HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de lugares malditos y exploraciones peligrosas Ft. @RaizaRevelles99 |Ep 180

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

he visitado los lugares mas embrujados del mundo y un ente se me pegóBienvenida Familia Nocturna a un nuevo y aterrador episodio en  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE  el día de hoy me acompaña una super invitada, la buena  @RaizaRevelles99 Raiza Revelles es una creadora de contenido paranormal, que inició compartiendo acerca de los libros que leía , después reveló secretos aterradores acerca de la casa donde vivía , se involucro tanto por el tema paranormal que creó un grupo de investigación conocido con " La Sociedad de las Pesadillas" y ha viajado a diversas locaciones en distintos continentes buscando y viviendo horrorosas experiencias en los lugares mas embrujados del mundo . Todo esto te lo digo porque hoy viene a contarnos los momentos mas aterradores y sus miedos mas profundos POR CIERTO, PARA QUE TE DES UNA IDEA ella rentó éste año la Casa Original del Conjuro para hacer una investigación paranormal y le pasaron cosas que a muchos traumarían... así que prepárate porque llegó el momento de lo que @hablemosdeloquenoexisteHablemos de lo que no existe es un canal de you tube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022 su primer episodio fue vivo en un casa embrujada en el que una chica narro sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de este canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de este canal , la familia nocturna creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz.Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados.La comunidad de este canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando esto tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenidoEl duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora.En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado .

I think there are some of the energies that they're that's kind of and that are they're not they're going and they're

when he's when he's when he's in some trances very rarous if he he's he gets

done with the car's in the camera and he starts to say to now he's

out of the situation and is sitting in this court and it's like

it's like it's he's he's I'm the name my my

brother of my and like it's like to be back and it and I

I'm just more more more than and the that's my mom and me says welcome

to family nocturna to this new episode to let me we'll be the day of today

we're a super episode family nocturna because yeah so

he's he's in the podcast a person that me have had

I'm because we've we've we've been Raiza Revelyle. Reza, how is that? Good.

Thank you. Thank you. I've seen it. I've seen it. I'm not going to be able to the microphone. Yes. How are you? How are you?

Thank you for invite me. I'm very emaciated. Of course. Of course. Muto. Muto. Me has to talk about me with various of your

work with your career and it's rare to topar me into the theme of the terror that so polyphacetic so is that felicitities.

I'm I'm a time. Thank you. I'm a same time, it's like me serve a chero of documentation the things that you do. I like much that you take as well as well as

things with a lot of details. I saw before, in some moment we'll boarder us in the practice, but I saw what you did with the Casa of the Conjure. And when you left to a one platic in the opcast Yeah, that they're going to be the channels of the rise at the final, they're going to

appear here for that all right. But when it was about it, me It was like it was like all with a structure that's like so it's like so it's like so much it's

it's just to make the things in a way very professional and serious. It's that's thank you for your projects.

Oh, no, much thanks, thanks. Well, the fact is that really is that really a time and also

I'm also that's about you're talking a story. So, so the fact, I'm actually, I've done,

I'm actually. I'm really about this part for no, but let me ourselves and the

area to the area a zone oscura, Riza me comment that you lived in a

house in the there's many events you can't talk about to get to

that's when when I did my mom says that we're going to

we're to get to and then the really was very so the only

option that we were this house that they had my and they

they're the intention to and I'm much so

maybe before my mom so really very much

time. And he called in the house maldita because never they've been

never they didn't they're there. They were just waiting or demoler and then the way

that they did it. And so it didn't they were not planned to get us.

But the other the business, it was like the the negotiation

and they're to be to be going to never. And the the

few times that had lived there, no durable in that

house. It was like that much, nobody would have been in the house maldita because all the

never never never, never never, never, never, or my abelos or someone had

lived there like to say, no, is that's things very very furs. But it's that my

primas mayores live there a little time because his mother had fallen and they

had fallen, They were going to live in the same place, but like they were to be able to live a time there's,

and when we're going to go to do that's, and my prima major, me said, I said, I said, no,

is that I'd tell me, it's that , and I'm, with more reason, count them. And then you, don't know, you're saying

all, well, I'm going to say, because they're going to be to be scared, and you guys me get many years,

and then there's there's much difference of someone in those 20s and someone of eight or nine, you know, I don't I don't say

no, I don't know I'm and tell me and me he said that there was a night in the night in the

she was in the and not very well that he has been but then it's and that

he says that's that's because it was a bathroom and then it was

the closet of the closet of the that the that's the that's the that

see a his mom and that she's super clear and that just like has even a

brief interaction with her and then then she's and that the house he was a little bit more

but but I was she was she was she was I don't I don't do you

when you see I don't I mean I'm not a parent you know I'm I'm sorry to be a

But I don't feel But I don't He said that in the house There are many things Raras

And I'm Oh, what I'm So, total, we're doing We're in this house

And it And it And it's And it And it And it had some I'm a

I'm You know You're to be to learn Or whatever Yeah So it

So it And it And sometimes We're And sometimes Or that

So that I'm decomponing the jugueet or what so it. But it was

a lot of a lot of and there was an occasion in the because for start

they were like a movie to make a little a there was a

we're a house very very very great but very very very big

and we had to make many many we're we're like while

there's a a comed a homeer and a a same time because it was a gigante.

And it had, in a bit of a window giant that was in a hardine. And it was much that of a couple of that were all over

and they were very feo, and it was very feo and it was a way, but that's an explanation of that if there

are some there are times that the birds, but it was much, I was doing like a movie of MED.

In one of those, we were doing carne asada in a terrain that was in a

And my my brother, my prima and I, we were little bit of three, we're not we're in

we're going to get to get to and then we're to get to my house, cruised, and you could be to enter to the

house too for that ventanal. So, we're going for the passio and it's

all over absolutely nobody in that house. And in that house only had my mother and

we'd just no we'd we're going and we And so it's the

light of the room and the room. And the three we're we're

we're doing and we get them first before before to get to the

garden, that we start you start you want to the person to see,

and so the garden at the top that was a

front with a so the silhou that was that

was direct to the part so it's a show of some

some show of I had I had I had put in the in the commedor

because it was a lot of this silhouette that like it was that was a little a little

like a little and we're a good and so what we did we're in back there there's a guy there

in the there's a car but they don't they're not found nothing

and when they're not they're we're doing we're going to we're we're not and we're

there there But also there was an occasion in the I mean, I'm in

many things, I'm not I'm not done with the header of the camera, and I'm I'm just

I'm going to go to be a and I'm going to see that there's a like on the like,

and then my cab was there and then I was like, so I'm so I'm so I'm

so I'm so I'm because was too was too was too had a little

that I was a year that was a manned because it was a little bit a new year and I'm my mother and I'm

the name of my brother of my brother that is like Renata and it's like it's and she has and I

say more more further that Renata and the that's my mom and me says here's

here, but from her but I'm so I I don't know I'm a I remember what

what happened what happened or how it assimil, but until the day, I don't know I'm able to

the way to be because I'm going to come to get to come back. Again, never put to get to do me like this.

Until the day of the day of the explorations, you have the idea of what occurred in that house?

If you, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, reanalises that there,

no, I don't see one, I think clearly there was a spirit that was infantil because

was around always always always my my toys. But I don't think it was the

unique that there I think it was something that was so I'm that it's

not a car to be the house. At the end of the only way that was the way that was

you can't get a but I think there there are energies that are that are

that are and that they're not they're not they want to get and I don't

think that only have this energy of this energy of a a little

I think there was more things. But now I'd have liked to know what is now

or could investigate now. And you took to know about a story of the story of the

story of the thing? I mean nobody said, it was like it's like oh,

well, well, yeah, and it's yeah, and the company more apart

of you did you did this other other I know to my Prima,

that's to be a person more, to the most, really, almost nobody who's, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. There's a, me, a me, really, when they're, here to come here to

and the stories that I'm prepared and they, they're, they're I've said, the family

nocturna, normally, I'm not I'm not I'm not to make to do what is what

we're to do you, I'm you're a story, that you're a certain, and it's

spelusnant. Like you, I've said to the people, the theme I like much, but

one is to let's it's realate and other is living it. When I'm going to

get to get to want to give to one of this. What he was this person, she was

a little, she had to ask to ask her to her to be a moma, that he

was actually. What what was what was the next. They've lived in a

house that is like of the abuelos, you can say, and they're very

very very, very upreted very, very apartos, and she has been like,

they've been, like, they're like, they're in the house of my tisies, that's there, no,

