HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - EP:28 ORÁCULOS PARTE 2

Episode Date: September 26, 2022

Hoy en HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE, les presentamos: EP:28 ORÁCULOS PARTE 2, un episodio muy especial con la colaboración de Mina Martins.Este es el PODCAST en donde vienen a contar y escuchar, historias paranormales, experiencias sobrenaturales, creepypastas, anécdotas extraordinarias y sucesos inexplicables.Yo soy ICE MURDOCK Y te doy la bienvenida a Hablemos de lo que no existe.

Why do you call them Bajo Astral and Altonstral? Is the level of existence? So,

it's supposed that are like nine levels. And to be the same where is where is the

demons. Ah, seven, pardon, seven levels. It's supposed that the most

down to be the back of the people, the men, the entities oscura, and then

there's a little what is, this, this whole this role of the types of

things people, and then the duend, the sadas, and all that's roo.

So it's supposed to we're we're also to be other other's little bit

more than more than the other and then that's all the whole is a role.

But all we put it on... So, so in these astrales it's on a dichotomia

black, or no? It's so the below is or the of the the above is

well? No. No. It's is the natural that, or so

not. Not not. It's bad. It's the natural is like.

So, So, so, the metaphysical have much this, the good

and the bad are concepts that we're in this existence but there's there's a that we say

that's malvada, that's, so, his energy, they're in, vibran with the of the aback

with the mass, the violations, et cetera, all that's that people. And so, and so,

that people when you don't stay in this plan, so it's to be to that

astralia, and there are going to be connected to their energy. They're in their natural so.

Exactly. And that's an energy that's a way to come to be able to do you know, to go back

to learn the lesson and things to do you? What is your life? What is your

life? So, what's the thing? I don't know. I don't have a definite. But I think that

what is what is a, how I could say? This life that we're we're just like an, it's like an

apprenticeship, it's like an education spiritual. The meta is the elevation spiritual. But there are people that's going to get like,

so, no want to be the spiritual, it's the material and the sexual and the money, and, and yeah. God is the,

so, so, not mean, it's like, the sexual and the money is bad, or also. God is

the world material, God is the world spiritual. So, it's an equilibrium of those.

but basically our existence is to get to get a ser superior a god, as a point as a point, as a lot but the majority

of the people we're all over the people we're that's involved in the person of tal pelado and that I'm this car and my life

just a limit to that and that's reality and yeah and he's and he's and he's

and he's more involved in this and what is in the reincaration Well, I think Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

I could say that I'm a level At level personal I think Yeah, I mean Deve to be something That's going to That's going to

When I think the reincarnation It's in persons Or in almas That we're We're going to We know, It's to say It's supposed

That in every Life you Apprendes Something To get to Like a odious or a or a

other so we're we're going to we're going to be why in not a thing we're

like we're what we're and the and you put to investigate for example regressions enynosis

all this where they're to start and that there's pastas and that are you're doing this therapies

then you you're okay so that's that's that's that not all

those cases necessarily are that no there It's that the mind has a power creator

impressionant and there is where this question with you you have the letter of you have the person in front and you

have to connect with that frequency with that that energy that you to you permit to say to the person

what is for it. How do you how distinges what you of what is your if I'm

if I'm explain with the question yeah for example more or less to what you refer you

when I when I'm the lecture of tarot is like you are you're just tell

you know your name your your name your I do

make a I'm a make the talk the talk the tarot that

because to the way is it's like it's so much so it's

what he is that subconsient of that seven and the

cards and I interpret the message okay and

when when I see the message, you know that they're to come to get to the

first of the like, it's like you're in a little voice that you're a little

that's these cards represent these are and you and I'm saying, well,

this is, and there's, and there doesn't make the question, I'm, this is the

money, this is the money, and this is a so, I mean, and so, it's of my family.

When there's people of when there my family, that my person, I'm, let me

the let me the letters. I go, no. To my my friends my friends are going to

do you go to because there is going to be to be able to what I feel to you, what I'm

a fear to do you. And it's a lecture that you have done ever when you're

when you when you you're you're you're not of the lecture? Because the

message comes of other part yeah it's more of the

imagination. The not you the zone that the the zone that's stimulating

moving is another Yeah, because when I do I'm, no I'm, I don't know how to explain it, like, if I'm my own own my own own

these words and I'm saying them to be you're saying, you're saying you're saying from or from it's interiorly? It's internal.

And you're in the zone of your head or in your or in... It's here. The part of the part of the part of this.

Yeah, like for a second like it's like like it's a cussurro. And, so, and,

like, like, like, many, like, I'm, I interpret the

message and so do you do. Okay, those words, clear, what sense is the that's the word, the

good, the touch, the sound, the no, there's no, it's not a not a flavor, or a sensation

energetic? Sensations, yes. For example, there's people that I ask for a little, and

me start to know, and I'm to know, I'm, I'm to be, visualizing to the people,

and I'm to feel like I'm trying, the pain the of the knee the knee the like you

dole the like you like you're like you like you're like you exactly exactly

something that something is a kind of a kind of so I'm so that that's the

way for my my woman I'm I'm me the time

and I say me and I don't no no it's a person

you're a person kind of you know what I what I do you what I

do you is a interpretation of what I want to exactly Exactly.

But okay, there, yeah no is the voice in the same zone. There's the imagination. Because it's like,

this message is like, this message is what I'm doing this about you about it. Something I'm, this is something

that I'm doing you know, you know, is something that I'd say, you know, so it's where I'm,

so this, no, this no, this is an no, how can you say, me,

I'm, it costs, the work, the, the question effort. No flue. No flue.

