HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP0012 LA CULTURA DEL MIEDO

Episode Date: June 16, 2022

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Let's Let's The What No Existee Episode 12 The Culture The Mieto

The Nocturna Welcome A time A episode more of a Let me to be the

day of today to me I'm Seyla, how you're How? How?

How? How do you you're You know that this type of things are not

so grad and that you're doing an effort so is that we value us. It's that we're doing thank you. Thank you. Thanks to you for invite me.

Me said there you have some stories that is certain? Yes, various. What do you do you

do? So, I'm telling you a story and then you tell you. Okay, me

seems very good. This story that I said, me, I'm to say, me, she's

a new two times. She said, that there two cases that's, in their family that has a story

very large and very tenebrosa. The first house is a house that's in Saltilla. That's the place,

his abuelos has a much time, they've bought the terrain. But since they've been the terrain,

they've told the legend of the place. And the Lord said, in this

space of the area that they're there there's a treasure enterado. But it's

resguarded by two persons. The fact, the cadaver of the two persons those are together with

the treasure. And we have the obligation to say to you to say,

that the that he will want to do you of the the only is that there is

that you have been done and that you are going to have to be

and to give to the person that more who more they

want to the family. If that occurs, they'll have the treasure. Yeah,

we've the information a part of their responsibility. If they're they're in the property, they need to

pass this information to the next inquilins. The abuelos were. No,

they didn't any they interested about nothing that had to that they're a lot of enormous,

an house that has many more abatations and a few years than people. A patio enormous

and the colony started quite. In fact, it's in a certain area

military of saltillo. Conform were passing the years of living in that

the house, she were such strange. But nobody did

so much the mother was continually a man that

was in certain places and the other was

that was the man he was the He no, he had a need to and to anyone caused any

problem. But nobody apart of her and then also, also they were more creencies of

the abuela that's situations real. Sin however, occurred some years after,

there were some of the new and they were not the people, that these

people were much all the questions of the to look

echiceners, bruchas, all what had to be with that, they were in the house, and they were

to be a session of spiritism. All the family to get to this, because the

little chico Inferno Grand, it gets a back in the information,

but the family was always always a old not a important

the problem when when a time when a time to hear that practically

they're demolying that house. If they're to hear that they're getting the things, they're they're raching

things to the door, it's it's very very violent the movements. They're cruised to the

house, to come the door and nobody they're they're they're they respond

after much time after much after the case is the case I've got to

I'm I'm there but no no there nothing. So, no

so, no no. The decision extrano. The problem is that every Semana Santa,

since, occur in the same events. Sunan that's that they're that they

can't and they're and if they're so far that we're that we're

that's that's very much that's that one of that time,

they're saying that they're saying that they're going to be a house of

the house of this chica. Okay. That the a little no interact with the people, but that

they'd like to you're in and they'd go out of a quarter to and he was a lot. One of the

sobrients he'd really a and said that the poor the poor boy, he was

very very but that he was that I'm much fear. And that he was

started to to try to all those. SIGier on the years, the husband of

this child that me made that I'm never he had passed nothing

and he he also he didn't know about the of the other of the people

but one day standing in the room in one of the one of the

house they're they're they're like a type of a

different like and then he he was he he did he's

very he he turned the he he no he

he he's he he's that he he he's the one of

started sonar like a grunyido of a perro. Very very

marked. He's parro the husband and he's military. Well, so,

so much to have to be to be to be to be to and then

there's nothing. But, even with the light pended again

he's sound the grunado and that he's he's

a idea that was his imagination that not

had had been. Then, what what happened was that passing a little that had

seen, the other little bit, a little he was going to the room, and he

started, the perro, the perro no, he wanted, he said, the same

the same the same he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, and when

he was, and when he came the the husband, and the to see what was going. The the new was consoled and aterrated,

grittando the skin. And they'd know they'd not. No, I'd not even though you'd and said that was a girl ofrofts and that was a very aggressive and like so he was going to come. The rest of this story

I'll go to tell more in the new section of the channel that is called Casos, for that's stay attentive. Now, Cilah, what history you have you?

I've got many, very similar, also, like, of houses, of many years,

this, well, the first, is in a house of a tia. They've

been there and all their life, I mean, I think that's easy one, um,

I'd try to say that that's that's that's that's that's

about for the family to a hundred years, if not is what more

the most. The the boyos of my tio, of my Tio Abuelo Vivian

there but the most that were his papas the papa the father of my

my Tio Abel he was a sir Jose a a man very

well was very negative no he was to live with he

all the time was all he only he just he was

a there had a there she was the lady was the woman had had

prohibited to pass to see to be to he's he's

he he's the he was very young around

of the 45 47 years and he he he

he he he was he had to he had

he was he he was he was her Cicididora subier

and to be to be a see a but he was not a

bad and all everybody had probably he was not

he was a person was a very very

ordered and that for the same for the that he

important that not that nobody would not he

was very very obsessive with that when when

he because he because for that this, my t-a-vuelo with her husband, well, yeah vivian

there, but in the part of the above. So, conform they took a his children and were growing their children, they were

to have been to live, because then it had passed a time that was disabitada, and in the part of the area, there

was there where they could make reunions family, and the carnita sad, and all that,