they're rendan, and it's and they're and they're in a new year, no, man, no,

my ha, no, you know, you know, she's about, she's when she's, when,

the adultente and the new that they're that they're that's things, and me said,

and me just just now of adult and now rememorando I think what's what I'm

going to that's so I'm I'm to ask and I'm saying in serious

you know you're not you know it's that we've we're we're we're

we're we're there we're we're we're we're not we're

not not four more more because yeah the she was she was I'm

on the passitos and was the movement in the car what

what occurs is that they're going to and they're going to be there's a whole of it's a

little bit of and they're they're not they're just they're just to get them that you know, that's

there's not there's got to get to be able to not happen and they're absolutely nothing and

they're when the people, they're they're not they're not they're really in a new year in a

bit more than a bit of the carterter and the camera and when the little bit of the room catteating out of the

obviously they were in the back down and the little was there was a little was out of the the other thing that's

and they were this little bit more still still even still even though still being advanced and when they're behind her to be to be to get

because she was going to happen to they're down in a door and the mother poor istito the garra the braza that's out and

say, no more. I don't know that's in this house, but really like, he's not

our attention and is taking the form or the identity of her. So, he said,

since that day, we've decided not to go back. We don't know about because we

have been too traumatos, but your tios have been never had been able to

rent that because time for times. Sure. Yes, I think,

I think, I think, I think, I think, there are places that are we're

we're like we're like places that are like places that that

facilitation or this point of encounter with the world spiritual or with

other other other other there's there there you're

you have you have so you sometimes to

you it's it it's accept that that's that's that's

I'm really the attention because I'm there's that there even if

even if has a object of a a new a new a new a

a thing with that conviving much that that that

that's when I'm in the stuff there's there's there there's

there I'm trying to do you see there there there is that

there there one that I had one I'm that they said that was a sort-jia of matrimonial and that

was the person so that's like what was said was that when the people had, that like, like, all your clothes amorosas,

they were, so that nobody you never, you never, you never, you know, if you had a

party, I was, you'd have because, you're casas'd problems. And I said, like,

I'm going to I'm going to but I'm going to I'm going to but I'm going to it's like I'm like, you know, one's that

one also one one wants to have a good life do you do it. I don't have seen that another way maybe somebody

yeah, but I'm seeing that you're like you're like this you, you're just you

then you then you're a piece that's that's all stuff that's came enbruchated

or so you you know okay, why a thing a new can

a for something specific without that's he had done a work that

it's for the experience that he had a person who was a person was a man

was a so I'm so I'm a new a new and it's a and then

your life and then you think it was a person that was like very very celos

and it's like not to be not to not even and I'm

and I think that all we all we're all the

there there there practickeemes or that practice all this thing of how

move your energy but also you're just you're saying that the power is that you're

things are to start something you have something you think we think we have more potential

yeah yeah we're we're more energy of the that we're that we're so that we

think you with much power or you have a personality very very very

very very important that you in the things and that for that the cases are that are those

people are in that people are in a lot of people who were even even were there. But is the place that more

frequent were in a place in a place because they're much of them all the question. I'm going to

what you're thinking, if you're trying to me are those horro cruxes? A bit of if there's

a little of that? Yeah, I'm I'm convinced that that that's I'm sure.

Okay, then let see this this is the we're going to that the person has a

similar to a spirit or an alma, that has a personality that's matisa for the emotions

that usually are the most make resources in the life day. And it can subdivide

and it can't get a person in different points? I think so,

not in the many, or not in a little in where you

you're you're you're to be a bit a bit a part of you.

But one, or so, you have taken to some experience in the you know, is that

it's a same entity of spirit human, in two points at the with two

matices different. It's that would be able that would have got to

have got to a two objects of the same exactly. And that I don't

have not I know, but I think that that's so I think

that's also there also there's there also have like aras

or essences One of the first I was I was reading a testimony of a a couple of that said

that were having many problems in their relation in their house and then they're in this

house in where another other partner had had had been a very good

and it's a little and they and they're they're they're doing they're

also and they're a good and it's that's we're making we're we're

we're we're on the things or the objects to we're we're

apegame much I'm totally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. If it's a

sense. Now, at a level, at level of your experience, we know this question to do you know,

a reason to be a realisa, a practice, or, uh, with great knowledge of a thing,

so it's, you know, and there's your or not, and there's people, we're, we're all, we're doing

your perspective, in torno a, is good to ferrarned, although are, to objects or is more not

not farraught to not mundan? I think that is difficult not aferrarn

to things but I think the more is not do it because I think

we we're we're to depend to things materiales for

our for our calm and I feel that the life is so

impregible that if if if the of a a

person is very common there's people that have some people that have some that's a but they're

they're not that if they're so I yeah so I'm so I'm you're farras

a lot that even after the you're you're you're you're you're

that you're you're you're that's enclating to not pass to what so I'm

so I'm so I'm super possible but I think that there's a lot that's there's things

that have been been in the case. There are religions, many religions, many

religions are contradises as one to the other, the dogma of the one is

antagonist of the other, but there is constant in all,

and just it's a connection to the questions materiales that

they they're they're not, disappegate. When I'm when I'm

start stories about of spirits human because I'm

there different types like entities spiritual those are

are more aferrised and that even the Japanese, some of those don't know

Jong Kai, that is when they're when they're in something more similar, something more more similar,

something more but it's like it's like you just like you don't see, it's like that's like,

it's also me made that, even when in their dogmatica not they're not being the same

things and if they're to attack at a level practical, the recommendations entricomillated are similar

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creensions and many practices and much practices that super so they're contradising. And, in, in many things of the magic, it's that if I did, I study this, is with a master super experimented that yeah, many years and you do things

like someone there's a lot you know, there's something like, it's all the there's a lot there's many ways to do

things, there's many there's not going to be two people that are the same, but even so I

agree with on you that there there's that that it's that it that's

that they're that's even of someone that even if someone that's maybe just it's

very a person to be able to something so it's is very very curious

I do so, I think that just we're just we're just we're a little and we're that we're

that we're we're just even even even in the people, even in the cases very, for example,

milagrosos of people that, no, your mother, that you know, you know,

you know, who knows, who's, who's I'm going to me, there was a piece of there,

you know, so, so, so, much to the things to this this

this this this great to be interesting, that's interesting just I'm

the topic of I'm a absolute ignorant, is a thing, it's a little

a little of here, a little of there I'm about with people that

about and I'm that I'm that the part of the part of the

painting much ritualistic of but that there's many there are many

more areas focused to diversas there's there's there's a story that's

very rare very, very eccentric because they know nothing about the burghiria

that occurred there but they they're they're they're that they that was

what he was a old said that's a little was a a person

and said no my my embe my abel was a

tremendous be a Bevedore, Mugheriago, aggressive, not was a person to

fiar. He said, it was horrible, but it was our horrible. So, so, so,

so, it was, and as a way, we had a care of a respect, but we

knew we're, we were, a guy, was a person, was a little that was

a man, that we don't know to have enough to have a woman, and a

day, come, to be to be to be we're we're going to separate or that if they were to go to some

other. And no, says when we got him was the old was always, he said, I want to say,

I want to give us to the things that I said in video and said, I was just being, like if

she was going to be a more weird. So, we asked, and the abelor no no

no, with the past of the months, we went we're that simply came a

day, and he said the woman, she said, she her, you know,

now if entered, I'm going to go to do. And then she he's asked, because she said, no,

me did you know, I'm doing a lot of, but I'm doing it, and then he's,

he's going to say that what he is to pay in all the that they because

not he to go to other side with the other side that he had,

the point is that the point is that the next two, three months, he's he's

to do the thing to people, ask them to give them to get but it's very rare.

In those two three months passed things things very strange. He started to lose the abel,

he started the view of moving, and for the month four or five a day yeah no I'll get

and he said he said, he said, no important to me, no me get to me to get them

to get them to get us well, the family I think that they're they're not of this

and they don't know in the way in that in the things, not are

people that's people who's in these things. So, so

they're on the question, and what I'm like the year, so the end of the

thing, nobody he was with a doctor, no, they're not,

so they was a thing, he was, he was he was he was

he he's he's six months after that the year

not the question, they're saying that in the house they're to

start to the sabanas where the abelial there's there. And it

starts one and other other and it's that you have seen in the

house in a case and the other is that in the area there's

in the moscas and so they say well we're because

it's a house very never have never has ever

have there never have been to something there had to

some there's how so how so no no

no didn't no didn't the family no, no, I don't,

he asked, you, how you know, you know, the, it's that, it's that,

it's that, you know, when we're when they're not in any kind of extraagerate of details.

