HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de muñecos poseídos y hospitales malditos |Ft. @TerceraFrecuenciaPodcast | EP 189

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a este nuevo DUELO de historias en  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE  con el buen Greñas de  @TerceraFrecuenciaPodcast  .  @TerceraFrecuenciaPodcast  está dedicado a la creación de contenido paranormal. Historias, leyendas, mitos y eventos perturbadores. Y el día de hoy les traemos historias escalofriantes de muñecos poseídos, ouija, duendes, terrores nocturnos y fantasmas que seguro serán protagonistas en tus dulces pesadillas así que prepárate para que  @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE Hablemos de lo que no existe es un canal de you tube con el formato podcast que comenzó en abril del 2022 su primer episodio fue vivo en un casa embrujada en el que una chica narro sus vivencias y sucesos paranormales a lo largo de 20 años en la casa de sus padres, desde ese episodio hablemos de lo que no existe ha marcado una tendencia en exponer casos paranormales de personas comunes que viven en diferentes partes del mundo. Ice Murdock es el conductor o host de este canal, durante casi 100 episodios no apareció, nadie conoció su rostro y la comunidad de este canal , la familia nocturna creó teorías acerca de quién era el dueño de esa voz.Hablemos de lo que no existe se destaca por tener apertura ante las opiniones experiencias y vivencias de cada uno de los invitados.La comunidad de este canal es conocida como la familia nocturna, de hecho por estar leyendo o escuchando esto tu ya eres miembro de la familia nocturna.. bienvenidoEl duelo de historias es un concepto que se creó en el canal @Hablemosdeloquenoexiste, idea original del narrador, se estrenó en el episodio "Comité de la Muerte ,historias de Hospitales" el 1 de junio de 2023 y empezó a implementarse formalmente en el episodio "Abrí la puerta a un Demonio" el 11 de Enero de 2024 ; consiste en un duelo entre Narradores, una dinámica sencilla, donde cada uno cuenta una historia y busca superar a la anterior y al final la familia nocturna nos comparte en comentarios cual fue la historia más aterradora.En este canal se relatan historias de terror paranormales, sobrenaturales y reales, prepárate para conocer el miedo de una forma en la que nunca lo habías experimentado .

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to family nocturna to this new episode to let's let's see the day of we have

a super episode because I have to give a context so about

a month there there there were there some they're they're

doing some I've seen some I liked much the stories that they said, I said,

I'm sure that we're sure that let's the other people, and those are the brother's of the opportunity of the good

Greyes, the host of a first frequency, one of the two hosts of third frequency, come here to talk part of

the stories that he has lived the long of his life. So is that I'm very to do the greenas.

Greas, Breyes, brother, how you know, narrator? Well, thank. Thank you.

Thank you for invite me to your program, and I I hope that they are these

stories to your public and about you and that we can't have a night full of terror. One

a question is this question that I'm doing to do do you know for the family nocturna that is of

the wesse from the beginning from but Greya's I have to question you think you

think you think you think I think in the paranormal so about about some

that I've been passed that I have lived as the long of these 38

years and the is that well, I want to go to little to desmenusating these stories

to see how how do you tell? Excellent. Excellent. I think Greeneas that then

has arrived the moment that you and you we have to do we know, and to

make sure in this first interchamble of stories that we have you in this

can't you know I'm going to be a story. Adelante. This history

occurred has exactly one a second. This story he occurred to Carla and Carla

is a follower of channel that has been a many events paranormal a tia

a year has a many years, and result that with the time they did know

that the money had a little and he had something because in the

house there was a person there there was a moment in the

the one the one they got a type of a type of

a And, a part of there, they've got to occur things in the house. The resguard, obviously, we'd,

we'd have a form of a car, a caja any car, or so you know that the muke,

probably probably pos a little bit of his interior, and simply is there there, guardada.

With the the past of the years there were more things, he did count that the family of

his father, and there there were various people that had certain

don't don't as evidence and they'd and they were in the

family of the mom they're certain don't know and they had to addentable

to the situations had visions of things that going to do

the bad is that normally was that was a

but a carla, not he had passed that the situation that in

all a moment that a questionable. Until a year. Carla is living a

life normal. He likes the things of terror. He doesn't the theme paranormal. It's a fiel creient in the thing that exists

something. She thinks that exists all. Existens the Oriches of the santaia. Existens the demonios

of the Christianism. There are the history of Islam. And exist more deities. And exist

the Santa Muerre. And there's Christ and the Virgin. For her, there exists all.

If they're all right of something is for something and has to be there. And it's an true.

And it's an abirta to do. No, it's a question, no, it doesn't do you

have been really, nothing as much to say, I'm going to say, I'm saying,

I'm saying, the muck to say, the day of the day of the day of a adult, actually,

he's a rumpo to the 40, and she, as a good adulta, He's living with his papas.

His papas went the end to make because they're people who are people who are

and they're to go back to the morning, the day of the day of the Saturday pastas

the night the night. That is what what it provok that she wants to

she wants to they have much esteem and they're very good great

they're to give some little little little little bit some

frequent that they take this type of vacations. So, I'd like to be a good reception.

Apart, I'm I'm not a good adult who live in house of their parents. Really, they're a

really good relationship. And she live there very well and they live very very well.

