HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP 043 - casa de los tubos y la casa de aramberry con ALEX VILLANEW

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

EP 043 - casa de los tubos y la casa de aramberry con ALEX VILLANEWHoy en "Hablemos de lo que no existe" nos acompaña en el estudio Alejandro Villanueva, que nos comparte sus investigaciones acerca de la casa de Los Tubos, la LLorona y La Casa de Arramberri.El Narrador como es costumbre, tiene su propia agenda, varias historias y muchas preguntas.Disfruta el episodio y recuerda, si te gusta el canal, recomiendanos a quien más confianza le tengas

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that's part about the time. I imagine that you have passed with the podcast. A more more

about the technical, you know, you've been doing that's a that's not, you know, you're not

you know, you know, you know, you're doing the talk and see the and see the content,

that is what what you do you do you exactly. As well, what you is,

is a process evolution that sometimes the person I mean, I'm going to this side, we know what

we're, but the people that are the people who are not quite a thing. Look, last one time

we've been to the en-vibos. So, then I'm going to explain what I'm going to to be front of the time.

I'm trying to those all the other ways. I'm, I'm going to know what you're not you're saying

to what is the thing you what is the thing? What is the thing? You're the part of the

and, to you're in a certain So, because you're going to because you're a moment

in the time you you know, you know, you know, you're you know, you're going to you're at a

time of the thing you're going to be a lot of things, not you're going to do you're going to be the essential, is the start

the essence of the program but coincide. Yeah, this, even, something that me, that's a lot

he's just a lot he doesn't, entretem me, no, no, it's not, you're is a

of that you have some the problems at the a lot of a lot of a lot of

it's a I'm a story of talk about it about this talk about the technical or the creation

of the content in the we could we do we're going to do that we're not a time yeah

very well this what history you're I've got I'm I'm I'm gonna

I'm you know you're you're you know you're you're so much

dangerous? Yes. The time that was 2010-11. 10-11, exactly. This story that I'm going to

tell you're going to a story that's a story of a but contemporary and a bit more macabre. That's so me made a minute, my God.

This is this time? You know, you know, that's in that time? From there, from there,

from there, from it's, to know, the person here in that this time,

there was a situation very violent to the point in that the city had had been

with that for all of things. For all it was normal. Valacera's blockos

of the streets. It really was a situation that was like if were in

a type of a civil or something very very very very

very in special there there areas so that

there have been in colonies fantas and I

took so so situations of I had to

and you saw you're and you see those and you're like if were just

they're just but there a detail that said that they're that they're in the contraids in

the casets there had even plantas that had had grown and the and the

crystals and if present you present attention in the constructions they

they were they they had safado and they had cuted things

they had got Juarez in this time was a one that was a

one of the was a expansion enormous that was a lot of and they were there were the different

that were you top about with the new and abandoneded for complete locales in renta

that had all his things that was all inrejado and they were in marcas very

strange that you know you were that you was a that you It took to be

to be to be a first person of the first person, when I know, when I'm,

I don't remember exactly if it was for the podcast or in my investigation

me top with this story, because it just at the first the first stories that

I found I. And he said that he was working in those times.

He hallable of two things, Albaonil and Elbae day at the

he was going to build a construction of a fractionation. And then he was to keep up to because I was it too much that he'd come in a billet and he said that's he said that one day, he gotro the jar. He went to, he went to a lot of bottle, she was to come to a lot of the house of the enfranchise. When hebrose, He gets dormied and then he he's

a moment, and see that there somebs in the patio. Are sombras and that

are moving like on another, like if they're coming in the patio at the

extreme to and he he think that they're, you know we're he does

much fear. He's he he be the hebrae and

he gets to move surta and he and rose afwara, no

no sound. And every are more and more sombras. He's a sombre. He's all the sombers

are going to the periferia and signaled the piece of the patio. He's left the blood because