For the form of the description, and I'm, I don't, I'm going, but it's the idea that

me gave them, like these families that are very, very, little, and that's just,

you know, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

I, It was bad. Yeah, I understand. I mean, I made the impression that the communication not was the example.

The old is the boy who says that is that they're imporando, in two patas you're going to you get to the IMS.

And they're and they said, no, we we've seen, and we've got to never did it and then we said, like,

from, like, from that's going to be able to that's one of that's on. Okay, oh,

that's bad, is that I totally, I think, I totally, I think, I've even I've

know people that is very, very, very sceptica that

me have said, there one one person no, I'm going to

want to get to this person. This person not

think nothing. It's a person more great and

there had a thing of a project and not

had not seen the things he and he said I'm

to say I'm to make a person no they is a

person very aceptic and he said, no you're not you're really good

for man bad at bad at when I know when I'm you know and he

and he really. And the project practically almost and I said,

this person no, I know doesn't of the brugery no cre

nothing, no care and so so I think I'm

there's our capacity canal our intentions and energies to

different things And there's people that, but, sometimes it's a way to something

or, or perjudic the health of someone. But I think there, I know, I'm,

I'm sure, of that there people that there's really good, who move this thing that we're

this thing that all necessarily, there's, they know, and so, and that's, because of,

it's been a matter a matter a lot, Lenta. A me It's sure, I mean,

I'm a way in the way I'm a pestry that an intention of a cause, that's

really, not, no, no, no, no, I'm a situation

like, a thing, but more more than, I'm, I think, I think,

for the type of decision that he was involved in things. Of, so,

the, to make that decision to care to be to be to be a change,

I'm, I'm, a reflection and a know I've known people

I know the thing of the energy I'm I'm going to the time of the magic and the time of the brugheria

no, I don't have any opinion in the respect because not are things that but the

thing of the energies at the life if it's a lot of a level theoretical and many things

that I'm not me make much sense because at final are things

very difficult to how you just a little and that I'm so it

is difficult but the point is that if I'm consta that there's invisible to our eyes that's

that's have to be a lot of some vivences with evidences we have with emotions that we're

we've seen many times that's a time that were a person that this this what I

say is if you're if you're not you know it's a story if you're a client

to me for a person had been a lot of good but it's something

not some not some people not are the lotteria and things like that's yeah yeah

I'm going to go to work a day before I'm I'm a I'm going to get to

when I'm when I'm when I'm not the work for that I'm doing the post

is something I'm not I've been the but because they have been a problem

with the earlier I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm planned to

various years I was I'm going to yeah, but no it was for the

I'm inaudit. It's, it's a little because in a business very good. No, there's a

way in the contract. No, I'm going to the profile. And I'm when I'm to get to the

years, it's the obvious. No, I don't have the capacity no. The things were not

accommodating. The person that could be the way to do you were the company,

they were to be their business, they were they were on, they're continuing,

continue, continue. But this person had something. They were a couple. But this person that is the one of the experiences, his aura, is that the, he was a bit of the hour's, too, you're talking to this person and you transmitted

a pass tremendous. Yeah. Aligia. Tranquilidad. And, and the situations difficult, and we're going, that in some moment, he lived, and for that I'm going, not this sort of

the book, uh, the movie, but a situation difficult,

and you see you the impact that could have to do it all the thing,

and they were these situations, accidents that they lived, that they said,

you're going to have a real two, in four months is a

perfectly well, and the doctor and I don't have no no idea,

I so, you you recuperates impress and and

you No, no, I know what happened. But not was that when when it was when it was a lot of

the accident, the energy was like very very cargated obviously in two, three days was in something

different for their mindset for his intentions and and it and affectable in the person and

her her partner and her let us say that was a rach very bad a

but mal a surprise they're they're they're they're they're

they're to be a pairha, she has different things, form of the life, he's, how she has

these changes, because it's something, it's, not it's a accident that thinks like, has seen that has been,

he has been, but she'll see, how it, but it can't do it, it's a way, so,

well, he's all this, they've been to, many years, these people that are there, the other

little, the other chick, the other chica to change, it's a suitor tremendous. Of a

the way in the work in the time. The rest of people are those people are not in a

way, not in a situation economic, but they're not in the people, they're going to the people around the

people. And one day, they're in the end of a little kind of and it's like a

little bit and it's something. It's a little bit of this chica and it's something to

get to me like if she's to be something. And it's And from And from

I'm trying To make Think about All my Gives, All me To give you A negative.

Well, a After of there, A sequence of Mala Suor And it's Like I'm Can't change. Well,

Tews to do a A ton of things. A lot of She She's not For that

I'm That's very strange Because it's Because it's No religious And

I'm No I don't know of that that I'm a mindset but now what you

is like that it's a energy that we've seen we've seen with the energies negative.

I'm at topo when they're living this situation and I had passed a time to know

and I know that's something that it's a really, that's a you know, you're

you're going to be you're going to be to tell a series of things that I

don't manches to do you do you do you a limpia. Yeah, we've

to do we do we come and we're in something. We said, no, you are in something like,

we're in a lot of this sake. So, this day, the day, the things had

been bad. I think it was a year and a year and all the things that you imagine

and you and a day, and I think that me pegs, I'm a oldia

of energy and something he's got to me that cause. From there to do

all day to do all right all revised the normality. Excellent. Suerte

the I see me I'm really like because I've heard I've seen

people that I've and even it's not you don't know they're

like that it is a little with your management with your and your

projection of that to do that I'm more or less well

I'm I'm just I think that for more that you

know you many I'm a much I'm a person

and he said just the same. No, he said, he was more, he was more

the more that we're more really a thing, so, he, he had in this that you

can't find you can't kind of, you know, we're not a situation,

and I said that he had a time, and I had to, you know, to give the

case, and he had different but he not he don't he

don't know decisions, executive grand, only, like, it was both-

- There were many, , there was recently in a one time I'm a lot of there was despidos massives and as he had to

give to give a car of the company, go to do, oh, well, is that we're going to

this area, pardon, adios, and so, that of a time, for a certain point,

all he was all, he was he was never, the project no, he was never, not,

never, no, I didn't, and that they recommended to a a woman that's in

a city of Mexico and that just he he said, hey, you know, he's

well, he's been he said he's not, he said, and then she he'd say in a

o'clock the things that I wanted that they were, clearas. And so

they're saying much at the hour that they're to come on your purposes,

that have to be in time present, clear, without and like she just

that's just done. And so the the sierra has a

limpia and she kept with the and she she'll explain that like all of

these people that he had been not necessarily affecting in a manner direct but being

kind of his courage to what was going to do despidos or

what he were they were they're they're they're they're he was

he he was he he called the he was he was to come

to be to do the no well then he said

the and that like all this resentment he was and he so it it's the end up

after a misfitable she does the she makes the thing but all the he got to

but all the thing he said he called and he did it was that's three things, that one was a

work that he said to say it's so that I mean me so it's something not it's

something not necessarily formal but we we're we're connected for these

energies and just our intention is more power to

that we we think we're you think those deities pagans in the Christianism and

in other religions manage the idea of God we're not not we're in questions dogmatical family there are

people who have people there are many of different types of God but you have the

credence in that exists apart of the ideas paganas something something or that

is like that's kind of I comment much that I me it costs

much I think you're just a little one thing. There's many things that I think I think in this

and I'm at the same time and they're and they're they're so you say you're

because we have been past I was talking about this on a stream of reencarnations or of

the people who start to say things that don't have three years and they

can't like still still they're so there's then then

that is there's there's there that's that's of that there something more

like a other more a second life. And I think in all the time because really

for more that you do you do you say, is that this is a science you know, this is that no there's,

you know, you're saying, you know, you're doing you know, yeah, I mean, I like to do

a opportunity to because no me like to see, and I don't like, I don't

like to create in absoluteos. Um, no I'm not to say

and this is no, because you know, because you're So, well, yes, I think there's a God and I think that there's a lot and it's a simulation. I mean, I feel that I'd love to give the opportunity to all.

