HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP015: ANIMAS- EXPERIENCIAS PARANORMALES - PODCAST DE TERROR HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE

Episode Date: June 30, 2022

EP015: ANIMAS- EXPERIENCIAS PARANORMALES - PODCAST DE TERRORHABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTEHoy en HABLES DE LO QUE NO EXISTEPlaticamos con Betty, que tiene una historia personal de lo más peculiar.Por mi parte te contaré algunos relatos aterradores y algunos otrós que puede ser que te den una perspectiva diferente de lo que sucede después de este plano.Gracias por apoyar este proyecto.Te mando un abrazo.

Let me Of what No. Episode 15 Animimus Welcome to Family Nocturna

A episode Mace. The day of today we're here here, Betty,

Betty, thanks for to be having to get a opportunity to come

your experience. How you're very very to the invitation, and, but, you, I'm, you, If you have to

tell and if there, this, vibra, vibra, there's a vibrator. Very good.

What do you do you do with the interchamio? I'm going to tell you a story. Perfect.

Very good. We're going. This story, I know a very little, but the

moment in that I knew, I was that it was for you. Oh, God.

We're on the let's if you know, if you that in Mexico there's a program

of radio very known that's called the mannopeluda. Yes, so I know very. This program

in 2018 were going a, let us, we're going to talk about of those people

of the people, but almost the initial of the transmission about a

person to tell various sucesos that had lived. Dentro of many

of many success there are one in special that I think

can capture your attention. A bit. He went and he went to work in

and he went to be in the business. Yeah, I had some time, I had

understood a little the mechanics of how to do it. And he was waiting in the

officeina that he was he was a in an office specialized in

so, then the clients were to get to the other. Uh,

uh, there came in a person maybe particular. Because the the

like a little distracted Desorientated Exactly Exactly No I didn't Not physically

That was That's a Yeah, simply It was a So it's So it So it's

Yeah, I'm sorry And what I'm the Pazte, for He does his name and he says

I'm I'm If my policy is I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm He said, I said, pass me your name, and your name's the

policy, he's a little data. At the final in the system and he says he's preoccupies the police

is active until the time and he was a time and he was a man. So the man says,

no, thanks, because I'm very preoccupied for this time and yeah. Much thanks.

So, so it's no, it's time. Yeah, you've been already when they've

when a second after a when a woman when a when he he makes a

the police he says ah, sir, that's a manned that's a manned

he was a little when the police he said and he said oh he was the

man and then he said she she then I want to you

want to the coincidences so so so so so

so so a so to do the police. So, now at the

moment of her does it is that it in order because I'm in the moment. And then

the woman, the woman and he says, how? And me says, yes, she,

she, so, no, that's, no, that's, I'm going to cover the

police right because we're in our termites legal. My husband

has been a year. Oh, no. And then the she said, I think,

I think, I think, I think, I'm, I think, And the He said, no,

I don't know those know the I'm not the only I'm doing the data of what occurre.

So, he's, I'm going to describe the person that the person and where the doesmire.

That's the whole was the husband. A the same to bring the brother of

the husband and they're to the family of this person and where they're and for the

way in the he's he was he? It's he. It's him. So, So, of a certain way, it was that

that preoccupation like that was a little. Oh, what stress. But if it's a lot of things,

when they're when they're when, well, the case of the polisa, right? Much of

a lot of when it's when it when it's, when it's to pay it and that still active

then, so I'm, that that person was very prevened, and, well, finally, I mean,

I mean, I'm going to occupy, let's say that prevention, right? So, at the moment

in the you fall, is like, wait, and at the last I did I did get protected

to my family or no, what happened? So, there's the pendent no?

If, see, that are that are that are the kind of are

that, you know, or maybe when you're living, those are you present, but no can'tas to conclude those

because you have to give to the school, you know, you have to do your routine, and you're going, and you're

postergating, then then finally pass an accident in the that's and you have

heard of this type of stories, in the in the that person is made to know,

hey, what on, how is, what I'm that, I'm, The papillia or the pendent? Yes, yes, yes.

This type of story, I go, for your job, I know that it's able to enlazart. But, tell me, what is your story? Oh, no. Well, look, I have a anecdote in that if I, if I gave me more than stress.

But in that moment in the that I mean me passed, well, I was a mom primarisa, right? So I remember, I was I'mamanting to my baby, that I think,

two months of having two, three months. And he was mamaning, it was a night, a yearnest for the night. So the camera was accommodated to tell form in the one side of the

one side of the camera will be down to the part. And the other, obviously, well, obviously, I'm in the abysmo

of the but, but that that part of the piece, in a side,

I'm a little, I mean, it's, it's, where you put these

those bebeces and all. But there a part in, between the camera and

the corral, there, I was, I was, there, there, a tracito of the

base of the camera and the corral, right? So, I, Mama, Primerisa,

you, in the situations that there. And I go to my baby and I'mment to

get to get to get to be because I'm thinking that I'm going to get to get a

dormita and I said well, well, the momant this side, and then

doesn't not be to get because there's the right? So, so you

think one of the mom. So, I'm so I'm so in the

profound of the night or of my son, I'm I'm a

I, I mean, I heard, then when I abro the eyes, I'll the camera, the right of the right, and no I see a my creature, right? I mean, I'm, I'm going to be. I said, oh, what is, I? And I said, I was, and I heard that I'd hear of, and I'd

and I'd say you. So, I'd go to the side of the left, and I see that my is to be a, with the head to be down, between the corral and the camera.

So, so, her head was in that space, and the feetcitos, not more, I mean, and she and she

was a lot and she, but obviously it was a a lot of a lot of a lot. Well,

because was incajada between the base and the corral. I was, the corral was,

the carl was, the little the little to be a and I'm all scared and I'm

a- I'm a- I'm got to the patty and I what I'm

what I'm what I'm what I'm what I'm I mean, I was, well, mom, primarisa. It was my, oh, so, babycita and no saw any how, or so, any, how I could accommodate for that not to lastimar, or not.

So, with much care of the, I'm in the camera. And I said, oh, what happened? What was? The girl, yonaut, but, I mean, you know, you could be able to imagine. So, yeah, I car, call, la calmo, and so, that's it, and so, yeah, I mean, well, I said, how is possible

that that's possible that was a part, I mean, and you know, the babies no's

not so much no have so you're so, you don't put those those first in a

place in a place and there's so I didn't, I said, how he said, how

he was there? I mean? So, how? Yeah, then. Then, then, platicando,

of a with a friend with a friend, there was a was a

was a a little yeah, well she was talking about her, the anecdote

me says, you know, he said, he said, he said, I know, I'm going to talk

something, I said, something similar. And I, and I said, is that, is that,

I mean, I'm, I'm really, recently, I'm She was born, so she said she had her, she had a little bit of her, she had a little bit of a

baby'sita, and she, and then, she's just I hear of y'allar and yellar, and she'll her lapar the yantle, the yant to, the child, and she's not, and they said that the little bit of the door, just in the cost of the door, where you're from the door. And then then I said, never I never understood how the

little bit. It was a baby. So I said, and what is the explication? And then I said, well, I said, but no, I'd say, but no, I'd say,

