HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Historias de posesión, demonios y exorcismos | Ft. @RelatosdelLadoOscuro | EP 179
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This story is of an exorcist.
In where,
of a sudden,
he was a lot of
a badgerid to someone,
but resulta that
barbarity was a revelation
of a secret of that person.
He'd had the things
occultas.
He'd have been six exorcisms
with the young.
The young
had been
much, and
in the conversation
with this entity,
with this demonio,
that maybe was one
or various,
it's reveled.
Welcome to Family
Nocturna,
to this new
episode of
let's
of
what
no
exist.
The day
of
we have
the
episode
more
expected
for
the
community
the
episode in
the
that
the
time
that's
that
that
was
that
this
this
this
them
and it's
a
great
coincidence
because
the
invite
of
the
day of
I
we
have
talked
and
after
this
time
to
this
time
and
coincid
a
amount
of
a
commentaries in
the
same perspective.
So is that
without the
good friend of our
good friend,
the master
can't the
Piedra.
How is it,
my good
good nights.
Good good
nights.
All the
good nights.
All right.
Excellent.
This
format of the
duel of
history simply
actually
two rules
for you
that's
the first
one, is
that in the
moment in
the moment in
that
you listen
in the
first
relato
that
the
gusto and
they
do
fear,
you can
subscribe to
the channel.
And the
second is
that if
if they're
to be
to be able
to get me
to know
in the
comments.
And once
said this,
I want to
give the
good
to do the
question
with this
exorcism,
liberation
and possessions.
If
me
permit?
Adelante,
for
favor,
we
we'll
hear.
The
case.
the
of Carlos
Martini,
a
sacerote
exorcista
that one
a
little
a
extra.
Carlos Martini
not is
prepared to
to be a
exorcist in the
camp of action.
So,
is that he has
to take
certain
precautions.
The chick
she has
said that
she has
a tragedy
very
very hard in
the past
the
months,
in the
past few
months.
She
lost her
and
did it
did a
house,
she
he's
a result of
his
family and
a
he was
a
little
he was
he offered to
get
in
his
house.
But, since the first day
that's been to live
that was the first
started to occur
in a way
very strange.
She commented that
in this place
there was a little.
The house was
pretty,
it was a lot
and a great,
but in the moment
in the time
in the time in
that was
a little
something was
it was
like if someone
was very strange
because she
confused
and began to
start to
to give
to
this sensation
and
I'm going to
do this
idea of
some type of
paranoia,
maybe it was
the situation
that was
that year
and I'm
to think about
his perceptions
and I
thought,
I was going
to be
getting a
lot of
stress and
of many
times.
But it was
rare because
this
not occurred
all the
time.
It was
in different
moments
of the
day and
there were
moments
in
that
that
sensation
was
when
when
he
came
the
the
And he
he went to
that
maybe in
that
there was
there's
a situation
escaled.
What
occurred?
That of the
nothing,
where there
messes,
where there
repisas,
in those
there were
objects that
had been
days or
days or
some
those objects
were
going to
and she
were
and she
she began
to be
to be
when she
she
was
she
still in
this
place
and we
know
we can't
we
got to
to lose
all
is a
sensation of
vulnerability
tremendous.
When
it's in
this situation
now with
fear,
there's
something that
really
actually
does that
she
that you
get a
calm
the
music.
Commience
to
sound at
the
sound of
a
music
the
the
days
going
passing
the
sound
the
sound
he roba the
call
a
And then she
started to
investigate
where it
and a
day he does
know that
the sound
that the
house of
a room of
an apartment
in the
she has
had been
to not
enter
because the
he said
to her
house
she was
she was
she was
she was
she was
she was
she was
that she
was
that she
she was
she
had to
try
to
the
door
the
repis
a
little
When she
a
cajita,
the cajita
the cajita
begins
and the
skin is a
dogina, the
blood,
the same
to go to
the
she's
full of
fear.
Toma
the caja,
he'll
get to
let me get
the piles,
he doesn't
get to the
batteries,
and he's
that the
and not
can't
get to the
the
house.
The
caja
seems like
if it
had been
put
on
tornillos
or pegated
or
like
if it
had a
so
great that
it was impossible
for her
to get
so that
simply
thinking in
that's
that's
that's
that's
a little
that she's
she's
she doesn't
to understand
the
the key
the key
in a
time
is
turning
and it
is
that
the mechanism
that's
decided to
keep her
and the
moment
in the
the moment
in the
the
calm a
a
calm, a
past
a
It's
the
place, and
at the
moment
to
the
door,
the
the
car
musical
is a
action,
a
start of
a
little
a
little
every
she
she
is
thinking
that
the
car
music
has
son
the
car
comes
to
sound
and
she
is
that
that
she
is
like
she
is
like
she
was
so
that
was
she
she
still
and
she
really
there
because it seems that he lea the
mind and every
every time that's
the case
it's not,
and no there's
no any mechanism that
is actually
no one way
that's not that
so is that
when he decides
to get to
get to get a
little
another guy
Carlos Martin
a sacerote
that is
initiating these
experiences
to develop
his ministry
of exorcism
so
so is that
he says that
it's just
you have
a case
it's a
It's not a
case
that's a
relevant and
you need to
see
it's a
case
really related
with a
human
or simply
is a person
with other
type of
problem.
He
about this
person and
there is
something that
is a
very strange.
And that
is a
certain that
is a
that is a
thing is a
common
two little
factors.
The first
the child
the chick
really
with much
auto-control
the words
that
uses, are correct. Not is a person
alterated, not is
a person that is a cargated,
he's a manoe of nervous. It's a person
that's a person who has studied. It's
a person very intelligent, a person
that could have a conversation
casual any day, and it would be a conversation
that you'd enjoy. That's not normal.
The second, is
that there's a lot of himself and he says,
Father, I don't know
if this has to be with the demonio or has
to be that my head is failing.
But, for favor, helpen me.
And I said,
The father,
that's
my attention,
because in the
cases that
I've done,
and while I've
made a
matter, I'm
made sure that
when a person
paces in
his faculties,
it's very
difficult to
that I do
of his
self.
So,
so I decided
to do that
the man,
and I
went to the
house,
something I'm
did the
impression that
the things
went to
that the
things definitely
not
to be
with some
thing
of some
thing,
it was,
it was,
it's,
more
malign.
She
abre the
door of
the house
and in the
moment in the
door
I can't
see how
there's
a ventilator
in the
techo
and the
ventilator
to be
totally
fixed,
it's
to be
to get
little
and
conforms
me
going to
get
to
move
more
faster.
And
the
moment
in the
cross
the
umbral
that
that
was
in a
turn
in a
car
and
he
began
to
turn
that
all
the
papers
revista
roba
that
was
about
He was up and
they went to
and they
after that
he putt
instantly as if
they were put
a frano
of the man
there was
that in that
there was a
back said I
did I'm saying
my resos
my plagues
and in the
moment in the
water
took the
piece
I heard the
car
musical
I
this story
that this
woman
me had
told
me
I did
that was
that
was
the woman
Muartre
Mired of
Mvoteo
and he
said,
it's that
Maldita
Caja,
it's that
Maldita
music.
That's
what I've
been
I've been
I'm
my time.
