HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP 059 SOMBRAS, POLTERGEIST Y DOPPELGANGER | SAGA DE LAS SOMBRAS | FT. CLAUDIA PEREZ

Episode Date: January 30, 2023

Hola FAMILIA NOCTURNA, el día de hoy en HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE les traemos el EP 059 SOMBRAS, POLTERGEIST Y DOPPELGANGER | SAGA DE LAS SOMBRAS | FT. CLAUDIA PEREZCon la participación de una integrante de la familia nocturna Claudia Pérez, quien desde Colombia nos cuenta sus escalofriantes experiencias paranormales | SOMBRAS en lugares históricos | evidencia fotográfica | sucesos familiares relacionados a brujería | avistamientos doppelganger | poltergeist y mucho más en este episodio| en donde nuestro narrador| nos cuenta historias que te erizarán la piel | acerca de sueños lúcidos | que se convierten en pesadillas de terror | y claro que no pueden faltar historias | del hombre del sombrero| en esta SAGA DE LAS SOMBRAS. Si llegaste hasta acá escribe en los comentarios : " familia hoy escuche una historia aterradora" y solo tu y yo sabremos de que estamos hablando. Esperamos que este episodio sea el causante de tu dulces pesadillas.

Every Olympic dream starts somewhere. At first, it's just potential. But over time, with the right support and a few breakthroughs, it becomes something more. Make RBC Training Ground your breakthrough moment. Start your journey to Team Canada today at rbc trainingground.ca. Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new and special episode of Let Me Let Me Exist. The day of today, me accompany to someone who not I don't think

that I have the opportunity to talk about to talk directly

with her today. Today we we're a Andrea Rostro. Maybe

the name. In this moment it doesn't but you have

been a series of Netflix in the that he was a lot of

she's one of the person that had the story

to share to share so is that Andrea

well you thank for to be here. How are you? How are you? Good. Noches. I'm here. I'm very happy. Very content of being, I'm having some experiences, data, platica. So, uh, very felon. So, uh, very feliz. Saludus to those who you're listening. And here we're doing. Very well. That's the day of

family nocturna. The day of day of day, to be a episode, is different. It's possible that some of those who get in buskandos, if there are stories definitively, but I'm interred of some that I intrigue at

a level personal. And you're you know, that I'm a question and you know,

that when I'm going, I'm going to me go to that's so.

So, if not it's all the because I gottiv-t about this question,

that's that perhaps the stories are not a first term. But well, we're

let's see what we want to be I'd want to ask you, this book, this year, right?

The book that you did you. No, it was the year past. No, no, it was 2020,

was 2021. Perfect. It's, for the people, you can't do the where you can

get the where you're the book is the name the fascination of the mal,

obscurese the the bien, and it can get in all the libraries,

Casa, of the book, in the platform of Amazon and also with me particularly me can't describe to my

reds and I myself I'm going to get to their domicilios to any part of the republic are three forms in those that can acquire. Casa of the Amazon and directly with you.

For the people that know that they're listening in Spotify at the final of the episode andra us will be to say your redds and those of YouTube will be written in the description

and are going to to come in the part final of the video as the

other when I'm when I'm when when I see the when I did the

book is based in a situation that you've a

family that you did your family effectively the

is a story narrative in where I I

intend to protect the identity of various for

the because it's a thing complicated serious but

is totally based on an actual of my first circle,

of the circle of the circle of the book is inspired totally

in the actual in the is a base of investigation

in where you can go to go to

or to even to get the information but

I do so I do the person of

a lecturers, go and investigate, no they're with the first

impression and they're they're dilucidate that is the information that's that's

giving. So, for the time, I decided to this history

of experience personal for that could could have

this part of to know more than for

the people that those people that those in this

moment neither even know exactly what is the theme that we're about the question the

central of the book. Let's say, for the moment about the thing about the thing about the term of the

thing about the question of the dark is the problem is God, the demonios and the exorcisms. A this

is redunded totally the book, God, the demonia and the exorcisms. Okay.

I have a doubt with the studies that I've said I've I understand that to do you

know, you know, you've got this channel not, no, no, is an expert. I have to

let me have clear for the people that that's that's more a dialogue, it's more a communication

more relaxed, we can't talk about the day between friends. So, I'm

to ask to a level personal, that in the terms that the termines

that the study of one that especially you know to show this not the

he said, he said, he did the word of the for where the things.

More than some term as well he had heard but

I used but I would be the terminology or the significate an example that

a much could get to happen or me occurred the supernatural

with the paranormal when I when I did the investigation of this

part dilucid that there is a difference of saying supernatural and paranormal or preternatural which is almost synonym paranormal preternatural

synonym and supernatural a essence distinct. If I had heard the terms but those confundia I said

when I saw some type of some form in my house or some rude I said me are passing things

overnaturales but I was I'm playing the term of manner incorrect. Although they can seem, similar, is not the same.

What is the difference between one and other? One example. Or, more well, the actual or the explanation of the signification.

The paranormal or preternatural are suches extraordinary or soceses extraordinary that not have an explanation

in a scientific. And, you can redundar to if someone has seen some

in your house, if has perceived the other are occasioned by some, I don't know,

some of the world etchased to or something, or some a little bit strange, or yeah, successos that

are soxed to happen for entes extraions. These entes can be almas of purgatorio, can be

almas condenades, or can be demonies. When these entities do some type of an actual extraordinary,

it's called preternatural or paranormal. The supernatural are are extraordinary, but that

not those entities. They're actually unicions and exclusively that are that they're

that's sorenatural is very difficult that the beings we can't see or or hear or

or hear because it comes exclusively of God. The preternatural is very common that a much

people. So, that is the difference. Sovernatural is unique and

exclusively of God, preternatural, it's notherstant, that's the end of the purgatory, of the soul of a curgatory, or the soul

okay, perfect. When you're specifically of God, you're referring God, you're not, you know,

all this, or is just only is Christmating God? No, I'm studying this explanation under the

terminology Catholic, then I refer to the God Catholic, and uniquely to God,

not intervening angels, and, not, not, but there's any, there's

an intercession like, orations to the virgin, to the but the miracle

really and only to you know, the God. You're not about this God, Trino, Pad,

and the Spirit, Santo, right? Okay, perfect. Oh, and for what

you're saying, I'm saying, I'm saying, that, as a summer in your house, and that's

you've been experiences paranormal to be personal? Yes, yes, effectively

I've I've had been all my life experiences preternatural

and normales and it is a consequent but in moments

specific of my life I've had these situations complex

and I do you I do you my family tending or is tendentent

to to have this type of phenomena per natural

I think my family is a little rar for so

say rar in what the way because almost all the people are

similar but I refer to that's because for one of my family

and I know a time I had a a particular a really

and and all this type of and other other

other other other other other that was exclusively

to things of God to even even he

got to the sacerrote. So it's like a duality and a disparity very, very interesting. Wow. These people,

all day of today, are they, are living, you know, now, well, my Tia, one of my T's

yeah, yeah, it's a, other, another, other plan of existence. My Tio

still alive, but in the moment in that both were both were doing different ideologies,

so it was, just that you to ask, in life, you took to be in

middle of these rebatings or plentem of one and other other side?

