HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP030: VÍCTIMAS DEL PODCAST / PARANORMAL

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

Hoy en Hablemos de lo que no esxiste te presentamos:EPISODIO 030: VÍCTIMAS DEL PODCAST / PARANORMALNuestro invitado el día de hoy es Juan Bautista AKA Jorge Bautista ingeniero amante de temas sobrenaturales y fan de HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE.En este episodio hablaremos de sucesos paranormales, apariciones fantasmales, entes , fenómeno ovni, Gary McKinnon, Hugo el cojo feliz, la Diablo Squad, Franco Escamilla, Paco Maya, Alk4pon3, TumTum, Hey Estee, San Juan Bosco, Papa San Cipriano, viren de Medjugorje, historias de terror cristianas, Nino Canun , Esteban Arce, Jorge Mausan y muchas historias mas.

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well, let's talk about what no exist in this episode we're gonna you put here I'm gonna say I'm sorry

Culpate. I'm sure they're in the real. In real with the Juan Bautista

was the Prime of Jesus right? Yes. Very good. Vautista. What's to have you?

The good is me, Esteban. Thanks for the invitation. Oh, I'm a excuse

because in your case, especially there was a retraso of four or five occasions

that we were to give us and for your patience and for this night.

No, thanks for the invitation not you don't you don't the

circumstances and the The fact is that I'm a fan of your podcast. So, what, so I'm going to participate in the... Ah, I'm doing. Much of you. Hey, me said, Jorge,

that you have, there's for there various stories to tell? Is it? That's, what you is? What do you?

So, I'm going to tell me one. For sure. Adelante. This story is of my family, and me

I've got to enterer of her after just days. My primro, Armando, has his his jita, his jita is his jesus

when Andrea had just a penas he was he was and he was and the

little the little he started to turn to the room and he he was

to talk with something like he was a little he

he was he was he he's out of the house he

and the little the And then he says, with who you're talking?

And he says, Tito Tata. Tito Tata. Tito Tata was his abuel, the dad, the father of

his wife, and they were many years of not in relation with him because there had been a

conflict familyar very strong and they had separated the families. So he has a

Tito Tata and he says with Tito Tata, she almost she almost she has

not convivio with him, well, it's a bit, Tito Tata. Where he agarra the and to seeka, the backer, he gets a call

Tito Tata, in that instant he was going to have to fallece in the hospital and he were talking to start

to do the question of violation. So, he gave a need because the little

he said, and he said Tito Tata. Tito Tata. And then he came the 20. Tito Tata

of some way, I've been to be to get to a newtessita.

Now, George, for so please, tell me your story. Ah,

yeah, that's a couple of years, I'm went, this,

I'm separated of my matrimonium and I went to a community that's

very near that's near the river is one of the colonies

new are they're not that are there that

are there I went there because I was there because I kept a renting I a quarter

that was there was there were two three quarters in that house and they were all all disponious

in renta but a good period we got to be just to be only in

in that place and the history that that that is that

was that was that in for no three occasions when it was a

colony was relatively new, the more not so and over those cases where I

had been like I didn't not, not she had been all the houses.

And I took on different occasions to hear laments, so on the

madruada, laments of women, what that a more probably maybe

is probably know like the like the yorona. Like, if

she was like a a little bit of the the streets. I wasomable to see there's a

there's a little bit of a little but really the way of I was still not was completely abitated.

It was of the last the fraccionation of the that were more more than the river

to say there. There was a there was a there was a other than the last the last

more isolated still even inside there in that and what was in

in this place is that is that in diverses also I felt that me despertable the voice

of a woman. I was related to the voice of my mom. Of those the other you're

and you find you get used and you get used and you know, and then

somebody that's like a mande, man, me desperate and reactionable and I

said, mande, I'm until that I came the 20 of that

was with anybody in the house. At the end of the case, I'm

I'm changed of that not for that's because for facilities and for

pandemic and so. But are things curious that were in that

that that that I was a little to be a

little out of the city that there there the

people of the water yeah Frida. Some a bit

a person someone more had been heard of the other than I'm in I'm not

I'm much with the people who I mean the way I think the I think basically

was my house and a more one that was a four places abitated

but like I basically basically nothing just I was not

I'm not I'm much many many I'm not I'm

not because really it was approximately about six months. One six months. One six months.

The voice that was that was a woman, with what sensation you'd do you have?

What emotion? Me, I'd a sensation like, like, like, like,

like, um, for the morning, like if were your start, like,

like, one of that you're getting to be a moment, I'm, I'm,

so, because it was yeah, for the the morning that I I heard clearly

the number. I'm at the hour and I see I've had passed a pair

of a lot of times quite interesting. It was like if it interested to you

start a problem that you're doing it. So, you know, you're doing a

tranquillity a little bit me never a time to think to think

in the sensation if I was a thing, so I sometimes I was

to analyze what I was to still in three dreams and in three dreams something

something I was a little bit of I was trying to do that that's that's that's

the thing because, I don't the laments that's not really not really not really

my my, my was like a a gritty a a vocal a

a oh okay yeah like yeah But I think, I've seen, for what I've seen in

some of the forums that are the things, is that there is that people that are a more

to do not to work, that's places like a rio to go to execute what they have to

do their and they and they are so and they do that kind of that's

okay yeah that seems that it's like the bandches Irlandes

yeah that is with the gritty of a vocal very

very very very very and they're in a way if you

get you know, if you have the bad to putt to let me

a little. And here there was a little was in the water

where the city where Pemex here is very near to

Montorray is Caderayita in Cadeita in in the entry

in the last a year there was a there had a a

and a man a man a little bit a bit of a barracher she was to come in the madrugated

because he was a barrache but even was still incapacitated and then when I'm at the way to

a woman totally dressedida with a black with the hair dark and the vestiment

black was like a bat and then then so then he's to hear that you just said

to make to get a but he's he doesn't that's a certain point it was a bracupon

so it's not he's not he was to make a problem is that the form in the form in the way in the area in the

this woman was a one was a one way and the movement of she was soabing

like if was floating very lineal very lineal exactly and a and a velocity that

not correspond to and he he said although he he was he didn't no be

no movement in the the Exactly to him without No, he's a

way of the and he's going to see a back he's not he's not. He's going to

the mind of the mind that he's he's a quote he's he's a not a sportist

he says I'm a man he's he's a man who the house and he still the

family he went to the lament of that entity not he's to the car in

some point he's but But, yes, I'm in many of

the cases it's about the rios and they call the yorona, because there's this legend

of the woman who put to his children in the river and this, for that

for that a problem that's a problemat mental. Talves me I'm quite

can be a question of the workes and in some kind of a

manifestation of a spirit because this legend not just in this place.

So, I'm that family nocturn, those who are out of Mexico, have their own own their own their own

their own. Jorge, there's this story, that has to be just about these departments or these vivientas of the

that we're just we're just we're just going to get us. I know that you're in the world of the stand-do.

So, so I've prepared various anecdotes of people who are in this world. You know

the, he was part of the Diablo Squad. Connoces a Paquito Maya? Yeah, for

Sure. Paquito Maya He said that he He took a anecdote very important when he

came to live to Monterey he he's he's to be able a

department and in the first days that he's totally only one

one day that he he is a the time is just the

half of the room in the not in the he has in the

he had He was he was Peartreys, and now he was a 40 centimeters of all the extremes,

just to the center of the room. He was he put him much importance. Passed two or three days

and he a companyer visit him and he'll get a he's been and he's he's just a

way, what he's what? What can be so? How can't be so how can't be

he? And then so he says that way? He said, boy, well, no, so it's rare that's that's out of your house?

Dehast you the doors abertas. How's the door? The way, I'm the door in the

night is something that I go like a part in par and par the patio and the endra.

So, he's very rare and so, we'll be to say that me've been to be able to have to be

all right. No, they're not not. No, no, no, no,

no, to do you go, I, see, the door the and says,

perfectly well, and And so, he's going to do this he said, no, I mean,

I'm going to get to be here. So, of a repent, there's in those who who can know what you

know what's that you know their story of the story of the know this streamer, well, more well,

no, no, I know you want to be a streamer because it's a year, so it's a

new new and the day of today of today is to know, do you have heard? I've heard

with the Diablo squad, no, uh, or, Within the group of Alcapone. Yes. Very well.

Tum-Tum he occurred to something very of this indole. He came to live with a company with a guy with

and they're living in those departments. No, no, he's exactly in where. When they're living in these

departments, the departments have a peculiarity. So, three departments, but for to enter to the area

in where they're the three Puerthas, the people who are digital. The people

that are solteros and no there no families complete there and one day he's a

tum-tum with much fear and he says to the gorilla a friender there's a there's a

a new in the other and the other one there's a man in the there was an

there was an there no there no there they had there they're

not a he gets a no a one the girlila

and he's noc-tum He said, oh, boy, you're going to, you're going to, you're going to be, why? Dejasted the perils of the gas-abird of the stufa? No, I don't cuisine the day of today, no, I didn't even me to get the stupe. Oh, yeah, they're starting to start the end up.

SIGEN PASSIONE-SEN-SEN-UKING. And one day, yeah, there's a lot of year-in-cawomen. They're in a quarter talking. If you're going, and at regressar, there's a cell up above of the and they say, no, boy, yeah, yeah, this, who knows what is to be a-oh, but yeah, but you know so they're so much

they're going to a voyage and regressando all the department is all the department is there

not the department they're they're like the that's what they're that's

they're there's just there a lot of moscas just they're untyty

they're they're they're they're they're there because they're

those moscas and then there's there a tweet. A quat in a stream

that for this in the stream had occurred that they're the other and they're the other and then then it's

that's all you have been having been and they're apparently soles. The tweet gets and a

child and a manned a message. Oh, I've I've seen where they live.

