HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Ep:017 DONES O MALDICIONES - PODCAST DE TERROR

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

Ep:017 DONES O MALDICIONES - PODCAST DE TERRORHoy en HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTES, platicaremos con Danaé Marfileño, que ha vivido varios sucesos, extraordinarios, los cuales la han llevado a buscar diferentes explicaciones a lo que ha vivido.Hoy platicaremos de herencias familiares, de el peligro que conlleva comprar cosas usadas, lugares peligrosos que son puertas al mismo infiernos, también comentaremos acerca de los habitantes invisibles que moran en nuestros hogares junto con nosotros, conexiones peligrosas con el más allá y el papel e importancia de las emociones dentro de estos sucesos.Bienvenido a este intercambio de historias.

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to have the opportunity to be in the program. Me commenter, that you have been here

various stories, is right? Sure, that's thank you. Many thanks for

invite me. The really, I'm a pleasure to be a great, and I'm

because I'm many stories and many things very interesting, no,

that they have to have been that I'm think the people not that

that's the other we're doing this time. And they're many long and scabroos.

So, the day of the opportunity to documentar these that we have done

this and you're and you are to be testives of these ideas and these

stories that we have been done, for what you do you do

I'm so I'm coming to start to tell you a story. Sure

that yeah This story me the story me the man to Elizabeth. I'm talking

with her the day of y'er but no is of her the story he occurred

to the family Ramirez but she was testigo and me he commented that

at the one of the episodes in one of the stories of the other of some

the other he said tell you your story need to listen

you Elizabeth, was in a call with Marianna Ramirez, a

friend of her from a time. They're talking about one and nothing

something. She's not a transcendent. She mentioned that is habitual in

your day to have to have to be a time. But a

day occurred something that while they're talking while

they're on the side of Mariana as a very

very a door and it's she rio with much force. And Elizabeth

he asked oh, and that portas and he noticed that Mariane started to talk to be

and he says, you know, is that they're starting again to pass our

we're talking we're talking about, we're and then you know, what's you know,

yeah, me a lot of you're in your house and said, no, no,

no, no, it's other but I think that yeah no

going to pass nothing. Colgo the call the last. Elizabeth was going

the call to be and she asked her. And she a man. He's his husband

of Mariana and he said, no, I'm with her. I'll be that she that's a

question, but no, no, it's in a little you don't know. You, you go to get to

to get to get to say. I said, I know, I know, I was able to He was going to my

my friend. Only me tranquillized a little because I know that's that I'm not a

minute, we've got to a coffee. I was too much I'm very very tired. But what

he said, I never had expected to hear to hear to hear when we went to

we're we're going to talk about what that had occurred about the day

earlier, and because he had altered that he had been a lot. And Marianna

me with all this. You say, is that that that's a week that's a second

and we've had been able to open. The door is of the door. We've

tried to we've got a psalmial, we've we've got a serrager and they said,

sir, the only way of that's to turn is to turn to hear

to do the and it and it after after after to be

to I went to the court, the door was a door was closed and not it was able to the situation is that the problem not is the door, but

what there is there's a thing I'm to tell what is going to because it's something new but I

thought that he was he said. He said that two years back, they had

a situation financial very good and they they've bought a ranchito very chichito

but a ranchito that had had been a son that had been have been planteded since much time and at the

final they've been the possibility to do that. When they're they've got that has been, that the cabaniita, more well, they've got in

that the cabanita that has the place, not is in so good conditions but also it's not very much

very home-ean, very calida, they're but the first day that they're not that a

quarter is a rarrow. A quarter especially it's a little bit a sense like tense, like

strange. A y'all them gave the impression that maybe could be that's

that I'm that maybe that's that way was in the sub-suel and that

that was a matter and that's was not what they were what they were that's

that's that's that's that that didn't that's one

years not not they were not on the door and

they were on other side, like if something something's moving to the

they're doing they're not they're not just they're like a good well passing

the days they're in the house and to clean that's the sensation and they

feel and they're totally and the perils the the

dog don't want to not they're they're more importance

they they're to get to things the house.

For that then they're two two years, one of five years and

a little and a little they'd like a much to be there's

like a place to put to play to get a and

a person that is that is helping in the

part external to make a to a little

to the the made the the moment of that

so it's a a Glep Firt and he he says Gretos

to the When they They said They said What's And they're He's He's

He's I'm Ponded This is When I'm Movient The Pounder

So it So it And it's It's No, it's There's Fisor that

There's There No, there No, I There's And I He's He's

He's He's And I'm There's There's No There's There's

They did so strange. But, well, nothing like a anecdote, and now they're like a centenario,

they're not know what is the they're going to the house for when they're going to the city,

revisar the value and two hours after the centenarian. No, it's a disappeario.

Desaparcio. The children don't know where they're not even doesn't know the house,

they're not even one thing, one, a anecdote they're extrana. Suppone that, the

that's he was going to get a little to the codice and they're there's no there's no there

no more but where you that's all that one and there more a treasure

occulted or something you know they're to the person that was they've been the

house to to plant to tell the endro the the endro

the little bit that you want to let's just to make to there to

when when they they they say oh, well, I don't want to

tell us but is that there's a case, he said me, me it's

when they're when I come in that the house, there's

there's there's there there there there there and

the guardian and a change a member to

a family. To me me I don't think much in those things but not going to

go to go to go to go so. So, then I'm going to the money he's got to

the money, he was he's going to see the thing, then then you decide. At final,

as they were a money of the said, hey, maybe there's there's a and we're

going to end up superstitions is, what are we're doing we're they're

they're they're doing that, and they're they're in that they're we're

we're doing we're having the theme to the rest of the family and there a cunea that they

said in being created in don't think in tonteries if you're the moneta tumble the walls

and kettens with the gold and they they're so they're a little time something

something something something said they they're they're they're at the

rancho to the room and all tenso all extra no they put in you know

they're they're going to keep up and it's more more tension in the house

like that is a quarter to start to start irradiate that's a little

that's a little they're they're they're they're they're they're

they're things that they're not they're not they're the

money never never came so then so one

a day they're they they're they're that really

it it could be that are going to be things that that's going to

that's going economically, what is the need to risk to the family for a tonteria.

So, the sir, he does do it, he occurs to do like something

that's a little, he had the little, the cat, that also, that's

also, he had been a her wife, to be a marianna, and standing in

the cell, he's this, no we know we're we're

you, but we We are the family Ramirez and we are the new new doleons of this place. We know what of the treasure and we know that

you have a trato. No, we don't interest any one of the two. And you don't are well-beenied. No, we know what is, no we know who is, and we don't interest to know. Vete from here, be't even,

get to your treasure, and let us to molestar, because no is bienvened. The fear that the instant as a art of magic So, they've all the

sensations desegradables of the house, and the perrory and the cat and they

metiered to get in the court. He never never ever did the

ranch. The problem surge after that after that that's that you didn't

be a good to be a good to be a family to tell us what you

did a form very strange the cunia she nogo much.

He said, they said, they're not they're not the money. After of that they started to

notar in it a attitude very rare and was always excuses to go to the house of

not at the rancho, to the city and get to get to get to one of

several several several but not they they were that they they were

and she she didn't and she she didn't and then I don't know no problem

if I enter in the quarter the fourth, so it's the quarter of her. Practically

she came and she came and it and he and it. It was very very quick.

