HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Jugamos a la Ouija y contactamos un Demonio HISTORIA REAL | FT. ROXX HERRERA | EP 122

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

Éstas son las prohibiciones al usar mi don Prepárate para un episodio escalofriante en @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE con nuestra super invitada @roxxherrera . La buena Roxx empezó el episodio diciendo que sus historias no eran aterradoras, pero quiero que escuches el nivel de Escalofriante de sus historias, éste es el primer episodio en el que tuvieron que pausar el proceso de edición por el terror que le causó a nuestra querida editora; historias de ouija , panteones, espíritus, flachazos de luz y entes oscuros. Roxx nos comparte cuales son sus prohibiciones al usar su don y nos cuenta relatos donde a veces los muertos creen que siguen vivos.

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hands and me let's get it and I saw, I've been some newas or garras.

I've this don. I've always had seen seen, entes, phantasmas

mortas as you want to want in this forum have passed things.

Has seen something? If I came and I sent me something

Denso. Welcome to Famine Nocturna to this new episode to let us the new episode

to talk about the day of one of the episodes more of the specials that we have to

have been in this channel. Front to me the day of day of today is Rocks.

A person that has 22 years I know in a first in a birthday in a

birthday in a year and that I toped that this person had a story's

that were good for this channel and I'm okay, the world is a little

and how much a world so I'm very much thanks thank you very much I'm excited

and I'm excited but so that so co that we know we we're

we're in a moment of our lives and of the universe conspired

for that we we'll find in different circumstances that

nothing to because it was my 15 years apart when

when you Yeah. And apart, in that time, the environment also, in this time, the environment, too, a lot more a lot more relaxed, a, a bit more relaxed, a lot more profound and, maybe aterrador.

Not so, but... Sobernatural? Sobernatural. You have to say the question that I do to all the people that come to first time to the podcast. To do you, do you

are you in the supernatural? Yes. Yes. Yes. In a manner direct or you'd get to a No, no doubt or is like me No, I don't know.

No, I've experimented in the real. In real. Okay. And, me said

for there, that you know, that's the story, is the true, Robs? It's true. So, so I think

it's the moment that you and you let me, let me let me for favor, for what

was more your first encounter with these questions over-naturedals? Well, this,

I'm going to go to my years of infant because I think that I've got used of reason, and I think that I've got this don,

let's let's know it, sixth sense or developed. So, I from a little always had seen,

but entes, phantasmas mortals, like what you want to you want to and so me presentable, no, in

different occasions. In the record, in my house, I have a little bit of that I knew that's

a little this, because they're not you're going to put the names like to one person that was

a other, because repites like this karma and I know so so this this tia

fallece before that I know last to two years before, she was

Adriana and my mama and my or Janie. So when when she got my

mom that's embarrassed of a new a new to be Roxana

for my mom Janin for my name to my my my

then so in my house I remember we on the

photos you know the photo family the photo of

Roxana of my little and a photo in another

more of abelos, any tio, nobody. Only that that's that's a

and I remember that I'm a little bit of my my mother, favorite,

and my best, my best, and this, the other so I so I so I

was, I'm like, like, like, and it was a time,

that she, a past of that I know she, a past of that I

didn't two years after that she had being I'm

in my cell I put music and I know I'm

playing and I'm playing and I'm so I remember that we're we're

a stereo of these that have like the music and some

and some bono and I'm and I remember that for the

cassette so they had got two two buttons

so they're of those buttons that you to

back to the button for the play, the stop, or something.

But as they were to get the button, you need to get the door to pression. So,

something, something was ator-in- one of my cassettes that was playing

and was and it was trav-the-mus and then so I'm trying to picker

and picker to get the play and pass-and- and you see that before the

thing or all-a- and no, it was never to get the cassette, I'd

want to And I think, rare, and in that I'm going to picker and I'm a a flashase a rarer,

and of I'm a my Tia Jana, sentada in my cell. So, as it was

someone for me, I was who was who was the photo that I didn't,

no, no, I don't, I'm and I remember perfectly that me he said,

how you how are, how is your mom, how is your family, he,

I said they were well in that moment my papas not were in the house but if I'm my brother

my brother is four years major than my brother my brother so I know that I remember I'm

that I'm those stories of when when they were on a carmionette and I and I

remember that I'm I'm sure that I'm gonna angel angel come come

come and he he's in the part of the house and he

we've we've and then we're and then and then then then and

there It's good, and so he went. So he thought that I was playing to that game of, Ben, gorele, for favor. You have to do this, no-se-ke. And, meanwhile-tenth-tant, my Tia was, calmate, no-past-n-n-n-a-n-n-past-n-n-n-law. I mean, just,

I mean, say, your papa, and things, I asked, like, I'm, this. He said, like, very basic of all, all, all, but you, how are you? I was, no? I was, I was, like, I was excited that that was there, but at a

way, a bit of a bit a bit, I know, it was a very

very rare. And in that I'm I'm in the cell, and I'm again, I'm in

my time. And I'm, and I'm, and then it and then I say, what, he, he,

he, he goes, and it's not you're not, you're not, you're not, you're going,

you're going, you're going with your eyes, or you're doing in your

no, no, with my eyes, with your and it's like a person normal,

transparent, no, like a person normal, no, I remember these transparencies.

With the past of the time, I think, this Don, has been, this, no,

I've been going, or has been evolutioning or the other, but I

have seen different forms of people that get to give me

to give me, a me, give me a message. In that

moment, my Tia see, I was like a person normal. Normal.

The was even in my cell. You know, you think,

you think, like a phantasm, well, you know, so, you know, I'm

a lot of a see the thing, I think, I think, perfectly his

role, as the photo. I'm also also the sub-consient me

did see or identify like, but yeah, I

I saw a person normal. And you and you're and you're doing the voice and you're talking?