And she has been very well in the life. So, the living there

is really for the relation that they like they really because what what was

that night rompe for complete the environment that has been created in

that she has been in the dormitory she's getting the go to put the loboes

to gop some quixots that were like decorative and to just that the idea the idea

the that the certain details that they did you did it was too

that's the expectation a bit sometimes can't so it's that

she's she's that in the fourth, is waiting the papas.

Are you about the 10 of the night, and as the air conditioneded the

door is closed. No, it's done when she gets a dormita.

It's profoundly dormita. She he's up probably after

after the night and he he's not because no there's

that there in that part it's a silence sepulc

or so it Because, of a repent, there are some passes inside of the house that come from the first

piece and are up the escalers. But it when you have a good relation with the person,

you passes much time with you. And apart, you're a person and presses attention,

the passes of the people have a rhythm. All we're coming with a rhythm

determined. We're, we're a balladito, a comingado depending of our

state of our and she recognizes perfectly the of his papas. Those passes that are the steps that are the steps of their and there are

there no should be nobody more in that house more than she or her. So, with much fear,

not know, is if you see, not it's that it's in risk, but minimum he wants

to get to the camera to start the door with the door with and mark the cellular to someone

to be to be upto get to in your court, all the the

pre-des, have some repis with books, the books, they're

to be arrohous as they're to get to them to get to her. Book

by book. She is is a point in that you are that you,

it's a situation totally atypick and if in a moment

that's that's having all the party in the little she

she's she she's like she's she she's she

that she that's functioning well and it's working and it's going to be a

and he's his papa and he says, you know, you know, and she's he said, what's the

what's here in the house, when they said after like five hours, are the six of the

morning. And she but no not you don't the loudest the room,

no, no, no, no, I know, I know, so I know what you're very

very excited you're well and if it's son-o a big up a little, retumbo all. Well, we're just you that you

have you've caught. No, but you know not you not know, the books and when

I went to all the room, he said, and he said, because you did you know you're not

you're doing a bit of a bit of a ruseaso no, you know, you're you're doing

you, you're talking something, you know not, you know, you know, you're not,

you're you're not you don't listen nothing? No, just we just we're a

little bit no, you're at the six of the morning, the dream

he has been been in complete, it's so disconcertated that the

father, she and the woman, her wife, her wife of this chica, the mom of

carla, and he's very much, and he intended, and he's there, but no

he's not so that why the sky's the and they're that in

a house. It's a big that is of a whole and it's

a little because a picture that's in the other extreme of the room,

the is the picture of the picture of the video, and is

he's a bit of the middle. Dice, narrator, no I want

to live nothing paranormal in my life. Although no me passed

nothing, you understand why you're that I'm about your is different but living the

is traumatic. And one once said this, Greyes, welcome to the interchamble of the

story, please. Tell me your story. What was the first that

was the first of this phenomenon paranormal? Yes, narrator, fiftate

that right, you right, you know, a little a little a little

a little, a little Fugate that me I was when I was I'm

little when I'm thinking to think in these things paranormal was that

in the house of my abuela because normally we we've

always we're very very near because it was in the

house of my parents then then of we

don't we we didn't we there there was a

not I'm much the room to my my abuela, because the house was divided

that when you enter was, it was like a quarter very great, where they were in the cell, they had some movels. Posteriorment there was a passillo and there other quarter. That quarter was in the middle and no had ventasance, no had ventilation, it was simply the quarter there and it was

just where I'd normally in my abuelos. So, of those times that you enter to the quarter and I do know that has a

peluche of this this famous caricature of Tom and Jerry I had or more she had a

Tom that was so it was a little deteriorated but but I just it

I'm just to play with him that my my abuel me said my

he was I was so I'm then I did and I did it I'm know I

I said to my mom, and, well, we we saw it, we've been and we said, well, if you, get it, get it, we'll goce him, we'll get to do it. I'm going to

my house, and was it was my my juggete. I remember in those, in that time, was it was my

company, it was to do you, he was, he'd, to go to some place, I was,

I'd, and I was, I'd, playing with him. In that then, I was very solitary to play because I have a brother more great, but she was in the adolescence

and, obviously, no, no we'd talk about to play to me solo, so I'd grab a little, and it was part of my diversion of day-a-day. It's a point where they're going to occur to things strange, but before that, my mom was surceo, lo,

he was revisor, it was, he left the more we're new possible and, well, I used to it's a whole to come to

happen to happen that's even more more than I'm going to get to do you

and they're that you say you're okay then so what was because this this mukeito

try something so the first that me started was that I was that I

was I had in a place in a place and when I was not you

I said, well, where is there? And it was to look. And he asked my mom. My mom said, well, is there where you leave those wets? No, well, no, then I was to

get to look at and no he was and he wasntra. And of a nothing, it was there was down to the camera,

appeared in the room of my mother, apparently in different places. So in that moment,

then I didn't mean at the case, nothing else, simply said, well, it was my

my brother or my pap's and he was and they were to another other side. But there was an occasion where I remember that were Bispirass of