Because, it's the world a little bit more interesting, the really. I'm the first person with the one that I'm the one that I feel, in the same mood in that aspect. In all the doors, I'm just, I'm going to, I'm just, there's ones in those that, I mean, this is a little bit more serrated by different situations. But,

well, there are many of these thematicas on the things in the there's not the problem not to start

it's not really to say, figgins to the life spiritual, function exactly this way. Sure,

and is that you know, and you know, dedu-do- it's a time, and you've been a result of,

no, then just no I'm just, I don't want to say, no, this is a tonteria and

not you think nothing, I don't, that because never so never so I always I

like to believe a little so I'm like this I'm not in this I'm not in this is

I'm I'm in was more than to learn about the budu and I learned a

really, because I had the idea that the boudoo was this that you have this is

this person and then you go to get to get this and he's going to get more, it's going to

and then really in the boudu you do you do you do you with an intention

more than almost to it's for the good for the you can buy a other you

you can't you can't you can't a moate you and you you

you have like your intentions. And the muke represent, it represents

to you. And I, I'm a new orleans for me. And it's a mechon of a

my chaville me and I'm the thing. I'm that I'm that's cool. Yeah.

But, but for example, I don't get to start doing magic budu

because it's me, and I don't know I'm not really to be

to be to be to be to be to be not, so, no, no is for

example in that, also, also, all what is the thing of the religion Yoruba or Santria,

no is my, no, I'm not me met. Because, I think, are things that you have to do you

know, then if someone came and me and say, okay, a bit, so you come back,

you're doing, you know, but it's a version like, amistosa for a family,

right? No, I'm met really really really right. Now, yeah, I feel

that are things that they have done, and that I'm I'm, and that's For me,

I prefer no, not to end up there. What, what is invoked? Well,

let's be, for example, I'm going to so much times when I go the circle magical to make a

chisor or communication, I like much to play to the Uyha is very but I

like much so, for example, there you invocas deities. Ultimately, I'm studying

for example, demonology. I'm not I'm still still still studying, but I like to

learn, and there many things that we have this idea of that they're in

a certain way, so that's that's a demonio or so, no, I know,

I mean, I'm done, I'm doing, but you're in theory, but you you could

use certain demons to do to do that I'm not, for example,

invokar X to the demonio for that you're to go to

a, I know, a, you know, a place, be an invisible, we,

say, and some things that I know because I don't know I'm not, I don't know

of the thing, so I'm in classes learning, and so but I'm but I

know, I mean, I'm, I'm trying to not metterm with what I'm

into the demonology is a grand theme. It's the very rare, very complex Yeah,

yes, yeah, it has, it, for me is a thing in that

I'm manho with much pinces of this question or just the question

that's the question that's the possessions there are things I think in the world human

with things of the day to use and that you say, okay, the all the

costum these consequences. So, so I see what something that you're saying

okay, one one of every one of every one of I'm in I'm

not a interest that that question a level practical but

the theory is very interesting is what you are

there And depending the the retient is the enfoke that they're

about the end up and I'm saying I'm saying the first of the version that's reading or

being from the occultism and from probably satanism it's more like the the occultism

no we've been I'm saying but I'm not saying I'm saying not mentioned so much

not not much not no no no no that's no no no this

because I'm because I'm she's a because she's a EKate, then we're we're starting, I don't know

so much, but I thought that I was going to be a little more linear to study. And no. No,

is that just when I do, oh, well, this maestra has done classes of other things, of rams of

of the line that I, well, I can, I can practice, and then I, I've learned much, and I'm

to, I'm, I, I, I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to

enter, and I'm, I'm trying, I'm, also, I mean, de a moment, these are the

rules, and then I'll leo other book, and then they're a perspective completely different, that's very difficult. That's like much

information. Really, I think that no is something that I would be to give a answer in this moment, because

I'm going to start, those are, three mecesites and you're just about in this, that,

that's interesting. It's just not I was to be able to be able to be able to have a

notion, because I think that many times when I'm going to my

investigations me they're in so it's a demon you think you're going to be a

I'm I'm not I'm not I'm don't know to have a minimum a notion

of when me when I'm when it is related to do my investigations

I don't go to go to go so it's much it's

very complicated no I don't I don't say and I don't say and there's

because in the one me something something something something

and I try to to learn but it's difficult but I'm going but I'm going to interesting is that just I think in the

thing of magic for the topic about the magic, and energies and all this question, the more information you think you

better you're better than you because you topas with that I don't know that what they're

doing that's doing is a not doing and I'm saying it's instantly I'm in a new thing you

when you're when you're if you're more you're just that there are people that were of the

same ram and you say, no, Cueado with this, no, do you do you get to try to say all what you think

that is the sequence like organica for the thing. It's super interesting and that's great that you're planning

to do you start. So, it's that's that I'm interested. I'm interested. And it's very interesting.

The master does very very well, but I'm still still no, but I thought I think I was

something to this is so this is so this is so and then this is so you oh, it's

much. So I that it's something to study, and know the people that know the time

the fact that my respect because I'm doing to say, but I'm going to be able to get a seeer you know,

completely lost especially because it's much of, here they're that the house is embruh for a demonio

and not me like I want to be in seros, but well there's going to be a way,

I'm going to maybe after maybe after yeah, I'm after some after you did something,

you did you did it, I did did that when they did when they were to do the exploration

of the Casa of the Conjura, you did the amuletos of protection for each one of the people. In that amulet of protection, the

magic that was a magic black? Yes. Okay. You occurred that after the instance,

because I'm understanding that you're doing to get to a certain way, I'm doing well? Well, a little

so, eh? Yes. How you see from how you to get to energy, emotions,

after having been to have been been a couple of days in the house of Noche entire,

for what I think I'm how you how you're how you're how much you're in it's

it's my favorite in the world I mean I'm really when I'm when I'm know how

I'm a person that I don't say that I don't say I'm always I'm always always I'm

always a little a person that needs siestit that he like you like you

love sal that try but you you put in a you put to be

hours of the of course I'm energy no back. I mean I'm

really. I'm just like my call. I don't know but I really really.

You know, I mean did not aterrador? Yes. But that me really.

The adrenaline. Yeah. And, and also, the fact that if is going to something

is just what I want to try, that I'm so I'm really, I'm feeling that's like

when you when you're doing a thing, yes, the theory is so,

I'm I'm not I'm doing to what I'm going to do you know what I'm

more complete, like I'm doing my call to do my name this I'm trying to try this we're doing.

We're going to do you know do you? All the what I'm doing to do you know top three

of things that are the most you don't know my top one is the cannibalism well

well well that what's that's that you sensata you're

that's not a man one never never um but

I'm I'm think I'm so it's it's it's it's

the real um but but but then and I

am I'm a fear um the and the the

the I'm the cannibalism is number one that then

then then I think what I more more

more is the obscurity, because no, I don't know to be, I don't that

that something can be being in you're and you don't know you're not you

know. In the the case of the conjuro just, the guide that we received,

us what I know, what I recommend is, because they're

there's many recommendations of things that and they have

they're to have they're to get in the in the

in the obscurity just we had the camera that it's

that you know that you do you that you know that I'm I'm

I'm I'm took it I'm I'm the so I'm so

yeah my really is that my really does I'm really to do you to make

to this to this person we're going to and you do no for

a favor no yeah of for the video and for the content and it's to do. It's good. It's good.

But, the obscurity me do and I'm and I think just topar me with a

entity demoniac and, well, I know what I'm what I just I'm

just that's also I'm really much fear because I'm

that's I'm getting that my abilities or the

things that I The fact of having, like, I've done these amuletos of protection and have been

to have gone to have gone to be in a time, or that's, or that's like, this was too

was too was a strong, well, at the end, after the when you're to go to

New York, we're not, we're all, we're only we're all we're all so, so I'm done

so I'm so I'm very very happy, the real, I'm very and emotional. Yes, okay,

let's let's are the events you know you're eight years

in the creation of the creation of because you did you do you do you

do that time totally paranormal explorations and five years five five what's what's

been the five events more that's that's the stories

that you have talked that you have told and this has this has

been my top oh I think a one an that

I'm going to forget was when we went to the hospital psychiatric at the Penhurst

asylum that's that's that what has been a great investigation

that because a difference of the house of the

when you didn't you there was there there that you were to

that you or like to ask to a when

we we went to the penhors that they have

one of the places most endurojured of the world, if you were the

way that's that you're not a or I'm a much resentment of his life. And is that

there was many things very fas. It was a hospital in where they had a

patient very bad and they were there there because really

they're really to get to the hospital psychiatric for whatever because

it's a hospital psychiatric and there they they'd to be

a point where they had to the the same patients who are the patients and they're

paying to those patients and they're in a lot of the people are very really enoched to be there. And when

