HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP014 CONCIENCIAS DESPIERTAS - HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EXPERIENCIAS PARANORMALES

Episode Date: June 24, 2022

EP014 CONCIENCIAS DESPIERTAS - HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EXPERIENCIAS PARANORMALESHoy con Lily plantearemos unas hipótesis acerca de las conciencias despiertas.Contaremos casos acerca de Doppelgangers.Como algunas entidades malevolas buscan deshacerse de los guardianes de los niños, porque su luz los atrae.por cierto si quieres formar parte de la (FN) FAMILIA NOCTURNA, mándame mensaje por INSTAGRAM

Welcome to Family Nighturna. The day of today we, we're going to go to Lily. Lily, how you?

Hello, very too, many thanks for invite me. Well, too, I'm also,

I'm did you know, more than I've got, that I'm that I'm that you're that's right?

As far as some, not muchisive but, but, but, yes, interesting.

If there there are various? Yes. What do you think, if to be just those,

I'm going to you a story. I'm the idea. You're you know

that in the pandemic we've changed the life practically to all the humanity.

Uh-huh. And just the time of pandemic, for the new applications that

were on their TikTok, many people who didn't know the things were in

the social were to be and started to do

something when this It also started in that it was a great quantity of the

population that was using the applications. I suppose that for the isolation there was a certain

ram of the science, in concrete the medicine that was an option all the social

to be to be aterisar and be more more more than the people with the

people and about the problems that there or the situations that more

recurrent they were in their consultory. of all these influencers medical there's one

of the I want to talk about today is the doctor Pausuniga she was she was having a very good awke

and I had more to a million of people that was doing you and of it was

strange but his followers started to interest much in his

personal and he asked she had repeated a lot if she had

had one day she tried to to tell the experience she she said

the experience even a experience, although not is super aterrador until the day of today

she makes very un-tankila for what what occurred. The medical

in his last year of a career normally have a

internado in that they have in the two seven

in the year in this year having his practice was in

a a little. He was in a hospital. And, and they're they're in a lot of people with a

person major. Standing in the media, it's a house and they get to do a surgery of

urgency. They're they're that one of the arteries is damaged. Just when they

were putting a, a, a, a respirator to be a dormice because the

person was in the state of this state like a conscience. Thank you.

It's correct. When I was going to and out of this state of inconscience of a repent I'd

turn to places in those that no I'm never get no me get, for favor

no me I want to go and I'm going to go and I'm going and the doctorer

really our career that that's when when the people have

these type of affections they're to get to have customers, of a certain form,

the woman, the she was the the bathroom. And to get to the place, it was a big place where there were more doors. Only was the bathroom of the

people that were in the hospital. He gets, open the door, the sierra, and, standing in the few seconds, pateen the door very hard. Where the pattea, it's a alter a little,

but then, then, then he thinks, it. It's been to some infirmary that's molest, because it's has been the bathroom. Then thence,

he says, I'm a little bit to get to be. And in that see how the cerrador is a

move. And he's yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sorry. And then to clean

the rostro, the door, the door, and in that that's over the door.

If it comes to the passillo, no, there's and he starts the

calculation. There's form in that someone gets to the final of the

passillo in three seconds that are in the I'll be, and he says, no. But that's what he does fear. What he does what is what she goes, when he goes to the door, and, at see the door, and, at the

door, it's top a little is the cylinder of the key. For it's not has a ladder. As she came, all

altered, no he percat was to be at the moment of that's there. And then Kai, that what there was, and what had been to be in there. Exactly. That's what she has been she, alter.

She said that's the only situation that has lived, but that's been sufficient for saying, yes, if there's something more. Totally of according to her. I also think. You think that exists something more? Sure. Muchis'est things.

things, energies, I don't know how I'm going to say there's levels of conscience also that we're

that we're not we're the level of conscience to perceive absolutely everything everything

everything you're you're about you're like meditations like budist

transcendentalist or of other type of Conscience. Well, not so, I suppose

that a level of a question that can get in some point to work

to be simply to be that's that that's that form of

that that is like the capacity to perceive to understand to

process certain things. I'm simply the simply the brain

not simply the functional the 100%. So there are many things that we're doing we or that's

not because not because not it's there. Or not we can't. It's not because it's not really sense what I'm

saying what I'm saying no I'm not I'm talking much and say nothing. There's there.

There's well, falle or is disappeared. The doctor Jacobo Grimberg that he

was a neurolog of the UNAM and he in his had made many

studies quite strange but that they have done results

that they have done that they do you do you and they they're

and they're that what we are definitely not not all but

but but you have proved in many ways

in that he specifically he specifically he said he said

there was that even super the velocity of

the light. It's something that is a way of our laws

and the experiment that he was he was I've mentioned some in this episode,

is that in some cameras Faraday, that are these cameras that are these cameras that put

a group of people in those that he had to interactuaran by through

meditations that he would be under a process that generated like a

a pincus strong between them. One that's one of this,

he was separate about, it was a camera different where not they were

to be and it and was a lot to the one of both.

But both had electrodes to do the process

cerebral and both had the same when only

one only one only the one in the camera

farada and it is suppone that it's that's a

kind of any of any of the question between the electromagneticism. And then says it's a

kind of kind of of a kind of that's a real thing, but the experiment

has repeated in multiple occasions in different laboratories and the result is the result of the

very good totally I mean I do so I'm so I'm There are things that that

that's they're in, I don't how to explain them, no, without

sense, they're in a reason. So, recently a little time,

my old was, my mother, a few months, and that day,

I was super anxious. No, I was, I was, I was, so,

so, so, so, so, that's, that's, and so, tachicardia,

and I, I took a medication for the anxiety and me took and I was I'm taking with nothing and I'm

like I'm so I'm feeling me feel like I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying

and so and so and that there's my mama so and immediately it was like

that way oh yeah I mean I've seen a correlation between your sensations and what

was and in that moment it was like yeah I had said

and me me me calme Bajoerun the Paltice of all. Yeah, I go Igued

but, but, but, but, so, it's like that that's a,

in certain like, something, but I'm what's what I'm , well, it's,

well, what happened, when, when did this of your old, in a year? In

December. Okay. What was first, the part emotive or the reaction physiological?

What was the first what was the first thing you, that you you when when

when you know, before you when you're this reaction? The anxiety? Uh-huh. Was the sensation

of anxiety? Yes. So, an anxiety what the is the thing is that's

different ways but you know, but particularly in that moment I felt like a

pressure in the and of a heart like the kind of you know like you

see like so you like I mean's of yore I mean,

that that that necessity, that's that necessity, that's that's the

very, this, and, so, that's right basically. Has many years,

one day was a second of the faculty and and while he was

coming to a house of a house of a great,

and I really a great really very very but it was a

super extra and it was a not it's my really a it's like

the it's like the thing that's something there's something that I've

never ever and then the phrase today is a day very very

very very because I'm why I'm thinking that I'm

I'm I'm where I'm when I turn in I'm

to open me. And resulta that they've to chock two two towers in New York.

Just in the moment yeah. But it coincide the time in the

moment in the first was the moment in the time, more or less or the thing,

but I never got to go back because it was a sensation very rare. Lily,

tell me my story. My story, well, is that I have some some.

