HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de Brujas, fantasmas y demonios | EP 196 | Ft. Alex Lazzalde

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

Bienvenidos a este nuevo Duelo de Historias escalofriantes con el buen Alex Lazzalde de @comediaparanormal en @hablemosdeloquenoexisteEl día de hoy te traemos historias aterradoras en este DUELO DE BRUJAS, fantasmas y demonios... escucha historias de nahuales, de sombras espeluznantes  saliendo de ríos desolados , fantasmas que siguen anclados a su vida pasada , conoce  el relato de un doppelganger malevolo , la leyenda del "fundidor" y de alguien que creyendose cazafantasmas terminó cargando con consecuencias paranormales de horror.. así que prepárate para que @hablemosdeloquenoexiste

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to let me we're the day of we're we're a episode

because it's in the good Alex. Alex how you Amid. Much good.

Very. Thank you. Thank you. A good. Alex, for for a person, for the person, that is the first

time that you see, the people who you're doing, you can't talk about you a little bit to you, to do you. Well, actually I'm

currently working in marketing of orientation political, but the grand majority of the people know, particularly for my

work as artista digital, photography and art digital, and very recently and very pretty much people also for the

world of the comedy. Yeah, that's for the media for the word that we're I'm sending a

brother, for me of comedy paranormal. That's. Auret we talking a good rato to do and when you asked about these

histories panormals, me said that even you don't crece in this phenomenon, has had been experiences personal. You can't

talk about these experiences that's been used? Well, I don't, I've been I never been very

credent, I don't know I'm I'm not done, but I have taken to some in the

long of the time, in the time that I'm a question an explanation completely logical.

When all the logical she has failed, when the logical it begins to take a sense. So in that sense, well,

if the categories I go to like, paranormal. So, never has been a grave.

One, maybe it could have been, because it's always always been in my work. As we're

also, I'm in the area, that I'm also, I'm a time there too there's a

time. and, well, things of family, et cetera. It's interesting what you the question that has been with living situations paranormal, but at

the same time, be in this check, I say, well, as well, I don't know I'm saying, well, and not necessarily I'm

somebody, this thing, but I'll do I'm a parenthesis in an area like, of a vacio in

the that not is, but then we're better we're doing the way in the form in that really

live in this type of phenomena. A me me took for the podcast that originally

I think that this type of phenomena that's not not really that was that was a person

exagerately small. Because in the long of the life, I'm in groups

in the churches, in where they were groups and I don't

I'm took that much people had some experience of the

type of that the time. Some are to have to have

experiences to some they took in group but

the great majority not had one one I mean, I think,

no 10 people, a 15, to much, the long of the life, that one of a new a story,

and they're on the and they're on the day of the day of the globe, not that they're

that they're that you that you that you did you, I was very very very similar.

And there are many have made like with ideas in the head. Mexico has

their own legends. We know that's the Yorona, that's some stories of Charrho Negro,

secret to all these questions of the Nahuas, Chenekes, duentes, etc. I think the truth is that all this is

that's all over those were the people, those are those people, because were going

and they're going to get a tradition. But it but result that there

many versions of this in all the world and

repite one and other time. I made this the podcast. The I've made quite,

some people that I say, oh, when you have mentioned that we present us

attention in the stories of here, we're we're just to know that there's similarities

that are there in your country. And there there was three people who were

some some little little socesos that just just

listening the podcast. Okay. Dice a little she was I was listening and that

he, of he was to a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot of the idea of you know,

you know, you know, you know, I'm going to do you going to do do that's going to hear

the podcast because, you feel yeah very bad, incomod, I'm feel like if I'm being

ashechating like and it and it's not a there's no, I'm feel like

when it's when it's when it's that's making all that's things, the

The body, where it's like to lose a place, is sent to in a

cell phone, and no it's not a problem, and they're like, and be

that in front of her, it's a little and they are in some,

those, and it doesn't pay attention. And it is, originally what

is the silhouette of your brother, and he and he and he when you

when you when you got and it and it's or in a second that's a second that

person is more close and now is your brother, it's your father and it's so that's so that's

so you're seeing very assusated because notice that it has been some kind of a mueka some type like a semblante

that never had seen the father like me di-mol and this person still and in a disquido

it has been in front and is she she's being to see all which says all my

rasgos but with a a look that I I'm a really profound, very malabola,

and me he's a point, I'm thinking, I'm in some moment I'm getting and I'm stupid this is a

dream, but I'm not I'm trying on the I'm starting the air, I'm to start the and then I

hear the voice of my glory, glory, abramed the point of my gruny, so it's a little, it's a

to come in a back. I'll I'll get the attention. Yeah, no

is there. And in that my papa and I can't move. And me he said, is that I'm

he's not a lot of a minute, you know, you know, she's kind of really a

impacted because I think that all that it was, you know, it's really, it's a lot of

the area and the area. And it's the stories of the doppel gangers that have been

in some I mean made the impression, like, something, like, something,

something, But, well, one once said this, for a while, Alex, tell me your story.

Fugate, right that precisely you know, you know, not like that I'm a first time

that I'm that I'm never, that I'm still that I'm a part of the years that have been

when I'm when I'm in the faculty, I had at that then the career, I was to

the faculty during the morning and then I was to becario in other faculty during the time

night. I'm at the last 11 of the night, the school was my

routine daily. I've a lot of the university, so it's

almost that all the time to get to get to my house, to your house. Well,

in that then I'm my mother. So, there was an occasion, a night

in the night in the that I had the custom to talk to a time, the

application of Skype, for video calls, because, like the also, I'm,

I'm never, we're not we're not going to talk to sometimes during the night.

So, in one occasion, I came, and I decided that night not connect me to talk to her because I

felt a too much I'm going to do that I'm to do with and I know in what moment exact of the

madugada I'm to feel that there's a presence or that's there's a person

that's so I'm so I'm just so I see that's what was and I know I'm

I'm know that I'm I'm now at these altars the phenomenon of the paralysis of

the soo I'm I know it, but all of that way, like a way, it's

a problem, I'm a lot of my point, I'm going to move, not I'm moving the arms, only could be the

eyes, not could be the eyes, not even the eye, and observe, not was there was not about

that there was a there was a other, but there was a lot of the sensation that something

that something in the end of the the kitchen of the house, the door, like,

a, I'm a, no, a telaea a, a telaea in the the camera, but I

felt that there something. So I observed and I could see that there. But I felt much a presence.

Of this, I'm going to hear that something. So it was a not a non-tenebrosa, no,

of me, like if someone if someone was a really, it's a like when you when you

in the school, no, that you see you with this was like something.

So, so it goes to okay, I'm so I'm not, no, it's

other I see that no there's no no invitation I'm in a evidences. I'm going to get to

get to get to not a past, no five minutes, two minutes, maybe, me do that

this same sensation, I'll open the eyes and I'll be doing the I'm going to move, I'm

still without moving. So I'm to see this presence and I'm a new a risa but now

in the other corner of the other corner, I'm I'm absolutely nothing,

no I'm nothing out of the other also in the apartment. Trap I

myself of me myself of my that I'm trying to and I'm a lot of when I'm starting to force it to start to do that. I'm going to to hear of the car. I was going to bea

outside of the residential is in the that I my mother at that that time. But it was quite

the ballard of a cabra so I so I'm so I'm soying, I'm doing, this is going

to be doing, I'm doing, I'm doing, I'm going to get to the morning next, I'manxco

to come to do, I'm going to get to do this, okay, all for a

window, revice, revice, and I'm obviously, no, there was a car in the

part of the other in my bed, I'm okay, I'm I was soigned. When I

back, I'm going to my mother, preparing the and all the one of the kitchen,

he was going to be to get to get to get to what? So, she me says, no, yeah,

not you know, not you were so, they're so, they're so, I'm,

and I'm talking about, for the Skype, and I, who, who, we're, we're talking to

my mother, that she went to, my madugugated, he went to my bed, and he said,

and I He heard that I was talking with someone in my but he was that was the voice of a woman. She assumed that was my friend with her

she said, no, I'm doing to say, no, I don't, I'm connected with anybody, I don't, I'm going to talk to hear, yeah,

no, no, we said, no, because? He said, no, well, it's a situation so, maybe strange,

but my mother, and I was, but I'm sure, I'm, he said, no, it was something,

so it's, only, you know, three of the morning and they are here, they're still at least

disveling. That was the first that I occurred something that's to the time not even to the fact that we've done to find out

when I'm put in the people who bring in here stories, because of the really, not the 100%

of the cases, but it's like the certain hos and the hands of the

design were making that the stories that I'm that I'm that there are

in the different in all the stories that were there one that was

a attention. One a chica that she, she, she was, she was doing the

podcast. He's in a cellion in your house, he's listening the podcast,

and the repent, he's a lot, he's, he's, he's, he's,

he was, he's was in the second place, and the second and the

two, two and a morning, and where he's, he's got a lot of and he's

got to the same, and he's didn't know she, she'd get a dormita and

she has a very she's a she's she's that's in the second to be she's in the

seconded in the seconded in the same thing that's going to and he he's got to get a dormer.