No flue, exactly. It's the way I'm like, well, this card is this, and this is this, well, this is this. But it's like with other people that I know I'm

going to get to pass, pass, pass, pass. It's like if you could you linear your mind, your spirit, and your body, and that would

make it to some permission pass direct and it's a flow of a and when you're with a person certain, and then the

mind is the the process the information. It's the love that sierra or the amistat or

what you know, if there's so there's people who are people who are people that are people that are

people who are people who also there have got there's very very far as so there

so there there's people who don't know so yeah so people that you

no I don't say you know no no no no me I said or you

are very very very predispu to this Like, like, like,

you know, like, chantageer or something, or how's to say, enger, uh,

fraudulent, no? Uh-huh. So, I said, you know I'm not connect to

what? What, what? There's, so, well, and, so,

in other occasion, we're, we're in other, in other frequency. And there

people that say, no, no, no, and then, then, but what,

but what's, and then, so, like, they're, like, they're, there's

of the people that you know you can't know you can't because what's the they're playing

they're in the moment to start so far as resistance because they're a need of the

invasion of the invasion invasion or they're having control or they think that

is a chatanerian that that's pure a and then you know

when you start to say you or what so they're they're

so they're so they're so I'm a year

before a before a a that he's a man, he's like,

oh, this, like I know like I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm like he's

like, oh, I'm doing to attend to someone so I'm then I'm yeah, I'm going to

my cardet and here there's a little go to my studio and he's a

and he the lecture and so in the lecture me came out of the person is casta and that

I'm another mante and I mean a macho Mexican so you

so you you're you're you're cased and he's a man and this and this

and this. I mean, he's never the he's ever he's that he's information.

So, yeah, invadied that person and he was just and he said, no,

no, yeah with that and he paid and he went, I mean, but

you know, it's because it's that's the kind of the person has a kind of

I'm to get to get the magic and the like, and they're like you

know, I have my barrier psychological and you can't, and others is that's a so it's very

curious. So, so for that's not just you not just having access to the actual,

it's the predisposition of the person too. But it's you connected to him and then

then after you're that's where it's where it's like an triangle exactly. It's like

it even though, I know I see that I'm going to be seen that's very

fantasticious but it works in vivo. I've done in vivo of lecture of a lot of a page

that has been to be with these things and I'm at say you're a name your name

and a name and what question. So, standing I in vivo, saying,

I'm reading a start of comments, with a little of the photo and get a

information to the people. But what you do you is a technology

that we we know that we we're we're how much it's a lot.

How much you to desgastra the lecture? Bastant. Yes, if it has a hard in the sense of that depends also

the person. So, if the person comes with much suffering, and anxiety, and the more, if you don't put a space

of a barrier mental, that was what I was at the first, I absorbed a much of that, I was, I

had done all like, why I'm feel like, I'm feeling those problems at some sometimes,

of things of things of money, etc. That's that's me pass to me.

And then you, every Every time I do keep like I, I, I, I,

I do, I'm, I'm, like, so, like, for not absorb

those, uh, energy, is, is, it's, it's a figure,

that's like, it's like, like, that's, like, there, but no you know,

it's, there's, you know, you need, a type of protocol posterior to put

to be there, and if you don't you do you exactly, it's like, when you

when you're when you sexual with a person Uh-huh So, so it's a vincal energetic

that they have to pass up to five years for that's for that so that's, for that's so it's so that

no, is that I'm that I'm that's thinking what he's something of the style, because you're

connected with the persons with the people with those that are the sexuales from there.

Okay, that's you can't make some changes emotional and mental because

in a certain manner, not you're not you're doing the person with the person with the person is connected with the person

is connected with a person and there's like a there's a carid a chain of a

super red. It's a super red so at the final you know I mean we're

we know there's like there's a point that there's we're a we're just we're we're all

we're all together the material this is energy in a in a

in a been more Lento. The atoms are in movement but so they're

so there's these things physical that we can't talk. All is energy and all the final

of the thing is the same element in different versions. For that is much the

Ditches that we don't know that we don't know scientifically scientifically comprehensive

we're we're we're a car energy. This is car energy? that you have

an energy in your and it's the that makes that it's that's the same and that's the other

that's, no. Okay. A be, Mina, we know, we're going episode.

That's, that's, that's, for many, many, many, many, things, I'm,

I'm, I'm, just this point of the episode, then, subscribe, comment,

if you're talking, if you're listening, and then, and then, and, remember,

to, we can, we can, we're we don't you lexionable, nor we say in what you're a space

abiot in the people that the people that have been in those people that are the things that's

they're coming to come to them, then you can't you can't think you

in what you think that you're not a problem, only here you're having more stories for

there? Sure that for there there's another history. Fidateate when I'm started with the

Well, of the person this that I know I Um, um, um,

the of the first story, the first was, pass around two years. Yes,

more or then. Then I came the pandemic, and I um, I'm

um, um, um, uh, some people to do, um, um,

the time of things paranormal, and then so, um, how's the I started me, I found, I

found I started to with people of tarot, people of this, bruchos, and the other. Okay. Okay. I, I passed a history

very curious, fichate, that I no, no, I don't, the idea of the, how's it

called? Of the repercussion? This, this, this, this is going to be a good lesson,

but, you're quite much the things that come in bazares, the things used,

the things that pertaincealed to someone because if have a vibration energetic and I've in person,

in a vivabos and you've lived in a vivor boss well and now it was a story

scabroza yeah, it was a story that I'm really difficult to believe the

first first first first I'm like you imagine imagine that you

want to a you do something you do you do you

you that's that a story super dense. I know, I know going to sound very Annabel

and very the classic movie of American with a ruby with a stetotos grandes because it's

in humor but here this this rubia I'm very fanatica of the terror I'm

much the own dogatica and the and the thing I'm wasa at the center of the city

of Monterey that was in the Calle Garival and it was there there. I'm very

to get me to to be at the barrio and I'm like, like, like, like, like me they're like,

and they're like, and they're so, and this this time, that's, so I'm,

see a new year, the mucke, of the muckees of the old, no?

