HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias aterradoras de Tarot Espiritismo y Mediums | Ep 185|Ft. Meli

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

¡Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a un nuevo episodio en  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE  el día de hoy estoy super contento porque nos acompaña una invitada muy especial, la buena Meli, quien es miembro de la Familia Nocturna. Meli tiene dones desde que era pequeña y ha vivido bastantes historias escalofriantes, presenciado fantasmas y espiritus desencarnados que no han trascendido y que buscan su ayuda, prepárate para escuchar sus experiencias mas escalofriantes con el tarot y sesiones espiritistas, porque llegó el momento de que  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE  Hablemos de lo que no existe es un canal de you tube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022 su primer episodio fue vivo en un casa embrujada en el que una chica narro sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de este canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de este canal , la familia nocturna creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz. Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados. La comunidad de este canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando esto tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenido El duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora. En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado .

No, has a rostro, and this type and he gets a trying to my way to make a way of the way disalmated.

When I'm despirto, no I'm there's a front of me, but I'm a man on my car that

is a and I'm going to be and I'm going to be a person human. And in

that he's a bit of a type like if were a mancha that's that's

expanding in the the techo like like some a

some and she And she said that he said to talk to believe me. Melisa, Melisa, for favor, Despertae, Melisa. Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new episode

to Let Mealemus of what no exists. The day of today, I'm very content and I'm excited because here in the studio us accompany Meli. And she is a member of the family nocturna.

Today, despite to continue all the program, me just said, that's lamented all the episodes and also of chronicles is here to tell us stories,

because I have to say something. The last doing recopilation the person that we does a help you know,

you know, you have to hear this story, the narrator. When I revised the story,

there was a little data that said that Meli had the possibility to be here in the studio and

I said, we're going to be a good and it's a good, it's an honor to get to here.

How you very? Very very. Thank you. Tell me a little for the

family nocturn, those who have have been still the day of

the opportunity to be the time to be the studio. How you feel is the realax? It's a what you can

see a little in the no, no, no, right? Now, now. Now, is the doubt of

many, you're still the episode, then you you're still the channel, it's probably that's

there's a year. And the people planted, Ais, narrator, you have,

you've seen that has seen that have been there's they said, oh, is that you are the

good, you're the villain. After this moment, and for what you're you're

you're like the good of the history in let's the or the person? You're the

narrator? Point Intermediio? Point Intermedi. So, I can go to go to any of the two

sides. It's the first description that me super convien. I'm I'm

got to thank you. Thank you. Oh, one once said this, thank you

for being, thank you, thank you that was like so, like a very

accelerated this reunion, you know, you know, and you're a lot of a lot of a little.

Tell me, for favor, there's stories that you just said, I just said, I don't want,

I'm going to hear the question. I'm to make a question. I mean, me kind of

that you think you're in the paranormal, and I'm the question or what situation was that you

did you to say, okay, if What, no. A- Let's see, well,

I've been always made much the attention to say, I'm saying a little five years, six years,

always had been given the attention much the theme of that's, or phantasmas, bruchas,

things so, and one of the things that you that I wanted for the

radio was precisely that I was, I mean, I was when I was when I

was a little, I felt that there something but I don't see what, I saw

like the classic that the phantasm that's a second I was in I was so I was

to getcha to the carm and I said for for me to get me to go

to work and I need to work I need to I think would be in

kind of a thing a thing I pass the time I

know that my my my papa had many Some are some

are the one of their father of my abel. And I gotrava to learn

those books and many have to be precisely with those

things, with esoterism with the bookeria and lecture of

cartes I would I had about seven years

and I me me was I'm I'm I remember

perfectly to to me one of the one of the two

books that I could read and It's called, Levantando the Cortina

of Rodolf Benavides. That book, I mean, like, me, like, me mark

of some way, he said, and a person, that's the other plan,

but no he's, he's not he's not what what's what's all the

time, and he starts to how is the life, and, that there there,

there another plan that not is visible for us and he started to

this novel from the perspective of this person I would I would I'd so I

really, and I started to investigate about the videos pastas

about the letter of the letter of the letter of the kind of

and those were many many years I think I think about

I tend to one 11, 12 that in some moment I went with some the kids to do you know,

my son me said, no, agar to do you want to be and I'm not the cards of tarot.

Vendian cards of tarot in the jubeteria? Yeah. Okay. This, no,

well, if they'd sell it. Totally. Yeah. Figgate that me to see

to see, I'm to see. But never me took cards of tarot. So, a bit,

let's go, but for a few So I was in the vacations, I was reading and learning the instructions and how you had to read and all. What I did count is that conform I was passing the time,

because I was agarrava to my tia, my tio, to my primes, to read the cards. For me it was a game. But the theme was that it was a point that I continued, I continued, and I did count of that

not were, not the cards. Like, like the response of what

was the word or the symbolism that had the kind of the card, like, I was,

like a thing, so, that was, so, they put in the case, like,

a photo in your case, and that's what I had to say, and so

I think, I think, I think, I, just, I've been to, I've been,

the cards. It has been intermittent but apart of that has been many things I've passed

to be phantasmas when I was a my mom they said Melissa is Marisa is

Caja and is that my mom nobody was nobody so nobody's that I'm

at that in peace I'm saying that I that I'm that I that I that's that

I said I was I said, Abolita, not gripa. I mean, I don't know.

I'm going to get to be done to see things, of a repent to be things. I was, like, in

my house like, be more prudent to that respect to that, but, this,

so, it took to me to be many things, then I, and I ,

for example, that, that's, that the little, the girl, is that, then,

when I, More or I mean, I think I think I think I'm

18, 19 years yeah me metia to investigate more to the respect,

I'm with a person that me to know to do because

I was a point that I could control I'm so I'm

like, so I like, how you get a you're you you're

you you're things, first I'm never was a so

a so I'm a so when you you're so

you're super, super can't after a day of a time, I mean, like,

you know, like you know, how you're not, you know, the left of the

right to the right, so I'm so I'm really, I'm super can't have and then

they were to get a mind, like, words, words, messages, this,

messages, messages, messages, or messages, or, things like a lot

not only not only of the person that was with me in that moment.

So, if I took to help, because, although I don't want to get in

that I'm to do it, could be a thing a problem, would be a problem a

little, I didn't know to know how much to do it, so I had to

help to get a people that if should to be to be to be

to be to because if is a thing is a thing,

it's, it's, so what has have talked many years,

I mean, or what you have talked of the stories that they're so, the

there's, that you know, you know, to the point could get to get to

the mal of the to get to control it, because many that that's

that can't that I had to get to manage, that I'm in danger, obviously.

Yeah, so, then I'm to, I'm, like, to, what,

what you want to say, what you mean, I mean, you know, I,

yeah, I, I, Question, in the TV I'm a very conscientious you're going to

you're doing to see your you're in sure you can't make you know, just want to just want to

talk about you and I'm not I'm not I'm talking with a person expert that he has

dedicated to a person who has to be a person who lived on some people and from

those experiences and from those I'm so I'm so so the responses

that me does not are of a guru that you're explaining to

the person is trying in the thing you're to do you do this context? Yeah, no

and is that so it's that's the there's a there's a there's there's a yeah,

or if I was to say, I was to learn to a respect to some thing,

I know, angels or this, pendulos or, there's much of there. But I

investigate about what I was thinking in this moment what I, or so,

what I perceived in that moment the first that I saw a one of a spirit,

a phantasm was like that's obviously, obviously, I'm so I'm so I'm

need to investigate, because I'm doing this, I'm going to this is, I mean, because

you know, because you are doing? What was what you did? Oh, you know,

to generate a problem? No, no, is that is that I'm thinking what's

all the first? The first, first, the first I think I remember of the most important.