Could we start chronologically with the lastiment of and Donny, my baby. Well, my

little this this sequel in particular so I did it I'm I took a

And Doni this I had days of the naceido some days after because the

first two nights not dormina but some five days after

is, I started a a, a, a, a, a new, a

in a to start, I was in the, in the, in my court, where,

where not was in that was my dream, I was, my moment,

I was coming with my father, I was born, I'm born, I'm, then I'm, then I'm,

but in my son, I was in my apartment, in my in my in my car

with Andoni and I in this thence and then and I and I was in

he was and then kind of type activity paranormal or I saw I

like something like I was and I had and I and so

I'm and I'm back and I and I just two days

in one one one one the first the I

do to go, but it was to make a recurrent. Tenia like, a lot

maybe a couple of seven months the last time that I'm that I'm that I'm doing that

that's a time, I'm that's exactly the same, I was just being in my department

normal, I saw, I, I, I, I was called a little the court,

as I had to be all, at this, and it was, that, of like if me quixier

like I like I'm my spouse and I'm said, oh, yeah, what the

is that, I'm explained a I don't I remember the conversation exactly, but I

remember that me got me got much of the and I remember that I

was, there's there's there's much a lot in the so

so all that's all around it's that's something that's

something chido, it's something or is something. I mean, of a different type of,

exactly. Exactly. Or energetic, no, see. But, but they attract,

that's, that thing new and luminouser, for so so say to say. So,

so, so, if it's something, it's a good, the first they're

to say, and me and I'm to talk to some family, of something of the

first that was, was that were that were the animals of the house. So,

like when there's a kind of a kind of a energy negative, or that's going to

or that's a lot, no see. Yes. Um, well, they're going to the media

to the like the guardians, that are the guardian. In this case, being I, the mom

of the life or of what is, was, it was, it was, it's,

it's, I'm, so, my so, my suhue, and if I'm,

I'm saying, I'm trying to get them to get them to know, so it's so I'm so much,

but, I'm quite, I mean, I used, I mean, I used, like, I'm,

like, maybe, I know, but so, like, this, what, what,

I'm, I'm trying to record it, because I'm doing it, I'm going to do not recentlyly,

but it's like, like, in my, so, type, programation neurolinguistic

or so, to imagine like a camp energetic to me around and a circle

secure and a particular for my baby, because it was what in that was in that was

that's super hormonal obviously and that was a really and my baby depended completely

of me was like, I'm not, I don't not it was a way,

well, X, no, it was it was I'm I'm going to do

something. So, I'm I just like, you know, like, well, we're

like, we're doing, so, simply, uh, manifestating the energy that I'm

around, this type of things. Okay, with or you refer to about, simply your

desires, your desires, or was any of any sort of , I mean, really much

passed in my case. Much of very, so, so, no, it was like,

I'm, I'm, I'm doing, I'm, I'm, so, so, so,

so, no, only, it was, it, I was, I was doing, was,

canalizing my energy, of that way. Like if were a metaphysica, a little? Supposed.

Yes, could be. Okay. Okay, okay. Okay. So, when you did

this, what effect you did that? Um, well, maybe no. Maybe none. Did you say

better? Lacer. Yeah, so, yeah, I mean, I was more,

more, more, more, more, but in all the Or for certain situations or in certain moments of the life that you have like that capacity

to have contact with those things. Yes, one of the things to the I've got to, even if three persons are in the same phenomenon, no, they're not even one's the listen,

others do they, others feel, and it's the same situation. And that also also has to be a little with our receptors. It could be our system organical,

no? That not is the same in each one, also also could be our level energetic, our level of

consciousness, but definitive are three people who are subjects and then a same phenomenon

not we can see a detail what is just because the observer has much to be in the description

that will have done the same person in different moment. Exactly. The same

stimulus in other in other moment. Yes. Existe in the religion

Catholic something that was in the two or three that's called like the parents of the desert.

And this was when it occurred a phenomenon in the great cities that said that they were in the

people had been of the and then they tended to migrate to places as the

there's the question of the desert that are the hermitas and these the

the hermitani and at to do their practices asetical and all the questions like to try to

get to the world, they're going to do this. And they're in their description, from their

theology, that their own life spiritual, as what you said, it's changed, but

enormously. And they're atapas in those they're in the world, practically

in presence of God, or to, you're in the love, and

the of carino, and then the circumstances, although are the same, I'm in a desert

a little bit of in the no time in any time. Petsiae that my routine are still

being used being some one of some kind of different or let's let me be the same

person can be different. Very well. SIGs keep telling your story. It's interesting. So,

well, so that is the part of the the of the own the

there's there was in the I'm I felt like like

something something something something something something one of one of

she was and don't so baby the two were

when I was I was I got I never

I'm one one of one of one of was that was

I'm I was in a Dormida but I'm sitting I'm sitting at I'm sitting because I'd try the theme of the Cesaria

So I'm I'd just And I'd say that I'd say me I'd say I'm gonna I'm sitting with a chero of amuads and with Andoni

here. So I was recarged in the Cavesera with And Doni and with my Mano here Okay

So I was recarged in my man on the the pageer And the and clearly I was really because I was,

I was, I was, I was, I'm, yeah, I'm, just I'm,

like, like, me did you this, so, the hallone of the cabo.

And I started, so, so, so, if you do you get to like,

so, the, the sensation, in the body, in the core of, in the

bodyude. So, so, so, and for this, my man was, so,

was, was, was a, was, my And I went immediately because I said, because he was, my husband.

But no, he was he was done romcando, he was to back on the other side. And he said, I'm sorry,

and I was and I asked and I said, although logically not have been he, he said, I'm gonna

get me the cabo and he's like, what, what's talking? Totally inconsistent. I was,

I was, he was born and I'm, and I said, no, no, that you know. This you've got to have imagined. A

the more you've been, you were you, you're still I was, I'm sorry, I'm, five seconds after I said, no, because I had the man recarragied, or so, how would have been able to hauled me hair, if it was plasped to my man.

And, well, the truth is that, no passed from there, I mean, it was, like, me disperted, I was, like, kind of paniqueed, but no no, no see, one

a second after a, I don't know, my father of my papas, I was going to see it to my father and I was there was a

so much, so I'm going to my dad's a single with an And Doni, and then, and then, I was,

hebecett, I'd say, I'd say doing, so I'm doing, yeah, because when I got to get

I was, I was in a Cuna a viager, and I gotcha a lotter to goch to go to

be quite. I was too. I was I, I, me, I, I,

me, I, and I just in that I, I felt clearly, clearly,

a man so, of that, canast and so, so that, so in the Nalga.

And so, and I went to, and I, so, like, that to be, who was,

and then my Cerever reacted two seconds after that I'm a lot of no one of the yeah,

this, and so, and so, no, it was like, oh, and I'm like,

I'm, there was a idea of there's a other absolutely nothing, I,

so, I, sent me, a man, one, a lot, so, so, so,

so, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

so, okay, you, you're, you're you're going to see she, or she's moving to

or she's to? Yeah, she's, yeah, the hand, so, yeah, the man, so, I mean, I was, I,

I was, I, yeah, I don't see, and I, didn't, any, I mean, nothing, no, so, it's like, me did free, or no,

but, but, clarito, or, so, no, the, the sensation, was, over-ropa,

or back over-Rope? So, over-rop, yeah, have been people, that have

I've been told some experiences similar to the of those. Amongsts, one has explained that the sensation was back-roop, and other is the sensation over-ropa. In some,

some, have heard the sound when they're when they're in a gulp, and in others, no, there's the sensation.

And one person who's made a story, counting on the that she has the mark in the tracero,

but they can be like, a man kind of rar that has almost all the two

equal. Okay. So, and she said, no I was I'm, and at

the moment of the moment of I'm there's un-marked. So, it's,

it's strange. There's a type of entity to the they call the incubus,

which is a type of spirit who has a much connotation sexual at the moment

to interact when it when it's with the cubo when it comes

when it's maybe could be, but now there no more phenomena

in turn to that of that that type. No. Of that not. So,

directly with me yeah no. Those are those are those are the three, or the

three situations that there was from my his son directly with me.

