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Welcome to Family Nocturna
A episode
more of
about we'll be
the day of
we're a episode
very special
because me
a distance
but in the studio
my good
friend Paco Arias
Paco, how
you're doing?
What is
how the narrator
very well
and very
happy to
be here
with all of
you guys
the
really is that
I'm
I'm
here to
your program
the
the reality is
that many
that many
people
that are
going to
know
that can
know
also
that we
we
we try
of some experiences
of the podcast
Extranormal
I'm sure
I'm sure
thank you
thank you
many people
many people
of the family
nocturna
and people
that recently
has known
the podcast
for these
collaborations
that we've
said
when they're
when they're
to have
your podcast
so
well
what you
think
that you
go there
going to
this
episodes
they're
going
like
a podcast
exclusive
or
the collaborations
are
these
sporadical
they're
saying
by
the
thing. But Paco,
a pleasure,
a pleasure,
I'm trying to
keep here
this
these last few times
of the last
collaboration that
we did it's
the legendas
to Latin America
to the
people of
the podcast
he's
he's great
because normally
as we're
we're talking
some some
some other
or themes
that are
in Mexico
so in
this
in this
chapter
of the
legendas
Latin America
we
we've
we've
we've
we're
And the truth is that
a much
people
they've got
really
for the
people who
was listening
in this
episode
in the
talk about the
talk about
we've seen
we know
that there
specifically
a place
whose
legends are
very
attereradur
so
so
very,
very macabras
let's
we recommend
we're
we're
we're
we're
we're
because there
is a
competition
that's
that's
good that's
that's
that's
that's
very
tetric
the legends.
If you're going to
I'm going to
I recommend
much also the
last experience
the last
the last
because it's the
most macabra
of all that's
because it's
because it's
very rapts
so really it's
very macabra
yeah,
coincide
coincide
was the
most tethric
of the
most perturbored
of the
episode but
but of
the other
ways the
legends that
we've
seen similarities
between
various legends
Mexican
and other
some
South America.
It's an episode
that we recommend
to revisit.
It's on the
channel of Extra
Normal.
And, of
actually,
I'm going to
leave the link
here in the
first commentary
fixed.
Perfect.
My man,
muchism.
And there,
we're
we're going to
see that
chapter.
The
really,
they're
going to
because I
know that
your
public
not is
specifically
in Mexico.
And we
we're
we're also
we're
that the
Yorona,
that's the
Sajona,
so
are like
many,
many,
many,
many,
many,
many people,
I'm going to be
really good.
For the
people that
we're doing
and that
yeah,
you know,
remember,
subscribe to,
give it,
and make,
and comment,
if you
do this
episode,
is the
way in the
way we
we can
make our
people,
and with
you know,
and with
those who
are new
in the
channel,
let's
commento
that are the
membersies,
that by
the members
ies,
they have
access to
content
exclusive,
and to
those who want to enter in question
of investigation,
like to get us
a lot more
in the members,
there's the
membership of investigator.
Now,
so the day
of today we
have a
episode with
a lot of
many,
various temasos
because today
we're going to
talk of the
santaia,
the palo mayombe,
the yoruba,
and the budu.
Temas
very,
very,
very scabrosos.
Paco,
how you
first question,
how you went
the investigation
of these
things?
Before
to investigate the
Not you
So,
no,
I'm going to
That's
Repelus
of saying
I'm
I'm getting
in the
awas
Yeah,
of the
actually
I'm
when we
put us
the time
that we
did you
we're
I'm
I'm
conscious
of when
we're
sometimes
when we
all
the
abyspero
so
so
pass
certain
things
so
so
so right
I
put to
read
what
was
Boudoo
Yoruba
that
at
At final of
the
point of the
is that there's
many ways
to be,
it's the
way, it's the
people who
do the people who
do you,
I don't
just go to
nobody,
we're
all we're
not,
we're
we're not,
we can't
be more
more than the
paranormal.
But also
there are
other
other forms
also to
see all this
that are
really,
so are very
macabras,
very
those,
and that
in the
last
in the nights
when
normally I
don't know
I'm
those
I'm
investigate
about
various
things.
The
fact,
in this
occasion
I'm
the day
to be a
little more
about this
because
for my
work.
I normally
I'm
doing
I'm going to
10,
11,
to 3
at 3
the
morning.
So,
being
things
there
them
or even
even
many
cases
of
the
people who
are
that are
very
very
there
there
there
is a
case
a
case of
a
100%
and it's
very macabro
Perfect,
we're
going to
start.
But I'm
talking to
this you're
talking about
about you
need to
you're in
the day
to review
the time
to me
were
things
sometimes
I'm
doing this
I'm
not I'm
not I'm
like these
the
really that
the fact is
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
things that
was a
an anecdote very, very,
very,
very extra.
I don't
say macabra,
but if I was
very rare.
So, me
quitted a
little bit of
a tranquillity.
Okay.
Stando a
day,
after having
revised these
thematicas,
I was in
actually,
I'm talking
with a
little bit of
a chica
that's doing
with a
santaa
and we
did the
thematicas
in a form
very limited
of a
form very,
you can
be an
very linder,
but
if we
did,
much of the religion
not so we
can't say
it's only
for the people
that are
so it's secret
so I'm
going to say
some say
some people
not really a
great revelation
are things
they're
but I
help you
but I'm
to help
you're
so
it's very
people
and it
and I'm
so
I'm
indigando
in the
time
so there
there was
there
there was
there
I'm
there
not I'm
not
I'm
there
was
a
ambient,
Leve,
but it's
a little,
but it's
a little bit of
this in the
night that's been
super-extrable.
While I'm
doing,
it's a moment
in the
moment in the
moment in the
I'm
so it was
very rare,
it was like
if it
had an
energy at
maximum,
as you
had been
much,
the
of those
you're
like,
you're
like,
I'm
I'm
I'm in
doing
activities and
actually
very
but at the same
time it was a
a sensation
a little rarer
like if
something more
was going to
be able
the door,
I'm going to
the door
and I
see a
light that
recorre the
room
from a
end of
a
and it
and it
posa
just
in the
door
and it
be like
it's
like a
light
that's
like a
very, very
very
extrao
never
had
seen
or something.
And then the
center
it's a
open a
type of
a vortex
line of
a color
rojo.
A rojo
like a
like a
like a
ruby
very bright
and then
I'm
the light
and me
get an
idea to
the
head to
the
way
the rojo
that
that's
that's
but the
scane
of the
look
to
when they
when they
they're
a
when they're
they're
having
a
So, I said, no, it'ser that
someone's in the patio of the
house.
So, I'm
I'm amom,
and I'm in
into account of
the window
the window of the
window of the
door,
of the form in the
way in the
way to do you
know, I'm
experimented the
day next
and with a
lightenerer
and I,
no, no,
no,
no, you can't
get there
because,
you're just,
for the form
of the
court,
but it was
very
extrano, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, me, me, he madehue, me
a little, me, me deyroquil, but it was, ah, la, madre, not
start to be talking things that no deveree?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and, of course, de, and, and, and, and, and, and, and,
And this
passed because
she
started
to indigar
in these
things.
You know,
it's like
the effect
dominos.
You know,
you know,
you know,
and if
not know
how to
do this
and how
to be able
to get to
maybe to
landes
that are
very
dangerous,
like you
go doing,
you're
going to
you're
going to
you're
going to
experience
in
your
life
many things.
Basically, you
Addentras,
you make a
even though
you're doing,
you know,
you're basically
to have many
experiences that
are the people
that are in these
arts.
Okay.
This case,
you know,
many of them to
know,
is the case
of the famous
YouTuber Paulette.
Well,
most we know
and I'm
really, I'm
really,
so it's a
job,
his form of
how narrs
the stories,
but
something
not I know much, for example,
I don't,
I know this
case,
but I saw
his content,
and his content
if he had
somethings,
they were
things very
occulted,
I'm not
so you,
I don't know,
and then
when I
go back to
consume your
content,
I've got
a lot of
a 100%
of,
of relato,
of all what
is the
thing paranormal
brugery
can,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
casos,
that
go to assassino serials or
a little more
light, for so
so I say to say it.
