HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - MAGIA NEGRA | FT. PACO ARIAS | @extraanormalpodcast | EP 088

Episode Date: May 16, 2023

No se hubiera imaginado lo que le hicieron por envidia. Bienvenida familia nocturna a este episodio 088 en el que el Narrador junto con Paco Arias @extraanormalpodcast nos cuentan historias macabras y escalofriantes acerca de amarres, magia negra y brujería que te erizarán la piel. Algunas de las historias que escucharás: - el demonio sin cara - historias de miedo con aplicaciones de citas. - la quería destruir - le hicieron un trabajo por envidia - ofrenda para ente oscuro - trabajo maligno de ausencia de vida. Si llegaste hasta acá querido lector escribe en los comentarios: " te invoco querido narrador" a lo que te responderé "me has llamado querido lector" a lo que solo tu yo sabremos de lo que estamos hablando ESTRENOS LUNES Y JUEVES A LAS 12 DE MEDIODÍA HORARIO DE CD MEXICO. Siguenos en nuestras redes como @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE

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The day of today, we have a super episode with a super-invited, my grand brother, the good Paco Arias, of podcast extra normal. That good. First, the good. First, the best of having to be here.

What, brother? Muchis about. A lot. A lot of a while a night. A bit of

a distance. Muchismas for the invitation. The fact every time I'm going to my time I feel like

I'm a pasto very. That's nice, that's actually, the family nocturna in comments

is like you know, you're part of the family, brother. So it's a good to have this

this this platicada and to say that what chido that we've the opportunity in agendas

to be able to put us this day because a second I've had a little bit more a episode

that's going to be going to because there's there's much there there's a

we need that we we're going to but there I've got to say to this is my compadry

way no, no, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

and is I need I need for the in this first story that I'm going to tell you I'm a

disculpa because I need a self-censura if I'm trying to do the story very interesting but there are

words that definitely not I can't know how and I'm going to that we're clear of here the good

Paco also I'm to ask if you're getting to if you're and I'm you're saying

you're saying this is this relator this relato occurred and has a much time. I know

a person that's in the place. And he he says, that is a story

that has told never to media because it impossible to tell to the media

of communication for so we we're doing this intent of that if

he's but that is one of the anecdot that for him

are the most impactants that have been is a person that has

a necotics because during many years of his life he dedicated a little a little so much

so you can know what is no no no but thinken in two things very,

very oscuras that the media that the media all the time they're

that we're saying they're they're they're they're not we're doing

we're we I'm referring to that he has been in the I don't know but he knew that of that's a

little in miscuit there, minimum, but this is a little, it's history antigo. Okay.

Very well. The first is that this occurs in other city, but in other city,

neither in your city, and in my city, and we're going to say places in this

place. In this place, there a brujo very, very, very known. because, we're

that his friends were friends were very malitos. And these friends were very,

very, really, many, little, they'd they'd fichita's, and many

colors that they had you had to you'd give us experiences about

a locochonas. And with those fichas of colors and colors, with

those calls had many was, where is, but, right? Yes. Yeah.

Well, this a brucho one day, he'd to try to more amigit that are part of these

people, and they say, help them, for favor, because I've got to have got that they're

that we need to be in an order specific. So, so I'm going to give these

bolsitas and we going to let us and give them and they're a good

because, as was a broho, in that my mess, I have my polvos

magical. And those polvos magicos not can get easily and can't

and you can't per is a story of yeah, so. Very good. Standing in this situation, in those contos, in these divisions, someone's a very extra in a lot of the state. There's a matter of And even It's a

How you know, how you know, and he's to get a read to go and go ahead so it's

whatever so you go back and you have the face to look but when

you know but when you start the time because many fichas she does

know of this and he says but what what what what

what's the statue? The statue was a demonio of an one

180 of 80 of 80 of ancho, that had, let us a baston,

a enormous baston, and it was very, very a mattoe that would that

that's so, so I think it's a baston of a of a man,

of, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so it's a , it was a,

a statue, of a which I can mention to practically nothing

even even better than the baston. And is that the rostro

was enegrecrecy very enegrecis the person was to

the person he was so that he then he said he

he said for the rostro inegres no I look

in the factions he he's a you call the

the question and so and checkal and Fickate and revise the factions.