Adelante. We were, we're, we're in the career, we're in the school and all

I mean, I've always been very open to respect to what I see. And an companyer of

the career me said, hey, you know, we know, I need to go to you know

to be you see what you are that they're seeing, like, I need to help you

know what is to be what's the we're doing the house and other three friends and we're

two friends and we have been to be one of the most big, a house very,

a house of the one of the one of the most that I've seen, the house

she said her house, he's a house, has a and then he was

like a balladero. Okay. And we were there in the quarter that was

precisely that And I started I I'm asking, like, to be, well, is that what has

said, no, what happened is that's, he was, a friend, that I live here at here

and they were, they were, they were in being, they were talking to the door, she'll be in

a lot of my family they're all they're just but to me not, then I don't so,

so I'm not, so I'm to be certain to be a to see a something, if I was something,

something and we were we're in a mess like

a one a big a round and I was

I was down to the door that was yeah

in I was I was I'm so I

see a a woman that a woman that

there there was that I and I to us

we me a really I mean I'm sorry I'm gonna because

she was she was a girl a girl very with the skin grisacia

a a I remember that was like a like a like a

sort of a like the problem was that her

was that she was disfigurated completely of the mandibura

like a accident of questions of violence. So, I see,

like, like, just like, just like, just like, just that's, you know,

is that is that, here, it's this, this woman she disbarranco before,

after many years. Like, she, she, I said, he said, and here, for so

they have seen here, and then, and then, he says, he goes, and I said, and I say,

she, she, she, she, she, but the really, I don't want

to be the eyes, because, see see the image of her

kind of still, I know, I mean, I'm I'm a quarter and me

I'm really a so you you're you're in the second sense

so the people so the people's in the moment, so how you know,

when you did you the raskos that had in a cadaver or if you were

seeing blood, things like if were a recent? No, like a like a

like a like a like a yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah and she

know, to know to you? Yeah. How you know? Because I was doing?

Because I was doing. Yeah. Okay, okay. And when they were when I

gotcha the head and I saw the eyes and he didn't get to do you?

No. No, no, no. She was enclated to the house.

She was enclared to the house. For the accident.

Yeah. Suppones or is a actually? No, it's that's very,

very rare. So, I'm like, like, if they put it a mini a movie in

my head. I, so, I, I, I, in,

in my mind, I, see, I, see, that's that was the

image that was that was so I thought that was that was,

yeah. The the movie that you've seen, it was in black, or a color? A colors. A colors. If it were

a format or if were the size of a panace, you're talking to a camera of a camera, a camera of a cellular?

No, it was like, you remember, the cameras that were of those small? Yeah, that was a project

on a page. Ah, that's it was a so, so it was, so it was,

okay, okay. And, you had a sound, or only was the image? No, only was

the image. You were being like if the camera so it's a camera, so of a

so, of a sudden, and you're very close the rascals, of the repents, or all you

see from or all from? No, all right. No, it's not. No.

You know, you know, you know, you know, from it's from the way, or just I'm

like, what happened to the first plan. So, is it's occurring that's yeah,

yeah, interesting. Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, divisions are very very

very much or it's like no, I'm going almost for example if I'm

a a premonition almost that's that's always I'm going to

put an example my visabuela I was I can't to know my

visa abuel for the general when they were in vacations we we were we

I'm perfectly that we were we were we're planning that

we to have to be her birthday. My Isabola was a

grand and I know a lot I'm not a but I'm not

to be I'm in I'm talking about about my mom about if

we're going to to my bice abuel because I

was I'm also so like so it was so like

so it's and of the nothing I made

so I came so so that we like

we we we we we we Like, like a

movie like like a movie like that's, and we're saying, you know, you know, I'm saying,

you know, I'm saying, is that we're saying, I'm saying, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going, but I'm go. You know? You know,

or no? Me. He said, no, yes, we, we're we, we're,

we're, to be to be the bice, abelah, to the five days fellissue.

So, like, that was, that that vision me I get to, I mean,

I mean, we're going to be a lot of the last that we're going to do you. How you how you

did you know, because I'm thinking that you have two phases in what you live as. Phase number one, you know, in

the case of the visions, you're seeing something like a mode of a political, phase two, you know

for example, you're a woman, then you see a person, and the person, it's your

occurred in the past and it occurred here. Uh, In the case of Toawee, did you have to convivir with her

Yeah. Yeah. What was what was in the movie? That we had, or so, like, we were to be there

on her, in her birthday. Ah, you've seen the on the year? Okay, not alarmant.

So, then what was what you to say, we need to to say, we're going to be,

I mean, is that, I don't know to explain it, it's like, I'm, I, I'm,

I'm, I, I said, that we had to be there because we're going to

we're going to we're going to you're going to you. Okay. You're good reading to the sensations and

expressions and expressions of the persons? I think so. Okay. For your work, for questions that you

have done for the time, yeah, it's a experience that you're saying, but you're

but you're about that movie that was just a thing that so it's so that so,

I mean, I mean I remember that we're that the vision that I had I

had been in the house and that's like we're we're going to be there. Okay. We had we

have to be their expressions were the color of the movie or it was a sensation that was a

thing that was it was a like it was the last the final that we were to be yeah

yeah yeah yeah then it's like it's the image came apart with a

shock emotional and the shock emotional you you interpret that's so is very interesting

There was a time in my life, for example There was a time in my in my life in the I kept without my I'm saying

so much like seeing that you're saying to work, you have to have to do you have to do you

know, I'm going to learn the cards and I did I'm in my house to learn

the cards I'm a company a ex-companero to a job and he he's

he's that I need that I need the and he goes and And he said, no, is what, you know, I said,

you know, I said, to let the cards. And me said, why? If I so, I go, I said, no. I said, I said, but it was like, like, intuitive. Or so, yeah, yeah, so, is that, I don't know how to explain to it. It's like, for example,

if you, this, you put, like, empathic with the person. So, like, you try to, like, to put those so pats, I don't know but I I was just I was I was thinking

and I said is that you know you're not you know I'm in that you know it's

your your your your your your because you don't know

because that he was like he was like project for the face or because

you're because you're that I'm about ambas ambas both and both

he's he's he's that is that is that is that if I so no

I don't I don't I'm I'm I'm a little a rato,

that I'm very malas, I'm very explosive, something, I'm

going to be going to get a okay, he said, well, I go, what I'm

what you to be, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, someone to be

saying, I said, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm doing, but I'm

saying, I'm, and I said, because, he's, because he's here

he's he's, and I he's, and he he's, he's a a man,

if he's so I said, I said, I know, I'm saying, I'm going

I'm I'm going to I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm don't I'm

I'm a word. So I'm a spirit to you more referring to a person

that the soul, is the other person? And it goes, no. That's

not, that's a person. That is? That is other other other thing.

No, me in those things that's exceed my capacity. Without

my specific. I mean not an spirit of a human human for where

you end up around around this essence. I'm I'm going to get to a little

or something. Yeah. Or something a malyvolo. Yeah. It was was a

yeah. Yeah. So, so. And me and I said, and I

said, I said, it's like is like it's like is like so it's

I'm describing, I'm the part of the outside of my house, the the wall is the wall of the house,

and I'm in the man, and I'm like this, like, I'm saying,

but he's could be to get to get, because I, because I do the a repent,

I'm, I'm, there's spirits that that are that I'm that they're that's

that I'm going to, so I'm put to certain in my house. And I

can't not, no can And, so, I said, you know, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I'm going to recommend to someone. I said, I said, because this is the, I said, I said, I said, I said, I said, I. I said, because this, yeah, I said, I was, that, is, is, what I was, is, it's, is what was your limit and that so it was

because I don't know the time. I mean, I don't know to make a thing that I know I know. So, is met me to seegas in, in, in something that could be, that's more dangerous.

What repercussions? No, you've been because you're pretty prudent, but what repercussions anticipes that can pass? Well, a raise of that, and that's

saying, that I, I mean, I, and is that's real, I mean, I'm in my house, I have certain things of protection, precisely that the environment

in my house is the more tranquil possible and more in that time that I constantly

was receiving people so much energies and I'm what I said when when

when I went to I was to you don't come to tell me a chist

and to talk to me to talk because you know you because you know

that energy that that they're that they're that they're looking to who they let the

the letters and you're because they're a problem me in an energy, then, no,

of the total positive. So, so I always always had to have like to have something to be my house.

