HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de Magia Retorcida, Posesiones demoniacas y maleficios familiares| Ft. Mina Martins| EP 208

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a éste DUELO de Historias aterradoras de Magia retorcida, posesiones Demoniacas y maleficios familiares...  En ésta tan solicitada SAGA de BRUJERÍA con la buena Mina Ma...rtins.El día de hoy les preparamos historias escalofriantes de contacto con espíritus malignos; escucha el aterrador encuentro paranormal de un hombre que arriesgó todo para proteger a su familia; la ouija revela catastróficas predicciones en un grupo de amigas y una familia descubre el oscuro pasado de su fortuna y desventura... además conoce los juguetes de la tía Natalia en este aterrador duelo de Historias de Brujeria y Magia retorcida.. así que prepárate para que @hablemosdeloquenoexisteHablemos de lo que no existe es un canal de youtube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022 su primer episodio fue vivo en un casa embrujada en el que una chica narro sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de este canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de este canal , la familia nocturna creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz. Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados. La comunidad de este canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando esto tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenido El duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora. En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado .

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Starting point is 00:00:01 And the Bruchess in the coincidences, Elena. And she, why? You're going to talk with all the honesty. You'll say the things clear as well. Me did you do a job of murder. Of a sudden, and then everything, it said, like, me hallowed. I said, I was in a mobile, in the obscurity.
Starting point is 00:00:21 And then he said, he started to hear like a grunido. Welcome to Famine Nocturna, to this new episode of Let Me Let Me Too Exist. The day of we have We're a episode very special
Starting point is 00:00:33 because he's here to go to Mina Martins to talk one more of this saga that has
Starting point is 00:00:41 enchanted you've got of dones magic brugery very retorsida and so is that
Starting point is 00:00:49 so without more welcome to Mina Martins how is how much very good very
Starting point is 00:00:54 thanks thank you thank you for the invitation to new to your community
Starting point is 00:00:58 of people. It has been a good to come to you know in what he was the year of the second
Starting point is 00:01:03 chapter. If I'm the last one I'm a fifth but you know, but yeah we've got some chapters
Starting point is 00:01:08 that I'm recommend I see in the history of videos. It's enchantada to come
Starting point is 00:01:12 to come more stories because there's there's there to day of
Starting point is 00:01:16 day of the day of the day of we're going to I'm going with stories very
Starting point is 00:01:21 obscured that they have to question with there There was one in special, that I think
Starting point is 00:01:27 they were to know when that's always that's really super retorsida. But, Mina, for not
Starting point is 00:01:34 to get the custom, me permitting you know, tell you a story? Sure, that's
Starting point is 00:01:37 a person. This story I've I've got to hear the day of today. For certain
Starting point is 00:01:44 circumstances, I can't do the data, but it's a story that's a internet,
Starting point is 00:01:50 it's a story veridica, the succeeded to a a sacerdote
Starting point is 00:01:53 exorcist and it has to be a brugry but it is very very
Starting point is 00:01:57 strange what happened. Resulted that this sacerdote to
Starting point is 00:02:01 start not not in these questions related in general
Starting point is 00:02:07 to the things paranormal he had he had
Starting point is 00:02:10 a type of formation that was more more
Starting point is 00:02:15 and something that is a very that he has Regals
Starting point is 00:02:21 of comportment, Regals of thinking. So, however, for a
Starting point is 00:02:27 situation of necessity, he they're that he took some some
Starting point is 00:02:31 the question of the question of exorcism. He starts that for
Starting point is 00:02:37 him simply is like a formation more of theology
Starting point is 00:02:40 and to talk about about about aspects that
Starting point is 00:02:44 are very super natural but at the day-a-
Starting point is 00:02:48 -day- not pass. and that's that they're at that's
Starting point is 00:02:53 they're to get with the people one after other that
Starting point is 00:02:56 they're to have different different types of such and he said
Starting point is 00:03:00 I was I was I felt much I felt much I was people
Starting point is 00:03:07 people that people that were to talk and you
Starting point is 00:03:09 I'm saying well you're having a but I had
Starting point is 00:03:14 a hand a cross of San Benito the I mean, it was placed
Starting point is 00:03:19 since a few or months, and it's started to get a only, he's
Starting point is 00:03:25 the point in the he had to keep them after the exorcism, and my dead was marked,
Starting point is 00:03:30 and my head was marked. In many occasions me gave to all
Starting point is 00:03:35 to get to the dead. There was there was that I had, confecionable
Starting point is 00:03:40 some rosarios, and those was rosarios, rosaries, the rosaries,
Starting point is 00:03:43 and the and made-a-and-a-matter. And me took in two occasions, that doing a rizzo with a person, standing in a carmion, someone in the carmion, commenced to get to-gritar, and he was going to turn. And the
Starting point is 00:03:56 person with that was going to have a don, and this don was to be a little more there. And me, he said, reactioner onto our rest. Acerke-man-nose, that person has a problem of an entity. This type of situations
Starting point is 00:04:11 every way are more one of those rosarios, a denario, that are these not rosarios that are not exensos, but they're
Starting point is 00:04:17 little ones, you can't put in a little bit of a person. The rosario, that denario was of the matter.
Starting point is 00:04:24 He was put and in the moment in the he was he changed, he said, quit me that's
Starting point is 00:04:30 me's coming. And then I went to be his heado and he has ampulas. He's how demonious
Starting point is 00:04:36 will be a manuel is madder. Me started clear that really actually
Starting point is 00:04:42 So, if there's something in the in the way that there is like an other world, a world supernatural. The situation, one of the most fervoirs that was a day
Starting point is 00:04:54 that came to a woman. Yeah, for this and have been passed many years. I was in this time. I don't me
Starting point is 00:05:00 surprised. It was a woman, and when it's that it I don't occupy interact to work much, the
Starting point is 00:05:08 environment in the place in that was He was, before to know that this woman
Starting point is 00:05:11 was there was in a lot of fear, it was aterrower something very very strange, very
Starting point is 00:05:18 dense. And then they're they're waiting, you know, they're when I'm
Starting point is 00:05:24 this person, she was accompanied of her husband. His husband, me says,
Starting point is 00:05:28 father, we're we're not, we're that's contenting, is like making cars
Starting point is 00:05:35 and being doing cars, and being the force in the the person,
Starting point is 00:05:38 and it's for what I was it was I was thinking that I'm saying I'm there's something
Starting point is 00:05:43 I'm not it's quite something, I think I'm say no me say I'm my name you're going
Starting point is 00:05:47 to visit the end of the end of the same yeah I've been I'm able to eight
Starting point is 00:05:52 people apart I'm sorry six, seven, eight persons. The situation
Starting point is 00:05:59 is that that in those persons about a person who was the person who was the
Starting point is 00:06:04 angelologist resulta that this angelologist she was she one of these multiple exorcisms
Starting point is 00:06:10 and he considered a person a very capable and very good good person. And this sacerdate
Starting point is 00:06:16 working with this angelologist he did he really strange that he referred to a person. So,
Starting point is 00:06:20 he said, you're saying, you're you're trying to do you think, I'm saying, I'm not
Starting point is 00:06:26 I'm not, because the Lord, the you know, he was to look to
Starting point is 00:06:32 me, I didn't, I'm percibi nothing, and I said that if I could be
Starting point is 00:06:35 to be to my I could pass of all the quarters. There was
Starting point is 00:06:40 something in that house and something there's I'm very, I'm very so I'm so much
Starting point is 00:06:46 you're quite not it's whatever we're all we're going to we're going to get to a situation
Starting point is 00:06:55 a little very but I know exactly that was these people of the family
Starting point is 00:07:00 didn't even even didn't give exactly that we we were exactly that we
Starting point is 00:07:04 we're When I get to the husband, that I start to talk to what is your story, because they're in that house, from when they're occurring these things, all those situations. And the husband me
Starting point is 00:07:17 that they've had been a situation economic a little precarious, but that had been able to earn a certain quantity of money, pauporim, really a quantity a small,
Starting point is 00:07:27 but that this sir had proposed that he was to get a place in that they were to be able to make that they were to buy them
Starting point is 00:07:34 or to buy a house, and discovered the property in that they're a year, a year and
Starting point is 00:07:40 a year and and they're in a cost that not has a sense. Does the investigation
Starting point is 00:07:45 the sir. No, there's any kind of kind of is dweeco, it's a
Starting point is 00:07:51 person that's just want to desacer of her, and they can't an great
Starting point is 00:07:54 opportunity. Compran the house, they're to be to be to be
Starting point is 00:07:56 to be a day one something is very very strange. The
Starting point is 00:08:01 The husband, that was a person very sweet, very calida, very very circana, always amable, always atent, he begins to have some lapses,
Starting point is 00:08:10 some spaces of time in those that not there. It's like if if it's not there. It's rare, but
Starting point is 00:08:19 also have lived yet various years and you know that are the youngas of some years,
Starting point is 00:08:26 so they're their spaces, they're changing to the circumstances have changed a man very conscious, but it's
Starting point is 00:08:32 rare because the lapses start every more and more and more. And there's other situation. There's a sensation in the house like if were not a presence, various, like if there were
Starting point is 00:08:45 people, like if they were moving to a quarter to other, no, there are noises, there are sensations of a repent to be watching
Starting point is 00:08:54 the television and like if someone would be and you, and then you're there's, and then you're seeing the
Starting point is 00:08:59 television and it's like if someone can't and he is a right at
Starting point is 00:09:03 the time and he's not a time. And the person, he's a
Starting point is 00:09:09 change. Of the lapses, of these lapses of time, of these spaces
Starting point is 00:09:13 where it's kind of a little perdick and he starts a more more call
Starting point is 00:09:19 a little more than a different, aggressive, in occasions is being
Starting point is 00:09:23 and the year and he's not it's not it's not it's it's pisando the
Starting point is 00:09:28 locura, some type of problem mental, and he's to look help.