Then once I metto
to investigate and I
saw a video
of her
where she
took a experience
very strong
with this
theme of the
brugheria.
She knows
that in a
time when she
went to
many of those
followers,
she knew,
they were
they're
and it's normal
receiving
regalos
for part of
them.
Of course
that is
a mou
a carino,
maybe
in
some moment
narrator
when you pass the famous moment
that you get to your 100,000
subscribers and you
quittes the maskara,
will be great.
It's great.
And you go to
go and you
go to a state,
much people that
consume your content
for that
affection, for that
cario,
you're going to
give to
give us.
So, this
so,
it's so
she did
something very normal.
She said
that with
all the
things that
she was,
the practicante
of her religion
and she
or about her
redoubt that's
interesting because
she said that
she wrote
he said
that when the
the giftos
those were
all they were
where they were
she's
they were
she started
she started
something something
something
something
she went
that she
not is of
the persons
that suffer
the paralysis
of the
soo
it's very
normal
that
She, I think,
uniquely,
he had
passed very
few times
in all his
life.
And that night
that she
had had
all the
things,
she was
to have
a paralysis
of the
and not
only
not only
accompanied,
she said,
she was
she was
a,
a
normal
because not
only
she,
but also
he was
a
person,
he was
a
person,
and she
started
much
activity
paranormal,
for
to have those
regalos
but there
one in
special
that had
a carg
very
very
so
this is
this is
to affect
to her
to her
to
his novio
and they
had to
have
a lot
and have
a lot
pesed
and
then
in the
situation
for
for that
was
that
was
that
they
they
they
they
they're
they
they're
they
they
they're
they
they're
And while
they were
She narrate
that they
They're going to
They're
They're
They're
There's always
And they're
to feel a
Vibra
very pesable
when they
started
when they
started
She said
And it's
That's a
coche
He was a
woman
And the
She was
She was
She was
A little
She goes
She's
A lot
It's a
It's
I know
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
So she
She still year
and
he says
there's a
point
where she
starts
a lot of
a
real real
but
her new
his new
novi
started
a lot of
it's
like it's
like
a transference
in that
in that
moment
came the
most
the most
so
because
her
know
so
his factions
of her
and
started
to
start
to
her
and she
did a
question
that she
was
she did
In that moment, she had known days
before since she had had had an interview
with a, I'm like, an exorcist,
and she's a reprender.
Even she tried to exorcisar-sozsche-law for 15 minutes
and he got to tranquillize to his novi.
They're going, then, with a, a sacerote exorcist,
and liberate a suburb, and to live,
and to her, even, a person that she was posited,
had a
I'm a entity
So,
so all this
happens
because all
a few
a lot of the
where one
where one
where one
indaga
and then
and then
enterandrances
said to
the chabba
without you
saying to
you're going to
you're
you're getting
and a
pastiped to
to not
practice it
but this
was something
that was
something she
she said
she says
that she
she says that
she says that
that I saw
that I would have
the content
I thought
that
she had a
because the
fact of
the fact that
it's a
or that's
something that's
something that
we're doing
a certain
thing and
it means
that you
do you do
do you do
do you
do it.
So she
commented
that the
people
thought that
she was
for that
they were
that's
for some
and
certain types of
different
with certain
work.
So she
she does
she far
the other
is that
also that
also that
that's
that someone
that is
what
I'm
also
But it was one of the experiences,
well,
I'm a creator of content
that's the time
that sometimes we're
also talking.
Of course,
the experience,
in some moment
I got to talk to
and she mentioned
that after that
did some lado
the things
paranormal.
I don't know if
he's done,
but it's
too many
it was two
years.
Yes.
Without.
to talk
these things
to do this.
And,
and,
And,
fiatte that
a
sometimes is because
you addentras
to get into
the theme,
but a
in relation to
palomayombe.
The palomyeombe
is a religion
that is a
country and
that when
the conquest
they came,
they were
with the
exclavos
Africanos
all their
and some
of them
had the
thing
in this
palo mayombe
that has
another
number
that no
no I
don't know
no
But an
A friend
that was in Panama
that's actually
here
he was in the
episode that
he's called
Asecho
nocturno
he commented
that in
Panama
many people
practicable
santaia
Paloma Yoruba
and all
that was
and it was
like one of
the religions
that more
proliferable
that
that was
that was
that was
he was
he was
looking
an apartment
where
where he
and some
them
they offer
in the
of them
They're
a very
good cost
and he
is going to
that they're
practicing
of the palom
yombe
for him
not important
because he
has a
Christian
Christiana,
I don't
remember if
is Catholic
Christian
but he
has a
person
and he
he didn't
see a
problem
that he
no,
I don't
say
that in si
a
problem
but what
he was
he
kept
in this
house
has
been
has
passed
yeah
various
years
he's
a comodoo,
it's a
good cost,
it's a
good place,
and then
a night,
that no
there's a
person,
that's
going to
hear of the
room,
a little,
a little,
like if
someone
had a
tallyer,
and he
was perforand
some type
of a
thing, so
then he's
he's
he's been
his time
in some
activity,
and after
he does
know that
he's done
a couple of
hours and
see the
sound
out of
out of the
S.
It's a
very
extrano and
says,
oh,
that's
with the
way,
that at
this hour
of the
night
are the
time.
So, he
was
thinking
in
dorms.
When
he's
the
sound,
and
he
gets
more
more
more
and it's
the
so.
Then
then you
just
he's
he's
he's
he
a
door and
he's
to get to
the
thing,
like to
give us
the
way
he
back
the
volume, no,
I don't
do that.
So when
it's
the
quarter,
it's a
sound that the
sound,
it's a,
it's a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
a,
and the
thing,
was a
moment,
it was a
thing,
with the
door
a
soundable,
but
with the
door
over,
then it
was
that it
was like,
someone,
that's
someone,
so,
I'm
so I
preoccupied.
Comience to
to come in
the house and
when I'm
like if in the
center of
the cell
there's like
someone
to beheating
but a
gritts.
It's yeah
it was a
strong
that you
not me
could get
to the
head to
say,
and I
never I
felt
that much
I'm
getting
to the
court
and I
got the
door
and
now the
subbed
he
was
he's
so
he's
so many
hours
passed
until
that of
that's
the time.
The kids
get on
like two,
three days
after.
And then
he's very
very assuptado
and he's
and he says,
oh,
I'm going to
this,
and they're
and they
say,
you're going to
a
saint.
So he
said,
no could
get me
there.
After that
I'm
had to
get to
get to
so.
There are
situations
in
that you
don't
you're
not
you're
you're just
doing
you're doing that
basically you're
basically being a
basically being a ram of what
that's a lot of what
is a lot of
in the conquest
and has to count
that basically
every country was
that was adapting to his
customs
and there nashboudoo
Yoruba, Palmajom
so
some much the practices
that's
that's
one of the
one of the
one of the
one of the
one of the
one of the
fact is cataloged
like a religion
that's
that's used
for many
people for
protection and
to have
even to have
artists
for here I'm
there's
I'm notated
for example
Newarka
talking of
Newarka
New York
even
even even
even even
also
also is
that's
maybe
Ricky Martin
is
and
And,
maybe,
Abirtamint,
but many
people are sure
that she,
because in
her song
of the Guacuaka,
you know,
those years,
I think it was
the 2010.
Yes,
yeah,
this,
desponted much,
in that
song,
she mentioned,
she mentions
these deities
in their
song.
So,
all this
is,
so,
so,
it's,
so it's,
and so
many people
do they
much with,
with the
thing of
the cult of
the murder,
really
are
two
things
In Mexico is where
the cult of the
and the santares
is very different
They're not
They're not
They're not
They're not
They're not
They're not
They're
They're
They're like
They're
They're
They're
And they're
And it's
Like a style of
They're
They're gonna
It's
It's protection
It's
abundance
It's
Rundance
The
I think
The Huyah
I think
It's
When it's
When it's
It's
When the
Yorua, fiatte, is that dependes
much of them, they call them like a
to a patron.
And the fact, if
here, I think,
he's interested,
they need to have
money, because
every padrino
manage different,
well, basically
different,
prices that
are from the
800,
to the $2,000,
$2,000.