Yeah, this is, this is of the eight years, because the cabo he was

something, so, so, so, so, so, it was, it was

an old, but not an old, a one a

talking about of cabo synthetic and of porcelana very pretty was a really a

so it was very very similar to me I mean I'm like because it was like

to be wherita and I had a he's a my this is a mini

me but I go and I'm the I'm the

my my my my my my my my

my my I'm had been the last the

one two three four four four four years almost

five I never I never I thought never felt like I never I think I how could say

like that's like that was chocky or so nothing when I'm into the world

spiritual I'm I'm going to take therapies to amplify a little through

the meditations all the on the perception with this that I'm doing tarot and

there's there's there may there can do their can't their canals

of perfection. Obviously is a perception, a question a question a question guide, a person,

I have a person. I'm a friend who's doing to do this. So I go, well, then to my time, for the

second, that me could help to help this. It's like a, a role

there to do you know, so, well, I'm, went to my house, I'm,

was the man, I was all the other well, oh, yeah, the second when he

took about the person, well, no, I feel like me, almost even me blocked

to the social and I'm so, I'm like, what's, what's, what's, what's,

what I'm, so, what, what, so, so, so, then.

So, then, then, after, after four months, then I, then I'm,

he said, and I'm, he said, what, what, we did, we did we,

we did it our, a, to the therapies that you're doing because, I mean

if I'm interested like, I'm going to help me to help me to get to be in my house,

he said that he said that he was in the neck. So, obviously, not of the muke.

Of course, for that not, he didn't say, that he, he, he, he didn't know,

in what sense is spiritual or, or I know what I'm so, so,

so total, that since he made the therapy, he said that he said that he said,

he said, I've had the moke of four or five years and never me have

never been a question, no, is that I'm look, check it because try it's

he's a little, he said, he said, he started to be a thing to so,

so things very dense, very and that he had to get to get to to get to

get to to get a person of that that's he had to be in my

car. And I did I'm and I said, well, okay here the

this here the seniorita like I'm my, how and more of much

people that I've known in events and other I'm going to do you know, I'm going to a photo to the muke

and a five people and of different parts, not just like to get in Monterey. Two are

of Montrerere one was of Montclova another is the city of Mexico and another was a more of a

public Dominican. Okay. And he I said, oh yeah let me, you see something

you know what in the muke perceives that there's something in the world of

the magic and all of that with photography, you can perceive entities and what I'm not to be the person.

Well, not me they're, the five people are they're saying, if it's an entity

to get into. So, I'm like, I said, wow, I was, in my house, but I,

I said, well, but what type of entity? There was two vertientes, one,

that was a one, that's, and that's me said, you know, you know, that's to attend it

yeah, so, because you're robbing energy vital. Segun this, the theory of it was like, like, it was like, consumed of my energy

vital, or of my other, or of my other things, or of my, so, like, so, like, you know, you know, you're

to have to have been much care. I mean, I'm to make a, I'm going to get me, I'm sorry, I'm going to, I'm going to,

I'm going to, you know, you're going to not, the different, me said, you know, there's a,

so, there's a, so, so, it's, so, with a laco and with with a grass of cerd and seven

nudes and then thenvolver and enter her and others of that in a river and that'ser and then I said, no, I don't

want to give problems, I said imagineate where he does something, he said, because if you do you do this

something, he's going to get to you what you have the entity, and three of those coincided that this

muke had been used used in a pacto satanic, and that was a family and that was for

a thing very very very so how in my house could have this?

And that's that's so there's so there there's there's that after I'm

that's certain sensations of a sometimes of depression or something or something I don't know

and much had to be too that's I'm well what I'm

so I'm what I'm yeah I'm you know I'm like it you know I'm

I'm afraid or me I'm never move there the Bipperer

no I know a person between my contacts that's all this type of magic wika and so they get in them

in magic in the bad but it's very respectable I respect I respect to all type of

person that they can't like they they can know their every

every so I'm I'm so I don't I'm not I'm I'm

so it's so much I'm so that's that's the life for this

I'm this I'm this one I'm this I said, I the fact, I don't want to

work with entities. No, I want to have entities in my house. He said, how you see, you know, then you're in

that's not. And in that's what you know, you know, I said, you know, and you know, you know,

you have to a kind of sort of sort of, I'm a kind of I'm sure, I'm sure

that you do you, you'll use to do you do that you're doing and so he's,

he put a little if it was a laco in the quay, no, and so it was the way in the way that you

can't do you know, and so you did some that's a thing? I think my case was

that my case, I mean, I don't how explain when there are certain symptoms,

when a certain symptoms when a time is a place, and you're to know, you're a bit a bit more

more rossus. Like, you see, you know, if you had an air in the eyes when you're in the eyes, no see if you're that's a sensation.

And you start like to note all to do with a sort of a sort of and two, you know, I remember that I had some

that's the way of that I was like, that I was like I was like, I was like, I was like, I'm trying to be done

all the day and the and that's some symptoms of that type of entities because they're like

coming of your energy. So, they're all they're they're they, they're

they're they're and the The way that I could do it was to give it to another person. So, if you're compran in basars or

compramed things in some situation, a little a manoeia or something, let me let me be in the preference, no?

Or, they've got to I've got to four years, imagineate. It's too weird. Fegate,

apart of that in that history, I have an friend who is YouTuber and also does like these

ROND Terror. I'm very fan of those in- has a community there's a community there

so I've had been I've done we've done a special of a short metrager so I'm

so I'm like I'm going to share the history no, of what what I'm

going to and I'm I go and I'm going to let's I'm part to get to let me say

I'm going to let's I'm a photo for that the muke for that put

in your video and how it's for the audience of them

let us, I mean, I'm the photo and in the video, I mean, when it's

when it's a photo of the I'm to get a a lot of you know, I'm sure,

it's in your video, you know, I'm going to see it. Wow. And you have the

photo of the muke? Yes, I can't see, yeah, I'm going to see,

I'm going to you, but so, I mean, I mean, I think, I'm, I'm,

this question, this entity, no-se that was, I'd have to go, for there, this

a question very but I go I never know the right, it was it was it was

like incredible that's so on the corroborer with a so with different people, imagineate you

so I'm like piding the opinion of the doctors with five people different people different

cities, different countries, that not they're not so that so that's and that

all get to that I'm not that I'm that I'm what I'm to say what I'm

that the first that I'm not I'm a situation so, no.