All this went to all the last were in the rancho, the of the

house, the phenomena rare those have been vivid. So it was a little

that little so much so much, it was a little bit in the little

sopate. And they're they're to know that the house every

was felt more but they had That she was an indesiable. But the house of them.

In the of them. She had a lot of time. She was there. For two times per month. Three, four days. Well, in the house of them, they'll get a sensation incommoda.

Suppone that is for her. But one night occurred something very strange. Marianna, she's up. He goes to the hall. And she had to be made her computer

a Prendida she he he'll to do you get to

the cell listen out of the house that are

some there and it is very really because she has

been and never had heard and he and

he and he also instantaneously he printed a

video in YouTube on your computer in a

that a A priestessor is talking about the infestations and the exorcisms and she has a much fear because it is a time that consumm and says because it's a brewed that and in this moment

when it apaga he comes that comes to the passio he begins to see the noise and she'll hear the voice of the co-na da

that's talking like in forms repetitive and raras she gets to the fourth of big whewspers that is where she gets be that there's a

light but it's a light of a light of a it's like a bell because he's

there's extrano he's a ear and he's to know that he's making a little

rosa he's he was very inco he he said he's he decided

put to put her a cona in the morning next marianna she

she she she the door and he met to the quarter. As now nobody was limpied, because this woman's kept a much time there, the woman yet

also could have to scounder things. And she starts to make a little colors, consumed in different points of the quarter.

It has seen that he never had seen, but that he's relational to the esoterism, and in ojas that have photos

of the family and they're and then he says, what the demonious is this? He has He goes, he goes to the

Cucine and he says, what is this? What are you doing? What is this? What are you? And they say, me I'm going to beckon so rich with her money. She's, they take for a loka, they're going to

the brother and he decided that yeah no, there's more relation. One week after they're going to occur to things extranees in that house.

They're going to hear voices in the night. They're going to move the and the people. And one

day the children that not have seen the time, they're doing a video for

TikTok and at the moment in the camera, not they're how all all the

all things, in all parts, and as form they're going to go

the house, and they are they they're they're a man, the

he's what is this, all it's all orbes, strange, they're

the sensation disagradable as a rancho, and decide to do the same rito. He's

for the wife. They're the children, they're the animals, and standing in the

cell, it's, we're the family Ramirez, we're the own of this

house. We know we're not are you, but no, are welcome to be

let us to get us to not, no interest nothing no

message or nothing that they're not the not that they're

very so in the instant he's the door the

door they there no there no there but

there but that that that after when she

did the after the after she they're going

to say now now now tell me that that

and that all that me told this this

this time the chava not wanted to talk about but I'm a story about some in the

last I'm had occurred something that was a that's propone a new a subcriptor that's

what he's talking to what they're not going in this point when it's not quite I'm it's a

impression that, I'd some that's probably probably the solution are. But no

he's a situation of much fear. Because they're they're that they

had been about, but well, it's in that's a quarter there was some of

some of the well, the lady, and all of that's what is what is like kind of

kind of kind of too. It's about. Yes. But well who can

know what would be but there was my story. And right

that you're saying that's saying that I remember to various things that have happened.

Really, in my family and I have been very close to things over-natural

or, this, of fear of the people, I'm not so I'm not so I

don't know to believe that there are that things. In the past

if, right, now, I know, I, I think there there's like

some energy special in other plan or maybe. But really what we we have

like we know of a phantasm of the spirit who that's that's things, no,

no, I don't think, nor I'm not really in the demonios, angels,

and that type of but there many things that can't be able. And

to me have so said and then there so I kind of well,

what is what is what is what is what is what's Dana, me you know

you don't in the existence of angels and demons? No. No. That that, or,

not you know, that's, you know, that's a type of or what is what is what you

do, of this? Well, no, well, that, that's, that's a

name or or the idea that we have to the people, of them that's,

so I'm kind of humanized, no, of the ideas that we know, but,

but I think that maybe there's there's there's a that we're that we're that we're

we're those demons or angels, these these, these, these

series, that would representerian the well, so that things, not those

don't, I think, that's, like, the idea that we're, the name that we're

that we're there's that's so so I, I don't say, no, no,

no, it's because there many things can't Well, to prove what is,

right? No, we don't we can't have a answer. Okay. So I think there's a

other than I'm there. But yeah, these numbers, no, I don't see those would be that.

Well, that's my point of view, for a word. Well, now, see, now see my story.

And this, well, this is a story that I'm directly because it was directly,

this, and already with the story that you talked about for the money, and,

well, yes, I've I've heard much about these legends,

not, of the treasures, but well, in the case me or not

it's a good to be a little with a money, and

well, this story I was so I was I was I'm

in the preparatoria and I normally I'm the house

like in the morning because I had my class in the

time but I'm a time so I I

a a house in a there no there no

They were in the work or in the school. So, then was a lot of house. But I was

used to be a place, I'm doing to do you get to the time. And I was in the turn of the time.

So I remember that day I was from the class of education physical, then I was very can't

calorada and I enter, I'm, I'm open the windows, no,

no I did any movement more than to leave the mochila and siter

in the I said, I'm going to asker I'm a little bit more I'm going to get a bit and then I'm

doing a bit of my time. But as I know I don't have you know I mubles, nothing.

Only I just I'm the mochila and a lot of the sillon me sit and I was

I'm just I'm talking about and I'm just I'm just so I'm so of so I

so I'm so I see the sony the one a money to to go to the

piece. It's very characteristic that that's a question.

So, I'm made the little bit of because I'm was a little in the

house. So I said, I hear it. But I heard so I put a first idea

was, well, I'm going to look to see a try you to be a

one of so I think it actually there was a money on the side of

the of centavers, no record how many, but it was a money of centaubes. So, so me it was a lot of the more maybe I'm

in the cohenes of the sillon or between the cohenes of the sillon, so where I'm sent it, well, at the more so,

so I'll go to the table, the center, that has a part of above, the part of the table,

and a part of the bottom, I, and then, I was to recosted about, tantito, I'm going to to be to be a little more.

Then, I'm sorry the eyes, and I say, I'll hear to hear another money.

And I'm at the more more than the room, so I'm so I'm to make for the

same place, and no, I'm not, I'm not there's there's

a little bit I'm I'm, so I'm, I'm, so I'm so I'm to look

it, and resulta that was in a side, but the thing I'm

front. So, I said, oh, well, that's rare in that a sillon, I don't have sentado. I said, yeah, no could be that you,

I'm going to be able to the cohenes. Well, who's then. So, the recoged was another one

little bit of the same place, right? That's the other, in the part of the back of the center, and

me will go to be able to what, what's going, that's going to those monies where they're so, but I

said, you could have been to be They were in my accommodated I don't see. But as I said

no, I'm there's a window open open open or not. But well there's there's

so I'm just so I'm like a moment and I'm thinking and sas that I'm

that I'm another money and you yeah where they where they're where they're going to

those money's then I'm I'm to look and this third

money not there was a lot of no there was I

was in a part in the middle of the cell where there no no there was a way in

that was there was in a middle and there absolutely nothing around so

there was where it was very rare he went the money

even was a little but I think it was a lot more great and I think it was a little more

than the other so that there was where I said to see, to be, of where they're going to get those moned, because of the third,

or, well, more, because all, because, all, because allas, they're in different place. And the last, the only, of where it came, of, where it was, where it when I came to the

table of center, no, there was absolutely nothing on. So, I don't know, no, I'm going to get a moment and I thought, I'm thinking, then I,

well, who knows, no, I'm going to find any explanation. I'm going to to go to go to the school, I'll recojo, these,

these, let's, uh, in, in a little in a place, and me go.

