HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - LA MANO PELUDA los secretos detrás del programa EP 118

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

¿Sabes cómo son las lenguas de las brujas? Secretos de la mano peluda hablando con uno de sus creadores| @MIEDOTECAOFICIALMX |ft. Nacho Muñoz | ep 118 Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a este nuevo episodio de @hablemosdeloquenoexiste el dia de hoy tenemos un invitadazo de lujo ¿sabes qué es la mano peluda? pues el día de hoy tenemos a uno de los productores , hoy está con nosotros Ignacio Muñoz "Nacho" quien nos revelará informacion secreta del Caso Josue, y nos va a contar lo que realmente ocurrió con Juan Ramón, prepárate para revelar el misterio que nos tiene atrapados desde hace mas de 10 años Nacho también es el cocreador de la @miedoteca y nos trajo una recopilación de historias aterradoras de brujas y nahuales, una cama de hospital que presagia la muerte de quien la use, relatos de fenomenos no humanos y muchas historias mas. Sientate y prepárate para un episodio escalofriante y perturbadoramente revelador solo en @hablemosdeloquenoexiste

And the Lord, the he's up all the everything he's over and saying

malditions. Yeah, I don't want to do this. I'm too I'm much fear.

But no me they're that I'm that I'm the two parts at the time.

And he said, like, he did I'm to come to come to

my deities or I'm I'm I'm we're we're we're

we're we're just to confirm what you just to reveling information that never never

asked. Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new episode of Let Me Too the new episode of I'm doing

a dream personal because front of you is a person that maybe many people know. It's possible

that some of not. But I want to present to my invite to

do you I'm I'm with him. Resulta that has some

six months. One of the last month, one I made a commentary. He said, you have to invite to the Miedoteca.

The name I fascin, the number me used, no he was, I used a place, a place, a place where

is a question. We're going that's a place. And me toped with Ignacio

Munoz, that he has been one of the producers and actually the locutor of the man

peluda, and when saw, me voled the head. This happened

to six months. I used the man peluda when was a little bit more and in a

moment I'm to hear of transmit it. And, the actual, you know, there's a time to do this moment,

more than this moment, he started in the channel for different stories that they were

that you were doing that you're doing, so you're so, thank you get to

this podcast. How is my brother? Hello. Many great. very

very content to participate in your podcast and, I feel emotional to get me to get me the people that have lived with these stories

of terror, mystery, and suspense. It's a cliche, but it's the real. I thank you thank you. I'm very

very much. I'm very very excited that you're very a person, one of the eminences that's been

in this camp and has been more to have been this a luxury for this channel. I want

to have two questions for my invite when it's the here. I want to

ask you, first, do you you think in the paranormal at the level personal? Yes, yes,

I think in the paranormal. We've had experienced that no us don't they can doubt,

and maybe at the long of the chat, we'll have some

important things that the people not would be they, they could

think they're to do the I think in the questions paranormal, the people

me, me, I'm much a reason when someone has an experience in the that you know,

that's, that's that make that the story is quite a real, and the people say,

ah, that's a Hollywood. I'm well, is that really,

those events, rompen many of the factors physical to the that's

accustomed to definitely will be a effect special in the relato, but the

experience to say to say, this is it's it

said, more than a lot of a lot well rather than so excellent second

second question a level personal has had been experiences yes

yes yeah I'm I'm was a sceptic of the phenomenon

of that maybe there will there are people that there are people

that there no while the program we've abordated

the time and from various perspectives no there's a perspective very interesting

that mentions that, for example, or the extraterrestres not are other things, but demonies, that try to confunding to the person. Yeah, of the entire,

with that simple idea, we can't get it in the ambit of the supernatural. Now, for other part, the extraterrestres

not is something that's a thing, that I'm to put up a, out, and go, to,

out, or go to a little mountain and nothing can't assure that I

going to find one one one or I want to me I'm

going to get with an extraterrestre it's difficult for

so so so I think it in the

paranormal and I have had I have three

very very so I don't know I don't

maybe in the first I did the second and

the third were very similar But, I said, no, effectively this exists. Now, for the part of the phantasmas, for the part of the demonies, of the spiritus,

from the other than we've seen experiences fervent, that, I've seen, a few times that were one that no existia. For the hard, for the fort. So, of a repent, you're going to the Bible, and you're going to find us a versicule where it says that they were

the disciples in the barca and they were a lot of a figure that was a figure that they were

and they're a phantasm is a phantasm a signal that word phantasm is a sign that there

exist the entities that not they don't have been because if not they've

mentioned and point on so that also also also

of that effectively exist in the malifices, exist in the malditions, for the time I don't do in the

most minimum of the phenomenon yeah, at the level personal, more well, these experiences

personales that you have been with phenomena or who ovnis, could you could you

could be you know, could be that you was more or less the year of the

year of I was I was I'm working in a radio diffusora here

in the city of Mexico in the Ponyente is a one area very high. If the cruises, constitutants and reform, it's to the south, it's a city that is very

high, then it's in sub-vita. For the time, from the building where I was transmitting, there a ventanal that was to all the north of the city. The city, the village, the city, the village,

you saw, and just the part of above, they could be the Tories of satellites. It's a

good very known here in the city of Mexico and because it's in a certain of

the serrito, the Towers satellite were at back from the point where I had that

I was a perspective I was you. Now, if you move the

view the back to be we're we're we're that the

avions that were to the people pass on this

in this direction and then they'd have waltzed the airport and you

get a what they were in the route Mateo. I was going to that's

the route to make that's the route to make all the so they're they're in

an order. Resulte that we were we're transmitting and a man

and you see look that's there we've seen and we looked

to be a point light very very very very and

there was the focus of the the photos and

the I'd He'd a little bit a perspective this would be the city and the

point was here. In this same perspective we've got to be various avions that not were at

this altitude but that were at the middle more or then there there were there were

to the route to Matteo I said that's what is? And we we were

doing, we were we're doing we're doing an o'clock and another here and of this

of a we're we're talking about we're talking that's going to

last of 40 minutes we're the attention first that it not was

the first we're we're we're not the towers of satellite and see

the vehicles that so so we're we're something

we're something that was that was a point luminous that

pretty intense intense. After of some 40 minutes look at what it's more

I'm sure I'm sure that the people that were going to see the city of Mexico that

were many many were there necessarily they were because there was about about 40

minutes of the of the time I've got I got to I was

I was I'm the opportunity to have when when

that that point that that that's so see my

of them. Obviously another, other, other loose, he's another movement me did rare, that if you, not, if you, I don't know, I did, because what I saw, was those that were opened, they were sure, they were, they were, they crossed,

and they were, and it was different. And I said, wow, that was what was? And one's resisted to believe, I, I said, no, surely, it was something, you're resist,

as, if you're, the first time, you're resisted, because, you're, not is possible that I'm observing a phenomenon ovny, so in vivo, no? And to me

was going. I was to I was to do all the world in my head to do. I said, no,

this, there's no other explanation. Objects volado, no identified. And with that I'm

kept. Then, then with the course of the program, you're going to

you're a thing, we're a way, we're various people have seen the same

that I've described in a form very similar as I'm I've got to describe it means

that it usually when there this type of the visitments the second the other

the other that I took that was a much impactant was just

I was I was I was I'm from the city of Mexico and

you pass a pass a little a little a

Puebla. Inclusive, if I mal no I remember, there's the volcano. And I go to

manage it. I always I always do the people, I'm recommend to the people who use the

lenses for sol. I mean I'm to the color amber, because

matisam very well the the brillos and all. The the

sky was of those times that is like it's like black

casino, no? So, no, is neblin. It could you say, is that it was neblin. No, it's neblinia, because if you can't see to see, several kilometers. But the sky was saying, no,

it's just to distinguish nubes, a simple view. In that, I'm I'm going, I'm going to, and I'll see to the volcano,

and then when I saw, there was a plato, like, inclinable, of this form. I said, what?

