HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Ep:100 Mi abuela hablaba con espiritus | Ft Karina Picazo

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

Estuvo poseída en más de una ocasión Familia Nocturna hoy llegamos al episodio número 100 y que mejor manera de Hacerlo que dándoles un episodio, con una integrante de la Familia Nocturna, ella es Karina Picazo, fiel seguidora del canal desde sus inicios, es posibles que algunos de ustedes ya la conozcan por el canal @cronicasdelnarrador ya que es la protagonista del episodio titulado, ella usaba espíritus de animales “episodio ELIMINADO DE HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE. Este episodio tardamos meses en prepararlo, ya que Karina se dio a la tarea de recopilar historias con todos los miembros de su familia y hoy viene a compartirlas. Asi que démosle una calurosa bienvenida, como es característico de la toda la Familia Nocturna, a la que quiero y aprecio tanto. Si leíste hasta aquí, escribe “ella conoció al padre Amorth” y te responderé, de eso hablamos en el episodio eliminado, y solo tu y yo sabremos de lo que estamos hablando. Comparte en tus historias te Insta cuando estés viendo este episodio y etiquétame, así podre agradecerte y el podcast podrá llegar a mas personas.

Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new and special episode of Let Me We'll The Today, The Day of Today, we have in Cabina, a one integrante of the Family Nocturna, that those who are The Chronicles of The Narrator, the other channel, DeAlems of What We Have It No. Recurtings of the Narrator, there, there, and I, we just saw him in a episode in which Karin and I and you were about exorcisms, and this grab, Karen, when it was in April, right?

In April. In this year, yeah. Yeah. Well, in this second occasion that we're going to come to talk us stories familiar

that's that are there. And well, one of this that is part of the family nocturna that's coming to

tell you, Karina, how you're doing? Very good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you. Because I know, one is to be the stories and other is to come to tell us.

Exactly. How you you feel? Relathed, Lista. That's so. Very good. That's going

very good. Karina, I have to make a question first, Creece in the paranormal?

Yes. Second. Me said there you have some that you're sure this? It's correct.

What do you do? If to do you do this interchamble to one?

Adelate. This story me let sender a sender just I separate

for this episode. He me He said that he and his family formed part during much time of a

church a mormona. In this church a mormona he, during much time was a member very active but that

his papa, his papa was a devote of pusso Colorado, so devoto 24,

7. He commented that in the formation of his father, he was

he had a, he was and they've been like a certain formation moral and spiritual. And there's an anecdote that since like 20 years has transformed in a story that's about in boke in the house. He says that one day,

his papa no came. After that, he said, and all of thatunt, and they were concerned that he, and he, with six persons more, they were incerrated

in one of the temples and not they were to go to three days the community not was

the community didn't know they were an decision that they were a decision that they were so when

he got he said he said he said that for they said the sir,

he said much time he said me the opportunity to do you do you

and then I'm I'm going to let's all this had

generated much incognite in the story. The family I wanted to know what

had occurred and if it was a very, they were they're doing, but they're different.

After the the year he said, the he said, he was, he was this day, that

he was the time, he said, he has the name I think they they're called Patriarcha,

that's the person of the person of the major hierarchy in the group, he was going to

a thing about the maldd he's, he's to talk to the

maldd when He says that the repent he opened the door

and he came a man and he's that he he's that he has a

house that he he has a a time in a hospital that he not

he not he and the doctors they are doing and they're

and in those he's they say for favor to someone helpen

it is the temple most in the hospital help

the the an an man he he said,

Signores, this not is a question of valentia. This is a question

of honesty. Necessito that only just get in these people that

really believe that that they're very and firmes. If

you have doubts, if your style of life not has been

conform to your if any thing is there,

by favor, bet in this instant. No, you know, it's. He said that in

this group there was about 37 people. And it were not two seconds in reparer

well, because at final, we can understand that in this type of situations,

and in a group that's of a type of religious, there's there's a

person, not they're not seen, but at final, the first, he said, I don't

put, I'm not he, he's he's he's he's until the final

there are six or seven persons, between them the papa of the subscriptor. He says that one that they're

he said, ultimate call to attention. They're going to get here. What we're to live is

something that's a life that never have lived in their life and we're we're going to live.

So, so they're all the firm, they're we're they're he's

he's exactly if the Bible of the Mormon or what the book, but

they're some books and some some texts speciales for that and they

did he the sir, that I'm here in the part interesting. This story not

it's not really the exorcism. Trata of what he said. In the exorcism,

the he said, all what you've seen in a movie, I live in

in the car property. Retors to, talk to talk

with voices that not were to know things

that not had a But all of that all of that all of the problem

was when we're about to terminate. We're almost about six hours. All there

doing doing or saying ordinand that's out of ordering that all the time to give

the name to this entity until there was a moment in the that we

did a name and we we know we did because the temperature of the

place, of a place, the way to be a little. He's a

place, out, and we're going to a little a lot of, we're a lot of

that was in that person was to have fear. We're not going to make a little bit of

the little the piece. The retubing between all, and we we're

to order now with the name of this entity that's said, and in

a moment, the she was a little the the arid, she apaled

all the lights. And in that they were the light, and the little bit of

the time earlier. We're we're in the time. We're doing a second. And the

year we're not going to see the parliation, we're not the patriarch, and they're in the

doors. And of can't say, because there's the possibility

that that that's not the way in the way that it's not it's possible that

is a into one of us. Dice, then during three days we've

an day one very pesed we're doing orations almost

all the day and they that I don't explain or I said, but that

end of that time, for me it's clear that the mal exists. I always

lived, I've lived, like, so I'm never so never so much so it's

and not me don't be important. The important is that the thing is that it and contaminate.

Wow. One a bit this story, for I'm a story. Sure,

that's Tomah Of that's That's That's That's What you?

That's Yeah, That's Yeah, Alondra me comment that the age of

seven years I'm in Guadalachara in a local called Ameca

She She lived with his papas in this house that

consisted of three Pissos was Porche Cucina Commod

andor Sal and followed by some escaleras to

the side of the right right that you had

the second piece. The second piece consisted of a

quarter to the right to be a right, two quarters

more followed for the third piece that was a

lavendaria and a service of the service of she

She she she I'm she was she she

was she moving or and they were there

was they they needed. One of those nights, she she says,

she says my aunt, my aunt comment that at the moment that he wants to not

she doesn't the end of her, then she he's up and he doesn't go to

find the she, they're not in the they're to be a first piece,

they're on the second people, so they they're they're they're

they're they're they're they're they're they're they're have entered to the

but not they've moved the curtain and they're my prime there's a question they're

doing, I'm going to do you go to work to get to get to get to get to the

camera pass on the days and they're and they were playing I'm playing with

my and I'm and he said my time, well, we're going to

do you know, not that my friend so they they're to be kind of

kind of they're to be putes of Ropa Sucia, to the sillon,

for that she not was out of the fourth, and for some reason, she would get to

they were not, not they were not explained how she said, how she did,

the madina of her comment, that the maybe could be the angel, a angel,

an angel of one of one of the primas. So, maybe it's rather,

this, time after, she she moved with my Tives to Monterey

other primos of them to live but she said when I said when I was

when I was a not because I was what I had been my papas

but my primos if I saw and they were to this and they

the he had his papas he had assassinated to martyazos

of this this is the man who was a form of the face, he was like a little

a little he said, and in that same house, no see if they're going to

my t'clock or was after that my tio had a computer so, so a

occasion, the so she's, you know, the time, the time is the computer was that

is the computer was in the second the other piece, is trying to to bring the computer,

now he says that he he's a feel a man, he's a manse, he disappears.

