HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de Exorcismos Forenses , Posesiones Oscuras y Visitas Siniestras | EP 323

Episode Date: September 8, 2025

Bienvenido a ésta Oscura Fogata de Historias de Exorcismos Forenses , Posesiones Oscuras y Visitas Siniestras en  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE  El día de hoy les traigo historias macabras que ustedes, querida familia nocturna me enviaron al wts de las pesadillas. Escucha la historia de Alfonso y cómo enfrentó los secretos paranormales que persiguen a su familia. Descubre la casa embrujada de la tía Margarita, fenómenos poltergeist, sombras siniestras y posesiones oscuras están al acecho. Mientras un médico forense se topa cara a cara con el mismísimo demonio así que prepárate porque llegó el momento de que  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE es un canal de youtube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022, su primer episodio fue "vivo en un casa embrujada" en el que una chica narró sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de éste canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de éste canal , la familia nocturna , creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz. Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados. La comunidad de éste canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando ésto, tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenido. El duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora.El Narrador y todo el equipo de Hablemos de lo que no existe trabajamos para darles a ustedes querida Familia nocturna contenido original y de calidad, tardamos a veces semanas ideando formatos luego de tomar en cuenta las cosas que nos han pedido a lo largo de la temporada anterior y por eso el día 23 de Septiembre de 2024 comenzamos una nueva temporada que llamamos FOGATA DE HISTORIAS, en donde el narrador prepara una serie de historias escalofriantes una tras otra para retar al espectador a terminar el episodio por el nivel de miedo que genera. En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado.​

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Via Rae, the voice that we love that we love. Welcome to Famine Nocturna, to this oscura fogata of histories. The day of today, we're going to talk about exorcisms forensicismes, possessions oscures, and visits iniestas. but, but before to initiate, let me

to say this episode, I'm a surprise. And, and before to say this surprise,

there's a question, and that's the first of the new and never have you never had been a

dark of a lot, I'm I'm in the light, and if you're to be

to the foggata, at final, commentmmelo, but to give to the the

well, to the family more to the your internet. And, I'll approach to say, invoked my

night night, for that's present in the comments and say, narrator, you know, I'm going the banderita

of your country, because we're going to have to be a very great surprise. One of this, comece us

with this dark fogat of stories, and if, if you're new, not to pay the light. When I

initiated the podcast, it's from a conviction personal, from a good personal, that the thing of the

thing of the paranormal to me call. So, doing a way, like the theories

that were in the time, what is what what happened after the I want to formular the and in

base, or taking in account, the stories that were I'm going to make some a little

data, I thought, experiences of you're but also experiences of people that were

in this camp, and of many other people that had had been experience

with the paranormal. And I I get a various, no conclusions, hypothesis, can say,

and neither to get to that, plantations, speculations, certain types of phrases that make them think they're

that it depends much the how you live to see, to see what after you do you're

after you there's a person, and we're saying Alfonso, and me said Alfonso that in

his family had a tradition very very strange, that he never he loved. And that after a few years, he questioned and he said that maybe

no, he had been able to have done. And it was that they said, if not you portas well, your abuel will come to jallartes and he didn't. And he never ever had ever seen to anybody. Because the abelow. He no knows his abel. The good

Alfonso, he knows that has an abelowel who has a felipe, but the abelowel who's called Felipe, He died 10 years before he were he never knew

he was in a photographia and in the moment in the moment in the he was he had

passed he had passed over and when he has even more as to that the

little that the only there was there was there was a moment or your

father you go to go to he was when he asked you said he they were

that he was he was he was he was he was he was

Why are you saying that? And there's a situation important. Not just to him and a her mother, his primos, also his primas. All those children of the abuelo, Felipe, say the same, Hicks and they're saying to his families. Why? Why do you say that? Because they're not of the abuel. It's a horrible.