I'd say, like, what I've been. Dice, it's rumour. Dice, or more well, it, says, there are that there have seen,

that's a person, and he said, and he said, in those departments, has been So I'm talking

that's going to I think I'm going to I think right now I'm going to you're in it's a

different years of so in those departmentes he's made of a barandale and I said like you and then

then he says well he says but he says but they say that there says that

the end of the thing the man he seems there there's there there

there there's stories or there there I never I never I never I

but after she she said and you know what I said to me I'm going to me

like me they were like I'm I think I'm the I think it I'm I think

there's the possibility of that if the new endovies for there so

if he he wanted to be the babyes whether or was or it was a

or it's you But, well, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, I mean me so, when my daughter had two, three months of and when I'm, I'm, I'm,

about my friend, over that time, and I've been, a lot more, a year, if, because it's an experience that you say, ah, well, it's a, but, well, I don't know, and one, or other thing, you, dejas, uh, to have, uh, to have been to be able to

things like rare. And you say, well, then I know this but never

I found an answer so. So, okay. Your baby in this time

gatea? No. How many had? No. I had two, three months of

last time? When? You know, you know, more or the age of getting to

get to? Well, they're to get to the six, seven months.

Okay. So, no, so, no, that for some proper force

to that That's a No, that's a Was it, it was a new natural.

At the much, could have had been two months. You never never

ever to be the new? You know? No. Sentir? Like that there

something? A, sent to see. Sentil it or well, the

fickate that after that past that this experience my

my daughter had a cuna and for she, but I'd

really much, I was, it was like, I mean, I was, like, I mean,

all the people are when they're when they're so, but the she was something,

but you know, ridiculouslyious, right? So you're no, so, no, so,

not, but never you know, but you don't, two, three years, my

my wife had, I think I was going to come up a only, I'm

two years, when passed, what I I'm going to tell what was the most

I'm cremecue that I'm going to let's I'm in I'm not

I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm normally I'm usually

I'm so the days of and a day that I so all the

those those the but it was a situation normal that

that it a so a much mom so that

well you you don't you don't can't you to recoges, et cetera. So, then we

my little, she had two years. We got to the department. They're in the juguettos reged as we've left. And she got a one a moñica, that was, well, it was a de jere, a mocha kind of, like, like a

ninoch, right? Something, there's a, there was a, there a passig, in that in that apartment, but there was the stanza that had the comedor and the

passillo to get to the recamara and at that's the stancia before to get to

the recamara the side of the left is the kitchen so when we get us

immediately I I I brought to the I was I was

I had two years she she she got the my

and I met to the kitchen he he was to live a

bivor no I don't I I'm going to, I'm going to listen to a gritty, but I'm a gritty, I mean,

the momas we have that, like, agudez, in the o'clock, in the way, in the way, you know,

then I'm, so I'm going, and I go, and I go, what's going, and the girl was a, stremecated,

in the middle of the passillo, it was obscure, because we've to get to the night, the little, the nina,

the nina, I, I'm, I'm, What do you have? What's the What you? I mean, I said.

I know, so, I know, I saw it, nor nor do you, and she was, and I'm talking about,

not about, not about much. So, not more, me signals, like, I mean, I said,

I mean, to, the commas, what, so, what, so, what's,

I, I'm, and in the commed was, above of the comedore was the muneka, but not

was in or, so, no, it's, it's, a little

more in middle, not, of the table. Then then I'll go to

see her and my little, her head, little, herdard, pecanita, and I

said, how? I mean, she, I don't I don't I'm she was

she but she had the a muck in his arms when I did he.

So, then I kind of you, you're, you're to, like,

you're, and you ideas. And I go, how it's the moke to the mess? Because my daughter no alcanzed. And his body was so, like,

so, like, so, like, so, that the piece of the muke, no, he never had left to venter to the mess, you know? And there is like, I, what, I mean, I said, what, I said, what,

and I, and, I, and, I, and, I, and, I said, and, I, I mean, was, it was something that never, never, never, never, ever, never, never, with her and I cargo and she no's calm about and no she calmed and I oh, well,

what's what's going to? So, what I do? So, what I do? In that then, I'm, I'm, oh, that's what? I'm, no, that barrela with an egg, and what, and what's that?

And I'm, but, well, but, I don't know what, I was, it was, it was something that, it was, it was, it was, it was, it, was I'm not,

and then, and then, and then I mark to my and I said, what, I said, what, I said, to, I said, what, I said, this, this, this,

the other, me says, you, say, you know, I said, you know, you, you know, is that all right. You know, all of that, I said, yeah, me da much fear. And me, he said, yeah, me do you. He'shawah, bendita. Me, say, and reza. Me says, reza, I say, or so, and tranquillize. That, no, is that I, well, okay, me tranquilize.

I was a water bendy, I putt a bell. And I went to doorm, between, quote, because I'm going to be to to sleep. Pass a one a time. And

it's exactly the same scene. I mean the same scene, not more that's

not just that not was that we're not that we're not that we again, my daughter

and that I remember I had like some I'm a trincita so. So the

the little and I was like it was a little and I did

what I said what I'm this roo I don't I mean I don't I said no I can't I said no no I can't

with that and as well I'm I said if you're saying if you're if you're so you know you know it's

you know or a lot of or a bit of or so I say you're they're saying they're that they're

so that you know so if you see an adult he's like he's met to the so same

like the gasparin and I no no that's is irreal I mean no, I mean,

that's all me never to be a lot of I'm in never, but

if it's a lot of yeah, if you see, you know, you know, you know,

that's the that's the so I'm just a part of the, I mean, in the part

of the lavanderia one of one bit she was and my daughter and my

daughter and I don't know I'm not much I'm So you're You're saying,

this is a mere travesura because my area there's and the door.

So you say, no circulate the area. I mean, no, no, there was there was

to be a door to was a sote. It was so he was called oh, so,

so, so, and you do you say, in what moment, how, I mean,

I'm, I'm, and my angusia was, and now how, I'm,

now, how, I'm, I'm, You know, that that type of things, like,

never, or the more, I never, I mean, like, they're raras, because,

like, they're like, you know. The reasonalize the more you can, so, yeah,

so, that, well, I mean, I, I mean, I'm sure, I mean,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you're, you know, you're,

and that point, I mean, that was, I mean, I remember, that's, I mean,

I mean, so, then, the moment, of a sota, and you say, no, I'm real,

I'm, like, when you try the stress, because my stress, was that my

was, and was in the bed, and it was a little more great than the first experience,

and you could be to run, then I was so I'm spantada, because I did,

ah, if it's a row, and what, and what I'm, and a the other I mean,

I mean, this, they're in the door, the front, I mean, no, no,

no, no. I mean, a, so, a lot of, very, but then you know,

you know, when you get in the time of the , the other, no, I don't know

to say, well, because when there's a , right, then normally the

people, the children don't, so, so, so, all, all I'm bonab with that,

well, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'd have the little little and then they'd be in the

mess and I said, ah, chis. I mean, you're saying, I don't record to have them and so, so,

things that were that's percived, but one a lot of a lot, you're not, you're going, you're going,

you know, you're going to get to more frequent, you're saying, this is, this is, this is,

I, I mean, I'm spantee, was when the moenke, so that you do you

don't know you're a lot of I'm told a story. Me said that

many years when she was a oldlescent had her her man that was very

and had like three years the chiquita. So they were with the moma

and they were to live a department new. The department they had

been rented like some people, they a situation difficult. Acabed to divorce.