I, if I was present in some questions, my my

Tio as a Catholic or practicant was not was not like to

get to this practices of the chendaria, brogeria, magic negra

and, but there there many there many different all this

type of things that could get to to occasion the

difference ideological. And if I'm present in various situations as such as far as each one takes your

perspective and it's like I have been going to do form and the degree. Okay. For what

you're saying is no there's no there's two ideologies. The fact of the problem of the shock.

Exactly. I mean, and then, what they'd prefer they were not to not evidences, but avoid

to talk of this type of them, and say, how you are good, thank you,

to be a banality, trivialities, but you know into those things. Okay, a question,

no, I'm, if this is something that you can't do you do it about,

but how, you know, in a family that's in this duality? Or, there, there was,

there was a point of rupture that those did those things that are not antagonist?

Well, more than the point of ruptura, I think is, the,

the the way that each who's a example. I also

also I'm another one I'm know that one of an example, one of another one

doesn't study to not do not do you another. It's an example. So,

it's like the kind of that every kind of my family of my tios,

well, my tia knew my t my tia knew people that's a type of questions, of the

things, of the group of this. So, then so, then then

decided, like, to take that part of interest, practice it. And,

my my Tio knew people that he was in the other religious, Catholic.

So he decided to that way and it was like, it was, my abelian,

because my mother, she was, she was, she did a certain education and every

who did what a thing, so, no, no, it's properly a

family profoundly religious or spiritual, but that's the way that one

one eligio? We're going to let's see but no every who decided to have

their questions and I'm but in my family, a example my mom is a

bigada to the religion I'm also for conviction and for those

these soces that have been so that have been the

exorcism so then so we decided we a

guide a spiritual based in the Catholic I'm going to ask you to me tell you a story

you have talked to your member of the family or someone who someone that pese to to live this

type of circumstances still without think that existen? Well, in my family,

everyone they're in that part that pouta that there's a part of that exist in

what the human can do we have been that I don't no, no I don't I don't

me convince No, no, not to that my family has a part of the part of the

part of that I'm okay, very well yeah now so for favor

Andrea, tell me one of the stories that you've lived well

when when I decided I'm I regularly I regularly

I I'm I'm when more time had and

I flew in my ideas and I said

to the computer that you almost no, I don't, I'd or not

I'm parable, the computer and I'm my food, and I had come

and I said, I'm and I have seen reiteratively a ser,

silhouette, as of a way, has to a form than I, I'm more

than I'm a woman that so I'm so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, this entity that I reiterately I've seen a lot of my life is a summer

like a light, of the and that is that my project that I project a

fear, that's a bad or that's sensation of calus frios, of insecurity,

of fear, I've seen this sombraterately at the long as the little

when I when I wrote the I did infinity of the

other I don't know any idea of how times I've

to have to pass for that a feeling to the

colds and there was many I I think I

not I not I'm going to because I am getting

in things very complicated very profound me I'm

in things in things to to to other

and other they don't because do elements very

very very very of the Catholicism, the demons no they're

not not to get the book for this hostigament that I took

with this entity the the there there there there

was a in in the Germany that had I visited

the the camps of the campos of concentration and I was

going to go to night of a But after to visit the

campos, if you get like that sensation of the badon of energy, you know,

the bashoen emotional, if it pega for this situation that, we know, we know,

we've been that's that's that's that I was I was an hotel,

and I was I was I had a column in the middle of the

room, and I went to a a new a new chaseless, then there other three

ospedados, other, other three people in the same apartment. Of a person,

I'm in the column, someone as I'm like the same thing, I'm in other things,

but I thought that was another of the person that was not the same rooming in the

little bit of the letteras that's, as we're all, and they're all, they're all,

they're all we're not we're we're not We were five in the room. Of a sudden I'm

a lot of front of the column and moving to back and moving to the back and a a balanceo

an a balanceo incredible and so I me made much fear because it was very

similar as the being a that I've seen reiteratively then so I'm

this thing this thing this thing how this is that can you you can

describe it a little like he is a is a what what you

do you see that there there there I've seen one

that's presented like a a a capuch a a

a a a and gore well not not

the capuch that the capo like exactly type

monje and another type of vision with a

sombrero in a one one only occasion it was the

front and that's a ser had eyes red. For that's

the only occasion that I have seen the and it was of the

most more me had done because I've to admit that

I've made me have made me have provoked and that

is of the occasions that most me has provoked

those sent to see with sombrero and the

So we're talking, that you're talking about the man of the sombrero, very probablyment. Yes, yes, okay. And your,

your book, narras something about it or not it's the case? No, yes, totally, narrate various

situations and questions when I've seen this being adopted, adapted to the personage that's Aul. And Saul,

and Saul relata all this type of questions and encounters, with Frank, which is the abuel, relata all

this type of encounters that has been that he has that he's that he's a manned to be a

demonio. Frank, he's a within the book. Okay. In your case and

in your investigation, the The Hombor for you is an soul a woman

a woman a now they they're they're uncarnated what? What is

for you the Hombor? From from my perspective I think is a

demonio for all the historical that my family has tried so I think is a demonio that has been done

has rondado a rondado here part of my family to me for diversas questions so with

based in what I have investigated in my perspective in what I think is a demon

a demonio the sombrero the sombrero the sombrero the sombrero the sombrero is I don't how to describe it

color black not so not so at a middle a medium a type

sombrero bohemio for so that is what I have visualized in this is like it's like

it's not if you've yet seen you've seen the mark of avena

that has aub chato and a largeadit exactly it's the description exact of the sombrero or type of figure

that I've seen or that I've seen. You'll give a one, I'm going to share a, I'm going to give a context.

The Hombarder in this channel, especially right, and no this episode in relation with that this instant, that we're we call it in the

channel that we're already in something that is the saga of the sombras. Because the year past occurred something. The year

past, looking document me about about peternormals. No. Preter naturales.

Very well. In cases preter natural and I top with an anecdote of a chicka nietto. This chicka this chicka

nieto is a influencer Sima no record Colombianna and she has a encounter with

this figure that the figure she has topa and she is standing recently is in the

entry of the fourth, has a a cigar and he does a matter of a person who's

a bit of the cigar but no there's a bit more a bit more and it's a move, but not

it's a way to have a guy barbardina and a and a sombrero like the

she he said he he made like he he provoked that he

provoked that she simply simply simply disappears, and there no there's

no more and there and she she said that she was a person. A raise of that I'm

a story, millions of people literally started to send them messages saying, I'm

topado with that I mean I've seen the the sombrero. And that

me he gave to the stories, counten me a and it and resulta

that I top with these data the first, no never

it's with the defined than other occasions. In other occasions, it's like Gabbardina and Rostro were done of the same type of material, and then no's not a distinct in any Rathos, like if were a

type of mass that has a little silhouetta of a rostro, but no any rascal. Like, like, as a lot of a lot of course. And the third is that the type of sombrero variava. And resulta that in

many cases, is the sombrero of Copa that many they're they think it and in some those

those are those are those are in other and other is totally black the zone

of the other they're they're a a point to the conclusion

that I get well I have to have a parenthesis you

you have to mention the father fortee and the

demonies that the demonios they're not human is exclusively

to generate a reaction that is a form per se, because they're not of this plan. But

taking in account this, but even even thinking that the demonio no has an omnipresencia and it would be many of these circumstances pass in

places and moments simultaneous, I've yet to believe that not is one, but that are various. Do you have the sense? Exactly. Yes, exactly. Yes. Yes. It's, in fact, it has

I understand all what you are the the guys spiritual

even the I know the way of the work as the father

Gabriel Amort as the father Jose Antonio Forte

the the explanation that I can or encounter for

this part in where it's several people alternative

we have seen this I in a in

a I go I here in the city of Mexico and people in Chihuahua, San Luis. No, I know, the example so we've seen reiteratively. I know what I can explain.

