HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Hice magia vodoo en un espéctaculo de Magia para niños | ft. Alan Castellanos | Ep 150

Episode Date: January 9, 2024

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No, no, no, no, yeah, let's, only that only that's just a pacto with

a welcome. Welcome to a new episode to let me do this new we know we're not

different. Because here in the studio is Alan the man, Alan, how you're

my man? Alan, how you're very well, thank for the invitation for

to tell us different things that have passed a long of

my career for example the shows of magic of mediums if it is real

if it's real, if it's something that are that are that are really

things that I'm going to get that I'm like. What do you do?

If to start this episode we're with a story

paranormal go, blah, blah, in where we where we're we're doing we're, we're in, it's a

bogega. Always that we're still we're we're doing. If we're not we're not doing a

person, but when we're only, if you get to get to something.

I was a bogega has two doors, the door, the of the the car and the

the, is you're, you're, it's that you're so, then you the

door like, the So, I'm I'm I'm in the patio

I'm and I'm the door of the of the door, I'm into, I'm

set up, and when I'm just going to get the and it like when they're the chaper

of the but that not is of the passadores of the like the

like the the like the those they were the so I don't

no no she and I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm is, no he's to the the window the door of the

door, he is a minute a man, I'm he's a trap the

passor and no me let's the hand the hand

the hand, I'm the passer and I'm I'm the

and he he's and just when I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm like you

And me And me And I And I'm And I'm I'm saying Pura Maree

I'm gonna I'm sorry To be in So I'm To get in So I'm So I'm So I'm

So I'm Like a A sombra A person Parada Rara or Or something Maybe

I'm Can't I'm Paralice No I'm I'm I'm

I'm A restaurant To Make Mager A Mager A Mager

The Mager at Miser me says, no, no, no, I don't want to do anything. And I go, okay, me go. And she'll be contracted. No, no, no. I'm in a restaurant and I was doing magic into the mess. Ah, perfect. So, I'm

so I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, specifically, for a, okay, I'm gonna'embourg. Because they're so, they're gonna, the owner. And there are people that who seem important, of that, oh, they'll man, and there's, and there's, yeah, there's, and there, so, it's, yeah,

then it's, it's, yeah, So, for both cases, it's just gonna. And they said, I'm gonna' exclusively to this mess to say, to do you know,

I'm gonna say, who's the owner? And I'm, you, I'm gonna say, they're gonna more. So,

they'd say, ah, I'm, I'm, that's, no, clock, that's,

yeah, yeah, so, so, so, I, I'm, I'm gonna,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, that's, no, that's, no, And I, okay. And then, then, and then, no, no, no,

no, no, see, no, so, yeah, so, keep, you know, said, he's, he's,

he's, he's not doing, gruegeria. He's, he's entertainment. No, no, no. And he says,

let's, let's, say, I, say, well, I'm sure, I'm, to go,

to make some to make, no, no, no, no, I'm, no, no, I'm, so, okay,

and I'm, and I'm, make a change, change, is called a change of color. I'm

a card you're you're going the part of the car and you're going to the card

and the person. And the chaba uh, oh, that's beautiful. And the mom no,

no, no, yeah, let's go just, just so that's just about the

and the and the other thing, and the chabba like, no, no,

no, still, see, see your routine, so, and say, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, and I'm, and I'm doing the routine and

conform I'm going to that obviously the effect is more very and I'm

going to the woman's yeah, no, no, yeah, that's going to

get to be like that's like, and so, and at the end, me say, no, me,

it was too, I'm, like, I'm, maybe, propira the chava. But the

chaba, but the was an illusion, a final of the end of and many times if

me they're asking that, oh yeah, the only form in that does that's

that's a gruegeria. I mean there's people that's thinking that the illusionism is to be

to the druggeria. Yes, depending of what you do you do you do the

effect? Yeah. What has been the effect in the that's the when I

talk one and it and it one to tell us how it is this catacul.

I do do this do this do this the I'll say how I do generally in the show

I do do in the show of adults uniquely I don't do a show infantil I'm a two people that have

a certain connection can be they're not they're husbands people, can be

friends, betters or something that they have been that so I'm that I'm

a lot of a lot of someone has been that has comeinando on the car

they're they're and nobody they're nobody's so if all have,

let's the hand to who has passed, then the hand to do this. Or,

or more even, it's that's that I'm that they're that they're

that they're and and then they're and then so, very well.

Now the question is, someone is, and they're saying yeah, and then

then I'm then I've done someone has done they've been they're

they're they're they're generally always always they're a

amarrs. And then, ah, you did this or you did you? And then, no, me did. Someone has done?

Some type of a brugery or a marre? And, well, generally, nobody will say,

yeah, I did a marre. Sure. This, what, they're to get a

carlson. But they do, like, but they're like, they're Broma. Of a

Broma, of the person who have a connection? Levanted the man or who come to

come to be a pair of or who comes with your family? If no there's a parent,

who has your friend, so I'm two people, I'm two

and they sit and and they say, much attention they're going to start

their eyes, and at this moment, they're to extend your

man, you you're going to extend your to your What we're doing is create a connection

between you. I'm much attention, and you're in your eyes, and then I'm doing to do this here so. The person is with the eyes sores so,

so, they go very well, now, you can open your eyes and can't do your what you get to see, it's going to be

incredible. The magic will be be able to you. You're going to have a experience different in this effect of magic. That you'll like

to see, they'll close. And not you know until you see the

and I'm and I'm I'm to know, I'm I'm that you want to

you're at a certain to get you in your body, yeah so contact

physical, cosquille, sensation of a cold or or a more to get

to get to get some a something. If you get to

something that you don't say nothing, until I

you do you do you do do you do a not to not get to

not to make to make uh and then uh signals false.

And, um, let's give much attention I go with a person

and he took the armro so all the people saw I'm

I'm I'm like the hand the right the person that the person

that sent you the two people they're up. With your e-o-indice, signala where you to take.

And the two people do you do with the eyes do you know, how? And then you do you know, and it's,

so it's so it's very good, because the two are the hand the time at the same time,

and the two are the same time. And it's very synchronized. Lo, you know, the connection

that they're to get to know? And they're not they're not, and they're

what's what they've seen what they've done the armory. And let's say, over their eyes, and I go, up at this moment, they don't know what has happened.

They just said, they're just they're trying to, correct? Yes. Let me say that only I took a

person to you. We're just a connection to a moment where all I to talk to a person, the other he's the other

and then. And then who do they're toke? And the two say, to me. Because the

two senti the talk. And then let me say that you to to take to you. A you don't have talked.

I know I've seen it. I've talked and I've done. Let's see. One of the other more.

Cere in his eyes. I'm going with the person on this side. Just I

pass my hands so, agrrrond energy. I'm with the person at this

side. I'm also without to talk I. Igar a billet

or a card and it's I pass I go, I'm going,

I'm like you talk. And the two people will have to get to the hand,

and the two people are doing this and the two. How's times? Two.

Abran the eyes. No, I've talked, eh? Yeah, I sent it and they're

to start. And then then I've talked, and to us, no. And then then I'm,

you know, sent me, and I'm, and I said, sent me, So it's very because

also, even, even, even, I had a flower. They said, they'd

their eyes, and see a in the light, and I said the people, whew,

will, and they're, they're all, they're they? They're something, wele,

well, no, no, wele, no, wele, no, and I

don't, and I'm, a rosa of a really, and then they're going to

go, and they're going to do, and they're, and they they're to say to

It's. And here I have a rose of redda. This side I have the rose of paper that allured that's allier. That's

you know an odor? Yes. You got a an odor? Yes. See? A-be-one

more. You know, a word? Yeah, you know, what's? Yes. You know,

and you said, me gave a color like to flower or to roses. And you says,

Abre your eyes. This was what you did you. And you said, it's certain.

What you want to be able to let me have to but do you want to be to learn? Yes.

To go it? A paper. And then olie, so. Yeah. And he was

to say, it's, oh,lea so, I was always, and in that the people always

me said, is that is that is a grugery. Yeah. That's brujery. And that is

the, of the few effects of magic that I don't have grabbed. No,

do you do you But I'm going to go to grab and I'm to go to see there

a little video where we're in the circus pass a two person and a

party in the circus and it's impressive because when when I took the nose

to the other person with the person to do that the person of he said that he

called so in the video it's because that also the people that's

that there's the possibility of the those to doques that they're

that they're that they're that's very time. Because it's a video bad because

it's a bad because me it's a little bit to the person and at the other

person he said with his eyes with the eyes and all I didn't

I don't know I didn't that I was that you had grabbed the here, so. Sure. So, when,

when I'm going to the video, I mean, I'm so, I'm very good, I'm even so I'm

even though I'm motioned being the video. Right, clear, here, abyrtably, is brujeria?

No. No. It has something to do you? No, Tampo. Tampo.