So, think the those don't are different because then in the two you, it's the

connection with the person for a new thing for a energy and sapiencia. But that

that's so, that you can perceive, you know, is that every kind of has a

different. There are people that have where other people that have to talk

with entities, with persons that you don't are people, that

Dependent in what area you, I suppose I have the theory I'm not sure I'm sure sure depending of the areas of the cereo

that are more active or at the most all the most all the all they're doing it's I know

I know people I know people that I'm and you say that organs of your body are more

convert nothing more without without many many many dones many don't many don't

very very people also, that you know, I mean, I'm going to see that's

very surrealist, but, when you're when you're to start in the world spiritual, and if you see, they're

in this type of realities, they're going to say, what impressive. As much a me

happened. One of the stories more that I have said, and it would be

easy to discard for the strange, but just there was something in the form

in the way in the form in it's is true. Mauricio is having a

dream during a time it's important to know that Marisio for the general not is his own

so he goes and he he's up and he's a yeah. He said he said he said like

well I've some some I've got some a little no, it's nothing

recurrent his his own the dreams that the years that start

the not you know like a recreation of the life. It's a like if were the

codeos of the matrix. Okay. But not in that red or in that photo that's...

That was a a recipe of a not so yeah. The recital in the the matrix.

Oh, so no that's not, that's not servible number of 3403. For that

be it. There's Mina has Mina has information difficult to

obtain. That That's what I'm going to see. Fidgette that it starts to see, it's a

these codes, but in a color coffee and the front was rogiso. And the codeos

it was like, it's like if it's like, it's like, that's that's moving

and the type of letter me recordable more to when I saw as I've

seen, it's the part more rather of my I was the why I thought about of that's the

question. They're going to pass the days and these letters are going to move and they're like if if they were

being letters that when I present attention to one, me he gets a place. And in the places, I'm

to see things rare, I'm to see a person who are people who are people who are getting bombes.

But all the things were like not positive. They were poor things negative. poor things negative.

He says, me starts to make a very un-tanky but, of the other ways, I'm in

the range of no me never a really, simply it's a strange, extrano,

extrano, and a little uncomfortable to be that. But Antier had a dream,

that's he said, he said, this figures changed, and now are some some of

these are not some they're not being and they are part they're

simply they're moving to one to another and they're in a way

they're in a question and they're they're in and they're in me me and say no do you

do you do you don't want to you're going to get to get to you know I'd be my imagination

but is that I don't have that type of imagination I don't do that I'm a

person creative and the my not is the art the my not is not to

be this and what he's he's in some way he's in some way he's

is doing connection with something that is making that's being transport to a point, but that

that's that's connected with him is conscious of the connection. And he is he

was using in a certain way. I think it's there that maybe

the person in, if I'm there's a person that's that says that I think we

know that we know we're not we're we're not we're so,

so about when you're a person like you says that not is creative that

imagination, to do do things, or any of this type, well, is it's

a rarro, no? Yes, I think there's the possibility I go to that he

there's that he has access to certain dimensions or certain moments or certain, it's like a

kind of a publica. Well, we're going to say it's in the meditations guiadas,

much about to that has been that's, so that's, so, that's I'm a question

but it's a kind of a mental. I mean, I'm I'm a lot,

I'm a lot of that this person, for there has a ability to connect us to connect us

to make sure, a moment, to, to the, how can be to the registries to the cachicos,

these that's that's what they're saying, no? And it depends much of how the person

the person he's, um, here, I think that is a special of sensibility

that the he might He never, he's not he said much in grads of autism. There's a

certain grads of autism, that has certain canals of different, the people autista is intelligent,

or so, am I'm not power, and they're so they're so the reality of other way

that is that, and in what we're going, the reality that we know, is all, it's all

a, a little a lot, so it's what we can let us make, our

exactly, for that's the people that get to yahuasca and that's

that's not those those are the ones that are the people are the typical that you

see that you know when they were when they were in the mental information that's not

we're not not we're not we're not we're not even but we know we're

so I think that this person has a to connect us with these places and with these moments and with these people. It's valid. Why not? As you how you passed with the moke,

that's an object. You think that there are places that, are in a certain manner, are in contaminated or are or are there or are there someone that's there?

Yeah, if there's, there's a lot. So, um, depends. Or so, there are places

there are many reasons. Since the case they were rituals there, abriar in portals, invoked something,

they were an brewery, or if there's, or if there there's a lot of,

the location geographical, there's, there's many, many possibilities for that a place

that's a lot of, and the entities that are, they're just from

from phantasmas to to, I, I'm, I'm I'm explaining.

There's a lot of, there's much, there's much possibility. And, this, there's, there, there's a way, to make, like, to make, like, a lot of, you know, that's what. And here's what you're going to. Fiatty, that's there. Ferey, there's two relato, related to, a, to two persons of here, justly of Monterey, that are in torno to places. Okay. No, so, if you knowces to Ivan Femat Lamole.

No. He is a locutor. Okay. It was here in Monterey And since the initials It was very known in Din 99 for having a

program that was called The Manrique's. Okay. The point is that he always has been on the

questiones but a day they they're now that now that's now that has been

something, hey, you've passed something, and he's just I've lived a thing, so it's

was when we're doing we're in the house of the tubus if you have heard

the legend, no? That yeah, the day of today Yeah, it's Constra Nye Yeah, I

Kisia Yeah. Although it's contaminated, it's important. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's interesting.