How much time? How much about? Between each each each time

months, years, these two events, these two events, these two situations

were seguiditas. Segitita. Yeah. So, it was one, the next or the other, but

the other of the dreams was what was the more. Okay. While you you were in this situation,

you're doing those dreams? Yes. Not all the nights, but if, let us,

let us, at least two or three a month. One, two, or three a month. The

dream, is exactly exactly. The same was the same was the same thing? What do

the thing was the moment of the of the kind of like, like,

like, like, vulnerability. Yeah. I mean, I was like, so,

so, I was, so, I was, I had to be, to be, to be,

to be, I'm, I'm, to be, like, with the area, so,

I mean, to be back up, up, because if no, I, so,

I, my Spalda my Because it was like, okay, here I'm a, this way. No, no Pazza nothing. But at this side, I'm observing. You're saying, you know, that's not vulnerable and at least, I'm not sure. No. What the past is that, I'm a person with anxiety a

person with an other. It's a factor to considerate. Yeah. And, and very probably was

very suggestionate. But, but it was, it was, it was, like, simply, totally my

around was, it was, I, was, I was, I'm, there,

there was, a lot, a malgama of emotions, none positive. Yes, and so,

I was, I, of, of, that, with my my baby. So,

So, like that SENTIDIDLY OF Partiction maternal? Exactly. That if If there's something, I'm going to have to

get to get to the chingasas I'm my responsibility although it's my husband, but it was like

that that's a sensation. Yeah. There's a chica of Monterrey that's

Riza. Riza has a channel in YouTube in that he has a

lot of stories paranormal and stories of different. But she has

an anecdote when she was a little, that is interesting. He said that his family, the family of his abelos, his abuelos, had been bought a house that they

called the house maldita. But not was a maldita, because it washer something over-natural. It was maldita because the maldita house no, they could have beenend. And then, then, they had many times battling with the intent of the venta.

Until, a day, the mom of Reisa, she was pied to live during a time. For this, Raeis, in this time, had around of eight years. before to go

there is a she has a an anecdote very that's a and nobody he wants

to then he and he he says the anecdote at the final a a little

a little a little and the she says yeah but not you

don't you tell you and he the mother of the mother of the the

mother of the she's the she's another but the her

she had fallen a years before so that That was the anecdote.

And Raiza was he did like a quote of a story, but not more. But yeah when she went to

live there, he said that they were to be going to do things rare. First, they started

to hear like that were like, they were some new the house during the night.

This house not very sure for how it described. He had ventanals

very great, had much entrats, the terrain was very, very, and we're

we say the security not the priority of that

the place. And then they're going to that someone was going in the

night and trying to robar was was doing that I'm so that is very

and that the mom the precaution that is then to thence

to get to the door to to turn to and

to be to to be the rest of the house and However, in various occasions

the mom's and he went to and regressable and they said, no, just metans if there's the noise

of the commedor and yeah, but no I was going to say that the doesn't mean that's what did it.

A day, raise in all these things, he occurred to do all. He starts to have a

time, and she's in the time, and sheent where they take the one of a

hand, and they they're they're but rumbo to the piece. It was a

sensation horrible. But a day was a little very strange. Yeah,

after to be soya and and I'm and I'm doing and I get to get to get to

the and then I'm I'm a car I'm to the camera and the camera I'm not

not even they're doing what I'm talking about because I was done because I don't know

my camera with sufficient force to rebutar. So, that's the thing.

For that's there's some of the people, there sometimes in the dreams like, like,

there's kind of kind of contact with those energies and that some have messages

to people that have been conversations, but there others that are like

if were questions as, well, the intention of the

energy, no, Like you do you do you have been to start to do your

instincts of your mind. Sure. This that you talk about you

do do you know I'm curiousity of I want of those people that have

had been that experience during the dream or some type of

paralysis of or some event during that moment of

dorm they were they have or have taken

some type of medication psychiatric or or neurologic. Because

there's another that I've said, this surprise. The I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm saying, I'm a medication to be for an

antidepressive and I have time to be but when I'm to make it, I'm

one and at the first I'm another another mark.

And during this time he's taking about I've Fasil

some during three months, like, one of five events of paralysis of the

and that I was, I was, not just, not I could move but I was,

I, I was, I, I was, of different things, so, This, I'm

this, I was I felt like I was a start a never to be able

to be to be his own his he was this was the year

past this is more and I just I just I had like

a kind of my man the other the other man the

hand and here in just this like between

all another another man that not that I

don't know I don't understand, but not was, I was just I'm like, I can't

move, and when I was going to see the that's a need to say, that's a need to be and I'm

so that what is what normally that's when me do that that's when I was canceled this,

is that is that is that I'm so I'm where I'm where I'm trying to talk to be

like this and my spouse did a count and I was a matter and I'm sure if I was not I'm sure

if I was just was born that was my sensation no I'm I'm still I'm able and I'm

about that that was the first? The man did you? Yeah I was was too

because it was a midnight night it was completely obscure then it was sohm

it was also I'm yeah I'm in this before I'm

there's They were of the eyes. But in that then I was clearly, not I'd try the the lenses, because he was

dormied, so yeah, yeah, it's a bit more manch. It was more bigger than the other, more

than the other. Like, of my hand. Of the the time of my man. Because I was,

I was done it, I was brought with one, this, that was my man on on him over of him,

and my other hand to be, so, so, I was over my body, and I So, I differentiate, I mean you. Differencied, and you sent you

a third. That's not corresponded to you. Of what you know, I know that's difficult for the question of the

but it's about to ask, so, would have been your man or your right or your right?

With it your name of your because it was like the center, just the center of the

camera. I was the side of the right. And that's okay. That's the

first episode. That's okay. And then And then the The next, I don't remember the

really, how time it was between one and other, but I remember that they were going to, it was over

the other on the other the other the other side of the camera. This, and I'm here,

and then I started, I was, I was, I was having a, like a one,

a special, because I was having a penererer a recurrent, that the really, I don't

I remember what to the a pasty, but I'm going to be a lot of a lot of

a lot of that I'm like, I'm just like, okay, I'm going to know, okay, I'm going to

get to get to get dormied, dormido. This, so, me started, me passed like

four times, or to be having this time, so, so, so,

so, so, like, agitado and, and, almost, like,

yeah, I, I, I had to start me to stop me so. So, I'm trying to

get to start me, and when for fin I'm able to move. I have that

I'm going to feel that's that I'm able to move, and without being able moving me,

just standing with the eyes, and without a, a woman, like if had been like if it

had been in-cated, no I don't know, like, very very close to the camera,

I mean, the or the area of the camera, the end up a little ruby, super dispeinated

and, and without a face, so, not more a sombra. Like a a sombra?

Yes, this, and for a moment, I mean, I mean, in my, well,

in my sueyn or my paralysis, what I thought, I was thinking,

I'm being because was a blue and but immediately I came in

in mind that I'm I'm going to Iperventile like a other way to get a kind of

and emit the same and it's the same my spouse and me said like oh okay

let's get and yeah when when you start to start to start to talk

to the reaction to your husband in that in the inter

you you get in a this entity or

alusination when I feel the, the, the, the, the man of

my spouse, yeah. Yeah, there's so, there's, like,

like, like, like, I'm, recor sensation of my body, and like,

okay, yeah, and I know, no, so, all, so,

all, all, all, all, does, a sensation when you

did a kind of this type of situations? If you see, a presence there,

and it was a presence a menaceant normal? In that moment no

me didn't not it was normal definitely I mean is that

is that amenasante the I was that I've been analyzed but but

yeah I was not was not I'm like oh my I'm not

not I'm didn't I could be I was a Okay.

It's been for the simple fact that is something that's a very strange aberrant. I know,

not that that's a thing that is a thing, but more well, the process of

what the carho is going to know. Mario me told this situation

that he lived during a time in a house very that all

that everybody that did the book in the night the

pass the a biblioteca. It was a very great it was an exaggerately darkerately of course.