First, the demonio is the father of the mentira. So, he has a ability of an astucia to be able to the beings of the

human, so it's a way incredible. So, it can, that when we're seeing to be a

person not be the same. One, because, also the demonio, is a guise as

as a seres spiritual like the angels that the the

angels are for seraphines this arch angels angels

the the demons they have their hierarchies have

their legions so so so satan Satan al

belsebu lucifer can have their and use to use

to these demons of the most to to

create this type of visions unification in different persons

and so to be to notice that is the demonio represented with different of their

spirits of their legions. So it's the explanation that I know the I'm doing

to this this part that much people we've been visualized Yeah. What is

the final the you know you're an exorcist that you know

we're perfectly. Not we're putting in the paper but from

that you investigated from the book that's done, and from the logic to the to you,

for you, what creents you have to you know, is the finality a finality to do you, not a finality

to get a evangelizing and commit to Catholicism, no, no, every can't clear what what he wants and list,

I mean, it's like, Andrea is fanatized I know, no, no. I'm investigated

for that so I do it's from the perspective Catholic. Because if you do

you do you know, if you do you don't see we're we're

we're and the majority are under the perspective Catholic the exorcist

they do the exorcism under the rito Catholic Emily Rose

under the exorcism Catholic no another other the conjuro

under the Rito Catholic the ritual the a movie,

it's so this perspective that I'm doing is back on the Catholicism but we know that exists

the Christianity, Judaism, santaity, and all they're all overdo the theme of the

exorcism. So, so is what I wanted to now, respondient what you

me asked, what is the finality? The finality is

perturbar our almas. How is perturvary the heart to

what we we can be with or with our semehanties. And how is this?

As far as the book, the fascination of the mal, oscurese the good.

And start to fascinart to do and get to do that this is subjective, but what

is a example? A example, to start to start to form down with your semifantes,

with your friends, with your partner, and to fascinart to that

part, then it's to obscure the So, the finality of these

entities is that we're in that, in that matter that we're to be, or we're on the

empathy and the care and the people, provoking confusion in us because many times

we're confunded that they're the good and the bado, and of the finalities

that they're is to have a possession demoniac. Yeah, of form physical, material,

is the possession demoniac. of form yeah not tangent, well, if is this part of confusion,

vulnerability, perversity, maldard, that is like the finalities and then, and then, let us

to get to this, but this, I'm from the perspective Catholic. Yeah. Dechue,

what is the parenthesis I'm to use, I'm to say, dear audience, the channel,

you know, because we're repeated in many of the episodes, This is a forum open to all

the creencers every from the perspective that has lived in the context that is the form in the way to

expresser. But we do we do the respect. I want to put an example in this moment of Andrea,

how it's saying, and it's a clear that there's there's a question of other perspectives and

other the I'm going to I'm to know, how I know to how I'm

studied, or the I'm not I'm not because at the final, because every every

every time every has to the clientia. So if you're that you're doing on Spotify Apple Podcast

or not you're on YouTube or in some other platform, have some perspective and a point of view, come to the

comments, and come to the respect, because I think that in these moments, the power to get to

these points of encounter between different perspectives, that is the real. Because, yeah,

the division, there is the shock is the most simple of the world of to do you do

and the offence you cost two clicks but to be able to you can't you can't get to make

like a point or respect to the other is a much more so it's that accept the retort and if

you have a commentio super very much I'm very interesting I said that I'm

my vener of the curiosity it's a very interesting these points of I'm just much more

other things especially a reason of this channel that many people, then start their experiences and, and, at their context, you say, this context, neither said, and it's even

knew that it was, to say, okay, exist in other universes within this. Yeah, and I'm just clear, oh, yeah,

I'm, tell me, for you, in the personal, what is what more, you aterra, you know,

or, as it's, he, he said, I, I'm, he said, I,

I, I, I, pass that, the point, is difficult to know that

something I'm to know to be a bit of you know, you know, you know, that's,

that's, that's, I'm gonna adderer something, I'm, I'm a person that

you know, I'm like, the critical that's that's that's all type of

of comments no, no, no, no, I don't, uh, I'm

very respectuosa of all the people, I've got to the thing, and the chastairia,

Christianism, or so, and I, I think the base fundamental is that the perspective of each person

you know, to you can't complementar every question that one create or and then here I'm

welcome to all contrary, I thank I'm preston part of your time in to listen to

me, and to you me invite to you, so I'm very respectful of all. Now,

sorry, I'm to say it, I'm going to say it's that's, thanks, thanks for your

postura, because I'm going to when I'm in the seminary and all the ecumenical. So, my, my, my

more is the other was ateo, the other was Christian, but Christian, profoundly Christian, and you and other people,

and they were antichotolicos. And they were like, so that's a important, because every who has a

person, and so there's a point of communism, but it's difficult to get that, that's

the, we can coexisted perfectly well and get us to do that, without a single shock. So, I thank you. I thank you.

You know, because if you see that vibrational, tell me, for a favor. Much of you. Well, I mean,

I'm going to get it. After what in the series is it's a point, as in the book,

what, what happened my mom, yeah no there's a kind of me do a same,

I'm, I'm a sombra or something, it's like, ah, you know, like you, like you,

like you, like you, you know, like, to these entities, no, but if

I want to keep in clear, that I always I try, I intend not

transpass a line super delgada, because these things, if they have,

like that line very very very delgat in where there there

have to learn limits, I have to respect, I always I'm

partid of respect. all these things I've been with much respect

with much a libri albedriot of every there's some people there say you

don't you do you have said this book or to say this things in the

book or not you know that you get a attack spiritual and my

response is no because I do because I do because the

things they're they're having that they're that I

don't that to go to go to go to go to go to

always me say oh, Andrea, in the book put this many

things that are very very I'm in you. I think I think I would

start to bring demons or I want to to try to get a thing, is that is

with what you or how you or how you do you or how you're

doing? An example read the book but if it's you know in a form of

retar to oh me no to be to me, why not? Then,

it's like very respectable and you yeah, everyone knows if it's or not pass,

but if read the book, that is with the basis and as I'm trying, proportionate

information sustained, investigated, informals, and invite to them more, that not

only are, they're to be to look at theology, demonology, and to try them

to the dematic to know, that's was my functionality of the book, exponelers

a case real of my family, what was my family, how it supered my family,

with what arms, it's giving us information with the book, bring us

part of feel to think to get I've been about something similar,

I've seen that I've had had been these experiences. That

was my functionality with the book. But if someone more

more want to want to to another way then you now not

is like in me, you know, so it's part of the respect. No, is that he

has to a lot to get a question. You know, the part of us as

other people, we tend to get us to do that we're to do with what we have been

in many quantities in quantities enormous. But always there's that first

in the that you got in a curva, no, in my case and I

have told my and for me the first that I've been a process of this type was something that