So, they've got to divorce. So, we're going to start of the life. When she's

moved to the department, the people they say that in the house, of a sudden things raras,

but that they're not so they've never been like nothing important. But that if, people that's

been there, has occurred things. The mom for the circumstances then says, well,

what I have to what I'm going to what I'm going to. And let's and they're that since many years, in the quarter,

there were three abitations, in the last time, in the last time, in the room, that they had been, that they were

a lot of, but they've never had put an important, so that's so that's a charred, and yeah,

that's in some moment they're going to do you, then they're going to have to be a serragerero,

and that you the lastero, and yeah, Sofia Sofia That's That she She said

Rarer She didn't These stories The stories She was She knows After the When he goes

When he said Well, It's like It's like It's like It's She was Rerer

I think That was Because it was Not my Because I was I'm

I'm I'm That's So I I'm That's So They're

to Pass the Semans And And they started to occur with things

Raras. So, there were and there were in the same place. In the

where we had been in where we had been in my brother, and I was to get a lot of

and we had things where we'd be a little, not so social, I'd the divorce

of my papas, then there were many things new and not we didn't

much that we didn't all the day were moments But conform

They were advancing the few the things were incrementing One day we made that in the

room that we had done the time, we didn't we've had been past two

months and we had been still still and we had been put attention to open or no,

one day we had we've discovered that the light was that was always that was

we're never we're no we did me. But if we were, my mom said like, well,

so we're just a quiet that has much time that's a lot. No, no important. Something of ever

passed. One day, we don't we've got to my her man. No, we've had

left in the room where had their his guettes and not he was to get to get to

get to get to and you know, and you're to be your mom, and where's

your mom, and it's to soundar where is your in the quarter in the

room. And the court is a serrador. And when it comes a serragero, he says the woman,

is that someone is that they're trying to the carvating. They're that they had

meted someone to get to someone in the door, the court had a

window with barandals with rejas, that no way in that nobody could

say, and the room was a the sir started to think

the and then he asked to the little what he said no is that

Juanito me said he said he said who is Juanito is my my friend

the she was this these are these these are the things

that these they're sophia said I don't want to

live here but no had But a part of there, the she began his friend

imaginary, with the time with the time he was a little. One day, they started to make

to make sure, that the little bit of the night before the and he was to talk to. And so,

and then Sophia he wasom a lot to a grito. And the mom, he's going

and says, what's the is that he's down to the camera to say, and you

know, but Oh, no. And he's what is, no, I see, no-se. I mean, it's like one person, it's other thing. The mom, intends to take a her manita, and where he's hallowing,

she thinks that someone is detainee. And the little, and the nina says, I'm, my mom, leave my mom, I'm going to Juanito. Total,

that's the success, they're going to be the house. So, in the middle of the night, they went to the house of the friends, they found out of the situation. The lady no

Kisd but if there but if there things inexplicable and there all the ramas

the sciences one of the one of that has a sceptica is the area of the medicine

for the type of situations problems and patients that but there is

a pecan that's in the area that's the name

the charko or the chako there say in the name of the doctor

that no I don't know. But he commented during the pandemic, anecdotes that have succeeded in the hospital and he says, I think to almost all the doctors that we're trying to have an anecdot that

not have an explanation. And there are two in special because he had a good quantity, but there are two that definitively I think no have an explanation. One a night stand-de-guardia,

he and a companyer. Just to the guard that's the guard that does the hospital he's

a person that's a person in a situation in a person in a situation of and he's

very aggressive and he says that he's he's he doesn't get to be

and he and he says what you say, he says I'm not I'm I'm

I'm feel and he's he's he's he's he's he's

not you're not you're not he could give a a diagnostic, because it could be a

a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of a couple of a soci her companyer radiologa, her company

she says, no, we're going to say, no, we're to do a radiography to be how are

the public of radiography, he's he said, he's a good position and he

says, no, he says, he's he doesn't to give to the negative to revelals

in the court of the where they is you're saying it's a

thing. I'm going to start a much fear of and I'm going to hear of like if I'm to be a

little. It's horrible. I'm really. I wasosted much. I'm going to the room. It was

a lot of there's a bad. I said, but no there's not a form of there because

the cell can see with the time you can't be able to my key. And I

have to ensure that stay is the where's the sir so I'm

I'm in a problem I'm going to my company's not we've seen we

ask the rest of residents nobody's he we've we've we've

there's a person there's there's there we're not we're they're

they're they're they're and then they're they're so they're they

they're they're when they when she no appears in nothing. It's like it's like if

no he would have taken a photo to nobody. So, like if he had taken to the that I'm

not me had passed. No, when I've seen that they've done, and when I

did the process, and this is the case, then I never had happened.

The chief of the day next to get to do and he to get

to do the videos. The cameras. And he he says,

when, So, I know. About the guardia, and opening the door to the air, because no, the doctor

talking with nobody and the doctor and the doctor is getting to nobody to do that. So the doctor and said,

the doctor, and we're attending to a a phantasm. There are inexplicables, that are very extrana

and that many people independently of what they are, and where in the state and what

you're talking, are very especially the question of the moke. Yeah,

I mean there was a no, there was not a no way to be in the

house, because my daughter was my wife and even even even even even even even even

even even even even had given that she had been a new an impulse in her

in her in his handita. So I know, I mean the the moneca

could be more more than a bit more it's a little no, I mean

no, no, no, no, no form so there was when I did I'm

let me let me go to be able to be to be I'm going to get to the next

et et cetera I said no no no no yeah in in a

moment you in a in you think no I was

not not it was not it was not was I feel like it's a sensation that something of something that's

something that's that you know you know know how to you say well no, no,

no, you know, that's a sense that's not, no, no, you know,

you know, my, my, my, more well, was more more than, was,

because, I, the fact, I, I, the face, I, and the,

I, And the yant, and that was what I tremacy, that I was, that I had beenck, and as I was still, I was, what I said, what, I said, what, what, what, what, I mean, I was, I was, so, so, she was patted, if, and he was tired of the pillow, if he pego, so, I mean, so,

no, I didn't, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, that's, that there are people that that are that's that's that's like you

say, I'm like you're like, I don't know what you're not going to know you know,

oh, what's the that's, that's, you say, you say, you say, you know,

you know, but then you're trying to pass the disapercived or that no affect your

but you when you when you when you when you when you is that you're

that the is that the that's that you know I don't know, because I live in a part of the departments,

but those departments, I mean, it's, for example, one, two, three, so, are, so, are, three, three departments of two levels, right? So, so, so it's six departments, so, so, so, you're gonna, you're in his territory?

Is the place that he's, really you're the inquil. And I'm the, so, you're the inquil, so, you're, so, you're, you're, you're, so, you're, so, you're, so, you know, I don't know anything of the history I mean,

in reality never me met in Dagar of who was a child I mean what was they said

they said they'd say, so it's she's I mean and you say, and you

say, what difficult I mean yeah, I'm getting in the thing to get

difficult to get difficult to a little so, so, and at the

way you say, that you say, that they're that they're If you appear your I mean, I know

I know the father, I mean, I mean, I said, I mean, I said, I mean, but it's much history of that that's a new year, I mean,

it's really because all the people that have lived in those have been in those they've done. You know? You know?