So, then it's so it's like a little loop. Okay. In the

the in the that's he's now is a second in the

second in the world she's but there is a great that is something

that's kind of a person of a manio no it's not he

does the sensation that's the thing is the thing the thing you take care of a bit of a bit of

a little bit of a girl. That's a grunydo that's to get to get a little bit of

a new and then she's still still in a dream and has a new and he's the problem

is that still using the grunied and it he's got from the soundh that's

it's the podcast it's something that's something that's something that's something that's

something that audio, the audio, I'll get a back and he's got the bruny

where they put in the other other way, they're they're they're all, they're

they're put in a attack to get a panic and the sound to get to

get to make, and it and it gets to in the world real. and in the

world in the the head, he's the sound of the

but not in the the voice, it's a kind of that's kind of he's

more, I'm manches, that fero And he's And it's been five or ten minutes since that

had revised the hour. It's not much sense because it was a very long what she

perceived for the only five minutes but at all the final she'll do it and he says yeah

yeah it's I have to get to get to get to she's he's going

to do you he's still he's he's he's he's he's there a

little little little and he comes to hear outside of the

house a the same gruegid that I had had been in the dream. This chick

starts to a fear of the window and see that in the patio that's not there's just over

the house through the house on there's a there's a little of him and the

side of it's a lot of a fear terrible and he's to get to get to the second

piece and he's and the husband is done just where he was doing

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and the other they're not, you, and they're, yeah with the water more calm to them as they're in when they're

they're doing that the same day, all they're doing a other, having a reunion there.

Nobody had had left anyone to the house. And that that's that they they've been

repeated and it's repeat and it's repeated and it's repitue but it's only the light of the

things, they're seeing somebs of a person that wastes they'd have the platos because they'd have been a

time of reunion, nobody he'd to be to get to get to get to

get to get to when someone went to the door, the

light of the instant and it was like that there. So,

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was because they're that they had a past a too

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been told here. It's very interesting. That's a loco, right? That's what, what? What, Alex, what other

story have occurred to you or to know, to know, many, I've been occurred various, but the, the

that I'm going to continue to try to to hila, as the rhythm of stories, is one that

that's a thing that's a woman of a un-gidal precisely to be a Dinares.

I, I, I can't I don't go-in-vibed much with my abuela, especially because when I nace, my abelos had been to the US to prove a suites

and very sporadically they were to then I'm going to live with her. I was a person a pretty very much after this

and precisely and, starting in this project of the comedy paranormal, then at me, they have to have to start to scabarled.

So, the first the recourse was the family, that you, my parents, never has a little

to my uncles, to my tios, to do you, and my father, and my dad me said,

yeah, a little a little bit a little but never to talk about to talk about to the

other people, he said, and he never said, and never to talk about about the thing.

Well, we're a pre-adolescent, a about a about this, I'm not about this,

like the years, like the years of the new year, she, she, with her family,

in this, you'd would be very bad with the number Yeah. So, then they were in this community, no?

My vis-a-vuelo, I think, he was dedicated to camp. So, in one night, my abuela is a day-of-a-lawed, because it's like, the classic animals that are in the rancho

were very aborotated. But, no, decide not, not, not, not say, well, what I'm going to

do I'm going to do. So, then says, well, my, my, my, my abel no,

then when my my father regrece, then, then, then, so, so,

in the morning, well, yeah, yeah, at the time the time of my old of my old to go to get to the

millyne, to make the mal for the and the other things of the work, no, of what were

the roles of the time. So, then it was going to be to be a night, that would

be like at the four or five of the morning to start to be a routine,

she top a woman, she never had never seen. So, those communities are basically

people are people who is the, of who who is, but that that's a she was she

never had been she was she was a a little bit of a little and he was a person

very amable so only like this this person and say that's that's a good that good a

good good a great person so then the old my olderer

to me she could try yeah like like a like a like a cubeta

also like you could you could you could you could help to

do to make to I'm I'm okay you

you can you because I'd try a pyrna lastimada, well, I'd try the knee the lastime.

So my abo'u'll like that, oh, no, no, I know what I'm a little

to do it, and they're to make a talk to make a about the talk of the and they say, no,

well, then, well, it's a good to the help to get to to get to

a, not you're going to be a, okay. So my then my old is

going to start to his labors of the day, he wants, he wants to

of, oh, is that at night I heard of there was much agravia not far as the other with the

other than I'm a little really to make a really mollest because someone had had been not of the

backs. But not they had been made a or like if someone had been a lot of

a animal like a little even like he had had come he had been made

he's a I've had been a many coyote or many coyotes but not there were

have not even not even the boy or the rancho. So they're not quite we're going to

be a lot to be able to see what in that the morning my mother starts with the same routine

and he's up to the same and it and it's to put to the same but now

not that it has a different the the she's not not really but

also not that the the the the the end of the he had

been a bit like it had had had to but in this second day, the

door or the moretone yeah, or the moretone, he had advanced at the long of the year, so, of a day

for other, it grew a lot, he grew up that they had, what I'm, what I'm, the same

dynamic, he commented, that's, he could help, because he was a really,

and so, okay, go, then, then he's, to help, to help, to the

person, and eventually, the woman is a beginning, yeah, like, a little

and, I'm a or like I told my my -a-oh-he-law, that the woman that's

tose. And so it's a lot of the way, and it's something, my

abuela still like in the suhue, like if not the thing, but she can't

see the re-o-o- that the she was, like the she, like, he, he's,

then, then, then, he's, no, he wants, he, he's,

no, no, right, they're, right, they're, you're, you're

so, my my wala and he got his but if you

want to put a attention to the thing to what he's a little to do it

and it's a little a ball of a ball of a lot of a lot of so that

she says, who know, she knows she she comes to come to come

to the people and when the moly sometimes they're not

to be to the part to the house to the rancho, yeah when

there's there's there's there Resulta that everyone's had been

a little bit in this place. Nobody knew what he said, no,

I think he got you in a sanja or something but my old was so he he was

curious, that was also like was also that were too cuted of something

of a lot of so I know so I'm so so I'm

so but what I know I said that did you this is that is that the

little he was like he had had of the caballera of the mollera. I think

I would know the boy to say nothing because I don't say what I'm going to be going to hear of course

also hear of also hear of my abuel my ex-aul he's all to go to do nothing, that says no