was a little never able to masticar and the way in the way that I was not so erratic but it was

very strange because mentally to be over-rege the situation I'm I'm saying

me they're just in a problem but I'm in a place there was

there the person know this story and if not in many chapters

so but No, Mauricio me told a story in that says, look, I'm considerable

a person very, very, very, very very, very valiant. And always that I'm

that's not, I'm not, I'm a question me, and the more aterrador more, because I

felt it was a form to forteces like my nervous, my character, until that one day

me took to live something something something something and he said, and I did it

and I know, it's a question that's another thing, We're in front of circumstances we've got to

move to the house that we're building, still not even was made. And that we had that we're a little bit of

because we not we didn't the regs exterior, only had a part of two of the windows,

but we're going to go to live there if so. He's then then, well, knowing that

that's just all just that's a margot, me to me to my family and there

we're we're and a night, while we're talking a time of terror,

it's the light and we we're we're in the plant a back, they're

to sonar passes, but like if they were making coming coming coming down, they were

the door, and there there no there. And in that moment was like no,

so no it was not, so, he went to a camera, no,

there voices, but it's but it's me went the and I don't know

how to confront this. So, me I'm made a badse

to my parja and we're taping with a cobiha because no so me

occurred other other other other so there's there

there there's there situations that you know, you know, from this type

of situations how they're to reactioning the or is as a

moment, what recommend you? Look, it's for that you said that I'm not

a need to be that part to to these entities. So when

you start to you know that much times is inevitable because I

think I think to control that you try to control that to control

that like because when you start vulnerable emotionally is of where these

these are not they're and they they're and they're to roer like like

animals so what I recommend is another again I am I am

partidaria to have protection with sacramentals catholic like a

saint rosario a or a more a or a or a or a

not to have the fear. The fear to help to the not is

very easy to avoid the but I think to have

protection that that every that does that he

does I mean I think to me I want to this is

how I could I can combat these situations

so well, not convenient even something something that you say

that a little that a way to find out is the thing of the whiffa. Okay.

It's very satanized this this on this on because literally it is

but I want to explain one apart a a sometimes when we know

we don't we know the religion Catholic all the

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have asked me have said it's that I've done that has been that's that's not.

It's not necessarily that you pass something, many people who a one only only only has questions very

very is that a indole, you know, really, that's required, uh, professional. A, a little, those, well, a movement, of a that I want to get to the wige in the way in the

way in the way in the you're in the you're in you're doing because you're a piece of the partecita

like the line of the is that these these things are always these of contextualize to contextualize

Fickate I'm I'm just you're saying there's I'm talking to say to Jose

Antonio Samudio was the was director of this series no no no no

was director was part of the the series because was he, he,

uh, he, uh, the other case to resolve his, his situation,

and he was the, the series, no, of the directors, was Adrian Garcia Boggiano and Andre's,

this, Borgh. Okay, okay, okay, thanks, thanks for this data,

for, for, for claramel. I was listening, and Antonio, and Antonio he,

and Antonio, and Antonio, mentioned about, and we know, the whiffa is necromancia. So,

you're doing invocations of, of of the not-vivos. So,

that some of them were humans. So, then says, then if the instrumento, and coincide,

this is more from my opinion, no is the problem, the problem, I'm going to see, and we know if we

know the people. I'm going to, after to have conversation with many people and that I'm

to talked here, that at the moment to be talking about, I've noticed, I've noticed some

little detail it's into the things that are the things that you know, to these

entities, these entities, those are these entities, the situation is this. When you

human, you know, even know, you know, you know, you know, that you know,

you know, you know, you know, that's a major quantity of cases, or in a

quantity of the number of cases that you don't have any the

person says, I'm perfectly well, and if you you are a good observer and

you see a person, not those signals of that you know, because there are signos there. You,

look, for your rostro is the people, so you know, so. So, the people,

many, don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, you're, you're, you're the only that you want to, you know,

you know, the point is that the emotion and not to recognize, but, more,

a part that I know, I don't see if it could call the spirit of

the person, the soul of the person, or simply the energy of the person,

but I don't I like to put a name that I'm just when I'm

when this two things enter in the thing, it's like I don't think

in the portals, I, I, not so that I know, not so,

I think, more well, as you, synchronisars, a frequency, or you stuieras like

entered in the station of them, but not just in two ways. they know

that you know that's in your station and they're you're you're in then it's

like a super iman in the in the they're because I'm in the plan of these

type of entities no exist the space as a time. So it is like

in alemia and they have to for them for you the space

is relative so when you when you are they're they're they can

be in many they're in much places Then I desigued the people. The problem, I don't recommend the whiffa

under any circumstances for this. One, because no you know the knowledge of your person at level emotional. Two, no knowses much a level inconsciente how functional the suggestion,

the memory, etc., etc., that also, that's not, etc., that's you know, you know,

how you're not, you know, you know, you know, you're not, you know, where if you're like,

as the, well, this place that we don't mention it, but the campos in the you're like you're like

it's like there's people that are there that are people that are that they're not have any kind of

and they're in things because they're in a little in contact with a lot and they're and they're

having experiences very very desagradables and are those are they're that sometimes

are overcargated or occur that, what they they're they're infestated.

So if all this type of things, you're to talk to you, for that's

the one in the one, it's a really, and it's a rosa, because it

can say, it's that it does it but, but if it's a,

believe me, I mean, so, so, so, as a story is incredibly different

as, you, you, you, you, you, you, you,

in the situation, so, well, in car, and in the

family, you, how could you is that there's, is that there's a attractive for the people, for the terror. I don't know. I have a channel of that so, well, I'm trying to understand. But at level of vivance, in what is

differentiated of the history? Look, I'm going to go to three points. Because I want to add some of those. Well, and coincide totally in the first part that's part, this part in where the seres humans,

we don't even even though we're with an intelligence emotional to know, discern if we're deprimed, Tristes, and then then we want to

get into things and to get into things more than that the plan than that if it's

something complicated and my recommendation is always is always go for a line

of a respect of much care and respect so that part is if not

we don't we don't we don't we're to define if we're we're

we're we're we're these situations are So, so,

so that's so the people, uh, now, this part

of, uh, if the the history with the real you know, totally reason,

the beings are people, we're that's totally the morbos or the

uncococo and it's not bad to the contrary. It's all right we're

so much, a time, a through your ventana that are passing

100 Bacas your your mind is used accustomed to see the best of the

best of the same back as a one a back that's a back with two heads

and querns extremely enormously you know, then you go to go to

take to follow to Facebook and to social and presume that you have seen

a back of two cases. So the human, the human, the human, so, is it attracted for the,

for the non-in-law-law- for that part. For that's the thing is much more important like Mariologia, theology,

angiology. But the demonology attract more because he has things more extraordinary, has things more extraordinary as

terminating in the possession and for that attract so, it's, like the terror, like this,

this type of things. What attracts more in a periodical? If one person, a non-100 million of pesos for foundations, or the assassinate

macabro and the photo of the person super assassinated. That's obviously, well, the most tragic. And it's the same. The mind-humana

are so we're saying, and for that weendemps terror. Now, for that we've been able to be me enchanted. Okay, me identified a 100%. Now,