I was the house protected. After that was that was this child, I was out of the time,

I was out of my husband stayed in the house. I was much a reason, because my spouse no

cre. I mean, so, it's to maintain the margin. So, like,

no, so, so, In a certain way. Of a certain way. So, no,

no, no, it's, not, no, I'm going to get a time,

I'm going to a new we're in a perrita, so, and the perrra every

that you let you, you'll have the door of the patio, the, he met,

like, like, all, to get to to the house, to the house, he,

he, he's, he first, they first, they're to, the, television,

it, the, , was a so, we had a desperador, we had a

day, a hour that was the hour of the time, it was, it was to be the nightrogat

and the light, and in the ruses, with the perr, and I said,

you know, you, you know, you're a little and the car, and he said,

and it said, that in one of the one of us he opened the door,

and the parrass, like, so, like, it's like, the door of the patio back, well, obviously,

is the, and there's, the door to the patio to be right, the parr was freeno, and he

started, and wase to a corner, to the, of the kitchen. And he

started, and he, and he, he said, he'll be, let's, mettete, let's,

and, the cheek-a-vente. The perra no, she went to batheed much to to get to

get into, but the person always always always still going to be going to the same

and the other and I did it. I'm a little, I don't know,

but he was he was I, I, I, I, I don't

he, I don't he, what's he was, what's, he was, what,

what is, what is, what is, what is, what what is, what, what,

he said, of that Melissa with his things you know you're a water

and you know, and you get a good at the I'm sure that what I'm

sure that this person said that she did something some remanent of that that energy

and was like perturbating what was the energy of the and you

let me to clean another again again to go to how much

how much time did that that that was a

time the time that you know you're in the time that's the remnant then when you did you do not have no problem or no manifestations no yeah after that's why you know okay okay

that is like a an antisala in the that's starting to present a manifestation but not was the end of complete no no no like I say

I don't know I'm not I'm an expert but I what I would think about is that maybe something of that some bad energy

that was be like she kept there in the house yeah

and you you know you're you know you're not no I'm not I'm not quite

you know why not you know what did you did you did you what you did you

precaution what are what are those you're predispon or those that's

you're you're you're you're you don't you don't

you're those those spirits is like they they're

they're if we're if we're a little a little in this

world of the of the obscurity where they're so when they're

when they're a person that has a little more of they

get so so so so many many they

they're so they're because they're because they're they

they're to give for you or to pay for to

transcend to the other other other but also as well as they're in this type of

spirits, they can be able to get to other type of things. And it's it's a

more difficult that you that you're that you're to get us because obviously are much more more

more fervest so I'm always made more that precaution that because if it's a

thing that's a thing that's a problem that can't be a position. The position is the

act more destructive the risk maximum that is a risk maximum that or there is a I think that

is the top I think I think I'm I don't know I'm like but it's something that it's a lot

and it's a bit of the world yeah, yeah, okay there are there are

there there's that I'm that you're saying just that just I just want

I'm just questions that I'm with Melissa that I'm that I'm getting

in this question because various of the question this time you do this

different angles There are some that fasciners and the stories of terror and it's it's all. He's a very very very strong, but I don't know

in that. I think that's very good. It's very very good. And it's a group and it's a group that's been

that I don't I'm recommend. That's what I'd like so that I would be much that I'm not you know,

you don't have any idea of what you're doing. The relato of the terror is fascinating. It has a

narrative, has a form in the way in the And the people that never, it's rarestim that you get to

get to get in to get in a emotion. You know they're going with trauma, with a fear,

with fear. I mean, I remember that in the secondary, I mean me, I was in

the secondary of that I was a point that I could to be to I'm not

to be being, I'm passed on two or three occasions that standing

you I was just I could I'd have like I'm like that would have a room

but I'm I'd sleeper I'm sorry I'd see a two or three people on the

on me like I just over and so I was just like I just I was just

I was I see that I was there I was there were in there but I I was

not to see they're like not they're not they're are so,

because apart they were a second yeah, I mean, I mean, I'm

the capacity mental and emotional to be to do that the problem is that I'm not,

I'm not so that also, I'm so because not, not it's not,

and I'm also, I mean, I'm just a fan of the podcast, me that's clear.

I mean, I'm glad, I mean, I think it's part of of the point is that I'm not

the only that the that's the thing is the you're doing you're going to you're going to you're going to

do you know, yeah, of the stories that were there's things that have been

things that are not that's there's there's a situation in a situation

very difficult this story has that has a more of

she she's she's mother she's a little her

six years and and has a situation a very

precar but feo does do all what can to gain money

and then is going to get back that's or very very barats or with Rumi but the

fact of the thing of the thing to that's a thing that's nobody like like that because

not one is one and then they're going to think in costs and Ruits

and nobody let's accept so and and it topa with a house

that that's when they they're saying the people that's the person's

that car's that that's that's too bruged. As if, when she says, she says,

a little bit of 50 years, and this chick he says, I'm sure, I'm very very barato for the place,

but they have to get there, minimum six months, the house is inbruched. Punt. I say,

directly. And she, he says, no is that I know I think in those things.

It's that I had an house. They said, no, it's a much time.

We're And it was a raretta, like a little bit of, but then they'd have been asosted with the stories. The house was

in a two-pissos. He was in a barrio, let me very very very not very not a little bit more.

But it was what was used to then I don't see a problem for there. No, we'd have things that

they'd so that I'm preoccupied. And yeah was semi-amuebled to the house. So,

it was a benefit and the renta if the rents was that was costeer.

Well, I'm there. I'm at a little rarer a little bit of and at

a little time I'm to see a kind of a presence in the house. And I

start to say, no, I'm not the suggestions, not your suggestions, you're doing and a

day I do you with a type very extra that's a type tall,

delgado, but very very strong, no has a rostro, and this type to come

to the person to try to make to make to make When I'm I'm

I'm I'm in I'm in my car, that's I'm putting a head and I'm going to be

desivir. It's a pressure that that's a thing that's not the way to get to be not a

human. I mean, there's a person who's, no, it's a pain, I'm a

problem of the skin and the brain and all. So, then I'm so I'm God,

in this thing, in this thing, for for for these and me

put to and I'm put to rest to the moment. I think it and I'm doing the sensation

that I'm doing the car but I decided not to say my my son my son

my what's my my years, that's many years that's many

in the things and and I say, I'm I'm saying, I'm I'm getting

this place in this little and he's you're saying they're saying what's what I'm

what I'm You also, you also know, how I'm in my situation. Well, he says, look, I don't you go to cover anything. Let me go to

get to your house, I'm a little bit of and you. When he gets, they're out of the house, he says,

you know, if you see, you know, if you're something to get a little bit to your

and we're in a two, three hours. She had a cellar a minute to try the name of

the name of and he said, salted to say, yeah. I mean,

I was not I'm going to do you know, I'm going to do the feeling that's there was a thing that was

something like that where I'm going to the stairs there's an big, obese, that no has a rostro

and he's being, and I'm I'm sent a menace that I'm that I'm going to

that case I don't get to that case I don't get to there you, you're you're

this chick has a problem no he's a he's a he's a he's a

he's a he's a and the tipper was very d'n when he did he did the

he did he said in the what I do what I do and he says well minimum I'm

I'm going to get there yeah the house he's a personal and

he took a piece of second she's she's she's she's a duhrom in the

reclama, why not you know me I'd have to do this and she like you know she's yeah,

every rata you're at the door and you get a door at the door and you see, there were moments

in those and you I said, but I gave much fear because you're so you

do you so that what I did, but well we need to we know, we know,

I don't know what's my problem but I know what happened what was

what solution to do that the night of the second day and I had been to

get to get not we're not there's not even I'm sorry I'm over I'm overcarg of the

circumstances or what happened and said but we don't know I'm going to let's get so we're