He says that he was, when he was when he was able to not, you know, no, he was done

to do that all of all, and the legend was in turn to this that was that was

he came to fall yes, and the spirit rondable. Well, various people,

no, so some were, some some some salve some salvae,

yeah, so, there, there are many different in the history in that one has more

and there's a little. Typical chism of a man. Exactly. Exactly.

He says that he went in and he went with a friend and one friend and one

about two two two parichitas so he then he he's got with a part of the

play with the kind of the ambient and then he says you know I'm

I'm really I'm said for what? It's so it makes

that the other boy, like, we're like, and that's a very incoomod because we're doing this is, how we're going to

see, how are we doing it's what you're doing? And then the chava he says, no, man, we're going to get here

other rata, and it's, the fear, and the experience, the adrenaline, at the final to the end of all the end up,

and then he says, well, we, we've got, we've got, we're sadat more, and just a

second after, and I'm, and the instant, it's, it's, the voice of the

friend, that he He said, they're almost in the last time he'll be the first

he's in the first piece of we're going to us. We're going to we're going to us and then he said,

he's he's got over there into. They're there's there and there again.

So he said that there was a entity and he was he was he was coming the attention

and he at the final I'm he was he could have been a person but it

but it's he's that in the program of the Manrique he had a

companion. I don't see if still there's the program. There's there there's

the audience. And I'm still in the people who's a boy who's a boy this type of the morocco.

Until a few years, thanks of you're family nocturam I'm

that he was the house very famous in Apodaka. The house of Apodaka?

Yeah, of he and his wife in a series. Hauntel Latin America

of Netflix. Yeah, I'm I remember of them. Well, Well, that I think that the

History of Latin America has changed a little for at the cream. Exactly. But,

well, the history of him, after that's more more strong. But it's but it's

very indigest. I'm going to talk details. I recommend to see the the show Latin America

in Netflix, because it's a big of the thing. But a great rasker, what they're

they're going to get to those children are that there's a man that's

a man who's not a lot of the he's a bit of a person, and they're going to

do you get to get to get a in the kitchen no, no,

he does that not the importance, until that's that's that's

so that's so, so, he, he, he, he was in the

time, and when he came on the days, and she says, I don't

there's So it was very rare and he was And I'm And so And then I'm gonna be And I'm gonna And I'm gonna

Yeah, I said this Yeah, Yeah, it's totally Yeah, To create us down So, then we're

They're gonna And the photography, if we're And in the photography, see two sombras enormous in the

cell. Then someone us said, is that here are two entities and a two entities

are very malvadas and They were Ceres Human, but right who

know who are the and they're and they're to get to the way for the maldades

that they're so they're the house. And the that's that's going to

and that is the victim of those two all the time. So, so they

have to move finally, so they have to go to go to

all right until when when a Halloween a person go

to a a little in your house and the the exosa like evoked many of the things that

had been like it like they're a lot of not they're not a possession but infestation or

the symptoms that they were in possession of infestation and postation of infestation and position. So,

so they've lived a situation very strong and they're not seeing the program, no see

this, they're so they're what years after what I'm here, for example in the

last in the I think this this lady, the woman, the wife, is a writer, I mean,

I feel like, I'm a talk to be to be with her and I'm a pair of events, and I'm

that's a artist, so I think that's a very great, and obviously is susceptible to all that

so that's so that was a major was a source of a source of energy for this

type of entities. And so some indigatives that can be a millionaire, not is

necessarily someone that who lived the year past there.

We're talking of many years and the zone geographic and all this. Now, about the

of the children phantasm and all this, it's it's really there really no there's

there's there's there's that they're not. You're not. You're that no. Because,

because, look, you know, to be a thing one of you know, I've

learned with much people in the media or what I've consulted, have consulted,

The phantasmas no is in in the sense the essence of the spirit of the person So I'm going to put like So there are

three different three levels of existence That's the Alma Or Pardoname The spirit

The Alma and The body So So it's It's like If it's It's a

video game We're Our Our reality This We're The Personage

that you You can't The You're the characteristics of this world, of this dimension, of this

the world, is like an avatar. So I am I product of the mediums that me influenced me for me inpeenarm to be in pein'arm

this is my avatar. My personality, what I like to eat, how I like to bein'am. That is the avatar.

That is the personality or the ego also that the ego, also the is the body, the body

physical, and is the person, that's in the on the screen that in the is playing to me,

we're going to this dimension. It's supposed to our soul, the person, the person, the person is, the person who's and then it

is supposed to our, our spirit, the, the, the, the, the,

it's supposed to get to be, many times not they go. So, but the, the, the,

the people that the people that say that are the people that are like if it was that avatar

that's that's that's a avatar that's with the people, with the

pendenties of the person that falles. But the Alma real yeah no is there.

Yeah, he went to the point or got to reenace or what's the theory

a lot of a metaphysic that mannique, that manages panormal. So it's

like if were a fragment of the person but not the part essential

fundamental. Not necessarily in a fragment it's like the video game.

It's the personage that you know the the media the media how it's it's

a grab in this in this plan. But still still have part of the

conscience. Regularly. Is that some, no? No. But no so.

This person can have, let's say with an intelligence property.

Uh, but that's going to get to get time. So there

is eventually. Yeah. Because there people that does

really very very very very very very are

or those that the other that's those people, that's in the other people, and they're

so, so they're in a lot of for the for so there there's that you

know, I'm like, and I'm where, and so things that is the

theory is that is like a gravation, something that's something that your life, but you know,

that's what they're in the fact, that's, really, really, really, really,

they're really, really, and in the case of the people, not

a time that grand in the world that's So, they're

that when when you see a a child, there's another entity. The theory says that's

another type of entity that can be a demonio or a thing. Nothing of transcendency.