Starting point is 00:09:33 While he starts to get a person, the people are to get to come to say they're
Starting point is 00:09:39 seeing the voices, and they are in occasions when a reunions family
Starting point is 00:09:43 are and they do you and they put up and they put into and the
Starting point is 00:09:48 plant of the place and the plant of door and windows
Starting point is 00:09:51 there there no there there there's a special that is
Starting point is 00:09:56 especially fria and it's a very rare for when when they're going to this is a
Starting point is 00:10:02 woman since a year is a year not the same is the very affected
Starting point is 00:10:08 not have more relations than his husband and his husband has
Starting point is 00:10:12 has been many occasions that the matrimon should he's not only
Starting point is 00:10:16 is a very is supermente infel with this person
Starting point is 00:10:19 because not he doesn't he he and since that's
Starting point is 00:10:28 it's up, it's it's like circumstances paranormal for all the success, has decided
Starting point is 00:10:33 to put hands to the work. For that's because the angelologist said, go you,
Starting point is 00:10:39 they'll be a solution. When the father he's when he doesn't
Starting point is 00:10:43 clear. They start questions that are part of certain protocol of many
Starting point is 00:10:49 sacerdotes. This sacerdote not is a Catholic. It's a
Starting point is 00:10:52 cente a certain that And he begins to do do you know, and they've asked been in practices
Starting point is 00:10:59 occultists, you've been playing Uiha, has been doing invocations, has you've been in questions of magic to try to do something
Starting point is 00:11:06 with what he's contact with with some type of entity. No, no, no, nothing. They've used a life
Starting point is 00:11:11 common and current and so much of these things. Not are things that they cause in their
Starting point is 00:11:16 are not. And not the father, but he's, well, we're going to start the process
Starting point is 00:11:23 of liberation. I say that the book, they're doing to make orations, and when they're
Starting point is 00:11:27 doing the people, they're in the person, open and see a door and see a door. And all they're
Starting point is 00:11:34 to see the other things. At the second's or the second's or the lady to get to
Starting point is 00:11:41 get to completely. They're to come in going to court or quarter by quarter,
Starting point is 00:11:46 because the rest of people, although they're they're they're people, are
Starting point is 00:11:50 people who mom of the sacerdote, because she has been very metied, since he entered in the questions of exorcism, of a certain way he was capacitant and she has been a company. So, it's a group that is a experimented, still doing their orations, and they're going to
Starting point is 00:12:06 pass more things extra in the house. Of a sudden, the house is a very dense. It's like if the house was living, expecting them, but not that not so, that is a presence, are many. And the sacerd, as, while it's doing this, there's a moment
Starting point is 00:12:20 in the sense that they're in the area. Here is where are the things. And the people that are doing
Starting point is 00:12:27 they say, if you hear you, he's not, no, no I'm not I'm not. It's the
Starting point is 00:12:33 space. And they go and they get the ear and when some voices that are saying and they're
Starting point is 00:12:44 like four voices, women and people who are sosurend things that he can't
Starting point is 00:12:50 understand. He's not do you do orations, it says, there's a thing that's a thing that's a question,
Starting point is 00:12:56 he's in a little bit of the thing that you can't imagine, man. The house is very beautiful. The house of
Starting point is 00:13:04 this pair of all, they have been all right all right, painted, with things very
Starting point is 00:13:09 selectioned. That is a no has no has no, it's all the
Starting point is 00:13:15 pieces of pedodic pegas for all all all it. It's
Starting point is 00:13:18 rare no it's limp. And he asked the sir, you said this?
Starting point is 00:13:25 No, no, I've had done that's like two years. No, they've been
Starting point is 00:13:30 perceived the banio that's that way. The father is here. Here is where
Starting point is 00:13:36 resided the entities. I don't why. He's the father that he gets an
Starting point is 00:13:40 water exorcised and no see what other elements, come to do
Starting point is 00:13:43 his orations and when those they're a part of a
Starting point is 00:13:46 piece of a a and he a a view a when see that he's
Starting point is 00:13:51 a no, this no, this no, this is he's he's
Starting point is 00:13:57 not a super so much so much he asked the you know
Starting point is 00:14:00 you know say out of here we need we need to know
Starting point is 00:14:06 we need to what is what is what is what they're a investigation and
Starting point is 00:14:13 this is the story of that house was incautated by the police because there into a lot of delinquency in the city, vivian a group of assassins
Starting point is 00:14:26 that there, as abendos, they'd, and they'd, they'd have to bea their last morad. In that place, they'd have been to be it to becences or maybe even hundreds of persons. The situation was that
Starting point is 00:14:40 everyone was that one of those of that group was a brute. And he, he Utilize the people to do rituals, they were because there were certain signos ritualistic in the nights that all were in that zone that nobody saw that in the ban. When they started to see those elements,
Starting point is 00:15:01 the sacerdote commenced to look and see it, and she knew that was a little of practice regional but that's a supermement obscure and macabre and he just knew how to do, let's say, the orations of exorcism, and when it was, the family after that
Starting point is 00:15:17 regressed to the normality like as he never had never had nothing.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Lazange surgely, puissance more than 15 minutes we're ready to dojo play to play
Starting point is 00:15:28 to live the pleasure with the casino in line that the new
Starting point is 00:15:32 and the new of the new to find to free on
Starting point is 00:15:36 big bass bonanza without without without any without
Starting point is 00:15:39 payment ohio I'm doing Play-O-Joh. 18-time and plus, 1-Depos only, Excluen in Ontario.
Starting point is 00:15:46 50 tours on the machine to sub-Begbas Bonanza. Depos minimum of 10 dollars. Veye to be in a fashion responsible.
Starting point is 00:15:50 The conditions apply. When you were pretty, you have braced in course of recreat. Always in to negotiate,
Starting point is 00:15:56 to exchange, the cards of hockey, the bonhom, the bracelets, even of the collation. You know, that each thing
Starting point is 00:16:01 has a value, very before to have been before the things have not really changed. Nogsit-T-D
Starting point is 00:16:07 you can't to renewing with your instinct of negotiation. With without operation gratuit, no amount
Starting point is 00:16:13 minimum, and no free mensual. You are made for negotiate. And the app Negoti Tit
Starting point is 00:16:17 CETT-D and made to you need to now. And with this story, Mina,
Starting point is 00:16:23 you do the well, well, well, with these stories of people who people who
Starting point is 00:16:29 people who who, so, use these these these regals spiritual for things
Starting point is 00:16:35 that are all positive, and, this so say in all the ambitutes. Precisely
Starting point is 00:16:40 my story the first story of this night is the the first time. This is a person who is a patient
Starting point is 00:16:47 my patient my of the child. It's one of the millions of cases that you know that's
Starting point is 00:16:50 but this me really really the attention because she she was
Starting point is 00:16:55 she when she when she you know the preparatory then you like to then you still
Starting point is 00:17:02 they're to say like that's take a time her, not,
Starting point is 00:17:19 so she could, to be able to think, to get a career, she'd like, she'd be able to her own, but he'd rather than to his family, that was, like, they were, like, these cults of the religion Christiana, no? It's very well-savid,
Starting point is 00:17:36 that there's like many, from much time back, like many activities that are these young, no,
Starting point is 00:17:40 that are in missions and that they're doing to do other people, do you know? So, she at the
Starting point is 00:17:49 principle, she had, like, she had, like, the invitation to these cults or
Starting point is 00:17:55 to these practices, no, because she, like, but she was not really involute.
Starting point is 00:17:58 So, she said, well, no, I'm going to start doing nothing this year,
Starting point is 00:18:03 and the final of the time, I'm It's, it's to know people, to treat new
Starting point is 00:18:08 people, and entertainer me, no. So, then she's, she's, she's, she's,
Starting point is 00:18:13 she's, all right, so, I mean, so, the first, people, people,
Starting point is 00:18:17 very good, people, so, he, even, even, even, even,
Starting point is 00:18:21 even, even, he, like, to, like, , more and more and more in these activities, no,
Starting point is 00:18:38 that's the days of the weekends. Gingue a point where, in best to involuntarily, the same people, of there, he said, like, no, is that, you know, you know, you have to botisart with us, as for you can't do this activity.
Starting point is 00:18:54 So, she's like, she's, like, to prescindy of these activities that they did, I said, I never resable, or so, I was, and, like, I, like,
Starting point is 00:19:02 I, like, I'd, I'm involucre the moment of to restar, and I know, I go, with respect, with the
Starting point is 00:19:08 kind of, I'm like, I'm in one of those, well, like, they were trying to
Starting point is 00:19:15 she reused to participate, and like, he noted a notoriety of those, well, now see,
Starting point is 00:19:22 the pastors or the people, so they're like they're some leaders, no, of,
Starting point is 00:19:27 like, of groups of groups of, like, are like, some kind of a species of structure,
Starting point is 00:19:32 no? So, she noticed much insistence of part of these leaders, so, so, a day, he called one of the pastors principales, and he, like, he said, to hear the sermon, of that convierphert, that, and that baptize, and that we're going to accept here, that no, so she, then she, well, really, he said,
Starting point is 00:19:52 I, well, I only convive, because I'm my primos, me a love, convive with you, but I, I respect to his creencers, I don't me going to get here, right? So, in one of those activities, and she said, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:06 yeah, better like, like, I'm going to get. Let's say, I'm going to go. So, they're like,
Starting point is 00:20:13 like, I'm like, they're going to say, they're going to, you know, yeah, just,
Starting point is 00:20:18 never, this last, is a music that they they're called like, like, I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:22 I'm, not I'm, so I'm, she said, enterada, no, she, I'm,
Starting point is 00:20:26 I'm, but, he, well, they go, well, they're going to be to be
Starting point is 00:20:30 to be a a little bit a little bit a little bit of a little so it was a pretext, no, like to be
Starting point is 00:20:37 to be there with the chico, and then he, he, he's not this misa of,
Starting point is 00:20:44 as, as a purification or ritual of purification or ritual of purification or then, well, now, now,
Starting point is 00:20:54 I'm, me made much the attention that when I I came to see, oh, women,
Starting point is 00:21:00 men, women, one's, you know, like, they're going, and the people,
Starting point is 00:21:06 I'm going to be like, I'm in a vibrous, different, this, this type of situations,
Starting point is 00:21:12 it's me so it's so, I'm a youngsite, for me, but to be a man
Starting point is 00:21:17 and was very impactant, no, yeah we're in a temple very, very great,
Starting point is 00:21:22 like, rented, like, like, like, like, some of these ,
Starting point is 00:21:25 like, Gigantes, no? He says, me go to where they're and I'm going to hear the rest of,
Starting point is 00:21:30 no? So, it's an enthusiasm was a much much an extraor
Starting point is 00:21:34 like a alabanza, like they they say some, it's like a kind of like a
Starting point is 00:21:43 answer, no, it's, but the vibra of the people were a intense,
Starting point is 00:21:47 a, a much in this adoration that they're doing, but the things
Starting point is 00:21:54 that me have me were in those people like ingated and talking these
Starting point is 00:21:59 resos like they're like they're like to say like, well, they're not to say
Starting point is 00:22:04 they're to say some words there are there are some some studies that they're that they're
Starting point is 00:22:11 they're they're a way to read that they're in many religions not exclusively
Starting point is 00:22:16 the Christiana but well for her was very very impactante because never
Starting point is 00:22:19 has ever I've seen. Then so you that all the people started to open
Starting point is 00:22:28 the pastor to do a kind of a kind of a kind of a piece of so I'm
Starting point is 00:22:36 so I'm so I'm when he was a lot of the people he was to come to the people
Starting point is 00:22:42 the people was to go back back and I'm to get things horrible and start voices
Starting point is 00:22:47 horrible and say I'm I'm I'm I'm going I'm so I'm
Starting point is 00:22:51 so I'm so so I'm so it says that the pastor that precisely
Starting point is 00:22:56 he was the who was the where she was to make her so she was she was to come but she was like no no me tockes
Starting point is 00:23:04 but he said me pression so because where I me wanted I wanted I wanted I wanted I'm going to go and say
Starting point is 00:23:09 what is God, that is God that's a God in your pastor no see what for the
Starting point is 00:23:17 pressure of the person I said I said I'm to do it when I'm when I'm exactly in the
Starting point is 00:23:23 front and said all right all so put blank. All completely it's all completely, it's all right,
Starting point is 00:23:28 he's in two, three, four seconds, but then it's he said, he said, he said, like the light
Starting point is 00:23:43 and it's like, so it's not so, like me hallowed and me, me, me, they were,
Starting point is 00:23:49 like, yeah, yeah, I said, I was, I was able in the obscurity. And he said, he
Starting point is 00:23:54 he started to hear a a grunyido of an animal like a, like a little a grunydo or another animal. It was an grunydo
Starting point is 00:24:02 very aggressive, grotesco, I was, I started to little to first I was like a echo, but the more
Starting point is 00:24:11 it was more I felt like me they'd and et cetera. He said of a repent, I just did I think I
Starting point is 00:24:16 had been because it was so the obscurity and it was all that was made that I know
Starting point is 00:24:22 no saw of me. He said, I'm like, I'm at again,
Starting point is 00:24:26 I'm at a lot of little, and in where I'm going to the light, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:24:32 know, I'm going to the real real-to the world, and the people were the people who
Starting point is 00:24:37 was around me, me, I did count that that that, that, that, that's,
Starting point is 00:24:40 that, that's, that's saliented to be getting to my garganta.