What I'm, and I'm unfortunately, I've got to a curva, because me, he took to surprise to

I was to do you go to and then then I go to and then I'm a

turn to and I'm a curve and I'm let me let me see to all of those who

was the only that I'm and I'm that's that's lamentable but it's

sure so that I'm a soper a lot a plato a

soper so so inclinated and you you say wow then then the

program, you tell you know that it's been a visitation a little common. In fact,

in some differentations that the people are doing just this, to put a plate in form

obliquua, no? So, inclinio. And you say, wow, well, no, no

there's a third time that I took the visitment and was only a last time

that was a great velocity rapidissimo. No, it was a satellite because

it's a direction. You know you know a satellite if it's certain that could be

to change to change not they're absolutely is to angle of 90 degrees and that

and that's no, no, no object terrestrial for the most that I

know the I'm the but not the velocity to the I'm yeah

yeah the that you did you see I see that the

distance was a but even when was I'm

distinguish some color? Yeah, it was silvered plateed. Platteado?

Duda. It was a plateado or like a spejo? No. Well, from my

point of view it not a spej. I was I was a plate or

like one of these cisternas that use in the fabrices that are

chromas more and less as much as like asero unoxidable

as as an nonxidable correct. Okay, okay you

understand. you, these experiences you're in the when you're in front of plough. Fidate, that was entering, in my history in the radio, let me commentate

that I went to the radio at the 21 years. With that, me paid my studios. And, yeah I've done, right, right, I just,

I've been more 30 years in the radio. 41, for to be exact. I was in another group radiophonic and there

me took to do a bar of like a kind of in where had included a program

of astrology a program of a brugheria and a program of the

development of the mind and all this so, so so

then so yeah I had I had I certain a

certain of the fact, it was one of the reasons for that I gave you to the man pened

because I was there was a way to do I'm with my companyers, not I

was I conductor we're in the production we're in the controls, but

I didn't know I didn't know I'm yeah quite familiar for me

but when we when we when we we're we're taking other

perspectives other points of more interaction with people who

who are also that's about I'm used to I'm used to the conductors

that I'm with the people who I'm not you're going to enter to the digas major,

so I consider I yeah yeah I have a question I'm a question,

you, you have you had been an experience of the type of normal spects,

phantasas, demonios, or it's to be to be personally to have been

a experience I'm in my life I've have many

testimonies of the things that the mind can do

do so maybe there will talk to me

I'm I'm all what has to be with with

the introspection with what has to the logic

rational excellent and to me had been have been succeeded various

things, but of the order of the miracles. So, yeah, various experiences that,

if not were directly with me, were of people, people, and what me opened

to me other panorama, and also that is the reason for that we we're

in the man peluda, no, what our is more more more than

to talk with the person, when can be there, you have to

There are people that do much to comment and there are a retroalimentation and there are other people who simply want to

you're going to you're and all that is valid. All right. Because it's a program in where the

people is considered a program of entertainment more not of investigation more not of

divulgation of some it's like to hear to listen to the people that what

most what's what's what Ramon, always always always

is that for us to hear the people, it's a great, and it's a reality.

Yes, I remember, of the day of day of the way still is the phrase

of the word of the first of the star you always you're you're

like you're really in the audience. Yeah, it's a slogan

that we use much time, in the man peluda the

the star is you. The star you're you. Totally of

course, I think we we're in a time in the time in the dialogue, the

permitiveness the opportunity, it's a lot of people have been a opportunity to experimenter.

A few people want to do, but the that someone preste the the o'id to hear

to hear for many is a good, and it's a time me has taken, and we've

done to be in the time, we've been their people, but now, they're

the opportunity, to tell what You're saying there are people that what they're looking is in a situation to one is, to something,

or something others have something that have been a lot of people. And there are people that need is be heard of people,

need someone that's a person, but I have a false a or well, no, it's false, but

there's a question about that at that while that's in the people, and we're

talking with someone who has been 20 years in more of 20 years, that you

you go you're cargando like this type of energy negative and then they

start things things negative what has been your experience planting like this

preamble that is the creency of many people sure

that if I consider that if I considerate some some

dimones in the bolsa or I'm my medial my medal of Sanberito or

a tetragamaton but fortunately both Gina as your servitor we're people of much faith

we're firmes in our convictions I think in God I consider Christian and I

don't me I'm so it's a little the error that maybe

committed our ancestors and people Juan and Ruben like that

that's not they're not very clear to to the

people and that have had has had many versions or various versions,

talking of malditions, talking of things like, because if it's certain, to both those we know, we've seen much a major relation

with Juan and we know that he was very very very strong, but at the air,

no, I didn't be so tachant and that I don't do you do I'm

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, to me what is to make clear

of what I'm to make what the people are the people say, if we're

we're not tolerates in that not there reason for the way to be in a program

that you get in a bad moments. We're they're frequently

and you're after the program doormen well? Sure that's

I'm very because I know with who I see who who's who's who And so I'm,

I'm protect. It would be very different if I would feel vulnerable to any attack, if I would be able to I'm sorry,

there, I think, I know, I know, because I'd I have to have my, my guru

of cabicera, to be, if it's true, that we're that we're a psychologist, a,

um, not is for the consulta my, if not is for consult, the, the,

the people that don't they're and we we're obviously we're in that in that complement

that we've done in this complement and we've done from our postura and I think there's going to those things

perfect. Me you, you do, you assistes a church in that you're

not a name that's Christiana nothing more. Yes, being a Christiano is a

style of life. It's so we consider us. Excellent. Excellent. I like

what you you tell you I'm comment. In my case, I'm very creient

since a more of 20 years in the question of the ecumenism. I'm not the necessity of an

opportunity and a union between people and the people are that's things where

there's something is something because yeah the divisions are very marked

and the world of the world of the world of so. So, the

people, the people know the people, I'm the family in some time I was I was

I'm a seminarista studied psychology I'm psychologist and so I'm so I'm an experience of both parts me took in some moment to have an experience mystic and also

some experiences atterradoras in some moment and right that me that you that you're really much the

attention because me I'm identified I was a person that honestly I'm I'm going to James Randy

I think in some moment you could have heard to have heard of this person

and the how he's, the way all the tricks of the people that were

people who was a hero in my infancy and my adolescence and I see

all the questions of the esoterism I saw that there I'm

that these situations atterer there there a person a

general in the other after effects special until I

even in a there no involved. And then that's so me parted the

head to the case. Even when I did it much time in masticer that situation, after the

years I said, no, has no, not at level rational. So, if we don't know a world

in the that maybe is there spiritual. What is exactly? No, I don't

know. Because I don't because I felt an data. What I was a

fact that I'm can't data to experiences religious, if there was also a great quantity and

also me gave to say, oh, if there's something more that we're a, I don't see,

a fount of a form, a source of a space, and that transcends the human, of a certain

way. And I also, something that something is not to get the program

to do something, because it's a great luch to let me the not exist and

chronicles of the two canals, because a There's, there's, there's a tendency very marked to that's a lot of, I'm in,

I'm in, I'm in, I'm in a lot of people, there's a situation in the that's, but also,

not as this side when what what you're selling is charlataneria, what they're doing is promote a

a new thing, what they're doing is a, a, a porta because the people are in business is

in a business, and then you know, you're doing something, and you're, and it's

in the personal, For me, it has been a conflict to say, well, I don't want to be a new thing for them. This program is an issue for my buskia to care

to learn a little more about these things and not not to be a new business lucrative for people who not can not where is a matter

a matter. So that's, that's a lot of attention. I've got in the experiences that you've lived in the

relato's that you have given to the attention that you say, there's, here there's

something. Well, yeah, really yeah. Look, after of

many years doing this, a more I'm to be a different to be a lot of

they're they're they're saying that the possession or that the

case Jose or things so, because are very scandalous

are so are episodes very scandalous but to me

in reality the cases that I like and that most

me impression are those that they're they they're they

they're they and you're wow here there there

there no no no here here there there

has been being the misis chanclotas not the

because all because all it does there there there

has a kind a kind of a fundamental a

common or little frequent. And one of the cases recentes that most me have impacted is of the person that you know, he's never, he's he went to three times. It was they were

beling in a people, and the man, the he's up until all what he had on and says, and say, and all,

the, he goes to get me, they're going, and that's all the people, they're all over, they're all

were going to do, others were to help them, to have to be to be three, four hours

he'll to get to call to call to doctor oh, yeah, well,

so, so you say, how is possible? The last time that was the time that was

a period like four or five days. You, you can't a one,

to be to get to the son, and he was there was a man,

and he You can't imagine. You say, no, this is, it's a rare, it's a very, it's a very, now.