No. No. Normally it has been to be an entity or a negative.

Yeah, so, it's very rare that an entity of transcendency want

to move in ambitos in places where there obscurity, where there's

that type of things. So, no is necessary. The spirits, the consciences elevated or the spirits elevated,

they're in contact with people that's dedicated to meditate, with people that has other perception. But if you

start you, you know, you're not, you're going to have to be careful, over the case of the

children, that me more like these entities that want to get, to get energy

of the people that are there are there molest and the or the that's the

or the that's a that's a very a theory that has a problem

in the world esotelical in the world of the spiritual of the children

because if a a a person a personality of

time as that's given I'm that can't give

personal personalities to personalities but but for the

regular this would the exception more than the constant. If there's

if there's a excephemy a new deceptional the rule, more than the reason. Yeah,

and what what's said the phantasas not that is that the person and that is not,

the essence yeah was the the soul real of that person yeah not here

simply what was the world in this world wow wow so that

so that the that the that's that do the that's can't

be that's a phantasm. I don't know it's the person. It's the conscience that's generated here and that is a lot of people who are being aferrous, or who are in their viennes, or, or momas that, that, that, that, that's that they're also, that's, I mean, there's a other gas, so, for example, the moms that

mureen, at the moment of paris and all, there, there, there, is much the theory of that the spirit, and they're there is other case. But, for example, the majority of the people, well, yeah, so, it's what what's it's

and that that's a gravation of that's that's that's a lot of

that's they're in people who are they're in the person that's the same the same

the arm that they're going to what I think I think I think I think that

that's a moment that they're doing so much they're so you're so then then so

those mediums that are can't can't connect them they're they're they're

connecting with who I think the channels can canel

more higher. I mean, I think the mediums canalis a other, to know,

a level more, because there are some people that are doing that there's there,

I think there there's a lot of a variety or so, I mean, it's that they're

being to the entity of the phantasm or so, or if

the person, so because I mean, much people have that's capacity

to back to other plans to these intelligences or spirits,

like it does it I really I thank you I'm honest I mean this is the point is super difficult because if our perception normal is

limited in this camp is even more we have to be very interpretative of this so I'm so I'm saying well it

can be and it can be so really it's that it's that it's that I'm saying there's that there's many

there's there's like the people because every one is it's it's very soberbio

to say that someone is expert in things spiritual suburbio I'm here that's because is because

is because it's because it's the thing that's the thing that's something that has been various people

people who have many people who have been different don't know and a constant is that really

the person not can't have a security of the 100 in nothing no this is

interpretation and what that's that with the time and the expertise like, is equal.

The footballist that has a a footballist a Christiano Ronald, a Messi, get a moment in that the

people are the not the question not a question yet intuitive, the don't me move, what is what

the whole, the brain, the brain, so the process a certain way, those who have

certain those who have done, if they're being, being guided, and they're being

being a certain way, they're getting a a lot on a lot of a

the comparison I don't think that's it's a example Ronald and the I don't know

I'm in football but notice that you don't know I'm these people are talking about

a little a game of reglas physical and that that is something but

the I say that no that I see that the that's you're you're you're

you're not with a plan of that's that you can't

you even So, we're ignorant. I mean, we don't we're

the universe. The universe tangible. The universe that's, the, the one we know

we know the man. How someone can say, that's that's

and that says, no, I mean, I mean, I mean, I'm a way,

are the same, I'm very experienced in the sense of that they're

there's many but you know really what's what's what's

what? Yes. You know? We have Exactly. That's, that's, no,

nobody knows that's going to know, we know, we know people who are people who are, we're doing

we're going to a criteria, but we're going to know until that we're going to get to be in this plan,

and every one the person human, I think I think we're we're going to accepting many times

that there's that we're things of that we're going to have to have to have to

have to learn to live? Because there are people that they're in the

no, I want to know because it's the life and they're in the

idea and they're in the idea? For to be for doing and they're

going to understand. That is a humiliation that the human that we're to learn.

I think I'm me, Mina. To start this conversation, you

have some one the question, the what the question with

the I think there there a one, a, one, a,

a, this these this, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

like, I'm, I'm, not, I don't do contact, I, no,

I don't, I, I, intention more than to support to the people, for me

lectures, for me, of, questions, um, To, give them to

the people with good lectures, that's that's good to be with things positive

and that they're like, but as being related to you know, you topas

with people that think that you're doing that's things, so, then

then I took a person, a one person, a I've had had been

allowed with her because she, I've had made many many

many many many my two of the morning. And I

say like, okay you you're good, what's what's the

thing, me, what the is that he's the right, I'm going I'm going to

you know, I'm going that you're doing a little, no, is that's like I'm

and I and I said, and I'm this this man is a talk about I said

I said, but how I do you know, or what's what's no, it's that

no, it's that's not and I'm that's what and I'm I'm and I'm and I

say, like, okay, to put us in a plan frio maybe the person has an episode

that's a maybe a kind of a psychiatric psychological psychological I know so I'm

so I go to the house of the person to be what I go

into the person and I don't I don't I'm I don't I'm not

I don't percibo that I'm I'm I'm not for nothing

no no and I'm I'm going to connect psychically here, because if

really if there's something, it's going to be adhered and I don't want to get to get to this night.

So, a little, let's see, what's going, what's going, I want to say, I think you

before you started, et cetera, me say, well, what is that this person, had been read books

of how I'd the third eye, and he started as kind of methods

of there and other things that not me he said. So, so it she

said she was the devil, about the sebuke, the moscas and that's so I'm

so I'm I'm, I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, but I don't manage

this, but I, but I, what I do for you is mark to a minute to

a man, he's satanista, he's satanical is a person, he's a person, and then,

but, something, to this entity, not, to be, to be, So,

I'm I'm I'm photos to I'm photos of the lot of the lot of

those people different and they're one that is sibe entities and me said if there

an entity of a natural and that there was like a woman like a

kind of a person that's that's there's and the other and the other

person me did very very very and how it

so you well total that I what we're going to do is a call to this person that's

a manager satanism and the other to know, let's see, what we can say, no?

