HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP 042 SANTERIA, PALO MAYOMBE, YOTUBA Y VOODOO FT - PODCAST EXTRA ANORMAL

Episode Date: November 24, 2022

EP 042 SANTERIA, PALO MAYOMBE, YOTUBA Y VOODOO - FT. PODCAST EXTRA ANORMALHoy en "Hablemos de lo que no existe" en colaboración con nuestro amigo Paco Arias, Host del podcast ExtraAnormal, hablaremos... acerca de las Religiones africanas.La mística detrás de estas creencias, historias aterradoras relacionadas con el voodoo, la santería y el PALO.En definitiva un episodio que no te puedes perder.Y para todos los interesados en el contenido detrás de cámaras, material inédito e historias que no salieron en este episodio, les recordamos que tenemos una membresía en Youtube, que por 50 pesos al mes tendrás acceso a este contenido y a todos los vídeos de HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE, SIN ANUNCIOS

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Welcome to Family Nocturna A episode more of about we'll be the day of we're a episode very special because me
Starting point is 00:00:09 a distance but in the studio my good friend Paco Arias Paco, how you're doing? What is how the narrator
Starting point is 00:00:16 very well and very happy to be here with all of you guys the really is that
Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm I'm here to your program the the reality is that many that many
Starting point is 00:00:24 people that are going to know that can know also that we
Starting point is 00:00:29 we we try of some experiences of the podcast Extranormal I'm sure I'm sure thank you
Starting point is 00:00:35 thank you many people many people of the family nocturna and people that recently has known
Starting point is 00:00:43 the podcast for these collaborations that we've said when they're when they're to have
Starting point is 00:00:47 your podcast so well what you think that you go there going to
Starting point is 00:00:51 this episodes they're going like a podcast exclusive or
Starting point is 00:00:55 the collaborations are these sporadical they're saying by the
Starting point is 00:00:59 thing. But Paco, a pleasure, a pleasure, I'm trying to keep here this these last few times of the last
Starting point is 00:01:07 collaboration that we did it's the legendas to Latin America to the people of the podcast he's
Starting point is 00:01:15 he's great because normally as we're we're talking some some some other or themes that are
Starting point is 00:01:22 in Mexico so in this in this chapter of the legendas Latin America
Starting point is 00:01:27 we we've we've we've we're And the truth is that a much people
Starting point is 00:01:32 they've got really for the people who was listening in this episode in the
Starting point is 00:01:38 talk about the talk about we've seen we know that there specifically a place whose
Starting point is 00:01:43 legends are very attereradur so so very, very macabras let's
Starting point is 00:01:50 we recommend we're we're we're we're we're because there is a
Starting point is 00:01:54 competition that's that's good that's that's that's that's very
Starting point is 00:01:59 tetric the legends. If you're going to I'm going to I recommend much also the last experience the last
Starting point is 00:02:05 the last because it's the most macabra of all that's because it's because it's very rapts so really it's
Starting point is 00:02:13 very macabra yeah, coincide coincide was the most tethric of the most perturbored
Starting point is 00:02:19 of the episode but but of the other ways the legends that we've seen similarities
Starting point is 00:02:24 between various legends Mexican and other some South America. It's an episode that we recommend
Starting point is 00:02:30 to revisit. It's on the channel of Extra Normal. And, of actually, I'm going to leave the link
Starting point is 00:02:34 here in the first commentary fixed. Perfect. My man, muchism. And there, we're
Starting point is 00:02:41 we're going to see that chapter. The really, they're going to because I
Starting point is 00:02:46 know that your public not is specifically in Mexico. And we we're
Starting point is 00:02:50 we're also we're that the Yorona, that's the Sajona, so are like
Starting point is 00:02:56 many, many, many, many, many, many people, I'm going to be really good.
Starting point is 00:03:01 For the people that we're doing and that yeah, you know, remember, subscribe to,
Starting point is 00:03:07 give it, and make, and comment, if you do this episode, is the way in the
Starting point is 00:03:11 way we we can make our people, and with you know, and with those who
Starting point is 00:03:16 are new in the channel, let's commento that are the membersies, that by
Starting point is 00:03:21 the members ies, they have access to content exclusive, and to those who want to enter in question
Starting point is 00:03:27 of investigation, like to get us a lot more in the members, there's the membership of investigator. Now, so the day
Starting point is 00:03:34 of today we have a episode with a lot of many, various temasos because today we're going to
Starting point is 00:03:39 talk of the santaia, the palo mayombe, the yoruba, and the budu. Temas very, very,
Starting point is 00:03:47 very scabrosos. Paco, how you first question, how you went the investigation of these things?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Before to investigate the Not you So, no, I'm going to That's Repelus
Starting point is 00:03:57 of saying I'm I'm getting in the awas Yeah, of the actually
Starting point is 00:04:02 I'm when we put us the time that we did you we're I'm
Starting point is 00:04:10 I'm conscious of when we're sometimes when we all the
Starting point is 00:04:15 abyspero so so pass certain things so so
Starting point is 00:04:18 so right I put to read what was Boudoo Yoruba
Starting point is 00:04:21 that at At final of the point of the is that there's many ways to be,
Starting point is 00:04:26 it's the way, it's the people who do the people who do you, I don't just go to nobody,
Starting point is 00:04:31 we're all we're not, we're we're not, we can't be more more than the
Starting point is 00:04:36 paranormal. But also there are other other forms also to see all this that are
Starting point is 00:04:43 really, so are very macabras, very those, and that in the last
Starting point is 00:04:48 in the nights when normally I don't know I'm those I'm investigate
Starting point is 00:04:51 about various things. The fact, in this occasion I'm
Starting point is 00:04:55 the day to be a little more about this because for my work. I normally
Starting point is 00:05:01 I'm doing I'm going to 10, 11, to 3 at 3 the
Starting point is 00:05:05 morning. So, being things there them or even even
Starting point is 00:05:10 many cases of the people who are that are very
Starting point is 00:05:13 very there there there is a case a case of
Starting point is 00:05:17 a 100% and it's very macabro Perfect, we're going to start.
Starting point is 00:05:23 But I'm talking to this you're talking about about you need to you're in the day
Starting point is 00:05:28 to review the time to me were things sometimes I'm doing this
Starting point is 00:05:34 I'm not I'm not I'm like these the really that the fact is I'm
Starting point is 00:05:40 I'm I'm I'm things that was a an anecdote very, very, very, very extra.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I don't say macabra, but if I was very rare. So, me quitted a little bit of a tranquillity.
Starting point is 00:05:54 Okay. Stando a day, after having revised these thematicas, I was in actually,
Starting point is 00:06:00 I'm talking with a little bit of a chica that's doing with a santaa and we
Starting point is 00:06:07 did the thematicas in a form very limited of a form very, you can be an
Starting point is 00:06:12 very linder, but if we did, much of the religion not so we can't say it's only
Starting point is 00:06:19 for the people that are so it's secret so I'm going to say some say some people not really a
Starting point is 00:06:26 great revelation are things they're but I help you but I'm to help you're
Starting point is 00:06:31 so it's very people and it and I'm so I'm indigando
Starting point is 00:06:37 in the time so there there was there there was there I'm
Starting point is 00:06:40 there not I'm not I'm there was a ambient,
Starting point is 00:06:44 Leve, but it's a little, but it's a little bit of this in the night that's been super-extrable.