I'm I'm living in those departments. Cudaddle. I'm I'm from because

it's a appears a a little bit of let me come on some of the people, there's say to get a

message, chas, no, no, there's a other thing. And they're the departments.

It's a interesting. That's interesting, right? You, you have heard of the

people, you've seen, yeah, for supposed, and I, I don't know, in that

they said, that there's that there were things manifestandos more than to know

to Fisgette that there's a I'm going to tell you to go to tell you but Papa Bozo

Fabian told him he he he gave an orientation many years with a exorcist

and the sacerote exorcista he said no exist in the no the

no years Minamart that is a a a chick that's

a child that's that he knows like metaphysical of and energy

and she doesn't no exist and And so, I was I was listening this program of Semesu

the Muptu of this Kiroz. I don't remember the Alex. Alex Kiroz, exactly.

And they're there's a companyero, and he also said, the children phantasmas no exist.

So, that normally are entities oscuras, a sometimes demonios, that they are going to

make up the doors to confundits and one once you to start destrosos. And right

that you're you comment about you I think you comment you know that the story of the

story of Paquito Maya well I don't if it was the they're

having a program that they were in stories of terror but

like they when were awascalient it was interesting what did it

was in the Northia in the Noria yeah in the hotel

because they're they're they're they're there I think that

Christian Mesa with Ponchod Danda in that yeah

and that they were they Xbox and that they started to move the things until

the same telephone of one he marked to the other then exactly. Yes, yeah.

If you see that that's an anecdote, Franco, did a important in that anecdote,

the point of that's the point of that's because he's made a is because the telephone

that I'm to make to they're like three meters. So they not they didn't

in the box. It's was so I know. And I took

the videos that public that experience because they were to be able to the

murto and a macario for that for the and what was a lot of is that in all the

video when they were in the whole all they were clear but when they were doing

to film a Paco Maya it was and it was and you know

and Poncho of Anna mention something something said

he could be could be there problem the sensor of when

we put us another person in that And we'll to put a Paco

and it's And so I'm going to Do you know, So I think I'm sure that I'm sure That's the In this place

In other They didn't accept it Except a chavo A mecero They said Yes, they They said Like some

No, No, no, No, no, no, He's because they

They're yeah Yeah, so But, but fickate that people of

The Aene Noria has written the program Here, here, we know of what

no He has told that Yes, yeah. That in that hotel pass in many things and

there are many stories. So, if there people of in the Awas Calientes that has done to the

Noria or that knows stories, for favor, can't send them to send them to WhatsApp. For favor,

what other story you have my brother? Yeah, fiftate. I'm working in a company

that soldian to the city of Mexico, but for questions to, let us

were more rentable in in the place to to send a a car to a hotel, they'd

rentable in a apartment in the colony of the valley. In the department I mean, I'd

know, I'd know, I'd think it's more of 30 years, so, for in

how it was the decoration, how it was the elevator, that usually that usually was

that's discompone it. It was it was it was like to in the

years 80, I think, in this type of department. And me took to start

on those occasions, usually there were various, various people, various engineers assigned us. So, every one had a

housepidation. And, and, and, now that, so, a good rata, what was,

the implementation of some project that we had to be there in the city, so we had been

a week, or two months. I took to be alone in different occasions. And when

I was only, pass what what went to what went different

things there there was a television there on the

biggitas I think still like like like and

and the rependia and it was so it was like a ten years

15 years okay so so so so so it was

it was there no no there was no there

no not were in specific or of a sudden I'd say I'd remember that he had had been

and I'm was used and I'm and it was a time in different occasions

was what is the phenomenon of that that's the the so I

remember that I've been in my abitation dormied and to get

like in a kind of a cycle but I'm subed

the and not only it was the sensation of that you could be able to be not you

I'm a feeling that something that something like a like plastando so I'm so I'm

doing I'm doing it's a start to put put me in a moment I said

ah I got I got to be in conscience but I was I'm

down I'm back to go to the point of the

point of I mean it was like a what was in a in a

other in a preadier of that's, that you would have been you're in and you're and I'm

in the and I'm and I'm and I'm know about about a six occasions.

So, in the same I'm I'm I'm so I did you

and I'm the sensation of the pressure in the zone of your body?

It was was that was over the back of the spald up. In the

the back? The spalalda. And how did you know after this cycle

of of a lucid in the you get a in the you

know, this was, I feel really me made a fear, yeah, I felt a

fear, I'm I'm a feeling a because in other occasion that I

did this thing I was very recurrentently there not in other

other places when I was in my house when I simply

there I think that I think that I had to two

three times that that the sense of that And I remember one occasion that the only that, that,

that not was cyclical, that if I could have been able to, now, so, we know, let's say that the first, but I remember that, that's the, that I oprimedian, I felt like a grunied very strong, like in, like, like, like, so. That sensation, me, I mean, I gave, I mean, me, yeah, really what I did see, was to go to, I'm to, look at the cell,

after of, to, that type of events of, the, the,

the, the, the, the, I think no more me was in,

in a apartment there, only in a little, in a few, in a

lot, when you didn't, the temperature was the same, the sensation, was the

sensation, was, the same, so, so, so, so, so,

this, I, I'm, I'm a little of a kind of, but it was

a little place, it's so the place, it's not the not,

or it's a specific about, or it's a bit of, so it's the thing, what was specific, was the

the, what's the thing, the world, the because I know, I'm going

to be occurred in other. Okay. And, uh, and, I was,

I was, I was, if I was if it was there was there was a opportunity

in those that had option. And even, even, even, even, even, Although, after the people, then you

do a flojera to move to the other place. And it's when me was when I was going to be there in this

type of events, for so so say to say it. Sandra me told that she during many

years, she was living the situation that the paralysis of the son of the st. The death

was the time. At the beginning, he occurred a more than after the after the

first he started to generalize but But she did know that

only he occurred when he was when he was going to get a

generalize and he was a back about the other back above in the

other side after after more because nothing more he

was she no he there was a point in

that for she was a one and me you

you know the problem not is that not

I can move the problem is that every

I see seeing more things, more nitid, first it was like the

sense of that there was a there. Then I saw that something then I

that was that was that I was there was more things. At day

of today, there are things that there are there

and they are and they are when I came and me about

this we to be to be to be the stress, to be a problem

to be a kind of a problem of a problem. And it's a lot of and it

wasn't, absolutely nothing. But one day, it was with a person that he

said, to you to be beingculating and you're and you are doing

very. I don't remember exactly that he did, but he did a

object and he said, and he said, it will do during

the the next six months. Sandra no he passed absolutely nothing. He could

do not. He was in that's a situation. But in the month, day one, it's

all right. And then she me contact and me says, you know, I think to let them get

the and I asked for why. And me I'm a photo and I

had the little rugs and it's said, and now it's more and

now it is more more aggressive. So, there stories that's

the paralysis of the that's that's that's that's that's that's

that's I'm in this I'm that's about I'm in this case I'm in particular, I'm doing that's I'm in the

thing, and that after they're they're into other they're not, the things that they're they're

doing it. Like, so, I mean, like, at some things are the things

are there where you can know that that's occurring and it's not so that's an explainable.

Especially if you're a person observator. Yeah. My Malcapone, this streamer, that is very

famous in Monterrey, because he has been years doing what he says good. He's goody

he mentioned that occurred various things to start to start to stream in that

about about stories of terror. First, I don't see if he did a new of a little of

a little bit of a little bit. Then he was going to be somebras in various parts of the apartments where

see a grabations. Of fact, I think there's a picture that's a camera in a but what he

did more more fear and what he did question to be that was that one day he was going to go to the

house and there's a other than when he goes to the house when he's a mess, water. And he says, and this,

who's who put it here? And that's the other, and the other that I've seen, that'ser. That's what, who's, who, who did he? So, who, who threw? Yeah, because you can't find an, in sombras, in ruidos, maybe.

Even's in movements, but that if you see, is a movement levy of some thing. I mean, me could distractor but something like a specific like a box and to fill it to water, like, it makes, it makes,

like, it's, it's, it's, like in the Tum-Tum, Imagine to say to go to your room to go to get a

a seat and that's the not a question, no it's not really that's it's not but you're going to but you're

that you're and that's being that's is intelligent and can interact to act with the place only you

you know it's it's like it's like that's a movie of the movie of the 90 yeah

yeah it's it's a quite interesting and there you can you can't you can't you can't

I'm going to you know, because you can't see that the side of the side of the right, to the other

I'm going to I'm going to remember. But something about a same specific as a camera, I think it's

something that you know there's a there she says that during her infancy and part of

his recency is a call Stivalee Benue or Vanue the people correct me

always that I mention or I'm I'm equivocal with the name is part of my

don't. I go, I'd be to be a to be a victim of them to but a

Isty, that is the number of the channel, she said to be to get to because

every case that they were in the other the things but one of the things more

that was that was that they started to hear in the part of the back

to be there's, no, no's no so, no's no so, they're not

echoes that they said, So, so it They're To listen Ruids

And at To get to All the part of the area of the cell is Rinkonada in a

corner in a Cillas, Pino, all. That is the thing more terrible

that you can't imagine there, you know, you're that's expensive, that you

don't they're so much how they did how they so it's, what is what are

what forces have? It's something Yeah, if I can understand the the fear that is a

like the vulnerability, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is vulnerable. What more

yours? What more you have there? Fiatte, this, right you I talked about,

I go to the yorona, me gave the impression of that I had a woman and

the relationship with my mom. My mom fellacy in the year 2013 and I

I, it took to start in the moment in the that she went.