I'm
I'm
went to
the car to
and I
saw the
little
little
a
little
plerias
of
liberation
to
let me
the
car
was
sonar
and he
put the
hand
and the
car
paro
all
instant
and
no
there
no
no
there
no
no
a
returned
the
caja
the
case I
didn't
any
a piece
it was
like it
was a
little
it
and I
was
where I
was
the
the
the
case
was
no
was
no
nothing
no
there
no
there
no
that
that
that
that
that
that
was
the
first
encounter
the
car
martini
with
the
diablo
and
the
manifestations extraordinary. And this has been the
welcome to the Master Canta the Piedra to this duel of
stories. Very well, very well. A great
story, very impressive. It has to
have to be with some aspects of the most
peculiar of the phenomenon of the
sedio demoniaco. There are various
phenomena that are in a possession demoniac
and that are from the more
little,
to the
most
profound.
One of
of them
the initial
would be
the
assedio,
more
known as
a
subcundatio
where
occur in
many
little
phenomena
that
have
this
characteristica
of
a
kind of
I'm,
I'm
put a
put you,
I'm
the
put you
do you
get a
thing,
it's
very interesting
what
have been
what have
been
talking
and
obviously
coming
of Carlos
and
well
me
would
start
to
about
about the
first exorcism
Christian.
I know
that is a
realto
modern, but
it's a
reason to
retomarceism
has to
have to be
the elements
that today
many years
after the
years after
the phenomenon
of the
possession
demoniac
and the
first exorcism
obviously
it was
Jesus Christo
the first
exorcism
Christian
I have to
clear
that the
Christian
because
not
before
of that
there
there. But the first exorcism
Christian
is the
when Jesus and
his apostles are
visiting the Mar of Galilea
that in reality is a
lag. They're in the
or the area of that
the city, they're there
talking with the
people and, of
the point, when to get
the time, to Jesus Christ
he comes in
and it's a man
the idea of
a lot of
mountarse in a
barquita,
that not is a
barco, but a
barquita,
with a bellita and
we're going
to Gadara.
Gadara was the
city that was
at the other
extreme of where
they were
to navigate
all that
all that was
the night
and well
the disciples
well as the
master that
we're going to
say you
go and they're
they're all
and she's
a barquita that
he's accrucate for
there and soo
when once it's
a tornado and
that's put
down the nabbo
because
they're in
Undying the poor
Hombes
Those poor
He says,
Maestro,
we're mottom
and Jesus Christ
and he says
Well,
and yeah
He's
He'll get
calmer the
torment, no
so what's
going to
And it's
a night
very intense
Passa
that
and you
and now
more or
less
a
morning
midodia
of the
day
the day
the
back
on the
side
in where
was the
city of
going to
the time and,
and of
a moment
comes to
a subject of
the most
strange.
There's a
version of
the evangelio
that said
that were
two subjects.
These men
were indemonial
and all the
people,
all the city
was about,
these
were,
they were
in the stumbas,
for
there were
in the
cryptas
and
they're
in the
other
other
the other
the
other things
was a
thing
they were
had been
Those had
subjected
with cadenas,
with grisettes.
It was a
era of a
little bit
primitive.
It was realists,
but the
Romanos
not they were
with chiquitas.
So,
so they were
to do all
the aridots,
well,
the grillettes,
the cadenas,
and resulta
that they were
they were
they were
they were,
they were
the chains,
they were
what they were
the
but more
even,
they were
on the
night,
and they're
doing all
the aridos
similar
to the
the besties,
to the
animals
of the
desert. It was a thing that
spantabaed all the world.
The Gaderen, the people
of the city of Gadara,
I knew that no
could be able to
go to the
area of the cemeteries
of that area, because
they were these
and they were
such the force
that they were
not they could
contain them, even
they were not
they were
such the force
of this possession
of this
thing that were
indomables.
And of
the point, in
when Jesus
gets,
boom,
He atroar the barquita there,
he's back from the barquita,
he's going to be
someone, if they're going to
to armarer those,
even though,
even though not it,
the part human of Jesus Christ,
he preoccupied for
things such as
as much as
what they were
to be in the
barquita
all the night
and they're
looking something
when of
soon it's
that's the
one or two
of those versions of
the evangelists,
that are those endemoneated,
that are
they're running
and they're
they're in
front of him
Ante the
Asombrough of
the world
because also
they've been
because they've
had given
other people
who were
they're
they're in
they're doing
they're
they're
and they're
they're
they're doing
we're doing
we're doing
we're
you're
reclamandul
obviously
they're
they're saying
for favor
let us
let us
in peace
we're not
we've done
we've done
we've done
nothing
we're
we're
Christo
he says
categorically
I'm
I'm, I'll ask you abandoning this
person. And those
demonios
respondent saying
that no they're
saying, that why,
that there's too. And it's when
he's asked his name.
Jesus Christ
asks, what is your
name? To what
that's the name
says,
the name is
legion, because
we're many.
It's saying,
that those who
were those who
were those,
then Jesus Christ
says,
well,
I don't,
that abandones this
the
question
is,
for favor,
don't know
the opportunity
of that
we're going to
that we're
to get us
there,
there's a
there,
a pierre of
a sardos,
that we're
that Jesus Christ
says,
Adelante,
abandonen
this
body and
they're all
and they're
going to
the cerdos
and resulta
that the
and the
endlokees
and
they're
to be
to be
to the
water
and they
areoged
but
those
or
that
any one of two versions,
immediately
is correct.
They're cured
completely.
They're used and
they're sited
with Jesus Christ.
When they're
when they're
they're gonna
get a lot of the
people,
well,
there's a moment
in the
the more
on the
barquita and
they were
other side,
because the
people don't
know what
had occurred
there.
But that
first exorcism
us gave
various
lessons
that they've
used
using
to the
long of
many
centuries,
of exorcism
and of
work for part of the
church. The first is
those creatures
had Sansonism, that is
a characteristic particular of
the persons endemoneated.
There was sansonism.
Second, there was
a knowledge of things
more than that.
They were to get Jesus.
And for the ultimate,
they're reconnocied, the
power divino, that is
another characteristic of
the endemoneados,
that is Eerognosis.
The hierognosis is the
discernment
on objects
sacred.
If you
a endemoneado
you present a
bottle of
water and you
rossies and
result that's
the water of
the
the law
he's
the same.
But if
you do it
with water
and it's
a quen it
a
fire.
That first
exorcism
did those
poutas
that
the
casually
they were
to
he said
in his
language
nativa
what
signific
that
they had
had
the
characteristic
that she
also
also
as a conglosia.
Always had been the
question of
why they
they're
to go
that's
for you're
to make
the first of
the
and it's
and it's
not quite
the response
not clear.
Also
there's the
question
why
why?
Why
were you
were
they're
going
and they
were
they're
not
the
not
to get to
to
go to
a
run to
why?
Why have
done?
The answer
is
that when
a
by a demonio.
For example, in the case of a
human, it can affect it
but the essence
human is much more
more than
that can be
in an animal-it
but at the same
time the terrible
of this
is that
it is that
can be
also
the
animals of
the animals
that
that result is
still more
more than
a phenomenon
that
and if you can
not can't
the naturalness of the animal
not so they're
not going
be there
imagine if you
what would be
if we're
talking of a
gigantesco
perro ferro
and for
some reason
he gets to
get to
one of these
demons what
would be
so that's
the first
exorcism is
very impressive
that those
endemone
and they're
being
we're going
we're
going to
for example of
the Kfarnaum
that is
other
another case
even
in this
dynamic
is the
second
exorcism
when Jesus Christi goes to the synagogue, and result that there, in Kafernaum, in the
city, there was a endemonead that accediae to all and to all agredia and
and it wasult that was that was in the synagogue.
That's signific, in terms of general, that a lot of times the demonies can be
so far as to get to meeter still in the temples.
So, is that you have to have to be careful with that.
Vena, adelaide.
Cedo the word to our friends, to let us to what no exist.
What tremendous
relato.
