HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de Apariciones, Posesiones y Hospitales| Ft. @elzodiaconegro| EP 218

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a éste nuevo episodio de Historias aterradoras de Apariciones, Posesiones y Hospitales en @hablemosdeloquenoexiste.El día de hoy nos acompaña Valeria quien es miembro de la Familia Nocturna y nos viene a compartir sus experiencias paranormales y conexiones con el más allá . Escucha historias de entidades como Nosferatu, la Santa Compaña y el Tae; descubre lugares embrujados, apariciones en hospitales e historias de ouija y nahuales  que seguro serán protagonistas en tus dulces pesadillas.. Asi que prepárate para que @hablemosdeloquenoexisteHablemos de lo que no existe es un canal de youtube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022 su primer episodio fue vivo en un casa embrujada en el que una chica narro sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de este canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de este canal , la familia nocturna creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz. Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados. La comunidad de este canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando esto tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenido. El duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora. En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado .

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What did you He did you in my Casa And he's He makes a If a energy Obscura if a

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perfectly Despired and he starts to turn of that situation for nothing

There's there something He put on a type of To this new episode of Let Me Ones to what no

exist. The day of today I'm very emotionated because we have a episode special. Today,

here in the studio, me a company one person that is a member of the family

nocturna and that I've got the opportunity to talk with it. Because it's a

lot of stories and it's going to do the stories very interesting. Is that once said

this, I've said, I'd know the a Valeria Zeta. Valeria.

How how is it? Thank you. Thank you. Very good. Oh, what's the thing to start

in the studio? I'm like like a emotional. A mixture of emotion is very very much but emotionate

I think in a 70% with all the other a bit of a lot of and the other

enter nervous and the kind of like with the suspense to all the yeah

a you you can't the thing of the stories that you have

the day of today are you are in the way so you know, so it's so it's

so it's so you're so you're so much you're a good a story? I'll tell

you know I'm sure I'm that Ophelia resulta is a little not that

normal not in a sort of simple and simply and simply she's a little

she's a way that's for the things that does not is a person that encah

that's a lot of not a child. It's a different. And she's accepted.

She's accepted so. She has accepted that since her 11 years she gave a

time of a tradition that was very strange but she she she's

for them the day of the Murtos is a family and that never

he was never he did it Resulta that the day of Muartos, that some families make these

these altars and are talking close to their disfuntos, for them is a fiesta because five years after

was the day in the day in the day in his wife. And in the other a day like a

day, it's a day very very and the family is always in the one that

was a time the house of the and they they're a sometimes

of times of some with other and other other

She she remember that was when when he was about about the 11 or

12 years that he occurred the first so far normal of the situation

that was she was she was she was in that she was

in one of the two anniversaries of the she had

had had been very good relationship with she I

know the good and he had got to

get done there there Bees. Stando there in the

Fiesta, Dyeron after the night and she was a very can't be and she said, she could get to

do a room and she go to a house and she will get to be a prime with her

her prime in that time, she is her care and the time she will be to get in

a little she will be put in a carmita that has some boards of the bed for

that not there's but in this moment and is the solar in that apartment. Abre the door and

it's a little bit of a particular. She's a little bit of not a minute, but if you and

we're we're there, we're not we're going to that's a bobeard tremendously grand.

No, there's nothing more than a center and the other room and the other can't the other

is black in the room, because at the time, that's over, that's the room half open in mal, then it's

very, very, very a lot. And she, when see that's the place totally dark, she had seen a

camera that I've seen many many, she'll see the the door, and she can't the

and then she doesn't know how time, but she has a custom that someone

she's her interrup to a other, her custom is a case, she accosta

to the sbara the sabaaba the sbana and she covers to No, he

doesn't that the light the and when she's a costed, she makes how the

saba is a start to separate to the rostro. In that moment,

she starts much fear because she hear a

person a person, nobody opened the door and

not, her family not, his family, not is to play

the hands trying to get the sand to and to go,

and what you see is that a little the other the nose, and he comes to recorral the car,

until that gets to the zone of her and when he gets a she starts like a she's like,

and you see it's like a kind of a little fat and a lot of a lot of they're saying

what's the and she is like revoloteing with the sabana and at all you

all you're saying uh you've been a things. In the morning next,

when they're all the family reunied and she's very affected. She's not she was

not even no time. He was a lot of the door abjured and was a gaspated

practically at the front of the camera being being that they were

that they were going to when I was going to when they on the she

she she was she and she was not she was done there. And I

see that they're to be She, nobody has much in mind, but her

mother has a little and she's a little signer to be a little call you, call it at a

time. Advance the day, and in some moment his mom he invites that he

he's a company to the part of the patio where no there's and he

said, that you think you you yeah I'm and I'm this house since

much. He's but no you know about you not think

that's say, well, and he starts to narrate that when she had more or less his age, he took living things very strange in that house.

In occasions, in the nights, I'd hear passes in the passios. Like her mom and her father, the old was that had fallen

had fallen much before, they were people that were very pesed, and they'd from very time.

Then they'd So, they'd dormia They'd like a bitre. They never They never They were But she She said,

She said, She said, She was the only occasion in the she was able to go to her own own own to their own time. The image was made to

grabed for all the life. Never he had to open the night in that house

of her mom. He says I know that's a maybe a woman that was a woman who

was a house an tisive so I know but not we don't know because

she's a night and that's that night that was I also I'm there.

There's a pause because no they're not going to happen to this type of

situations nobody is talking of that but there's a acabro that occurs

that's a lot of when this child is a year after they're remodelations in the

house. The house yeah were antiqued and it's that they were going to get into

and they were to transform to transform it in a type of a kind of a place to

there in the place there's a limonero the limonero the limonero has

several years that is sick and simply as it was part of Deciding

to quit them, they're going to put other other people,

who are you know, but they're going to get a limonero, they're in the robes, and there's

the robes, there's a menta, and one of the the robes when the mother of the

mother, it's exactly what he saw, that I was using, the conclusion to the

question to the that came that's, that in that house in the

times in the time in the place, it was a place and they were in the

territory. Yeah, no they were they were more, but here there's a

situation. That was the initial of the experiences of Ophelia. When

she knew that when she knew that situation she it impacted and

there some creencers in torno to the connection with that world spiritual that has to be a lot of

that perture emotional, with those first experiences, and that you make you a connection at a level of

emotions and that you know, I'll say this, because when she has 21 years and

discover in that it he affected much the news. For that that she was she was

working in a company out of society and he went incredibly well. The world that

had never never had ever had he was impressionately well. And for the people who say that the

money to try the felicity probably not have lived with someone who has a bigger. Because Ophelia,

without that he started he started, he started a question that was agudizing and even he had a

great work that in a city that he had he had all the independence

of the world, he He started in a depression so profound that gave a moment or another with a very good quantity of but without, but without more,

decided to get out of the work and he started to live in that house, in that abetation, and she was depriming more and more and more. Ophelia in some moment he thought of desuscribys herself in this world,

until that something into her he did her reaction and he said, one, is for to have the money, And two, if you regresses to your house here, imagine

how they're going to talk about you, they're going to be able to do you, they're going to make more time here and then she said, I need to find me different, modificing what I'm doing

and he started to go to comeinar. When he goes to come to, there's a way very extrano that is a house of three pieces that the part of

the above says coffee, written in some hittas malpuestas and something and something

it's a little it's like it's like a little kind of a kind of very scueta very rustic

and a question not they're not going to people they're saying we're we're

we're looking two persons for that we're in the kitchen and in the

place so I so then in this moment they're well we're

letiquem after after the person of the coffee he said, what are you you're doing

this work? You're super super overcapacitated like to this. He's,

no, no, I want to get to get a much time. Obviously, you're going

to be a little and you go to and she and she and I need to

work, no I have a work and me going to get a good

time. The person there is something there's really, I'm don't make

the person I'm doing something something something I don't know

I dood that you're going to get you're a person very capable offer you to go a little really a little and there's a little

but when he gets to your house they're a little the chick of the cafe and he's he's not

I'm not because I'm you need to you know they're they're they're

when it a house there's a little a bit a bit a bit a

little there there there he's so it's connection with

something that exists in that he's The first that's

the first days, as it's in this situation of depression, it costs much a

work interactor. So, is that he uses all his forces to focus

in the tasks that they're saying that they're and even that's overcapacit

to do you to make, and because at the final she not is a part of

a part more difficult, it's it's she's she's all her

work to get to her is a partied in his pensions. So, is a focused on

that, but she has something in that you're and as a time, decide that he's going to

start to explore the other levels of the other because all is the first thing

that is the other two. So, so that is that is taking sack

of the or is getting eggs of the oil or the tapio

and so, it, it's where there's where more there access to the rest of the

building. And, and so it top a door that are in those not with

those times. And one day he said, the day he asks, I would like to know this

place, and they say, I don't you know, I'm not the question. He's like,

if, they're, they've been, here we've had been the rotation of personal because when

they're to the other pieces, they're to pass things here and they're going and they say no

I'd like it. But, I don't you know, you're a little bit of a minute that I'm going to say to be able to do. It's that you're going to do. The doors are open but they're just to. And said, only an advertency in the third piece a basis

you're going to find in the soil, dulces and and jugets. No we know who's put. But no those toke because the persons that have been talked they're going to pass on

things raras and she says you're playing no no it's a little you're talking about the things

that's going this child this she's a certain a different and that during a time and it

two years not she never to cross the umbrellas the doorals that were that were

the door of the door but a certain day that was very very strong

that connection with the door commenced to explore and he's a point that it was a place

to be a like it was like a type of school because in the abitations had to

poppitres all all all they were some were some they were a zone in a

area that was nobody practically had access when when

started to go much care but he's very

much fear but there's that after to start

exploring there in ratitos know exactly what day was, she top a

a woman of the limpeas she present oh, I'm doing she's don't know to be here

and I'm going to be able to keep it and she they're they're going to have

to do this person is the the sale and the that she was a I'm

cargated more more of panadry is she she she's a

way that's a lot that there a sometimes there's

a there's not no there's adapted and has done

the done not so he did do you know, normal. She's to top continually

Don't know in all those parts of the part of the part of the house. And Dona Guilla is

doing a good work and all those those poplittles that have like all the

lot, it's all clean the place, it's all clean the passios, it's

clean the and he asked, Doa why there there's why there there's

there? I don't want to I'm going to the other pieces because

there because there are the windows, the maybe some young in

some moment to do make a malddard because it's like it's like it's

like it's like a well who you know when when you know

when you know the that the things were there there there

there no there no there and the and the she did a

feeling that in what I'm in what I am getting but

something another another another another some some kind of

and was and it when she back that that is the third piece

occurred two things. When it's in the zone of panadery, they're some types of

focos that are like calentones to some things that they're in, no there, and the

three fokos that they have to turn, they're in the air, they're

to get straight, they're they're they're in the air and they're

going to get to there never had been When he goes, she gets impacted,

no know what I've lived in the house of your and he's been to be able to take a little of the situation.

