HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - La Ropa Bendita le Quemaba | Sergio de @EmisionesPodcast | Ep096

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

Existen demonios que enferman a la persona y existen enfermedades que aparecen demonios. El día les presentamos el episodio 096 con la colaboración de el Buen Checo de @EmisionesPodcast y con este video concluimos la saga de 3 videos con nuestros queridos amigos de emisiones. Les contaremos acerca de enfermedades mentales que parecen demonios, demonios que parecen enfermedades, fenómenos paranormales y problemas al diagnosticar un suceso paranormal. Y muchas historias interesantes y otras muy aterradores. Si llegaste hasta aquí comenta, ¿cuál fue el primer episodio con el que conociste el podcast? y te mandaré un saludo.

Welcome to Family Nocturna to this new episode of Let Me Too It's The Day of We need of today, we're going to episode We're very special, because we're in the second of three videos. Ah, no, this is the third of the three videos of missions podcast. With the good Checo.

Checo, my brother, how are you? What's to have you here? No, no. The gusto is my, carna. The net, Narroarer, it's a good to be here. A whole to all your community of the community of Missions and also

to all the community of missions that's here of chismosona and to be what we're we're going to talk to talk the day of

the day of the day of the fact I'm very very emotional very emotional that's that's

that's also a whole the community of the community of missions you know for me

for me for a first that we've done the opportunity to talk with each

one has been a experience that I have made a experience super atipic

because it's in a rhythm in a form very distinct and

I thank you I'm doing that so I'm done the time so we're doing we're sure we

oh yeah okay we're okay we're we're going to talk about a psychology questions spiritual

and the contrasts that there are between these two I think we we're there are

some those things that occur in those phenomena but but also

also within the certain certain those and that sometimes

they're they're they're they're they're where that it's interesting, but

tell me, porfas, Chego, what was of what you top? What you got to get more

attention in this investigation? Well, obviously what's the light first of

the thing of the famous schizophrenia, that many times we've used as a

excuse a of explanations of phenomena paranormal or vice versa. A other that the

phenomenon not just not just a exquisof a actually I'm

I remember I've investigated a few years about this a and of the

history, no? I mean, I've seen, the, how, from the

antiqued and even the age media and all this, you know, they were about, but,

but, rites, that were exorcisms, et cetera, that now now, with a

little a lup more more more, we're, but, determine,

a of a tristorn mental, not of a, this, of a,

this, of a person or of a thing of spiritual, but, you know,

but I'm that you're starting to you're talking, you know, that mention this to,

that's that of the way, they're, I'm in the man. Yeah.

I'm, I'm, I'm, let, let, sure, clear, yeah,

is, is that there is that there there's, there there's, there's that in

many of the processes that have to be with questions paranormal is super recommended

for not to say that is priority that is to do you a person to be a

person that you're to be a a psychiatrist to discard those

areas because very probably probably has has been to be

with that so, Tantto if really is really is

really something because from cases that I've known people that have

had been a lot of the emotions and they're in a important and a

me I'm clear that the day of today, the people don't have the

idea of how they don't have that is that that that that

that that one was a person, he was a vehicle and

he gets a car, I'm the car, he's he's

the matter of idea. And then then it a type

and he said, you know, I'm to repair and he says, no,

so it's my car. And he says, but I do you do you know so it.

So, resulta that the person was was Henry Ford and he had made

the design of the caros. Is that real? Fickate that I heard.

I've heard it. I've for example in the that not for being in

the vehicle and to manage it 20 years you become you

of so. And in the the the has been in the

and develop you have a expert in how it's a really a

thing of the problematics both and health and intellectuals

psychological because the manhue of the way to be clear

in all the levels that is something that's a very

that I can say ryan the ridicul more ran

in the alarm that that neither not that not

so taking in account as that preamble Oh, well, and that the people

think that is it is they're doing, they're that is a problematic enormous. Because, creer that you are you're doing,

and reallyarily not start it is two problems. First, to see that there's that really there's an error in the manho

and second, to teach a manho that what is what you're doing it. So, the point is

that first I recommender and to any type phenomenon paranormal. First, be a

psychologist and psychiatra, of preference that the psychologist and psychiatr have a profile a little bit of questions spiritual. Not totally carried to things

spiritual, but a little a part of the opportunity to make a good revision. And then you'll be a

solution, yeah in the marco spiritual. Well, why are the man? To the the tematica,

I've talked with the people, with the family nocturn and with you,

one of the things that that's that my attention, not in a morbosos

but in a sense fascinating and a disconcertant is the thing of the possessions.

In the possessions, we're normally we're basing in the films of possessions. And so if

I'm about to positions, to your head can be the image of Emily Rose, can be

the image of the chick of the exorcist, can be images of a in the

fiend of films, has been the of the exorcist of the exorcist of the Papa, etc.

No. Well, but the reality is that the stories are quite more complex than what we're

in the end of the and the many. Much. Yeah, because the part that

that's, that's, that's, that's the more to the more than the expressions or manifestations

manifestations extraordinary of the demons. But those, the exorcists, in the quantity of

the people, they say, they're present in of the 1%. So,

of the 100 that gets only the 1% is possession, and only of that 1% 1% of 1% of there,

you have those manifestations is very little. But what is the most of the majority is

that after the possessions, normally there are to get therapy or with the possession,

they have to get therapy the person. Because in some, the entity that

is there is a many similar to some type of a problem but in other

cases the entity, the only that's doing is the thing is so difficult

to identify to identify to do do you, to do exactly, but not because I have

a problem, so it means that it means that there's there's

a position, it's that there's a sometimes is one of both together, but

it's a little, a a little for there. Figate that in what of what

I'm doing and all this, there were many examples of people that their families

not have the people don't have the resources to solve a transor like this you know

is schizophrenia psychosis all these that's that of these that are more alarmants

and can be even be even are and they for encer to

the familyaries not these those encirran in houses, in Cajunnes,

in terrains. And, and I, I'm, I remember of a case of a child, of a

woman, more well, that I had been in a lot. And I said, we're going to get to

get to talk to talk to the narrator. And my surprise was that I'm trying

I'm that I'm a lot of this. Wow, a be. So, is that,

is that really, and see that I keep it I think thinking, okay,

a little these families, then they're that their people are

some some real a realtor mental like these, of the hallucinations, of the

voice, of being to be to be a little or malvado. And resulta

that in essence yeah, but the interesting, is that is that there's

there cultures orientals that also they're and the families

decide resolve it incerning to his familyers, no? And, and this

case that I thought that I thought he was a single that was a lot of that's something that's a very commonly.

And it's me makes terrible, no? It's, because if many times, this is this

I'm also that I'm also, that I'm commemorate to the people to the person with syndrome

of down, that they about, of what you have to put your two casetine,

that are like not par like to this symbolize symbolize this

this tristor etc and we we're talking of this that ultimately

has been more concience about the different of the different states mental

that can have certain people and that that's that's things that the

thing passed because we've we've we went to a

there was a there was a there me is he

has been parents that have been with this, he has with children of Down

and how is, how is the difficult to live with this and I know,

I mean, I'm, and I think, wow, how that's a problem

mental or a syndrome like this is mal attended because

not because the person is inherently aggressive or naturally

aggressive for your condition, but really the I'm really the I'm there's

there's people because they're a verguyen or those or those or those or they're they're doing

to the society? How do you will be to be a person with those conditions

of life? And, yeah me that person no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no person to a person to schizophrenia

or psychosis or, or, this, or, or, or, syndrome

a, but, but a person aylylida isolated, of that that

manner. It can't have tendencies agressive. I mean the attention that's a result that

it's really because there's not people who have been the government to this, even the same superstition.

Of course, I've got the one of a this, a periodista that, that associate directly

like these acts of people that are isling or that segregan or that stigmatizing

to persons with transornos saying it's, resulta that in a statistic in an investigation

that is more probable that this pass in cultures or in societies where the culture is very poor,

no, so, of ignorance, in, in, in, in, in, situations

very, of poverty extreme, etc., is where more exists the tendency of that

if if someone appears different to the other, is cataloged directly

as a person possessa. well, no, I see, it's a very interesting. And,

in the same note, he's a little about a book, of a father, in a a sastardote,

in where he he's, directly, and you'll read textually, no, what he says, he says,

he says, he says, he's a general, no, that's a name is in English,

but here so I'll let's, so I'll try to, no, so, what,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, about the world spiritual, no? So, then he's a little bit, says, a other than a lot of the people interned in the hospitals psychiatrics, suffer

of attacks demoniacos in the other than problems of health mental. The same sacerdote says, that's a tonteria. If you the devil, no, we tend to all, especially to our, uh, our points devils, the people

that every day visit them in our unidad of health mental, they're in problems mental and emotional reales. And that's what

it's really interesting. At a repent, these declarations of the sacerdotes and people

that they're against these creencers, like they want to like that they're like, that's a thing,

it's very interesting, and I'm really of so. But now that you you're

that of you're that there there's there's there that's that's

that's that's the person, also it's It's a something that can be.