The
manifestations
extraordinary
of the
demonia,
without
some doubt,
are something
that crisp
the
skin,
makes that
we question
about the
reality
in the
we've
and there
a type
of
manifestation
extraordinary
that during
much
I've
had a
documentation
in
a turn to
that
or simply
were
dim
and d'
directs.
Just
for this
episode
me
toped
with
a
video
of
TV in
Chile, a video that the
people can
go to be
having this
episode, there
is a YouTube,
in the group
of persons,
some exorcists,
or in an exorcist,
a priest, a
exorcist, a
priest, a
other person, and
a type of
investigator,
commences about
different cases
in those
they've been
present and
start the different
manifestations.
There are the
manifestations
extraordinary
that are
very
very amativeness.
But,
for many
the other
has been
a lot of
has been
a
effect
very
a why
is doing
things like
the levitation,
like when
the people
start to
get to
get to
seeming
movement of
serpientes.
A,
an historian
comment that
one of
his first
encounters
for him
was brutal
and it's
when he
a little
a little
two years
that not
was
contained
for six
persons.
That was
that was
the first
that was
that I
saw,
I
didn't
that was
one of
those
manifestations.
And then
when
when they
started
the
the
the little, the
little
to retorserce
to move
a guzzan
and then
as if the
gravity
not even
didn't even
any of the
power,
she was
to get to
the wall,
until
get to the
door.
And so it
was something
impactant
was something
was a
traumatic,
it was
a lot of
very
very strong
the power of
these
manifestations.
Just
the
sacdotes
about that
they're
that
the idea of
this manifestation,
showing
his power
and trying
to do
the people
that are
being
being victims of
this
aterrador
spectacle
be over-coged
and the
fear and
invade to
his
car.
But there
a case
in the
special
and a
type of
manifestation
that me
impact a
much
just for
what
I mentioned
I,
I don't
know
if it's
something
that was
something
they're
not,
and in
this program,
it's
there
position
or
exist
indices
of
possession,
for
the
world of the
dreams?
And in
this case
was a
thing that's
about a
child.
That's
not exactly
the context
of your
past,
of the
because
they're
going to
about
that's
that in
his
dreams
they're
they're
visiting
two
women
and
women.
These
women
are
bestied
with
the
woman
not
there.
No,
there's
their
only
something espantoso,
she has
they're
very intranquila
to the
point in the
point in the
point in the
those dreams
not are
normales.
Conform
they're going
advancing
and they're
that these
presences,
that these
people,
are they
are they're
being
that's
that
problem with
a barrier
physical
and
there's
a moment
in the
time
in the
hands
of these
people
over
she
one
once
that
that's
that
is
it's
a
barrier
extrana
that there
and
they'd
and they
have
manifestations of
the world
in one
of these
women
and he's
a man
and he
makes a
mark the
rostro of
this
she
she'll
get
the marcus
has
these
has
made
made
made
by a
picture
are two
markers that
are very
two
one in a
position normal,
the other
and the
manifestations
are
to take another
form.
Yeah,
not only
is the invasion
for
the invasion.
The invasion
is in the
world real.
Yeah,
not is the
only testigo
that maybe
is doing
that it's
doing that
many people
think that
that's not.
Now,
now,
in the
school in
the school, in
the
that's
there are
people,
there are
people who
are people
in their
people in
their
people.
And this
child,
and this
child,
she makes to
She's strange.
She's, she has to have
her own
commences
erratic.
So,
is that
they can
to do
give to do
some type of
spiritual.
Terminand
with some
sacerdotes.
And these
sacerdotes,
as a
or a
procession
to do
the
she, the
she
says,
in effect,
what she
is some
kind of
possession,
that no
is a
matter and
what's
what you
know, and
it's going,
but it
has to
have seen
in the Glosia,
and he's
to have
situations in
that's
the
lot of the
and he's
to talk
and he's
and he
about the
people who
are there
and they're
that's
nobody he
had ever
but it's
that you're
that's a
question, it's
that's a
matter of the
way of a
same.
It's a
Terrible because it's
because it's
vulnerable
even in
the
times,
and that
in that
when it's
a state
when it's
where it's
where more
that's
the most
the contact with
the people
during the
times,
obviously
we're more
vulnerable
for the
asedio.
What this
she has
has been
very impressive
and
and they
can resolve
it
because of the
contrary
can occur
what
what he
was to
Clara
Germana
Selle
that is
another
story
that I
would
to talk to us and that has
talked to. Clarke Hermannacelle is a
case that's a documento
very amplomentate at the
beginning of the century 20.
And all this
transcurre in 1906
in Natal,
South Africa, in
the south of the
continent African, in the
mission of San Miguel
Archangel.
There, there was a
child in particular, a
chicker originaria.
There they were like
Kaffir, is
a girl of tess
oscura, in a mission,
in an installation
religious,
primarily of the
white and
also was an
woman.
The chick had
been taken to
the death of
the parents when
had a four
years.
Practically no
he knew a
family.
Her family
was the
own
congregation, the
monks,
the chardotels,
and the
other companions
that result them
were casually
many of them
were children
of the
colonisators,
of the people
European
that was
there.
So this
youngcita
had a
problem
multiple.
For one
part,
he had the
assedio
of
the child
the
little
of the
men of
the people
and the
other side,
even in the
person who
was in
the
mission.
She
was a
little
segregated
because
was the
work
she
was the
other,
his condition
not
was a
very good.
Aunner
even a
an
woman
a
It was a person common.
Not we're going to say that was a chick
that's a child
marvellousa.
It was a person
absolutely common.
Until that
the proper monks
were to make
that something
that something
to make sure that
that's a matter
because during the
night,
justly,
when all the
world was going to
get to be to
the room
and the roomia
clara,
they were to
start to hear
and these
rumors raros
were very
attracter the
attention
because not
simply
Rises,
platicas or
things that
could be
between
some chicas
not the
other things
were parted
and a
sometimes
the holgory
there's
very good
with the
cotillieo
of what you
do you
this
were different
the ruses
and when
the monja
opened
the
the woman
was there
was there
was there
in the
room
but the
other
three
that were
in the
same
abatation
were
they
were
in a
changito's
because
this
woman
began
to be
RU
RUes
of
animals
strange
ruidos of animals
that
were so
that
they're
even
to the
monjas
the
thing
is that
in that
this
she
began to
live
the
episodes
similar
as
the
so
that
in
where
he
was
a
bad
a
person
but
that
that
that
that
was
a
revelation
a
thing
was
the
things
obviously that
people
had their
secretitos.
And of
this
little time
this little
hour of
the food
and he
would be
a bocah
to someone
his
infidelities,
his
pecados,
his
things,
until the
point in
that they
had to
get to
to
not
that's
that
that's
a
symptom
classical.
One of
the
one of the
phenomena
of
one of
one
person who
is
just
under
possession
demoniac
is
the
clariv
know secretos of the
persons,
to be able to
things
that are
to the
case,
and obviously
those sonnids
in the
nights,
the point that
they were
the
people,
they were
to get to
a room
to do that
a area
special,
and then
that this
was a
thing was
a
night,
it was
the
light,
the ruses,
but
all together,
the monjas
entered
in panic.
And then
then I'm
to the
other,
the other
feo,
in where
this
womancita
of
they tried
and all the
world
was going
for the
force
discomunal
that could
be used to
the phenomenon
of the
sansonism
and the
new account
and this
document
much because
in this
convento
in this
mission
religious
there
had many
people
interested
in this
time
and they
they were
and they
and then
one of
those
reunions
while
the
monjita
is
that
she
says that
you
and he
got to
to
a
one
levitation very documented
to declare a Germana Selle, because the
testigues that were there, did testimony
and participated in redacted
an informe ecclesiastic for
that was authorizer, posteriorment,
an exorcism, but they saw it,
not only floated at costada,
but also floter of the
two forms, putting to alcansar a
meter 50. The levitation
also is a form classic of these
phenomena, and also was the assedio.
into the phases
that's the phases
that's
the obsession
in where the
things
van and they're
that would be
the case of
the
life of the
situation.