So, it's in the cubicle of the bayon, he's sat there, and then he'll be the door the

door, be the back and be the Zappato's of Doña Guilla. He's he said, Doña Guilla,

don't know me is that I've gotre the juggets and passed things. No, there more

sounds. So, it's a cubicle of the side of where there's a lot of

there's the same, there's the guy's the he's the and he's he's not he's

and he's the door, he took to the don't he doesn't he doesn't he's no there's

there. Sal, espantaditism of the ban. When the the duke

she's there is there in the endra she was putting some type of cartel

or something and she's all agitated and says that said,

I said, he said, and he's, he's, and he's that you're that's the guy,

who's the woman, and said, no, she's, you know, we're doing, you know,

you know, we've been, the, I've been the, he's been, the quarters of the

two, don't get, and they're in the way, it's, like the first way,

that's the thing, says, it's the To know, I'm out of my apartment, I'm going to

my family and I'm going to if they were about if they were to be on. He said, I'm not. I'm still

live many things because I think connected with something, and I'm more sensible like that

one. And one once said this, welcome to Valeria. Tell me your story.

Let me some seconds to process all what I've happened to Ophelia. It's been

impressive how it gets to to live other experiences super

drastic in the experience previous or what I know in the family in the house of the

father? Probably this is it gave like a hypersensibility or it made

to have contact with entities that not a whole everybody would be

to be to be tofors. If you that's a question kind of to

theorizing because in the camp of the paranormal really say

many solid but not is too a majority. What I've seen that

is that when someone has when someone has a emotional mentally is totally

and it's strange but it's like a emotion specific and that

emotion it is like the form of an form of experience are the

people. So, people who are, in the situation the most indicated and apart evoke the emotion it's a connection

direct. And it would be that she said, that's the chica, that's more or less for there was a situation. And so,

for what I was living, the quadro of depression that was going, that was excessive, that was going to

control, and then, he made his job, he- he's a super heavy the history.

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you have always made a different, and the appellee- negotiate-tit-t t-ed-ed- you know-

with your instinct of with your time, with the support 24-hour- per day,

no amount of minimum, not-mensue minimum, and you're made for negotier, and the app the appellate

titre t-ed-ed- -tete-t and you need to now. Well, to see, with what

history we're going to start? I think with one that's a region of the

here in the country. This story me the part of the good Chubal that

he's a thank you a lot of thank numbers and all because we're going to mention

things with the thing of the political. But, well, the

history was so. Practically a day Julieta came to he's with her and he said,

oh yeah, I have to talk to something that's over a lot of my family to my

family, my papah in specific, we're passed on the rancho. All right, the family

of Julietta has a rancho or a house of the area of the area. All right.

All right. All right, but according to him, he said, he's, how his

family is that his family is his is that is the papa has a

very, very a post very high into the political, not in specific

of what the part of the part of but it's one of the person most

more the power of the family is a into the political

that so obviously are people with much power

acquisitiv they have much control of certain things

and obviously they have many and it's well

is been rubros that are very delicated, as the political, you need to have your flancos well-cuitous, as much a very

good abogado, or to have a very good medical for if you require in the things, or, well, also the

man, the brogo of confidence, because one never knows in what moment are to go to

get the emboscated and, but has to have all the blancos well,

the the papa of this child has a a a this

Bruja, we're going to let's see Chonita we're going to say that's the Bruchana this is a

anianita I think for dar one specific in the zone in the area in the area of this

child of this she goes and the visit constantly for to do do some to do

to know to know something about or if there's or if you have notices of you can

have attacks or that they're are sending work to the family or in specific the

sir. But, well, all the was all was over control and the

woman was going to the thing he a while with the family in where

she's her work and they are there to check the

report. Well, one a day the father of Julieta says,

you know, I'm I'm going to check there the

the the third of the the So, any Merval,

Marches, or Jueves, the day that's, at the 6, 6. and a time,

and I had been had been to be the message to get to that he was to be

to be the man, he goes, obviously they're a in this

house of camp, kinta, cabana, terrain, how used in

you know and the he's the sir he does the the can't

enter and can do the things that he can't

do Obviously, as it was at this was going to it was in, I think that's the

time of the autumn so it's darkinging more time. We're in the 7 of the

time and it was quite obscure like that in the terrain where there much

vegetation, well, it's it's a moment that the guardia there of

the other the the man that's the person, he does you know, I'm going to

enter to the area where are the pastillas for to bring the

reflectors and that it's a way that's the area of the part of the kind of a

half the thing that's the thing is, enter, preend the pastillas or have the

intention to to bring the to put the reflections but you know a woman at the

front. It's the figure like a woman in bat a black and

a and it's very and it's making some sometimes the

man obviously with all the all the Caragabhan and with all your experience.

This is an intruso common. So, here is going to be something. And it's

nothing in the moment in the second in the second in the pastillas for that

the light of the little or if a little a tronco of aubor and clavar to

his unes and then the moment in the light of the light to get the the figure

of this woman of the woman, you know just more see where is being

the tree's the thing, like that person, if that person, if he

had trepado and he even even to mention that's like a

like a tiger or if a panther is to trypa to start to start to start

to start to even though they're being used that they're that's being

they're that's and then they're doing that they're that's he's not

a woman. He's You know what? It's going to this. I've got to see the the figure of

a person, something that was like a person, but I'm sure that's, communicate with Chonita,

and say, then they're they're they're going to be able to or they're to put to something.

Well, obviously, Julietta says, okay, I'm right. PASA a little,

Julia to make a Chonita, and he says, ah, hello, Chonita,

how is, the she's, oh, my, my, how you're, good, that's all right,

oh, before you to you know your father, that's all right, I'm sorry, that I'm sorry, and I'm

quieted, she'd just never just waiting to be the woman. The sir,

is that, well, I'm not only only those I'm my house,

I'm to go to do you to do the places where you are your place,

and where you know, that's that I'm that I'm that's that's and

Julita let's what? I'm what? First thing, knew

of what was about the woman. Second, the father of she had

seen a woman young. And we're talking that this senior was a

old and then and then we're we're in mind that this

she was this great that kind to to

get to person one one never never know

with who the person that's the story that

me I know the good, Hector. What interesting? To you

that you like these things, what name you would to put you to the woman or

the type of art that she does for transmutal her because in the women, we know,

they're at times, to the perception of the world of the age. The people see like a woman

young, the people can be like a woman an senior, but really you know you know

that's the version real. If could transmutars in a beastia or in

a cryptid or something we could put it to tilder the well, it's a

well or something maybe maybe simply a bruca with a power

very ample that has the ability to convert yourself in something that's. Fugate in the

thing of the brujeria I see that there's like two vertients in the turn of

the animals in some in the version I mean obviously this is this

mystica this mythology not saying so that exists that but in

the phenomena in the phenomena in one is in the the the brou

or the the person in the another is in what they are

they can't a type of animal and at a distance have a certain level of control.

In this case, I know what is, for a detail, the distance. In the moment in the time in the time to receive a call and that

you're in other point, you're saying going to pass from a point to a point B in a question of seconds, no? That is the,

I think that is the methodology to the shifters. I don't remember if they are the Navajo or the type

of cultures that are in the certain zones of of the United they're the theory of

that the shifters are these like chamanes those chamehormas exactly those changeaforms can be they can't

like, but those are their animals family their they're just they're just them are

the famous Skin Walker is like the version demoniac or the version malignant of these

can be and they they're like they're they're like they change pales or shifter but like

they've got so much being besties or converted in what the powers obscures they gave the

ability to convertice that they were totally their humanity so at the time to transmutar

to return to your human you can't and they can't simply like the

guardians of certain the those those are they're they're they're

they're they're with the those shifters this is what That interesting. In these

things of the paranormal there are many phenomena. There are one in special that was of the first phenomena that we've been made a story that's made a story that's made me so very spelusnant because not had heard of the phenomenon

of the doppelganger? There's there's a family that I've got to say. First, I lamented much the situation that lived here, because if they've lived something that day of day of the

family in many of many of many of many of the story and I'm really the

story and I'm a little name of Natalia and is a cat's a man that

a child that we put us the name of Enrique Natalie and

Enrique so they're very, they're they many and they

have many many plans to future they they're

they're having are thinking to open a business and they're there's

some hobbies that one has been in one has also they're in the other they're in a vibrator

very the person around of them they're always they're always always always and we're

very we're not for being and that necessarily the things going to be going to

do you know the life a way sometimes is too and they're

a injustice total of a novel a It was a bit tragic. That's occurred

something terrible. And, of a day for another, Enrique, he's a little bad,

Ligeramente mal. There's there that he's there's he says, no I know

because, but I do I do you do this person, to the that nobody

wants to in a state very advanced. It's a part of that I

that I start to happen to come a very strange. There were four occasions that this, that I'm going to

to tell her, that was very strange. She in some moment, no see if for there was a time, because I had to get to get to give to some

he'd be able to his spouse. And he passed in the four occasions of the different. We're going

first on the occasion, as she was that she was going to a passio and something and it

and it and it and it hospital and he's in the second piece, see in the

plant a outside, to see her her husband, but he has something very strange. It's totally

in color, like gris, like if not there's and it's a image that it's a impact,

it's a eye the eyes, he's doing like if not being doing it does it

says, because he's out of the hospital and he he back and he he does

maybe he did a He knows. He's in a situation summating then he's down the escalarer, cruises the

doors, get to the door, and there's there, and when he'll be to be the house to where I'm there's been

to be there and he said, and he said, why you say, no, no, I've made a,

to put him to this and here he's been to still a little little bit more he's not, he says a time,

go to other of these her is a coming on a passio. I'll

say, for some situation, she's separate of the person, and see

at the front of the passio that's his husband, but now the gabardina, because they're

a type of gabardina that has has been like gray. And the image is impactant.

It's the final of the passio, he, back, he's they're

a subject of a gabardina of a color, no, sir, it's

It's a cold. It would be a person with gabardina. Regress to the fourth. The spouse is there.

The role that has that's a person who is the person, not is the role that the

person. Be the husband, the man's the person is his treatment,

she's the other way, this subject he has more color in the the rup. The situation

is that the last time he was that was totally colorido, that's

that same day, fallacy the husband. God me. I think this

also is associated with the phenomenon of a vocation, not? So, many

times it's the theory of the doppel gangger, that's present in

moments where like a kind of a kind of a kind of kind of

the biolocation like like if were a representation of this

energy vital that was that was the body and that

was being physically present of other form. Could it

could be the Opelkanger or could be this energy ethery of the person formandos

in other other side and when for the full full to be the way to form was when the

energy left the marriage as far too like that that energy of the body,

no I had thought so very interesting that's good planemement I think

in the phenomenon there's there's the question of the paranormal that's

the family nocturna. Considerer that the nomenclature utilized, not is well planned, and is very ambivou, because with a single name, it's quite a grand quantity of phenomena that sometimes, never

they're all that they're nothing in question as similar. In this case, if it's a much sense, just because he is living a situation of a time terminal, and there exists this phenomenon that

has seen in many people in those in those in those moments exist in a phenomenon of bilocation.