I'm going to you know, you know, you know, you know, this case, this person, I don't see,

if I said, I said, I said, so something that's that's a play playing the pacharrow,

no or if if if you see, how you you've, me chas the man or

no, well, so, yeah, I'm to talk to with her.

So, I'm put before of her and he started me's

a got a little bit of the and I'm a carer in I'm I'm a

he's a he's he's he's that's you're how you know what you

don't know you know you can't you don't even you don't you don't even

I'm ohla and that no that's a that's a that's that's

I'm so I'm we're let's let's let's make to make to make

a this chavo, let me say, let's tell you to ask you to do give you, I remember. I said, you're going to, you, go, you've got to do a water of media, of water, that's a lot tome, put it in

a room, so, all right. Andre ritual, me said, you're going to do, you're going to do a circle around the camera, tapam me all the speys, and then I'll start, yeah, I did the telephone to it, and he put it in the tabos. We put it in the, in the, in the

a page, I remember, we put it on YouTube, Salmos, because the salmos are one more more

more powerful to combat this type of things. So, so we're going to get salmos,

that they're sounding of the and he started to do a or in Hebrew or

in Arameo a thing so very soundable yeah, a thing I don't know, I don't

know, but he he said, he said, he said, he said, he said, not like

the exorcist but like, of the dole, like if they were interrowing a

cutoff, or something. So, so it's so it a torserce and I'm a caray.

So, no, it's something that was a figure out of you know. So, so I'm,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, that's, most, some, most, I'm,

so, so I, I'm, no, I'm, no, neutral, no is my

camp, I'm, I'm, I, I'm, I, let's I've got the help, and total

that, well, yeah, he did this ritual for telephone, so, like, very technological.

I know that was very technological, but it's not, it's kept more tranquilly, she kept dormita,

and, and, well, he was, he was a circle of sal and with the

spejows, is the problem that they're that they recommend when you when you

have situations that and then you, and then it's, it's, he's

have better better. But that was like a how can

say, something something that what he did she what he did he like to

try to try to see what something something, something that he made

that they made that that and other things. So, what is the

moral of this story? So, not they don't take so

that I see many many videos in TikTok and things and

that no, that that open your third o'

and that with this meditation have careful with the third

ojo the third is a channel of perception but it is a channel

of creation is if you you you are you you

have been you you have a predispos to be a to think

that you will be bad and that you can do

and you if you have you you you that's a

are going to start to or entities or or things, or energies that not are done not done

there's there's a preparation previa of this type of things. The third

eye, no is, ah, yeah, for a spirit, and say, I'm

that I'm not, I mean, the third eye, is a channel also,

so you have to have a mind very disciplined of the things negative

and things positive. Because if you you are of the person that you tend to have anxiety and make stories

macabras of all the things that that can pass that's what I'm saying and for example this person

and imagineate they made there's there people who did that I don't know that I'm

I'm sure that's good but so it's something that the people have to care and

that was my first experience and I hope that I'm that I'm got to be

with entities yeah more more more I'm the sensation to the

case of to the thing, I'm I'm not a normal right, me make

my things, I'm like, you know, but is a situation

very very very for me because it was the first that

really I was a kind of a kind of that after

I think that you're to be to have to have to have a

other perception of the other the the angels

of all is how to learn to depend on what the system of of the system of creencers have

the system of catholic here you you're going to you're going to if you have the Christian or the

or the budist of other then it has it has to be much with your system of your things and

how you are going to influence in you I've I've I've the story

of the person of the the story of someone that's very controversial Poncho

of Niggis Poncho, if you're Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No,

not very controversial, right? Without, without. No, is, not in my

ranking of, the celebrities preferrithes, but, well. Perfect. He,

he, he says, he's in all the middle of the pharantola. Uh-huh. I'm

tuped with a video in the he's with a question with

a about this thing about this thing he has like a perspective very personal, very personal.

So, his wife, like, very religious in the aspect that she has, he has he has a rebato

and he says, he says, look, to come, I've lived a thing, but I think that really

this is too exist. When I was a new, I was in my house in the brisas,

and in the madrugada, I'm I'm going to hear a voice that he said,

Poncho, come to come to come to come to this, then for ca, then for And when I

Goal to the door to the door, I was in the door to do it. I'm in the figure of the devil.

It's a little bit of a catra, a body of a man, all is rogo and he said,

come back. And he's he's not, he's not he's got and he he's got. So,

so the time I'm doing he I'm saying that I'm and I'm I'm going to get to

get to and go to be totally real. So, what I what what happened.

But, Pese to that, I think that's, and it's, ah, come in these situations in

that's a lot of it doesn't do it because you can be the frequency. But definitive

being playing with these areas without being you can't be a situation

very precarious because as if not can't happen nothing, it

and the and the and the all, and the it's something good, but it's

a ranger, but there's that really Kremme, no you want to pass. Yes,

I mean, here there's a system of creensias. I mean, what I've seen of him

is a person very tenad, very very much very work, I mean, so it's

social, and it's a character very, how can say, like, he's so

he's a point and he's and he's about he's he's he's like

to do, he's like, so obviously, I mean, in that point, if he not want to believe, he's not going to be, I'm saying,

I mean, I'm more it's been more like a piece of, I mean, that's the maybe, I'm a more than I'm the attention of the

detail of the video, because, for example, the devil or as well, as we know in the, in, in,

in, all, it's like, are interpretations artisticas. Of, the, of the, uh,

no, and from, um, the, um, mixed, and all that. Well,

that's a perception of that we're so we're in the cat's about, and the color

rogo, it's a middle of the single, the single, that's actually,

it's a hamon of the diablo. Yeah, that's that it was

I was interpreted with, I'm, I'm I'm with colors as blue,

those, colors, of that different, so colors, this person was, this person, was based

on his system of the creedances of how he interpreted the devil and, well,

he's the present it, he's present it he presented, but for the regular, fiatty, when,

I think, I think, I've seen what I've heard, when it's the devil or this

being this entity, well, it's not it's, depending what it's, so if you

want to seducing, and you want to you, you want to get to get to

your mind, then it not will get to here in more here

with the car, that with the something sensual or something like a

way of the fact there's many of the people who have been used that you know,

well it's someone very amable and very very very good.