they're a person, so sombras, not more. Some, sombras oscuras that are

moving and then he want to hear, but no want to alert to that he's

that he's that they're like if If I was going a movie, I just just they're

doing a little a whole of all the whole. Total, the type

of a way, he's to get to get to go and the time, abandon the

time. And at two months appears a reportage in a

fos where they've found more of four four that

that's specifically in that party. And he said when I did that I

did see that the thing that was a real. So,

it was a story super very really there no there no there's

not there they're in they were and perforated and they went to go to go to go to

go to abandonas yeah yeah some one of four quadras yeah

when I was when I started to do those blocks no I don't I don't

I'm I'm remember how it's the the colony the Columbia

I I I want to I did I tried the pedd of the exploration very of photography,

very, very, very, very, for a colony abandoned or, like you know, a medium,

to build, yeah, yeah, yeah, that were, they're in funavit, all,

like, like, of two-asas, but I really much the attention in the own,

the own da so it was a day, he was going to go to know because he was also, but Tonyo

came to get to time. It's, were in those, it's quite And thenprano, we're going to go to night. So, we're going to go to next.

And so, what I mean? So we went to, I went to my GoPro, still not very expert on blocks, and we did, I was trying to masticling. So, I'm nervous. In fact, in my video, much people said, jean, that's heard that you hear of my masticard of the chicle.

Okay. So, we met him. We went to, we went to one side that not were, and then we went to, and we went, I was there I was I was doing. I in the personal I didn't know I saw my lamp

and my camera no I saw many people in the people say that's you can't see that but I'm

like that's so I'm when we're saying Alex, Ben, oh, come gourdito no I'm

like that I'm gonna I'm gonna see, I'm like a bato I'm gonna go over a man,

I go, go, it's a go, go, we're gonna, we're gonna we're gonna

but it's but no so it's a but it's a but it's a that's a I don't exist. He's, no,

well, it's a bachal and he's a bachal and that's in the video in the video in the video see the expression

where in really is a sustat where he's where he's so he's so he got so he's

he's got I'm not I'm we're going to we're going to let's get us we're doing here or if we're just

we're just we're just I'm sure that I'm that I'm doing the video and I've

got to that's escaleras, you were you see a form of caracol and if you see you

like it's like a way it's like a little the house of the tub I don't so we're

so we're not we don't we know we're not the fact that's all the night

you're only you're only you're looking you're you're looking

that you're that's that's okay and that's he said the something

said the said the said the that's the that's he was going to get where

where I it's the only that me says. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that just right.

This video is still still. Yeah, yeah, it's there in your channel, how's it? Explorando Colony Abandonada,

I think I, or Barrio abandoned, Colony Abandoned, Alejandro Villan Mammannes, there's, okay,

here we're to leave the channels at the end, or it's going to be in the description of

the video for that go and they're and they they're a story, no,

I remember of the and not I'm going to just on that phenomenon, that's, that not is that's an

habitual, that's, so that's, a little bit, it's a little a somber. And it was, but now

now, now, that's the stuff, so, enterraband, but this never saw,

never saw, they're, they're all around. Now, it's not more for , just,

really the story is spantosa, so, and that after they there were people there,

you know, this is, this is horrible, no? The sombra out of the The sombra out of the

there's a what's what's a type of or something or something that's it's called

or it is called the chas heard some you've seen many people

in paralysis of the so I've written but this I'm talking

about in all the world not not persons that people can they're

they're sometimes in the state of paralysis, have documented that what have

been to have a man has a woman who's a man of the sombreveyor a gabardina has a cigar

or the cigar the cigar, the one is the yamah and it doesn't feel the aroma. No, me

has to happen one of a aroma, but if I'm took two, that the person out of the

court, be the umo out of the door and think it's incendiating and when

the other person can get to start to the part of the

that entity, it's a subon, or as a it's a not they're, I know, not they're

not really, and there's a person in Monterey, that has been the case more aterrador

that I've been told that I have been being by various casas. It's

had been to be going to the case is the problem, so that's the problem is to be,

they're, they're going to see, the sombre in different times. The story, that this chica is

invited but has been very difficult that it's been for the situations very delicate. The story of the last point, the ultimate

actualization that I'm, is that the sombra so it's a circle to take it. And the

sensation, the sensation, she's getting a lot of, because I'm doing it like something like this.

Horrible. Like those who have they're talking of that. She's not more has done that.