Now, the person that was a person with a person with a language very simple, very

decimus provincial, well, of, the, of the, of the, of,

the, uh, uh, uh, uh, despite, uh, but people,

uh, people, that are things, you know, notas, as well, when you're not, you're not,

you're doing, you're saying, this person no, no, has no, no, it's not even intention, nor to impact, or not to give the attention, but, as well, it's not sure, we're not sure, and it'spelnant, that they've lived, and they're going to talk to, and that me

he's thinking, no, about the possibilities of, of, the, of, many things that can occur in the world paranormal. Well, that's, and many other cases. That you're whaling, you're going, for example,

something that me in the personal, me appassionate a much, is to be about the death, because

I'm going to this point of the murder related with almost all, with almost

we could we have been hours and talking to the respect and we don't

to get to get to a conclusion, for no, that's

one, you're, you know, you know, you, you can be

be it's all I think from the point of view because my

cosmovision obviously what I have lived the same that I observed because I

have that defect that I always to the things that I'm to try

to try to another option or another other possibility what is

what could be that is something. It's because it's that I don't I don't

it's not that I'm not it is that I'm I'm sure I'm know more

and when we're going about the death are the episodes that more to me me impact

because we're all we're you've heard of a sound you see a

effect of a so we we're we're to get to

at some moment only that the difference is that some

some have many we don't have no we know because precisely in our

credency us invite to think that the other world is much better than this we're doing.

Okay, you talk about the death about the process biological, the implications

that has the moment of the how you you know, what you think is that comes

to do that you get in your experience I don't perfectly that there

people that are people that have Mewater, they're with tranquillity. And the day that

they're in the pass, many, for, I go, pass apparent, because they're that they're that they're

a life in a form like a very fatua, a, an open, and they disappear.

But others because they're in a life eternal, and when I think, and when I

think, it's in a sense of a person, that's a personal, that that's a future,

that, that's better than the actual. Then, then they receive even with the arms

about. We're going to have been a little rispid and has been to do with the program of

radio, the that you're now you have to get to the 100% with Jinn.

In the Mano Peluda, exists all this theory about the death

of the death of Juan Ramon. I've heard two versions like very

very the first, the first case, Josue and what has a is, a maldiction, etc.

The second, lamentably the minister Juan Ramon, it was a thing that was a, he had had been out

of that he was a person, and was very aggressive and and yeah, finally, it was a more life.

But those stories always are in say, say, say, are you are some

of here, and for here, and me it was and I'm, and I'm, and so,

you you, you, you've is there and that they've these

experiences, what is the history that you to you know, what I know

is that yeah, actually he's had been a mal of much time,

problems gastricos, problems that each one we can't have different no,

that if gastritis, that if colitis, that if some complication with

refluc or things, so that each one we can have

over all after after after certain of and

he had problems stomachals um well he was he

was in treatment and so no oho that I'm not I'm talking about

something that can't be that can't be quite but no it was a

problem yeah I'm no it's but what what he

consider the synchronic when he falle when he But a

person that's the end of the first of a year of not to be in the

program. He's he went he renunciable to the program. Pough

people he said they're doing like that the maldiction of the

man peduda he he was in other company radiophonic

and with his project we were we're we're we

we're because there there the re-enquenter with Ruben and all that, that surely you have to know. But,

well, this so, it's complicated. Of actually, we know, we're talking about him. He had to talk to

talk to Gina to her to her. And after two, three years,

we called a known, a newtue that was a telephoonist, and she was the news.

What the past is that Juan Ramon Paddy was, in this moment I was passing one of those etapas difficult

of the other radio diffusory yeah no was in the man paluda that was where he was where he was

the figure so it was the moment that cancelar the revista ventaneando

where also also like the a repent the life

you do a revest and we we're we're and we're

we're a little decaled yeah animically but you know you know

you know that's the same you know never it has to go good

to get good a sometimes not very that that's that

maybe propitio to that those defences back to

that that decaled a little of that that

has has been in the television and why not to say it was it was

it's it was a all everyone we've seen that

transmission because they they're quite very very well

well in the sense that if you're doing of that you

want to you want to you want to that you you

you're you if you if you you misic

b no you don't you to you Because there family

of there's many there many things of the and simply for being more

more amalier to call the attention, you can say what can't. And we know,

in reality is what that we know to get to because apart

the people are very very raras in occasions are very rareas. You you say

the truth but the truth is about the other other side, what is more spectacular. And

well, no always is so. I consider that that's what has been made more popular, because it was published in different channels of YouTube, even revistas,

even portals, the maldition of the man-peluda, no, no, no it's more

correct, because we know, when I I don't know if 15 days or 8 days yeah interned in the hospital. Or so, no, it was that he went, but it was a process, he felt bad, it was,

they were in the medical, it was canalized, and all what it's doing when interned to someone. And, well, they're in a hospital, it's simply

it's just to say that's a for a fact, no? And in this case, they're using that inter,

to pass the famous interview. that was the that he gave the trust to all. But the people no, no, don't

pass or not or not want to also that there that there that when when

he was in this at the out of the palutut with with Pastor Hugo

Alvarez that that always has assor- to the and he has assorated and he practically

received a Christ, Juan Ramon was being with the pastor there's a there's

we've put this we don't we don't we're to use to do do you

if you see you if the people see we're we're not to not

talk the point we're not to talk the time who are maybe we're we're not we're

we're we're there's Ethic, of media, we have a

ethical, we're not correct. That I would be that I'm to make to get

more views, more likes. And then so you can say what there. There were various

things, if strange, could be to be paranormal, maybe the famous

syncronic to to the two years fall the pastor Robert

Guaso that also us, we know, in that case specific

of Josue, no? And you're wow, the maldition oh, no, if there's

there's a maldiction. Well, perhaps you could say that there's because

they're not, no? But what did a Christian for us the

life is Christ and the to die is the I don't

think for the pastor that he had been more

time that that was a maldiction, but more well,

accept a , a learn to accept a one, accept the We've got to have the opportunity to talk with the family

just confirmed what we just knew what we did not talk to talk to the pastor Hugo Alvarez just to confirm what we just we've got the opportunity to talk with the

same Josue just to confirm what we just but the people is so insistent that Look, it's very

simple. The as even they're never never never

to be never to be and this and this is repeated millions of times

yeah never never to then it so it's that

in for example, in programs in where they remember the

memory of how they they they they they're

they don't we don't we don't many they ask,

well, like, so how you're doing you? That's the more correct, no you think? Oh,

well, you're doing, you know, you know, you know, you know, I'd say that Juan

Ramon was a person of faith. He had a maldiction, could be but he not was

only, in all the case, he had to be to defenders from his faith.