He says, nothing more, a commentary. If he's a tallyed. That's, that is a rost. He says, nothing more

that he's he's got so, so if you want to say, then he's so he's got it. He said,

for more that I'm moving, it was like you're looking a white no,

no, but if you were the factions there were a question of the

light. It's something that I've never ever ever seen. I've been to see. I've been to find that we've got to with magic of the most obscure that there. He,

he's then he's going to the story, the work. But this we're going to to be to turn. Because in

that moment where he's, he's he's a back to his mess, that had decided that his mess would

be the the most important of all. And in that the the door principal

is a break a and we say we're in a group of people that are that are

so they're doing that they're and they're a uniformed they're all all armed and they're

to all that they in the piece to make in the things because they're all those fiches and for

all the polvos magical of the person. It's to be to be

extrano this person, that he's in the piece in enced, with the hand in the nuka, he's been doing much and doing his orations, the person is with his

juggete, with his resorter of a juggete, he's just a resorter of the juggette, but no agar those

poloos and nobody to take the fiches. And then then they're to ask what they're

and the duke of the house, the he invited those amigued those amigued, he said,

well, is a reunion of my people, I don't know for you know, they're not

you're not you know, they're all around that you know, and that you

have fichas, and that you have polvo's and we know, we don't know

those fiches and we don't know, then he says, then he says, then we're and being in that

all the messes, and those fichas, and that they were all the all parts,

caminable, and they were seven hours to do do rations intense and have those

with their resortters in the piece, they're they're they're they're

no, we're we're we're not, we've called a discus. One of

the guards he came to this statue and he he said, and he said,

for you know, he's he's he's the the duke of the

house said, if if you want you talk it and look it.

And, and now just saw where this person he gave many of and he

went, they were, they were, and they went. And here here the part

important and the most of the most what you're what you did you're and now,

and now, you're really, it was like a type of a guardian to

say, He said, I made I decided and I said, he said, he invoked

and when we invocamos he, I, I asked the the major quantity of the power

that could have to the maximum, something, and me he says, if you will be

to be in the immondice always. No important how money

and you have you like in a busuer. And your life

will be a baser. And he said, in the moment that he said, I did know that the house literally was a bit more a little bit of a busurero. I mean, he had things in the facieos, there

things abentated for all parts. But, things, you're talking, things putrefact. Things that ought to be to be in a basurero. It was an asco. The place was arduous. And he asked, what

he said, me, he said, me I said something equivalent to what I said. I said that if

the person that's I'm the most of you, that's that he and he would be,

and he said, but that you're saying, no, I was I had to

give to my own and make to her to get to her reign. And then

then I didn't he's he's in this pact or no, because

I've had the results of having has been a Okay So,

you know more than the history? Yeah, yes, yeah, and, and,

and, and, and, you know, a point very important is, that is

that's that's really, really, many, many times in those that we

know, in the podcast, we've talked this type of pactos,

much people, I know, I know, I know, like, of a game or of

a we're going to do a pact, we're going to because, we're going to we're going to

have a money, we're to have to be a real of the thing is that's a price. All right.

And many times the people, listening testimonies, listening some anecdotas, in so

majority they're doing these pactos when they're when they're not they're not the

minor idea to what they're doing. where are more vulnerable to to get into certain proposals. Valle to be, at the

more, being young, ignores, ignoras, many things, and you know, and you see the things so far as that there, no, no, then we're top-as with a lot of

people that, then there's no way to re-to-rerere. One of them is, for example, the master Juan Ramon Seins, Josue, in a case

very, very known, of the man peluda, of this famous of a program of radio. How he he did all this to to give to his abelita,

he thought because he said, well, my abelita yeah, well, yeah, well, yeah, was a,

so it's easy to give her and it's so when he's to get the changes in his life to get

that not all it was a color of rosas, he, I'm, hey, hey,

I'm, I'm, say, I'm, say, me of here, because really

all, I mean he was, I mean it was, I'm nothing, I'm not

remember that one of the situations that he, this, that the demonio or the deidad