Yes, okay, and the sound comes to your ear? Entra for your ears

perfectly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the voice was a voice really, a voice

really, it's a voice, and I know, this of the karma, of that you know, you know,

that's very similar or is, it was, it was, it was, it was, obviously

I'm, I'm, seven years, and, a voice but a voice was a

very similar to my right. Never you've got in the time of your childhoods,

a person that that's the voice of my Tia Yanna? No. Until that you've until you

adulta? Uh-huh. What that's a that's very, very new. Now, your Tia

Yanna is like to be physically to you or not I'm more

more more I'm my mom is a hermana of my mom. So I think

there's a similar. Surely if I'm going to a photo, you're going to say, you know,

the parentesco. Yeah. I can't say that we'll say that we're the little kind of

sponjado without form. No, I know, but if there's a parentesco if you

see, so you're some family. Oh yeah and me you say that the long of

the time, has seen of form distinct, not just not more

like, so materialized or so, what others have seen? Well, basically is

that's this, I mean, this don, I know, because before I said, because I

said, I said, that was a don't, but, no, I was, it was a

prepa, and I was going to crossable, I was, I was, you know, you're

there in Gonzalitos, or, well, at the Gonzalez and I I lived in

Residence Lincoln so I was going to go to a park and I'm going to

so I'm going to when I'm going to sometimes for different quadras like to

not aburried me of the same and etc. So one once I remember to have

out of and met me for cases or because I know that I'm

never I'm going to be a ender to be to be what we see what

we're doing. Sure, sure, and so I see a woman very very bigita,

very and a she could say I was that I saw that was a like gray,

you know, you know, these tones sepia but like if were in black and

black and black and no, I was so, I was, I I'm

I'm I'm I'm the the Cey Tonala and I

oh, oh, oh, is this this. And me said the number

and I have been all the life living there. So, I'm very well

the and I'm like this is this this, it's this, it's this, it's a

house that no had a number and that was like very abandoned

and but if there cars so if there someone there was like

like so I said, much gracious, my hita, much thanks. No,

you know, the help the help you know, I'm doing but I'm doing it's while she

was going while she and then I'm like, come to, like this fear that you do you know,

of what you say, no, it's not to be that my people, that my

people, because you're in a carionette and I don't know, so, I'm a respect or that line,

that no, no, I didn't And, this, and me he said, much thanks, much, much gracious, and, and I did two

passes and I was there. Yeah, not was there. And no there was a way to enter to the house,

so, so, so, I would have seen that the reja, or they're doing the or, you know,

because, there was a cellular of, oh, I'm here out of this woman, obviously,

not going to try to a cellular. So, it was like, I said, I said, I mean,

I'm sorry, I'm two passes, and I'm sorry, two passes I'll, like, to see the

that's going to be to be in and I'm going to do. And I'm I'm doing. Yeah.

The I know, I know, and I never went to that house too, oh,

I mean, a little little a girl, I, know, a man, a black and a black and

a so, so, and then I, you're, you're you're, you're

like, like if you had been cuted color to the skin, like if

it's very palida, but a about, so I'm yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm, I'm just, I'm what, what's what's

what's what's what's what's not, so that's obviously the glubes

that's the samegionion are the , when you're you know, when you know,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm put to think in all things when

when I And I mean, well, it's a little bit, um, fallyceded or, no see, and no I've been found this house. Really, never me pung to figure out more there. Only those are the interactions. So, those are those are, like, certain interactions.

And, at the long of my life, has been so, I mean, I've toped people in the callie, this, of, this, of, this, of, in a local that had my papa, of renta was a restaurant and it they were

a lot of every that's it was a car a restaurant of mariscus was a

restaurant of a restaurant and never never never never

never never I was I only I I took

for my and I and in a first I

remember I see a a new I a

super little little little little little two chongitos, but me

did a favor, that was a for a pavor. She was a way, he was to

know that was a little, a rectangle, has to and in the front,

in a corner, she was she was she was she was and I remember perfect

of the flequito and I don't I think because I think I'm

in the I was in the first, imagine all all all Tell me that you see, no, or

I mean, I'm going to, I'm sure, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, you're going to be a man, you know, I'm going to say,

I mean, and I'm not to see the need, and I'm really a lot because I'm like like a little,

nothing, nothing, penetrante, without, without the end, without, so,

so, without, so, I'm, I mean, I, I mean, I, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm, all, of my

carnazada, literally, I'm to do with and in that's the the pair of

that I was going to do not, we're going, and I'm with the little, I'm,

I'm, the car of the guy, like, a close-up, not, not,

not, up to me, but as were a close-up of someone, the face,

the face, the front, only the car, like, and of and the

so it so so, so very, very drastic and then

I'm so I said, I'm a little a little was a

was a indice and the person I said, I said, I'm

with the I was I'm that I did that so I used those sounds

and those gestures dormita. So I started like, like

like like like so I said. Uh-huh. And he said, he was up,

and he was to do you, I don't I'm so, obviously. But, I'm so I'm

perfectly of that that's that's so I'm that's a easy, it's a

so, like in the 2000, no more, 2010, I mean, I've been, I've been I've been

I'm sure perfect. How, well, you know, well, you know, well,

you're a little a, this, um, flequito to like

it's like the eyes eyes, eyes coffes obscured but

no had a a little a little a kind of

a little yeah like the woman that's someone

disfras that's someone disfrasated something so so I know

so I was that I was a good point of observation

fift that in the And in the stories that have told there are some of

some of them there are stories about certain entities for putting them a name a name

generical that what they are they're doing is disfrasar as someone you know you've

going to tell this story and now you're going to tell the story there was

a story that I said a woman in the she said a child that she is

very accustomed that has I think her, I think his, I think his husband

at the time of the house. So, she is much of patrons and learn the patrons

of the person and he had super-obico the reja, he was to start the

reja and it starts the thing to get to the car. Here is the door,

here the door, here is the door, here inta the thing, but it was,

the pattern was a open door, start door a carmine

with a comminadit a little specific. Uh, very specific but she said,

she was she said, she was the balladito to up to get a because

he said, he's so they are your keys. So, so it is the

and it is with a rhythmit that normally no can't be a door

and if me be a door, he gets the he put a the

pyame or with the he he's a day so that

all this all, all, the I'm going in the recamara, I'm

I'm going to get to the back, I'm I'm going to listen to the and where it doesn't

a plan to the where he's he's he's he's he's got he's

he's he's he's and he I'm and I'm I'm I'm

I'm no there car so he's he car that's a car, that's

nobue or the husband went to be the husband, he goes, two hours after. A chaba, when I

hear this story, says that's he did a infarto. I've lived that's three times.