Apart, to get to the school and that teaguen't to hear my family or my papa saying, your abhorlo, you're going to get to have the past, It sounds even ridiculous, we're like people like very ignorant. So, so I

Cresi, says Alfonso, I grew like with much a great chance to the tradition familiar. It was a

matter disciplinary and sentito. I don't see if it was that, or were other

things, but when I'm 15 years, with that I'm to give to my

family, I'm to come and to comeer. The day that me catched in the

house, passed something a very rare narrated. I I'm going to to do my family

no's a count, I'm much precautions for that they're not going to do you know I'm always I'm going to

do you know to get into any aroma but one day that I thought that no I'm no way

and the voice of my mom is the person who's who's who's who's that I'm

I'm going to I was going to I'm going to try to so it's so it's that it's

form a very cynica, me I kept with my bottle and I kept with the tobacco normal, and

me kept in my invitation. And I'm the cigar and where she comes and I see, she's a

palida, palida, and I said, no, yeah, I'm the reaganed the again,

I'm a manto, I'm not going to go to go to see what I see what

I'm and that and I see that but in the mom No, no-noge. No, no, no one no way to reagan.

She's there, norrador, but with a fear that never had seen, he had been in the hands, the car, the head was palidda,

and he's going to get to and he makes a back on the and just me in voice, vaguely, and me says,

apage that that's a rapid, and I say, yeah, Mama, yeah, if you, I'm going, if you know,

if it's he's all right, you know, and it's he says, and he says, if you enter to your abelowel

will come for you and I'm my way my mom always with that phrase I'm in

artos me agger the cigar narrator it in the bottle and the bottle it's the

vienta from the door to my mom is a person very correct how she'll

do you do you could generate some some I'm I'm I'm

what you come and then she she has a sound to callate and

sound in a the house, Narraud. You know, they're in some of the house, and then I'm going to

my mom, this is my mom, and I'm going to do the signo with the finger in the book, like the

talk about the secret, to the call you, it, and it's a car you, the door,

and he says, put to talk to me to other other thing to do this other thing, I don't see

if I'm playing a a brom or no, but me It gave so fear that I'm

to say, oh, Mama, yeah me are going to try the results of the examines

in the school. Me those give in this summer. Puras narrate. Nothing to what we

were in the school. No, we're in time of the time of clarifications. They're

purest of that's me just that you're going to play football and we we're going to have to

get a little new and my mom, and my mom to do you my mom and what's

that's, but I'm she was distracted just behind behind the ombro,

to the door, and there was a moment in the the time of there were in a time,

and there's about five, ten minutes more of the silence in the house, and then

then I got to the arms and he says, I'm going to talk

to talk to the time, nor do to do do this thing, and I

know, I'm a real. My mom is he got to revented the tatach

she, she's okay, what's what's he's saying? And there

is where is where I'm thinking, if we need to talk to Papa, but I have to say, Papa, let me see a mom to the hospital because she has been able toot. I'm sorry, I'm nervousissimo, of what I'm going to do at a rato. How I'll explain, Papa,

that Mama, all the time, I'm going to be able to do you do a lot of it, that's going to be a lot of that's of the second-pice? The Lord is partied. And, narrator, me kept a bad. after this situation

my mom my mom yeah no I'm doing I'm doing I'm going to I'm going to but not do you

know they're not really only I'm just a little but I'm going to but I'm perfectly normal and I don't

think I'm my dad and my mom and my mom just goes to him to he's like Alfonso

come back I'm going to go down I'm going to the call into the patas because I know what I

don't like they don't like they're they've got the core the corner between the path,

because I don't know how about this thing to say the way and say the father, and now

how I'm doing it's not a thing that's what you in that moment my mom and said

in front of me yeah so it was going to be a black and I looked to see

to be and me did you here in the house and I just just I'm just

just I'm just so we're doing we're all we're we're all we're all we're going to

go to in any place in special. We're doing going about about the

call narrate or and after the time of going to do you do things

to be doing this my my dad said, they're to have much

care, his his father was a difficult, very difficult. And

his abel was very clear in life. I don't want to have

children men I prefer not to not not,

and he I put it very bad, very violent when we did we were doing things that

he considered that they're his abel. I don't say that those things not they don't they

not they're not they're not they're not they're not much care, don't they never in

the house or they're very bad. And then I'm I'm kind I'm

kind of I'm kind of rata of that's rata that has been in my

life and And, I just me asom between mom and papa, and I say, you can't just be stupid, it's not, you know, the things that are you saying? I mean, just say,

now just say, they're not saying that they're going to those vices, and yeah, no, no, they're to make my papas with fear and say, you think that's a game?