And, well, with that, no, yeah, no, it's not absolutely

nothing, but always I'm going, because, it's something that's that's a but this

story happened, in a, in a, in a, in a one, in the

house, okay. This, what I'm, passed, like, as the

time, days after in the transcurs of the time, were

going to more things. And well, the other things were a little more

this, like, like, as it's, but, well, for me this was

the most tangible, because they were things that I did, I was

I, I, I, I, put, and the other things were,

was the things that the family view, but, let me tell me,

to let me, to Yeah, I'll have to be this story. Well, it's that my

father, a certain hour, he was just only in the house. We were with my

mother and my abuelita. We were still little my little more chica

than you. So my father that, when we came we we got to he was

he said he's sitting on the and that he was he was he was he was

he was he was he was he And I said, ah, well, yeah, we're going to dinner. Yeah, we're going. So he said, yeah, I go, Yvon. So I'll open the eyes and look at,

to see, see, I'm my mom. And result, that no, there's nobody. The house still, yeah, the whole, oscura, just the television preended. So, my papa, says, that I sent me, clearly a man that me took,

the homero, that me desperto. And he said, but, no, no, no, no, no, no, he marked my mom and my mom no

still we're with my mama with my abelita and he said no we've been to go to go to

get a little more than we're oh no no no no more no they'd be able yeah well it's but no

no no no no no no he's after yeah after we're we're going that's

that was one the other that also that also that also that also that was we were

we're we're we we're in the in the in the comedor of the car

And the commodore was accommodated in a way some of the commas in the room and were you were to be the

kitchen and other in a lot you were at a little bit of where not was so we my mom, my grandma and I

were we were we were and my papa that always sat in the header and was always sat down at

so we're all senating and of we're just we heard of that something that something was that something

And all of us all down. So, oh, no, no, it was nothing. He said, oh, I, and he was, he went. And he was there a minute. After days

after days after, he said, to my mom, they said, no, it's that I said, because I what was that in

the alacena, where we had the food, and cereals, says, one of the casas of the cereals,

it was was out like if someone was trying to like someone of where the repisa, it's a

call. He said, so I'm not you know, it's the time when I'm saying my dad,

I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to say, because this this is this is going to say,

no, then I'm so I said, but all this that I did you know, but

so I'm that's the same time. Those two things to be to be my papa,

and, well, the of the money to the what the thing is

what the what was my my mom yeah, she saw a or something. And she, in the

morning, she always she always she never, before we're so she was reading the Bible, she's very Catholic, that he's very Catholic, that's much a lot of this, then she was reading the Bible, of the spadles to the escaleras, and she said that she, of reoho, saw that she was, she thought that we're

one of those, my hermina or I, and she said, ah, well, yeah, so, yeah, so, you know, well, she, I mean, I think she's reading, rezzing, no see what's doing. So, so it's going, she has a

that's going to the back, she's going to the back to the room to the and she's, and she's, well,

well, the way, well, she, she's, she's, then she, oh, well,

it's all much, she's all the lot of this little bit of some of the last time, before,

so, I'm going to let's do you want to she went to she's, you're saying, she's,

and the a little rata, this little she's a no, you know that's going to be doing a

other, then she's that she does, well, she's got to the kitchen,

no there in the kitchen, be for the window to to the patio, no be nothing,

no movement so it's that's so it's actually, and effectively no there was

absolutely nobody in the patio. So my mom so I'm kind of

how now she's up this this new any of any of any one of the

one that has been. So, it's met, subes, and we know, from the escalarer, the next to

we're going to be us in a few more I remember that I heard, I'm, I'm, I'm still, and I know, no, no, we have backed,

and Selene, well, I'm, well, I'm, and I don't know that has been done, he's there down, so,

then, so, he's, oh, that's, oh, and then when she's then, when she's,

he's, no, I, I, Well, my mom no I didn't say. After

yeah after after then we know it's that you clear I'm

that a much much was a little down the door to go to me

and he went to go to the and I thought that's so that we know

we know we didn't really that it or because

after after after after after my mom like

I was like platics of Bible I was that

was with various and one of the and one of the people she had about

so much very preoccupated with something that's that's his daughter

had a few days that had had had she he was I was

that she was I was always and I didn't know where

was where was where was so so so

like so so for me and I'm for my do you know, I'm

really bad, I'm going to do with the nights. So my mom, no, we're going to do we're going to

do this. But my mom, where the woman said this she said, she had been several

times to the house, because my mom had the plattica, then so he kept thinking.

And, well, my mom always has really has really a kind of of this type of

things, and if this this is this she's, it's like the spirit of

this much, then then you said the the had the little large,

and he he's going to she said, she said, she was going to her a plier black, that I'm going to be

the plier of black, and I'm sure, and the lady's he said, no, well, if my little bit more

and so I'm so I'm, so my mom he took, like, like, it's, and he said,

ah, well, my mom, no, he said, he had been, but he he said,

no, if it's, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

he's that my mom what you did you did you already with what had

done with the family but obviously always with in the

name of Jesus and doing and all that kind of of

things that here here not you know you

not in this house this we don't you don't

you not you you have you you got to

say I'm so I know you to do you to get a

my mom did a a lot of a lot of things And, well,

after that, well, now no no soceded nothing in the house. But all of

that time were going and then it was going with this of the muchach. And now

just to conclude, according, said in the church Catholic, I don't see if

you do you know, the when you see a money, in the case,

or of you know you you can you get a money, supposedly

is one of the animas of purgatory that they're that you that's

for them for you to be to be a paradise or that they're in the world,

in the life eternal. So, in that time, I'm more like that I'm the way,

with the money, and like, this much she needed that they need to for her.

The really, I know, I know that's it's been, but, was a

time where there was several sucesos very other and at final, that was

what did my mom, and that was what So, I remember a

story that me told just a couple of times. Lusma me

said, that when took her first work, she she

made a very a manager of a general.

This general in the other that were not because

had too to be there was there was she

was she was she was she Well, invite me. We're going to,

we're going to, we chambre a talk about, we're doing a tarred of a lot of a car of a lot of

the general the general. The general no, it's not true. No, I've done

to do anybody, you know, we're going to start house. The invite that will

be the end of the end of a week to see to be in the time in

that there is cell this past in the 2014 more or or

and what What the thing is that Luzma, in that time, as his first work, still not had any car, in any vehicle, and she moved in transport public and at all. So, if I was coming into the house, and I had, had been.