Starting point is 00:24:45 I'm completely, I said, with the person, the, how's the pastor
Starting point is 00:24:50 an me, saying, you know, you know, you're the same, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:54 I'll get a demon, and I'm a thing, she's, she's, she's,
Starting point is 00:24:58 she's, she got in a time, the people, they've got, they've got with the
Starting point is 00:25:06 problem family, yeah, no, they've never to talk to the
Starting point is 00:25:10 situation, and she said, and she then, she, she, she, not
Starting point is 00:25:13 she, she, she, she, she, she, she's, she,
Starting point is 00:25:18 she said, she he'd go to talk. No, no, I'd say,
Starting point is 00:25:22 like in shock completely. Then, then they've like, he was going to retom the reality.
Starting point is 00:25:27 So, they said, she's that I'm not I'm said, I'm not, I'm
Starting point is 00:25:33 could be to be attacks of panics, pesidels that a perry me persegia.
Starting point is 00:25:38 He said, then we got to the point where my my papa had a
Starting point is 00:25:42 person that was to he was a person to chamanism
Starting point is 00:25:46 pre-His, and they do this type of things, and he,
Starting point is 00:25:51 like he did his limpeas no, like he he I'm a
Starting point is 00:25:55 good, he did this of this, the man, the he had said,
Starting point is 00:26:01 the explanation that the theory is that that person, we, let's say
Starting point is 00:26:06 pastor, that, under commies, that was in the cult, he had the
Starting point is 00:26:09 ability to to manage spirit demoniacus, so says, when they
Starting point is 00:26:14 they're they're they're they're these spirits demoniacos, they have the how is it,
Starting point is 00:26:20 the power of the power of the power of these demons. What he did he was to let's let's getter to you, you
Starting point is 00:26:26 went to be a little, you were a sona and he met you that's that person to prove
Starting point is 00:26:31 to the people that there was there was there's but the problem is the
Starting point is 00:26:38 poste the what's what is what you what you do you this
Starting point is 00:26:42 what you this was what now a a kind of abuse of spiritual, right? So, what could
Starting point is 00:26:49 be able to an abuse, we're going to say, an abuse. There's a part of you that's not
Starting point is 00:26:56 going to be the same. And, yeah, when I was I was I, I said,
Starting point is 00:27:00 I said, I'm a part of me, yeah, no me, I'm not me, I'm not the
Starting point is 00:27:03 person. What a strong story. What's story? I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm, I'm, because, not it's to attack a religion and nothing,
Starting point is 00:27:13 is simply a a relato, that has been to be with the religions and that it's a
Starting point is 00:27:19 way to be a more introspective to think when we're to participate in activities spiritual,
Starting point is 00:27:25 what type of activities we're going to participate because we're a little a little
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Starting point is 00:28:37 And, of actually, is interesting what you is because the the theme, the theme
Starting point is 00:28:44 from the exorcists, how they are they are they they're doing they're to bring
Starting point is 00:28:51 benefits to the family, not in the sense that we always we do we always the economic,
Starting point is 00:28:57 and questions like of health and questions like of the things more more subtle, but it has
Starting point is 00:29:04 to benefit that, not can be able to be if not something that's rare there.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So, that they're to be to be a un-asion and that are not that's
Starting point is 00:29:15 kind of in those that's that's that's that's strange. So, so,
Starting point is 00:29:20 if you're talking where, no, not, not they're going to a phenomenon.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Of course, here, there's a person, that he went to a return that
Starting point is 00:29:28 was a spiritual of that type, and for him has been the more
Starting point is 00:29:32 aterrower that has been in the life. then they're in these
Starting point is 00:29:37 groups but he has like many, how do you keep it is very very at
Starting point is 00:29:43 the market because something he intuye that not they're a but
Starting point is 00:29:49 they're a sacrote was a person and he was a time and when he
Starting point is 00:29:54 he's he's not this is this is not this is what they're
Starting point is 00:29:58 doing what is the not the liberation, it's a rite but not are doing that. And if they're
Starting point is 00:30:08 more well a contact with spirits oscuros. So it was like in the appearance, the zone
Starting point is 00:30:14 in the profound that's very interesting that's what you mentioned. I mean it's a that in this
Starting point is 00:30:19 thing of the paranormal and also a lot of the and then we know we know
Starting point is 00:30:25 we know exactly like what is to what you are to do you
Starting point is 00:30:31 no, if it's a thing in that we need to end up with pincittas in occasions
Starting point is 00:30:36 or coming with a form with many many precautions. There's a person that was
Starting point is 00:30:44 very meted in the political, we'd put him the number of Umberto.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Umberto was super in the political and he was very very well. In, we'd
Starting point is 00:30:53 we're in the form in that he went of the alliances known because he no
Starting point is 00:30:59 had of a family of a Bolengo and a family pudient. He was constructing his
Starting point is 00:31:03 career. A type very intelligent, a type with a guy with a guy who was in the game in the
Starting point is 00:31:08 game in the world in the man. This is a type that's a guy in what he was going to
Starting point is 00:31:17 give the life that he was ever did a life to his family. Yeah I had
Starting point is 00:31:21 about 10 years in this year and he had been there in some partitions
Starting point is 00:31:27 but always in a cresement vertical, or better ranges, better different
Starting point is 00:31:33 alliances, and the people were in different parties. He was much the philosophy of not to be able to
Starting point is 00:31:41 another way very intelligent to manage his businesses. I'll say, no we're talking the story of an
Starting point is 00:31:46 angelito, or a kind of like, well, no. But he not was really in where
Starting point is 00:31:53 he was really in where he was for a post important. And he said
Starting point is 00:31:59 some people look, if you're going to get this place
Starting point is 00:32:02 there there's there he's he's thinking to questions
Starting point is 00:32:09 economic and he said I'm I'm I'm all to do
Starting point is 00:32:13 all so we're going to do and they go and they
Starting point is 00:32:18 say we're we we're we see we're when you
Starting point is 00:32:24 he's when it top with a group of a ritual extra
Starting point is 00:32:27 in all that Unicous, no are much, are less of 20, but all those are men, all are some capuchy and a certain mask. No, they're not going to recognize Rostos, but it's very intelligent.
Starting point is 00:32:39 He'scuched voices and they're instant. Yeah, I've identified a half of the people when he'd know that was a little distraided and no was putting attention in what were what they were doing in the rito.
Starting point is 00:32:53 For this, the jattery, he had a capuchat, and I'd try to his mask. And even never had participated in these things, easily they'd have the rhythm of the
Starting point is 00:33:00 way to have. All right. It was going around him and he not he had got to it. It was a
Starting point is 00:33:05 initialion. In that initiation, they're, not I'm going to be very descriptive, but they
Starting point is 00:33:11 make there some cortecito. And, we're going that with that liquid vital rojo,
Starting point is 00:33:15 they're also also, some kind of recos, invocations. And what what occurs is
Starting point is 00:33:21 that after they're they're, let us the well, the new level.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He said that He's He's He's And that the consequences can be major
Starting point is 00:33:33 That he is that is part the group of the and for always. Comience
Starting point is 00:33:39 to advance the time. Passing about three years of that situation when
Starting point is 00:33:44 when he gets a dispute very very very not to
Starting point is 00:33:48 then then with questions occultists and Ritulist and
Starting point is 00:33:52 nothing has passed in his life but when
Starting point is 00:33:55 when when a dispute of a situation very very we're in
Starting point is 00:33:58 we're going to the economy and things about quite chueques he
Starting point is 00:34:01 he's decided for other group and when he's in front of one of
Starting point is 00:34:06 those people that he was that he said you're sure
Starting point is 00:34:12 of what you're doing you know you know you know
Starting point is 00:34:16 you know what you know he's he's me you're not
Starting point is 00:34:19 me you're saying let's clear it's obvious that
Starting point is 00:34:23 had has grown in a very good post political, he had a power. So, no is that
Starting point is 00:34:28 he had abused all the time, in a certain manner, if it was a question of teges and
Starting point is 00:34:35 manages. And he said, no you don't you know, the fear?
Starting point is 00:34:42 There, I learned what is the infirno, and I learned that if there
Starting point is 00:34:46 are things really really really was doing in a game
Starting point is 00:34:49 of the the kids. What was the next to that's that's a thing
Starting point is 00:34:54 of that I'm a thing that I'm really the thing that I'm in the dream.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I'm that was in my house and that that was to visit to the office
Starting point is 00:35:06 she appeared me I'm I'm I'm I'm to
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'm my a guy and a gus a back. The dream was
Starting point is 00:35:18 a I'm a list. I'm sure that I'm referring, but there were grits, there was liquid vital rojo, there much dolor, expressions of much dolor.