You know? Peliculas, much or so? Well, those of terror no, me They're not. But the normales?

The normales the normalness? Yes, yes, I'm entreteng. You're the actor Matthew McConaughey? No. Very good. This actor, that during the

time of the 90, the 2000s, even a hour, is still quite known and had been a lot of many good. He has a lot of very interesting, very similar to what

you're telling. He comes, when you have one of those boom, one of the best exitutes that he took at the initial of his career, I'll buy

a house And he went and he Mood there So, and she moved Nothing of what I would get in the interior Okay So, so he

He was a tent Because no, I had any camera. Uh-huh. He had some Cache's in Rapa, and he He was, and he

costed the night. He was a tenta and a Preeto. Is it all. Okay. Stando, and the

night, he said that he had a Lampara out of the apartment, had a front of the

to be in the center to start being, like, learn, or something. And, of a sombre of a woman

is a post in front of the tent of the campion. And he is a susts, but surge in these

things similar to those that are the combination of emotions. Because you can't be a

parted, in your case comes the instinct maternal. Protegger to your kids is priority.

In the the case of it, no, he could be the luge of of

a car to have to buy it and he had made a big of a

great. And the decision that he took was to get to the

company and to find to whatever thing that's there there and

there day next he there there there and he

and he came from the and he he he

he he he's he he's isnude and he he says, you're going to

have to learn to live to live to me. To the all the people who

have been to be able to that house, and they're saying that they're that'sombe the

windows, that come in the passions, and he said, she had to learn

to live to me because he did he other option. And she they

call the Madame Blue. In serious. But he mentioned that

one of his methods was, and not I don't think that he did, only was to go to do, for the house to come to

her as well, as she was incomodding. Well, well, he functioned. He's done. But...

It's a extrano, yeah, I mean, it's that, well, I mean, it's not, I mean,

it's not, I'm sure you know, and the really is, how you're going to be somebody that somebody's

that's a person, exactly. So, so, so, but, but,

that's, it's, is so interesting, this is chistosone, I have a question. Has it

how you did you? I think it should be five, six years. Five, six years?

Okay. Despite to have you moved out, sucedo something more in the house,

to you to do you to the new? In the house new, no. No.

No. No. Okay. There are some people who They've got to that these

entities, is that I think there are of many people. Oh, a little. A little.

A. Because it's not. Because it's to be with the place in the place in

the 2007. She was a show that's called Monster Boltziman, no

I remember. When was she in his year of Europe, she started to

tweetier and to be that there was a fanatic phantasm that all the

time was going and it was a because she she was she was

she was but the other not not the cameras uh was

so what he was that he affected that that that that

that that I got that I think that in equipment

to detect espit spirit and spectes spectes electromagnetic

and they that they were to they were to start

before to that they were nothing nothing. So, that's

all the parties, independently of the revision. They were to contact a medium. If I'm

not I remember, it was in Brussels. Maybe I'm, but I think it

was in Brussels, and then after the situation spiritist, it's that the

things were all things, they was a in a country in city,

in a place, no, it was not to do it with the place.

And there other that it seems that not move in the place. Of the

place. So, it's like if there different types of entities with different characteristics.

Yeah, and the aspects, phantasas not, no I know that's exactly, but

it's strange. It's interesting as the story of the story of the

things that are that sometimes that are to be to the people are things

are things, very, very terranal. Sure. Very, very

terranal. So it's like if like to go to other

side with much pendent is not convenient no do you

do you do you do you do you do you think I think I'm

so even some some personal um this uh

let refresh me the memory like how what

at a level spiritual in what you think

you not so not so yeah well yeah

I I think there's a God. I mean, I think, if I'm there's a person

that I'm going to be in the faith, I mean, I mean, I'm, so I'm

am coming to God, and if I'm of those people, that I think there

there's that's not that is not protecting, right? Okay. So,

you do you think these these entities have been have been forceosom

totally malvadas? No. Like, Like, I can be of many types.

Yes. Because I have a story that's really local that's when they're because

she's of a person very very certain she me she made an

impactadone. We're going to say that she's the that she me she said,

say that's saying that's that's his family so he went

to together a very good time to because there was a lagunitas or cenotes. So, zones in

that's in those that you're in a good. They're in a good. They've got to get a

because he was a friend of the family, that's going to do you know, but when they're going to get to be

that's a time, that's going to be going to be going to be five days there. No,

there was a problem. He was going to get to those things and they're going to explore.

So, then the middle of the time, of the first of the second day they're saying well we're

what there what are and they're and they're prepared for if they're they're not to put on a

little to get to know a little that says we're we're we're we're

a per terracetia and pure grava pure a peter and then we've been

a prettyos and it's pretty a lagoonita little not so it was

so much and so then to go to and we're going to be moved to be in a

one of the and they're to make to get them to get to let's get to get to to this

lagoonita and before to get a little a little to get to the arms and they're

saying no they're not they're not they're not they not they're not they're so

well that's lagoonita is a lagoonita is very So, so they're going to be abletey and they say, what What's the way? Dissue, no, I'm going to be here.

That lagoonita, in special, that's super-piligrosa, much people have hogged there. No, they're less when it's so they're getting So they're justanteing, but they're being that the little bit more honest.

Sure. He done the thanks. And then they're saying, in the mother. I mean, we're getting to get back and we're going to start and he's starting. And the little bit of

the cabna, I'll do you know I know the area, so the little bit of the way to be

going to be going to get a caravan't, he's got the greats, and the little they say that no,

that's the she has to go. To the day the day the day they're going to go to

the places and they don't another way and the he said, I'm going to get to

where they're going to go to the lago you're going to let's get

to do count because they're that they've gone to that's a that's a little bit of

the river's and it's it's not a super-peler the lagoonita. So, then we said, no,

you know, we'd have meted a year and we had to come the desborded, it was the water.

Yeah, the new, so like, so, is that is very very dangerous. Well,

total, that's all that they're coming down to and they're in a bus, they're being a

bit, well, they're well, they're The little bit. All the time is out of the time out of course.

They're all the time. The other time. The little bit, the little is there. Regressan to the house. And then the next year, and the day's the next, I get the day of tourists. And then all they start talking to,

they say, no, well, yeah, no, we're not going to be a kid. And that's a little. And that's right. And the bathe us says, ah, ching, what the new? And they said,

I don't know, no, we don't, we don't, we're talking like, we're talking to the lagoonita.

And they're no, they're in the idea where they're in the matter, here no live in the

and then then they're like, and they say, no there's, 10 kilometers of the

redonda, no, no, no, they've done no, no, no,

no, no, what's, and then then they're they're, and he's, no,

freaky. And he's He sacked a photo where the little bit of a little. Oh, no. And the sir, he said, yeah me

had been told that has saved a much people that he's awoke there. Oh, my life. Oh, my dear.

To get a nad. He was going to get it. When they're when they're going to do you, that's the day next,

after that had passed the juby and that if he was all the new was all mojado. It was

all emphed. And when he was coming he was in their rio they're in and they're in

no, they know, and not they never said, they were and they were the same. No.