You think we're that we're doing? Think we the about the because it's not the time? No, you know, you know what

you're going to do? And then there a guy, to whom never we're, because they're that this

Tio was in very bad the and that then was he was a kind of a kind of a little bit more

and it's a man who he's a little bit more when they're when you know what you know what you

you know you're just directly always that always that something that we're going to like the

example and they're in the poor tio in peace so the poverty Tio nothing has

nothing to you have some he's some problem has some has some

a a new My papa me says, we're going to do you. Some of the 11th of the night in the arrodo. And we're going to the house of a tio that no-no's-spread. We'll talk the door.

He's a-som. He's got to be that not to be able to doormice. And my papa just said, you know, and I need to talk to the

chos. The man, we're going to the kitchen, no, we serve there a part of coffee and tea.

I'm this I'm alusinated, no I'm understanding what is what is what's what's going to family of loco if nobody me had explained

and there sat down in the mess me said my man he's my man who he's going I'm not I'm thinking

but I think I'm what I'm what you did you in the house? I'm and you

did you did you did you go to go back to come to turn to be

going to get that's talking too and then then he he said

he said and then you don't me you don't you because you've

And then my mom I began to say, when your abelowler and before you were, I needed a person that made

to make to make sure, you know, after a more than 20 years, she offered to that he

was to help with the part of the above, your man, was in the part of

the right and of the house he went much humor, but much, much, much, much,

much, tobacco, Firt, as pure, like a cigar, of these and that's

a man, to do you that's in the area, in the area, in the zone, he was doing the

time, he was doing that I was, and I said, what you don't know, that he

did this things, and he abertament he said, and you think, that thing

that's that thing, that's going to get to the things, are pure tontteries.

And there, says my mom, that heard some those passes that they said they were in the

fourth of and then those passes were a sensation fea, was a sensation like a menaceant no

no pass nothing, my tio he's kept to be there and then the night he's got

grittando from the housepid's my mom was coming to go back to be to see

and when over the door he says what I'm that he's my t'clock my

my tio is accosted boca-abajo in the the camera but is the the middle of the

head and the middle of the head of the head of the head of the way to be and he's not

the way of the head like a man in an man and he's in Yeah, let's go. It's Josue. It's Josue. And that just saw how

felled the cabos, and the tio went and he was a good at the camera. That was the first of 35 nights that was going to one and other of the same. So, they deigned the shoulders, it was a damage to the legiont. Part of the column, then he was, he had to have various surgeries, because the

abelowelow had said clearly, I don't want to have kids bad, I prefer to not have those. And since that day So, it was a legend in the family in a manner

direct. And now, narrator, that I lived that I'm with a fear that you know,

to have been, we were in the car of the backer of a silence, sepulcral, it was

that we had been got to all about all in the house, we're

we're not, I'm to my house, and I'm going to my

her mother, she goes to her abitation, and no he's going to go to the time, and then, of the three, four, the morning, that I have the eye, pelon, because I don't know to doorme, because I'm mortally, because I'm more to do with fear, I'm going to, I'm going to throw a gritty,

then I'm going to be a cramese all, and I top-up with the face of my arm, and I said, it's somebody in the quarter. Narrator, was there just a sudden, I'm just going to do

to let's let's let's get a car for the suss to me. I have to when I'm going to be when I'm the two

we're the same. There's a little bit with a roppa with a long,

is just out of the room and he's he's that he's not I'm

what he's going to we're we're we're we're in some moment

that's that's he's no I'm not even if it's disfaneceo or something, because I was like a loco taping me the eyes,

looking to my brother, being to the door, in some moment, no is that. My mom says, my mom says, "'So, he liked to beckon to go to bribus the borgheims.' And then I'd say, but he could have fumate?