we're not we're not you're not an tour, they'll have the opportunity to go to do like a

little bit of your people, so they're they're going to you're not saying, like, here's

you're doing a question to do you're to do that. Entra and see, only, only be,

you're going to you're to be able to hear you, and it's we'll find us. So, then you

in that occasion that was when my brother, for the first first time that my mother not really and it's interesting

but she not is creient. That time that she was she was that I'm going to smallar

of the fear and I'm going to I'm trying that was of the moments most top for me

in quite something something because I don't I thought that my her man's

assusatara. And it's that it's a lot. So, that were the doors that were

and that you're going to and then you're not there's and then in these places of the contract on

where they're to do you are you to get a to get to get us you're you're

you're so you're that you're something they're a thing you because there there's

in a case there's so much it I'm or, or parades that you'd be you

saw it, or we're a spirit box, that is to communicate with with spiritus, and that

not pesk because we're in the middle in the buska, but of a thing, like,

well, welcome, and so, for me, was a very very and if is the

very important of my life, especially because never me had happened that my

person, was was sure was stored for something, and just when we

said, she said, that now his perception has changed, that no he's

that in all the other there there's there there there

there in the where there something like a error in the reality

or a portal so for me the experience of Penhurst

is very up um also also there there

one one one that I I'm a poste

and this quadro I I tried to not say to my friends of

the society of the past that I'm that I'm that you could be not I'm

sogisternaring so I'm so I'm and then it's going to talk about what you so you

that you talked about that someone you saw that someone he sangro the nose and all the

thing but passed something something in the night that is we were

we're we're doing the investigation and my my brother, you had to

do to do with to do know. And of I'm going to get to be to the same

and I'm going and I'm doing the saying, I'm going to hear of the person. I think my

woman's and you got to be so I'm so I'm so you know, and like we

have seen that we've heard that someone have been doing not even of us I'm not

I'm I'm I'm still and I said, Reney Vino my

my brother but we we're we're sat down very just of the

quadroar so is well inbruged and the and the reprower

and then he's and we're we're and we're we're because we know,

we're not and she's I'm just I'm just I was I was yeah I'm

and I'm he said and me he said me he and me he said and

my her man was with us to be we've we've had been

someone of the people and no but but the interesting is that we had been trying to do make a communication

with what possibly was the spirit who was in the picture and my mother had promiseded that was going to get to start

the communication in that moment to continue with the video and try to try with other things so it was no, no

I want to do that communication and my woman says if you promise that I'll go to the I'll go

I'm going to go right? Yes, well no it was not so it's like something

that something that was about and that us surprised much

it's super interesting that's you think in these relations that are

like people legalists between some some different some you know

you you you do you do to come because for they're

very important or it's a type of you need to do you think you don't do you do you

don't make because if if I think that if they're to take

something, I think if you, you're you say, you're saying, you're more,

I think this in the religions like the Catholicism, that's, I said, I said, I'm going to

do that to get a money to the church of this saint or something, I'm

I'm, I'm going to say, you're going to have to have been to go to you.

If you you're you're going to say, You say, if you do this favor, you promise this and not you do do this, if you can even

try you to make a bad suerty or that is enbrujado or something, because you did you did you do a question and

you have to do this type of accuards, you have seen out of questions of entities

oscuras, you have seen with some type of entity that not is that if you don't

do you have a retaliation, or like a kind of something of something of something of

something of something of something of something of something of well, I'm sure that someone

is a lot of but in this moment I'm not not so fresh but I'm fresh but I'm but I'm just in spiritus

if we've said that we're going to that the spirit that is a spirit that's a spirit that's a and it's a phantasm

amable if not you know you're going like in this case of the quadro just so

so then so I'm so I'm just so your power has more power has more than many things they say,

that when you're dealing with with spirits, that your car is that's inbruched

or something that you know you know that's how you have you know,

that if you go back so that you do, oh, no, for favor, pardon, that if

is something that is a thing, they're going with energy, like, like, alpha,

not with a lack of respect, but with authority, in where this, this,

then I'm, so, then I think that your words, and your a word of person

is more than what a way of what a sometimes we're going to get a Riza

of your top five are then the one in this hospital psychiatric what would

be the third of these situations that's that's that's that's

that's that's that's I think that the thing that was the first

that many that many my people went to with

the people they're they're I I'm I'm I

And it's like, look, what I'm what I'm trying now for the collection. And I think were used to be in an environment controlled,

let me because they're in my department, for example. But this this time we those we've to other

other side, and for the my brother and my my brother and my friend and I and I,

the three we're the three, we're, the three, we're all that this time, that all us he's going to

get a extra, that I'm going to agree, and, there's something

there's something what happened, and is that they're not fined nothing. Nothing.

You have to try in the house of the conjure that what you're saying, so they're they're going to

the cameras of security and so if you know, you know, you know, it's a question,

and you're to be a minding, that's not you're saying cordalo. No, there's

they're going to use to do it. Yeah, they're they're trying to try they're

they're yeah. Yeah, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, We said that they can't do they can't do they're in

their wichas, not put in not put in not to try to do you know and they're not,

and there's like, well you've done to know what you're to do you know, we need to

make the video and then you know, I'm going to pay more money that you have paid me paid him we're not

we're not we're not even we're but there there was a moment very bad

that me that I'm that one of my of my friends of the society that's

called Cloud some steps on the top. And he's under

the matter and he's and he's oh, wow, what I'm so, so it's

so it's really so they're in the house of the house of the well,

we're at the video, it was a phone we don't know with the thing we're we're

going to check the camera of security to to come to find out to come

that you and they're saying okay, it's not okay, it's I would like,

I'd because I'd like to all the communication us about you're like this

because they're like this and this for your investigation, for what they're documenting, uh,

and I'm like this and there's much this, that's much so, if it took in serious the

the investigations. And we said, that check the cameras in that moment, the second

piece and that just the court, it was, in that same hour in this moment,

like it's kind of oh, yeah regar so. And we're very interesting. So, then you can't include this on the video if want. So I think that the house of the conjure also, obviously. It's

very good. Wush, a be, others two, right? How to how to go ahead? Well, I'll go ahead. Well, I'll go ahead. This society of the pesadias, I think in some moment, I've got to invite here because

they've had taken your experience, but in parallel. Every one, as well, in this house of the conjure, that those divided every who's a part of the pastel

yeah, yeah, I think that they'd like that's because just, I mean,

there's some some more people who's some more more than other who's that's

that's so, so there's so there so there and it's very good like

experimented this with people who yeah practically are family right and it

really kind of scududu we we're we're we're we

mystery to the order I'm I think another that would be very interesting that is a case that

I don't understand very much is the case of the first mocha that I'm that's called something

something when I do this change to the content of terror well of my very

really bad because all all all all over and so I'm doing

doing the I'm doing the thing all about all upuntable to that not going to

work total, I'm a Blankita and that video he's super good, so it's a real realize

it's all the whole to be the same, I'm going to get the salt to yeah, to have to get a lot of

building on that's and then I mean they say that I'm not my objectos

in this house, now I'm now I'm live solo so my house she's in the Kna

Rachita of good suites more than kind of economic and in opportunities and I'm that's

interesting. So I'm Knewk to do you could be a new a muneka like a

good luck but I had been recuperer total, I'm I have this theory

of that there's a very curious that's like you do the good the

mollpes of the so you don't necessarily you need favors and that whatever

whatever you can do a like that you have and then we'll do this investigation and

and then there's no way no way there's a but he'll come my theory so it's like he'll get to the answer if

if it's certain and I said yeah it's a work because the story of the is that's looking the love of her

and that that's a point that's a point that's a lot of it's difficult right there's little bit yeah it's

yeah it's yeah it's just you know you can't you can't curious, but the two times that he

took contact with Blankita, the two times he took a ratch that they they'd have a money, but they're not,

they're like, they're a great, and it was a lot of that's a very strange. And just they have passed

various times that we do we do we say, we'll let's interchambe for an prender.