And in
that process of
initiation,
fiat,
here,
there is something
I'm
because you
know,
that you
do you
you start,
the I
So, so
the
people
when you're
when you're
doing,
uh,
they're in
an initiation
that
many,
many people
or many
people,
or much
people,
This will depend
much
I'll say
the other
but I'm
doing it
some days
in a podcast
a woman
that was
saying that
she was going to
be going to
she was
interested
there was
there was a
there
there was a
she had
to get to
get to
but there
but there
there's a
point of her
more
macabro
because
they're
to manage
or to
make
sacrifices
of animals
of
the gillinas
of negras
and
do
something
more
more
more
and she
decided
not
continue to
you know,
this
depends
of how
they're
on the
but there
things that
are very
macabras
that's
in those
three days
of
initiation
that's
where
many
that
many
and
and
supposedly
after the
seven
years
that you
you
get
in all
you
you're
you
you
see
a
change
in the
but
many
people
they
abandon
the
barco
because
in
those
three
days
of
initiation
basically
there's
many things
some of the
things very macabras
so this
will depend
much of the
people who
are the people
and obviously
this is
pretty much
for the charlataner
and yeah
that are
basically
not
not are what
are they're
but they're
they're
they're
they're
so the
thing of
the Yoruba
basically
basically means
being
being being
more protection
a style
of life
and defense
against
against
want to attack
but
fichate
that as
I'm
when I
Budu
wow
I mean
is
another other
thing
is that
I'm
you know
I'm
so you're
Yoruba
Palomay
Jambh
are
some
are like
the
adaptations
of the
people
in Latin
America
Bood
is
directly
in Africa
Haiti
Nigeria
which
basically
is
like
I don't
I don't know if
the
mother
but it's
where most
it's where
this
all this
so,
so,
that's
not quite
nato
no,
no,
it's
not made
with
the
the other
arts,
and no
manches,
is,
is something
it's a
thing,
the
thing of
Boudou
and I
talk to
you,
I'll
talk,
the
thing
of the
issue
of a
woman
that
was a
a mucu
a
be a
vanganza.
They're
so,
they're very
things
are very
so you're
things that's
talking about
about the
Yurova
I'm in
I'm in
I'm in
you know
that I'm
a chica
that's
initiating in
a santaia
and with
her
and then
talking with
you know
well if
so I'm
curious
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
not
they're
not
the question
not
they had
to
respond to
at the
final
it's a
good
dialogue and
there were
many
questions
that I'm
going to
you're
to be
to be
something
and it
was a
interesting.
The
first is
the
Yoruba and
the
santaia
practically
is the
same
is the
same
if there
is a
change
the difference
is that
the
Yoruba
we're
the
version
not
not
Latino
American
is
the
religion
original
but
when
when
were
those
slaves
to
Latin America, specifically
to Cuba,
as you mentioned
with a Yoruba,
many of
them had to
have forcedosoment
the religion
Catholic, because
if they were
the people who
had imprisoned.
So,
what was what
did those
slaves?
Something very
similar to what
was in
Brazil with
the Capoeira.
They were
to be able to
talk to
something
in something
that they
wanted to
they were
in the
capoeira
they were
doings
that were
rituals and
really were
a method of
attack and
a defense.
In the
question of
the Yoruba
and now
in what is
the santaia
what they were
that they were
they were
the name
and used to
the name
of the
the same
the name of
a god
and a
saint
catholic
coincidia
and they
put in the
name
of the
so.
So,
they're
they're
using this
technique
that is
the syncretism
that is
like
assimilar
the things of two
creencers
to be able
to keep
their religion
that was with
their religion,
so the santaia
and the yuroba
are like,
you could
say primas
and hermannas,
no?
And I
took an
experience with
santeros
in many
years that
had made
that I
had made,
that he
had had
much
a much
fear,
no respect
to,
Mereu
to this
religion.
Here in
Montererere
Dime
me
I
want to
I
want to
I
want to
That's just because you interrup,
but I want to mention
something that maybe is something
I don't know, I mean,
I mean, I'll say,
I mean, I'm a lot,
you know, I'm going to be able to,
this is something that I'm,
not something that I'm saying,
but no see if you
have heard, that they're,
that's the,
of the,
disfrasar to,
the,
saint, Catholic,
and behind
there's a deity
very powerful
that, that's
that's a
, that's
that's up in
these practices.
She was heard.
I don't know
if you've
heard of,
I said
I'm a
I'm saying
I'm saying
I'm saying
that I'm saying
that I'm
and I'm
so I'm
so I'm
heard of
that you've
heard of
that
that's
that I'm
there
that basically
is a
that basically
has been
the
little
the moon
but
I've
seen
and I
suppose
it's a
idea
very
very
very strong
of a woman
that
clama
adoration
and that
basically is
the
behind the
Virgin of Guadalupe
and even
even is a
person that's
a certain
because has
been adored
at the long
to be
but that
he's
that's
that's
I think it's
something
that I
only was
I'm
just wanted to
ask
something
I've
said
before
me
I'm
comment
in this
question
of
the
Virgin
of Guadalupe
the
that was,
remember you
remember what is
the name
of this
deird?
Right,
I'm trying to
remember it
because I'm
not that
not that's
I'm
to know that
I'm just
you're saying
but if
there's a
name,
if it's a
name,
no,
I'm a
realtor
but no
I don't
remember the
name.
The
doubt is,
is that
is that
there's
there's
there.
The first
is that
that
I don't
see
if simply
there
a lot of
similarities,
and then
it's not
if the artist
that retrata,
or so the
first, the
first, the
first painting
was on the
other deidad
to say,
I'm,
I don't see
a factical
because a
me made
clear that the
Virgin of
Guadalupe,
in the
creencia
Catholic is
an abocation,
so it
is a virgin
for that
the person
of a
people of a
person of a
person of a
way different
in different.
Asi.
So,
is in the
creencia.
Dentro of
the version
sociopolitica,
we'd
call it that
the technique
is very
simple.
Put deities
that's imaged
to be
reflected in the
deity,
and then
so it's
one with
one with
one of
what you
is oprimed
for persons
of other
color of
not you
don't
put to the
other
to the
color.
Put it
on the
color of
them
and then
there's
there's
a
point of
connection
between
you and
you.
So,
a level sociopolitical,
you can understand
perfectly the technique,
but also
there's a question
like mystic and
of creencers
that's, or more
well, I know,
I know, I know,
I know, if it
was a technique
sociopolitica,
if it was that
there's a
creencia of
a tracond, in a
deidad, and then
with this
they painted like
the virgin,
or if
there was
some type of
situation
mystic,
and what
that's
that's
or that the
painter
is a
idea of the
other deities.
It's the
that at the
way it's
a little
diffus to
when it
is a
internet,
no,
there's access
to the
education,
the people
not know
they're
a chino
of things.
All of
a secret
to bosses.
How you
going to
have to
a
picture to
a two
continents
of distance?
No.
I don't know
if you
where you
is where you
can't
be
but
it would have to
have been
a confabulation
to be a
back to
or really
not it's
in that form
but let's
go ahead
back on
yeah
I'm going to
I think to
you know
we have to
we have to
understand
that the
virgin or
Maria
at final
of the
mind of
Jesus
was a
a woman
judy
of
that
of Jerusalem
of
this
of those
countries
and for
example, they have
in their,
as they're in their,
as they're
like they're in
a Jesus,
like they're
like those
people with
those
countries,
exactly,
altos,
black,
castaions,
and it's
very curious,
for example,
that the
Virgin,
Maria,
that representan
here in
Mexico,
have the
rasked
of a
American,
so,
so it's
the same
in the
is that,
the thing,
I think,
it's
very
strange,
it's
very
I'm, I mean, I don't
consider no doctor in the
thing.
I don't know
more.
Sure.
It was a lot of
situations
very lighters.
It was a
thing that me
especially,
like not was
a thing that
never was
that I'm
to get to
to investigate.
What I see is
that in
every culture,
the abocation,
that's like
the image
that's the
image that's
there's a
there's with
many with
many of
many,
but it
doesn't
much to
the people
of the
people.