His kids, no. Never, under any circumstances, if you occur to keep to live in a house in that you had told to that be enbrujada, or possibly you can't get to what she's going to happen to

the Tia Margarita. We have a subscriber that says, Narcourt. We have a Tia, that's a Tia super-buna-olda-old. Super-linda. All right we

and we love us and we want to. She's the day of today of 50 years, never she no, he interested, he

took his companies, then they then it generated very good money, and a part of there

is dedicated to every certain time, vend the house that has got a other and is

he's moving to and it's a mother and it's the city of the life normal. He's with the family, come up a person a little bit with

a lot of heart that we're doing much. The Tia Margarita. But, well, the reality is that she was that she has changed much. One of the casas that acquired the Tia Margarita,

for not say the ultimate that maybe will acquire in her life, it was a house that since they were said that the house was inbrujada. No, they set out

the world, they said that in that house were and they were stories of different inclines, different dweens, people that had

rented the place and people that had bought. There are stories of that in the night you levantable a song of piano. The house is very grand in a narrator.

No, there's a piece of a piano. A teclado you know, but a piano. And then, that are

sounds of piano, a sound of a sound very fine and that had people that had had been the second

piece to to look to where I'm to come the sound. And when they had no piano.

It was there's a sombras, persons that were there on the entrance, waiting to the person that was coming down to that was going to go to go to the

door to the door to your house or he passed in two or three occasions, and that these things was there were where they were

seeing, never was moved to moveers, they was there in the passiel, the room the sameandoes the room.

The sombras not were sombers were horrible, sombris, sombras, like of persons retorsied,

of persons suffering. It was something that was a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a

spantous. Also, that in some of times in the ban on the bad you

had occurred that they're found in the walles, in the piece,

in the space, that they were that the time to appear and that

only a one one once told, that being

being she and being the she was the

she saw wheyes in the door. It's that he saw that more than I've lived and there

had been pasted more things. There were infestations of alacranes and of the arrains

and that after after of many of the insecticid pass and they were to get a

person that were to a good a good and they had been a couple that

after after after having been there they're but in the ruin

to have new and that they were they were all both

separated very very very much very My Tia, by and he asks the

and the the other people. And the people are the people who don't see a lot of not come to

that house, the house if it's embojated. But as my Tia was in the thing of

the business, she thought that what they were to buy the house at a very low price

and to get to get some to the he said, he said, they're they're doing

with the people, there's that. For this because if not, for what

you can you if there are things, no there's no way in that I'm going to get, or then I'm going to

get to be able to the property and me go to see the because they're going to want to be able to. But for the doones, they say,

my tia said, I know, my Tia said, I know, where I'm, so it's in a regateo with the

person, and the regateo he gave me to my Tia. She expected that in the person no

she could move, because after to tell your stories of terror and be intransigente, then you're

to buy nothing. And it was very rare, because all the regatio that was putting to my Tia, that every was putting, you more exigant, the person of the immobilary accedia. You'll go to be a narrator. We'll put it a month. But the month is fictitious.

If the house costed three millions, my Tia had acquired in one and a half. And not was a rematche bankar. The dukees, it was the money, so it was a lot. No, there were more things, no more situations, no have any fraud, had been

have been clear and when they've been to make a notary and he's present to the new to do you to do you

the new new before the money before to signer a little I'm a car with you. I don't

want to keep a my soul and in my heart. This property not should

be able to even still can't be and I'm even no,

I'm don't know don't you know those things. It's that is that not to believe

or not the case is too the and my tell he said, No, he said, No, he said,

Cuentem, $100,000 and we're back. And the sir said, MENOS so I can't

sell it. I'm going to make the house, and in that's the thing. I'm going to get there.

I don't want to see any other any other any time. And my Tia, not you

got to the house, that she put to the he said, and he said, then we're so then we

say, that's my responsibility, and you not it's my responsibility, and the He said the best