Starting point is 00:35:26 It was a spantoso. He wants to get in a dream, and is so much the terror, the pain, the anger, the odio,
Starting point is 00:35:34 he wants to and destroy to the other person and is a cut outed. For a little cord, but it's like
Starting point is 00:35:41 if not had a power to one, and that person in the dream is to see, that's that's that's the
Starting point is 00:35:47 I said, that no saw you the consequences when when I my my I
Starting point is 00:35:52 didn't my I'm my said they were mutism selective of what
Starting point is 00:35:59 what what he was they never could do not
Starting point is 00:36:02 after my my my his my little but I'm
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'm and I'm to show when I When I
Starting point is 00:36:18 parted the heart of she was in she was in she was always unconfone and signaled to one of the
Starting point is 00:36:26 corners of the door. I said, I started to feel a affected. My spouse
Starting point is 00:36:31 started to change. My wife to have to have to be a way
Starting point is 00:36:36 and he were and the day next she'd get to get to absolutely
Starting point is 00:36:40 nothing and it was a person a person like very
Starting point is 00:36:45 very fragile a very very very in the person, with the person,
Starting point is 00:36:54 with a person we're in a tank of tiburons and we're of those we're doing the more and she
Starting point is 00:36:59 was the and now? Now I was with a little cordelito? No support anything, no,
Starting point is 00:37:06 I want to all, he'd never, that's all my relations, and for me
Starting point is 00:37:11 those were the important. Me pegared on where me was, It was a day in the
Starting point is 00:37:17 I decided that I didn't allow you have been past about about nine months so I'm
Starting point is 00:37:23 so I did references about a person to make a person to get to some people to me
Starting point is 00:37:31 and that me and my family and I got someone that person me
Starting point is 00:37:38 he went to a place no we did nothing that me
Starting point is 00:37:42 that I repienta properly for the but if I'm repent of the
Starting point is 00:37:47 consequences of when we're he said he said what we're going to do you we're
Starting point is 00:37:54 going to let's make that your spirit get in you and you can't detectar it
Starting point is 00:38:02 but that it's going to cause and I I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:38:06 so always that we're this the effect depends of the person
Starting point is 00:38:11 where you're to be to get to to get to
Starting point is 00:38:13 to be There are people who are people that are saddens, there are people who are people who are just people who are people who simply and simply, essentially, the life
Starting point is 00:38:22 they're going to be a bit more gris. There are people who they're going to have been to have sunambulism. There are people who not pass absolutely nothing but
Starting point is 00:38:30 they're going to have crises existential. It's all, nothing, who knows? You decide. He says,
Starting point is 00:38:38 but after this not they're going to get to me and to you and to family. No, you don't you don't they're
Starting point is 00:38:43 going to attack. We did do. When it was a little bit of a little
Starting point is 00:38:49 very rare. But it's the sensation like if me would have meted in a burbuck a
Starting point is 00:38:54 burbara of plastic transparent for the which is permea air, water,
Starting point is 00:38:59 soundidos, but I don't in a burbouca. Really it was like if you
Starting point is 00:39:03 just a little not put over the world to he was it's the
Starting point is 00:39:08 more more more when when I met in that burbuck I was
Starting point is 00:39:16 in that I'm going to see I'm seeing I'm he said I'm he said no there
Starting point is 00:39:22 no I'm March back there are consequences do you I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:39:28 I'm and in the back of my back there was a little made
Starting point is 00:39:33 made a a lot made I'm I'm I'm I'm
Starting point is 00:39:38 I'm I'm I'm I'm Pocos days, I saw disappearcing, and when it was disappeared
Starting point is 00:39:45 the last, my daughter recovered, the alva. My husband had sombras around her,
Starting point is 00:39:52 that were they were in the hands, they were they were them to make, they were the
Starting point is 00:39:57 little to the head, and they were like, she'd be a manoe of nerves. Pocopo were going
Starting point is 00:40:03 and and they're going to and simply and plainly, my spouse regresso. Dice,
Starting point is 00:40:10 I've I've been to places the day of day of the day that's more full of those maldita
Starting point is 00:40:14 sombers than the people. At the day of I've seen things espantosas
Starting point is 00:40:19 like sombras black with eyes and things more more than
Starting point is 00:40:23 the night that if if you do you don't time, they're to make
Starting point is 00:40:28 to make little part of red, and they're and they they're
Starting point is 00:40:33 to get to generate a fear tremendous. I know that in
Starting point is 00:40:37 some they can affect. But if me perceiving. The Brujo no knows exactly what he did. After that I set from the politics.
Starting point is 00:40:46 What I've had putted, what I got, I've got. And, I'm never pretend to go to
Starting point is 00:40:51 back to those things. Wow. Like, now, now, so the those, the
Starting point is 00:40:59 desires in reality and to have to be not, because you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:03 what you're exactly. So, and sometimes not, for the ambition, or for
Starting point is 00:41:09 the and in that type of things we can't to attender these arts that are not understand
Starting point is 00:41:17 for the humanity. And other type of art that is not much not much into the
Starting point is 00:41:22 thing, but it's a story that me impacted much a way of the
Starting point is 00:41:26 fichate that I don't I'm very of the but this
Starting point is 00:41:30 story so me made very interesting from from from the
Starting point is 00:41:33 perspective that is a a friend of her family he said that's a
Starting point is 00:41:39 old old it's a family traditional Regio Montana of here at the this of the
Starting point is 00:41:47 middle center and total that this this man so it was anti the society
Starting point is 00:41:52 and all was a person that was effectively was effectively was involved
Starting point is 00:41:58 with the values familyaries know so you know in certain times
Starting point is 00:42:02 we're about the years 70s 80s that the representation
Starting point is 00:42:06 of the religiousity, pardon the the word, was it was very, like,
Starting point is 00:42:12 in the society. Orita is a little more but in this time, it was different. Afts, his family
Starting point is 00:42:19 was to be a misa, to be in these activities, but the abelito had a fascination for the oraculos.
Starting point is 00:42:28 In this case, the oraculos we're about in this case, the wihah and the
Starting point is 00:42:31 tarot. Those lea a discondid, no? I thought that nobody was
Starting point is 00:42:36 The only that was the secret to this secret to was to be the abelah but then the nets
Starting point is 00:42:42 are conviviening with the abelos, they were to get to get a dormia in the house and
Starting point is 00:42:45 they'd they're just to get to to look at the old to be a bit of
Starting point is 00:42:52 they're doing the tarot and they they'd but in that then they were they're
Starting point is 00:42:57 not or for what they were not? And then when she was when she
Starting point is 00:43:01 was a in one of those visit to the as well as, as, as a, as a couple of primas and the besin, they used a much of those, no, like,
Starting point is 00:43:11 like they were in the houses, they'd have a piomada, and, well, they gave a permission to do, well, in that piamada of chikas, no, in that house of the abelos. It's, like, yeah, well, so, so, they're doing
Starting point is 00:43:25 them too, so much, cliche of that. And, they, well, they, like, they're, well, they're about seven, eight, those that were initiating
Starting point is 00:43:38 the session in this then. So, let us from the perspective energetic
Starting point is 00:43:43 there was an important energy, no, because are various people, as they're
Starting point is 00:43:49 a little young, 15, 20 years, we said, we'd say, we're saying, we're
Starting point is 00:43:56 questions really really, so, all, so, all, all the people,
Starting point is 00:44:00 people, people, people, people, people, and, etc. I said,
Starting point is 00:44:03 I don't I think it was real Dichie of all the time that's the time
Starting point is 00:44:09 he's still a perlita and who he's a person to say all those those
Starting point is 00:44:15 those questions I said I think I think that they they're
Starting point is 00:44:20 they're not for the responses correctes they're going
Starting point is 00:44:24 going and they're they're and they they're they they're
Starting point is 00:44:28 and so Risa and Risa and RISA the whiha. Because I they'd say, well, they're
Starting point is 00:44:33 questions innocents, that, that were those questions malicious, or that's very denses,
Starting point is 00:44:39 no? In one of those chicas, yeah, just had she'd another person,
Starting point is 00:44:45 that were the ones that were the ones that and they're, you, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 00:44:51 I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, because I know, I'm,
Starting point is 00:44:55 I'm, so, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, so,
Starting point is 00:44:59 Oh, that's this chick, this child, no? So, so this child that this chick
Starting point is 00:45:03 that makes the question, he's a question, I'm going to and the table and the table
Starting point is 00:45:29 So, uh, to, like, uh, and why not me go to get to say,
Starting point is 00:45:34 or so, he's to say, like, like, I'm going to be a infiel, no, this,
Starting point is 00:45:39 uh, I don't see, it's, uh, like, to, uh, to,
Starting point is 00:45:43 like, uh, uh, uh, so, uh, one and other, no,
Starting point is 00:45:49 and no, and so, they're, so, because, because, those questions, they're a
Starting point is 00:45:53 repent, are soas, no, questions, of the questions, no, So, total, that he
Starting point is 00:45:58 will be at final to ask her, and he would say to say that's the reason, ha, ha, ha, ha, and et cetera. He's,
Starting point is 00:46:06 well, when me to talk to ask him, I'm going to see, we're real, that this exists,
Starting point is 00:46:11 or so, of the whiha, no, and so, so, I, what I did, was to
Starting point is 00:46:16 ask, the name of my mother of my mother, so that nobody, of that
Starting point is 00:46:21 the circle knew, how it's really, how it's well it. So, then, well, yeah, I wonder, and I'm,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'm in credula, but when it's a move to the table, the time that is the lettering the name of my abuela, then I said,
Starting point is 00:46:36 what is this? Because, I said, I was like, I'm a attitude of not I'm trying the fear that I'm trying,
Starting point is 00:46:44 but is saying something that nobody of here know, like these chicas me,
Starting point is 00:46:51 me, they're going to apply the table for that so deletre that's the name, no?
Starting point is 00:46:56 So, where she says the name, he gets to the other than they're doing
Starting point is 00:47:01 that they pass and they let's make to do that she's then this session. Then
Starting point is 00:47:07 then the time, a two, three three more and she will be to a visit
Starting point is 00:47:13 of the house of the house of the people and they're
Starting point is 00:47:16 in the people there in the people that they were of
Starting point is 00:47:20 the time how say, that's that's they're like the
Starting point is 00:47:23 city, no, and there's there's like, there's, there's in the
Starting point is 00:47:29 avenue, they've seen, they're, they're in, they're in the carosa, passed so on the
Starting point is 00:47:35 other cars that they congege in the courteuvre, no, that's, they're in the car of the
Starting point is 00:47:45 familyaries after, no? Yeah, the house of the abuel, and the
Starting point is 00:47:48 abelos, they're that the chick, that was, the woman that was had a
Starting point is 00:47:55 woman, was there had been had been in an assault. In one of these
Starting point is 00:47:59 years, at the university of the morning, the, they were they were,
Starting point is 00:48:05 and they got her and they're to get a boat. Wow. So, it's a
Starting point is 00:48:11 relato that is a question because, so, especially, of the type of
Starting point is 00:48:17 person that person, was dedicated completely to things of a master, of psychology, and that no
Starting point is 00:48:24 has nothing to be related and her impacted for this relato. I'm, I'm really the attention,
Starting point is 00:48:30 and I wanted to give us to you. I want to the story of the Juketalya.