And when it was getting to the house, be one of the curtains of the second piece, that's a move. The house was a lot of a ventanales. The house was a lot of a house, a lot of, and pretty. So when I saw that Movedo the Cortina

He said, He said that he's He made He came to get And me He came to receive She's coming She's comingando

She's And getting And getting And he Marks the Cellular Two times The cellar

And when It's about to son To know The third And he He contested And a

voice of A boy of A He He says No It's But not

because they can enojure and he culled. And he says, what is that? And if apart, not me had commented

that they'd have said, he's that's weird. Sige coming the house, poltea and where

was the ventanal, be a little a little a chaparito that he is there

and he where he does the sign with his little of the indice like

he's he's put in in the little of the lavis and

she you're you And he says, okay, he's a subriens very rare. That's a mano

that's a man he he's not a rarer, and he he's like if he's he's

like he he's the detail. He's a man who is a person, and for

so no he's not done he's probably for maybe try to

she make she makes so she keep coming the

house she'll be to mark and now the telephone is a discuelled and she'll be able to call her instant and then she says you know

this is that this isnton no I'm going to that's telling instructions that put in that plan that I want to get to a

susto to the door and he starts to the timbre and he starts the door with force

and he says here I'm I'm I'm going to and then so occurred something

that no, the door the door is able the door, no one

there's no one of another other side, it's the door, it's

the little to get the little to get the and the little to be able to

the door, and where he got the the door, it's a

carable completely. So, she she's like, what demonio has been

to come to come to come to sound to a clachson and He came a car stationing and he's

a car to be a new his friend and he says Lusma how you are you're doing me to get the

cellular in the car and he he says what's what's that's a boy

about the play about bad he says the boy that's the kid in my house

he's right I'm I'm he said a man I'm in the venting he's

he's just you're you're you're nothing to hear. He said, the problem is that passed 10 years since then. After that, of that's success, we're still being

friends and all normal, but I entered of various things. The house, no, I had bought properly she, she led to her a tia. The tia had been there, because she had not liked to be

in that house because when his child had six years he died of a pulmonia and all the house he was recorded. And the last is that he said two months

me showed the photo of the and was the little man that the window that the problem is that I don't know what was

what was the door to the door because it was a man. Dana a a lot of

things that are in the house and not necessarily those we we're we're

we're not for so they're there no yeah there's I'm sorry you know

no it's that I'm not it but of all the most one so I'm sogestionate

no so like to agis the yeah it's interesting that

that's that story and that and that me that right that

you that in the in the things I I'm that

in the family I don't know I know I don't know this person

a man, that, well, the family said that he had the don't of to be able to

the people that had had been pasted, well, the other world, well, the spirits,

and he said precisely this that you have you said that a sometimes that sometimes they're

in the houses, but not only only in the cases, he also he also

they could get to be aferrados to a object. So, so,

so, that if had been a object very precious for the person, then then

there's kind of encirrated or inceau or simply the object, no? So,

so I said that not would be not not come around even, even that's that,

not come around and all that's, because he said, well, is that you know what you

know what can tryer there, how many the spirit not, uh, this,

tryga there. So, then the, well, the people the people,

he said, precisely this, when were so, when there were things in the house, they said,

then to see, to be a see, what you see, he was that he

had to be not not to be because he was not he was so he was to be

them, even if was he was he was a single of the but even

he could describe he'd try a top of a color with a sombrero

or no sombrero or no sombrero so described a all. So, the

people he said, I'm going to go to what there. I'm going to see what I'm that I need to

that's a request that's that's a absolutely nobody in the house, degen me only to all, and

when I I'm going to get to be and you're going to get. So that's that he did, and

the family was used to, in the case, for example, of my abuelita, she says

that one once passed, that, this, that they were suede things strange, that sentia like voices, that oya ruts, and then he said, what happens is that there's a lot of

some things that you have done, and even he said, you, pass me all the presents, I me last I'll get all the details of that story. The case is that

he gets the the rope to my abuelita then and then says, yeah, it's still clean, yeah, no there's absolutely

nothing. But no he said, but if there there's a story in that she, more or less than

was the same house of my abelita, where they said to all my little my abelita and my old little to

have a family very extensive. So, he's all my tios, and let's do you to do you to do it,

let me me here in the house. Because two of my tios, that were in that moment supposedly have

heard things, had seen that was being that was that was pared on the lights, that a

sombra for there pass, then they'd they were very very very

very much and they're going to be in my little, he said, well, dehem me, I'm going to

see what, and you're going to be the time and they're going, he's he's explain. What he

was that there was a man that was a many years before that he was

a house here in the case, before he's before to be the colony if it

took a there a lot just in front. Or I think when

they were when they were I was going to say, but he said, but he said, he was having an accident before that

had been a thing that's, he was probably, he was never he was there. So, for him, was,

not had passed time. So, then he, he was, he was, he, not thinking

that was a place where was there, I know, I was sure, I know, so, then the

man, he said, no, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, he's described how it was he said, but I, but I, I said, but I was

now there's nothing in the house. So, I'm my

mother, and my mother, that's all my my kids, the

of the kids, he said, he said, that he had been that all that all

that's then that in the family could have there

had people, there there for my little, well, for the

my mom, that's like, my my and my kids,

even, even even, even, even They said that many times they'd

or, uh, or, I mean, I mean, they'd, I don't see,

like somberas and that were in, there'd things, no see. But, they're

to say, that in the family had that that was. And, yeah, just to

end of, um, this, this, this, this not is part of the the deal,

but it's to the family. A me to go, and that was my first experience

in the that were only something that I see. But, well, no see,

no see if my imagination, no I can't I'm going to tell you, that's the first

of the first of many things that I did it. And is that we

were in a reunion family, with the family of my father, and one

of my two of my years, he had had fallen, but he always

put the music in the fiestas. He was there was the esterio,

and he was we were in the Fiesta, all talking, I normally in the

fiestas just I'm just a I'm not put in a lot of the never put in nothing,

so while all I'm talking about, I'm playing, and I'm going to where I'm the stator

and I see a person sated, and me he kept being, and I see a

man, then I'm my mind was, oh, then my too, my t'

my t'est putting the music, but it was a instant and then it's

How? If your your Tio yeah felles and then it's

so it was like I'm going to and I'm not over and I'm there

other person that was the that was that I know that's nothing

to be with the figure of my so it no me I'm kind of I'm

kind of I'm I'm not I didn't I just after

after after some days after I'm my mom

and obviously my family that, no, dills to you know, that's,

that's, I know, that's they're, they're, and they're like, I'm going,

so, because, I'm that I'm not a little my time. I'm in

the time. I don't know what happened, Cesar, but I can't say that I

saw, I'm there in front as front, as prepared for, you can't put the music,

and move, and I see what has been really, but after there, but after then my

family were, like, Danae also, has the, this,

the same that was, I see, to the and to the other and the other and the other and I'm,

I don't see, but that was one of the experiences that I'm have been that I'm

have seen. I'm I'm going. I'm that you're about, one not I'm not

I'm prepared, but a time. In a house, and the city, no, fellesio

the family, and they were born all those two of those kids were six.

For when When they're Farrick Fycese, the major of the children have

about 20 years and the men of the first. So, really are people

people who were to have to be a family of the night

of the morning. In that house, during many years

occurred many things strange, but not all all

spelunate. They're really really really really really. One of

the most me want to mention to mention is that

he occurred to various people that when they

were to look at any member of the family

at the moment in the same they was a second window

you do you see a and you see you the house

in that the second window had a little light

a black and they they they were when they

they had a door the door and right

it is all the people that are to see that people that

they were that if if they were there a person that the person that

was that was not not he was he got of the work

or he was station the car or whatever

something and the house was there was there brothers,

they're and, and being talking, someone botta this story, that had

passed to a big of her super recent. And so, Ficate, Maricela, came to

look at she, she got, she got to talk the door, and he said,

that someone opened the ventanita, that moved the cartina and he said, he said,

he said, he said, and then she was saying, what my on the don't, because

not me abren? I mean, and apart, let me pass, and there's a little

and I'm there's a little, and I'm the idea that the person that is the

person who is your brother, the other your brother. And so then then

there's the brother, he said, well, but is that I have two

years that I don't live there. I've with my family in other other

other and says, yes, but Mary Zara not said

that's And, you, that's rare, because to me, a me, I mean, me, a question my spouse, that when we were about to casals, one day he goes, took the door, opened a window, and it was my brother.