So, very interesting a planterment of the good. As well, about how they say

the people, the person is going to the person is recogying his pass, but here it was

even before, then, pass to pass, pass, pass, but,

but, tell me that's about, how that's, so, is what

they're, it's like it's, it's like, it's, that the people, that the

people, are, they're going to manifestarse, for example, they do some a family, but really that never was made.

Or, yeah, not was the person like that was doing that's or if they're in the suns or you can't

be, you know, and you say, it's, and it's really infusively because you say that

he's per to be able to and you get a, oh, oh, why is it's being so

this person? Why, why, why, and discover then you're or you're or that was

or that was in the or these people that were in their wife in and say, that's rare why my

abelita is here, my abel is at the other side of the republic, no see,

in the case of Mexico, and, well, the mother was going to be a

better life in that moment. Grand planeminted, what interesting. Now, about it, tell me a

story. A bit, right that you mentioned the phenomenon of the doppel

gangger and I'm to think a little in a little to do you what is

really? What is the legend that that's that's a kind of that's a

manifestation maligna that that brings messages of malaguerio that that

messages of tragedy of the disaster, things things that are

to be to the people to the person that's

is imitando this doppelganger. And I remember of a story that is more like a legend that also also that also that they're destruction and things feas of the people to the manifest. It's a

legend Iberica, although of the event in zones of Central America and South America, has presented, they've mentioned. But the origin as as a legend, is Iberica, in specific, of the folklore

Gallego and she's a Santa Compaia. No if in some moment of the

life has heard of the same a second company. A chica

a child and she gave me a lot of fear because she said a

she was a little to tell that you know, but only me said, for us

not a person we're we have a lot to have no, but my mom and

my mom and my old is it. Serious. Well, the is that I'm going to tell more

the structure of the legend. Aelande. The legend is conformed for this procession funnebred

that's in certain regions, especially of Galicia. They're in other regions

Ibericas but but it was the name that's the legend

that if it has been that the same the there is,

there's there certain that you have to be victim of this

procession and that then you, you can't the castigue of the Santa Company.

You can't what is the Santa companion? I mean, what is the vision of this

phenomenon? This phenomenon is practically a certain spectros or a

series of spectros that's a procession funebr they're in tundicas

men are men are some some some testimonies say

that they say they're not they're not they're they're they're

like spectrales or that they're like like if were people in a state

of putrefaction there are different vertientes and there different things that they're

of how the legend but the scabroo of the thing is that the people

that are the people who are the leaders of the Santa Compania is if

if you see to this procession in the the way you

you go you you now you form part

of and you do you do that is the leader that is a cargare a

a piece that's like a piece of the person the person to put the water in the

way to do the but what they're there's the the the

the same to do the there. There's there there's

that you come to the people that you can't you can you

do you get to you get to the part of the cross

that is like the castig for having been testigo

of her. One is that you have to do you want to get to

get to the one and not crosser mirate in

no moment with this procession. Other is that you

do you a hand you to have there can say

that you do you do you you have to be there

and you get to contact visual with any

of the process there. Other is to go

more less less than you're in the other of those entities

you have seen that you have seen in the way more as a

spiritual. And there a other that says that is confrontal but with

a reason specific or a or a oration like or

these orations that are to reprend to the entity that

that you do that there but no there

a version specific of what is to be able to reprend to the Santa

Company and that you can't get to be a bit of a matter but you can this procession what he does

is give a message of for the people to the people who the or the regions in the

where it's seen as they're like the like the legend of Motman yeah a tragedy

a tragedy that is the type of malagurio that that is the that is

that may that's that are that the comment is the forms of

to be repeller or to get to get to get to get to you get

to be and it's a new leader because eventually the person human

that's the person that's a person human that's that's a person who

that's a person who's that's a better than a version of a story that They're going to

this leader or this person vivable that is going to the Santa

company has the intention to find a victim that takes a place. Because as

a kind of a only way the only form to that the

one is to be someone and with the cause of the world

but it's the way that interesting when when I told

that that story that the Santa Company me

this chica that's a situation me said some I've ever seen

I've never never never never ever never she

I'm I don't I'm I don't I know I know what in what

they're they're they're they're they're that they're being

been been being this type of procession and that in that

people of that procession every certain time he'd be and that was not about the people where the people where were to hear

like the restos in the streets, be you know, people people coming all with this type of

thatuendo religious but he's here no there's no any no any any of

any of any kind of any the people who are those who those have been

after those we've been we're so you because you know

because you're the grito and it you're up you're little cities, the people are

little, the people are in the cadaver is anoche we're we're going to and there

people are the santa company, at noches we've seen the restos we've seen the tautures

and other no, and from the window I see that there's there's a person's like

so in this world that's not a legend is a reality and it's a lot of

a lot of so interesting I mean, no, no, to tell you to comment to pure casuality if that could be able to

see there comments of people of people? Yes, yes, not it was exclusive of there. No, it was

exclusive. But in the situation is that the abistamements that's had been taken to the

there's checkado no there not those can't contemporaneous. So, are stories of the

abelel, and in the case of her is at day of today of the

so I'm so on so many that many that's that you don't know that's

that they're that were them in the theory of because it could have to have a sense

really, really if we're we're on the history and the form

in how were uniqued or how was radical to the

caballier templaros is terrible the actually you know the the

the legend of the year oh for the day of the

annihilation of the Templarious, no? So, but it was in the moment specific or the night of the yearnest, 13th, a 13th of October,

that I was in a yearnest, he went to a maldiction because Kempann in the hogera, I think the name was Jacques Demole,

the last Cavalierreau. I think it was Philippe Quarto, the rei of France that was regent in that moment

and I don't remember that pap in specific, but that mancuerna between the re and the king and the pap,

they're desacers of all the Caballor Templarious and Jack de

Mollet was the ultimate and in the agger a thing that will be

to be the worst of the reenade of the region France and well

we knew years after what what was what but it

but that the mal story that you're a true that it's

spectros that form this procession funnebred have an origin templarious or are the spectros of the caballeroes.

The fact super interesting that is a formulated that that theory that are that they're a story

more narrating. Fidate that you me, you've just thinking because the reality is

that much of the legends have many many variations because when are experiences

when they're when they're written, when are the creativity of the people, but when

are experiences a sometimes the phenomenon but normal it really

like a protocol and repeat to get a way I've heard in the

Santa company a version and I remember if I'm this

that that that that they're and that so you

you see you see you you you and

you that that that person not the day

the day the day again of the vina, and why

they're why they know, I know, but it's the various versions that there's

there's a time of the other there's, there other that's there's

there's there kind of a fact of, the of,

no, so, he started a time or, or,

he a origin of a certain civilization in specific

but there certain variants that can have a

different because I know that is related with a legend about a

idea of a or a return or a return to a or a

attack a a thing, I'm not quite about that I'm

really about that has done the origin Germanic or Celtico Germanic

but well that's the Santa company the Santa company

there there stories of certain appearances very very

strange that me have there a she was a

situation very difficult when she had around of 12

years. When she has 12 years, they detect this this problem

of the we're not in a hospital in a hospital, and she

for six months. We had a good prognostico but there

was a not it was a problem that she was to consultate to

she not they was for a type of infection that

contrajo that she had to day of she didn't

remember that this infection, because it was a very contagious, and when they're doing an analysis of the same, they're talking, so they're also in the other situation. So, she's

in the cell of oncology, but is isolated. No, they want to put more people, because also it's a question of the infection. It's a infection, not a infection grave, but it's sparse very easily. Well, when she

is there, says that he lives in moments very difficult, obviously, being a a little and standing isolated and with very little contact

with the family not the family not could enter to to see to that then

then you start to these moments of soledad and these moments where she she feels

like very very very very very very very

very very a final is a little she she she

also also that time. The problem is that she is that she has no those records are bonitos. Only not is conscious of that. Recurrect with much carino and this is to enter

the family. After after that after the hospital, a time after, that she had made made of a very good group of friends and that

for the nights he'd to share moments with the little of that she had not knew where they were

and they were to go to to play and play and they're they're

the name Julietta Vanessa Alexander Alejandro Fabian and so there's

names of the children and they were their family the mom for curiosity

by and ask the hospital and give the description and various of

the cancer and they're they're they're not not

that have fallen not not in that cell but

in that so in some way she see

know passing the years, that was a very

a but of the phantas and there a story that

me impact much because it's of these situations that you're

living without you because I'll say the paranormal

in many occasions we we want we we're from

this thing you get to a place and then there

all all It's just in middle of the everyday, just of what you're always and there's

always a time that's to go to a new year to go to a reunion family and was going to

in Waxaca this this is too just a year to go to the house to a

tia that this she has a year a year and a year and they're

not a a car but it's a little a lot a

place that you you have an idea, has a small very, very great that is

like for television, but that is very strange. From the moment one,

that's the cell like that something that's something, it's

a big, a big, is of a big, and it

has a bar of madera just at a certain in front

of the room is of duela, and there is

where you put a a new a new a little

a place the place is very it's like because there

a space of the time because that's that bar never

thought in the past the car they they were that

that's a eccentric that's the place that's the

place and they they got they the second third

day that they in the room because what

they know a moment intimate and be a little but to be

a lot of the rest of the family and when they're in the door, they're

they're a because they're a little eight or eight years practicing

ballette in the cell and when they they're saying that they're that stons maybe

oh say those dimensions and the dimensions and the area is a lot of we're not

we're some time of some an amiga of my tia or no so, then just, they say, pardon, pardon, pardon, excuse me,

they're in the door, because at final they're in relation, but not are so close to get them to incommod or something, and they can make

that this tia that's a media that's bad to be defensive so much, so they're, so they're that's all

that's all, and so they're just the day in the day in the end of the thing, they're in the thing,

oh, yeah, I'm, let's see, that the other day, we came to ask you give

disculps because then we're going to come to his friend of what he

and we want to be a lot understand and we're going to see we to see that

the time and we're the girl that's a little and the she says then the

then there there's a ballette here and they're a little bit from the because of

they're they're saying there's a little and there another woman that is a lot

and that they're they're like dancing, and dancing, ballad. He said,

but I never ever seen to and I'm like that a bit of and they're like that

they're spantated. Never never went to go to the house of that

Tia. That's interesting, a ballerina a phantasm never had ever to know a story

of a ballerina fantasy. And you know, the story not was prepared

for this episode. Has two two two months or three in a

reunion of a one, a one man he said, I have a

anecdote and this is this like four years and if we're very assuptated because how