I found a coyote and there the people is to get a with a fuller in but he says no no no

observe they not they're they're very altered only only the they're not so and no

see nothing back. Pass to that the third day, will be to

do that my old old my wife and I'm doing that maybe to get to get to

get a person but it's so it's okay, we're to do you get to

the then you know, she doesn't but what is a perr. I'm I don't know I didn't

tell my father me told this story, but if I was a little bit more to the

other people. I mean he was a little little bit more little he was the little bit of

chihuahua when they were not they're not the chihuahua but it said that when he was

with a much fear because because it was probably practically a little practically a

little bit the perro so the person was he was almost nothing more. I said, no, he's

nothing, no he gruey, no, he was a car-in-as- and the per rube exactly of his patas

like if had made machucated all the pat. So, he's, no, I'm trying

to distract me, doing my activities, terminate to do you to get to the people, and then

again, and then he's not, the other he says, now what what's, when it

comes, see a woman in the place in the plaza was a something

he had passed no he had absolutely nothing nothing like in the

body, like if it's like it had destroyed completely the person but nobody knew the

she said what did you did you no nobody did not nobody and he's

not know not we know it was obviously not a time that all the that all

all the that all all another she was nobody they were she only

never was knew really what was what was what happened, and what he had passed the little

never had never had a little bit of after the after the animals in the night also all the

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There are many that are just only in the fiction and in the into the story and

in the family. But, however, there are people who have done, that has

occurred to some type of attack of this type. mention as Brujas

Naguales and it has been a little with this relato that I'm that he

really a really with much a great a infancy Imelda had a

family that for her was a not spectacular but it was a

family very unied and very beautiful her and

they're very good relationship all that hemeld had

around the nine his her was her more than

two years and a half. She remember that when she had a nine years, the things in

her house changed were very rapid. Her father to be a person a

person a person a literally, like a really like a real she was transformed

in a subject horrible, desagradable burrach fumad and he started

to develop many vios desquido the time he

He, he started much time out of the house, and he didn't

nobody, and to his children, he was like like so he

was this, this, this one one and she and she

she she was the moment that did the time.

A day that was a time, a time, his mom

got to barred the porch or the garden

and when is doing the zone, grita and he says to

a carcashada to his husband and he's Joaquin, Joaquin, look, you know,

you know, you're a lot of a man, so the guy says, the type of

you know, well, then, then. Resulta that the woman was a

type of fetiche. They're some, um, that apart had a kind of

like a red, that formable a kind of monito, and he had the

photo of all a little rojo and had a part of there and a pair of a few ofas. She had to do much a risa and this man, he he went to go and he went to go to the

basura. He said, that day, because I saw all the window, that day, was the final of my family. That same day, my papa, he said that he was a little elharged, my mom was he said that yeah, that he had to be that in the morning, that no important, that was a d'nobreya, and he was

He was a little-to-do. The day the next mal-encaraed, like kind of kind of un-humored,

it was that something he'd do you. After that all of the all of that was

a little a day he was a day he was a day the next you know,

no, you know, to get a cigar, after cigar, and all we're,

we're in the stuff of you're in what chinked you're that's you're

that you. other person pass in the time and he he starts about a very he's

me entienta and who is Veronica of who you're talking never nobody nobody nobody

one or the one or the and a bad my papa out of the night no

no way no no no he never he never two three times of divorce

what I did understand that my father was that I had runnando

but I never That day that went, to go ahead, they were things very rare in the

house. All the plants that we were in the same day, all the plant that we'd never had

a plant that we had not there were fettito in the house, we'd we're

to hear passos in the conversations. Never we'd to know we'd be

to say to the new and the I'm a little bit but they're passos, are

people coming into in my house. And in front of my

house, I'm a little little in the little up

to be in the little and then the lechusa and then was a little to see I

was going to be my brother, if I would be my mom, I'm

started something to do a kind of a crasniko kent

that that makes to do during many days after my

mother is very alterated, is passing for what of my papa, that no know where is exactly,

and what is what what's the doing, and what was what he was doing that doing what he was doing the house,

one and there and my mother's a that's a that's a woman, try to get to

a little and he could do you do you do you're a job, I'm sure and for

that's he's a little bit when a person, and he's a little a

little bit a person, and then he's posa that thing when he is doing the

limpia. And when the baby, he says, he's the he's going to the work.

My mom not is a client of these things. My mom never was a person

that these were relevant. But he said, well, tell me what

do. He gave a little a or a or a little

I don't I remember what things and he he said and he start to

start to start cruces with the ram and he

he put into the ram. He says that when He goes to The lechusa

Like if she had been Congelated She desplomed And they're If she Stubbering a person

For the ram Because she Was it Ableble in a ram Crugia and He was Rebbeah

And it's And socessively Salienerer The Becino Dueue Dwee To see what Was it was

What was going to What was That time? After that After that Little To Bellow Never'clock

That ever We've been and he said, my mom too, but my papa never never regressed to the bar. As well,

the folklore of the brus and of the marres, that ultimately also are more to the day.

Yeah, is true, it's put it very a moda. definitive is that I think the

folklore Mexican is full of our creencers, our customs are all to this

things. I'll say, I, I'm the really, I'm that all

this, was, were more but every every time I top with people that say, this is a

story that's a story that's a story that was a story that was a story that's a story that me.

In many things, are there's things like situations that can be, simply we're seeing two things

that not necessarily are in the man, but existent things like this type that are many factors

that are that are many of things. A bit of you know, I mean, you comment you

about the things that we've we've done we've got to we're As I mentioned, right,

before I did start the podcast, I worked in the radio here in Monterey has a few years.

In one a occasion, I was a head of production of a station of radio of here to and a

time, and on a occasion me took a night in the station and the station, we're doing

a transmission that we had a line of a series of baseball. So, I took to

get me. In that that time, the station was found for the area of Cumbres in

an building that's a place the first plant. The first plant is a second plant was

the station of radio and the third plant was a department a lot of a family. So, in that occasion

me to get to time, I'm going to get to the station. I'm going to get to the

airport to Cumbres is a tram a lot. So, as normally I'm going I,

I'm not I'm not I'm to get to get at the four of the

morning and in that then I'm at 12, I'm going to my house, I'm going to my house, I'm

going to be the time. The station was a three turns, the operators of radio. They'd enter back at

six, they'd be the last time, it was at the time, it's the time to the night. So, the

night to six the morning was a second. The station, no, there was any vigilant.

So, to me it was so easy, as any station of radio, never is in silence. Of course, it's a custom to have the custom to have the

appartats of radio reales to monitorer how is listening to the air really the transmission. So,

always is still is some of the stations, or, well, one of the frequencies

is it's still in the officeina. So, as I'm going to do not only two hours

here, I'm going to do this So, so I occurred to to pay all the monitors and

to get the station completely in silence. I said, I'm going to go to get to the morning,

if not I'm going to make to a broncotta, but we're to have to get to the transmission, and that's

a lot, and that's not to be listening, I don't not, we're to have to have to be

going to not, we're going to let's make sure, I remember that I'm a carmour

that I've had done, and I'm in the sion of the lobby. I'm trying to to get me dormied in the room in the

room that I improvised more auster possible and at a night of the night I'm to hear that

I'm going to a lot of a lot of a lot of that I'm so that I'm that's much that I'm

so I'm no me it's not that rare I know I'm a family with a

little a man in the plant of then I so I'm that's what I

would have better have better I've left the radio preended. But I said, well, I imagine

that right he will be a to make sure to do you call, or right to get a lot. Dural much

time that year and I was there. I was, I said, I'm hours that I'm hours that I

did not, so you're going to go ahead. So, then I'm forced to try to

to try to to get dormido. And in a moment, when I start now to gain

the swing that I start, like I'm, like I'm like, I'm maintains

in a lebe parpadeo, I could say that was a second or two seconds. It was the

I'll start to do the purpose to let us to be what I'm that's just that I'm

that's up to be a baby in the station. I was I was sitting on the

lobby, I'm looking to the and I'm the silhou the silhouette of

a baby sentado but it was a so that's not even it's not not quite was like

a quite a such a I said, I'm seeing things. I'll go to be able to the eyes,

but no there's a yeah, I'm going to get to be able to do you know. We're going to let's force us.

So, I'm forced to get me dormied, some hours. I think I have been had been a

hour, or an hour and a half a little and a time. Just to at the

last six of the morning, I'm I'm that's actually the door

of the station and was one of the first operators of the morning.