we're in my apartment I'm a door with a door in the morning

next next we're my name my name my name the door is there the door

you're you're and me said no you you, you abrists in the night. And I go, no, no, I was I. Dice, well, is that if you werest and you not

you werest, you were you metiste, and when I was there was to costada there, but also you were, you know, and all the night me was saying things, mom, that me gave him much me too much of the, then the sheena, yeah is in panic. He has to do something. He says, here, I, you

do you, I'm going to be that something, because in two parrbadeos, now is the night and I go to the

house with my little to the I'm in the I'm in I know because I'm we're going to

my little bit more I'm in the morning I'm I'm so I'm

down a rinko and he and he and he's my mom you know you're not

you're not you know that I'm that's that story comes for one

part is horrible and I top today in the morning with this

story and this story is my very very and I

think you know and I'm a there's a this I'm this is the I'm

many people to be about 60 70s for there her his abuela jugaba

and had a jubbos and other her own her dad of his

father of his parents her own young and so she she has

she has she has given she has a very good herensia and

apart she was a woman very empowered and was doing

his businesses and she's she's she's a she's in the person who's

she's in bruched. All the father is her wife, his wife, she was the woman of

this chica and she and his amissaries she was she was in she was a house

and said yeah the house was in the house was brain, and the But we're

accustomed to us like my my old was like she said she's like just like no more

no more they're and they're and it's and they're not there these people the

people that's that by the old was there was that was

that had been that on a caretta that and and if

someone was then the day the day the day the next

I'm that I came to hear I I'm and I

never did never me passed nothing. It's then, I lived so my infancy my adolescence. My abuel

falleces. I don't have more brothers. My mama was a unica. I'm here

to be the thing. And they're going to going and going and back and back and back and

finally pass the years. I studied a career. I'm a part of we're not

we're we're not we're just we're we're just we're just we're just we're

we're five years passed this. For this you're talking that this

and this It occurs for there 2000 and the two and the

house no pass nothing to the family not the other the

house has the story that's in and a one day

they put a movie that for they're more or

the little he were always that they're all

together and the little and the little the person a

person a an entity spiritual that they they're called Toby.

So then interact with to be in interact with toby in the movie. Toby, very probably it's a demonio. And the little next

begins to say, Mom, there's a house that he's called Toby. And then they're going

to be to say, for me, that's I'm the idea in dreams and yeah.

But at part of that day, the the new starts to get to the

because Toby a a little and a sometimes is a you see. A Sometimes is another

other other thing. It's a little like a little. That a very much

and they're in the extremities and that's good. That when is a little bit but when

it's a catie it's not. The mom says, it's poor imagination of the

people, so are just purest that she never had seen ever ever

never seen anything. The problem is that one the time is the time the

time it's the time sometimes is and sometimes not. And one day

and the little he's going to get to be he's a mom to be he's a lot of the

door and he's here he's here we're we're going to see that so he's you know so if you

see you put it and it's up the lights and they they're they're they're saying

to say to the and say maybe so can't say toby if you

you're there's there's the lights and they they're allas and she

she if there's so if there's there so if All so so it

starts incremental. The little starts to manse with arraeas with

with mordidas and he starts to have a new very fervest and a I know to do you

so, but yeah to do something because really they are doing to do you do you

was like a little time. Not passed no two months when they were like

trying to get used the situation. She she is in the room she's

when I see when I see to say this this man there Toby,

so me dismay in the and the feet and they're they're and they're they're going

to get to me. They're going to say, for me, he's the cabose.

Thanks a God, for my time. I've had opportunities. So, I said to

my party, we're going to put the house in rent. Put in the house

in renta and she me say, narrator, with the time, nobody said,

because even the people said that my house is so I had to put

very maybe we're talking of the same in the two stories, lamentably. It's when

when the I said, I'm way, it's the place that's the place. So, so it's the

a basis, presences, a basis, entities, that are in a place, it's a

time, and that attract, more things, or that a thing,

so that's you're in your experience, you know, what's about this? What is, that's the, if you

you know manage the thing, for example, if they were doing

there's situations spiritists, most certainly something something and if

they were doing the things, it was accumuland the charge of energy and the

charge of people that's started there. So, so, um,

many times that's that's that the place that the place

embruched, so because one of the things that I'm sure in that is that if you're

to work in a in a session spiritist in a ritual with the

whiffa what whatever whatever a connection with the other side

you have to your protection and at term to

despeer to the people or guides or spirits that participated in

that, because if not they're going to get there. And so, I'm going to get to

that's a way. It's a light that's a light that's a light that's a lot of the mosquitoes

around and they're getting and they are getting and they're accumuling. Necess you need to

need to be going to be going to be going to be able it's conformed

they're they're doing the sessions spiritists, if not they're doing the

cleanpia correctly of the place, it was it was accumuland the problem is that

if I'm commular that's a over-carga and apart of all you know you know,

you know, that was a lot more, this, much more more, a lot of

a demonio, something that was a, a, a, so,

a, not of a person that, you, he, more more

just, you're trying other other And a me has to come

in a occasion also another person me say what is what is

that's that's the his house of his his see a see a see a

see a see a a house very very a

very very a very was a pretty that was

a pretty little, the child, the is the, the pair of the house, he had erreded out of that house, but no they didn't, to them, they never has ever been absolutely nothing, absolutely

nothing. But result, that's a new, that in that then he had, like, almost two years, he said that he'd, a, a bigot, and that he was assorting, and that was just trying, and that was just that, he said, is that we don't think we're, because

to us not has been nothing. But the the little

can't be all the time, and he's all the and he's so much very

very nervous. The first I know when I'm talking about what they were talking

what was about this person in the in the entry of the house.

The first that I see, when I was a very old was a

case very was a so I had a a how so

you know, a piece rojo, precious, antiquisim. But casually

was in circle, was marking, this, pentagram? I was marking

four directions and in middle there was a little he said, and he

said, I'm going, this, this, this, this, this, this,

this, this, this, this, this, accommodo here and

someone did something and I mean he said I'm a this this house

this your your father is something something was a was

was meted with a esoteric occultism paranormal all that so

I'm I'm I'm here so here is a marked so is

a pentagram in middle are they're there are

the what more you what So, something that's

that you know you don't you know your your your spouse not you

know, but the little so, so, so, so about all,

they're to go to get to the person more to the vulnerable? Yes,

desgracably so, so, so, so, so, very certainly

something, something, something, that was that was, that was there

and the energy, and what has had been left or who

who had been they've been to they're attacking a little

so I'm not know what I'm know but what I'm after

after the time is that they're that I'm mentioned in these

stories that there there was a question there not just

to have to have to be you know that you to come you

to do you to you to say to the people and now

that we have been going to have many invited there's

a question at the first of people are the people say you you have you have

you're not you have seen many people that they know they they've told that

they're that they and it has been that certain instruments that not we're

the relevance that they don't get the risk that also that's there's

and many people when they this doesn't this is that they're so it's

so it's a people and they're not it's true. I've done I've done I've done

it's a okay, understand. No, is that you to be going to occurrary the point is

that one you can't you, but if you're one, the things not to put beautiful,

and it's something that it's a difficult and normally it's not it's a thing,

for a chaskrillo for something that you did this so let's give so,

so tell us, what you what you didn't just, no, is the wihaha. I mean,

I have a table like a wija. No, it's a wayha like a classic that we

know us or that we're that people have seen. You know the planchette? No. I'm a

circle psychico. Okay. So, are circles that are, this, that are letters,

numbers, this, meces, is a little different. And I, I've used and I've

never been or not with that with that with that's. Yeah. Cas contrary of that many many times,

for example, even, even, the way, the, the, the, the way

to contact to the , to do the book, no see, so, the book,

yeah, there are many, there's quite, really, it's really,

really can be whatever, so, one of the thing is I've learned in, in,

in, in, all the of the account of the case, you know,

if you use the cards, the book, the whiffa, the tarot, what he's so,

so, are, so, there's people, there's, there's people that

tell the the water, there people, there's the people, so,

so, so, some, are, so, are, so, the,

what you say, if you, don't, the things, if, you know, these,

precautory necessary, there, there have problems. In some point of my life, I would have some of the point of that I'd

decide. Decidimus one of the time and I, join us a 31 of October, to do do things to make us to be in the

school, to us were good, to us were in the job, we'd put us we'd get to be

on 31 October. We did everything we have to do to do the way correct. Trasamos the circle

of salt, we did the orations for the questions for the elements necessary that's the

money, that's what every everyone would be to ask we're we're four

amos the problem was that we we're we're we're doing in

a house of an family that her mom was super super super super super super

Catholic So, we're we're doing that we're little, and it's, and we're

and we're like, re-gnawas we, we recoged all. And we went to do not

some days and I got to do to get to another other way in the

house because I was more near the time to get to get

to to sleep. And I said, you know, I have much of the night. So I had a lot of the way to do you.