The difference is that I have seen. So, so, it's got, when he gets,

et cetera, et cetera, and the times that I have seen, I've seen, I'm, he,

he's, he's, he's, he's gotcha to get to the lap, I'm,

I'm at certain altitude of the camera that the camera that's

so it's so he never and it when I don't there I'm sorry

yeah she when I think I'm I'm I think that I

think it was the one that I did you do you not no

I'm not you know you know that you know that's like that

so so so I have got they they get

and they get in the same they I'm or,

I was that I Kna a prepa and for a problem and I felt a

and I'm there's a point in my room, and I thought that was my mom

and I'm made you know, you know, you know, you know, like, and all, and all,

and all, all the back, like, like, consoling me or like saying,

oh, yeah, that's I'm, my hita, I'm, I'm, my hita,

I'm, I'm sure, it's, it's, that, of, the, the

better at a and I'm like, I'm going to to say, oh, yeah,

I'm going to be a something that was a super chippil and no there. So,

those, those things are very very very, but about of disfaces

or of entes that's disfrasan, this is the history good. Ah,

yeah? Also, a very. Also, also, I think in the prepa

has been my at my apativity paranormal this, no see if I'm

more or he's more developed or he had more about, or one of adult,

then you know, one of they're more they're not they don't, they're not the

third eye. Like, you're just that's much that's not, so.

So, in the prepa, but I'm with my papas, no past, and one these

Fetches, more or less, I was going to be a Halloween.

And my am I'm going to get to the house. They're to go to

get to not, we're not, we we're to get to the panty

to to get to be to be to and two no, no,

I'm not going to get to a pantyon. We're in the park

that's to be a two to the house of so. So,

we've there was the ball there was that I said, you know,

like, all this that you say, that's, you know, not you know, not you're

not at chavo, well, no, no, no, see the consequences, and no,

and you know, with what you're doing, no, what portal you're doing? Obviously, so I'm

to know, to the mala, and, this, and, well, we know, I was that,

I'm really is that was that was a of a skeptic, that a tabla random, you know, I thought,

I think it had to be a wija of a exorcised, I know, I mean, I imagined,

like, I had to have a ritual for that could be to be able and you know,

right, you know, you can't be able portals of many ways, and not necessarily

with a table, with letters. But in that then then I said, this table is of my

a legia, no? I mean, you went to get a Julio, I went to get to get a manches, so, no

to work. So, my people are to get to ask, and to get someone here, um,

and they'd and they'd and they'd and they'd and then they'd to start all those

that we were to see, I'd, until that me said I'm saying rog's,

yeah. So, you know, and I'm want to play, I'm not sure.

No, man, no, no, no, so, there's a move. There's a lot. See? I mean, I mean, I don't see. I'm going to be over, or so, with the man uproval, I mean, I think, so, of the pluma or this

lente that, that that's, yeah, that's the wichie. See. And all, no, man, you know, I don't see what, I know, what, what's going to? No, well, it's so, like,

like, that, that, there, there's, there is a person here, I'm, I'm,

how you call? Well, you know you're a man, ask him, what's

who's, and how he's, and how he's, so, so, for not

to make, the we're doing questions and the way, result, that was,

that was a he was he was he had been a Tifoidea

and that was was just because extranava his papas. So,

he wanted to be a person very maternal. And, since I've never had

this instinct maternal very evolutioned, very, this, how's it is,

then the chip dea, I, I'm doing to the kids, uh, yeah, I,

I'm, I'm, I'm a little my of the new little little,

you know, so, so, I always I've been pretty much maternal, so super-loco that me

would get a little to a little, and that was he had died, and that's that I'm

that's what, blah, blah, no? My mom was very strict in my house, is a

master, so in my house, there's there's a seven, and if no,

you're going to be to be, I'm I'm the and I go, and I go,

I'm going, I'm to go. me, they're saying, is that you can't go to

do the permission. And I don't manches, how? No, I know that's

it's you know you're you're not you're if you're on the session

for complete if not they're they're they're so, so I'm I'm going to

go, I'm going, I'm going, no. For favor, is that me

will be my my mom, no. You know, I'm I'm going to go

to do I'm putting so, and I'm so I mean, I was, I was, I was, I was about, like, a hour or more, there's, like, asking questions and what other.

And, of course, I said, you know, I'm, you know, I'm more scared to my mom? And that's, that I'm going to, that's reagania. And me went. And me, I went, it was inconcluso, and it was open. And then, I go to my house, So, it's the

game, we go, I'm not see who I'm at the final. I go to

my house, I'm always I'm going to the cell, I'm

so I'm very musical too, I'm I'm music, or I

put a TV or I put a video and I go and I

sit to the cell and the cell and the room. So,

when someone was with the light was reflectable in the

video. And I remember that happened to someone and I I'm

again again, I'm sorry again, my brother, no, there's

nobody in the house, no, not, no, I'm there was

and my mom, was in the room, you, no, so, nobody.

Yeah, I'm, very chingona, I, you, Octavio is you, no,

no, no, no, I said, well, I'm going to to sleep that day.