Starting point is 00:06:52 While I'm doing, it's a moment in the moment in the moment in the I'm so it was
Starting point is 00:07:00 very rare, it was like if it had an energy at maximum, as you had been
Starting point is 00:07:04 much, the of those you're like, you're like, I'm
Starting point is 00:07:08 I'm I'm in doing activities and actually very but at the same time it was a
Starting point is 00:07:15 a sensation a little rarer like if something more was going to be able the door, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:07:23 the door and I see a light that recorre the room from a end of
Starting point is 00:07:28 a and it and it posa just in the door and it
Starting point is 00:07:33 be like it's like a light that's like a very, very very
Starting point is 00:07:39 extrao never had seen or something. And then the center it's a
Starting point is 00:07:43 open a type of a vortex line of a color rojo. A rojo like a
Starting point is 00:07:49 like a like a ruby very bright and then I'm the light and me
Starting point is 00:07:58 get an idea to the head to the way the rojo that
Starting point is 00:08:02 that's that's but the scane of the look to when they
Starting point is 00:08:06 when they they're a when they're they're having a So, I said, no, it'ser that
Starting point is 00:08:12 someone's in the patio of the house. So, I'm I'm amom, and I'm in into account of the window the window of the
Starting point is 00:08:20 window of the door, of the form in the way in the way to do you know, I'm experimented the day next
Starting point is 00:08:29 and with a lightenerer and I, no, no, no, no, you can't get there because,
Starting point is 00:08:35 you're just, for the form of the court, but it was very extrano, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me, me, he madehue, me a little, me, me deyroquil, but it was, ah, la, madre, not
Starting point is 00:08:46 start to be talking things that no deveree? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and, of course, de, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And this passed because she started to indigar in these
Starting point is 00:09:12 things. You know, it's like the effect dominos. You know, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:17 and if not know how to do this and how to be able to get to maybe to
Starting point is 00:09:24 landes that are very dangerous, like you go doing, you're going to
Starting point is 00:09:29 you're going to you're going to experience in your life
Starting point is 00:09:33 many things. Basically, you Addentras, you make a even though you're doing, you know, you're basically
Starting point is 00:09:41 to have many experiences that are the people that are in these arts. Okay. This case, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:52 many of them to know, is the case of the famous YouTuber Paulette. Well, most we know and I'm
Starting point is 00:09:58 really, I'm really, so it's a job, his form of how narrs the stories, but
Starting point is 00:10:03 something not I know much, for example, I don't, I know this case, but I saw his content, and his content
Starting point is 00:10:09 if he had somethings, they were things very occulted, I'm not so you, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:10:18 and then when I go back to consume your content, I've got a lot of a 100%
Starting point is 00:10:25 of, of relato, of all what is the thing paranormal brugery can, a,
Starting point is 00:10:31 a, a, a, a, a, a, casos, that
Starting point is 00:10:33 go to assassino serials or a little more light, for so so I say to say it. Then once I metto to investigate and I saw a video of her
Starting point is 00:10:42 where she took a experience very strong with this theme of the brugheria. She knows that in a
Starting point is 00:10:51 time when she went to many of those followers, she knew, they were they're and it's normal
Starting point is 00:10:57 receiving regalos for part of them. Of course that is a mou a carino,
Starting point is 00:11:00 maybe in some moment narrator when you pass the famous moment that you get to your 100,000 subscribers and you quittes the maskara,
Starting point is 00:11:09 will be great. It's great. And you go to go and you go to a state, much people that consume your content for that
Starting point is 00:11:16 affection, for that cario, you're going to give to give us. So, this so, it's so
Starting point is 00:11:22 she did something very normal. She said that with all the things that she was, the practicante
Starting point is 00:11:31 of her religion and she or about her redoubt that's interesting because she said that she wrote he said
Starting point is 00:11:41 that when the the giftos those were all they were where they were she's they were she started
Starting point is 00:11:47 she started something something something something she went that she not is of the persons
Starting point is 00:11:55 that suffer the paralysis of the soo it's very normal that She, I think,
Starting point is 00:12:01 uniquely, he had passed very few times in all his life. And that night that she
Starting point is 00:12:06 had had all the things, she was to have a paralysis of the and not
Starting point is 00:12:12 only not only accompanied, she said, she was she was a, a
Starting point is 00:12:19 normal because not only she, but also he was a person,
Starting point is 00:12:23 he was a person, and she started much activity paranormal,
Starting point is 00:12:29 for to have those regalos but there one in special that had a carg
Starting point is 00:12:36 very very so this is this is to affect to her to her
Starting point is 00:12:41 to his novio and they had to have a lot and have a lot
Starting point is 00:12:47 pesed and then in the situation for for that was
Starting point is 00:12:51 that was that they they they they they're
Starting point is 00:12:55 they they're they they they're they they're And while
Starting point is 00:13:00 they were She narrate that they They're going to They're They're They're There's always
Starting point is 00:13:05 And they're to feel a Vibra very pesable when they started when they started
Starting point is 00:13:11 She said And it's That's a coche He was a woman And the She was
Starting point is 00:13:18 She was She was A little She goes She's A lot It's a It's
Starting point is 00:13:24 I know I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm So she She still year
Starting point is 00:13:28 and he says there's a point where she starts a lot of a
Starting point is 00:13:33 real real but her new his new novi started a lot of it's
Starting point is 00:13:38 like it's like a transference in that in that moment came the most
Starting point is 00:13:42 the most so because her know so his factions of her
Starting point is 00:13:48 and started to start to her and she did a
Starting point is 00:13:54 question that she was she did In that moment, she had known days before since she had had had an interview with a, I'm like, an exorcist, and she's a reprender.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Even she tried to exorcisar-sozsche-law for 15 minutes and he got to tranquillize to his novi. They're going, then, with a, a sacerote exorcist, and liberate a suburb, and to live, and to her, even, a person that she was posited, had a I'm a entity So,
Starting point is 00:14:28 so all this happens because all a few a lot of the where one where one where one
Starting point is 00:14:35 indaga and then and then enterandrances said to the chabba without you saying to
Starting point is 00:14:40 you're going to you're you're getting and a pastiped to to not practice it but this
Starting point is 00:14:49 was something that was something she she said she says that she she says that she says that
Starting point is 00:14:54 that I saw that I would have the content I thought that she had a because the fact of
Starting point is 00:14:58 the fact that it's a or that's something that's something that we're doing a certain thing and
Starting point is 00:15:05 it means that you do you do do you do do you do it. So she commented
Starting point is 00:15:09 that the people thought that she was for that they were that's for some
Starting point is 00:15:13 and certain types of different with certain work. So she she does she far
Starting point is 00:15:19 the other is that also that also that that's that someone that is what
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'm also But it was one of the experiences, well, I'm a creator of content that's the time that sometimes we're also talking.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Of course, the experience, in some moment I got to talk to and she mentioned that after that did some lado the things
Starting point is 00:15:43 paranormal. I don't know if he's done, but it's too many it was two years. Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Without. to talk these things to do this. And, and, And, fiatte that
Starting point is 00:15:53 a sometimes is because you addentras to get into the theme, but a in relation to palomayombe.
Starting point is 00:16:02 The palomyeombe is a religion that is a country and that when the conquest they came, they were
Starting point is 00:16:11 with the exclavos Africanos all their and some of them had the thing
Starting point is 00:16:16 in this palo mayombe that has another number that no no I don't know
Starting point is 00:16:19 no But an A friend that was in Panama that's actually here he was in the episode that
Starting point is 00:16:26 he's called Asecho nocturno he commented that in Panama many people practicable
Starting point is 00:16:31 santaia Paloma Yoruba and all that was and it was like one of the religions that more
Starting point is 00:16:39 proliferable that that was that was that was he was he was looking
Starting point is 00:16:45 an apartment where where he and some them they offer in the of them
Starting point is 00:16:49 They're a very good cost and he is going to that they're practicing of the palom
Starting point is 00:16:54 yombe for him not important because he has a Christian Christiana, I don't
Starting point is 00:17:02 remember if is Catholic Christian but he has a person and he he didn't
Starting point is 00:17:07 see a problem that he no, I don't say that in si a
Starting point is 00:17:12 problem but what he was he kept in this house has
Starting point is 00:17:17 been has passed yeah various years he's a comodoo,
Starting point is 00:17:19 it's a good cost, it's a good place, and then a night, that no there's a
Starting point is 00:17:25 person, that's going to hear of the room, a little, a little, like if
Starting point is 00:17:34 someone had a tallyer, and he was perforand some type of a thing, so
Starting point is 00:17:38 then he's he's he's been his time in some activity, and after he does
Starting point is 00:17:44 know that he's done a couple of hours and see the sound out of out of the
Starting point is 00:17:48 S. It's a very extrano and says, oh, that's with the
Starting point is 00:17:54 way, that at this hour of the night are the time. So, he
Starting point is 00:17:59 was thinking in dorms. When he's the sound,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and he gets more more more and it's the
Starting point is 00:18:07 so. Then then you just he's he's he's he
Starting point is 00:18:12 a door and he's to get to the thing, like to give us
Starting point is 00:18:17 the way he back the volume, no, I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:18:19 So when it's the quarter, it's a sound that the sound, it's a,
Starting point is 00:18:24 it's a, a, a, a, a, a, a, and the
Starting point is 00:18:29 thing, was a moment, it was a thing, with the door a
Starting point is 00:18:34 soundable, but with the door over, then it was that it
Starting point is 00:18:38 was like, someone, that's someone, so, I'm so I preoccupied.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Comience to to come in the house and when I'm like if in the center of the cell there's like
Starting point is 00:18:49 someone to beheating but a gritts. It's yeah it was a strong that you
Starting point is 00:18:55 not me could get to the head to say, and I never I felt
Starting point is 00:18:58 that much I'm getting to the court and I got the door
Starting point is 00:19:03 and now the subbed he was he's so he's
Starting point is 00:19:07 so many hours passed until that of that's the time. The kids
Starting point is 00:19:13 get on like two, three days after. And then he's very very assuptado and he's
Starting point is 00:19:20 and he says, oh, I'm going to this, and they're and they say, you're going to
Starting point is 00:19:25 a saint. So he said, no could get me there. After that
Starting point is 00:19:32 I'm had to get to get to so. There are situations in
Starting point is 00:19:36 that you don't you're not you're you're just doing you're doing that
Starting point is 00:19:51 basically you're basically being a basically being a ram of what that's a lot of what is a lot of in the conquest and has to count that basically
Starting point is 00:20:01 every country was that was adapting to his customs and there nashboudoo Yoruba, Palmajom so some much the practices that's
Starting point is 00:20:09 that's one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the one of the fact is cataloged
Starting point is 00:20:17 like a religion that's that's used for many people for protection and to have even to have
Starting point is 00:20:27 artists for here I'm there's I'm notated for example Newarka talking of Newarka
Starting point is 00:20:31 New York even even even even even also also is that's maybe
Starting point is 00:20:36 Ricky Martin is and And, maybe, Abirtamint, but many people are sure
Starting point is 00:20:42 that she, because in her song of the Guacuaka, you know, those years, I think it was the 2010.