Look, there's that's a very interesting this thematic, because I am very

very of the mind, I'm not the definitions, I don't like the definitions, I'm

like, I do you, you know, you know, you're and then you're a definition

specific of one thing, no you know, you know, any other other

you, you know, and it doesn't form a part of that that,

I'm more the description. A where I go with

all this. when we're a church or the Catholic or the sacerdote presupponem

or we think that's a person that is a very spiritual. So it's that's the reality

is that not necessarily is so and not necessarily have the knowledge or those

of psychology or those of theology or those of demonology now can't have the

knowledge but maybe not the practice or the experience So, as presuppone

something, all supponer that one there's, this, I've got to enterer in this investigation,

there's exorcists, atheists, there are exorcists that no think that the devil. I'm the movie of the

Rito. Andal yeah, and that's when when when it when it's the question

of the design of the medicine, of the psychiatry, we're we're talking of the

40, 50, 60, 70s, that's, that's impact to a level

world. The mark of the people, the market to say, then many of the things that

we're in those things, can be those things, that was just the what you're that's,

that's that's that's so that many people, and it that they mark them,

and this include the church Catholic, because many of those are that they're

that they're that they have been a certain a creence spiritual. It's a moment

in the all you all all psychology and generated a type of religion atheist. But that's

in all the spirits. So, even they were in certain ways, were in a certain way, and this genera,

although it was in form external, or so it were the public, and they were the people who were a entity, demoniac or spiritual,

benevolal, a god, a devil. And there were who were people that are, those are those are

some figures retorical of things that we didn't in the past. But at

day of today, we're talking of the psychology of the person human and the

problem, and the questions moral. Puntus and it is the thing.

What is the point? The point is that in this type of the both

are the question. And, of a point, for a question, one needs to

have the reason, because if no, the other it does the disminue

the category that has, it's a or it's or it's defiant

much to the point of a moment they're to get a a lot of what's going to

and then it's a me for that the figure of the father of and the

father they're they're they're they're because they are people

more more being of people people that's people that

people that not people I'm a other psychiatrist

that he he was he was a client and say understand that we

know it and I'm I'm going to and I'm going to the case and I understand that if there's

there's that I'm that I'm like I'm like I'm because why occur this?

No, it's for a mal diagnostico is because when you're a expert to

a expert, but a expert, not an expert of two years of

experience, a expert of 20 years that is eminence in the

theme you analyze with all the tests that there without, let us put a per in

in the money, he uses all the examines, no, say, the same,

and all the questions of technology that has more, a group of colleagues and all

to get to the conclusion of, we don't we know, they're

they're on other. Occurre the what they do they do they

do they're not, we don't we don't we don't we don't we

the details of the details of what is going to but what they do you have an explanation because the problematics psychologicals

have a genesis and where no exist this which there's where no there's what you're so what's what's that

is what you don't you do you're there's there's there are things in special that are the

that are that I'm that I'm that I'm way that is that is that is very difficult because

that no there's not there's a that exists in torno this. Are there. The first the sansonism.

There's a person's the person's the people who understand and they're a person really that's a

not that's a person that's a person that's that's in in the muscles, for so say to say it's

a man that's a person who's a little seven and those It's like if were

monos of paper. So, there's talking about of other thing diametral

and different. I don't go, not with the musculature or with the possibilities or using

in their maximum capacity not could do that's and the other person for the person,

for the person, and there's little, and there's many little and blan-iruchos flakitos

that and the person comes and that is like, that's

that's strange. And so, So, especially that in the cases, of these

that's mentioned, is that, I mean, I mean, I know, I don't, I think

be a sceptic, no? But, like you, too, I'm, I'm very very analytical

with these things, and what about the sansonism, this, more, more than what,

the, of these possibilities physical, to be to be this extra-human,

and so, I'm not sure, but I think have been investigations about these effects,

for example, the adrenaline and all these things that exist. But, oh, here I think

the asterisk that exists between this argument that you're doing, is that many of those we're talking,

those people are, those people are those people, apart of that are apart of that are the mass

muscular, for more that that you're more that tensed, thanks a chisical in the brain is

the little bit is a little bit he's not vomiting all the day I mean that's what I think is what I

know the the attention of the sense of the force inhuman that what you're

that's exactly it's a exactly it's a part it's very important number one

no auto diagnostics or not you don't do you not you're not you're

not you sirio not not not to because because not is that if it

has been one of these things then the person to be a person not. For this he's a expert,

because it's a group of a bunch of things that you have years of experience because not

just having read the book and have given contact with people that have many

of things and that is what is what you do you do you have been doing something

you know you know you a form of perception in the that with certain

details you you can't even intuir for where the problem. For things

that says for how it's a way, for how move the eyes, for how they're the

lapis, for how you the poppillar, how is the cabo, et cetera, for how you can't

the routine, how arm his platticas. Some something that never someone has never had been

a instruction and maybe, you can't be able, but the things that can't be a simple view,

the point is that the sansonism not more is a detail. When you adder to that

it's a lot of attention and it's a more difficult to explain to get a exiglossia.

That the senoglossi that's a conunding with the glossolalia. The glossolalia is a person that's invent a word and

of a mother, that's a Marker Walker. It was it was obvious that what was doing was

a question mediaica and that He, I'm going to those words that had to be with this

to do you am, me amas that after you do you know an show comical, it's a question mediatical.

It's a show comical, in serious. Yes, she said, she, he said, he exploded,

and he exploded her moment. She, she had a a trostorn. No, no,

but that is that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, that is, you're inventing

or so, you start things that can't, okay, okay, no, is necessarily

a but the glossolalia is is to say, things that don't have said, then someone can get, d'em.

I'm right right I'm trying to some different in a little a little more a person, no, is that you interrupied in

the three things these that's that's the processos and me would like to retomar that's, but it's

like a point for the people that you're just just a most, we're just to turn right

to do some things that are not are very commones but if you could be

to identify and a this chica could be in some of these

trotons. Obviously, what I'm so, I don't see if it's like a like a

technical vocal or something, no? The glosolalia? How, how does it? Any person,

there's that there's that's that's a person, I don't know, many, many people

that are very observatorers, get in a moment in that they're in a way to learn

to inventing their own their idea of the F, and you you have many

examples, but someone can get to say, tick, tick, marik. And from the day you're saying, tick, tick,

mack, tick, mack, and gick, and yeah, invento his own own idea, but that not means

that's a word, it's a problem, don't know, and that's a problem, it's someone making the shistosos,

but that's the glossolalia. So, is saying things that not come in with sense, no,

they're just altering certain rhythms, is it's metying there some some

some words and it's it's a way that it doesn't know, that's that's trying to

communicate and to communicate and to say it just doing the way, but they know what he's doing but in the

xenoglosia there are cases. There's a case of the father Fortea. He's

with a person of 53 years, a man yeah major, no, he didn't

any studio, this person studied just a more the primary

and in the moment in the they're to do the exorcism, the person starts to

talk in perfect Latin. And the father I think he he said he he'll be in Greek and he he's a

respond in perfect Greek. And then he starts to speak to speak in the language and he says,

about the language and he starts in the other language. Not they were in words,

it was perfectly the manh of a language of the person never had never had been

any no of that and it he was a way, and it was a

kind of occurred there's there are the cases that's very

very not the the conglosia the word I'm

the I'm the question and for me a sign

important is when when the people that not

have not people people people people and so

a that a Tosana that live in the camp

me is about I'm also someone who has

had had been a primary I know that's

a that is a a that's and see not it's

not any in television or in radio or this this,

this, this is a way, it's a way to be able to the way the same

the time is the third point, the the knowledge occulte. The

know, the thing, is a Samudio he passed to an

good Antonio Samudio. A good, a good, yeah, the good an good

a good a good a good a man, he he had occurred that

Something that he had lived, something, but that's he knew a many. In occasions, the demons have

known in the person who, in some way, they're in those data, and they say something that only he's

entire. There's a case. I don't remember if was of Gallagher or of the

that's very very strong, because they're in the middle of an exorcism, he's still doing

still a document, he's and he noticed, and he noticed, something that had

happened in days the process to start in a word of a word of a word he's

he knows he he knows he he's in glosia or glosolalia no says if he's inventing the

words or if he's talking in a little because it is something that he has

a but he not that one of his other of the company that is

new that has had had got to a two days before

react with so then then doesn't they continue

in the session term the person no doesn't the

person And, and he's going to go to the and say, they're going to what's the what was the

he's not, he said, because I know what I did he and then the other other coate with much

he said, me was about me, I am I'm talking in my language natal. He said and me

was saying things of my family. How he's so? So that's is the case in

that are synoglosia and the knowledge and there there's there's there

there no way, and no But, well, a bit, tell us to the or I go

ahead, I mean, see, I mean, this, I mean, to be a little

about the thing of the time of the same, we're right we're about we about this

these three factors of those you have you think you also, I mean,

we know, the, more of symptoms of exorcism well, more well, more than,

like, like, like, like, this, like this, like this, rejitation,

no, of objects, of clavos, of usans, all these things, even the stigmas, and these things, but the fact is that common,

right? No. These things not are so much these, for that's more is more evident these three points

of those that mentioned, that if you can get to be very delicated. I mean, the three have their explanation

at the more, no, so they're there if you want to adjusts the turkas and force there the skepticism,

you can't say, okay, but fichate that I'm I'm doing that I'm, you know, the processes

of the exorcism, of the path, of the path, of what you do you have to do it, the Vatican,

et cetera, no? No, not it's a lot of the segment, like, the sessions, no?