Maxime that when Juan he was he had accepted to Christ in his

heart abutably. There's a there's a grabation. But that's aborried for some people

that's not not relevant. The relevant is the maldiction. And that's incredible. That's incredible. Fidate

that I'm really this dialogue because I think is one of the, of the great situations that the

people that not produce these programs, not entiened the grand dilemma that is

about the the views or the because there's the dilemma. You know, you can't exploit and it can inflate

to infinite. But, but it's correct. And, this program has been has been

has been people who have been situations, but also have been people who they're

going to say, this is something about, so, so, so, so,

so, so, so, so, so, so, it's, I

have talked people, that it's all moment of the

interaction is, well, you're you're taking the little

I'm not a before and I'm not a question, I'm I'm

agree with I'm there's a line etic here. At final,

this, I'm I'm to keep for repeat that phrase,

but me really, yeah, I feel very, I'm, me,

I'm, there's there, there, there's this is this is a

percent in I don't have any the time, nor the methodology or not it's made to do that

way to be this one but it's a thing in entertainment of the quality and yeah something very very barat

that's made and still other line more in the exploiting a person, no, for X

or Y's reason, that's in a situation disfavorable and you there's here there

there to lucre at the through a time or of a great,

that that you that you've been maintained firm, because I think in short- -plas

if it's not general time, the real-plas, and the people that really really, he really's

to know about these things. There are who are people who do it, but there's interest to

know, and conforms you're going and you're going to programs that really are doing

there stories, pistas, of things that are more more than, so,

then so, so, then I think they mark a So, that I'd

do a good. But I top too something with a good

to be from a perspective, and I think I in the medit but

not, you know, not me you're so there and I do I'm

there and I know, there was a she was a she

was a to see to a Juan Ramon when was

I was he was like it was some

some same chick that you mention is well right because you're trying to tell you tell you reveling information that never never us have asked. Okay. This same chick that you mention

was the person that we know she was that was gone to Juan Romo. And it was just so we're we're, well, you know, you're not, you're in Monterey, I think. Yeah, in Monterey.

Okay. I don't know how much know the city of Mexico, but we're in university

the uncied a corner there's a central commercial that's called a

central coyacan and there a area a area of the area where

there are the hamburgas and the food and the area of the

area of any place no and just there was

where this she was he he was just in the

area in the some of the food of Juan Ramon,

he was much to the area of food, various times we went there to get to be

in the mesitas like, no? No, no, they're pure restaurant.

No, like, and there was where she was where she was that it.

It was those that we've been with him, those we know, we know, but you

learn the figure of the person and you know? And those you know,

and all just that just that she had been that had been Yeah, I had a year of not

to be in the program. We, we're doing with him via telephonic. Of actually, a thing curious, it was a terminated our program

and was the end up. And then we went to, and he called, What, brother? How was it? We're going to

you? Yeah, well, you know, yeah, yeah, he, here,

so, it was very, very, cotro, Juan. Yeah. The plan, was very,

very, they're very cabula. Yeah. So, we were talking so on the program a little

people didn't know, because is that those plattics, who's about and there's

by the telephonic. So, but we we're not we're we're contact with

him, although not had, in a principle, there was a certain rivalry

because, for obvious reasons. And that's a point also very important that,

you that you know you knowces of the thing you can make a

conclusion that makes that complement my form to think for some

a reason or absurd a reason we we've maintained in the

program and I think opportunities for opportunities to get us

there has many many many many many opportunities we

have resisted in vats of production. You know, you know, you know, competition of other.

Horace. Competions of other productions. Never a never a and he says to the

head. No, look, you'd do you do you do you do this,

you should do it to make a idea, to get a tsaia. We've we've

been done to do you and as a moment. We're put in the hands of God

to do he wants to where he then we'll put it we're going to put it and then

we're going and then yeah yeah yeah there's there there's

there's been many but the last time we're we're in person with

Juan Ramon was just the day that he's despid to the

a a and we we're we we're determining

the program we we're we're we're we're we

we'd even three of the morning like, oh, yeah, you know, I'm talking,

you know, you know, when you get to you know, you're in the microphone, not of

out of the phone, and even the police us, they were with a bad

because just they want to get your pestauch, no? But as we're

we're in the stationionation not they're, because they'd have to

open the door and all that. And the last that we we've

I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm Juan, well, Juan,

the thing is so, you're you're going, you're to be, because

you're so you're so that when you're when you do you do that you're

to get to your team. But, in this occasion, to do this change,

no, they did the facility to go to the team. But we

we've done we've done, a plan of the when there was, when there

opportunity us I was to have to do so it's

so we're not even we're we're we're the response

of the radio formula of that first we

called Juan renunci he they they're so you

know you know you know you you know you know you and

you as you and you obviously you start

you because the renonon not is inmediate, not it's of that I'll renoncio, and tomorrow, no?

I'm not? So, there's a period that has to cover it legally. So, that period had like 15 days.

Juan Ramon came to have I'm a yearn't I'm to cover you of his voice and programs

of his programs gravas. So, then we're they're called, Mario Cordova, that was the

initiator of the man peluda, precisely. He was the, He launched the program to the

air, not as a conductor but he was the director of the first or the second

or the second chain national. And then he he's he says, you think

to be able to get the program? No, well if you have the

knowledge so they know to the people? Well, yes. Because

practically because we're we're we We put us the mess for that Juan

would be you know, you know, you know, you know, it's the production. Yeah,

it was the program, the work of, the program, the work of Yina, then, then he could

do it be his work to conductor. So, obviously, we know, we had the contact,

obviously, we had the timing, we know, we know, because, that was or not,

sure, Juan Ramone, that was that was we were, we're all we're doing, and now,

what did, and, it's, some vitacoras. I always do vitacoras of all

and so I'm not notating cases. Well, I'm taking my

not as my not as because I know that I'm can offer to

occupy that that I'm a I'm a methodology

that I have been my methodology no so then so

we don't you can do you can't you

can't wow is going to be something I'm I'm going to I'm bringing this partecit

right I don't know why me I'm going to get to the hill we're going to we're going

and I'm well Juan well you you're going but I you're you're a thing

that if you you're going and the program not we're we're

we're all the kilos for that so it so it so you

brother you can you you'll say, no, you know, so you like,

so they're like, oh, brother, etchel a lot, no, they're very tons and, okay, so in that

period, we're almost competition. And, and there things that Juan yeah,

it's that's true, that we were part of his staff in formula, but yeah not we're

not, where's where he went, in Exa? And then we call us called,

we know Mario Cordova and we said the Miercola let's we're in Mervoles come, we need to

come as if we're urgent and we're and we're and we're saying we can't see if we're

we're going and we're not Mario Cordova or other person we need we're

we're going to we're to present to the new conductor of the man we're doing what's what's what

what's you what you know what you know No, I don't know I know, let me investigate. Resulta that as

there are different powers and there different mandos and they're in the two mandos working parallel one,

Mario and the other mano that came to the, in that moment the vice-presidencia operative.

Yeah. And when we came we're we've given the surprise that they present a Ruben.

I know I know was from the radio center where we'd we're we're not we're

we're I'm not I'm starting my career radioponica and he yeah he was

a lot and he was he was a locutor of radio but yeah I know I

know I I was I had I had I had I had I had I was a

man peluda because in a moment when I was in that bar let's

let's let's let's it was my competition too because

started with the the man penude when we we're

we're the relato with the broujo major. So it was a story very rare

very chistos and the destiny you're putting in X place. Total of that yeah

it's disbenece the thing that we're going to do us the

afian to him but we're they're going to keep being

the people are the same that's with do it. Oh, well,

it's fine, no? In any way, we're always we're always that when when we're there,

then we can't let us get to get it and so there was much support there, there was

there was much support of the company to make the program with Ruben

and try to to minimize the halet that had Juan in the other program of

competition but well the things not had had their character and I

don't not commulgo with the people of the here in in formula

was a figure and there was a part more of the talent

of the talent not I don't no I didn't the I'm here

not it was it was it was important because it

was important but it was more more than that of

your program and in formula he had even a direction so it's things

different but he he he he he was trying to

affian he assumed other and I think I think that that

could have been the reason for so he finished

his program yeah probably he don't he also

he too he don't we don't we we're we're we're

we're what what he said, and now what he did? And we saw him, we've got him, and he's he said, we're going to, the war of the colas, no? Okay, okay.

This, how many time it was? Well, a year. One year. Was what he dur was, more or less the program yeah when he's out, right? Yes, yeah, because it's in February and the vacations of

December, almost always they're never they're on programs

and after the vacations of December he he's he no he

no he went to program and we're we're we're

we're we're doing we're also also he was receiving

much support this uh regal uh excursions uh

activations activations of placas so so I'm he's I'm

he's having a contrary like they were restringing and then it was very

rare. Why do you do this? Because there have been infinite of occasions in that

we can't be part of the program and has sustained the company.