And then after that things have put a lot. So, is that you are being welcome.

I'm going to I'm there's a lot of things are you. And so it was an episode special. Alejandro,

I thank you very much to have been here. It's too good. It's good. There's a place and I

go ahead. I'm going to like things that's what I'm that's been that's I've been

to get over and rasked to stifol leon. He's he's good. That's

good. That's so so that's so yeah for that yeah that's yeah

I'm like you I've been I've 331 years, I'm going to You know.

You're going to I'm going to work a lot of the time. I mean, you know, a phoenix, like, like a person transparent or

kind of a blackosa, okay, okay, okay, I'm going to ask, I'm going to ask, I'm going to be a somber, but I'm going to ask.

The first chaba that came here is a person that I know from before many years and when

I started the person if they were a question, she said, she didn't know, you know what you know

what you're know, and I'm known for all the colony. My house is enbrugated. And I'm

but like... But you do you presuming Yeah, no, yeah, when you know,

when you came here, the stories and the stuff, it was the part is the is the

orgue but yeah to narrar details was spantos and one of the things

that was that was a people. And is that I I was there, in fact, we did, we did the exploration of the house, and if the house, first it was normal, but conform we were going to narrating, and so I was reading the

quarters, it was very rare, because there's a suggestion, and there's a question, and there's a suggestion, and there's a suggestion, because we're attacked to the release, but the atmosphere, it was being pesada. So, of a sudden, to go ahead, to get to, that I decided,

that cut them. There was, there, if, if, if, if, si, the next you guys and the thing to pass a thing of things,

that's that they were not they were not over. Yes, it was a little they've

they were to turn the and they started and they're to get to not a year ago,

because they were things. But the situation that I did you is the patio

is a partio, it's a very great a bad suorpeas to a silhouette exactly different

to be in the palapap and she agachable. But so, blankicina, like we're... Oscura.

But it was a yeah, the cabello all the whole, they were like a little kind of a

little bit of the same, and getting to the same point, he was a bigger's a little bit of

a drama. So, so they're in the patio. We're just playing a problem, and the other

person was to be a second piece or or the person was in the person,

and she he was to be a day, out of the patio, and the Patio is

a So, so, he's to say to the people that's if a

person, he had happened to them. So, that I'm, I have the

video of the exploration, so I'm going to go, sovolo. There are

there's there. And I'm and you're about the description of the Yorona.

Incluso, I'm also also also also, so right so right so right

so right so right so we're about approximately at the initial of the

16, a bonita young of the rassos indigens, he enamored of a man

he also he also he was enamored of the d'am and rapidly he said

he said he was to be he was after the mother the

mother she had long longs of time only in the

house was he was a diplomatical and had to acud to his

reunions only. But, in times in that there were in

there were the time, pass the days, when were times of any

celebrations, pass the times. After the the couple,

he was two three hermosos children, and all was

a family, but in some months, the usencia of the

man every was more longer and continued. They were in the way that

she was to be his wife and the wife a woman of a old

society. At enter herself, she sego furtement of the odio and

of a vengeance. What is what what more he does, what is

what is what is the more corriending to the or the river Deskoko and hevades

to the three kids. Getting to the river took the most the three

he took to the and he submerged almost the middle of the

water in the while he he was he he took to

he he and a few to the little he

he's he to move further he did the same with the other two

children. Inmediately after to have sogated, his mirabro the lucid

and recobro the unpotent, and the acts that he had made, and grottosame, with a

voice so that aguda that was that in that in any moment ever to

run per se. The the labrimas not they were in the eyes.

After of this he went to the most profound of the

river and he suicide. Days after the the

body was found by a little to not

to the family of the oxisa decided decide

to give a Christian Sepul a part of

this the Yorona abandoning the tomb to the third day, and, of therein in the end of the people heard, I'd know each

after night, the lamentos of this woman, and never obtain consoled. Oh, my two. That's the

first versioncita, the first story that I found I the next. The next is a version I think is the

most different to all the I've found and I think is the antecedent more the Yorona.

