he so he said and he you say

the car from the right and is the same I'm I'm have

to do you say you say I've been I've been spying

in your camera, I've been doing the things that's doing the things that's doing,

and I'm these things that's doing. He's when I'm when I know,

I'm put pallid, I'm said, yeah, it's, but when me said, I don't

consume those things. And I'm me, I'm, me stanching. That's, that's

that's not of God. That's that person as, like, such, what,

so, but I'm, but, that in this case he hallo with because it's

the block and because he said, no, this is a dialogue generical because me

is a part where he's not me does it not me even if it was a

hello Tony, so if if it was personalized or what or what or how

me name no, not they're in that in this case probably

probably has been in the particular that they put is a subplantation of identity but in this case is only

an etiquette that's on it's a person and appears there in your in your correo, like if it was a little bit of your carreau but, well, it's, it's an etiquette on of one veradero

so colloquially talking. Because, what is, I mean, and this just yeah, no more is, if I would have access a courier, then I'd be a correo, so I'll get it. And yeah?

And, yeah. Ah, so, yeah, I've I have, clear, for the he robo all your

countes. So, so what you say, this question of etiquette is, is interesting

because I think the system is a old very much, in the United in the

time, I don't do you think it was that they're going to some time, and it

was of the first fraudes for card that called the FBI and he was

he was investigated and he in the US US received the same card

that said about to support, I know, that they've had gotten something, and they

were going to them or two dollars or two dollars or two dollars, and that they were that they

would be a part of the money. The quantity of it was many people but no received nothing

to do that no more so it was so what happened that was that was going to come to

the F.I. Because to it was a million, 200,000 people. And they pedian

equal one or two dollars, a quantity a little bit a car to

a person related to the FBI because at final mandated right exactly

that's what they're what they're they're they're they're a fraud massive

because was a problem that's that's there's people who people who

they're that's but the percentage of the that's super rentable a 10% with

that with that exactly that you superable the cost of the cost of the paper and the card and the card

and the timbre so they were in the proportions enormous functioned very and they'd many dollars or 200,000

dollars. And when you you're going to get that in the paper, 10, 15, 20. And fiftate, I'm going

this, because I'm that I'm that's in this type of things, are made probably

from some probably from probably from some they're sending hundreds of millions of

a correo, maybe random, maybe is registered, and only it's a unethical, and it's

a little it's a kind of a so, no? Yeah, and it's very probably

that's, and more because it's he's in, it's or no desired, because,

for example, the email, for say, it's a bit chismosos. So, so there's, this,

this, it's, it's, it's probably fraud, or, if it's probably that's

fraud, then, so, he cased Jimmy, among other things, no, if they

need a that, that not should be to give them, it's not it's not they're

not. Or if they're in a sort of you're not not in a reporteo

are you are you. So, the premium are you is a very good phrase.

Yeah. No, no, no, no. Let me let me tell me,

Tony, quentame for far, for to go this second

episode because you know this this This is to try for more more easily.

No problem. I think we're going to we're going to we're going to do you're so many times how you're you

in total fastil? 10, 12 like one like those 15 points with those 15 points.

So, then say for favor for when they're in this third episode because to me

it has been to be before the final of year. It would be interesting no?

Yes. Well, there tell us for a anecdote into the experiences

that's have been within the human hacking that to you have surprised

that you're that you know, what was the what they're and where they did it? and to

do you know, and it's something, I think it was that's me was, of the,

we're doing, not just we're doing this type of evaluations with courier or with,

but we're doing, we're doing to do you get to a certain place. When

about the profile physical. Ah, the profile Uh-huh.

It's a person that's a person, but in that then was his first, uh, asercamint,

he called my asercamins, that is that assessment. And he, was basically technical, so,

is he, he, he, he chequeable medically, this, equip, no, but there,

but there, was, there, a person that me accompanied, and he, he,

he, he set the rife. And it was one of the first questions and why me it's something that so simple that no's required absolutely nothing and at the date

she's still according of that situation and then I said, and that's going to enter to a company, but no, we don't us go to register or nothing. We'd have a gaffet

generic to pass desercivied or to make us in the people because all the mann't use a gaffet or as a, as the company, we'd have one

generic, that's the I'm like, okay. And I said, this is the part of important. Yeah,

standing in the yeah, yeah, yeah, we've got much a way, we're going to get to do.