This is the thing most that I've seen in my life. You know could you

didn't even your hand to you was totally so much so much

you're to be a tantue you you're getting a little with the

hand and you notabas where you know you was the part

the door to the door we're we're in some

occasions because there was where there were where

they had had a computer and there was where we had to be a sometimes some

tasks. So it was something, it was horrible. A sometimes it was better not to give the

task of that time to that's a place and to get in the big place, but it was

so dark dark, but it was too that was like if there's something

there specifically always the same the same one is another. So it's

it was something it was something rare. No, you do you do you get to

a little bit of ancius. It was a little bit of anxious. It was a situation, so, it was a very When I'm When I'm playing the compo I'm I'm out of the box and no there's because

we're at 20-tant-tons Gras I'm to be to be strange and I feel a

but not the sensation just to be observed it was much much

fear and then the sensation of the the the the

part I felt I'm not they're not on the the

long the passio and that sensation was moving. Where

it was to get to be and I just I'm going to when we're going to

when we're not the feeling that's that's that's that was

something that was a really something very traumatism and

what what what other episode you did do

what another that I'm that that that those

like five or six years were like that person like ruby she repeated and then was exactly

exactly exactly the same the second so the figure was yeah was a

not not not he was not not so not was like because

for the I was being so like and with the and with the so but

more yeah it was It was like, I mean, it was, with a, like, no,

I know, no, it was like, a ball and a little, a ball and a little

non-dimensional. Yes, so, so, was a very, plain. Okay. Very plan,

like if were a different. Yeah. Extra. And, and then another,

that also, that also, that's repitia, a part of the same situation, I'm I'm uptoe.

I'm I'm going to have a I'm a in those occasions not a precarious

not a one single one one one of the I'm I'm I'm I'm

just able to get completely of the sleep and in that moment I began

that's kind of anxiety and the not able move me and not

here but more more more for the area of the camera

clearly I mean two people there's like black and so the black

so the maldiction the the movie of the maldiction like the original yeah

uh uh uh two people oriental with a blue very obscure

but very black as like like like like like

so like in the camera resando so like like a

like a like a so like a so so it's and and so

it's so it's what same. I mean, I started to agitarned and I'm to make sound, to make a noise, and yeah, after all the questions

that have been passed, yeah, my husband, yeah, no more, I said, yeah, well, yeah, just, yeah, yeah, just, at the moment, to enter the contact, me, like, disappeared, the sensation.

The sensation and the vision, also? Never, you never, never, never, never, no, no, I don't know the value, yeah, yeah, one, a person that I've a

time he had a problem with the paralysis of the problem and he

had recurried to a lot of a doctor psychiatras and

he said he said he said he was he was a always he

was a problem and always he was he

he sentia that he went he he he

he first he can move no I can

move and he Siente that there someone, no I can move if there's someone and

there's a someone and see a little a woman and the sunbra is a few, the sunbra's about the

sunbras some various sombras, when I know I'm I'm years at the moment of

they're they're up my and they're around me and say I'm I'm not

I don't want to I don't want to I'm that's the fear that's the that's

that's the I'm all the paralices of the brain of the no, or so what I'm

living not a paralysis of the dream of the dream things and a million things and a

million strategies, no serve nothing. So he is he was with a medium

that I don't say the solution. For him it was but that the medium

before that he he gets to say he he said you're not you

don't not don't see you are seeing some when I

know this person no he was you had the car of

someone super disveled no, no be you not there's no no way you're I'm going to

I'm going to the time but I'm but after it was a two months in the that they're

they're there's the paralysis and then then then then then

there's there there's there may there may There are effects of medications, there's a little more in some.

Well, well, a little of all right, the paralysis of the suno at the final they're describing like a situation

of the brain, of the that if she active, not she and it and I

you, I was a of the medication because it was when I was taking that the medication,

I came to, and I didn't, I, I, I, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, he's, so, so, so, how

basically altering the chemistry of your So, there's a There's a There's a overstimuling. A bit of my theory

pirated. Exactly. So, it could be able to be activating and doing connections. Distintas. That's, it's been able to

look. It's not. But, but, I mean, who says that no is possible?

You do you do more more for the line, then, then, that,

to do some a way, all of this change biochemical have been

a new level of a non-of- perceive something that you're in other

way you know it. I'm much. The fact, I'm not the question.

But that's something that I've thought. It's kind of has been with

the medication definitely. And it has been also that it not

means that it's like a hallucination it means that if

so if said my chemica cerebral and I've a

a conscience distinct in that moment I'm I'm going because there something there's always

there's always there's always we're not we're we're seeing there. There are two microrelatos that I've

heard some some days that me they're we've got we've been there's a coate

that's called Jordy Wilde is a Spanish that has a podcast super

famous day of today of the day of his invite to his invite

to do some another but he he's not he's not in the absolute in that he

and he and he and so then I see that he now he now

he says something that he says I'm not I'm say I'm

not going to say that I've found an explanation and he's he's he's

he's he's a podcast, has a similar to this, let's say, let's

a cell of three-per- three. And then it's an entry in the there's a

recidididore for the people that are the side of the right,

the side the right, we're that we're a part, it has a

armario in the that he had a camisas. And detras of what

would be behind there, there, there there, sale the

recidivor. The chick that should be attending the local is in the bathroom, but he no he knows. And in the armory, he starts, no, there's

no any more in the edificio in the building in the other side. No, there. The wall does a nothing.

No, there's another local pegged to him. And then, suppose that the chick of the recivor is

playing a problem, just because the theme paranormal, he no cre. And then then he

with a sonrisa you're to get a armario and just before

to open it and it says you you're I'm there's and then the amyg

grita there go there go and then he's he's he's

he's he's he's he's he's he's a bit I know

that's the chabes what's I'm saying I'm talking that

they're Entrata. Supposed that they occupied Alco. And then at the Fecha of he says, for me no

has a question. I was I was with another person and the other person said I don't

want to tell you. I don't know what I know what I So I think it could be

there sometimes situations medias strange. But there's a quate that

he's a one day with him and he can a anecdote that he

a guy. Much people not think the Uyja. He said,

at the time he to buy to Hasbro, what's real he can be for the

Dros Rosank this YouTuber that is very he's his own

his own and they they're so they can't do or no well

this chabo he says that he's that's some ridiculous

but but that standing in the school to let's

he said he he said then then when when I mean, I surprised

if I was doing responses corrects of things that nobody of there was what I mean said when I'm seven years,

nobody of those who were the first mascot? What was the first gift of my birthday my father? Where is the

photographia that I took in that situation and that I have got in my court and me gave to

all the responses corrects. I said, I don't talking the Uiha was just

other people. So if me surprised I said how, well, if, if, contact them

with something, or so, something, it's very strange. When they're to get to get to

get to get a little hard, like, pesed, and he said that he said,

he's going to get to a facet like, a depression. It's they're to get a

psychologist, they're they're doing, they're doing, and a person, and a Papa, yeah,

it's despera because he's if, it's going to like, yeah,

yeah, it's going to a depression very profound. So, then they

they were with a curandero that were like a group of people

that were a local, where they were a one of a

time, the 20 people that were out and he was

not over not. It was like a society. And when to

enter there, the Quotets, they say, you jugged the whiffa. And he says, and you're

cargand something to you. And then he says, he's kind of my father.

And yeah. Like, is more that you want to be sure. I'm going to

get that for surprise. But that's me. I'm going to let's see. He's not.

He's going to do it, but it's going to put in a camera, he put to do around

to him. And he mentioned that was that type Christian for the type of words that

used to the ubiqu that was a Christian and here here here

what until the day to do you have much respect with all what is

of that but I want I want to know I'm I

think I'm being so my and then my men and they're to make

a lot and my feet, they're to contortioner, and I don't understand what the carajos

is going to and they're doing to be my papa, that's they're not so they're going to

do you, and then I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and it's the end up the depression.