And the brother major, he said, well, for then, I didn't live there. And he said, and when we opened the house, no, but it wasnta

that all the other that had occurred to that. And then, he said, no, and you, you,

you know, and you, how was the person. If you said, no, as you know, I never asked you. Then they asked, then they're

to say, you know, you know, that's a story in that you did you in the

house? Yes, yeah, I'm, I'm, describe me to the person

that he brewed. Well, when they described, it was exactly the same person in all

the people and he was the father. It was the description was like the

was the person, that if you had a same with the kids, but

had certain characteristics that the children no. So it's like if

he would be going to him in the house. The other history

has to have to these situations familiar in which when a person

of a way he did not even said if it said if

he did say if this don or this characteristic to

have a a sensibility a different and and

it herer. But are these don't because a people who have them not know

doesn't know they're not they're not not to not have them means know they're doing it's

like a way out of your house and not necessarily you know you know you know

you know you can't you can't you can't do you can't do you can't

do that well well me me told one of one of the stories

more escalofreant that I've heard of this. She says that her mother,

all the life, all the thing she has like a facility to see and that not are there

that the other don't perceive but that those things they're information and they

can't know things and resolve some problems for those she not had

no there would have a form to to do it that

She doesn't say that these things are phantasmas. I say, some things if are the essence of the person but other things not.

And there are the form of reference is of light. There are things that are like of the and that I

consider good and not me make to feel fear, but there things very those very

those. That I don't want to get to not care that I'm that I'm perceive.

Because when they're they see, and are things that generate much MED

But I don't say to they are I'm in all I'm all I'm all the

family know that the mom has been that don't let me let me

but when this chica and pass to her adolescence she

she does know she does she does she not she not she well

normal under common in this camp but she but she but she

not she no she can't she but she of his own. She is he perceives in when she's when she's

doverne. Tiend to have a sonno's lucid, but the suns lucid those identifications and they have a problem

for her. But it has other type of dreams that are different, in those which she is

that is the world real but also is a sunno lucid. And in those dreams

if they appear in persons that and they have fallen. And in those people that are they are information

that she has no have any form of having in the life real. A

raise of that came out of the family to resolve some some that had

from information that she gave her her that no

nobody that nobody saw she only he saw

he during much time and he's external the

information that did the Bula and for so they resolved various problems. No, me quissue

do details because he said that were questions sensitive. But there's a phenomenon behind of

these dreams, and is that she has that you know the notion of time

very very. Dice that a time, it's a time, it is a

time, but in the real, have passed to have been about 14 hours to be

very very can't and it does that it's a kind of quality that not like a much, that she's active, because she doesn't know that she'll activate and that desactivity, simply occur.

It's always he occurred at the moment of to doorme. But there was a day that this not was so, and this is the history. In Colombia, there's a place that the people say that are the ports of the infirno, or that were the doors of the infirre. And it's called the Bronx, and is in Medellin. no

I don't if they're in Medellino Bogotah people of people of course corrigame

here in commentaries it's it was because the day of they're they're

eliminated for complete the place were there were

eight eight edific that they were just at

the commandancy of police that that was the

place was custodied by a group delictive that

they were I jeans. I'm just I'm talking about the story of

the years. And in this place, nobody could enter. Nobody.

Persona that would be a person that was being able to be eliminated for this group

elective. There was a place they were in the house of pique.

For a Mexican a house of a pique could be sound to a

place where the people is a druga that son where they're

on the put piquettes. The casas of pick were and they

desacian all it was all the all of rest human for all parts

and in a place they're a portal of the infirno one

the police said that that that's the place that

should be to do and two six six

members of the in the madrogate they they they're

in a red a massiva and all the people

the story that I'm to It was occurred two years after. That place

even no it was the house were in the whole of the police. Nobody lived there.

All the places were scenes of different crimes and there were investigations in course.

This chick, she knows that exists that place, but never had had been

the necessity to pass by there. Asying some the center of the

city, he to pass close and at the moment in the he's

coming in front of the place, it's something and it is a

time, his mind in one of these dreams that he had had

had always I never she she she not

not not the change the instant when when

he went to see at one of the

other the other it was a dark. He said, I felt that I was caminand

but yeah not in the earth. It was other place. In

that place dark, all the sunbras sombras that were my presence

and they started to come to me and they were to make to my

hands and my and they were to come them they were

they they were they're to say we here. We don't we're

because to die us to get us to get to see a fear of because

not they were like those phantasas that some I saw in the these, they

had so much joy and that fulia and they were so full of emotions

that me were being being and I didn't make

my my mom said that when we started that

I was a little bit I was congelated and that I said in susrots, Sackam, here, for favor, Sackam. Me took to take the last man and various people had to move it because I was

being put down to the piece. It was more of the normal. I was going to think it was a hour in moving for

three cases that midden approximately 25 to 30 meters. In that time, what I I lived there

inside. It was a infirno. I don't live like if were 25, 30,

40, 40 minutes. I was it as had been a time. Every one

of these almas was and I took and I had pressure

and me am you you don't you're going to get to

never. Never you never you you going to you're to get

with you sometimes there times. The somras were

in the windows appeared sombracean, of the nymphs, of the young, of the

young, of the day of day of that I'm that you was the place.

And it was very strange. But it was all the things that were

that that the water. And me I'm that

that that one that had a time that they

did they they were a got a got a got to

a He said, I mean, they'd the same I don't understand. Why?

It's a moment in the I'm a lot of and my mom said that you

had said, but that I was in a trance extrano, and that the only

that I did you to pay to to give a little and that

I'm that I saw that I see see that. Like one

after after after after I ran and I said,

So, since I don't if what I have a don't. But definitely I know

I'm not I'm the control of and that I don't know to be to be a don't or

maldition like that? That crazy, it's really, it's a

this, well, what fear of that of this type of things and you say,

oh, no, I want, or no I'd want to experimenter something

like. Yes. Is that I imagine Dana, I've a little we're talking

before to grab I'm imagine these dones abilities perceptions, how you

want you want to you're like you have a radio for the which you

can't synchronize different frequencies in some of the frequencies

you are to synchronize if if you were in a

middle of a aliads. But as you know what you are what you're you're synchronizing,

you can't synchronize to your enemies and you're just giving the information of where you're and how

you're trying. And it and it in some of these don't what is that's that in the

case of this she can't be a because she's not been experimenting and simply it's

just where it's kind of how, who is what what is what vinculo what?

Who know. It's like, for what you are the victims of the place.