Obviously, he goes to get to my man, my man, but yeah, after that

these, these, these, these, they're going to Monterey, and in what me,

he's a person, they're, to trygerer to this little, with them, so this

this, this new, what he, what does, or the role that, that,

play in this family is the alerted of things that going to pass. She says to one of those

he's she's he's he's like I thought it was like a voice that was like

I said no what to me comment to me and he said you want to call your your spouse

had an accident no pass nothing five minutes after they said she had

had had been an car was a total and she was

she was she was without Persona that I'm a lot, he says to

the other to the place to you know, it's like a man, but that's what she

said, now I know exactly, I'm could do this description physical, if it was

a little, was a back, color of the cabo, nothing. She really no

remember. Just the question of the martyazos and the car deformed?

To what the people they said, they only I don't know I don't

remember exactly because I was in that state What age I had in this five years

five years yeah was very very little pretty there there are there are

there are you contact that they contact for different reasons Eva

Ugart you has heard of this actress or she is actress

or cantante she's okay Eva Ugart she told a

story I think the ormiguer. In this program, if you've been, I'm going to the program. Excellent. On all this. In this program,

always they're in some moment if you've lived something about and there a anecdote that his mom years after.

Miserra that her mom had the hobby of paint and that he went to visit a city and

he took to make sure, to make sure, if it's a picture, or it was painting, decorar the

houses. But if Kered in a residentia a little an old old in the vacation, he went to be

a lot of his stances, and he's that the moment in the room there's a television there's a

old, and where it's a television, the television is on the instant, it's a little bit

and then the window, and the person, he's a woman, he says,

a man, and he says, tranquilla, no I'm going to do do do

and the television is the television is so the mother and the

she's no, I don't I don't I'm don't know because it because it's

that the child the the thing was it was to anticipate

to give us and they're not there things that they're there

there are with different finalities that can't that

other story that has happened that is that's funny

very interesting. That's another story. I don't me I'm I'm I'm

I'm going to get to see. No, you're so. Maribel me

says that she's in the general Teran. All of his family,

the husband of my prims. So thank saludos Maribel.

Much saloos Maribel. And she has many stories. She

me she she me the major. Her mother Fannie had in this a rato,

five years, in that moment, five years. She said, she said, he, he, he's to play with

this, about this, this, this amigua, this amigua, she's, she had a much with

Monica, and Monica, come back back, Monica, come back, there. There was a

day in that her her name to her, she said, what, what activity they're

doing, but they did, Fanny to his mom He said Why you Tardast

is that I was that I'm talking about I'm I'm not that I'm never to

get to play. A becina is talking with the mom of Fanny and he

said Oh yeah what you said that's that's playing with a

friend a imaginary Monica you know you know

and the bestina and the bestina he said no asked me he said

because a child had this amigua imaginary called Monica I said

and ask to ask where this Monica to what Sochil me comment about

is that this this little was that she was because

the his because the parents were much so so

so so she to ask what is what is

what is what he is what he was and one of the day

she she was oh yeah this Monica where is she

she She said, I live in Guadalupe for bombers. Ah, and what is it? No, it's that,

like, it's like, it's not, you know, I'm going to give to you know, to goves

with her. This, he's, said Maribel, that literally the little, the little, the girl

and he said, Monica, says my mom, that she doesn't want you,

so so right we're not going to play. Maribel me said, she,

she's being the mother, my mom me obligue to play, she,

was very chifled, he said, but we got to do you to have to be able to get to

this little called Monica, this amygian this amygian about with the most of the most of the

other and the other becina with a little bit that's the age of Fanny and

they're at a guy, and they said the mom, why you're talking in

not you was that was that was playing with Monica. Wow.

The she says the mom of Mario he said, what did? Ah,

that's I'm going with Monica. You know about the kids and you know,

but I'm that there's a lot and what did you was that they're that

they're to start to play with the kids for that they just

to have to this this amigionary that also I

you're being the part we're getting many many

many people people the children not are a child a child

a phantasm well also they're that the demonio could get to get a form of the

yeah what's what's that's that that's not I have heard

not honestly but we know that we know that the demonio takes

different people that you appreciate or the form innocent of the

the little to to get us exactly there And, figgat, with this story,

me traquista the mind one story that I've got toped, that also is of a subscriber, and it's a story that

me made very amissue. He said, if I was a person, not you can't say, because no,

I was, not it was a thing relevant, the, the paranormal. No, it was properly septic,

because, as not, as a relevant, not is something in what has made done,

many many, but it's something that's a I say, but the day of today I can

say that what is inexplicable or that exist in the entities that we've seen, if it's

that's a question like a question like a false or that some of because my family

lived something and with my family I refer to my spouse and my children, we've

a situation of that that doesn't much sense. He said, with much

effort after the few years, we're we're we're

a house. I said that the idea was that was that was the

house of our and it and the house of our and

just we just only we put in some I'm

in a peripes with the bank to make that

other person that had that we didn't but

the money but the money and when when we got

that house from the first day, it was a a little an ambient strange. It was an environment like a

little bit a little lugubre, but I don't me didn't know because the house really

was a little bit kind of not so it had to make certain changes, the pictures

because not were very beautiful, not was not reflectable the light, the

windows the windows, and were not so So I said, I think, I think I was for there.

I did those changes. And even though the light in the house, it was a dark, it was a

dark, how it was the things were more, more densas, more apagas, as if entered in

other sub-reality. At final, as I was in the shock of the company of the house, the debt,

the payos, the rhythm new of the new point of the city, etc., I'll say,

not it was a time so relevant. But, but of a repose me starts to pass a

report continual. Our children have friends imaginerious. And I like,

I'm like people, yes, I'm going various times, that I hear

that I'm going to give the number's because I said to let me know the

but we're going to Julian and Alejandro. Julian is in our life,

and the two are all of them and the two are talking solos. So,

I'm talking and they're talking like a corner of a corner and they're

talking about very effusively. And when you're saying, ah, is that I am I

my friend, and the other I'm saying, but there's I was the reporter was continuous.

I'd I'd I'd go to the time and I'm Julian and

Alexander were another other The girl was with the other and they were going to the other and they're saying, well,

some, are, they're not, but is that, I'm, I'm saying, I'm saying, I'm saying,

I'm saying, why? He's said, is that they say, is that, they're, they're, they're not,

they're doing the , and they're, they're all the doors of the courts, they were open, and say, yeah, now, they're in the

door, and then they're to start, and then, and say, yeah, it's a, that's a

very, to, for that, for the , in questions more materiales and I'll

say, you know, you know, don't let's not much a lot of you know, put you

just putt more at that with you yeah and no, no, infls the situation.

And then then I get to report, oh yeah, it's going to something.

