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Episode Date: May 12, 2022

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Let us That's what No. Episode 7 Contacto With Spritus Mirna, thanks for

accept the invitation. Thanks for to be here. How are you? Super well. Super well. Yeah,

and I'mosurated for being in this program. Yeah, you've been a first in a

first time? No, the first for that I feel like, a little a little

of nerve. Yeah. It's, but do with the type of podcast, so is

that that's that to function well, I mean, I said, you know,

about there, is this? Well, yes, I have stories that's many, but at the most,

but a lot no more, it's a time for the but some. I like the reto. What do you

if we see, we're just, and for that this is an interchambo just,

I'm I'm going to talk about another. Andal. After a little, me

told them a story that's me made of the more extra. A chick

that I know I can say that is a bit of rational. No, her

thematic not are the questions spiritual. Me says that there's a one,

you can say history or legend within of her family, but that many

of the members of the family they have and

it in a little in a her house, he'll talk in the

door, he'll open, and at the moment to open, he top to a new a friend of his wife,

that is the abuelito of my friend. This the best of him gets to to be

to see his husband, because I want to the she was a molestow, and he

said, let's see to be here, no, I'm not you're not

not quite insistent, and and she she's enoja, open the door and he He starts to gritty her, perada,

she molesta much. Then finally the other sir, encabronarice, she'll be. But very, very, very enoged. The lady now shegues her day normal.

In the night she was to dream. And at last three of the morning and he starts a dream very entranquil and he begins to feel that she

asphyxia. And where he opens the eyes, see a sombre over to her and they're are cork and he'll look to

look to be some his and the sir and the he's like the second

the suns the sunbra and then the thing the time the sunbara disappear and he's he's got to be that's totally done that's

totally done to final, yeah was great the woman. Uh-huh.

To the day the next to know that that's the last three

of the morning in a hospital, because he did, he he did

infart, a heart, a don't in the and the hospital

fellio at the last three of the morning. So, the she was

was really impacted because he said, I'm so I did he

did so he went to to And you're going to Tiredle the Pots

As correct No, no it's correct. No, no it's A bit Tell me

a story I'll tell me a story that well I mean have

many of many my really attention because I was I

was I in my house had to that was like

these castes an in that is all a

churicic so you we had then the sala, then an antecomedore,

the comedore, the comedore, the comedore, sub you were a recamara, and then it was a house, and then two recamars. So,

passing to the terrace, the first recamara was the, the, that was of my and my and my, and the next

was the other of my other than, I, when I, when I, I was, I was trying,

was soying well much people like it's like like it

was like when it's when it's when you your your soul of the your

and you can't you see so I'm I was observing that was

I'm I'm I'm a feeling a very very

very very very very but at the time I'm

much of the eyes and cross the terrace and to take a water. It was a, it was a fear of terror. I mean, not just like, like, I'm a little bit of a bit.

It was, it was, it was, it was a little bit paralyzable. So, this, I was, I was going to my body and said, I, is that how do I do? No, I want to start. I mean, I don't want to, I'm

want to open the eyes and, and, I mean, but I'm a lot of sad. So, one, no, I was a well,

not I saw I'm just a more I'm just a like a silhouette black, but

that me was a pass and that me said, no you know, that's what that's

what you that's so, so if you, if you, if you still, you're,

you're, you're, they're going to keep to not voice,

this, me I met to my body and I know the and I'm

obviously still seeing that fear, I'm paralyzed but I was saying

or I still seeing that sensation of that voice that I said, no

you have got to I did the hand so I put in a punio and I

said, no I don't I'm so I'm I'm I'm out

my recamara cruce the terrace and in the trajectory that I was crossing the terrace, I had crossed the

hands and like repitending to me myself, no I'm not I'm afraid, no I'm sorry, I don't, I don't I'm

no, I'm no I'm afraid, and with the hands like in in a punio right? Like that that sense,

I said, me had a sensation like of a sort of a sort of like if I were to

to watchar no. So, so I, I, I, And I said, no, I'm, I mean, I said, in voice Alta, I said, no, I'm afraid.

I'm a carque to the kitchen, I brie the griff for to take water, and where I took the first sorbo of, of water, I felt that me gave them a nalgada, or a, so, a goal of that you, what, what, what, who's, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, who, in all the trajectory that I,

I felt that I was that someone I don't I'm doing, but I'm saying like, I'm saying,

I'd be a way, but it's like physical, but like, physical, but I'm, when I

back, that I'm that I, I said, no, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I, like, I'm, like, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, he's, and I'm a energy that's, like, that, that,

that that you did you to do you to get to go to and he

went and he did count that you yeah that's that you was like instantane

that that was that was like that yeah no that that

that that that was that that I was he was so

I'm so I and it is something there there is something that

was real not was I I see I mean, I ask,

I'm a a question to it's, this, imaginaries, or if really, something?

Uh, ha, I have a count. I mean, I said that I'm real

because I'm so, so, because finally I back I, finally,

I'm, I mean, but if you, you, you're, you know, that's,

when I I've put it when I'm put to when I feel something

at a presence and, and I feel the the movie that you say

that's that's it erisa the hairies to the hair. I'm

always I'm the response that are the demons or phantasas not

not very gratis and when I'm I'm that I know I am in

peace with the presence that I can feel that are angels or

that are that are that are that just they're that

they're say or that they're saying, or that's a little a lot of

different energies in each one of the presences. Yes. Some are some are a menaceant

or negative. Or negative. It's that I mean, to say, oh, how demonios? Because there

there are people that are people who are many people let's this, this, no,

spiritus of the back astral or things for the style. I, in the

personal, those tradus like demons or almas in pen or not in pen, because there are many souls in pen, but there are many, but

that are in a level low, for say it. And, they're in Los Angeles, those that are, those that are the way, for saying, so, that are messages more profound,

I'm, I'm, that are angels, that are ones good, or that even are people who have fallen and

that are to say me some a message for someone. Okay.