Well, you, you think, in questions of, paranormal, is, bruchery and

that? Yeah, and no. A- Tell me that. Yes. Because if I have

to hear of going to hear of some in my house where I've heard of

I've seen and I'm and I always I always I got a because my

father was to get to go to go to you want to go to

go to buy a oh no try me don't I

don't go to go to be going to go and

and see to all is because every one wants to be I know that's

it's like it's like no well you try them and try them if you're like

so so I'm so so I heard that she came covered plates

platos the typical this was the the most the most the one

clack clac clac clacac clacacacac clacacacacac and I

and here and here and here so it was like the the most common

the most common is the canica um But, I'll say, because I don't

I know because I know a lot of techniques to engage to the people for that this is

an example the tacto at distance at finalize that effect of magic that I did I

did a other but with a effect. The same effect. The same, it was

with a muke and was very good with the manke he did

to do in a theater with a a muke but I saw know that the

mou he was a little to get into was a vahue and it was

a new year that I'm a new year that's used to do you so I'm so I

said to the person that was to get a a little the man who's

he was the same the the armro, the of the name the

the rosa and at the the one the person of that had had

cinnisa in the hand. But, no I said anything. He said, and the muke, he extended the hand, he put a fire in his hand, and he said, you know, and said, you know, and said, no. And I go, figgott, is it the

best, budu that's the person, it's just the person who knows. And they're so, I'm like, that. I go, that's the best, the person, so do you know, the person's to do count, or he's sent? And, you know, you, you've, seen that

the man to the muke, yes, I'm at your hand,

and you know the black of the of the thing that he's that's

very so, and at the final, I'm in that magic, when I'm

when I'm to do to the way, oh, wait, we're we're

we're the, the vincal the thing that they they're

so, no, no, no, don't you don't you don't you don't

If the day of day of in the night you know, you know, you know, you know,

or from your or from your or from or from your or you know, or even if you think you talk,

no you're don't you don't know, it's normal. I'm going to play with the moll. So the

people are like, no, no, what are what you are what you're doing? Yeah. And so,

and so, very personal, or so, It's a little The percentage Yeah Like the

Like the Yeah Is it's part of the... The performance. Is that is kind of Bissarro, because

me has happened that I'm that's bad Yeah, I mean the sense that I'm in

a show of adults one way but they were like well all they're

all over all over all they're for all they're very accessible and

when I said the person uh no te not you be doing I'm

doing with the muke, me I'm saying, uh, me say the person, not more, not you know,

I'm at a bit, no, no, no, I'm thinking, I'm, I'm going to

say, I'm going to be, a bit, no, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to start to laugh in

play in show. And, okay, and you're, then, in questions in the

case, in the question, you, now, with the passed the time of your knowledge

No. So, that is that's like there's that there's some of the question.

Yes, yes, yeah. Of course, I'm, I'm changed, I'm,

I'm I'm in the Podaca, me I'm a podaca and I

Concordia and when when we were just we were there, they were there's

listening the house of the carucia. The typical that in a sudden it's that's

that's that's that's a commode a like, like when you styrs in the and at a little

the same and at all the you know, you know, you're very good shillers, that's

that's anything, here. Oh, oh, me rechino more the rodillo right that

the baghe. You're the same? The chair, no, the right, the chair, no,

it's the right, uh, yeah, something, I'm, I'm just, I'm just

a commodable, a more a point, the recinio of a a door, this, no,

there was there, but almost always always they were, in the court of

my mom or in the vestior of my mom. And one once,

I met to bathear, and then the bathroom, and then the space, I was, I'm

to be in the space, and in the space, like, of a, of a, the,

the, the manita, and I, the, and I'm, and I I think a

subrina that in that's we're talking that my son't really my son

I think that in a then I'm six. It's a right. So, I'm,

I'm, because there are some there's some of my time, but when that's all

the part. That part the hands not were in panied all, when it's disempaired all, the

He, they'll be in pañer, they were to mark the hands.

So, but those we were one of the I'm and I'm and I'm let's

and I'm and then my my brother and I said, and I'm and said,

and I'm you, you're, you know, I'm and I'm a, so, the

hand, I said, yeah, I'm, yeah, I'm, and I'm, you know,

you know, so, so that at the way, like, like, like, like,

you know, like, the piece-tie-of-a-be that's this, like, so, then I'm he said,

no. And I said, to the maybe was Samantha. And then I said, ah,

at the maybe, she, well, she has, she has been, she has, she has been?

And then? You mark those hands? And me said, no. But, I'm sorry, Samantha

very little. And then me said, no, I'll be, I'll be, Ben. And,

effectively, not across. And, and the man of Samanta yeah was more great.

So, I don't not, no, no I'll get to, and I'm, well, who know?

Those we're and we're to be to be in a place. I'm

one of the one of the and my subrina always always is in my house.

I was in my court and I always when I was when I

was when I always more little I'm to my

mom to Samante. If she Kna, Despired to him,

I'm to be to be to be in the time, I'm a bit never, I'm

always, I'm said, you know, I'm saying, you know, you're more, you're

more, then I'm to be able to doorm, he said, well, we're, we're

to be, also, yeah, I'm to be able to do you, yeah, it was a

good technique, a good technique, a good so, then I'm a time,

and I I heard that I'm going to say, Alan. And I'm like in my inconscient

I'm sorry I'm sorry. No, I'm going to do you go to say, oh, he's a

expert, he's going to because that so I did a really go and I know that

I'm going to but that time I heard, I'm sorry and I'm saying, no, Samantha,

right to be going to say, Alan, and then I'm I feel that my Sien to my armory.

Ahla. And there was when I opened the eyes. I was thinking that was my my

aubrina, I'm thinking that I'm going to be nothing. So, yeah, so I was sent to the time. So, it was

so I'm called the only, and we'd say, and we'd say. And we'd carin. So, then he

like to do it's like to be a bit of so, of the then I listen to

Alan, and then I'll listen to my earha and me to my earge

and me I'm and I never, and I said, ah, that's a man

and I should be aghachated I am so I'm so I'm so,

and when no be nothing, me came the 20 of the that that's it's a day of the

time in the that my subrina no I'm in the right not a

my sobrina but always we're always we're doing no it's that the nina

want to play, the yeah the nina the nina because I started that is that

is that the is that's in the closet of my mom right, I was all over, I was

I'm going to and I'm saying but never we never we never we said we were

a little because we've been a minute a little bit of a little yeah, no, no, not you know,

and I'm not apart you didn't know because at final of the count's what he was a little bit

is a yeah, in all the things that puten for that you're in a need

a so so it's so it's so that's it's the yeah, it's the

so then I'm then there's my Sobrina. And I I'm going to talk

only. I said, I'm sure, you know, I'm dream. And at a ratico

we're put to get to play. But you don't get to and I get to

and I get to be my mama, my mom, me have me just, my mama

I've heard about my mom too, my mom too, because they're too obviously,

the those, the the really, the and, and,

and I said, me Esperated. My mama, no. If me they're just, I'm infarct, and my brother, is in serious? Yeah, yeah. So, yeah,

I'm gonna, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna'-relte-the-cure-the-court. Yeah, no, so, I don't see, listen to ruy-you-knowed, yeah, no were ever before, to be able to beck, never, yeah, but it was,

it was very rare, I said, I said, that was all, that was all, we're, like, we're, like, Rewoods daily, but various months of

that, I don't say, they're three Rewos per a week,

two a week, so. So, so could say that you think you

think you think that you're many, but you do you do that can't

try that's true, that's Harry Haudini was one of them. Harry Haudini

desemaskered a mediums. Like James Randy. No, James Randy. He put a

price or more a more a million of dollars to make to make sure that really

really really has a kind of a thing he's doing he's in serious to do you see, let's

tell me, that he was his mom and he had a connection very very strong

with her so they they're a clave of, no see nine digits

so so Harry Jaudini was cataloged as the the best mago of the

story. Well, still being cataloged as a called to talk about

the story and it's a scapist because I'm not a tattooed tattooed.

Yeah. I'm idol. Yes. And, this when he when fellace

his mom, he he gets like like emotionally emotionally

emotionally and and he says I go to convoc a

person that me can that can talk to my

mom and that is my mom? I mean, no,

just, no more that's the mother, that's, that's, I'm going to

give a million of dollars. But if it's a, or me want to

know the techniques to engage, and say, I'm going to expose

to all the public and I have to the other so I want to

put a that's going to get without. You're Decides if

come or no. Then they'd first were in the locales. No, I go to

contact to your mom and then it's a can't be here? No, it has to

be in my studio, for so to say to say it I was and he was done

the the campana if you're to be here Harry Joddincia is that you know,

is that another person at this parre, you know this here the campana, the

that's the, for you know, for you know, for you know, because if you know a campana, but not is the here.