This, I go, I'm going to see, I'm going to the retrospective, I was, I'm going to

see that the maybe that's going to because she had to have hallucinations of family that were

not were living, yeah. I was that they they were and they had to

that, and, well, one, at the more, I'm trying to negate this,

the more is, well, is the medicine is the atmosphere of to be in the hospital. Me,

I came to comment my, my mother had, in a principle, had an stampes of some santo.

But I did count that in the last few days they they had taken to the place where

they were, and I asked a a family and me commented that my mom had

had said that they had been to be of those people like in a like in

the like they were in in a incendium and like they were molestating so it

was a molest of the hallucinations that had also had other hallucinations that not

to be with this of family because at sometimes me said there there a

cucarach very very for favor matter or or be at the

pharmacy for these medicines and I to divagher a little yeah

of the reality. This total, me to see that falle

and really in that I was married and the relationship that

had a my wife my mom not was

the and that my wife to like I

made I feel I I actually when I

got the news to the house and before

when we're preparing to go to go to my mom,

this, me he said, my then his was to do

a work for his and so and the things

that I said, like, we we said, we didn't we

had been that we had been that she was in a place

in a way, and that that of a certain that , um,

to to liberarn us of culpals, no? And what I can say is

that I'm trying that she had learned an vealadoer. The

fire when he did you did that kind of was different.

It was like a current of an current of the other

the other the other the person was it

was immobile . normal. only when when she did, she was a

he said a kind of a kind of a boybe like a and it was a thing,

and it was something we were to say, that she was she was going to a place in a

little and that all the saturors that could have had been in this

world, we want we want we're we're thinking that were

Thank you. Thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But what, what story? Fidgette what you

did you know, so what you did a communication, me, I've brought a mind a story

that I don't, I don't I remember that he had had been, there was a time,

a time, a year that was many times of missions. I mean me,

I'm I liked much and I met him a group of missions Catholic

but there there was a a mission especially that you have you have been

to try to my records we're we're we're we've

made a question and me had put to a friend for

that he took to the guitar and and I going

to start to make a little and I

It was something very because, before before we did do this we did do we're in an atmosphere

that's the atmosphere was very special very distinct to the other not for something that we're just

simply it was in the procession a sensation strange like to be abrigated

acobigated when we're when we we're something So, it's a type of torment in where we're, they're going to sound as truenes.

If there's the jubia, we have a techo of lamina, the techo of lamina, it begins to generate a noise insurdeceder. At the side of where we're, more well, in the perimeter,

the place in the place we're in the school. All the perimeter of the part of the top of the techo, had ventanitas. And then, at the side of the school, there were a arbor of rams very large,

and various of the rams pegs under the windows. It was a ruidazzo That no You'd love you Notas You need to the People were

To listen When we used When we used to We said He said He starts to The guitar I said to

I say certain Things It's a Tormenda And then I'm I'm with my I'm

And I'm They're They're They're So I'm So I'm Like like For the

People I'm going to say for the I'm saying for the I'm going to but I think I'm going to I'm going to give one of the

whirons to like those like saying no, no, no, we're saying, and he says,

does something in your hands? What? No, I know. And so there something something.

Of a repent I'm going to hear the guitar normal like if no more noise.

I'm going the reflection and I know that the muchachos those who were sitting

taking the reflection are all with the hands as sign of duration and

they're in the eyes but they're all are in trance So, no

they're breathing, they're six, seven people in a vision very extrana,

I'm a little to the window and I see the ram that it but

not the sound you is getting the water the windows signo of the

signo of that not they're not in any one of the gotas. It's

be at the low the light where there there's there's

there And, I'm trying is like if us would have put into a burbuck in the

only are you hear of the sound in the room. I'll go, I'm going to my friend and

I'm going a signo like, what's what I'm put the hands in sign of interrogation

and he makes the same sign and me he says, what more? I'm, I'm,

I'm going, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm, sound, the sound the blows in

the techo, so it the the of the ram on the

and the kids almost the same time they're they're they're in the

eyes and they're they're they're what they're one of the

one of the so one of the probably a trance to be a sort of in a

type of burbuck that they did it in where we're in

the moment that you say it and fickate but very

very because I not even concentrated I was in what I was saying I don't know I know I know what I'm

in a trance in the in the way that was the and the other chico was perfectly conscious.

So it's like living the moment but that it's it's very, very rare

I think our our comprehension kept very much under of this type of

events so I think there was there was a for all for all

for us for me the the fact of the fact of the thing is the thing is the

other man who did a little bit you know, I'm going to you know what I'm I'm saying, I prefer the guitar.

The guitar? I'm saying, I don't want to talk about the thing. No, no, I don't want to talk about

what happened. No, never he had lived and so we've been to do. Like he he was like

something very sacred that that about it was like to make it and the group that was in

oration nobody remember nothing. Absolutely nothing. Nothing. So,

for them was a lag where we did we blackout, pardon me, where it was done,

and all the time, nobody remember to have had been had been a lot of that was an

event. Yeah. That's a good. That's what I'm there's a lot of things.

So, at the most they're not so much not so And, this, and, is that the part spiritual, I think has been important.

Of course, some of the stories that I wanted to have to be with, with the idea,

this, this, me was a person, what the is that I grew up in a

house Catholic, and we were close of a parroquia, so I had much amstas that we

used and we'd do we constantly We're in the groups that were in the groups that were canches there were salons

for groups of adolescents and then we had been those friends were friends of the sacerdotes that were there and then

sometimes the sacerdotes they went to a sort of a seminar and not they'd like to

leave their house so so then they'd invite them to two three chavos

saying you know we're not we're not to be in this, no see, this end of the same, we're going to do, or no, I think it's going to do because they'd have to be there, but during

these days, no we're going to be present. We're going to, and we're taking a while to the house if they want to get to do that, and then get to go ahead. And I had a part of friends that

were the house of the sacerdotes, this, well, yeah, too, too, had also many years there. And I think there was a, I mean, there was a good friend that was very known in the,

in the church, I mean, in the years 70s, that lived, that served for that community, that's called the Father Mauro.

So, they said, these chavos, that when they went and they were in the part of the house of the

sardoters, there were offices, and there was a officeina, that was where was where, the father

Maura, where he passed more time. This, we think he lived much in the

community, was very, I was very, I was very little I think when he was he

was a father very very good, he did many mises and it's very recorded

in the community, that was in the church of the Linda Vista.

But me said in the offices that were up there were

there had people, there had people there had people there was

like a of a machine or that was that was in the

book, and it's actually in the madrugat that they were in the time,

they were in the question, they were in that way, it's in the office in the father Mauro.

So when they were, they were to go to investigate what was what was,

they went to up the stairs but to make the all to be

in calm in order, in order, in silence, So, he said,

but if they were, we said, and then we'd back us, and other once had to start,

like there movement of the work there in that officeine. So, like,

they're they're saying that the father Maurus was still manifestando of this

place, that I think was a place where he was a much, much time.

Wow. Wow. Wow. Me, I'm tragista the I'm going this story is an

insolita not is a not it's not a story of the story of that's a story

very obscure he was a he was a I think he he said he went to he went to he went to

a office that was very barata super barata and then I don't know I was

he was he had to he the he had two chics working for him and

she had to They'd get them, I'd say the afternoon in these offices and

one day he said a one I'm not I'm don't want to get so far as

things that you're saying things they're they're they're they're and then

it's it's like it so it so it says he you're you're

you're you're you're you're you putte to talk we're

we're we're the he said, no there was option, so he said what they said, what they said,

no, no, no, no freges. So, keep at the and you're doing, and then they mark. And the chick

is a grittable is out of and he says, come yeah, come, yeah, it's going to call the

policeia, and he's what he says, he says, if there says, if there's there,

we're in there's we're in a officein and we don't know they're they're

We were working the two when of when they were to move the the cell in the cell in

we're in the time we're in a little bit more and it was going to be able to enter computer and declados and we're

and we're we're in we're in our own we're not we know we know we're we're just

I'm a hour of and say they're gonna try to get to get me to the policeia

finally of the grits a listen he doesn't hear of someone out of the officeinies

and when he's going to he's not he's he's got to get to get the day of the next

he's very affected by the news and he and says that's clear that you're going to get to

get to after that but he's going to do you know what he's so that

then then then he checa with the other offices that are in the other

and they say ohy you know happened something very rare a year and just he

asked to ask you like at the 6, 7 and say because they they're for they're

for the time to work and say he's that's quite because they see a so they're

so they're because no me have said you don't you've done that they're very baratas

so it's so it's for so then he says that he says he says he's he's

he's made but that all there were various offices all knew that that's

that's so that so that that's that they need to change those times in the

person so in the case of the father mauro I think it was a person who's

not they're because of that's yeah I think yeah I think that now

that you know that's that the question I think in some podcast of the

legendas badia comment that that in the United is

that's regulated that you you're to run a

place you you specify that type of things. And if no

you do do cause of recision of a cause of a decision

no? He's he's how I would be that the regularization stood in

Mexico? Because officially you're saying you have that there cases

with entities paranormal so like to go to investigate like

to do to do do do other other other

there there something something something. Yeah. Or for the least, to know, we're saying,

you know, we're going to things that we're that we can't, that we can't, that's that we can't, that's

the question of assassinations, or the past of the house, that has done or a some of an

mancha, a little dark, casas embruchas, et cetera. But, but to be in

Mexico, no, no, there's a for a for a For nothing. Of course, I'm going to

I'm going to tell the Frank Skamilla. Before that he was famous, he has two stories that are very strong.