You've had been experiences then of contact direct and an interaction with these

entities? Yes. So, for example, in a work that I've, in my

first day of work, it was a state, I was, I got,

I, I'm, I said, you're going to be you're saying,

you're going to be something we did we do we know something, of the, of how it was, of the, I mean, I was just, I was, I was, I was, I was just I was, being what on. So, in the salita where we were,

there was a, there was a sillon, and there I was sated, well, as I was all a whole world, to a a young, and there was another senior, and they were to other people who were attending. This senior was waiting.

So I said, well, well, right they're going to attender. So I was, I was there was a

paradilla and I'm just not going to and then I'm going to say, hey, me, me to be for,

this, uh, what you're to try to the, to do you, or what so I,

so I'm so I'm in occasions and one of those occasions and one of those times, I'm worried

because never I that they were that they So, this, I came to the kitchen and I was

an company, and I said, I said, I'm going to the other or what? And then then they said,

what's the he said, he said a man, he said, he said, he's that we're not attend them,

we're just they're just never enter in the young. And I I'm kidding, oh, so,

how? Me, he said, what's what was, and I, and I, the description?

The description? and me they say, no, he said, but I said, but I said I'm going to

I'm kind of, because I'm, in that moment I, I, I, I was, I know, I know, I,

not a person, like you, I, not a other person? A other person, I,

never was transparent for to say, like, like, for a form,

or a sombra, or something, or something, or a so, I, so, so, people,

I mean, it was the hours and we're always super atentas in the work that we're not time,

to get to eat, nor do you, so, nothing. So, then, so, it was the day and the

night, that's all the whole world, yeah, then it's like, what, what, you know,

so, yeah, they're just there's, now, now, now, so,

now, let's, let's, I'm, I'm, I thought, I thought, I was,

I thought, I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, that of a repent

I know it's no, it we don't we don't

we do this and they know it's how it was a not

and I was a man he's a middle and not very

really like maybe 10 10 or about d'all this

yeah yeah a redont a middle calvito and

and and I and I and I said all started to make

that is Don Ramon and I and who and who

is Don Ramon. He says, no, you say, here up, once a person had a

therapy and had a photo of his father, and for the description, we know that was he

was he said, but he said, oh, no, well, I said, and,

and he said, but she're, they're, they're, uh, they're, uh,

so, like, like, I'm, like, And I said, oh, well, well, well, well, yeah, I said, no, well, it's

well, I'm justed, because yeah is something I'm, well, I'm, well, I'm going to say with what I live. Yeah, you've been many times? Yeah, many times.

Yeah, many times. So, I'm, well, so, so, so, so, so, it's good. And me said, you're, to say, to say, to the, to the, to the, I'm

a little bit, how's the name? This, and I, like, I, like, for what what I'm going to say,

I mean, that's a need to, but, this, in, in other, in other,

so, in other occasions, although I had the man, I was, this,

the sensation of that I was saying, that was, I, how it, like, how I,

in that occasion, that I, sat down, like, like, in other occasions,

the form in that he was, It was like that I was like I was working in something

and he was like as a as a ashmra in movement exactly if he

was able the silhouette of him but not that you could you say he made

one 60 for but but yeah no I was like

I was the first so even even even even even that even

even I had a sensation of that I mean, it's that I'm not that

it's not a kind of a perception of the message that's that I'm

that's that's that I'm in peace and then I'm so I'm my wife

and he said, oh yeah is that I'm a I'm I'm I'm

I'm like a like a aborot for this and then then the then the

thing maybe the maybe is the thing or a Peligree,

ni is he. I mean, we're doing a, a person to the person that's,

and the person, I'm in there. So, a day a, the, the, she's,

for, for, and we, and I, and me, and my, my, my,

my, my, my, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, but,

while, while, while, I'm, so, how, how, Well, it's good

Goodsard, let me say Let me say, I'm saying, like, how how I'm saying, I mean, I'm saying,

well, it's fine, I'm doing, I'm doing an introduction, and then you you know, that's,

I like, more, I'm going to like, how I'm going to say, to say, this,

no? So, then it's that when I'm, I'm saying, oh, Everro,

me said, and then I said, and then, and then, result, that, that I,

that I see, that I, that and he said or me he said that he he said that you know that should be there's just to be

he's just that he's he's more in peace is that tranquil he's he's a feel and that you not so he's so he started

she's like to you're very recatatantly because there was much people in the salon and me says you know what he says you know what I said you're saying you

infinitely that you're saying that. Because, because from the year past, I'm carrying the the peso of

that my father's murder and no me cance to be to him. He said,

because I was here. So, me, cause a that, that, that,

that's, knowing that he had been, and I was not, I was done in that

moment. So, so, so, so, I'm, so, I'm,

that have been not been not been or not he'll say, and all the that's like,

that's like you're like me you're saying, that's I'm saying, no, don't you

don't you don't know. So, it was like a cycle in that he was so, coincidentally

after that, I don't see to see, a, yeah, no, you know, I don't

see, I don't see, I'm going to see, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm just He just He also He also He also He has He said

That's So, he He said. So, they were seeing being other type of

sombras because there was another entity, for say, in that

salon, that is like a little, and I said a little because

her complexion was a backita, even was even was

a complexion of one of the one of the companions. And then,

it was like, like, a bigita of no, 50, for saying, with the

hair, long, and never to know that we're doing to and I was the

only that I was the other one of a so, a sometimes my companyers also,

this, uh, we're we're just we're with this other companyera

that we we're we're and we're a sometimes we need to sometimes we

need something, we're not not to not to leave a client a

there if we we'd be you see that someone about we had that we

need to the person that's a person that's that's we're and we

say we say we try me this and that I'm I'm I'm

we're we're we're we're we're we we're we're

a and the other and the other and the and the and the

movement. The SOMB in movement? Well, I, in occasions I saw see the

clear. But generally was the sombre in movement, but that that's that's

that's if you do you do you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, visth periferic. Yeah. So, so is, that is

like, that is, like, a, not really like a, no, a sombrer,

but But if you veys physically to that person with the visceral with the visceral. So, I mean, you know, it's this, uh, it's, uh, a sombra negras, like in other occasions that, that

they present, or that's more common that other people know, like, as well, like, as far as the color. Uh-huh, yeah, uh-huh. And was translucida or was normal? No, no, it was normal. Normal?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, and the other people do they'd be like, um, So, it's that they, so,

they're so they're like, so they're they're doing, this, his

role, but a more not so real, as well, I'm not so, I'm a

perception of each one different, but if we were and we we're the

same, because at the hour to say, well, how you it's, it's that

has that has, it's that so, I see but at the most I see the

I see the I'm sure they were in more like like a type sombra more transparent I don't know