Why? Yeah, no, they're they're they're they're, and they

put in they're they in, I'm in the door of

the count that there was a problem. The children never had put a second and two. Julian, if he

he'll he'll he'll get a man, he's just a penance the part of

the top of the chapa. Yeah, it's a thing I'm to have to try a shillita and

it's a effort. And then then I went to the report in the I said,

okay, okay, it's something that has a thing to be with

amigues and imagineries and no has to have been with the people. He's a question that the little

the little is talking, he's aortadles to the court and where he's to come to

see the little to the door. No. And in that moment he's put the

second. And he and there my wife, here is a person, this is

kind of interactuando with our children, we know we're saying that's a

and this is rare. He says, well, a part of we know we're not we're doing our kids.

I was looking like what I'm doing my problem in the job. I was in a job super demandante.

I'm just only got in the night. My kids are that interactu with them. Everything was

that she was in car and that's not could be in a torrento. So, I'm in a situation yeah, very

disgastant, very Okay, sackalos, or so, sackal those and there's where we're the extrano. They're going

to develop an obsession. When we were to get them to the house, we're to be with our friends,

we're going to talk about them, because we don't get from you, and they're from it. In that

moment, I did know, I'm, we got to the day that we were, when we're when we're doing

the carable, in the part of the house, sonable, passitos of the that were the kids that

cross from a quarter to another. He said, I'm doing that's not my little

my little my kids were in the car my spouse was going some things for the

car and I heard from a quarter to the and we're not we have cats, no we

do to the quarters and it's and it's and it's a horrible a presence

like something something like something was that was he was

I'm a little he was then so so it could

have stories of entities phantasmas that are going to be young and not are kids. Tivaribel

me told many stories for one of those that was that me kept very grabbed and very

short. She she said she before I was the house

of her the house of his family of Maribel so you know you know

to be to be building these casas have to put the

piece and they have to bring to the earth. Yes. For not

to buy a a house, and they're a piece. You know, you imagine

you're all the thing you know, that's a time. One occasion, at you know,

she's, she, Maribel commented that the door of the kitchen had been

because, because, because as they were at the other house, like,

like, so it was to be the house. So, she had had a lavant

had the door of the door of the kitchen abired, and

had the door of the door of the front of the so she is there

is a lot of a little bit and he's a little he said

she she'll pass it so then what to do do do

so to get to more to see when when

when when there there there and she with

she with she for say me that the

the the she was another of she no

no they they are in the school. Nobody's

in the house. Madre. She's he's the only time. It's the

one of the other ones. It's like that's the one and unica of good. Yeah, of good.

Also, there are many people that are some like some of people who are not

necessarily in pen, but some in the state of that's stadeo to transcend to another

state to It's difficult to explain the other state of the soul of the spirit. But definitely there are

things strange that occur when you're when you're those things that are used in the other in the case

of the house of the other but also when you do dores rare. There was

a subscriber and I know what we did. And I know

is good or but I'm I want to what we just we've got to have to

last we we're in the disjunctive of we have to act to us, we need to we need to a rach

very, very, very negative. Very, negative in question of work, in question of health. Nothing that,

or so, they never, they were to dogeria or things of that they're simply, they're doing

more the decisions, that, so, as they had had been a run, they're having un-as-

simply to, as the life that does But it's, no? But it's a moment in the way you

have a lot of people and say they're in they're we need to change the things.

Because it's not it's not so much. We've made us a attitude very cabis back,

that we had we were very negative and as we're we're things different.

We've we're more more more more to be good,

important, we're things that that can come that we try the more

vibra the day to day. And when they started to do those changes to

get a mann't he's a job in a place for the way to be a postulado

of that he was they were to do it and they do it a a

and he he he gave the first the first the first

he said she did she what he did with the he was

he was he paid various of the debt and

he After a very little time to have a new work and it was very notory

for the people, because all are going to get to the people. They're

saying that in this rach after the person, after the thing, what is the

thing, what is the what you said, they said they're they're going and they

see, and then all the house manchated of the same, all,

for the front, Pardes, port, entry, bedrios, all all

like the and just in the entrance they're in the window, as they're

they're being the same saying she she's she she's a fear and that then they

they're they're they're they're for envy for the car so like

we're going and maybe somebody no and so I don't like so

he says because no we're we're we're we're we're not

we're not we're we're we're simply we're yeah. It's

very rare that. The extrano is that after my father got a job

a man they're they're they're they're they're a random.

I'm I was looking for a place for a very badit me contract

in something more for what that even was not

incredibly incredibly well and this this this that's what they're off out of

the house or no has nothing to do we're doing and we're doing to because someone came

to do a and that's going to be going to so random here what you know the time

is the period of time in the time and all and you and you you're

and you mentioned if at the time or they're to be in the things to to pass

things to pass a other to She has I think I think it's two or three

times with your work. The mom also has a month, the mom has a month and

the other two months and a time they're a lot and it's a part of that all in

a can't in a in positive so. So it's I'm like in a well

not to not to do something but something something did you do you do you

because you see that they're because you're they're going to get in

In some in some cases, yeah. So, that just it's for the

case that's that's that's that's the time really really the

time to how every family I'm doing that she's and I

did it and it is like that's you and you know, we've done to

this entity doesn't that's a lot that's many times. But if they're

going to cover. Ah, the Pago for the other part.

Martha me commenter that one of those tias he said that he

she had a tian envied very very young the year after after

she has a person. This person has a relation of the relation of the

wife of the the tia not is very good. Typica

person that He's going to make Cizana no, I don't have that person and he's doing a brogheria so the

man, he was a old of age was a very afferrae that, no, is that he's a

drugeria and has that said my my friend that he says, you're

so sure that's so sure that I'm, I'm, he said that they're in the car

to to what the he said and they're and they're

they're they're to lineers to this place called the Petaca

that for the people that not know that's out of the or in another part

of America or where you're you're not you know that you've to know that

you know that's a long in the time was known for there's many

a muchism bruchas was like a a center concentrated of the

catemako catemako but in New York um they're to

this place with a person really they were looking because no they were

not they're very little people. And the people were people who were there people who

came to see that when she came to the time the time and the and the

and the person and the story and the the man and the brother

and the person with the the she said really you think she's

that you're doing brujria and the that's doing is your her

She no. And he's my amiga that when the Tiel is to

commenting this, he's kind of that he yeah. I don't see if

there was some any kind of but he was to get it to the petaka

for that really that really that was that was doing? Yeah that's

his his the history no continued to see to

just just it was to really that is

that's I'm saying well, that that someone that you say,

that's bad. So, wow. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh.

Yeah, is that there's there's that I've entered that there there are

that we're not to talk about in this podcast because not it's for the

community but so, so as as there families very good

where there's for something is the thing of the cuerbos, no?

The of the crier curbs and they They will be sacer to the eyes. I think there are families where

really don't know why, any what reason, and what circumstances, but no exists the reality of them to

and there's and there's a type of utilitarism extrano, where they're disposed to all to

obtain the of one of the members of that family. So, so it sounds very

crud, but no me suen to nothing that can be a realist. That's

what's that's situation. In the history that's the stories that they

were, there's there's that I want to but we let's first to

this. It's a story very beautiful usual. It's a subcriptor

that his brother had a neurism a neurism an

accident in the brain in 2021 was super super very

very very very even with that's even with his brother had a

normal. There was also where not was lucid and about things so a little more

more more than the effect of these medications. Well it's to occur

in these visits and before the operation. For the day of the

other the operation the situation but something, something something

that's something that was in that the hospital. They're saying that the

brother, obviously, when he was lucid, was nervous, was tense, he was the pendent of what going to

with the treatment that he was doing, but that he was going to be a lot of and he was sure,

and he said, about a woman sitting in a chair and the chair, all came in the chair,

and the chair was in the chair, and the said, that that she was a woman that's that's a

she's in the way, ah, he's that's good, is that's that's very calm, but he's nobody, we saw, there, and there nobody sat down.