Navidat and we we were always with a Tia to pass the Naviad. I was

to get to that muneco. I said, me I'm going to get to bring to me and

for asares of the destiny no I don't I'm not was on

none and obviously the house of my father of not a

house very very I'm sure that no I'm I'm going to and then I feel like

a little really, we're going to pass us to the Naviida of the whole we're going

to come and when I'm going to I'm going to my court to get to and the

man and the man was up my camera. I'm just sitting there like if I

would put to that that me so it made very so

But it was something like very passenger because in that then I didn't say, like this type of conscience to say,

okay, something is a thing is something something. So, I'm made to make to make me said, but

no, but you don't you do you? And where is there? So, there's a mom,

he was that was there was a maybe, so at the maybe, it's to do you to happen

things so little where this this muke this

a little to be in other other other other

other other and he was a a little

painted but was a little a and was

roto so I said because I I I

know he was situations rare that not something

that not something something I started to have, let's, let's say, let's get a little more of the

man. And there was a night where I remember that I wasoen, and I was I, that me desperta and me said that, why

not he was to do much fear, me aterr too, I'm afraid, I, I remember that

I was I was justated, gritted, and I my parents came and me said, and I said, and I said, and I said,

where is the the manoeia? I was a night, I was at a lot of with me. When

I was we don't know we we found us. No, we did it's that they were more obsession

for this juget, then they decided to give us. to me me dolea much, I remember that me dole much because it was

something that I appreciated a and was of my abel. And it they're a other boy, to another

other of the but so so it passed the years, passed the time and a

day, I remember that I'm coming and he's and my mom and you say

you're you do you did that you're the Tom, he said, I said, ah, fiatte

that I plated with with the and I'm talking of something very strange. And I said, the chis'est that when he was

he was for his his son. He started that there was a time where the little was very

with the little bit, but that started to occur with things strange in that house,

what that never had passed. So, to a certain way, they were like reclaming to my mom for having them

gave us to get a jubgette. And mom said, no, because we're not, but we're not, we also had been in the house, but no, we had an idea of that could pass all this. To not make long the quote, the papa of this

child, all ver that occurred, things strange, and they'd do acchaping to the a little they've got this peluche she she was

she he said he he he's he's he's he's he's

he he's he's he's he's he's he's in the

patio of his house and what they was that that

when they were that they were that they were they they

had but that not he was calcinable so so

for they started to have a little of a little bit of a little of water and they were a bit of water and they put it a way of it, they did it like an oration and what

they're saying is that every time that ardu the mone, the muleko they were heard as like of a cerdo. It was something

that me impacted and never I I understand the why I was with my abuela, was never was in a rinko

and the why I was and I gotre to play to him. At the day of today and after that

you've been this channel and you've heard of events, of situations, of phenomena, you have

done any idea with what you're, with what you're having contacto? Jolet

that, no, I, I don't I would, I mean I imagine because it's

something that you know that's but no so, no, are the

some of those times that you block you and you want think that that

that that was that was some kind of some type of demonio but

the most extrano was that not I'm not I'm

a certain point but no I don't see, is that I'm the

that's, that's that's more that's not the thing I'm not the

thing, the fact that just disappeared to happen,

of a repented, of maybe, but not felt like me

physically or like that could do more more than

that I'm that I'm and that was like my partida

for my father No, not you not the physically but your

comportment is it changed, obsession for the the objected a attitude

distinct, the, like a kind of for something that's that's not a lot of

a really, no, much much because it was, I mean, literally,

I said, literally, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was,

I was, I was, I'm going to work and I playing, imagining things,

tendrily to be in one side to the situation, say, there's a situation,

like, for, for having the mukeke and, and try it to be a part to

a little a newke that you could be as you could be, it was like a

not was, it was, it was it was, I was I was to make the,

the, I waser, the, I was just about this, this peluche that in

reality yeah, it was like if had a life, for so that's

so I'm in a little time, the past of that that's a new, you've

had been very interesting to know where the demonio or why it's there. Yeah,

that interesting, that's that's, that's, that's, that's, is that the things

in the houses, in the families, are things very locus. In question of the toys, there are

the toys of line, there are those jugues that are some people for vend to something. There are others that are doing, no? And it would be that the point no is, a lot of the design, the construction, the structure, the materials,

but, is the fact of that it's a jugget and that has access to the children, there are a house that, of people very very very

that the time of the other has been a lot long

to be 20 to 25 years. No is a time

that all the time be there but every

every new a something something that the first

so the first of the final of the

90 initial of the two two with a

furby they bought a four a a little, that

was a little, that was a little, he liked them much, he saw a see a little bit of

a guy, and from that he was that they were the new new the man, the people, the person was the

furby, it was a very feo, but at final, well, I, I was there

a paco, like, a guy, and it was an animal peludo, and they were,

they were just, they were a combination and that's attractive. So, so,

just, just, then just just, the problem was that that was that was

that was when the father's talking about in a house they were when the

minute when the little that was that was that they not they were like

the thing is cabroo paranormal something or something that's

only the father he put to be malas he was in the middle of

a unto and that sonar the sonara the was

to be in the madrugat, and that that's muneko to start to be the little bit more.