Chingo.
Of
it
It's very much
It's a
Vigern,
there's a
years,
the virgin,
the virgin,
she was
also the
people of the
area,
I don't
remember exactly
in
where it's,
but it
was like the
person's
there.
There's a
German
and you,
you know,
you know,
is a
American,
a hundred
percent.
There's
there's,
there's
there's a
percent
Italianas
and is
where they're
where they're
where the
Vatican,
so it's
like,
it's like,
it's
more a
detraseism, a form in the
in that the case,
in this case, from the creedice
Catholic, not they consider
a deity,
but a person
very close to God,
couldierreys to say that,
that's present a form of
different to have to
contact with the persons.
So, it's like,
but also
that this,
that this,
this divosa,
no see if it's
Mitra,
but if
someone,
if someone,
if someone,
if someone,
is the
Dioza, that
is exactly
the same figure
of Maria.
And if you
know,
so if you can
put the link
to see that
image,
it would be
great,
no?
The fact,
I'm looking
being,
well.
But,
but well,
but,
well,
so,
so it's
used to
when they're
like,
like,
questions
of colonization,
colonialization,
that was the
form of
a religion or
a creency
mexlantly
with the
with the
with the
so it's
it's called
Tonansi
Tonanxi
That's the
That's the idea
Here's the idea
So you can
You can't
You can't
You can't
But you
But supposedly
They say
It's the
Deidad
Detas of the
Culted
Whatalupan
Is what
I'm
That's
Oh,
Perfecto
And it's
A deid
Mexican
It's a
It's a
Mexican
Exactly
Exactly
They get
the
Spanish,
like to
impone
his dioces
this is
this
is a
they're a
not a
to have a
problem
with what
they were
in the
in terms of
your faith.
Uh-huh.
So what
also,
what's
what happened
what's
what's
so
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
okay,
yeah,
so,
yeah,
I mean,
a level,
I mean,
to
like,
I mean,
to say,
so,
so,
if it's,
so,
so,
so,
if it's,
it's,
a
colonize
to colonize
to
do what are
their
and customs
and to
do you
do this
so I'm
that they're
like things
very similar
and you
those
and you're
in the
gancho.
Terminant
confundient
there.
There are
many,
there's
many characteristics
in this
this
tendency.
The point
just is
that for
the
people that
not the
technique
not is
exclusive of
a cult
is of
all.
In
the
actuality
There is a idea
very syncretist
in torno
a tendencies
occultists in
those that
they're all
the cultures and
of all the
religions and
they're
they're doing a
and they're
like they're
like they're
like they've been
to make sure
and then
they're going
about
extraterrestres
that's
that has to
have to
with the
Virgin
and that
has been
a leg of
central
Bastink
yeah
yeah
because
here
much the theory of
the book of No
I'm also
I'm also
I'm also
that's a
thing
yeah in the
channel
that's
that's
like the time of
those extraterrestresres.
They're so,
are theories
really,
but
let me tell me
I'm
to read it
and not
so he's
too
so much
very far
the talk
of the
thing of
we're talking
but the
fact
is that
is that
is a
lot of
seriously
because
after
to come
because
these
people
they're
these
they're
not
they're
not
are
they
sects?
Sects? Exactly, the sects.
I mean,
like those
are they're in
all these.
Because they're
in their
minds,
they're making
their own
their own
their own
their own
their own
and much of
these doctrines
the fact
yeah,
exactly
related with the
thing that
we're doing
I've
I've been
some
I've done
that's
that's
there's
that's
the
Joseph Eduardo
Dervis
and no
I don't
remember
he's
you call this person,
justly
an santero
to a santero
a manned
a cistero
Cuban and a
manneder
and he's
chasando the
and the
santao
cubano
know a
about the
thing,
of the
thing social,
the
thing religious
he knows
of many
religions,
and he
has various
plantamions
very
interesting.
He
he's
about
about
just
how is
the sync
and
he's
about how
they
used
the syncretism
to
to show
their religion
of a form
in the way
in the
not they're
they're
not in the
people who
they're in
so it's
very interesting
because he
he's
he's a
voice
like the
people who
took to
use
that's
so
so
so
who can't
let's
the
interview
the
the
so
the
he's
put
he's
put
he
he's
and
let's
to appear. And in that
platic that he's
taking, he's a lot of
things about the santaia. And
it's a little interesting.
I mean, there are questions
in the santaia that are,
for me, me,
me quittering the
because I said, I've had a
experience with santaia
a few years in the
in Monterey, he went,
a, how can't
a festival
that was the festival esoteric, if I don't know
I don't know,
or convention esoteric.
So, this was
20 years.
Apparece in the cartelones
that will come and
I said, oh,
well,
let's see what,
to see,
what,
what is there,
to be interesting
or,
or what,
with what I
top,
no?
So when
I'm,
really,
I top with
things that in
that in
that time
me caused
more risa
than
interest.
So,
persons
bestied of
monsters.
It was like
if you
had been
a festival
of the
horror with
with creencies
so.
So,
it was
very rare.
I mean,
I think
that right
is very
different,
but in
that moment
was very
or
maybe it
was a
show
because
it was
in the
time.
I
took up
with
a person
that
I'm
got to
and I
know
and it
so
I'm
so you
don't
much
credibility
or
another
person
and you'd
and then it
was a
role that
they'd
do you end
different,
but at the
time they
were in
so they're
in a lot of
you know
so for me
in that moment
I was
was attacked
in a risa
because
never had
been so
so different
and so
that I
so much
I'm
not a
sound of
a burla
me caused
much
a great
because of
everybody
Freddie
Krue
was
talking
with
the Elfo
and
Jason
in
a
one
in a
one
one
person,
all
vestida
and there
was my
encounter with
my own
my own
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
A minute
me said,
oh yeah,
backal,
because they're
to think you
you're going to
this is this
this is a
badrissim.
I mean,
when,
I'm going to
be to be a
crossover
of many
universes,
so.
So,
I was
impacted for
that I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
back to
I'm
and
I'm
to see
a
and with a
very severe
just a
one more
my face
it's the
first time
in the life
that's the
never I'm
like the
same I'm
then I'm
this person
because I'm
seeing this
and that
that's
it's a
great
of energy
very rare
very
very rar
I'm
I'm
put to
do
and I
go back
and I'm
going
going to
a
little
that in
that time
we
we used
that
there was
that
there
I mean, we know, we know, not here
something like that's a lot of
something, or something,
very, of something, very exotic.
Then I said, oh, yeah, no, there's
here a lot of santaia, for what is?
And me, they said, yeah, in tal post.
I'm going to the place.
I go and it was a very imponent.
Like a type of carpa,
with quadros and figures,
and he had, like,
some types of harroncitos and vellas,
and so it was like very chamois.
manic, very esoteric, but
very mystic.
I mean,
no, no,
it was a
armado to generate
an impact.
It was armed
like, so
that's,
no?
And, of
when I was
back,
he's
one of the
carpas,
and it's
a chaba and
he's a
little bit of
the same thing
to the
piece.
Me,
I did a
chorro of
a year,
and I'm
with my
I'm
just,
I'm just
the hand
the sun-de-
pass,
he was
a
I got a
of a
fear of
and I'm
and I'm
doing.
After that
I'm
away from the
way,
he's got to
do the
and he's
these guys
these quats are
like,
these quats are
like,
not, no,
no, I
know if
a level
of a
power
mystic
in this
time was
what I
think I'm
a level
mystic
but
minimum
at
a minimum of
impon
there's
there's
there's
there
is a
not so
so it's
so
Supposedly, one person
is interviewing
to a, a
satanist,
who was a man.
Okay.
He's a man.
And he's a
and he says,
and the senior
and the senior
he says,
he says to say,
maybe he came
to this video,
he starts,
you know,
that all this is
true,
you know what
put in my
book is
certain, and
he says,
and I can
say, and I
can know
that you
feel you
feel like you
you're
you're
so much
fear.
And the
the
intervistator
he's going to
be able to be,
that's basically
burlarned
but the other
cabron,
I mean,
imponying with
his car
like,
vire,
saying,
you're,
you're just
you're
being a
mind.