And in trance, in trance, it's called when you're in dormido and when you're at a point of you

get to be you're doing, but you have a little of sensibility, you know, to be

going to get to talk to Octavia. I'm to hear the voice of a little

I'm a costada dormida, ohla, I'm okay, I'm me,

I'd be your friend and I'm sure that's a sure that I'm going to I'm saying

I'm saying I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to but I'm a voice-a a voice-a

of a little baby so very very nice a man

agudo you know interneced internec exactly and I sure I'm going to

look to to be to care this my but well and so I'm going to

I'm going to to be a and I'm going to be to be to be here you're going to you know if you're

sure that I'm I'm I'm putting chinita to agree I'm sure I'm

yeah, it's interesting that story so you then so so it so the transcurso of

my days with Octavia. You know that I was cruising the park at the 7 of the morning that I was

to go to the prepa and then was it was too I'd talk about topar me with some another albañil and you know

the sabroceartes chiquita and I see and I'm so I'm a prepa so I'm always going to

very rapid it was on the there was on the in the park in the

park of the the and I remember that I was coming very and I

heard passos after me then I go, I'll go, like, oh,

I'm going to like, I'm going to see a , I'm sure that I'm going to be and there

no, and I'm going to do and I'm doing the shush, ch, ch, ch, ch, ch, I'm,

I'm, and I'm no, no, and do I chingona, another again,

Octavio, are you, if you're you, vent, to be at me, because I'm

I'm that they're that they're behind to me. See, the the

of the feet. They were and he's a way to my side.

I'm I'm cross the park and I'm well, I'm going to talk about

I'm going to talk about I'm going to the prepa and no see what and I blah blah

and I'm talking to my time to me, so that they were to go to they were

at the long and they were on the car and I oh oh my

mad I mean, I was I was always of the life. You're sure I'm sure. Aha.

So, go and I go to the prepa all, I'm I'm going to my am I'm

know, I'm know, what, what's what happened? And the morra that was

had had given the whiff and there, and there were that's

there's there's like, and like every kind of every did a

thing, he had got to the entity to the person. And apart I think

nobody he said, So, yeah, of you, like your servitor here present.

And then then they're and then I'm just and then I'm I'm sorry had been perfect.

All the nights and I'm saying, oh, today you see you very

beautiful, oh, things so so and I oh, oh, I,

okay, random. Platicas all the nights all the nights every I was in the darkened and despirta, I

heard a voice and I'd say, I'd like, and then the first in the day, I'm said my

mom, I'm going and I'm going to be noth, you know, manches, something,

I'm going, I'm going, I'm trying, I said, I'm, saying, that I started with

two hands, and I was I've got and I see, and I, I,

I, but in the obscurity. So, that's that's that is a

resplandes a resplandes of the reloge of a thing, or something,

he got to the hands that were on the and were those

long. And I'm that's that's the day next. My father

amanace and me, me they got with a

tube. I were I'm felt palazos and I

saw the the back the back with the

And I'm, what? What's what's going to? So, so they're to happen to see this type of

things, a my brother also, a newio in his house, I'm overcaught,

me, this, me, I felt it, me pegged, amnice with raspones, no,

so, things, very agressive to the people that was around me,

me, very very, so, so, mom, my, mom,

my mother, novio, no. And then And then my brother also is

very sensitive to these things and I'm you

you know you know you I'm a whiff no

cack me reagan so what you what you

are the that you're that you're that you

took you you you're you you can't you did

the Entrata and I know what I'm saying. And I'm talking. Yes, because he paid permission to get to. I know, well, then, well, then I'm going to tell him.

And my brother, in shock, entrenojo, me going to do, what we're going to do? I'm going to your room. And today, and the night,

you're going to say that you want to be here. And I, okay. I'm, okay. I was, I'd do with

a stereo preended. Also, So, then I'm going to doorme and entrance again Octavio and I'm

you're doing do you do you're doing to do my family no, you know,

I'm just if you're you're no, there's no, I'm saying,

it's that I you're I'm just you're you're not Octavio so no you know

you know you know you're you you can't you're you can't be

you no for favor, let me get me and I'm asking

that voice interneceder and I'm, no, you're going to go. And I

remember having been been discussing that I said many times no,

you know, you can't be here, I don't you can't be here

and I did like many repeated occasions very very very

emphatic, until that he no, for favor, he I'm a

no, for favor, no, I see what, like, a voice super,

I mean, I remember, and I get to, I'm despired, and there the light

apagated, there's the volume to all that's the stereo, and me

are the hand, as my my armano was there, I,

I'm, soeltame, soeltame, for I'm, I'm my the door,

swelts. My papas were at the door and what's what's, and I'm going to be

you're going to get you. And I'm you're going to say, and I know you know you're there's

you're saying, you're just let's, let's, I'm able to saffar, I'm, I'm, prending

the light, my brother also my brother also was trying to him to not me was getting

him. Abrimed, the door, we're I don't know what happened my papas,

what happened what, I know what, I'll tell the history acto and then a racold

in the house obviously being etchando a water and liberating us of all

and that was the last time that I took with Octavia No

never to look to not no no no much

mention to mention it that that's something that's

you've been to have you ever to be a yeah, but no it's something that I'm going to say,

I'm trying that I'm fission to get a to get that's septica and not they're going to do you know,

but if it's the first time that's this podcast and you're listening the testimony of

Rocks I'm more episodes if you're you're going to you'll have to do you

know, more than what you say? What's the what do you say? The people menoprecia

is the whiffa for the simple of the fact of the market commercial.

But the reality is that only is a way for something that the people

is what they're really. So, it's it's a lot of a

thing that with a things in the instant. Yeah, there are

different objects that you serve to open portals to

talk with any any that you want to you want to be

this this is the you can you you obviously you

do you do you think are good for the people that

the people that maybe a maybe you know can be

you know you know to protect your environment

to block that this type of I was when I did

I was in prepa I'm 16 16 years 17 zero idea of what is the life

more than that I had been that I was for something for something I've seen

me and more people in your family have been have been that have this type

of perception apart of your one? Yes. Who? Who? various tios, primos,

this, like the Herrera, we're very, very bruchitos, for so so to say to say,

this don't that I think that I'm, to be, I'm going to, I'm, I'm going to work

with him, and now I'm using meditated to help us to help us to crosser to the

people, for that not they can't like, like, as a pen,

it's so a time. So, so me this is

one of my my my wife so I'm to do you

know some some things you know well, so you know

for what you for what she for she my mom

my mom of my my best in the hospital she she she

she's I'm going to go to be a back to I've been in the morning,

in the morning. Here you get us with my brother. I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. Yeah,

I was very a little bit of my friend also, I have been a year and she and she go to her

house and say, well, well, tomorrow I'll be. And that day

fellacy. And at the day next or when I was the bellory, I'm

to the mom of my my friend and me say, Dillie to that stay a okay, that

not she feel like very, very really, tell you thank you and that's

and I'm very quiet. Where did? In my house, in your house, in your court?