What he quit that's the more. And now I was more in different moments of the day,

sin pilla another. He ranco the cajita of cableados, thinking in that of some way,

could be being being a thing, that person, but he said he'd he'd be

the car but he can't the car there's, there's there's there if

there's a way in that functioned. Well, a part of the arrainked

the carat if there's a bit of the bus of it's to make a more guttural like if

if I'm talking about but I'm going in different moments of the day. That

history they affected because when it was that there's there's

that they did a house. Offer of the house if the not the people

not were not they're in a bottle of metal to they're

they're they're they're tantita gasoline and they they're

They saw come. No, no no other event. When he went the kid.

Where is the Furby? And they were there and they did it. And no he was

a little when he was a little, he was really what was really what was what we

did? No, but the quere no got to some mugre and he

said, he said, that's interesting. But it's when he is a adulto that comes another

baby to the person of him He just had to have his first son, the most

little bit of the family now, and then when they're consintinging, they're they're

something that not accord for the child, because the little they're not a year, but at

final, without having a good or wanting to smelar much, he got

a motoclet grandota that was that was that was that was not a age,

of the actually when they were all the people, he said, Well, it's that the

thing is for you. This is this this new. This is the motorcycle

has a lot of the motorcycle has the same And the whiffa not they've not been to get

to make the house because no it's not a time

in a place in a place in a car in a carhont

up up that that again there is a time.

There's there's a time that's a problem of the members of the family.

But I know. that, that maybe if it or someone there's something,

he took something, that maybe he was or manifesto or manifest things that were in

that house. Greyes, what was, you you know, this question of the thing of

the thing, of the age you know, I'm, I'm, I'm

about the seven, almost eight years. Okay, what was the second

event after of this and we're going to from the primary and we were together but we were

like there juggeteing with other groupito of friends and we were about going things,

and we we were going and we we were going and we're and we're so there so

it's much the mentado or tiangis no so okay so there there was a tiangis

a market just that was a all a whole a but, but, but quite long.

So, for to get to our houses, we could cut out for the

market, for the tiangis, more well, for the postos, and we

get a bit more to get us to get us to and that not we don't know

us and we get to things, then we get us and we just right

and just there's a secondaria, the whole where this tangis. So,

we're we're the market and we we went on one of a, say, we're a barred of the secondary,

what is yeah the barred of the school, that barca that's almost a half-quad, or more of a media

quadra, and in that then those places, there were only some other other

so much a lot of the day. So, we're going, and, obviously, over the

two, the caries are all the mercaders that have those So, there are some

files of cars, one after another, and we're going to there, then we're going to us to finder us. Justly, I

am I go into two cars, and my friend, it's going to do, and at moment of that I'm

I'm so I'm back, I'm back, between two cars, to be in I chock

with something. At the moment of that I'm with something, I'll and I

do a point that the moment of this figure was a

person little a little a one a 20

or 20 or there is more a calva with

a nose very big and some her and

a over he was a was a was

his mirada was the most penetrant were in those eyes

and the moment of the I'm and I see, we're we're

we're we're we're we're and he's he's he

he makes a kind of a sort or a arm

that me a I'm spant grito I go

directly going directly going to where my my

my my my my my friend, I go I go and I

go back and I don't see to that. No, we've absolutely

nothing. I was we're all all, so, we're all, absolutely nothing

that that's that was a that I took it. It was something

super, super extra extra I'm, still I'm very vivid that

that that was those those , the ,

it, and, well, obviously, me was very disconcerted and a lot of my house. When I went to my house, I'm a little bit of my mom, the situation. And, well, the first thing is, you topast with a dwind. So, well, obviously, me said with other words, it's like, for to go, can't even, you, topast

with a dweenerd, and you to carry. So, then, well, I'm I it's still and then we're and then I'm that's,

you know, you know, the stories of the people, and then I'm listening to you, I'm

I'm going to that if is very probable that me has talked with these elements with something that in

your dimension and in my dimension, top and those frequencies chocated at the same time,

in the same moment, in the same space. He was in the dimension, I was in the

my, and I think it was a hazard, something, I don't know how describe it,

that just in that moment, we gave to one of the other, and our

reaction was we didn't we were not we were so that was

my my next experience that I recall much because I'm a more more

more than and in a way, I, well, I, well, I've been

more, I've been past years of this, you know, your investigations

more, all the other the movies, etc., you have topado about a

one way some that's something that is a that's that

that you've seen. Fiatte that being there are different types of, well, that they're different, I've seen that there are some that vary in the size, varian, in form, in characteristics. Obviously,

always are always they're like very ligated to the nature and it's that in that place where me lo, more ahead, there's a channel, there's a, like a canal of water and there much baldier. So,

thinking that situation, I said, well, not is so that's so that's a bit of

the city, because you're in the city, because you have to be a lot of that's a and it also can't

say that was a gomo but I think, for the different zones in where they

are some more European than others but I don't, I don't know, the fact is that no there's

a relation direct to something like I'm a super special because not was very typical

to be a no see the boyito to the little little little little

little of eyes of color this was a man he was his eyes

were his eyes their eyes and was a person adult

anciana but with a a body of a little. Oh,

and the pupils, the pupillas, the were circular like the human. Yes,

totally. Totally. Yeah, but it was an amalryal, but it

was a kind of redondo. I'm impact it much to see the the eyes.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There are