I and so we have assumed like there there there

there we have to do I'm to say what would be

very presumpto to say to say what is the lab

the um maybe to talk with the people, give another perspective, is to

give other type of of the, if is that someone is that is a

capacity to give advice, I don't be able to give them, more

to receive but God me do understand, no, and there's

so for some reason we've got to what I

do do what I don't I can understand at

100 what is the mission I'm trying to I've tried to to look at all I don't know we've thought I've thought we've thought we've been trying to be firm in our conviction

and very neutral is in what the people think if we're trying to give our point of view when we're asking because if they're asking me are having liberty to

say what I think so and that's what we've occupied. Okay. Recurals in the time that you have been to have been the locutor, with Jina,

of the man-peluda, and also, since they've in the Miodoteca, what has been the case more

aterrador or the who has made his attention? Well, there's a case of a woman,

it can be quite be simple, but not it's a woman that

I said I'm because my my is Nahu okay yes my my is Nahu

resulta that this she was to visit a place to a more or more I remember the

story but this is the essence was to visit to a place in a

different the little the night in the nights and the other day he said

his mom oh, my mom, me save the boca, feo, like a and say, oh, why,

well, then you know, then I'm to get, and then and say, and said, no,

that's got you a coyote and he's, he's, they're , they're

all the gillade to the thing, that the she's, he's, this,

uh, he metia to get to eat the guys, and, and, and,

she, he didn't he'd I was hungry. No, no, I don't I'm very full. Fiat just, you're saying, how you think, century 21? And still

this of the Nahuas, no, no, it's not, it's supposed to stories, legends, myths. You, no you can't doubt, the person that you're talking to, a lady who's not, a man, reitero, that no, I don't have

to be to mean, not, no, no, nothing. And we've talked to the story. Other stories that me they're

impacted so. They're these that are these that are the brus

to be me, for I'm I'm think I think I'm a

think you you're you're you're a babyito no no two

three months of not they're not not not

those they're so they're they're they're they they're

they they're they or in the door or a sometimes about the camera

how you know how is how can have been to have back out of the

camera to make a tachito how how it can be so

so we're there there there there there provoking

in the not you know you you can't not

not you know you feel you the the

part you feel the the And they enter a So, a dream so

profound, so that's that you can know when the when the little

is a little how you can't, how they they're how they they're

the the point is that or it or they find out of the camera

that there a baby's a that you have to get to

get to get to or to find it in the door and

in the car and you you you you What are

Or, or it's of those relatoes that people say, is that I robbered to my

baby, we're we're doing and we know. Who's then? Then you

know, then you know, there's that there is a rumor, that's

that's that's and something, and I think I think I, the century

21, are you, are going to this thing, is a thing, what is this is what

I'm passionate of the program, of the other. Things that no, no, I don't have

explanation. Yeah. Of each she has, what's it was, about the two or three

months, there was a child, the chick intervesting he made saludos, the good Yadira

was, she put to recopilary stories familiares. And there there was a story that

he told, no so, so her or her mother, and a lot

in the people who a Brucho that had he had rebated

the life of this manner the parents and the mom

and the time and they were they were and they

were and they and she about the the

and the say is that the book or the language of

these not are not they don't like a one a little

and it absorb. Exactly, exactly. And that that's the power of adormecer to the person and there was another story in the that she was about about to engage them, that made us hear of voices, like if were they were from familyaries, for that they were, but they were, they were, in the

family or in this vision, and she was adjudiccable to this brouca. But, yes, so, are, stories that, also in the personal me impact, no? How, how, as day of today, that all the world is so technological, still

are still occurring this type of situations or the people have experiences of this type. It's incredible.

It's that you know, to put a play and of a repented and I start a

story that me stremecue a much was in an hospital. Resulte that I don't know,

I'm going to think I'm to inventing the piece, in an hospital, the

Piso 3. The people that were in the time, not passed the day, not

they were all the next day. All those who were there were they were

they were how is possible? What energy guard that that camera when

you know, in the hospitals, in urgencies what what is

the things are the government no, the of the government,

no, the state. But always that they were he, the same

camilleros evit them to put a people there when it was very necessary they'd to the

camera 13 and all those who they were not they were not they they said

how it's how is possible that that's that energy is that

the car another other thing important and also

that me and one, no, I don't see if you one has accompanied someone in an

hospital in the IMS. Yes, you know, you know, you know, that's not there's a

family, and your patient, for if needs a you do you do you do you

know, but there people who get a emergency and no, no, no,

has located to the people, and all this. How you was you to imagine that some

people that were there the personal, not I don't think that all, obviously we're talking of exceptions, that's what I'm going to to think. They're going to be able to think.

They're in doing offrendas human. And there are people they're going to offend. You're saying, no, no, no, it's or so.

Who's, are? Some things that you're, there's, there's there, there's, there's, there's, there's a, there's, but, as well

of what you are you get to get to tell the story of the doctor Picon in

Argentina? No. It's a doctor that he was a decorated and known

for his labor. But in the pandemic he preste this of the streaming

and they did some he said oh, okay doctor, all the time

he's talking of questions of medicine not there has been there

in some there has said I have I've

have three experiences par normal. It's two or three. But there were two that he mentioned that were very very. In the first, that they did a radiography, a phantasm. And the history

is that impactant. He says, if I mean, me tell in this, I don't know what I know, but as well, I know what I've, I know that's the second story, because in this, I don't enter in detail, is about a a new farmerer with the he had a trot. And he said that

this infirmero, no see if was a ligado, a question of a question of Palo Mayombe, or Santa Morty, no, I don't I don't remember to one of two, but

he had an offender with certain people who were there and they're in the hospital.

And without that they'd get a a little a filer and a little more and he had the

alfeyer and that person less than three days after he was going to

he was a surprise that person because he not fallia and they're people that not

they were they're people that I were that they were going to do

the after that, he said, he's they're to get him to him,

and we're about he was about he was he was a one of the one of the he's doing, and he's

like he's doing to come to my deities or I'm doing something about my deities. About

of the I'm still I'm still going to another story that

that too that's because that me was the doctor that he he was a woman

going to do a little a surgery and When I went to the chirofano, this doctor

accustomed to put her music and put her in a music. I don't know what I mean. He us said what was, but no, no, I remember. So, put so music and the senior Voltaire, he said, oh, I always said

that it would be very good to move with that music. No, signora, what happened? No, don't know, you're going to be able to do you, what we're going to do you're not so complicated.

You don't see, you know, just just never, let's say, yes, if you, I'm put in

his hands. He's a woman. A complication there. A complication there that's saying,

but because the she was a said to have said, it would be a more to

get me with that music. And that he kept to the doctor here,

no? So, now there's let me say, let's let's

let's say, let's when they are to do you to be to be a child,

or has been said, they've been, said, or they're something that it's a

manifesto that you know that's not not conscientently but you know

they're they're they're not they're not they did they did they

did you for example those that says well well I think this is my

last my ultimate navid so I'm that we're we're

we a middle so I'm said he yeah said or

that that that interned a a parent knowing that what they were

not, it was great because any surgery is grave no, it's a bit

and there's an anesthesia of the more more, but but you know,

you notas the thing, that that's that yeah,

yeah, a sometimes we're sometimes we're just don't

and the people, oh, I'm I'm I'm a tachito

of chichron me entojured some some t'nitas or you say every thing you

say you do you do you know at the end of you know to be that

you're going to that's the that is the that is the notice that's the that

tristently like if the God they gave a opportunity to

to to to make to to get the

people of the person to to be able to be well, when it's

when it's when it's there, so there's there's some kind of are a kind of

recurrentes and a sometimes you know, and you say, oh, I'm,

I'm, I'm going to be a thing that is a person, or a truco,

or a gruerro or that or that chaman or prophet no, because

you're you're you're doing where the patterns recurrentes

there there's there one that me that I'm really I've

asked some people and I've confirmed that's the

Mosca mention that in surgeries when are when they are

in the surgery that's a place is a thing is a hermetic

and totally clean and that's a time in those have taken on those are

in the moscas. And all they're how, how? No, there was a form

in the that was there. And I have said, some people, that has

been a direct, me said, when me has been that the person falleces.