And he said, I'm not I'm not to get to do that two, and I

took a time in recovery for a friegap that me met you in the body of

those contorsions and things I said, I said, I'm I don't know what is, but no was I moving it.

And in that moment, I had a conscience, but no, I was going to be my body. It's strange. She knows. How?

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that you mentioned that story, I remember of the most recent, with And Doni. A be. This,

it's, it's a few months, maybe a year. He's he's, in his room, in

his the room. And one night I was like to keep up to get me dormita

when I was like that's like that's kind of a caro of my spouse was

so we're we're we're going to we're we're going to see we we're we're

and he he's and he he's and he's and he's he's the door

and And I, well, I mean, like, because, I mean, I don't know, like, what I was going to, and I was like, like, like, I just like, I'm six stories of, of, of, he, of, things that he had passed to, uh, to, uh, the father of my son.

Mm-hmm. I mean, I mean, I'm sorry, I don't know, but I don't know if it's to enter, or the, more, no, then I'm getting, with the, I mean, with, I mean, and I was, and I was, like, doing something.

I don't know what. And yeah, a few minutes after and I said, yeah, you know, I'm saying,

I'm sorry my mind rational, like, I'm saying, to associate what I know what I

know, that's doing something, this, ritualistic, I, I, I,

those, X, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, of rompecabes and juggles. But they're like disordernated or a car that's

a lot of a little a little and a much that's a very easy that's very so you're

I'm able to come to and they're and they're exactly like they're in in an desordent

for trying so to see how it's got in other moment and he's I'm

I'm going to I'm like it and I'm he's like you he's like you

the moment, tantito with the and he, he said, and I'm, and I'm going to do.

And I'm saying, well, you, but you've to do you do it's like that's

so. And I, well, so, you know, has a reason. This, and yeah,

he's like, well, then, he was to go to and he's to go to

and I went to so, and so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, and I, and I, never has ever He was

he said, I'm he said, and I'm he said, I'm, yeah, I'm,

yeah, what you're doing, I'm, I'm, and I'm, I'm, and I'm,

I'm, but I'm a little a calm, like, like, like, I'm,

like, I'm so, I'm, let, explain, me, for a bit

differently, what's what is what you know, and I'm and I'm and I'm so,

well, is that, you know, you know, you know, the spirits chocarrareros and I

okay and no, well, yes, I said, well, I said, and I said,

well, I said, I don't I remember. The fact me said, he said, I said,

I'm, like, I'm, and I'm, and I do, well, and how do you

do you do this, and you're not to do? No, well, is that, well,

is that I, I know, I say it's I don't know. I don't know, I don't tell you, no, I don't make count of those

things, I don't like that's kind of a view of that's clear. At least not not as well, this,

and, and, and, and, so, like, of the energy, and so, but at the same time,

I mean, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, so, if that's going to be

going to see, I'm, I'm so probably probably my cerebral is going direct to,

oh, oh, so, they're and I'm going to go to go to get the

and then then I'm going to think to and then if it's something, I'm

so I'm so you do it and then so it makes a anxiety so you

want to what I'm what you do this? What are? From, your husband,

what are the spirit chocarreros? Oh, well, no, I don't see a definition

in that moment, but I did what are what are the spirit chocererererer

that what, I don't know like Porter Gates, Like the movie

of Porte Diennes I mean So, things, entities, energies, that

that maybe are like for the space standing in contact and not

with this plan, no I know, I'm this, and, and,

and, like, aborried not, so, so, they're all to do this

bottle, I'm, I don't know is what I imagine Okay Like, Like, Like,

Okay, Like, I'm like, I'm sorry. Yes, this, they're chifled and they're

attention. Okay, okay, okay. That's, that's what did you did not do

do you do that type of of that of that No, no, no, not

like, but if, this was, this was, another, other, other

other, other, this is very, very lebe, but if, if,

if, I'm sure that I felt something like I was like a like this this one day we were

going to we're going in the part of my and I'm and I did you I'm going to

do something I was going to be a but I clearly I felt like that I was

so I so I'm so I'm still I still I until I the I'm

and I he said well what you want to you want to I

I was, I was, I clearly I felt that I was right I was in all the way. Uh-huh. This, in fact, in a little moment I was there, and I'm sure that I saw in the periferia, his sombra, or so, his silhouette.

But I was, and I was, I, okay, where did you? I'm, so I'm, so, that's the bar, like, to, like, to see, I, okay. Uh-huh. And, um, and me grita to the court, no, right I go.

And I, okay. And I said, Oye, I said, I said, I was to do something and I said,

ah, you too and I'm, yeah, he's, yeah, it's, yeah,

I'm, and I'm, but with all the calm, also, like, is the

thing, the thing, I, I mean, I'm in the moment, I'm in the

yeah, I'm sorry, me che on but, but, but, but, much, like,

I'm scared. I mean, I'm afraid that Andoni, of a sudden me say, that's, he's, like,

the kids are, like, how's it? Perceptive. Very perceptive. susceptible. This, and,

and that's, and that's it's been so, because if it's happened, like, it's been, it's

that, oh, is that, the, the, I know, the, the, I'm

that, the, so, no, no, no, don't, more in the

thing, I don't have so said it's a that's a little

that's a really, no. No, a hond much in the history

but I get to a comment that's that I that I talked to

the person that came in the closet so so random two, three

so super sporadical and and X without more

profound of the time but but I imagine if

yeah I good day, right? So, so at final of the

child's their his own, I'm like, like it's a hound of family

to have that level of a perception. Yes, if some have said that it

has been with some line sangu there there people in

that they're not, that they're they're they they're

not they're a level of the family, and it's a It could be there in a

dark of the but that in a family when yeah one they're in the

many people so it does you have seen the group Kaba? Yes if you

do you do you know, no no nah no no no no no no no

that no that's another but is another yeah the group Kava that

many of the of the 90 can be that today today today today

result that in an interview that they've ever they've got that two of those of their integrates live in houses where

occur in a lot of phenomena and then you're just the attention for some things that

mentioned like I gave the feeling that I'm a little some of some of

them made to tryer a man articulated of those that's

that's that's that's that's but result that the hand

articulata is a reliquia that has many years and has pertinced to many people. He decided put it in the part of the riverer that is super-altto and it he has a position in the way that the man

is open and apontando to the sky. Passen a month and, of a moment, when he'll turn to be the hand, that not is accessible, and you parading to puttiputites, you need to forcelessly a scaleer, you see, to know that the man

is with the puno serrado. so it's a little rare it's a little bit to let me to get upunting

to the sky and passing a part of a couple of a time that's a

back the back and it's well it does the system of articulation

not it's it's that is the postures that

have taken the one not they're that strange and

to get to the same the if it was siding

it to torsers that way. He'll let him a third time.