But in serious No, I live in that place. Serrary don't Trotos and went. They were in two occasions

more. My Tia no wanted to be in that little bit there. There's a

little bit of my Tia Margarita was a person that was a person that was

when I'm that house is a renta a department and she live in the department

now Igarro a carpintery of electricist and things just so so that

now is to live at the house and she'll do the remodelations or when to try to

people who they're going to be to do you because now she will see to see

the time then then my time in pause during during

the two months in that she took those intensive and

it's she was to be to be to the house

and we we we this that is that we not we don't is that

not that we have been that we're not that's not that's not we're not. It's that we're

people who we're not and so we are very active, all we're always we all we're

and we know we we're we're not we're going to be in the family,

nor who can't get of what me's when my father not when my father no

my family, and who's our country is our course, it's it's a time as a little,

we've done that we've seen that we've seen not even of the tia or the remodelation

and it's more my mom says, I'd be being occupied with the remodeled to the

house inbruchated to be putting skeletons and men, and duels and duels for all

down to gogues and then we'll get a carcahada because if we we'd be

not we're so my tea is like, my Tia's so, and for the narrator, seven months, eight months,

nine months and amy, it's the preoccupation. Yeah, what's going to be? We've been a message if no respond. I'm going to

do you know, I went to visit her with my brother. And narrator, you know, I want to say so direct.

I think the things are very bad, very bad. We went to the house of my my tia.

No, I want to say in what quality we've the fach of the house.

It's was a place it where no they had passed a

trap or they have been barried, and they have been in six or

seven months, the in 20 or 30 years, the quantity

of the amount of the the immundice that had in the

house was a bad, the yard, all things

potrida and it was done, it was a lot, it

did me did a year, and if had had been had

had been there had been there disappeared. We put us to talk the door, but

we're going to the porch, to the porch, not out of the car, and we'll do it, and we'll be to do it

and we'll be it all the carminting. Sub we're the caroncels, and we we're going to get to

get to the door and we're just to the 20thiae back, after the second-20a-a-a- bese,

and it's another person. The cabos all despeinated, the roba, all sucia, the car is bad, and she be

mal, desnutried, she be mal, desveled, it's bad, rara. My Tia

had a mark of these that are the people who are the people, she'd be a lot of

all the roste because it was a person very suenia, now I had signos of person like enojada

molesta. Well, narrator. Well, my Tia, no saluda, just doing us

so we're we're in a bad moment he's we're going to visit us no passen le

but it was like inexpressive and at the intersejo froncid like molester

it was rare a narrator I'm I'm my little my hand the

car emergency you can't get a number and just put there no more

we're just we're making and my t'emned and my tina says

that's good that me visit I think that you know I'm sure that's super rare

that commentio my Tia never was a person sentida and she's I'm but we're

not we're having said to you and we're being the remoderation yes the house

my little beautiful marrador when when we we're the umbral

she put the full the the whole the front

all all all all you all and all all over

the house abandoned that It's in the middle of the nada and is full of insects. Passes some pacitos more, and pass on cucaraches of one for another,

no one, or two, a quantity asqueorosa. Volto to be to hermina, and my auntie no, I started to say, we've got to be the passelations. We've got to change the

madder, we changed the piece. Marrador, it was like if me was talking of another house different to the I'm seeing

the, the piece that is there old, socio, the walls are all

allpinted and there's there's there's that's I'm not the things that's there's

there's there's a there's a room and that's my time, and this here in the

cell we've new and we we're the same the cell was a

narrative. I was talking with a person that's in another reality

all all all was all all of the So,

I just I'm able for the bottom and I'm emergencies, we need to bring a

ambulance. And where I'm saying, it's a little bit of the armors, and he says, this is my

house and not we're going to get us and we're saying, oh, I'm sorry, Tia,

I don't know that I'm talking, it's we're very palid, we're

saying my one my woman, that I'm saying my people, because I'm

so you're not very very much in my house, the The door. The eyes they changed.

No, is the mirro of my tian, and are the eyes of my tian, is the color of the populia

of my tia. We're not seeing the one of the others, we're out of the pastio,

we're doing the door, we're doing the door, we're doing to get a middle of the passage,

who's in the door no-the- we're all the mother, we're not, the Tia, Margarita,

something, that's the house is there Embrojada. And there's a, and no, they don't start with superstitions, they used a joke. He was to tell a detail. And then my mom says,

but is that, because they're inventing this? Your Tia, Margarita, your Tia, Margarita, no, you know, I don't want to an insect, grita like a loka? She is the first

that's doing the callas, that there's a cuckarache, come to help me. Moma, the house is a podrida,