And she said, it's sounding a campana with the feet, or they'd literally with the feet,

a campan, a campana, and they'd be the and then, then they were they're just, they're just

that way, Harre Jodin assurabar, he said, that not was talking she was trying her the campana,

but, but was talking with the feet. But, Harre Jardardin and he said, no,

Abraars the eyes and he he'll know like to corrobor

the situation to be to be to be to be doing trying to and then

he said and then he was he was a clave with his mom so

he said if it's my mom and say me me give the name

never he never he was but he was he he

was a person that was the world in that

then he he said I'm going to go. He says, You know, you do you guys you're doing

to this and you're a millionary to this and he says I'm going to go to your mom

he's, or for the most I'm going to do to know to be able but

if I'm going to do do you but you do you say, but you're you know

me is and not me you're you're you're the best medium

of the world so so so and he's and he

If he was for the million of dollars, because he also Yeah, I had a... Yeah, he had money. Yeah, he said, man, just is for, to corroborate that the omio is real. And, and he was, and he no, he was done, and he also,

he also, he waser a far as... And he waspunned-to-do, he said, he... Yes, he said, yeah, he... Reveled to all, and said, this person, stafa-gent. Stap a agent, then yeah no gasts in them.

So, as I know that part of the history of Harry Houdini, he's saying, oh, there are people that I don't know. You know, I've talked to you to disment to someone? Discovered the trick of what they're doing? Um-huh. No, si, see, I've given. But, I mean, I know, I know, I don't know people. No, directly, I mean, I've been given directly.

of that, oh, if, let me agenda a and I'll pay for that me leans, or no, but one a few,

no, a various times have made to hear of and they and they're like, ah,

look, what I'm going to hear very well, it's going to get a good, you're going

to get a job, money, your family will be more unied, so, so,

and so, and things that I want to hear, the next year, the next year,

is the the next year, is the So, really it's very complicated that you're going to

get very bad, you're going to get in a chiebred, you're going to a little bit, you're going to you're going,

you're going to you're going. Really, who's, who's, yeah, is going to say,

to be able to disaltentartes. So, so, so, so, so. Because if I

made, one of the person, they said, you're going, I'm going to a person very

very and I okay okay okay okay okay but

not you don't you don't you don't not some family and I okay

yeah the day my madrina and I oh yeah so

so so for that you wow it could

be coincid but so yeah yeah I said could

be coincid and that person so said he said she

said he's and that person that's that person that's dedicated to and that person so I'm

so I'm I'm going I'm saying I'm at I'm like you like you confirmes

with the head to say to say to start to do that yeah to do you

so you you know so you you know and you he said and he's he said

I'm going for a car I'm I'm I'm going to say that's

that's that's that is that the more you can't with your my

kids, me make my with your kids, but in reality you you're

you're in you're doing this and then you're in you're doing you're in your

like, you know, like, no, no, no, no, for a

person, your husband? Yeah, so, then they're, then they're going, they

are going to find out of times, but that person when me, me, always to me me that's

always, I know, the techniques, I'm like, I'm like, okay, okay,

inamovible, in microct and then, and then this, me want to do a reason,

because they're saying, like, no, no, not, no, I can't

give them, I'm like, they're like, they're to, they're, they're,

they, they're, they're, they're, so, and then, they're, that's,

in my life, or me, and I'm going to, and I'm , and I'm, oh,

yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm, they, and then, they, and they,

he got re-inventory a story and I said nah What's What do you What do you say? What do you say? What do you say Is that the technique

that most have seen that apply? The lecture of micro-expressions and language corporal? Yes. Lecture

of language corporal. It's that there is a base there's a before. Of course if they

can the program of those mental they're they? Oh, so? So?

they're And they say, any person can be a medium. Dice in reality, you know, you know, you know,

whatever person to be able to read the cards. And so, in reality, the only that's to do is to do it

and they're, and they put in a actor, and they put in a chichero. And a person that's to say,

that's, and say, he'll say, he'll say, because there, there's, there's, there's,

and I'm going to the expressions. And he says, d'all, do you, do you, do you?

kids? Yes. Ah, okay. Then so, so, so the more,

tell you have problems with your and the person who's in the other, in other

room, is saying to the actor that says, and he is a back, and he's

like, the person, no, is that's that's a person, no, is that you,

and he's what he going to do you know, that's a thing, that has a money,

that has problems? and if all the people have problems with who they have with their with their

or with your family, and then is a problem family, and then the people and say,

yes, the people are, I, I, I think there's a problem, is a problem very

very very very, obviously if it's a problem, you, it's a very,

it's a problem, it's a problem, it's a family, and a sometimes the

people and then my spouse, with my spouse, they're in information for Oh, my

My kids I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to a person with a person with a family very

but that's you can't get back my new is very common with that my newner or my

my sueger is that is very interesting because sometimes the people not even I'm even

I'm really really really really super-encant when I this I've

I've told some I think I'm I'm I'm a

periodical that has all the horoscopos and I think I mean I'm a lot of

this is a true. Because I know one that no that no that's my signal

and I say, I know another I'll go I'm another, I'm yeah, I

do I do some I did various tricks at the time but one was to let me

do you sign no and he he's he's a other and he he's

he was but he's but that it's so it's coincide or so it

so I see so I'm so and I say, and I say, it's something so general or so generical or that you're going to hear you. The point is that sometimes me do

that people not are concerned of things basic. And it's normal because not we don't know how much. But I think not are the areas that we're in the life. You import the money? You import to the health? You import to the family? You important your emotions? And you

important, maybe the job. Yes, and then, something, something, something,

something real real I'm a minute, uh, I mean, I know that's a person that's a

person who like to confronts to the , that you're that's, that's

a, uh, all, uh, all the toro for the cairns and says,

I'm to, I'm, to try to get it, although a more a bit

sometimes not but you like to intend it and do do your

maximum. Or you're a person that you like to do the minimum. No,

really? You know, you do that's the maximum. In the love, is complicated.

You're going to get a person. You're going to be that's or not

you're not you don't be that and you want to get a that's

that's the good, I'm much much work, I'm you know you're

a project in a project on you do some you very good

you very very do You'll go excellently well. Oh,

Cue. Cueado. I'm a embarazzo but you can prevent. Yeah know how.

So, only look at be a unbarazzo if you know to see you're going to obviously

everything. All right what is saying if you're if you're listening if you're to do you

do you do it? Some things that they do they're to do they're

not? Rarro when you are when you're When they're, you're just embarrassed. And the person

no knows. And that's, and that's, you can't intuit. Yes, but at the person still doesn't know,

but at the way, there are there forms of with the eyes crystalinos. How did you count? There's a lot.

For the panza of eight months. There's, there's, there's, I mean, I've talked to people,

and if they I've known, that all we knew a embarazzo, for the stomach, for the

form, or so, because it's a person that you're living in much time,

and the stomach is changing and notas for the time of the time of

the time that's that you don't consume a great of the time

so it's so it's so it's the day that you know I'm got to get a

and 50 000 50,000 50, because you're going to be going to

do you know, yeah you're taking a thing. The

emotivity the the change of the the people the eyes

those those are hypnosis, there was something that we we had to learn to the day of the

day of the day of the but the dilatation of popylas. Yes, I do it. I do it.

You do it do you do it's a major that's super interesting because at a people, I mean

that the poker face is all and it's like no, because the dilatation not you don't the

control you. So if if they know, if they're in that generates dilatations you know

you're where you really these people not those, but the

people who know something that know, something about you know, it's more being that's

saying, Alan, for that's they're doing much care, I don't know I recommend, I'm not

recommend I know that I know that I know that I know that that I'm a new fowder. Look,

let's say a game of magic that I use. A little let's be but this you can't

do you can do. That's so is much much more more easy to

do it person has eyes clear. The more better, because, because

the pupila more easy. Okay. This technique of the pupillas dilat those are to the

policeies. A so when, imagineate that they're sitting to a a assassin

and literally they're you're gonna, you're not, and the pupa, you know,

but me intersel that no, I don't have to prove legally, that you

you're not what is generating us a reaction emotional. And we know exactly what. So, this, you know,

this will be good. This is going to say, because with this technique, if you they're going to

ask to your partners, something that want to know when they're going to know when they is a

really, it's a very, it's it's very clear. Miel, Bairdes, azules,

a coffee clear-to, that's that's a pubila. It's convenient

to put a lamp directly if they're those eyes because in automatic the

pupilla is to be a little, it's to be to say, it's

what's what you say, how it works, when you do you do you

and the people you know, the pupila is dilate. But it

so it so, look. There's the the pupilla is so, and it's so forth.