so, they, they, her husband and they'd have a little bit of a every time that they're there and they're remodelar the house, this,

no so the mobiles they'd, they'd move in, and they'd say that they'd appear in the place where they'd be, not they'd allow them to change those of the place. When they'd they'd beaubes, but similar,

for example, a sofa, and the sofas, well, they're, those of three ascent, others of one, others of two, they'd again again, they're in the way in the

that his abuel those had. Another thing that was disasers

to do his placas because he had a ritual to lavara and he was

in a batho in the in the window on the lav of and,

um, me mentionan my tios that not could do you, they were to get

the place there was the back to the and the they were, and I'd another

in the same place, in the same place. They were to ask help,

the help of the church that were to be to be to be the house,

the house, remodeled the house, in the part of the but that

was sufficient, because we have a house of my tios,

that are the building, and from the the place, the

And clearly, it's many times where he isom. So, the figure of him, his complexion, and all,

a man, clearito, because he was a man very high, and a homero quadrado, and it's

where he move the curtains, because of the terrace to the house, it's a

door a front of a biggeridia, and it's where he is where he isombe

like if he wants, but never it's all. So, it's he's a

subado. And then he's to see the back. And then it's so you're doing it

many times in the night. After of that, this, they're they're

like they said, oh, no, no, that my t' the,

the, the, the back, that, she'd not, they're

a, and we're And we, we, we know, we're doing with her, and she decided, no, this, Vengen, is that, vengan, they're, I mean, they're, to, so, was he invited to, to us a, a subalcon, to get them for themselves, what she was being. And, yeah, I mean, effectively, they were. So, then, yeah, the family, like, he started to put us a little more alert.

Despite of there, this, when, no, they're not to do their reunions, and they were, they were doing their terraces, and who were looking to, into, he saw out of the bathroom and come in to the

kitchen. And then, as he was always he was to get a house, to get

to get a a caracol of concrete, but of concrete, that is got ridgars with

metal around. If you go to the house, the stairs, the

stairs, the are abuhered, they're in the where in various occasions when were doing

and the people was to get to get us they'd they'd say that someone they'd them push.

They'd and the concrete was there and they had been pressed with the

and there there were various accidents very very very there.

That is the part of the right in the part of the back

they they were there there was a a a pair of Spaniolese. They were called Trinidad and Mercedes.

And the who most have seen is the Sir Trinidad, because he is he has permitted in, in how is he,

or hear, O'O'O'O'Aule. In change, the abuel of my tios, only is in sombra, nobody has seen his factions

as such. And the Mr. Trinity, to him he likes to make many people,

he doesn't a stust, not is a malo, but he doesn't do you do you know,

set up in my, my tea, that's much, she was a time, I'm a lot of talk to talk to

and get to and I see, and she was to play to him. But, like bromium, they were like

if they were friends or no see. Mentioned that my Tia got a little a little

of a because in a occasion she was she was my prima

and she had a maces of and I was doing and the

two were and the sir Trinidad the the Sarende

and he says hey let's Bero and my Tia

that how you get and she open the and

he see, so, so aghached, moving her. And she thought that was a dream. So, there was when she knew, that's whewer, that has the eyes as well, how is physically, because he

said, the little, the little. So my tia, like, entered adornilada and so she up. Volte to see, look to see a prima, that was in the corralito, and was to hogandos with the, with the cobiage in the cooeyed in the

coo, and he was trying to to breathe. So, thanks to the Lord Trinidad the

little the little the little so so I'm to get a part of

there, she got her a little a much a great to the Lord

Trinidad so then I said for his name he said the

Spanish the the Spanish there is you're to

be the he's to go to the say that's

like they're like they're extrana. Even when when she was talking about

to him and me just one one time me took that she talked about and I'm

like I Tia, I'm sure that I'm so that we've got we've got a can't

do it's in the house like to help to help you know we we're all

we're all over the house this in the my my Tia

is some so it's an an environment quite there is a

To the Sir, to the Mrs. Mercedes never, never never seen

or nothing, only the only the Lord Trinidad. And, uh,

and various have been so in the kitchen. Like that was a place

favorite. So, when there are the back they're saying they're

in the kitchen. But are the people who are the people? In this

house to the thing, you see, you something something?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like, like, like a frio, like, there's a scalofrio, it's a propioception. You see what

there's a little here, even you know, and you do the equilibrium, and to chocker, and to come to and a,

right, and so, no? Sient, you know, you know, you can't be, then it's very confused, because you see

the presence there, of something, is, you know, and never has been to say, is tangible? I,

don't say, so, I'm going. You corrested? Okay. Mentioned a frio. So,

you know, a change of temperature? No, precisely. A frio corporal. A scalofrio.

Okay. The chills that they call those North Americanos for the fear, the panic.