we've seen a phantasm and it's no, I mean, not they're nothing of a spantoso

just so we're just we're much a very we're in a house that a car's a lot of, in a car, in the carouser, in the next. the little, right

that mentioned about the history of the children that are the little the little and the

young ballerina phantasm will be the question to exist really the fantasmas with the

people, exist really the entities that are the other things are. I mean, I mean,

I'm, I'm going the advertency, I'm going to the other thing, the mal suerte

to topart with some type of entity, that has the appearance of a child, as if it's a man,

no, do you preference no, do you know, and let's and you intend to not vinculart

to any way. Because the options are the next. One, the most benigra,

if it's a little, really was a man who was a life, no transcended and it's

whatever is the thing, let's the thing, we're, we, we,

understanding that's in which there are a sustento scientific, but there are many anecdotes, and from there is where we're to docent to make or make a hypothesis,

but, well, the planterments. The plantiment, one, is the soul of a a child. A man. A man. But here is a

situation. No, for that is good. The idea of the new, we have been very romanticized. The children

are normally in those first steps, understanding of contexts and in that understanding of the context

social, they're going with the limits. So, their entomones and what are the world of

a class of education is because the the young to play with the limits, all we know, we've

been in primaria or in primary or in secondary a sometimes are somemating

and there are people that they're that because in some way in

their environment in the environment there's there's that the phantasmas

of the control emotional is correct and a little enojo

has that for the other person is a very very so

even when is a a man a man you can be a risk

too two the the more those most the more

and those that are that are the way

they they they are the doors. So, if is a

good a good, a good, very probably can be more more of the type that not was a

person who's that you don't know to be in interactual. Another way, as the buchos

of the abelos, they're getting a gato for libe. Ah, and

but here they're doing they're getting Gato Montez. Of those that areawn

and with the first point, with the first you're in resumens

there are people capricosos, there are veryinchudos that have their personality to transmutal in a version

spectrum, a version, no I like to say phantasmas at the hour to refer me to a spectro

that has another indole of apparition. The phantasmas those are more like these repetitions cyclical

of things that were. Interesting. But, well, going to the point of the phantasm

of the other, I'm part also, I also the vision of that can be those two variables, but really no one doesn't want to, no person has got to put to see if, well, if they're bad,

let me prove it. It's not establishes contact. And I remember of a vivance that, if you didn't have been related to a but as, I've been a little to things that have happened with me, that have happened in my life,

I remember of the of the few experiences as much over-coged that I have been

with a member of my family this story or this anecdote we have

Manuel and I my primo demand a salute I think it

the year I was about in 2012 2012 you

have a one that has in that so

he he he was with us with us with

my abelos and my mom. In that then, then, I was my abuela, and my mom, and Manuel lived with us with us. For questions familiar, he was living there with us. Really, he and I we grew up being super unidos, so

a year and mugre really more than primos, we're brothers. In that moment, all the present, I think we had to go to a time, it was, it was, it was a sabbado for the time. I don't remember exactly the but it was a

sabbado for the afternoon and we had a time for the night and we're to get a part. During the

the time we're putting up and for some question, like good primos or good primos or men,

we're we're not I don't want to be to go to no, you get to get to

much to where you know you know, I'm I'm up the second piece and

he's kind of the part one super encabronadisim for the

thing that I didn't even I don't even I don't know what was the question. Sub I'm

the second piece and I am I'm rummying my carage in my house and he he's

kept in the house I'm not I'm not I'm know, maybe it's three,

four of the time and with the the summer and the time it's kind of

I'm going to see a recourse watching watching the television and I'm never had

no time I'm not I'm never I'm not I'm was re-argling to

get to some the plan that we have done I'm in I'm in this,

I think is lethargo between the somnolence of being being, like you're you're just

you're doing, but of all the ways you are you and you know,

and I'm like, it's important to do a little kind of kind of the

question of the room in the the The room had a Cama

in the center the television of front a how are these

penators with a front the television the the a cloisetc

and a little right so so I was recostated on the

right there there was a kind of a paciito that

separate to the closet with the the closetetet was

that was the necessary for you could you I'm in the

oria of the so that passigito just with with back me to get to a lot.

I'm I'm like, I'm trying in this letargo and I'm to feel

like if a presence was up that something to be in that that was in that

was in that was like something that was there in that in that space.

No I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm like this oppression

so, but when I do know that it's something that's something that's something that's

me start to doorming the side the right and then it's to get to get the

because I'm getting to kind of a kind of not I'm not able to come but

what I'm so I'm a presence with a species of some manos imaginaries

or with a kind of an species of the kind of that were able to

be to start to push to the camera. And this energy

me was to go to and I don't he was moving. I mean

to have movements light on the side of but the right my

armigued completely. No, I was moved and it was and I

feel to be to find to feel that I feel that I'm getting

in a question of seconds I felt like if

was like my but I don't do do any movement and immediately I'm in the right. And there is when

I'm able to move completely and when like my my body has, I have the ability to move

all the and to put to sit me in the camera because that is what I do that my room

on the floor in the wall, I'm kept, no, three, four,

five seconds, thinking so as like, as they're like, as they're disociating

and in my, in my mind, the only that is Manuel. In my mind,

the only what is a man. I know why simply it's a person to be

a man in the mind. And, and without to have the intention to

go to see to go to look to be we're not, no, I

don't have been to have had been going to be a going to be able

to be a man, something, something something, without to me without

any voice or nothing for the style me he's about,

or I'm that I'm a I'm that I'm to go to be

about. I'm down the down the down the first he

was he was sitting in a in a in a time that

was that was that was that was that

the front and that was siloas very sigilosamely, me go to room to the kitchen, typical, abres the refri, and you're

you're trying to start, because you're not even confused, I know, I was doing, no, I didn't even because I had gone to, that, that was going to when I'm back to the cell, to go back to the second piece and just, like, to, do like, no, have passed anything,

he looked at very, very serious, me, he said, oh, you do, you backst here? And I, no, I've, I just to I'm going to I don't know less of one

minute no no but it's like three minutes four minutes and I no because

you say you're saying there's there's I'm like I'm like I'm like someone

in the and very serious to have we've we've been we're we've been

something that it was that it was to be forget the

enojo previo I need to talk to this he was

getting in that he was he was getting dormied like recosted with the head

to the head to the back to the and he he starts to come in this

sopor of he was going getting he was getting dormied.

In this inter in he's still is conscious because he's conscious because he

was the television and he was he was listening the music

the the Rued of the street, I was a movement, he was

still over he's he's in a way, because at he's going to

he was the way, he was the vision that he had to the door,

he saw, a sombra obscure in a dark on a second

piece conformed to the building of the house, you you see

a tram of the carer and there a little that has like, like if it's

like, it's a a space like to get to get a or sit at if you want, and then you

go to the other way, he said that's he was going and he was going and he starts to see, ah,

this is other detail, he's a little in the cellion in the that was like,

he was he was he was he's a little, he's going to go to the side

right. So, the venton was, collindaba with the side of the

side of but he's to feel to see that he's going to get to he's going to get,

he'll be to see, for what? For what? To getteners or like to spabilars or not

to get us? In that moment, he put the mirada in the descans of the

escalera and see a figure with a rasgos human or a

humanoid or something because he he can't see a kind of a

person or something or something something is a a figure

a that totally black and in that moment he is spanned much

in his mind he's to say Valeria Valeria Valeria Valeria

because he he's I want to think he's that's that's that's trying to

to be but he's he starts the eyes to say

to be no despirate you you're getting dormido you

you're trying and he's back and now that iscalones

about and you're sat in the escalones, and it's a being.

No, he'll can't see as far physical in the rostro, not can't

see how, I think, like, something, something, something, something is a figure

obscure, and a matter of that's, no, see, three, four of

the time, and there's a little bit of a result, if you

do you, to see, a, five meters of distance, no he'll

not able not perci he's, he's because simply it was a

sombre and projected. And, when he thinks that I'm going to say, Valeria, Valeria, Valeria,

Valeria, yeah, the eyes, he'll go over and then the way now in the

escalones about, vying it and has that sensation like that that's like that

he's a name, Valeria, Valeria, Valeria, Valeria, Valeria, but now

he's like, saying, or with a chance to want to give to give him

to go to do to you was being. In that moment, I'm

to get but his, the little they're not even even

the book, like this sentiment typical that we're in the we're

we're doing a movement brusco, or we want to we're we're

we're not we're not a little the labios, nor the hands, and very

just we just the very just he's he's he's he's he's

a person who knows where, So it pesca energetically of the sounds that hear in that moment that they're

in the moment that this is not this no, this no this no this no to be attack that's a

alasarce to get to the soil and in the moment in he will be to close the eyes

he's going to he's in his first position or he he was he was going he's in the position

in the position in the he was he's the way to the escalers and he's

seconds after me be back to me. So, that's that's, that spectro that he

was going probably was what he was was like, well, more being, I'm oprimed or

making me to feel like a kind of a special of a person or or trying to

make to make into a kind of that was a bigabund that was

a or an one or an one an one an

sombra, vagabund, that, of a repose a little to be a

spant to be a pair of people, this is very strong. And there's something that's

that's more more than I'm I'm about andres Florian. Andres

Florian had a experience very extrana, but before to get

to get to get to some kind of a Andres is a type very methodical,

quadratissimo. All his life practically is a routine. I do do so, but for him is perfect.

He he's a that all the things are in the and they're as they're

a, ah, is a a a that's a thing he has been

to be a person to be a person to do this they're more

more people because it is a perfectionist in all. Passing the

time, he'd incredibly well economically, being very young, having only seven years,

he had a house property, yeah, he had a good auto, and a very good work, but

a level social, we're a very much, it was a time, when he was, we're doing

that's a lot was a routine from the minute one to the final

of the day and he was perfectly happy, but he started to something that

no way to years. Soledad. And he started to start a little. Yeah,

to be so in the house in their routine, like that something he did it and then

he said toby. Toby, his his best his mascot, is a

perrito, no what's a but we're to say that that you

like, so he was that that Toby. And that they Andres Florian,

he was he was his grand friender, because Toby I'd learn to be a pretty very much.

So he could put to put up his and all and all was perfect for him.