I mean no more not a detail yes exactly but if we're in that

was the same person here. Here you this story that me that you

have this is a little what you you're saying it resulta

that a person known we let's let's put the

name of Erica Erica is in her car me

he's a adult but this he's a old he's been a day in

his he's going to do not and in the night be at the

night a but the was a little was a very very

she was she was she she she was like the the the world

like if was a focus behind of her like, almost illuminated,

and me made to feel a really good really a really good really a really little

very beautiful, he said, like the moenek like those peinados very antivus

and the and the not it was not really because it was like a

light between celeste and black but so they were those solan

that is like this is like this is like this is like 20, maybe.

So, when I was a little I simply lived that situation being at the same,

I was I'm rey, because it was what I made and I taped and they started

my cobiha. And where I was a little was going to be a and I wasomable and I

had to be it and I tacked to the Risa and it was

like we were to tapar and and she was and I rea. I was tapable and she

me stoppava. Until I said, yeah, for favor, let me doorme. And in that

my mom very preoccupied and says, with who you're talking? He said, with the little,

and he said, when I signaled, yeah no, I'm going to do

do not. Passed the years. My mom has a time during much time

about my amiginalists, but I remember perfectly what I see. Passing the years and recording, I'm I do a count that the face of her

was the same rostro of my abuela, but in the little, so the ral is that my old is that my wiserable.

And so it's externe. A day in a platic with a family and I said, you know,

that's I'm going to tell you. Well, what's what happened is this. The only that I generate

a little that I She was in. And that's a same face, but in a little,

and the ball was to get to get a girl. She was her

she was that. She was there. No, no, there's photography,

for the time, there's there, but the description, the old is my

man, that's what you what you're doing, the type of the type of

the type of the type of the type of all so, so,

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she's always it was something very very doloroso that no I don't want that nobody knew that

that's a day. And there another story that I want to you know,

I'm the event that's to have much fear to to come

to your house and then then that that that

there there there can definitely provoking in we're

there there there there so there but they're

they're a and there a story you do you do you do

the movies of yeah because I'm I'm I'm I'm another

other other thing and a right of the real that

was I'll know that first me I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm so I'm maybe I'm I'm

so I'm that story, I'll you what you what you

was the what you was a I'm in a costada and I I'm from my

my body and I a a voyage astral. A a voyage astral. And so

I was a one side of my camera and this, well at

the first I was at a side to then it was

like like up so but the sensation of my

I mean, I was I was seeing my body, but I saw what my body

felt like my whole. So, in my body, I was to see that I

had to me up to the up. Very very long but at the same

time that that I heard, I was a sound, like, I'm

going to do, but is that is that, like, like, like,

like an animal, that so, so, So, like, like, like a little bit of grunyed.

Grunyed, like, so. Okay. So, obviously, the sound, the sensation, this, the start me, I was being, my body,

was something aterrador, and I was what to do, and I was to see, that that thing, that

was upia, and me, me, I was going to get a orca. So, when I was was

Orkando, obviously, I was, I was, that I was, that's, that's, he's,

I mean I'm not, I'm, I'm, not, I'm want to, this,

help me, I know, you know, you're here, and I know, and if

me going to do, I'm not my life, said I, I'm, protect me

my soul, I'm, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm

I'm, and I And then I put, I had to my own to know that my body, I opened the eyes, and I said, for a favor, I was, yeah,

like, no, I was like, I, I was like, I, the voice, I said, like, I was, this, help me. And in that

moment I had a question that was an onerckon, the rule, and in my head, well, no, I can do do you do

with the audiophones, but I got that I felt some hands in my head that me, me, me, made it's hard, and it was a terror, I was completely paralyzed by the sensation that had, and then I said, I'm in your hands, and

me put to rest. First, the Father-Nusory, then the Ave-Maria, and the Gloria. And when reese the glory, I had It was like that it was like, that's it was the sensation of here that were on

orcading, so, they're taking the hands or that I sentient in the head. And the sound was from where I was in the, in the, in the o'id. And it's kind of in the middle of the recamara. So, so it's it, it was very

very strong. And in that, well, I said, I'd say, I'd say, Father Nusre, Mary, Gloria, I still resando, resando, resando, and of a repent,

he was on the television, and in that time, I had played the television, because I chocked, that was,

that was, that was, that was, it was, it, was my desperator, the tele, then, then

me chockable, that's , that's , because typical, that's always are not things that always

always sentia that, that I, I, I was, I absorbia all those those news before the

and then I didn't know. I'm going to go to put the rosario and so I'm like to put the day,

the tele with the rosario and in that moment the sound and all, all that perception or

sensation or sensation that was a fear of the fear of the so it

had been an aspirator and that it was it was I was inmediate. And so, I said, to count that I, in that moment,

I did, thanks to God, I'm doing, I'm alive, and yeah, or the count that for me was a sensation horrible.