So, so we'll see pass us. The antecedent the last known to the Yorona. It has

its roots in the mythology Azteca. A version says that the Yorona is the

Diocautl Mugher Serpient Protector of the Rasa. It's that before the conquest,

a woman bestied of black came to start to the Rue Texcoco. There's

repeat. A vagar for the colinas, atemortisant to the city, which is the city where

were in the Aztecas. Yes. The most antiques Aztecas they're that the

apparition of the Dioca would be to announce the the empire of

the land to the men of the men that the one

once consummated the the time, years more later

after the Marina, more known as a Malinche, that was a a woman

a young Azteca that's a man of the manned of the conquist her name

she said that she was the Yorona that was that was to be to have tried to

the indians of their and for having helped to have to be to get

to that he that's that is the version is the that the malinche

that the malinche that she tortura for for For having trai-onado.

That me Suna more more mentira but I don't know if someone yeah he has heard of the person or

where this is the Yeah, yeah, it's a little to the one of the one of

some shirrills there to talk. Quenta the legend that has many years in the

time of the the first you a woman was Susanna her was Susanna,

the father Susanna was a noble Spanish with the whole

he was he was he never he never he never he every

he said he was he desentendendia of the noble was Santiago Santiago

no he was because he was aborgonz because he aborgonzable so he

decided his life apart and decided castarse with other woman

what that of the ira and the fury of Susanna. There

a little in the second. Finally, it was the day of the wedding

of another woman not a woman. It was then. She was

a newvia and with belo black appeared Susana making to say to

her her her her she was a arraso and he and he

was a puñal a one was necessary in the spalda to

Santiago, to be to runcar the life and disquita his fury and disquit

his abandon. The desperation and the odio of Susanna did you were to goger

in an arrake of the locust he rebat the alient to his

his children. After the the life, he a part of there he's

that she says that Susanna divagate for rios and the because the

fault of having assassinated to his children not he's

not he's he's she says that if the jorona encounter

a name or he's not a lot of the thing. The fact is

that the Yorona is part of the tradition Mexican that It will

It will Until that we Lethem to talk. Oh, my my son

These are these authors Diary of Zapotland I really good It's different It's distinct

It's distinct The I'm I've got some mantises of this story It's of

It's de Homenes In this house In over Gris We can We're

We're We're a architecture a kind extrana, eh,

yeah that from the part of the part of the area of the same, and for

the part of the structure is very similar. The passillos are in form

cylindrical and it has a grand quantity of rampas, while

that the other side there's many stairs to get to the

different. Although the the quarters are of a same

and it's that in this house is you're yantos

of a woman young for the night. All like you see in

different sombras of a presence feminine in this house. They

can't different stories that are not people in the

little a little and a young of a woman of

a young that is a one of the house

that some day pretend a one the window. Of this

case, C, count in different versions. The most common is the same. And is the

I'm a little more more to... Sure, the that was carnita. You know, more.

Yeah, well, yeah, well. Come back, us, we're going, it was the

legend of the house of the tubus. It was the decade of the 70. A.

father and his only his only little had had given to Montereyrey,

New Leon. To to build a life together. Pock was a past

and of what had had taken, and of what was had taken to the place.

And the intuia that only they were one or one

a detail. An detail important of this story is that

the was that she was not had no, no, and it was

completely of his seat of and of people that was

that that definitively to change his lives. I want my daughter

could go to the house and he said the father

to the engineer. I'm sure that I'm going to do you

know, quite, of course, I can't be a idea of what could

be a good to be a let me say, I'm, I'm,

I'm that it's that all the structure had rampas

for that the nina no have problems to go to one and the other and how

it would be a construction that would be a like you with a tubus would be

something like a house a house a more a more

it would be more more more for that the that not

that and with great ventanals that you and you

and she and appreciate the the That is what we need us Well, no

We need more We can start As far as Sure my Ja She'll be Fondra and contented

Passed Semanas And then After months After a Once a To get to The structure

Of a A grand Casa In a Terreno Valdi The The

The After The After The Sun It was Abandoned Forcom

That You've Aparently The It's a drama family very beautiful. I think

that's where it's where it's where it's a really to get to get a

lot of the situation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing that I'm going

to tell you a story like if was a person that was a person that was a

so it was a person that was to be to the internet to

to come to the house. So, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, let me come, let's Venga, for Hello. Hello. I'm sorry.