And at the matter that the man now he's in the other he's in

another quarter. He's he has done to know that he has done to

and that he doesn't he doesn't he's there's there's a man that's

like a kind of in the house. And there there people that

you're a deados the of the of the Dos the and he

he's he's he he's But there other integrante that

says that in the house of a day one day standing in a

area where there's a property a book a

book, a little a a paltor so so

so he's he said he said he said he said he's

he he other me he I'm I'm I live and

I don't I And he says that during various nights, has occurred that he has a bicycle with these timbers

antivos, of the ring, and that in the night, the moment, it's going to get to be that there

is something, that there's a something. But, that with the time, he has gotten to get to

get to know that has done to do with a thing, it's something that interactua

with some things of the I'm okay Okay, well I'm not I'd say I'm going to I'm going to

thank you Thank you for Permissau With permission, much thanks Yes, no, no but, well, if it

were something I mean, if those things were going passing continually in my house, I think I'd

do you know You'd you'd You'd You'd Well, obviously I suppose

there's many there's like no way of that you know of the nothing to you're not so much

economically but but, but, I think I'd be a way to not

not be there I'm gonna do you see yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, so I'm,

how's it mormosa of the thing, but, but if me pass something,

if it's like, well, I'm to talk in the issue, no,

I'm going to get to get to the person that's the word,

that's that's that's listening in the the I'm going. Let's say in a

movie of terror, you're going to you're going to the police then. Well, good,

I'm going, I'm good, me used the first, that you know, that you're a story

of your ex-spos that has been to something that has been to I'm going to

I'm going to I'm, it's that I'm, it's a family, but we we're going

that in a house, not to Noms of the family, and to the person, but basically the thing was

that, like, like, there was a little, there was a house where were the

abelos, and then, they were continually to visit, and it was always were like a

place, so, so, so, in that house, they're much,

that were that were like, among, between them, for example,

that there were some macetas that they'd call them and that always were

doing around and then constantly, of the and they're and they're the air. But no

there's the kind of, like in a way of the way of the way because not they were so there

no way there's like the currents of the air that's also that

um this in one one occasion I think the the abuela was doing

an so that I'm imagine us and He was doing the water and the jarra of the video So, it's revented.

Okay. Another thing that was, and this is also, with, to start to happen to those, those things,

is that the abelow, that's, that was, that's, that's over a door, and the abel over, he said,

that's, he said, he was, he got a point in the that's, he was, they're,

like, what was, what was doing was invite to what they were they were to get to, because the conclusion that they came to, after all the things that were going to, is that they were doing

a job, something to do. Something they were doing to the sir. Broohery. Exactly. So, so they're going to pass all those things, and it was also, that was the cato of the family, that's the per ron of the family, and, um, I don't

I, no, I don't have many details, because as, as my story, I don't I don't remember, no, I remember that much, but, but, but, I grew a point after that that there was that there were

things moving and there were things and they're like a person like to

do a do a dole and a part of that story is that when they were

that they're that that's like they were going to the abuel and then someone

had to get to the thing that was that was that was that

was my the of the history. So, while it was

going to that's going to that's the he's the ex-spos

that he saw, that he saw that in an instant while

they were that's like he changed the car to

to the old to and then he he

he was a madraso and like in the door me

it was it And, like, well, that's a good time.

But the conclusion that came down after that was that, that someone, the person that was, this,

this, no, no, it was, it's because someone was doing, or so,

it was, it was, the intention was to send to this entity or this thing, to attack

to you, for that, first, of, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the the the guardians of the, of the, of the, this, the,

this, the, the, the, of the, this, the, is it's super a great rags, right? Because, the truth is that the history was a very large, I mean, all those events were, like, in many moments and situations. There were, also, other, other, other things that, they were, like, that there was a sillon where

always was sent, the abelow, and, And, well, there was there was a like a personia. So, like if there someone

there's there's there's there. This, and then, other things that the

really, I don't I'm I'm sure. But if was a more, it was like the

family, like the family, I know, all the family, I was going to that was the

of the animals and so, and so, it's like one to one to people,

so, said, they said, oh, said, said, they're, all

the family is clear and what was going in the house of

the and the and the and it's and it and it's a about the

and he actually that's that I'm that I think that that's the

part of the position there one that's a infestation which

is when affect the places physical and the questions materiales

here here here here a colleague that Anna Karen

in if you can you can see it in the episode number 9. And she says something

that's something that went to a consultorio of psychology. She's going to rent and

they're with his companions and they're and they're in the bathroom, in the

part of the door and there's a little there's some some manchita

rohas and red. The they're to get to the jugeteros

to have a more and they in the day the day next they'll

that's the balla after the door at the door to be in the same to start a rarrow but they're

getting to be like the velocity in recogel and someone's there's there's getting to

and they're going to get to and they're that they're very conscious of where they're

they're doing that they're they're just they're doing in the jettero and amnese

after the pointes in the then then then one they said a little they

to the guard in a juggiero special that they had a little the chica

go to go over the little and the day of the day and the day of the day of the

time. You're they're going to be sure. And they're they're very, very rarro.

They're they're all, nobody he's there's not a little,

the chica of the what we're what we do we're we're going to take

decisions we're we're going to let the the juggeteros

and we we'll we're in those days there's a patient with his brother and the

brother not they're to consultory so they then he and then when the ball and the

balla and the day the day the day next after the door

in the part of the back. They're they're they're and

they're they're to the and the limpe, that romp and the chem. And the chava says,

sure, that if in that moment, it's a he's a time, they're to do. To the

day next, they're to get the and they're all the sit and however,

when the chica of the seo, it's in the back, something,

it's a rassuon in the spada and get with some and they're and they're

going, and there's there's no, there's not there never in the that's

not it's a rach that's frotarse with something. I mean, I'll literally

a little bit a little bit a little bit of the day and the

day's the next the post and the house about the need to get to

the contract for the question economic no way of way of but

there they we're we're we're we're we're not

so soceptibility or not but it's not it we're only one

of the two at the moment we we're we're something something else was there and it was sent to

like the aceto so many many stories for there very strange very extra there's there's many stories

there's many stories there's not my the fact that yeah my job I'm done but right right that mentioned you that's that

I'm a corded of the studio of the father of my he has changed of the place

where he a various times he's a way independent and he was renting

a house in that in the Roma in the colony Roma and then

there there were situations that that when they were in

time he always he said he uses lents so he was working

with a lamp and he was a reflex in the in the in the

and he said that continually he was that was in the room and I saw that was there when there nobody

when he was when he was only and was all right and it was going to get to be the

the chaper the the the carara that that were that they're for example

get in the morning and that they were sitting and that there's so that

he said he said he said he said he said he I mean, I mean,

I mean, of the yeah, when she was just, I'm markable of a

repent, that I'm like that and we're talking about, while that's doing what I'm

to do that's to get to because I feel a super very far. You got to go?

Yes, yes, many times. But no, the fact is that you know, so,

you know, you know, you know, fissioned that no, so, I mean, so,

so, so, I, I was, I'm, I I'm going to talk to be

there's and then I'm a suggestion was like I'm like I'm like I'm

sure I'm am a lot of that's yeah I'm but never really really I did it

that's it's or I or what that's it was my suggestion my

sensation of that something and he he was he was accustomed

and for the situations that you plan he he

react he he he he told it It was a sensation

negative, I suppose. Because many times me has said like, ah, is that

it's that something, no, but, but X. Or the day of the incident of

the jubets, was like, was like, but yeah I was like, like,

into his control, me imagine. And that was, was, like, I was,

I, or sentia that was that I'm not, I'm imagine, I've been

never, never, never, never, never, very heartament of the topic, but,

but, but, but, it's like it's like it's, it's, it's,

it's, me, they're put in put to the poulos, so, like, so,

like, this, it's a feeling as very, simply. Okay, okay.

If you seemed, the amazable there? I suppose, I mean, because not it's normal,

so, so, that the key of the the door, no, the manica, this,

or that they're going, or, or, or, Or, I mean I'm I imagine that if it's amazant

to be aghating for the house of someone that's that you can't that you can't or so you just no more tantito okay

that's a realoho okay that's yeah, and it was a lot of I think it was I think it was a year

I think it's there's already yeah yeah yeah there's there's there that the people

that are there are there can't we can't we can't we can't we're going to let's see

the direction and we've gone. Yeah, have been people here that's living a grand part of their life in houses that

occurred in this type of things. And one of the chiques, that's the first that was the first

she came to her own, she said, she'd ever want to ever, and it was person to

person to people, and it that were definitely not you talk about of an

alusination. In one occasion, she And the novio he said, well, we'll go to

a rata and say, is that no there's a no one of it's a no new new he's a

let's say, we're going and we're and she and say, we're going going to in the

cell, just see where one a little and it's he's he's a little bit of

the novio and he said, he said, I said, I'm sorry to be a car and never

we're when it when it's only never came to come to the house.