Much people think that is a session in where wuelan, uh, will, the,

those, those, those, those, those, those, those, and all

maybe not so so they're so they're more to a therapy psychological at a lot of the in where if there is there's

this, orando front to the person a victim at the more there's a different thing, but can these

sessions do that's years. And so, well, what, what, what does this

time that the father go to all the day? Because as like a session psychological, there are

some time sometimes that sometimes to a time a second, a one time, a second,

a is correct. And, being like exercises that they're doing,

and the really, the really, I'm very, very very very

very very certain to the things, even even even even even

even they're a card and write, he write,

he says, you see, if you did the name,

obviously all from the perspective religious no? That

right that you're that there sometimes that some

there some people psychiatry psychiatra psychologists, et cetera, persons of science and not

learn to an an explanation clear to what is going to a lot of a secret of that year,

that's seen, never you've ever seen that term. No, of the secret of the dayer is

this thing that's the thing that in the times, in the where they're that's where

it's a car discomposed and these people, and these people, all the days

for years, during years, et cetera, with the things, with the same things, with the same things, the same objects and those are the same

problems. A lot of the same problematicas, because they're being always the same thing. No, always they're

seeing the same detail. So, what happens? It's a other person or of other place.

And then he then he'll detect the problem. And then he detects the problem. Because no, this, I don't say, no,

how to say, um, a custom, limitations, etc. So, so I think that the science is commencing is a little,

that's a little idea of the time. But, at the more the institutions ecclesiastical also,

as well, like, like the two are so, like, those two are in those customs and in

their kind of, not can get, to get to put to a quarter, but when an ecclesiastical

acute to this world, detect the problem and vice versa, as, as, as you mentioned, as the

principle of this capitual. There was there were people that discovered those trussons and then

then they were cases in the history of exorcisms famous and said this, this is not a position, it was a

psychological, agravied, etc. to the more is going to something like about this two figures

institutions. But well, that's just just I just just wanted to know, I think I think you

think you're all the reason. I think in the moment in the that's is a

work collaborative with other sciences, with people that not think they're like you

and they're another perspective, you can have a vision more global. If I

think there can be there points of a total antagonism because

it could have a, it's what you mentioned in the concept,

but really I have been to mention something that's more reductivist

really really what is that the human tending as

as natural to generate their own construction of the world. And we know our

way in the way that we think we know we're not we're concerned in what moment it's

the moment's the model programation and a part of the moment in that that

that's it's difficult that you can let's that something that's something

you're that's you're there's you're how it's a how it's

a relation to No, definitively. So that's not, that's not good. Or how has to an kid? VETE with those of the 50 and you

are going to say things that maybe as to-a-tort- are things, even things, so it's, it has to do that,

in what moment he's block your, for, your observation of the environment, and it's

it can't have, like, new, new visions. In the science, it occurs exactly exactly

exactly exactly exactly equal, because they're a moment in the that even the same religion

and the same science has changed his concept and there are people who have been not so

those people and they're like the other than the science but who who's the kind of the

reference is the that's the I'm really a attention that in this case

of exorcism a sometimes they're people they're they're but

that they have a minimum aperture not religious but of criteria, to say,

a bit, because there are people that even the don't know the he's there's a but we did it

we did it's all the hours of the six times and you have passed for the minus of the

six people. So, yeah, you're saying that you're to occur an alternative

more, the two and just to keep, you're to keep to your opinion,

a ferrado. Chango Chango, Chango, no, pre's Maroma new.

Well, what I what is. What is. It's the thing. It's

It's correct. That's so So, yeah. And is that many times we're in

the science can be like the question and the problem objective of that something

or not but we remember we also that has been his troupesos there

there were people who were for to want to go to and when it was

who did say, who were going to say we're going to be going to the

people and the society was rechas he was a Henry Ford right

that you know that you mentioned You know, this batto He said, no, yeah, the cabos

now the can't have to do this other other thing. And the people, no, you're not, you're not,

the case is that, the case is that, that's the that's the more soberia than the same religion,

so you have to have to be careful with those things. Of course, I think, that,

in what we get we've been in the talk, that no so it's much or a little,

the really, me, me, me, me, made, a change of chip,

this, that's what you like, because, well, also, you know, also,

we've mentioned this to the thing to find out to find out of something, because if you're a lot, is that's

this is this just, it's a and it's and many times the stuff, and I,

I've pecced of that's, no, I mean, what you mention you, the, of the sansonism,

well, of, uh, this, I mean, well, there's, there's,

there's, but, like, like, like, like, The chamaquita, the chamaquita, is desutrived,

has three days without food? How is possible? So, are alterations, are miracles, no? So, this is what you

say, that's, of the more, there are in entities oscura, and malignas,

with intentions negative, empugating trastornos, or not just, not on the time,

a person, to be able to be a person, I've, one of an invitation, I reserve the number, but I don't, I guess.

This person mentioned that he had many objects in his house, malditos. Rescatheded of cemeterios, of cases of investigations very fertes, et cetera, no? And he, he was going to suffer

of anxiety, of pesadies, and he was even to presentiar effects, events, paranormal. A little more,

that was to there was that's something that this person was with chamanes this person was with

this person was with this because he was convinced that what he was that was what was the quantity

of objects that was there energy that was accumuland in that the result of this the great

response that was that was with a psychiatrist and he recited some set some

the problem exactly so is like, but, and you keep you guys thinking, oh, but,

but, this, but, they're in the things on the things so,

but see, but, a bit, this, one thing, a lot, no see,

like right that you mentiones this, yeah me has more sense. Even,

I don't see, we're we're that we're there's, but, you're

there's, that's a poltergis is a, is a, is a, a, is a,

is a, so, so, so, not that they're in a in a bell, in the science,

that not's not been, not's able to discover of all, that can explain the why a

way a or a person or so on, or so, so it's, so it's very interesting, this,

this, man, no? What, that's, well, that's the that's the right,

we know, we know, we know, if the human, has more potential or could do

more things, more than the way, that's where just where it's where the questions

of Polderdes with telekinesis with these generations of fire spontaneous and there are many many phenomena

that have been with that maybe, that's there's a possibility that the human

has a real time so much, retomating so the possessions many of the processos present them

these things, telekinesis the, they're in the temperature of the levitation,

eh a bit meditation, exactly. that there are many people of different cultures of different cycles

for not to say to say even years that have jured, that have done levittation.

The idea of the levitation comes from the greatence of the possessions. Result that in the possessions

if there there are feasientes in the that is not I mean I don't

I'm to say that all the people that are people that are many

are, or so, it could be a grand fraud very well, but I'm not the first

first, the first, that's, exactly, but maybe it may be there that we're

talking about of a capacity human, that the day of that's not,

I'm to do you, so, not because not because not we're not necessarily

that means that you necessarily, it's a problem, a situation, or something or something

or that area of your brain, or of the area of the

is being altered and can alterer your enthrer your well, it could be that we'll discoverable the area by the through the transornes that provoking that

occur in these things and not not so much for the development psychospirational of the person. I don't see

me explain. So, maybe, ver tantos of this type and it's to make an intuition

of what is a person that is a person and not with the entities and not with

the other in some the ideas, you can do you know, to what

way to develop these abilities. But it's that are areas of the science that still are in

a clear of the same, in a limbo, and there's much a rechazzo, eh?

So, we know, we did a chapter specifically like the fact, of the

postergays, in the other a studyer of, in where he is a, he's, he's, plantiating

all this, from a investigation very rigorous that made a that made of a very interesting of a little that in their

house they're going to to go to see you know, if you know, that's the case, andres,

he's the this, this, this, this, this, this, in an adolescent, all his family

was, she saw, a victim of that in a certain a certain hour, a certain

hour, we're talking of, we're talking about four hours consecutively, for the ventanas,

enter them like if someone would be around and they're and they're and they're in the mess

in the mess at the commedor always. So he saw the he was very very interesting and at

the person of a science he said we're going to see what and he starts all the

investigation from the from the time historical antecedents of Pultergis of cases

similar that not that are not that but he says about the Patron's.

About of the young of the age of the adolescence with problems familiar with

tensions in house, with things so that is a clearly is something that's

something taboos that existia that was that was that was that was about of the

lot of the lobotomia all, all, all begins to be bad, if it's

it's all so it's it's very good. The bat deduce at this.

That probably the polteries, the phenomenon polteries, as we know and it's, he's going to get to be able to

get to get us a lot of the levitation of objects and the arduhers and he, and he'll play it that

that's a way, that's a kind of a trastorno paracological because yeah at the final, of the

child, the child, he recetan pastillas and yeah it's a problem. It's very

interesting. But, but, I think I'm thinking in this, because many people also say, more the people

that have been an affinity with the time of chamanism or of brujeria or new age, even in where it's promulgar

much this thing of the medication as something like a little to be a favor of that. I think

that the problem not so the problems don't disappear when those are you put us about the camera.