In your normal. Normal. Like, like, like, I've seen. No,

no, I don't remember exactly what roba, obviously, I just I just knew

that had fallen for that then I see, what I'm, I'm going,

I'm sure you know, when you get a person, and I'm and I'm my

my tia, no, what's the that's the and so all quite, nothing more. When

you talk, is the way, or is just just not the presence and you're

not more the move the move the move the move like like

I know, I know, I don't how explain

to it. Because if, I see, I see, I see, I'm like any

other person, but I'm different. Why? Why? I'm something.

In my, in my mind me says that they are different no see.

Color, the same, the same, no, because the time,

those I'm like as in life. Dimions normal. Mm-hmm. Irriden.

Uh, Uh-huh. Maybe they radian, like, for example, this oldiegitta that was a very grisacea, there are others that I feel like

like, like, like if you were putting the lampa, if you're doing the lampa, if you, see, you know,

something, something, that's a light that's that's not a person, but it's like if they were

playing a light. Yeah. If I'm explained. Yeah. No, no,

no, no, no, no, I mean, I'd like, I'd have been

a feldied a focus, but not that my focus of my house, it's expand.

If I'm not that my focus falle, but I see, I see, I'm like if

were a light apart. Like, as they were luminicent? Uh-huh. Or if were in a

focus? Uh-huh. Okay, okay. And they they're doing, men,

Roppa, or the light those do, no, no, no, no,

no, no, in this type. Uh-huh. You have to have seen

about to be a about the and the but the but the yeah, but not the

yeah the girl is but he's but he's not, no, no, I mean, I've seen

like, because this is a ser of a person someone, someone, like a pale grisacea

something, something that something like a sombra no, never. I've seen,

but never interact with them, never interact with them. Because apart you know

what is what is what I'm also when I get a place where I think there is a type of energy, I'm going, I see the

the vibra super pesada. No, I mean, it took, for example, apart to do the

location, I go to an scouting, to a forum that's there's in the center, and they're

in a sotano. In that sotano they're doing in the work of the venue,

no, where I was going to do this event, we're to the sotano

and you as to the same like I'm like I'm here here is here is

here is the role no I said to the do you the the

and it's it's that here was a hospital and this the sotano was the

amphitheatro and I with reason what is what you see what you

see a it's a piece in the skinnita but even

the Spina dorsal, like, oh, is a... Elictica? Yeah, car. Tens. It's a...

Like, it's a... Like, when you try's a much stress. Yeah.

That's to get to to look the back, and that's and that you get the muscle

or, oh, like, so if you're that's cargand something that every

every gets more per that's that's you're to this forum?

In this forum have passed things. Has sent you something? Has said,

something? If I came And I said I'm saying I'm I said I'm sure Much

Median or Poco No I don't No I'm No I'm

No I'm No I'm No But I'm Maybe

Maybe There Maybe There Someone Someone You You

You're You No No And No And there There's

There There's There Yeah. Yeah. Ah. Ah, okay. Okay.

The people that have beened, have situated in different points of the house. Uh-huh. My credency is that they're seeing things different. Okay. Uh-huh.

You have the idea of if it's a woman, a new adult, no. No, no. After that I've seen. After that you see. But,

so, if it's se sent, pesadito. Okay. Yeah, so, uh, Anoche we grabbed and if it was it was too

weird. So, so it's not the most habitual. If it's not it's not really I'm going to

be able to the fact. That's what that's like, but I think it has occurred about 10

times, things extra- in one occasion, this mantita a second a second

said that they'd and he said, it was and he there was not here

not here we're not here we're there and then there they were

there parado vying us. In other occasion, they said, in this that was a woman,

in this that was a man, in this, a man that was in the entrance receiving them. So, so,

like, they've seen, things there. But also, but also me have said, but this is very

old, and that's, and that was the person, for the way, I got re I'm comingado

all the area of this one, before to get to the only house that has, it's the

from here there's like, so, so it's Ah, well? No, no, no. I think, no, no, no. I don't, I'm sorry.

There's a... There's a little. There's a little. Oh, yeah, Rox. A-be-du-do, you've... This is, this is... This is a,

interesting. And I... I... No, he said, no. Well, no. We'll have... No.

We'll... Mm. Duda. The... The entity that You've seen as like the is something

quite a similar to Octavio. Yes. Yes. Yes. Naturalizes similar. Yes. Because it was

disfrased. Demonio you would you? Probably. Probably. It's that I don't you

don't you can't go to generalize to the duendos not too not too. I don't know if like

a type of demonio a type of I don't know what I guess because I don't know I'm not

I'm going to know what was Octavio I said that was really not, no, I didn't

because here we did we're because there was a yeah, so, yeah,

it was was turning a a problem a problem how how do you

the question to do you try this can't how is that process for you?

It's mediating meditation, oration so a little checkate what I

say, I'm found of a market of a like a expo

that's called Vive Mandala Fest to for to do

like the car and make the and what's you

know, you you you you know you that you

all what you have to be with things of spirituality and

other. Algo they did click to me to the people of this event

that we said we want to we're the image of this event and one day

I'm making a reiki never ever had seen that's he's

nobody know of what I do what I'm what me have been

and the people of the the event never never

never I I know the say the you you see

things, right? And I, how? If you you're from a little,

you know, you're doing so you're doing, you know, and if you did it, the fear of

you know, I think, I was to make to make to make the car,

I don't remember because I had I'm I've been evolution this,

and like me have got to be accopland to that at

the at the first I know and I know, this

energy denser, I'm going going to no, no, I'm not going to

get to risk, I know what I know what I'm not the people,

I'm to do that this type of meditations for with oration to guide to the

people. I'm put for example, I with the mom of my

my my best amiga, I mean, I say this, me does the message, I'm doing

my my amy, thank you, my thank you I'm sure that I

feel like I'm so I'm so I'm so so I to meditate, literally.