And he's, but he's the only good, the only good I'm going to do you know, and that you

think you think you you're going to be here. Okay. So, our leg, you're,

you're going to come to this, we need to here, because we we're going to allow, not more

that they know they know, so, and so, and so, as you, asy,

even saludand they were to control this, of access and they were some for

visitants, and nothing more, we'd access to so, so like, and we

pass us side. And the Fed, so, me does access, for

favor. They've that we're that we're that we're that we had to something,

and obviously summed to be a here here to be there so

so that's a because he's the same person me me said one

this to enter to a a residential of this with private

or with control of access in the colony he said I'm I'm

I did I did you know for one and

he's me does access so me I don't forget my access. He said,

he said, no, I went to see that. He said, he was being to the car, he

kept, and then you can't give access, I'm here in the house of the house of the and he

gave access. So, and he was just just that's the thing, it's like if mercied to be here,

pertensieres to be here. No, does nothing. It's one of the questions because

they have to take in account the profile that we have we're we're

We're not even haven'ted or nothing. So the interaction of the physical is difficult.

And now that's nerve that you do, and at the feach me do, the,

the, the, the, I'm, the know that I need to end-

that person to, for, to get a thing. This fin, obviously, this is a

process to, this is a way, they're doing this, and say, me,

I did this this, so, so are questions that no, it's

a question of attitude, the fact the fact that the, it's a good, even when

we said, my hittio came in the right, that's, it's a good, so, it's,

so, it's, but when it's required to send a message in the aspect no verbal,

uh, help, they do, help a much, and functionan. So, there,

there, there, there was a situation that, I can do, I'm,

there's a, it's a great story of something with this

what's saying Tony, the language no-verbal, the is about

the know of the a lot of, a They know manage this

type of situations. So, there was one that's separate of the group. They're

so in me contrar many, many, many details of what he is one,

separate, be that's a place in the there's in the way that way to

security, no, there's nobody that really that really that the access is a

police, and then then he simply like if he was being

being people, and imitando the people, there's being really the comportment of the

police at almost for a minute and he starts a pattern a pattern

very repeated. Vene a person vesty of a civil to where he

came a person with a doctor and and he not a because

that's he says no, he's he knows, but there was he said

what I'm here, he's he's a where he he's he's

he's he's he's a and a a mochilla, has a batta a

doctor pass. He's he's, he he, he know he

he know he know he he's he's the he and he and he

a car a kind of a car a a

and he put and he and he he was coming and

he he still he's he he's he he's no I

don't he don't he I'm oh man a rata this person

mark it by telephone and I said, I'll get you guys and we're doing this and we're

this. Well, the person took access to the hospital during three three months

doing that that's this is tremendously ridicule the that they have that

the time that and there was a interview and he's put to talk with him

he said you you're not you're not you that's obvious that bat

that's that's that we have many days here he says

she how you did you and he he's like your system of security is a person there's a

person there and say he's stupid or so no have no time he's he said

me never put to think that I think that's I think and there other history in

this group in the there is a company that has to be much with

systems of systems of things yeah we're not for

put put your name I don't Areas in those that really they're presteering attention and are doing systems of security a detail

because they're looking something and others that for maybe because not they're not because they're there's very very discuidated.

This person this company and in this company ficticia that we're that is of Leone Guarajuato when it's

when it's a group of guards of security that the guards of security see in persons like very imponent

and they're to all the people with with a certain level of desprecio and antipatia absolute to not generate

like any a single and this person and says what's good after well as formace

and put there no there's no there's they're this person to a question of

a a job but is an external so so so

very very very rigid and where where give us these these these

this photos this document and apart we need this revision, markle a a person or you know a control

that he has a 45 minutes pass from a to point A to enter in the vehicle then after

me confess that you never me expectioned the vehicle me me, me,

me, they're many things that are very easy to put them much control but a

level very limited and if I entered an area and this person

is a enjugue bucal and then they're going to you know you're saying, no, sir,

you're not saying you're doing data of detection of alcohol and trara no can't and say,

then he's this, it's chingad, no. I've said, and then he says, but no,

it's any sense, for what I want to do you, what I'm doing this control that

you're in this control that's metient but I I'm going to do

a situation, no, well, well, is that are the the business.