very, very extrano. I mean I'm much in the stories that

envi how go, and go, and There was a story that I sent out of

this episode for this episode for this practice with you because it's the first time that they're that they're

that's exactly of what they're talking about. There's a there's a child who has a father,

his father is a man, he's a house since much time in the he says, look,

so directo in that house is there are three women. Are, so three women

that are vestiges all the time of the time of

and they're in the cabello said the three are are very different. And the has been seen, and I've seen a two. My man has seen a little bit molestered

like if you have the intersejo froncid he says, but she not, no, no,

it's to be able to be specks, and if there's a little bit more or a structure or a

structure of a matter you, you'll see that's and it says, and has a

interseho fruncid, it's like if it's like a mollesta, enojada, no

despide a sensation, a essence like if you'd be a menace but it's

strange. The that was something that I don't me I want to top never,

Nunca, never, he said the he was in his room, when he

occurred this, we've never had ever about, but I had said,

he was he was in his room, and he did a paralysis of

the soion. So, in the paralysis of the suey, he

can't move, but he can be how he can be the

window, and for the reptando a woman, all vestida of black with the hair recogied, and when he

gets just front to him, he's got to start and he starts to come to be a and he's and thence

to be the wall, then he the door. I know that is the because I was because I was

out of the court when the door so it and then it made that made, and when I

saw me, he was he was like if some to armarer to his camera, bolted to

the the door, and he could be to get to the room, and he

got to know the and he's a great, and he's to get to and he was a

person cobarde what he was a terrible but I never to pop

me. But the that really really really does in the

house is that that person that woman that that

saw my my boy and she of eyes reds

has has a that's hypnotize his his cabo recogied

but so see that the the color ruby very

ruby very brilliant and it's of a exceptional the situation with she is

that if you see in the miras see that the so the

sonrisa that has a there is something more in in her mirrored

as if a second intention and always that you know one of his hands

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full of the same. And that there is where he's where he's going to the man. And he says, that thing is a point of to do that certain of to make do that you're going to

go to get to the house I'm going to the door to be the

way to she's she went to see his own and she was one of the

experiences more that I've lived because because that

day I I'm not a good in that house

no no I know I that was that

that was that was that there there there

there there and there are spectros and there entes and creatures that we don't we're not termed to know

but good Greene to have you have been contact with different types of phenomena and quite

strange. For one the the juggette you mentioned demons because there many many

changes in the comportment that could be a bit but also

but also it would be the effect of chane dundes for

the appearance disappear and the rasked and the Although there are some theories

that say that sometimes these, these of the back astral, the cures, they're doing for dohends

for the not those, not those take them as so much you've been in the two situations,

Wengreneas. Okay, well, following for the line, because fiftate that

just right that I'm talking like, I'm doing that they're doing quite,

that is, they're Right. Right. Right. Right. I'm... I've got a... I've got a daughter of approximately eight years.

When so, she was she had between two years and a half and three years. She always was a little that was very rapid, she was

very rapidly, and, the truth is that you did you all the time. And there there was a

moment in that time that was a lot of like with terror nocturns, with pesadillas,

she was up with the eyes desorbitado and trembling then it was to get to get us

and to and calm her and were various episodes that so said so the

really to me preoccupable much because I always I've been creient

of the paranormal and I feel that this type of situations in the in the children, well,

sometimes there are a little more of precaution. For what so I

commented to my mom, and my mom and my mother, me said, well, is that

do a order before to do pray to the prayer the

Lord of the so, so I, so I then I did I because

my family is Catholic but I know so I'm like well, like,

yes, like no, but always have been like, to have a

little of the kind of and the kind of what I did was,

let me put her a cross of San Benito in his camera,

in his cuna where was and to do an or a

orac for this was that had function because

he had to have these terrors not nocturns,

Pesadillas. But there was a moment in the I saw that that I was

like, I was like I'm, I was with a little and it was a

little she was she said no, this no, or no agarres

this. And it was like, what I'm I thought.

I thought that could be a situation of an

was a friend imaginary, was that was a little and I was a child, then I was he's a little, I'm

doing. I was a very much that's a time. We're in the cell and the

cell communicable with the kitchen. So, we'd see the kitchen

at the front, it was the cell, it was the tele-prendida. We were

only with the light of the tele-prendida. All was was in the kitchen, it was a time of the night, and we're just going.

We were playing with his mukechita and all. This, and, and, of a she was, she was looking to the kitchen.

I was giving the back to the back to the kitchen. Then she was playing, I saw,

she was, I see that's quiet, I, and I said, and then I said, so, so,

then I was like, and me said, and tap the mouth with her manita

and me he said the mono there's the mono so I'm

I'm spanked of the actually I know right right she put on the

skin and and and he and he he and

he I don't see nothing and she was she

was she was with a face and I

put all the I mean it immediately, I put, and I said, what, what, you know, what, I said, what, mon? I thought, I thought, I thought, I'm, I thought, I thought, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking to, the mukees, and then I'm kind of, what, what's happening? A part of there, well, obviously,

I, and, then, what's going to, this hour in the house, what's, what's, not only are the terrors nocturns, or the pesadillas, I'm going to do things, activities, move us the move-a-moveles, we did this type of situation of Fenshue, you know, to keep things that not,

limpeer, decombard, do you, like, to open the windows that enter the sun, the wind, all I, I started to, or I,

started to, some more of these articles religiousos, and I'm to try a cross of San Benito and to leave one to

a year. A part of there, yeah no it will be to pass nothing

but right hila one and one and one I'm I'm

know that they have a relation what is the relation that is

with this about the the the the dond the

of my I see that I see that I

don't not I'm not saying sincerely not me

had past, no, I mean, I don't know, I don't know say it, no, I mean, no, I mean, no, co-relationated but it's like, or it's the same, or there was a, like, like, related to what me was I living from a child. Yeah. You think that the mono that's being she could be what you did you see in that place?

Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I mean, I, so, I mean, I, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought, I thought in that's some kind of,

of, well, no, so, a child, or something, and so I, and so,

and so, and so, but, but, being what I have been living, I,

so, yeah, he, he's, he's, he's, I'm thinking, yeah,

I'm, how you know, a, so, a, a past of these experiences

that you have been, you, you, denominas to you myself as agnostic

give me your description what you the form in the you you know

the form I'm not I'm doing the way to well for to be medical

so I am based much in the science and all what has to

a final of you know is not not real

or real but I do I'm not I'm the

mandatos the mandatos simply I think in the force of the universe

that there is something that is there much more more more than we're

more we're doing the the church okay you're talking

of the agnosticism is more well enfocism is a question about a

more there is maybe another reality that we don't

we're not we're not. Ceres for some people those don't

in the medicine of the psychiatry this is this they put name

and apegid in two seconds right but there

there many there many that it doesn't that doesn't

that there doesn't you do you are so

are areas that are that are that are

that they're chockes. Higolet, it's a very good question because no is, I don't

say, I don't in what I've lived, if I know, how,

how differentiate one thing of other in the sense that I'm not I

don't don't say that not I'm obviously I'm in these situations because

me have been past but I'm refug in a condition

totally spiritual. I mean, obviously, a part of what happened to my

my my protection of always has been the cross of San Benito, but and

me has functioned to a certain point in that way, in that that way,

but I don't know, I don't I don't I, I'm, I'm, I'm,

the part of my conscience that's is perfectly to differentiate one and not

I don't try to make to make sure you do you think you are you are there

are you are not even to make a cause generate a a un, they're

they're they're they're never you never you know and it's like to

get the more than they're not they're so I'm I'm understand but

I'm a bit now now that you know I didn't know I was

no I'm not you I've said, there's there's some of the has some of the

other people, for normales, for me they're doing a certain value of obviously this is a

big, but it's also because I'm not because I know how they live the medical,

the protocols, the protocols of the health. For questions in those that are

to pay 100% to the science, because there a quantity of

legalism that are in the day-a-day and the to be-seer that if it's all the career, all the time, all the effort, so can go back and even can't have some consequences more grave than simply to lose the career or the license. So,

I think it's a moment in the way, not that's a zone of comfort, but it's a moment that's a grisette that can't romper. And there there are medics that have lived, situations that are inexplicable, but abutably not they're going to be able to be able to. because the rest of the body medical

they're going to say, and it's it's a because not going to do you're to find out of

something that has been to get to get to do that laboratory and be able to replicate in various

occasions but a question, to you, to your people, to your

people of the people who have passed to the medical, things that you know,

this, even that I do it admit it, or more difficult that's

no, has no, we're an reason why we, we,

I, I, I, I, I, I'm, this, well,

this, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, veterinary,

but specialized in neurologia, and I have, neurociences human, a

masteria of So, I'm going to the two ambitos. This me succeeded, uh, standing as a medical veterinarian.

Stavamos in the hospital and we're in the turn of the night, of guardia, is an hospital 24 hours. I was with another medical

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The repente was all tranquill, we went to a descanser a little, no, there was a lot activity, the patients were well. At the moment of that we

we're not, we're we're just that something that something that something in the consultory a place we

we're we're we're to see we're we're we're they're

or derramed water just in the mess of exploration so it was

so it's so it was nothing to try to water we we're

we we're we're we're just we're we we've

we've to recosted and in this moment we're

how they're like they're a mess and but

something something but something we're we're we're we're

we're they're not we're we don't we we

we we we're we we're that one of the quadros

that are there are that they're they're a

more information for for for the patient or the

patient or that quadro that was a page that's it was

it's it's not a piece of it's because it was a distance

sufficient as if if it was that if it then we the

crystals over the mess we we're we're the that's

all that's all the all the and we

we're we we're we're to look the logic

and this was too and I remember that I remember that I'm a

recogedor I'm a regressor but of those times that you go and

you're my companyer in that moment then it starts to barren

and in front just in front and was all the

hall to the cell and there are a crystal totally

that communicate with the So, it's I see that's

it's looking, it's looking directly to the door of the

door to I look to be what is what is so

that's so at a door to the door of crystal we

is that is that it's a kind of if if

they're just And, and there there's another, and there is terrible. I record

that's terrible. Wow. And we're, we're going going, we went to, we went to the part