And then when he went, Yeah, no, the relation But it's like The time that's The time that's After you, after

of that's He said, Addro to your house, nada. A veces, when they'd They'd

get out of in the Entratita, and there and there and there because that so it

was a very good time. But, but if there are cases, and there's

strange. Yes. So, I mean, I think, I mean, I'm more than you.

But because this, well, well, I've told. In his

house, in where he lived like his time of prepa

faculty, I'm not I don't I'm sure, prepe faculty

this, so I saw, there's there's there's more things

that other people saw they they're a senior, a

old, a oldie like a little, but like a

complete. And they they so how pass and he

he had a every and his he's a not complete, not complete, like,

like, as a borrosa, like, so it's like I know, that's how I'm

what I explained, is like, this is kind of telephono disposed because the

story no, pass to be in boke in okay. But,

but, so, something something, like, like, like if were,

like, a more a a, a spejo that's in the center in the center

but all around inpañed so around so I'm imagined. And so he was going to go to

the brother, with his primos in one occasion this he said

that was with his friend and he had had called like a strap

of a guitar in the and the parted and they were and

they were they apparently they were that he And the Primo,

so, no, that the Primo was on, that the Primo's he went over and so, that's, that's it's

that's the old, I'm like, super-enched the idea of that, there's a there's a

there's a there's a person or there's a okay, and that was in, what location

was? It's a house for the, the part, the, the, the,

the, the, the, like, to the In a colony Yeah, so, well,

so he was there, be that entity of the big hit in various occasions, he took to that he

he's got to that he and he has more interactions with the bigita? No, if there

one is that another is this, the other is, the brother, he said, he was,

he did something? No, no, no, no, nothing. He said

he was playing a brom, because, because, because he saw so he said, oh, this boy

and he's sure he's disdrazo or something. And he saw out of other court, totally with

a lot of different, no, or things like. Passed various, so, are the

similar. They're the only the restrap of the guitar and the brother that

was with the novia, because apart not was only, and they saw,

they're, so, so, so, so, has heard, have heard

one of the doppel gangers? This story me She's a story me She said a very, very, very interesting Because it's something that's something that's a lot

Okay, tantito Tantito They've got to rent a house They're not If they're not if they're They're going to buy together But they're renting their first house They're all right house

They're even illusioned And they're just having Apeness like all the cajas With cosites to gohenando The house The house is of two-pisos he he has

two or three cars and she also try a pair of the caras but the of her

not are not as they're light as when they're going to the second piece

he'll practically pegatito to her but in the last the

little the level and she she's and she goes to get to

the caras and to make the and that when they're

to and when you Be she's how she's the final of the passio

and entering in the last time the last the last the second and he's coming to

enter the court and he's going to be going to be the corner that's very dark

and it's why not not preending the light. So, so where she's

where she go to the little she's a little and it and it's

the end of the house and the nobody's and the thing he says you're

I'm in the other quarter and if I'm going and see I'm going to see I'm going to get to enter here. I said I'm going to the fourth of the right so.

So that is a story. The other, I think you know I'm sure, but is one of the histories more

rare as do gangers that me have said. For this, I don't have any of that we could calligar

as like double gangers. Because it is the double of a person, but in some it is that

is a Conscient. In others, it's that's not conscious. It's not it's a illusion. In others

it's a oldogram. It's a phenomenon. But a chau is out of a man who

is a divorce and has two two kids. The children, one has 14 years and

the other seven. Ah, until we're we're back. He's

to the house to give to give us a And when he gets, the chick of

14 years he says, Momah Salio. For this, he was playing a videojew

so he had presteed attention in the mom when she went. And he said, I'm

here with me kept here on the he got and playing and playing, and the

little the second piece, he was he was getting with a face of

enochated and then he he's to make to make a And he said,

Oh, I've got to dinner. You want to and the little bit of a little bit of a car to see.

He's a kid over and he said what you're saying, well, you know, she'll be, then you know,

a little time, it was five minutes after the door and enter the mom with the little.

And then he's he said the little and he said to the door this because the

only thing that's the only thing that's the mom he says me accompanying

from from the time that's the first of the house and then

he's and then they're in the second place, the door is made they're

there's they're they're there's that's the situations more that's the

situations more that's that's what I'm when you when you when you when you

when you came to the passio. Yeah. You know to think a question

a explanation that my Cerebro needs to develop to be okay. Yeah.

I get to think to the time of the like the like the like a like a

like a like a matrix. Yeah. Basically or so it's like like

that maybe in other level, in another dimension in another plan or no see

like the Spiderman's you know what the three at the best uh Uh-huh.

So, like, so, so, uh, you're so on the time,

and they're like, if you're heard of, the theory of the theory of that that's

all this is like a type of simulador? Yes, and that day of today,

it's being a theory vigente because no way of it's but they're

that we're to do a similar in the people have the

reason, it's actually a actually that we're in a simulation. It's very much more probable

to not serve. I mean I mean in some of these stories are a glitch. It's a glitch.

But there are others that is very, very rare. You've heard what is a tulpa or

a tulpa? I'm it's a kind of some kind of a demonio or something?

Not so. Because if could be in some the other cases, but not so. It's like the power creative of our mind when

with the amigos imaginaries. So, that's a type of tulpa. We're not, we've seen, and we're in a certain way, we'll hallucinamos, but we're we're there. It's said that the monks buddhistas, in those types of meditations,

al-tulpa, they get to materialize and various persons do presenia. But in some of those tulps are transparentosos. So, no, no, tenden to materialize at 100%

in others are some somehs. And it's where they're where they're that's the power

of the mind, that gets to exercise like a certain type

of effect in the world physical. I tell you the situation of

the double gangers is because also a woman, she came a

story, he went to a story that's a family. And no, it looks,

it's appears other something. It looks a tulpa or a

bilocation. You've I've heard of the bilocations? No. This only I

heard in the religion Catholic with that name, in the that they're in the

person with that's that's that's that's that's very good and

in the concept in the concept in the way, when they have

many when they're many the same but only one of two

parts is conscientient. And the other still appearing in certain places

but the other the other is still in some place in a place and many

people are people are not they've seen at the same in a place. So it's

like a partition of a person in two places. Normally they're

usually they're this chick that came here mention to when she was

when her was she was a cancer terminal the mom had

in special, that was a misa in the uru of Monterey and there for the years that were in the years of

the other people that were in the uro and yeah he'd to go to the and he was and it was

a convalesient like he had many many desires to be there even that was a little time

yeah was conscious of your situation in a okay in a doming

having a alucination in the car because he had been morphine was very

was very was very strong of she has has a hallucination has a moment it

but no yeah no, she could be able to be a woman a woman

she was a woman to say she impact of how she she says what you said what

she said and then the chick she was there was a day and he he said

well it's well it's he has he has he has she has been she

she's she no no no no no no no no no no how

the same the same the same the same the last time the year of the

she can be and she's she said well she's she no she said no she

my mom she's she was she back she was the she was she was I'm talking

with her she was the church how can you a year a week a month

and say no the person with the person with the person with the man is I'm going to me say you're

that I'm going to and that's that's wrong of what normally would be the glitch yeah yeah

what I mean is this thing of the creiv that creivir or I see a

or I view a something or I see a very different to have a interaction direct with

a It was so. Exactly. And, of that actually, with that also I'm a little more

like glitch, because no there was an interaction, but I was more conscious, and I was more clear

what I've passed. One night, I was I was there was to cry, and Donnie, he was

his dad. He's got to his papa, I'm so I'm because we're in

a moment of the time of of, of, who's, I'm, so,

I'm, so, So I was up so with with intention of, well, I'm going to

do this time. So I'm, I'm I'm like that I'm so I'm and I'm

and I'm back to do and I go to and I'm to do and I know this

to be to get to the father, he's he went to to the court to

to be to be to see and then I'm like I'm like you to get to

you to get to you to get to check it because that's something does commonly. Like in the

night he's like to check that's that's that's yeah, and I'm

not, no, no, I'm like, I'm like I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm not

because I'm just a I'm just about, I was like I was like I was, I was,

I was, I was, I'm, I'm just per to do this and I'm me, I

got to but not I'm not not he's and he's like no, no, no,

I'm not so you then you're not it's, no, it was like move of him.