It's can't to have that part. But there are some of the time of the medication, for all the conspirations that exist in the, of the,

of the, of the, of the, of the, the, of the, many people, people who have had been done

transornos, paracologicalical, that even could engage, there, the theme medium, the time, lectures,

the things, and all this, to that's sensibility, a little not is a problem, a,

but if it's a problem, but if it's a tristorn, but it's something that, not all the people have and as you

you know a trostron psychological has a general a question something that you're doing

you're doing and you know, and many people say that you have to have to use it and

not to have me to get so that so that this case, that thesis, that I'm that I'm

on the time the child the he recet pastillas and it can be the problem

it may it may be a perce no? I mean that the

thing not be a adornilar to the person, but to understand it, we'll just study it more, we're going to control,

at the more these forces of the inertia that are the reality. Who knows? The fact is that's interesting. What interesting.

Ficate, is that with the those transornes with things really lowcas. There's a something that I'm going to

do that, not going to do not be a lot that's very different people. Let me ask you one of

a person that had Tristons of panic. The Trachronos of the day of today today of today to do you

do they're many times attacks of anxiety, attacks of panic and this person said that

specifically to him had to him have to something that probably they were doing

grugery that probably somebody somebody he was saying something because

he had six months and now he was seeing seeing somebras

sombras that were come, sombrows that when was sent out in the room,

they're when they're in the room, and they're when we know, we're doing

we're doing that the trauma that's so much, but it's apart other

things, a crisis of anxiety, try a situation in the house, try many

things that's that has been, as it has been, like the part of

the trauma and the attacks of panic, you of a chain very large

of situations not resolved if you start to do you're in to work the other things

and then it's no sombras no absolutely nothing one of the things

that that's that this is that is that when not it is a

not you not you don't you the not you serve the medicaments not you

the don't you need any there no there there

there there there there there are There is one of the data that's also,

as too, as we mentioned what you mentioned for me, Sergian, in questions of possessions, there are much

more data that's about about the signos or symptoms of that one person could have had

had been a problemat of these. Well, there's an aberration to the sacred or

to the saint or to the religious. But I said, well, is that

when you see something when you do you do you do make to make a

in the can't activating other things. But I'm with a story of the father of

the father has a story of he's not a he or fortea is that he's a lot of he's made a

so he's all that's all documented, it is very good, I'm very I'm very I'm always

I'm always I'm I'm always I'm not the stories and the stories are of terror and the

books are to tell but he also he he's the part in the part in the

you say you don't think you that part is a Esperanzada chida. So it's

like, I'm a book very very well unethical between narratives, but things

that also that bring we're, we're this question, this question of the aberration to

the abrational, is very interesting because they're an experiment with a person.

Resulte that there a man of a house that has been very aggressive

ultimately. When they're they're to revise and check a your case,

they're in a case of a session spiritist, a part of that's a time to do

and has been growing, first to be all the questions that are spiritual, then then be able

to be a person more more of other than the way to and then then they're going to

be a experiment to determine because I don't have to go to your

house and do that's not to try me any whatever

preender of her that you want. And then he's a pair to a vestige and he has a bendicion over the vestido, he rocy, water,

and it's, he says, that by any circumstance, he de that you're doing to this. I want to

you're going to gogated, in the person, he was going to do you know, and the person in a second after, and

a little bit of a little bit of the vestige of he's put and he is to I'm going to this

thing, me's this thing and he he's and he he's he

muggerer of a how could try to have this in my guarderropa and

then he he said I don't in any moment he said and what he bent

is water this no not was not for this not was so

I'm so so he's in effect after the type of

possession but the aberration to the aback without that

you know, that there's there. And there are people who get to places, and that's the

knowledge of the occulte, in the places in the never have been in and you're saying,

okay, what we're doing, but for all the people, but for the other

things, you're, it's, a, a lot, it's not, you, know, it's, a lot of, it's interesting. understanding how is the psyche human and then you know,

and then you know, you know, because no it's a way. And here where pass the problem is an eye way. Yeah,

of the fact, well, I want to talk two things rapidito, no, I don't, no,

no, not for, this questioner, the, the story that you've got to but, you just

to say this, no, of that, no, it's acid, no, it's arsid, no,

what's ars it's ars that's, well, we're sure we're we're water, no?

So, so, you know, that have been, this person who want to do the

thing, the claim, the creency of the person, of the vulnerability, well,

of the workilistic, et cetera. And there are many anecdotes, and there many people that have

been told the tricks that are those trucos that are to, like, to,

at the more, to let's get to get to there, and one of the, of the

typical is the, the one, that they they say, take water,

no, and they're a water, and it's the water normal, the first set. The next set they're going yeah,

now see, the jobito that they're with the car and all over the thing, and so that's the same water

that you, where you're going to get that's and it's on and it's to come out, and you're

getting the first, oh, this is water, so you know, and the next time they're going,

and it's acid, and it's it's is to arm a trick of magic. It's not a

true of magic and more if you you're selling the solution. In the case of what you're in the

thing of the thing that's it's evident that's a true. What is the anecdote that the anecdote

that you talked about the vestido? Well, if there there's that the matter of

the contact of the sudden or something, they're they're to do start and

they're maybe that's so the second thing that I want to

you It's very easy for me to say this because I've been there. And I once I've known a person

that's a town of a town of a town of who a year to a year so this person studied psychology

and has a mind very very scientific etc. This person me told about how to

how to his mom he had done a exorcism and I me I'm

I'm I'm coming of you so me makes very very

that really the details of the exorcism not are very important because, I don't know there's like

the privacy but, so, I don't know if really is something that is something like

so indisputable really really, uh, real or really not we're prepared for more

that we're saying, for example I mean mention, you mentioned of experts theoretical, but no,

but not, but not is the practical. The practice, because I'm you also, I can't say, no,

that's, the injections of adrenaline has been that maybe the muscles expand and, and what you

want you want to be a person carrying a car, you know, I'm going to alarm,

but, although I know this information. So, it's very important also when

we're I'm listening stories that, that we're going or not we can't believe them, there's this factor that's the factor

that's the factor, we're not we're not we're not going, it's very easy to say, well, I know, but something's a person, no,

it's very, very good point. Number one, I think the people have to start this type of tricks. A me,

I mean, the questions of how to do this type of frauds, are the things that that are the things that I'm still

the time. The information that I'm doing from here. There's no there's no information visual in

in the in the time. Also, the credibility of the person and mentioned a point there

very interesting, the cobron. No is that the people who don't have to looker because at the final

they have to get to get a person to but in the case of these that we're

mentioning until where I know historically or so not at the day of I've seen

that's a popular a cause to say all the shingadderas that's because

even the day of today the father is still and I think he has

a credibility that in circles very serious so so it's so I

would be there I'm that there there some that

exceme of a story a negative at this but it's

like it's like a appearance and they're with professionals but not

theoretical professionals that they're they're they're they're they're

they're definitely a or a so a provision of the

person to that's that's that they're that I'm

I'm that he's he he he's they're they why he

there you know, you're a little. One, if there's cintas. So,

is there. Two, not are publicas because it's the life of a person and is their intimacy. And no

we're going to to get that the light. He's, but the third is that the people that really, that

really, the cintas and they're they're and they're doing working in this. So,

he's like, this is obvious. The person people that we're not the we're here, we'll

help in this role, are people aseptic, they're not after the stintas, but after the contact of people

that come to the stumbed the science. But with this is, it's awas, because what you docheco,

is very certain. There's many people who lucran with this situation. There's a

movie that for me is of my favorite that's called the last the last the last

about 10, 15 years. The does? It's a person, but no. It's a

pastor of a iglesia without a he has exorcism

but he no creed nothing of that he does he has some those

rituals where just alter the water alter the cruces he

he he's he put like different mechanisms for that when he

he he's he he's he he's he's he

all he's he's good so it's so where

one person met the the water and the water is an water bendit then it's a burbuear but

really he had put a chemical has to be used some little places, so it's that's the thing that's the person that

you're going to to save because you think that's having a situation psychological and he's like he was super

effective until that's a case in the that not is exactly but this is fiction

who has it's a movie of my favorite is an terrorator is a other

But the reasonamations is very good, because, I mean, right we're we're talking about of this, of some

of the other things, the effect of placebo. Uh, or so, a little you,

you're, so, you're, you're, so, you know, and it's, and it's,

I mean, I mean, this, I mean, it's very common that functioned. It's, so,

that the Vatican recives hundreds of millions of solicitudes to prove an exorcism and the

fact is that the 75% are false those, so, so how, how you

a person to think that is a person that is a person about this trastorno if it's a trastorno

there's, there are types of disorders that they're really, almost, almost all they're,

they're driving of the, the delirio of persecution, of the, how, how is it when you

when you're when you're when you're all these things and all, and many things

derives of the paranoia but, there are people that are that were substituted, that are

that they're that's, there are people who are that's a thing, that in that in

any moment they're to get a way in a life very nihilist there. There are there's

there's there's there's a there's a more, I'm not I'm I'm

here, but at the mic, no, I'm know, and I've

heard of the fact precisely there are some there are some

there some people of us that are in a in a in a a

life that's one of one of them and he's to make to make to think

this this bat has been to me my life who is no

no exist I know no exist I know to it's like

it's spiritual and I know like but but

but does but there people that there of really.