He said, like some some people chiquot that are like in their distance. Exactly.

So, so we're we're we're supposed much so and we and we're

we're to be a and it's and it's like he and we're invited to come.

Yes, we know we said we we're that no, that no didn't So,

so very very strange. A phantasm a patient in the history of medical and a guide of tourists.

Yes, the truth is that, well, there's that there are many things that are inexplicable

and I think there also, like there are people that are but simply

well, you know, but not it was not not it, I mean, I mean,

something very particular. I think that in the time, in the process of the maternity, to me took to

a child, but for example, a we, well, we know, we're doing, one, for my

son, Damian, then I said, well, he's a malformation in your heart?

Well, result that So, it's seven days with us and it's not result

the operation and then finally we're we're in a process complicated, so in what I pass my

process of due etc but right but right you're the anecdote of the

real of the lake or this I'm to me in the mind

I I remember that I always I always I mean, you know, like, you know, you know,

so, you know, they're in being to be like, and then then I pass something

a very, very, personal, right? This is something kind of, practically

that I think right that's something like like, I'm so, right?

This, I, in, in a moment, for example, when he falleces,

when Damian fallece, this, if I'm my moment in the that I'm a little

to what you think you, I'm a question, I mean, I think there a religion, I think there's a

question, or so, our angustias, and I think there there's a person that that's,

well, that in some moment of your life, the, the, like,

like, like, apart, that you can see, yeah, sure, Sure,

clear. Then it results, well, in your mind, like, you know, obviously

you know, you know, you know, physically, not it's, but spirituallyally, yeah.

So, then I was that, for example, pass a step complicated in my

life personal and I was embarrassed of my third child, of Marcello.

So, in that moment complicated me it's in a dream a dormit

you're in a dormita and I'm I'm I'm with a situation

in a like I'm like of those places that are the cenotes

there in Cancun a place a kind of celestial something

something something something that me I was like to feel in peace, but it was a a dream, no? But a

dream very real. So, to this, to this that you had awedged, as I came to in the mind,

in my dream was like a, a rio, a reo, a, right, a genote, and in the

center, there was a piece, and up of that the piece, there was a little,

like, about an year, two years, that, that was what, in that then then I'd

my son'd be a man, right? And, I mean, in the dream,

I mean, I mean, it was a thing, but I'm really something like something

like, something like, something about, something of the other world, no,

yeah, very distinct of the new new different, those so I, I think,

this, I, this, he, I, I, I, I,

so, I, so, much a pass, right? It's like, oh, so,

like, oh, so, that's a good, no, because it was a

sonote, it's there's and he and so, and so, my my

son, so my son, my son, my son, I mean, is that I'm not

that's all over all over all right, I'm going, I'm sorry because I'm

was embarrassed of Marcello, and as Damian had had fallen of

a malformation in his I was in the heart I'mustied because I don't know if

Marcelo also he was going to make a bad formation Right So like he

would have back out of the and it's like he he says come come come in

a space of those you know of those you know? And so you're like a And when he came in And when you're

It's Trapped To get to You know, you make to get to the cenote And he

I'm So I'm In the Piedra where he So he He makes And then

He says Mami All right Don't You're Be sure You So I'm

So I'm So I Did much Paz I'm So much Paz

So So it So So And I And I So I So

I'm What on in where I'm, in where you're, I mean, I was, I mean, you know, I was because there was a sensation, I mean, there was a sensation, no I want to say, extraia, but so, like,

of much peace, yeah, but something that no me had passed before, you know? Yeah. And result, that's, that's, to, uh, me, it generates much peace to have, of him, right?

And, between, between my contacts or I don't know if you it has to talk to hear that there are people that are people who are the other right?

Well, I have a known a moya yeah, that has, that has, that has, that has,

that's, so, then, then, I mean, I'm, I mean, my son,

I had had fallen, two, two years, three, two years of I was a fallacid. I was

I was born I was embarrasseded at Marcello in that so it's not and so I'm my friend and me says my

right to your house to say for me and my my spouse or no see if you let me the wife of

the the daughter of my amina in the can do that can't do you

can't see to see the other then I was I was I was

I was I was the type of Guartheir, Guadalupe, this, if we were, we'd gore to goreys

to goadaloupes, no? So, then we'd say the little my nina, Mommy, he can't

to talk to my tia of what I can't see, then I'm and he

said, you, you want to hear and you hear what? My wife has something

to say, and I said, And I, and I, well, yes, yes, I'm, then I

said, Tia, this, you, you, you, you, you,

you know, but the little, she, she, she, she, she,

she, I was, so, because, I'm, because, I, he says,

well, this, you know, you know, you know, and I, no, no,

no, I don't know. And he said, well, is that I'm saying, I'm saying,

to say, to say, he's, he's, I mean, I say, I'm saying, I'm going to

say, I'm, he can't ask, he's, so, so, if,

if you want to, he, he's here, and I, so, no, like,

no, no, no, I, so, and I, so, and I,

in serious, no, me, said, me, he said, , always

go with like in the handbrae in the handkerast in the carmionette,

right? So, so, wow, no. So, then I mean,

then I mean, so, then I know, I'm my moment. But,

it's a little, some, And that, I mean, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, she, and I, so, and then, you, me said, and you, me and said, Tia, this, this, you know, this, you know, where, where, he's, well, obviously, is his senisas, right? And I, yeah, she, yeah, in his life, or, I mean, I, had seen that I had seenas,

in my house, right? So, me He says he, he says, that he that he likes, that he likes that

you know, but, that if, he can't move from the place, like, yeah in the

same house, right? And, the cajita is like the color coffee.

And I, I, I know, I, know, I know, I, like,

what, what's, what's, what's, so, so, is, so,

He said, and he says, he's called Damian, right? And I, she's called Damian. So, she said, he said, fagate,

what of the, the, what of the thing I'm related to this. Because me he, he said he,

that he said, that you did in a but that you are doing that you're saying,

then he says he, he says, that he was the sonya. And me she said she,

you know, he was up at a bedra? Me he said, in the like,

like, a little, like, something where there was a lot, me said she,

and I, I, I'm, I'm back because I was a my,

you know, so, so, never, I, I, never, I,

never, I, the first one, the first And that time is that she went, I mean, literally, I said,

I mean, I said, a bottle of and so, I said, I said, I said, I said,

I said, I said, I said, I mean, I mean, I took to sit down. I said,

what you're saying? And then I said, and is that you're saying that I'm, I'm, I'm, he's,

he said, he said, and I, and I, I, I was, I'm, But it's me,

I said, it's my, I said, it's my I'm a I mean, or I'm like, I'm saying,

I'm saying, I'm saying, he's like, I'm saying, but he said, he says, that he

said, he's, but you do you, but you dodas? So, she's

she says, Damian, that no duds, that's, that is he, he's, because he

simply he's he's not Cueyke, that he said you don't you're for

nothing. So in that so I'm to get to go, I'm going to but I think,

are things that I know if I know to all the moms or the people who

have people who has been because, well, this is something like a

feeling very particular mother and so so so

something, in particular, I think in particular, I'm much that's a lot of, and, and, and some other experiences, but that's, they're like, like, more mine, no? So, it's, that's, I, and I tell you, that's I'm, I'm like, because it's, like, my connection with him, so, so, so, I'm, so,

so, like, if, is, like, if, is, the communication with, I, or, that, with, , that, that, is, that, the spirit. That's that exists. I think