I think I think depends much of the system of the kind of

in this case is a man he's a years and

I'm I'm I'm I'm think credibility I'm could

have been because not also also also I was to

in that moment and he he, he was he was he, or he's that he

not think because I don't know because I'm not so that's that he doesn't know

that's so I'm sure. I mean I'm clear. You're going to tell a

story okay that's a story that me cause much problem but right

not I'm something I'm like to like to like to say to

you it's that's that's there's there's there a there

there's Okay. that, that's a way can't have to get a

person with a person who's she can she make this world of a way in a

way of her only to do you know a woman. Occurro a situation in

that she was in the school and see a person and I see that the person

is a man who's he's a person who he's when nobody he's he's in

his house that person that person that was a person that was a person who was a He starts to tell

who is, what he was, what he was going to and who he needs to that he says, and she needs to say, well,

I'm going to say, well, I'm going to with the psychologist of my secondary. And when I, well, of the preparatory,

well, there's, these years, go and the psychologist, and the psychologist, and he says, I know that

person and he knows that? So, you, we're going to talk to an person that that person,

that I don't in common, for that we know, we know, we know what we've got to what we're The person

gets very enojointed because he says that was a very dolorosa for that when he came to get to when he's

a commenting this molesto the chick he says, look, he's like he is a lot of data that

I don't have to know what to say, and then he starts to say, he's saying something

that's doing things of our relation that you don't have not you don't have not

finally she's to do the house of the family all all

all her, everything. It's going to start to do it's a whole to get to come up

to get a different of the entities and where they're all of all of those come. A raise of that she

starts by the people who do you know, how to control it because it was a much more fear.

No, I was not prepared and simply occurred and it's a time that he's a

kind of that's like a light and the moscas the moscas. Exactly. She

says that it's going to it's like it's like it's it's like it's

to make it and I'm to have to have me in my mind and I'm to get me and I'm a new way

so I'm a little I'm go to my car I'm a room and is a

woman sentada in my a not an one a woman the

woman signaled the door and the door so so

then I'm I'm I'm I'm who you're and he he says,

no, we're we're not, we're you're going to work you know, you're

you're a good ability that I need to use, and you decide, you know,

you're you're more more years of those that's you're to be

to be you're going to be to be so then I mean, I'm

I'm I'm I'm and he did you he's no. And then

she moved the man and he He started to retort hercerns. It was a lot of horrible,

I'm going to make sure. And I'm going to do. And I'm going to do. I'm going to do you yet

like I'm at a point of getting to get a point of a second of more. And I'm going to go to

go to learn to ask. To put the the end and me does much fear because my

family was going to I'm going to where the where they're just to be and say no,

you're not interest. She go, I'm I'm in I'm in

a way I'm in it's a time after there's a question that's that's

exactly the same story with an artist and he is a same situation. Well,

well, I think that's obviously as we know, as we know,

it's like the Shining not, this on the novel the people that have done

emit an energy, a light, a vibration that can be detected by entities, by people. And there are many clans.

It's a full of clans of bruchos in all the and that are in a war. That's a

war constant. Obviously, I think, this ability of this chick, is very, very, very,

but, but, well, yeah, a more probably there's there's a

a entity that he was a a client or also it was able to be a manned to a person if I'm

I'm saying, I'm it's not that it's really. Yeah, I see me it's really because I've

heard people that you've that detecta you know, you know, they detectan and they're

they're going over you or they're they're not they're they're and can't be a

person of the or can be or how they're entities not at the

maybe if if it there, there's a an entity or what or whatever, because for

something, for a idea, you know, but, but, here you're talking to

this, he was going to a kind of a kind of a kind of a person, not, a more

life or more life? And so fiattee that both things, I'm the

idea, and the description of the person is the same. The same. Yeah, no,

I'm sure that, that is sure, I'm sure, I mean, in this world, you can

expect to, that's the father of this existence, no, of that exists it's an adventure. It's an adventure.

It's a possibility. That's what beautiful and what what's the thing. What's the thing? It's just a little

that's here tangible, no? Yeah. Minna, something for what you want to do you want to be

that's that's not much that's a lot to make a part of the people, the reason? That's,

If I really I do it I recommend if it's for something that it's like for elevation to be a

better person to develop your your body, your mind meditation or so you're looking that's

if you're very valid if it's very valid if you want to if you're I'm like I don't

I think I'm but remember rememberes that all have everything

so all it has everything if they're something if they're they're

going to have to get here, there's karma, it's pay,

all the bad what you do you do this and the intentions are doing,

then they're to be to be to be sure to be so if I'm to do

want to do you want to do you do dogeria or they're, well,

so they're so, well, I'm going to do this, but all they're a repercution and

some things that that any human has been control. So, they'll

get in that after I'm to make the first of a lot of things, check them

the things used as the tassares that no the way, um, have those precautions

of the limpecies of energy, because at final, all we're we're going that are

those recommendations to go to the way. Minah, thanks for having us today to thank you.

Thanks to you've done. Very very. Very Very good. Thank you. Thank you for

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