If you're not, he has been in what? He has two stories that one, just a

just in, like 20 years. He was a part of some groups of the church Catholic also.

He was he he was to talk a guitar and he and he he was he was

he was he was he was when he he took to start in the first

night and and they're and they say and they're to die and I'm sorry to go to

get to get to be to get to the bayon and when he when he's when he gets to he top a

big hit that's that's and he's and he's he's like very borrousas the

hands that but no he does give you know it and he he gets to he gets a

and what he's like he did he's like he said he he was he was like so why he's

he's been so it no I'm he he said he says he And they're, total, they're there

They say, No, well, much thanks, yeah, me go. Cuyate much. Bye, bye, so, Franco,

I'm trying to the idea that like, there was a way, I'm not the top one of the albañel.

Sige going to the day, he gets there the night, and one of his companyers, in front of

the velator, he said, no, man, me, I've got to to put one to put one of

one of the albaal and the and the ran, in what I'm in what? How are

the albaon? no, well, a bigito that's he's about the manned to and then

the bellator and said, ah, you've seen, oh, you know, how you're like the

phantasm? Yes, yeah, since many years, that's that's he left to

a lot of many people, but is someone that's a person who's so much time.

So, Frank, he's he said, he's, he's, he's, I'm very skeptical of

that, no, no, I don't know, and then the he said, they've

they've they were borrosas. And then the two let's say the 20 and they say, and the mother, if it's true. That is the first

story that not quite. The final, like a entity that, of a certain way, a certain way, a certain

something that's a little bit that's a other story is the that is the very strong. Just when

he was doing a career, that yeah was like a comedian and he was arm it well,

he was a woman with her spouse, with his children, to a a house, I don't

exactly where and in the house, her his wife he's a little

he's a little bit of so the wife's a friend an friend imaginary no pass

nothing. But they're going to do you know that the little a little

a little a little and then the you know, because you're a man because you know what's

that's that me says that I'm a friend Imaginario, me I don't I don't let

say things to say things and then the mama he made a lot of that's a little

an idea very extravagant for a little bit. And he he says, and what what's the

other I'm saying, because it's because he's, because it's because it's all the

I'm so, to know, to know, to do it and he's only is, only is, only is there

in this court, and never say, he says that you can't say,

clausuramus the quarter, never to enter to to that the

fourth, no we're we're in that we're to get to and we're to get to

the same because it's the sufficient reason. She had the she's in the she didn't contact with

any one that you know, that's what that's that probably there's there's a

thing. Yeah, no, what interesting. It's really, how they're how they

can't how they're what you what I'm to talk has to have to also

his friends that I took in the group of the church. I have a good, he's

a man, he's he's he's he's like the people, the group of

the church, in a moment that he gave a book about

about about the life of Don Bosco and and he said

to him he was like to read it just he to get

his way after after after after the of the

fact but I said that when it was a little I felt that they were to see

a person to I'm sure that I'm my car was a carma was there was there was

that there was a there was there was I was around or doing while

in circle while I saw I was this, I was I was the book and

that was that you mark a of details that could be a little

like a little kind of kind of about those for example me

I'm said that in an episode Don Bosco like he

had a man a family and they they they

between them between they if if someone get

to fall and the other he would be

to he he he then then they in the

book that fall the friend of Don Bosco and that Don Bosco has a a dream where he starts like a carrosa, a carousa, a carousa that's a proxia, that's a proxia.

And then, he gets, the repute the room, and then, of a sudden, be that they're going to be his friend, that he said, I, Don Bosco, I'm. And then, that in those, Don Bosco is a dream. But he didn't know like a message

that he had given the he had done he's a one of the time he

he says he's in the place of San Pedro and in Rome in the Vatican but that

he's very high and that he's a person like that was barriending

the and that he's he starts to try to get to get

to that the person perce that no he doesn't that he not

he not he doesn't listen. And that moment, that episode is a relevant because after that they do do they're saying santo, I think they put a statue of him

in the place of San Pedro. So, the people think, or theorize that what he was like a vision of the future a through what is his statue. That through of there, was having what

was happening, what was happening in the Plaza of in the place of San Pedro, the person a grand that the sonya was the statue in his statue

yeah is the theory that they that they are they're that they're that's really the story

of this saint that was a if I don't remember I don't know I was to he was

that he was that actually was a hecherer if you if you know that's

that story I'm so I'm he was a hecissero of, I don't I remember

of what religion San people who people who the name of this saint

I know he's that he they're the grimori more of the grouheria

is of he is a saint but the history of his is a story of him

he he he said he went to the art to the

old with, let us people and things very very powerful. And he

he's to do his his book, his grimorio. And a day

he inamor a person and then the entity oscura that was

that was a very very not not not not

not not is not not so I'm and I

try the and he he says why not it

doesn't what the order and he he said because that that's

that's that we're not we're not so so he he's so he's so he's

well then so I want to know what is that is that he's he can't

remember he's he's he can't he's he can be he but also

that part of the dark is that the dimorio more more of he is of

what he he's in that the time So it's like... Prevue to his papado.

Prevue to his papado. Before of that, before that's erratents to know the Christianism. No, I don't know. I've heard of that

story, just as much and it seems, I mean, so, for what I'm that it's really,

so it's so it's, it's true. San... No, and for what? No, no,

no, the list of papas that is interminable also. Yeah. Also, also,

well, I'm, I'm chutand some episodes, also that about the list of papas

and the truth is that not all those were not so much there's there's a really bad

very malvats no. Yeah. This is this Papa that he that he

had had problems just about with the father and then he said he said

he said to do to question to be to murder to go to murder to

to turn to to get to some ridiculous to but for

part of part of part of what what more

Jorge. Fiatte, this this my same I'm a little bit

so he's he has had some he has done to talk

this he he went he went in the Linda Vista

and he said in various occasions he he said he he said

he he was he was he was he was his group of his

house and so It was like We'd We'd We'd Because many

times It's in hours That were They're Like, they're like And when

he's assombed And then he said That's He said And so He's

He was He's He's He's That type of Yeah Actually

Beto has a He's He's He said The When When the

When the He was When I He went To I I'm

three four years I He was in that house where he was the house of his abuelos. And he said that the little that no wanted to

go to the patio that because there was a perro. Because there was a perro, but they had no had been a mascot. They had been a mascot that had been a lot of years. And then, that Beto he was, you know,

to say, where is the dog? He said, yes, this is to he, he says, no, here, he's not, here, he's, no, here, no, here, no, not is. And, you know,

we've got, we've got, where the girl, that was where he lived with them, many years. And he said, he, he, is there, papa, look, is there. And, and he says, and, and, he's the pig. And he says, yeah, Papa, is Negro. He says,

yeah, he's a, yeah, he said, no, don't you know, don't you know, a dog, a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a, no, so, or no, so, yeah, but he had a few years that he was, and, um, and, um, and the, and the

, and the, and the, and the, well, he was to perceive the presence of that mascot. That was a mascot that

was a and it was a mascot, the mascot, the mascot durer have long as it's, and it

said, yeah, so it has been a 10 years, maybe. Some 10 years.

So, so it was a one of a house. Yeah, wow. Fidate

that I had talked stories of mascottes of animals, if someone has got some,

comment it, but what interesting, that's interesting, that's that the presence the

the energy of this mascotita, no. And what what he gave to talk to is that

his son there was a day he said, oh yeah, oh yeah papa, or they're

thinking I have a mom Rodriguez, so he said, how you have you

a mom Rodriguez? Yes, I have a moma Rodriguez and I

had much brothers. He said had many many, many and we live

in a house very very great. And then what, what happened?

It's, it's that there a incident, and then there's a lot of

a hospital. So it was like that the man was manifesting some a life,

or a life past. But he said that that's also to a

time to a time where there was a social in that recorcees in that

he never to come to come but when I was between three

and five years, in diverses occasions he gave to say that had a mother, he said,

he said he said he and that he had many his brothers in a house very great.