So, no, no, for more that's you know, you know, the person

will be a person, will be a person and a problem. It's something,

but it's not, There are stories in internet and I put to investigate and there are many people in the world that has passed this situation of the

Mosca. And also is something that's where is this this bitch, no? Exactly. It's an

an aviso, it's a prelude. Those are the mysteries that sometimes we're talking to talk to, well,

a title personal, I'm the fortune I'm imagine that you also, to be, with,

with, with, with stories so, that not easy assimilar

and not it's so easy to think but to do you

do that I are not attractive because you having

this know then you think you do I

do I what what it has that I

know that I know the possible I I

think I have said I said even even

to our program has to have to have to have a utility has

a function that not only only entertains but in a minute

to a message and then I think that maybe the

people need that you know I don't have studied tantatology but

I recommend to the people I have read but not

not not like material in si but I have

read different bibliography no And I those people that say that they have

that they're that they're that they they're not to say they're oh, this man will be

to do you or they're in the car of calaver no? So they're like like

like a skeleton and these people are too because not they can't

get to you know I don't I don't I don't I don't I'm how it's

this circumstance, but they've been. I always I recommend you know, you know, try to

study a natology. For what? Because if you know that's what most that's what most that

they're that's what I'm to say, is that I know, I'm going to say,

and I don't know. And I'm you're going to you'd say to you're going to do you

get to get to surprise? No, well, I don't not I would say

for what I think he I'm but if could do you

would do you might let let me some let's let

give his good to his his his you

you let's get the opportunity and look I

that I that I that I think of

the of the Bible and sometimes the Bible

we put predicament to me they put predicament

even with people of the same congregation to where assist I know, then they're

they're they're to get to work in this no? Sure. But

that's no you can't negar that exists no you can you

I think to the people but I'm tantatology and try to

to talk words that they give alliant to the

people that they're a piece oh well I

you recommend would like you'd like you do your brother, do you do your

father, with your mom, if they were some those people, you know, you know,

you know, you do you lavate the hands and talk with them and do you

let us liberate of that because at the most that's one of the

functions that people could be in munitions. Oh, what good form

to to have ever I've never thought and it is certain

for my formation when I have been situations in those I'm in the

person that you know that in a situation in a situation

to be a to get a better to get a better or a term of

my approach is natural is to know how about what

words to say what something omit for where

how to talk to do But, of a repent that's

me is insensible or me quits a empathy to know that the

lot of the person not have been a area and for you is an

area totally that that aterra and I know people

as as you know, that that in the moment in the

in the time in the other person some, I've not I

have talked someone that may have present the

murder, but there are people that when they're saying, this person is a very bad. So,

although not the apparent, is it's a little time, terminate in the hospital or or something. It's not because

they say, it's what the other person is feeling, or perceiving something. How exactly who knows how

works? And so, and much are cases of people that are to play to dones.

Some things that were that the people just that the And what interesting promote that study in tantatology?

What interesting, what grand tool? And it's true, for the people that the panatology

you make a perspective of the murder totally different to the that you, we'd, and you

make a second to that you that's a way in that you not, not,

not, think it's unwhet to passitties to and the implications that

has but also you've been sensible with with the person that's living and you're to give the other things

to do the thing. I'm, I'm really, I've been never thought never said,

I'm in frasco in that I'm in storytelling and of you're just talking with people who are living

situations of this type and grand great a great thing, and that's good

good idea. Duda for what you've to say to say, a me me has

a time a stories of exorcism. A shock very very strong. I've opened the

mind to perspectives that I've never had been about I've been doing

to be in time to the time to the stories that wrote. And in these

stories, there's a special that me really a attention.

During much time, people people that are people people

that are people, say, say, let's people, that to

some people that had some type of capacity, those they were a person that

was a don't divino or like a don't diabolical, but no there was a point of intermedio.

And I always have the question. I said, I'm just there's two or

there are cases and a mort mention a one that me I'm

really a really that he said, I'm had to know to know

to know to those don't and powers are definitely of spirits

malevulos directly of demonious and have done some type of pact and I've tried with them they're in a

power sobary human and they've been doing their handied their arm and have interchambeated people to

change of that and the demon is because they they're just they're they're but he's

also that also people that's not the case people who are people who are people who

there's there's there mention of some some these these these

they're they're they're they're always to get to And if

were a person that of a good person that they were a money, they were

their but these people, not used any different any different and they're not,

and he said, I'm I'm going to one of them and she's a don't that has been

my family has a much, and is my his abo my and it

and it and it and it makes that he's not to be to be my

one of the third or case, and Amor confirmed, where a person who gave a

money, and he was the only billet that was in the ballse, and no view the denomination when he was

he said, and when he had been me fixed it before, but at the final he did, she was

she took, at the time to talk of the billet, and he says, you know, you know,

and as a medical, not you've been to revisit. If not you do you're going to move to move,

then let's revisit and he'll and he's and he's a person that's a lot of this. And Amor

he says, be and revisate the person no, he did it with a no longer, and he

he's not that's that all of that all right. So, so that she's so much,

and she's when she she's when he's, I don't do a letter of cartes,

no, I don't do nothing to know, I did that when I know the

person I can't I can't see something, I can't see what they I can't

I can have that perception that the other no. And with the people that are

good with me, I'm good. But also I've know that there's

something that when someone is mal and he does it a mal, he

and he and that's where that has talked in the experiences

that's that's heard that you have been of these people with these

people with these type of some I'm has talked various

times and believe that is a problem in the that are in

these people these perceptions is a problem because they

think they have the feeling that they to

perjudic to someone if they they're there there

there a great problem a, a, a, a different

of what we're able to, no, if we're that capacity to maldecy voluntary or involuntarily,

what much do I'm to do my myself, as I'm, how far are my convictions,

because in best of maldecy, it's certain, that you can't be a

so, so, so, if I, if that person, you bend, you

regress to the health, you regress to the life, you a good to be

a person to be I'm I've been many times that's in a

very conflict because it's a capacity that we are that they

didn't that they were they were with that

that that that that we we don't we

what you do to that that where you're going to get with that capacity? Is it to serve

of something or not serve to nothing? And figgat that I was listening to talk and reflection about some that's about some occasion me

talked about. Talves not it's the case of what you mentioned. I'm, I'm going to a groujo

without saying he he was about he was going that was that had had been the

job, that my my husband me and that he's my

little, he knew my he's he's a great a

man, I don't see you know, you know, so you that so like,

so so we're we're an angel of the guard,

an angel that he he he he when

you when you don't when you that you can that

he does that I'm It's It's a There's That's

For that's For that Satanas Well, also Among his Greats

Is that The accuser Is the Chismos The guy And he He says Oh,

Is that He, The Lord, Help me For favor And he

is the He's the He's He's He's He's He's He's a

He's a He's a He's a He's Sobrina, why not he said when rob he

he was there's always on the little bit of some little he's got when he he said,

that's that they're that they're that they're that they're so this this theory of that I

you talk that when I was so I made much sense and it doesn't

to be a thing oh no he's oh no no no no

no he's not to not no doesn't make person,

what does a person, that's about the people who are the

people who can't know you can't say that he's he's

he there's a voice that maybe he doesn't he

is he he's he's he's he's he's he's more

that he's more that he he's he's he he

he's he is infiel he not that could exist also be

there's a possibility not I'm not I'm my theory this is my theory that someone me explained

that I'm I've heard to hear I'm going to and I did it because I said it's

probable it's probably it's probably okay that that that you you say

you say you let have seen I've seen in a certain related with

investigators that have been people people very serious in this

camp that has been in the time of possession and have gotten that's

these entities those demons their time of the time of life is totally distinct

to the I'm to have clear, they're they're they're not some

people and religious are people more more than scientific and from there

have done have done because these indagations and to the point

that have said they're like they're like the to get to understand perfectly the human and

know how affect it. And definitively, the conocement occult is something that they're managing. So, if we're talking about, if we're talking about the amor that one of the details that you're going to be

a position that can be a position real is the knowledge occult. When it begins to say things that that's that person and no

there's any way for that has been that's part of that the knowledge of

but also it's part of the attributes that these these these different to

those and they have done and there is a story that me has a

reason in this she she not not not not even

any type of religion and they had any any

any any that of that. What is that their family, a new family, a new house

in the that was the dwean was a woman, and she had all the different, but they didn't

have a broker, or was a duke or was a guy, but they were so, they'd be because from the

day in the day in the place, they're going to get to occur to things and they

can be voices in the house, they're they're Rewos, the people are in mal-humor.