that he had invoked he said, you're going to be to get in a day. So,

you know, you have to get to gett to get to but you can't you can't

do it, but you don't know or doing to do something, you know, doing

works of carid. You have to get to get to to buy a car, let to buy

this, but the money not to be. So, it's how to you know,

you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, apart, and not the torture

that he lived in the nights with those things, that only were, they were

to get to them to get to to but, but also I'm to talk

an anecdote that me yeah, this this Very curious because me let me

a manned a senior that's a master, he's a good, he said he said to

his name but yeah he's he's, he's, he says, he said, he said

a year, and he is this originary of the state of the Garrearer. He has

he has he said that, in all Mexico, well, there are there's

where you are changing of Classes in a place. Then you can use classes in other other place. So,

you're going changing of zones. Here in Guajaka is very typical of that. But he was

accustomed to where he used to be an application of a citas. So he liked much,

to get a place, he was, he said, well, to be a who can know,

recently they've been recently they've changed to the place. And the first that

did, well, take to his application, he to be, to be, to be,

to be, to be, to be, to know, for the chalcotorreo. Saka and he's a point that in the

zone there a man a muchach very very she's she's she's

and it's a little and getting his profile he does that they have much same

that they're between the things that the two they're just then I'm let's

let's see do I'm to talk with her and I am I'm so I'm so I'm

know and he he's to be there's to be He gave you know

that the things that he liked was to be about the things paranormal

and he said he's he doesn't that I'm a lot of a little but I'm never a

other another than a lot so we talk about conversation yeah well

they're they're and they and he me tell you and he make sure

that's more than in the night in the in the night in the

time where they they're there's where they're a and he said Paco, I was very nervous.

She was a kid than I was a major of age, that I, and I lived with his parents. So I wanted to invite her to

at the cinema or to the plaza, no see. And we we'd get to the day glorious and he said,

Paco, I'm prepared for all what to go to do. We had had been some plattica

something that's a chondas. And, um, and, Well, let's say we prepared

in all aspect. He said, we said, no, we'll see us in the place, no, where do you want to want to we're going to

we're going. No, we're going to see, and he's they're saying, he's, he's,

he said, but no I think, or no I think, because we have been a little

more sub-s- to-o- and a more their not-a- and then then I'm

to give to, no, I know, I go. The case is that He got to his

house and he thinking that he was going to pass the most marvellous

of the world and he had prepared a a woman the little

very really a love a person and and he said

well before we we're a platform of streaming

that you know we know we we're we let

make I made I made I said I

I sit to come and the plate and I I'll give the cup

before the before the food to come to my book, I get a pest

horrible. It was a pestilence that I not tolerable I said the food was very

bad but she she was I'm very little serving the food my

my love sitate and this and I'm I'm I'm I'm

I'm that I thought that I'm then I started to I'm

only only only he would bad. I mean it was. It was like

it was like a whole. And this was, ah, he had a lot of

to say he to say this no serve or no wuele it or that you get the the

know, but he he's very uh, because he saw, because he

saw that he was he was doing and he went to know and he's a

first time that's to come no this not it not

not commestible well for not set the question he's a

whole he's a question he's a lot of and she you're going

you're more no no no yeah with that you're yeah yeah yeah

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the

the case is that they're going to sit down to see yeah

yeah and he he said I don't want I'm I'm I'm

so some of some of some of some of the I'm prestem my

bay. But when when I said that I presteed to my like it, like, he's just

he's like, he's just all right to be, and she's right, and she's when I

went to the back, she me kept looking and when I went to I was

I was looking to I was like I was going when I go to go

to go to to go to go I'm I think I was her recamara

and I had things so like like she but the

door was interabird I said me got a curiosity and decided to be able to see a

little bit more he's a so much because I'm sure he's kind of a person

I don't know some a religion but this altar no not had

not not even not images only only only had

I had relas serbas and something that not so

He was He got He got a curiosity And decide to enter To see what is That's what he was That was there And he's got to

And he's a Gat A cat How can't I can't Descruing Uswant Palabras

As you You're all the You've got Aie A toy A toy A toy Ago

Ago Agoe That was In the Mesa The Which had Avertura

from the cooyito to the pancita it had been this juggette and the agon uh he's got it's they're all the algodon

and he hadntro he had two vellas in form of a triangle and a photographia of him

he in when he saw he saw he spant horrible to see this this the

thing on the on the and the and he immediately to the Ganas of mutar,

they went to mutate, they went. The only he did was to get to get to be in the court,

he said, he said, my am I'm, you know, you know, you know, I'm,

you know, I'm going to go, me have to go, and if in that moment, this woman,

the semblant he can't completely, a semblance a sumamely demoniac, a car that's,

he changed completely and only it was me, you you are me.