Never gave more details? Never did more details and that also my friend

he did do that much, but a me it's made very interesting what is

the possibility of the lives pastas that this that this display. Yes,

yes, yes, yes, of In fact, there have been various people who comment on that

and just it's a year that it's when they're these years, and at the seven, the great majority,

there's a morrado for complete, as if yeah, they're in the life actual and the

earlier and it's not there. There are many many people, there's in the

year of the seven, continue the record, and and then intensificate and in

a certain manner it's a certain problems because they know,

you know, in what of these lives is in the that really they're really to be in the right,

but what interesting, Vides past has been a new thing to do the reencornation from the

podcast. Yes, and from the religion, well, I know, it's a way of the life

unica, but in this stories that I've seen in a book that I'm doing to come

to come back because I me you know much the attention in this book, some stories

that are the that's the question that I'm the about the life pastas. Sure, the book

is like a psychologist that is like some that's putting in some of hypnosis gave to persons

to regressions to this, uh, for, for solusional some

in their and he says that it's interesting that, for example in

some, there people there there's in the the body, not? I mean,

a other is a case in the part of the body, quite specific. That's the are the

marcas rojas. Yeah. And that when he was a question, he was

a reason, the cause of his murder, had to be with a issue in the area where

was a specific about, where was the place, that was the lunar in specific. Yes,

yeah. Yeah, there's the story of a little to actually, April

Sandoval, that is a a chick that has only a 17 years and I don't

remember. And she has two years, he's to discover certain dones in those

that can be able to be a medium, contact with the spirit and she mentioned that

she took a contact and he had a regression and he saw her she has

had the part of her red and just the regressions saw she

she was she she may she can be with the death that you've had

in a life an earlier. In a year. But what what I say is that

is that I'm some of the attention and it's a part of stories. Adelante. It's

he said he said he he was like he had a patient, a patient that he

he did a therapy of hypnosis to get to a regression and he did you know that in

a life past he took a disjunitive and in a regression he said, he had to elective like to

get to with a woman or go to the war and, and, well, probably I think

to lose, well, then, then that in that moment of the regression, he took the

decision to go to go to his country and that he's, and that's there's,

he was the life of this that was like a general, a tenant. And that was a

regression. He said that after she went and she did she was working with this

same person doing and that he was that life but

that in that disjunctiva in a regression took another decision

and she went with the wife she he he was the he did

form a family and like there he took no so many she took

no she she like a person plenamently realized. And then what I'm

to make the attention is how you can take two two can't of a

same life. And so it's where I see those theories that that

a that's in the world in the time. Universes parallel

of so that you go farh that there are that there moments where you

can take a decision and you And this person me called much

the attention that that would have to be a same but in a certain

moment of that that would take a decision different and that

that that that that regression in the first decision has

had to have done to sanar a certain part of

the of the part and the second part to the

more to complement that that that is what is

what people to to want to consult what what's in the pastes, no?

Justly, there's there's a podcast very, very known that's called Caso 63. In Casso

63, do you get to hear you don't have not been in a

question. It's a science fiction, is a fiction, it about a little

a little, a time, but they're that's, but they're that just

the way in the time is by the way of the regressions of this

type not it not it's a thing that you get to you

and that's to give the and that the opportunity to change the

story. In this of in this in a theory

that's called like a little so I don't remember

the name. The people I'm talking that I heard

put there the name of the theory is a for form this fiction,

but the theory is real. And there are some people that can't that can be the form of general or the world's or the way of the time.

It's a little related to what you mention as in this change of decisions in a life. I think there can be two

forms of it. So, from a optic psychology, you're you're just permitting

to reconfigurars yeah, no, without having any effect in the world external, more than

in your world internal. But from other perspective, another cosmology, other form of the universe,

it could be that if you're changing in the reality complete for that type of regressions in case of

that is going in the world. See, that this book, I was I'm looking,

because I remember a concept that I mean, I think that the book was that was that

was that was that kind of the type of concept of how regressando took

two different the way and there other concept that I saw

that I sawed that I got to be the world about the thing we we're

the theory of the physical that says that time present, past,

and future all is converging in the moment and that simply is the

perception of the people that's that they give that that's

that that's that that's so then they're then you could

you could have had lives past but what not necessarily

it means that you're you're and you have been and you

know, but in this same moment you could have another life.

In this same lapse of time that you're that you're

you're being your life as but there there there

there other person living at the maybe, some

years, this posterior, if you you get to have a therapy of a good,

you get a little, it's not that the soul is like the water, so it's

divided in gots, and the two got to like, as we're

part of a whole. So, of a total. So, you

can't that in this moment, you can be being various,

various videos right just is, you you're you're with your

body, but that you're going to you're different experiences in other

other other ways. And that's my really, because I remember a little,

a book of metaphysica of Connie Mendes. She of was

enlistar saying that a master had reencarned in that person in that

person, in a person, and I started to say, the years in

the years and he said, and they're they're, but they're I don't

support this theory because those two people vivied in the same time. So I don't think that

I'm reencarned in the two. So for me this is a disparate and I'm going to have to have a

and the master no, I remember the name that he did a reincarnat in that person and that

person and that person like that kind of kind of kind of kind of but when

she says they say they're in the is that is that they're there

and I don't talk to you talk to the concept, you is that?

It's it It could be possible. And that's a Manorna, San Jervine, yeah, right? If you,

if you, if you're in the book of Connie Mendez, there's a moment where they start

according to all the reencarnations that he had a master. And there has a

time of that there's a time. And that can't be possible because were

temporales. But can be possible. You can be the possibility. The

actually, I mean, it's and it's not it's because they can be phenomena different

but there's the situation of what's that's the day of there's seven people there's a

there's a little and he's he's done to doves reales that we've been a page of

internet subio his photography subed and then it's to say to a level

world then they they're they're some the child the day of the day of

the day of the day has been exactly exactly exactly exactly in studies Genetic

and not have nothing of relation. So we're we're not not we're not we're

not even so we're so there are certain mysteries in relation to our body, and the

course we we're but it's very much interesting what of San Germain of that

that division of those that could be able in a reincarnation

I the reincarnation in some cases, if you have the

head on the englorn in the in the if it's documented that is real but this

even there is a thing that interesting the boardage that's the wordage that it's

very good because that no me was never I've never ever ever yeah, it's

it's very about a concept of the time about the things to have been having various

this how there's there there there a there a

a publicer scientific very very very actually that's

a little is a Spanish that's that that's the physical

and the physical quantica of a way very very so

you know I'm no no I don't I know I'm I know

I'm I'm but but let me let me let me let me

let me say how she he said Javier Ibarreche but he's the

he's the that's the Well, no, no, I don't remember exactly who, that terminus simply saying ScienceBitch, very, very, very, very well. And he, he, he,

he, that justly not we know, that's the reality and that and that the physical, if it's

the perspective, in the that you're so you're soficient if you're not the time,

the time no, see how we we're doing what you know what you know present,

past, and future not stay in that's a order directly. It's our way to

perceive it here by our body, we're our receptors of reality but when you're

you're you know, what what's what's what's it's percibi

totally different. So, so the time is not converging a form lineal

not, no, no, we're we're we're we're we're

not It's not just a It's not more our limitation of It's not a question of the way of the

thing. I think there many there are many mysteries in torno all time that can

occurrue there's a that's a lotcura that's that's and not so there

there was a show there's a series of Netflix that's called on this

show of some of some I'm know where I'm I'm

the the the the the the the and the people

are exactly like the day that's going to go to be able to and the the airon is like the day that's like the

day that's but during six or 16 years was he was dead. And the people used for mortals,

no idea of where he had caught. And they they're saying their narrations, well,

I don't know nothing. So, simply they just pegged and they're there there's a

time in that there was elapsus. Like a portal, like something something

and they're for them for them. For them for them. For them for them. But that case if

exists, I think this series Netflix of manifesto and there's a case that's a is a rocker. Yeah.

Some things of the difficult to explain to and there and there's that's a worded very

interesting. Yeah, we're going to that's some of the things that's that's supposed to this podcast is

specialized in Yeah, I mean, good things. I like very, very distinct

to what we have been doing to the day of the day of the thing. What are you? Yeah,

yeah, you have got a much, much, my attention, my attention, no,

this, this is a little more traditional of the things that manage. Right,

this is a story that me, it's of my family, me my mom for there

of the year 94, 95, 996, or this, I was, I was

to be to talk to me to say, they're some men in a Sandbors

they're and they're and they're and then the chat to one he makes the attention

that one when you say when you say you know that for favor don't not be

that all that all was like that all was that he he said he's like

he said because he why not you know so you do you do it much importance

if you he did much important they're they're very aficioners to the toros. They were very aficioners

to the fiesta brava. So, but this person he made a emphasis

three, four times about when you see you I'm going to you know, I'm going to

but they're talking about about the first that he said, oh yeah, you're going to go

to the to the day, yes, so, so, well, then I'm

to put to to get in the place, so, so, so, for you can't

So he said, He's a man, he goes to the man, he's going to the door

and he's oh, for favor have put me to him to say, he's

he's going to come and what he said, that's the person, no, I don't think,

I don't say the name, he's, but is that he's he's a six months.

He's, no, it's I can't see, I'm just I've got to be here

a couple of we've said he he fell six months. And then was when this

this chabot started to to get in what is the what is what he had said. And he was

to look to look at the he said the child. The child was going to a depression

for the part of his papa, for the things that they were so that for his

he was, it was a manifestation a important and he was, he was

a prime of my mom the who was a a

of her. And then it was a interesting how he went this person to get a to look at the child

and he said the message that his he had, I wanted, I wanted, but there's

how you can manifest and how you can live a lapse of time with a person and and then

was not he was, how was the energy so, so how far that was so forth that

can manifest that that kind of Dario Me He, for circumstances

of the life, he had to live with his old and he and his his old

in the houseita in the was a houseita but a little

when he is when he's the carer the little was

and was great and they were that had certain certain

certain but he had the life a very

a one a school and the abelita no receive with much carino with a

smile so resplandecent and he said, let me prepare to something to do eat a

little the he was a little bit of then so he said okay and then with what

you're going to chifelar and so a babyt the abelita he's he's

well let me let me go to let's go to go to do you

no no no no not you do you do you up up And then it's

it's a rarrow but, but no, no, he preso a lot of interest.

He's he's over he's a conversation, but he's very absorbed doing the he's doing the

he's he's trying and he's he's going to go to eat a breakfast very good

to eat he's and then he's he's but she she's she's

she's she's she's a final to give the And then she's She says, I'll observe

and be that she's in bevied in in verlo to eat and do you know, then he's then he's

finally to do you know, when he does the thanks, he says, Abolita, let me to

get to get to the things because I'm she's just she and she doesn't move the

head, and when she goes, enter the court and he be the abelita in the

piece. He had had fallen that day in the morning. And he took

like a last manifestation where she I just wanted to do you. He co-cino and no he said, he was going to

alterer his moment. Exactly. For that he impeded that he had to be up to be

up the house of there's there's, even put in the skin in the skin chinita yeah,

yes, there are there are insolitas that are insolitas that are inexplicable but

well, well, in final not all what paranormal my postura is that not

all the paranormal is terrorifico. No. much has to be with that when you're going to be

an camp in a camp in the we don't we know we're going to make a very vulnerable

and that's very inco and that's we transform in terror. At the final the tendency of

the long the story is that what is that's that's he's a way.