Then you
the vejation,
the agression
physical,
the lesions,
all this,
in the
camin'clock,
in get to
the
problem, you
know,
the only way
of a
a single way of
a trap.
And a Clarra
Germana Cele
he was going
assidated,
and
was being assediaiaed,
be flying. And obviously
he was in panic.
Of course, at night of the
night, it waspertable, and those
animals that the rest of the
world, she saw, she was
like if they were there, not her, then
all these phenomena
external, that
would enterian into the phenomenon of the
circumptatio, that
roada, that daña, that lesion,
they were going to, that finally
accepta the possession.
She recognized
to have made
a pact. In
middle of that soledad, because,
the mission was out of natal, not
not was in the city, was out of
in the middle of the nada,
there, and in that
obscurity of 1996,
the only
that was to accepter.
And then they
started the problems
feos.
But she preserved,
as well it
occurred in all the
cases, conserved,
a dejo of
reasonabion.
And one of those
after those
after after
came to bring to
the monja
superior to
ask you to
asker to
asker to
call to the
that was a prophet
because he had
done a pact
with the demonio
and in that instant
she's bolted and
she starts and
to retorser and to
do things raras
and to be
a person
a manh
enter in panic and
he's all right
and he's
in the water
and he's at
all the
power of
the cura
when he comes
when he comes
a cura
clara germana
is in a
kind of
monologue
extrano
because for
one part
she's
the voice of
the girl
that pide
no-se-ke
and that
like if
like if
if it's
if they were negotiating with
someone and then a voice
strahysmina,
gutural,
profound even
the rostro,
saying he has
triedionated,
that what has
done,
he has done,
and she responded,
saying,
me engaged,
like if
was a
woman, it's
a moment
terrible.
All the
people who
came out of
the demonio
disputing,
because the
demonio
he had
been made
that would
be free.
Of all
what he
was the
thing,
and now
was the
the more, and is when finally
it's after after various
tracts, informers, that
are still, he authorized
the exorcism. The exorcism
was the father Erasmus
Horner, of origin
German, and an Italian.
I don't recall now the
apegid of the Italian, but
he authorize the exorcism
and it's
first, first,
the liberations initials,
the benditions, and then
the exorcism, to the
long ago, all the day.
From the amazer to the anochecer,
and finally, she'll be
to be to-do-do.
At the day-sufficient,
continue on it, and
she can comeulgar and assistir to
the church, confessing,
and she's considered
liberated.
During the ritual of
exorcism,
however, there was
things phenomenal, because
the chick, of
a little,
and they'd beckxed
and they'd
try to getrard
between all,
for that,
because they'd
that idea,
that in some
moment,
he'd be
to escape.
But no,
They'd have.
Nowvently,
it was a
animal, like if
if it was a
animal, it
was even one of
the monjas
that was subjecting
received a mordedura.
No,
they're not to see
these details,
these little
details are clavis.
The mordedure
is clave,
because that woman
not could be
mordidid
if really
were the mona
what was
what wasia
because then
would be in
vestida and not
would be able.
But the
could mordered, and the mordidur was similar to the picardura in a serpent.
It's what they readacted in the inform. But, well,
all were felices a couple of days after when she
regressed to the calm. And you said that you
said that's about the history? And you're
that's going to, me, think that with that you're going to
that if they're playing for there, a partidita with the
diablo, that if they met in a jugadita of Uiha, or if
they're doing a pacted for there, you know, yeah they
did they did with that
the rest the cur?
Well, no.
No is
so, and no
pass to.
And no
passed, because
Clara Germana
Celle,
still was being
assediated,
because an exorcism
could do
many years,
and not
it's still
a lot of
the water
and a
benditia
and a
thing you get,
it,
simply,
change.
And in the
case particular
of Clara
Germana Celle,
more
Tard that
that
soon
those
dreams,
more
later
they're
back on
those
sensations.
The
Pad
Horner
was
in a
exorcism
of a
day,
yeah,
it's
very,
but it's
a
day.
And that's
a
year,
and they
had
to
repeat
the exorcism.
And
for
the
whole
whole
was
happy,
although
it
during
two
days.
And in
the
second
day,
when
finally
all
all
we
We did we did. In the
environment, it's libero
aurenauseabund, that
provoked that all of course
had to be able to
get to get to be
a peste tal,
that was there were
a million mortals
and only was
that she was
that little,
a little,
morenita, chica
of origin
African, in
middle.
And, well,
two days,
yeah.
Felices,
all, and the
life still.
And,
again,
they commit in
a error
garrafal,
because Matthew,
the evangelist,
narrs,
a episode
particular,
in where
it's a
When a person is liberated, the demonio
is a little.
And, he begins to vagar.
When he canza to vagar,
he says,
I'm going to regressor.
But no regress so.
And regress a seven demonios peores.
To what is it?
To what is the exorcism
no complied?
Enviance to where I had to
invite to the demonios,
what occurs is that regress
seven times.
Clara Germana
was
newly
posseed
and murio
five years
after
being out of
the convento
because
he was
he fells
for cause
of that
and so
the demons
not can't
not they
can't matter,
not they're
to be
you're gonna
to you
maties
or you
get used
to
you're
so that you
don't
and that's
what was
what was
what was
what was
resisted
more.
And he
22
years when
he died.
No,
he's
where he's
his tomb.
He said that
was cremated
with the
body was
cremated.
So,
I said,
the word.
Wow,
let me,
let me
do what it
that's
what a
story.
No,
I know
I'm not
I'm
really
impacted,
and is
that are
many
data
about
about these
manifestations,
the
impact.
Me
really
the
question.
this question
related to
the effect
that will have
to have
over the person
and talco
not is a
game.
The people
many
times enter in
this terrain
and then
it's just
a chascarillo
or an anecdote
and you know
and the
repercussion
that can
get to
get to
that's
a percentage
the possibility
that you
occur is
a
but if you
occurre
is the
success
that maybe
will
destroy your
life
and it's
very
very amative
because
in
many
stories
of exorcists.
They mention that
it's difficult
to do you
do not
of the person
is a person
is having a
position or no
and that
has been to
because
if the possession
has
been a
has been
so evidentes
it's very
probable
that he has
been destroyed
part of
the
psyche
also
also
also
of the
part of
the part
organica of
the person.
And then
there's
because
they're
because
manifestation demoniac.
And is that
these processes
of dictamines
in those that
a person
human is trying
to get to
get a point
of a point of
view,
in the time,
what is
a thing, not is
a single.
Tal-be
we,
as we're,
as much,
as this
information,
by the
movie,
we're making,
we're doing
the
things,
we're
in some
people,
they're not
they're
that all
the days
are
almost
levittant
and
separand
life real are
human
and there's
an exorcist
in special
that I
me also
to hear
his relato
because it's
a man of
human of
the human of
human and
that's
very transparent
in his
vivences of
these type
of situations
and is
the father
Vincent
Lambert.
The
father Vincent
Lambert is
a type
very
very
very form
to express
and he
said directly
that he
he said to
him he
had to
be a
exorcist
but that
never
had never
never
ever
that
is a very
that he has
said,
that he has
that's a
lot of cases
those that he
have to be
because I'm
that I'm
doing my
vitality
my vitality
a much.