So, I do a effect of magic where I'm a person , you know, the person,

the one of you want to you want to do you know, really, really how people have the eyes

clear? You have to identify to your public first. So, so,

I'm a card, it, they think, and let's, suppose, in the

seven of the And I go, the first that you're going to think is in the figure Picas,

Corasones Trebol, Diamants Okay? I'm going to say the number of each one and when

pass for your figure you're going to think that's my card more well

that is the figure of my card that is the figure of my card

then then I you're you you're you're you're you're

you're you're and in the pupilla does this is this dilate trebol

and diamonds or also you can't say in all you you're going to to identify that's

more easy if you're you're going to you're not you're going to you're you're

to ask if it's diamonds or trebol me says no or trowel me says

no trebol no trebol no Diamantes, no. In three, you know, in one

he said, in a in the one of the other, the pupilla is going to dilatar. Yes.

Yes? You're, you know, so, okay, is the heartones. Yes, how'supis

you? The mind, no, I'm not, you're saying, you're doing, my name, no,

your expression corporal. Your expression corporal. Or, a basis, or a seca inconsientimentally,

sonrined. The narwhose. Yes, the naris they expand, infls the poros, etc.

But the pupilla that's no, no, no fail. And I say,

now we're to think in the number of your card. When pass it

the number of your card, you, you're my card. And we

start, we're, we're, eight, eight, nine, 10, J.

Rain and and then you start, and then you get a to you know, the

pupil is so and then So, ooh, it's between the 5 and the 9.

And you and then you're and 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

You're now, now, not, now, no, not he's 7,

8, 6, 6, 7, 7, 8, 7, 7

of the so, so, so, and this you can do,

and this, go, with, a friend, with her novi or with her novi, and say, I want to

you imagine that in one of the two hands you're invisible, obviously. In one of the two men you're not.

I'm going to ask you want to be to say, me say, you know. I'm going to ask you

the one and you want to you're going to you're going to say, the right,

no, the does you know, the same the left, no. Where they see, that's the lipa the

pupila, is that there has the manzana. That effector I've done many times and not

I've failed in that. No, the effector what you're saying is that there's an vincal

emotional cognitive with an stimulus specific. Yes, yeah, and that's what I

differentia. For the people, is that there have been many there's there's super

centered in the family nocturn that I would I say that's

the 99. 9. But there some that some the other things that are

very important those reduce to nothing and they're they're in detectors of the and they're

like, because you're been here these people detectors of the men things that say, the

mentira and then not, not expressions emotives. The is super difficult

to understand what is because there there's many different types of and you know,

and you know you know what you're not if it's is that is that form a

part of that or no or if is that more that is that is that

that really meent, then it's like... Desvier the mirab. It's more, we're going to make a...

To say, you really are in a question a dark, let's... Let's... Let's...

Let's... Go ahead with his noviors, with his no, and let's... ...olomently

do, if, or no? Me has been infiel? You're going to say that no.

If it's he dilate the pupila, that... That's... But, before of that

that that's the mancana for that you're so you do it we're doing we're doing

we're so we're I'm going to that's listening to this program and you see it's in this eyes, don't

you know, that's the that's that's not that I'm that I'm that I'm no, or

imagineate that they they say if they're if they're if they're they're they're

a person super honest No. If they say that if they're dilat, you're not saying that's been infiel. No, but if he said that's for molestate. But if you say that if you're saying that...

But you're doing a correlation like if, like, if, literally, were related related to the mentia. But if the person in that moment has a record of what is it, it's a lot of popilla. It could be. Yeah. Or, I mean,

I was, you stood in an experiment of that type? Yeah, at when they're, he's going to be to ask you? Ah. With who? I mean, or as to ask, to say,

no. With who, where, how, a story related to, something that he has

considered, or this story is veridica. A person that I know, I don't

dare details, but he was very because he was a feeling to

his party. Never I wanted to talk to the time. I

did I'm so I'm because he was He said, and he He felt excitation.

That was the infidelity for him. That pedd, he, he, he, he said, pedasos. So, that's also, that's

also, because it's much in the mindset of the person. So, it's like a tricky, but if

you want to your best your breaches, this is the form. It's a very interesting. What grand

thing? What, I prefer to be happy in the a minute. You're a mentalist. Yeah, and not

don't ask nothing. Why? Well, Alan, what, what, what, what's

quite good, I mean, we've seen just a few years, you know, you know, of a

other person, a little of a normal, that the day to do you for you, no,

I'm there's that's that you've done? Um, if, if there

many, no, they're explication, but what? They're... They're too interesting, I mean, no, I don't think

a-uh, no, a-me-me-me-me-me-me-possan things paranormal at everyrata that, whewch, no, no, no, are very, very contadas. Apart to that the matter of those things that were surveys, justs, votes, jobs, pieces,

small, that, as much that, I'm used to, I, mean, to £1, and it's like, that you're, like, he's, made the thing, Yeah.

To I won't tell, the the Museum of the Horror. Okay? In the Museum of the Horror you get, it's in Saltillo. In the Museum of the Horror, you get those, the

recorrived, and they're to do they're at least of the night. 12, 1 of the morning, 2. the morning, etc. Entras and you in a quarter that has a projector and has various chairs like a salon of class.

They're saying, take a seat, seein' to the cella, and they're they're, they're going to put psychophonias real. And they're to put exorcisms real, and they're saying, this exorcism

of this exorcism, was inspired the movie, was inspired the movie of the Exorcism, of Emily Rose. This exoxysm was inspired to this exorcism, was inspired to this. And so, so. So, what they say, they're

saying, the house is of the years, 800 approximately, and is constructed in erratura. So, for To get to To reach to Toes

All the Quartes You have to If you have a passillo If you're a little bit If you're a little port The house, no, the other than the door, no, the One of the One Piece of, the only light that has to be This part, because it's the projector,

and if any focus there. No, we're not the only the light that's the

guy, that's a lamp and it only the person, when the people

is coming for that can be the room, when they're doing the explanation,

it's but when the people are changing the house, it's

to be to be to be there. You're to go to get to then.

Then, we're we're to pass to the first abyssion, passenle, and all we we'll

we're in to be to be able to get to be that I'm like to be up here atraske to be in the

door and we say the guy, let's get the ballita here in the center of the,

of the and all that's, pu-madre and it's that generally where they're

where they're in the in the all we're we're all we're and we we're just

I'll explain. I don't I guarantee that they're going to see that at the first of the first of the first of the I'm at the

I'm going to to be a lot of that's going to to get a something, says because the house no has done

actors. Dice the not have not even people. If it's not a story

fea. But the house no has not there. So there there's there people

that's there's we're going to the history of every court but they're oh,

well they're they're every quarter, but no no, I saw nothing, no I didn't know, nothing, nothing, not out of the common,

a house normal. And there's, and say, no amounted, of the mother, I'll go ahead, because I'm because I'm

because I'm so, but that's something that's something we can't control. The house at one

one of the one of the thing is, all the that gets to feel to feel real. We're in in the first quarter

is the ballita in the center and all they're so you

were the last person of the little I'm in the end of me like the

people as a person's so so and not because I would be

there because they're because I'm in the ballita and

of the and of the right and right and another behind to me

and I feel scalofrills. But very, very, so, I'm going to

put the skin to the right, and the very, very very

lent. When it's the part of my body, I'm I'm

to be to and I mean, and in my heart to be the part of

my breatho, I, I'm my little I'm know, I'm Because,

a little we'll go back to the of a moment, suggestion. I'm a

more I'm just imagine and suggestion me and I'm a bit of a

cold and I'm I'm I'm my friend. When I

I'm my friend he's and he he's and he oh la

mad what I'm what I know I'm I know I'm I'm

I'm to to be I'm I'm to I'm to be

a minute but I'm and then I'm saying to you do you do you I'm

I'm sure you I'm and I'm you know I'm saying you know I'm I'm saying

why not me you think I'm I think that I'm I'm but I

but just when I was he's he's he's he's he was it's

it's it's too that part we're They've left

a other quartito where they were with those they've done to be

that they were in that they were they were they were they were in the house we don't

go to go to the light and there's a palacito and he's

that that palazzo you go to tell the story that they're

they they're they they're they they they're they

they're they they said, that palazzo no they're because he's

a little a little a little a little a little his own and then the child was in the

thing, he's intended to do a curation to liberate the album etc. He said but now

let's let's be to explain a muke and the pious was here the

the other side was the like the other side of the playterer the

but the same light alumbrable a but the pallasso yeah not that's the pious

was like seeing the muke so we're not those we're not because

the attention not in the pachasas was in the my logic

that I'm sure was has a light has

turned the piaus by logic if I would if I

would to tryqueer, I'd do you do it. Apago the light,

the and I'm sure. It's obvious. But the chava the pachasas was a madera.