what is the difference to hear history, to hear in YouTube, to be it in movies, to have

a, you're a experience of a voice or of a person this is in that

in that is something something very important because when I did the investigation

of what my mom, my mom me, me, me, let me I'm

when I had 13 years, 12 years, me told what he had passed

of this exorcism that in the series of Netflix. I always had been

a person like a rarita for so and not me and not is that I

have doubted of my mom but I said that that

that's and it was and I started to get to entran into

into these things and and there part all

my investigation and the so So, at these studies,

I said, I have to corroborate this story. Yeah, when I grew of the

age, I'm going to study, was how contacted the sacerdote that he did the

exorcism to my mom, and it and I asked, because apart is a

friend of the family, interview with him, with more sardotters

that he knows, I know, I'm so that is the thing,

so it's, the thing here, but there are abogados very, very,

very, many, and feos, there are abogas good and and, and,

and, and, there's socialolog, super mal honda, also there also

there's people, and there chastigotos, also, there are people, they're

on their way, so I'm, so I, so I'm, so I'm, a, so-sard-

to the people, and to have been that experience, when you are you are an father

exorcist, a little it's gonna sound very triguade and sonar oh no no I don't no no

I'm but they're a personality a temple are not a personhy totally or you

get a non-nad when you see and this case this sacerdote exorcist I interviewed

you said wow you're you're you're you know someone who knows

you know how you don't know how to say because to say

because you start to You go the day, it's, it's to be the time the time,

the time, the time, the time and you know, where you know, this

sacerdate me ensued me, he's all the that he guard, of that

the case of my mom, and when I was doing, he was corroborating,

me was explaining, me was saying, I mean, wow, oh, so,

not is that not it not is that my man, but someone more is a

person personality of that tally and not only the sacerdote but my tio

that was in this event my my mom that he told a

detail my my mother that my and it's what I

tell in the book this acquisition and this recopelation of

this recopelation of experience that has passed is what I tell

in the book a about a story a narrative.

And differentiate the reality is that one can't when he's with the people when they're with people talking about questions like

and you can't get in the incredulity, but when you you know, you know, you know, you know,

is to get a family, to do your family, to get to your people, to say, that part

that you make a person, that is the family. So when when you're in risk,

this sensation to lose to a lot of a lot of things of natural or paranormales you know

you know you know it like you do a risa or like I'm going to do it does it

does it change your perspective change your vision change your way to see your

way to see I'm yeah to narrator a a question

this this you have you have top with I'm I'm

a theory about certain stories. You have been a story that

you have the sensation that's contaminated by some kind of this entities,

or how you know, I'm to tell you that I know, that I have

told in some episode, but now that I know a I'm a story,

I'm maybe, maybe there is there there is a time, a story.

I'm said that the story was a a fienda. The story, more or

minus, a grand rasgos, is a child that's a part of a cult of a very old,

a stucco, not quite tethric, no, I want to know, but it was a tethrico, and that

were and the and the family. She not was never to know she not

she didn't about the marcha. Of a repente, he takes a there's

like fetches in parts of the castes, symbols the extraiors. And she was like,

I don't because he doesn't know, and then he's a fact of the practiceant, that's part of

rites, et cetera, et cetera, he topa with a diary where he's he's a and his

and so she's she decides separatearse. At the moment in that he buss

and they start things to happen to happen in the normal, no,

and situations like preternatural or paranormal And what he is that some have

heard the if you know see an angel is there's one, there's where I'm she's on the

music, the music is down the that's that's that's there's but no

no no no stereo and where you're to come in the

place where the sound the sony and now it's and now it's where it

is the where is the one of the entry of the quarter, the door is a

door and they're a little little and she's going to be going to be the door

and when she was going to she was a a lot of the she's she's a way

that's situation but in that situation now she's seeing what she she was

and what she was in the car that's the skinned and he's the thing that's the thing

he's the thing that he was what he had occurred in the And resulta that in those changes of

sony, this thing, entity, or what say, he's, he's,

he, the part of the life, is there, and she is there, and so the

sound, the sounder of the place. So, so it was a spantosos.

She is traumatized, she's living these things, and they are more anecdotas,

but there was a thing, when it was when it I was I provocated

reactions physiologics that not had much sense I'm my

forms in the I'm not to get in the question but

at getting to the history me provoked reactions

and not about about they they and one of

the details that I know when there when

there kind of some have some have the

quality of like, how haller the fear of the person, not is something that

is a something that you know, even if you know, even if you get the control of

that's the emotion, so, then it has talked, well, the first, it has

been, you're in this type of quality and the second, you think there's that

there's there's there's not, and the type of entities that the

fact of transmit them provoked like just that that's that

that's that's that that's kind of that's like a kind of

unconstrolable like if it was a kind of a virus yeah I think

I think I think the the suggestions is very because

there have to think I think I consider I

a I always I I'm I'm about the

intelligence emotional to to help these things because

I think that's important and I think because thank to God

I've had been much a business in many countries

and the republic and the people me has written me

to me to my cell to oh yeah is that I'm

a person I I'm a this and I super

suggestionate because I don't I don't know I can't learn more. So the people

start in collapse collective mental of all the thing I'm apart what what you

know what you've seen in the series. No, no, it seems that's

no, I can't imagine. If you enter a part of a strong

so I am I'm to the same, I'm not the same to the line very

one part is the part of the part of the These these can't alter the stories.

If you can create this part of all going to while being being

investigating, they're to start that they get that and generate that me

I'm not always, but in some occasions when I was

about demonology and exorcism that was the thing that was

the thing like to what to what you to what you

to pass when you When I read for the first example, Summa Demoneica of Jose Antonio of Forteia or narrations of an exorcist

of Gabriel Amort. This type of narrations are very, and it's to create this type of confusion lector, but

yeah when you know, you know, you know, you have entes that altering this type of questions. Here, when I

read the diary of the father and the father me explained and all dilucid and I

did that not was a little kind of alteration because the human

are the people we're and we get a attention and call the attention

and for so we're we're on the social, because we're a attention

that's that's with us but we but we're so that he's not he's

even to get to he's in a house of a

house of or so, I don't make to make to make a

particular, I wanted to do do and I know, he

and he and he and he and he photos, no, I can not even

say, no, I'm in a problem and he put in a problem

to him with the Santa CED then so, better so,

but this story that he told, not is visied by an

but so It's vices histories and the and they're and they're

in our little to get in our head in our no, no, the demon is super astut. So, always I have

to have to care. Yeah, I mean, I get clear for the postura, so,

so, it is the story, for the postura is that you that you know, that's

clear. Of the actually, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to

get to the going to go to the transfond that you you're

doing. the I know, I know I see that I'm going because it's something that

there's something there's there's a there's a no how is this this chica farniga

is an actress a Lorraine Warren in this saga of yeah of the

Warren of the universe of the expedients Warren of James Juan yeah

well well well and she and she well and she the first

the first that was to do you do you do you're they're a lot of this type of

asecho and the there's a computer abjured and she's talking about the

verrader to the person for that he'd more data and when she has

a computer and it's other other thing when it has been more

and he says that more than another occasion the next they're in the

night and it's also in like three garras, but in the body. And, says, yeah, I like me commende, I said orations, because I did not me to be to-detener, but I sentia that me wanted to

be a-sustre for that no-issed to. During the filmation, there was a-gut-a-cuit, or some type of encounter, that you know-tere-in-prey or I wanted to-sust-lars? Well, during the filmation, no. But, to me, in a manner personal,

if I'm there's many questions so the affirmation was very

consequent it's it was flowing well but in a personal

I have questions that questions that they said and I said

it's a part of a or a bit of what it's what

I'm how I do do I'm how I do I

don't I don't I do I permit that

he to be a more and this because it's a, it's

a different of my house. We can make a one? Yes,

I'm sure. I'm here in my house a library. Here

at the side of my guitar has been so I like, I'm very

persistent ordenadita so all my books are all all

pretty are so that can be to move

and out for statured and blah, blah, blah. And there's a space like of 15 centimeters of the front of the book, terminate the book, and other 15 to 20 centimeters

for that can't to get. They've got two books of the fascination. So, I've got two books of there. I'm around

where are my, the, I'm more guitars in the other the other paredes. It's has heard how it has read them.