Uh-huh. Okay. Has entered or has been that second piece? Yes,

you, you have occurred something there, or you've seen something to be a,

but if it's a, so, So, for example, I even when go and the reunions are in the terrace, I don't even go to the bathroom solo. I mean, I don't even

to get to be able to because the baio is very great, very, very grand. The bathroom has been the closet there and there's people, and there's people

that has said, that's seen in the closet hasomado. So, that's in the house on the and the sir, and the sir, so, for

to start you. Okay. So, no, I, so I, so I'm very miedosal, the truth,

you have, you have creences spirituales? Yes, In what you Chris? Well, I think in the

church Catholic and in the church like the angels, I mean, that there and I'm never meted

in the thing, because I'm could be, I'm like suggestioning much and as so I'm

very mows I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm know that I'm that I'm

there's a thing but I know indago much in the thing. Okay,

the situations that you're you're you're thinking in this house is like

if these phantasas spirits, entities, as they want them they're they're

intelligentia no? Yes. So, interactual and conscientious of

certain situations. Yes. Of the two, for the anecdotas that you

have told, what is the more conscientent or the more

intelligent in the sense to to be a kind of

a propositive or with some effect specific with the environment. The right. The other. The other.

Yeah. Because the above only has been a appearance in that occasion. It's can't be like so the only

that's about so, but very sporadically. Very sporadically. In the time, the the of the the above,

yes, the of the above is, he has done a lot. So,

like, and it's and so they're in places in places strategical is to

to be to be what you've got to to come back to this child of a child who's in a this chick who's a psychologist when recalbate the career, a room, a co-suitary, a co-storio, a co-chery in that a few people

some patients or people who were those that were in the and they were a man. No, they were

not much attention to the bathroom at what they went to but passing the time

they started to have much movement of clientele and a day opening

the the bathroom was like a kind of that had a

type of and there had things of things they were

the opened that they there was a a a pelotita, that was

a color red, with partisita rojas. Midea media, and media antivua,

but there was a day, between several months that you've there

a day, a day that you had a time, the the brother of a

patientit and then so, and then so, he's the little and the

little bit the and it was just the last patient of the day then they said, no, manna, we're going to

we're going to get us, no, no, it's all the day they're going, and when they're going,

and when they're the door to doceo, the pelota is there. And then they're not if someone

they had had a guardado. And then, but not they didn't that much they're

they're going to the days. And then the the Pellota, they

they'll move to move to the place, and they're all in

the first part, and when they're the next to the other way,

but now, but now they were where they was,

and at the moment in the first was and it was in the

inter when when they came to that the first to be

a other other day came a pair of the

and with that object in special. So, I don't do I don't do and I don't do you know those trajo. So,

they're going to doltas to the situation and the sheka that came to the program and had

had been many experiences and for not to say terrorificas. Then she decided

that she take the one of the one of the put in a boat, they're they rompan

and the and then the restos they're They've been lejos to that's

that's so they're doing it. The intendant is all the next to the the polo

not appears. Okay. They're so in a great thing. And thence a gritty and it's

and say, I don't work here. And they they're going to where? Where's the little bit of the

bluza cuted? And in the back there's something. And so, the That day, he'd

go and the day the day the day next the day after the oh, I'm putting

chinita. She's they're that's a little and that was a really,

so they were to get to the renta and they were to be there.

I'm said that he's he said he's he never he's but

he's where is the place so then maybe in some

moment we we to explore it. Now, tell me of Villalama. What's what's the

yeah? Yeah, well, it's a little there's there's many people there are

many, hundreds of stories. A me what was not was not really, but it's

no, but it's no, no, it has no, no, has no I don't know

I'm the truth but my abuelas um me They tell the history and every that they're going,

then they're kind of affected. My vis-a-vuela perked a his husband for an infart full-minant, but I never

knew it. I was five years after that he fellacy. And my tios and my papas

and so, they were adolescents. My parents were 19 years when I were born they were

so, they were so they're so they're so they're to put in a huger to the wihah.

there in the tetchito, no? My papa no, he doesn't like to all that, so, like, I'm just, like, I'm just, oh, yeah, that's, how funn't, to play to get to the whiha,

and they're going to get a wichas, then they're going to make a midias, and, and, like, they're, how to explain it,

but something, what was rare, what did you do you say, for example, that's, or, like, for example,

that, oh, I, I, I, and so, so they started to and they started, no? They're just going to

the game to medias and at the day next, they said that I was and that I was to play to to go to the bike,

because in the street, I was to go to go to four years, I think, and I had my

bike with redittes and all, with the children of that. And, and that

went to going to my visa to my visa abuela. This, abulita, this, me, I've to see a man

that's called Fefe, that says that he's good, that's always you're always, that's all, that all they put them

because I, I know, I know, that's the they said, he said, Fernando, I know that

they said, Fefe. So, that, that, that me got to be to be,

he said, I'm, let's say, and I, oh, I, say, and I,

and I, and they're I said who it was And from there all of that's not they're not

they're so they're so they're not because they're not they're not or or what on

and who are who's the wifee the expo the expoena the expoena the expo the expoena

yeah yeah for me it's a one thing but for you it was like no

no you don't you don't you don't you don't you don't you well you're and there

there are there are there another story is in my house.

In my house they're there's a little a little to come in

my car at the little my perrita, my perrita, my perrita, no, they're going

to come to the stairs to my court, my perrita no, not is

to be to do you have to get to and get to and do you do it, no,

not they just can just like like a kind of like a respect no

I don't see. And my Tia, a Tia, was in my house and it was December. I was very small and I was

with my Primo and we were in my prim and I had like So, to check it, I'll hear the click of the mouse. So, but very rapid,

very rapid, very rapid. And when he assom a look at the computer, it was, if you've seen the solitario, how when you're going to start, the barraja?