This, me despeg a little, if so if you want to be

a little to, I'm to make to do to say to try to

try to to the light or the way, because when they're here,

there are many times that they're not they're that they're not they're

so, so they're so they're on-est or they're passing, me passed also with

with familyaries that had an accident, a man, a

man, and a man, and it's super tragic that accident and my

prim had, well, he was two little, he was his

wife, obviously not she wanted to go. Obviously had many

things to do. They were so little little their little

so then so he was and he and not he

and he I'm to a chorro of in the in the

street me he was he was I'm walking

and I'm all the days. To my my tios were very

Catholic and no tallyerone and then I don't see if I'm to be

something fervient you're or how prepared too to you know

to get to you know and my my prim no to me my prim

to do my prom and the way to and I'm yeah and I know

you know but, but, I don't to go. So, what I do? So,

are you, so I'm going to find that that's a time. I'm passed with

a tia also, super dearida, adorada, that also I think she was

super-lista, and with you know, you know, I mean, I'm put to meditar as,

like, to be that transcends more rapidly, I did nothing. I saw,

see a a light resplandecent segator I said no, this yeah's

this way and she never never you never you know in dreams

but when they're in dreams is because they're a permission to

or to give a message that not they they're not

in this plan so so I when it's people and when it's

people they're they're a visitate or they're for so so I'm to say

to see you when you when you do you this this or when

you're how you're you're you're not a person and it's

generalized generalized specifically with that person and you do you see

something I'm I'm I'm sure if it's a a cold,

this, you know, when, when there electricity, you know, this calorcito

that starts to get to vibrate the body, this, the, the meditations and the

orations are with that person in specific, no, no, no, me met

in, in more, this, in more problems, for so what is what,

what, do you do you do? No, I'm, know, I'm,

more , more more than that person. If I'm explain, I'm I'm sure I'm

a only with that person just because no I want to want to happen to

what I'm This person of Rakey, that I said, you've got you've gothys things, you have a don't, if me said, if the plan no, no,

you know what you're you can't, and me did the contact of some people who train an, this don,

for so to say, no, for the blocker or for the development? The development. Vida

of adult, no I've been a time of, but if would be really, the fact

to develop well, and have conscience and also know, and also know, and so

where it's very complicated then you know, that you see, you know, I'm not, no,

I'm still no, yeah, I'm going to or that little, you know, that's,

that's, that's, that's, that's, kind of, it's a feeling more vulnerable.

I, I know, but I never, I've been that I'm that, that in

some moment something something something What happened with a little? Yes. We're

going to see I'm when. When you have these experiences like in that you

do you, something, something something something there's there's more

about. I'm doing? Yes, so when I see, I mean, when I

live, for so, I'm bring some I'm, there's

there, there is a that And the aperture of this, and if not you limit, it's, there's many more things that are present in this interaction,

that can filter? Uh-huh. It's, there. Obviously, no control I, I'm, to see, me explain? Yeah.

Normally, well, it's people that I know- and that I think that I'm also, that's a blocker of, oh,le, no me,

I know to, for a lot of nobody, yeah. That, I know, uh, so,

but, but, but, For example, no me into any in pantions, no me am I getting any to play

nothing, I mean, I'm going to do you. What are you do you know to be in risk? Or your

limit me to not get me to know where I know. What I know what I know what I can know what I'm

know, no, I say, I see there are for example to use the pendul and

to talk with your superior and this lives pasted, and other I have friends very

very very very who are in this that are to do to do

them to do do you do do I don't do I'm not

I'm to use a for example because it's the

same it's no so you know the rest

the system so so so so so so

so And he started to where are the lenses of my wife that's been there's been in the house, if they're not

they're in the little bit more, and my friend that's he says awas because you know who's

because you know to find them to find them so there there for example I don't me meto in those

menesteres of if no I'm I don't let's say, I'm going to do something that is he it's

is doing. When someone when I want to when I'm

a person then just that something to do something

to say, I'm going to say, I'm to have a message

or like a person that I need to get

to get to not me not I met to

to ask me I am so what what

so you limit the message okay I I don't know.

I'm going to make make more questions, it's going more this channel. Uh-huh.

So, it's going more time that, connection with that, uh, is the

end or that's so, it's going to more time here, then I,

so I'm going to this this space between dimensions, no see

how explain to it, but I'm limit to , you you,

you're you know, I'll pass with a that's super interesting super interesting.

Okay, no you do you know, you know, that has to be with some

kind of contact with some kind of entity, because you know, because you know,

they're things that's very misdragal as like things very

venerable. Notas, question, you think, you think, these, phantas, spirits

of people of the families of that are like dambuland. You think that they're in form

conscientious, consient in the committance, but I think that I'll do that

they'll be their form physical or that has to be more with you or is simply

occur in a form spontaneous. The really, no I'm

an explanation for that I'm I'm that has to more

more or for how those I'm a little I'm in a little

with my and that's I'm in I'm think I'm think that that they're that's a

kind of the sort of the how you see in reality or not

so at the movie of the movie of that's that I see

I was I'm I'm madrada to the head to a

or more, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, they're not

in a way, or they're in that you those are in your way, that you're to be in

general, yeah, yeah, that's, uh, I, to do you do you

know, yeah, and when it was in various occasions, always was always was used

always was the same person, I'm not I'm I don't I'm a is that no, because

it was, I'm not, I'm going to be stowed like that. This, because it in person, if I'm

I'm explain, so, you know, you're going to see, you, go to Morello's and the people coming.