And he said that he was the and there's no other and the other other more, that's a

clear, well no, no see, because no I'm so I'm like, I'm looking for the

other side, and he was not the other not there, I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm gonna

and I'm like, I'm gonna like, I'm gonna now that now that I'm maybe I've

been able to be able to be able to some are very difficult and that good

that occur not more one once, not? If they were very very

very so I'm doing a lot of a good. Yeah, or adapted.

There's there. There's a house here in Monterey in country where were

things really. A house to be not. No, no. But yeah they're

remodeled and all right? Yeah, it's to be functional according to okay.

Never never never. Never. Who who can't, but

well, it's a house in country and was a Antiguana

in the family had a various years living there but they were very un-tankilus

they had been indebted very cano to have the house. No, there was a way to

get to get to get to and then they had to put her in renta for that

at the final it was like you you get you

made unnerable because there had like two presences that

were manifest in the house and one all those those people that were in

that was the people who were in that's but nobody was able to see the part superior of the

and that's that's that's so that always when they were in the house

on the side of some and they're those escalers that's that's

that's you're that's just you're not just you're always

always you a felded a little bit with a few feet of And so they'd

where he was on the but always in the last tramo of the escalator never

nobody nobody saw that because where where they were in the people

they were in the they were and they didn't see to see to see

to see to be that there was in the part they're

there there there there there there another other

other type of phenomenon that he is when

the the same ideas that have manifest like a type of emotion and that emotion is a motion is a matter that is when a group of people

are they're and they're not they're like like an atmosphere but a but a lot of that's a grego is a truble

because you can't be various people and it's like of inconscientes collectives connected and a little rar a day in a a feast in that

that casa but it's the energy that emana the person not a person, but energies that are that are in

this theory comes from these are in conscientes collectives, not from minds connected. But inconscientes, not are

conscious of that. Only, they've started energy, that energy of a certain manner, it's matisor,

yeah, for she has, we, we know, and the understanding property,

has individuality of the person or the group of persons that it genera and affect

groups of people that even not they're in their

so in Spanish the people the people who are the not the

only affected for them and the and as the mental not

not has the not the but it and

it has that that nothing that so it's

very very very very so it but I

sound like the obscurius of Harrypot Like the Obscurious of Harry Potter. No, no,

Harry Potter is, it's animals fantastic. Yes, that was the, the first, right? That's the first, and it was the

form human. That was the idea. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Couldier be a good,

that's interesting. That's good analogy. Well, because many of those of Harry Potter are so based in things

with, exactly. Exactly. Exactly. It's one of the exist. Ascending a parenthesis, there are things that no exist.

Well, we're talking of many things that no exist. There are a book that's been very famous in the 2012 or 13 that's called The Name of the Viento.

No, I've heard. The name of the Viento. It's of fantasy, but it was incredible. To all those

who you like the genre fantastic, that was the before and a before. is, well,

I'm past more 10 years and still are the third part of that's the book, that's supposed

that I've been said, like in 2013. Well, that's the book, all what he talks about

about magic, and now that Badiya the that's legionals, he's, he's about to talk to

the magic chaos, that's that's about what Badi did do you, but here

to do it's been about in a book of fantastic. But this is talking by path

how it's how it's how it's how it's how it's how they're that's kind of

that's made to certain structures like that's well. It could be able to in some

there's in a imagination of the author. In this house what you

occur is in a first in a few various of the people who were there

but no they're but they're to get in different moments to say to the family to say they're

to goy your abelita so you know your old and all you know the same because my oldita

exactly exactly of that she had had fallen a shorro of time and not

the when the when the when the oldita was able when the all they

all they were the second the end not they they were they

they were they they of the people that people that in this house and with the voice

of one of the members he had to another. So, in many occasions they'd have much

fear. Because in the first when there nobody and all they were at the second,

a little, a woman, he said, Marianna, Ben? And where he was going to go to

go to the house, and say, no, I'm going, I'm here, I'm

I'm here. And so I'm going to and other and other and it changed the

voices of the members of the house. It's a not I don't

idea of what I know that I'm in that house and many people who lived here.

Thanks for have accepted the invitation and you have a question with you want to you want

to be like that so I don't just I just I know that that I'm

that the father of my son in some moment in the time

a company he said he was that was that was that was like this

this don this on this on the perception and like the energy that could

control certain things or say we're saying to say things or dilidiar

with situations of that so he and other person were to his house and what

I what I think was that what was that was that in the court

of the baby of this child or the this was, the cuna

was, I was, I was, I was a place in a corner in a house,

and it was in the center of the court. So, so that of a

so that was what was what was he was, what he he's, what he's that's

that he, he was he was like, like in the or the wall of two

things. So, like one part of the fourth, an energy super super-fired, like negative,

that is where was the cuna and that was the one of the other, a more, that was,

that was, that not, negative. That's, that's, that's, so, I don't know

how they got to that conclusion, but the conclusion to that they were, is that,

was that, there was, there, there was, there, there, there was, like,

a person, a person, so, a, no, a spirit, and And then what

was that that spirit was the is the was the was the one of, because

he was away from the other. That's present in that part of the court.

I don't I remember what he was what he said, if he did you, I don't I remember

that, but basically that's what was what was going that was what I'm a little

similar to the story of the Warren, one of the stories of

the in England that's the movie? The second The second of the Conjuro, that there's a

bigot in a yeah, but the bigito not is the mal or the bigito is like the

old old was like the spirit of that person was trapped with with something with a lot more similar so

so there there's there to be there to top with the bigito that moved the cuna, for this,

well, for to keep our things that not are doing to care. Here, here's a little bit of

a girl, and it's a little in an episode, be it, I think it is like the 10 or

or the 10 or 11. And she says that in the case of a tia passed something

about a in the that her was a literally the phantasm of a person,

but it was a person which, the that was there a bit of

but with the time he'd know that's like, no, I mean, like it was like it was

something that's a little he was the old old a man, a manned a little white, and

he was a little bit but he was like a very amable. So, then he said he was like

he was a repelel and then he'd be able and when they were visible. So, she'd be able to

to talk with him, Rying and he said, ah, you're going to start frugating, and other way you're at

your time, you're at a kind of a kind of a different, in the that the lady,

yeah, she was a little, but a day occurred something in that he's a,

that's a entity, and was, that when she had her little a babyita, a day

for canstances of the day, he got done, and the babyita she began

to rackant because was like masticando the sabanita with the tapada. And she was starting to asphyxier's. And he was totally dormied. And of a sudden, he gets in the earlone, and where someone's gritty in the ear,

Your little, Salva! And where he'll say, Afurae of the room, I know the man, whewer of the eyes and it's like with a car with meo, and where I'm going to, I'm going to beo my little bit I'm very

Thank you. Lily, thanks for having a for having accepted this invitation. You can't say something? Ah, sure, for favor. She opened a support. Ah, always. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Lily, thanks for having accepted the invitation. Thanks to you. more a little bit of maybe we'll talk about traumatize

a little more. Yes, I'm like. You know? You know? You know,

do you? Sure. It's very molest these these things. Excellent. Family Nocturna,

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