We had to get into a quarter that was for a visit. She said, no, you know, I'm going to be to be studying.

So, she kept studying. With the laptop on the the piernas. And the side of her there was a

moro. And so insegid there was a mecedora. She, I'm kept in

she kept studying. She said that I'm a point in that, I said, I

had a I said, and apart, he said, I don't go to dream. I'm going to go to go to do.

Gave the laptop. The put the mecedora and she and she can't, but he said that he

started, I'm going to listen to listen to the door, so then one of those, he said that

he'll enter to the door, and be to a bigita parada, there like just in the suns

in the penumbra the behita being a woman chaparita gordita and so. And she

was so he said that the first was was going to turn to and so he was

a bit like a a mancha that was expanding in the techo like

like it was a summer yeah and she she said and she

said and she said to to blisa melissa for please please please please please and I said

I said that I'm not reaction I said I'm saying I'm saying I'm saying I'm sorry you know

you know you know you're you're back you said you're you're you know

you're the only that said I was tap me and I'll be to ask to you until

I'm I was getting I'm getting dormied I said and I did

and I saw I'm a a great Tremendor, if no quixen

and go and go to bed in the morning. In the morning, I don't know I'm going to

go to work to go to and I'm going to and I'm going, and I guess, and you know to get to

get to the night and I'm interested, I'm interested, I'm interested you, I'm going to

do you, I'm just like, I don't, well, I don't know, but I'm I don't me

know in that we're going to this quarter to get to the room

to get to the room was in the lavour about a meter and and a middle of

the laptop was the the labo that that

had that had got to be about the laptop to the

no, no, in your house, never has been in your house, never said,

you're trying. I went, I went to work, I said, if you need something, if you need

something, you need, I'm about. I'm doing, I was, I was the day, and I was, and I

said, and you know, Melissa, you know, you know, you know, you know, and why,

what's the thing? He said, they're, they're not and I'm , my mom,

yeah, she, she, she, she, she, the kitchen in the

first piece of the house no nobody had been somebody and they're

going to get used doing many things in the house and

the problem is that that his house is in the

first in the first was the recivable of the

house so that so that she and the

people someone of the people there no there

no nobody me said yeah for that have

evented to my woman is that is that is a feo in that

we're we're we're we're we're we're when we did we

we're doing we're that's that's that's that was that we're

we're we're to the spirits that they're in

that the other I'm let let me let me get

to my go to my time to me go to

I'm to make make a clear to the house. Now are

that not to be to be a other I'm to do I'm a

whole to be the circle, to do you do it do

a sour and chere and a house and yeah

and yeah so so the thing is that

you can you can you can you can

you know and no and no doesn't do

do with the the of the precautions. I mean, they're

they're they're they're they're going to try to communicate and they they're

not they're there. The thing is that we we're we're we're not

we're we're we're doing the precautions could that's can't

be anched to we're maybe we can let me we're something

or that get to get to something that we're to

to be controlled. For that you say I I say I there's a I'm a

there's a certain point in that I'm going to let's want to let's say

I'm I'm going to I'm I'm I'm I'm that I'm really

prudent and with knowledge and with this are those

you're not you don't you want to you consider you

are intelligent if so or comedian or no

no Depending. There are of all the levels. There's in the levels.

In the levels, in the levels, there's, it's more intelligent, or is more intelligent? And so it's more intelligent than a person human. I'm not more power than us. And it's great interesting

I'm I always I've always thought it's my theory it's a theory

that I have been we're we're we're made to image and semifance

of God you you're going for me it for me it it's

that no is that God not is a woman, God is a divinity and in

that divinidad we're we have a bit of divinidad of God in each one

of us okay you see God is the God we're we're

a little a little a bit of our we're the same capacities

in a amount but so but we're but we're we're we're

so we're so that's always has been like my theory

so we we have we creators, we have we have part of divinity of us.

The problem is that we know we know we know we know we control. So,

if we we're doing we have a little more of spirituality into us and not I'm just

referring to a religion in specific I think we could we could be with

many things that are to torment or not to

get to invade our peace mental, the problem is

that no we do a lot of a other thing that

I'm think I'm think I think I think we're we

have abilities to see and present things the problem

is that the classic is that is that no is that is that

that is that that that is that that that

that they're in this house and we can't cut into our capacity

to be able and get to the kids because the people are because many people are because many

people are things. And they they're going to be going to another example

so all we're all we're sometimes. Some of them can't beautiful and can't

beautiful and they're beautiful and only they have to get to make

to classes to make the maximum , I'm

a voice, and there some some of some we're not in we're

we're not in we're we're not going to do and we have to

develop them, I I'm I'm I'm so, I

think we we could have the ability or the

ability to to do with with so we

don't we don't we don't the information necessary

we know we know how manage it, for

the time it's the the capacity if we know,

we're example, the theme of the exorcists they're they're

a sanctity and a capacity of this of the

knowledge more than we're and many many times

what we have seen is for so they are

specializing because they are doing they are preparing

to to get to a point to idear with this

type of things that are very very very but the problem is

that they was the way that they're they're they're decided to

develop not not not we don't we we

we're we we need we we need with that so

what you think you think I'm this is my perspective

of this is this thing spiritual. I think it's a time that incipient,

although we have many of years having different experiences in millions of civilizations, never has

never to profundize and apart the theme religious termina for questions dogmatics

and limiting much to where it's a only thing that's the only thing that's

the ambition human that termina and retortying all this question and then they're

are you are looking that in the other to indigar in that world and in a way neutral to see how it is how it's how

how we interact with it they're they're looking to make how we can we can't we can't

and that it's a in a different in the which we want to we're

a world in a world in this game of that that's that's

what is what that is what occurs much at the day of today

I feel, and it's for what I recommend to nobody that's in because normally they're looking a benefit personal.

And in that benefit personal, to me me get to something very very simple. If you

you see, from your creens, or from what you said, that in the other world,

more the world spiritual, or so, like, how you you want to put this

name, there, there's an entity that has more power than you,

and you can give he interests and then then a part of this is a game of the

cat and the you think you're going you're when really you're in a a game

very different it's so simple because if it has more than you know he

would be to benefit to a plant a umito a mann

a man a man in my logic no has no because

because those things always have been that has

a something in that combination in those suces that that's that's doing.

There's there are there's many in the demonology and in the angelology that this is very interesting

because because we know that we respect for all of those and your

credences, remember that this channel not not in relation to change

to change to but but I do my opinion of the things that

I've been the those the angelo us no

those are beautiful and beautiful. But if you you're going to be a tradition

judy, that normally the way and I'm not the thing. And you're not to be

much good to be in the people who you're going to you're to be the tradition Christian,

especially in the Catholic and you say in orations of your angels. But then

you're going to be an angel logos and you're more in this plan of the

interchampo of the gainance of the benefit of if you what you what you

want to is it's is bonances you what you want and then you're it's difficult

in me understand because the profiles of what you're what you're what you're not in the

thing you don't see anything to think it doesn't they don't know it's a kind of

it's a very simple that and if you you're trying with other other and there

there's I've heard I've heard and this is very very

very important because it's a story that me told one

a A person very a get a invite to go a person

an geololo that I'm saying, this is the experience of the person. So, I'm not to

talk about you. I'm talking to say, any name and apegible. He invita to go that person

because he has brought a very a really bad in the life. Of being a person that

has a really a really incredibly good of the really really.