And after
these cases
he has been
what is what
does,
Padre,
a
a church
that's in
or a
day,
I need
I need to
start
only and
to come
me a
elate
and I
need
in the
soled
in the
trying to
get a
lot of
something
it's
tremendous and depend on the
and this
father with that
humanity, with
that honesty,
he has passed
things extraordinary,
things very
very fertes.
He comment
that in an occasion
one of the
other of the
other cases
that has
had been to
when he
got a pastor
to a
Christiana,
that this is
very important
for many
of us
that we have
a lot of
religion,
a lot
that we're
sometimes we
we're transformed
in in
in a
type of pleit
of who has
the reason and
what is
the correcta
when
they're in
the camp of action.
Much of
this
serkania
to see
can't
support and they
are people
of people who
are the
same religion
but have
been this
type of
encounters and
they have
this time.
So the
father Lumber
was he
was he
and the
pastor
he said,
we said,
we need
our help
we need
we need to
you need
that you
need to
this case.
He said
definitive
I think
that is
an act
that has
to be
with
some
questions demoniacas. This
chica, a day that was with us,
he started to manifest our
people around, that was impede
yeah, to be in a calm
to be able to order the case.
He said, never had we ever
seen, no is a person in the community,
has a story very strong,
we want to the tendas.
So, he says,
let me talk to her. Let me
see, but you're sure,
he says, but it's
almost a fact, but it's
a case, but it's almost a
comment that when
she's a
chica,
is a,
is a
woman and
a child,
is a woman,
if she's very
very disgastated,
physically and
mentally.
So,
there's a
person that the
life has
had been
done it.
So,
then the
woman,
she starts
a story,
a story, a
story terrible,
that I'm
really a
because it's
totally
consularable,
but it's
about,
this,
this woman
is this,
this woman,
and he says,
for favor,
Padre,
help me,
you're
going to
and it's
very
important to know that
in the
actuar
of these entities
of these entities
demoniacas
a lot of
a person
a profile very
legalist
and his
formulas linguistics
implicate
many things
so the
father,
then getting
this,
detienes
with the
conversation and
he says
I know
but Jesus
will help
you know
and if
you'll
give you
do you
do that
says
that in
this instant
as it
like it
a
movie
the
woman
Volta,
with
other
mirro,
his
eyes
at the
instant
they put in
reds,
his pupils
are in
their little
as far
vertical,
as if
was being
a
person, and
the
voice
begins to
see us,
and he
says,
this woman
is our
we're
we're
we're
going to
you know,
you're
going to
get to
the
thing,
the
woman,
he was a
person,
the pastor,
the pastor,
saying,
he comes to
a
God,
because he
not
he was prepared
for this
type of
situations.
There are to
understand that
not for
not for
not for
these sastores,
they prepare
for this.
It's like
a type
of,
and the
specialization.
But
all those
there,
this scene
was a
terrible.
But the
father
conserved
the
calm.
He
had
experience
in this
type of
cases
and
he
knew,
he
he was,
he
was a
body
to make a
bottle of
the
water
over the
chica,
the
roseia
the
woman
assota
and the
moment in the
when a
a sot
and gets to
rugir,
and it's
retorsers,
they're going to
start to
hear of the
he's
he's not
the calm
and the
woman
and then
he'll be
to get in
a time
but not
here.
That's
they're in
a capilla
and he
said
why not
tomorrow?
He's
because I
have to
make to
this
not a
question.
So,
the
so of the
time
you know,
you have
to get
a
preparation
very
very
there.
There,
one, meditations,
Misa,
your
your life, especially in those
days, you have to
quite the type of
life that you're taking.
So, then I'm
aserke to all the sacraments
and I saw that
had to fortlecelser
in my spirit,
because this situation
was a strong and
this woman was
suffering.
Much.
The view in
a capilla, and
in that capilla,
in the moment
in the moment in
the moment in the
when the bandige,
his eyes
again, they
were to transform
and they were
in front of
this entity.
We're
The rest of the
We've got the liberation
And it was a moment
In the moment in the
Pus the man
On the man
The woman
Cuy
Like a type of
Descanso
But it's
Retorcing
And it's
Like to
Pyrrida
And he's
And he's
And he
I'm
And then
I'm
I remember
I'm a
Insufflo
That is
Soplar
That is
Pidirir
That's
That's
that
get
and then
recubbred
this
woman
enter and
it's a
minute
in the moment
in the
moment in the
thing
it's like
a
wind
tremendous
had
in the
capilla
and the
the
carjou
a
a
speed
and
a
point
and
the
woman
fell
the
and
the
repopal
the
recal
and
he
all
all
we
all
we
to know of the
light,
as if the
woman,
for a
moment,
would have
had
never
another
other
that's a
point-upal and it's
the
time.
But the
Padre Lambert
is very
judicious.
And as I
have seen many
times,
never I've
heard of
about to
an exorcism
of a
one one
so it's
very probably
that has
been like
the initial
of a
process.
The
blessings
initiales.
It's
correct.
And you
have
said
something of
what
more
interesting,
this
that you
have you
mentioned about
that
there
a pastor
that
not necessarily
a
Catholic.
And is
that there
is another
relato
that I
have
that I
love
much because
the
exorcism
we're not
we're
we're
the idea of
the
sacerdote
Cue
Blanco
stola and
another
one of the
most
pictures
and
also that
has
much
relation
is the
exorcism
of the
daughter
of the
first
this case
me
because
also
is very
very
very
elements
the
first
is that
Basilio
was
the
Emperor
of
Constantinopla
there for the 880, 890 of our era,
a little before the initial of the Ad Ad Media,
was the man
and was a very man.
It was a type violent, cruel,
that no had a major impacho in
to kill a who were.
It was of the first emperators Christian.
And he was going to the Jews
for all parts.
He had decreededed a series of edictos
that had been with the Jews
in all the region.
And Constantinople were the Empire Byzantinole
Then it was enormous.
Any Jewel
was a risk.
The only person
the one that
really really
appreciable and
was his
mother.
He had a
little
14 years.
It was the
little of
his eyes.
And of
a good day
they'd
have to be
to say
that the
daughter
is doing
things
raras.
The emperor
practically
he's a
case to
the emissario.
How?
What are
things raras?
A princess
of the
emperor
has things rare. No, yes, sir, is
not there's a princess. No,
there's a princess. You know what he wants.
Well, is that he's a caminanded for the
wall. Well, obviously
he was to recognize that if it was a
little rarrow.
Despite of that,
those other problems. And the
other problems were, how
transformed the rostro, how
had things strange, how
vomitabot, objects,
how was retorcea, how
even agredia to the
persons that were close.
Like, if it were, precisely,
an animal feros, a beastia.
They had to encirrary.
Trajeroon to the
medicos, no passed
nothing. The medicos
all were all lastimated,
because, also,
he had a force
incredible.
Entered all the eunuchos
reales to subjectar
and, well,
he was to
all right, because
he had that
that force and
it was not
to have been
very grandota.
In a
time in
that the persons
altas median
one 50,
some 60,
so it's
that it should
be of
a personita.
And it
was a
force incredible. Nobody
could with her.
They were the monks,
that the region was
orthodoxa.
So,
they were to do
the same.
They were
and they were
disbaratting this
chick because she
lesionable.
It was horribly
damaged and
had been a
fear of that
a good day,
a rabino.
And that is the
case that me
I like much
because that
rabino
had a
don very particular.
This is the
Megiat.
A.
is the name
of the
book where
the adventure
of Shefatiah.
Shefatiah
was the
rabino.