Well, the game was done. And when I was the little bit, the little bit, the little bit of the door. So, he

finished the game. Sure, that my tia solved the gritty, She's He's He's He's

He's He said He said He said He said And he said But there But no

There's No, it's She was She was Yeah, My tia My tia She was

She was She was She was She was In vat Blanca, Pellolizzo Largo

Castano No Negr And that And that She was Like She was

Like a She 13 years It's What the a little transmitted it was

like a little a little a little a little a little seeing a bit of not terrible

no terrorifico no with the not with nothing just like just like being

just she was she was she was she was a that she

was she was very very very Nip Campbell, was an actress a

quite famous by the final from the 90, the initials of the 20, the beginning of the movie, the script.

And she bought a house in that she was a incident that there was a lot of

a day in a fiesta and a very very a really a one of the people, and

there is a group of chavas that are subient to the room. So, so he

went to him and other people, they're doing it and when they're

not in the room, no, but no there's a rastro that he has

been there, it's that's the description of the chas and when

they're the chas that were they're notated, when they did the description

of the roba and they're all the those that were that they've

died. That then it's like in some cases the arms,

the spirit, or the conscience or the energy of the person

permanence in the place but in some interactu with the

people in the case of the case of the person that

lived in the second plant but there are other

that simply they are reproduces and are occurring

there that's the case of these chikas in that house. Like, like if were they're

cyclades living the same same that they've seen, like they're a little that's

someone, someone has seen the other than yeah? Yeah, my mom. My mom

she was, she was, to pass to my court, you know, the escalera is in

diagonal to my court. And just the last to the court to the part of

my part of my so, so she she the door and you can see just that inter between

the escalars and my quarter in diagonal. And I was in Austin and my my brother also not we were not we were in

house, I was my father and she went to and the madrugada she turned and open the eyes and she

saw her and she saw but she thought that I was I had in that then it's just that age

11, 13 13 years. this, like, Vata Blanca, Pelo Casta like, that the

little bit of the little down to the door, but he was a pause and she and he was

he said, and then he was going to go to walk to and then you're going to about

13 years. 13 years and the situation anterior the old was you had

had had been like like five. Like five. Mm-hmm. So,

the that is that's that's been living in that was so, not

not it's not a cause to do you? No, I would say to

but I know that still I'm not the only not so I'm like that the day

to do you do it? Well, my perrita no, still still the

little that's she's she she she she doesn't she doesn't

and I feel a like you maybe. Like if the fear the the

maybe the detutera. So, like if it would have been trained to

not sub the escalas when never is he's done. So, she's what he

does what he does? She gets a parada. Parada and he starts to cry

to desperation because you want to do a pass and then he gets

so and he goes and he he does a pass and he he he has

seen have been a person with with with no

because when she a sust, ladra. And in this case, not is so? No, it's more like if were something familiar, but with respect. Like when I reaganio for for, for, to do something? Like it's kind of saddened and so, but no, no

me ladra, no, me gruechon, no, nothing. Like if you're doing instructions. Aha. And there is where not the desperation of, something that wants to do, but it's but it's not detaining. But it's detaining, uh-huh. Yeah. And and, and, me,

is confused because, um, Well, no see, in the court of my papa have presenti things very

that's, that's, that's in the room where my mother, the from my

she's, uh, right I live solo with my brother, but it's a feach

that we don't know we're to get to me have been a past is that I

have found this, um, uh, things so, so, that even people

that even people are that's someone that's doing to do to my or so, so,

that's, so, that's, that's, Brugeria. Uh-huh. And, um, I, um,

I tried to not that's, so, so, there was a time when I had, like,

some, I was, in university, so, about, so, two, two,

two, one, that the Roku, was in the court of my papa, then I

metia I, I, I, I, and, uh, and,

and, uh, and, uh, and, movies. But never

I never could get to get a there. I don't know because I saw. I saw the realty with the

confidence of to let me to get to go to work. Like, oh, I know, like no,

not, like no, I'm not I'm don't know I'm going to get to get to

me, I'm there, and I'm never had experimented that, that no

so many has passed when it has been the paralysis of the Horrible. What sensation

so fea? I remember that I was sitting, and I was and I broke the eyes. And just when I opened the eyes, I said, oh, it's a endojae, I don't know that there in the refrigerator, so, I mean

I didn't know that I had. So when I tried to move me, to parrame, no could. So when I tried to get to, I, didn't even could move the mouth, no

I could emit sound, no could be nothing. Only I'm

going to see, and I'm put to be because I think it's a problem or I mean

I'm not assimilable what I'm was going to be a my mother or my papa

because to you like they like to play luchitas or so I

then I'm just said, me are with a table or because I'm put me move to

and then I and I went over to see a I'm going to see a like a a little, but a pillow

like a like a like a like a and a seconded the respiration I said

not only I was I was I was I was but I could just I

could be the color the black pegated to me that

someone was that someone was so I so I remember to get a

panico but I'm of the pears. I wanted to cry, I could

and I could. And like the same anxiety was, and I'm started to get to do not.