But no, I, no, I didn't, I mean, I said, I said, I, obviously, for me,

was a demonio, so, but what I wanted, or what, I, I know, I didn't,

I'd a logic, of what was, of what that was what was going to

what was what was what was going to work and I did my life normal to the

a little months or days because I don't remember the the movie

the movie of when when it I mean for me it was like

practically was something something was a what I did I

did you was that that was the that was that was the you do you

she's the She's she has she has to have various episodes

with the devil well in the movie but then then she go to a city

to study and in her university of her you know there's there

so in your dormitory when when who who says yeah

she posion this demonio she she starts the the

demonio and the demonio that sensation Dan in the in the movie

that's like that's like that's that's and it and he

that's a very very very much to be to be to be

to be to that's what I know that obviously for me

the to what I did in that I did it and

obviously God so so for that not so

that so You've heard of the The movie of The Conjure? The movie of The Conjure Mark an

before in the film of terror but there are some anecdotes that are very interesting

that they passed to the actors before the one of the other of the people that is the chick

that's the girl., you're, in the world, in the world, and, and... But this actress He said that He said that he said that He said with the Verdiard

was a through the webcamp They were talking there to terminate like the

final the and the talk she was going to continue with the investigation

to get more in the person and in that moment he was from

where was from the computer and at moment to gores the the

screen is the and there's three garras marked in the

page. And she he took a photograph to do a photographia to do you

during the roadage getting yeah at the final of the film

get to get to that that was that was a kind of a

type of a presence and at a time she's her

So she said that it was it was it was like a demonio he was

a menaceing and I said a few years I'm not, that I'm in the thing, that's, I'm going to be able to be able to do you? It's not, I'm sure, I'm sure, but it's not, it's a lot of it. What has heard of

the 3 of the morning? That is the hour the hour of the world of

that all the world or that people know, but that much of these

presences or things are in things are present at the 3 of the

morning or for example that you you get you

you just the the night or 3 and 4

or but it's at that that that energies are more active.

More active. I have heard that it was the hour of because it's supposed that the creency is that

Jesus Christ was the 3 of the and it's like the word of God, this is the hour of

the devil. So it's interesting. It's interesting. Yeah, if one wants to if one wants

to get to do you guys, so it's something. Soceding. It's interesting. Here you go to a story, something that they were told.

And when they were told them, they were in aterridden. It's something very simple. But I have much in the credence that when they're not going to the things, the most basic

that make your world has been form and I think that you're where you start a little more the terror. A chick

had a collection of a real. She had a collection of and a mulek. And conserved a a moke

of when was a little. It was a one a manned a manned a little

a little the one the manned the muneka and it was part of the functions of

the moñe and he's to be and so he's he's he's arra

he had many many years to use he he's he's

he's he he's that he had pilas bigisis but there Simply,

Saka a pair of PILAS and LIS. Passing a month, the moñecca

will be to be and he he's he's extrano, and she says,

I think that's like, he's like, he got to some

the months, and now the moke is in the center of

your room, that she was always always she was always

she did he is very I'm very strange and he said probably the chick that me

that's she can't make a little she's and she go back in the moke

now without the noise of the voices is coming out of your

room for the the not fluid and so and they get in the room

and he and he said and I say I said I'm here I think it

I'm I'm going to the last Then, the I took and let me the trashed in the

bad Sures. Dyes after, when I in my dreams, I still listening the

voice and the movement of the moke. But the aterrador is that what I

felt that that that was I'm going to the place in the

that always I'm not I'm not from from me

but he was I felt out there and

that I to feel to me. So it's like if were these these cases

of entities that are the things. The things, yeah, to make you make a

fear to you. Of the actually, a me happened a very very

very very very in their house you was like a

cochera very very and there there there had her

his meced to sit and the one was

the a room and there there were windows and there was a other side and the other side was

like a room where I had the room and I'm a lot of many great and I

know how explain to because they're of these windows like that are part of

the part of the you're you're you're you're so you not you

do you don't you know then then in an occasion that

we're we we've had been we've been in a other prima

in a a fiesta or something, and I regressed very late at the house, then I got to get those doors, no had to come to enter. My Tia, yeah was dormied, and,

uh, there was my recamara. So, no more I had I just I had I got to the, the ventana, right? It was a rollo, but finally it was, the

case is that in the camera, my Tia had, a lot of people that, that had, you had given her, and he had he was

He had regalado to her a year a lot of an elmo of these elm of those elm

cosquillas that he pickable the psalas and said ohla I'm a old I'm

so that so at the elm si had pilas and he plas and all

total that with the time then the probably the probably the pils just that

that was that was that was that day when I met I don't make a

Rueido I'm going to get to I don't know I'm going to I'm going to get into the window and we

met him to my camera because it was what was immediately opening the the ventana was the

elmo over the place so where we did we we did we we're we're plasas

and he and I'm know what I'm saying I see I'm in this moment in this moment

it's me in this moment it's to the feet. Because, one, because, you know,

because, you know, with the reason, and that's that you're to get a mono,

to be able to and then you know, that's, you know, that's, it's a kind of,

what, and we're to get it to be a little, no, because my t' my t'o'

no, so, we're just, I'm just, you know, I'm just, like, But,

in the moment you say, how is possible? So, that of a repent, the mukeitos

agriety those energies. Yes. Ubicas, you've seen some movie, has seen,

a movie of this actress Mexican, Marti Gareda has a program with Jordi

Rosado that's called a much, a podcast. Yes, I've seen. Yes.

They've have seen like a section that are some episodes specials that are

of a very paranormal. Martha says that she was during many years

in the house of her and in the house of there was she was there's a

house of the house of many times. But there are two events. And if put in a DVD

of this movie of Disney fantasy that's a particular that's a particular

that's like with many messages like many many and there's a scene

in that that's and she's up and she does she she's she yeah

that when they're when I'm when when he when he the scene in the

the world the DVD is detient only it's and it

to be the same scene. She will go up and open up. Abre the garage. She detain. So, she says, ah, yeah, not they're not they're going to

with that. And the primo, that was the he said, is that nobody is doing that that's going to that.