Only no, we just didn't we're just we're curious. Total, what's the situation, he is all the

very well of the and she's, and we're always we're in the chair, and he says,

because, because it was very notory when he was lucid and was very notorious when nother was lucid and only about that sheller when was perfectly lucid.

Never in those moments in where she was always totally hallucinated. So, I was going to a conversation normal and he had mentioned of her. The situation is that is that they're a doubt of who is this lady? It's a year and a half

because this is what I've got to to occurrearer, or so it's occurred the same last, when he retomed the time. we're seeing a video about images

made made with an intelligence artificial and then my brother he's

kind of impacted so he illuminated the he's the she's the woman that's the

woman was a picture made for intelligence artificial that said

interpretation of the virgin Maria and then all said they're

so it's it was she was she was she was

that that's the santa that I'm the hospital So, so we're the

people, we're really impacted because my family not religious for nothing. We're not, we're

we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're not, we're to go to

misa, nothing, neither, and he's and my brother to have to be with that

thing, so it's very very strange, very, so very strange. That's

that day to- the day of the a story that was a little that's very beautiful

and it's a lot of quite to be quite a very much but Carrey my stories are going

so that so let's so let's so Marisol me comment that she she

she was she was not me I think the age I know about a little a little

a little a few seven years he accompanied his papas with

her brother I think the father well is a, a, a, a,

a company I know to get to get to get to do you, I'm, I'm,

not I'm very fresh, but she comment that she's, she's mom, talking with

the children, for this, he's, to do, to do, to do, to do, to do,

to do, to do, a, he said, a, car, to, a,

a, car, and, and, he's, he's to the regress. She's talking with the

moment to another dormita and for a question of seconds, he he's up and he's done that the child, my

Marcell, he had a six years, I think the brother would one, 11 years, 10, 11 years,

she does a know that not so the woman, is like, how can be out of the doors are

in the door, as far as when I'm heard the door, how no, I heard the passos that

was that's going to a carer and we're in a time you're going to be in

the car to be to do you to do the person, he's that the he's a kind of you can't have

been out, we're in a caro very transitated not you didn't know I'm really really not I

did count, I'm doing and I'm and I'm and I'm never stahed so they're in the

He goes to pass on the days, he's a man accommodating some documents, and the little bit of a photo. And he's the she's the senior that me, because for this, pardon, me salted one part. When he, when the

sir, when the, the sir, he says, how you cruised? Is that the senior with lends me to crosser. The senior with lentes. Tiempo, the time after the

sir is looking, some documents, sal is this photo of this person, and he he says, she is the woman that was the

little bit of to cross her. Chabelita is the chabelita was the name of the abuela

paterna that was that year. Wow. The little never he never knew.

No, the no, because he was he was known for the I,

I could identify for the photo. For the photo, not not when

she was not not so. Wow. Wow. It's is that is that

you're that's you're that like certain families are in the

pendent. They're in a point. And it's in a positive. Although they're there's a bit of

a bit of a lot of a lot of going to do passos at that. A sometimes the

program let me let's that no, I don't have understood very my

function and he I think that I'm to finder something so I know that

I'm to determine if something actually. My function here is that I'm a maldito curious and I'm a question exclusively

you're constantly. My function exclusively is, is indigar and to start information and start to describe situations that live. To what conclusion

that gets to get to get to put a situation? My respect. The form, the people a lot of times think I'm

that I'm going to finishing or that I want to do something I don't have an idea specific of something. And it's a no.

No, no, I don't have any interest in that the mark of the creencies of the

person's change. No, so it's like that every is free of the

way to think. Really, this podcast is to try to experience of people

that have lived to and for me that I have done a lot of things

that they have done and the things that there are things that not make much.

There are things that I I learned in some moment that me did

parameters of how it's the world and in the relato's it's it's

and I think that and I think in descriptions repeated of people that are in different

parts of the world that not they know, and that you know, and that

is the fact, it's really, I'm to have more the intuition that I

can be to start to understand that what occurs in the other

other side, that simply in creencies, dogmas, and in because me said it was, so in other words, a time, me has been

going to know a little thematicas as to involve me as far in the story of exorcists, but also also, as

the other people, there are that there are patterns that are repitens and so that repitent and so that

me to say, okay, according the experiences of much, also, the religions, the creencers or X culture

that this not happens so, it's like in the practice, a basis, even I'm to say,

I consider someone I consider someone I'm a piece of some, because many people know what's

this is a maximum in many of the creencies spiritual. This, take it the best

that's me is listening in the whatever platform. If you you

think in the market spiritual, you think there's that more there's a very present

that in that the spirit not are not a corporeous and there entities that are

not even they're the capacity to adopt the form that that that

that that simply simply simply they can be

and they can be another other and you you

and you you can't you you can't that that is

not that not is if we're seeing a little bit more or maybe in some cases if it's a

little bit of this, so it's not easy to make pinss in the question as a question as a speech. People, if you

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Kadi, what other story you have. Afto right. You're about.

The question of exorcism. What on that? Fittate that I'm tope

with a story there a podcast the title of the podcast was

in English Michael on the exorcist or Michael the exorcist of a father

called Janior Regil or Daniel for the Rassah the

father comment that this story was was the was

for a colleague of and and and I

said right the story can It's probably can be

a bit but right we're getting to this point. He comment that he

he this father he said there was a man who was a

man who was always the people and people were that said I'd

do you would be that I would be whatever decretable those words

and I have to have much careful with what one desire because

they can to or the reality. Passed in the days, she has a dream, and in this ensueue, in this dream

is a man very bellow, and he says, really, you're really, you're not, you're doing? You're sure

of what you're saying? She's she, she's sure that she. She said, that in the person,

with his dead, cortel the end of the end of having produced this contract and he

said that firm. She affirmed with the Sanger, to the contract, it disappears

and the sinas and the suns to be in the dream, a pesidia normal,

like any other. Here here comes the rarro. When she she up,

she can't she can't that the end of and is and there canis

in the piece at the side of the camera. Passed the two

she sign a contract and and he gets a to get a fama,

it's devolve this fame that comes this of the

end of the and then he gets in the question of drugs, and then injecting

to get unfortunately contraicida. She she she's very mal of the

health almost at the last last in the room to

her she he he The mom hysterical, you say that you have to be an exorcism, nito, that they're

to be able to because that's not good, they contact them and he says, you can't runper this, of that's,

you know, you're making, you know, what you have to do you put a credo in the spejo with your

own your own your own and you do you're saying, he said, he said, he's like,

he said, I'm going to put to put to my patient, conida, to cut to the leg,

and put to put so you can't you can't get to you're the only

way I've to be to be the only she's the she's he's he's

a minute after then he's convulsiona and obviously the doctor

is enoched he got to get in a moment of hysteria I

got to to get to all you're so a lapse of

10 minutes the chava take a boca, nana

of air and he a seat in the camera. I'm a

little to get a surprise. The doctor has been some the doctor has some

a chava has a child no. Yeah no. Now here here this

story that it's a story that this is this this, this can't be a this, we

know, we know, we have exorcism documented, we know that there of this

question. But here, and me caused a little of a realty of

the violinist of the devilist of but it's based in, I don't

remember, Pagini. Uh-huh. So, what comment to this father,

that this muchach a of all this that he doesn't, she

decided uh, uh, that music that she produced that with that a

gilin, 100 to God. And it is like in the religion

Christian and only he's he's doing like that that's talent

that has she has no never the person for the reasons

but what he he comment this is that is that well

these stories not the not the story of terror

is incredibly well yeah from it me I'm

I'm I'm a fan of the terror so is that these stories for the end of this like I'm