Starting point is 00:48:37 Okay. There are situations in Mexico, that are quite crudas. So, this situation
Starting point is 00:48:45 that will to hear of an emmao, prepare. It's a situation very strong, very cruda, very ingust, but simply, it's on. And yeah. Resulta that a chick, let's know the
Starting point is 00:48:57 name of Abigail, when it was very little, remember that her mom, shevada was continually to the house of the Tia Natalia. The Tia Natalia was a woman, yeah a little
Starting point is 00:49:09 in years, had a certain part of her caboio, Cano, was a little kind of a morobadita
Starting point is 00:49:16 and was a person not desagradable but we're very peculiar
Starting point is 00:49:22 did many things rare she she she she
Starting point is 00:49:26 he remember a the she a tia making
Starting point is 00:49:32 that people in different moments of the day pass
Starting point is 00:49:35 to the and he he was that they
Starting point is 00:49:39 were there's there they were going different situations and then
Starting point is 00:49:43 like if were to some kind of a mercurge of the kitchen, he had all over
Starting point is 00:49:48 and they and they had to sometimes frasks a and a little
Starting point is 00:49:52 a idea. She had the idea that was a chef or curandera or
Starting point is 00:49:57 or something because never saw that she was that
Starting point is 00:50:03 she had had things very peculiar a sometimes had
Starting point is 00:50:07 people and she in a mode very extrano and in a form like with some of the rhythms that were more than kindos and then it was like it was because she was called
Starting point is 00:50:20 like to try to vomit something and he started to be that this was just a lot of other thing the tia the tia natalia had a an abitation of mouyeas but were molliecas that were many macradas,
Starting point is 00:50:35 some rots, some desechas others were like things that were things that were moneces, trosses of a piece with a
Starting point is 00:50:43 little bit put up and with eyes bad put up around, things that were like
Starting point is 00:50:47 were in those, things things were really rare, but she saw that she
Starting point is 00:50:51 had been after that these people were and she had like
Starting point is 00:50:56 that she was a new new muca in that
Starting point is 00:51:01 the two day or the two days. No they the
Starting point is 00:51:04 one the mom she had one and another
Starting point is 00:51:08 other other other there she not pass that
Starting point is 00:51:10 a good because the Tia had a time. One of
Starting point is 00:51:14 the two of the tia was sit at the table in what you
Starting point is 00:51:17 put in the question and he put up things and he said and when that he
Starting point is 00:51:23 did that also some some some around of her invite
Starting point is 00:51:27 to people and they were to say to say it was a
Starting point is 00:51:32 always desperate and was that Tia was was not you don't do
Starting point is 00:51:37 you do So the games of the Tia Natalia and the time in the house of the Tia Natalia for her, it was like moments meadow rarous. Passed years. No know in what moment he left. His mom has changed to city. Then,
Starting point is 00:51:50 she was a person of the other that she enamored. She was treated more or less well, not so much, not too much. He was a middle of a little bit of a university. And all that's the pasted of the Tia Natalia, she kept there. She kept in the old,
Starting point is 00:52:08 so you can't say, until that the repent with the time, with the time, he was a type of
Starting point is 00:52:13 this type of programs. I'm a day he said, I don't know why, I know, I know exactly
Starting point is 00:52:20 what is, but I know that I've lived things of those that's saying there,
Starting point is 00:52:24 and she got to the Tia Natalia. And he asked her mom, oh, Mom,
Starting point is 00:52:29 never me ever you're in that she's she's a woman, because you never used
Starting point is 00:52:33 to talk to her and the Tia Natalia, and the Tia Natalia, I'd be, and I'd tell about all that, and you'd tell you, and you never
Starting point is 00:52:41 me didn't say anything, but me would you ever get to give it. And he said, my mom-sorough in y'n't know-and-and-and-he. And he started to yore, and yore, and he was going to give a pardon.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Resulta that that woman, if it was a kind of a chisela, that's about, that or how, and my mom he'd be a dinner.
Starting point is 00:53:02 The form of Pago was I, in the way he was still for some for the
Starting point is 00:53:08 time for that he was going to go to get after a time my my mom said
Starting point is 00:53:13 that they were that they were saying that they said that they were
Starting point is 00:53:20 saying that it was so it he he's to be to
Starting point is 00:53:25 get to the place independently what was that that
Starting point is 00:53:27 we we we we know that we Hey, me son-o-com, oh, no, these cases of,
Starting point is 00:53:37 like a, like, a, like, they used as a, like a little, no, like, like, like, like, like, like, to be, like, to be the energy virtual, no, the more, to be, well, to be, to talk communication with these, entice, no, so, so, that type of cases, because, you use the energy of these, of those, the, of these, no, because it's a, point pure and, of innocence.
Starting point is 00:53:59 Or, to, or, like, to, or something. Ah, so, yeah. They're like imamens for the energies and we're in so we're so we're
Starting point is 00:54:06 going to that's over for the chick. And, well, about situations that
Starting point is 00:54:11 have been with things of spirituality, well, my next story me
Starting point is 00:54:16 a one of a little that in those years of those
Starting point is 00:54:21 years of two, that had like, two, he was, of eight, no,
Starting point is 00:54:24 of eight or nine years, first he was he was a little he was, like,
Starting point is 00:54:30 he was I'd like to sleep only, these these kids, who are still who are in the father and the mama and that
Starting point is 00:54:37 he had to be a power to the the little, so in the house that in the first
Starting point is 00:54:43 there was no there was there was because I was always I was always I'm accompanied accompanied,
Starting point is 00:54:49 no? Despite, like the he's got a well, he's been a
Starting point is 00:54:53 new, the house, and then they were a house more than a house more and he
Starting point is 00:54:58 had to he had like one 11, 12 years, and they're in this house a great but
Starting point is 00:55:03 yeah every now is he was to have his room his brother and his other and the one so he's
Starting point is 00:55:10 that he for him to start to try to get to now I'm so now I'm so
Starting point is 00:55:17 what I'm so what I did try to acconditionar the court for you to feel me in a
Starting point is 00:55:23 zone in a comfort that I'm that I'm that I'm so that so that
Starting point is 00:55:28 so that allegees not for I, I know I didn't that I wanted to
Starting point is 00:55:32 that I'm and I'm and I'm there's a moment of the mudance there can't
Starting point is 00:55:38 a while the old he had painted, the abelite of him he had the hobby
Starting point is 00:55:43 to do do you do it was a great, with a mark a very
Starting point is 00:55:48 beautiful and the picture and the one of a chisne and a very beautiful
Starting point is 00:55:54 the signer but me made attention that the the
Starting point is 00:55:57 of the that's very lugubre, very like, like, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:56:00 an entorno and like the cistern was the most bright, no, of the kind of the
Starting point is 00:56:05 center of the composition. So, he said, was the quadro that was the was of my
Starting point is 00:56:11 abuel. So, like my abelel was, was he was he had
Starting point is 00:56:15 had fallen two years before, then so I put in front of my camera, as a
Starting point is 00:56:20 signer, as parted of my my old, I sentia that my was,
Starting point is 00:56:23 I was was to protect no, with that the at the first, I attempted to
Starting point is 00:56:28 do to my quarter, I was in two years, I was, I tried, I'm trying to consider the
Starting point is 00:56:34 dream, the first days me functioned, two, three months, but then I felt a much inquietude.
Starting point is 00:56:39 He said, he, he was a night, it's like, this sensation of, like, someone
Starting point is 00:56:45 you're, like, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was,
Starting point is 00:56:50 I'm, there, other presence more, I, said, I, and I, And I'd have
Starting point is 00:56:55 whiltas, and I'd and I'd book to make a question, and I'd and I'd say,
Starting point is 00:57:03 because, because it's, because, not it was called permission. I'd get a coldcha and I
Starting point is 00:57:08 had been, I'd be in the piece. So, so, it's, so,
Starting point is 00:57:13 sensations, he's, and he's to see, that's, like, vigilance, as,
Starting point is 00:57:18 and, he, he, he was, a, it's, very very
Starting point is 00:57:21 very very I'm in the quarter, like, I'm not just to
Starting point is 00:57:27 be able to get to get to get to get to so, so that that's, imagineate you
Starting point is 00:57:35 doing, I was doing a child, I'm a little still, even after after that
Starting point is 00:57:39 after that I was, I was, I'm not a time, I'm to have a problem
Starting point is 00:57:45 to have problems, no, of health. And, and, but, I'm, that at the
Starting point is 00:57:51 more me was disveling with the television or with Nintendo
Starting point is 00:57:54 in the time, in the console that they were that they were and the he's
Starting point is 00:58:00 them because they were they're saying that I'm a time after
Starting point is 00:58:05 after there was another situation that you in the madrugated the times that
Starting point is 00:58:11 I could consider the I was I'm could go to goate
Starting point is 00:58:16 like or it's that it was a really a was a a
Starting point is 00:58:19 orina a old. So, like when you go to a place and
Starting point is 00:58:22 you know like a thing, like a way, I'm in a concentration of a
Starting point is 00:58:27 really that's a lot of that I'm so I had to all the court and
Starting point is 00:58:32 to be to be and not I'm to find I'm I'm the
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm in the cell and I and I I'm I'm to do
Starting point is 00:58:42 all the thing in the whole there was there things
Starting point is 00:58:47 like to be more, how's when it's how, when it's going to that's to be able to this phenomenon
Starting point is 00:58:54 then it's that again again, again, I'm, again, I'm trying to, he,
Starting point is 00:59:01 he, he, he, he, again, again, of the, of the,
Starting point is 00:59:05 of the, the, of the, uh, but he started, the, he,
Starting point is 00:59:10 he, he was, he, he, two, 13 years, no? Then,
Starting point is 00:59:15 then the papas started to be because they said oh yeah we're just that we're doing,
Starting point is 00:59:20 that's like decaled that's demacrado that you're not you're doing so you're this symptom
Starting point is 00:59:27 something, something that has even thought they've been they've used they've been abusated and that
Starting point is 00:59:33 for that he was having these problems but he he said no I said me me they've got on
Starting point is 00:59:39 a psychologist or me even I said the really that I simply I just I didn't
Starting point is 00:59:45 I was in my courtroom and that I could I'm not I'm not because I'm
Starting point is 00:59:50 not I'm not so I'm so what he recommend about my mom was that I'm that they did some those
Starting point is 00:59:57 studies and that not they not know but this to urinars says that the first
Starting point is 01:00:03 the first says that like he he lavored the sabanas and like his mom no so
Starting point is 01:00:08 he did know but then after it was so it's repetitive that he can't he could
Starting point is 01:00:14 imagineate I think the colchon and that, well, you know, absorbed the the olores and all over the so,
Starting point is 01:00:18 no, then then they're like to do or come in they're in how they're in a way, that's not,
Starting point is 01:00:26 she had a old woman, that was, she dedicated to things spiritual. So, in that the
Starting point is 01:00:35 person yeah, he said, he was, he was a little because he was a year
Starting point is 01:00:38 and he's like, he was, like, he was, he was very imponent that part
Starting point is 01:00:43 of the cataratas, no? So the oldieg-y-ckel, he said that went to the house, and he said, like, he
Starting point is 01:00:50 observed the and he said and he said, and then I'll turn to the view to him. But he said,
Starting point is 01:00:56 he said, he said, he put a expression serious, like of an no- but I
Starting point is 01:01:02 did a question that not me was not me directly but he was like,
Starting point is 01:01:06 something something something and he said, he's in your court?
Starting point is 01:01:12 I'm like, to what he was referring to, that's, to what's, he's, he's, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:18 you know, you know, he's, he's, like, he said, he said, that's,
Starting point is 01:01:24 that's, that's, that I, he said, we go, we go, and then, they're,
Starting point is 01:01:29 they're, and where desmonted the question, he said, a orina, or so, he,
Starting point is 01:01:34 a peste of orina, that all everybody could percied in that moment. Then, then he said,
Starting point is 01:01:40 he, they're, they're, they put in the patio, and me put the book above.
Starting point is 01:01:43 Then, he said the she said, he said, try me two lemons, and he's
Starting point is 01:01:48 to take the juice of lemon, and then he started to pass the the yam of a
Starting point is 01:01:51 bell. And when he started so, in the quadro in the
Starting point is 01:01:55 back, they were to be a little, and like a type of
Starting point is 01:02:01 a murder, with with with cranes and say that that's
Starting point is 01:02:04 never seen in the the quadrant in the the the picture of
Starting point is 01:02:07 the other was a citizen, it was a a new a picture a picture
Starting point is 01:02:11 a bit of a bit of my old. So, he went in panic. He said,
Starting point is 01:02:17 how there calaveras here? I mean, I mean, we know, we know, that's
Starting point is 01:02:23 that, that would that would have that idea, so the mom said,
Starting point is 01:02:27 no, well, come me because this is of the devil and not
Starting point is 01:02:30 it's that's the thing, no, no, we can we can't
Starting point is 01:02:33 we don't we is that's vinculated with your son, if we're we're
Starting point is 01:02:39 doing this, to quack an object that, you know, has a any idea, or a
Starting point is 01:02:42 person, or a energy, then there what can be so that that's that energy
Starting point is 01:02:47 to be to be a kind of, now, now, now, I'm,
Starting point is 01:02:52 now, it's a correct, what we have to do it, is enter to
Starting point is 01:02:57 in a place, where someone, then it can be to be to be,
Starting point is 01:03:01 we can, we, we're, we, to be to scondering. So, they proceeded and went and it was when they're seeing, the story of how had arrived at this
Starting point is 01:03:10 quadro, they're talking with the hermana major of the mom, and she, well, they told her to say, oh, he'll explain to, that, look, is that the quadro of the Papa, what had, what happened? Because they were surprised.