I'm I'm I'm going to I'm very really a little because if I'm going to get a question and me

say, what's the thing? He said, all right. And he said, all right. And said,

you said, I'm not, no, no, no, there's no, no, there's no, there's being a

problem, so, so they're not, yeah, we're again, you know, the transmission was perfected, no,

there's a problem. So, yeah, so, how it's, oh, I'm so, I'm so, I'm sorry,

I'm sorry, He says, is that that's a sillon is very incommod and I'm thinking that's

not quite for the time. I'm in it's a time of the family of the

right. No, no, he was to die in the night. And I

batted much to do that and that he's a little rarro and me

and he said, what the little the family of the first plant. Me

said, no, he's he's not a never nobody. They're

to come to and I cry, how? And me, I don't know if, I don't know, it was a

a couple of, it was a man, he said, but if me says, no see if you remember that the

woman was about the I'm not going to see, I'm a little bit of and a little and a little the woman

has been a baby. And at that that's, he affected to her and they're to go to

they're not to run, they're to live to to where they were originally. So I did,

no, me's starr I'm trying to play the drama or something And the classic,

here, it's a little a little to come up in the other apartment, and I'm sure, I'm sure,

he's all the letterer of that renta, no, not there was not about any in this apartment. I don't know

what I did that so much it so much it so much that's that they're going to

live there. So, I always assume I'm living there. Yeah, when I know this,

to the morning the next to pass to all that situation, I mean, then then

what was what I heard? So, the day of the did you of what you

I don't I'm the more a more idea. I'm a really quite that for me

it's clearly the yant of a baby. Tant to so I'm what the thing is the

when you get the when you get to a lot of a desperation a baby a baby

little a or I am a maybe months, maybe some of

so I do you do so so so that's that the moment

that the first I don't not me it appeared strange, that was a

situation out of the normal for the context that I had a baby that was

a little to the plant of the right. When I was, the plant of the

there was then what I was what I was perfect. And I said that

not, I know, something that was something that was in the transmission of radio

to the air at those hours of the madruada and because it was

I'm so I was when I recorded this kind of a little flashazzo of having seen a baby. I mean

it was like it was a perfection, no, me said, I was like if you had seen a

a new new year even of a baby sentado by a millisecond, that's the thing I'm saying, I'm

still, I'm still, I'm just never, we're never knew that we've never knew that it

was, at the station, not for that situation, but never me volvio, and it was what we're curious. Something of what we've talked about in a podcast

of Comedia Paranormal is precisely like of these similarities, that are coming to have sense in many stories. One of them is that normally these type of situations occur in places that have been in much time, and a person that are already advanced to age. The classic

of that, is that here, this place, is that this place. In the years that I worked I in the station, never heard of anybody to tell of a situation. they were not only to those that were in turn of nocturns

some of the other one of the question that's like you know you know, you know, you've never has been

a lot of me one way, or me the balador me told. Here never had passed. And almost the people who

was a person who we're saying in paranormal if a person to say, to happen to happen

this type of situations for some reason. But no. They said no, to nobody never has

never seen nothing to have never seen nothing. And me moved

a So, yeah, never had occurred nothing. So, so it was like, what was,

what was really what what was what I'm so I'm and I'm even even a dream

an year a particular like, and I know, with a child of a baby,

knowing I that there's baby right, that's a little, I know, I know, I know

because I'd so, so, then, then, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, Duda, in the... Yeah, that you've been in the occasion, you've been in this station of radio working, you know, you know, the effector that's sound? Ah, how not? The sycophonies?

Well, I mean, I referred to, that last the baby, when you did it, in that moment of you, was it was a second or was it? It was still that

was the third place. No, it was still still at the part of the right. It's that all the time, it's like a

time you're just a time that's a time that's a time. So, no, not it was a really

a word or that it was Like the story that I that's the story that was the the risa that I heard of the

house, like if were a person. That's the time. This work in radio was my first after that I graduated of the

career and me passed to almost at the five years to have worked there. In that Inter,

I never never had passed nothing. But it was a sound a particular.

I mean, and apart the stations, so in cabinas, much of the

many of the conversations are insonorized. It's correct. So I'm... I'm... I'm quite concerned. No,

not it was a non-o-sodernorized. For that I think it was possible that's been a sound of the plant of the above.

But, although it's curious, normally the sound of the sound of me, but... if it was a little

flashas of a little bit of a little bit, the son-in-as-as- the sound-as- but not been from this object.

It was still I'm still of the part of the other so I don't I don't I'm going to

I'm going to the match of what what was really what happened. In the first relato, the risa

that's what you're what you're they were? They were of a man, of a man,

of a man? Okay, it was a a risa a risa or a really, it was a

really a really a almost like like the classic risa that they put to a

psal with the guazone? Mas or something something even I would

even I would even I would describe it as a like a reason like not a natural, so not a

very forced to that's a really forced to that's that's not a good but it was the voice of that's

so if it's so I was so it's that it's not me made sure that the morning of the first of a

man that I think I was thinking that I think it's that what she was the voice of a woman and not used to

I was talking a conversation no me could say they're talking to tell the time, but he said, I'm going to

talk about with a woman. You see a presence that that's in a corner. That presence

you did in some moment the sensation like the same thing? It's something is something is a little. Fidate,

what was a question. No, no, I had thought to have a feeling that that would be

something that would be able to be able to know that. So, we're saying, here no

there's here no there. there, but I'm this feeling that really

really really really, I mean, well, a little, imagine the the time of a a little, so, not something

very great, but if I could could get to my hands, or I would could carry it. So, that's 60 centimeters. One to you know,

60 centimeters, or so, maybe a co-in, no, I see. But, but I'm just me had this

sensation that had like that I'm, and more or more, more, also, also, like,

for the ague of the reason, I, but it was, it was, like, it was a, it was a

under, that would be, because the reason from the the kind of

like if it was like if it was something like it was a thing that there's

a little there's a person in the United that's more or four

five years he started a think it's a book a book, um,

and about the things that people see the people who began to talk about

people and let's say describe me a little and this type is a different

is a different. There are 16 things that that's repeated one and other times in

different people to the long of the United. One of those is a brauca. The witch is a good.

The bruja, and she can't some people that's just being to be doing the time. It's not

in the corners. It's very high and horrovado. Those who do you can be. And others, if they get

to get dormid and they're in the reason, in the pecha, and they're like a subject and

is like a little pelon with the roste form and is very, very very

delgado. So, it would be in the description that's to be

at the end of the end of the type of the kind of that would be that

could be to get to that that thing. It's very interesting the

data that you about about the about the rissita and that your mom

heard the voice of the voice of that that's also also

also there many many there are much the point of

a thing very loco in all this. Okay. Here here came the good

Oscar Garvan that he send him no. No, I know no.

I don't know in person but I'm not the person. But I'm also that other podcasts with

people who is very known. Tipas. Tipaso. And Oscar me was a

story in that he in those departments and in those departments yeah

I had time time like asechando someone. A day there are

some and they they say they're they say, many times that

they're many times that they're that's you're going to see that's over the door to the

door of the door's for the help us we're not, so they're so that's

that's that's come to come with me because you're in the pium I know

and he says and we're we're both for the second piece the Oscar

in the redato he said that I'm he's that I'm but he he's

he's going with a lot to the part of the right of the and when they're in room to the sotea

and the companyer of says if I'm doing it's in the sotene to get to they're going to

get to get to they're on the they're all they're all there and there

there's there's so they they're the side the police to be and he says

that's the side too you there's there's there's there's parted

and the other he says no there no there's when they they're going to be

the police is to know what he's he's a minute of you're in one way meter or two

meters or two meters was there not you know so we're so we're so we're

and there and there many episodes or many people who have had been a

thing that you're you're doing is different if you you're you're on your

different in your level of percece what you what you see what you

are like what you are this who can know that

that's that me you've been to be you're living this situation

and that you're in an external percibo something something. Yeah, yeah,

you know, it's very interesting. Okay, yeah. What are? What's, what?