Well, I'm not I'm going to I'm a good time. I'm a man of 50 and many people.

My name no important so my story, that in brief, I'll say I'm

to be. Normally not I know the more than my people, but

me serve to catarsis. It's so far of 20 years that's that

me succeeded what nobody could be living. In that I lived a life

a little wife and my little and my son't we're a house to be

a good level because my post me it was we

we've we've seen many of the area metropolitan

of Monterey and none none no none no

I'm to my and my spouse. Yeah of our house

rentada in the colony near the pastor of a curva when, when at

when all past by the church, the church in the country, in the city of

Guadupe we've seen a house something in Obris and still that we called the

attention in O'Ris still and we called the attention and we decided we

to go to get to get to getting to she came to it was that we were

we're we're the and we decided to communicate us to make a and ask for the house. Me attended,

via telephonic a man yeah grand, or so I'm made it. His voice denotable canstancey. At final,

pacted a set for the Marches. It was so we're a second the fecha convened.

Gereo the Fech and we were my wife, my little, his,

and I. We top We were with a man relatively young, almost, but he was tired and abegentated.

No, I wanted to question. I thought it was a education. Yeah, after the

presentation, we went direct to the grano, see the house for and question,

costos and and the right we're we're we're

we're that the exterior of the house not compared to the extrano of the interior,

what was the way the was made more mysterious. Well, they were quarters

with and the hallis circular escalers for here, by

there, was the plantas, but the plant more was

in reality the the first two were in the

caros in the caros architectonick a house. The We said that a man

very very happy, her spouse and her his wife, that's graciously was lique and in sierra

of ruedas, they're in a house a dock for her, where she was not the same

and for this and the form of the same, but there's a tragedy in the

second visit of the house, the the new the woman

disconocid took a accident and he the news, I did know that my

my little not was to not my side, I'm in the my wife

and I'm he he said he a minute he was there was a

all the but it and when we're a ventanal inconclusive as was in

really all the house was there was there there

and I'm saying something I'm I'm I'm not I'm

not no no it to us, but he said to us, supposedly to his

side. And, he meo and he said, he said, we're doing, he made, and he said, he did a lot,

for what he, for what he said for what he said, for the forces with what he He he's alto, we We got ushercamos Weptainal

Maldito and we've our little in the rockas of the rockas of the hill in the

house. We're going with him and we're and we're desperable so, we know the

ambulance but he he had gone. And we could we could not that in

his spaldita had some marks some marks of the ones that were

with that was that the margin rogo. That he said that he had seen and he had been

and seen something before a start of the death. His sepalio was very

very very I tried to support and to sustain to my husband that came

in a depression immense that he he was six months after the

part of my baby. No he put more and he he's cuted

the venas in our house in the to work, desangrared with the face,

Triste. I was in depression, I think in the suicide many times, but I co-cobarded and only

could see a my wife and my baby and I invadia the soledity, the soledity, the

and the cora. Pocopo after I was over that house maldita in Obris.

I knew that they called the house of the tubes for their form and the tubus

that conforman and that had been a little, that that was

that man, that in reality, that in really was, he was, he was

a father had fallen for some reason a other a malachial

and a master of my master. I dole remember every that I pass

for there, my my rostro and me look at the little

to the little and a a little in Cia of Ruedas a little saying me, Adios. That's

sure. Chanchon. Yacia the year 1933. A family of the villa of General

Suasua of New York Vendary to all his vienes to be so to be

so forth the life was made the family was a family

of 54 years of the two accompanied of his of just 19 years.

The family could be a little fortune and acquired a house. Nothing mysterious supermently

normal in the Cray-Aramberry Ramberry number 1026 in the first quadro of the city, today,

known as a new, no, I don't know, not just in the barrio but is very,

very very close. It's where where the Dufino did make

to get to be to do a place of work in the famous

funder of Monterey, New Orleans that was the other redituable and great of all Mexico.