For that's they're doing to the people to be the people

are the people who are the people in the work specific in this company and

he said, he said, he said, no, he's certain, the filters for them,

pass. And then he's stupid, they're they're they're very bad

planted of their security. Some filters caros and costos but

things very those are things very is that he well, we'll, we'll, we'll really how this, this situation.

He's not going to that's in the game where they're getting a tonneying a time, minimum, we'll do, we'll do, we're doing

a little bit more. And then they had been to do the process of access and he said, and if I'm my manner. And he had

said that I had to show, and then I'm so, so, and then when he comes, he, he never

says, he and he does and they're so they're they're doing the door. Termina, in the

cell of the directives of the company and they have pure rules there were

in those that they had to make certain some other of a person in the other

the other the door not to start he went and it and it he said

he said he said he said the person that the person that he he's

how chikos you're you're like you this is a business is a a business is

a a business is a word a man me contracted and I'm here I'm like,

for any person can enter. What you have is like a pure bluff and appearance. So, with this of the Yuma Haki that

we're seeing is like, it's true, a little very obvious and very logical, but not they're not

taking into many factors of those areas in where someone could have access to even to places of

the place. Yes. And I remember this ultimate and ligand it in, for example,

the last the ultimate assessment that is his physical, It was in the subcursals. This was the same

company in the company in the you're in the same company financial in the subcursale to be able to get to

get some problems I mean I don't just like a set of some set of a set of

a carta made for me obviously with the logo of the company that I

did the internet I waske names in of people that resone and that were accorded

to the pretext that I'm using to visit the subcursal. And in that card, they said, that was that

was that was that are the things that I need to do. Obviously, are the things of my

interest in the machines or in the people of the people of the subcursal. And

I put a number of contact. It's a number that will contested a

friend my in case that you know, making to pass for this person and a

email about a general that's a car that I have a portfolio

a a a identification of a visitant that I think and I

gave a in my car and I in my car to okay that's

that's the same that he of office mag me said the with the

more so that's so so, no, for that's more real, me said, okay,

and I go. And I go and I'm a visitant number tal, another project that, I'm going,

I'm going to do, do you know, to do this tasks, a number of a person, I need to

review of your equipment, with the card in the and I said, me,

they're going to ask, the minimum that they're to be a batch you, but was a batch

was a general, I, I, I was a photo of a profile

of Facebook in that moment because because no I don't have another. So,

there, and with that we're in the machines of the succursals, with the companions that were very well, amables,

all, no, good people. The same, in other subcursal of here of the central of

Monterey, the same situation. Nobody me pired the card, nobody me me pired

nothing. Me didn't, me, they're even, I mean, is that, literally,

not it's that, no, because I had certain procedures I need to verify

the connection with the succorsal matrix in a new page that we're doing.

No, have your machine I mean, I'm they're going with the machine.

Wow. Wow. There are questions that and that now now, now I

see that I was a vestido business casual, so pantalone of

not of a messlilla a camisa and and the I'm of

nothing of I authority, nothing. And with that. Or so, they're null control

of security? I mean, the security or null a non- conscience of the security? No,

the conscience of security. There, they were they were to get to get to someone to

try to get to something to try to get to that's the thing. And there's,

there's the question in the that this thing of person that to do the company that

has salvated, not, it was another situation, but it was, well, I've been a

whole, I'm going to be a lot of, not a case of, because it's a house of

a lot, but it's a, a, a, you know, and they're there's, they're in important.

And the way to to get there was that, we're going to go to some new polo,

this, and them, and we're, and we're we're saying, we're we're

the support technical, and He's in the preface. Yeah, in serious. I do

do for the nervous, I think that I need to go to go to do you know, so the first we

was a a port of security and we're seeing, we do we're the support technical and

we've sent us we've been a team and that was our pretext to see that

all is that all is that all we're doing we're the first we've was like

a like a armio with the armory with I mean, we know, who are they,

and then here are all the people, and we're going to talk to all. No, well, we've been the

routes. Here we're in the horaries of the IPs. Here we have those who are out of the country,

and then we know, let me go to go to the ban. And I'm my other friend, and I'm

my other friend, and was there because, because we're a menace because we're not a menace for this

is the part for this type of situation. Sure. That interesting. You're da-a-naisht.