There's a sensation of presences. And a day that's in a remodelation in the patio, it's a

top of the patio and like a little bit more, because they're putting an assador, and they top

a pentagrama and a lot of symbols, things and the people that was doing the

work, let's we're, we're not to do you, we're going to know, then we're

they're doing, they're they're not, and put a place in a place in the

and a past a lot of a lot of it's a thing, there's a lot that's

a family and is that the her man a little, that was a

little a child, she when we're to learn that this when we're when we're

not going to that's so much that's like to make to get to the internet, and all the

family said, where he's where's the information of the

tarot of she, I don't with nobody of that's, nobody in the family believe in

that's not a program of that's that's that's a lot of that's

really, really he really, the future to the people, and the people

and the people who they're people, total that's a year, she

she has a time, she's to do to get to to get to a good

to get good to do and a day and a year and he

said, I don't want but no they're that I do they the one of the

other one of he says no he's he apart never never you never to ask you

never you're but you know you're just about you're you're where you do that

you're you said and he said he confiese this and this story is

very very very very very and the person that me

he he passed things there there and the her

the she he comment I never I never I mean, because there was

a voice that was said to do. And I went to the cards. And when I was in front of the people, there are voices that they say,

I just I just listen. I'll just pay attention in what is going to not in the barrage. That's no, me interest.

I don't know. The problem is that I, every time they're in a way more aggressive, me say

things more horrible and even after I just that I'm not going to do this, and now me Well, a pesadilla

spantosa, but if the information occulted was in a voice, that apparently for many

data that this person, was a person, was a case of that was that was in

that house. But if it was that it was there's part of what they're in the future.

Sure. We know we know we're that the devil not can be in

two parts at the time. For that is that uses all the legions

the legions the demons that has the demonies and for for that we're we're atososos right right right

there's there can be a battle spiritual and we don't we don't know but it's a reality well I think

firmly in that that exists and I think firmly in that that so the only that can know all

is God obviously this talking in under my perspective with the way that I see the

and the only that he know all he knows all is he's he that is difficult that when the people say

it's a diablo no it's a person you're a demonio that's so is a

but the diablo the mismissim diablo satanus lucifer no

no I no I think it's very complicated because the damage that he is in other levels.

He's he's to affect to a major number of people, that's that's

the great mandatarios, that's the presidentes, that's who are directors of the

companies that have been with all the planet and that in some moment that's

whatever that's that they do you to affect a much population. Well,

there so, but there in it's I think who us attack Soldado raso

obviously is my point of view of view but no no not he says it's something so are so

they're powerful people people with a great capacity are different to us so so it's

not is minimis but more well is to give us to that not because not

because not because not because not she that wewe a suffre or is less

malo It's very Malo, what can occurring. Look at you that you're that you have been

I've been the experience to be a sometimes I was to say the fortune no, but no

it's a experience various times when we visited casas with Juan Ramon

various times when I took a personia because I was the person

I was the encargated so I was I was in first file, no, those testimonies.

And I'm I'm a conclusion of the conclusion that if is impactant, it's impressive. A lot of the people

like, what is the more is the more than the position? But the reality is that you,

yeah when you see one, yeah the other are the other things the

circumstances of why he's got to the position and it can be

very different. but the manifestation in the human is very semifant I'm

I got to many times various times even in some occasion standing I in the

church for there a person he manifested it's a spirit manifesto no

so that so he should be number a a spirit manifest and

in the in the church a sometimes you say no it's

not it's that in the in the church and in any other other other place

obviously the advantage for someone that's a benefit in the church is that there

there are people who there are there if it's to be your house oh

well that your your mom your your father, your mom to

they can help in this moment to to get to

that to get to and The gesticulation is a important, the look, the

mirro, I don't see if you've been to a person to be no, it's impressive

you, they're they're looking with so much you know, you're seeing that

you're being a beastia, the eyes, you know, that's the eye,

it's, so, you know, that's so, that's that's that's invasive

to your person. For So that they're saying that no evitest you to make contact visual with your eyes, with the eyes of a posseid. Because it's a través

of there, precisely, that penetran as your mind. So, the form in that it's inflame the trachea, it's made a ball like enormous,

has to count that he's a little bit of a roadilla. What most me impacted to me was when they're talking, that they hear in

many voices at the same time that's that you don't get a grab

so you get a gravado see you get a that you're in this type of those voices there

there are a technique of monghes tibetano in those can move like two types of

the two two parts and they make to do two tones at the

but is something or you're about about something totally

different No, could be something but multiplied for 5 or 10

or is all the cords like in those tones that you can

use not I see exactly what is the process in the organism what

what I can say is that is a voice profound and

you you you you you you do you

a or a a tube another tube and other

cartulina various at the same time and you can't be different the voice, it's like a with a resonantia extra.

So, so it's it's not. And the better is when they're saying a maldita,

or so what, and what frequently they're often they're my, she's my.

And I when they're to say that, it's that, there's there,

there, there, there, there, a demonio that's operating, or various

demonios that are operating. Many times she said she me let

get her and she's my and they're some moments very complicated when you're

like a spectator obviously when I never I've done a liberation

but I think that the people that are doing a liberation also

also have a very a emotional a a great

a spiritual because if if who who or the exorcism

is a person that has a collar that they're very much a lot of a lot of so, at the entry,

not even to even try to do a liberation if it's someone that's

someone who is someone that is infiel or is someone that every

every that can do you can do it's is to say, if you require

of a conduct intachable to be to make to do that's because we

mentioned we know that's a lot of those demons that you are doing and know what

did you do you know what did you know what you know what you know to get to

where you can't the point of the point of the point you to you can

you can be the time you The demons also know, he is a trance, he, when

he when he was a young, he when he was a young he was, then so if you have been there

something, and you're to do that you're a liberation, it's very, very dangerous.

Because, well, it's the Bible, that when the demonio is exulzated, he's

to give a way to a world, and when you go, and see that the house

is a that's a particular, it's a a person

when we that the house is a back he

and he and six six more demons of

those that were those they were of those

they were that this person that person that

was a more and what was what he

and what says that the case that you

put that I say, I'm going to put a diet because I want to be my my piece ideal,

80, 70, 90, the kilos that's your your personal, no, no,

you know, you can't, oh, I'm, I'm, I'm going to eat pizza, yeah,

I'm going, papa, papa, what is what is an, is an example, right?

What is what is the rebut, that's result to be a better, because

no mantuvist the discipline, no mantubist the rigor in

your alimentation, well, at the level spiritual occurs something

when you are not, when one person has been a person has been despojah, of demonies,

and this person that said, and she only has for complete of all that way

that you need to to be to be un-barrarer and you do you, if you

with that discipline, you're, you're great because now there's the conocimient

previous of you to you you're going to get to be and you never you never you

do it you know more well take it take it something something and so

you know you know you know you the same so it with the things

you know you you know you know you did a mal and you it affected

it's you curates, you've given your treatment, you're going to

get to the problem and other again, you're to be to be in tapartes

and you do you get to do you get to do you do the things that

can't and it and it's and it's a question

of the position of the part it's a point apart. I'm a

very very serious I I see that, in fact, many people say, oh, when

you go to go to a position, me, you know, I'm going to never you never you'd because I

think you respect, because I'm not, I'm going to do you know what you are you don't know

it's a show, it's it's tremendous, it's more, there have been people that are

doing the liberation, a little a little, no, that the mom, that she's

she's the mom she's not they're doing the exorcism of the the little you know,

you know, is that the mom is a sotta. The little bit to be a and then

to get to get a impactant. All this is impactant and you do it because

unfortunately I was it's it's a very, it's really. It's he's a

man. And they're they're to get a mom and it's the other

person. It's that the exorciista is doing bad the things, but the people that

were there had been not had been able that person not never had had been that's

because we'll come to the same, if you you try's a don't know

for you you do you are you are you are some,

so various circumstances that I'm I'm don't get but

interesting but there there there there things that

not just I'm, I'm going to in the program because a lot of the

people need to hear the people need and let's let's be and then not necessarily is a

fact it's a fact it's a discharcy fiftate that rumbo to the

but I'm to ask to you I'm to ask this time there

there was a American that's nefarious and this movie nefarious

I'm that he started many problems because people who were to have to

have been to have been the person I vented the movie because I said what I'm that's strange

that's that's that's that's that's the film it's but

it's a movie it's a teleological and and not I'm

not a screamers really is a dialogue in the that's a

person he's a question to what you do you functions you have.