The control is separate of all of all. And then we to get to put a scene, and then again to get the

DVD, they're all right, they're doing, they're doing. In those days, he's the

and his mom the soceso and his mom never had ever had never been there's

yeah my kid put to rest yeah let him do it a little whatever

whatever and it and it and it that day standing the two in the

same in the night they they're they're a where

where they want where they want to get the car of the

car that were that there so it so it so it's

but they're they're they're they're moving much Like, like if they

They'd like they'd Or so, more than is that you'd know that I'm Exactly. Exactly. Ta, tat,

ta, ta, ta, so, then the mom and he comes to the door and says Martha, and he's,

what is? He says, well, if they're there's, who's? And I open the

door, and the chapa and there's no, and there's and she was moving the chapa

when he moved the door. Regresa, siara the door, and I'll

to be to see with a face sorpended so as like no understanding what

and the chapter and then the again to start to get a moment you know you know that's a

movement of a moment and that's a new and a other way and other and other

again and the and the door and the and he said my mom and he

says Martha to her um a reza so so

those those are those those those those are the things

that we're on on other other other Roddy Rosado

if another role and these programs. He he's a person

very a person very miedos that he is a normal is a thing

that's a thing that never he has a very marked that he's that

his family he he he he he he his

mom he he's he was he was he was he was he

if not I was in other radio, I was in the programs previous, but yeah was in

this line of presentator of programs or the creator of the content of the

television. When she is about to fall to have a play in the

he says mom, you know I have a fear terrible to all

the things that are like those things because he

he he's being he he he he was in the

entry of his court he was a very a man who a man

he's he said he said he's going to see you say he's he's

he's he got to go to because he was terrible all the time

the the father's not he he could be the

end of they're like they're like hallucinations or my

imaginations or When they're in that Platic, he said, Prometem, for favor, that if one that you have fallen to

contact me, never will be able to do you, never. No, you're going to do you want to be nothing.

And so we're going to the mother, she says, I'm going to say, I'm going to let's say,

no, you're going to make you want to be going to and there, look, the two

we're going to, and you're kind of that's I'm the time. The mama fell in years after

many years after he's he's a time of a time he's a little bit of her mama. His

herman he says oh yeah fithete that you have been doing like many

different take care caret and he he's like he's he's he's

he and he's he and his time he's we're not we're we're very

well, but we're both in two in vizs very separate so we're never we're so that we know there

no way in the so there's so it's me is rare and yeah pass the time, receive another

another time and me say, hey, fiftate that I've a very strange and you'd

he'd and he he said like, and like for what this thing,

no, so if you have you a new so I'm yeah, he's, no,

no, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm to share because I'm with Moma

and the other he said, no, me say, no, I'm saying, no, I'm doing so, I'm a chance

and then you know a chance to let me look and say, I said, I'm sure that I that I'm

a little a voyage to be a out of my body, I was a place that was a

there was a man, and I'm my mom and my mom so be very content and me

said, look, and we we're we're cabana in the you're you're

you're you're a with a shirt red or a little badiated

and you you're doing a man and you have been and you don't let we're going

to be to be to start because he's so then I'm

I I'm I'm I but it was a but it's

a but it was a so he's And then he's He's kind of Like,

he's kind of When do you know He said In a year New The 31 Yeah, It's too

Passed Two months And he He's And he said You know You know In a year

New When we We're In the Caban Yeah You You know

The day of year Yeah Yeah You You put You You put

The suit He's How I'm He said How I He said Yeah Yeah

In the part of the Cama There like some arcos and you no-se-porked you, you know because pretend you to

get to get a point-up to get up on top-as-a-reve- and said, then I entered a spondos and said, what-caro's going to be. And he said,

I said, I said, what you said, what you said, what you said, it was like I was done that's a

thing, and you say, you have to say, but, I need to give a permission, no?

And the her mother, you know, like, what on? You know, you know, says,

yes, then you know, I'm, I'm just to the whole life, I'm going with the

people who fellsier. But, no, no, I said, so I said, I

said, I've been talking to a lot, and I know, and you and you

and you and you don't want to he and then he said, how,

how fregato you know, and if he's, he's, no, me's he's

I'm not going to right. So, he says, you know what to say, Moma? I think it's

important. And he says, no, manches, no, no, no me digas. So, really me

really do much fear. He's me an opportunity like to digererer. And so

they've passed a year for that I wanted to she. She's me gave a

card. And me said, this is what you want to say, Moma, when I

want to do you do you do the time. And then then then then he

he says, to be, what demonious is that? Like, how you talk about you? And she says, look, it was so, all the

life, like, to me, me have been that kind of and that was the husband, that's the

time, was a great reporter that was a lot of premiums, he had had been

an investigation and they were doing and they're and then he eligued frauds paranormal,

psychics, and all this type of things. So the investigation It was in turn Like the The Vida

If it's Or no And the frauds Intorned So the quat So the quat So the quote To desemascarming

This is to Where did And so And it's Toap a Family of Franceses That's

They've In Mexico These These They're They're They're They've

Foyeced Because Manehan Auxux in a system that's a transcommunication.

You have heard a one of one ever. No. I don't I've been heard.

It's by means of the apparatus, generate a type of the ondas in the

which your message can get to these and they respond. So he says,

well, this is more than obvious that is a chafencia not. This can be prepared

of a many manners. So, Jordy, when me said, when me

said, how can believe in that. That's stupidness. He said, he was he was able to

until that they've started to do that they're in the house they did it, they did

with him, he did in the places that he went in this place, and they

are in the they were to know that they're to be with him, with his

life, with his business, with the things that they said, you know you,

d'clock, we can do this experiment or the forms that we're because this is a exist and if it's

simply and simply and simply it's a form of contact with that energy and he'll

explain a little how is at the final he said the investigation

so far that he he terminated he's he said is true if it's there's

something they're they're they're they're they they're they

they're they're Wow. That's And there are and there are about the transcommunication

but there are many people that are that those books that are the trans the communication that they're

doing. As we've mentioned we have we have been talked about there there are

things that one can investigate but at the final of the day those

books and those information is based that every person wants to communicate.

And it's a lot to get to get a message that's not a

whole real or is more super relative to what is real? I mean, or so,

like, exaggerated. Yeah. If you want to the message. Exactly.