And I
know what
part of the
conversation
he says
something that
he's
to start
a lot,
and automatically
he's
to start
to start
to see,
I don't see
this video.
It's a
is a
movie?
It's a
movie?
Is a
a movie?
Yes,
that's
that's
all in
black and
black? No, no.
If you see
Yeah,
yeah,
they're in colors?
Yeah.
Oh, they're
Argentinians?
Are you?
I think so.
I think so.
I think
but I see, but
I see, but I
can be a
effect Mandela
or it
can be the
different?
But,
but it's
to startre the
nose and
there's the
time?
There's,
that's,
but,
many
people,
in the,
I mean,
I'm
much to learn
the
comments
because it's
where's
where
so the
reality or veracity at
a lot of
the things
and there are
people who
do they're
really in the
comments
I'm in,
I really do
do you actually
cause a
mal or a
official to
someone in pro
of what you
want to do
and here
I'm for
a example
I read
Boudoo
uh
another
wait
right we're
we're
we're
we're
because I
want to
tell to
let's
let's
something
there's where
there's
where he's
where it's
where it's
where it's
Yeah, it's like the
Like the entry
to Boudou and Palomayombe.
Look,
I'm going,
first I'm
this experience
with the 20 years
I'm afraid of the
so I'm
so we're going to
to be you
to this time
I was chavreadish
he was.
I'm sorry,
this is
this is to
front me to
something
to do a
little years.
And I said,
and I said,
to the frigate
occur this opportunity
to have an
acercation with
people that
that are there
that's
that I'm
I'm sorry
when they're
when they're
to explain to
start to
get many
and they're
and they're
so it's a
really a religion
some creencies
and there
there's much
like
of creencies
in torno
to you
that makes
that you
make a
but then
then I'm
to understand
that are
rituals
traditions
etc etc
but
when when
In the interviewist, there,
the interviewer who is
with this, Jose Eduardo Erbiz,
the santaero cubano,
he gave a touch because
mentioned something
about the final.
They're talking,
they're, they're, they're
with the santo.
They have a lot
with the people,
and as well,
it's more in relation
to protection,
prosperity,
of equilibrium.
It's a
kind of a
religion that
is a
naturalness,
with the
respect, with the
world.
A style of
a better.
Yeah, it's a style of
That's a
That's a
That's a
That's a
They've
They're much
They know
They're not
They're
But it's
A question
Very strong
That's
He says
He says,
that depends
much of the
criteria
of the
That's
What is
good for
you is
good for
me
And they
They're
They're
They're
They're
And certain
Crencies
And
It's
Well, if
a person
When
a
person
that he does not do you
I'm saying,
I'm saying,
if the deities, if the deities,
if the orisha me says that no,
I say,
I know, I mean,
we don't, no,
we don't, no,
we don't do we have to
do.
He says, but if he
insists and
apart he's
to pay the price,
he's going to
him and not my.
And so,
and then I
see a point of
this, so,
has a,
so, has been
a point in
that they,
they're,
they can do
a way
in the way
in the
the damage,
we're correlations
to...
He mentioned
a situation
in the
he said he
said he
he said,
you're going to
have to pay
a price.
If you're
not only
monetary,
monetary is
altissimo,
but apart
of the
monetary,
there's
there's
there's
because the
I don't know
I'm going to
do you know
I don't do
you do
it, you
don't the
thing, not
the other person,
and the other person,
and he does a
The other says, well, I
you just said that
you said that you're going to do.
And I just said
that there's a price.
After that,
if they're
to do you
do that other person,
if it's
what they're
looking, but
falle is a
child of the
that's doing
the payo and
all that.
So,
so stattissimo,
and he
he says,
like,
oh, why
occurred
all this?
Because I
said,
because I
said that was
the price, and
that was the
price that was
the price that
It's a situation
that you say,
oh,
no,
it's more like the alchemia
of the alchemia
of the equilibrium,
crud,
pure and dural,
no?
No,
not is something
so there are
that when cruises
a certain
line,
well,
so if they
get in,
in chock
with the
life and
with the
world,
it's being
being being
being being
like the
philosophy of
the arts
martiales,
so use
it's
for,
for,
not to
not to
end of
the
count,
it's
a final
you can't
you know,
it's,
like you
know,
you know,
you know,
but not
it's the
thing,
you know,
it's
being,
it's being,
it's being,
being,
being,
it's
the same,
but,
here,
here I'm
here,
but,
but,
let me
tell you,
I'm going to
tell,
before that,
the context
is that
I'm
I,
I'm,
I,
I'm,
we're,
yeah,
and then
,
and,
I'm,
I'm
I'm
a
little,
and basically
it's a religion
also,
like you
that's
that's
based
in
quite
a
custom
in a
creencers
but
like the
the budu
is nat
of Africa
or a
only
place
of
Nigeria
of all
those
places
of these
parts
of the
country
not is
a
variant
is
nat
of a
one
one
and
is
very
very
very
very
very
very
very
this
art
is
a
much,
much,
more than for
protection
it's being
being being
being being
to attack,
so,
to attack and
to be able
with someone.
So,
it's a
practice of
magic
a negra
basically,
very,
very much,
fortisima.
Here,
for example,
no see
you've seen,
in the
videos of
TikTok,
of Facebook,
that there
some,
how I can
describe,
like,
a lot of
of paja
that's
while
one's
when one's
that's
not going to
know if
you're looking
you know
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
yeah,
you know,
and here
like to
the followers
to facilitate
some
an image
or a
video,
or a
little,
that basically,
so,
this is a
ritual.
The voodoo
is a
practice
animist
because
it's
it's
to transfer
almas
objects
and
teist
because
it's
with
with
the
Yoruba. And they
They're
that
exists a
entity that
Rige the
universe
supernatural.
It's like
a god
but they're
but they're
directly
not can
talk with
him or
can't
give her
a petition
the
way of
the way of
it is
mediante
other
entities
more
small
that
are
as intermediaries
that
to
they're doing practices
of sacrifices
of sacrifices
rituals,
rituals,
and dances.
So,
what you
are you
are doing,
this thing
this is
moving,
that's,
like a
, like a
lot of
a lot of
a lot of
a lot of,
is because
the people
that's
practicing
is doing
an invocation
to the
entities
intermediaries
for that
this entity,
this entity,
this entity,
that is
going
directly
with the
entity
major,
and they can
they're
some
type of
malifixio
some type
of a problem
but commonly
are like to
attack and
to cover
with some type
of people
enemy and it's
something
so I think
the Boudou
is a
buddh
because it's
a practice
a practice
a 100
obscure
so we
we're about
so we're
about
so
about
okay
with
you're
you're
a
malvada
yeah
so very
macabra
because
congiv
sacrifices
human,
sacrifice
animals,
sacrifice,
are,
some,
are some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
some,
we know,
so,
we know,
we're,
we're,
in,
things,
cochinas,
because
then,
I mean,
those
that,
they're,
like,
seen,
or,
I've been
a little
of this,
you,
you know,
so,
well,
so,
so,
well,
I,
Well, I when we
We're going to
about this
in a story
in Instagram
I asked
some stories
of the
and a
seguerer
me
and a
second.
She said
that during
his infancy
his
his father
and his
mom
she's
a person
to a
fatherastro
while
his mom
was a
fatherastro
her maltratable
her maltratable
her
reaganiava,
and
unfortunately,
to the
few years,
her mom
also she
she'd
care of
her fatherastro
that basically
she was
basically he
was a
infirno
in life.
She,
she had
she
had
a much
violence
and she
was getting
to the
age of
the
14 years
and she
she
said that
her
fatherst
she
had
of desire
he started
to golepeer
but like he
he wanted
but other
things
no
he got a
point
of the
night
where this
person
starts
to go
to
agreder
physically
and
well
I don't
know how
mention it
for
that not
to have
problems
with
with the
red
but
it
basically
to
affect
your
intimacy
let
let's
let's
let's
let's
Okay.
This is
exactly.
This is going to
do you know
and she can't
say it.
She can't
express it.