Uh-huh. And you see people pass a tumult of people. So, so I was in middle of

those people, then to a little someone who would be to work, and then I was, and

he was, and he was, and then he said, but his car is exactly the

same that I know I that I conviv I with him all the life but

if the the roba suppose that it's a that it that that

that that that is that what I think to theorize is that

there are there can decide what? What are what? What are

how they're what are what they're in the case of

Octavio me It seems that it was intentional the fact that no you know it was. And he would be the capacity to

control it. And in some of the entities that you see as humans, it's not they're not

they're there. There's, there's, so, for stories that have been told,

this not this is not to be not, but it there are there's that they

can't a radio. So, if you do you see certain radio, you can

see if you enter's in the radio, you're so when you

you're a distance, a a way you're things that in a

time in a lot of and there's a lot of people who is that they spian, espian to

people, for that's they're in them, but no is, not it's random and there people,

there are people who there are people who do they're there's there's there's

there much to be to be to be, understand to interact and then then you're

doing with who they're what they're what? Yeah, me of fear, right?

It's that I'm thinking in Octavio and in this story. Yeah. So, every

that you say, every that says something that with that kind of with those,

I mean, I, she, me, she made a about, to say, there's a

mother to say, there's there's my papa with moreetones, my

brother also, I'm also, it's, it's been nothing to no, no,

no, and, no have not no your family or your or your

friends to have to have to have a lot of a not that I know

that I'm that I'm know, this, uh, if there a prima says,

no, that there a and that I'm a and I know what, I'm a

got a really, too, a third ojo and you let me let me

let's try let me let me let's let me I'm about bruchas Brujas

No, Personas yeah. No, no, no, persons that are and that

can modificars or. Ah, so? They're disting? I mean,

I know I know I see that that's I think that have a

certain power no, I don't see physical psychic for

to make to you see. But, but no me

met to you I think I think I'm, I think I'm much respect to to all this. Much, much respect and,

and, and, I mean, the people or the people or the people are they're looking,

they're not, they're menvolos. Uh-huh, and I think they need a little

a manita, and, I mean, I'm going, I'm going to get a person, I'd say,

I'm going to say, I'm going to, I, yeah, because, Because, I mean, you know, so, you know,

and so, that's, the money, that's, what I'm going, and then the limbo, no, Chulot,

for a while. That's, you know, rumbo at the end up, you mentioned, something, that's been

interesting. I've developed, or, more well, let, have done a lot of,

a story, about what is what what's what we're, after the after we're there's,

there's, not you can see the the quantity of stories, that have have been done

people that have been in a man, situations with families, situations with

people who know, situations in places in places in the world, we're in the other

stances, we're in spirits, of people, spirits of people who mentioned, I said that

I don't know if I'm something that have been, that are related to much, with the

apego that they've been on the world material. Right. When But they're

too apego to things materiales and that is what that's

what you don't say it not really that's not much but it's

that the consequence is that has that a lot too too very

because in many stories that they've told to

to this phant to this spirit of this

person and and still still still to do

the life of the person to to tranquil.

Yeah, exactly. And that there are certain way have done a lot of a pego and think in a life, after

the life, and of some this, it does it, it does it, you know, does it make sure? Yes,

totally, totally. I mean, I mean, I mean, I put to think in my tios, for example, both in my

two tias as my tio, and if were people totally dispegated that, that,

that, that, that, perfectly to what they'd and that in some moment they were

to go. Then I'm also I'm that this fear to the death I think you kind of a

like a like I'm want to die I'm going to do you know me want to know me kind of

all the time that I don't me want to well pass then then for example with

with with the terminals that are that are not I'm

I don't want to go and no I want to go because I still I don't know. It's not going to this type of people that when when they're

those who are the time they're probably to probably to that and the and the people that are and it's

something something something that something that the spirit is that's too too tired and their

energy a lot of very, very dense. You have been? Very dense. You have

it's not, but I see, so, for, for all the people, like, because, because, apart, also the energy of the people

that were here, that not they were not, I mean, there's a gancho very, very very, I mean, I'm going, no is the case of my prim, but my prim, I think, I'm,

I'm, you know, it's, I'm going to, in, it's a surprise. Because it was an accident automobile istical, this, the children were very little,

the husband, also, the wife and the two were, the wife and the family, and they were so much,

so, so, so, so, to do have the funeral, the husband was in the

hospital. So, it was a was a guy, it was a good because obviously until the

day I know that the wife still is very very, um, uh, well,

uh, and that no, if it's still his life, obviously, he's his

life and has his two children that are their but still

like with that the That's That's erred, that trauma That's a situation That's difficult to Sanar

So my primon for So I'm I'm sure I'm in segued So, Okay You know, I'm quite

All right? No Because of my Aniio No, I know No, I'm No, I'm No, I'm

No, I'm No, I'm This, I'm, this I'm just For the That's that then

me enter. So, so, I don't see. That's a thing that

you generate anxiety in general? No, in general. No, no, that's

anxiety, it's like, I don't how explain to it. If it's, if it's something,

I'm, it's a little is what I'm, I'm going, I'm going to not I'm

want to make a more, or, like, it's a problem, that, I'm

for being about this so, I'm, going to be able here And the

door of something, I don't because I don't know I'm still even educated this

so I'm so I'm sure that I would like to have I'm so, I can't

here, no end up there, but no see then so yeah, but I'm

I'm sorry I'm so I'm so much a lot yeah yeah but

but but but but but but in serious to

at the so suffocant? No, suffocant but if it's like. And like, but you're a

good at a question. But it's preemned or not but in 24. But it's good.

I mean, I say, I'm the person more more than the universe. Is in serious?

I'm I'm sure. It's ombros, spal, hands in the center of the

back, no, no, no, Cuello me. Tocame. Is in serious? I'm really. Okay.

I'm suading. Ah, a canion. I'm I'm the person more more violent of the universe.

So, do you know, I'm not so about the theme, no see, the energy that there

here, that I'm that I'm really, but there something. There's something.