So I think the paranormal has a great camp of luses both

blackes and grises and those but there are stories very

beautiful and there stories that you're what was what happened what?

What was? Or, oh, I'm not going to have been this. Of this

way. I'm I'm tried to to give a reason to the things

that they're like that's like part of the natural but

there's there's this is this is more more of what it

should be to be so if something so

exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Rosario has a of that phrase

that you just said all that natural, but maybe this is more more of the thing you

know. Rosario, that's the mom, that's the thing. It's a And she The Rosal A little

And a Sometimes he He used to Because he He had an aroma Agradable No, he He used to

Because the rosal They had Spina's And in many Occasions That was And he He was

Spinard Tantit So he He gave Lacerer a little The

Brasor Or say In this time Rosario It was Like a A

In fact in A Dautlesenia But Dice that one day occurred something

something his his house and he's in an environment different

in a place he's he was that they were constantly and in

the night she was a quiet her that's that's

a place a little he'd be a he

he'd do do he he did he his

papas and he could do do to doorming with them. One day

he is a incomod, insecure, like if something if something in the

house. But no see nothing. No percibe nothing. So, he and at

the house see, that the behind the rosal there is a paper then.

So, it's the paper and when he gets a see how is

a man down man was like if it was a combination of colors between the ramas and the color red and then for a second my head me said, you're going to hallucinating things like a man. And for other other side is, he's moving, you're going to

take to take, you're going to. So, I decided to make a case to my brain that my brain that said, hey, do you a pass to back and observe. And there are some eyes in the middle of the rosal that they're observing, of color Amarillo parpade

and disappear They never ever be to get that's Maldito Rosal Yeah

no not even that I would have a good I'm I'm

I'm I'm there's a house and that that

was that that that that interesting yeah interesting

things natural that not that not that no

that not that not that that no that

I I remember, for example, a my abuelo he liked much the macetas. And is the same

story has to be with my abel. He fell in the year 2005.

I, I, I, I, I, uh, I, lived in my

parents with my mom, this, and I remember that I was in that time the work

in a caro, I was, I was, I was, I was a company that was

overmigel and I'd were remodeling. It was when they were when they were the railways of that avenue. So I remember that I had to my colony,

I'd, I'd walk to three quadras, and then I'd have a little bit of the area where, I was there were in my abuelos. Aforeara of the

house of my abuelos was a bankita, where my, my, my, my, my, my, my, I was

sent over and saw the people, and I was, so I remember that when recently fellace you, I go,

I go and I go the world in that corner and I'm but I'm so I'm

not so I don't I'm really a time after that I said I'm he's he's

he's he's he's when I want to look the I don't

know I don't I don't see to say to the maybe it's a more

it's a kind of you know you was you know but in the

house of my abelos, various tias that solian reunites with my abuel, they got to

see it. Not just he was in the patio, he'd in a quarter of the room of

the time, where the most of the time, he'd in different parts of the house.

Incluso they got to to a a pastor or a a

sacerdote to that he did you a when he was a and I

went to and I'm he said, he said, I'm sure his presence more in this

area. And just was his court of the room of all the time was

all the time. He had a maceats. He was a old that's

always had to be doing things of the house. Sure. And he

was he was a master albañil he he left his house

he He went to various of that colony. So, like, he's always he was active.

He was a major amount of time that he put, and always doing arrangements of

houses or doing massettes or doing things that he entertained much.

So, I think was like that's like his energy, still was a, to,

to leave a little to to get a little visit of the pastor this,

she he was to manifestar. Yeah, after that no no

no did it. No, no to manifest and the sensation that was

that he was a thing that's not aterrador? No, it was simply if,

she, it was she, I've got a lot of but I didn't that I

felt that was a bad, I'm more than I was like, like,

I wanted to be a little more more more more. And the

and the was a person to no, I was I, I was,

so I did, you when was when They were in the bank They're in the They were in their

Quartrembian So they No, They're in the Sombrough They're They're Yeah, okay

Okay So, they're And also Yeah, and then it was there were

an open a door. Yeah, so it And so when we were in a certain

place, we were in the door and we we were in the door and there really really nothing

there. Yeah Abigail had a story that I put a Piel de

a lot of she She has a in a company in the way she is a

good at but for circumstances of the company during two five days she has

had to get to and all the team of work are in like a

remodelation in an immacela then is totally a place in she is the

only employee she is the only she's her her but

occasions because he really has been to supervising the other

and go to go to for any and start communicating for the team. I feel like that

I'd be a good always been I've have been a lot of and it's a very very

strange. When she's only, the repent, in the officeina in the

there's they're they're they're to be a point and if she no

he's no they're not the that I'm the that's the Passed like two minutes and

another And then she She says, it's abjured And it doesn't say that Yeah, you'd be a strange

Because one of the Regals of the officeine is not to be doing the things very in serious And as well

They're They're all right Those are Yeah, so she She doesn't She doesn't And I'm

I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna no, no, there's a lot of this is certain, Well, there would be. Cere the door,

where he does the back, he does the back, he'll turner instantly the empooha. No,

I'm just imagining things. You know, I'm going to do a break. I'm going to eat.

She'll go to the door and he'll hear the voice of his head when he's in the

middle of the food. And he he's, Abigail, Abrey, Abrey, and then

she says, it's abired, and in the door it's year. His jeff

not a his head so he doesn't and he's a little and he's

a voice to see the but he's but he's he's I'm not there so I'm to say

he's a fear of and he says where you he says he says in the middle the

remodeled okay you have been in the office no me from I'm

from I go to come to get there while she she's there's in the

officeines and in the officeina of the office of the jeff and he's to see how he moves the palanca of

the door. And now I'll hear to hear the voice of the chief, Abigail, abrem me and not

you get where there's a tone burlone yeah, after that after the he said,

he said, I don't work here, I don't know to work here. And the he said, no,

I'd say, but not was the first that he was the story. And then, and then,

when she That's that thing, no to take nothing more my voice. He has taken the voice of various of those who are the point. Because the history me he was about to

talk. No see if he left the job. No. I don't know if the entity just they're doing things

in places in places in places in those that we've been in those has talked. And that was to do? All of the day?

In the morning and the moment more terrible was more than midday and one and a half the I'm sorry. I'm very

aterrador, but I'm I think that the light of this is a little more so I'm

that you feel the tranquillity of you know to get to a right?

Yeah, yeah, but well, we know, we're, we're that the

people that don't get this type of of success, because you've

been told various people that at listening that podcast not

they're not they don't do because they're because

is one of my cases. I'm I'm going to I'm going to see that I'm with Viviana. She was

narrating the story of a little bit of a little bit of a closet or something like that the story narrable something

Yeah, a point that's over and that between various people not they couldn't open until they

didn't get to an entity one I was talking just recently that part and me

I was, uh, this, lavando the tracts in my house and where I'm, I was, I was with my audiphon's, but I heard very clearly how they're in a cell. So I'll, I'll, and I see that the sills, no I can't record as they were, so, because I said, are those things utiles that at the

most, I look a justification, you know, that's that, at the most, as they're not? But not were, um, but not were, um, so they're in staling. So I remember that I'm

the how it and I'm and I'm to put a little to a pause to your

episode to assimilar what what we're what we're doing. Of the people

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you said just, me made a year a story. I was I was

contacting with various people, because we're there various projects

that they're going to do and on the and

just I contact one of the kids, I try I try to respond to the

reds with the people who contact them. And one of the family nocturna me contact and say, hey,

me has got to say, I need to talk to it. You know, you know, it's a way I said, I said,

I'm, let me say, it's the one of the time, I'm in middle of a park

and he he's he said, I'm trying talking to podcast, I'm going to see

to see to get a here in the park. They started to to see the presence that's started to

get a start to say, but in my life I've seen you have seen so much

my mind you know that's in my life has been a time when I'm

put a podcast it's no there's no way nothing he's

I'm but I don't I'm not I'm not I'm

I'm so so You've got me. You're going to be a lot of the Collaterals of the podcast. Of these stories. Of these stories?

Finally, no occurred more. In your house? Have you seen more episodes in what? I've seen more episodes in that

they're just going to some of the but I'll put it. But I'll do the explanation that's put up to do you. Okay.

If you've has been assaulted in your house? Yes. If they've been usutored a pair

of a part of portes. Okay. Sin reason a reason To live tranquill, or because

is that in a occasion, only in one occasion, what I got to make really

was that's two two that's not that's not in the same line, in the

same quarter, even in the same position, one is if they if they

had to put them to get a L. So, so there is it's

difficult to explain that it was but the rest of the

occasions is it can. If it can be. If it It's been.

Okay. I'd like I'd like this podcast but I think it's part of the magic of the magic

that's really. Yeah, it's very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And, and there's, there's been

phenomena of a person when it was heard a yeah, he was a laptop on connecter

and without battery, if it can't, it's a light of the house of the car, but

the laptop still still and there no, no, I'd have to

have a internet, it's signal of internet. And he says, no, what's what's going to be going to be a-a-you-a-pagher another person while I was,

he was going to be a little bit of the door of their door to do you and then said, I don't hear the door, so on the door,

so I'm going to hear of the day. So, I go so, I'm going to hear you go to hear of a officeina. And in a

office. What is the Family Ascura, people who I'm going to this point, what is the

the best moment or the activity in the that is the podcast? I mean that I'd like to me,

that they're to know in what they're doing the podcast, but for you what is, Jorge?