So I'm I'm going putting prenderers but it's very rare because even people who get

like, oh, a very, if it's if it's if it's has, if they're like

their a goal of suitor. So it's like the theme of Belanquita still we're going

because it's rarest that you do give a good at the time. We know what that's the

thing that day of that's been in bruched? Passing things in your house? I don't say

that's unbruchated but there's those those objects and then

there's all the time not all the time active so I know I think that

I'm that I'm think there's there's there's there there's

there there's there many there many year in where they're

tranquillus they're doing, you're there's a time in the year where they're

on the year and they're just they're to get to get some or they're they're they're not

they're they're they're all they're in a place because she she's

she has she got a new but all the other people are all the

other you're sometimes if you're that they're in the is in they're

in certain they're just of that no see, it's a

light, mysteriously and they're to hear to get to things but they're not all the

time. And then I have my ways to my ways to make, all the all right,

all right, but there's my objects. What is the object that's the object

too little to decide? A very difficult. I think the more popular that when it has been presented

something that's this man name a Sam. A people like a

me does fear. It's got very uncerated to be a a little

in the house so far so far and they're going to things and the

vibrates and that is energy rare and the actually one we

know I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm

a I'm I'm to do a presentation to do my book and

I'm going to so I'm amarraved in the closet out of a lot of a lot of someone,

no, I don't know who I'm someone who, I'm going to that he was he was very incomod, and I was there and had to be

and I'm that's a weird, but this is a idea that is a person, but for some of the

most popular. To all the people are the most they're the more they're in the associated

in the people, and so you do you like the people like the that he if you

you get you you're in you're in you're in things negative. Not of that you're not

you're probably you're going to have seen a voice, they're getting a thing, I'm sure,

I'm sure that I'm going to what you know, it's the what you're he said to super embruched but he's

in the society of the pesadillas then. Oh, well. He's a lot. He's addicted but he

he doesn't. Very well let's see there. There are two perspectives in torno to the objects

obviously is this part paraphernalica of that way it's very very interesting apart of the history of the

story of the person sensible a question like a question like energy of the things and

things and so much I don't I don't say I don't say I can't say I'm but I'm

I'm a little of a good perception yeah in that perception if that was

that was your medidore of all the objects, what is the is the is the

of the I'm, I'm, I'm a yeah, and also because there something

there's a thing that's a little that she has got when someone will be more,

like that she's very that's not that's a thing, she's a thing, she has a

she has a she has a little bit and he doesn't do that to be

with this. And she is very atinata in that just like, like you can

when someone is like, if you see you know, if you're going to be going to be nothing,

and that person that's a person that's going to and then has a person or the mascot's of someone who

see, get to check because, I mean, I'm going to get to so, so, so,

then she's very thing, it's super-percied energyas, and I'm surprised you really to I'm invited to my

department, me had to to guard the objects posited, and me I said, I don't

never put never in at the reds in where they were. But she goes, and she gets, and me says, you know, my objects posseous, and me says, there's something that's something that has,

like, something, it's like, a sombrero negris. And the muke of the matrilogue has a little bit of the energy more fair. And it's a story? Yes. No, we know we know who is or what

What happened? But when I bought, the duena, what said was that this muke was in the house of the papas of her in the States and the parents of them were all overused. She was also very grand. She was also very great.

And she said that one of her two, threeas, not so, a familyar, was going to clean the house to see what they'd have to the family, to see what they'd be able to donate, things, for the style, no? And that one of those she's

different things and this woman had a vintas in the United

and he's like I'm so he he's various things and then this

this muke but not they're they're and they're because the not they're

not something that they're that they're that's that's rare who knows

that this man he's but but well it he's

he's put in the business on the money and it's He said that his perritte always

like to ladra at the door that's the car that's a weird, who's really, who's got to my perritor's

is putting like very very answer, who's not? Very rare, no? So, she she

see that nobody can't the money can't and they're going to get to things,

and something that's not that he said, is that she said that in one occasion opened the

door of the cochera when her her little was a person clear

to the muneco to be a question and I said, like, what was doing? What was

what was what you? He said, he said, he said, he was posseid or something,

that, if I'm a real he said, a person that was a person who knew of

communications, that's that's not the name Sam, if no me I'm and that

he put to the vent but now a a man a new a posseid

and that maybe nobody he was probably he was probably yeah,

so so so I've so it's so much times the people get to do the people get to do you want to

say they're going to you're going to you know you have you know you know I do you ask you do something and what you

do more you or someone to say yeah no I don't again no I don't know and then it

and then now is to come me and I'm that is the most of energy negative

Raisa what is the one of your experiences yeah to start

have you had the number one that's the that's the that's the top five I'm going going to the first

final. Ah, well, what would would be the less then? I'm

but what you did you? It's all the way it's it's too we're we're not

we're we're we're a turn of a interesting but no could

say there was a wait, oh, oh, wait, oh,

yeah we're yeah we're we're we're we're we're

we're this same tour of this historian and we was telling that there was, to start, it was something

really rare because he had like this thing so that's super attenado to what he said. For example, we were all

all right and we're all person, and see a someone who's and see a he's like to get a

back, you're back, you're going to this place and you're going to see here, but not we're going to

you, we're going to be the person, you know, and then you're going to, you know, but you're going to be able to get a but you know what's going to be able to be able to bellow. it's like, yeah, and it's going to be able to do you. It's not, but

all of the of the brujas not were bruchas were much people, a lot of women were

women who were people, they were not much bad-bursed and so she was she was the owner

of this like hotel a can't posada and then and then they inquisian

and so but that something is that she had she had uh arvules

of manzana and they were they're not they're when the people that said

that I said I said I'm sure that's that's not you see a matter of the total

we're doing we're doing we're we're going to come back to you want to go what we're

and we're going to we're going to we're back we're and then my

my brother my mom a manana and it and it's so you but yeah not we're

not done the tour we've been we're a a place normal, you know,

there's a little bit of a world of mansannes or not, no there's nothing of food or the

place, the place was all the thing, and it was a lot of a mansana as well,

like, so who's, so, so it's so it's so much, so much, that's

there, there, there's, one of the things that more I'm more more, the demonology,

that, well, dentro of the demonology Christiana, because there other approximations, as we've

said, that those spirits are properly spiritual and that the form physical that they take is the that they're the decision to

depend on the purpose, depending of the type of relation that they're able to make a people, they're not of

demons that are like something similar to an animal, they're they're just they're simply sombras.

So there's there's like different approximations because it's that in some cases the form

physical simply and it's nothing more for the purpose of the interaction. Well,

what would if you're to be present as you're like a form positive and when what chica has a

newio. And this novio has a second two years that he started to

present to present to do you know to be in other people not inferme diseases, but

the problems and they put them people who were in a very bad day,

trai not a car those many and they put these people

super a little he had seen with people who never had

seen and he said things and he he said he said he says he's

that I'm an angel that's saying what he says he says he says

he says he says he says the things that are super attinadas and has to be

that he can't be that he says no there's there's there's directly

as this she's doing with him in the room, she

he's in the madugada and be there a sombre in the room in the

room in a place to get a little and he's he's he's

he's he's he's a idea, he's I'm not a real that's

really a he's he does it does that he says he's a really, I'm just

I'm a thing that he's a thing that's that's all he's from there it's a

very extrano as a particular that's a lot of a person more

things when he he's not in some he's not if he he's

he gets dormied with the eyes if you start to the camera

and he starts to say now he's now now he's

sitting in this and he's he's like he's he's

he's he's he's he's he's of what you're talking? He not

has been conscious of those events. The other situation is that if he's a little

eyes abjointed and it's a phenomenon totally different. With the eyes about the respiration

is not and in that respiration profound that's doing, he's going to say the day of

the day of the time, and you to say things of the future to be people

certainas or people lehanas but you're you're you

you'll hear what he says. The problem surge, where I'm a situation that my situation that is a very

very, the house is a very, no is a very, there's a thing,

no, there's a other, but with those I'm, I'm, but my

nobue he's to say that he can't be able to be and I

have been people that have been people, he has done to have

been to try because for all he was saying that

have people and he he's to expulsar and if the person is it's a

person's, the problem is that he says, the name Lucifer, in the name of

Satanas, and he starts demonies, he's, I think I think he he's a

angel, is an angel and he is a person, he's not he's not the

person, I don't have a thing, because I feel I'm so much

I'm so much, so that this situation he's living I think that this

is in Panama and is strong. Wow, it's good so

good issue in the story. It's that you talk about this is this is a

lot of the thing you know, it's a thing, there's there's a more,

there's not so I think that I think that's more part of the life

of what we're because for there's there people who these experiences

and these things I think they're they're like, no, it's

this is rare or no it the world and then the world spiritual, you know, so it's part of

us, but that's really, I think that a sometimes oscuro not is synonym

of maligno. A bit, so, so I think could be that it would be a idea

that's a but that not necessarily be looking to make to make a lot that's

that's looking to help us in things or to do it. I think if

we use is an synonym of maligno and not necessarily but the truth is that never had ever seen something someone who's someone who says the future well if I'm to talk about cases of persons that prophesan

my grand doubt is in the religions this exists and they're called so where a don't of prophecy my doubt was a few I've heard that someone when the people start to manifest that type of dones in which they're in languages the language

the Cenoglosia, and they're to manifest revelations of future to the people or in events,

that normally depends the institution, but they're that this not they know. They're

they're they're like, I'm going, I'm going to say, and me they're saying,

is that sometimes those dones are contaminated. And what the person to be relevant,

to be reveling, not you to get to your bestructs, then it to get to

your destruction. So it's like an form of orienting, like to your destiny

for doing that you're doing you're doing you're in doing this way. It's very thinking about the thing.