The other radio, the radio, it's very interesting. I've been, I have heard that in

certain stations of radio, occur in certain things, it's not like the

stations of radio are inbrod because it would be a thing, but,

but, example, in the teleisa of the Monterey and I think in a certain house of

multimedia and there other edificio that they're like some bookets and in those bibliotecas normally

get on occur to things medias interesting, movements of the things

extraions extranais effects electromagnetic related to the light that they're in

places like in bruchado but what other stories have you have been

personal well Alex a level personal, there's one that me and a person that

was with me. Fiatty, the coincidence. Just when I'm going to work on the radio, this, I

went to do the radio in 2015. In Halloween of that year, June 301 of October, I'm a

classic festival of Halloween, of an friend, it was a party of disfrasas,

I'm going, I was disguised to be a person. A man, a child,

I don't he was a little I know this chica. And, well, I thought that they were, like, out of something, and my

friend said, no, it's nothing to be, only is a friend. I said, I, well, I started to talk to her. Me seemed I was interested in the chick. Sentil I was, I went into and I said, I'd say, I'd like to go ahead, go ahead, to take a little. And me says, if,

but tomorrow, no, I'd could, I think it was a, I think it was, and the memory, no, I said, tomorrow, Saturday, no could, the day, the day. Yeah, Domino, 2 of November.

So I'm okay, yeah, for me, no, there's a problem. For the

same I'm like I'm like I'm like I'm on the way of the death of course not some

that's that for me move on something. So, for me was a a

one day a domino whatever. So, so we we're that day in the day

on the day in the day I'm got to say, she had been she was

a producer, well in that she was a producer of then it He says, oh, me

and says, you know, I'm going to go to go to the hour that we've accorded. I'm to have to have a

production that we have to be in the theater of the city of the city. I'm going to go to be two hours

after. I'm going to go, okay, no, there's a question. It was like the first thing.

I don't know to be so I'm so I'm I'm going to say, oh, you know, you know,

you know, I'm a production that I'm in the theater of a here of a of a university that

is a Westecke then I'm okay, me says, I'm going to go to get to get to

see if you're not going to do you know no, no it's a matter so we're we're saying

we're we're not problem or at least for me that no implicable a time

so he I don't know no pass a I'm you're to you're

to come to work because they're not quite commones that they're that they're being used

I'm I'm sure I'm I just, I think, oh, well, I'm going to do this to my favor.

I said, she's going to get to be a night. So, I'm a not we can't go to

go to get a restaurant or something, I'm going to get a little picnic with a little bit of a little bit of

the carola of the coach. And when he'll go to work a or something, I improvised to do you

do that's that was my plan. She's actually, yeah, it's already too,

wow, yeah, I think you I'm trying to work that I'm trying to at the two of the morning. So,

so I said, me you said, I said, sure, because one is a caballero. But he's, wow, no, well,

it's a bit. Yeah, I'm a idea that I'm, I'm trying to, oh, yeah, I've got a other than I

don't know, we're gonna we're gonna then we're, so I'm gonna to get to the more sprito in

a zone, that I'm not going to go to so I'm gonna get to the at the time of

but I'm in a car't, that I remember At the side of that tienda there was a land

completely baldied about this avenue so this avenue so I'm going to be to get to get to be

a few some of some of the water or something and then to go to the caruela of the

coche and yeah well the plattica is the important so then we

start every person I was I was being the circulation

of the the coaches she was the back to

the center of the avenue and in that

we we were talking, I'm saying, I feel that a car comes to a little bit of the car, I'm rebass the part of

where we're the same to be a sense of the right. I'm just right. I'm just there's just

doing the back to the car. No, I'm not that she was observing to that

side, the lot I'm noto that's to get to very, but very anxiously. And,

so I see, he he was that I'm pretty, I'm a better. I'm the

time in that it I said, I gole, some some friends with tennis or something. I said, here, we're going to get a few.

So, then I said, yeah, the camera me, and I said, what happened? And he said, and say, and say,

voice, and I'm saying, to make a sound, to make a thing, so like, ah, the virgin,

me, I'm going, but no was the car, but no there was a car, the case,

was completely solo, and just where I had I parkeded the car, and where I was

the stationment, it was a barra that divided a the tinder and the land of the bar. And just on the

banquette of that barra, there was a classic poste of the those who are like the kind of,

so I'm that I've seen, that's that's justo. Me, and they're no, look in the poste

to the light, back. I'll see the instructions, I'm looking to the

back, and I'm going to get observed trying to use the vision, because it was a night,

but it was a poste of all, it was was it that piece. I mean, I'm a

little figure, more or or less, like, of a 40, centimeters, like occulting

behind the poste. And I said, what I'm what I'm so, what is this? So, then

I was a little like, like a man, a newke, tomand the poste

and assomandos to us to us as trying to to be to be to be

to us to be so, so, so, so, that,

that not that I I'm not sure what I'm observing. I'm not sure what I'm observing. I'm going to say rapidly with her and she was very, but very, a little. So I go, I'll go.

And where I'll in a movement brusco, I just see where this figure is going to goreying, to the terrain valdio. It's been a meter of difference

between the poste and the barda, where I was I've seen very well, and that's so I think is one of those things that never can't to not forget,

over something that I'm a little a little a little a little 20,

40 centimeters, no he was not used and he was a new a new year like a animal.

But not an animal that I would have ever ever in the life. I was he was

a parted to be the whole completely pelud had a

head a very, very, very very little, the the

back and the the It was like if the quijada and the dorso were uned or soldados of some way and he had a rostro. So, all that when he'd, I'd, it was like if I was

looking a titere and I said, what we said, we said, no, let me say, no, let's. No, well, then, dich, we, we're trepoms with all the food in the cajuela. So I'm trepa to the coach, and I'm revoir and I'm arrake. Then she said, you know,

you said, you were a dwind. And I said, no, I don't know what I But I'm very conscious of that we've seen something I'm going to

even at one even a little even a little maybe was a animal but I don't never have seen an animal so you know

I was a well it was a a muck even a chango because no had a collar so I don't remember no

had like a collar of some animal it was more more than a more than I'm so I'm I've seen what

I've seen but if I was I'm very altered in the sense of what was. No, what could

pass? More than what was in, what thing was she was like if he had seen,

I'm going, and I go and I go and we're going to do it. We're like that's like that

final, but at final, never five years after, just I, I, you having a parent

different, to my partner in turn, he's a road trip to real of 14 in San Luis

Potosy. So, So we went, yeah, for that time, as I had already had been to work on the radio, had come back. I was a job as a photographer. So I worked for an agency of voyages and,

as a photographer, and I was very segued to the people of the Riald. 14, because it's like a destination in the time in October, when are the fests

patronals, winter, etc. So, for me, it was like, if it's a real of Cotorce, is like to get to come to

so, no, it's not to me nothing to that time. But she wanted, but she said, okay,

we, as well, I had the contact, yeah, I had all the so it's

no problem, we're in a real to get to yeah, we're when we're to get to

all the people, and I'm there's at the thing, for that there's

there was a attraction new that I never had never had had a

and there was a group in the where you you get a

time to be the last night to the ones it was like it

was a tour paranormal. So, they'd have a tour for the zones cargated of the people, and then they'd all the, the, the recorried, it was just in the Panteon

of Real of 14. And they were telling the legends, the course of the folklore and I never had heard of this service.