I think I think the question of the how to how to get to get to

the zone of radar. Because at the final is to obtain something. That's that you're

that's you're doing something. You're trying to get to the a place.

You're not. to have information, including to have all the diagram internal of how are distributed televisories,

equipes that have I think they're I'm, I think I'm not, that's always these methods

have been evolved, and the technologies and those times, in the 90. I know

that the very a very price and many many like the people, they're

they're they're not, because they never participate the first you.

So, the person human who's a special for one part

and for the other other the question of exclusivity of the status are people

are they are they are they are they are really a talon of two-mills that I'm

that me me me voled the because it occurred with some

people that was a problem but it's a problem

that does understand the natural human human. The

a day a subject a school and see that two two

are still are still their people to get to their family and the

young are in the men are very very very very bonito

he he doesn't not of that but they say caros

very very very car and the other other of the latter

the next and he's the day of the time of the couple of the time. And then he he's

starts to talk oh, figgins, the form very casual without give us no,

man, I mean, I've had a day very special me he gave

at the little the perro that he had three years I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm he's he he's he's he's

he said piturry so are those are toros for the

Spanioles for when they in the rodate and all of those are those they're not and when

they're gonna they're they're gonna they're they're really so I'm it's raresting

I'm to do a lot of permission and they they're and they they're

he's not all that grid what we know what you know how you have you something

you know you know he's instantly you you're sure sure

says but no it cost much minimum it would for a 20%

more than what me cost. We're going to put to put it to put in to put to spend

you know $40 to $45,000 $45,000 minimum if no oh, oh, boy,

it's much money. No, no, I don't I want, I'm three years and you

don't, no, I'm no, I'm a push between the two.

And the other well, I don't, I'm a year, and the other, no,

I'm, and then and this person says, no, you know, is that, Well, if you're so, I know

that I can't sell in $50,000. At the day the day of the next you'll have the $60,000 $0,000 if me do you do

$0.000, for a perro in-existent. And, and he says, because this person is a matter in the he's not, he's not,

he's not, it's that they're playing for something that's not. Yeah, existia at the internet.

So, yeah, they could be to be able to look, or they're to do and they're

to say that there. No, there was no, no, there was he says,

but first me does the transference because I want that the parrot to give it well I'm going to get to check out you know,

it's like that something that's that I'm going to a week and it I'll give a second. How do you the transference

right? It's, he's, in that instant could be the fraud for something that no

there's no way to be a way of it, it's what's stupied how

we're the people of the that's just there but because just the

you're emotions, you're in the two areas and we're just to be people logics, we're just

people that we're doing this story is a drama sorted the carcachada when I said and say

boy, busken internet piturry and then give me if you're you're he's the

and he's he's not he says, oh yeah no appears nothing, I'm gonna and you're

all you're all being it was a grand, grand, a little they're

doing the other years the other the other the endotot of the perros and the

person that's that you do you do you act you're a form

very erratica inclusive in contra of those own interests

definitely there is one of the precepts of the of

engineering social so that that maybe can they

can do that you do you do you do you

do or that you know the intention to realize Tony, much thanks for the

information, thanks for all the data, where you can see the people? The

internet, human, human, human, and Hardener, and for, well,

the human hardener, if not there, I'm going to be tagged and me see them,

this, I'm, I'm, going to runudar to continue, I'm

a little desactualized in the sense that has been up new but I'm

going to be able to get up the type of content and then after the questions

that are getting going to we're doing on the media in the media in the

what are you can find you can you do you I'm that I'm

I'm basically Instagram is the that I'm that I'm using but

more Instagram is the Instagram is the you're and YouTube

not is so interactive Instagram, yes. YouTube I'm a YouTube, I

know I check the comments for that you're my ego. But then first 100 people who have doubts

about this thing, and you'll respond to direct. Yes, direct in a video.

Perfect. And the video, do you doves to a platform? Yes,

in Instagram and I'm going on some other platforms. Oh, go,

blah, blah, and for you, and for you this is the second episode of

various more that we they've given in account this time that's the time are more

and more and more and those who get on this point, thanks for having been to be able to

keep like, and I'm to comment that if you're going to talk to a carotel

in the that's a one tony and I think it is a 30 minutes in

those we're talking on the other thematic also a part of cyber

security other part also also of other part that's there's the narrator

and there's like beautiful semester and that's sweet and that's