I'm so I'm so as it's we're that's a paranormal and this

is very important paranormal the term it means that rompe the

the laws the laws that we're not that we

when is a phenomenon paranormal in it's discave that

for more minimum that is discave because not is subject to the

laws physical that we've so it's so difficult to have the parameters well established that is paramonormal and that no

so in a dream that has effectos in the reality that is totally it's totally it's irrational

in all the in all the case is irrational now I'm saying that with that all are definitely not

for that's with a piece of that's always listen to the listen to the

story, decide for you know, if you or if no, and the aperture that

you want to have to this type of stories, but I was a not said, I can't

say that you're in this thing, but I had ideas very quick to do it

and I did it had been told what I did you, what I happened, and a

me came because it was someone very, very enfocated and with

much, he gave much credibility to perceptions because I was agudas

in the sense visual, the auditive of questions kinesthesi were very conscientiousicic

were very conscientious of all that. And where it's to be a real and there's people who's

people are people who are doing and there's a question of an echo that's you're just

you're more the literally something that's coming in front of you

and you know They're, they're where they're going to be a lot of things, and there's

no one in the house more than you. And then I understand, okay, I think it's a

thing that's, when I'm, when I'm , you know, those stories of the poors , poors

things, but I'm a lot of years, a lot of my, many years of years of so they're

really, but only only with the first that would just, okay, then

there's Or so, exist something that's that's the way in the we're in the

we're in that we're not in it's not it's not it's not. I don't think that

the reality is the so the reason so the so the so you're so much you've

to get a and the time of the exorcisms is a thing that me, we know, we're not

we're not we're we're just we're we're just I'm and I'm and this

is important and I think that that's what I'm I don't want to say to the people, because when you

going to get in this type of thematicas, revise me in your intention. Your intention is very important.

There's a part that's that's called to the dark and that's you're getting to that's making the obscurity.

Take care. Take care. My fascination in these thematicas not has to have to be with the

light of the dark. It has to with the with the buskid of a existence

more the life. And the theme specific of exorcism has been

for the characters that interact in it. I'm not I refer to a

libretto an work of the work to be real have

functions very important and that they don't talk with

these things are people that not turn to the

farand and the spectacul turn to question to things

very things they're those who are the for that's my fascination because there I think

the filter of credibility for me it's a really great but it's not the part of the part

that's that's all the about the about the relatoes and the people

you know revised your intention take care because because this this is

this phrase of Nitch that says that they say those they're

they're they're when you see the abism the

the abysmo you look at and the those that we've been here revisando

these thematic although Nietz probably not the probably not his philosophy

was a very human more than spiritual if occurs in the questions

spiritual of that you you're you're you're there's there

are there and in the there we we're

in the episode four in the girl, while she was talking, the quarter, is a little very strange,

and she's me kept being fido and me says, of something, I'm sure. In this instant that I'm

talking to them, they're talking to, and that's, and that's me me impact, because the quarter was rather than the

story of her. So, there's a sensation physical, there's a sensation ambiental.

The sensation ambient, the... No, a bit, we, we don't we're,

that you seeing here that we're that's a lot of the other we're not

we're not we're not really it's a bad I've got the time the time

when for the dimensions of this space while these people should be the

person's that this so it was rare so it and when

he and when said that was a was a thing was a

thing it was it was not just not more for this

experience but for many that's, then so, then care because if your

intention is very obscure, you're going to top up, and I'm going because in serious, in relato,

all this is great. In Vida real, no. Karina, what more you know?

What's got so? The other two stories more of the father, but he

is a more personal he he comments that that before to

get to convertice in a father, religious, he was trying to, and uses those the words, discerning between the, the well, the, well, pardon. He had a, a, a guy, was a Polish, and he's a commenter that

his work, before was, it was, it was much of, in question of , of, to, say, to be, to talk to, to tell us, what they were to to, to, to, to, a, a, a, a, a, a conversation that he has, with the, father, Polack, and he said,

that this, yeah, I'm still the gorro of that I'm in people of money,

and I'm I'm trying to I'm taking, and I'm cancee of this life, he's,

well, this time, take it's a more so, no, this, get it,

let me, let me, when you go to these places, pid, a more,

a water, and you, try to, a soda, try to not involve alcohol, and, and,

for also, that you can't you can't be a clear and you can't see,

that this that way really is to what you want to you're to inclinate or no. He comments that after one of these

junta's out of the bar and the bar and said was at the church but my

department was more near that so I would go to get to some things

then I would go to go to go to go to the he's he's

coming and he was coming into not a person with a a the measure and he

he's originator if I'm I'm equivocal of New York and he's usually in New York no do not in any

if he's he gets being fido you put one very incoo when someone really really to be

that so he said that this person no he took the look at he's he says

we're gonna we're gonna let's we're but with a voice says me chino

the pill and he said alhate no I want nothing, I said, automatically

me went to the apartment because it was the most I'm in the apartment, the door

are the door's behind of me when I go to the window, I'm see this

person who me is seeing, he's so I'm I'm put it to the

window, I'm put to do other things, I'm to come to see

to the person automatically what I'm to say to tell you the department, and say,

and say, this father, and say, The father, he says, you're saying, you're trying to, you're trying to to see,

to where you're going to incline to, and this person, to what he did understand is to the demon,

pass the time, yeah, when he's father or so, decide, he's going to go to

go to that, he said, he said, he was in a restaurant with your ex-hefa

and with a friend, is a restaurant really that is a restaurant very looos,

these places, that are They're going to the He went to the beach They're going to They're in the

Myraiser A man, a man A man A man, he's a man He gets to the Mesa of the Padre And he says, What is here?

No, that you're going to Beavis to be a father? That is my territory And you don't have anything to is there here. He said that the two

two two guys he put the pen to the question and they

said, but he was the man who got topado a last.