He's not
a lot of
a lot of
a house of
a friend
that she
had practiced
that her
had practiced
that her
her family
was a room
she had a
a little
a book.
Here is
the curious
narrator.
One person
me said
that when
you
It gets normally, or the typical is that
a book of magic, it gets to your hands
by the other person. So, no it's like
that someone, it's like,
it's going to be, and it's
and this child. And this
child, he'll take
and, as a art of magic,
at open it,
encounter a part where it says,
how to cover with your enemy.
Ah, okay. At the moment, then, then
she, he'll met a mochilla,
and she'll get to his
her
She
She's
A lot
And it's
How you
A Perned
to be a
Muno
About the
Mucke's
Boodoo
She has
to fabric
one
occupant
Cabeio
of his
padastro
Tela
of a
capice of
his
all of
all
of the
energy
of him
She
does
like a
little
he
the
mule
with
with
the
form
that
his
father
not
he
did
he
had
the
the
hour
in
that
he
was
to go to grab her
to
get her
physically
so
a day
when he
was ready
there's
there's
there's
some
minutes
for that
he had
she
she had to
enter her
a guhous
to let
a loco
a loco
in the
part of
the stomach
and he
and he
and he
he starts
to the
few moments
he begins
to be
to be
to
a bit
to get
to be
to
make to
feel to
feel to
do this
all the
days,
all the days,
all the days,
but
to him
also he also
he's like,
a little
extrano,
because,
like,
like a
person,
well,
to do the
doctor,
no,
they'll
do it,
but a
time,
he'll
do the form of
and he
had a
other hour,
where she
had a
object,
he was
so much
to this
much to this
person,
that was
that,
she
said she
said that
he took
a
little,
he was
he made around
of his
coel,
he was
and with
a tigera
and he
and he
was a
something that I
know,
that I
said,
that I
said, that
that's
that same
day when
his
padastro
when his
fatherastro
was a
car
supertisim
automobilistic
with
other
vehicles
he
he's
disbarred
of his
vehicle
and he
he gets
he decapita
he's decapita
he
he's decapita
portisim
when I
when I
was I
was I
reading
like at
at the
one of
the
morning
I don't
I'm
to learn
because
I'm
to feel
a little
I'm
I'm
seeing
I'm
I'm
I
started
and
I'm
so
because
not
a
fact
fictitious. She
me described in a message
large-ism, and me
said, this was what
what happened.
I'd say to
that I'm sorry,
but the reality
is that I'm
really, this person
me made a lot of
I was simply like me. I'd have made, and I'd have said, and I'm
She has
me
and
I'll
share
to all
you know,
I'm
that you
know
that's the
story
that's
the story
that's
a situation
of
a
kind of
that time
that
that's
that
a
person
and that
that
is a
great
yeah
the
the
message
is
long
it's
super
long
right
I'm
trying
to
to record all
because I wanted
to talk
like a
very detail
but I'm
sure that
there are certain
things that
so I'm
passed.
But the
essence
is that.
Yeah,
yeah,
Duda.
How you
you felt
you,
you know,
what you
did you
to get to
contact with
this person
and the
story that
you were
that I
said,
I said,
the moment
in the
when I was
I was
going to
the
moment
very
incoo
and
feo.
Sentie
an oppression
and I'm
a shudder.
Of course,
I'm going to
start of
that the
climate
a little
of the temperature
but I
know,
I don't see,
something
a bad
a bad
a boca
you know,
is that
you know,
when you're
saying,
when you're
going to
it's a
real, I know,
it's a
change a
thing,
there was a
story
that
there was a
me told
a
chica
in
the
United.
In this
story,
she
did
a
after a
couple of
years in
her
that's
that his
husband
did
doels
and
they
did
in secret
there
was like
figure
little
the
house
but
she
not,
like
not,
they
they had
made
macabras
but
it was
all
no,
no,
no,
no,
he
did
so
But passing the time
So, he does
know that the
Quartet
does those
rituals and
he's offering
to the
family for
something.
So when
she's
entera of
this
rollo,
she wants
to get to
get to
get to
the
relationship.
And they
start to
get things
in the
house.
The
most
was in
two
occasions.
This
story,
I've
got to
the
Angel's Caidos
I recommend
that you'll
see the
episode.
It's the
episode
more
more
more
more
that I'm
in the
one
a child
a child
a
big of
a
day of
and
very
we're
to start
Angels
Ceydos
two
in those
that is
other person
but
with situations
like
in stances
and
you know
where
what you
know what
the
thing to
the
United
of this
history
those
two situations
that
two situations
that
in
his
abitation
he
he
he
he's
he
he
when he
when he
he
comes to
hear the
the
song of
the
the
ta ta
ta
ta ta
ta ta
ta ta
ta ta
yeah
and it
is sound
that
he's
he does
rather
because
for the
zone in
that
he's
very
very
extrano
that
that
someone
was
that
so
so
like,
so, like,
they're distraget in
other
things,
but she
feel
intranquilla,
it's
really to
hear the
music
another way.
Tat,
ta,
ta,
ta,
ta,
ta.
So,
now,
so he
presta
attention and
a
thing, and
it's
a lot.
The music
not
out of
the
room,
it's
wow,
it's
very rare.
Commian,
it's a
start to
be a
part of
there
he does a
know
that's
so he
starts
attention
from
from the
sound from
and he
he's
he's
he's
that he
a little
that's
so he's
he's
to come
to come in
and it
and he's
a moment
of the
real of
a million
and when
the
end of the
music changes
the
place
and the
door
the door
is
the
door
So, she is paniqueadishy.
She's like,
trying to enter in
some type of
oration,
he wants to
get to
get to
the door.
And in
that's
the door and
she's
like a
voice very
carasposa
that says
she's
me.
And she
go to the
house,
she
is able
the door
of the
entry
and she
let's
try and
he's
out of
the few
days
has
a
little
in those
she
is in the
but she
is there
is from
the door
and be
like the
front of
the
room in the
corner
where is
the
the
the
see where
there's
a type
of an
kind of
a
very
malignant
that is
being
with
her
eyes
and where
she
see
to be
the
camera
she
she
she
she
she
the
she
when she
she
she
she
she
she
is a
spectator of what
occurred.
And then when
when she
is parrata,
she sees as
the same
parading to
the camera and
the moment
in the moment in
that you
feel much
scalows-frills,
is because
that entity
oscura
is coming
on the
the techo
and it
and it's
right.
Wow.
So,
go can
walk,
and when
she gets to
the
endida
of the
door, the
one is
he gets to
the
door and the
car.
There was
where
was where
when she
lived the
first situation.
So in
that moment
that she
a door in the
car,
she gets a
and something
he says that
he says that
he has been,
but he
has been what
he passed
to a couple of
days
after.
She still
having a
lot of situations
espantosas
in that
house,
has much
fear,
and he says
that the
worst,
the
the worst
situation
was a
day
was a
front
to the
and at
to be to be front of the
spejo,
uh,
the,
uh,
the
recient
salida
of
the time,
uh,
and he
doesn't knowse,
he's
very,
and in that
he's not,
that his
eyes are
totally
black and
and he
and he
he's,
the way,
where he's
the book,
and he
says,
Mattate,
Mattate,
Mattate,
Mattate,
Mattate,
Mattate.
And he
says to
he says,
he's,
he says,
what
What are you? This is I not
I, what are you? And in that
is it, and in this, it's
it's a lot of the
dark. And he says,
you're my. And she
goes to the house. No,
will be to pisar
that house?
They're, they're
going to get
to do sasserdotes,
they're going to
do many things
and passed
almost five
years for
that she
had to
live this type of
success.
So when
me told
that relato in
that moment,
at the
moment
of read it
and to hear it
because me
in part
in audio
it was a
a sensation
spantosa
or it was
like if
you were
like you're
like
to do you
and it's
so hard
that I
had to
do you
have to
the story
because
it was a day
and the
thing
was a
no no no
was a
so much
pesed
and you know,
and you know,
like if
you're stooped
aseching,
like if
there's a
car sandsing.
No,
exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But with a
intention not
good.
Yeah.
So,
so,
that day
we're going to
and when
were in
those stories
was something
like
very perturador
no.