Any a turn sound. Suna. And the chava had the guide,

had a two persons of the recorritory in front of her then he had to

pass the arm for in middle of them to turn to do

to Yeah, would have revealed the trick for the conditions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would have revealed, like, who'd say, the trap. So, it was, like, my logic is, I'm here I turn the muke, and I pared a lot, and those who si Gied on count, sioux, if no, then, then no, then no superlip, no, I suppose, no, I suppose if it was part of, or was, or, or was real, and at final, we pass another way, to, all, all, all quartito of the

principle, that was, I don't you know, I'd say the projector, that was like a salon of classes, and they're

to start the door, and then they hear from the door, and it's not, and they're of those

doors, like, of those doors, like, of, the, the, then so,

sootar that point, and it's , they want, to be the door, and they're

doing, and they're all the people, that's, to go, my brother and my prima and my primo. We went to, and we were the four.

And I was... And I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but... Not because, no, it's because no, I don't have my son. A little more... It's a way... ...deafenna, but no, no, man, it's not. Like, me emotional. In other than nervous, I, how, that I'm

moose. I said, no, manch, it's too... Cama'am this pedd. And I was like, like, it's... And, apart, since that... that also me was I'm

really, I'm in my mind happened, what can happen if it's real,

what can pass if it does it does it does it do you see, I've

seen I've seen and you can't pass that I'm we're gonna

we're we're we're we're doing we're we're we're you're definitely

you're defended you're yeah another was I'm in-medio, I'm not I'm not to-delano.

So, if I want to grab someone, well, I'm like, the, the guy, the, the,

like, they're at the , they'd, they'd, they'd, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm trying, because I'm, I'm, to, I'm,

to, I'm, I'm, I'm, to go, I'm, to be, I'm,

you're, you're, so, so, so, so, I, so,

I, that is the the proof of what would be if they're a phantasm

real in reality that is the only person that's actor in the woman is an actress

is a a girl and he was with a vestido with the hair

like the like the kind of the like she she was a

great and that is what what they would that that sensation of

fear that you know, is the same sensation that would have if they were real, because you know

that this were at all. And yeah, and there's the little, a new year, a discused, if you're

a little to do you, no, I'm, well, I'm to get a laugh at too,

now, now, now, now, now, so, so, then,

the, the, the, the, the, the, I think, I'm,

I'm, that's, so is a fugue of energy at final necessary. This occurred in this

house of Saltyio and the experience of the people that went to get into more to do you.

Yes, yeah, yeah, I was like, we're going to let's see, we're to be

the adventure. Yeah, there's a there's a that think that we're doing that we're

because we're materialize things of the nothing. Like the sal and

all of something? Something something. Okay. You want to see Something? Uh-huh

Keep you Grabando? Yeah, look, I'm going to Parer. So, if here

you do do you do you, do you see, see, see, yeah,

yeah, we'll be able to see, in camera, there's in camera, no

if I want to do that close-off. Okay. We're two I'm gonna

with a money. I've I'm two with two dollars, yes. Okay,

look so, I'm moving, I'm me to get a to do get a

to do I have a mona of 10 and one of 5. Okay? What I'm going to do is I'm going to grab a money and me to go to guard in the bolstil. What I'm going to do. What I'm going to do.

What I'm going to do? You have to decide what one of the money? Perfect. Okay? It's very simple. Nothing in my man. Only two monedas in this hand and this one

completely vacuous. Look, I'm going to grab one. There's a little bit. Yeah. It will go to guard here in my bolstio. What money me care in the

hand. You know, two monas in the hand. Because I'm a good because I'm

a bit of a bit of yeah, yeah, one way, one more. One way more. Okay.

I'm the 10 and the 5 look. There's the thing. What's the money.

What's the money is two in the hand. I'm too. I'm going to see, I'm

going to be one over over that. Okay. The of five. The of five.

The one I'm going to get in the hand in the one that's let's get in the

one way, one more, one more. Yeah, see, we'll see one. That's gonna be in the hand. I'm gonna get in the man. Ah, you're gonna'

two in the mind. No, I don't get any that's gonna be back in a day. What good trick! That good

true. That's, I do I do a lot of and the people if I've done to say, let me get to

see a cat. Yeah, that's it I do I do a lot of and the people if you get to say, you know,

you're doing, you're doing, you're saying, how do you do you know, like, well, the world,

I go, it's my secreto. And I do you do in restaurants and the people, and the people say, I'm saying,

I'm sure, I'm sorry, I'm gonna, like, here, I'm just, this ratito and I'll

get a hundred pesos in pure amourriya. The people see, because you know, because you know, nobody,

here, not just, under the master, start me, passing and I'll go 500 pounds in pure amourri.

And they're saying, there's in serious there's a question that's it's in serious and I'm no.

For favor. Good good good good. What interesting? I'm

I'm that I think to say, this role me makes think much like,

okay, I don't any, no, no, no, no one I'm

four hours and I never, I'm to know to know what some limit.

I'm a limit of a a technique, a technique, a technique, a technique, thanks,

thank Demonic. Nemo technia? Or no? Dea of, to learn things of a certain

form. Yes. Like, the sequence. There's a man who's called Juan Tamarice of Spain.

Yes. Very good. That's was a master of Lisbidreite precisely. Yeah.

He invented a technique in the that's the order of the 52 cards. In serious?

Or so, and it put in a order in a specific? Mesclavan? I mean?

not an order like, ah, if a, two, three, four, five,

no, no, the barack mixed. And all and the was there was

like, I'm as they was all I learned to all, I'm

to do you know, you know, you know, you see,

yeah, the technique I, I, I'm know, I'm, yeah,

and you know, and you know, the barage, you, infinity

of effects of magic but infinity but but, but, but, no,

no, no, no, no, no, rewelda. Apprentingate the order of the five,

uh, so, if you do, if you do, you say, you're revoked. I see, I'm,

there's a order, there's, there's a order, there's very, very badgated,

but with that, with that with the amenemone that, I'm also, I'm a

5.4ones. Sure, the 5. Corrosons, no. No, I don't want to do any talk, look. With other card. He'll give the Wirton. It's the 5 Corrosons. And it's with this technique. So, you can't say the case there, and you say, Oh, way.

Interesting, Cabe. What has been the Mago? Or, exists a man, Mexican, or exists a man, Mexican, that you admire? Yes, for me, there are two magos in Mexico. One is of Chihuahua and the other is

of Guadalajara. One is called Gossner, that is the one every year, and he's called Fenik. The two are goodest and have gained competitions as well,

for me, they're both are the best magos of Mexico. So, I think what they know, I know, a 3% Oh, yeah in this? 10. 10 years.

So, if you're if you're you're saying, oh, yeah, this technique of who is? They're saying, ah,

is a, that's a malo, it's said in the book, uh, of, uh,

that's, that's published in the year 1946, chapter, 7, page,

4132. So, no memory photographic. And then the, and you, all the

matter, oh, these guys, they're so so, I mean, so, I see, they're very, really, so,

they're too so, they're too, in the sense of that, you know, if you, if you're,

so, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

just, I mean, I know, I know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to

do you know to do, because no I'm using, because, because, I'm not my style,

or because no, I'm or simply because no me they're but there can't

come out of and I'm going to know I'm going to know the history of the technique

they're apart of that they do they they're they're they're and they

they're the history of the technique who who who who

who were who were who were who who were who were the

way to the time and all all this you do you all this you know

that's so there's magos famous mediatic and exist mages

not mediatics so so at the level mexico what would be the

major most famous no media so it's a a magas is a a better

that is a that is a commercial that that's basically Gosner

Gosner gozner yes and and commercial yeah can can be

he can't he can't be Joaqu Kottkin, He's He's He's

He's a He works with He works with He works He's a real So, When you're in Latin America, he's He's the best mague

Copperfield. Without a doubt, yeah And apart of that He's the best He's the best He's the more money. Affects

to have money for the questions of magic? More it affects to not to do it.

Because it's limit. In that, explain me a little you that's met with you know.

For example, David Copperfield in February will be to disappear the lunar. Yeah. So,

it's a game of where you will be a lot of a little and David Copperfield

has years, in an interview, he said, I've said, I've been

going to cost me will cost millions and millions of dollars. But, but,

it's all that money. A more, suppose, that there's a

other mago, very good, that has the idea, but at the

more of not has to do that do to realize to that's

a scale. Yeah, because we're talking that David Copep

he's going to David Copeper but he's, like seven consultants,

There are people that that's that's that's that's from the format in-vibo to do

the format virtual, that in the format of cameras, they used many tricks that had to

have been to the camera. That that all not not to play to play

with that what is your opinion to do? Well, I think in the magic all I'm

all right. All, all, all, so at you can't you can't say,

ah, is that you can't to the people you're being. Well, yeah, well, de front also. Just, yeah, just

it's, it's more beautiful, is more limpio, it's more organic, but one of the magos that used a much effect of camera, that for my gusto is good, is Chris Angel. Sure.