He's
to ask
the emperor
to ask him
that he's
not going
the secretos
because it's
affecting to
his
people.
It's a
type with
some
those carcone
enormous
because
he's
not that the
time is to
he's not
to get the
He said the rabino, Sheffatier, received the mandate to
to be to be the emperor. No, it was for gusto.
Received a mandate, a night received the mandate
divine to go there. And when he gets there, the emperor
is destroyed, is it in the sui. And so it appears a rabino
a judo in front, well, a point he was to harkarlo.
But, of prune, the rabino, he asks,
has you
a problem
with your
daughter.
No,
I was
but at
get a
question
that something
he's a
person who percibe,
is a
man saint,
a manseur
of the
Kabbal
the way,
the
god of all
these
things,
and the
emperor
that he
says that
he says,
I can
help
the emperor
no
is to
accept or
no.
But
me
you're
to do
a
change
I'm
to
ask
a
And
they're the grits
and the
aleridies
of that
there's
there's a
total,
he says
that's
she'd be
she'd
he,
not I'm
he.
Entra.
And the
first
that's
that the
demonio
that's
the
person who is
he says
here.
I'm here
I'm in
this
person because
I'm
because I'm
to get to
me
and he
the rabino
he says
well,
no,
you have
to be
in this
person?
No,
yes,
I'm
I'm
to be
to
have to
to
this
CERpo.
A me
I'm
to be
to be made
and he's got to
and I'm made to
back to get to this
and so on the discussion there's.
a discussion theologica, elevated,
a result that the last
the day,
that the demonio, the
thing is that
the room is spantadish
because they're in rudiments,
gritty,
lamentes, and
they'll ravin
to rest.
In his
language, that
old, the
Jews,
to restar
constantly and
all the
time, all the
time,
until that
finally,
he's,
he'll be a
little bit
the door and
he'd
that they'd
a vasica
of plomo.
All
the world
is thinking
like,
and for
what?
And,
and he
the vasiga of plomo, but
yeah. And yeah, finally, they
they're done the vasia of plomo, and
appears the man very content. And
behind of him, the
little, like, she
nothing, ambrienta,
with ganas to comeers to, what he
put in front, without the
markers horrible,
those. The emperator
la braza with an
great thing, and he
asks the rabino,
what you want, a change. Pidem
to me,
tesoros, pidem, what you
want, properties, castillo,
or what he says, and he
he responds, that quitter
the edictos.
And respectes to my people, because my
people, as well as the
two,
he wants to his
children.
And the emperor
Basilio accepted.
Finally,
he was a secret.
Why?
He did he did a
vasica.
After the various
days of the
luch of that
that shella,
finally he
got to
the demonio,
or the demonios,
those
he gotpoh,
they let you
to the vasica
of plomo,
the tap
and he
put the
name of
God.
The
Antigua
name of
God
that
only the
old
the
master
cabalists
know
the
famous
Shem
the
word
he was
and that
did
that
they're
after that
he
went to
the
river
where
there
was
there
was
the
basing
with
the
finality
that
that
nobody
the
nobody
your first
relato
with the
cajita
musical.
Dime
what is
what there
there
was the
those
old
were
incerabing
to
the
men
in a
series
of
the
name
the
that
that
was
that
a
big
a
book,
that
someone
didn't
get
to the
view
obviously
not it
not it
not
not
the
altos
cabalistas
so
so
so, so on the
time, it's always put in front.
And if you're abers, it's
there's right, and what is there
into, will be in the
life. And that
case in particular, I mean,
I've got, although it's very
antigo, we've got various ideas,
and the principal is that
not only the
Christianism and the
sacerdotes
Catholic, they're
potestat.
You'll go the
power.
Adelante, for
favor.
I want to
make to make a
question about
the Dibuq.
We're talking
in the
Kabbalists, in
the Judaism,
and in the Christianism,
are they talking
of the same
entity,
are talking
of the demonies,
or the
conceptualization,
the theology
of the
of the chalalists
and of the
judas is
distinct and
they are different.
Basically is
the same.
The demonio
is reflected
from the
text most
antivus
the Torah
it's a
well,
the Torah
manage the
same as
the same
but the
old texts
cabalistas
also
different
levels.
The
demonies, conserved,
as being conserved
their hierarchies
and they're
and they're
being there.
And the
surgiment of
this is in the
same time of
the apparition of
Abraham and of
the first patriarchs.
So, the
Christianism
still
still looking
against the
in essence,
we're
we're looking
against the
most
monos-parlantes.
When the
Lucifer is
envied out
for revelars
is rebella because he was
a beautiful,
sabio,
powerful and how is
that God
created to these
monos
parlants and
them do all
his affect
and they
the salvation
and they
the
librio
that they
they were
they're not
that it
is that he
rebele
but he
he's a
kind of
he's a
an angel
of a
light and
he's
can't
be destroyed
because
God
not he
is
hecic
and not
can
destroyer
because
would accept a confusion,
an equivocation,
and no there's
all. It's all part
of the plan.
So,
in essence,
is the same.
Even in different
exceptions,
for example,
in the
people Arab,
they use the jeans,
in the
people of the
Jewish,
it's a
book and
other creencers,
and also
have their
exorcism,
much more
sophisticated.
So,
they require
various people,
are very
large,
and very impactant.
That tremendous.
What tremendous.
That tremendous.
I think,
more
a little
we'll have
another
conversation
in turn to
these
things that
are
so far
that's
that's
I'm
have
happened
something
in the
community.
There's
this
year and
me
had to
know
that
no
there
no,
no,
no,
there
information
on respect
of
what
in
these
cases
and it
where
they're
in situations
to
start
to
places
much
more
more
more
and it would
that this
last case
of the
I'm going to
have to
have been
something.
I've got
a conversation
with an exorcist
and he'll
send a
mother Luson
and the
father Luson
he wrote
a book
that's
called the
very
interesting
in the
there's
there's
a question
for many
people
people
say
well
why the
position
occur in
a person
in a person
in
an person
and the
after the
after the
he has
learned
the long
of the
many
years
and the
exorcist,
he
was a
he said
he said
there's
three situations
that the
person
innocent
will be
a victim
of a
position.
No,
will be
not
their actions
and
what he
has
done.
Some
situations
in
that
that's
that
can
occur
and this
is one
of the
cases
in
what
that
is a
young
was
a
victim
of
that
a
family
to
give
to
a
spirit
as
many
many
said,
the
It was during many years
the exorcist
of the Vatican.
He was
a person
that was under
the ensignance
of the
Padre Candiddo
Amantini
and he
formed tremendously
as one of
the great exorcists.
It has to
be much with
his personality,
has to
have much
with his
character,
has to
have much
with the
character.
And there
are cases
of him
that are
very
very
very
very
because
they
say
they're
they
have done
they're
many
curiousos.
This is one of those cases, is the case of a young that,
that since his tierna infancy,
was done those brothers of his abuela,
the custoders of his abuela,
with the child,
and just when this child was going to do
his first communion,
he has a necessity of great
to get to the churches,
and in the churches,
he's the sient to be acogied,
he feels that in the place correct.
And then,
then he begins to be a person
that wants to have much activity.
is Monagillo
is a
into some
group, is a
person
a person
and of
a person
a
manifestations raras.
He's
a
feel in
moments that
there's levitation
that's
desprended
to get to
the
place,
he's
having moments
of ecstasy
and has
seen a
light of
the day and
he'll
visit in
some
moment
Jesus,
and he
visit in
some
moment the
Virgin
Maria.
And he
he starts
situations
with
those
in his
environment
not
he can
do
do
much.
And
not
know
how
lead
with
that
but then
there
He starts to
call the attention
of the
people to
his
around.