And I got to get to get to and I never. And when I was

you know I'm you're getting a normal. I'm I'm very confused like that

was a a new, no, what happened but I felt so so I still I

still I A little. A little has three gattitos. And one of those cats is always to sleep to be to sleep.

Because he like the places of the little more fresh. A of the other world. Stando in his court,

he always a time to have the two gattitos in his camera, and he know that the other is

back. The cats are much of the customaries. So, so he always he's a quest in the

same part and he a custom to move to a little back to do that's he's

that the catito like he that's like he's like he's like he's a lot on the

catitus he'll do that but he's the pelage more asper no

he doesn't he does a he does a little a bit because the pelage

of the catos can be the type of the alimentation. He does fear that

is having some some type of problem and not that's more more more than the

normal. He's to be able to the name. And then it's the mawilled

the gato, but it sounds from the other side of the room and where it's

the other side and he's not a costado but he has been like the

eyes very, very abirtos and he he'll be to be

to be to be to then then. then he the hand

of the feeling of the pelage that's, because I know that he's talking,

and he's sound at down to the camera like a shoo-ohy but it's

a and it and then it and it so, he mue, he's mow the catitos

and he with the third, he's, he gets the door, it's he'd

to hear of all. Oh, oh, yeah, me record, me record,

like the pelage that you did you did it so, obscure, this,

dark, Neero, Duro. Oh, I don't see, that is of the

occasions that's that's I'm a lot of Okay, okay, Rue

to get to Paralysis of the Sue? Yes, one but

not was in my house, I'm in Austin and this this

this this this I didn't I didn't that

somebody was I'm was I'm I'm done in the

sillon and when I opened the eyes to start me my tia was there, I was there with my, with my sobrina, and he was changing the paul. So my tia was giving me the assail to me, changing the paul to my

and I could see her, if if he'd want to be her but when she was a man, there was a mono. A mono gigante, high, flaco, the manotas gigantes,

coffee, pelon with a somrisa diabolica so horrible and my sobrina

was playing with with the paper and he was so aghached and

the paper that she was she was doing she was having

some some and the other so like those when I see that

I'm he he leva the look at the look at the sonrises so gigante and I just I remember

that I'm scared I'm scared of and I'm trying to to talk to my tia but my

my tia not I could be and I could be and not nothing and I

happened exactly the same I'm I'm to get to get to

until after that I I'm and when I I'm I'm

when I when I I'm I'm I'm I So, and there, if I did a little more of

the second time that was the second time and she said, she was that she was doing that, so, if she was she was changing the pañal to,

the, she was, if I put here the toilet, if I put it on this side, to change it, a per se,

to be the other side, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, and so,

then, we, but you were in the same abitation than the house? We were, standing in that

habitation you've seen the paralysis of the you know, you're going to be but not

you're and you did get dormita because I did get dormita and the

side and she she used always to change to the little that's the

individual but this time was changing in the other on the other the other

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intention of doing to do something was over observe was observing the

my my my my my was so I was

so I and like sunriending and and they he was

he was he he was okay and your tia when

when you what what's what's monos? No, it's that the

little was again again again we're doing if they were not

and they no, if pese that was that was the interaction that he

had no, no the only is the fact that she never never changed

the she I was you were you're you're that you're

that's perceptive visually Mm-hmm. Has discarded the possibility of an hallucination?

Mm. Well, I prefer I prefer I never, I'd get me to panic.

Sure. But, so, so, so I'm made a idea that what I

had been in the room in the room, in the room. Mm-hmm. So,

when I went to this, and now there was, more, more that I

I was a that if she had passed, that was the fact that

she was using other other other than another I'm I'm

aterro and I'm know, I'm don't know to blocker it because if

I'm getting more more I'm susceptible to be things because my

family like much are there and I know they're more

sensible than other and I'm I'm I'm I'm

had passed the my vis-a- -o- -o- -oh- and that had been

about him and things so, also, also also, I'm

I'm a little the story of the person who really to do you

a lot and I said to my family of the that the little that was

that I was that I wanted to not want to not to be so

so then so like I had many people that you

are very sensitive and is that you are you can't feel, and is that you

could you could do you know, I'm interested if so, or if I'm not,

I'm, I'm, I'm also, I'm really, too, the whole of the story,

and the stories and like, sensations, that's that's that I'm that's

that's so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because I'm having a

question social, to you you're being very sensible, and you, and I

know, I'm, I'm, that I'm a I was in houses of someone and

I sentia that something I thought that I said to hey, here, there's a there's

there's you know, I know, so I'm not. So, then I'm don't know, I don't

want to know more. Okay. Senties presences like an atmosphere cargada or like

someone there simply no, an atmosphere carried. A atmosphere carried. Yeah.