And you are you are some and how you know, how you you know, how you

play you in the can't do it's interesting. That's very interesting. Look, that's

good that you can you make this this very present. No we're not we're

in 1, 40, 50, 60. At the day of today, there

there's much much of the transornos and the psychiatras have done

divulgation of this scientifics, even books that you can't top in the different libraries,

put the name the you want to you're in there's, there are articles in internet, there's

talking in the reds about this. So, when you start in the, in the person,

in the that's you know, you know, there's a question, there's a thing about,

what is this thing, and how it and how it they're doing, and how it's all the, they're not, as an expense

of that, All other. Every day they've been aborted more and more and more and more

cases. And they're proliferated. That there are many variations of the cases that are

super prepared many of them. For that's that's rare when I don't say a novato, but to

someone that is eminence in the thing, it's rare that's it's a thing to

it's strange that in the in the in the the trato because I'm I'm

I'm listen to the family no I don't know what you're doing. Yes, yes,

yes, yes, salutes to the family of the nocturner. But if you do you're like,

let the like, and subscribe to this channel, eh, I mean, I'm still a lot of me I'm just doing,

I'm sure, I know, I got re-vuel, and it's a thing that's a thing that I'm a passion, I'm a

person, the is that, if you're that's just like you're that's just to be doing to you know

and callifikers in Spotify. Recurda that your quality to get to much for

to get a more. Oh, there you go. No, no important that you

do you know, no important, from, that you do you to do you to do things

to do not me for not men's about, but I know, people who

are in that's, a house, mecacacos, conductors, chicas, chicas that

are secretaries, and of all the different, you want, the doctors, engineers,

abogas, no important that you do you the I mean, for

you can't you know. You can't you know. When you're when you're

you're sure. But the of 10, 15 or 20 years well, you know,

a moment in the going to go and you're going if we're we're we're going to

him. So, he's he's because you know, because you see that

person that's the person of a way in that you maybe you you're

you're you're you you're a top after the You know, to them.

So, to those me refer. In all the sciences, there's a person that's a person who for their form

to think, for their practice, for experiences, for what you but it's because it does make the thing,

knows much about the thing, and it's a person, and it's more difficult and more when

you're two or three, that's going to get to a little so it, then it's when you

they're doing when they're they're saying, no, it's explain. That's where, oh,

yeah, no is a lot of person, and more there's, in certain cases, in those who are so there's been documented,

that's been to be able to people, so, so, for that they're not going to be the , and it's

a cellar to the day of the time. And from, there's there's, no,

there's, no there. But, if it's very important that the people know,

that the diagnostico is something is something because, because our system our

way to perceive the world is fallible we're we're we're we're

and we're and so it's we're there there's this exercise that's

this exercise, that's they put it's many they're many they're

you want to you you know how if you you want to

you want to get in the and you're you're you're

you you're things No, no, no, no. You go to to crosser the piece of,

I mean, I'm going to be going to lastimal or something? No. No, no, no.

I'm not to be there. Derely that's over. No, no, I was a middle

perigrosa. Okay. I'm, I'm, I'm going to go back down. Me, they're going to

the brasos, me agar those and they're they're and they're not to to lastimary.

They're counting 60 seconds and the 60 seconds are about 15 or 20 seconds more.

My my brain my time. Like, I'm going to to do a to do a to do a

to do a little. They're going to get a and then the mother, I think

that I'm getting me in the piece. But I'm there's a way, because they're

going to because they're going to my browses, I'm I'm going I'm I'm

so the exception it's changed. Of You've been in a position Distincter, what you have

your orientation of this is the piece, you know, the point, but the sensation, this is very important. The sensation

not is, ah, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

and I'm, that's, so, there's, there's many, there's, that's

They're playing about the errors that we have in the perception of our senses. And that's very important because many problems for psychologics are more than that. I mean,

I'm moved the things, to me, me has talked in many people, that in the life normal are people super

disorganized. And then it's a, well, and then you're in all right. Of course, that's what you

do that's, is very important, because it's an example even of empathy, of exercise of empathy.

Because you, you, of the really, you're really that's something but it's

going to not going. So, you're confused. So imagine to a person a more

depressive, at a more, this, with some type of psychosis or something,

that person is a person is living it. There's there's a channel of YouTube

of a person of a person documenta the manner of therapy. The

the fact you know the person No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's another that's another. Okay.

No, I'm a person that's a person, it's a person that's a person that's literally, is a person that's,

that's a person that's, and the form of therapy, when he is that's going to an episode of

paranoia or psychosis, put to grab his camera. So, very interesting because he, he,

he's, he's, he's, he's, enter in the sillon. And you, how you go,

he's to som a the window, he's to sit, I'm in a bat, because of the

really he's in a little to get in the end of the corners, and he was putting in

the subtitles, he was, he was, I'm putting that I didn't, I didn't, I,

saw, I, saw, I, that I, that they took the window, for this I,

because I'm in a thing, but I'm just, but, but, but this

person, obviously does that this fin, no, has passed the episode, be the video, and,

in some way, he'll encounter a pass with that. And it's very interesting, because there are that they're

in your psyche, for example, the trauma of identity dissociative, that was a person to be multiple, but yeah not

is so, now is the, the problem of the identity dissociative, and as we about about how to

them, I mean, in my case, I don't know I'm not more an passionate of the thing, I've heard of people

that have heard of this and in the investigation of how it's because this really is

something new, then it will be a year of the spectrum of the spectrum of the health and

the spectrums mental. That's this this is this name, no? The SM4, the SM5. That's emerald.

That's emerald. That's kind of relatively new and the people are this, a unification, no,

of your psyche did you do it based a a trauma that a more,

it's very common that, for example, in persons that have been, uh,

abuse, so, so, so, so, so, so, that's,

that's, living, that's, and the other part that's so, so,

so, so, so, they, they, so, so, and,

and, and, and, one of fragentated, like, every every

is fragmenting more and more. So, the people that are out of the problem,

we think we're unification them to know. So, however, it's about to be able to learn to

live with the system. Exactly. So, it's a person, of a personality, no see,

an identity that's controlling the other, so, so, so, has, like,

it has to be able to get to do it, but it's a system order, but,

no. And there people that's that's that's different that's

a lot of there's a thing that's a lot of that's that's repeated the occasions

abuses of and other and so and so and so and so and so different

and it and so did it and she did and it but there's also that there's a

person who has been with Jord I'm that has the she has a another

I don't remember how she's what you is the that's what you say? What's the natural?

This this chick that has also a person who identity and a societive and he

about about how is living with this and does his blogs and he has a system very interesting

in his videos in those, you have their personalities as a different because

when she is talking he's the color like she he was in that she was

very interesting is this long soul it's a long soul long soul long soul is a Mexican, no?

Yeah, is Mexican. She has this tristorn and it's very interesting how she has

learned, yeah, has been a form, a system of a system to live with these personalities. But there have

been a case of the extreme also, that the fact is that the mind and the

world is incredibly fantastic that of that a person with a identity

desosetive, one of the personalities has, has, has been eyes the other

those have reds. Ah, it's very interesting. One, even there's that one has

one has a diabetes and the other no. Aha, one has, and the really

they're they're really they're they're they're they're and it and it

is a it's that it's not it's like accept it and, and I know,

it's very very interesting boy. It's what you when you're certain

that many people is where see where they've been At the moment of the

tristorn and notar what happens, you can't get a kind of the capacity of the brain.

There are when I'm when I'm saying, well, it's like, it's like if it's like,

no, no, no, no, they're, they're they're not, they're seeing the

is, if the Cerevercied light and no perceives light. Literally, the person

is a seea and then then it becomes a personality and perceive the

Cereverver. How you can't blocker to that level no, or so, no is possible

so it's well, no is possible under the understanding actual. If it's possible,

because there is going to happen. The point is that, well, is in a

trauma. She, no, he or the person that person that doesn't not he,

but it's very interesting because in the other of the transornos you

do you don't the phenomena psychological you you can you

can't the human when when I'm in hypnosis there

were some exercises that they were actually that you question about then

then to then to see what is real and that is real and that it's

to enter in trance the the point of the hypnosis that I was

a therapeutic but you need to you the

capacity that was the so the things that they

were with no fan to generate some type of comedy. It was to not to be they're not

that people not percibiaring one part of their not percivian a brazo and they were they're saying

where is my arm? And he's to be my brazo and not they're not an

actors. It was someone that two minutes after was not not

he had had been had had a and he was he in that moment

no perceived a extremity of his body. Could you

can be able some the things, could mordered a seaboy and you see, and you're like it's

that they're so much that's not so that's the instruction that's you did. You could

do you. For the inductions hypnotics, there was to all. So, from them,

to say, to do you do a movement of your hands, put a music, say,

and you had that the people were, you're But you could be a lot of phenomena

that occur in the day from the day from things that are to come and make that's that they're

to make to beck to people obviously that have a question related to ingesta

or questions of and things that's been functioned yeah but

but all these these for situations of our are the most

difficult to manage and normally it manage so like

like a form eclectic the final has to do things about the problem

about the so you're a part but not it's a way you need to do you know

you're doing it's a lot of is capable of a lot of things impressive it.