Some of the right. But she not decided that's only that she had the radio and

the repentro in that frequency. Some people experimenting like with the

ashrals or with suns lucid, so they toping with things very

because I think that's part of the really really So, there's a risk in

because there's many stories in a lot of that other reality in the that's not all all is good and not all the

but you know, but you know, for the place in the you're in the you're in those you're in those

you're in that you're in that you're exactly who going to connect with your frequency, your signal,

or with that what you do you? Well, you've said, no, that other

other or that like another like a kind of kind of a parallel

to that you can't get to access to get to and as you're like something

you're so I think there can be something so right

that you talk that's talking about that perception that is extraordinary

not different to what normally we can't see or perceive in the world. Well,

to me has succeeded certain things. No, that's a grado, right? No,

of that's the what he happened to her, that's so terrible, no? Very extreme. Yeah, very extreme.

But, me record, it's that you said that, I mean many things to the mind and

many stories and many things that I'm, what, what I'm, what I'm what I'm what I'm

what I'm what in the mind something that for me was

a very because if I had a reaction physical and not

it was one it's one three three well the

third was different like I started but the

first I think that was for something that I

felt because I feel I and then I going and

you can you can be you Well. Resulta that in that time

my, my, my abuel was a very very and

it was like, uh, were like, he was that he was a that he

he was to, uh, well, yeah not to have the energy that I,

I was used to be to be my abelos this, very independent, sanos,

sanos, coner energy, could they'd to get and all. But,

my abuelo of some for this time was going to

get a little so they're they're that they're not a lot of

things that's going and my abel so I know

he's I think he was he was he's he's very

too he's he he's he he's idea that

that your family or those are to be to

never to was like, I, I don't think that I'd go to to go to even. And as

it's a lot of some infartos before, I said, no, I think it's

not, my mother's part of the and I'm and we're to go to get to

my mother and and not we're not more. Well, well, I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm a new a new school in the

that was doing classes and we were in a junta of these that's

that's before to enter and I'm I'm really that you

know I'm I'm know that I'm really that I'm I'm

I'm coffee, I do that because a sometimes I'm that reaction,

no so I remember that I had done coffee and I said,

I'm I'm I'm I'm I, I know I'm I'm

I'm and I I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm all

the whole and I I'm I said, well, what's what, what's what I was going to, and I started, I started to and I started to, well, to tranquilize me.

This, before I started to think that, well, it was anxiety, you know, that's a lot of attacks of anxiety and all of that. So, I said, I'm just a lot is the anxiety, because it's a job new. But I'm almost

every day so. Then I, I, um, I, take the camion to get to the house, my mom me says that in the house of my little bit, I'm passed for there.

I go and I I feel my so I need I need to recostar me or something. So I'm

acueste like the body and I'm like no I'm not I'm not I'm not

that's that I'm that's that I'm not I'm I'm going to I'm I'm going to

be a taqicard and it was a bad and it's horrible and like

I'm like if my mom my mom said a more if my mom said I

I'm going to do coca, like a little, I mean, a little, like a drink or something, so, I'm doing to and all the time,

and then, and then, I said, no, I know, what I'm down to, I'm going to get to the

time, and I see it's a past, and I'm so I'm so I'm a little, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, but just in that moment

in the in the time, it's, I'm in the image, now the image

of my my abuel, that was recosted, they were to get to get to

and get to my mind that's a idea of, that's idea of, that's a matter,

no, no, it's a lot, I don't know, my my abel, in a moment,

so I'm don't know, I'm not, I'm not, because it was very very very very so, like,

in that I'm kind of, I'm, and I'm if I fall yes, what's

what's, I'm going to be going to live many years, and, so, a

other a house and then I'm going to my brother

and I'm going and I'm going and we're going to be a lot of because she was going to and they're

things to all these fias that we're doing all and we my papa and my papa and us

about and no suelt the bomb of your old and he's not so I know

because he he's that the fact is that we gotro disprevenida and my

woman and we started like you in a thing of manualities and the

people that's we're getting and we know we're we're

and we think that you I'm thinking that just the last year was when I

was like I'm prepared as I whatever I was yeah when I

did all that maybe this could sound like well

it no it's not a kind of that but why

why I'm I do I think me pass all that of the day earlier.

My abelito falle and then yeah, yeah, it's a whole what he

has to know, the beller and he before. A time after, a man,

he was also he had cancer, then he was interna after the after the years that

had given, the therapies and all and he was still yeah and he was all the

familyaries and all we went to know to be to for,

it's that they were they were like, I'm like, I'm going to get a

little bit time, I know so. Then I'm so, then we're going. And we remember that

I felt the tachycardia and I felt much a pesadess and a mind was my mind was

my time my tio yeah is going to be to not, no, not was something

that I was a really was a mind of, yeah. or so, today is

his last day. Yeah, this, it's going to be a matter, in whatever moment,

I'm going to I'm going to do so, because I remember that we're going to that's I'm still

that I'm still still my parents, I'm trying to calm me I'm alone. And, we,

we went to the house, and then they're going to my papa in the madrugat to say

that my tio was had fallen has fallen So, there

was where I said, like it's like the I'm the world is a

feeling so. She's so much does this sensation. And I said,

well, that's a way, I don't know, to know,

so so I don't, but I was so I know the

third was with a woman that was with a she And, well, yeah

She was more I was so if she was she was more, because she was not was my my uncle that were more

grand. But what what was a time is that was a bit was that was that was we went to

visit her I was the last I was I was really bad but when we went

I felt so I'm so nothing so my prima me said yeah

when we we don't say, because for this, my family has idea, no, of that I have a certain or something.

So my primal me said, oh, yeah, my mom's going to do you know, I mean, I never had told the other

that had passed, but she like, I was, I'm like, that I'm going to do you, no, no,

so what? And I'm like, what I'm, so, I'm saying, no, I'm trying to try to talkerla,

no, you're trying to try to you're, you're going to be to your time, the time,

that's necessary, but your mom is very grave. We know what you have said to the doctor's,

in any moment can't happen. But you don't you're trying to try to keep. But in my mind was,

my Tia not's about to do you. No. I don't see if I'm to do you, but I don't

say anything to my Prima. Because I've always made like I'm like,

I'm not certain, are the idea some ideas my ideas my and not my

my time. But I have the certainty that my Tia no no no

no no, I've sentied to the murder or no has seen that the sense of the

death that's maybe more than but in this time not. And effectively

I think that's two, three days. And the day that my prima was,

he was to get with us to us to get to our house

and in the madrugated I was I was I'm I'm, I'm I felt

I'm I'm going to I'm so I'm and I'm no Anna no no no no no

you're not you're not going to but in that moment it was like so it so I'm

so you're to be and then we're not we said well in the

morning I'm I'm going to get a I'm my morning my time you're

so I'm you're like so I mean, because just me desperte if not at the same hour, a hour,

a hour and I sent me that oppression in the and I, well, I was, but I didn't

want to, like, I said, like, I said, and, so, and,

so I, I, I said, I, I was, I'm a time, I'm a

idea of, when the woman comes to something, so, So, that's that

that vibrator or that sensation. Yeah, no me has never been to pass

no see, but at least those three times and it

and I have talked, I'm I'm that I have been

to know to know a person and that a very

little time fall in this in this transcurs since

the last this last. I think no until

already no I've passed. Okay, okay. So could be related

not so that you don't know that you're to be sure that's for that that's

no, no, not you've been, of the actual, those were the

most those were the many, there's there's no, there's

any other kind of, of people and people lehanna yeah, so, but

no, No, has been something that I had been like I have been a lot of so, so, no,

no, no, I've been able to develop around this, is that it's that's very related with

our emotions. So, when there's a vincule between the people, a basis that is the

point in that occur in certain type of phenomena, and when there a a vinco null,

a vincuole, so that that's what it's what it's the that's it's a

that's very interesting. It's what what you what's what you said. If you say, it

was something I'm well, well, I'm just, I'm myself, I'm

really, but I'm a lot of exactly the same way, the three times. Let's let me

That's a One of A good Hypothesis A probability More than In a probability More than