So, no, there were points in the zone specific. If there were In those

That's I'm going to I'm going to I'm sure That's there But not That's More the

atmosphere Cargared Aya Simply like With the My Rade I'm Fivable

In a Okay Okay Okay Where you Where you You're In what

You're You're You're In the Spaghetti In the In the Spal

In the It's Like It's Like It's Like a Pessor

It's It's in the back and in the back so they put in

the pen in the penes so in the like a like a like a

like a so you know is tension in muscles no it's like a shock

electric yeah the electricity the electricity subia to or

back yeah yeah it up up and I felt like

my hair and so I'm not like no because the be you

the be you have a muscle, the vector, that's like when you say, I'm put

the skin of the skinnito. Yes, the muscle so I'm, so I'm so I'm

never I never had seen it when it's when it's when it's in the brain,

but it's but you in the head, like your, like your, like your hair

are you like, erisand so uh, yeah. I've got a doubt I'm,

I'm a question, I'm you're very perceptive and sensible with your So,

So, so this sensation of the head surgia from a state

emotional that you had or is like that that's that he was,

then I would be provoked to be making to the school with my

family or that that I was so, and in certain

places to where we were, I was, I was with my And so, you know,

and only for pass for that place to go, oh, I see. That's a sensation.

Yeah. Yeah. So, always in the same area, always is the same way.

Yes. And you could be attacked at the Risa in million things and you could be

coplar. I mean, I could feel like the, the, the, and I'm

in the court and pass her but I go, but I'm to go, I'm,

I'd I was not because I evitably the power to be something the power to be able to you talk to another way that esthetically were very well,

so that no there were any disparator a medium, medium, yeah, in the house of my

my friend has a house precious in Chippinke and all and there I was illuminated and in the place that

more I liked that had his salah with spejos and had his

cubar and there is where we're going to to go to this monopoly or study or so that there was there's where

oh yeah if you know Frankus Camilla yeah yeah he said that he

he he went he did go to no see the date he to go

to a a a a in Mate Huala when when they

went to he he got he he had

his advanced, the people that go there on scenarios, with the and he's there's a no,

so if one or two days. But he gets after the team. And the people, they're saying,

Oye, they're going, they're doing, he's going to getter on those things, that's very medos,

that's not they're doing, I'm not going to be working and yeah. And they say, well, for

you know, so, he's just a part of a new a new So, the

Comunicado. He started the show and he was an experience horrible.

While I'm doing the show, I'm going to hear a a risa of a little

that resaltes over the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of the rest of my

time and I think I think the reason that the backcones of the back

the show. About with the encarguess, let's hear, tell them, that's a little bit that's

a little bit of a little in the little in the little bit in the balcony's in the right. And so it's, no it's.

And so, well, because I used in my left, and the right of the public,

the left your. And then he said, it's it's a end up. From

from there I'm going to come to this way. So, so I think that

from the experiences personal there are some of the yeah no can't blocker in a certain manner that

sensibility. Logged that's the time? Much times yes, I've been been much

more than perceptive. Of a repent when I'm so when I think I'm a tension

yeah, another again me invader the panico and me will be very

very when no, no. So, and that and that I'm so,

because, I mean, I have passed things that that people at the other and I feel something, and I'm like, oh, that libeo. When you have seen this and

these presences, has not all the difference between one and other? Yes, because in one, I feel panico and in the other only, like, like, like,

like, with a commodity, like, with permission, here I'm going to be a, but. Like, like,

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, the space. Okay, okay. But in the other is panico.

In the, there's one that is panic. The panic, the panic, the panic, surge of the sensation of that, if that's, if that were a type of creature, would be a creature that's doing what? No, I'm, I'm seeing as a person. Never has seen that are creatures. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. So, I'm doing and malays intentions. With bad intentions. Uh-huh. What type of intention

would be for the panic that you, that's not so if it's for the antecedent of what has

been the family, but I feel to lastimar. Lastimary physically? Yes. Yes,

physically. Goalpeart, arrohart, etc. Yeah, to dovesuas. Okay, okay, okay,

okay, okay. Sientes like the possibility of that effect your integrity So, that's, that's

could appear to a sudden to be a sudden to be afraid, or so. These entities do you? You're,

that's that are you feel like, yeah, because, because, the more I'm more,

I'm sure, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, more I'm feel possible that's, I'm going to

be more furs, more presentes. Uh-huh. Like, as if, as you, as you'll

you'll more real, or more viable of to make a reality. That's a good point.

Let me, mark us a difference. Entre more panic you're more reales because you

are more susceptible, so if you are you're so the stimulus is the same but your

sensibility is the thing you so it was a thing that was thinking that's

feeling that that's feeling that that's that occurs much in cases of transornosososives, like the misinfonia, that you hear of a person

that mask, exactly, but no, it's not changing really the sound, what is changing the sensibility your. So, in that division, what is it

is your sensibility or what is the level of presence of the other? No, I think is my sensibility. Okay. So,

not necessarily, then, so, so, not necessarily, then, so it's, to you get more sensible.

Yes, more sensible. More susceptible. As a parenthesis, how do you are you're going going to be super well?

Super good. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I was going to get to get in anxiety

and so. And no, the truth even, even, these stories that I've done in my

case and that oh, oh, well, this is it so I'm going to house of my

tia, I'm living in my house and and no and it doesn't like to

keep them the power, so, the power of that me SIGG-a-tortmenting.