Yeah. There are many stories there. There are many stories of there. There were

there that there were there were many accidents, there was the time of revolution

and a fundidora has a there's there's there where there

where he was a where after, and apart after after after,

despite after, despite, despite, after, after, family, still

there's a money, that astutamente decided to work out of this, I'm not quite

because they're absolutely, but it's obvious, no existian the bankos in the time.

The people were not their money in coffres about the down. Dentro of the conchon,

they wereos in the parades. Yes, the emperidated that tombabed houses,

casas antivus and they were and they were from the people

were where the is real, it's for that they in her house-to-

all it was to work relatively well until a day it was

a much here a different of the house of the of the

public there what what was in the house, in part

was real but the story also has been also a

little different and the majority coincide in the final the

last you the last you a madrugada. Some stories say at the

six of the morning. His husband Antonia was and he

gave his good and he did not in some versions

said that the year was years working that not

had had had not that not that not

not not got not she and Florida of

19 years still still still don't Delphino, no imaginable

what would be in some stories narrate that Florainda and Antonia they were ready to go to go to

then Delphino well is that I put to a pageer to a M., then a maybe a yeah, so

yeah, so he he was up time apart I was, I'm it was I'm so

it's like to come so that's that's it's there they're other times yeah

it's I'm not I'm don't know that After maybe. After the When Delphino

was to his home, Antonio heard of his door to come to comeabble

to receive the visit. Then, after the when Delphino would get to the house.

But that day there was something did a receive to do you? Like

all the days. Also, there had gots of the house. The more

he was the Spos A. Tonya was recosted with the

mento and the coo and the young she was a was narrated for all the

periodical of the time, it was very the attention for his naturalness sangienta

of the crime. How you see? I don't go, but we'll continue us after. After the

after those investigations, it determined that the ladrons that, ah, if not

he had told us that too, the money, the fortune. It had determined that the ladrones

and assassins took access free to the case, so that they

were house, not forced. And that was very possible that Antonia

knew to his victim aries. So, so the bados that they know,

they were the people were those they were the this is this did a foot

to the people were the familyaries and the same don delfino

was great suspect. It's said that one of the encargations

called Ines Gonzalels not he noticed of the and that were that were the racters of

the racemones when they were the same. The gots of the lot of the same a carnisserie

a carnisserie a carnisserie and Emeterio Gonzalez. Ambos were detained for the evidences

that there in their contra of these Cherlop Homs Mexican Regimontans of the

30 that they were the gotitos of the that they'd like a

way of mingachas to makeas to the pan to the assesines. Okay.

Ojo and data of vital importance. The data of vital importance and of more

a more a good to do that I'm the word to I'm going to do you. In

some versions us in some that the family of the affected had a

lot. Ah, a car. A, to repeat the last

words that I've heard. In many stories we're

that when the investigators were doing the peritage merently

professional the loro grittable. One No, me Mates,

Gabriel, for favor, no me matts. Or two. Gabriel,

Dill me Maten, for favor, Gabriel, Dill is that no

me matting. Well, Gabriel and Kethel in the interrogatorios, when

enterarse that the family The interrogatories Point, all enterarse that the family had a small

fortune in monedas in monedas to buy the house but they needed and they're

not very good in the parkour the tachos of the tachos were very altos

they said they're very very altos for what I said there's much

cold the the temperatures like Gabriel and Emeterio not good

escalando techos the most intelligent that if they were that's

they were to the house. But as they were they were not they were so they're

to do they're to do they're to do they and they're and to do they're and then this no has

much sense because even as they're they're to part they have to parted

the botin between more people. Yes, a level logical no

apply. But well but at final the only people were the only the

people were the Right. He's a... A little bit of a turka. No, no, no, no. But right, right,

it's part of that. See, that the history of there's a story of an serial, I don't record right at what

in the States, that he's they're in a little bit for a and it's that's just what is?