Starting point is 00:20:49 Yes, yeah, this, desponted much, in that song, she mentioned, she mentions
Starting point is 00:20:53 these deities in their song. So, all this is, so, so,
Starting point is 00:20:57 it's, so it's, and so many people do they much with, with the thing of
Starting point is 00:21:04 the cult of the murder, really are two things In Mexico is where the cult of the
Starting point is 00:21:10 and the santares is very different They're not They're not They're not They're not They're not They're not
Starting point is 00:21:17 They're They're They're like They're They're They're And they're And it's
Starting point is 00:21:24 Like a style of They're They're gonna It's It's protection It's abundance It's
Starting point is 00:21:31 Rundance The I think The Huyah I think It's When it's When it's
Starting point is 00:21:34 It's When the Yorua, fiatte, is that dependes much of them, they call them like a to a patron. And the fact, if here, I think, he's interested,
Starting point is 00:21:45 they need to have money, because every padrino manage different, well, basically different, prices that are from the
Starting point is 00:21:53 800, to the $2,000, $2,000. And in that process of initiation, fiat, here,
Starting point is 00:22:00 there is something I'm because you know, that you do you you start, the I
Starting point is 00:22:06 So, so the people when you're when you're doing, uh, they're in
Starting point is 00:22:10 an initiation that many, many people or many people, or much people,
Starting point is 00:22:36 This will depend much I'll say the other but I'm doing it some days in a podcast
Starting point is 00:22:43 a woman that was saying that she was going to be going to she was interested there was
Starting point is 00:22:48 there was a there there was a she had to get to get to but there but there
Starting point is 00:22:53 there's a point of her more macabro because they're to manage or to
Starting point is 00:23:00 make sacrifices of animals of the gillinas of negras and do
Starting point is 00:23:05 something more more more and she decided not continue to
Starting point is 00:23:09 you know, this depends of how they're on the but there things that
Starting point is 00:23:16 are very macabras that's in those three days of initiation that's
Starting point is 00:23:19 where many that many and and supposedly after the
Starting point is 00:23:24 seven years that you you get in all you you're
Starting point is 00:23:27 you you see a change in the but many
Starting point is 00:23:31 people they abandon the barco because in those
Starting point is 00:23:34 three days of initiation basically there's many things some of the
Starting point is 00:23:39 things very macabras so this will depend much of the people who are the people and obviously this is
Starting point is 00:23:46 pretty much for the charlataner and yeah that are basically not not are what are they're
Starting point is 00:23:53 but they're they're they're they're so the thing of the Yoruba basically
Starting point is 00:23:59 basically means being being being more protection a style of life and defense against
Starting point is 00:24:04 against want to attack but fichate that as I'm when I Budu
Starting point is 00:24:10 wow I mean is another other thing is that I'm you know
Starting point is 00:24:16 I'm so you're Yoruba Palomay Jambh are some are like
Starting point is 00:24:20 the adaptations of the people in Latin America Bood is
Starting point is 00:24:26 directly in Africa Haiti Nigeria which basically is like
Starting point is 00:24:33 I don't I don't know if the mother but it's where most it's where this
Starting point is 00:24:40 all this so, so, that's not quite nato no, no,
Starting point is 00:24:43 it's not made with the the other arts, and no manches,
Starting point is 00:24:49 is, is something it's a thing, the thing of Boudou and I
Starting point is 00:24:54 talk to you, I'll talk, the thing of the issue
Starting point is 00:24:58 of a woman that was a a mucu a be a vanganza.
Starting point is 00:25:05 They're so, they're very things are very so you're things that's talking about
Starting point is 00:25:10 about the Yurova I'm in I'm in I'm in you know that I'm a chica
Starting point is 00:25:18 that's initiating in a santaia and with her and then talking with you know
Starting point is 00:25:24 well if so I'm curious I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:25:27 I'm I'm I'm I'm not they're not the question
Starting point is 00:25:33 not they had to respond to at the final it's a good
Starting point is 00:25:36 dialogue and there were many questions that I'm going to you're to be
Starting point is 00:25:40 to be something and it was a interesting. The first is the
Starting point is 00:25:45 Yoruba and the santaia practically is the same is the same
Starting point is 00:25:51 if there is a change the difference is that the Yoruba we're
Starting point is 00:25:55 the version not not Latino American is the
Starting point is 00:25:58 religion original but when when were those slaves
Starting point is 00:26:02 to Latin America, specifically to Cuba, as you mentioned with a Yoruba, many of them had to have forcedosoment
Starting point is 00:26:11 the religion Catholic, because if they were the people who had imprisoned. So, what was what did those
Starting point is 00:26:18 slaves? Something very similar to what was in Brazil with the Capoeira. They were to be able to
Starting point is 00:26:24 talk to something in something that they wanted to they were in the capoeira
Starting point is 00:26:30 they were doings that were rituals and really were a method of attack and a defense.
Starting point is 00:26:35 In the question of the Yoruba and now in what is the santaia what they were that they were
Starting point is 00:26:43 they were the name and used to the name of the the same the name of a god
Starting point is 00:26:50 and a saint catholic coincidia and they put in the name of the
Starting point is 00:26:53 so. So, they're they're using this technique that is the syncretism
Starting point is 00:26:59 that is like assimilar the things of two creencers to be able to keep their religion
Starting point is 00:27:06 that was with their religion, so the santaia and the yuroba are like, you could say primas and hermannas,
Starting point is 00:27:12 no? And I took an experience with santeros in many years that had made
Starting point is 00:27:18 that I had made, that he had had much a much fear, no respect
Starting point is 00:27:24 to, Mereu to this religion. Here in Montererere Dime me
Starting point is 00:27:28 I want to I want to I want to That's just because you interrup, but I want to mention
Starting point is 00:27:34 something that maybe is something I don't know, I mean, I mean, I'll say, I mean, I'm a lot, you know, I'm going to be able to, this is something that I'm, not something that I'm saying, but no see if you
Starting point is 00:27:46 have heard, that they're, that's the, of the, disfrasar to, the, saint, Catholic, and behind there's a deity
Starting point is 00:27:55 very powerful that, that's that's a , that's that's up in these practices. She was heard. I don't know
Starting point is 00:28:00 if you've heard of, I said I'm a I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying that I'm saying
Starting point is 00:28:05 that I'm and I'm so I'm so I'm heard of that you've heard of that
Starting point is 00:28:12 that's that I'm there that basically is a that basically has been the
Starting point is 00:28:21 little the moon but I've seen and I suppose it's a
Starting point is 00:28:26 idea very very very strong of a woman that clama adoration
Starting point is 00:28:31 and that basically is the behind the Virgin of Guadalupe and even even is a person that's
Starting point is 00:28:38 a certain because has been adored at the long to be but that he's that's
Starting point is 00:28:45 that's I think it's something that I only was I'm just wanted to ask
Starting point is 00:28:50 something I've said before me I'm comment in this
Starting point is 00:28:55 question of the Virgin of Guadalupe the that was, remember you
Starting point is 00:29:00 remember what is the name of this deird? Right, I'm trying to remember it because I'm
Starting point is 00:29:06 not that not that's I'm to know that I'm just you're saying but if there's a
Starting point is 00:29:11 name, if it's a name, no, I'm a realtor but no I don't
Starting point is 00:29:16 remember the name. The doubt is, is that is that there's there's
Starting point is 00:29:20 there. The first is that that I don't see if simply there
Starting point is 00:29:26 a lot of similarities, and then it's not if the artist that retrata, or so the first, the
Starting point is 00:29:33 first, the first painting was on the other deidad to say, I'm, I don't see a factical
Starting point is 00:29:39 because a me made clear that the Virgin of Guadalupe, in the creencia Catholic is
Starting point is 00:29:44 an abocation, so it is a virgin for that the person of a people of a person of a
Starting point is 00:29:50 person of a way different in different. Asi. So, is in the creencia. Dentro of
Starting point is 00:29:58 the version sociopolitica, we'd call it that the technique is very simple. Put deities
Starting point is 00:30:04 that's imaged to be reflected in the deity, and then so it's one with one with
Starting point is 00:30:09 one of what you is oprimed for persons of other color of not you don't
Starting point is 00:30:15 put to the other to the color. Put it on the color of them
Starting point is 00:30:18 and then there's there's a point of connection between you and
Starting point is 00:30:21 you. So, a level sociopolitical, you can understand perfectly the technique, but also there's a question like mystic and
Starting point is 00:30:32 of creencers that's, or more well, I know, I know, I know, I know, if it was a technique sociopolitica, if it was that
Starting point is 00:30:41 there's a creencia of a tracond, in a deidad, and then with this they painted like the virgin, or if
Starting point is 00:30:47 there was some type of situation mystic, and what that's that's or that the
Starting point is 00:30:53 painter is a idea of the other deities. It's the that at the way it's a little
Starting point is 00:31:00 diffus to when it is a internet, no, there's access to the education,
Starting point is 00:31:06 the people not know they're a chino of things. All of a secret to bosses.
Starting point is 00:31:11 How you going to have to a picture to a two continents of distance?