I think never never it's so. So, so I'm also

I'm also, I remember a family a man, a man, a man, a man,

a man, and he fell yes in a form very, like, very

very, this, as, like, the a life beautiful in

that you you know amaniced. I mean, you know, nothing. She was to do

not. She went to get to get to. But, but, but, you know,

a day, so, a day before that was that was that was he was with me

in my house. It was, we, we, we're, in that then I

was a never, uh, to one I was and he said when when

when I was going to be so then we said oh well well

this here we we have in what we is going to put up to we have

we we didn't we we're like the good good on

well for me was like my second father so so

then so it that he he that falle

that And, oh, well, we're much, but much, right? So, when it was the ceremony of the bellerio and all that, we're going to the house, and, well, we're just trying and it's been

and it's going. So, of a repent, p, boom, it's going to be a lot. But it was something, well, it was a rarro, imagineate, I mean, you know,

you know, you know, to, to, you know, to a person that was

a lot, so, so, like, well, you know, you know, that's

that's that's a time, you know, so it, so, it was, it was,

so, so, so, so, so, so, because you was,

I was, I was, almost to think, and the and the Saturday in the morning,

yeah, I, I, I, I, had parted , a other

, This no, I say, like, no, no, no, you can't care the 20, right? And I think, that's, that day, when it was raining, and we had we finished the process of the vellation and all, then, oh, yeah, well, it's going to go to the luz, right? And it begins to gover, much, much, much, much, much. And at the, I was a lot, I mean, where he was, where he was, where he was a area of work.

And the lights of the taillers were oncendid. So he said, he said, he, and he's the whole in the colony, except in the tallyer. So, it pertain to the,

all the, you know, so there's, there's, there's, there, then we're, so we're,

so we're, so, no, you know, not you know, so, for the most,

at the most, we know, we're, not so, he, he, he had,

like, he was, and, that was, the last a weeknest that was with us

that that yearn that was to do a tour to do to the family

so there things you say you say like are inexplicable

there there there there there there questions that

you the first is for the anecdote that

you are something I'm not I have done

I know I I'm so I'm so passed.

Thank you. But, profundizing a little bit of you know, you're and you're

talking about with a person who's he, is he, for the data that's that's doing, but

no, the age of the baby. No, yeah it's so. So, so,

so, in that other plan, because you can be about, yeah, you can

be able to be able to be able to do, so, in the imaginative, so, I mean,

the, how we can to love this place of the life of the world of he creates a

place, then he understands the correlation between the places and the atmospheres that are certain some kind of

some kind of you're saying, he's very intelligent. He, he knows, exactly. So,

so it's like if I would have evolutioned the relation and he also you also you're talking

because it's the first that someone me about a type of

phenomenon that is a in the sense of the age, of the

knowledge. Has how many years this this little this

little I was a marceal and Marcelo was in the

2017. Okay, we're talking about five years. And figureate

that there was a moment very special in that

she me says, Dimeon, that the he's going to be very too too.

He's not, he's going to and I said, and I said, and I, I mean, the, the,

I'm not, the, I'm not, the fact, I'm a money, so, so,

so, he's, disloco, the coel, no, no, no, so it's,

like, so, like, so, like, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so it's, that as, mom, you're going to go to

the hospital and are so nervous and I'm and I'm and I'm I'm sorry. But

also I'm also another that you say, this is to nobody nobody

was, nobody I was, nobody was, I'm I've been to put

to put him to put him to make to make to say, but nobody to he

he was nobody's he because it a maybe a little a

maybe a so then then I'm Damien, that she knows

that you you're going a name that she's a man, he said, he said,

he's that, I mean, he's not, so, I'm very very well, so, then I'm

saying, he said Damian, that he doesn't, the name that you're thinking with the

letter M. And I see, that you kind of like, I mean, so,

are things that, that you you say, you say, you know, you've talked,

you know, not more in my house, I don't not, I'm not, not,

I'm, not, it's like, it's like, it's like, my house, no, I,

know, so, I mean, my little, and I, and I, I,

I, so, I, so, I, so, so, so,

that's, that's, that's, that's, because I'm between one and one and

I'm not I don't know , Yeah, you know, the Yeah, she's, I mean, so, the little, so, you know,

so I'm saying, oh, so, and then she said, and the, you know, and the yeah, she said, she was, he said, he was,

he was, he was to be the other and he was and he was and he was and he, and I, he said,

you, no, no, no, I, so, I don't know what I can't, I mean, I don't know I can't,

but she, and she, And you, you were satada in the seat at or in the day of the She was

She was sitting at a in the carionette And you? I was managing So you were

managing? So, he was he was He was he said, he says, he's that

he's always He says and he he's sitting in the antebrass. Uh-huh Is that

the the children, I mean, I mean much sitting in that in the caronet

right? Sure, well in that then I think that I think

had a year. Okay. And, and has passed the years, have

you ever to talk about to be? When she he's, she's having the same

the first the first no. No. No, still growing. Sigecien growing.

Sigecern because I've got a bit, I, or we took us took a

encounter in an event and me said, I said, I was to come. She said,

and I see that to ask for Damien. Me says, yes, is he's the side of

my, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

he's, he says, he says, he says, he's, he's, he's doesn't,

not, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, I'm going to

to be a so, with my kids, with Marcelo and with Jimenez. And we

have some mascots, some of those perors that we're used to get to get a

to be a lot. Today were at the night and to getty and mom and it

would to get to the dogs because not not not then I'm

those three days. And we're we're we're we're we're you're you're

to do I remember that, well, my his daughter, a little, and I'm a other, and more apart, well, and, also, we've been coming with Marcella, right?

And Marcella, well, is more little, but I don't know. I don't know, that many perils calleheros. And I don't know that there are pandillas of perros, right?

In that that moment, there's in in mind, but we're going to live, I mean, I I live, I live, I'm going

and Jimena and he makes apart, right? Jimena was more more confident she's she's really

she's over a car in where there a car and she and she and she a lot of

when I go back with the other perrita and with Marcello those four

perros literally they're they're they're they put in a file

and and like in in signaled, I mean, like, the rectorio?

Yeah, I mean, so, I mean, right? I'm going to do so I'm

so I'm angustia because Jimena yeah was there and I started, and I know the

and I'm so Jimena, oh, Jimena, where you're and then you're going to my,

I'm going to but I'm got to be the night. Never thought in those malditos perros

of the caro. So, I mean, the perrots not me going to let me want to try her,

well, this great-sita, but it's a caturra has seven minutes, then I said, no. I said,

it's a bandilla, I said, I'm, I'm, I said, no, I said, no, I can't,

I'm, and I'm, I'm, I mean, I, don't you don't you don't you

don't you, because my daughter because my daughter was, so, I'm still strisada.