Of course, I've done that the podcast has hailed much for that and so the people are in the fear,

they're exorcisar- from the thematic and could they'd talk to them more. Like, like,

to be it more objectively. Yes, exactly. At final, I think, that these are phenomena,

like the thing, the new in-s- it was, that had been to provoke me a need,

he was to give to computators is for car to cagartre the risa. So, that way, he has

you know, so how you've done to be able to the solitory? But, as a kind of kind of has educated the

television to that the strange, assustate, you know, that reaction. But it doesn't

because reactionar so if a subrina you'd if you did a that,

what would do you that sounded weird that we're a good a good

a good and we're doing to do things in situations of this type. Because

we're we're we're we're to get us and really that's

we're very limited Oh, very limited like in the antiqued when

the people were very serratitos and they had a particular

different different instantar it or you destroy or I'm

there no option intermediary to be a point. So, it's like,

I think with a new education could have this type of reactions. What do you think is

in turn to that? I think, I'm very so I'm so, I'm very so it's

been in the whole the history. This, when there valiantes that's affronted

to discover the inexplicable and they're and they do this like the

love, the the things that those, so, things that have

not have done to have more civilized so what's how that

a part of this can't discover some it's that's

not a kind of also as energy electric or not so

so so so so so so so but

so I think I think that I think we're that we're that

we're that we're that we're that has and what is what is

you have to you have to you have to you're to you

Like the The kids. The kids can see a a phantasm and you know, ah, is that the

little is that the little. When they're not done they're doing, no. So,

that's that is that it is inherent to these phenomena necessarily the pavor. That's

that's the way. Ah, yeah. Exactly. And it seems to that in

the tapas time after a interaction with this type of, no see,

how how you call it, this reality, or these entities, and not necessarily, all are negative. So it's like a generalization excessive, without necessity of doing. And justly, soloped by the torpeza

of how is panic, from where I'm going to, well, eradicke us to all. So, so interesting, what interesting is this? I was seeing, that as far as there are people, that these situations

let's take them the world, a time in that I were all the thing. And I'm a couple of

things and I said, all right to say, I don't want to know what after

yeah, this was in more 10 years. I discover a story that's me made

very rar because it's two vertientes. I see a series of television

that me put the little the pen and it's made

a American Horror Story. In the first the second time is so

strange, so enfermisa and more in the time in the time I think it's a way to be

not generate that reaction but in the moment yeah. And it's what I'm saying I

feel like really really very bad and when when it comes

the coven that is something like the larry of bruchas they

situan in New Orleans in a house in a tal Lora Lora

Delfin like the Laura Delphina. When I saw that time, I read nothing

of a question, no I didn't know I did not interesting. And now,

many years after, I top with that Nicholas Case bought that house.

The house was of the Lored Delfin. And in 1800,

at finales of 1,700 and initials of 1800, she

she matto a lot of people in that house. She

was in the Slavitutes in New Orleans, which is much more Slavitut than the rest of North America, and to the

Slavos created a zone in the last one in the last one in the last year, women, women, all the

all the age, and they were tortures, let us was the suffering and experimented with the persons.

They were people very very very infirmas. One day it's incendia the house and

and, all incendiars, all the family who knew, because I knew that they were to discover what they

in that the other the person. The people discover what there there.

Discovering the the bodies, discover the cameras of and they

want dinchars but they're in the place. The history

continued with that after that happened on 10

years before that the people reconstruct the house,

they had other other other the state and they put it in times.

It was made a lot of new things and said the proprietors that all the articles, despite of

those were all destroyed and they were people passing in the passings and they were they're saying laments,

they're saying the day of today to say they're one of the other the other people

the people. Nicholas Cage wanted to write a book

of terror. And he said, exactly. Compra the property. It's going to the place and no durer 24 hours. Salve it

out of there and never he'll gollie to and say, that's one of the places most embruched that there.

Like, there are places that encirran this and make that they they're they're

so, but for what he's is, that's interactuant and if they're in a finality, it would be in the of the Nicosk that says that nobody is there.

So, they're not to make to all the people who are very very similar to this person

of the second is your abuel? Well, Tatarawuel. Tatarabuel. Tatarabuel. The tatarabuel.

So, so it is this Tatarabuel also doesn't that he and he doesn't

have so and like not have so much you can what you plan you

but it's it's a very interesting this is like if it was a realho of who

was in life yeah so so right so so so

so so so it's like it's like we we're we

and what we're to remain after after this that's

that's that that's interesting because he does a

different to the that we we're we we

we're in the practice Hey, you know other story there? Well, in Villalama

there are muchimates. Incluso, the level of, yeah, of, the,

the, of the people there's like, ah, the lady that's the time,

yeah, and it's, all the of the right, she's going to be so,

the people, she's, all this type of things, that's like, ah,

in Villalama, pass a a lady a lady, the house of my my tia, is like if it was a different like, well, I don't know, how to say it, well, it's a lot of, because it's different houses in a same terrain, and between the

houses, there's a garden, and a, and, um, a techito and so, but all the, it's abitadied, and only one is the that is abitated, no, so when we go, there, we're we're not, because they're remodeled, and all, so. So, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the, in the,

my tia, no has remodeled as well-anyed her air-lavated. So, she'd dormia with the door-abirt. I was a mosquito to a port-abier, to get to

do the fresh with the air-lavowed, but it was out of the patio. So, it's, that she,

that she does she let me pass every night and that pass two, three times. So,

it's, it's, it's, it goes to after-at- where there, because So, do

the world, and then disappears in the where's where's the barred

for the and the other than the other says, that's over the pass over the

passio, does the back and he's to make to make a car's

so, so the not interactos with no. No. No,

you you're you're just a and no and just he's

so his way. And okay trespass the pared?