Of, the, of the things exist, but there much people that for

for to be more interesting or that's more attractive to the other people and that can be able to

or that can attract, then they're exaggerate a more sometimes a little for that it's real

for it. Do you? Do you? Do you? Do you? Cres, or so, like a

actually, or is the doubt of if there's something after this life? No, I

think is that is that more well, I feel that we're

to exist. Okay. How is that? Simply that we're

simply that we're a reality physical to a reality spiritual. I mean

we're we're staying here but in other in other level

or in other in other frequency or no see how explain

but we're still being in different manner. In this world, in this planet, or is like other

thing? Well, it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's like, in reality, I feel like, like, like, we're, like, we're doing, even, all in the universe. So, this, um, this, we're going to be here, but in, I'll, I think, in, in other level, in other reality, for to say. And

it's our conscience and our perception of us, we're going to we're doing we in that

other level. From your we're saying, we're doing to be able to do that. Uh, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I've got to go to this logic for saying, in

when to the religious, us had been to the Catholic, no,

the other creencies that there are, an, an a, a,

a, And it's not it's And it's And it's a lot of and the state of

me, a stedia, an stardial of the soul, so if you're you're

or you do you this this reality physical in a in a sensation

out of disconnected of God that God is the all

for say so so your own is a kind of

as a or like disconnected of that so it

so it's kind of in a like a limbo where

the the or your you do what is

the you see a and it's something that

is a something that is a support for say.

For so, in the, in the church or in the, in the, in the,

in the, in the, in the thing's, it's a a, it's a, a fire,

and the and the and the soul, when you know, when you know, when you

get this reality physical and you're connected with a something, or so, with,

with, so, with the then, so, so, all your

all- your all- is connected with that all, and still

being being being being being no Siente that soledadad or that

that that that's that I'm not I'm so and for this

well for me exists like that that's that the so

are two realities different and not it's I'm I'm going to go to

the end of I'm going to be to keep I'm I'm

being for the rest of the eternity physically physically or

or the logic we'll see those yams and all the reality is that the soul is that in a

in a in a soledade in a in a in a little in a

place that obviously not he doesn't and for that's the suffering

eternal because yeah I'm yeah I'm yeah the

part physical yeah you yeah no there no

there there no there to connect to exactly

and that I I'll say, not is a question in that

we're going to let's more of the question, yeah, I'm not question, I'm going to

I'm here. You think that in that reality in that's about the demonies?

Yes. Because is the state of them? Uh-huh. So, that's the part in

that they live. And no, no, or, no, no, soporting

that there there are these other almas or these angels or or that are in that

plenitude of being, is that how is possible that they're not, and they're to absorb that energy? So,

for that we're like they're like, so there's so there's, so there's, for saying the envidia and all of that,

if we give us a logic physical to these sensations, then we'd we'd we'd

You with the perceptions that you have seen, of the phantasmas for those that me have put,

entities that not are of the world of the human, like the kind of what kind of you have

done with us if they're so if could be different what would be people people who

were people and they're saying there's there the people

that that they're that they're that they're like the almas in penna, normal,

or so, religious, or, Catholicly, you'd, these, the almas in purgatory? Okay. And,

there are there are that are condenades, that you know can't be, to be,

to be, to be, so, so, so, so, can say that are

the ones that are in, in the In the infirno. And they're the demons and they're in the angels. So, so it could say like the entities

that perceive are the almas of the diffunits that are like contendent, the almas of the persons that transcended those not can't. The almas of the persons that were,

those are in, between commas, condensate? Those, if they're to get to perceive here? Yes, if they're getting to perceive okay, because they're like in a cycle interminable and disconnected of that all.

Exactly. Angels and demons. And demons. Now, a doubt. In question of the persons that

are the people who are there are stories that me have been told that it that are

different types. One, are, in the stories that you know, in the

stories that you know, that you tell you, that you are, that you're in

this stethica, first you the spirit, the presence and you see a that he has a message.

And one once he did the message, but the little but also didn't interact

with you. So, one interact with the reality and the other no, not,

not. For me, it's like if, like if were, like if his life

would have been happy for to say and they want

abandoning that sensation to be in the place where where they were where were where they're

feeling and they're so they're so they're and they're and they're they're so I'm

I'm saying it's like it's like they're in a in a burbouca and they move in

that this reality for saying like like the like the like

the movie of the other like like type like the like the

those other. Okay, okay. When you have perceived these presences, they notice that you can't you? In some occasions, yes. For example, me has passed in many occasions, that I

go managing, especially of the night. This, the day, no I've put that tension because, apart, for example, when me to see, some person a person a so

so I'm like the day or so that's like I'm that they're not even when I'm saying that's that's not I don't know

I can't because I don't know because I'm like you like you so so so but in the night

if I can at the differential that's so they're vivorous or that they're one because

at times me it's time I'm trying that I'm I'm going to accompany and other because I go it's a place where

it's rare that there was a person coming down. So, me has passed that I'm going to

go to and I'm doing the night, that I'm in the road, so in the way.

So, so, for example, well, those that we've been in Monterey we know,

we know, we know, the avenue constitution, for and that is, I don't it's,

I mean, because if you enter for Santa Catarina has the name, I know know, I think Carlos Salinas, but then

more later it's become in constitution and then here for the airport, yeah to get to the

airport in Miguel of the Madrid, but all that this avenue is

practically constitution. So, for the room of where I live, there are

areas in that is in the area of the river of Santa Catarina

and you say you to at the hour that I'm going to say 12,

one of the morning, that a time in a day in a other thing, or a reunion, something that

I'm going to a time, and you're at these hours, in this specific place,

it's very rare that there's a person and that's that's coming out like if

was a place, you say, you, Taka, because apart that area, no there's

a banquet. I mean the avenue. So, then you don't have much sense of what I'm doing.