He's going to this person, and this person and this person and the the other things that have passed

is because you've deviated much your way, you're not you're not you're not a great but

so it's it's very very generic you know you're not you're not you're very generic

what I'm and I say you want you you can't and that you and from you're going to

be going to do you do you that's a angel you're to have to have

to be going to and then this person says that's so me so because

me you're not no quadren I'm I'm going to the profile but the

form in the way in the he's saying that's saying that's not a other

not a person is a very and he's a little I'm I'm

me do other methods and he said no no no so I let me backer and that

you that's that part of the devotion and apart no no I'm

not I'm not I'm like you you want to you no continue the And it's

that for circumstances of the life, he top a person new that is the

friend of that's the day that they know, it's a day that a callation about the over the

oh yeah, what you tell you what you did the and that you're so with

with a know, and paranoica from that day. When he went the

narrative, when when he says, this person new he says, you're

you're saying, and he He said, number and the person with the person to the person How's the person no

he's a person no he's and he says I know that person when he said and he said and that

person was a guy was and he he said and all the time so I was

he was he was to go to and he was at the level world was to

he was he was revesting the different then changed the aspect, change the

place, but to the know, the know, his knowledge and the thing,

so the people, I'm not much care, because in this time and

we're the benefit and we're doing this kind of what you think you think of this?

I'm I'm the brus the other the other no, no, no, what's

what's the what is that no, is that when I when I started to do

this on this on that that if the card is that is that

is that is that what? What was? No, I mean it's that no,

it's that I'm that's always I'm 15 years 15 years.

We're talking 90s of the 90s of the 20s at the beginning

of the 90s I yeah yeah yeah and I I'm

I remember and until after after I think I think so

I think so I'm like so I know I

I've known I One once I know a hittano,

for example, that I had to manage a manager, me said, I'm going

to be and I'm he was in he was he was he said, he said, he said,

what you want to do you want to if you want to get to give a

little and he he was and he he and he and he was

and he and me me I'm another a A lady, a lady who's very, very, very bigotia in cadaverita,

that I read the cards. She was, she said, no, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't know what you want to do you want to be able to. I mean, because that people

that I feel, to my perception, that if they were to be able to help, to be, to the people, they were not

they were looking a power economic, they were doing for to really to do that to be able.

So, really the pay was super symbolic and the last time I'm

toped was a last more about like 15 years she she

did the and she I said you know this this this and I

here I'm here I'm well and I'm a clean

and how how I'm no no no so what you

do you want to I so I I feel that

those really have the power and the capacity to be to be able to

learn the cards, to be able to get to get to get not they're not

they're not being looking lucra they're people. They're were to

help to help to the people. And right not I mean I've

heard things exorbitant so that for a clean 10,000 $10,000

we're let's let's let's let's to be inviar the house,

the patio, the cochera, is the car, or so, no is the thing. And I can understand that

I mean, I mean, I said, I mean, I was, I needed a time, I had

no, I'm no, I'd have $500 pesos for letters, but I'm so,

I'm a $100 pesos, so I, so, and I'm saying, that's saying

that's saying that's saying, so, for me it was something something

something symbolical. This for, I mean, I'm like, like I'm like he'll

for my time, but really there's really a really, and know that is doing that's doing

and apart you cover a nojo of the car is so like so where is there

really the the, the, the, the, the, there are some,

there are stories that with this person, they're in this middle, and they're

just, So, I've I've entered of a lot of cases that we have done to

the family nocturna in the that they're that they're a person, because they're in a necessity.

And that person, and that's that I do, but then the things that they

do they is a very strange. So it's like, I'm just I'm trying a limpia

and me you're saying, and I'm not I'm not so, but that's something that's

something that sometimes they're they're a alarm. And then And then they're

that there a person of a level economic that what he is able to blah, blah,

and that they're doing sacrifices. And then they're doing the cruise. And this that's the

sacrifice of this other type and we're doing your limpicita. And no they're not a

lot of so much. So, so it's that's things and that has been made a lot of

the episodes with Mina, is that's not really Lugery. For that they're a good because I

have said many times it's a code ethical that practically is a totally diluted

and then the person that's the person who can be the person or without some

some scrupulos but let's let's our there's there's there's

that I interest much how how you could distinguish or so

always you to be you these these spirits of

these people of the Spiritos of that no, I don't know,

I mean, I know, so, I mean, I've seen, I'm used normal,

yeah, so, this, uh, without, some, some, a,

a formidate, no, no, so, of how, they're, no, so,

so, so, so, so, so, how, how, how,

how you're, how, how you're, you're, because, no, they're not me,

me, a bit, a, so, of a A volada, the way,

it's like, it's like when you know you know a a good vibra or, or not

a good vibra, equal. So, when you know, when you know, when you're to be able to

a person and like, when you know, or so, is exactly the same. The problem is

the people, the people, the, the, the, when I'm really, is that when I'm

not good. No, it's good. No, no, no, it's good. And it's,

and it's, but it's, or independently. So, it's, it's like, it's like when you know, it's like when you know's someone, and, of a sudden, and you know, and that's, and that's, and, like, and, like, so, so, and so, so, yeah, yeah. Has been in places that, no, no, I don't know, I can't start here. Yeah.

See? See? Yeah. Cunt me in those places. For favor. Has, um, that's five years. Uh-huh. in an

in an in an arrake of a locura I found an offer of a world of in 8,000 and no

dode and I did and I bought one and I went we went in a

in a in a city that is in a city that's called

Girona or Girona in Catalonia so we're going to tourising and there's a ticket that

you can't you're a for three cathedralses or three churches so we're going to the first,

we're the third and it was an an church aniquis I think of

800 that was the first cathedral that's that's that was built

and then it was then it was so it was so the cathedral so

that is the of the original and we went over we're going to we're on this occasion

an amy we're going to go the atriot and I started to get a little

little bit but I didn't know I'm going to do that something but I began to

see to think we we're we're just we we're we're we're

we're we're we're this thing in the church that's

an We were doing the recorrived, and of a sudden, I started the air, me started the air, and I said, okay, no, I can't breathe. No, I can't respirate. I don't have to go to respirate. I mean, I said, I was not, I was thinking, like when the people had an attack of anxiety,

no pressure in the pecho, and no, no, I could respirate, I had to go, I've got to be able to, I'm a little, I don't know what had been a but it was like a little

a little like I when I started to hear the story of the place and I came to oh,

okay is for this. Because there was a a place,

one of the of the seds of the St. Inquisition but it was like I don't

see if I felt much the energy of the but I

entered one of some there there there's certain

there there for those can not to Cemetery, I'm

to do the Cemetery. Why? Or the because of the bellaries. Because it's,

the other thing. And, and the other thing? Ambast both. Or so,

for example, no, in a cemetery, there's sometimes I feel like that someone

was over and I know there's that I'm there, but I feel observed, I'm

that someone me's doing and try to not to not to to attract them

more this for that I'm at to be a to be able to get to get a

time in a cemetery to see a that you've seen in a same year's before before

I think it was in December we went to I don't I'm my

my papa to visit the tomb of my my mother of my my mom

I don't I don't try to the word that was that I'm in one of that we're coming in the

passios and looking the tomb of my old. Me took it's we've been

going to go and we went to go and the way to get to to be a little

to be a person to be a person in the same but I gave

like the impression that that is a person that's so like me

did like I'm going to another other other other so

I so I try to not to not to

get to that yeah in the situations like this type of sensibilities and perceptions