It can as it was in the case of this person that had those moments like of

psychosis you, you can you can't listen things and but here is

a factor important. What is the difference between an eschisophrinated and a person that's

having some kind of a vejation diabolica or that's living in a little bit that's

you know you know one is the testigo two is that that thing not interactua with the

person schizophrenic so yeah and that I tumbo a a peret

the wall the pad if I'm you let's you let's you're only

you're not normally in salvo many many normally there are double testigos in the

questions of possessions and there are various and then all do they're all they know or that thing does information about the people

that are doing information that says he he's not he could have that's information there's a there's a

real co that about this that does more data about the questions paranormal but also

also of the human you know I want to I'm I don't never had

heard something way. This is a bit rare. A bit. It's a bit. It's a bit. It's a bit of a bit. It's a simple, it's simple, but super strange. One person is to be with some policeies because

they're saying that in their colony have seen runar in an edifico a person very high, they're an assaltant a person very and that's being for all the,

like, for the doors, it's starting like to be to come to get to some house. And they've

been seen being like in two two times. Nobody's he's the

topado to the front but it's like it's like a way to come to when they're the door,

no, when they're to be the they're doing, they're doing, they're like it and when they're in the

and they're they're doing they're doing to get a person and they they're saying, how does if you're

a man? Well, it's a person that's a person that's a that's, and if we're we're

going to be we're going to we don't we top we we're we're help us

to corralarer. Because it's a type that's a type of he's able to get to get for you're

so they're not sure of they're a person. It's that they're a reportes. And the

description was equal all the time. So, it was a actually. And they've seen somebrass

but they they'd have so they gave much to those, they'd be so, so, so,

he's done, so, you're just a chance a man. It's like one or two

and they mark, we're in, we're in out of your building, we, because we're doing the person is

here up here and it's not in the sotea and it's soomada by back. So, says,

if I'm going to go to there. So, he says, he's a som to he, and

he's got to and they're they're in, and he's said, well, that's a one and

that other he's to get down to way, but to do you but that

one does what is what is what is what's the other police, they'll come up,

they're up, they're right, it's not he's moving, they're

to get to the so they're going to the the the police

is armed, the other person is very very embalenton and then

then they're going to get to the point in the person

and they are they're and they are the policeia is to the

there's there in front of you way There's there.

No, they were. And no they were. None of those two that's there's in

that's a sunbrough no, they're not they see. The of the

time, the when they they're they're doing, they're they're they're

they're they're so they're oh mamas. So, and me and me he's

he's, the story that's the stories that are in are, so, so,

so, so, so, I think, so, that's, what, What happened there?

It's like there There's a radio in the that could have even put their self-perception because if it's like

there's a entity, or things, that are there can't be, because there's there's a person that

there's a person that you know, but when he was never saw, and when he was never saw, he never saw never, but there

one that's and it's important. No, they're a thing that's a lotron. Yes, that's the,

it's the best things that are, of the best of the first of, when they're sure,

oh, oh, hey, no, paredate, it's, no, no, it's a

fear, no, no, no, no, in that way, no, because of

a lot of that's but, but, but, yeah, so, it's very

so, it's very , because, I was, I was, I'm, like,

so, like, so, like, of what, of what, it depends that,

a more what is a position this could have to have the two,

no, of the theme theological and the thing now now

so but I think that we really, we we need to put

more attention is the the why and why they and for

they're a question to a person in a person in a

person in a person who someone that has a kind that can

that can afford or what is the reason of this,

no? And I I'm talking about about the case of this this

story, what is really what is really what is really that the perception extrasensorial,

I was, I was, I was going to a story that, I'm going to get, in an

state in a state very, this, has, delicate, uh, delicate

mentally, no? Some, some, some, some, some, some,

some, some, some, some, little So, so, no, no, no, don't you preoccupies,

the, the age, carnal, the age. But, well, this, I think,

because in his house, we've grown, all the friends, so, no?

So, we've been there, this, had, had, had, had,

had, adventures, no, of primos, and, and there many, anecdotas,

and various like, legends, that's been told into that the house,

I'm the typical house of the abuela, you, I'm like I've

taken a lot of I've taken to talk about when I'm in my infancy and I'm never fear to get to

be a lot of I'm in only to tell you can't tell you one of the one of the raiuela

you know, you know, yeah, yeah, the that's the imagine it, the,

you know, imagine it's, so we're so we're so we're so we're there's a thing,

and the focus of a that's the fourth, in where there's a course,

no? We're remember my prime and I, and two primos that were

more, more chikos than we, we're, we're, the, the paper there,

of idols, no, of, to teach us the life, etc. So, when

when it goes to we'll be, we're the prime, to the best, it's that

has been been we'll, we're the focus, because, the really was the focus

on the switch of the other other side, I remember, I remember that we did we're a way to a lot of

our friends, that's that's not, then the night, I'm, I said, hey,

what, I think, I know, I don't know, I don't, no, I don't, I don't, no, I'm,

I don't, the explanation that after that my primio has been, has been, like, has been,

one of the time, in that in that same quarter, I'm a roperer

grandot, a closet very in where he he says, he said, he's at a point

to do not to do this and he he's not they're in the madera so the closet. So he

he's he's he's a and be that's a back and so that he

gets to get to start and he says, well, I'm going to let's I'm going to

let's the going to be to to talk. And thinking that a little maybe is a

rat, thinking that the most you want to be a mind of a man of a kid

you can give a question. He said that's past the minutes he's

he's like the of the robes and he says, he says that's

he's he's like and he is like a burrower that a rice that we

have to the family of that another in the family. But why I'm going to

this? Because when I'm to know to the situation of my abuela, she,

uh, now right she's not she's been in that house. The house we put us to the

house we're living in other other place, etc. because yeah not is self-sufficient

et cetera, but not, uh, things of the things of the last days,

the last months was, he told about, he to me a mom, to my

my, to me, to be, that was of trying to to get to to get a little.

And my, and my, and my, my, my, my, the boy this,

he's, he's going, and he's, and I'm, I'm, and I'm, and, like, and,

like, we, it's the, it's the, it's the, , you know, I think, I'm,

I'm, those, in those in those things, in that's all the time,

et, so, so, decided to think that a lot of a lot of a lucination

because of his a coiffing and a association that I'm with my subrinitos

etc. Sin embargo now that we're talking of this I'm to me the possibility

that probably probably because because of the disease or the mental of my

abel could have been acceding to the maybe to the some

some some we can know I say I I'm

I don't It's a much sure to have been a possibility. A possibility from psychology

is a question like a succession of time. In some moment, I've had a little bit more. But it

he's a record and it like it's a time when it occurred. And exactly who is for questions of

memory and it generates much really a because it's a need to talk about a man

that's because maybe a memory he's recording a scene that happened a

other years with some a prim. And that's in a moment was something for her

and it's a little bit and it's not a day of the day of not is associated with the

rest of situations that is so that's an typical and it's interpreted in different

ways, but it could be a question merely of the mental. Exactly.

Exactly. The other is that could be that could have occurred with people who are in

certain testigos or persons there and then they're not nothing, then they're they're

they're, they're, okay, no it's a no it's a unalucination. Now, the fact

that a second testigo not it means it that no, because no, not,

not is that the first person, what they're being being the fact, no.

So, the only that's doing is that's that's that's well,

no, a no, a second So, so, so, the two

camps in the one could be a explanation a question and a question, and other

would be a question in that if you have been, there was a person who have had been stories in that

house, and there are correlations between the type of stories and your abel

now is talking something that you have got that's something that's

that could be able to be now. That's what interesting. That's the interesting.

If it could in the psychological that is record the stories

but it was like it's like it's that's that's it's a it's a yeah, has a chero

of things that can't do you know the story is good the story is interesting, lamented much

what of your old but the story is a but the story is really I mean I'm

I'm I'm sure I'm sure because not it's the thing is the thing it's the

things that what you say is these loops in same things, is part also of your

own in fact that's interesting is like, look at the final of the whole the other

the other the anecdotes that we've in that case, this, not paranormal me,

me, I refer to Naviades, a year new, new, complanos, all. I remember my, my

prim was in the patio in a patio in a patio very frondos with many and I was in the light

and said, it was like that I'm like that it's like that it's a lot of it's a lot of it's nothous to think

oh yeah and the maybe there's there was there and was just I'm dispidating of my you know,

very similar to you know what you've been but I'm I'm part but not I'm part of that really

in some some some when they were when they were very little

his his his father both were a first the father

and two years after the mom really they were very very

young I think they were a family great and the

major in that he was between 17 and

20 years but they was six the five years

so So they were, those young, just the most adults, the most adultos, the,

the most adults, they're in the people, they're doing the most of their time, to be able to

get to be to the rest of his herbanos. So, they're people, super

workadors. The family, the I, I was, I, five years, six years.

For so I'm, I'm not form a part of this story. Okay. Because I

was a house, but was a the final and not he not was

conscious of many things. Noto that the family is

to be to obviously to assist them to support, to be

to be to look this family that has a

union and more after those times but but

also conform they going going going and I

know that certain people reug to go to

that and then it because why and yeah

getting to my adolesence and to ask it. Resulta

and they say that the house was in a car's a but not one

or two people a ching a ching of people and that they said that

they were there were people that were that had lived there

were different people that they got to know

but here here came in the strange so they

they were they were like the people that visit the

house with the family. When they were a reunion a little more grand and they were

the people where you was where a man who had a man who was out of the house and he was

going to and then he was a person for the mano I was I was and I was

no I no no no one of you someone there's someone and he said

I'm I'm seeing a person and where I'm there was there

was a person who were people were people who and that they never know

that's I'm a caron that because they're going going to the years

and I'm going to more amissed of this group. All they're

these stories, but this family not defunded the story.