When he
has been
the person
people of
people of
a person's
in a
little bit of
until he
occurred
something that
that's
that's
they present
the
attention directly
the
dioces
to the
he pertenecy
to the
and is that
the
quadros that
he had
in his
house
in the
images
religious
commencing
to
start
so
then
those
noticeros,
commenced
to put him
to put up
this
child.
Yeah,
it's not
the chico
rarito
that says
that has
there's
a little
and they're
going to
do you,
and they're
doing a
little the
church that
there's
there's
not that they're
not that
not are
not going to
but there
there's
many many
that they're
a cause
miscarousousa,
so it's
they're
they're doing
to make
a lot of
the
attention.
But
lamentablement
not they're
more
see this
this chico
is that this
chico is in
a busk
of people
that they
can
orientate a
little
in this
situation
to talk to
a pseudo
charismatic
a type
that said
he said
he was
he was
he was
so he
is a
kind of
his
orientations
commences
he
he has
he be other type
as
and it's
strange how
they manifest
these two
people who
once that
That necessity that in
some moment
had to be
to get a
a lot of
180 degrees,
and he's
he's not
about the
and all of the
questions that he
had to have
a connection
by the
sacraments of the
confesion
of the Eucharistia,
now his
carocese
the other
the other
and then the
world to be a
that nobody
more be,
more than he,
and he
and he's
a bit of
he's
misdhist
this
is aude
charismatic,
and he
romp in
relation,
and then
he gets to
the father
of this
child,
this chico,
that's
going to
all around
the other
those
chasas
light,
the statues,
the statues
are in
repent,
has been
there have been
people,
there's
there's a
house,
and when
this
child,
the doors
are the
hearse, resquebrahan, and the
Father of Amor
is that for the signos,
and by the
churches of the
church, that most
probably not is
being a little
little bit of
a monoeiaca
that he wants,
that wants to
have that
kind of a
sense and confunding
to the person.
So,
is that is
a simple, the
Padre Amor
says, and
it has said
many times
at the
long of
his scriptures,
that he
no had
any power
special.
He,
the difference
of his
master of
the
to be to be a person
had a
position or no.
He said
to me,
while not
having any
kind of
kind of
to be in a
kind of
to be in
the only thing is
was to doxorcism
one after
other.
And in
many occasions
when I
was going to
be able to
make sure
and I
said that
was going
to be
exorcism
even when
no
there was
no different
of a
manifestation
and then
there were
in the
manifestations
then this
this
this chico
when he
did
an
exorcism
simple
and in
the
moment
in
the
the exorcism
simple
was notory
the invasion
that he
had since
much time
started voices
to start
to get
many voices
and said
the chico
us pertainse
because
he's
he's
not you
not you
don't
you're
to get
so
so it
is that
he's
he entered in
a
rest
repuente
he
he's
he's
he's
totally
incontrolable
we
we'll,
the exorcism,
it's a
calm,
he said,
he said,
and he would
do not be a
question,
and I'm doing
this,
it's not very
very similar
in the case,
that we've
made that she
had made a
fact, the
things rapidly
per day,
and the
manchachio
and the
mannestation.
The father
coincide
that's
getting a
session with
various
exorcists,
to the
which is
that's
he's
that's trying
this chico
and he's
like a case in time and
life real
and then
they're going to
do the exorcisms
and then
in every exorcism
to show
manifestations
different.
And this is
very interesting
because a
sometimes the
people
want to
get along
the things
from our
understanding
and the
demons
it seems
that's
not a
material.
The
manifestations is
just a
type of
communication
but
not
are
anclas
to only
a sort of
a
type of
a
so the
manchatches with these manifestations of
the postas that resquebrajans,
the levitations,
the sangrado of these figures,
not was the only,
a part of there,
commenced to have
a knowledge of cult.
Saben what these
people have,
they've been
in their knowledge,
into their own of
their life,
but he never
had never had
been to contact
with any of
them.
Then he's
to recital the
but of
a way in
that you're
transiversating
the things,
and it
that they
they're
that they
they're
in other
occasion that
in other
exorcism,
the
man starts
a lot of
a lot of
language that
never had
heard of
and he's
talking about perfect
a German, perfecto
languages,
including
those correct
because he
knows that
they don't
understand what
they're saying
and they
get to
and they're
to get to
the language
that he's
saying that
when they
came out
the seminar
of exorcism
and they
had
six exorcism
with the
young,
the
young had
had
has improved much and
into the conversations
with this entity
with this demonio
that maybe
was one or various
it was
he revealed that
he had initiated
the position
since he was
because her
his abel
and she knew
in the occultism
and she
he gave to
these entities
for obtain
something to
get a
change that
was very
very
that has
that has
totally
certainly
when you
read the
the
works of the
exorcists
and
all the
investigation
theological
and
there
two great rubros of
motives for the possession,
the internes and the externs.
The internes are
from the attitude recalcitrant
in the peccado, the
pactos, the invocations
and, for
the support, the
acceptation property
of the pacto or
of the possession,
that would be the
most delicate that
accept to one
the same. And then
the externs.
The externs are,
for example, in the
case that I was
Basilio 1, that is for a
grace divina. So, the
Judeo, that he needed a little
to get to the emperor. Boom,
there's affected to the
but was a mandatto divino. The
cur of Ars, the people, to begues
to get them, even with the table of the
camera, was a mandate
divine to demonstrate the
power of the faith. And
those are for grace.
But also there are for
a chisor, for maldition, or
consagration, that are
gravisimos, that is the
case that you
you have you just
you have
been a lot of
that's something
very,
very difficult
to get it.
I'm not
that's
that you
have been able to
get a lot
that's he
did make exorcism
very prolongados
no,
no,
not it was
a first
that was
all we're
all we're
all we're
like we're
that's
we're just
we're using
no, no
it's actually.
And there
I'm
another case.
You're
also to
talk to
Richard
Gallagher.
Richard Galah
is the
psychiatrist
of the
exorcists in the
United
is the
man to
they're saying
we're going
we're going
we're going
and well
well then
there's a
to char
a evaluation
and all of
there's a
example
that exemplific
much of what
we've
talked about
this night
is the
case of
Catherine
and
all
it's
when a
a
sacerdote
a
friend
he's
he's
he's
he's
he's
to be a
a person
to be
a person
in a
a man of a casa
that's a
a house
in a zone
in a zone
in a center
of the
town,
the casita
has a
house,
has a
many
his wife
a little
a
bird, a
gardencito
the day
that gets
Gallagher
the
house
wwele
a
stofado
and a
tart
to
a tart
of an
stout
a tart of manzana
doradita,
rickisima
and the
first is we
a person
posseida
because here
it's
a woman
a man of
a man of
a man
and she
effectively
had cooked
she had
cooked
a woman
menudita
the
and they're
more
grandicitts
and they
were
the
husband
was
there
and
the
and the
father
he
said
he
well
you
think
you
think
you
know
and
they're
and
they're
to
and
that
that
she
go to
a
run
and
he
do
and
he
does
know
that
he
The mariddo says that
from the night
earlier
has put a
mal.
They're not
not said
the day.
Not so
they're saying
to the
woman.
Because in
when she
was never
with this
attitude, but
she
had it's
before.
Obviously,
yeah,
he was
and he
got and
he's a curruca
for there.
The father
Jacks
solia always
to make
a misa.
In that
time,
it still
was a
time still
was a
place and
he had a
a misa
in the
house
to prepare
the
place and not
they'd
a woman to
the
church,
because
no there was
the privacy
sufficient.
In the
church of
the community
there was
the chorus,
the
the cateism,
the
the misis
and the
miso-
and so it.