MindFrike. Yes. Inclusive, in the show of MindFrike, when the people were to see it, I'd say, there were exceptional. There were, not what I expected. Because the people

expected to see what the people see that the people were to go to see the the public, as partier to the

person, and then they'd the world, the show in the program. So, how it's a level of spectacle is very well. Obviously, I just knew

that no idea to be nothing of mind freak but but in their show

is good very much me, I mean me, I'm I'm like the

people said, it's that's it's it's but I think

but I want to see the mind free. So, so I wanted I

want to see I'm really I'm a parted the

parted to the public and they were and they're they're they're they're

they're they're what did in minefrik He got her a woman and agarro a man,

he was parted the middle, he was aparted, he gotrower in the person, was the person was the pure dorso,

for so say to say it, he started to get to get a arsustada with the pure

hands, she was, and she went to be up and she said, I wanted to see, no,

but obviously that's in a spectacle no, no, it's been done, the program

was done for the program was done for the person in case, I mean, you know,

and then you know, and then the people who are in the world, you know, then I'm

doing the same, I'd preferrify, uh, at final of the reality,

it's a show, it's a show, it's a show for so, so I'm

to be, you, you'd be 15 people who you're being, being,

they're, they're, they're going to be able to do how's the

effect of the magic because that's What's What's the

You know, or arrisgues those 15 people to impression to three millions that they're

seeing the television. Obviously, arisgues the 15 persons and say, well, that's no

a way. I mean, that's I mean how it works, how it's, I'm trying

I'm trying this. How how would you'd the magic? Maybe we'll

let's for here. The magic is, I, I don't,

I'm, I feel that not is the effect that not is the truco, vulgarly is the trick. No, I like to

call to but it's like the people commonly it's like, because as the thing, it's like

there's a kind of, so I'm, so I'm saying, I'm going to get a, I,

I'm going to then I'm so, I'm going to say, I'm going to say a game

of magic. I'm I'm going, I'm because it's different. And it's, well,

in a thing, in a way, a or a or an effect. You see.

So, the word truco, for me is like, yeah, yeah, there's a

connotation negative. Yes, for you, yeah, there's a thing, there's,

you know, it's a type of art? It's an art, it's an art, it's a

level national, level world, where are different exponents, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, the magic live in Las Vegas, where

He's back Copperfield, a Chris Angel, Penant Teller, David Blaine. They're the best magos of the world. And they're not you know, you know,

they're going to show. They're not like spectators, pagans their entry, they're paying their own

and they're and they're and they're to be that they're like, that's like, they're like,

they're like, oh, no, well, I know, well, I know, but you just know, obviously,

they're doing things new ramions new, and they, and if they're some effect

and, and, very they're you, you've you've you've

you've you're you're going to do you know, they're to see to make

what effect new's there to buy the money, the this Joaquin Kotkin

the Mado the Mada the I'm the I'm a a effect where he has a

a scorpion if I'm an one a car a baracka the abr the

people choose a card at azar, but are barrajas like, like,

like, like, like, the cartas. Like, those of tarot, or both?

Ah, and all right of the tarot. So, barrages of tarot. So, the person

he's a card, suppose we suppose, the murder, the get,

the scorpion, and it goes to the scorpion, peser to a carp a car, and the

carl, the scorpion of the collar, and the Scorpion and the

car is the card that's a card is the character is of the he, and he

said, he said, he said, he got a much money. Garo much money for that effect of

magic. And he's he bought the rights, but he can't be in

States United. In the States in America, no. In Latin America,

yes. In US Unites. And it also. And he's a same with George

No. No? You know, they'll one one a single once. And yeah.

And they're not they can't superrental. So the negotiation is so. No.

For example, Jorge Blas, he's of United, to do the to do you to make,

although be this effect of illusion, and I know, I know, I know,

I know, that's a detail, that for to be a one of 20 or 10 or 100

times, you're to discover it probably but if you get a mechanism and then you

do you do you do you do you can't do you do you depends of what?

If it's an illusion a possibility not have the is of public

yeah or you you can put a variation and you know there's

there there there is that we we're we're we're

we're something of whatever you know that we're in we're

the notion, we're in how function the way to how functioned the way the techniques with cards

the variations or even of the cases, we have the we know the

when it's a single once a one one just we say oh oh,

ooh me I'm here we're we we're we

we're we is very good idea, it's a very original. So, a thing that a little bit normally I would

normally here, it's a car, it's like, clear, it's like it's like you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, and you know, and you're a lot of intuition, you know,

you know, to try these components, has been to see, so, so, but, obviously, there are effects

of magic that we're we're we can't, we can't be 20 of the 20 know how it's.

Of what depends that's? Of what depends the effect magical to not able to discover the that is

that new? That the technique is a new or that not so that's a technique

depends also of the effect or of the the entorn or the routine that he

gave the the man for a a a

man that is Javier Mortimer, that's in The Illusionist. It's very viral in on the social, in TikTok, and all that.

It has a trick where he starts levita and grab a cord, and generally, the people can't think, or that's called out like, with two cables,

of the cintura to be up. And, and then he he's got a and he starts this around

like if he would be being like he's like he's

so he pass a he pass a other then when he then when

they're also the other also also the but a

word like you you you see so he's I was

in so I'm not just not that that's not that that's not really

in the show of Illus in the show of So, literally, we were... Firmes two magos

and my noviour, to City of Mexico to see that show exclusively. That was, Joaquin Kottgin, the Mago of the Media Barba. And we saw, we're going to... No, it's that... It's that... How...

How it did? I mean, it's the cord. Or, so, where it has... ...could have cables, if you get to have cables so, so... ...alterated. The cord... topar.

So, it was an effect very, very good. And that day we had we got to get a

bad, because at final, I mean, I'm to go to my show.

I said, I said, I said, and I said, and yeah, I said, and I'm,

and I got, I got, I'm excited, my abel, my my

old, my is, he's, and I'm a, and I'm, and I'm

really, I'm very all that. And at final of the show we've seen a Joaquin Colkin, because we know us. And, and, and parro the camionetta where

were all, he said, take some photos with all. Ah, that's cute. So, now let's go, yeah, we'll take photos with all. And there's, Kevin James, Kevin James is a Mawa of Las Vegas, that has been DeLuasionis, since that he has been the record

Guinness of the best trick of magic to the history. Where he has a A lot of a little has seen a

person has been a person and then a and then derby's and thenerce the and thenerce the and he's down

and so over the and no see nothing about and he's not about and then he'll go He'll Heir,

and he'll go and the and the and then he's going to and then he's gonna

and then he's and then he and he he acquesta the and he he gets the and he starts

and he starts to get a again that you're again so that's that's catalogued as the

first trick of magic the history wow wow no that's the most the trick

of the decision is it's a elaborate not, how there are

areas in the magic there are types of magic? Yes. Muchis

or are many? If there there are many, for example you can do magic

of close-up which is magic a circle with cards, monel that's

one. And then magic infantil magic for adult magic

of Salon. What is the difference in the magic salon? The magic of salon does magic

like a scene of a so like you do you know but you're usually in a little close up.

Yeah, sure. So, you know, the person, you're at the people,

you're in a mess, then you do you know, that's a car, you know, you know, also, you have a show

of, the scenario, in the scenario yeah it's enfoca in presidigitation, manipulation with cards?

Yes. How do you do Jeff McBride? Jake McBride? No, no, I don't know. It's a guy of Las Vegas that for me is of those that are the most of

money. Well, and the Chinese, are still doing many Chinese. It's impressive. That's interesting. Yeah, it's really? All right.

All what they say in China has to be in a level local. It's, uh, illusions, grand, great, and,

like, for example, yeah, there are the the cages that they're cut, and, not an style,

a gender can be levitations, this, scapism. I have an act of magic

of scapism that's with some, some, some, some, some, some,

some, some, some, some, they're, literally, I'm, amarrated

of the feet, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, a carmise

of force. So, so, uh, that up there's some quijas

literal, like some those mackas like you that's a little bit of the film I was

I'm going to see to be and I'm I think that I think that's you've seen where the

police I think is in the four or in the five I'm I'm where the

where the police is there incajada with some churro of picos

with some kikas and not no so far and

they open and and it's and it's all yeah the same

but to the inverse me have to get because if so it is a but I

am I'm a case of a and I'm that it has what it has a

one thing that is a minute the the risk is real yes is real?

is it's men is but like the like the like is armed

but obviously we're exempts to the fallo. Yeah. So,

obviously, if there can be a faller in various things. For example, it can fall

at the more in that they see, before the time, so that me can't a lot,

or it's got to get a head, and I'm a marra and I'm not,

so, not, you know, not practically is to get to be the

I'm a question different. The mandibulas are real? Yes, if they're to get them to get a lot of time, you know, if you're

to get you, do you, to let me, if you're if you're to say, if they're sponges,

no, no, no, are sponges, no is uly, no is plastic, all is of metal. The pure mandibulas

peser around of 100 kilos. So, so, so pesaditas. So, tremendous. And when you

when you're when you're not you you put nervous? Yes, for the hour of practice, at

principle, I practiced, I'm a case, the head was here, the soil was here. First,

the escape of the shirt. So, then we obviously, I mean, obviously,

we have, we have, we're, we're, when we get a risk, or the

could be to be bad, suppose, we're not going to not be so,

but, it's, can be soldar a bottle, a and I'm going to

get to a foot. If I'm effectively, the lot I use, one only will want to

my piece. So, so I'm so I'm so, for a thing of equilibrium.