He was the business? Yes. And he described no. Only

the first that he said that he had the the shirt to the

thing he's a measure a yeah. Something something

he has this mirab, has this smile, but as how he's how he's how he

he's how he well, the man of the third story that

we're that's that's a fault the description of him well

you know you don't you don't you're not you're

not that I'm that I'm that the reason the

Risa Cinica the the man of the The first story that

that's that's that's the first in the episode earlier with with Louis

Martinez, there's in the one a subscriber says there's there's a story here in

my city I'm the idea that's I'm if I'm if I'm keep up because the

story you're going to the history or you're going to what is the city of the in the 70 or at

the 70 still the train of then they'd inaugurate like a new line and all the people

of the city were like in a festival they said they're that the day of the inauguration

all the people were in the and then when they were that they were that on the way's over the

carge and being a day and rying so us were waiting the way to the

way and they they were going to say, like, you're going to get to be able to get to be to be a

and so. And they said that's a mind that's very penetrant and that had a one of

a reja orreja like of a guy, he's a very cynical and that he was

he was he said he said when he said that he's he's he went

to the and he's are those who tell the history. All those. And in the moment of the

explosion, various saw the he solded the carcacadas. No. That is the first story that we

can't even he said, he said, he said the not he said the opportunity, but he he's got a

story. That man is a legend of this place. Because the people are all overh

and all right. And that this city. I'm a idea that's in Chihuahuaua. Second

history. Louis in the second the second I'm not he's

this story about this story about this man and he me says while we're talking about I'm just

I'm just I'm just about a story that we know that has to be but I'm to

say but I'll be tell me the story if I'm a friend a friend good

or a person good really really good of the value of the day of today of

now there. And it's a person that, like, he's inclined much for

being to be to be in the other. Really, is a person good. And he took a

moment in his life, in the person totally different and the people, the person,

he was to consume substances, he's to send out to the life to the devil.

So, then was because he said, and he said, because he was because he

was a something a problem with a a man of a So he They asked What was

What he He said He said He was a A man He was a He was a He was a

man a He said My bolsa My bolsa Where is my Bolesa? And then he's

He's a little Aue to the Sheolte to the right And there's

A man Very well Bestido That has No, I Have a Carve Because I

Heave a the measure and he's he said, he says, oh, no you think that

that's that's the girl, not you don't she want to you know, then she

she has that she and says, ah, well, she takes the and she

to be the she's a minute, the she's the right of the

hand of the person instantly as the instantaneously, as the way to the

carpey the carpey the and he's that instant he

he'll he'll he's a he's a he's he's he's he's a

he's a he's a middle of him heading he's he's he's not he's

he's not he's he doesn't even when all right he's just about he just

he's the reason the reason he he's I'm I'm and I

know the person nobody's he's he's there's there more than I

he's he's the see in this situation where he's under this depression and he's going to

and he's going to and then he starts to start to say to see to go to and he's going to

and when when he he's sitting and he the right and the door is that the

type and he's a little and so he he says he's he says what was

what you did that was the way you you're so you're so you're so. I know you

provoked that accident and the type of the troyd he's a start a really good a really good

a great good and then he's he's a he's he's he finally

he finally he's out of the place result that in that there was

another person that he he was he he had had

done he was he he very alterado with the sir that entered. He said,

the he said, no, no, I don't, I mean that he was a

he's, but the man he's he's the type of the he's

he's he's not, it's a man, he's a man who was a

really, he's, so this thing, this thing, he says, he's

that's and he and he present a more to some some some

kind of a man of the MIRT, but the Angel of the Wartes, you know, that's the

thing is that was like a vure and a malo. Malvado? Like, cynical, Bill,

like that's, like, yeah, that's, yeah, that's, exactly, that's,

how, how's it's the people, when the people do you're un, they're,

sadical, it, it's, it's, it's a part, like, like,

of sadism, that the the of the other the other than it's

it. So, this story that you have to be the third story that

we have this a time of that we a that when a reason, he's

a he provoked, a lot a lot of a laughter, much a yeah is

after the that's the second well, and the grises, that are so,

then this is the third. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For the

story. Of the nothing. Let's your story, Carrie. Lucy me comment

that they're they're Lucy and Robert is a house and it's

a house that has a house that has a patio but they're

to keep to keep getting to keep he some

days he's some enter one of the patio to the house, there's the the kitchen, and the kitchen, has a window to

get the patio. Pone the canycas there. All right. All right. And Lucy, me, and then gets to commentar that he

starts to see a little to one side to another. And he's a reason, and he's a pass.

That just, yeah, yeah, I, yeah, I, yeah, I,

yeah, I, I, know, , for what reason was? He's to get those canicas

for the house. I'll get those and in automatic the new he's going. Roberto is to be making the patio

months after and then you find her other canicas in the patio the catr and he says Lucy and

you know, let her out out of for favor I don't want to see kids not again

again. I was they were being they were beingulated yeah I've

I've heard of many entities that are not not a not a

lot of the but it's a person who there's that you're that you're not that they're

but it can't the time the energy and it has has taken the story

of a sombrero has talked the story of the space so

there there are there canica canica yeah the tindas

antivettes and the Well, here, no see if there's much, but in Texas and abunded.

Yes, and, in the country in the area in the area, there's there's

and there's a special that has a new new year, he does the manned to be anabel.

It's, more than Annabel, the original, he does the most of the mannedade this manned

to be spantosa. So, tell me where I'm for the mojaca. Yeah, but it

so, but, but, interesting. Look, there, that I mean I'm

I'm I'm really much in if I like the stories of terror is because me just a

tradition oral that they're that they're that have occurred or that have heard the legends

of the people of there's a there's a I'm saying, look, what you I don't

see if it's because I know I know I'm my but my

family assurua that this is a story that when my abuel was

in the was always because it was the success that he lived that marked like the

before. Resulted that when this abelel was a little many many decades,

says the he said the man that he lived in a pobrito and that he to transferdard

to different points or he was cabinand or if he was in Burr no there

was he had a he had a he had a no I don't remember if

cargues or something or carrisos or something. But if you went to get a good rata, cargabing

to get up the burrow and then they'd them to do the bus or sometimes one came to the other up and

they were going to be a work pesed, it was a hard, it was a hard for

and more consider those are some of menors of three years. Yeah they were very very habitual

to the life of camp. In the the video of the camp is very important

this the the people of a city never you're going to do you

do you're not used to make sure to make sure in the there's much rues in the camp

a little in the camp there's much vicissitudes for being the intemperia so the climate

not you can control the mosquitoes the mosquitoes etc so so so that that's

that's a way that can be a time you or so you you're

you're you're you're the you're the you're the

and for the other side so you're like this is like that's like the situation of your

around. Because not is the same in a room in a apartment in a apartment in the

you can't go to you can't be in things of the you're that's coyotes

loboes animals, insects, etc. He says that when they're in his

story is all in he's all he had considered the abel of a person in vistas

in reactions and and mention them that in these in these hires to

recover this madder or carrisos only a day they did it's something that's something that

the day of the family not the what was the what was the thing. What was

what was what was something? When they were to get to get to the

time of there there was a road there was a very great

the which no there there very, very, very, very, very, very, of those necks that no reflect the light,

a mate complete, yeah is starting obsceneer, and resalta that rock, that's enormous.