And, Well, I mean, I mean Echon, so, so like, there's a sonority X, a chord, no, no, no. Rasguer of guitar. A sootone of Puartas.

Much times, I've been been alone, reading, and onlyly to go to the room,

not of the house, uh, I, did many times during this filmation, when I was in the computer

working, in the test-passer behind me and reflected in the computer. So, much of this situation of the little spectrails that can

be done during the filmation of the series. So, so they were like very persistentous and it was like replantial me

if me was getting in things more serious or not, but I said, Pardon the word, no the word,

no this, so, so, so I'm to be a know, I'm going to

get a and I'm not going, I'm trying, and I'm protected, and I'm protected and that

for who because, for nobody more than that's that's a more than I know that's

so that I'm very so I'm much to to get this part of the series,

but if was complicated because there's there there people that not I don't create, and it's

a supermement respectable, but expone to my family. Because the book is a,

is a, is a, tapada my family, with pseudonymos or a story narrative changed.

But yeah, when came the series and exponer this grab to my family

was to, out, I, I mean, I, I, I, I,

I want to to, to, to, the, madrasos that you get or if I'm not

they're not they're not quite, I mean, so I'm so I'm this my family

for this in the series my mom is always with the identity this resguarded

because I said and she she didn't not I'm not going to I'm going to expose to my family

to my mom especially to that because it complicated that she it's complicated

that she like that like to live to this type of situation hate and

all this thing roo, so it's something so it's decided that she decided that she

resguarded her identity. And all this type of questions that were passed during the affirmation

only I was I was I was and I did, the most the most

what was that I do you I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

two I'm two perritus and one of them was went during

all this rollo, but I'm not I'm a diversus questions of the entes that

ronded my house, my perro was who who received all this energy mala and

well, I don't not, I'm going to talk because it's cowloss. Yeah,

I'm lamented much the situation that you passed. So, from your vivencia, if the animals,

in a certain way, tend to absorb or be affected by this type of entities. Yes, yeah, totally. As soon as they use the animals for to do some type of process, rito, in some

other questions, religions, also the animals have the function or the don to protect to their, to their, to humans.

And, if I think totally that they can perceive and can receive

some type of mald with to save a human so from my

perspective yes from your perspective yeah okay when

when did the when you did the film you you

remember some that especially were like you you

have so you you have the word said now are

now insistent Yes. There was one. When we were in the process of film the series, I was recosted in my camera.

My husband, a lot of times is a home office, a basis, so I was recosted. That was,

that was, that was, he, and it was like that, like, nine, day this at the night

and I started to run out of the dream. I was I'm going to doormitando I'm

I'm a little bit and in what I'm doing I heard that she said that she said to let me

in mind I'm in mind I'm to get to no, I'm going to get a co-jah totally and

I was totally and I was topated to be up to the covica me kept

above of the cintura. I said Lexi, it's a little bit of a perrita, but Lexi no can't do that say that. I'm I'm awes and Lexi was a costed out of the recamara. Okay, me

I'm going to gostar. And again, I'm to start. And I sent me, someone's sent to exactly. And he's back the colchon of the side where

is my husband. I said, um, no has I'm obviously not he.

I'm reincorpor or I'm like if someone is like I'm sitting.

What I am I'm to start to start and when I'm when I started

to listen exactly how they were the door of the recamara but

in a way intense and and I say obviously

is perturbation of the demon. And there are orations of liberation, that are those arecernicous. There are some reason to deliveration,

that is a St. Michael Archangel, that is supermently powerful in contra of the demon, and was the one hand to an Ave Maria, and it was like the things were tranquillized.

Yes, me gave a little of fear, but I'm applying what I intend to give to counsel, but to control me. And I I was

a bell that I have been in the studio and it was like the things so it

was a quiet about but they're one of the things most insistent when film we

the series. Okay. You can you do you do you the

can't the did you let me the I'll because yeah

no the memory no memory no but but for here

I have the there many orations of liberation that are very,

very, very, very, very, and even even the father Gabriel

Lamor, always said that the houses, the the people,

the people, is a full of a mal energy, and he

recommended to protect your house with four basos with

water or sal exorcised in the four corners of your

house. So, it's what a of some, I don't want

like, I want to this, very, like, right, so, no,

no, but are like recommendations that are so do you, then then then I

do it. Duda, because, I go, in what you're in the word, what's the

first I'm the first time that I'm saying, put a water in the question,

from your question, because the skinas what have the important the four

squares of the car symbolizes or there's there's a lot or yeah

yeah the door no we're going we're we're not in

the point because my cell my cellar is my cell

my no no no you're sorry for for

put in this problem but this the and the

the the four corners has has a significate. I want to clarify this

part of the point. I don't want to this a superstition because I not are

superstitious. The fact here is when I do the recommendation of the sacramental

Catholic like the water exorcised the water and the rosario

to put to this this salt exorcis in the four corners

of the the house or that the rosario the cross the cross

the cross Not is a talisman, exactly, but the faith that you have in God is what he adier the power

to these sacramentaries. You can't bring a wela, you can't a rossary, a cross, and not

they're going to have functionality in anything if you don't have faith. So these sacramatres not have power

in si. What does the power is God, a through the faith. So it it's

that is that superstition, if it's that part the way, line derogism. And the significate of that's put in

the corners of the house, is because the corners the base, the ciment, the

ciment, the, the, the, that has a, that has a, that's a representation

of a fortaleza of a house, is that detient the mal, a through these

sacramentals that's they addier the power to the power at the faith. And for that's

it's a four corners of your house, of your recamara, of your house,

to your way, the function of the sal could, the functionality that's this maldard.

Because, what's the salt? Yes. Or the salisada? We've many

times, or we have the credence many many many Mexicans that,

oh, pass me the sal, no, because me going to do

mal a suitor. Me, you're going to salar. It's a salado. And no, here the

functionality in the exorcism, so all, as like the salt, you do a flavor to the food,

he ady that partecita of the magic that we that we like, in the

exorcism the salt signific that's that's that you as a person

you as to give to that you to do to do to do to do

you you to do you when the demon you attack in a manner emotional,

because you are vulnerable emotionally, you, a través of the sacerote exorcist and the

sal, that is a representation of the flavor that you have to do you have to do that the salt that

you have to put, that's that's a sense, that you know, for your family, your

children, your own, your dreams, your metas, then when they're when they

they're when they're a salt, it's the representation of the flavor to to your life that you have

so the is like very satanized that if you're going to pass you're going to no no that's like supertison

but more the salt signifies that that means that that means that that part of the food, so like the

food that part of the sense that you have to that part of your so that's

what means the salt exorcised in it and it has been especially exorcisada

or can be any type of can be salt or salt exorcised.