Starting point is 01:03:22 The Papa never had had been, well, some affision with this type of activities, and much less. And much less, suspecting of the abuel, that he
Starting point is 01:03:30 could have had to have something in this case. She said that she said that her father to him he had liked much, but the mark of the quadro. But as he had
Starting point is 01:03:41 a little bit of the she said that she had not she had not said, but that the he had painted over that had painted over
Starting point is 01:03:49 that the and that he put the the cisne, no? So, but like this material that was the
Starting point is 01:03:55 water, that had, above the, the the can't, but the pap like it
Starting point is 01:03:59 was the other, the of the cizn. So, then says that, the lady that's the picture,
Starting point is 01:04:05 was there was a little some of maldition. Of the actual, they were a recapitular
Starting point is 01:04:12 and the abelor and the abelio. There's a situation that what you
Starting point is 01:04:21 have you really really really really. It's should that,
Starting point is 01:04:26 or the image that we have much, is of the parents that would to protect
Starting point is 01:04:30 to the children, and of the abuelos, maybe consent to
Starting point is 01:04:32 the nietos. Yes. And there are many realities, and there
Starting point is 01:04:38 realities very complex. And in the time of the paranormal, a
Starting point is 01:04:41 sometimes there stories very very and and I know
Starting point is 01:04:46 the attention that about that this has a
Starting point is 01:04:49 little to be a there there have a name
Starting point is 01:04:54 abel that have people are families that have
Starting point is 01:04:58 had been rich from many generations and riches enormous. The situation is that the generation
Starting point is 01:05:06 actual are the most small of 20 years, the most grand of about 35 years
Starting point is 01:05:14 in this last generation and all they're going to be the last generation of this family.
Starting point is 01:05:22 There are many things, from those who don't have children to have been
Starting point is 01:05:28 tragic, those who have been in the nada, absolutely those of this generation, they're passimamely with a form
Starting point is 01:05:38 economic, but it's very strange, because you'd think you, well, you're talking of a group of people that probably not
Starting point is 01:05:45 a disaffortune and not they know they're not they're not doing there, but no, there's there are people
Starting point is 01:05:50 that are people who are supermating people supermating that's that have been forced much,
Starting point is 01:05:56 minimum in the camps of study, and that They have dedicated for complete. But it was like the suitor, yeah was,
Starting point is 01:06:02 yeah, was tied to them and it was in a total disaster for the rest of their life. Nothing
Starting point is 01:06:09 does work. All right. And what was left of the herencia, all have been gone and it
Starting point is 01:06:14 been going to do not for malversations, for malosos, frauds, situations that are from the
Starting point is 01:06:23 past and they're affecting here. We can give many details
Starting point is 01:06:27 for the type of situation but the situation is that yeah the point, the crisis family in the case between broma and brawlan, they're in a maldition and if we're
Starting point is 01:06:38 maldits. So, no, it can't be that there's more kids, because it's that it's going to be to be right to and it can't be a piety and not
Starting point is 01:06:47 it's not so much. I don't have intended, from the things more simple to the things more complex and for one or other reason, they're doing.
Starting point is 01:06:56 even the people with those people who have done to do you say, oh, goyance, get them
Starting point is 01:07:02 a lot of a lot of because this is normal, never never never has been
Starting point is 01:07:04 done. Detaches that no is necessary to mention here. The point is this.
Starting point is 01:07:11 The crisis went to that the grade that they started and they're a disaster of that
Starting point is 01:07:17 so. Yeah, no we can't doveting we don't don't know we have
Starting point is 01:07:21 no and those who have in things very popperrimas that
Starting point is 01:07:26 It can not maintain the style of life, no, living with the minimum. Also, also have to understand that when they have certain level of payos to put them
Starting point is 01:07:35 and that's not you can. They're going to start. And there's a property in special that all of
Starting point is 01:07:42 all that they're doing to make. For something that you're like if it was an little
Starting point is 01:07:47 something, the house of the bis-a- or of tatar-a- -we-s. Some five generations
Starting point is 01:07:53 for the first house that a casorro non-non in a one a zone very very bonita of the city. The house is so
Starting point is 01:08:02 anti-to-seve that no has much maintenance but still even some people are some people. They're all they're doing
Starting point is 01:08:09 to do this the venta. But, to be able to make it to try to try to try to
Starting point is 01:08:16 try to get to get to so the person that was the person that was the
Starting point is 01:08:21 person who was the person who was doing to get to but also my part nostalgic of say, like you know something of your
Starting point is 01:08:30 history, know something of your family? The fact is that I know what I'm know nothing. I've never had been a
Starting point is 01:08:37 real relation, never have been much of the family and and I don't know of anyone. I know about the
Starting point is 01:08:44 past of my family. I know where they're not where they're a fortune. Simply I know I'm
Starting point is 01:08:48 in this, I'm so it's that for me it's something we're a little bit of this
Starting point is 01:08:53 to be if I'm I'm I find vestigios of the past. And if I
Starting point is 01:08:57 found I. We're doing remodelations in various parts. I've been a group of four people
Starting point is 01:09:05 that we're doing the other things. There are some areas that are in a bad state, but of
Starting point is 01:09:13 madera real, things that the day of you know you see, today, you see
Starting point is 01:09:17 tapices, or you see things that are made a matter that's a much
Starting point is 01:09:21 time. When we've We, we take part of this Madeira in one of the quarters, appeared a album of photos,
Starting point is 01:09:29 that was there was still in the album of photos appeared a person that I never had ever seen, a manseeing, vestied with
Starting point is 01:09:39 things like like rituals, and with many symbols that I, that I am a good, I would
Starting point is 01:09:45 say that's satanical. Because those things not were not beautiful, and they were rare,
Starting point is 01:09:51 and with a a lot of people very macabras and in all the photographs in those they're
Starting point is 01:09:56 seeing that's there are things like rituals. Not are people who are people put on the
Starting point is 01:10:12 things like and they're people who's and I'm put in indigar. Resulta that he's the kidnio of
Starting point is 01:10:19 the fortune. is the tatara father-a-tata-a-vuelo the fifth generation for the I don't know he had a
Starting point is 01:10:27 brother who was a brother that was a mona and he he was he was not he
Starting point is 01:10:33 had stories of how they'd and the people had given ablard because
Starting point is 01:10:39 they said that was a mano I don't know that that
Starting point is 01:10:42 I'm this this type I know in what I'm not in the we were
Starting point is 01:10:49 advancing in the house we were we're going to put a other things
Starting point is 01:10:53 that he had made he had made that he was thinking in
Starting point is 01:10:58 things of his and there symbols there were annios
Starting point is 01:11:03 we we we we we don't we know
Starting point is 01:11:10 I don't know I'm I'm simply I'm sent circles with symbols and they'd have been
Starting point is 01:11:21 Mired. I said, I mean, he's, I'm getting, what, he's getting, he, he's like, it's like, he had to be with magic, occultism, and things like, so. So, I'm to ask you to ask, to a family. And, de
Starting point is 01:11:33 of a year, while we were, we're in, all those reparations of the house, that all of all, all what we were doing in that house, if we put,
Starting point is 01:11:41 another fachada, if we'd, the fachada, if we'd, the fashire, if we'd, if we'd, if it was material,
Starting point is 01:11:47 that was, to pegas, amanecy a seco. The people, the people, the job of reason, were some of, they were people with the
Starting point is 01:11:56 I had worked before, and all were the and they were saying, because you know, they were going to say,
Starting point is 01:12:03 because I was going to be going to be to be going to and that's never had battled so in something.
Starting point is 01:12:09 It was, it was like the house, no, I would be the caseer to make sure to my family.
Starting point is 01:12:15 I'm to know the people, that didn't even I knew that they'd say that and that
Starting point is 01:12:20 the baby and that the mother and that is a family second and
Starting point is 01:12:24 this is a friend he went to do the thing and I started to discover
Starting point is 01:12:28 things of my family very the first is that for
Starting point is 01:12:32 generation always has been a person a person of a
Starting point is 01:12:35 horrible from from because from because in the situation
Starting point is 01:12:43 of the person took a blah blah blah, termina a
Starting point is 01:12:46 murder, the rest of passengers, no, but he falleces there. He's
Starting point is 01:12:51 going to a city and when he's a cross a car like if he was
Starting point is 01:12:55 he was he's he's a lot of a vehicle, he's a lot of
Starting point is 01:13:00 situations, assaults, secuctor, et cetera, but for generation there's always there
Starting point is 01:13:05 in my generation there was a prime that did a little, did you
Starting point is 01:13:10 do things that I I'm I'm going to that also, that's
Starting point is 01:13:14 a generation always there's a person that has abortos. Always in
Starting point is 01:13:20 all the generations. Between all the stories of family, it was and I
Starting point is 01:13:25 said, no, but in the my no, in the that me that
Starting point is 01:13:28 did it did it and I also, I got to with a person
Starting point is 01:13:34 that was a part of the family apart. And me
Starting point is 01:13:38 he said, that the Abuelo, was a type that he was made
Starting point is 01:13:43 in things supermating well, the tatara tatara, Tataratara Tatarah Abuel.
Starting point is 01:13:48 He was meted in things very oscura. And it said,
Starting point is 01:13:52 he said that he vendio a fifth generation with that his four
Starting point is 01:13:58 generations and he had had power, fame and he said to do
Starting point is 01:14:03 day of I know what think, no say to think, but that
Starting point is 01:14:08 person that me said with much security and I I don't
Starting point is 01:14:11 what we do we do we say, and I'm and you yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:18 He's my my creents is this I'm not a person spiritual. I don't
Starting point is 01:14:21 think in these things. But really you know that's idea of the
Starting point is 01:14:25 bad and it's doesn't and it doesn't but the things
Starting point is 01:14:30 not we don't and really after after this story
Starting point is 01:14:33 if I've got to that tar Abuelo, if we've sold
Starting point is 01:14:38 to us we're there's there people there's there for the
Starting point is 01:14:45 power, for the money, for questions so they're they're not,
Starting point is 01:14:49 and not they're they're not even they're they they're they're
Starting point is 01:14:53 they're they're they're they're they're not saying that's they're
Starting point is 01:14:58 that's certain never just a idea so so it's it's
Starting point is 01:15:02 a impactant no and that has much match with some cases of of malditions of
Starting point is 01:15:10 family that in some moment we've tried out of you've seen in your channel of your invite
Starting point is 01:15:15 also that that's that they're that hered these misters because because due to this
Starting point is 01:15:22 ambition of the antipasasas no and who know we have to have to
Starting point is 01:15:27 have to have to have constellations familyars no and if in constellations
Starting point is 01:15:31 families we're also have also we're going to
Starting point is 01:15:35 enter in the last story that I know the story, one of the stories that I've
Starting point is 01:15:40 related about you about you know, the tios, of the tia, the stories of the tia maliciosa, right?