He says that the abuel is to start, because conforme the rock the rock every more

more grand. He's more great, no, because you're from a certain angle and

perspective, it's, like, as if were like, it's and it was

like if it was more more more if it the chico that's

he's going to let's let's let's let's let's let's let's

let's we're that when they're they're they're more or less

a 20 meters the burrow and he and he's to move

his patas I'm something maybe I'm quite to move

his patas wanty to be to be to be a little something to that he

not a little and they're to get to do you. At the point in the two decide

to get to the burrow to smearro and the burrow he's to runca to

get to they they're they're soported a pair of that that guy

to the thing that was that was that was he was he said

that he said that something that something he and he was to to rastral to

that's that was that was that was that was it was a not was a piece of

then. So the abel said, he was to do patadas, he got

of the piece, he was to vent peteras and he was,

he was someone who's someone who's a man, of those

times, then very aggerried, very, very, very agarried. He said that at

he said where something, he got he was he got he got It was going to the first

what they were going to do you the next to a lot of people to know what was there. It was a lot. It was a

thing enormous that was a big to be yeah that was a middle of the way that was it was a person

and was he was to have to get a interior and then there was just there no there was a there wastesro

in the way that had arastraught something that had arastraughts something was something that's

he was and then I'm that I'm sorry of that's that's that's

I don't don't have no idea I'm not I'm no idea but there many stories

in carretters in places in places that well and in some that we're saying

for a for for a cardie let me let's Marybel Maribel

Maribel has to come here to come to come one has

many many many has much stories Maribel is, what is your husband of my Prima.

It's a wife of your wife of your Maribel, you're a welcome to talk to the story.

She has been a little she was a time that I'm doing with with my Primo Victor in Canada

and she said to be friends and these friends and this church Christiana.

She said that at the first she was to see that she was all very

he was so much he was a day of the time. One of those days he said

he's he's the church, he went to do a baner. She said in the

bathroom has a spejo with spots, those focus that are around the space. As she

was a one of that was a light, was to the regadera, that was a curtain

transparent. There is. So, then she had heard she had read, she was,

like someone, a person and he said, oh, well, the

maybe it's a, well, the that he said, oh, well, is Victor, I'm going to be asthmusetra. He's like,

he's just a tonne. He's where I'm going to go, but no there's nobody. So in this, I'm going to come to come back,

and Victor, what? I'm going to do you? Let's get to get to get to me.

And you know, he's he'll, he'll change in the court, and he's that he said, is that

me just that, I said, is that, I said, I said, what? I don't

say, what? It's that I've a year that I'm going to see a

thing that's doing. Dentro of the house. And so obviously they've

been a father, or the father there, he's to have to

to get to this, but my prime after the same sombra

he was doing. No, I'm to the reason of what it's

to be to be but also, but also he's to

start to him. Then this, you remember the year? No, no. Okay.

There was a in what area where they're in this? And I don't in what I'm in the Canada.

In the area? In the Canada, very well, very well. There's a man. There's a

house that's a house that's been that's heard about many of the place for many people

that have been there. And a day that was with a new view and they were

on the television, the no, and I know that's his

brother he said that no, man, you, you, to the

a plant back to the and try us the palmittas and the food. And there's like,

no, better, go on us the pay on us the bar and do you. So she acced and

says that she says that he he goes, and where he goes, and then he does the

kind of the thing, because where the refrigerator just the light illuminate that there's like

a pair of a part of the tap, no? Then she says that she no quixosos, she wrote and he's up and where he's

sub-sue, the brother and the husband are so they're all-and- they're like a-sust-dos, and no, they're not-s-all-

the voice, so, so, they're kind of, they're like, they're and they're saying, me they're just to

get to be about, and she's, and she, yeah, know, because when you got a

he's, he's, he's, and they're so they're they're, they're like, they're,

well, in that case, that episode You already? Well, horrible. All the things And then we've done in that. And then we got

we got in the house. It was the colony. All the house of that colony had many stories. Of course,

Tonyo, if you're this is a man of Rocco, and he said, the other man of roco, and he said, the things more in the house of a

house of a person. I was there many times and me took to live them there, and me took them And it's

and the the house is there's very but what the but what I'm it's a

not a time to be in a little so we're going to the story but we're going to

come back that you have to you still that's there that's I think

one more we're we're we're to say if you yeah

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good, on the time to ask to all the family that they'd give them that they're

doing things that have been many years to be copiland and start peloteing ideas. For

that of that what more stories you have more I'm like that they're going

things but no, no, it's the case. That's good, that's yeah,

and we'll get much to have much with the yeah, yeah, and a a lot of

people, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, remember, there's,

there's, that's there's many are people, they're, they're then say,

and then say me, how to pay them, and a to the emotions, in many of the

cases, and one of the emotions, the being the person when he's not a situation,

and he's in a danger in a little, in a thing, the first is panic and

and fear. And the fear. And the is like gasoline for this type of

situations. Exactly. And also it also, the don't, or what you have you

have been, so it's so it's becomes a very difficult to terminate because the

fear is doing that that that the fact that that's occur you do more

fear you do so you don't know so you get it's with the little bit more and remember

like you like you know they're like they're in the podcast of day the day is the more

recommendable if you listen to the night and it never passed super a good

so you're listening on so you know you're a little

like a little she's a I'm don't you're you're

not you don't you're you're going to listen the podcast to

listen to to enjoy much more. Saludos, Ale. I also have passed a lot of things for to hear of

us. Yes, you know to go to the podcast. Then he was to come to tell us

stories. That's also we also we have done this time. But, well,

Kari, some story with that you want to tell you want to a

last time. They're going to go to the one of not see here about, but

the podcast has passed. The story of the Monca that's

I've been in the house of the house of the woman. Tell the history for the moment. This is the story of the

man. Let me. Okay. We're going to start. A year 2005. It was

in November. It was a little free. We were to visit the abuela. In the image, not

where she's going to put in the image, but there's there's where you know there.

And you know, don't go. For for you. For favor. No.

You don't the problem. In this, at To get to the, to the house, we're going

to visit the the Buella, the bula had problems of audition, you know, you're going to be talking

very hard for the to hear. So, in the photo that you're going to go to

see what is the door that is the right, and are the the windows with the

protectors, security, or the marco, how you want to call it. I'm

there, we were there, he had some cortinas transparent, and we were

that was the the TV was up, while the time was talking the timbre, for to see we're talking to the

on the window or to the time that we he's and he's he's preparing to get to

the and in that he goes behind behind of her now, the back of the

the corner of the only was the only was the matter, and it's so that when it's

the door not it's open, I'm to be automatically, is to

get to the kitchen to be to be who I'm there

no, I'm don't, no, she and he said, and he

said, no, he's talking with the good spirits, and

this is in years after that after the family,

me I told, I'm that the in this house passed

many, much, many things, and other of the my brother, standing 10, 11 years,

was with a father to visit the abuela. No, if he could be to give to something, to recoges something that had there. The point is that when went into my brother and papa and you can see a rea in the image, my brother, he's that there is that there is that a parted.

And papa, he said, where is, there is, and he said, and he's, and he's, he said, the other side of him, no he's not. Okay, no no did importance. They entered in the house, and the

bula had the custom of having a bitrina, and the above of the video, I had the photos of the children, et cetera. So, my brother, so percate the photo of a, of a

man, he says, is he, that is he, that he's a man, and it's a boy, that he, obviously never knew. No, and,

he, he was going to say the image, too. That was the photographia that he saw the I don't know if it was another,

but the person that's the ex-a-law is the... Is it the... Is it. Exactly. Okay.