No, but, so, so, so, I put the data of vital importance,

because if I really, the two, the two, the lot of the door, that did the number,

no memats, and the You get directly to the carniseria? Oh, yeah, yeah,

they're, they're like, or they sound as cabellated, no? I'm, they're

they're I'm doing the versions that's that's time, and that people

and that people, yeah, yeah, and well, also, not was, I mean,

was a, so, not perfectionated as day to day of today, not in

into many times that they're not obvious as so obvious type of

manipulation. of mediatica. Manipulation mediatica. So, that they metian mass carnita to maintain to the people

to... It's a novel and you know, now what we've got to these suspects and you're going to the news.

And there's the people waiting to be saying they they were they're making deskavilled but the

people in that time so it's she's the okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm,

we'll, we'll, we'll come to the case that's to tell you a notice there

to make to make a to all the people occupied while the other is madre

or the while he's not more a person in the fund it's true it's true because in this

time the accidents there were in the explosion of the or not I think it was the last before the

time of the many things there's there's well contacted to Eleodoro and

Fernando Montemeyor that were friends of the family who were they were

some two two were you're they were you were

they were they were to robes his family and they were the entry the same.

The team of four bandied and they didn't have so it was not that

they needed that they contacted a time to a little to help him to help us

that also didn't much sense because and then they're

they're they're they're to have to have got to the

botin now between the plan was a simple. Eleodoro and Fernando

will turner in the door for that the women are opener. Gabriel and Emeterio someterion to meeterian to the money and the things that were to have been of value. So, of the same to do

do much pedo, without all Monterrey's enter. Fernando took the door and the senior Antonia opened because he saw a subrino. In that the pair of

carnicero's they submitted and they were in the room, where was a little dormied florinda.

In some stories he said that Gabriel one of the carnissers intented violer her

while the other but the people were the people were much resistance putiering

nervous to the men and they're remet against them they were so they put

so they were so they they they passed the manita Gabriel de Goja a young

While the primos She kept with a mirabot Autonita So what? What are you? Why are you? And the grits of the senior

Antonia, that also was assassinated in a manner cruel She was She said Howe was

her own with her own own the lives of both women's Those four delinquents They were Discutient

They were They were They were they're They were The arnoldinaina Arriva and one did great, they took the

money, and they were with that so it was better because so not they were identifications

those they were they were the house and the men were to get to the carnissors

got to a new a new with the but in the time they were discovered.

We don't know if for the wheyes or for the perico but those Okay.

Gabriel confessed how planned the robo and peined of his complices and peined about his

complices over the people. The society Regio Montana of the time pedia

a castigio for the assassins that I imagine were being enoged

by the bombardeo of the notices and the media of the media

the regios of the years there justice and that castigara to the infernales

assassins. They were prisoners. They were in the penitentiary Loma of the Santa Cruz in

Suasua New York. Result it that casually for a disquid of the guards

the the assesinous not says if all just the carnisseros they

were able but in those times there was a law that was

a lay the law fugue that the guardiers to the convictors

that were to give to the fugites and the those those those

the were abatios. Okay. Then his their were

presented to call the exigencies of the justice of

the people Regimontano and he was the circumstances

that where Elfino did extortion to the guard

of the penal for they they to these to

these people to for that Asesina. Okay. The time passed and the

house was abandoned and in ruin. No, I'm going to go to go to what was after this

story. I know how you had, you know, this, what was I was, I was going to

the law fugia, but I had understood, in the version that I've got, that they

they, they, they were, so, no, that they were to get to to escape,

but they said, O'Rely, wiyan, and it was to turn to them. And that's they're sentencealed to a

murder, then you know, I've heard of the way of the way of the fugue, but no

it's much sense to that you sentencing a death of death of no, no, no, that

that's how, how it did it? Fusinement. Fusillation yeah, yeah,

chuped faros, you know, yeah, chuped faros, no, a bit, where, when,

when, when they they said, what is your last desire. So, so they're

some faros. Some faros were some some cigarrillo to get a carop to you're in the cigar to get a guy

yeah, chupo pharas. Wow, no me and I'm and so those faros if those

know, if those I'm like, yeah, yeah, you know, I'm just you

just with a doubt here? It's the law fugue, is the question of

the carcel? The law fugue is, you give a police, to the cellars

if they're going to, to be able to them get to get them to get them to be able to get them

to get them to get them that's the law. The law fugue the these quats

get them those four those four are very very managed the situation and for so I

said that much people said that the Don Delphino the the man was the the guy

let them to get them to get them Like, Yeah, so. It's a lot. It's a lot.