Because if you put the salt, not just for the same, the same, it's there like,

as there's, like, like, what is the difference? So, I'm, understanding,

I'm, I'm understand a lot of the sacramental, but the audience, the idea

is just just, like, to, where's doing, it's doing, uh,

can't be called, or it's, or can't, how it could be to be, to put

the sale in four your skinas for to that's a energy or to bring a

house. It's a ritual. It's a is a ritual Catholic of sacramentals. Very

very. The Sal, you know, you know, what is the difference between

and exorcised from the right? The salt is for that your house or your person,

your family has a benefit of the have the food in your

house. The well, the good alimentisio literal. So,

if attract is a bendition of alimentation. And the sal

exorcised to the functionality is specifically with entities in this

india of this maldad. So if is more a pegated to the malo

the sale exorcised is to detener the Um, uh, or this type of

questions that you can't do, if someone, to get a, he says, but the girl, and he's got a man to do you

know, he's supposed, the salt exorcised. The salt, the salt, is for, uniquely, the bendition of the

food, that's not the food in your house. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Figate that's interesting

the question of the salt, because in, as, like, it's done for an opportunity,

it's done, but it I said I talked with a chica, that is a Mexican that

is a Mexican that mentioned about about a certain rites of certain Ritos that are in Japan and

how is a question spiritual. But it's a lucura because it makes sense and

you think that the people are not the naturalness spiritual and they're to enter in

a form physical for that they can have a context to you for that

they can they because what she said the the entities she

had had experiences paranormal being there in Japan. Well, it's in Japan and they

have passed and he's but it doesn't seem nothing what he in Mexico. It has

has been with things Japanese 100% so it's very rare because when me me

passed these things like not I never to understand that it was a

paranormal until that he he took a photographia and the photography and in the

picture and she oh okay and they he he's he's a person

Japanese and this is a demonio. That's a demonio Japanese. And she not was

because she had a form visual of power to make a a entity demoniac. So it's

a, it's very loco, to be how it also the kind of those

those those are the person, or of the person, but there there's a

thing, it's just in all the religions and is just the use of the sal.

The use of the salel me has made much the attention because

it's in the Rito Catholic, but also I've heard from the santaos and also I've heard from

people who have rickuto pagans, also people who manage a magic black, magic negative.

So, is, how this element is like this is like profoundly used in all the questions

spirituales, no? And, tell me, do me. No, yes, no,

you know, you know, you're totally to this part of what you talked about of Japan and

the experience that you you're you're telling that the demon

sonar super-loco but it's a couple to a couple to even the

technology so the demon to be to be present to be to be

perturbar so if in Japan in China in Taiwan or in

any part of the world it is present or

represent of certain stories of certain theories or so

say or, of certain ways, is because it's because it

a couple to a culture it's sound very

chistos but so it so it does so it does it to

to be to the human and if the sal is

an element in the Catholicism very very powerful very

very very very very very very very very

very the demon he would and so and

only so it's in the Catholicism in so in many in much in many in

many of religions in practices and it's interesting it's interesting this studio.

I've done for far share let's look it's

it's very shortita two minutes San Michael San Miguel Archangel

defend us in the battle see our so our

anti the perbec and reprimals to God. We need

supplicants, and you, prince of the militia celestial, arroja the infirno

with the divine power to satanas and the other spirits malignos

for the world for the world for the perdition of the almas. This is an

oracion exorcistic. This is all the exorcists in the ritual Roman Catholic.

Okay, and this they can use all the people can do you do it

problem of one. You know, you know to learn's on your cellarred and you

want to be natural or paranormal, that that's a relation with the faith that you can't impregn is very powerful.

For the people that people who is a Christian Catholic or for who the interest the

person, dear editor, I'm, I'm you know that you can't add to that you

can't learn and they're to get a at the handse to the way.

Oh yeah, I'm like much this question this super interesting. How

how you you're I'm very very much with the opportunity that you're to expose this

theme of this thematic that's complex. What chido, what I'm like, I'm,

I've been put the point that I'm, I've been, like, things that has been that's been

in your studio, and that's very, to be a that's to be a time of,

to be to be able to be being unciousousa in these them in these

all what has studied there's has generated or has brought more your attention, your fascination?

Yes. If there questions, there, for I say, I mean I like much the

life of the sands. Because, because are, they're, are people, are not

terrenals and have passed for questions very perturvant to chesan

as chancas of the demonio and this is mystic. So, they're called mysteries

mysticos. And that's what in those investigations me attract because if someone is interested and

read the life of the santo, they're to find many many perturbations of the

demonio to the way inimaginable. Tantto as San Benito, to actually the exorcists use the

cross of San Bernard. And he he was an exorcist but it's for the simple reason that's

a single that's a lot of the problem of the things that San Benito took on the demonio

Santa Teresaita of the Jesus San Agustin that San Augustin is one of

my philosophers most emblematic and he said I think

if you think I think I'm many I'm not I'm

no I'm and it's what I do I do

I think in this I can DARTE things for you can

addentrater more but if not you know it's like it's like

complicated So this is of the things that most me have interested

the the of the saints of their life because the

perturbations that have done of the demon are

unimaginable are very very very very when when you

the when you know not because you want to be

because you want to not just pass personandos and list.

No, no, no, it's it's not, no, no, to teach a perspective and the life

from, from the point of view of that's that's that you, you know,

you know, you're, you know, you're, you know, and you're , they've been people,

people, and have been those, and have taken these perturbations of the demonio, you're

they're to show, to how to finder to develop a intelligence emotional to

to evit all this type of questions. So that's of the things that most my attract

me attract, me like. Fidate. Well, I think so I'm to talk to talk about

something that I've been a personal. I feel like connected with my interests

that not I've made here public to the audience. Well, one, I was

was very in a group of missions, I've got to and that I

did it practically was what I thought, He was a my life in

general. He was I'm meted 24 7 and me I'm

but but apart to occur something I'm in my experience

I think in a family kind of a combination very

a very a true a faith and a practice

continual but not fanatis was very like with much

faith but at the same time, very aterrisado on a human.