Very, very very rapid. He knew where he had to his

necessities, I was the hour of the food, I was that the moment,

it was the moment of the game, and he was the that he especially was the

one he especially, the stationer the out of the out of the car before to enter to

the house I'd always to listen and if not was in the music

I'd and it was until that I'm to hear the carcould a

sound of the name toby there was one of his rages enter

and then and it was and it was across the door the first the first

secure second second secure third, secure, applauded one for that the

dog was there and he was he'd be a door and Toby he was he'd a little a little

but in a a second of escalero and there was he was he was he was feeling the

time when he had these hours, the house normally was sent to call it because he no one

a window a grand abirted and just little little ventilas and the perritte he seemed that no

he suffered. What was what he he did he? He was he'd be a carer, he he would be his romeyser

the door he'd keep the camis and he was always in a perchero he'd a cell

and in the cella he was sent over the back to a paret he had a he'd

sit down he'd he'd he'd and he he'd just in front a

venting that he'd he'd he'd He sat downed, he'd enter and after the

second, and then the second, he talked toby, and Toby went to be running and he put the

head into the feet and he was a carisian. A routine exact, perfect,

of the many times that's repeated one and another way. He

was he was a person because not he could be change. If

had anything, he was stressable much but of other

way Much Felicity. There was a time that for situations of work, he had to

have a routine very different because he had to go to the city during a a month, a month and

a minute. But he had much fear to the poor Toby there and even he had to

the things exactas not he he's not to be a man so, he said,

he he said he could do you he could do this time, and he

exact and the form in the way in the I had to eat to eat to be a little even a real realation.

The primo is he's a person who is he said, I'm going to get to but no I'm going to

get you think I'm going to and renegando and I'm going to use the house like or

you're not you know he said no no, then I'm there's not no, then there's

there a question of money passed this a week, he regress and when he goes, well, first,

some courage tremendous because the roll of paper was a little bit more because in the refrigerator

that I'm exactly two mansana every day, now just there was two, the eggs

that were in their and so, well, puros, little details that were for a

for a infirno, but in two days, the life to the normal,

it's a time, and the A repent a day, get, detain the car, he's a question,

make the sound, make the sound of the door, make, the door, he's

a time, he's on the house, he's sit in this sill,

after the window, he's about to get to be to be and then

he's he, he's he and he There is a lot, enormous, that he posed

a type of or something because he no never, and he's he's not pressonating. And he is presson with

a level of force that he never had seen. A menace absolute. He starts to tell us,

he doesn't do you know want to work because he doesn't see those eyes, and he starts

the eyes and he's dislisa of a way to get in the piece and they're just

just being the and where he's a way's there's there's

going to from that one of the stairs where there's the those are the little of feet of

and where be that he he's a sustad and he's so he's he's he's

going to talk about the toby because no he's that he he's

to take to make to get to he he's that he he's

he but he he's he's going to get to and he's

He a mil for hour and when he gets to the escaleras he gets toby and cargaring it and where he's there's a rostro black

with an little he's going to go to look to see it and see a he'll grab a toby like if

was in the piece of a and as if so no stuier and he's going to the door

and he tumbling and the hands that the little the keys and they're one and

another to be the house and not escaleras and that they're in the cell and they're

and they're they are directly to he's finally not he's able the door

the door abirate the reja he's he's set put the

perr in the piece and he's about in his quadra

he'd totally submerged in pensamination he he doesn't

enter in that house he he he during

the next days he is He was he was not in his vehicle outside of his house. He's totally aterrowered.

What he saw, not was a human, definitively. What he felt, not was human. Why? Because, because the detrase of that the building, there's a form

in that that that's a quirk could be there there, he was there and he was he pressed on the sillon.

His head is doing short circuits for all parts and, of a little idea that's a little idea that comes there and he

says, your primo. My primo did something in the house. Never had passed nothing here.

And then he starts to look like. After that he's topa with him, because he does a

question that he's got going to, he says if he's did he did he did he

did he could have done for that this type of things. When he

the primo he said with much a very very we're we're doing weh and weh

and weh and said and what is Wihha and then he's a photographia and he says

and so what is to it's for contact to contact spirits and he said what did

what in my house he said well we we're doing this is a game

the situation was that when when when when we we're doing in the third day, there was a sensation

of that there was a little bit, but very strong. And he said, where sentiste that's that? Detrayal, the cell in the head in front of the window. Where you had left the whiha? Dice, no, we can't take. It was like, it waser, and it was. But

after, where did it be? Because I regreleged to house, and no was there. When I regrevece, I was not I, no, I moved. I. The wheyha, they They were found just in the camera of the one Florian

between the camera and the base, as if someone would have put it in there for a record. He said, I know who he he said, but

after many intents of me could do you do this. And then they've been going to have to be back.

Why? Because the people do that's a place? So, they can be the confidence,

especially the family and that's they're trying to do that that's I'm

I'm I'm a I'm a notolism even because vandalism spiritual

vandalism spiritual but look that's something you comment you

something with a mascot because other of the little of the

little that I have I'm like experiences personal is

that is related with a mascot that unfortunately

that that still I have with I can

to do that perrita and he went to the family in a moment indicated. To tell well the

history, I need to talk about the context. It was the year 2020, we know

what was what was what was going to the emergency sanitary. The emergency

was in apogeo, was recently a contingency. It's May 20 and unfortunately we pass for one

of the peridities that is the family, that is the family, that's the

and in this moment, then it's toca all the energy spiritual, moral,

physical, at all the levels of the family. Unfortunately, we're we we're a partida

very in peace, because no took nothing to be and it was related with this

the of that that's that was in the moment. Simply it was

like a day decided that was sufficient, that it was a moment to start

and at the next the morning, it's yeah, they're

saying, so more than the moment that that has been the moment that has been

that the person that were to start so, or part so. Well,

It's this moment to the family Obviously, all the world is atrastocated at a level emotional

very very very very overcogedora the experience because not me

had to have a duel or living a duel from much time after

when it was the period of my abuel but obviously

after of various years of to live the life and to grow and recollectar and re-collecting

and emotional that are people to help you over-givable so I'm going to do a better but even as it was something

was something was something difficult in your moment and it's something that never you never you

never to assimilar but you learns to live with well in your moment

very recent this more than all all the all the the whole

that was And they've started things that me made that

had there had happened something not I'd say

paranormal I'm I'm don't say that you didn't feel

good and listening your podcast I learned the

difference between the terms of a indol a indol a

indol very benigna that I think I think I think to make a little

more specific and explain the why of this sensation in those moments I have to say a

point of how they were very dramatic and a me to experiment the to be seeing the

to give me to give me a better and in that moment to try to do all possible

for that he was regressara because not had not I don't have the conscience of

what was going to not was prepared to see what was going and then that's the

reaction that would be any person in the moment in that you have a person who

a person or a thing, I'm going to do I'm to try to do you do something

because this is recent or or you have to be a and then maybe

can mark the difference in that in that just moment

and because of how it was the the success I have a contact with him

a time after a friend very very very apegated to the

spiritual me explain that could have established an contact

with with having established with a world that

not not is not made for the not

and that and those can't that's, if you don't see,

if you know, depending on the type of of the linkable that that's interlaced, those are

sensible to that kind of things that are in the world spiritual or to the man,

the end and is the time to know, until that's to know, to get a

time in that all the I'm I'm going, in that house of the house of my infancy,

the house of my Juvenut. Cosses, like this that I commented in the history previous, like a oppression extrana, like a infestation, like if there were

an energy, a energy very mal that would have the objective of to be ostigar me or to be that I'm really to feel

or that this duel or would be in a way, well, the, the, the, of the

way in one where me would be to be it's physical and emotionally to get in a limit

that maybe no way to get a return. I'm going to feel that energy. Curiosamente

and unfortunately they're more situations of family are, that are

to part days after that did the casuality that that other family

a primed part. And for me it was a surprise to I'm doing

that maybe, I know my thought my thought and like my grossly

I'm going to my family, what I'm doing to do you do you know I'm doing

I'm I'm I'm this this phase of the duels to get

you're you're a situation to be a lot that we're a circumstance

in a that in some we're in some we're so we're so it's

the destiny of the human. I'm I'm I'm to start for that my energy

is to feel a little more more more I'm I'm I'm

experimenter this ostigament for call it a way because

the activities that normally I would be in my house then

I don't I'm I'm to be a time in the patio

that that's to be to be there sentada, to me

something, if it's a vera to make something, if it's in the winter, if it's

a time or relax me before, before to go to do that. Now, that's

not the because, that all the television to all the television, and then there was running in the

space, I was I'm being me and they were trying to attack me. to the point in that

there were nights in that I'd of the fear before before I'm because I'm looking that there were

my eyes and I'm this is getting to a point critical and talking with this friend that

he said that maybe had established a link with a type of energy that regularly

round a situation where there people who parten or that go to this world

and he he said that try to do some kind of a ritual to

make a thing to purgarm energetically and to start those

those those canals that that maybe had been

I said is what you do you do do because I

want to do I'm I'm to get this energy

so I can I don't because I'm to

get a start a many some many the house, as

me the hostigament unfortunately that's in dreams. As really no, there was

an opportunity to say to say, the part of the due to be a posterior,

making, like, this recapitulation of the actions and trying to

say, it's part of the life, et cetera. The story that we know

about this. To get to this point, in some moment, someone

someone me said, you you're going to start to start to

you're going to you're going to you're going to you're going to it's the most common is the

most typical is it's, and they're going to they're saying to God

you're they're going to you're to be going to be okay I'm I'm

I'm I'm with him or with things related to

but not not of a form very beautiful that we

know. The first I remember that I'm that I'm quite

was a really I'm I'm in a little I'm more

more than I'm really I was a not it was a special I'm

was a little that I had a lot and I had a like

the light of the sun and I'm I'm

to hear to hear of a RUIDO, like the psychophonia more long

of the story. I don't know if in some point or the family nocturn or your narrator, it's

I think it's of an investigator that's a German of Arumosa. Buskela. It's only a

cortecito. But, well, it's practically a sonodod of pandemonium. So, sonidos of

animals, sonodos teticos, voices cavernos, gritos, all that combination

of that combination of sound and it's a sound in the space in

where I know I'm found out of a bit of a little bit of a little

really a little a point of a marco that was that was that

that was that was that so obviously I'm a

little of the I'm what what's I'm I'm sure

this probably is a probably is a probably I'm trying to

force me to start me un-deme, like to not to not to get or not, not-lough

to get to get a question, it was just a dream, it was a one- a-pessal-

just. As I don't do get to start, I think, if I go to the

door, then I go to this prison of the wall, that is the

sun. The light was that was, it was to be to be

I heard of that mark of that a mark without without a point of

a market I'm in the question I'm a piece of a piece of a black or in tunae

or in tuneica black altissima I think the form more more the type

of entity that I'm being is like if were a opheratoo the factions

very very delgated ears puntiagudas eyes profound like between

amarilloes and morris, like if were this libor mortis, that typical of the corpours, very, very high with a gabardina a color

black, that he agarra the end up and it's like, I'm trying to amadrentarme. I was

close the mark of the door and this figure like a gachach the head, and me be the

side and try to do this gesture of amadentation, like, I'm going to go

to be on the I'm going to attack. But something I don't know in specific, no, no, I don't

recall, reaction a okay, you're a play, va' be a be a

come. He wants, like, he's going to do you do it, but no it's,

he's, I'm going to get to get to, but I know that I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm I'm the end the marco of the marco

and they're talled cruces at the long of this mark like if with a

case someone he had had taken to crosses to this mark

and there is where I look and I'm to look at this entity and I

don't you can enter you you can cross you and in

that something I'm makes to make to say you

you have you you have you you have those you

you have to do this not you do

do do I'm enfrento, if they're like it like repression or reprend to this entity

I think is correctly to say it reprending this entity, I'm saying, you don't you can't

make me do you, you can't do you, I can more than you. And in that moment

I'm that's was like the first well, as the first act

of amed amederation that suffer in this period like a duel extreme, platicating with psychologists and

with different people, me they're saying, maybe you're going to a moment of a tension

psychological very strong, your mind is going and you're sending these messages with visions very

scalofriante to, for, to give a message, well, the end the

person, the thing, but I'm there's a doubt, I'm still, I'm

has tints simply of messages of the inconscient this

is a different I'm a different and I'm going to be there other

manifestations and the consequences are to be the if I do this

I'm in the terrain of the onirical it will be

going to when they when they're so I'm don't know where

I'm I'm to experiment other dream the last, I've

to experimented another I don't I'm not the I'm in specific how it.