Yes. The is that these phenomena I think to startles to divide and classify

that there are some of the I've seen it's really very mystificated that's when I'm when he was

a new occurred this situation in his and from he says that he he's trying he with

he with he with the conversation because they're like a ball of a lot of the

the Scalier and enter for a parer, cross in front of

all and of a repented, and in that moment I'm there's a there's

a lot of this actor, that's also of the art martial

a day is a day is that in the light and he in the reale

a manse and that the person was like a light of a

light of when I'm this stage van as well it's and it's

he's going to the place that's a person and more in this time very imponent

and more the type of the movies that's a person of action of arts martial and

and he says well if there exists something but these

phenomena that we could we're we're really are really

so much are things that are so they don't have to be that the

capacities of the person that I know or with the characteristics

of the event in-in-s like the case that you know, it's

that it seems that the people can see the materialization of this so,

that maybe visually is something for the redundancy but

the phenomenon in- not interact with them not not

not the person she just just does whiltas. In

the case my my side of the other side of my time I'm going to have been a chero of things very rare. In the wall of the other side of the other side, before we have said the tachito, where we're

made to the peter and has madeles of pietra, with bancos of pietra, a peter, all is to the pyrr. So, we just we'll, the tachito. The, the, the,

the, that was connected with the house of the, the, of the land, the house, of my t'a, was a kebrated.

was a kebrada completely caida so you could see to the terrain but it was a house abandoned completely

so it was a house like a middle derrumbed with yeah plantas in the middle

and into of that very abandoned and they said that they'd they were those children

because the house so in the part of the part of that right just in where it's

on the techito of my tea is in where was the garden of that house.

And when we never never happened, but when they were there in the reunions in the techito, many of them they'd have been tuesday. A bit of a caballito or sonajas

or the like, as a pedas of a pelota, they were inventable, and then for my Tia and so, they'd have a much

risa, because she no see what has, that he doesn't know what he has no more. But to

his invitators, then they were going to be able to there, until that it was

better than that the people could interact with in the techito because no they

they were in pass. And that that house was unobitated many years,

until they were to start to and to live the experience, when they were constructing the hotel just there

a lot of the house, the people were in the cera in front, because they said that the children no

they were when they were in the construction or there in the banqueta. So, as they were

people who were there they were to come to the work, and they were sleeping bags and they

were in the piece. And, and Dormian in the So, in the cera in front, because the children

not they'd And they'd They'd They'd They'd They'd They'd They'd

They'd They'd And they're On the same Cemento, the wheytas Then They'd

They'd say, No, I'm just I'm just I'm just I'm I'm I'm here

But they're In front And then And the Hotel has Entr'd in

No, no, I've indagado, but I know that's a- Yeah, she's Yeah, it's interesting, but no me la-se. Very well, that's interesting for to go to

revisit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, in the area, in the area. It's all

of stories. Yeah, I'm sure. I'm, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for the

story that you talked about a little when you were a guy, if you you're the cantante

Demilobato? Ah, yeah. De Milo Kenta, She was being a little she was a little bit of a imaginary and that

her family also not he presented to attention. Until that one day he said, My amiga with the I'm a little she's a child and is the of that she was the

house in that they had a old oldenicimo that pertaince to the house from the two years the parents. The papas were soothed and then the

her manna let's say, ah, yes, and she live in the closet.

And then they started to know to a little that the doors of the closet is so it

so it's so it was a moment had a interaction with something that

she could see, but the not, but that was in the house.

If has been many this type of situations, no, the phantasms

it doesn't important if you're famous or not you're known but I

know that for the anecdotes that I've know that are the people who can be

I think because they're less distortion their their reality or your perception

so as they're they're able to to to

to discover the world not not still not

still so social social so so or as a adult they're

to begin to cegar every more to convert them to like us like we're

someone who's socially is functional and for that certain areas is preferable that not

they're I think very Seila me I'm I'm want to

one of the stories more raras that me have said is

the paralysis of the but it extrana for various details. One chick is a dormita,

and he does the can't move, he's being the court, and he's to see that

the door is to start a subject because he had the torso of a

man, but he had the feet of an animal that he was not

was to and the was the was like a cabra a

of her head they were in some cairns and the corns and the

then she starts to her she can't move she's entering in a panic

absolute and she he bufa in the car where he vented the aliento

she she sent all that sensation of umed only in this part of the

rost she levanted that that comes to the door and

the moment in the moment in the If you seeer the door, she can move with normality, and she his car mojada. Only in that zone. Oh, no. I think that there are paralysis of

the sunno, and I think that there are other type of phenomena very similar. Uh-huh. What is the difference? Who knows? But we can't even ask you to indigando. Poco a little.

Do you say, do you know, is all? Much thanks for invite me, of the, this. family nocturn, I hope you I'm going to have been in this episode

we'll see in the next program. That passen an espelodent in the night and twos and sweeties

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