So, it when we're when we and then when I did it but

never never never said in no no I

then you they they're they they they're they they

they're when they when there someone he happened, no,

no, no, you're going to talk. No, no, you're not many, many, many,

many, but it's a house really, because I know that's many of many six

people who had no idea of the history and you're and they repeat, and the

other other other way. But I have gone, yeah, the day of you,

and that house no, and that's other thing, but more than a two hundred

times, never me never made nothing, never never nothing, but I know more

than 20 people and it was the same story repeated and that they said, you know, they've been

told the history. No, we, me told them and I said, and I said, I said, then they said,

so there's there's, so there's and places that are that they're that they are certain

moments and certain people, because for what I go with this, you're, there,

there were there were there and not people, but not for this things.

I mean, 200 times never me ever happened and there were many people that were many times

that never there's a but there more of a thing. And then then there are things

very interesting and my family at the more not the not the stories of

terror, but there there's a particular that I would like to talk to the

this this I know, this I'm this I've got to much much in the

podcast for, even to to show my postura and these

phenomena and I think that chido that we'll talk about I think it Cable here in this

chapter. Because it has a little to be with the, with the, with how it's going

the history and how we we're going all about all the part psychology because, I remember

one of the vacations, now see, of these vacations in which all the family,

and they're all in all the same in this time, were the were in the

first, were in what you got, 14, 15 years, so to me

always I really, I've liked all this theme, because, thanks to my

prim, this, I'm induced, me induced much the thing this paranormal, and,

and to tell the stories, et cetera, no? So, we're those machitos there,

no? Yeah. These, these, that, that, that's, that,

they're, so, so, so, so, so, we've, we've,

we're, four days in this case, and the last , we've,

we've, we've, to to eat all. So, so, he was

a person, um, he was a story that were in that house, in that

same house, and he started all this environment, uh, and what more

and what's and what he's, blah, blah, and he started a lot of the quarters of that

house in where all us were that we're going to the fourth night and never had

seen nothing, so, my Prima and I, we said, oh, what on?

We're going to do we're going to see we're going to we're going to see what we're like we're like we're

like we're imagineate we we're 13, 15 years we're so we we're much chambacos so we we, we

we, we we're we we're going to hear from the closet of the closet of the,

the, like some some some were some they were like if were

they're rasping so the the so I remember that my and I

am I'm about the construction of the stories of terror that we've had we've

done during the the scene and I'm I'm I'm the doors

and we start we we're not we're just you're you're to see a mind

and even even my friend me says even is calambrando the

arm the arm to get a a mother, and I remember that we said we're going to

this quarter yeah, and we're we're going to the room and we did we're in the cell, in these

tendidos, famous where are all the people there. So in what we've got this, obviously,

well, move it, no, we're saying to those primos, no-se-ke, and we're and we're

we're doing, and we're in that, when we we're just, we're just, we're of that

of that salon, in where we're all all the room of invited to in a mom and a

a little and a woman precisely, I'm this friend who that's

an anecdote, no? So, I'm, I'm, my, my, my tia,

that the door, so, and no says nothing, no more open, so,

I'm, and then, and then then he to work to get, and then,

and then the morning the in the disjune, it's that we're

we're going this anecdote that we know, and then my tia and then of how she

was talking voices from the in the cell. We're not we're we're doing

us. I mean, really in all the house, it's a thing,

so it's a terror. And my my tia, she, she, she, she,

and she every year he's aggregating things. He's to say, that he

saw a a little, like a like you know, and I'm sorry, and I said, we're not we're the

rendigita that was chocating what was so shodding, but we're so gestionated and so aterrados

that we're so that's me is very curious, many stories so are you exactly. Exactly.

Exactly. Of course, is that I'm just that because our perception is fallible, our memory,

let's, let's, let's do what is exist. Recurred. Able we'll do what if

is like the point intermedial the day of day of today. But just just, Checo, is that our

memory can't be the time. I've told, no see in the channel,

but there a friend a friend a friend so I was a many of the other

and other stories that has no has been with questions paranormal because

is a friend of many many years. But at day

of in the 80% of of the adventures in their records, I don't I'm not I'm never

never I'm he was only, but then when we're talking we're saying okay count me

and I don't me and I'm no me with your memory now it has

it has been this and he's he kept thinking oh no and it

has it's you know that's you're not I'm

there So it's like, oh, but he he's perfectly and he narrs the

story without that I'm that I'm not going to any one of those that's

the memory is falable. There are people that they're people who get them, there are people who

do you do you do this very good in the when you when you know,

when you know, what you know is that is that is that is that is that

he's being in the story. But what the other not

know is that that's that's that's a memory. And that means that

maybe, passing the times, if I'm a story that I'm in a car, me detue

in a cellophore that's in a car rojo, he was a little bit

me, he was and when I was he, he came to and I had to

get to years he was he was he was you know, you know, you know,

you're when you're going to see when it was me is to be a

in a car rojo, he's going to assume as a memory personal, that's

that's many times, there's people who say, I'm I'm not, I'm

when we went to the public but we're we're we're

the time, and the pasto of the years generate like many many short circuits

in the conversations that I'm and that in my imagination

I met then, then my cerebral no distinct fantasy

of reality and those distinguish like my story. case like in the

Tatea that's the time and maybe for the emotion at the moment in the instant he's

he's arrohando new images to do the realto make the realtor-as more more more than you and he

and he says feedback and it's a feedback and now he it's a realte integrated

is like create a film but that's that's so that's

always I've said to the I want to reaffirm here

there are real or not real? That no it's that you don't

you know. Because a story narrated and a story a reality. the to tell us

stories and depositing their confidence in us, as in our things as we know we're in not we're not in

it's, it's very good also for the people because one you're immortalizing the relato,

no? Yeah, in that moment, you know, you're not to be able to change the another,

the when I, when I've been a paranormal in the tour in a solit with Antonio Samudio,

I was the first I did get to grab it, so first first, because I know this that we're talking,

I know how it's, I know how much in those years I'm going to go and I'm going and I'm trying. So, with this,

I'm still with the, with the thought, is that if I do you know, I'm going to, and you know, I was going to

start to think, that actually, I'm starting to think, at the more if I'm going to imaginee,

you know, I'm, I'm going to considerate factors that I was tired, I had a bit of

I'm sorry I'm doing the world of I'm doing the whole of the whole all that's all of the

factor to have seen what I but I'm however it is very important the factor the factor

the factor that you know that's in this moment that's you know it

immortalize and so and of really much thanks to the people that they

send their those stories they appreciate those we're

that, in the stories that I've made to tell you one, to see a a bit of,

a bit more. A me really, well, more, more than, because this will be

sound very cruel and no, no, is the intention. There have many people,

the people, the people, that I'm, I don't see that's what the podcast,

but me get many, many, I'm getting to come up to come

to come instantly a message when I can't when I know that is a

message that they they've just you have to send it. I'm going to do you. You know,

you know, you know, and putte to do that's your exercise and putte to do your house. Because me

took a person that says, look, I'm, the net is that I don't think I'm listening to

after a chorro. So, that's like you, I've started to start, I'm going to

talk to the talk, I'm not the and I know, I've

heard that I've heard that an episode that you have said, that's the

episode more that's the episode more that's the so I'm it's like I'm it's that I'm

you're not that's not so I'm this one more this is this I'm going to put the episode,

I was I'm listening and in my court what I've never had passed the lights

and that's that's that's rare but well a one a

fire let's I put stop normales play parpadeo stop normal

Play, parpadeo. I'm and I said, my mother that I'm my question.

He said, I'm my cellular with the lights on the blue. So,

so it's, no, it's not a great thing. But if I said, then then

so they're so they don't, I'm said, me said, I mean, I think,

I'm, but your podcast I don't I'm not I'm not I'm because

I was this, at the when I did it was a If I have a burrow and has a cajone very heavy,

that cajone, my papa, he's got, but he's got with all his forces and needs to the final to cut some travas to finally to get it. If not quits as trava the burrow complete, so that's

that cajone, no sale. Well, without a battle. When I was listening to your podcast, me to go

to drink, and during three nights'egette I mean, I'meneed the cajone in the piece, with all the

stuff in the stuff. I never heard that you know, I'm doing it. I was in the way.

And he said, and he was done the piece to the last of the thing I'm, that it's that would be that's not

that he was that he was that would be that could be that's that I'm a inclination that I'm

that I'm not still so you see like a little and the she was it's

he's he's very in-encered, nothing, the day the day he said,

I said, my dad, hey, hey, hey, me, and I'm to see,

to the check to what I'm doing to do you, he did a new, he said,

and I'm not to hear the court, and not he's going to go back.

So, so, there's there's many simple, but you say,

is that you're not a thing bambant simply, if you're in your court

and you don't you're there while you were there's So, for

So what's Interesting. Fagate that we're not We're not We're not We're not Because we're

Because we're Because we're So, so, so, or not us, or not we They're

Or not Fidate I think There was There was a Chaba that She had a situation

Like, I, for me opinion It was something that I was I was I'm like

I'm some RARas, very raras and she had had done there's

some studios and no there was and what was to not a way to be in so we're

doing this we're doing because when she came to tell us his stories she was she was

she said a but I'm I'm had passed something I didn't

the grabation here here in my in my studio no

he doesn't I'm I'm put to make some some

things to some things that had done and it I was just

super good. She's she didn't do you know the time the next to

do you know it's a matter of the way, blah, blah, blah. At the final I said it could

be a effect placebo or could be a other form to do this type of things

that has that has to be more with emotions and questions intellectual

so if you do you do you do maybe it. My

creencia is that the emotions play a important and

that these things exist in a quite as an entity

the certain there's there's there's there's there's there

so I'm that this podcast generates emotions like very very

very very very exactly and that that that that's

because the people normally the form in what what you

do they're they first they first they're so.