For the people that is listening on platforms, come to YouTube for that photo, is impactant

because are socesos that are what's years of different? Oh. Or more

of 20? More of 20. More of 20. In a same place, and

related to this family that for the people that heard the thing

that's a is a terminology that's used in certain parts of Mexico, but the

equivalent or very similar is a channelizer that are these people, that in the description would be that

that in a spirit, it's like a vehicle for another for other for another for power

to be to be exactly. That is the form in that they're like they're they're

they're they're they're postura some some of some they're

talking like if were a person and not not a person and the way of the way of the

way of a channelisado is where it's where a vehicle that here it's really a

very question. My question for the question of the question is what is the difference

between a cage and a position? Because a position is when is when

a spirit into the person at the person is the type of the spirit of the

spirit of a a demon. It's a more well, no, not the spirit of a demon because it's more than a demon, which is a man. And it's a proposite to destroy the person? Exactly. Cause that with

the cagita, what I think is more to give a message. If it's not, it's not that it can't be a good. Exactly. Because, we've seen possessions of spirits human. And then, here the situation is, for

that's my doubt. What is the difference between Cajita and a position because if there's a

position of spirits human and there people who are there's that they're not necessarily to make a

certain to do a single way, there's a difference if you know, you know, you know, you know,

you know, a little a medium canalized. And right that you mention that's that the

person is like a medium and the person is like a medium and someone does a father, he took the

adolescent to see a to be a ex-abwe that he had he

he said he said he he said in what in the language or in

there were some some he know exactly that

but he he he he he he he

he because because a because a bit he a

voice he changed to a little a he

or a sometimes he he I was going to malditions to put to get him

but what he comment is the tone of voice that for more that you're a good actor

that one a voice gross is very it's very it's very difficult that someone

could do so to he took that he took that and so and so all happened

in that house so it's that it has that where when we we're

to get to when we can't spiritists that are the that's a important, not because

they're going to because they're that I'm in the same or not, I think that's real, no,

remember that my function in all these stories, simply is to give a world to my curiosity

and to describe much things. If you think you on it, that is your decision

and the that you take you the time's my recommendation is to take it

with a piece of some be prudent, not you seeres to see that the world

of the unknowed for something is the world of the uncoxon. No, they're

not being things too and then to be talking stories of all parts of the world,

of many people, having read a lot of material, including of experts, and that

you're not doing certain things that is strange. It's like it not so

different as farent some people. I'm to be with a Karena

with a story that is like especially really and I want to start with

a broce of a night of this encounter. This story occurred in New Bolion.

It's a story that the day of day of not has been

that is an situation like very very delicate of a family

but a member of the family me told me he

said me data where they'll find them but he said, but he

said, I think the people need to learn to have to know what they're

there's there there's there. This family were a father, moma

and four brothers. The papas not so they were not. The

four brothers more or me but in a certain they

had a certain union. All they all I'm not going to I'm going to

do details of that's they're they're their own and they're they're in their own

and a day and a mom's a mom's a he doesn't he doesn't

the the kids not that even though he's that's a strong because

it really really no he did the the infirmat the

disease a very and the kids they're to have

the role of the role of and very strange. The mom no can't do anything for her. Fallacious. No, not

that the papa vivor to any kind of that's saddened. Terect that she has done to her mom. The mom, yeah was a great, and apart the infirmat that he had been to the sir, but if it was very strange, the reactions of him, in less a month, there's a woman

and then, the children are in front. And so, the kids offend much and say, for that no it affected. You, you you're in other person. He said,

then you have a second front, it's a matter, and now that's a man in less of a

time, you are being with someone, they're feeling very offended. But they started to

not to know things strange. Papa, not the same. No important that

that's with this person, not is the same, he's the less, says,

when we going to visit in group, Papa, not is the He's

the conversation and the woman. This woman is a very

eloquent, she wants to give with much authority, many the many people,

even we know and we not we don't not some the

children, and many of those they're in many

a institution very a very that they were not

they they to the papa and even they're offended they respect. So if the sir,

wants to be with the woman, then we're who are we don't know to come to things

quite more strange. And it occurred that one of the daughters decided

to go to the house very when the father even not retired

in the job and it's supposed that the she

also when when She's a little bit of The Mala Relation that actually has the family at the

root of this woman in this house. But it's top a lot more strange. And is that when he's in

the room and he starts because he wanted to get to get to get a time to see a

back, at the door, there's the sombra of the moma being visdally

but with an aura sumament a malle a woman. A sombra. But if if you

put you had a mama and it was the Silueta, like of my

mother. Tal qual I'm a malabola. The chica, the good signora, is parted

in the fear, much more a lot, sher, the eyes, and where he's able

and when a adult, and it's going to go and it, he's going to go and the

other one of the other one of that's some that's some

there's there's the two brothers of the four that's but not what they're not we're not

we're not we're not we're not we're not just like you're not you're so it

result that when they're that case that's a thing that's that's that's that's

the second the fourth his his he's a lot of some I'm not I

don't say not I'm not so people are people are some

know things. They don't do services, nor do you do, but as he knows he knows,

he knows, he knows, he has a son. He's got to, and he's never he has said,

for favor, orientem me. No, no, does this person, of what did you know,

he said, but, concluded two things. The senior, that's with

your father is a brute, and he has a brother to do father and she

maybe she had to do with what what he happened to your mom and then then

they're not quite not is a that's talking about you're talking

you this person at the final notice that every that every they're

they're not he can say you can't say you can't say

somebody that's I mean so if before not had no no

there's no not there's communication but they're they're

more more in the house looking a space and when act

that's that's there there's and the and the thing the

she's a situation that not exactly that she

go to the one she she go the

she's the city the the he he he's

he he he's and then then then says, for

favor, helpen me, saken me from here. He's a woman that's a kind of

really, I'm not I'm going to think all the day I'm like this moment.

They're in that's putting a substance in their food, but it's very rare

that in less of 24 hours the year is well, so it's also,

as it's something, so it's also is of another indole, no?

They're all all all of the accord in that has got to

that person of the house, the children get in the court of she's they're in

a lot of things related to the bookeria. The cajones are full of

many things. Bellas this bellas books consignitos photographs of persons

that you have seen in any particular picture the the

thing he was he he was he didn't no papa look

what we don't you know I don't I don't want to I don't know. I can't clear that this

senior has something. So we're going to get to get her to get her and they get a family

of the young, and they say no, Papa, come to live with us and we

we're doing to help to confront the situation. And he says, no, me sob

they're over the front of this year. Because when the woman after they two months

after the socese that the woman had had and the sir is

also installed in the house and the father and the other

is like a zombie not a know they exactly what was the but they're saying

to say that we're we're doing and we know we're it's a and of

it's and it is very possible that not we're not because

if before I was I'm the before after after

after after the I'm so I'm not I'm not I'm

I'm in any detail. Cangue here many things for you know,

but they say, that the people know that they have to have to be good at who they're

doing. So, Karina, you know, the story? Very very. How other

you passed? Super. Yeah. Super. Sure. That's really, that's

good. That's good. That's again. So, let's go to do you

do you do you do you would like we would have been in another episode

with the good Karina is part of the family noturner so if you have a little

about them we're going to be there there's you know you're not you're all the

things? Very good so so Karina I thank I'm very for having been able to

be more more more later and for you for you this thank you

a monite a minute a time and that don't don't How was it?

Oh, I was it very good.