Starting point is 00:31:18 No. I don't know if you where you is where you can't be but
Starting point is 00:31:22 it would have to have been a confabulation to be a back to or really not it's in that form
Starting point is 00:31:28 but let's go ahead back on yeah I'm going to I think to you know we have to
Starting point is 00:31:35 we have to understand that the virgin or Maria at final of the mind of
Starting point is 00:31:40 Jesus was a a woman judy of that of Jerusalem of
Starting point is 00:31:45 this of those countries and for example, they have in their, as they're in their, as they're
Starting point is 00:31:53 like they're in a Jesus, like they're like those people with those countries, exactly,
Starting point is 00:31:59 altos, black, castaions, and it's very curious, for example, that the Virgin,
Starting point is 00:32:07 Maria, that representan here in Mexico, have the rasked of a American,
Starting point is 00:32:12 so, so it's the same in the is that, the thing, I think, it's
Starting point is 00:32:17 very strange, it's very I'm, I mean, I don't consider no doctor in the thing. I don't know
Starting point is 00:32:22 more. Sure. It was a lot of situations very lighters. It was a thing that me especially,
Starting point is 00:32:28 like not was a thing that never was that I'm to get to to investigate. What I see is that in
Starting point is 00:32:34 every culture, the abocation, that's like the image that's the image that's there's a there's with
Starting point is 00:32:42 many with many of many, but it doesn't much to the people of the
Starting point is 00:32:44 people. Chingo. Of it It's very much It's a Vigern, there's a
Starting point is 00:32:49 years, the virgin, the virgin, she was also the people of the area, I don't
Starting point is 00:32:55 remember exactly in where it's, but it was like the person's there. There's a
Starting point is 00:32:59 German and you, you know, you know, is a American, a hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:33:04 There's there's, there's there's a percent Italianas and is where they're
Starting point is 00:33:08 where they're where the Vatican, so it's like, it's like, it's more a
Starting point is 00:33:14 detraseism, a form in the in that the case, in this case, from the creedice Catholic, not they consider a deity, but a person very close to God, couldierreys to say that,
Starting point is 00:33:29 that's present a form of different to have to contact with the persons. So, it's like, but also that this, that this, this divosa,
Starting point is 00:33:38 no see if it's Mitra, but if someone, if someone, if someone, if someone, is the
Starting point is 00:33:43 Dioza, that is exactly the same figure of Maria. And if you know, so if you can put the link
Starting point is 00:33:48 to see that image, it would be great, no? The fact, I'm looking being,
Starting point is 00:33:54 well. But, but well, but, well, so, so it's used to
Starting point is 00:34:04 when they're like, like, questions of colonization, colonialization, that was the form of
Starting point is 00:34:11 a religion or a creency mexlantly with the with the with the so it's it's called
Starting point is 00:34:18 Tonansi Tonanxi That's the That's the idea Here's the idea So you can You can't You can't
Starting point is 00:34:25 You can't But you But supposedly They say It's the Deidad Detas of the Culted
Starting point is 00:34:32 Whatalupan Is what I'm That's Oh, Perfecto And it's A deid
Starting point is 00:34:36 Mexican It's a It's a Mexican Exactly Exactly They get the
Starting point is 00:34:44 Spanish, like to impone his dioces this is this is a they're a
Starting point is 00:34:48 not a to have a problem with what they were in the in terms of your faith.
Starting point is 00:34:55 Uh-huh. So what also, what's what happened what's what's so
Starting point is 00:34:59 yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, so, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:35:04 a level, I mean, to like, I mean, to say, so, so,
Starting point is 00:35:10 if it's, so, so, so, if it's, it's, a colonize
Starting point is 00:35:11 to colonize to do what are their and customs and to do you do this
Starting point is 00:35:15 so I'm that they're like things very similar and you those and you're in the
Starting point is 00:35:22 gancho. Terminant confundient there. There are many, there's many characteristics
Starting point is 00:35:27 in this this tendency. The point just is that for the people that
Starting point is 00:35:34 not the technique not is exclusive of a cult is of all. In
Starting point is 00:35:39 the actuality There is a idea very syncretist in torno a tendencies occultists in those that
Starting point is 00:35:47 they're all the cultures and of all the religions and they're they're doing a and they're like they're
Starting point is 00:35:54 like they're like they've been to make sure and then they're going about extraterrestres that's
Starting point is 00:36:03 that has to have to with the Virgin and that has been a leg of central
Starting point is 00:36:08 Bastink yeah yeah because here much the theory of the book of No I'm also
Starting point is 00:36:13 I'm also I'm also that's a thing yeah in the channel that's that's
Starting point is 00:36:16 like the time of those extraterrestresres. They're so, are theories really, but let me tell me I'm
Starting point is 00:36:22 to read it and not so he's too so much very far the talk of the
Starting point is 00:36:29 thing of we're talking but the fact is that is that is a lot of
Starting point is 00:36:34 seriously because after to come because these people they're
Starting point is 00:36:38 these they're not they're not are they sects?
Starting point is 00:36:41 Sects? Exactly, the sects. I mean, like those are they're in all these. Because they're in their minds,
Starting point is 00:36:48 they're making their own their own their own their own their own and much of these doctrines
Starting point is 00:36:56 the fact yeah, exactly related with the thing that we're doing I've I've been
Starting point is 00:37:01 some I've done that's that's there's that's the Joseph Eduardo
Starting point is 00:37:08 Dervis and no I don't remember he's you call this person, justly an santero
Starting point is 00:37:13 to a santero a manned a cistero Cuban and a manneder and he's chasando the and the
Starting point is 00:37:20 santao cubano know a about the thing, of the thing social, the
Starting point is 00:37:26 thing religious he knows of many religions, and he has various plantamions very
Starting point is 00:37:30 interesting. He he's about about just how is the sync
Starting point is 00:37:35 and he's about how they used the syncretism to to show
Starting point is 00:37:41 their religion of a form in the way in the not they're they're not in the people who
Starting point is 00:37:46 they're in so it's very interesting because he he's he's a voice like the
Starting point is 00:37:53 people who took to use that's so so so who can't
Starting point is 00:37:58 let's the interview the the so the he's
Starting point is 00:38:03 put he's put he he's and let's to appear. And in that
Starting point is 00:38:08 platic that he's taking, he's a lot of things about the santaia. And it's a little interesting. I mean, there are questions in the santaia that are, for me, me, me quittering the
Starting point is 00:38:22 because I said, I've had a experience with santaia a few years in the in Monterey, he went, a, how can't a festival that was the festival esoteric, if I don't know I don't know,
Starting point is 00:38:38 or convention esoteric. So, this was 20 years. Apparece in the cartelones that will come and I said, oh, well, let's see what,
Starting point is 00:38:47 to see, what, what is there, to be interesting or, or what, with what I top,
Starting point is 00:38:55 no? So when I'm, really, I top with things that in that in that time
Starting point is 00:39:00 me caused more risa than interest. So, persons bestied of monsters.
Starting point is 00:39:06 It was like if you had been a festival of the horror with with creencies so.
Starting point is 00:39:11 So, it was very rare. I mean, I think that right is very different,
Starting point is 00:39:16 but in that moment was very or maybe it was a show because
Starting point is 00:39:20 it was in the time. I took up with a person that
Starting point is 00:39:23 I'm got to and I know and it so I'm so you
Starting point is 00:39:29 don't much credibility or another person and you'd and then it
Starting point is 00:39:34 was a role that they'd do you end different, but at the time they were in
Starting point is 00:39:39 so they're in a lot of you know so for me in that moment I was was attacked in a risa
Starting point is 00:39:44 because never had been so so different and so that I so much I'm
Starting point is 00:39:51 not a sound of a burla me caused much a great because of everybody
Starting point is 00:39:55 Freddie Krue was talking with the Elfo and Jason
Starting point is 00:39:58 in a one in a one one person, all
Starting point is 00:40:01 vestida and there was my encounter with my own my own I'm sure. I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:40:07 A minute me said, oh yeah, backal, because they're to think you you're going to this is this
Starting point is 00:40:13 this is a badrissim. I mean, when, I'm going to be to be a crossover of many
Starting point is 00:40:18 universes, so. So, I was impacted for that I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:40:23 I'm I'm I'm back to I'm and I'm to see
Starting point is 00:40:28 a and with a very severe just a one more my face it's the first time
Starting point is 00:40:35 in the life that's the never I'm like the same I'm then I'm this person because I'm
Starting point is 00:40:42 seeing this and that that's it's a great of energy very rare very
Starting point is 00:40:48 very rar I'm I'm put to do and I go back and I'm
Starting point is 00:40:53 going going to a little that in that time we we used
Starting point is 00:40:56 that there was that there I mean, we know, we know, not here something like that's a lot of something, or something, very, of something, very exotic.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Then I said, oh, yeah, no, there's here a lot of santaia, for what is? And me, they said, yeah, in tal post. I'm going to the place. I go and it was a very imponent. Like a type of carpa, with quadros and figures, and he had, like,
Starting point is 00:41:24 some types of harroncitos and vellas, and so it was like very chamois. manic, very esoteric, but very mystic. I mean, no, no, it was a armado to generate
Starting point is 00:41:35 an impact. It was armed like, so that's, no? And, of when I was back,
Starting point is 00:41:41 he's one of the carpas, and it's a chaba and he's a little bit of the same thing
Starting point is 00:41:49 to the piece. Me, I did a chorro of a year, and I'm with my
Starting point is 00:41:53 I'm just, I'm just the hand the sun-de- pass, he was a
Starting point is 00:41:57 I got a of a fear of and I'm and I'm doing. After that I'm
Starting point is 00:42:01 away from the way, he's got to do the and he's these guys these quats are like,
Starting point is 00:42:06 these quats are like, not, no, no, I know if a level of a power
Starting point is 00:42:11 mystic in this time was what I think I'm a level mystic but
Starting point is 00:42:15 minimum at a minimum of impon there's there's there's there
Starting point is 00:42:21 is a not so so it's so Supposedly, one person is interviewing to a, a satanist,
Starting point is 00:42:34 who was a man. Okay. He's a man. And he's a and he says, and the senior and the senior he says,
Starting point is 00:42:42 he says to say, maybe he came to this video, he starts, you know, that all this is true, you know what
Starting point is 00:42:47 put in my book is certain, and he says, and I can say, and I can know that you
Starting point is 00:42:51 feel you feel like you you're you're so much fear. And the the
Starting point is 00:42:55 intervistator he's going to be able to be, that's basically burlarned but the other cabron, I mean,
Starting point is 00:43:02 imponying with his car like, vire, saying, you're, you're just you're
Starting point is 00:43:06 being a mind. And I know what part of the conversation he says something that
Starting point is 00:43:12 he's to start a lot, and automatically he's to start to start to see,
Starting point is 00:43:18 I don't see this video. It's a is a movie? It's a movie? Is a
Starting point is 00:43:23 a movie? Yes, that's that's all in black and black? No, no. If you see
Starting point is 00:43:28 Yeah, yeah, they're in colors? Yeah. Oh, they're Argentinians? Are you? I think so.