That was the first time. And then she, she's, oh, we're going to know come, we're going to do

the experience. I'm, I did I, I want to I'm going to get the world, because, I was difficult

to come in here, of night, it's horrible, I mean, someone,

I'm going to have a lot of a lot of but I'm going to do you do it,

we're doing this trip, we're doing the talk about the legends

classics of Real 14 we get to the Panteon things

are feeling a little less human these days aren't they but

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And if someone never has taken the opportunity to visit Real Decorce, is a little bit of a lot. But for me, but for me, it's always a very curious, the panteon. That was the first time that I was the night. Because it's of these pantheons antiques, antivus in those where really no

there's no there's no way there's like they're like they're like they're a rass of

the soil and only a mountainita of the and there there's people there's a time of the

colony. So, also the church has got many pastisos osarios and

other things that I know that I'm that's the first time that I'm never to

go out of the time and I tropeasers me with something that the only that was

the guide. So, yeah when we saw that my pariah was fascinated with the stories, I was with a face of,

I'm going to go to get to here. But in that the guy comes to a story about a

series that were there. And he to describe exactly the same the same the same

the same other than I said, I'm sorry, you know, I'm going to talk a little more of these

these, of these entities. And me say, oh, so they're called alushes. Diss, are like a

species of duend, is very delque of the folklore, so, the region, well, in the region, most of the

area, and for the areas of the south, here in the north, they're not, they're not, they're not,

they're not, it's very rare, that, you know, says, but not they're sometimes, they're just,

sometimes, they're just sometimes, but they're when you one, because it really something

something, it's because, really, never in person, I'm going to see the other girl

that's the other chick that's that I'm not, because I'm because I'm not,

he's to describe, I'm going to get to be really a so I'm not like, I'm not

like you see a little about it to talk about that he said, wow, even it like I'm

like you see, see, so you're so, and they're they're so, and so

there's that's where he was where me did that trip of okay well, he just he

he put a number to this this chick and I observe some

years before. No, we've done to have interaction, obviously. Never we're

nothing. And he said, no, that's, that's not. It's

not a thing about things bad as if you do you do this bad.

But there would be no problem. And but I still

thinking in that's really really was this what I really,

what I see a kind of a thing of something

that I would put to a I also, for many years, when I told this story, I'd refer to,

ah, once I saw a one of a dweener, but it was just like a little I'm not, no, no, no, no, no, I'm going to be this person with me and we

would have been, the two, seen the same, I, I would, I would have done much of what I did, I,

was a manapach, or was another animal, but yeah, when we didn't, oh, yeah, it was, we were,

we, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, that it was been a

luche or no but was what we took presential to the two on the night of two

of November figgate that the thing of duendes is one of the things that

me in the personal me generate many problems. Okay. With the the name

of duendes a sometimes are talking of entities very different.

The description that you have to have to look is one of

the descriptions that I've heard of the Alush in

Tierra Maya I I flateke with some people that were very metied in this

time and they say that the legend came that the Lush was created by the man. The man

he puttow his own some kind of chisor ritual and there's there's there.

There's other things where the where they're that are before the man and that they're

they're they're they're in other stories the other stories the um

okay that's that's the Lush but when we're wendez, there are other versions that also know in other zones

like Chanekes. Ah, okay, I see I've heard of. In those chankees, there are many descriptions. From the, the one can't even, about them, it's a lot of these elphos that they are they saying that they're active to the wendezito, that

type of things, and others that are they're more than, like the gnomos, these of pelons, these of peas, and so, but there's a version, that's the

most aterrador that I've I've heard and that they're saying that's or alushes or cheneques

or doentes. In certain carretters of the south of the country, many people who

manage transports like trailers have prohibited between them to the madrugated

for certain places because they say they're they're not they're something

similar an animal are are not you just that's only that's

the and no they're in the problem is that you topas at the four of the

morning, and then you get to be in the way of the and if he gets to pass the

carmion, it appears a little of the carmion or is there's there have

many people that have many people, and there have been people who they're that they're

that's they're they're being to the people, and they're they're they're doing,

because they're talking to the windows. So, I'm going to ask to

see really the people who were in the carlons have been used this. And the quantity of

stories that came to get where I lived a so it's tremendous. The point is that when

you're a lush, normally the history, are very rare those cases, the history

in the that the thing that normally, where the language is like that the thing,

maybe that I'm kind of it, like it's like it's like to go and

it's, and in other no she did not to make a construction they'd beckon they're gonna run a a lot of people, they're like if they

robbering something. It's like if internally the people are like damaged after after having

that and the people that have been told stories that have lived

that they're that after to do do you not not not

a life because they're normally invaded and they

all these we know we do there there

there there there there in those that I mentioned I

that the that they they're that they they're

in all the all the things mystics about the brujeria

or persons that are with spirits a me generated a much problem to say, well,

and why a thing a a badro to have a little to you're going to have a

sort of the form aesthetic but what he is a dwee so,

for one a we're we're we're we're that we're

that the people that's that they're that they're they're

they're they're they're being they're It's a type of elf. These Elf, even in Islandia,

have zones that are restricted for them, and are, of each, as far as by the government, and it has to give permission to

the Elfos and to the landes to be able to build in certain. So it's something that

is a very important. But, why an object of barro inanimed will, to be able to

have to have been able to do you, that's very strange. And then I've have you heard stories where

people who are in retos and they're not they're trying to any kind of other than

but a spirit very very obscure is what they put in that they're that they're doing that

you're that you think you're trying that's trying to with the dweend

that's being you're trying more with what could be a

little a kind of a kind of a demonio. So, the

so the thing of a question of a Alex. What more stories we're trying

for there, my brother? I'm just you know I'm put to think a pre, I'm just

he said that there's that I'm told him my abuel who was a fundiora Ah, for

favor. This is my abel my abelor my abelor was a old, yes,

of a little of a place, yeah, but when he was when he was

a young he was to work to work to work at the Montereyry in the

70s was it was it was not person, it was of much

importance. But what not you talk about is that, for example, my my abuel,

well, he obviously no didn't do you know, but it was a person,

people, people, people, people, people, people, they were that my

old was, that my thing, it had a time to get very much to the morning to

the door to do find you're doing, they're going to, so they're like,

Oh, you know, you know, they're going to be occupant? Who knows carpentery? No, well, we're doing like a number,

a fitcher, they were, they were in the whole thing, and yeah, and then the end up, you know,

then they were, they're doing, so they're all the car people, they're doing, so, so I'm,

so that when he started a, when he started, uh, in the funder and they're

like, when he had a one, 22, years, until he he'll be

he's, just to get to the kind of A quantity of stories that a little bit of a while

I don't know about especially of the accidentes of what occurred in the funder and the people of

only knew to talk about and the press a business, sometimes not sellia. I think

there's two particular that I me, I I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I think were that were in some moment. One, was that when he was just when he was

on the time coming down for, I don't remember that, I said, I said,

that I see how was organized the company before the but he was cabinanded under a navet with one of the

engineers and conversing about something and the person is a cry, what's the what he

he's, what he he's got he's he's he's he said he's not

he's he's they're to move and where they're to move and where they

don't know what's said he said he's he's more of the goal or they're

they're they're when they that the casco is a word very great, result that the casco had

a little little a little what you was that they were going to they were

just for a tolva that was a cello so when those those they're

they're after a piece of the pico of the top cameo in line and with

the trajectory so it and it was it was it's practically

like a ball it would have to it's so it's it's it's

It's a zero, frio, in that moment. Although it were a got, well, it's a got of aero. So, as well, that's over the casco, and he said, no,

so if you fellacy that person. The other, that was the situation that I think that connect with the only thing paranormal,

for say to you a man that me, that's my abel of all the defunditora, there was an engineer in particular to curiousomently

they appodabed the fundidor. It was the veteran of the veterans of fundidora. I mean, I don't exactly

what's the process of the process of security, no have been many of but the arnoes of

acer or the chimeneas or the chimeneas that we see as an or in these edifices and what

they were like a kind of a piece of the what they were the engineer, the the

thing was a cletet and with pincas large and to bring the miri yeah and only

it was the rojo of the acer where he was funding. And a pure o'clock they'd he'll

he's agrega tantos of stano add other bult of yerro like if were doing a recet

for the fundition. So that person was the most that was the

so that they were the puttable in the podcast has he was

a man he was a man because just in one of these

torments of the one of some are not very, very, very, great,

and a iron, he an accident in the which he has been on the

and he and he came to a toll and of a so we're doing that the acer

to fend to fend to the body of the current of the and we

are in this then he in the tolls and it disintegro was a

was a was a murder instantane all everybody obviously was

he what had to pass of the time to do this someone

for the construction, I'm sorry the construction, I'm doing the work on the time to and to get to

get a other and to a woman and for a death not the production

defundiora then so tell me my old that he he took to do

a work to do work to do you talk of the day and that night was in

a turn noctur he took to do a time to make a

exactly that exactly So he had term, he was practically for out of the turn.