And a third. It's a third and final of the dreams scabrosos

for this for this had visited a tea to the house

during this time for the situation and she

she and she has been to she had seen a woman that was

she was He was just she was her She was recosted Boca-A-Rivered Abrio the Eyes

like the night of the night No, know any at what she only simply no there was

there was still was the night and he was a manh or bestida like a

a bit parada in the mark of the door and in when she opened she

she opened the she was she was she gotcha and she gotcha and the moment

she was that And you know know what happened simply it's the day

the day the same he's he's not a first of I'm know that

this anecdote and I me so me it's so I'm really that's because

just this was in the time in where I had had had been

a room in this same in this second to the abel

I had a was a entity that was very

very like in factions to what I had seen in the dream but I was a vestida like with a

habit and had a horrible, I am I'm sorry I'm sorry that's that thing

was like a 20 meters of distance of me that was all this passillo that

recorri to the extreme to the bedroom I was in an room

this this thing was out of the thing that had pertensid

to my abel my abel I'm in the Marco of the room,

the room, I'm in the room, I'm in the same that's the same

the same I'm not the same thing, what you want you do, what you want to what you

see the is the that's the picture in the car? And I said, I think,

I've got so I'm months, I think that, after that had been past

like two or three months, that was that type of, episodes, like where

they'd amendrinted or they were going to do this are not really, if these are simply pesadillas,

no me important if this is an hostigament demoniac that's being present by the

way of the first step to amedentar or posseer any any type of intention

that has or natural of what this is it, I don't me import if you you want to

to get to this is the moment so this is the moment, so enterly, where that that's

like a little bit he's a little bit it's not a

really that I'm so it's well, here we're and I'm feel

like I'm to go to where that that's practically like we we're

to talk and before of the before we're not before we're

not so two three meters to just three this context of this

story that we we're talking has relation with a mascot because all this happens in a period of the success of the partida

of my abuel was in May, all this happened between June and July. In July of 2020, to the house of the family a girl that was at point of to have caturrits.

My mom and I, we say, you, we'll give you, we'll give us a poor perrita, for that can't have the cachorritos, we're going to do a space here in the in the porch for that she

could, you know, put a, put a lot to do you, the time goes, the time passes,

we're in adoption to the caturritus, and at the end adoption, but we'd be

we're very we're very with her, and then it's practically a member more, with all the

mascots, that are part of the family. But, time I did or I in mind that

during the time in that was living the duel and that was being hostigated for these entities,

let's say, by means of the visions and my familyaries had been had been

had been this that this sensation that that had

had sernido on the house, one of the details that I I

I'm that I was that during that when I saw there

had people because we could join us for the emergency sanitary. Salia,

10 of the night, I was in my friend, everything, all right, so much good,

Rises, at the morning, it was a moment to get a house, and I

had a time, to open the door and to enter and to cross the

door, to do the door to the room of my abelel, and I mean,

to do terror, at the point in that's me salient the time of the family in question that has been

to my house, because I don't want to get to me, I'm never to see to be

to the window when I had the canded the, the porton of the front of

the porch to the porch to the door to the door to put to the house

to be to be uprook, because I felt an oppression horrible. Well, this

starts to a raise that the little to the cat's. Tiempo after, it's in

November, of the 2020, for fin I've been that my abelel

where does the time. Curiously it was a two of November.

And a I'm a very beautiful, the really. I'm

that I'm like, okay, a part of all to be

to all better to during that that month talking things

related to other another friend me get to comment oh yeah how you how

how you how you you're going to you know well you know you know and I said well

yeah it's it's a you know to what you you're you're talking you're that's the

name of the perrita he gave to give a light to the house when two

months after had been a socese of death. So, she

came to balanceer this situation. And since we've been in the family that

she was an angelito that was made my little the movement energetic for that

to be a little the thing. No did it never to happen

to happen to happen to be to be that you, you know, that's a entity that

being a lot like and someone more experimented about in the

house? In that house, no. There were other comments of other

tias that said they said to have seen to my abuel, but

manifested in his houses. One of of the one of the comments that one

of the was that was that I was sent to the side, she was

she she she was she was she was he was he and he was

and and Credit? No, I don't see say, or give us the relevance that should have

had been to that's a anecdote that that had in specific, because I never I never thought

that was he was, I mean, for the form in how they were the form in how

it was, I never really, that had decided that had decided after after had said,

no had to to return. So, if were that type of visions or if had that

type of manifestations, okay, probably they were being able to be able to me that are families

because, well, there an anecdote 10 years after that was a similar, when

was the partida of my abuela, there actually the thing was

totally different because when she was she went, we We say here the version was,

she no care to go to, and in the case of my abuel, he probably did he, probably maybe he's going to go. When so was the, what of my, regressing the time, to 2011, nobody,

if, had some, any, if, had some success, that, that were the sufficiently scabroo to tell it,

well, he was, hepulted in the ba'-ole-de-l of the records, and no, comment, but various

years after one of my Tios he said, he said after the partida

of her and then after the services correspondient to a, a situation like this,

he regress to his house, he, he's not in Mexico. Regress to his

house and obviously with the emotions a floor of a full of a night,

it seems that comes that's he's his abitation for, I don't I'm going to

go to go to be a or I'm to get a time. The point is that was that's

a lot of night, it's he's to get to get to a room, to go to

get to the cell or the and the back, and the house and in the

cell, as my my abel solie to visit much to this

Tio had a me a one on the when he was

going to go be sentada in her mecedura. The way sentada like if if it would have passed anything, like if it was a day normal, with her to visit. And even,

I saw, the view sat down with the pierna-cruised, meney-law, as always, and the only that is, he's, he, and

before to continue coming down, he, he's not, that's a point to say, she, she's a point to talk, and he,

before to continue with his and he says, no, no.

No, no, no you don't you don't you don't you're to be able to

get to be to get to the other and that's that's the that's, I mean, I was,

when I know that when I'm that's many years after, I was I was

because she was she was not there so it so it's so it was the

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When when we we know obviously in the in the cold

of the moment you think that this is you think the that the

was a second a second a your reaction is to do you do

whatever anything in your hands to make to make so

what I do do is a movement of RCP and

establishes contact of with, with the person for the heart of the

heart. The brain. Exactly. That's that's different. I'm, I'm,

I'm doing the process of the way of some of the many of many of my people who

have this thing, the thing, it was where the insuffel? No I think.

I think I've mentioned that was like the linkulation of the chakras.

And And as he practically was transcending in that moment had been during that that's that's

they're in that was able to the chakras like that all was happening and it was

ideal for that there was there was there was a kind of that type of

that people that were around because it's like it's when it's when

a process tragic that of a energy or a vibra very,

very dense, dense, very very darked, very obscura.

Something so had, should have been to round and had been

been having been covered the moment, and the fact that

I was, I'm that I was a that he was that's that I

had been happened that during those months and after to get

to get to ced all, I've this class of ostigament more like

energetic, spiritual. Affortunately the visions not came from which I know,

because if not would be dischabettated in a manicobio definitely. It's that's that's

that's you, you're a manate of the tarot we're we're we're

we're talking but for more that you this themeatic is

very distinct to affrontal in the world yeah, of the material

in the world in the world of the vigilia. I think in the relato, in the stories, have this

magic that the brain is perfectly saying, is that is that is that is a

great, because it's real. And yeah when you confronts a situation in the

that you runpe for complete, for what you understand, it generates

a shock that profound that in people those have trauma,

in other people the state emotional that are very difficult to manage. It's

very interesting because we really know normally the relatoes until the end of

the story. But when are stories real, that person still was the

person who lived in the repercussions or effect have been to do. A me,

I mean, me a surprise nothing great to know that in the

case of the possessions, when are the exorcismos some of those

people are affected by life and then even if yeah not not is present the position well

there were affections a level cognitive or there were affections a level physiological and no there

there will have to continue to continue to carry a shock so profound and so

tremendous that generate a that then that then usually usually

usually like I imagine you don't to get to get

to a day with the stories that they're about the people who are interested

for know of the phenomenon or they're to get the phenomenon but one

is to hear the story that someone to another another

thing is different is living to even that even every

every every ever I've been a fan and am

the content and and the other I'm I'm

trying to make a thing of things is that

that not trastoke the level of practice, that not trastoke something in what I involve or me

insuci the hands in what in what is in my tranquillity and my style of

life. And right I think that you to go to go and I made

a story that me shared we let's let's let me

a this story is related with a culto or a

community of young like Christian evangelicals? No, no, I

don't remember very well let's let's a one, a congregation of

young because since was always had seen a grand inclination

for the faith studied in college of his primary

and the second was in a college laico but always

he always he took in him like this

was that in a at having been, studying in a college of Monjas Catholic, never seemed that really could be the same. But, yeah, in his life adult, in his first years of youth, he gets a, he gets a invitation of this congregation

of the young people, and to his pair. Obviously, very, very emoconized because they've been invited to this, decide to go and decide to try to see how they're, if it's a place in which they really pertaints can, and in where not to feel, uh, no, abrimed, or the type of,

of circumstances that, or, for the type of circumstances, and, over all the type of orientation, that's both he and his his wife have. Um, get, at the principle, all very good,

obviously, not are explicit, or nothing for the, or the, or the, simply, they're, they're,

they're doing the situation as, um, they're, um, they're, they're, they're,

they're, they're, they're, is that are, like activities that are doing after the cults

and at hours of they're they're in those they're practically practicate the

word or they say the word or pastor pastor in question has like a little

a little oration and he he's he to do, maybe to make a

make a a moment of having a moment of he he's he's very

accoged obviously this congregation is divided by certain groups, and there are certain leaders that are like to practically to direct to many numbers of young people that are involved in this

community, and he's a very accogied by the leader that he took in his moment, and the pastor with that had been having communication also, he, is a good with her. Sin however, conformed were passing the years, and a

to he went to all the days of the time to the

time to the time to the activities that that they

they're and he's a little of if not say

or this invitation not this or this or

press group repal not not to not to

continue in the group but to continue to

the thing he was exactly where was where in his moment,

also his partner was seeing this. Like, I'm to do a

other, he's to feel to make a pressure of a invitation to think

to think different. So, there is where he says, that's sufficient.