a lot of people that are people who live in a way in that that it's so simple also the manho there's a child that this is the story that this is the time

to do you know that's a time that this time when a little had a little he passed many things strange perceived a much

things, he was a delantable situations not was a not a family that was a little bit

that was the child no had nothing to with with with with the other

simply I'm a don't. I'm going to have and in the pesadillas

and in the situations that someone I went to to get to the house and the day

next an attempt of an attack that that there was

an accident of a vehicle and the day the next

but there a anecdote and it is like one of the other

the other And it, and it's all the family and they're like very that's

in my family so, we're all, we're all, we're we're all that's like the

things and these situations for this time, for what he's this family is of

Mexico. And what what I said, what I did have much, much,

much time. This this chick is a day in the house, in the around

of 10 years is just going and he and then he's to get to and

And he begins to say, Mama, Mama, Mama, a La Lola, the Lola, the Lola, the Lola is the daughter of a friend of

them. This is a new person for the government, and the Lola is a chick univertory,

that to get a little and a kid this chabita in the time when our family. So,

the mom is going to get to get a little, the little, and is the child

and is the lastimated much, mama, they lastimated much. And the mom,

I'll look at the seor and there's no one we're going to put a number rosita

and say the time she's the lastimed mama, look the bell, bela the

the head and the head and the you're in the hands on the don't those fingers

don't they and she yeah a be a a bit a bit there

there there there's there she she's she's and she

and he he's me mama no those those those two

don't you know that they're going to to be able to and the mom is a horrible

the scene that's a lot of the scene that's very sure and the he's a

little bit and he's a bit to come something and the that's a little

the little she doesn't and she got to they're much a Lola Lestimara

and Lola Lola and they they moved the and they didn't his

and all they're and all all the all because it never never

they've never they've never they've never they not passed

no two hours, I'm a deconsolated, and the first thing me

were not to be a milola. Describe as what the little the

they were to discover the the child. This happened a much,

and the situation and they said, they've beengated for a situation

related with my work. So, so are situations that she I

understand for what me and then that the to this a little

she's a not not is not he's not a mental or emotionally for being this type of

things or not he doesn't it's not it's not it's not something that's being

anything it's only is connecting with a reality that you're

so there there there there's in this type of things that you

don't necessarily you're not necessarily you're going to and why sometimes they're not to have to be

in the situations that you have lived you have been the most aterraderas?

It's that I don't know how to say it's not so I'm so I'm so

so there so there things that is that have that's I'm have

but yeah but it's like like the less the

less let's let's let's let's let's we let's

let's put another epitet impact that that not you you

don't you know, that's you I'm that this I'm going to

go back. One one one of two friends to the bar

and the and we we we're we're we're where we

we're going to go to the barcett the bar old the car

actually getting to the services constitution we we're we're

coming I said, one, we're still going to see, one, we're seeing seeing, so, yeah, I see, yeah, I'll see coming down, let's go ahead.

I'm going to nervous, but I said, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's, let's do, we did we, we're to do, I'm, I'm to manage, I,

I don't, I, try to not, to not, that, apart of that I was that you were managing, is because

it's, the, the defenses that you can't have to be to have to be to manage

and in that was the that was the was the the car at the three me says that's

that's that's subio someone and so and what and what and what

we're and we we're we're very nervous because the three we're

we're we're we're not no so I just sentia that someone

had had subed the coach. And so like, I said

okay, I'm to be what is what he's what he does

that that that was that's that was had

had died in some of the house that was

that he was I was I was that

part of the part of the part of that had

So, like, it's easy to see us and ask help to ask us to him to get a

other side. But the problem is that many times, I mean, they're in a curve.

I mean, I don't was ever ever, I'd never of my time, we're going to bea

to docks, to be a time a great greatable and in that if we if we're

seeing this this person so the only that we're going to we're going to be able to let you

to go to go to your family Meli there's a question with that you want to

you're the last the last the lastel for the final a story that I

think you go to go to well in some occasion it's a story

very very really that is a certain manner me

pogue much when I told that I had to I'm a

time after a year after there was a year there was a time

in a time me about me my my my

say my my my I'm see that my back

from the time to go to and we're and not

he has no his son no no no no

so me help you please to to to find what

he and I go look not it is my speciality I'm to try

to do something that you can help to help and orientate to

find to not to not to whatever so I

was super desperate super desperated obviously I did

where you have to your part the part

the city okay I'm I I'm I imprimed the map

of the little more or in grand four o'clock I gotre a pendul

and I started where is the papa where is the daughter is the child

where is the child and the pendulum me was making certain so

and I he said you know you know you I'm that not

that's my father my father is my I'm very very

I'm like me is that mark and me is this this this place

I'm and I'm and I said I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm occurred to

do this of the pendulum but the pendulum me is mark

this area in particular of the of the city where you

know okay much thanks there there there there

there there just three days after me and you

know you know, you know, I'm a father. But, well,

yeah, no been to do. He said, I just I just, the indications

that were the indications that me were, it was where they were the

body. It was my fault? I mean, for me or for mal, because,

thanks of God, you not in the circumstances more adequate, but

if they, they're to be to be to be to be. Yeah,

minimum is what many, not the people of those people to do

make sure, to start the start story, that's that that

that in what in the reynosa. Yeah, yeah. And what is

your last story, Melley? This episode, I think for

many has been very pretty for the final. But Meli,

for for favor. Well, in an one an

friend has a man who has a far as the city. And in the

place where there has had been had been stories of

that there people that was that he had

even had had been a to rancho. We'll invite

to invite a various friends, but I want to me help us to be there's

there's there's in the rancho. Okay. Let's that's 2005,

2006, for there. We went to the time of the morning and the little of

the rancho that has has a kind of a kind of where no just,

where just only has a only has a small, a and the bathroom. We're playing, we did we're doing,

we did we're doing a foggatia out of the end of the same, we say, no, because we're going to, we're going to ask you a lot of here in tarraud. I'm,

we're going to, we're going to try to be but in the group, there was a person that no cregia and

that parted not was to that we're doing that. And, unfortunately, he started with

the, no, it's that I don't think I'm a little, a bit that I'm

not that I'm not in a turn of burl. We're we're the session

spiritista when I'm I'm I'm there's three people,

three spirits were there. There are two men, and one women,

and a woman were talking with those We're like eight people there that we're

and I said, okay, they're chance of to make a question to each one and to

ask us want to ask them and they're my friends to ask and the person that

was that said, no, no, it's that no that's not, no, that that's not

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I'm like, well, they started to ask them to ask. Okay, we're going to do another round of questions. I said, but you know, I don't know how much can't want to, because it's very tired. But, well, well, we're going to go to another round. The person The third

The third, the third, the third, Moreno I had a, I was, I was a I was like a commisetta but it was like a rasgada And the color Blanco And it's not about

Because at a Costado had a mancha of a same Enorme to a I don't I said To me this my