Oh, And of the Nada out a dog, type Rodweiler, I mean

like, like, very much, I was going back and where I'm going to the perro

and he began the and he never I, I mean, I never never had seen how

or no see if so so I can manage the the

manages of the men, I know, back and he's

put in the middle of the four per he's doing what you

did you're doing, right? They start to lader and result that the

little people like they're like they're and they start, and they start, and they're

to go to go to and the little, no's the move, or the that's the

is the doesn't move, until the the perils don't, and he'll

and he and like, so, so, so, so, does it like, like,

they're, they're, lad, in a ladrido very bad so he's done the

middle and he they're to get the he's so so you know so

so so so I was like Marcelo and we we were we're

we're we're just we're we're we're on we're to be

to not so they're so But is that if you were, I mean, in reality, like the language no verbal,

of the per cent, of the girl this, of the, of the guy, it was like, like, like, almost a

movie. Yeah, so, like, more dominant, I mean, so, so,

I, so, I, so, ladro to the perros, those encodra, so, and he'll get

in filet, literally, I mean, and, and, and, and, does,

we, So, they'd have the media world and they go. So, I mean, I was like, I said, I mean,

they're up here. So, when they're going, I said, what I'm to go.

I'm going to my house. I'm going to my so. I'm going to get to himena,

because she was and I, no, no, no, me contested,

then I start, to get to get to to the way, I mean,

more more than we've lived a family, too, and then, she,

she, know, so, I'm, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm going,

I'm in the house of the family, and I see, I'm so,

I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, so, I, so, I, They all right. I said, like, how,

that's, like, very rare. I said, I would have seen more rarro what you've seen more than that's,

so, it's that, and I'm, I'm, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, and I'm

to go to back back. And, and I'm , m'am, you, you, you,

you, you, you, you imagine that, this, this, at the

this, at the maybe, we're , and I, I mean, I said, I go,

I said, I said, but he's got, he's a question. I mean, because in any moment, I mean,

you know, you know, so you're doing is to do their territory, right? Or, it has,

it's that's, I think, if you'd have been there's been kind of maybe of the

moment of that's that year to get to that year, Or so, the type, Rodwiler, oh, he was, he, like, he, in his

role of, to get to get him, he was so he was going, so he was going to that anecdote, uh, well, uh,

that's a person very favorite for me. Sure. Because, you know, I mean, a connection very important. Then, then he says,

Tia, you said, I said, I said, that he's always he's always he's you're doing.

He said, and he said, he's, he's, that he he's he's not not quite

to be to be sure to you know, he's he's, or to you know, he's,

he's, he's, no, well, I said, he said, no, well,

I, well, I, say, I, the, I, the,

I was, I'm really I'm really, I'm really, I'm really, I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure,

so, with the kids, and, and that, and that they attack to, I mean

to get you? To who are you? To, to get us? So, no, no, no. So, things that I

think are, I mean, I think, I think, if we're talking about of this thing,

you know, I mean, no, so, that's, that's not that's not that, that,

go, you and parate, or, in the night with perros, call, so,

and what do and what do, and what, and, Is that they're going to attack. And I'm to hear you

have you have you have seen the position of the four perros, I mean

they're so, I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, they're going to to attack to the perrita that I did you

try it, and I'm so I'm saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and so, so,

so, yes, possibly not we're not, so, Yes, Yes.

Yes. Yes. You're basically perished. Yes. I remember a story that had

many years without a mind. Me, he told him a master when I was in the

primary. Uh-huh. He said he lived in a barrow very bravo. It was a little

a place a good. Uh-huh. When he he was studying to be a master. And for

situations of noviasos, he had to a man to the other of the

other and he no he was of pandillas. So, then more

well, they were the problem. So, so I'm I'm trying for my life,

because yeah me had got to two, three sustos and I

had had been where they've exactly. One day regressando of the

normal, of the school for maestros, when I going to go to the

quadra, I'm going where the bandilleros are going to do

various of the casas and they're and they're like a

20. And he's they're doing. If they're doing it's because they're going to get

me, they're going to my my abelita me had said, that's that always

that I'm always that me encomendar the animas of purgatorio. Yes. He's being there

and I don't so creyent but no me was a thing, it was

the only that was going to be to be to and the things were

go better. I said, I'm so I'm so I'm my hand with

my man with I'm like I'm always always the and I'm and I'm put to say

orations to the purgatory. I'm went to and I know what I'm going

to be to be and I'm concentrate in what I'm I'm and I'm

going to and the pandierers they started to be and they're

and they started to have They did they did it, like two filers to my my left me They're going To get in the

house And at the day next one of them to me top And me says Hey, no's Wally, way Dice,

Arrele your Broncas, too. And then he says, how do you do you? I said,

I was like 50 cabrones behind you. And then he says, to be, what, what you're

saying? And he said, when you you've beenes caminandot detrath of you they're

to start to the cars people and it was a lot of people

much more than we did a lot we know and then so it was there

we're we're we're we're we're we're we're going to be

we're not not it's it was it's exactly

but it's but it for the language no verbal that

when there of people or of animals and that is like violence or aggression control those is almost impossible. Cas't impossible, yeah, and also, about, to be the time of the animas

of purgatory, that's other roo. You're talking to that's an exorcet, or so, that you, you're despirtas one of those, or so, it's, is impressionant.

I've heard stories, that in reality, no, I don't record very well, but if I'm impact when they say

it's that we're we're going to the animas to get to that's to get to that's

in the can be that they're in a situation of or something or something and they

get they they're really they get them but there are many important

when you when you restas to the animals of the purgatory then

then you all all all exists I mean, I think to all In some moment

of our life has passed some history, no? And, well, I have one very particular is with my

little bit more, but, but I think, those, I think, I think are, like, I mean,

so, yeah, not are the not, they're not, they're not, then, well,

a me, I'm going to say, because I know, because I'm, but, maybe,

I'm, at the I mean, when, when, when I mudd of a house or something, right? No, I mean, I mean, so, I mean, I'm going to. I mean, that's, that's, that should be living with me.

So, like, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, all, I, see, yeah, I don't know, how is that's, I, imagineate a process different, because if, if, is

that, that, that, that, that he's, that's growing, because I'm, that I, yeah, I mean, because I said to the I mean, but,

oh, is great? I mean, of your age, me says, I mean, he's,

I'm going to be like a little more than I'm a lot. He, well, he would be he would be

he said, he'd be the time, in the actuality, I mean, he says, is the time of a

same, I mean, wow, I, so, no, so, so,

not it's that I, I, I, I, I, know, I,

know, how, , how, how they processing. So, also is

a little more interesting, in trying to discover to how is that they're doing

doing. Because it is, I know, I don't if the word intellectual,

it's referring to what is going to be there, but, so, is, so, it's

a level, emotional, physical, all the development that you're about this

person. Or, you know, it's like, it's like, it's, It would be like,

I don't know if also if also I'm going to like the development that one

does that you're to say to say you know, you know, you know, you know,

I know I say that you know I'm fellesio baby, see? But normally

when he when he he's a year more, a me pass things,

I mean like, like, and I I'm always with a new with the age

to the age to be a time when he had a year when he's yeah, and it's exactly in the

date of his birthday and so so, after two years, a 26 of October

because he was a 26 of October, fallece a 2 of November in 2015

he. This two years I was I was I in my house was when

the pandemic And, of a repent, he went, this, de-repancy, well, and he was playing outside with his jugets, right? And he was a new,

was a new, that I was in my life had seen, or so, never, he had seen, but he gets the and,

and he's, he's, to get to play with Marcelo. So, I'll say, oh,

how you know, and me is a man, and me says, and he's, and he says, oh, how many years

you're, and me He says, I'm five. And then then I kept I like

like, I'm okay, I'm saying, me says, me does permit

to have and you yeah, so, yeah, so you know, so you yeah,

so you was a little I'm playing and I know, so, like I

like you like, it's rare, it's rare to be a little, or that

someone yeah, I mean, I, never never, the little

I went, I said, well, I said, who's, who's, who's, who's,

who's, he, he, he, he was in, he's, he's, and he

, and they're going to together and the and the little, so,

so, but then that's, that day, was the day, was the day that was

that I'm I'm brought a present that Damian came a year,

and then when I so, like, how many, how many you're five.