Ah, exactly. So, there are people, or so, there are, places that I've seen people like,

and I'm going, oh, well, this, there's people, I'm going to, maybe there were there were, or at

the more, this, there, that's energy, and they're, like, in, like, in the

movie of the other, living in a reality, there, or, repetitive, even,

or so, because at the more they're constantly there's there's there's

so, like, the people have these of the carterters that said, and I

came I was in Sackatecas or something, and it was up the I'm up

the word that are, I'm, that are living a reality and they they're

they're they're obviously with different people, right? I'm

told just in this story of the carreterer that a chick I would have

a child his family his his abuel was going because her old she was

she was managing and they're not all they're that's they're very palid

they're supponian that they're doing a kind of and they say what what's

what's you're you're you're being and the little bit a little bit

a little tembrose and he didn't they don't they're not they're They said, they were on the

Sheka, that was the She said, I said, I said, I said, The chavo, with a Camisa of Raias, that no had a head. And then, the oldita says, yes. And he says, yes, if, if, if, if I when I wastie, yeah not was

and the ballita, like like, so, it in the car. Respira, so tranquillisa, can't the other person conduce, no, no a little. Like 10 years after this child, she has been

her family, and has her own family, and standing, talking with a woman, from her room, from her carterter, and he begins to come to the patio, and then, see how his perrito, he

is going to and he goes, ladrano, and it goes on the recorriot. The question is, in occasions, these presences, when they notice that those perceived, you can't see? Yes. For that

the legends that say, it's, I'm sub- so, the world, it's, the they don't have no

problem because they're like they're in a reality enfrascated and not they're not any a

message or an something are like a roggy and it's exactly so even

sometimes they're even to get to move things in the house and nothing

so a sometimes I feel that that's just just

just to just they're still or you want to a time you

know, you're you're to you're and you do you do

and you don't see in other part. See? Like, for

me, I feel that's to be necessary to do something to

do to that's to do that when there is when

there is when there is exactly exactly there are

there are these spirits that are a force this

this and that and that they're in that you want to you're a

or they're a force or one or to be to be to be because

I feel when when I said the angel in this other situation

they're they're they're they're they're they're to make that you

can't create in this fear and this a energy

that you exhaled or that you And they're and they're and they're and they're

and they're and they're they're more. So you're like a battery for them?

For them exactly. And then and attract more like they more more fervets or

or they're more spirits. So it's so like something that's like something

and in those cases I'm that I'm necessary to this

or a one, a bendition of the house or an exorcism or, this,

start every certain time in your house. I, for example,

a sometimes, I'm to put bars with water and a little of sugar

or or salt like that these almas there be they,

so embevan with that energy or to put incensos for that energy

is more a more a or more, this, positive, so, obviously, like, repeal that other energy negative.

Dehas to be a battery of the element for them. Exactly. Yeah, because, you know, they're not attractive at that's right.

Exactly. Because you're going, with those, with those actions, you're going to start to be in peace, a person to

there an, an animal there, you're going to be a part, because the important is

to make, like a circle between you and those and those energies or those those are those demons or

those demons a doubt that you don't you know you know that you

have to have to have to but I have this doubt the the

the end of the ritual and of the amuleto or

this type of things like the water with the

water is in because those objects those, of some

way have power or for what it has emanar

to and that is what is what is the thing in the barrier.

I'm I'm a little because is also what is also

the water limpia the water quita the water

doesn't the has a barid for to say. So,

if these almas, talking of what you said, are in an stadium where

there is there's there's, where no there no, there's where they

have said, where they're all putting them the water, they're going to

get to get to there what they need. And I know if you

have done, but in my experience I've put, for say,

a box with water, for to say, a bit of a

lot, and if there are energy in the house or that

that water is a start to do a

day to do you do no it has that the

water is evapor to today to day to

and and it evapor a quantity a So,

I'm pretty So I go, that's functioning for me, for that they are in and not of

my energy, me, you know, so it's, like, I'm, like, I'm,

not like, the water, has to they can absorb what they need, we're, let's see

I'm, let's you're, you're, you're, there, not in me, that's you can't

you, like you to be able to get to you, and so you put you're in those

entities that they're they're in another other side, because they're doing a other thing,

or other other cause, they're just the you're just that you're just you're in

that's you know, that's a more, and that's that also, that's so it's

so it's so it's kind of, okay, okay, I'm trying. At least, so is how has functioned or

that's it's a or that's not that I have given a significate like you like you

like a even I'm even I'm even I'm in amuletos because there people, no see,

that makes morralitos and that they puten petrits and semittittas and things for the

style that to attract the abundance for to say so so I

in this type of things I don't I don't I feel that I mean

my energy in that because that is the that is the that is the that is not

I mean I don't think in that in that part if I think that the people are

that are because we're because are not because are created so you

are you are rastra molecules of of no-se-year-a-year-a-old, because they're super-antigues, that obviously, they're in a certain energy, but not at the grade of saying, this is to be able to help

to have a better job or things for the style, if, me understand. That part of amulet, no, I think. Or, at least I don't let's do that responsibility to a, a little bitrita, or a morealito, or things for the style, no. Who has the responsibility At the final

That part I'm good Because of times That part So it's a part So confunded And the people What are

Literally a solution magical A little bit of A problems To get Exactly And then And then

And then And then Is the Now it's Now it's This phrase That says You create

Your Realidad Or what Cres Creeas So So I feel that is based that phrases

in that you are responsible of your life. You, or so, you know you can't put it's the fault of that the morralito no me functioned. Or the morralito, this,

well, me said that it was for this, but me is doing other things. And no, or so, open the eyes. This,

you have to give you to what is what you're doing, what is what not you're You're not you're doing and

see the reality. And obviously I'm going to create my own own to make the eyes

and see a what's where I'm to come in you know, so there's what you do.

So there are things that are that are that's not a and much people

so much people. For them magicas. Exactly. And this he's also,

apart to send things magic of the necessity of the people of to look

these recetas magicas so that it's rapid exactly there's

there there there there there classificated and commii

because this is an area so is an area too there many

there there is a clarivin that is the clearivincy that is

the clear audienia that is to hear that other not

not we're part of the phenomena that you've been but there's one that especially me give

the attention that is the premonition that is the having information or know things that have been

done to happen has been something? A situation with my mom in the in the

transcurs that she was there was there there there you know

you know you know there's there a church of there

And that much people, I mean, so, is so is so it's, that's

that was that was, and, so, that there were much faith in, in,

in, that was that there's that were, exactly. So, my mom

was, I was to go to that to go to that there was a time in the

that it was to transfer to my mom to because yeah, the cancer

that took my my mom was Cervicutrino and, And his his

pierna so he inched that he was chloe he was not a parted because

the the pain was terrible so terrible. So so

so it in one occasion he a a friend to my

mom to visit her and he said Laura what he

he said no well is that I'm so I'm so right I'm

not I'm so I'm He said, but this not is possible? I mean, so the

week last you went to a mis? And did you the lecture? And he said, no, no,

no, I'm not I'm I'm not. And I said, no, my mom has been like a

month of that she can't get to and we put we we're in the

chair of and we're and we we don't let have he's

he and the she's and the she's You said, is that you were at Missa,

you did the lecture, you gothast and then at the final of the we said, we're

we'll desped us a little occasion? Tal qual, and we and we're so, how,

how, how, how it's and it was a, the time, the she had

a very identified to the she, yeah, so, because for the

senior was a second a week before. What age had had the senior? Well,

I think like my mom, 40 and something, yeah. So, no,

not, it was a senior major for some problem of memory. Uh, exactly.