That,
that one of
my questions
for the
question
of santaia
and that
me
me
was
not
I'm
the
difference
between
a
canalization
and a
person
posseid
because
in the
creences
spiritists
that
after
I
know that
I'm
there were
of
the
of the
Spinacio
here in New
Leone and
the
cajitas
and the
pachita
that
one
one thing
are the
chamanes
but
other
things
are
the
other
they
call
can
canal
to
that
a spirit
enter in
and then
so it
is a
communicer to
the person
around.
But in the
moment in
the spirit
enter,
he takes
control of
the
person, and
he says,
then more
to investigate
if this
is the
fact,
or not,
so,
so,
so,
so,
so,
is how it's
the
difference
with a
decision?
My
creence
to day
to day
to
is that
is that
maybe has
to be
with the
type
of entity
that
is
entering. And with the
control
that you
can't get
to get a
or the
level of
subordination
that you
you're going to
turn
to be able to
know.
Of course
taking
the time
the time
of Pachita
I see
to get
that I
think he
was a
emperator
the
Kautem
was the
that was the
Kautemok
was that
was the
but I
feel
a person
that came
with me
one
once
at
podcast
that
his parents
are pastors
and manage
the theme
of deliberations
he says
when you're
when you're
a final
you count
the
the ser or
the entity
possess your
mind
to the
control
absolute
of all
your
extremities
to talk
to say
to move
and
you
you know
you
you're
when you
when you
you
do you
do you
you
to that entity, and that
is very different,
to maybe,
to the thing
of some demonio
that wants to do
other things,
that is the canalization.
So,
it's very different
because,
like, for example,
Pachita,
it was,
it provocable,
me you know,
it was a
invocable,
to do it,
and it was,
to create
that it was
that form.
The theme
of the position
is when you
you perches
completely
the control
of what
is doing
and what
is happening
with your
and you
I mean to
have the auto-destruction
of a certain.
Exactly.
That that was
what he
passed to one of
my ex-imitators
that said
that's going to
after the
final, in extra
this
for the material
of the
exactly when he
was posseed.
That's.
That's.
That's.
Fouartyate
that
I don't know
how was
your
your,
your
your
life.
Or,
or
better,
better.
you can't
the question.
How
was your
now
so you
get this
things,
you've got to
get this
times, you
know your
minded your
fear,
you know,
you're
your
way of
how has
been?
Camiro
my
form of
because,
well,
me passed
what a
many people
let us
can be
that
that we
like
to the
satanism
no?
So I
tried to
see them
in a
form
like
many
people
or practice
like
a
type of
art
like a
practice
like,
like a
religion more
and you
know,
and it's
a form
in how to
talk to
these
things
without
to generate
to
this
environment
or these
sentiments
but
I don't
I'd
that all
that all
that's
that's
when you
do you
know,
it's
when you
know
when you
can't
be
to be
other
to be
to
attack.
But
definitely
exactly
but definitely
but definitely
then,
but it's
it's
a lot of
my perception.
Figgate
that I'm
considered that
the,
the knowledge
is a
great
thing that
that's
a lot of
my
mind,
I mean,
because if it
was a,
you're
you're getting
in the
water's
this,
this termat
is very
dense.
Yeah.
But
there's
there were much
questions
that
went more
with a
perception
that I
had been,
and so
I
changed.
And as
you,
fithet
that
you're
talking about
religions,
of the
fact,
in the
interview
that I'm
in the
this guy in
the
he's not
because he
says,
we're
we're
we're not
these reasons.
And there
the
reasons for
those
if a
a
creency
comple
certain
things,
it's
could consider
a religion.
If
not they
they're
a secta,
then it's
a
secta.
And he
says,
we're
the santa
we're
a
a religion.
The people
the
call it
the
people,
the center of
the
religion.
He is
part of the
religion,
he is
of the religion.
They're
not a
word.
Like,
reaffirma
that no
is a
secta.
And,
well,
as far
what the
what the
little
that I'm
the
if it's
the
requisite
these
because
also
also
Palomayombe
is a
religion,
the Yorub
is a
religion?
The voodoo is
a religion
or not
a religion?
It's a
really
a
also.
It's a religion
also.
Okay.
So,
so for the
people that
we're listening
that's
what you've
been to be
this point.
If you're
to get to this
postify, it's
you're going to
get to be able to
let's see it.
And so much people,
we're going to
talk about the
things that will be
those videos
puttes about
of this figure
of paha
that does
that's been
that's been
much videos
of that's
I'm going to
tell you
some of those videos
yeah
many people
like that
does a
bad bad
to look at
and you
see what
to say
to be
a bit
a first time
I mean
I mean
I'm
doing many
I'm
I don't
I don't
idea
if you're
I'm
something
or is something
that is
false
but
but my
experience
the first
the first
that I
am
sincere
I'm
started
I'm
really
really
of the
really
me
did
like a
mal-star
and I
know how
I'm
I'm going to
think you
I'm
imagine it
you're making
you're
in vocation
to be
a 100%
with a
other
level
even though
I'm
you know
you've
seen
I'm
imagine
and the
people
that people
and the
person
that's
a
movie
of
a
car
you
see
there
there
there
there
he
has
he
has
he
he
has
a
transference
and is the
tendido
the
and with a
hand in the
and the other
he gets to
say
words,
you know,
I'm
met to indigar
narrate.
Really,
really,
really,
they're saying,
yeah,
really,
it's saying
a conjure
of budu,
so,
of the religion
budu,
that's
a manage,
like a
kind of,
like,
I,
I,
I,
when I,
I,
so,
when,
many people
we're doing
that's
kids,
even I've
even I've
seen the
movies
we're like
so it's
really
some orations
so really
areations
in the
thing of the
mother's
that's
that's
that's
that's
that's
that's
I'm
I'm
I'm
I'm
with
I'm
with the
other's
podcast.
That's
that me
he
got to
me blew
the
I
I'm
I
didn't
not
I don't see
that
legendaries.
But Badiah
he saw a
podcast that
called a
school secreta
or something.
And there
I tried a
little
a bit more
a bit more.
So I
heard what Badiah
talked about
about the
magic a chaos
and I
was a
cause.
When it
was talking
when it
was called
a combination
of
fear and
confusion.
Because I
did this
I
did this you
yeah
I
did
it
but
not it
was
someone
explaining
something about
about
a
where
I'm
I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so I'm
so much
I'm
I'm
and I'm
say
what you
know what
I'm going to
you're
talking about
I'm not
a good
if you're
a book that
the scriptural
fantastic
and in the
book, the
story that
they're talking
the person
are all the
questions of
magic chaos,
way.
Here they're
like it's
like it's
like a fiction
but really
are the,
those, are the
confurors,
are the
creences
behind of
many things of
the magic
chaos and
and it
was,
I'm,
what way,
to introduce,
and a lexionar
in an
art,
so,
magic,
esoterica,
a mode
to go.
It's,
it was,
it was like,
so,
no,
no,
so,
if he did
a purpose
to give
to give a
or an
Easterer or
really he
is part of
those creencies
the author
and what he
was like
a group
of people of
a group of
people of
massive.
Yeah,
I mean,
I think it
is inclin
more for that
that
um,
so are
some,
are things
I think
they're
they're doing
they're
with intentions.
With
so,
imagineate
how much
people no
saw the
people
no view
that
I'm
see
I remember that my mom
always
me reagania
like I'm sorry
that I'm at
the middle of
the media
that's a
way to
and get him
and say
all that's
because
it was
really something
something
macabro
when you
when you
when you
started
those
words
and you
I don't
I don't
I don't
I'm
I'm saying
you're
you're
you're
you're
doing
in Voodoo
in actually
they're
they're
they're
the time
like
the chamanism
they're
with
almas
with
spirits
I don't see if you
You were the person
That one of
One of the person
A man
A man, a man
A man who had
A man who had a man
And that had
Almas Atrapas
I'm going
That you were
That was you
That was
There was
Of that
There's the
Of course, I'm
Of course,
I'm in
Almas Atrapadas
Is the
The
In the
In the
hospital
A
A
Averver
That
The, of
Fagate,
the history
says that's
antero,
but me me
sounds like it's
of the
palo majombio
or do you.