So, it's something like if reveled a plan of these entities and they're

very little and they're things like those who you're saying, you know, they're

important to things as things as when you you're you're you're a little

you and you see, and you know, and it's where we we're,

we're to mark our territory, to to romper the relation that you had to

the old, to romper the relation that you had with the

we don't we don't we're going to we're going to the time in the you're in

a basis for us on a source in the we're a question.

The doubt is, I know, I know this view or this perspective that you have

in the program that you that really is a part of entertainment but

you're you're doing something for the person and that's apart

firm in your faith. The doubt is not you have

to be a some type, because I not, I don't know it, but if I intend to generate this, more,

for that they do you? Yes. Yes. Many times. But I, I confi

in that there a plan, we say in these days, I'm I'm, one knows

what are the plans of God, but I I don't like I think me in his

plans. It's what he want to give, if he want to give moments

difficult, then we want to let me try my faith, we're to frontals,

if we want to give a bonanza, I want to the God, I, do you

accept, or not, I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, but you can't

be a good, but there are things that's been, and that has been my conviction

always, and when me have made made comments, like, of malditions, like,

of amazas, I'm just simply and simply, I just give the thanks for your point of

your opinion, that you go well in what they can, but I'm not

I'm, I'm feel that I'm so I think there something that

always me accompany and for that no, no, no,

no, I'm don't know I'm no busk problems, but also I

can't avoid. So, so I do, to demonstrate and if me will

happen something, so what is God. If no me going to happen

nothing, then, then, oh, oh, that's that's that's

so far, the that's my conviction. is the parsimony of the person

in presence of it not? And not me I think in a saint

and then I'm so that they're that's that's that's that's

I mean I'm like I know from there unfortunately not are much

so fortunately are unfortunately are many more more we've we've

we've we we've we we've not done very well, we've

understood what is our role our role. If we're we're doing the relato that they're

what they're to say, a favor in contra, that's the of that the program because if

not were that so, then and it were nothing more of the things that I think

then then I'm in a program Christian we're we're in a

question? And that that's the program Christian who who will be

Maybe, no, that's Christ. That's the cremating. And not is my intention and it's my finality. What he is that, as like one offers respect,

then can one solicit to the most minimum respect of that, ah, is that he always he's always

he's with God. Well, no is a thing. It's something great. If you do

what you want that is that what me said this person me he

he he he he he he he he

he of in my case in my case, assume I'm

what God and the because for that is

God and he is omnipotent he he he he

he he he he he no no no

no no no I do say it even

no much less because I think that maybe that's that's it's a lot to make more public,

his creencia, your conviction because if we had we'd have been many speculations so I as I knew

I knew who was who was he I knew of his creencers then so it's

so me made a bad that that that that

that net, nothing to nothing to nothing to do you know, I've got to say and

I need to ask you need to ask a lot that Juan Ramon was Santer and that

and that's that's really or not or not or or some time so

but then no no nothing to be nothing in the in the

absolute no I don't I don't I'm I'm a

person of of faith yeah is true that he was a Catholic

was a Catholic his family was a Catholic his his his

his father Catholic also nothing nothing I was not to

not I'm not not not a person that was

a person that but was a person that had a

person that was there no titobe he and he

never he never what I comment is that I've been about it for that the people

see that that's like you mention as you know, then it's a minute. And then I

say, I said, no, if I was sure, because I did it did,

well, you can't say what you want, and to that it's real, then to there's a

great difference, no, I don't, I know, I know, I know professional and

a level personal to go to eat to your house even to get to get to get a

yeah no simply no that's all that's all that's also recently

recently I found on YouTube me appeared a video suggested

the real murder of John Ramon in a car chocated you

say you this this too I don't who I know that's that's

more more than these people that do do for views, for rating,

or the people that they're because because, like he no, no,

he can't defend. And as we don't, we're not we're not to not about the

thing because well, so, that's a peace. It's what we're we're always

we're just we're that's in peace. So, yeah, that's he said,

I'm saying, I'm correct to that, that, he has died

he's not he can't depend, he can't say nothing, but if there are

people who have people have been an interest in what they're saying. I reiterate, we're saying,

we're having had had got that ancl for to, but, sub-

levels of rating, of the followers, and no, no, is the case.

No, it's the case. They've repeated various times because every year

we record our fallaciment no every we do we do we do

we're we're we're yeah and and well we're

we're we're we're but the people need you know

because if no those videos not they didn't not many

those videos would be they're not for example

are what I do that I'm I'm a autochok and

the the real death of Juan Ramon. I said, I'm a bollah

because nothing to have a matter. And with many of views, you say

how is possible? And we we're we're doing, the actually the

videos of the anniversaries of the courtosos of Juan, there are we

we're not they're not they're more the the the thing but

so we we're so we we're so much you I thank you much that

you're doing I'm looking I'm looking and I don't I don't want to say that only are the thing you know

because this what you're doing I'm saying I don't I'm going to I'm saying that you're saying that

every year they're not me I'm not I'm I'm looking because I'm my good

that's very the legendas but I'm really to know what really what's really what happened

and that that convivio with him during the time years, that's he's

a lot of him, he's, that's the fact that's the fact that that's

that's listening, for that all you are all people, they're to do you

when they're when they do you want them to this video, that's

what's what's what's that a person that who's misnientient

all all those questions that's that's that's all long

the time just just to not just myth, about the myth,

no. And, and thanks, thanks, thank you. I don't to keep it

more time because we have been done, I'm going to thank you, I'm in your own

your conviction. Thank you do, I'm a title personal, I think is something that's a

way. Independently, the virality, that is another thing, but in

the people who don't know to be going to be way, and at

final, this phenomenon, this during many years. And is that, even if you say,

the truth, those legends are you know, I think a person, it's not a person,

and it's the things, it's that the things, so I'm, so I'm very, the time that did you,

honesty, your relatos, and, well, very, very, very, very, so,

no, I'm very to be to be a time, and I'm a time, and I'm

a chance, and I'm a chance, and say, and we'll just say, because it's a little common to find

people that can talk with you without without without to throw mythos, what they

were they were to say, I say, I say, I'm not I'm sure of what I

do you do, to generate rating, because at what I do you do, no,

is what they're they're no, so, no, there you go, what I

think, and what I have managed. So I thank you thank you this this aperture

and that we're going and we're going on together, as a job, of the

work, pardon, of the work in these things, that sometimes are a

sometimes are quite, I hope that also, I'm, I'm, I'm

the opportunity, for this interview is dedicated to you, to your canals,

and to public, that also a day they'll get a little bit of a little bit a little bit of you know,

in all the rest we're going to find out of your internet, in Instagram, in all is a medoteca only on YouTube

is a medoteca MX but MEDoteca at the fin there we can find and we'll just we can't

make a union as a reitero as as the labors in these labors to talk

with the good, with good good, and I'm doing this episode like you, because me

me, me, it's a talk about a talk about a lot of there's good

stories, but also I think that's talking the things with the most important.

One once said this, I want this I want to time, and that's

good and that you have done