While, to be being, I'm just to be a end up, so, so,

all the people that's behind to, one, we're to know

to be black, I'm back, and me they'll, I mean, so, yeah,

sacrifice the, the function of that day, for so say, in instead of saying,

ah, no, because, that's like, we're going, we're going to sacrifice the

function of this day to be to be more days, no? To be to be

to make to make sure to be so, so, so, like, for what

we're we're so, and then when we can be to be real,

so, it's like, you, sortal it, that's this trick in the function, but that

there's more functions. For suppose. There's an effect of scapism where me emplagian to a poste, a tube, literally, me emplagent

all the body, and I don't me can't move. They're the cartina, and when it's the assistant is the carlety is the carlina, and I go, I'm shal the courtina, and the assistant now is emplagiaed.

We'll change the place. So, it's too rapid. in that effect one a friend he's doing

in some part of the effect he cuted the yams of the three the thumb the little

the end of the little was preended it was like so, polgando yeah

of the second and the third I was like a cut a

profound but but it not it disrends the that was the

thing little. And one of the magos with that we were, it was like, cancel it

all, it was in the moment we were to go back, cancel all, and I

had radio, I was, I was in the production, not was in show, I was in the production,

and I began me water, take me out, bring in this, trygons, and they're

to try all, and let's add that water, and then again, and the other

mago, and the other macko is the so, the so, then,

so, so, with the hand, what are here here there's here go in

a cola-loca. And then we're like a co-a-loca, way? Dice, is what they use in the

in the security? Diss, is what, is in serious? He said, what is in the same

impris, but it's is a, is a, it's a very very good, he's,

the, the, he's, the, he's, he's, and it's, and it's,

and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, he's, and I'm and it's, but,

it's, he's, I'm, and I'm, he's, I'm, look, look,

how, normal? Normal, he pego, I, he gave, I, I think,

this yema, but, it was, the, the, the, that was the, that was,

Lebe, and he's, like, like, wow. So, there's a, I mean, there's a risk enormous, and also, if no, you know, the practice, the risk, so it's potentialized. Well, as a lot more, no is enormous, I mean, we're, to, of,

to be, of, what's possible failures, for to fall as, as far as, sure. So, so a little, put, you that in that effect of magic, that, where he's cut

the mague, well, the risk can be a 6% of that you're

that you lastimes. If that out of the more, the that's that's

a little more. This, because if you confi you can't in the

other person. So, if you do you do you do you can't

in the you will be in position or that will be

in accommodated. It's a lot. There's many videos where, suppose, I'm going to, the tela, and the magua,

and the person still doesn't be accommodated. Ah, yeah. It's, I have to know when to

have to have done, and I have to be in that person that's in your position. Or,

yeah, it's, you know, you have to have much practice for the timing. Yes.

Yes. Yeah. I mean, there are effects of magic that I know that I

knows, know that a more in a little

time we know the rhythm but when it's

new that not is oh we have to

do so it is too you start too

you don't be natural so so so that

so so kind of so and among we know

we know we we always is the lay, that there are magos that are in the scene. Why? Because, as they're

how they're in the illusions, so, as they know how it works, they're in the order. They know when there's a risk.

Yeah. Or a, a producer normal, as the more, as a no-connoissell the illusion, no, where is the risk? Uh-huh,

no, where is the risk, or, for example, when the magos if, if you get to give to the person

that's the person that's he's going to be a quirk so you yeah yeah,

so the producer not, because the mag try when he's when it's

he to get to make that not that that's that fallo or that was

part of was adred yeah was a yeah he said ah was part

of the show but a but a man knows when a

the effect or when something will go to do you don't I'm not I'm talking about about

about the illusions small. For example we've seen a much we've seen a mango in

I think was here in Monterey yeah where he was here he was a reproote

and recompu famous where you grab you get some a period you, you know

you rompes so plas and soplas this other that's the other

then he was and he he started the I was and just just to see

to go to go to go to he's he's he's he's he's

he's he's he's he's he's his technique is too he said

I'm and when he goes he went all the those the people

he said and there there was like there so there so

they're obviously of he was And it's Saly. So, it's out of tromago. He's got a pressure.

Yeah, yeah, we go, well, a little, a little, it's not, how you repone

of that's, how you repone when a trick when a big, with a public I've passed, me have passed,

me has passed, that I've cuted you on a scenario. Ah, so? Yeah, I,

I had, I had a case of a case of a case, and and encahas, I,

encahas, encas, 10 kuchillos and a spada for above. For I to prove that the

were reales to do you to do you and it's it's not like the navajaso for so

say it's when I'm rebaen the I'm rebaed the dead but no I didn't so I'm

so I'm and I see a lotitas of sand in the soil and I

did what is who who's who I'm so I look

my man and my man so oh ooh oh you were

my man and you And yeah I went to my ball me

and the was where I'm the I'm handi and I'm didn't and I

didn't and thenterra and the people yeah like no not about I was

was it was because it was to get to but of the past me

was then I'm yeah encahed the and then after I'm a serviette

so to so parted that the parted that the are very scandalous

you just you cut you're just you're all the sandreroe for all the and I'm

I'm I don't think that's all that's all that's that's that's that's

okay if you have to you've done you that you have

to do you do I'm I'm I'm so illusion

great no um with cards so the card? The other card is this?

No. Oh, no. No, no, no. That's... In that point, I can't arreggler. With the techniques

adequate, I can't do you do you do that I'm with the Drede. Yes. With different

techniques. But, of a repent, if it's a true, more great, I mean, I'm referring to

more, with a routine more long, of cards, where I tell you this is the

card of the final. Let me say to have to have the grand final. And I'm out of magic. In this effect of magic, there are various remates of magic. The four aces and all. Ah, bravo. This. So, they're accommodated here. The rojas.

The black. And the last card. What card you did you? I mean, five of trebol. I mean, and the last three of carasone. U.S. You're saying, that's not, I can't rebuttree. Yeah. That's yeah.

If you said, that's been to put it to real, because you have all right, you know, so you, you're going to, and then you said, in the grand final, you're not, well, then, then, it's always, it's always like, oh, no, it's gonna be. And, you're gonna pass to nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, they're much the effect in the public, and so, or is... No, the people, says, ah? The person, yeah. So, no, perfor. You said, you're salient, you said, you said, you're saying, you're,

one, you say, or one of them one of them took it, this is for to demonstrate, this is to show you

human and also I'm a little perfect. I'm not so. The person is a carcatch. Yeah,

the people see, and it's, like, it's the person, in personality, of one

person that is a person who's want to do the artes magicas? Patience.

I mean to have to have a chorre of patience and for my good

has a person that has a person that has a word if I

understand that you can't do you do you start going to

you about the marcha like who says but if you

not you know about to improvise or to get

to when something when they they they do

do do do do do you do and not

you do For example, the video that you've seen, that video, it's like many things are improvised. The thing, there's all of the cards and all of that.

It seems like much things are improvised. And in reality, all is exactly equal. It's a routine. It's a routine, yes.

I'm a doubt. How entered to the magic? Viento. Viento TV? By-tele? ...the chiquito, there was a program...

There were two programs. One was the Mind Freak, of Chris Angel? Yes. And I was, I was, wow. Inconsientlymedly, I said, I've got to be a trick of camera. Because it's like the... No, I think that you know.

No, I think that you do you do that. But in reality, not didn't know... And then, it was made a truce of camera or no. And then, it was... ...theirmeil the mackered. Exactly. But, the air...

Because that program of the mom mascarad is the old I'm going to the first emission

was like in the 90 5 if no me I'm so I'm so I'm

remember that I remember that I was like 2007 in the channel 5 a

retransmission yeah so so so I was evilsions grand and revelable

illusions little and then it was good, and then he came a program

that's called, well, it's called nothing about that he

has four of the most of the one is Jorge Blas another

is Louis Piedryta and another is Jandro and there a

manga that's there's the Magerate is of the Mager of

Spain yeah that that that tremendous. I know it for a comedian. Yeah, no, it's good. I have a book. Wow.

He has a book of magic with monedas. Yes, and is good? Good, good. It's of the best magos of Spain. That tremendous. No, no, I know. Good, good data for to look it. And, too, he's music.