And so it
did it
in the
house.
The marid
the
windows,
put in a
first with the
misa.
Terminada
the
misa,
then I'm
another
of the
parrocos
that
the
locality that
was the
recorciism.
And yeah,
then
they sat down a woman in a sillioncito
and after
they were all.
There was a
infirmary never.
The infirmara
came up with the
cur and he was
just to be checking
signos vitales
because in occasions
the rituals
can get to
be so violent
that the person
that person
The conjura is to the precarative is to
PEDY PEDORN
Therein, there
Arribus, pedir the
and to call to the presence
divina.
So, to be there.
Los Angeles,
who are, that
are there.
And then the
conjure,
that is order
to do you
don't they
don't
ask, no
they're
not they
don't they
questions
curiousas.
So,
he's
order and it
order.
Part of the
ritual,
the only
that is
to ask
the
Antigo precepto that the first exorcism where Christ
He asks what is your name? One of the bases is
is to know the name and it's something very important because
a part of there, yeah, it's a order to that Presence special
and the problem is that a
There's 20, 30, more. And,
and I can't take one for one of those presences and
then, then, then, and then,
this is a time of conjure and oration of precative.
So, no is something very spectacular.
until that staya the bomb.
Because that
little woman,
when he's the
father,
with the orations
deprecativa,
well,
is sat sat down,
as dormiladita,
as a-tontadita
when they're
when they're
the conjures.
Then,
so,
that that's
a creature
to get to
a rigid,
and thence
to make a
force,
detrase of
she,
there's,
the marid,
three,
four types
that they're
sitting
sitting,
because it
in a pair
of a
after someone's had
put to the front and with the
legion, he was up and went to.
A woman, a bigita, a man of 110 kilos
he was to go to-go, but it's a
move and then the rubees and the
changes of the rostro, of attitude,
and then many things.
All the time anterior is in calm.
No, it's a lot. But, de-pronto,
stagia the bomb. And every
that's the conjure, and this woman responds,
"'I'm my mother. She is my
"'She is my woman, that's horrible
"'that's a voice horrible, that no
"'correspondent to this woman,'
respond, she is my
woman.
She's my
She's a
I'm accepted.
Because she
me accepted.
Because she
and it's
and it's
to get to put
rarro and
the prongosia
that is something
very common.
But resulta
that in this
group of
people,
I mean
people were
English,
people
were English,
people
people who
were
Latin
perfectly.
And for
a sombrot
of all of
all.
When
he does
when they're
saying
what they
because
all they
are different
languages,
he starts
in
a language
Asiatic, that
none of them
know, and the
Rostro,
it's
a little
a rostro
of the
appearance
asiatic,
and that you
put in the
very, very
rarro,
until the
point in the
woman
is that the
woman seems to
have to be
over the
exorcism,
the woman
can't be
a commode,
he makes,
they're
they're in
the tons
vitales,
and so
me due
a tontodona
and all,
and they
serve a
tarta
to all
and they
have
to
Because, well,
is the
woman, and in
that moment
was good,
how to fend her.
And she had
to eat when
in reality
what I'm
Gallagher was
yeah,
that's all
the time,
although there
was those
manifestations
important,
as in the
case of Clarah
Germana or
many others,
if it
was not
were allos,
that there
were various
presences and
that they
were not
there.
Galager
was,
not more
not more,
the fact,
were one
or 12
he was a
he was going to
he was
he wastes
he was
he was
a question
and he was
a characteristic
that he
wasombrough
the
woman
not could
read
or
or hear
or
words
religious
when he
he said
how
if you
he said
if you
he's
in God
he was
he was
he was
he
he was
he
he was
he
he was
he
he was
so he
sent to
with her
and he did the exercise of
to ask you to ask you
have children?
Yes,
yes, I'm
to cook you.
What you're doing?
A stofaid and a
tarts, no-s-court,
oh, how many,
how many years has
that you've been here?
No, I know what?
And I'm saying
God, I think
in what?
He's not
braeming.
And then
he continued
this type of
questions
until that
she gave
that this
woman selectively
was sorda
and it
was sorted.
And it was
when they
confessed
that one of
the problems
that had
have been led to that
to initiate all
this,
was an
intense
a lot in
the o'clock,
a thing
horrible,
every time
that I'm
that they
had you
saw you,
there was
when they
did it
when they
did it
was to get
to get a
little
to get a
little
and then
he was
getting
the ability
to
recognize
the
words,
God,
English,
Jesus,
Jesus,
the
whatever
that had
to be
to be
to be
to hear
it.
Wow.
So,
was getting isolated. And that was the most
grave of this case, of this exorcism. How you
comforts? How could hear? How could assist to
the church? No, it was.
He was a condone to this. It was a
position destructive in extreme that he
impeded all. Well, Gallagher
got to write, and to make
small proofs. I'd write a
a question in a paper and she
responded. And in one of
those, he did a problem
very macabre, in the
which he put the paper, and he
asked me, he said, here's the paper,
contest me the question. And she
responded, Doctor, is it in black.
And the paper
had a question religious. No, it was
talking about. Pocopo, this
type of proofs were repitient, in the
numerous occasions that was, and
she was doing account of that,
that despite of the
efforts and of all,
every
every
was recullying
and it
was going
and it was
consuming
it was
a thing
horrible
there was
another
incident
that he
he was
that during
one of
the exorcism
that
he
presentio
this
this woman
intended
mordered
but
not put
the
the box
kept
a
two
a
little
he
was
a
past
that the
back
was
he was
he
he was
he
and when
asked
that with the
minister, well,
with the
father
Jacks and
all of
he said,
he said,
he's,
he's not
he's
under
control.
But,
well,
following
with the
thing,
this
woman
was the
origin of
the problem.
Not
a casual
not a
casuality.
And it
was a
possession
motivated
for a
time
in the
youth
she had
been
part
of a
alh
a
couple.
And so
they had
formed
a
car
because
they were
that
was
sensational
in
the
years 60s and the
rebelia and that you and that you
and they started to reunice in a
clear of the bush. Some of them
was found out of some conjure that
a lot of it, but the fact is what
that you say, but the fact is no
more power for the intention than for what they say.
The fact is that they were reunying
and they started to convocar and
invocar. And in some moment
that's functioned. And not
not only that, but to according to the
own own
the
own words of Catherine,
the
which was
something
was a
very grave,
have been
had given
fetus.
Is
that some
of the
chicas
had
had been
in
a
abortion,
and they
had
been
an
end
that
the
dark
of the
dark
obviously.
It was
numerous
occasions
and no
mehore
well,
there
had
been
little
there
had
had been
a
church,
without
enter.
I could
talk with
the
people,
but not
could still
enter to
a church,
no
could confess
and he
could be
not
hear about
the word
divina.
So,
the
grave
was the
case.
In the
last
the
other
that the
time,
he
had four
years
with
that
and it
was
under
the
influc
of
those
demon
so
so
so
a ton of
things
very
interesting.
It's
so impressive.
Richard
Gallagher,
from the
time I've
done, I
have talked to
hear this
relato,
it's an
impactant.
For you,
maestro,
my
thank you,
I'm with
the skin
chinita,
and in
more of an
occasion,
me
submerged
absolutely
in what
I'm
talking about
in what
I'm
doing to
investigate
more of
these
cases,
so much
thanks
for
having
participated
in this
dweil.
Sir,
very good
good
after all.
Thanks for
the invitation
and that
the help
the altisim.
Thank you.
Family
Nocturna,
community
of relato
darkos
of the
darko.
I want
an
and I
want a
and bensions.
After this,