And of a repent, someone's he said, they're saying, they're saying to go you're going to the

landmions of the where are the topas, because there's a something like that someone is a lot of and it

seems to be there to get to get a accident, that there's to be a accident, so I'm going to

go to go back there. So, then he gets to the equipment, the equipment, of the equipment, the

equipment, the equipment, to do the escaleras, of the back to the endami

but not the the grass that was not a not a common for a

funer. The people that's the way to make the other than there's a

different from the water that and the and the grass like the kind of and I

said me my brother that was like it's considered pure peaches of pure

peyjos of carne so malcocosed they were this this gas that is like this

this is this not this not is because of the entrance to be a black not would be a lot of

so it's a very rare. It's like if someone had been having been to a racquet and it and it's like to do a manteca

and then so then so you put to clean and thence to start a mediation of escalers and it's to hear of the

talk about obviously the day of production yeah it was there was there was there were at there well

and it's there's got to hear of someone else someone is someone's talking to get into something

like if it was in the top of the top of the tawking, and he said, ah, car, that's, that curious. Counta that is normal that in a business that have been in a mechanic that's so,

it's normal to hear the noise, or the people are accustomed to the noises, but that was a room that I never had

heard. So, because the noise normally is like of a fierro, and this, no, this

was it was a person talking to a point, so, and to get to the same rhythm,

as you talkerias a porton. Then he he's going to start to start to say I'm

going to say I'm going to get a little someone to get to get to get to get to a lot of the

to make a even to make sure even a drama. So he gets to the part of the time to the time

the stovas they're completely vacations and I'm not quite that's that's easily

easily cabe a person to come in so then says ah, well no revisa

I think that are three stovas he revisa to the revis to the last the final

of the endami no there So, he said, ah, well, who know who has been?

When it's incorporated to because it was a way, you know, up the escalars and a landmere,

where they're all the time, when he does the way, he's, there's a other side of the line.

But no he's, so, yeah, it's a lot of and it's not a

little bit of the world in the night. So, he'd be a silhouette of a person, he said,

he said that he'd like like if had a, a overall, but, but it was completely

oscuro. I mean, not, not, not, not, not was not able to

see the different, because they were different from the uniform that they were not, and they were

not even, I mean, so I was a silhouette of a person of a person of a person

that was a person, was even more than I was even more a 90, I know, that stature,

he said, but it's but it's very great this person. So, so what he does,

so you do you, you're, you're, you're, you're, you, Passed something, how

Valhalla, no, the classic. But the person no, he contested. So, it's, that rarrow. When my abelow comes to get to get to come back,

well, well, there's no there's a way to do, the other person and he starts to gore to get to go to

that car. Well, he's to start the and my abel know and my while he gets

to the beginning of the next to the first, he's, he's, I don't

was never heard that he'd never heard to sound the passos. So,

still he the never see the the cell but they're seeing listening to

the passos. So, so I said, he said to someone

behind those metal. And I see, but I see there's no there no way

and it's and when it gets to get to get to get to the wall of

all the escalers and all all the he had been he's he was

I was cleaning from the above to the escalone, strapeying it. I know what he's done to do. I'm doing to do it.

But he's he got to get to keep to see it to get to this line. Because I'm doing the the sound.

What's going with this person? Who is? And because is it's still all all the whole of

the more the more the more more the more more than the more than the way. It was the

kind of like a animal like if had been been a kind of more he occurred

that he me said, no, well, if the classic of, no, well, here,

that's that's a question, and to keep to get a question. That was the only thing I

never got an explanation that's talking about, and the funer of all the other,

are those, but at final of to count, are those, accidents industrial,

but that was the only occasion that said, in this tollba he was the funder,

was a person very old, but I don't see that he was a only

it's the only connection that I can't do but never never knew

who's there's because they know they they're not because they're in a time of the

only person that's I'm the only I'm I don't know what I can't have seen

see that in fundidora there there many there's there there's that

the place in the moment maybe the for the lack of of the protocols of

that's the time of the time of the time of the time that they're in construction all of

that's there's a time of the stories that there's a person that came to a person

that's a question too that's he mentioned about that one a, I think it's a end of

a single year and this engineer North American he gets and he he says he says,

about with the supervisor that they'll do that he he says he said,

he's he's done the revision and he he's with the supervisor and that they

do they do not the other than the order of the first he's the general and he's is the

he's he's he goes he goes to he's he says oh yeah I know

he's that he he's he's he's he's he's he said

he's he said the reason of the see, the gringo, where is the that's the two,

three months, and I've been to be and the time. the time past. He said, how,

that's the last year? In the Orno, two, there's he's made. Accidentes

of those that were that's, the time, the time, the time, he said, so,

not for the accident, they were, and they were, this man, he said, and he said, and they're,

and they're in revision, the situation is this. Thanks, to the revision that they're in the Orno 2 no expletow.

So, he was going to get to all. So he went very marked because if they did the

revision and he's still not we're not doing the gringo, still we still not he's

not quite more contemporary he took to start. If man, I don't

remember, was with the Formula 1 when he got his intermex and he

he he took to see in a certain son somras that

were that they were I'm me me a I'm a

thing they were like if you were seeing you and allombrates and you know, I'm gonna

investigate and there's a question that if you go to the area that's the he said,

but he he, he no mentioned all that the podcast me he said

to the other people who me have said, in the other people in the

area of Santa catarina you you're you're you you're

you people who come from the river and if you're topas you're seeing

but never you're not like a silhouette of a little and you see you're you're going to

listen to the lament the creencia is of two or are the hurricane Hilberto that's

a hurricane because this river is a river so there normally no normally there

no there normally no the in the 88 exactly in the 88 he was a

lot of things because there there's some there's there's there

and there because of the people who not were in the situation and there's there's

but other people who are the people who were the when they're in some accident

soared those and that is the form in that they're still

in there's in fundidora there's very interesting. If you know, and then

some time in this video? And, Alex, a story about to be to be a

story relatively short. No, is my and it a question.

A prepa. No, me tiled at the secondaria. When he was

when he would be I think we're we're we're and we only

we know we're during the second and every yeah in prepa

garra for rombos different so then so I did the

Pista. I contacted so I'm relatively pretty specifically

by the podcast of because my function is to tell

the public, because the mine's, the really, are little bits. And then after a lot of times they're

to get to get to get and then the people me say, oh, yeah, a minute a one of a thing that's

something. And they're people. They're not, in this occasion, this occasion, he told a very,

very brief, that when he just had been in the prep, and a one of the other of these centers, of the most

labyrinthic who are here in the center of Montor-Rey. That the people of know, I mean,

to say, obviously, the name, for markers, but it's horrible to enter to that plaza commercial, that's like a labyrinth of escalers for able to get or to enter. Yeah. So, as, as, as, some, as are three pieces of plant, he and his brother, menor, were in the last one of the area of food. I think, I think they're relatively close to there,

and they'd have been only to, like, to buy something to come. So, when they're there, they're, they're saying, that a woman, starts a, like, like desperated and they're saying, Oye, what happened? It was called

in the plant of the mero above. So, they are they're to see a a person, that was the

person that was that was going, but what was he said one, what's here the person, because is that

nobody reactionate. So, none of the person were like, that's that's

that's that woman, no, everyone was all the whole so they're like,

but they're they're not, but they're they're they're they're saying, Oh, what's going?