That's much Coincidence That's That's three Okay Danae Me Contrown

This story So, and it And it's A story Difficil to diger The

Abelita Of a Aemigua She was About a to die. Yeah, of

actually, I've had been many interventions in urgencies. And the medical

had said to the family, that was to a moment, that the person until

that the moment. The family finally decided that this time

would be in the time. Because she wanted to be in the

desire in the house and my friend in that I was

about 20 years. Well, one a night she

she she's she she is that her she

is face like molesta and he he said, I'm going to you're going to you're going to get to

get to be that you're not going to get to get to so I'm in peace and let's and then my

my friend she's she's alterer she she didn't but he did much and he says

right you are you you're doing what's going what's you're saying no it's that they're not

my moment that's they're So, he's what you're doing. He said, I'm saying,

meha, and I'm going to the door, no, they're doing, and said, and where he said,

he said, and he's, it's a little the coo, me, he bented to the

and then he was he, and then I, and I said, but not you can

say, that's the man of a man of a man of because it not it's not the

man normal. He said I'm easily, I I was from the base of the Cuello,

to be able to about a lot of 70 centimeters. It's something and that thing was aplastable and that wastesed to the

piece, and my mother just he said, "'deja my nieta. "'Toboda not is my time.

"'Vette "'the "'reepente me "'move, "'pude "'cimine, "'and, "'and,

"'and, So the spada, I'd try it marked, but those marks of my piernas, no see what it was caused. I suppose that the other things that I be. That's when you mentioned about the stories about the murder. Oh, no, is that that time. Well, that was what was what I happened to me,

but I've heard, I've heard, I've heard, that I've read it various times in different people, that they say that when when they're going to when they're to be the people

or people are in the hospital, for example, the other camillas or or what that's

they're, they're a, a man vesty or a mante and a mante of various stories that I've readed

and various people have done. So, so I don't see if it has to be there with the

murder, over all hours before or a night before that the person They say,

they're in this, this figure all vestyed of a man, that's like a right of the

person or in the person. Wow. So I don't know. If it's to be for there,

no, with those things or that comes for the person. A person that came

here, me told, or he in the podcast, that when his mom

was a very very even it was not a not was a not a

not a fear of he was inspired a tranquillity and she he was she was

she was a moma because had a a form of terminal for

that could make this this she was she she was

she was she was the she was but there there's the

murder of some multiple caras has have we've heard in

many of stories. There's a story in special that I'm that I'm even a

think. A chica had a life of the most normal. She had a she had to

a year. She had a year, with a cellar so, so,

so, so, so, yeah. Yeah, of the MP3, that was

the first that was the first of those were the cellars analogics,

before that that's it's all the technology of the Towscreen

and that I remember. I mean I'm a yeah, I'm a cellar

in the faculty. You're to have that? Yes, yeah, it was the that

was the one of the orange. Mm-hmm. She had a trick.

Like, the the passing music, not so much so it was that

that was that that cell was a good audio. And

then then put to these can and when when it was

the song that I wanted and I'm a little then she she had a way of a

playlist of the music and the music and much more before that existed

the Spotify one a day her his mom was and she she

she was in the room she was in the cellar the the mom

she left the house in the house so she

went the when regreces on the other she's

she's a she's she he's yeah I'm let me give her the

my name let me do you the last the last time the last the other

she's a man of a group that they're they're and then

they're the door Dana she she's try the

cell and he top with there there some

the time in the the cell was the the and there are

some archivos of photography and there are some the audio. Abre the photographs

and see that the cellular is taking to different points of the quarter dark,

no there's no light but there a sobri a black or cafecita that overshel

of the rest. Tomo us in count that the cameras of those

cellars not so they know that she knows that's she can be the

fourth but there's a sombre that over-sale and in some photos is oscura, more obscure than the rest of the quarter and in others like a coffee-cita. It was rare, but not even was like a lot of something of fear. And then,

revisa the audio, that's where it was where he was the playlist. And it says that in the moment in the moment in the end of the person talking, and not it's in a language that she knew it, but apart, it's the tone and the voice

was something instantaneously my body reactioned with that and that's no, no,

I don't even I can't say that I'm but I'm the cellular and I

threw and it and I when I'm when I get to repair

me they said we know we did this apparel but

so so so it's not not it not has

not the process years, this story and he had had been made to his inconsiente

and he didn't see a lot of that's but a minute he said, look at what

I'm found it. And then there's the conversation from Facebook where he says,

oh yeah, no manches what we found in your cellular. Pinches photographs

that were much a lot of much more and that audio, what on with those

voices? And if in that moment I agree and I did it I'm

I don't want to I don't I don't any idea of what it was very strange

I mean there's there are there no see more that we

know we can have that they don't that they're that

they are that they are that they're that you and that

those voices Ceres no see this I don't have been

so much so much that's kind of that's experiences and experiences and

almost almost with people like people know like like we're

like people that have been but yeah something other

other ser yeah we know like demoniac no

what the people like the people like really not I don't know, my

my brother, my mom, for example, a lot of they said, no, that's like the

demonia or figures like, what I know what's me came in the mind just,

is one that I was a voice, right that you said voices strange,

and that was in the school in my job, I'm was normal all,

I'm to go to the officeina and I heard a voice of like

like a man, but like very very grave and I know what he said.

That's the only that that's what you're with the voices and things like was the

thing. And in this time I think oh, and a more is a voice

of a little no so. And more because it's well,

I'm happened to happen things that were related with what

my family would would So I said, hey, a little is,

it's a maligno and I need to protect me or or something. But I know I'm

I'm not that voice, I said, I'm just I'm just I'm just that's strange like a

tone of a tonne and so like, it's a tamorizante no. I said,

well, a little I'm just maybe someone did some there, but there there was

many people there. I didn't nothing, I No, is that you have you to protect you

and you do you do you're in and you're really, that's all this is a kind of

like, or no, no, I don't know, that's interesting, but at a bit of

it's a very, well, tetrico, because if, this, ah, well,

I mean, I'm, I'm just to call me to come to be able to do a little,

this, vallying to to ask him to ask for the same, I would have to know I'm in the

house, I don't know, but she but she says that she be a sombra but that

not enter to the car, that's the that's that's that's that's

he's not but he does, I'm a dark but me does a lot more

I'm very so I'm so I'm so that so there so there there's there

we know we don't know we don't have no but we just we're like that's

like that's a stu-tetric no. In what you have experimented you, you can

see the things or you're in your mind? I'm they're and not

you know to the I'm so it's like, it's like, not it not

to hear it, it's like something, something, something that's immediately see form,

figure and all, but it's like it is like it being in front of me.

So, no, it's like it it It's, it's no.