Starting point is 01:15:46 Oh, of the woman that they said, Tia, but that's a family. Yes, the Tia,
Starting point is 01:15:50 not the Tia, the Tia, that's not that I'm a number. and this is a
Starting point is 01:15:55 line, but they're in those tints. It's, about the families, precisely. Well,
Starting point is 01:16:01 this story me the one, a kid, well, he in his juvenile, he's
Starting point is 01:16:06 a preparator the second very young he was going to the prepa but he he's in
Starting point is 01:16:13 an egid of the municipality of here he is originario of there so
Starting point is 01:16:19 so he is a 40 kilometers of Monterey 60 kilometers in the
Starting point is 01:16:24 distance I said well when when when you're when you when you
Starting point is 01:16:29 sometimes my papa I wanted that I had to I had to
Starting point is 01:16:32 like these uh, things textiles or there's a kind of, uh, there's a
Starting point is 01:16:38 thing that's he's a little bit of the papa, the papa, the papa, and then the mother, he was,
Starting point is 01:16:44 he was, he said, he was, he was, that area where they were, was that was a place,
Starting point is 01:16:52 the school, of the preparatorias, no? So, uh, then, so,
Starting point is 01:16:56 they're going to be, you're going to move to our family that lives in Montereyrii, because,
Starting point is 01:17:02 is the only way that that you're that's a preparatory that you get to be that you
Starting point is 01:17:07 don't have those these tralsals because if they're translades of carretters of a
Starting point is 01:17:11 mountain imagine for a machoachito of the secondary to be crossing
Starting point is 01:17:16 at the mornings in the those those carteras so that
Starting point is 01:17:20 says the she said the she had a she had a prime that lived here and
Starting point is 01:17:28 he said he said he had he had he at the first no
Starting point is 01:17:31 he at Tanta of this new house. In this new house is a daughter,
Starting point is 01:17:36 the prima of her mother, the lady had a wife's a little bit a boy and
Starting point is 01:17:42 was a young and he was a but also he was a brother of the son of
Starting point is 01:17:49 the and the the he was a case special to him to him
Starting point is 01:17:54 to he when he went to to he said he said he said he
Starting point is 01:17:58 mentioned that there was a person that was mental that was that was a
Starting point is 01:18:03 house and that he was a man, but they were the thing, you know, you're like so you're
Starting point is 01:18:08 with your and you know, she's like she's when she was a little the abuelita then he
Starting point is 01:18:14 now, he's got to be incargown to the son, so that's the time, and so,
Starting point is 01:18:20 well, I'm, I'm, the convivences is rasposa because because,
Starting point is 01:18:25 no, we know, we don't, we don't, no, we don't we, we're, If you were to live with
Starting point is 01:18:30 extra-even even if you're a family and he I was dedicated to the day of the school in the prepa
Starting point is 01:18:36 the classes and in the time I was I was and I don't sell with nobody
Starting point is 01:18:40 because well as a person that not was an person who battalienable to be
Starting point is 01:18:46 friends not so it and in the case and in one of these
Starting point is 01:18:51 occasions he he he he he said he said when he
Starting point is 01:18:56 started to when he started to have the dreams, very curious, like, very repetitive,
Starting point is 01:19:02 said at the principle, I was, I don't identification well, after that after the
Starting point is 01:19:06 various days of the same, I'm not repeated much, and it was, he said, he was a
Starting point is 01:19:13 he was, he was, he was, he was, like, he was, some of a little,
Starting point is 01:19:17 and that the little going, and he tried to get to get to get to
Starting point is 01:19:21 and he, but he, he, he, he was, and that he I said, and he was the
Starting point is 01:19:27 he was, that I was that I'm just like, of these those dreams, like the same the same
Starting point is 01:19:34 the same thing you know, and then I'm going to the school, me prepare, and all this. And,
Starting point is 01:19:41 he said, but I'm very rare, because I never, well, so I don't see, I don't know
Starting point is 01:19:45 movies of terror or something, or something on that, no, I'm not important
Starting point is 01:19:49 to tell. Dice that in one of those occasions, well, the Tia, the was the
Starting point is 01:19:54 prima was she took to and to get in other house because there
Starting point is 01:20:01 had a problem of those of the health and like she had to care
Starting point is 01:20:05 to care to that's the other the other the she was
Starting point is 01:20:10 that she was for work and that he had
Starting point is 01:20:14 not he had that he's he he's he
Starting point is 01:20:17 he's he the first that he had to get to give
Starting point is 01:20:23 to get to to the tio, no. The tio no, he was out of the whole day was there. He not came to be able to him, and he said to me try to him, and he said, but, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:33 interactual to him with him. He said, but, but, I mean, me, I was a man, a young, and a me, like, well, that I didn't have a relation, I said, well, if you have an, some problem mental, then, then I was that incertitumbrough, no, of how act, to say, then, so, you know,
Starting point is 01:20:49 so, so, so, so, but that this, he called the question because he said, he was to leave the door,
Starting point is 01:20:55 you're going to get a door, there's there's a caronera, he's, he was to get your
Starting point is 01:21:01 food and you're and you're you're you're you're you're but in that
Starting point is 01:21:06 he says, well, total, yeah I'm with much fear, I'm, I'm,
Starting point is 01:21:10 he's the door, and what I just is he, he's he, he's, miranda to
Starting point is 01:21:14 the nada and tapado so, like, with a toped, like, the
Starting point is 01:21:19 a little, like, like, like, that's, like, he's, no, no,
Starting point is 01:21:25 no, no, no, no, he's no, he's, like,
Starting point is 01:21:28 there's, like, someone somebody, a person was a bad, he said,
Starting point is 01:21:33 he, he, then he, he, he, he, he, he,
Starting point is 01:21:38 he, he went, with him, and he he, he said, he, he,
Starting point is 01:21:42 he, he, he was, a part of, some, but, some, some,
Starting point is 01:21:44 some, conditions, no, psychologics. Then, then, I said, I was up, I'm a-sue. So, yeah, I'm sub- and, um,
Starting point is 01:21:53 and, um, after the sust, I, prepare my things for the morning, and in that day, well, so on the alarm, me despirto,
Starting point is 01:22:02 and I'm going to get to the school, I, I'm going to get to the and that's, but I know, but I know,
Starting point is 01:22:08 and it's, like, it's a much, it's, it's, it's, it's, not the usual that I feel
Starting point is 01:22:13 this, this ambient this ambient, at the hour that I I'm up like I'm in that that time, it was resperted
Starting point is 01:22:19 with a relog of these of these you're gonna you know, the alarm had sonned three hours
Starting point is 01:22:26 before, had sonned at three of the morning, four of the morning, four of the morning,
Starting point is 01:22:33 no more, he said, oh, so, yeah, I'm gonna be, imagineate the, the way,
Starting point is 01:22:37 the way and the whole, I was still, I'm sorry, but I'm accorded in that moment that I had
Starting point is 01:22:43 never had said the that I had paid my Tia, he was kept abired. So, I'd have much to go to
Starting point is 01:22:49 and, well, because, how's it says, well, I said, like,
Starting point is 01:22:53 like, he'd be a fear that something, but in that was to hear
Starting point is 01:22:57 a little in the house, and I'm and I'm trying, and I'm trying,
Starting point is 01:23:04 then he did a he did a manches, a the more he's, a little,
Starting point is 01:23:07 and the little a, the a, the daughter of the prima, right? I said,
Starting point is 01:23:12 you know, well, you know, so it's a little, you know, so it's a thing to be the first,
Starting point is 01:23:17 no, thence back, and in the escalers, then the little, the room and see that
Starting point is 01:23:24 they're in the little, oh, that's so, oh, that's weird because, because,
Starting point is 01:23:27 why, it's to hear to the, of the, of the, the, the,
Starting point is 01:23:32 that were like, like, like, like, like, the, so,
Starting point is 01:23:36 the, so, or so, like, to see what, what's happening here? And where the lumbra, well, be that's the but he's talking with a voice of a little bit. So, it's like, something, I mean, of it,
Starting point is 01:23:50 or so, he did a kind of, no-seek-seh, but, he said, no, I mean, it was, I mean, it was normal, the fact of that I was that had some sort of collapse, he said, but that voice not can't be a adult, or, I said,
Starting point is 01:24:02 out of his, of his, a voice of a girl, and you're crying, and grittable, no me lastim, no me lastim, no me lawness. Then, I said, well, I enter in panic. With that, my prima, and, like, very normal, like, he left the security
Starting point is 01:24:17 abirt, he said, well, then, help me to get it, to, say, to, the , as well, to, how it was, he, they were, to get them to the quarter. Then,
Starting point is 01:24:25 then, you know, the other day, well, you know, the, you know, the reganisa that they pegged, because, well, he,
Starting point is 01:24:30 but he, he said, he said, he asked, the lady, I mean, what is the problem that he
Starting point is 01:24:38 has the problem that he's the type of a type of and they're saying, not they're to be a
Starting point is 01:24:43 problem, a molestia and the mother, the woman, the woman, she said, I don't
Starting point is 01:24:48 you know, you know, you know, but you're another, other, another, other,
Starting point is 01:24:52 another, other, other, where he could be, so, so, he's,
Starting point is 01:24:57 he's, another prima of the woman, and he's, well, trymmell to come
Starting point is 01:25:01 to do so, so, So, she was the that was the story of what had passed there. It's supposed
Starting point is 01:25:07 that he he told him he said he had, he was he dedicated to do these mediums that he
Starting point is 01:25:17 like canalisable entities and how that were and how he were to he was he was normal
Starting point is 01:25:25 he was normal had his situations of that type but there there was a problem one
Starting point is 01:25:30 that he he was that he was about to have violent a
Starting point is 01:25:34 little in many aspects and that he's he did it's
Starting point is 01:25:39 so that's a problem legal never never never never
Starting point is 01:25:45 but the people did lynch literally literally the
Starting point is 01:25:49 people that the people that was accused not
Starting point is 01:25:53 of this situation to him so so that
Starting point is 01:25:55 he is the the book of this, he said, but there was a quibre after after
Starting point is 01:26:01 that he he was a question, he was a he was able he, he not he was he,
Starting point is 01:26:08 but he said and he were in episodes, where he was, like if were,
Starting point is 01:26:14 when he had these canalsals so only the spirit, like that that's
Starting point is 01:26:19 that need of that that need, and they they're saying that that she that in
Starting point is 01:26:23 vengeance like that constantly it's posy and that he was
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Starting point is 01:27:11 Don't miss what the movie blog calls something you need to watch. Saving those children is how we all go home. From binge all episodes exclusively on Paramount Plus. What history so strong. The vengeance of the phantasm of a little in a medium canalizable
Starting point is 01:27:31 it's a sound super attract because I'm the question since I'm a question
Starting point is 01:27:37 and the one of the generalizations there's people that say the difference is that the medium
Starting point is 01:27:41 has he has done a permission and they know I know many
Starting point is 01:27:47 stories where not is so and it has to have to have been with
Starting point is 01:27:51 mediums that there's a moment in that they were in a channel
Starting point is 01:27:55 abirt and a a Sometimes there are spirits that don't want to go and
Starting point is 01:27:58 they're and they're and they're in certain circumstances and the medium and then
Starting point is 01:28:02 it's to have like a way in the memory. It's
Starting point is 01:28:06 a thing. Firt. Interesting. That's good story. This
Starting point is 01:28:10 story with that I want to give to Elena. Elena. Elena,
Starting point is 01:28:16 after three months she got a last she got the good to
Starting point is 01:28:22 this podcast and I heard about the story about the trend of the murder.