I respect much the ideas and the way of the life of

the people, but obviously I want to want to be a

good, in a place, then no there's no no

all All is perfect. All we are friends. Every one's in their way. They're going to get to the events and the

activities. Time after he's rompe with this and he still passing. He's living his life.

Some months after that, he received a message of a child that form part of this community,

the which not had known during the period in that was

this child. This chico he gets to invite to to go and he

He, he, trying to to make memory, he says, I don't record this child, of this chico, of this he's,

I don't, I remember to have been in any activity contact with this person. He'll

add in the media to get to get to the community, that will be a activities very

bad, that will be a opportunity perfect to convivir. But, well,

conformed when, they were passing the days, he did know that the

time of this child went a little more more encamined

to the to do this coercion of that regressor to gores the group. So, well, yeah,

that's that for the terrain personal or that's with the community, well, me interest to

know it's someone who I've been talking very and why not. So, they're the

opportunity, they're it, it's, it's a kind of there's you know,

I think it's moment to go to the community, as this person has a same vision of of life than I

and form a part of this group, of this organization of young, maybe now are different or have changed their line of thinking they're more flexible

or simply going to accept to the person as people, which I think I think I should be. Well, after this, he regress a

this congregation, that community, they're going to have been to live activities and one of these activities in some

moment, they're to go to a retreat, a retreat of three days, to a part of a

rancheria at New Leone. Okay, perfect. They're in this retiro, because practically live the

activities or have the experiences that commonly are to be done of these retires, but to

Santiago what he's a very marked, is that in his first day, or more

in his first night in the return of the return, is that he he

he took to be a kind of a moment of liberation or where he

he, he, he he's like if was a exorcism he's like he

was a little because at the moment in that he was that

he was a moment to do that that is put that

all those entities that they're in the he

really is septic completely and he's well okay I'm

just I'm to do what I'm being dictating

to form part of the activity but surprise,

he's to see how people start to retorce in the soil,

they're to be to get and they're gritts that really not son like,

that were that were going to be back to get to very surprised and he

he, he's he starts but he does a question that that that

that not that that's that unigna for some an

entity benignign or to have the grace of

the Spirit Santo on he he he's to rest

or or or to like in an act of protection because I'm a

and when we're about this story he said that that

that's that you see that in the that I

would be to give a a calm or

the being that being that something you being

being a part of a moment um well, a

, a about a great should to try to bring

to or the no a sense different to that

that's the first night. In the second night they were

to an thing that same situation they make

a kind of a expression groupal and he in

the place that this past that should be with a anxiety

or with an tension that the is a weird

in where it's a feeling like the thing, it's a lot of

a last of the last and the last, they were a activity

that was, they were, they were, they were, and offer the person that was the person

that was going to a person, you're going to be a crucial in your life

and to who they have to offer a disculp or someone who who think they're going to pardoning and to give them to turn and leave it to make a better form. He thinks in a person in specific he,

he's, he's going to take all the details of the, or so, he's, to do it, so, he's, they're, and he's even sceptical, a, a, a,

the past of having lived, all that experience of the night's previous, starts to feel like a a a

to be a to be able to get to to manifest in form of to have to have to be

to make to get to get to get to the person that was the

activity that was he was a and he and the the leader of

the group of the young he he gets to

he he he he he make they do

of offering the pardon and like to go back in-see and to be able to be able to be to be quite. Well, that were those activities that were done in the time. At the day next, when he

gets to his house, he gets a room, normal, pass to his day normal, and in the night he's going to be to be, but he's going to

do with a sensation extrana. Like, like, something was not was a, no, I don't

see, He's a feeling intranquil for, for something, like if that sensation, like when you're going to do you're going to resolve, and you're to resolve, that sensation. He's going to be in his dream, a way completely

blank, like a parage completely blank for the way that he goes and a peace and a, a ligereza in all his body, in that he's he has a strange and, he, of some way, he's doing, but he

then he's going to walk and recorrer this parage, and it's very tranquil and it's that there pertainse. But, from a moment to another, like, all that quote of a hadas that was having in his dream, he's going to finder a negro, and he's to feel like if an energy obscura was being, practically, the scene, and

it would start to try and start to him. In that moment, and, despite of having lived all the experience previous a previous, you know, that has

the value sufficient to be that's about, that's about, and then

he's a reprending to get a something that's that that's symbolically

to make to make a clearity that's front of him. But in the moment in that

he tries to do a question, because as part of the activities that had

lived in this retire was to learn the oration of how invocation how invocation to

invocation to his time in his dream, trying to record the words, and in the moment in

he's doing the oration, a voice a little literally a voice in his ear and he starts to say,

ha, ha, ha, you, querient to invoking to call it impossible. So, he's a

start to feel less, it's to get to debilitar, it, and it he's

a to, he starts to get a moral like

practically fall rendid and that's been in that's that he does

he says that he says he has the sensation like if you attack

to the apnea of that's you're trying to you're

and you want to get and you want you you're

you you're to move but you you can do

a moment to other simply you're like, you're you're

you're practically you're practically, practically, you're after this. After

this, he's a little, he's a little, like, the tension that's

accumulated in the life that had been had been that had seen, he,

he's a recent so, it's in the middle of the

morning, and he, he was, and he a leader of his group. And he

said, Hello, So do you? Hello, Pastor, pastor in question, and with the leader that he had that had written that message, and they said that they'd give permission to go to his house to do a oration, more than to do, more than to liberate

the entom of energy negative or identities negative. They're going to his house, they're going to do you, do you, of a casualty, in some moment, you've got some of some of these games of or

you've got to do you know or practicates some or something for the style that's

about this type of cults associate with the appertura of and with

all these these practices pagans slash profan that can

propitiar the portals for in what entities enter and

invad embad spaces and he's a sceptical or

without context about of these things, he's when I was when I was

when I was a second I'm at a wisha but of those wichas of the jubgette

obviously this people say no important way no important

any type so so say in those palitos so so it's a one

a so yeah a table a parton to the you put you put you

That you put up just the signos, no important what you have been, if you did energy to to establish a

contact with a entity, there's a there's a part of and he said, he said, he said,

he said, he said, he said, various, rituals for a liberation in their and in their

space, and in his recamara. And, well, despite of that's, and this

anecdote, it was so it's a appropriate for, like,

like, give to the turn to the turn to with the thing. Grand

history. Grand, grand, grand, grand, great, great, great,

story. Yeah, the fact, is that for him was, for him

to do other other, um, more to say, uh, to say,

you know, you know, you know, I'm going to go to , what type

of things was related to the people, to things they were

opening the door thinking that was going for, no see, the

things positive or think that was giving the good to the

good and so it is that no. It's that is

strange the I'll say, I'll say, I'm not

the not the rules that we have done

the things the thing of the day of

the many the many the many No, there still a good sustento,

a good investigation. And that the conclusions to those that many are those that are the conclusions very appresurated or that are

very convenient for those marcos of creencers, for that you expressing in the way in the that it is that they're

in where they're notated, and this me refer to many lines of the things of all the

type, that the hour in the phenomenon are in the asserations, are full of those and are the contradictions, and are

those things that are not terminate. Retomando, I mean, in the situation of, the story that I've heard of these cults Christian, this is the history that I've heard of people that were very involved in those cults. my record, was a university

in the United that's going to occur in phenomena of the type

supernatural with students that were very involved with this part

like the and he and he and and it and people

people that people who can be a part of this

group were Christians Protestants other other part of

the group were Catholic were a group type ecumen

for having creedciaries, then we convivism, even if we're of denominations or creences finales distinct. No, it's important. There's a sacerdote Franciscano that they're a lot, because this type was a type of very good juice and they'd that were what was occurring there. So, he's done that various of the phenomena

are very volatiles, and that not because if it's occurring something simply and it's very natural, it could

adjudicate to what he he's like he's a lot of a person is not because a person is

a person's not the person who intermino. This is not so not to determine so.

A type of much judgment with much aperture. It's not they didn't.

And what is what he's of much and with this is not a critical,

this is a thing, it's a kind of to be a and people who were very involved in this

theme, that were in the group charismatic, me they're saying, for that's all day of today is a little bit of pins. Because, but really, we don't know, or so, we're decimals in what we're doing, but occur in things very rare,

at times. One of these groups, in one occasion I took, like, a certain sercania, because I know, of the existence of this type of group. simply

there are some some chants that are a mission in a group of missions in which I

would I'm always it was a more an experience of a type social

cultural and that had some some impact emotional and

spiritual but not was a a a great

a very very very the situation is that

the a repented a group in the group in the they're all very very

very very very very very asthmers and so me is me is a

very extrano because the environment normally in an environment of a lot of a lot of a lot of

a union and this group of you've been abackado separated and talking

in Cuchichios and to me it's made so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm so I'm

so I what they're in this ambient it's me made very out of the rest of contexts.

And me they're that in the group had a person with a practice charismatic

very effervescent and then those put to do certain and resulto that one

of the little she was that was and it was to what how

how it was and for that that and difficult and indigest, the theme of the position. This chick,

not going to go to the mission. Nobody was it. Finally, he'd, that, for favor, they'd be the opportunity to go, blah, blah, but nobody

he knows. She has got to enter and the day next day's the next day's going to her, no, there's family,

of her, nobody of her and she is a friend of her, then it's a new in a group new, and of a

this chick in a middle of an oration they said to say to all his things that

they're all that they're all over that you know that's not a way things of the relationship,

things of you know you know you know you did these things and you did this

other you that you're you're you're you you're that's

information that nobody that's that's nobody that there is

Cognition occult and this chick Tupy, and this, but they were too tacy, turnos, because is that. The effect, after a question of this type, mal-givated, affect the spirituality, the emotion, the mentality of all,

and to all of them left us as well as a child. That chick, she was going to even a time more, and then he left a way and he had putt like a grand barrier with

all. So, ah, of these situations that occur And more the phenomenon that more than to express

or to give to this signal, me is one of the signals to

to recognize that there a possession in a person the know of a pair of

a pair of some more. Uh, more of that there was there

or simply was it was it was the people well is that

fickate the sanssonism in the Glosia, the Connocult, in cases exasperately extreme, I go, but we're saying

extreme, but we're talking of levitation, and she took, but this no, it's not a one of those effects, because

also in many other cases, she changed her voice to the of a man, and not was a person, and not were a

voice, doble, locution, and then they said there were, I think, conton those

multiple, and then is when he said when he said the realities of each

you can't imagine the environment with the people of the world and that they're

in a movie of they're they're they're they're traumatized but not.