But well what what you are those are they And here you know, if they're victims of the podcast,

degen us in the comments. Yes. We're going to hear those anecdotes. Checo, with what you want to be to be a night of the time ofcturner. You're very saddosa. No, no, the net is that we're not

we're not having fin, you and I, oh, yeah, we've been this, yeah, we've been living several times. I don't know, but yeah, we've got one hour

talking. Before to grab. I mean, it's something that's something that It's past a few times. Thanks

the project of missions, we've done to know to see that's

that's interesting as your narrate. And the fact, not a fortunate

that you have made a so, now the trilogy with me and

that chingon. Much thanks. But I would like to have to do you

know in a one because we'll have many these stigmas

know of people we're that the schizophrenia is someone that can't be functional in the society

and that's an error really. I mean, obviously one person as we talk about

more more time if they have the good care if not have the attention necessaries

any any person can be a menace and can detonar things aggressive

etc. No have something especially especially especially aggressive,

as we we're talking about right. Yeah. I learned this, figgated. I, in the

university, I took the opportunity to do a job, this, like a campaign,

of a fairia, et cetera, a job that I, this, collaborate with the cross of the North,

that is the hospital psychiatric of here of Ramosillo. So, I remember to have been a visit

with the people, to take data, et cetera, to see how it was the

way to be the campaign we were going to do we're going to do a campaign publicitar that we're

to present in a fairia et cetera no so we that's that institution

and I wanted to talk about that idea I was a idea. Tontamente he was

young and lustro and so so I'm so I think that it was to be

very interesting that people could know to know these

trussornos, like a way theatricalon, you know, basing me merently in what we've in Hollywood.

I know in those then I had the thought that the posessions demoniacas

should be more than a trotor psychological, more than a thing theological. So I

brought that that discurs and they let's I said, oh, yeah see,

the actually, I'm like, I'm graved, and videos, announcements,

etc. with a theme but of the terror or like, like, of the word. And, and of the

word I'm, I'm sorry, no, in that moment me correct the doctora that was in the,

and he's, is that's precisely what we don't we want us. So, we're going to, that this is

terrorifico, you know, that the schizophrenia is a terrorificic, that the, that the psychosis are terrorificas,

that these trastornos are terribleifices because not they are, they, are people, are people,

You know, so, so, so, are people that have to have a special, or the more, medication, uh, attentiones,

specials, et cetera, but are people, you know, not are monsters, no, are assassins, no,

are people, so, so, uh, how, me gave a boffetadona, that reality,

you know, so, I don't, no, I put in contra, obviously, simply, simply me

of the burbuck that I had been used in base to the movies of in base

to the , uh, the, uh, the, that had heard about the

stories, et cetera. And it's that they're in an error that's the focus, you know,

I'm a , you know, I'm a, this, that I'm, um, and I'm to talk to

to you, of the relato, I'd to know stories, uh, the people

that have been working in manicognos or in hospitals psychiatrics, etc. And the fact is that the stories that were there,

no, they're going with this discourse, because they're people who had done people who had done things terrible,

well, so people that had done things very bad, but that they're not to be with

with the trastorno per se. So, if I get to tell to to your

audience, to your platform, the terrorificic that is a person that has schizophrenia,

I think we're doing a mal, I feel that's something that's something that's something I'm just I'm just

the time came out of because they're saying that they're like we're like we the side

of the schizophrenia. And like me triggered and I'm oh, wait a so, for

why? Because we we're going to present to this as something something is that

is to avoid the stigma. Also, with the the kids with the of how

if there have been a whole generations of people with this syndrome that even even even could even

even could even even a very much for the because it was a retrasated mental, no,

I mean, so it's even inhuman so, so, so it's me makes like a

kind of irresponsible and me it's that we're that we're that we're going to

let us we're having to that's in those things, in those relato

easy, well, that's good that's that's that you think it's I think it

there's a co-responsibility that the family nocturna has been perfectly and I

know that in emissions too, that when you're you're you're looking

information about about the fount is important isn't not it

is the not it not a revista a revista the two

can't have the same title or about the the same

theme. But the revista that is a scientific is a try to make a new

a new a new a lot of a idea of a other that's

very interesting the title you know he's he's very very interesting not

not not you don't not not a a

dialogue that very a person that that people

that for the people that are that are very very so

it's about the technicisms. So, depends what is your point, the

type of information and angle that in the channels of terror, well, the angle

normally will be to turn to the time, I'm that we have

done so, because I like, some I'm a good, I'm

those but I think the audiences all day to day to have

to say, wait a question to, where you you heard that

you're narrating? Because if in his times of the man peluda, Juan Ramon

you told a story of schizophrenia, you know, that would be to be a not going to do a question

scientific. It was going to the man or a woman pedudable is your point. So, also,

it's a because a sometimes it might be they want to want to want to all omit.

The comedian, it will go to the comedy, the relatus dramatical

from the drama, the romantics, from the romance, and you're going to see a someone in the

romance, that's a speciality, that you do the same about the same about the time with the

thing, someone who is a humanist, from there, someone's super spiritual, from there. So,

also, it's a responsibility to say, if it's the diffusor or the person that

is a diffundian the message, but also understand what is your line of the

line of messages, no, the to say, that's what is what is what

to see because of a moment it's a day that you know, I've got to be stories of terror

of the mentals, but have your consciousness that's that's looking stories of terror.

So, are stories of terror. Not are stories that they're not really they're

not the proportion. The proportion is super important. For every one of those people

that maybe are incerated because have been something that have done that have done

something there there are there are far that are functionales at

100, having also a part or a certain level of that's a certain not a proportion,

well, more than it does, it's, it's a make a in a problem of

destruction is very, much, or of people that really make a amount.

So, so, much, Sergio, that you have done to that's

statement, for that the family nocturn and the family of the

family of missions, can can, can, again these these

lines, And, well, you know, and I think of that, I mean, I mean, I mean, here there's a,

I mean, here there's that the community of missions will, you know, but it's an example of what

you're saying, we're talking, we're talking about of a one of a in a live, we did we give a

channel, I don't, I'm, I'm, and the, and the in the video,

is a formato more in where we're in, so we're, so, so,

so the dynamic that we got us the right I'm I'm going to know

significates of dreams from the cosmopolitan and minor was reading the significates of the

sources of a field of a story of the psychology and one and one we're

and contrast and then no one or another you know and another and we don't

we're a fencing of information and not not not

not not we not we're not That's what you've got you said is very certain and it's really the essence of emissions.

For that's all the goal. So if you, you do so, this type of this type of this kind of you can't go. That's cool.

To see, what you have to say, very amative with this also I would be to start the day of

is we're talking about when they when they put to see these two opinions from the revistas

from the situation of the situations of the situation of the suing and contrasted that the person is the moment

of the moment of I'm that there are much abortages for all the thematic

super important because the world, the world is a much so if you want to

talk to me, I'm really to say to the people, we, we'll be,

we're not the channel of documentation because the error is too.

So in no no no this is a channel of

probedita. As I'm very curious and a questionon, I want to generate these curiosity and those questions and

that's you know, okay, I'm more of this thing, and putte to and now

there's many there's many there, books, for that we have references to books, we're references

to other podcasts, we're not we're not we're not that people, for that that's

to be sembrating those semittas to say, I'm going to document me. But here

in this channel is only the entradita, only the provadita, and it's general that

way, I don't expect that would be that I'm sure of this thematic not. Sure,

of Chumel Torres, I'm going to a serrake a seat of Chumel Torres, that says,

if you see you you've been a public, you're a pendejo. It's a comedy?

Exactly. It's comedia. And the creator to do you know, you know, is that,

is that, and you and you and you, but here every kind of has to

have the decision. but well. But Sergio, de new, Checo, Demacious, thank you.

A lot of Tia, your community. It's too a big, a lot of a platic. We're going to do it,

three hours and a fraction. What? Two hours will be to get to the episode and three hours

with all the intro that we know, I'm sure. I'm I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure.

I'm sure. Look at this here. See, it's got to be the truth. The net. The fact,

I mean, I know that maybe it's a wronged a little to be in your form. I'm not ever

I've felted much always when I'm particking with you is a gazacko is an enrequisement incredible this,

so mental, psychological, to spiritual at a so I'm so, so I'm really,

I'm really, I think that's also the team of missiones to thank to the

three parts that you have made these three capitulos this trilogy, we're

we're just we've I'd have liked much this. And, we're going to

go to see a lot of this not the last time that's the time. It's not the last time

that you're to be the time. That's a guarantee. That's a yeah, you know, and more

a little we're doing a little carchid with things lots. Oh, well.

Much thanks. Abrac one. Abrac time. And, I'd

see a good time. We'll see in the next episode and that they have

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