My friends And how it And what is what said just we're focused on the questions. They started but

he got a point in that this man of the mancha roja he was so in front

and me started to like to get to I'm I was like I'm like I'm

like I'm but I not I'm to get and I got to and I

said you know what I'm I'm I'm this person not we're

here I'm I'm to start we started to to accommodate us, to be

how we'd go to work, one's in the sofa, others in the piece. I go, the bayons were in the

part of the and I don't see much of distances, but they were, they were, they were, they were,

the way to the vanes, they were marked those and around there were around around

there were around the person that's being burlando was, back, back,

back, back, the, to go ahead the banos and I said that

I'm doing it but he was doing and there no way there. Yeah

that came to the he said that I heard that he said he said he said

he said he said he was like if he was a man but what he was

he was that he had seen a manche in a crossed and he said

he said going He went He went to the house this palid

what he is a to be a person that's really that he was he was

he had been that he had been what he was going to go to this person

and he said you know you know you'll never you never you don't be able to

you because you're to because then after the then I

just did much me and we just or protadidated in the piece for that

not us us are to be not the other because from your

experience because it's that's that's that's what you say they're

so that they're so for the general what is that

depend there there there there are in the they

were in the place or in some other other

occasions me has talked as what that we were

doing the of the house enbruched or that's so,

of that they're they're they're in the place, and they are in

they're and they they're there. I think in the case of this

person, I think I'm that those spirits that are in this

plan still, that are to seem to do you do they're

in this plan and they're to be to be another or no there

after this. Yes, there's a plan, no. It's my theory. But,

but many times they're with, with them, they're with

doubts, with debts, with, they're being worried for

a situation that he's before before or they get preoccupied

for someone of the family or they're preoccupied for a situation

that they were in a conclusion one they're not they're like the case of

the murders that are super repentines yeah that are

some some there there people there don't don't

they don't they're they're they're a moment there

there there there there a situation very tragic for

there of the years like 40 there And this story me impacted

much for a phrase that that's a commenter as a commenter. As a many years

I've been in a seminar. This seminar was in the middle of the in San Luis

Potos in a place. Beyes the the sky, the

was so much to the city that was that there was a lot that

there was a caseita a little that were where were the

house and a where we were we were distance, they'd be around

60, 70 meters. Lejos of what the people could be able to think, there's

we're light, we're a lot of, but one a way, you're to see a

house, the other or you see it's absolutely nothing. No, it was a

little that was a place, much a peace, much tranquillity. A

day in the night, a me to be to be doing something doing

a of the of the sherdot in the age and that

he has much time form of that congregation me he's

a comrade he's a comerate let's answer to answer you and I

say you and I know it's a that I know that I'm

made I'm so I am in the house and I know

he he's he's a person and a very

very good a type a type of of I hope that

still that's between us the good good father me

and he he's a question and he and he and he put a

really so I'm sure I'm I'm I'm understand I'm

I'm and I know the and you and to let me

try to let me try that so he so

me so I'm so me I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm he's he said he's he said it mom of one of your

one of your other than he's a very hard. And the form in the he was a time in the

he's not that he not that he not a that's something that's a lot of the time to be

the situation, you know, and he said, he'll be the other the other the other the bad

notties that don't be done to know and that that phrase I'm made a

made a markidism and I said, because nothing can't do you can't you're going to

affect the life, you're going to be able to to be in the and he needs to have a force for what he

has to need to do you know that so we're going to get to get to this news

and in the morning at first hour we want to get and if if you want you want to you want to

do you do it. For circumstances I've had other the situation but that phrase of

the bad notices that not don't see in the routine I'm always always

ever to try to get to do something and I'm the the next.

This chica mention that she lived about about five years in a city frontalisa

of Mexico. But then his papas for the time, they're going to the United, they're

to live there and they're doing a when she is a in a vacation, to Mexico

to the house of a house one says an huge. In the patio,

still they're a bit they're a place padrissim, very great, except

for those habitations. Those other than just in me, I'm never a lot of

a need to you know the and at the other than the other those arbores. And those arboles,

I didn't keep me getting me getting a something. In those times, I'd

I'd have one 13, 14, or 15 years. We're to Mexico, we're

to the house of my Tios, and are that normally not even in

that house now coincidio and we we've got to the same that's just I'm just I'm just

I'm just me occur to get to one of the quarters where me met in one of the quarters

I'm there there's there's I'm still that I'm they're in the carol where I'm

the door I was closed the door when I'm there and I'm I'm just I'm sorry

I'm I'm you know Yeah, for then, I recuperer the susto, but it's more to the middle of a day of,

I'm going to talk to the and I'm, I'm going to do you know, and a prima says, ah,

you're just to topar with a nana. And he's a nina. Diss, it's a but it's

a story that we don't count in the night. It's a story that only the

story that only the story. Because the bad notties and the bad stories and

not they when the night. When I read that phrase, I said, okay, I want to know what happened. If it resulted the day next time, very temprano, almost ritualistic, us served them to do

us and sentarone, we sent around to all and said, who knows the story of Nena? And, well, yeah, I and some Primus, we don't know we know. What we're going to tell. Occurried a lot, and this story is really good. Tengar much

because it's just so much that nobody perceived a nena. Nena is your t-a-abweller. It's a tia-bora of that nobody has and practically we have been

prohibited to talk to her. Your tia when I was very young, more or less than you two, two,

three years more than to you, was really inamorated of her and she had a good

friend. They were to get, they're not and they're and when they're to get a

little bit she's started to do this all this we're a Discutiered much, they put on the

point in the he said, largat and you want to go back to see you to go back to the

wife. He said, but he passed a time and started to occur to things very

rare in the house. Abe blank, very strange that never had been

seen in the area, it's started in the patio. And she

always I'm looking to when we came to the patio,

when when you your abelos and the people that that's the time, the patio,

and they were in the abel and she immutable. Dave one brinkito that much he'd

never did it. It was a little she'd and she'd all the time with the vista.

Only he interested she'd she'd she'd a day there, Nena

cameo. The repente she'd not could comeer well, the

and she was and it was a something and it's, and it's They didn't have no two

seven when she yeah, she had in the room in the room talking about

with a little bit of that he's he had to get to get to me. All the time me is going to

be there's always the when they're saying no, nothing, nothing, let me in peace.

And it started a very rapid, it was a very bad, very palid and it was very little,

he'd to go to his studies, he'd he'd to have contact with this chico

and he he'd to have trances. In moments disappear. And so they'd be in the sotea of the house in the techo, in vata, without the bat, caminanded by the oria, like, intentando

to get her. They'd have to be to get her own. No. They'd be how she'd go to be it and be able to be there, because to be it, not a way simple. And then, they'd be able to get in a quarter, and intentable to talk to her, and, of it. And, of some

form he escaped over a window or something and I'm going to one of the

barredas and he's to do that the type of the people. The parents,

we're talking of other times. Not they had any idea of how about those things.

Apart, in this time, and me this chica, they'd they'd much much the effect

that had a level social because they had a status that they're they're

they're they're they're they're a nana. No they're they're

they're to be to scondering her. When they were trying to scondering her, they assigned them a quarter, and the quarter, they put to a tia that she was to beguer. The tia, obviously, not was dedicated to that. So, then, where I'd had a tantita attention, Nenna's escape. And, of

and then, the way of course, that was the whole, that all of the baller, she'd be able to, the patio, he metia into the arboles, and, of a sudden, just, you'd, like, those eyes, like, those eyes, like, and then, yeah, no, he was

a person. It was a serpent and brinked to a other but it was a very a bit of something like

some people do you some morphosis. Well, it was it was like she communicable because this abe, never was to go. After that nina said, they started the velourio in one of those habitations. and from there they said that in those

quarters still there was the spirit of some way of her. What is what occurred that in the

long of the years, there are two or three things that are the story of nena. If they're

in the quarters, they're styrn the cabo, they're they're doing that they can't be

a voice of a woman in the o'id, the temperature of the quarter a little

or there's a sensation very fey. There have been very many people that have seen

and they have of nena, that muriel many years before and never saw that

never seen those people who are people who are they're in a lot of a sound of a serpent. So, it's like

that something that's a little bit of that and with that story, Meri, me despego. Okay.

How trapasas Meli? Very well. Something with what you want to do you

do the family nocturn? No, so much thanks that keep keeping the videos.

They're very good. It's a very good. Ampliament. Meli, much thanks for the time for

having to have done the world. I'm sorry. I'm not. Trais there many stories. There's a many.

And I'm going to be interesting. Dearie, family nocturna, degenl in the comments to be

to invite to Meli if they want a story of or if want we want to

go back to put on some let me. And when we get to the 10,000

10,000. 10,000 When we get us to when we get him to let me I'll talk about to be able to talk about

to get us and I'm put to read the commentaries for where they we're going to get them. You know,

thank you a family nocturna and that's a good time and that's good things

and that you're