Starting point is 00:43:36 I think so. I think but I see, but I see, but I can be a effect Mandela or it can be the
Starting point is 00:43:41 different? But, but it's to startre the nose and there's the time? There's,
Starting point is 00:43:48 that's, but, many people, in the, I mean, I'm much to learn
Starting point is 00:43:53 the comments because it's where's where so the reality or veracity at a lot of
Starting point is 00:43:57 the things and there are people who do they're really in the comments I'm in, I really do
Starting point is 00:44:04 do you actually cause a mal or a official to someone in pro of what you want to do and here
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm for a example I read Boudoo uh another wait right we're
Starting point is 00:44:16 we're we're we're because I want to tell to let's let's
Starting point is 00:44:21 something there's where there's where he's where it's where it's where it's Yeah, it's like the
Starting point is 00:44:27 Like the entry to Boudou and Palomayombe. Look, I'm going, first I'm this experience with the 20 years I'm afraid of the
Starting point is 00:44:38 so I'm so we're going to to be you to this time I was chavreadish he was. I'm sorry, this is
Starting point is 00:44:46 this is to front me to something to do a little years. And I said, and I said, to the frigate
Starting point is 00:44:54 occur this opportunity to have an acercation with people that that are there that's that I'm I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:45:00 when they're when they're to explain to start to get many and they're and they're so it's a
Starting point is 00:45:09 really a religion some creencies and there there's much like of creencies in torno to you
Starting point is 00:45:16 that makes that you make a but then then I'm to understand that are rituals
Starting point is 00:45:21 traditions etc etc but when when In the interviewist, there, the interviewer who is with this, Jose Eduardo Erbiz, the santaero cubano,
Starting point is 00:45:32 he gave a touch because mentioned something about the final. They're talking, they're, they're, they're with the santo. They have a lot with the people,
Starting point is 00:45:42 and as well, it's more in relation to protection, prosperity, of equilibrium. It's a kind of a religion that
Starting point is 00:45:49 is a naturalness, with the respect, with the world. A style of a better. Yeah, it's a style of
Starting point is 00:45:54 That's a That's a That's a That's a They've They're much They know They're not
Starting point is 00:45:59 They're But it's A question Very strong That's He says He says, that depends
Starting point is 00:46:07 much of the criteria of the That's What is good for you is good for
Starting point is 00:46:13 me And they They're They're They're They're And certain Crencies
Starting point is 00:46:16 And It's Well, if a person When a person that he does not do you
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm saying, I'm saying, if the deities, if the deities, if the orisha me says that no, I say, I know, I mean, we don't, no, we don't, no,
Starting point is 00:46:32 we don't do we have to do. He says, but if he insists and apart he's to pay the price, he's going to him and not my.
Starting point is 00:46:40 And so, and then I see a point of this, so, has a, so, has been a point in that they,
Starting point is 00:46:46 they're, they can do a way in the way in the the damage, we're correlations to...
Starting point is 00:46:54 He mentioned a situation in the he said he said he he said, you're going to have to pay
Starting point is 00:47:00 a price. If you're not only monetary, monetary is altissimo, but apart of the
Starting point is 00:47:04 monetary, there's there's there's because the I don't know I'm going to do you know
Starting point is 00:47:12 I don't do you do it, you don't the thing, not the other person, and the other person, and he does a
Starting point is 00:47:21 The other says, well, I you just said that you said that you're going to do. And I just said that there's a price. After that, if they're to do you
Starting point is 00:47:29 do that other person, if it's what they're looking, but falle is a child of the that's doing the payo and
Starting point is 00:47:36 all that. So, so stattissimo, and he he says, like, oh, why occurred
Starting point is 00:47:43 all this? Because I said, because I said that was the price, and that was the price that was
Starting point is 00:47:48 the price that It's a situation that you say, oh, no, it's more like the alchemia of the alchemia of the equilibrium,
Starting point is 00:47:59 crud, pure and dural, no? No, not is something so there are that when cruises a certain
Starting point is 00:48:06 line, well, so if they get in, in chock with the life and with the
Starting point is 00:48:09 world, it's being being being being being like the philosophy of the arts martiales,
Starting point is 00:48:13 so use it's for, for, not to not to end of the
Starting point is 00:48:17 count, it's a final you can't you know, it's, like you know,
Starting point is 00:48:20 you know, you know, but not it's the thing, you know, it's being,
Starting point is 00:48:25 it's being, it's being, being, being, it's the same, but, here,
Starting point is 00:48:29 here I'm here, but, but, let me tell you, I'm going to tell,
Starting point is 00:48:36 before that, the context is that I'm I, I'm, I, I'm,
Starting point is 00:48:40 we're, yeah, and then , and, I'm, I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:48:43 a little, and basically it's a religion also, like you that's that's
Starting point is 00:48:48 based in quite a custom in a creencers but
Starting point is 00:48:53 like the the budu is nat of Africa or a only place of
Starting point is 00:48:59 Nigeria of all those places of these parts of the country
Starting point is 00:49:02 not is a variant is nat of a one one
Starting point is 00:49:06 and is very very very very very very
Starting point is 00:49:11 very this art is a much, much, more than for
Starting point is 00:49:17 protection it's being being being being being to attack, so, to attack and to be able
Starting point is 00:49:23 with someone. So, it's a practice of magic a negra basically, very,
Starting point is 00:49:28 very much, fortisima. Here, for example, no see you've seen, in the videos of
Starting point is 00:49:36 TikTok, of Facebook, that there some, how I can describe, like, a lot of
Starting point is 00:49:44 of paja that's while one's when one's that's not going to know if
Starting point is 00:49:49 you're looking you know yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and here
Starting point is 00:49:53 like to the followers to facilitate some an image or a video, or a
Starting point is 00:49:57 little, that basically, so, this is a ritual. The voodoo is a practice
Starting point is 00:50:05 animist because it's it's to transfer almas objects and
Starting point is 00:50:09 teist because it's with with the Yoruba. And they They're
Starting point is 00:50:14 that exists a entity that Rige the universe supernatural. It's like a god
Starting point is 00:50:22 but they're but they're directly not can talk with him or can't give her
Starting point is 00:50:29 a petition the way of the way of it is mediante other entities
Starting point is 00:50:36 more small that are as intermediaries that to they're doing practices
Starting point is 00:50:43 of sacrifices of sacrifices rituals, rituals, and dances. So, what you are you
Starting point is 00:50:48 are doing, this thing this is moving, that's, like a , like a lot of
Starting point is 00:50:55 a lot of a lot of a lot of, is because the people that's practicing is doing
Starting point is 00:51:01 an invocation to the entities intermediaries for that this entity, this entity, this entity,
Starting point is 00:51:08 that is going directly with the entity major, and they can they're
Starting point is 00:51:12 some type of malifixio some type of a problem but commonly are like to attack and
Starting point is 00:51:20 to cover with some type of people enemy and it's something so I think the Boudou is a
Starting point is 00:51:26 buddh because it's a practice a practice a 100 obscure so we we're about
Starting point is 00:51:31 so we're about so about okay with you're you're
Starting point is 00:51:35 a malvada yeah so very macabra because congiv sacrifices
Starting point is 00:51:41 human, sacrifice animals, sacrifice, are, some, are some, some,
Starting point is 00:51:48 some, some, some, some, we know, so, we know, we're,
Starting point is 00:51:51 we're, in, things, cochinas, because then, I mean, those
Starting point is 00:51:57 that, they're, like, seen, or, I've been a little of this,
Starting point is 00:52:03 you, you know, so, well, so, so, well, I,
Starting point is 00:52:06 Well, I when we We're going to about this in a story in Instagram I asked some stories of the
Starting point is 00:52:13 and a seguerer me and a second. She said that during his infancy
Starting point is 00:52:21 his his father and his mom she's a person to a fatherastro
Starting point is 00:52:29 while his mom was a fatherastro her maltratable her maltratable her reaganiava,
Starting point is 00:52:36 and unfortunately, to the few years, her mom also she she'd care of
Starting point is 00:52:43 her fatherastro that basically she was basically he was a infirno in life. She,
Starting point is 00:52:49 she had she had a much violence and she was getting to the
Starting point is 00:52:55 age of the 14 years and she she said that her fatherst
Starting point is 00:53:00 she had of desire he started to golepeer but like he he wanted but other
Starting point is 00:53:11 things no he got a point of the night where this person
Starting point is 00:53:17 starts to go to agreder physically and well I don't
Starting point is 00:53:25 know how mention it for that not to have problems with with the
Starting point is 00:53:28 red but it basically to affect your intimacy
Starting point is 00:53:33 let let's let's let's let's Okay. This is exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:38 This is going to do you know and she can't say it. She can't express it. He's not a lot of
Starting point is 00:53:43 a lot of a house of a friend that she had practiced that her had practiced that her
Starting point is 00:53:52 her family was a room she had a a little a book. Here is the curious narrator.