and she's eating the Tia. Well, narrator. All the things that they've got to do you get to to get a my Tia Margaretita

of her house? Some things that that I don't know to say but they're to do processes legal and right my Tia are in an

hospital psychiatric. I'll tell what I think. In the hospital, we're saying

that's schizophrenia. I'm sure that that that woman was a woman was made a lot of that was the last thing,

and it was to be the last thing. As a. As you know, family nocturnal, especially those that you know, know, you know that I'm very curious and a question, but also they're

that one of the things that most me is the theme of exorcisms. Now, I want to be very clear with that. No is a theme that me generate a morbo, no is a thing that me like in the sense as a little

strange, no. The theme of exorcisms is a theme that me a good in the personal. Because there are people in different rams of the science, digacy, medicine,

psychiatry, medicine forensic, that have had been encounters with persons that have this problem

of the possession. You have to know, that exist in the persons that are in

these rams, that are people who are susceptible to to get to get to a certain type of

creencies but there people whose person aseptic are people that are

people who are people who are so professionales in what they do they divide perfectly their beliefs

of what they're doing in their work and they're doing a division that is antagonist and to survive of that shock of that kind

contraste that kind of strong between creer and not creer what they're simply and simply and

simply is to start doing the things and not to ask where one and where one and

where it's only so on the I'm this is for experience personal. I've

talked with a a lot of persons who have had been that have been these ramas and the form of explain

this contraste that for science not they're going to be going to do do that's not far and fin

and fin no I'm going to do do that's something that's something that's something I'm I'm

I think this because me I've I'm just I'm just a video that's a lotura

you know you're this creas a copy this creator of content, signast, author of just on YouTube,

that I'm going to if you do this thing of exorcisms, possessions, sacsartes exorcists, have many

interviews there. And there's a video in the call about, I'm in an exorcism with the

Father Forte. You're going to a context very rapid. The Padre Forte is a second,

that's a second, or in his moment, with the Father Gabriel Amort, and was

a grand exorcist in Spain. I I think it was, because the day of today, until where I see, still live, but I don't see if is still dedicating to the

exorcism, or now they're going to another minister. The Father Forteer had in a moment an oge very great in Spain, because he was

writing conferences apart of his ministry. All this to give diffusion to this type of menesteres, this type of the knowledge of

situations and of phenomena. Also, He also, and he was about theology, of demonology, and expressable

what he was knowing in his experience. And a past of that was a exorcist, he was a person with the

feet in the earth, and he said, the great majority of the cases that have lived,

no have been cases of possessions reales. If there had been a good because a

lot of a lot of cases tremendous, but it was a percentage badissive

the he was a person being a type of talking of that time, when a medical forense

that in this time has a very good renomber, he's dedicated to a whole of the thing of medicine for forensic, and he says,

no, in medicine for forensic, you're a bit of things that the human, that's ever in the life will be able to

be. Things that are in posessions. For that the time of the possession,

he not he not was like something any relevant, nor real. Very probably probably is

some type of a transitor that the other person that is attending as a other person who doesn't know my

know how they're but if a day a lot of the another point extra. One of the people close-out-a-legged to the President-Forteur, is there in the presentation, and result that is an amiguerre

of this medical-for-ence. If it's that when you're in the presentation, this young, this person, a certain, the father-for-tea, he says to the medic-for-ence, oh, yeah, no you want to know. And the medical-forenser, he britts, they bring in the eyes, because there, I

resone much with him. He, too, he also, he said, and he said, as a scientific, clear that that's a phenomenon. I'm interested to be what

is what is going to be there's a position? I'm going to tell you're what is your postura.