You know, you're doing the don't of the same and it's a word to go to me not

like the things to be polarized and then the dark is a malo and blacko is

good. But we're we're we're the version malignant

of the sonation and the version benign of the sonation. Existe the prophecy malignant and benign. There's also the don't of the languages of maligno and

benignos. Existens, like the lecture of the spirit, maligno and so that's so it's very

loco, it's like, it's like to have some power and say if you do you do you do you

do you have been? You have heard of this? Is that I mean, I mean, I mean,

I mean, I'm, And, well, , she's a master, he gave to that's what you get to that's what you're going to be, that's what I mean to say,

because I mean I was, I don't have a don't, but I imagineable that would be something like it's a thing, like a signal. Oh, no, we have a lot we, we, we're talking about. We have a pletka pendent. That's, every every time

that they talk of voices, I'm a lot of a series that I've known to be

a person and they're very bad. Never me had to happen one that I'm not and feo,

feo, feo, then the people, because the stories that are this, I'm saying,

that's the I'm a patch in, in, I don't have to know how much to be

not any to prove that's that's in those are so they're horrible what they're in

serious? Yes, yes, Yes, yes, I'll tell you. We'll understand. We'll understand. We don't, it's just,

I've talked to someone who's just, I'm talking about something. Exactly. Existing the hallucination

auditive. I can't be listening and simply my brain with a more functional

but if the things that I'm to start and they're to start and not is something

I'm that I'm there's a did this, I'm no, no, and no, and

I dood that I'm to know to know to know to know you know so,

you know to do you know if you do you know that's you know that's not you know

in the yeah, I'm doing so you know yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.

You know, have read a Patrick Ruthus with the name of the name of the same

I'm sure I'm not I've seen but no I'm there's there yeah

yeah the time the time the time you know is a that

is a there there and all, close to five kilometers, all what get to talk

there, there's a group of people who do you're because whatever that's

that's a new, and he's a contact with it, he's he's going to

and he's going to do you and this the future. My creencia

is that Patrick Ruthful what he did was things that essentially that are

based on magic chaos, he's he was he was and it and

that's in special I think that is based experiences. And of

and of that person who put that name but I think is based on something. Then I think Chagro,

it's super interesting. It's not. Of course, to make it to do you know, muchism

you know, a lot of the community that's a good creator of content, influencer,

Camino Magico. Apart, you're with questions of books, but also

you're a front of a group, you're involved to your family in this. I

would be a little at the time in the RELOW? Yes. And that's

who was a Riza before this so, how you know, how you do you, you're doing you,

because at day of the day of the whole of the universe, no? Well, to be a little,

um, I'm, I'm a new, um, well, we're, let's,

what I say my parents, the fact, um, like, I've been a new that just,

he used much the stories. I'd like much to read, I'd like much to write, I'd write about my

story about my mother, I'd and I'd enjoy much things maybe a more eccentric,

is that my family like the really likes much the thing of the paranormal, various

times I've talked to my followers of that I had had a tia that casas for

matter vampires. I did my mini-investigations planarming with my prima and my mother, all without, without, in the house

and so we're very little little. And I liked much a lot of what was to investigate, but also

like, but also, like, and it was a little costed much to make friends,

the fact, no, I'm not, and it's very curious because now I'm really really,

but it was a little too a little bit to connectar. And then I don't know, like

all the express about to express about to do things artisticas that just about my time for my

mother and then and then I went to get into a reds through the because as I said I

like I really and when someone has been that you is a probable that's

probably to hear to a hour maybe 40 minutes of the book that you

what I was connect to someone that was to learn the same that I

for we could be like fans together. But to me just the thing of the paranormal always me always.

So, that's, that's, that's, something of me. And I came a moment

in where I want to do this change in my content and I want to start to do

investigations paranormales and I want to let me in this world that I was

that I didn't how to come to how to start, I was

just of no I don't know, persons that I'm going to go back or go to go to work out of

not not so creators but more programs of television, like ghost hunters international and so.

How do you? And you're well, but how you start? And there a time that always

I had interested that's the thing of the two pieces posseidos. So,

so I said, I'm going to buy a one new a newke for internet and I

do the thing and I felt like like I felt like wow this is

my my my, my, the place, at the first,

it was not a transition, because there many people that said, no, now,

you're you're going, you're there's even many some people, and they were to

work to me, it was a change difficult. And so me was at

this point, I said, I was at this point, I was to it, but not were what was

more than in my content. But I felt I'm, I'm And I knew that there

much people that like too like me. So, I decided to keep,

continue, keep uphating, and create the contenting the contenting that more me made and I feel

more free. My her man has always been on the things of terror and all what

I do do you know, and then she said, we're going to be going to see this, obviously

there's there's there there's people that there there are there's a different

that you, and we're a risk, the really, because if at the initial,

I felt like I'm much, I did it I'm in the way, you know, there's

a manachment that I'm saying, and I'm saying, because you're doing this, um, unfortunately,

the equipment that's the moment, and it's much for where I'm and he does a

much what I do and do all for, for moving my projects and make those every

more different, but in this moment I'm I'm much fear of what what's

what I'm going to and maybe I'm doing the things that I'm not going to not in

quite to get me with things but I'm the rethacy of the people pleaser

so I'm so it so it doesn't work when someone always

it's like I don't I want you I want to care you

so so that's that was a great part for me

but just there there there there people there

this curiosity this curiosity for, well, those histories mysteriouses.

There's many times. I think it is naturalness human to have an interest in what paranormal and what's

what's going to do you know. Even the more skeptical it will be with with with entertainment, it can be

something, you know, it's a person, I think a whole world like a one of a

time we're talking about a documentary and how Walt wanted to a force to have a house of

a house of of things curious. I think at the final of the day the museum not is not a lot of people who's

a lot of people that was to get in that documental and my brother we saw it like a lot of that's a fact that's true

to the people who we do that we postable to this after the after the society of the

pesadillas that is my group of people who also that also also parted my

personal and me come back and then we've been we've been getting to and the people were doing

the content. And I'm very very grateful for the audience that me see, that both those who were new ones were getting

and that, they've been created in me. And then, and then you, so you're going to you're going to do Monterrey?

Of all the life? Of the okay. I've noted when I've got a contact with people of

other states, that's characterizes much the modus vivendi of the area and you see plasmased

in the person and a very And there were other niches that you could call attention. Or was the only the one of the

one that's is that there's is that there's a very good question. I think I think

I think I felt that I could offer more in the niche of the terror. I think just is my

great passion but also there was something there was something that I think I think my

my way to more, more more when you're ancianita and no

you can continue doing videos and that's really you never be able to be something

that's I'm always I'm going to two books published and what I want

I'm what I write and what I think I'm I think I'm

I'm not doesn't make content that then I then I'm

going to so I'm more so I'm something I really really really really really

I want to that all want to do the hand. I'm that's a way to who's

I'm really, so that I'm going to know, I'm going to buy a new table

to work and so I'm so I'm not going to show who I'm not doing that's

that just the people should be to be to be because then you're doing,

ah, you're you're all things and libraries that are very, you know, family

friendly or or what yeah, and then then you're to do see, in a in vivo and it's

to, we're going to invoke spectros. It's like, it's like, it's like it's a

thing. So I'm that I'm a lot of me, it's something that really a thing that's I'm more

to offer. Perfect. And then, and we know, and we know, the fact,

yeah, excellent, or the content, well, so the content, it's tremendous.

Of the all the terror, that has been many forms in those that's can be

about riskosas, that are the explorations. Yes. Because it was that's called, having more

areas. And especially that you're thinking you're doing, I'm going to do you execute the question of the

books and you've been and you're very much of your own. Just I'd think, if I'm,

if I'd think, if I would say, she'd be like a storyteller all the time. And so,

but the part of the explorations has been a great appust of your part. Because?