of the back, where there is like a bodega. No we didn't we've got

to mark to, uh, uh, uh, to other medical, uh,

the chief of the hospital and and us we're talking what was

what was passing, let's know like that someone wanted to get to

come to because if not we're not they're to make to make so they're then they're

a 30 minutes they're they're they're they're so we we're

we're the things they're going directly to the cameras to be

to be what he has happened and just there is where we we're

how the crystal well the quadro, it's going directly

to the table and we don't we're we're we're

we're we're we're we're we're and then the other camera

that directly to the door we see our reaction but

the most strange is that no he can see

not but we're sure not only I saw he

that we've seen cars of like if were some some of those people

that's they're not in the question because not you don't

be not so they're not because not they didn't physically

nothing so so so there's only they were the

hands that they were they're in their and they

they're so that side, other other, I mean, I don't

I can describe to tell you to get a 100% what I'm a, it was a

revoltijo of emotions. And the first we did we did it for supervvency was

to go, you know, while you've this situation, this situation, so

what was? I'm talking, I think about, I think, and eight

years. Eight years, okay. In this situation, you've got to perceive if

there was some a change maybe environmental a back of temperature

a problem electromagnetic so terribly it's really an an air

free in all the hospital yeah of the now

now now so now so the peros so

they were so but they were those just

when they when they saw when so when he broke, when it was when there was a good,

it was a, like a, like a situation of that all be alarmed. Of each, the most extrano,

was that after we did we, we said, but is that the perros did not, so the

patients were all all all the patients, they were, and that was when we saw that was being

that was we're getting for the video and all, that was when they're they're

when they're alterates, alterados, like if something like those put it with terror

in that sense. If you think it's very interesting the reactions of the animals,

because a sometimes, for a lack of observation, let's adjudicable

that his reaction is for something is, but there are cases like this

in the that's happening in the event and there a reaction to

then could be that if there is some kind of

some kind of under the method scientific, that's how you do you get to

a case of a is a question of a question, a bit of a bit of

a kind of kind of effect in the years laterous in your emotions, in your thoughts?

Well, yeah. MEDE MEDO, but what what I did was like a desgaste of energy during all those that semester, it was

like, it was kind of strange because it was like, just when it was justly entering, like if you chuparren the energy, I felt a can'tasad, me dolea the coy, me dolea

the spalda, it was like, like, like, something, that's, sobess, and,

and, and, and, and, and, and, it was, going,

Let's say, let's a certain a little to little, it's a hospital

has a three and five years. For the time it's an hospital of reference a hospital

that's a very, very, very, very, known here in Guadalajara and,

and, and, those, other, those people, they've passed other things,

and socesively, no? But you know, do you're in the hospital? Yes, yes,

a bit, let them some of some of some of them. Okay. this one of those that's

that's one of the all of those all the all of the time on the turn nocturno in the day

no matter but in the turn nocturno all it are all these areas in the hospital

that are the patients post-churgic the patients hospitalis of the

unit of care of intensive the area of felinos the area of

infectious all are they're all are all different

so one of the medical that in that guardia,

well, they had been their activities, the patients were

and he is a recosted a moment. At the moment of that he's going to

have to have to a place and he was always like the area

of the laboratory because was the first the most the most the

kind of he was he recuester a little and he he

he he he he he said he said that to

be Totally, all tranquill, he'll just how the Ochuchan, they're going to be chich, but very paged to the earha.

So, he's a he gets up to all the but no be to nobody. So, yeah,

like he entered the need, because, you know, so you're to say, no, no, manches.

So, so, so it's, so he's out of the laboratory and he gets to turn

the lights. When when they the At the moment of that prendes the area of the patients

hospitalized, they're the lights the lights of the back. So, he,

yeah, with fear, try to go to talk to talk to other medical, as,

what's, what's, what's, something, and at the moment of that is,

he's, he's, he's, he's one of the haules, and one of the

perros and, and, obviously, he want to get to

get to because if not he's going to get to the perrough he's he's

he's he's he's he he's he says no me to

me to do so in a certain way was very

he was he gritt so that all all

all all so a so and what they said

is that they he was a, how is it, like, an attack of anxiety, something hysterical. Obviously, they got a perr, he got a haled, another way. He was imparable, and, of the actual,

I remember that, the day next, was the news of the hospital, but, they got to have to a cross-Berdie that's there, for that they'd

do an auxilio, because if it was a bit too I'm going to hyperventilar. It was a situation that unfortunately

it was to be a to be a desertara the hospital. But, it has been one of the

things that that have passed there, there's there with the animal and the

hospital. Oh, and this person, I don't mention a name and but

has a name and name and you know, you know, you know, is a person

real and you took to see to see to see, so me

I know, I mean, to know, I mean, to know, I mean, to know, I mean, totally. And then when I was, he was going to, he, he, he, he, he was toldable, but, or so, is impressive to be the car. So, so, his car was transformable totally when he, he'd get to the point, yeah, when he, He's how I've

he said that he said a little yeah yeah that's never I've never seen of someone

that I'm a way a person to someone to get to this type of events

with with animals that so good good great

good grue good what what you have been the have been those events

a ass behind the manga I'm a I'm a another that's a lot of a manga

and precisely with one of my little of my own yeah yeah me you're you're impacted