I'm really what kind of that's the kind of doing it's the phenomena, I discover the trick of the

bell or the man. Then, he says to his friend him, please, presentamel

and when the father Forteah he, they recognize in that moment of the platic

about what he's he's he's Forenese and he says, no, you interest would be to be a exorcism of and the doctor? And the

medical forensic he said, well, the day that has one that really be a possession, you'll be to talk and if you are here, we

can't be. And it was a time, a time considerable, and a day received a message to his cellular. I know that

probably you're going to say that no. I know that is the poor moment in that you can't you can't

probably Not only even you're in the city, but in this moment I'm going to an exorcism and this is a position real. Do you want to be to be with your own eyes? The message was received the medical Forensse. The telephone of the that he was the Father Forte. He gets fascinated, but his head had a word. What possibility that has received this message just when I'm in the

city of the Father Forte after having been from various cities, This is strange. So, he is that he is to move, to go to go to where he's a father, but he says,

father, he will be to honest, no I have a way to get. I'm a way to get,

but no my vehicle. And the father, the way directly, he said, well,

rent a car. And then the medical forense, extranated for the response, he said,

for the first in the life, I went to a car and me where I went to

the car, and me the GPS, no had a manner of to be

a bit of and they're in a form very that's really a lot of outside of the recinto, where me was important to be there, the father-forteer, we're having a person, and I'm trying to, and and know it perfectly

how long do you're the substance, what type of effect have been, what are the form in the way in that they're in the form of

different in the people. Two, that's that makes that you know's and so much contact with those disorders

mental. Dice, you know, I've been a question of, you're bear the hand with the

suffering of someone and so the medical forensic. When he gets

to the church they're in a lot of in this sotano he

topa with a little a little the recinto, in the

he was that had been to that's a very strange was

a area that was a very many many

mue there many things different immobiliar for that

were sit in the people, but there much space. Just at the center of the place, a woman chaparita, accosted in the piece, and it was

so delgatita, but so delgatita, that you'd be you a person with a little mass muscular. Serca of that woman, was the mother, and

then there was a altar with the Santissimo. The Santissim, the hostia consagrata of the Churches of the church a Catholic, that is like the form of

to understand it at a level theological is God Echopan. So, it's like the part more sacred that could have there and was there present. So, he gets this place, but the medical forensic, no

has experience in the exorcism. And mention, there was something very rare that I'd, the three that we'd, we'd have to observe the phenomenon. The three, we're sent us, as of a form inmediate

in a same bank at the front of the place with much fear and that's

that's I'm not I'm a person suggestionable and irsceptible these things

my work is to confront me to things of this type that are

demons and no are they're they're I'm I'm there

and we we're there. The muchach the man that's the

thing is like if it's intert, until that the Father Forteca, commenced the exorcism.

When the father fortee, commenced the exorcism, the little, a little, chaparita, chippita, that has a little bit of

a voice like of a man of 40 years, but an man molest, enojado, a voice a voice that

carraspea, and was the first indication that I put to revise. And the the question that I

made in my head, confronting the phenomenon and from a perspective scientific, was how

time it would do that? To do that does that does it will do you want to get to be

when it. After that, the father Fortea commenced to be in Latin and she

starts to talk to the Latin he respond. I know I know

a little of Latin said the medical foreignce a little.

The little she that maybe the father Forteagh and he just put up and this is a montage and this is something

and it's something and it's a lot scientific question a whole, all, all, it puts in perspective no you can't create something

you need, you need to evidence and then he comes to take data of this. Certains

the words start to understand that is a question theological what is dialogue with

the father Forte or say related to something with with the angels, with the

demons, something of a monology, something but for a new that was this man,

this mania, had a amount of information that even even was thinking to the

father and that is normal, that is habitual, that that quantity of information

in the case when you that that's ed and with that muscular

because it was a much a very desnutrition no doesn't

in any sense. Comience to to advance the process and it gets a moment in that this

she's up the little and the father force doing the process of exorcism

makes force in the muchach for that the much the man commience to get

to come to the mom and the two they're they're and what

I'm I'm I'm a tonito. The chick with a

father that easily pays around of 70 to 90

kilos and a a lady that a woman that is a lot of 50, 60, a lotchita, a machete, and a machete, and it's in front. It's a medical forensia. It's a medical forensic, no, no, no. This type, one, it's, I'm not, you know, it's a lot of work. It's a lot. I'm in this time, I'm, you know, in this time, practice a arts marciennes as part of my day-a-day, and me could considerer in that moment as a expert in power

physical to the person. Sabia to reduce to the person without a lot of doing to do you? The person was a little

immobile and not going to cause any damage. Then then then I'm active because I'm I'm going to her and I'm

going to get a key directly that I'm going to let me lastime and with this I'm going to do you. And battalion

with her more than a person of my time and my size. I was in that time I had 40 years

and I had 80 kilos. This This was a little bit of the middle than I. It was a summently delgated and had three people

at the way. Lograms we've got to do you, we're going to get to the piece and when we are the side of

the arm in the other side is the other side of Fortea and she'll get the the three. As a medical, that's a

no, it's not can't. No, there's form in that that that's can't. I know how

are the substances. I don't perfectly of how our brain when it's how it and how it's our biochemical.