So, I was a factories moral, from a question more of philosophy. And in my

house, the dialogue, like a theology and much philosophy, because my father was a person who

was a question of the defense of the faith. So, he had dialogues all the

times, with multiple people, pastors, pastors, of people that were to visit the

class, and invite to the other, and he , and he was, and

me me to be to be present. So it was very rare my infancy. Because my

infancy I don't receive a catequesis, no receive a type of a doctrine that is for

children, I'm more more than for adults. So that when I enter to groups of the

church and it was a person, I know, I think the religion, I was a person,

a lot of a political, I've seen about San Augustin Dipona, on about St. Tomas

De Cino, me I had meted in questions about the introspection, where you get and know

your emotions and understand those multiple intentions that you can't of God, and others are the nature

and the naturalness divina and things so, no? Then, so it's profound about the

Trinity and over the Spirit Sando. So it was my case was a lot of

ideas that was it was impossible to do something to somebody because what

said, so that the other person would be always, like a point of to say, well, pletke us

about the things to do you. So I'm doing the so I'm going to find in my place and not

occurred to that never. In the seminar, me do that I'm like in all the

parts, are people that are people who get in there, and I don't,

I don't I'm I'm can't say this part of vivences mystics,

because it was the part that me me me a I pega. Just when

I'm I'm going to these groups missioners and I think literally in God and the devil like some entities philosophic, 100% not deist. I mean,

I had yet had yet a point in which all it was to a postura morally, not more. And then we

are doing a broad that means that means to be a world of a object. And I

start to have more inquences misdickos. And it was something very because

I rompia my form to understand the life to say to the mother. If

existed then something something more than the point of the point of the point of

my first those people that's the people who is the not there are the people who

they're to be more with something that's sovernatural so then from a place and

toparte with a person that you see that has aura, but that

transcending to the person because a person is not the person is that

the person is that with with when when there is a something

a maledula. That is a presence a good. And all the things that I'm mentally, emotionally,

emotionally, that I'm that I'm listen to, for a second, I'm saying that there's that I'm

still doing, and no I need, it's like if me could be able to learn. It's

something, it's something to explain. I'm trying to find a person with the

who could talk to talk this. Inc. Even with my guides me

it was it's it's it's the point is that I'm top with the

life of the people and when I top with the people

I'm with the life of the mysticos and and then I

got the and I didn't I don't I don't

say I don't say I'm not this but I'm they

they they're just what I'm what I'm I'm I'm

so that that are talking here. That type like a

kind of that comes to that's that comes to that's that person that comes that makes,

that's what that's a person, is a kind of of energy, it's something that

my little, my head, and I, and the of the life of the St.

Juan of the Christa to the St. Teresita of the Jesus,

to the Santa Tura of Ars, to just I, I'm, I'm

was a captivated by the cross of the right we we've been so bad so much that's

benito barde exactly when when I see your story and the assacanzas. But I'm do it a point

that all not having a context of intelligence emotional many people can be

being being that and not they can be different to a different

because no exists a profoundization and not they can distinguish a part of emotion

of a part of energy, of a part spiritual, all is a mescolance and internal and they're in a day-a-day, no? But, what interesting,

the life of the santo is, for me, is a, it's a, that's a, it's a, time to not,

not start in that, but if, if you, you, you're, you're family

nocturna, you're a new thing to do you do you to know, you're to

know, you're not is a supernatural is a bit more impactant and a more subtle for that's so it's so

difficult to have you have had been an natural? Well, I think my

experience more supernatural is to continue with being with life, that God me

bendiga day to day to be with my family, with my job

and I think I know it I'm like something something that

is the most that I can't have to enjoy to enjoy to to do my mom to my mom to my

my men, and to enjoy the beautiful that's the life because I know I'm going to

talk about this but I'm fanatized so I'm also I'm music, I'm a

person that's a tattooed or not it's like fanatisated on that so,

are not are different rubros in those that's there's to be to board

and as being you're the life of the people of the

other natural and normal, and of what does the demon, the life of the santo is the, the, of the

things more preternatural in where you can find questions and they can even even identify. And it's necessary that the

people create necessarily in the saints or in the Catholicism, but is what I said at the principle. I think is to be

to know, to start to make to your mind at different points of the nature, it's not

a form that rich, so savors that it permit to talk from the

natural paranormal, philosophy, history, theology, and even of what that's

but you're having that part of your mind, not serrart to say, oh,

no, Andrea came to to talk and like I not I don't

I'm a no, no, no, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, I, he's a super malice and all, no, no,

no, no, keep monos, stigmas, prejuicios, and more we're absorbamos the

father of the to have a ensignance, to acquire things good. That's what I always

think is something good. I'm a lot of a point of a bit of a bit of a good idea.

I think that's what is what it needs. Especially when we're we're having conflicts in

those levels, or get to say, we can coexist perfectly well,

I think is the great retos. So is that Andrea, thanks. There's

there some there some story with that you to be here

of the family nocturned of the audience of this channel? Well, history as a

but I want to give us some type or that they're more more observators

one example I'm I'm very fan of James Juan who is director

and a writer writer and movie movie and I I'm

very fan of the films that he's he's and also

I'm a bit a aspect of exorcism I recommend much the

series of the exorcist that is in the platform of Prime. There are many many

elements that's very interesting and important that I explain in the book. One of

of them is an example. I always I like to put this example because when the

sacerdote is doing the exorcism to the posseus, the posse has been the

eyes there in the series of Prime of the exorcist. And in the

exorcism the The sacerdote he abre the parpado to the posseau

and that has a significate when the sacerote he'll the parpard to do

it's to dilucidate if his pup is up or is above and why

if the pupilla is that that means that that the

possess has has demonios of the legion of satan

represented by the serpent if the pup this is

the down he has the demonios of the legion of Lucifer represented

by scorpions and then when does that those sacerdates to give

counter what the kind of the demonies to be

to and will be and what elements have to

have to to get that battle spiritual so

then of this type of symbolism that there in the

series I abord in the book, for what

is the stola morated for the stah exorcised? for the Santa Rosario,

what power has all those sacramental or for what they're in an exorcism? Why is

a circle of salt around of the possess? So, so many elements

that we in the movies, that we know know the because

when you read the book and you will be a a movie, you know,

I understand why. Ah, yeah, I know why. And now that's

very new to the series of the exorcist or, I go, the movie that

they're to make, there's there's there's many things that put on the first

movie, in where the book explains for all this type of questions,

for the the acid exorcised. So, I recommend

that you put more attention to the elements, and if not want to

buy and the book, well, if they're in other type of books like

the exos under the Lord, that's also this situation. Okay.

The the different of these symbols and rittos, only the rito

is the only that is the exorcism or there more in other religions? Look,

the approved, obviously nothing more for the church Catholic is the rito

cato because it conge many elements. One of them is the power that God

he adiere to the Virgin Mary. We know that other religions not in this themeatic

that is very respectable. But also, they accept exorcisms from the Judaism,

and from Christianism, and are functionales and have functioned. Why they're

not? If not they're not not not for the simple

effect of the intention of the person to help

spiritually to someone. That's the fact of the because it's a exorcism in the

Christianism, we've been much charlatans that's, that's, but when it's present an exorcism

real in other religions and it and it's for that because God permit the good

the bond that the bond of the person to help and for so that can be can't

take a okay the intention and what he's like that is like that is

exactly what count is the same that was the worst of the ones were the people were the people who

were the people were in a lot of an exorcism but with the intention to help to help the people

so that that's all that's well okay okay this this is one this is a doubt that

I want to want to do you know if you don't know the creencies of Muslims

exist the exorcism or the position as no not they're not they're

like possession or exorcism as well. They're names specific but encodry in the same figure that we're nother so that's

so it's there's okay okay, okay. Very well then, then with this we get to

the final of the episode I remember that I'm that I'm that for the people who have been

in the channel in the part ined there will be a bit more of

extension For the rest, I wish a minute a week a minute a time.

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