Starting point is 01:28:30 The train of the murder the has been with stories that we sent out of
Starting point is 01:28:36 those rombo to the three years that we we have we have in those
Starting point is 01:28:41 in some moment they've this type of a dream that is a
Starting point is 01:28:44 very rare I I'm I'm I didn't I have
Starting point is 01:28:48 there there of the other places these are these are the places where are the
Starting point is 01:28:58 places to get the trains and where they are in the other people are people of all the
Starting point is 01:29:04 cultures all the colors of the colors of men, women, men, andcians
Starting point is 01:29:09 of all vestimentas actuales vestimentas very antivates the situations is that
Starting point is 01:29:17 no you know no no be rosters known a sometimes
Starting point is 01:29:21 you're people a sometimes are families a a little, a
Starting point is 01:29:24 a little, a a little, a little, and there will be a person, or will be a force that
Starting point is 01:29:30 you can't get to get to a little, one of you know, the train to start
Starting point is 01:29:35 to start, and will get a moment, I don't see in exactly that part of the
Starting point is 01:29:41 way, in the train separate, and the person in car to get
Starting point is 01:29:46 the people, it is to you want, but you want to be a
Starting point is 01:29:51 other part of until the final of the train or you can't back in this moment the people that us have told
Starting point is 01:29:58 the history are those who have been backed in this moment the the creencia is that
Starting point is 01:30:03 is the train of the and that those that continue they're simply simply and
Starting point is 01:30:09 they're going to get to get to and not they're a reason that various of the
Starting point is 01:30:14 people that have those success that within the train they top
Starting point is 01:30:18 with a family that he is the that he is the that is the
Starting point is 01:30:21 What is what is what is what is going? Elena heard this story and the story she was called
Starting point is 01:30:27 elated. He said that he took like a disblocking of records that he occurred
Starting point is 01:30:33 when she had about 15 years. Elena and her family had a situation
Starting point is 01:30:39 very lamentable very difficult and if any any of the family
Starting point is 01:30:43 nocturn or someone that has been that has been
Starting point is 01:30:50 sincere, peserable, because it's something that's a person. When she had 15 years, he had a brother that for he was his
Starting point is 01:30:58 great friend, and in certain moments, his hero, and disappeared. One day, no, he went to
Starting point is 01:31:03 the house of the work, they were in six years, he was trying, you can't imagine,
Starting point is 01:31:09 the family is disgarra and deseched, first, no, they're not they're they're trying
Starting point is 01:31:13 to spend ideas, they're to be to another maybe, it's, it took
Starting point is 01:31:17 much, and for that's or not we've seen, but little, all those those things
Starting point is 01:31:21 start to get to be and the reality to get to get to be present.
Starting point is 01:31:24 It's disappeared. Nobody didn't have the minority of where
Starting point is 01:31:27 is. They've tried. They've been cartels, buscating with the police,
Starting point is 01:31:33 looking with people, and the people, they were, and then a little little
Starting point is 01:31:38 were to hear of Chorum, never knew what they was. Elen
Starting point is 01:31:43 was a depression tremendous, and he are not to subscribe to this plan.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Dice she's she's really being she's really a piece of any of the
Starting point is 01:31:57 person that's living in this situation there's there's there's there's
Starting point is 01:32:02 there's going to confronter. This that we're going to tell is the
Starting point is 01:32:06 experience of her preste attention because what he was very
Starting point is 01:32:09 very very so. Dice she she that she wanted
Starting point is 01:32:14 that was a thing was a terrible the was the
Starting point is 01:32:17 I was sentia into, sentia like if were a grand vacill, and at the same time that she
Starting point is 01:32:21 would be a lot of dachas that they cause them a lot and when I felt
Starting point is 01:32:27 that you had no he had in the tears, I'd feel like separated
Starting point is 01:32:32 of the world, like if nothing was real. Pocco I felt that was
Starting point is 01:32:37 getting the cordu not was she, yeah no was here and I didn't
Starting point is 01:32:41 be here. He was he undio very so, and a A friend said, I know
Starting point is 01:32:47 a brook a that you can't get to this. Let's Elena
Starting point is 01:32:53 came in a family very religious Catholic no he's
Starting point is 01:32:58 no, for this moment Elena was she was with all
Starting point is 01:33:03 his creencies with all the family she she
Starting point is 01:33:07 wanted she was she went with this and
Starting point is 01:33:12 when the Bruch and she said is for your brother and she
Starting point is 01:33:18 and he says you know see a no no here who's he's he's
Starting point is 01:33:23 he's so he's identical he's identical he your your
Starting point is 01:33:28 your was the and she was and she was what
Starting point is 01:33:33 you want and he said my my friend me
Starting point is 01:33:35 I'm because me you can you you can
Starting point is 01:33:39 but the reality what I want and the bruce in the Coincidences, Selena.
Starting point is 01:33:47 And she, why? You will be to talk with all the honesty. I'll say the things clear as are.
Starting point is 01:33:56 I made a work of murder. Me want to live. I'm I have to
Starting point is 01:34:02 do that that'ser. If I do do for the method traditional, I'm
Starting point is 01:34:07 to enter in a war in the who who can know if
Starting point is 01:34:09 I'm if I'm but I'm another option and
Starting point is 01:34:15 is re-enviarsel to a person. And you know, with this situation, and says, if you're going to be honest, you want to do that this job to you and see what what's the other more, one thing, I'll leave clear. If, with that
Starting point is 01:34:30 time, no, it's not, never you'll ever be able to parer here. Because what they're to do you to do you and it's to go to get to you.
Starting point is 01:34:39 Decide. I said that I said that was good. No, she said she said she said she said her, because no me invited to be there. So, I mean, he said, and the day next year later, me gave like a type of almoadilla
Starting point is 01:34:52 that was in a color morado, with an yellow dorado. And he said, no, I'll go ahead and say, and I want to go ahead seven nights'eguas, you're going to do that seven of the night, and simply you have a sonn't,
Starting point is 01:35:08 saying, this oration, since before to do, and say, yeah, was a hoaguer that I had to be reading one and other other time until
Starting point is 01:35:15 get to get to the first the first night I'm in the moment I'm
Starting point is 01:35:19 get to be dormsion, the second night had insomnia no no passable for the
Starting point is 01:35:23 third I said that's a stupidness in the fourth was a very
Starting point is 01:35:27 strange. When me accosted and I closed, I'll hear the horrible,
Starting point is 01:35:34 horrible. It was something that's that I saturro so my eyes,
Starting point is 01:35:41 and I dole in my so it was. It was like if a bocina of something that would have been tocad in the o'iddo and me was left a sort of. I'm not properly, I was just but I'm very altrued. It was something. Because the day
Starting point is 01:35:56 the next, I didn't me sentia too more. I was sent me with more more animo. It was like a mountaine invisible and me they'd have been taken to on the end of the bell in that all over was in the color
Starting point is 01:36:10 like gris or blue, me they would have been cut out of the eyes. It was very
Starting point is 01:36:14 very I'm not to say that I'm not a little bit I'm not to do you
Starting point is 01:36:21 know the day I'm going to hear the same. A sudden that me revient
Starting point is 01:36:26 to the sound so much. I'm not I'm still when I came to the seventh
Starting point is 01:36:32 night I'm I'm I'm saying what I'm doing. I don't
Starting point is 01:36:36 want to no no we're we're going to keep looking my brother and
Starting point is 01:36:40 we don't manner, I say to say he, that where it's the, because we're going, and that I'm going to, and I started different. But, but without thinking, me gained the customary that I had
Starting point is 01:36:53 done the time. Me, I got to go ahead. And I was there on a bend very antigen, very ancient of trains, that never had seen. I knew that was a same time, but at the
Starting point is 01:37:05 same time, no was a dream. And there were many people who never had seen, persons, that were people who were topos, robes
Starting point is 01:37:14 actuales, there were families complete, I saw a a little, via a little, all the
Starting point is 01:37:19 people had a rostro like if were very very inexpressive but they were
Starting point is 01:37:24 in peace and there was a that was that I had been that to get
Starting point is 01:37:31 to be and when I'm going to get my my man
Starting point is 01:37:35 from and I put the hands and me say no
Starting point is 01:37:40 you sub as Elena. No you doves, and I want to go tobrasarlo, beasarlo, I'm going to say, oh, man, you're going to, you're going, you're going to be able. But no I can't move. No, I can't
Starting point is 01:37:53 express it. But it seems that he understood and me said, no, no I'm not, I'm going, no I'm, yeah no I'm. They're, and me signaled to something that was there, that was like a sombra
Starting point is 01:38:05 black, and those eyes, no they're going to to let's let's you do you do you not your moment,
Starting point is 01:38:13 not your place, no you do you know I'm going saying, I'm saying something,
Starting point is 01:38:20 I'm saying I'm think that my only that's my brother me says yeah
Starting point is 01:38:25 I'm saying tell me my papas that I'm so they're the and I
Starting point is 01:38:30 got some and I know I'm in but but with a sensation
Starting point is 01:38:34 that I know that my brother was in other other
Starting point is 01:38:39 The situation is that all those sensations were mixed with a level of fear horrible narrator. Because what they were that a cause black of the eyes negros just paraded in front of the camera observantom me and it was to disbenecer,
Starting point is 01:38:57 and so much, all the next few weeks never, I never, I never, I never put to mention to my papas of that because that sombra
Starting point is 01:39:05 me segued to all parts. I was at front of the Spejo and in occasions I saw that I was in a other occasions getting to the house,
Starting point is 01:39:16 I saw that thing was that was there in the door of the door. I don't want to
Starting point is 01:39:21 see it. My papas and it were like if it were like she was with this and I
Starting point is 01:39:28 just came just sawm like if she had cameras there but in this time not she was used
Starting point is 01:39:34 to be that Maras there. So he sum, he closed, closed ventas, and gritted, Largat. He said, I said,
Starting point is 01:39:40 you know, he said, they're going to be eight months when that sombra, little, so it's desvanecy of the
Starting point is 01:39:47 reality, and never again never said to see her more of it. Coincidio, the emterer,
Starting point is 01:39:55 the interre in the patio of the house, and said, because I know these things,
Starting point is 01:39:59 and they said, my primus, that in the patio's there were say things.
Starting point is 01:40:04 To me not I'm costed. And with this story, me despid.
Starting point is 01:40:10 Look, how you're past you? Yeah, very good good.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Thank you. Good story. And then these questions of the train of the
Starting point is 01:40:18 murder and the great. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you again.
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