Is that not to get me with the curiosity. I'm a person very curious, always that

something comes to how is this, I'm going to investigate much and I don't like that me it's going to go and be

for me myself. Also, that I want to find these things, that are like these

proofs that there's also to to be a little. When I was a little,

there was a period in my life in where I was in a house, in

where were many people, and I had spelous and I was convinced

of that there were phantasmas in that house and there and there there was a

lot of people who nobody me creed in my mom was like, but at meh

my father is super eceptic and my papas my dad didn't even my dad I've been

this thing that I want to not so, so it's that's true me, I'm still more,

I'm still I'm going to be able to the rest of the world have like these

problems, because I think the people that are the people who are very solas for the same is of the

if I'm going to think I'm going to maybe I'm going to maybe it maybe I'm but at the time I'm

so I'm there's a and there and there's so I think that's more to know this this problem

and not want to I'm not that someone I'm going to say to yeah it and I'm this idea to

get to this idea of of the legend, where you hear you, the story, that I know that is the is the genete

without, I'm a so I'm, then I'm to go to the point of the genet without,

or that I know, that they're that's the is the unneekas, this, and I'm

to the is the one of the muckus and I just there, and it's there, and it's,

I'm, I don't know, I'm just to get me with the curiosity, I'm here

I'm just I'm just I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, experiment I. Okay. Your family

like the terror? When you you refer to that he does it? They're just the movies of terror, the spectacle relational to terror or they like the world of occultism, the magic, and all of that. No, they're in entertainment. The entertainment. Yeah, I am the first that's for the

side of, well, magic and all of that. Ah, okay. The magic in the time that you entered, what was what you called, to the camp of the magic? The same that the explorations? Do you know, the explorations. You know

more or there other type of connection? I think

that in quite a magic was something that

I'm that I think there many people that natural

have this inclination like to the chisos or

create in the suerte or the amulet that all

the I was I was and I was

and for example, no I know, I guess, I think it was a little bit of my mom or

something, and I'm in the revista, for the good suitor, I'd do, I'd be, and I'd, then I'm like, hmm,

so. So, so, I've been always had been, like, this inclination, but it was when we were

to Sallem for first time to investigate to all the of the other of the things, in that I'm

in that you can do you can't do in a way, in where it's, you can't

do you you can practice in your day day because it was a way to do you

know a that you know that you know it's it's just that it's pure

malifisios or puros to be to be a lot of because much people that you

know what that you do you so so you don't know I'm not I'm

I'm gonna take a tour that I'm don't know I'm so I'm like I'm

so like the thing and I was this man was a historian

but was a bruch. And we was about about the story of the Salem and

the about the time, all this thing of this type of magic that he practiced

a type of magic that is a kind of influence of the Uika and so I don't

see, that I'm this is my call of my name when I this car yeah

and a thing and the people coming very tranquill like I need to this for my

chis or no-se- -k- and like the tiendas of the

barit and I didn't I'm a kind of that this was a world and

it's a world more than the people that the people think that they

know they know and only they're they're so so that I'm

so I I'm I'm so I know much much how this historiator

did all and how you about the world magical and

influences that we have now in our life or even

in religions that They've been of this of this of a much, much time.

So I'm I'm pretty I'm I'm a video at respect. And first I was never

I'm nervous I said like oh yeah the people that's maybe probably will get some

and I'm a little that a little a little but no they're super amables so it

was like no for the for the chisos use serillos or or this

cause the reality the real the reason and not see if at

a more, they were like, genuine interest, that not more to end up about me burl or something,

or not more for the content. I know, not they're in the genuine interest because I think, they're very very amables.

And much people, I'm like, I'm a family of practitioners, you're coming these books, you can check

this, and me sent me very comod. And, then I'm I'm going to start to classes,

to do, learn a lot of books, and then I went to do you was something that was incorporated in my life. If my family, the

is very religious, is very Catholic. No, me juggled for this, but nobody has made to do get into onas in vusery, or nothing. Oh, and what you practice or what you

do you live is, your style of life, is the magic, the bruchery, the chisery, what type of practices you can

do you know, I consider a little, like a mixture of different things. I think it's a,

um, armando for me, that I think that much people live like a really a really a book

eclectica that is a particular of a little bit of a place, I'm a deidat to the idea of that I'm

my petitions, if I'm certain things that I'm not I'm not I'm not so much I'm

not I'm not I'm not I'm that I'm do you do you to do to another

and don't to be doing a kind of your, well Voluntat. I do

more than things of protection, of the things, especially the things, especially the

things, I'm very in the mind with what I'm going to be in things or get to get to be

a lot of something. That's something I see like a need to learn to because when

you're inevitable that you topes with things that's that's sometimes that

sometimes that's what I'm, it's more than a kind of like a style of my aletos,

I practicke, like my rituals and so, but, but all more than I, I'd you,

that my speciality is more than the protection and the limpies. Protection and limpies? Okay.

What is the potency in the, I think the magic they're divided in colors. Of these

colors, you are one of the one of the you're more to find? Fiatate

that I say, I think, I'm, and I like, but not I,

not practic much. I like the magic red, but the magic bird involucra many

and the only I'm going to like to buy plantitas and that's that's not really the

attention right. But I don't say that I think I'm a preference, and you

say, that no important the matter, the not the mind,

so I think I don't know, I think, I think, I'm like, in theory,

much the language very, but I'm maybe I'm a person who

For the questions of protection, those inclinenance to the magic Blanca or is protection from magic black? I think is a little of both.

Because, of a repent, if there are things that involve, for example, Eka, is considered a

god is a god iscura. But I consider it that much of the influence comes of magic

blank, although I think, well, it's a bit of various things. A

both of both of the practice of a major a level theoretical and in some

people who they're doing that's of the magicas as the more problematic for the user because

it's because it has done your practice. So, has been? Some

times, yes. Why? Why do this? I think is that one has to

do you have to care much to think at the final of the day

also I don't you forget that there's a kind of a kind of a kind of a paganism not not of

sacrifice, but of intercution. So, I think the energy in general always works

that's even I think it's something that's a alchemia, I don't know much of alchemia,

but that they say that you say that you're to give a the

the same so I think that you know you you know that's

to make to make to make to make to make to I'm going to you

but also because at the end of the day, you do this things for you but then you're doing

things to doves and you're doing much energy your in all that you do you so that's so it

but I'm I'm trying to me to protect me and care you know, you know, some success,

or some that has something that you using magic a black me

passed much in the things because many times I'm

people that are my friends who want to be there's a one of a time in the one of the

house where there was there's a and there's so I'm I'm abiented the limpa and it was

it was too it was too I'm just I'm just I'm like and much many times when somebody

me says like I'm can't do I'm not I'm saying I'm not I'm I'm that's like

it's much people yeah I know I'm to I'm going to get

a time I'm going to do this. I'm really in this. I'm a

good in the things. I'm quite effective the really.

I'm that I think that I think that is something that I do you

do this I'm going to get a very much years. Yeah. It's cancer

physical or emotional? The two. The two. And mentally you

can't you No, mentally, what most me apag is the deficit

of attention. That's is difficult to combat with that's very very bad. But, but we're

really, a good, first, I'm really, I'm really much so, you know,

super, yeah. Duda, for the way, you know, you know, of stories?

Totally. So, yeah, actually, yeah. So, so, so,

so, where can, where can do you can, where can , where are, RISA,

Reve, is, my name is R-A-I-Z-A, Revelles is with W-I-L. I know that's very rare. Pied in

any of your place a new name well, it's a piece of it. I don't know because they're that you're so, but

well, but so, but so they're on YouTube. It's Raiza Rebels 99, in Instagram I'm sorry

Rebels, in TikTok, I'm like Raisa Rebels. In all those levels, me can't like Rays to Rebels. So,

really only put on YouTube, Rayser Rebels, there's going to be to be on Twitch. So, then I'm

doing streams, I'm in all the reds, and I'm doing investigations paranormal and collection of

those posseid checken, I, I, I'm I'm, I'm not I'm not I'm

I'm not quite, I was too, I was the channel. And I've been here before before I was coming here, I was about consuming and me toped with various of those videos. The investigations that do you are very interesting. They're like certain

methodologies and tendes much to the question of transparency. And that's something that distinguishes to work. Thank you. Thanks. Thank you. Thanks. So, Reyesa, thanks. And to the family nocturna, let's desire, good

a week time and that have sweetasas bedazz. Bye, bye.