After where I were the knowledge of the knowledge of independently because we're

we're we're so it says that the position or the Warren I'm

that were there were levels but the sacerdotes that's that's that's

minimum, from our credence, no function so. So, we're different forms of

to board this phenomenon and perspectives of exactly how it. In the case of she were

graded of position or if it were at the manifestation of a position that was a position that

was a entity, that minimum, his intentions were supermating because I'm sure

to say to each one to destroy those with a phrase, they'd really

affected. And in a group of people of people of 20 years that's you're

a lot, you're you're about to attack. And especially that's that's

very occultas in front of the group to expose and with the impact of a voice that

no correspond to the person more I'm I'm I'm

that I'm never that you know to be it's it was

a for a for a History narrator. A me will be

to be to be all the thing to be really I feel a person

in paulies completely in quite in quite a knowledge about this how

they're about different doctrines from the spirit Christian

from how it's the way for the Catholic how

how he would be a through a way of a

faith for example, that me is the most interesting

as a person that profesa the a faith would to to be a

to be a rabbi or it a a patriarch or I don't see

any any a a person those are the people

that all the that what is what that he is

practically debilitary more to the person for what,

to maybe to enter in it, maybe obtain part of

his own to get to get a point to escape to get to like the like the

things spiritually in that what? What purpose? There is this is

my theory of conspiration in this theme that comes

of a book of fantasy I I've told a

one maybe that you did Patrick Ruthfuss wrote Fus the

name of the Viento and then he's written after he's written, after he was trying

that's your other book that's supposed to be able to get to but here we're going to

the point is that I'm going when I'm going to these things that he

he's that he's that he's so into the but it's something is something

it's something he's simply you're in a a story fantastic really in

methodologies of what is the magic chaos and that's me it's made very obscure the point

is that a enemy that's the great enemy of these relato that's the you've

these these books? No, but well I am going to a series

where it's a theory of the magic chaos and

I understand a little with what that series

well well the Tai no I know if it's

part of this mystic or is of other

other other other but simply is an arbor that has a little

that has a a creature and that creature can be all the future viables of

the people but the is absolutely malvado no has a piscka of bondad

and whatever that's there is there a group of people that is

they do this if the tae does a information always will be

in relation to that all what that's after that will destroy something.

Then you say something or something and you do a two three comments and you move

emotionally and you're going to your normal but to be you're contaminated all what you do you

do this areas that those things that said were so because he saw he he's

because he he has picked those buttons he has redidigier to redigier to complete

so so my creencia in this type of entities that not have the vision of the time of life like us, but it's a vision a lot more ample and that probably they're access to,

information occulted, have access to data that we know, know where and what are doing, and I think that's not for the effect immemeterate, but the long-plasor.

It's, it's related to the rest of situations that will be living a little sembrado of something that you will be to end up

affecting much. It's like like a tool of intelligence artificial that is changing

constantly the data and that can't give, no, I see, results different depending

of a digit that you have put on the data. I'm doing the idea. Siento I

think a level spiritual, I've seen, I can say that I've

not done much, that it perhaps that there are energies, more

well, I'll do this analogy. In the emotions, there are emotions that are antagonists. Fin. No, you can't start tranquil and intranquilo at the way. Or you're in peace or not you're in peace, but no can't be able to be in peace. So, no you're not

in peace. So, the tranquillity or a profound sensation of tranquillity and anxiety, not van de the man. They're antagonistic, 100. No, you can't be profoundly tranquil and anxious.

So, one, to keep the other. A lot of times for neuro-transmissory, for how function the body, etc.

At a level energetic or of spirituality, I've seen that also that

also there's a kind of kind of or not how you know what that's

like it's like a water, it's like they're not a way and they're

a reaction and the other is that this type of ser is oscourous what they are

when they can't someone that has a antagonist the other of them,

they've been working a little to work at that

that's about and simply give a other to the

other kind of so how you mentioned that the

entity the Tai. Right that you were talking

to find to a kind of a kind of that could

be related or with something with something you

was described in The serpent devoradoer of Mundus, that in theory for the

Egyptians or for the mythology Egyptian, was the serpent that devoraba in the nights and then

Ra ran about the battle and was the sun in the morning, with the

night and then the day, Ra was was devoured by Apophis, Apophis was expulsable, Ra,

ran about the battle, and in some moment the destruction of the world or the chaos is going to

when Raya no ganar the battle, then the night was devoured all day. So, so it's

how I'm sounding, but then you've been to say, this entity, or Tai has the

faculty to see futures very different scenarios in those that one person if a

person if a person, if can't be a lot of a bit, it can be, like if

were a effect a mariposa, change totally the results, I think

it's a kind of a type of, it's a combination that's a whole these philosophies

or all these theories of all these are in the magic or any focus of the magic, they're

a parallelism with data mythological, with types of creencies, with deities,

with entities of astral, with, there's an incredibly ample of

that I don't know I don't know of this entity, not I'm not there

a vision of an entity that had a fact of but that's a good,

it's a good, it's a good, to be a question, and revisen

Patrick Ruthful very recommended because the the things that

you're that's that in their that me me am to

they're based a something in something that is here.

But well those those That's, yeah, there are people that have said, oh, yeah, if I'm going to learn, and if there are something rare in these books,

like, if, it's like fantasy, it's very good in the book and, fin. But if you start to see, it's like methodologies of doing certain things and so,

eh, let's see a eye and me say. So, you think that between lines you're doing a grimorio

there to do do some churnos? Of course, I think is doing that's doing that, but to me is very most sure,

so, because it's is a is a book finally for adolescents. So, it's,

it's, so it's, it's, it's, I'm a example, the time, I'm

give the impression much of the profile of a demonio, because the profile of demons,

the people, we're in the idea of a very short-plast and in the short-plast the position, imagineate

that the person that's, that has been much power, and you can't with that, what you

you're not you're that you're when they're have done analysis in the

intons familiares all the people when there someone that has this type

of affections the relations families are to destroy and it doesn't

sense a level as like of a analysis direct

direct, no there's a correlation direct between that person with that affection and the man who is he's in

even even know, but his relation is like so it's like something that's like a expand to expand

to a level of energy of spirituality. And it's very simple. The beings, even we think

we're not we're not so much. If we have a state emotional that's very assentued

and we are insentive of it, the decisions those we're taking from there.

Example, me I'm very enoched and I'm not quite, and of a day,

various people are saying, oh, yeah, like you, like you're very aggressive.

And it's because all I'm doing, my state more than you., it's, and, you're, and, and, and, and, and, and, , you're, and affecting the

emotions to the other. Practically you're describing a process of possession,

where the person is actually that's actually like it's personality, completely

polarised even with what regularly would be. And that it's to affect to those

the entorn because in all the interactions when I know when I heard the

is like it's like it's like here it's like it's like a But it's when

when you describe an entity demoniac in what is doing it's something. It's like that's like

for the magic really this duality of angels demonious like the structure Christian

has presented well, well, no exists. So, for other type of

different different philosophic or callions or so or of practices

related with some faith um So, for the practices

pagans, no, I've seen that manifesten a type of entity that is completely

black or completely obscure. But I, but there is that I'm, it's that I'm a

point of view of that. The point of view about I'll say, my

perspective not is defending a religion, is that on what they're on the

the mess, and there is the way, and what you put to the philosophy,

or in what you are, and, for other other side, the actions are the consequences

to short, medium, and the long-to- never would be a good system

of the business, to say, to tell the product that I do you do that I

just I think, and I don't do you do I'm not that those other

are related with other but I say, I've seen,

I've seen, modus operandis repeated in all those modus operantis

to me make much noise because they are quite because they act they're in because the

interchamble that's always are in a question very mundanas because because in

that's that it's a thing that's a change is a stupidness and only occur

in these marcos of creencers it's very rare right right that you

that I'm that I'm that I'm that they're that they're

a change of something that you can get in any

moment you can do you do that they're that's soliciting I'm

that would that idea that in some in a moment

I or someone I'm not I'm not I'm very

sure of where I'm I need I need

to back a little better but there a

theory a hypothesis I know how call it, that really

all these entities or all these deities or creatures of a plan spiritual that can or not do you

really are you are you are you a projection of your you suprem or of your entity suprem or

your entity eterea or your being a set etterio projected in an

universe a little more more more where all the capacities

that you can't can't to get because you're in an emvase

mortal they're they're they're and they don't know if you do you

know it's like where is the line between the fantasy that whatever is I'm

to occur and I tell you I'm and that simply not is not a

list but then then it has been true and what if can't

can't in the plan spiritual and in the plan paranormal exactly

Algarer. But I'm that there things that as a argument initial

if it's an sound impactant. But if we start

a idea a vacuid absolute in what is that

is and there is there there there there

there there there are plantemions like sound but

you you see a the people who get in the planterment to the

execution and they're in points very similar and so this is like this is rare.

I think that that's sort of that inclination or that theory goes a little

with these visions of theories philosophic about the sort of a

individual I don't see if in some point you have

to know this idea or this idea or this is the

universe experimenting to you yourself you is the universe experimenting

to see to see the idea that one is the whole really, the people

that's around is one the air that is one the

the the earth that is one the the stars that

are the things that are the the energy that is that they

are they're they're doing the they're they're energetically

simply is one myself, not more than manifesting its energy

of that's going to the emvas mortal, like this is the embers that we

can't we can manifest us to make a way corporea but we also, it

is also a little encamined to the kind of the brain, we know,

we use, we use, we use, a 10% or 5% something, something, is something.

The Cerebr is, the Cerebrough is designed to expanders so immortal, you have the capacity

to have this expansion of power and the manifestation of power, that's here,

so it's these deities to the that's you're asking you, really are you. For that

you, interchambs whatever thing. And if there, no, represaleas

about something, you're doing a lot that's a thing, it's a very interesting. I think

this is precepts for another episode. in the episode in the video in the time in these things. But,

a bit, no, if we're going to three hours with this show us. So, we're going to

cut out here to get to another episode. And right in Placica Secret, us tell the story that

that's the story that's okay, perfect. But well, then, before to start, Val,

how you're pasted? Oh, super-padre. The fact is that never I imagined

that we to explore to do a little a little a still I'm still.

I'm excited. At least of And two out of the air. Yeah. What I'm so good

to have you. Thank you. Thanks for your heart and your stories. And for favor,

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find in Instagram, which is the red that I'm used more frequently. I'm like Valeria.

.e. . Z. S. S. S.A. And, also,

the zodiacone N-M-X in Instagram and TikTok like the zodiac of negro. There is where there's a little of stories, micro-histories of terror,

having this facet of a person of the character of the zodiac black. Valeria, much thanks. No, man. And for the family nocturna, let's wish a good time and that you have a dulces. Pesadillas. Bye-bye.