That's not not soced. No, it's going to that muscle or not. And in that moment,

now I'm going to have to think I'm because I'm to get in into things. Maybe this not a montage.

Talves this really is really this really I'm here in front of a demon. Passed in a second

this person says, I'm, I'm just so I'm so I'm for how we we want to

so exactly how time was the but it's not a up to get and we don't know

we're we're a time and then we're back on when we back it

and it and the piece of and then that that that I'm

to be to act to I'm apart apart to a

that he he had said I've done that no intervin

in that had had entered and he had

to let me have to let's say, the medical forensic is a medic, inquietto, know Spanish, Italian, and English, and he commenced to talk to the three languages,

making different questions to the demon, and say, and you'll go to answer. That muchach had a information

of things related to medicine foreignce, and in the idiom that he was in the other way he was

in the Italian, in Italian me respond to perfectly of form fluid and

me said exactly the response of what he had asked, no, this chick not had

those his own and it's this I'm getting impacted, I don't think what

is what is what it is what has no, it has any any sense,

this this no this is this is soceding and then you know, you know,

you know that I'm you know this thing, but I know I know the

words of this little bit of what he does with this voice of a woman is to make make me

a little to come and I'm instantly at the internal brinked to my convictions

I'm so I'm so I'm so I think you I'm just I'm I'm

just I'm and then just that more grunier and he he starts to have a conversation

with him and then then I start to me salve me go and I go and it's

when he he's a when he And he says, here is where I had a real. Physically

we could do you. He had a force, a force that was monumental. But if really was a

demonio, spiritually, not I could be done. I don't know where I'm

meted. Ah, yeah, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

wait, before to start this story, little little of six hours. Six

hours that she mantoo this chica, about that voice guttural, what he said that this medical fornense said, this is, it should be aphonic or dysphonic,

minimum, but still talking exactly exactly. It's a moment in the that's, he's, it's a

person in-s- in that exorcism. They had been said two demonios. The father Forte asked how many more had.

They said, we're not a legion, and one of them said, saying that was like one of the

grandes, but no he was going to say the name, and that was going to be going to

but he was going to do you know, after six hours of exorcism, all we

were all we're all, we're very very, very, caused,

exhaustos. And this chica out of the trancee, is fresh like a lechuga,

no tranceance no physical, nor mental and emotional. apart of that, her voice is a nice, dulce,

beautiful, hermone, no has any disphoneia in any type of effectation

in the garganta. Since that I said, this also is specifically

she doesn't be affected emotional, physically also, even, even, although

that has been had been got and she is fresh and the garganta

and with the garganta, and with that's what was first time I've made a

point that if in effect this is to this one was a problem it's a question

and that this history well to see that the video when you know when it's

this video because it's very good but when a person that a

person that has had given a profession of a way very

very a pegated to the method scientific and it's top with these

phenomena and not a montage really no in counter-puestas and

it's a general questions. And with this story, we've got to get to the dark fagina

and stories. But, before I'm to say this something that's very interesting. Dear family nocturna,

yeah are the first days of the fogatas in-vibo of the tour of Mexico. And you can't go

there. There's a link, for that you see the places and can buy the time

and I'm to give you a member of the family of the night me and he told that for questions

of the time he took to be traveling for the republic and he said, and he said, you know,

put there all the first of the times. I'm going to get to be in the fogats. will be different.

So, so that's our newcturna, that's not a newgat will be different. And if you

want to be a more times, they're going to be very much. Now, so,

to you to see, to the time you want to you want to have good,

desks and the and the Peasadles. Bye-bye. And the bullet are in the channels of diffusion.