The people were getting a lot of pressure to the government that they'd Yeah, I'm better, quitate

of pedos and eliminate them. Yeah, and in that time the those, those are, not,

they're not, they're not, they're something, okay, that's a good story, good story,

so. So, is what what's the time passed, and the time passed, and the

time and the house they'd like you. Then they'd get in, and then they'd, they'd gore and then they'd

get rid of excess. So, you know, they'd have any any type of blocker to enter. That's all the sense and that they'd say

and that's all the part of the area that's a barontyo that's a of the and vows,

vows, and via nocturna. And, and then they were pedi or under influence of any

kind of under the pedas and that no existia the internet had to Entreteners, metiolm, and more myth to the

Casa Paranormal. Much people said that in the night she could hear lamentos of the women, and other people indicated that the spirits were rounding for the dark. The house of Aramberry, for being a manchewricks, for

a place manchewruched of the country, practice echiceria and cults pagans. He commenced to take that place as a adoration and practices of brokery that they'd accrecented the mytho

that in this place were seen aspectros and demonious. The house was a grand center touristic and point clave for the

investigators paranormal. It's said that the people of the other had visited guided by

the house a change of money. This called the attention of the authorities and made to

blocker the house with blocks and So, I mean, I put a parenthesis. So, a brokerya, X, people druging to X, that the residents do you guys,

do you know, visitas, cobriending, there's a problem. Yeah, it's a problem. The place was covered by a murro of concrete,

I think that's that all is the maya of metal, but the morbo of the personas is more than

more than that more than the world, they'd were, they'd burlars these

barriers and introduce to form habitual to curiocear and practice magic negative.

Okay. Studies recent, not know for who but recent, they say

that at the house, you can't see, changes of temperature, a vibra

very pesable, suffocation, and a badon depression, apart that allores

naucuabund and somras aseching in those sucions rincones. The

the truth only can know, I'm a little to let's see let's see let's see the

last little to get it for not to the mood a minute. a excuse me right you're

the right you're the story of my compa ulyces thank thank you

studies research recently so that one investigators that one's that

when they were trying to the car got got got

obtained an psychophonia in where you'd hear a voice that said,

no me matts, I mean, the same, the same that's the thing. Although this,

so, no it's not because it's supposed that Gabriel no he was

only a Fernando and Leonardo and he know, they were not they're not the

name of Gabriel, the canisero. In the actuality the place, the place

is in ruin and the rest of the house are

the and gastados that's the construction. But still there, but still there, and the valiantes

that are ventured to discover their secrets, and findarse with the spirits errantes of Florinda and Antonio.

Or, something more. One that's here, one that was of, some, of those

games that had their, uh, yeah, but I'm, I mean, I, I,

I was saying it, I'm, I'm, I'm in problems I'm in problems, I'm No, no. Reckos,

Cesaramo. Yeah. I mean, I think rape. If you're in the madre in the... Okay.

All right? Yeah. This, you, it's, you know, but you get to get to,

but you then you feel like something something. No, like, something I'm going to

dole a little, me arde a little. Okay, it, it's, it's,

the lack of of the a little more of a little bit more in the other than the

two is to relax the the spalda the back, the back, and the because the larynge

and the paringhe are imitando the tensions that you have in other zones of your

so much we're very clavos tend to send them to do some yeah and I

am very tense fickate yeah I've had various with

with with with things that that I'm that's that's

that's I'm I'm trying I'm trying I'm I'm like, I'm put the relation

is the material with the material with the physical being a alerted so so

yeah and see like my podcast is of a hour and I rented

so the hour complete I'm I need to I need to make so

so normally it's normally it's blah la blah for that so I'm so that

my conscience I need to I need to end chinked yeah So, so,

I'm so much they're also. I'm going to also, I need to and I'm,

I need to, and I'm going to be the post-block that I'm, I'm, yeah, no,

I'm relaxes and I'm really, and I'm so I'm so I'm now, I'm like,

I'm gonna get a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,