Starting point is 00:54:02 One person me said that when you It gets normally, or the typical is that a book of magic, it gets to your hands by the other person. So, no it's like that someone, it's like,
Starting point is 00:54:12 it's going to be, and it's and this child. And this child, he'll take and, as a art of magic, at open it, encounter a part where it says, how to cover with your enemy. Ah, okay. At the moment, then, then
Starting point is 00:54:27 she, he'll met a mochilla, and she'll get to his her She She's A lot And it's How you
Starting point is 00:54:36 A Perned to be a Muno About the Mucke's Boodoo She has to fabric
Starting point is 00:54:42 one occupant Cabeio of his padastro Tela of a capice of
Starting point is 00:54:47 his all of all of the energy of him She does
Starting point is 00:54:51 like a little he the mule with with the
Starting point is 00:54:55 form that his father not he did he
Starting point is 00:54:58 had the the hour in that he was
Starting point is 00:55:01 to go to grab her to get her physically so a day when he was ready
Starting point is 00:55:07 there's there's there's some minutes for that he had she
Starting point is 00:55:12 she had to enter her a guhous to let a loco a loco in the part of
Starting point is 00:55:17 the stomach and he and he and he he starts to the few moments he begins
Starting point is 00:55:23 to be to be to a bit to get to be to make to
Starting point is 00:55:27 feel to feel to do this all the days, all the days, all the days, but
Starting point is 00:55:34 to him also he also he's like, a little extrano, because, like, like a
Starting point is 00:55:37 person, well, to do the doctor, no, they'll do it, but a
Starting point is 00:55:43 time, he'll do the form of and he had a other hour, where she had a
Starting point is 00:55:49 object, he was so much to this much to this person, that was that,
Starting point is 00:55:56 she said she said that he took a little, he was he made around
Starting point is 00:56:01 of his coel, he was and with a tigera and he and he was a
Starting point is 00:56:08 something that I know, that I said, that I said, that that's that same
Starting point is 00:56:14 day when his padastro when his fatherastro was a car supertisim
Starting point is 00:56:20 automobilistic with other vehicles he he's disbarred of his
Starting point is 00:56:26 vehicle and he he gets he decapita he's decapita he he's decapita portisim
Starting point is 00:56:34 when I when I was I was I reading like at at the one of
Starting point is 00:56:40 the morning I don't I'm to learn because I'm to feel
Starting point is 00:56:45 a little I'm I'm seeing I'm I'm I started
Starting point is 00:56:49 and I'm so because not a fact fictitious. She
Starting point is 00:56:56 me described in a message large-ism, and me said, this was what what happened. I'd say to that I'm sorry, but the reality is that I'm
Starting point is 00:57:05 really, this person me made a lot of I was simply like me. I'd have made, and I'd have said, and I'm She has me and I'll share
Starting point is 00:57:25 to all you know, I'm that you know that's the story that's
Starting point is 00:57:31 the story that's a situation of a kind of that time that
Starting point is 00:57:38 that's that a person and that that is a great
Starting point is 00:57:43 yeah the the message is long it's super
Starting point is 00:57:49 long right I'm trying to to record all because I wanted to talk
Starting point is 00:57:52 like a very detail but I'm sure that there are certain things that so I'm passed.
Starting point is 00:57:57 But the essence is that. Yeah, yeah, Duda. How you you felt
Starting point is 00:58:04 you, you know, what you did you to get to contact with this person and the
Starting point is 00:58:10 story that you were that I said, I said, the moment in the when I was
Starting point is 00:58:15 I was going to the moment very incoo and feo.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Sentie an oppression and I'm a shudder. Of course, I'm going to start of that the
Starting point is 00:58:26 climate a little of the temperature but I know, I don't see, something a bad
Starting point is 00:58:32 a bad a boca you know, is that you know, when you're saying, when you're
Starting point is 00:58:38 going to it's a real, I know, it's a change a thing, there was a story
Starting point is 00:58:47 that there was a me told a chica in the United.
Starting point is 00:58:54 In this story, she did a after a couple of years in
Starting point is 00:58:59 her that's that his husband did doels and they
Starting point is 00:59:04 did in secret there was like figure little the house
Starting point is 00:59:09 but she not, like not, they they had made
Starting point is 00:59:13 macabras but it was all no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:59:16 he did so But passing the time So, he does know that the Quartet does those
Starting point is 00:59:20 rituals and he's offering to the family for something. So when she's entera of
Starting point is 00:59:27 this rollo, she wants to get to get to get to the relationship.
Starting point is 00:59:32 And they start to get things in the house. The most was in
Starting point is 00:59:39 two occasions. This story, I've got to the Angel's Caidos
Starting point is 00:59:45 I recommend that you'll see the episode. It's the episode more more
Starting point is 00:59:48 more more that I'm in the one a child a child a
Starting point is 00:59:52 big of a day of and very we're to start Angels
Starting point is 00:59:57 Ceydos two in those that is other person but with situations like
Starting point is 01:00:03 in stances and you know where what you know what the thing to
Starting point is 01:00:07 the United of this history those two situations that two situations
Starting point is 01:00:12 that in his abitation he he he he's
Starting point is 01:00:17 he he when he when he he comes to hear the the
Starting point is 01:00:25 song of the the ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta ta
Starting point is 01:00:29 ta ta yeah and it is sound that he's he does rather
Starting point is 01:00:34 because for the zone in that he's very very extrano
Starting point is 01:00:37 that that someone was that so so like,
Starting point is 01:00:42 so, like, they're distraget in other things, but she feel intranquilla, it's
Starting point is 01:00:46 really to hear the music another way. Tat, ta, ta, ta,
Starting point is 01:00:49 ta, ta. So, now, so he presta attention and a
Starting point is 01:00:53 thing, and it's a lot. The music not out of the room,
Starting point is 01:00:57 it's wow, it's very rare. Commian, it's a start to be a
Starting point is 01:01:03 part of there he does a know that's so he starts attention
Starting point is 01:01:07 from from the sound from and he he's he's he's that he
Starting point is 01:01:14 a little that's so he's he's to come to come in and it and he's
Starting point is 01:01:21 a moment of the real of a million and when the end of the music changes
Starting point is 01:01:29 the place and the door the door is the door
Starting point is 01:01:33 So, she is paniqueadishy. She's like, trying to enter in some type of oration, he wants to get to get to
Starting point is 01:01:42 the door. And in that's the door and she's like a voice very carasposa
Starting point is 01:01:47 that says she's me. And she go to the house, she is able
Starting point is 01:01:53 the door of the entry and she let's try and he's out of
Starting point is 01:01:58 the few days has a little in those she is in the
Starting point is 01:02:03 but she is there is from the door and be like the front of the
Starting point is 01:02:08 room in the corner where is the the the see where there's
Starting point is 01:02:13 a type of an kind of a very malignant that is being
Starting point is 01:02:18 with her eyes and where she see to be the
Starting point is 01:02:20 camera she she she she she the she
Starting point is 01:02:24 when she she she she she she is a spectator of what
Starting point is 01:02:30 occurred. And then when when she is parrata, she sees as the same parading to the camera and
Starting point is 01:02:36 the moment in the moment in that you feel much scalows-frills, is because that entity oscura
Starting point is 01:02:42 is coming on the the techo and it and it's right. Wow. So,
Starting point is 01:02:48 go can walk, and when she gets to the endida of the door, the
Starting point is 01:02:53 one is he gets to the door and the car. There was where was where
Starting point is 01:02:58 when she lived the first situation. So in that moment that she a door in the car,
Starting point is 01:03:05 she gets a and something he says that he says that he has been, but he has been what he passed
Starting point is 01:03:10 to a couple of days after. She still having a lot of situations espantosas in that
Starting point is 01:03:16 house, has much fear, and he says that the worst, the the worst
Starting point is 01:03:20 situation was a day was a front to the and at to be to be front of the
Starting point is 01:03:26 spejo, uh, the, uh, the recient salida of
Starting point is 01:03:28 the time, uh, and he doesn't knowse, he's very, and in that he's not,
Starting point is 01:03:36 that his eyes are totally black and and he and he he's, the way,
Starting point is 01:03:42 where he's the book, and he says, Mattate, Mattate, Mattate, Mattate,
Starting point is 01:03:48 Mattate, Mattate. And he says to he says, he's, he says, what
Starting point is 01:03:55 What are you? This is I not I, what are you? And in that is it, and in this, it's it's a lot of the dark. And he says, you're my. And she goes to the house. No, will be to pisar
Starting point is 01:04:05 that house? They're, they're going to get to do sasserdotes, they're going to do many things and passed almost five
Starting point is 01:04:13 years for that she had to live this type of success. So when me told that relato in
Starting point is 01:04:20 that moment, at the moment of read it and to hear it because me in part in audio
Starting point is 01:04:27 it was a a sensation spantosa or it was like if you were like you're like
Starting point is 01:04:33 to do you and it's so hard that I had to do you have to the story
Starting point is 01:04:43 because it was a day and the thing was a no no no was a so much
Starting point is 01:04:51 pesed and you know, and you know, like if you're stooped aseching, like if there's a
Starting point is 01:05:00 car sandsing. No, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. But with a intention not good.