No, it was like my mom. Me, me, you had commented

that when your mom was in the pedicement that had that

that was that for me is one of the one of the

other you want When when mom, I was that when mom passed many things, but for example, there was, when the infirmity of mom, it was more advanced. Obviously, the

disorders were much more fertes. So, we had to injecter morphina and you know you know, a medicament a lot of different. That even, even, that we'd gettabes, a

bit, no, no, control the dolor, or, a, a past of that, but, this, no, we'd, we'd injectal more because my

mom hallucinaba or so she was going in in his combinations

with the with the with the medication my mom oh hallucinable so

in those situations me happened that for example there was a

camera and I saw a a man parada a

a a a I always I traduke as the

that was the that was doing a presentia like to go to go to start

that's a question. It would be the word? Well, no,

that is a perception that I do. Why? Because the

because the be it like a a woman so for the how

seenia the tunica the vestido. And always I always had like if they were in a position

like if were in a position, so, so, his, his, was like, like,

he was like, the role of the man, for saying it, so I'm so that when that

she was a present, in the camera of my mom, my mom always was in a trance

of the medicament and of the pain, so my mom always was talking, just when

was that presentia that I saw, And that presence, you know, you're and you're

and she was there? She was there because never I did the front. So, always I

or the side or or the back. Or the the back? Yeah. For the

the back, how you did you? You got to be my house, I don't

say, it's like a matter, it's like a churiceito. So, so we're in the area that was

the comedor and adapt a camera there for that my mom no subiara, but that

there's so that because I'm I'm incarriage I was to do to make to make,

and all my so, so from the kitchen to where was my mom,

I could see, and listen and listen if I needed a something. So when

I was in the kitchen it was that I saw the that I had the

the position in that was the camera was that I could be to see a a

that person but she was she giving me the yeah so I'm so you you're

you're so that you're exactly I was in the kitchen or in the

commer or in the commer and my mom was in what I would be

doing the okay so so we so we're so and she

she was there was there was there was there there And at some moment

You saw you? When you were, no when it was but I was but I was I never perceived like the movement of that

was it was or that disappeared before me no, but I was saying, it was to say, I was to

continue doing what was doing and then I was and then I didn't have. What sensation you did?

What you mentioned in the presences that you have said? One you generate fear. Others you

know, with her I felt a pass. I said, I felt a tranquillity of that

the mom is talking with her so I never I'm never seen fear that's so

interesting so so I did pass many things so

rars or or phantasmagoric in those in those situations so

for what did one day to just ability is like to develop

them more to make them to make them to see that I'm a part of a part

of that that I did that the demonio of the of Emily Rose Uh

yeah yeah like I like I is that is that yeah and I

don't so I'm blockied completely the things because it's a natural exactly

I don't know I can negate what what I'm what I'm what what

what's what's what there's there's there not I don't

not not I know not I'm a more because it's

something because even and that's I think in the of my

creencers what what is what is exist this duality of the

I physical and the y' the y' spiritual so in the the life of the

you physical is there where one perceives the fearsive the the

fear, the that you can't be static that you can't move

so in that I prefer I prefer this better this I'm

okay yeah I prefer prefer to maintain to paint

the ral like yeah yeah so yeah no to do you know, because even

even spiritually you can you can't be able to be able to be and you

say I'm going to have to not have fear but you can't separate because

we're because we don't separate the part physical so so it

has has it has one to very very very

to those sensations because I there And yeah intervine the part psychological and the part

emotional and spiritual. Exactly. So, so I'm that in the person not I'm so much so I'm not so much. In those moments, the three

persons. Sure, not you can't start to regular all the way if it's even that's even manageable.

Uh-huh. Okay. There's a issue in special that you've lived that says, that's the courted direct

so that no, I'm going to try, not I don't know to be, I'm going

to be to be a not a to be a a bit of a no, I mean,

I'm like I'm interested in these things and I'm doing this I'm doing those practice.

No, you know that's, that's, there can't know, there's there.

There are this is a, this is this is I do I do do I do

do I'm manage. For example, the pendulos. When one works with pendulos, as much

people, say, the whiha or the cards, they're also, these energies. So, for example, I'm saying that sometimes with the pendulos,

that energy is more the energy property that that you, that you're, that you're, that through that

putencilio and that just can manage the you. You're getting used your energy.

Exactly. But yeah, at working with other things, then then it's like

an space where can enter other more energies. Yeah, is connect to the

current of the light, the of all. Exactly. Exactly. So,

there there are things that I can practice not at

100, but is like something for me. But there things in that I'm here,

no. For example, the Uiha there's no. You know, you know, that's like a

connection to that spiritual, not your energy personal. Exactly. There's,

there, there can, it can be just, it's just, because so, because so,

so, because so, they're, but when does it a verader connection, there is,

like, it's, as, to the current direct. And if you know

what I said that's that's power to be to control the three

people of the I'm to over carma the and it he'll do you

and it yeah. Yeah. Mantently to the safe zone in a safe zone,

in a same there's there any any any any you

want to you want to you I think that are

open to all these things, but if you have the precautions necessary

at the order to practice them to who want to do you want, if you're

someone, if you're that has a ability to perceive things and you have

to try to to to that you can perceive those things and it's something normal,

natural. Very good. No, no, no, I'm going to have accepted the invitation.

Thanks to the family nocturna and we are seeing in the next episode. Adios.

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