The way, the time, the where you're more sure, I'm more

sure. I'm not sure. I'm going to get into the rare, they're going to in the

way to be doing, so. So, so, are the so, so.

Yeah, so. That's that's the other cars, right? Yeah,

so I'm to tell something for you, for the family oscura, yeah,

I'm that I'm in confidence and I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

think, if I'm think, if I'm to get a disconfir of the question of energies,

thanks to the podcast, a me I'm clear that's that I'm

a reason of various episodes that we have done things have

happened in this studio. There was a time in which sonnable a chain No, there are no, there are no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, motive of one, and he was a sound of a carenaed that and it was and it was

during a episode, they were to go to rooders in the microphones, when we're

we're in the other in the house and they were some little shusurs. Part of

what I'm doing you do you eliminate of the cintas because at the moment

of doing the post-production you have the sensation to start it and I said one thing is to

talk about of those things and other thing is to ventartive to your house and even so

the energy is tal a basis no I don't know in all I feel a energy

very but a sometimes is such the energy that that is it

matisa to that from residual at that that

occur in these manifestations in people that you can

the podcast. So, so it's a lot of how it's a world spiritual, energetic.

Yeah, I'm very to do you don't understand the function of many things. I'm like,

like, like a reality that we've not we've investigated a fond. But that

if it will be we'll we'll have other type of sort of other type

of, even of even of the things, even to get, I'm

consider, I consider the part spiritual a lot important in the person

and a sometimes the prejudice of a religion or a fanatism as a way that

a lot cause cause I think that it that's that what he it's a

absolutely totally of I'm totally of I'm and the part of the energies

I've seen that I've also I've been I'm quite really

are really when you you're in the paranormal me clear

what what was the success in your that you did you think you

know that you do you know the that's the thing I'm basically

I'm basically I'm I'm going I'm going to what happened what was what was what was

what he made understand the paranormal the other he said he had some

some I don't know those I'm so freshas in the memory but when I'm to go to a

back in sacatecas that's called Noria of Angeles and it was a, it's a

rancho this, well, yeah of many years, no? And what I remember

much is that where we were we had to we had to get a kind of a particular

to get to get to get to the night's. And usually they're like

like on like on like they're like, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm like a tia of Like duendes. Like duendes, that were travisos, that were manifestos there. So, since,

I've got to conviving in this type of, of, in this type of legend, of, of, the, I do account, I'm a lot of

attention to these things, and always, I've been open to the possibility of their existence. What is? In the world,

the paranormal, there are many phenomena. And we're, we're talking, the reincarnation, viages in the time, et cetera,

et cetera. that is something that really you're that's that's you're

that you never you have been, and if you don't have given, you think you're, the santaia,

but when it's a dark, when it's when it's when it's when it's to make,

to the person, to the person, that's, that's what is what really really me, me,

me, me, it's, for the question of the bruchery, I don't I'm,

I'm, I'm using a word generica, I think it's for the manipulation of these energies, or for the entities

in the same, or for the, for the, for the, for the same, for the doing, for the doing, for the

doing, for the doing, for the thing, for knowing, there are things that can rebasar to,

your, your, even your, even your, so, you're, you're, you're,

you're, a certain things. At certain things. In feeling me vulnerable,

I think, I'm it's, that's, that type of situations. Figate that

the content of the comedians there's there's there's there's there

Hugo he said he said he he went to when he he was to move

to a certain in CDMEx has has he has to get first

to another house for circumstances and then then he

was a house very very a house that in one of the

one of the quarters had a one of other of the quarters, has

a hongue and part of the trato was that he had to do whatever a ralal that I'm

going to do and he's he's in the thing we we're we're doing a lot of the

and we're a electric to me make a revisions of and me let's and it and then

when he does it and he made to look to look at what I'm in a

part of the yacusus because there they guard the motor and part of the car

when they they're on a statue with a form humanoid that has the photo of the doggio anterior and

all is like in a panio rojo amarrated and then so go- he's where me met he and resulta that the doggio

entered in a situation very difficult and for a he's he has he has he has he and when he he's like

you know you know you know so these are so these are like these are like these are

and I'm never I never I said but from that I've got much respect to all the questions that

they have to be chisery, chancery or chancery and that type of that thing. I'm sorry

I'm also I'm also I'm much respect to that's a type of religion about what

the of the African of the and the Cubans the Cubans the Cubans

the Palo Mayombe and all of yeah much respect so we're

so they're so we're just so they're so so they're so they're so

some there's she know here Well, it's that's not the question moral.

We're not we're not really and bad. So, are the people are you and the person's and they're

using with different things. So, so, our respects for who who can

work or think in that, every one every one does that that's a result, it's a

I, I've said, I've been given my, I'm having to be the

issue of the omnis. No. if you remember the debates that, over all, after after

of an eclipse that was in 1991, I think it's a boom to talk about about the sound when

when it was when it was a man who said, and you know, the name Cano. Sure,

that was the eclipse solar, no? Yes, of the eclipse solar, that,

that's, that's that's so it's also, it was over the two, three of the

time, that's they said, they, they, they're, they, they're

the side of the sol. I mean, it was a phenomenon. And I think was a

very publicited in that moment. But at a reason of this did it

did some videos of the we've seen a a a time.

Okay. Like, there was, many manifestations to part of that of that of

the phenomenon of because he was a panel of septic and his

panel of people that was a Menomeno, like Mausanne contra, another that I think

said, I don't I remember how it's called, but it was a very famous. So, a me

gave for, just, for, more more to see the moment. The who's the

who gets in the job. So I remember, that when, there was, I was, I was,

I was, I was with some people in the football, and we saw in the

the world a pair of luses that were moving, but not only only

they were, not they were lineals they were like interlacing like and they're like having and it

and we're really much the attention because we could we're what they're those that were in

those, so they're we can differentiate because the lights of the light of the aviones

not, not they're not they're so much so much so it's just

it's but we were many many people, I think I'm 12 13 years

and so and then they They've creedero much. Another manifestation that I've of this phenomenon was one of the time that I took to be

in Guadalajara. But there what I was during the day were like three points, those or three points blanks

that in si form an triangle, but every point it was like if were a guusano of

paper. Some things that you see in the sky, the of which you

don't you can an explanation with the know that we know that

we're like they're like us there's like they're in the

people, planing that's moving with a rhythm different to the

kind of like they're like they're like they're now so they're like the they're

the the the the the the ventos yeah that's

that that they're we're we're we're we're we're

we're we can we don't not the stelas like those

those aviaries. So, like, a line that's going to every more big. No, because they were fixed and

they were in a time, and they're in that position. And, of the videos that were in

manifestations rare, because I remember to have been to one of his conferences, so I

said, I'm, before, I'm, before I, I'm, I'm, to be a

video of some the world, like, black, like, but they're like a family.

So, so, I don't know if that video was real but I was, let me, let me and it was the structure

that I was the structure that I saw, you know, the video that was like a family, I said two adults

and two children, like if were just more than just moving to the with the wind like if it was

a paper that he was that was that's an object that is an object that's in the world

that's a thing. So, So, I, when I saw that video, I was related with what I saw in Guadalajara, but because it was like, it was like of the material, but

what I saw knew not formed a grand thing, were three points that in it would be like a triangle, but they were like they were gusanitos that's moved, every one,

to see? Any other than you ever have you never been? No, only in that occasion. Fifate,

that part of the phenomenon that omni, that me really really much the attention is that I also I mean I saw

some of the life. Just my father he was really a lot of the phenomenon and that's yeah,

I always do do you see with a lot of fear, it's like, just to see a day you to see a

look at a little, and me took to see, and in a occasion, those lights are,

those lights, they were and then they were three triangles in the sky, and they were

to be to be to be but in a velocity in like this is this,

this is a not a And in I don't I mean in a point is

that there I'm in right. Right, right. Right, you know, you're

not going to you're in what you're in the time you're in the 90, more or

more or more or more or more. And see that another thing, but this

was more, is that it was a kind of, it was a question, you know, has to

get to that I'm to know I'm and of I'm know, not a

something, there's something, there's something that's chocando with the air,

I go and I go and I see there's a lot of a little volator like in the same

of the patio of I'm and in that moment I'm I'm and I

feel like a a ralofo in a whole of a cold so you

get something and in that I get and I get I'm

I'm I'm able to see a kind of I'm a

is a depredator, or something. A figure a human, transparent, sentada in my camera, but that's

a repose and it's a like, and it's and it's what I know to be, to be,

to be, and it's of those dreams that I was was in I was was there

no, I know, I'm sure, but when I was when I talked to some

I'm interesting, boy, saying, ohie, but is that I've seen that the

person, that's certain manner, Platica that I've had that's time of

experiences with Omnis, uh, of a repent of some things rare as like canas

prematura like that kind of of things that I'm like, ohhalla it's not

for that, and not for a thing, but, the fact, that's me generate, me, they're,

they're gonna you, you know, you know, I really, I'm, I really, so,

with a, with a my father, but there's people that when I talked about

this, I said, no, I'm I'm heard of that I'm like that

for the side of the Omnis. Okay. Figate that I have two stories

related with Omnis. One, I yeah I'm a story, but it's a story that me

in the point intermediate, in the no-se that exactly is what is what

was there. It's a house that's in a colony very bonita. It was

a house that built a a with a very carino and

it was the house of their own in the circumstances good at the one of the one of the

time you have to the time the the pair has to have to do that and then then decide to do you

and then his son and the house and then they're there's and both they'd be in

the family and it was a lapse of six, seven years that were going to be able to

be going to work in this job. So the Primo is the that's the

story, not the son of the new ones. And this Primo me said, I've been

really the house normal, I've been many old many old many old in a place beautiful

all the but when I'm going to live there at the few months first I'm

the lament of a woman. I think that my friend had played with

his novi and there was the that I went and I took

in the door in the door to and he's a little he said, I'm saying, I'm scared

I'm just he's, no, we're going to we're doing to be a fear. Pace the

time and if mal no I remember, he gets to see a kind of a kind of a lot of

and he's a lot. And he decided also to say nothing to say, well,

I said, well, you know, I'm what I'm in your door is the man of the

sombrero a man. One figure of a man that had a gabardina a negro and a new year.