I mean, Louis Piedraita, is all. Yes, Louis Piedraita is of the best comedians of Spain. It's of the Mejores Madoes of Spain and they're good

music. It's a really, it's really really. All the way, he does it. He's all the way,

it's a as a comedian. No, no, I know no, I'm not going to YouTube, and me

top for a routine that I'm in the of the naranjas? It was one of the

first that did, I don't know the of the Naranhas. Because you were

to I'm I'm something. Possibly, yes, that says, the an ananca

for the orange, or for the orange? If it's that. And that starts.

And that's that. It's super interesting, how it was to constructing things

and it. And at final, I did who is this type? And there

there, there, there, there was, there was, there's a weird,

no, one, one, one, one, a guitar, the, he's

but a piano, not so, not And, well, of the best. That's tremendous.

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a month of vacations, he said, that day I program for start with my family and no

I'm going to do events of any type. And that's the month and the and then, and then,

no, no, no, we can't bring us to make on the internet?

Yes, but they're in the month that he's in the months

are the men, are the generally, they're in October. In October. October.

And, and can't come to people people people who are people

people's people I have invited. For example, there are magos that they're going to his spouses, or I've passed to

my husband. The child was this, Brian, was because we're invited us. Um, well,

most all the magos or can't get to their wives or their spouses. Almost, no, they're never,

because they're pure men, and also the three days complete, from the 9 to the morning to the

four of the morning to be doing to be convention of conversations, shows, uh,

master class, you need to reveal things, compras articles of magic. So, techniques. Conferencing?

Of what type of conferences can't be? The masterclass and I'm the true, no? For example,

in the conference, a little came in October came to the October, he was one of the

consultants of David Lane. Yeah. So is of the better. He does magic with cards and has very good technique, but very, very good

technique. And, he explains has a effect of magic and all is that wow, is this way, how he does it? And in the conference, it's how it's a play of magic. First, it does, and then it's he'll explain, and it's

a pass-by-past. There are things that you can't grab, things that no, because a lot also also they're also, they're saying, but if you want to show them, but if you want to see, there's a little bit, there's the DVD. You know, yeah, there's

that people that say, grabame, no pass absolutely nothing. And then what's the of the rights of the author that we've about us a lot? For what you're saying, the trick? If you, no, you can't use.

Dependent. Depend, the effect. For example, those effects are of them, but not are registered as as a total. then say, ah,

those I'm how is that? For example, you when you when you do you or when

public it can't be able to you know, no, no, he has, no,

he, the mag, the, does he, does he, does he, or he does he

does, private, all, yeah. But, there's a company that's a

name, um, I think legal not you can't say not the name of the mark,

eh? This, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, but it's dedicated to make to make and he very good

for camera and when you get the products and you're too, it's too, you know,

you know, you know, you can't do you to, for, for, for, to use,

to use, it, and in the part of back, he says that you can't

do it, or or not even to not even to show. And you like, so,

so, so it's for what it's, but not you can't do you do you

do with the way, or you do that's a lot in, in camera? A

what more, is the angles. Ah. A more I'm to, I'm just,

that's just to be a person that that's in front. But if you know, where you see,

you're, yeah, see, all the truth. So, you're so, you're,

so, so, so, so, So, there's a very famous that when

it was made very, very famous because it had effects very good, but when us came to

it was like, ooh, no, I'm not do it, or it's not difficult, more than

more than just, more, more than more I can do do not more do with light, or no more

I can do do when, they're in the most limited things. Yes, or no more

I can do do with three people here because if I have one more yeah that's interesting Duda, what The Mago has to be someone very observable or is more than a routine

and meticulousa? Observator, in what sense or for what? That's the doubt. He's important the public details that have to be the public or the comportament human and that

of there obtain information that they serve for what he will do, or is more than a routine a pinn't and that's you have to get to do.

No, if when I know, when I'm I'm going to when I'm when I'm

when I'm when I'm doing to so I'm so I'm so I'm that person applaud or what person

I'm more. I'm sure that routine of magic like, that has various chistecitos. And those

small chistecisites. This, I see who can't have partied in front. So,

yeah, I know who does it a pain to let me to let me a carcajada as a

like, that's, of that, that's, that's, then, then you're that's,

I'm, I'm, you, come, you, and you're, yeah, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, they're, I, those, I'm, so, I'm,

so, I'm, going to be ridiculous. Perfect. I mean, I'm doing to

make you know, but I'm can't give partied for how they're to make to get to

questions. Perfect. Like, for example, chisters typical of, what is your name?

And, yeah, me they're saying, uh, Francisco. And then then I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, and then they're, and then then I'm, and then

all, ha, and then then we said, well, so, so, so,

So, yeah the people start to start to be able to You're doing to start doing the patiniage. Exactly.

This, this, that I'm saying, we'll say, and with this year, it's like two years

or a year or a year and a while a child, a child, was a child said that she she said that

she was like, as a representative of the salon, and we're talking that

she was in primary. She was in a area perifurica of Monterey and in that

time, I was a day of yeah it's connected to it's a year to have

a lot of a lot of a lot of a little in a little bit in a house in

that was a thing that was a was a bad and there and there

was a there was there there was there I don't think

in that I think that were in my people and the

day that I'm was the present the encaragada of the banion. As we're

living in the circumstances that I'm in the charge of the house of the house and it has to be that the

end of the end of the end of the day, it's able and it's well, well,

then, then we go to go to yeah. Before to go, before me, or,

before I'm to go to get to the back, I'm to give to the bayon, I'm,

I'm, the door, and the door is a piece of start to starter, as if someone

had been had been closed and I'm a lot of and I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry

I'm I'm sorry I'm sorry because I'm a little the car of a little but I'm

not really but I'm so I'm and then I know the door the bayon the bayon

said I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm nothing I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm the door the door I'm

I'm not here I'm I'm I'm I'm reponement. No could go to the school,

no parable to I'd think of in that. And if the day of you I know was a

thing I'm a little something that I'm took over that but but great stories,

brother. And also always say that when you're not are that's that's

very far. It's that there is that there's there's there's if they

are not there are because if are there are not

normally not are very good and not because a soul purgand, no, no, those creencers. It's because they're a mentality

of the and the people when romanticize much the infancy is that they put them like they're

like they're very good but the reality is that the children in those first years of

life, not have a moral constructed, and that has to experiment with the world

there. There are many very crueles, very crueles. All they all they

did they they're very amable? Qualt is that you're talking, who knows,

if it's cruel, is very cruel. And the other is that many of those cases, or is one of these two entities, or

very well, or very bad for what I general are very extremists in the stories that they're not

that they're that they're that they're that way, that's not you're doing to experimenter. You,

crets in the demonies? Yes. Why? This, because I'm very meodoso in this

aspect. I mean, not is the, oh, no, I'm going to

happen something, but it's like, no, I'm like, I'm

like that doesn't not you don't do you do, yeah, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I mean, I, so,

I, I'm, not, I'm going, so that, I, I,

I, I, I, I, a person to, a, uh,

of, uh, of cabra, or, no, no, no, nothing of that

of that but I think there entities that are very very

and powerful that can do what we we're we're so

we're there this is a story that I want to know more

closer if if someone know if the exorcist

of the Vatican that was the father Amort he

he he wrote a grand divulgator that he he wanted to know that he

lived as a exorcist was real. So he he worked on medical, he worked on with the man with some chiquotas

and he said, there are many times no, many times no, there have nothing to be with a position.

But there are in those and that were more than they were in those damaged, those

those that were not they were those who were people who were persons with people that were there are

different types like of personality personalities but I do when you start this type of things,

you say, ah, it's an exorcism the more you say, you know, I'm making a demonious,

ooh. How, how, when you, a person and he says, is that my my

son's a demon, I'm that's a exorcism. Yeah, it's like, what

you have happened for you think you think that's that's just, so,

so it just to say, uh, and that and that start because at the

final of the person with schizophrenia with schizophrenia with problems mental and there are problems

biologics that are there's a problem to be able to do you know well you're just you're going to

get to go and we're we're going we're going so they're so they're seven or eight factors

those that so they're and if they're in the great majority of those you can

be you're that maybe is a exorcism but before of that

to the day of day of it's very, to get them, for the body you're going to a group of a little bit of a

person, and then after practice one, I was, I said, they had to come to a person and then they're to pay the permission to practice them.

And so, Yes, of course, the obisps, yeah, for their investider, yeah are exorcists. But apart, they're assigns to form express. But there are very

many many. So, when the exorcist cre, that if is a try to a case of possession and want to do an exorcism, needs to be

permission, and if not do you do do it, and if you know it can do do so, and not do it so right is a very protocol for situations

of the past, that they need to bring protocol. But the Padre Amorta about this, and this is very because he gave a point

in which is a person sumament rational, a person sumamentary, also very creyent. And he says, there are people that si are things that did not

things, and there people who have many times of life here, much more than the time than they were and are in ushurt. And those people

are standing there and have powers over humans. So he had that if top and in those books that

he did he did there are various stories in that he has got to with those

that were human and that's for this type of of pactos demoniac but

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