Okay, okay. And, I'm just, I think that these situations of canalization as you

have to take to take care for the for the people that do take it,

not like it, not to not that you know, experimenter to see

to see a someone and so that's a man, no,

you know, so, like you know, don't don't he you know, you know,

because just I was just a with an friend, I think that this

is more common than what we're the fact that the people could

be there can be phantasas of people fall people

people that, I think, we're we, it's very common and I know a lot of people who

doesn't know, it's not that I'm the only that you're not for a lot of the there's not. There's a

person and you can be that person that's not that's to be a must be a so much

better, study, let, uh, informate and I know how to do

also, because I think that they're to be to respect to the people um

this, for what they've done, I mean, you know, so, yeah,

they're their life and they're a little a good, not,

so, so I'm so, I'm, I'm, to get, us, we're,

to, and not to give, to, a, to be, to be, to be

to be to get to me to get to let me, I, know, I,

know, necessity, if you interested, then it's it's a respect, I think I'm totally of

quite with you because there are different types of entities but something that they're in common is that they

don't like that's to be a respect to to any and if is a spirit

human, it's a person personal. I feel so it's a lot for the

person and not they're they're socesos atterators or or

desgasants or traumatics or that you put in a risk to people who need to not even the way that you

know, it's that is that I'm a lot so, it's a lot of people. And it

and it's the house, it's this this colonel is very old, I mean, it's a

could have whatever thing. It's correct. Duda, nothing more, you

think the you think the the the calls or those connections

are in the places or they're in the person? I think

the two, no? I mean, obviously if you go to a pantheon,

I'm to be more propensso to that that's the place. To be the place.

But, also, I think is the person like, like, like,

like, I know, I know, I know, I don't know, I'm not a lot of a

hugerly. Baja without, you know, to try to try to try to someone

not, no. You know, you know You know, you know You know, no For what you've lived, you've seen,

as far as a person. Some of the other person? Yeah. I've heard, I've heard I've seen, and that's

they're going to go to enter because it's a in the pantheon. You've got to see? Yeah, you know, yeah,

you know, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well,

much people coming and in a pantion in a point on a that, that question, you know,

those topas coming No, no, I don't distinguish that they are going

if I know, if I go to go to go to go to a Icelandia

Yeah, and this, there's, there there is an an an skeleton

and what a thing, that's supposed that in that there has been

many many there's many and literally is the carcasa

of an carcasa of an theme touristic, no? The, boy, the density that is the place is of madres,

I mean, and, well, you, you're going to, you're, you're, and you're,

and you're, you know, manches, I, I know, I, no, no, no, no,

so, of, so, that, so, so, so, so,

in, in, places, so, that, that, that, that,

you, , this, or, what you pass and you are at a certain

height you know where you know, there's a place where I'm going to see the

city of Mexico in the street of Churubusco of this side there there is

a pantheon and then you're there's the also it be like I don't

see if they're going to be on not on but you

see a lot of different The point of How many meters approximately

is the the point of the Panteon? What are about 20, 30, more or

less, I'm going to a car also to a velocity considerable but

is a about a 20 meters about. 20 meters, okay,

not are 100, 200 meters. No, it's a street and

the point and here is the It's a panther. Uh-huh. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay. That's interesting.

That's so. Very well. Robs, I'd like a chorro, the aperture, the stories. What good platica. And if she's

a rarrow in various moments. If she's, I see, I'm a little, I'm still, I'm going to, or so, yeah,

she's got to, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah, my theory is that, you know, I know, I'll go

to explain because I know I'm a person that's a person to get a to happen

like they're like they're like they're like you see a person, you know, you know,

has been to have people, you've been with them you know, I've seen a person that I'm a

way, I'm so I think for what I think, and for the emotions that I had,

connectable with things that's quite dense and negative.

Sure. So, then she comes to talk to and when he's a feeling the

place, it's a spantos. No, man. Spantos. Detentgo and you know, you know,

we're going to let's what? The gravation. How do you say, yeah,

I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to because it sentia. But the commentio is

this. Detubimimim the gravation and he said, let's let's do this.

I'm psychologist. So, so we're some exercises that had to be a question of,

I'm not I'm going to say to do because it's something like because it's a way of the motion

to do you to make it a way. And that impact about a level of energy and that impact

a level of interjections personal and that was a level of projection. So it was a

little global. We've two hours working and it changed totally

the place and he did okay we experiment because he

passed a day dayio feo, things so things so things like they're

going to get to I'm going to I'm I'm think I'm my theory is

this not is that you talk about I'm I'm I'm so that

you know is that you're sure and that emotion and that it's

a if if you see this yeah well yeah

if if if it's so that's the problem is

the that's starting to do this. Okay. If you do you know the

thing without that's the emotion generate that type of movement physical emotional, energetic,

uh, no collapse, no change. No, no, doesn't, that. The problem

is that that vinculation, because I'm that's a thing that is a

thing that does, I mean, I mean, I'm I know so, I'm so,

I'm but for the stories that I've told them and for the things that I've really

like it's like it's a antenna of radio frequencies so if you put in a certain

frequency that's what is what's a Rackas a M well just just these

sessions bye but but if you log you can change to

other type of energy what you are you're beingulando or the

energy that's radian is different if there exceptions

definitely but for general, with that has a minimum in the places, I know,

sure. Is it a different here a little? Yeah. So, do you do that's

something? Yeah. Could it be a could be. Could be. I mean, yeah,

and then you, see, shalda? You know? Yeah. Rock, is something with what

you want, to be here of the audience, the family nocturna? The reality, I'm

very content. Thanks for invite me, thanks for to let me to talk this experience and,

and, no, also it's a desawgo for me of to be able to tell

this and tell I'm not the only like I'm not the only to what you

do this thing that's I know but but then then the people see that

I'm in that situation many years and the stories that I did I don't I'm

the friend we have in common 20 one person that

I get to tell the sceptic, absolute, but, but very respectful and

it was a person that I'm good at a question, when in the podcast when it's

to start a community, they're going to a lot of people that said, I mean, to me

a lot of me, exactly. And I coincide with you, I think that's

much, I think, I'm a other phenomena that's that's not of this type and

they're there's there's there's a bit of about about but to be

a bit pass. But, Roks, where you can see? like Rox

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and list very well rocks here you have your podcast more a little a little

so much so I'm very good so for the for the family

noctur let's see a a good Semeanor and that you can't those

these pettias bye bye