It's
that's in
mind that
those who
work on
the spirit.
Well,
I'll
tell you.
Because I
remember if
you're not
I'm sure.
Supposedly
the seguer
told that
that
his tio
was a
chaman
and his
he had
had yet
to live
to his
house for
a time.
She said
that her
had a
quarter and that
prohibited
that were
there,
because he had
some artifacts
like some
little containers
of barro
like,
this,
like,
some,
some,
has a,
has a
name,
even in
various anime
s,
it's when
encapsulan
a
thing,
they're,
they're,
they're
in,
exactly,
like,
like a
type of
same,
so possibly
the chamanes,
they,
they're,
they're
atraped spirits or
almas
human.
So she
says she
says she
had a madrugada
and she
she's
to take a
water.
She goes
to the
escaleras
to pass
to the
kitchen and
she had
to be a
woman
sentada
and she
said,
oh my mom
you
got to
because
the last
she
remember
to go
to do
to her
she's
she's a
little
she she
she'd be
she
with that.
You get to
do to
look at the
hour
what is
he's
he went to
get to
do you know
but the
mother
never to
her
she's up
to the
next
her next
her
his old
he said
oh yeah
if
if you
see
if you
don't you
say
to what
you're
what you
do you
what you
what
was that
was that
a year
a
one
he's
he's
looking
and
he's
here
in the
car
but
it
me escaped.
Resulta
way,
that what she
saw she
was,
wow.
I don't
if you
me to tell
you the
no, no,
for a
no,
for a
but it's
I'm
my,
yeah,
but it's,
yeah,
because the
chamanes
at final
of the
count,
they're
they're
they're
with
spirits
human
with
spirits
human.
With
so
they're
they're
they're
they're
they
they're
they're
they're
they
Macawrissom
I don't
I don't
But fiat
That all this
Romp
With the
With the
When one
So when you
It's going to
It's not
To see a
To say to
To say
I'm saying
I'm going to
Something
When I
When I'm
Innair in
This
The cultures
Latin American
Ascultas
The
Cultures
Of course
Are you
Are there
Are you
Even obscure
I'm
There's
That's
I'm
You know,
you know,
the cultures
of the
Oriental?
The Oriental?
Japan.
No,
they're the
they're
those who
are the
not only
only with
entities,
demonious,
spirits
human.
So,
really,
what we
we're
in,
a
sometimes in
anime,
yamese,
for example,
where
they manage
much
a cultism
that is
Naruto,
uh,
really
are things
that have
done
of the
life
real.
So,
they're
they're
also,
they're
Like the chamanes
They're
like those
Antipules
Even the
The time of
To bring,
as a little
A man
To be a
Murt,
between the
Murtes is
possible
But,
but not is
the soul
The person
That's the
So, if you're
Is it,
Paco,
you're
You're going to
That's
about
Are you
are the
Arellas
Are you?
Al-a,
I'm going to
Yeah,
Because if
you're just
I'm doing
I accept
the
Retto.
All
the video
your, if this video
that we're
doing a good
support,
you put it a
number.
You putle a number.
Do you putle a number.
Of the likes or the views?
No,
that's your
audience.
You know what is
what is what you
to get to
give to?
But if you
put the
if we get us
to,
fissionse,
the videos
normally
have been
in between
seven to
seven to
ten thousand
all month
and there
is going
is growing.
If we get
to my
likes,
my likes is
probably,
very,
very,
very, very
probably.
If we
get us to
my likes
in this
video,
we get them
to get into
the time
to these
religions
orientalers,
and we
do we
do this
special with
Paco Ares
of podcast
extra normal.
What is
Paco?
You know,
I'm like,
it's something
that's a
lot of
the pen
to put
to the
point,
but
I accept
the
reto
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, what's
What kind of?
What's the form of
Yeah, because
I'm a lot
I'm a lot
respect to slash
a little
of temor
also those
religions oriental
the Taoism,
the Shintoism
and well,
there are many
more, for no
some of
more, so
so I'm sorry,
so I'm
also I'm
know that in
those endow
and others
totally with
an ideal
lexionator
no?
There's a
first of
the theme
narrator?
I've seen
Naruto
I mean I did
know,
the
there's the
there's the
practice
of when invoked
a parca.
Oh,
for sure.
The shingamis.
Exactly.
The shimigami
which are the
gods of the
death,
that the
practice when
you bring to
someone
to get to
the people
and you
and basically
you know,
of their
power.
So it's
a practice
very
realist
that manage
certain
cultures
of Japan,
of China.
It's
something
very
man.
Of the
actually,
there are videos
that's
filtered
in internet
but
I don't
see,
I mean,
they're
there's
there's
some
video that
is up
because YouTube
has
in their
algorithm
that a
video that
is infringing
can be
on
the air
for a
minute
so.
So,
there is
there is a
hack,
that they
can be
in
TikTok
to
to be
to be
but
but I
don't
not is
very
recommendable
to
do it
If they're
there's
There are forms
There are forms
There are
There are
They're always
They're very
They're very
Maccabular
I'm very macabrous
I'm in
I'm sorry
They're
They're
Maccabro
Yeah when
I
When I
I'm
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
They're
Yeah
So,
So,
So,
without
Cair
in ultra
Detaches
What is
what
What's
What's
In those
We
We're
We're
the other people
human,
basically,
that they
they're
from the
attaute.
Okay.
So,
it's very
explicit.
So,
really,
it's really
really strong.
And the
thing to
the video is
that
that's the
body is
to move.
Okay,
the
body's
to start.
Or
you're talking
of zombies,
of
so,
or no?
Yeah,
so,
something,
something
similar.
Okay.
There have
some
that's
been
that,
I don't know
if they're real
or they're
fake,
but those
I got to
have a way
way of
these videos
when they're
when they're
when they're
they're doing
a time
and they
and they're
them.
So,
I mean
me took
to be one
just,
and I
do you know,
I mean,
I know,
no,
no,
no,
it's still,
it's,
it's interesting,
but no,
no,
I recommend
that they're
not the
no,
I'm
I'll just be able to look
If I'm going to look at
If someone will get to
Look at look at
And I'm
I'm going to
But I don't know
I'm going to
I prefer my
Paz mental
And I think
That's if
is going to be
something very
Very good
Yes,
So,
very dear
Dear Family
Nocturna
With this
we've got
to terminate
the episode
Recurred
In this
moment
we're the
part
that is
Abietal
the public
In the
Membresi
We have
the
membership in the
one
you can't
see the
videos but
without
any one
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also
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there's
the membercy
where
there's
in the
material ined
that
we have
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the episode
40 and
41
about
45
minutes
extra
of
material
that
not
is
that
and
the
membersia
and
the
investigators
to
those
those
I'm
to start
to
give
to
those
we
get
to
final
to
the
one of the
things
very
a
profound
so
we
We've got to
this episode.
For
favor,
commenten us
and helpen
to get to
the 10 likes
to get to
these religions
orientals.
And Pac,
something with what
you want to
do you want to
do you
the audience?
No,
man,
so much
thanks.
Thank you.
For the
invitation.
The fact
to be
to talk about
to what
no exist.
It's
a man a
great
a brazo,
a
salute to
all the
family
nocturna.
And,
we,
we're not,
we're
and come
the
the RETo,
because
the truth
is that
we're
in
that material
that I mean,
the truth,
is very delicate
but,
you know,
here we're
doing the
RETO.
Yes,
yes,
that's,
that's,
that's,
that's the
net is
that if
not we
get us to the
$0,000,
I don't
be,
I'd,
me,
they'd
be a lot,
so is that,
so,
so we get
good,
but,
well,
and if
we're
we're getting,
thanks.
So,
so,
so,
Paco,
you know,
you know,
the
doors
abertas
and we're
pretty to
see a
podcast extranormal
and tell us
what you're
about the
first of the
idea of
your name
a podcast in
that's
we're going to
put up to
a little
talking about
about this
about this
but well
we're
a family
nocturna
a
last I'm
a
good a
time
and I
want a
good
good
funer
and
I'm
bye
bye