Starting point is 01:05:07 Yeah. So, so, that day we're going to and when were in those stories
Starting point is 01:05:12 was something like very perturador no. That, that one of my questions for the
Starting point is 01:05:19 question of santaia and that me me was not I'm
Starting point is 01:05:23 the difference between a canalization and a person posseid
Starting point is 01:05:29 because in the creences spiritists that after I know that
Starting point is 01:05:34 I'm there were of the of the Spinacio here in New Leone and
Starting point is 01:05:39 the cajitas and the pachita that one one thing are the
Starting point is 01:05:44 chamanes but other things are the other they
Starting point is 01:05:49 call can canal to that a spirit enter in and then
Starting point is 01:05:52 so it is a communicer to the person around. But in the moment in the spirit
Starting point is 01:05:57 enter, he takes control of the person, and he says, then more to investigate
Starting point is 01:06:03 if this is the fact, or not, so, so, so, so,
Starting point is 01:06:06 so, is how it's the difference with a decision? My creence
Starting point is 01:06:14 to day to day to is that is that maybe has to be with the
Starting point is 01:06:17 type of entity that is entering. And with the control that you can't get
Starting point is 01:06:22 to get a or the level of subordination that you you're going to turn to be able to
Starting point is 01:06:26 know. Of course taking the time the time of Pachita I see to get
Starting point is 01:06:33 that I think he was a emperator the Kautem was the that was the
Starting point is 01:06:39 Kautemok was that was the but I feel a person that came with me
Starting point is 01:06:46 one once at podcast that his parents are pastors and manage
Starting point is 01:06:52 the theme of deliberations he says when you're when you're a final you count the
Starting point is 01:06:59 the ser or the entity possess your mind to the control absolute of all
Starting point is 01:07:05 your extremities to talk to say to move and you you know
Starting point is 01:07:10 you you're when you when you you do you do you you
Starting point is 01:07:17 to that entity, and that is very different, to maybe, to the thing of some demonio that wants to do other things, that is the canalization.
Starting point is 01:07:26 So, it's very different because, like, for example, Pachita, it was, it provocable, me you know,
Starting point is 01:07:32 it was a invocable, to do it, and it was, to create that it was that form. The theme
Starting point is 01:07:39 of the position is when you you perches completely the control of what is doing and what
Starting point is 01:07:44 is happening with your and you I mean to have the auto-destruction of a certain. Exactly. That that was
Starting point is 01:07:51 what he passed to one of my ex-imitators that said that's going to after the final, in extra this
Starting point is 01:07:58 for the material of the exactly when he was posseed. That's. That's. That's. Fouartyate
Starting point is 01:08:06 that I don't know how was your your, your your life.
Starting point is 01:08:09 Or, or better, better. you can't the question. How was your
Starting point is 01:08:14 now so you get this things, you've got to get this times, you know your
Starting point is 01:08:19 minded your fear, you know, you're your way of how has been?
Starting point is 01:08:23 Camiro my form of because, well, me passed what a many people
Starting point is 01:08:28 let us can be that that we like to the satanism no?
Starting point is 01:08:36 So I tried to see them in a form like many people
Starting point is 01:08:40 or practice like a type of art like a practice like,
Starting point is 01:08:45 like a religion more and you know, and it's a form in how to talk to
Starting point is 01:08:52 these things without to generate to this environment or these
Starting point is 01:08:57 sentiments but I don't I'd that all that all that's that's
Starting point is 01:09:03 when you do you know, it's when you know when you can't
Starting point is 01:09:07 be to be other to be to attack. But definitely
Starting point is 01:09:12 exactly but definitely but definitely then, but it's it's a lot of my perception.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Figgate that I'm considered that the, the knowledge is a great thing that
Starting point is 01:09:22 that's a lot of my mind, I mean, because if it was a, you're
Starting point is 01:09:29 you're getting in the water's this, this termat is very dense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:35 But there's there were much questions that went more with a perception
Starting point is 01:09:39 that I had been, and so I changed. And as you, fithet
Starting point is 01:09:43 that you're talking about religions, of the fact, in the interview
Starting point is 01:09:48 that I'm in the this guy in the he's not because he says, we're
Starting point is 01:09:53 we're we're not these reasons. And there the reasons for those if a
Starting point is 01:09:59 a creency comple certain things, it's could consider a religion.
Starting point is 01:10:04 If not they they're a secta, then it's a secta. And he
Starting point is 01:10:08 says, we're the santa we're a a religion. The people the
Starting point is 01:10:12 call it the people, the center of the religion. He is part of the
Starting point is 01:10:16 religion, he is of the religion. They're not a word. Like, reaffirma
Starting point is 01:10:22 that no is a secta. And, well, as far what the what the
Starting point is 01:10:26 little that I'm the if it's the requisite these because
Starting point is 01:10:31 also also Palomayombe is a religion, the Yorub is a religion?
Starting point is 01:10:36 The voodoo is a religion or not a religion? It's a really a also.
Starting point is 01:10:40 It's a religion also. Okay. So, so for the people that we're listening that's
Starting point is 01:10:48 what you've been to be this point. If you're to get to this postify, it's you're going to get to be able to
Starting point is 01:11:06 let's see it. And so much people, we're going to talk about the things that will be those videos puttes about of this figure
Starting point is 01:11:11 of paha that does that's been that's been much videos of that's I'm going to tell you
Starting point is 01:11:16 some of those videos yeah many people like that does a bad bad to look at and you
Starting point is 01:11:20 see what to say to be a bit a first time I mean I mean I'm
Starting point is 01:11:26 doing many I'm I don't I don't idea if you're I'm something
Starting point is 01:11:31 or is something that is false but but my experience the first the first
Starting point is 01:11:34 that I am sincere I'm started I'm really really
Starting point is 01:11:39 of the really me did like a mal-star and I know how
Starting point is 01:11:42 I'm I'm going to think you I'm imagine it you're making you're in vocation
Starting point is 01:11:45 to be a 100% with a other level even though I'm you know
Starting point is 01:11:53 you've seen I'm imagine and the people that people and the
Starting point is 01:11:57 person that's a movie of a car you
Starting point is 01:12:01 see there there there there he has he
Starting point is 01:12:04 has he he has a transference and is the tendido
Starting point is 01:12:09 the and with a hand in the and the other he gets to say words, you know,
Starting point is 01:12:16 I'm met to indigar narrate. Really, really, really, they're saying, yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:24 really, it's saying a conjure of budu, so, of the religion budu, that's
Starting point is 01:12:29 a manage, like a kind of, like, I, I, I, when I,
Starting point is 01:12:33 I, so, when, many people we're doing that's kids, even I've
Starting point is 01:12:39 even I've seen the movies we're like so it's really some orations so really
Starting point is 01:12:45 areations in the thing of the mother's that's that's that's that's
Starting point is 01:12:51 that's that's I'm I'm I'm I'm with I'm
Starting point is 01:12:56 with the other's podcast. That's that me he got to me blew
Starting point is 01:13:01 the I I'm I didn't not I don't see that
Starting point is 01:13:05 legendaries. But Badiah he saw a podcast that called a school secreta or something. And there
Starting point is 01:13:13 I tried a little a bit more a bit more. So I heard what Badiah talked about about the
Starting point is 01:13:19 magic a chaos and I was a cause. When it was talking when it was called
Starting point is 01:13:26 a combination of fear and confusion. Because I did this I did this you
Starting point is 01:13:30 yeah I did it but not it was someone
Starting point is 01:13:34 explaining something about about a where I'm I'm so I'm
Starting point is 01:13:37 so I'm so I'm so I'm so much I'm I'm and I'm say
Starting point is 01:13:44 what you know what I'm going to you're talking about I'm not a good if you're
Starting point is 01:14:00 a book that the scriptural fantastic and in the book, the story that they're talking the person
Starting point is 01:14:05 are all the questions of magic chaos, way. Here they're like it's like it's like a fiction
Starting point is 01:14:12 but really are the, those, are the confurors, are the creences behind of many things of
Starting point is 01:14:17 the magic chaos and and it was, I'm, what way, to introduce, and a lexionar
Starting point is 01:14:22 in an art, so, magic, esoterica, a mode to go. It's,
Starting point is 01:14:27 it was, it was like, so, no, no, so, if he did a purpose
Starting point is 01:14:32 to give to give a or an Easterer or really he is part of those creencies the author
Starting point is 01:14:39 and what he was like a group of people of a group of people of massive. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:14:43 I mean, I think it is inclin more for that that um, so are some,
Starting point is 01:14:48 are things I think they're they're doing they're with intentions. With so,
Starting point is 01:14:54 imagineate how much people no saw the people no view that I'm
Starting point is 01:14:59 see I remember that my mom always me reagania like I'm sorry that I'm at the middle of the media
Starting point is 01:15:05 that's a way to and get him and say all that's because it was really something
Starting point is 01:15:12 something macabro when you when you when you started those words
Starting point is 01:15:16 and you I don't I don't I don't I'm I'm saying you're you're
Starting point is 01:15:21 you're you're doing in Voodoo in actually they're they're they're
Starting point is 01:15:26 the time like the chamanism they're with almas with spirits
Starting point is 01:15:30 I don't see if you You were the person That one of One of the person A man A man, a man A man who had A man who had a man
Starting point is 01:15:38 And that had Almas Atrapas I'm going That you were That was you That was There was Of that
Starting point is 01:15:46 There's the Of course, I'm Of course, I'm in Almas Atrapadas Is the The In the
Starting point is 01:15:53 In the hospital A A Averver That The, of Fagate,
Starting point is 01:16:00 the history says that's antero, but me me sounds like it's of the palo majombio or do you.