And he he's like like he a part of a collar. He does much more he'd

not tell the prim because he's going to think that he's a covary we're going

to be and we're going to the night he's the day in the night and he's

he's very intranquil he, he's really really you know even you

know even you to your court, I don't want to do with only.

When I'm a little the room, the door, the door, the door,

the world is not a person a manoid with a little a head

so long, and the eye of the and the

other the thing is the thing, he to the door

to the he's he goes to and he to the

door the door the day the I said, I never I never I remember

my Primo what I did but that I'm a but that you think you think

you think you mean you don't see an extraterrest there was a demon but something

but something but not he talked to her never he never he was

he was a woman to make to make to make to make but her but his

friend he he said he I think that after there's not a

there's there because it's very rare that they have been done and he's so he now

he's not he doesn't pay the and for what he's he says he doesn't not a

no, no, he's a success. The second is the history of a hacker of the 90

Dave Macinan Day McKin on the day to day to day to do the United

and the United is he is a And he's playing for that he to get to

the United and he knows that he's going to get to get to the

court. Well, not well, he'll desvir and they're probably

what he did he did the 90s was different to the Julianna Assange.

Yulana Sanch has had information sensible of many many many

countries about of institutions of intelligence, and he's he has

he has of a country but of the cupules more profound

of the places to who nobody had yet in the 90, being the best the

first hacker in his moment, he met to the Department of Defense's FBI,

Cid, all, because he interests the phenomenon that is that, that instantly

where they are the hackkeo, they don't they're to be to be,

and since he has been to talk to a computer a computer. He discovered

three things in the phenomenon of the phenomena of the

forces of the United the forces of the United. The first we're not we're

only. The second not we don't they not we're we're those extraterrestes

those that are that they're all the things that are ratik the third.

It's so that I'm not I'm going to be to be but not it

but it's good for the thing to be the phenomenon the internet is a person that exists

he has told various of those anecdotes so for the amants of those phenomena, and tell them but it's a

quite far but it's you've seen? No, that not that has been there's a but this was one that

was a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of so much echo with what with what with what

with what going to exactly exactly exactly George you get a story

yeah yeah yeah but this is more like of religion. Super well because of

actually it's that I'm talking that's been that's been that's been I'm like this I'm like this really like I'm

a little so I'm going to wrap us here we're going to we're we're sorry I've been a episode

that I've enjoyed a question me you know you've got a story with you want to this has

this has to this has to this has been part of some groups of the church the

You know, you know, they're doing to retire, they're in a return, this, the end of the

end of the house of encounters, and they're in different moments, post, looking,

a structure of, the spirituality and a, a, a religion, so.

So, this story, in a movement that, I'm going to

go to because, the maybe, this, still, still, yeah,

yeah, this, in what I I know what happened. It's that when

the people enter in oration, a lot of they're in different don't, like the don't like the

don't of the Spirit Santo. The don't the Spirit Santo. And that was a

common that I think in the encuctor. But in this, and also

it's also, what what was, what was, it said was the

Lord Maria. It's was manifesto in a child and

he started about, well, of the Bible, so, nothing apocalyptic.

But here, the, the, the, the, the, when it's when it's

a little the encounter, in, we're in, we're in a moment of oration,

the people that served, I, so, because, there are other

the other people, who are who are there, and and they're getting,

and, and, But, well, not they're not doing, they're not doing, they're not doing, they're like collaborating for that the people who live. They said that there were, in the group of, the servitors, that so they're one that, one that's, that's plomo, and that's, and that's started to move as, as if were a serpent. So, they're saying that, the explanation that gave them those

chastardotes in that moment is that is that how it's how much the man, you know, that was the manifestation of the virgin, in that same instant it was manifesto,

the demon or someone who was someone who was someone who was that was the moment of the oration. The message I don't know I'm very well.

I simply were like to love to us one to others, respect to the family, the structure of the family I think

a message was a turn around of the Virgin and even it was it was

a moment special for that movement and they did it in the capillas

and mark with a star where it was a story that this movement

is that this movement and it through the the encounters that is with the

young so that so that's me I also record also a manifestation,

you you're you're a sure of yeah, yeah, this

star star this calaboso yeah, the calabos so if you do you do you

do you was an irreverent in the 90s for so I was a

friend of the Burrow ranking that was in that in that moment

image of the rebellion and of all irreverent

yeah of the of all the things that I could

could And I did that, for example, Estebanarse like took a in his, in his,

in his in his in his comportament and then he said because he he's a

place to a place, I think it in Bosnia in Mediugori. In Meghori.

You know the story? For a favor. No, is that I don't know I know

I don't know it's that he was that he said, that it was a place that

was a so there so there many people are and are

specifically to that because they know that they're going to manifest the

virgin of a way and that he's going to be a agonny

he was a regaient he was a person well we're a person well

this more living fiestas and excesses that was the popular that was the popularity

of the calaboser in that then so but then he said that

even with all and with all of her was her the husband, the

that he did to go to go to the company and a he was a he was there and he said

that he said that the same way when he was being in a little a house little bit of

that was difficult much that is the Virgin of Meyogory Meyukori Meygoory maybe I'm

talking about but you see that's yeah, yeah, yes, is that but it's that when

when it's when it's when it's when it's this, he was a one, a family

I think American that had a boy that's a little like, let's say

very, we're a voice very grave that was a voice that was a

voice that he was that that I'm that I'm that he was going to and that

he's he's he's he's he's says, Esteban, you what

you do do so he's a cold no he's what he

did do you did all the child the manifestation of the

the show he did go his and but

was he was definitely confused he said that

still they still they and that that the first

first time, but at the last they're an opportunity of the of the time.

And he he's not of that's not of the moment, but in the kind of

some kind of sort of was what he fell the 20 of what he had lived.

And it he did that he because now, if you you get to be

in the social on his other programs, he is abirtament Catholic

and Mariano and, and, so, is a defender of the

life, is a kind of the, of the abort, of, so,

so, so, he was, very religious, very conservative, and,

so about, very vocal in this type of ideology. So, so you see,

you see, right, with these new manifestations that are in the

social and all this generation, not a person very

but for me is a very clear that had a change a

change, a rise of that he he manifesto. And he he's

he's in a way of a little video he'll get to and I

know how it when there when there a manifestation of a kind of

religious like in this case the virgin, at the same time

it's something more more more. Yeah, something is that

is like is like revela the things that are that

are all sometimes occultas. there was in in the 90 with this story I'm here

because it's a story that I took a very close to me at the 90 between the

year 96 and in that in that rangito of three years it was to occur in Atlanta

the manifestations of the Virgen I don't see if you said you

said that in Orlando Florida started to appear like a a sun and it was going to move in the

people people were to see how the reflection of a virgin that was of colors,

like of light, something something and that the people that were resable

those rosarios of the madeer they were to be so it's something

that I have done that I know that in the common of the people

it had I'm I've been I don't remember I've heard of

I've seen this this scene that was something that was a real that's

much he had been born I'm know I'm I'm people who

were people are people not I can't say esepticos because they're

religious of reason so we're not so not so they're they're they're

because a group of the people they're they're they Well, because

not I'm going to Orlando. Well, but not that's never seen that and we're going to

know that. They're going to and being in that not they're nothing. But they're

a rosario in the man, and he said the rosario was a matter, I'm

he's a man, and he's he's of he's of it's of it's de he's a

talkal. And he's he's a little for my life this this thing was

this The alchemists The gemists They're called Transmutation, I'm It's something It's something

No I'm not I'm not I'm I don't think the I'm not I'm I'm not going to many things And in this case The madera

It's transformed in a metal Yeah, but there's two phenomena There's two phenomena There's There's a virgin

of Atlanta of Orlando That I have I have with these two numbers But one is just the transmutation

of things of made of the if it was it was it was transformed in gold, of what it was made the

two rosarios and they were of people that were not they'd not end up much with this type of

and the other is that in the common of this anecdote that was that

was so that's been that's even that I know that were

that they're to today of they don't they're it

It was like like if were a initial of an effect Mandela. So,

if someone knows, someone who has heard of these stories of

that of the Orlando, of Atlanta, for there, between the

96 and 99, that were that were when they were and that

the sun were and they were all these

these people, and they in the comments. Jorge, thank you

much to have been to this episode. I was sure. What did you? No, it passed very well. I was much too.

Many thanks, Esteban, for the invitation. And, I just so, I'm going to keep doing to your podcast.

Very well. We're just open to more ahead. Prepare our other things and chere a good

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