But I know, but I'm something that's there. So, is in this moment,

like if you did you say, the vehicle of your father, you can

you can't where is the control to open the security in the front and

you know you're not you're not actually the photo, but you're

you're where you know, exactly. Is something? Is something? Is something? It's a

difference to this or is what You just said of the car? Uh-huh. The

imagine this type of situations in that you're in the same time, mentally, or is something this?

It's a same. But I'm but I'm different to a record. Yes. Of,

something that of a repented is a not, no, not is something that is something that

I have seen. I'm explained. Okay, but it different you do you

do you do you see that this you have seen this is the, that's the, that's the

point of difference? Yes, so, for example, the car is something, this, that I'm

every day, no, all the days and every time, so right that you're saying,

well, so it's what I'm so, the other, so it's that are that's,

and that they're so, and that they're in my mind, but not is a record. No,

it's a difference between the difference and that's, if not is because not the difference that's the difference

into that's not I've seen or he's or he's or it is that no,

I think if it appears something that's different. Mm-hmm. Okay.

And the the sensation like in the area of your is different? Yes. Ah,

okay, okay. In this you see, is a pressure that's like you're like you're

like something? Yeah, so, yeah, the other is like like out

from out of out of and of the and they're like, uh,

I mean, I see that's that's that's I'm in just I'm just trying to

to concentrate me and to understand what is what I'm what I'm I'm,

I'm perceiving and then then then it's complete or let go that

that's that I can't then I can't know is a record

and it is something that's something something something that's something

of a okay, okay. You desgasta? No, no, no,

no, it's that I would be so I'm so, for example, if it's something that

I'm going to say, well, what has to be with a person? Yes. That I

I don't to say, or how I'm going, what I do, that I'm that's,

but what is in the, let's in the moment of perception, no, no,

no, no, me So, it's so could say that the

ture you, what's going to get more in the mark of the clarisapiency. Or,

the say, the is, that's, you know, is clarivincy, the of the

very, you know, that's not you can't be percibi. No, it's more

like, know, to be a fact, but I'm, but no-se- -for-

-ke. Okay. The sensation of certainty is the that then you're to say a, uh, okay, no are not many not so in tenses.

Is that, it's a combination is a combination. It's a combination, yes. Fifgette that is something that I've

seen very consistent between the people that people that have this type of things, not have

not what they're not what they're seeing them. So, and they're in confusion because they're

they're that they're that can't impact on certain levels to the other person and not they have a form of comprobial it

but if you have a necessity to express it at the same time then it's like a situation that for that who knows if

necessarily is a don or a maldition in the sense of the repercussions that they're at a level of that a

level of that's at contrary so that that's that necessity to express something and

that you can't anticipate that the people not necessarily they can take a

well, you can generate some type of conflict or there's any of the people who

there's a not necessarily you know necessarily you know, and you put in this type of

difficulties, I'm, so I'm, yeah, you know, I'm, in my case,

I'm, I'm, it's like, I'm, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's an automatic,

ah, yeah, yeah, I'm, I mean, I, I was a way, of a

a bit of when, now I know I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

trying to to get it to say, no, to say, no, I'm going to but, this, but,

so, if it's and the people, if you say, more, then,

so I don't, this, need, use, so, like, to be a

way, or to start, no, so, so, that's, that's,

that's, that's, I, so, not much, I, I mean, I've

cared like to investigate more. I mean, I've got to be not, that I've

tried to to investigate but that I'm much to the time of, this, no see,

auras, esoterism, and all that type of things that you know is very very

creient in that so I prefer to do that other other also,

um, too, a little to know, and, and, but I like more

more than things and I'd more like to find, that would have no,

explications in where could know what is exactly but as there's a there's just in like,

who's got there something, this is there something. Okay. And it's pored and it was to turn the

light. Yes. Only that just that, but not that's going to do the situation amen.

I see. I'm also. I'm what I'm what? I think the situation

that's the situation that more difficult this is that is much mysticism malentendid of that

not is that certain words or certain forms of certain phenomena were not they're

created, or they're in a context specific, the not necessarily is there

is a present, after the after then after then since then, that's

that's then, yeah in the 80 there have been neuroscientifices, neurophysiologists, that have

intended to get to these phenomena but yeah from and have

obtained results quite interesting here in Mexico one that's

there probably there's but there there's a line of

scientific but not we don't we don't we don't

so formal also also understand that many the

phenomena paranormal are in circumstances so chaotic that

is impossible to to make a protocol of investigation per se because are things that only occur

in one and there's one of replicars. But what I think is that,

pardon, what I think is that in all the people who have a certain

a type of a type of a different, maybe if there would be

a form to try, manage or try to develop those don't, but in my opinion, they're going to be under protocols very well

established, because if not, you're using them as using those people are using those people are risked to something that you're not conscious of what is the risk. So I've seen various people that have had this type of vivances, and justly for the the lack of

information or the disinformation that there is a few times preferent to

blocker's and do because that's because it's a thing to a short and

a long-plac but that is for all the culture that there's

in turn to these them. Dan, one one one

the type that you is that this is this is what I know what I'm

I'm not I'm a so it was a sense of a certain but mixed

with I'm I'm I'm but I'm but really

no that so that I know I'm that I'm

that we we're talking before that's that not not me

don't fear I not not I'm not not,

no, no, I'm provoked certain reactions physiologics, of that, well, I mean,

I, I'm, I'm, I'm put the thing of things, but in the moment it's, and all the

thing, experimenter and it's been not been a lot of, I mean, the three cases that

I think, of the murder, or so, were more more, like, something,

well, was, that, I mean, I, said, I, really,

really, really, terrorifico, or something that was a little to get a fear, not.

If a case only me get to pass, in some places that you say,

when you know, that's not, that's you know, that's that's a kind of,

but more more than a feeling, to be a more, like, it's

incerate, like, desperation, like, that type of things, more than more to

give me me more, I know, and, I've I've learned a

control the fear to not to not feel it not for the obscurity or things that not

know, that not see, that there's not, really not always not. There's like, there's

something, there's a good or bad, I don't know I'm not, I don't know that's like

there's a more than we can we can we can't we can't we think

we think we all we I think that that faculty of to do it, only that some people, no,

a little bit, we know, we're not, not, no, no, they're so they're all we're,

we're going, to, the way, that's the more than what our things can perceive a

simple view. I don't see. You think, this, this type of perception or sensibility

have to have to be with the Cerebr? It's, yeah, I think so,

okay. Like, more Yeah, you know, is that has been to this situation of not know to differentiate

exactly that's the spirit, that's the consis, that's the soul, yeah, that's a dilemma. Of some

way, you think the those processes of neurons or the functions cerebrales that we have reflected there

this type of don't? I think that's I think like I'm like I'm just,

in a moment, in the way the question to get to to get to to get to to get to be

some moment the humanity the human does it is all the everything

we can't we can't we can't we're not in the past, we don't understand much

things that we're we're in what the physical how it how it's the world

so that for them and that and right we're we're we're not we're

we're we're we're we're we're we're so many many

people who they're we're we're not we're we're we're we're not

we have something so so that so that's it's easy to get a

work to get many times to do do you do you know, but I

know, but I know, maybe it's because our world in the we know,

for the matter, and all what we know, we can't get to other type

of things because, well, our our people and our things are

so I think it for that room all this. If an

80, 85% of the material real not we we're seeing we're quite we're quite limited

exactly, yeah. Dana, thanks for having been to have been to this episode.

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