with the stories for a forward so far this this is this

so I that I that I'm talking much before to start to start

to to study medicine veterinar human and I'm I'm

was just in the preparatory approximately when, well, more well, more I mean,

I had I'm a pastor an American that's a little and was a man, and was it

was a very good, the first, for so to say the perritts that we had been in

house, that was that was, I'm at a house, I was all right

in the house. Not was a not. It was a person, was a

person that was a person in the the house of my papas, well, is not very great,

so we didn't have his space, we're to come to get him, and we're a little,

super, super, super, careyed. The inconvenient was that there in the

house, we've never have been, always always have been stories that about that

all that colony occurred like a success strange. Those, in the

other of those those of those extra-strains in the house, because of a sudden I'm my parents that they

had to be they're doing and they're things, the point is that there's a story

of when they started to find or to construct all those houses in that

that in this barrio that in our house there was a

there was a when it was the the terrain in

construction. The point was that's the legend that that that

that's felles just in one of the quarters of my house.

So, it's like, like, and my parents always were like,

no, well, is that the bellator there's the room and it's

the more of the more, no? And my brother, and my brother,

so, always has been, like, perceptive, as my good Primo, the pink,

that are very perceptive for this type of things, are very sensible, and my

her always always used things in the canica, that of a

little bit of a machine, you know, of those machines to write, and then they're

the teut, so it so, so it's like, so very extrano,

so but she always has been very very valiant and he has been of there

was all the life almost so I'm a point where is the

perro and it was all was a little but he was

to have to have a different and there there occasions

in that all we we because between the studio

the and the house and the house It was that, the repent, the perr,

entrable to the room and and she was in a, in a, in a rinkon of the

the, what he was like the corner of the two paredes, he, he,

he, he was there, he, he, was there, was, being, looking,

to the nothing, and you're, and you you had to get to try, because he

and he, hey, no, no, but he'd until that you you'd chiflavas

and like yeah reactionable and we're and it's never a way to do the world and

he's a many times various times so and then we know we know that we'd to get us

to something we'd not we'd suggestionar and then also apart with the context that

I've done to the velator he had fallacy then then we're so not

not I don't perjudicable the environment. So, I was a day, I brought the door, no there was

nobody in house, no, I saw the because always was to get a to receive

and I know it. So I start Jager, Jager, Yager. Nothing. And I

said, well, where will be? And I remember, then I know, I know where

is there. So, I'm, I'm went so very and when I go

and this this is to you know just because you can't see my my my

skin I go to the door I'm I'm going to the corner

I was there was there was there was the perro was

being to the side and only the only that

I could could I could common, I don't know if, to give me to understand like if if it was being rindose, but in

in, in, back, so, like, he, he, he, he, he. It was super-terrador. Right, I'm the right I'm really, I'm

know, I don't know how many seconds was that that I, that, that I, and when reactioned, the first I was to

to peg her the p, p, p. He did a big, the perr

the dog, he's and then then he he's he received,

and yeah, all all normal. A me caused much a lot fear.

It gotre, I got to get to see to see what was

going to I'm talking to my mother, and I decided And we decided that we're going to blocker

just that skin. And what did my brother was put put a, like a ropero, that was, well, more than a, no, see,

a bookerer, that was a, kind of a corner of a skinner. Aha. And he was put there and a, a figure of my, San Miguel,

Alcangel. And, well, that is what what was what what was with my my own perro.

Wow. After the figure of San Miguel Archangel yeah no, the perro yeah

yeah, he was there was there but yeah not that that's a thing

yeah yeah what that what that's so at final

that interesting and related with your profession no

no me ever never never this this type

of this time yeah what good stories I

think this this is a a second invitation for a duel

to put there another talk about but well before to terminate a question how you're

super well super well and me made you make sure a lot of things that no no

no no manches right me me I'm I'm I'm

to get to another other other other other of

those things that we don't have been I'm

thinking totally. I think that no those have talked about in, uh, in any

a lot of, and, and, and, I know, me, me, you've,

me, to, to, to, a, really, it's a good, because I

love to , I'm going to talk the stories of the, the, of the, the most, the,

it's, is, is difficult. One, a, before to terminate

this episode. Yes. If vivista these situations and were

aterradors, why a channel dedicated to thematical and aterradors?

I think I know, I know, I think that's I've been

I've been in contacto and I think I've been a

good for this type of the things and, we

always, I have I'm fan, I'm a cinephilo of the movies of terror, of the books of terror, of the stories of Stephen King, of the stories of Lovecraft,

of the stories of Alan Poe, of, I mean, I've always been like in that rubble and when we had to talk about with my,

with my friends, with Gambis, with Joel, with Pac-Man, well, we always about this. We always we've been

the stories, always we've about about of the movies, of the stories that we

were in general, of what we've done with stories that we had gone,

that we had been to be that we got that that was that they did you

and why not in a podcast and we we'll let us and we we're

that's a bad idea but we're we're we're we're

we're we're we're we're Well, my, where they're

doing you? Well, we can find as a second podcast

because now in all the platforms. And, in my Instagram

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is where me can't find out for that we need to

another episode so another other other other other

because you more because you more and a

great family nocturna I'd I wish a good time and that you're good little

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