He's critter was very desperated. So what's the occurre is to go to all the escalars and give all the way to the plaza to get to the plant back. That's not a,

not is a, not a mannitor to start to give us to get a much to get to the plant back, the person

yeah, then says, that's what, that will have passed, we've been, we've seen, but we're just,

but we're just, but we're there's an one time of the mom of the mom of them. So, they're,

what are what are what are doing? What are also was also very altera. And he said, no,

we're going to come to a car in this, we're going to go to go back, no,

regressens for the house, for the and they're not even not said, but it's

not even to get to a little to a house to go to and I think they're there,

they're doing that's a quarter of Montorrey. Then when they're they're they're not

they're not that's the house of the the family is one of these some

so mefo. So, then you what's what is that they've to find

to the other the and the question, but the what the

thing, the classic chism of all the people to be to be in what the

thing is that this this woman had a little a little like of a

five years and they're like they're like when she

she she she she's a new she in a woman

she had called with a piece of a

piece of and the So, of the impression, like he gave something, no see, maybe a problem

cardiac, that you had to the person, and fallacy in that moment, of the impression. When they're they're saying,

oh, yeah, well, what's, what's, the mom, was like, to say, I'm going,

to say, that one of the window, that was the bestina that was in the way, he was,

and he said, no, then they said, no, then they're, then they're, then they're they,

they're in their scene, they're they're in Only, like, I don't know if she's just, I'm

just had put a she had put something she had been in the way, but it was like it was in

no, no, it was not. But the mom, at the scene, she's impressioned. But the

curiouso of here is that that was that had passed, before that they were to

the back in the as a reason, they're when they're when they a

back to the five minutes of that they're that's they're trying to

find her is when she fallsed. I never never had there's a kind of the phenomenon of how

describe it. But I always say, for me it's like the phantasm that's the phantom because,

so they're to see, like the classic yorona looking my kids, although

not they're looking to those but it's but it's like, a car what happened.

Then when he when the thing to the mom and they what happened what you

oh, but this has to happen right and we're we've got to be

and we're getting in the place in the place last two minutes. He said, no,

she was here all of that time. He said, because I saw, she was, and I

see, that then, then what was what we saw what we saw. Oh, that's

there's a situation there, there, there are about the projections of angustia,

projections of aux But when one person is in those in those in those moments of the before

before, uh, uh, there's many there's there's there's doing a

message, talking about someone, there's, there, there, there, there's this

story's, he's, my record, the same, um, Juan Ramon Seans,

if he's, he's, he was, the author of the man paludududable. Ah,

I think so, he's, he, when he's in the hospital, and

He's not by the cancer. There were people that that's the same day when he

was in a central and they're talking about with him and they're in a conversation that he's he was

he was in a hospital. There's also the story of a person that's a company assurator

of auto and in this company of the securities when he he gets in the second

piece to to his and he he he he's he he's he and he's

he's very very Triste. So this person He affected a little to be it. Because it's a person normally very happy. I go ahead.

The skyline to say to go. No, he'll go and ask to the companions. Where is Don't know, that's done, where is Dr. Manuel, that he was able to be and that's been to say, you know, and they said, no, no, no, we've been seen in the morning. And so,

he was here in the passillo, and no we've seen, no we've seen. A media morning. Let's done the adviso, falle the day earlier in the

carreter to Puebla, a 150 kilometers of there. Okay. And she was like literally in that

place. No, there's a conversation, but there's the projection of this person. There's a

person that this same projection the way, but well, no, I don't know if it is a

one of a person. And in the dream, in the way intrusive, he's he's not

something, and he intrusive, enter a woman major that's

seen a other than a little but not know who's, he's like if you do you

say, you know, give me your time, no matter what you're doing,

give me those two minutes, tell me to do you that's that's that's

that's that's that's he's a he's a he's a he's a he's

he's he's the day he's like, he's a friend I'm a primary

and he said, well, this senior, I was the woman of Juan Miguel, but I

did this year this year. I'm a old. Juan Miguel, yeah not is

a friend of day of his day of this and they're on this and they

don't know, and they're doing with a man, he said, no, man, she said, he said,

he was he was a time to he was he had, he was he was the same

day or the day or the day so there there there's like situations

strange where those people in this leech of the death of the

way, they're still the opportunity to communicate but there's a story

that I like a really this program because you're seeing the

people the people people 100 septic that I think you

think honestly I think is one of the first one of the things

because when you're very susceptible until he, to make many

ideas, you're going to get to get to get to and you're and when

you're in it's more it's more easier to get the things. But there a group

of people that not they're not they're not a because they're

that you say, you know, it's when you when you know, there's

there's really not the way to play the thing doesn't not a problem

in a problem a that's really. There's a subject that he a

theme but for him simply has been a question. We're to put him the number

of Luceo. Okay. Luce is in a time of a transition of your life very

important. He's a time paranormal from the little but it's for him

is a chister, some a game, he was he was to start to make

certain symbols on all and all and all things that he were invocating

demonios and things he was he was like a person but for him

was a all this all this was to all Well, in this Attape of transition Yeah, it's 30 years

No, he has been so well The life not He had taken So, and a friend that's in States that has a

good business and he's getting a visa of work for that he's to go to go to

Coursions of Luccio never had thought of he was to be to work in something,

is like in a time, he's like a time, he's he's

he's oh yeah you do you do you an incentive that that's

for you is an incentive I'm other friend that he is helping

in the business and he is going to get a car and he and he going to

say he's going to a department embruchado it's doing very very barato that you

can be he said but he he says he says that he's not you

don't you don't I'm there's there so there there there

so there there's there I'm what I do you do it I'm

what I do he's in serious So, how can't me will do you want to

and I'm doing to do you? I'm saying, you know, but in serious, me said,

I'm saying that's a little bit more about the time. No, the quote, I was moose to go to

the casasmas no. The first that was the first was the most embruhable. Because,

because if they'd soundabap pass-tos, if you had some things, they'd

so things that were like in the phenomenon but no there

many there Really, like, yeah, there was a good time that nobody was there. The people

were there. They said that never were in table relation with the person who were there because no

durable. So, this type and the first is that is that's a little bit, symbolit

and in the piece, very beautiful, a belles, and he starts orations, and he's got some

to buy a and other other thing. Two years, Luceo is talking with his

man, he said, for for a for me the sofa of your house.

And he said, no, if you did you know, no, you know,

you know, you know, you know, I'm in what I met. What I'm what?

See, I'm in I'm at those things, the real. And then before to come to

back to get in places of internet and see, in places there are

in places, how invocate, and how control and how to put up all.

So, I, I, I'm my eyes impress and I started to imitate those things

for the day three, I started to see a lot down the door in the night, like if you

have a bell I had had left my balas there had done because

I'm not that they don't know to learn to learn to learn to soles

so then where I open the door in the

middle of the circle that I have there's the light

and there a she's a little she a hair,

mirada normal and just me and the door's in front of me he says well after there

I've not been able to work and I'm can't be able to be able to when I'm

talking to me say they're saying my name me say they've done

in the past of the of the I'm in my suh in my

dreams and he does do you do this and he does it I'm

I'm I'm can't get I know the You say, is a lucid.

I'm conscious that I'm trying to but I'm doing things terrible, atroces. And she,

she, even I'm saying, even I'm saying, I'm going to get to be to torment me. I know what

I'm trying to but I'm doing. And his friend, he said to the carpentrya. No,

there's a way in the way of my house, to be, to see. And then so,

and then so, and I said, and I'm back. I'm going to see there. Here,

in Mexico, you no me and I'm still, but I'm still taking the things with a little more of calm.

Wow. Things extra. No? Well, that you see a a phantasm for the

frontier, if I'm more strange. So I just why I want to go to go to to go to make a

sure. It's true. It's true. It's good. Thanks for having to do the family nocturn.

Well, you can be doing Instagram like Alex La Salde with double Z. There's

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or also in the events and in the podcasts of comedy paranormal. Perfect. Alex, you're much.

To the contrary. Much thanks. And to the family of a nuptura. Let's a new

time and that have your time and that have your times. Bye, bye.