But I remember vaguely that he said, me said something like,

like, like, something, like, something, something, something, something,

something, something, something, so it, so it, so, at the he,

the, he has done, permission to play, right? Um, that,

um, that, he, he, he, if, they'd, if,

they'd they'd, so, normally, obviously, of being the same of the

colony, you know, you know, you know, you know, but if there was a connection like,

you know, you sent to that lasto. Yeah, I think much in that we connect,

although it's a laso invisible and, and to this vista, me, I'm

a, something, a me, very strange after some years. It's

very simple, but it very I was very strange. When I was in the primary, I took a company that in Nipunifa, no had been a lot of relation with him. Yeah, they had

passed 15 years. 13 or 15 years. And a day coming down to a place, me came to the mind that person and I said, ah, what is doing Marco? What is there

doing Mark? Three seconds after, Marko, after 15 years, de'amas have been seen, pass to the side me and says, hello, how you're doing

right? No. Yeah. In 15 years. He's been seen. He had talked about because

no it was a great friend. It was a person who did a yeah. Every one did his

life. After of those 15 years, never never to ever. After that

that day. And never I've never had in been in more than that

so so coincidencia but you're those type of coincidences is that rare also

too, too, at a moment to think in him, I don't see if you occur,

in the day there's many there's that you have the mind that you're not that

one in special has a special relevancy when it has been to have

for a circumstance. That day I was a point to present examines and the

thought of Marko was how resalted for over the rest and it's

like in something that's all my attention and even I'm doing. Ah, what's doing? Mark, I'm explaining,

and it's like, why I'm thinking in this? And that's what I'm going, I think, more than to say,

of a power personal, I think more well that we're in connection in that something that

we're connected. Yes, yes, is true. That's, that, that's exactly not,

nor how it's not but of I think that that thing we're and that these entities in this case Damian

that I don't know how I don't know I don't want to put them like a epitote a number

but he can be in more contact with that's that maybe are various types of

but we're we're going to the animals he'll generate this vincal

that that that probably with the with the kids generate

this contact and they are some their manifest for

the things that are tangible for those. Sure. If it's totally credible, no.

It's totally acceptable. And if it's so, so, so, if it's, I'm like

that it's like, I'm like, I'm not, I'm trying that he's that's like, that's, like,

those times like, you're, like, you're, like, you're, like,

you're, like, that, like, not, like, not more a

idea too. , but then then then this contact of this personita special

that I have also in my life that I'm this a lot of then she's I'm I'm

I'm saying I'm I'm don't know so I'm so if me it's something is something it's something

it's something it's something that I think that always will be able to always be present

in my life and if I think I'm I'm I'm I've

passed a many things but they're They're in the rargetta of the You know, so And there's, so.

And there's There's, there's. There's. There's. There's a YouTuber very famous that's called Jacob Wong.

Jacob Wong Quenta a story that he was when he was like a little a little bit in the

which is spelusnant if you want to be spelusnante but not it's if you

know he doesn't if you want he's some cabana with

some and you and being in the cabas it was a really a very a

night and apart the ruses were in a place there's a little bit buscoso

there had much noise outside. As he and his brothers were

with a little of a little and they can't be in the and they

don't even they're not they don't even they're they're they're so they

the little, they're going to and then we're doing the and we're doing the one's over the one's the

couple of the whole they're all the light apagas and they're the hands and they're all the day

next they're going to do you're and at the day I'm going to the papa what's

they're and you're very well well if you're we're we're we're not

the night we're not we're the and the father's that's Sure that no.

And then says, how's, like, clear, no. He says, a bit, so let's

go to get to the quarter. He said, let's go to the night. Stere in the hands and

and he said, and it was like a meter to be able no, no way in the

that we really, we're trying to talk our hands. No. So, so,

so, so, there was, there was there someone that was that he was

he made, that connection, and we and we can't do not? So, well, that's,

so, like, as like, there's, or situations that are so they're so,

when there's that kind of that's that's that's, well, so, that's,

that's, that's, that's, he's, he's, that's, he's, that's,

that's, that's he's, he's in the night, but it's but it has to

be the perspective, various people who have been here, uh, count

for their state of the animal they can digerier better than other situations that if the other optic,

they're not so not so there's really. There are things that are definitely. Like the the little

that was that was about to the camera and what's how is what's called Juanon?

Juanito. Juanito. I mean, so no is a new and if it's a bad.

I mean that's, I'm so, So, yeah, there were a connection between them. Exactly. But,

but also the other person is when it's when it's, no, that's no, that's but, you know, so, well, also, I mean,

are, I think never terminated. Because, finally, you know, I mean, I remember that my oldieie, I said,

when you see a phantasm to ask, to you, what, you know, I, so, I,

so, I, so, I, so, I, so, I, The what I can do for you in this space Terrenal, no? I mean, I'm going to

go to record two quarters after after I've never heard of that I've heard of like the moment I've never done that's a question. I mean, simply in all right,

you know, is spantado of the place. Well, is that also there are some that all I think has to with

our lack of power of percivil or to not to see a not able to

know exactly what is so it's where you know really to what you

have there's there there there there there was

that I think was of Raysa or Iisti I I'm

I'm to go and I want to and I want

to tell that that his abuel, he was in his

house and tendian to pass things in the exterior of the house. So, they'd

be able to the door. He's playing, he's to say, and d'A

phantasm, you're well, come to the house, here, he's the house,

here's the house, here, we've been, and what he is that he starts

and he I get a moment in that it's like a state catatonic and then they have

to have to do you have to the exorcism the abel to say that here a parenthesis

the exorcism not is quite a thing. There's many many. In this

case it was so so it he said he was and he mentioned a

something something that's that he's that he not was he was he's

mentioned that when when they're to revise the case that was in the moment in the

in the time in the time that's that's because if all not were that there

was a in the house. So, if they were the exterior and it was

they were, I mean, they were not that was out of and it was when he he was

to make to give the permission that he entered to the that this is

that this is a thing in that maybe are different So,

that's the same the same that we're doing, but it's the it's the but it's

that one of those or that's has and that's certain rules then they're

so they're they're they're doing in the case of in the case of

there's there's there's any local. There's any no, I think

yeah is sufficient I think we think we we're we're things that's

things that's that you're not prepared. Things that are not personal. But you know,

you know, there's a moment in the intuition you know, and you say, well,

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