Starting point is 01:16:04 It's that's in mind that those who work on the spirit. Well, I'll
Starting point is 01:16:08 tell you. Because I remember if you're not I'm sure. Supposedly the seguer told that
Starting point is 01:16:15 that his tio was a chaman and his he had had yet to live
Starting point is 01:16:20 to his house for a time. She said that her had a quarter and that prohibited
Starting point is 01:16:26 that were there, because he had some artifacts like some little containers of barro like,
Starting point is 01:16:33 this, like, some, some, has a, has a name, even in
Starting point is 01:16:40 various anime s, it's when encapsulan a thing, they're, they're,
Starting point is 01:16:45 they're in, exactly, like, like a type of same, so possibly
Starting point is 01:16:50 the chamanes, they, they're, they're atraped spirits or almas human. So she
Starting point is 01:16:57 says she says she had a madrugada and she she's to take a water. She goes
Starting point is 01:17:05 to the escaleras to pass to the kitchen and she had to be a woman
Starting point is 01:17:10 sentada and she said, oh my mom you got to because the last
Starting point is 01:17:14 she remember to go to do to her she's she's a little
Starting point is 01:17:18 she she she'd be she with that. You get to do to look at the hour
Starting point is 01:17:24 what is he's he went to get to do you know but the mother never to
Starting point is 01:17:30 her she's up to the next her next her his old he said
Starting point is 01:17:35 oh yeah if if you see if you don't you say to what
Starting point is 01:17:42 you're what you do you what you what was that was that a year
Starting point is 01:17:46 a one he's he's looking and he's here
Starting point is 01:17:50 in the car but it me escaped. Resulta way, that what she
Starting point is 01:17:55 saw she was, wow. I don't if you me to tell you the no, no,
Starting point is 01:18:00 for a no, for a but it's I'm my, yeah, but it's,
Starting point is 01:18:06 yeah, because the chamanes at final of the count, they're they're
Starting point is 01:18:09 they're with spirits human with spirits human. With
Starting point is 01:18:14 so they're they're they're they're they they're they're
Starting point is 01:18:18 they're they Macawrissom I don't I don't But fiat That all this Romp
Starting point is 01:18:26 With the With the When one So when you It's going to It's not To see a To say to
Starting point is 01:18:33 To say I'm saying I'm going to Something When I When I'm Innair in This
Starting point is 01:18:39 The cultures Latin American Ascultas The Cultures Of course Are you Are there
Starting point is 01:18:46 Are you Even obscure I'm There's That's I'm You know, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:51 the cultures of the Oriental? The Oriental? Japan. No, they're the they're
Starting point is 01:18:59 those who are the not only only with entities, demonious, spirits human.
Starting point is 01:19:05 So, really, what we we're in, a sometimes in anime,
Starting point is 01:19:09 yamese, for example, where they manage much a cultism that is Naruto,
Starting point is 01:19:13 uh, really are things that have done of the life real.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So, they're they're also, they're Like the chamanes They're like those
Starting point is 01:19:21 Antipules Even the The time of To bring, as a little A man To be a Murt,
Starting point is 01:19:29 between the Murtes is possible But, but not is the soul The person That's the
Starting point is 01:19:37 So, if you're Is it, Paco, you're You're going to That's about Are you
Starting point is 01:19:42 are the Arellas Are you? Al-a, I'm going to Yeah, Because if you're just
Starting point is 01:19:47 I'm doing I accept the Retto. All the video your, if this video that we're
Starting point is 01:19:52 doing a good support, you put it a number. You putle a number. Do you putle a number. Of the likes or the views? No,
Starting point is 01:19:59 that's your audience. You know what is what is what you to get to give to? But if you put the
Starting point is 01:20:05 if we get us to, fissionse, the videos normally have been in between seven to
Starting point is 01:20:14 seven to ten thousand all month and there is going is growing. If we get to my
Starting point is 01:20:20 likes, my likes is probably, very, very, very, very probably. If we
Starting point is 01:20:24 get us to my likes in this video, we get them to get into the time to these
Starting point is 01:20:29 religions orientalers, and we do we do this special with Paco Ares of podcast
Starting point is 01:20:34 extra normal. What is Paco? You know, I'm like, it's something that's a lot of
Starting point is 01:20:42 the pen to put to the point, but I accept the reto
Starting point is 01:20:45 Oh, yeah. Yeah, what's What kind of? What's the form of Yeah, because I'm a lot I'm a lot respect to slash
Starting point is 01:20:53 a little of temor also those religions oriental the Taoism, the Shintoism and well, there are many
Starting point is 01:20:59 more, for no some of more, so so I'm sorry, so I'm also I'm know that in those endow
Starting point is 01:21:08 and others totally with an ideal lexionator no? There's a first of the theme
Starting point is 01:21:13 narrator? I've seen Naruto I mean I did know, the there's the there's the
Starting point is 01:21:19 practice of when invoked a parca. Oh, for sure. The shingamis. Exactly. The shimigami
Starting point is 01:21:26 which are the gods of the death, that the practice when you bring to someone to get to
Starting point is 01:21:31 the people and you and basically you know, of their power. So it's a practice
Starting point is 01:21:37 very realist that manage certain cultures of Japan, of China. It's
Starting point is 01:21:43 something very man. Of the actually, there are videos that's filtered
Starting point is 01:21:47 in internet but I don't see, I mean, they're there's there's
Starting point is 01:21:52 some video that is up because YouTube has in their algorithm that a
Starting point is 01:21:57 video that is infringing can be on the air for a minute so.
Starting point is 01:22:02 So, there is there is a hack, that they can be in TikTok
Starting point is 01:22:06 to to be to be but but I don't not is very
Starting point is 01:22:10 recommendable to do it If they're there's There are forms There are forms There are
Starting point is 01:22:15 There are They're always They're very They're very Maccabular I'm very macabrous I'm in I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:22:20 They're They're Maccabro Yeah when I When I I'm They're
Starting point is 01:22:26 They're They're They're They're They're They're They're They're
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah So, So, So, without Cair in ultra Detaches
Starting point is 01:22:35 What is what What's What's In those We We're We're
Starting point is 01:22:40 the other people human, basically, that they they're from the attaute. Okay.
Starting point is 01:22:46 So, it's very explicit. So, really, it's really really strong. And the
Starting point is 01:22:52 thing to the video is that that's the body is to move. Okay, the
Starting point is 01:22:56 body's to start. Or you're talking of zombies, of so, or no?
Starting point is 01:23:01 Yeah, so, something, something similar. Okay. There have some
Starting point is 01:23:06 that's been that, I don't know if they're real or they're fake, but those
Starting point is 01:23:12 I got to have a way way of these videos when they're when they're when they're they're doing
Starting point is 01:23:18 a time and they and they're them. So, I mean me took to be one
Starting point is 01:23:24 just, and I do you know, I mean, I know, no, no, no,
Starting point is 01:23:30 it's still, it's, it's interesting, but no, no, I recommend that they're not the
Starting point is 01:23:35 no, I'm I'll just be able to look If I'm going to look at If someone will get to Look at look at And I'm I'm going to
Starting point is 01:23:43 But I don't know I'm going to I prefer my Paz mental And I think That's if is going to be something very
Starting point is 01:23:49 Very good Yes, So, very dear Dear Family Nocturna With this we've got
Starting point is 01:23:57 to terminate the episode Recurred In this moment we're the part that is
Starting point is 01:24:02 Abietal the public In the Membresi We have the membership in the one
Starting point is 01:24:07 you can't see the videos but without any one an non-annu also
Starting point is 01:24:10 an also there's the membercy where there's in the material ined
Starting point is 01:24:13 that we have been in the episode 40 and 41 about 45
Starting point is 01:24:18 minutes extra of material that not is that
Starting point is 01:24:21 and the membersia and the investigators to those
Starting point is 01:24:26 those I'm to start to give to those we
Starting point is 01:24:29 get to final to the one of the things very
Starting point is 01:24:33 a profound so we We've got to this episode. For favor,
Starting point is 01:24:37 commenten us and helpen to get to the 10 likes to get to these religions orientals. And Pac,
Starting point is 01:24:44 something with what you want to do you want to do you the audience? No, man, so much
Starting point is 01:24:48 thanks. Thank you. For the invitation. The fact to be to talk about to what
Starting point is 01:24:53 no exist. It's a man a great a brazo, a salute to all the
Starting point is 01:24:55 family nocturna. And, we, we're not, we're and come the
Starting point is 01:25:01 the RETo, because the truth is that we're in that material that I mean,
Starting point is 01:25:08 the truth, is very delicate but, you know, here we're doing the RETO. Yes,
Starting point is 01:25:13 yes, that's, that's, that's, that's the net is that if not we
Starting point is 01:25:18 get us to the $0,000, I don't be, I'd, me, they'd be a lot,
Starting point is 01:25:24 so is that, so, so we get good, but, well, and if we're
Starting point is 01:25:28 we're getting, thanks. So, so, so, Paco, you know, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:31 the doors abertas and we're pretty to see a podcast extranormal and tell us
Starting point is 01:25:38 what you're about the first of the idea of your name a podcast in that's we're going to
Starting point is 01:25:44 put up to a little talking about about this about this but well we're a family
Starting point is 01:25:49 nocturna a last I'm a good a time and I want a
Starting point is 01:25:53 good good funer and I'm bye bye

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