You are me. He said, I'd gore to the door and I intended to open the door to the manila. No, no, no, I'd be. And she onlyically, of meters, of distance, me seguia, me said, you're me. He, in that moment,

he started to have been very much more than what he had meted to his stomach. Because he's he was. In that moment, he'd log to go to say to there and he's went. Me, he said, Paco, never again to see that woman. I was blocky. But I had a much more fear for what I got to me. The case, and for not

to make a quote so long, is that this person passes for a process in his life as a lot very difficult. He loachaca to the ritual

that this woman did, because here I'm going to start telling some stories that have to eat with

with food. So, he started to have started problems, all he started to get problems in the

job. And only the only form that he he's basically disrenders of all those recurring with

someone that would be to clean his body, but he he said that what he vomita

was something was something because when he starts to make that he was like he was

like a little but the pieces of the carne no me you're to believe

like they like palpitab Like, like Like, no see, a heart

So imagine imagine some a person They were they're in perisos of that were in,

the person he said that he had been, he had been had been had done a work

very that in the moment in the he would that he had to not say

to be not, he would have to have a time in the life for a time of

a time Because that that was in his body is he was in carregard to give a lot of

difficulties of health. The case is that he finalizes this story and I'm Paco,

take him to the person and tell you to the person, you know, you can

see a person you can't see, you know, you know, what is the

intentions of this person. And if me he said to say, he said,

he said, and he says, looking with who can get, but

I've I learned my election. He he dured a process of about a six months until he could expulsed all this. He never never knew to

see nothing of the chick, but just he left to occupy these platforms of, because he had occupied much for what I

knew he was he occupied all the time. Yeah, yeah. Of each, there's there's a

story that has to be with magic black, but never he's never had to be

with these applications. with those with those you know exactly who you topas.

I've done did a experiment in one of these applications people people were like

what's had been their experiences that had had been in the applications

and there was a child who me told and me said I

I just I I retomed the application after

the application because I was at point of yeah not

to tell and I did you what you know what it's that there a little

I'm going to be very similar to what you see you go to another

country go to visit to some family I'm on

my location I'm a I'm a person a

little very very But that I did practically a day before I'm

because I went in this plan. So, I'll talk about to make a talk about

and they get in the contactos there. When I'm my city we're

we're talking. I get a moment in the net I, I'm

I'm I got I had, I had sentient

I had a person and this person and that more

Adelante, he, well, if he was a interested, he could come and

me visitable. So, I, I'm, I'm very, and I said, and I

did, five, that no had opportunity for questions of work,

et cetera, that he not to the job, or the money, et cetera,

but I'm to know things rareas. Of a repent, he was

a little violent, to be a rank rarons. In that we're talking yeah in video

call that yeah out of this application one a person he comes to talk

and he he makes a rostro that never he has he's he's that a

winda I'm I'm impacted and then he's disculpa and

now so with he has he has he he he makes

to say that he he have been, like, mostrated that's that's a idea,

but he's it's a very strange. So, because it's so different, because it's so different.

Well, the situation still being these distellos. Because of those destellers, she

pared the antenas, but there was a the destiny, that was the that was the that was

the ender to know, and he has a day to her city. She's is in

the airport Esperant. When she in the airport. He's he made a message and he said,

he said, I'm going to get to the car, he's going to a hour and she'll get a message

to him. It's all all right, and he says, there's a problem with my

malet, wait a minute, and he a hour and a and she's all the

message, all right. The message he gets, it's be leased, but there no

there's no, there's a reason of a time, and he he's

he made the message. wait, is that they're problems with me for these people, but I said, it's a moment in

that I'd get a moment in the I was eight hours in the airport and I said, also, also, also,

in the last two hours, I'd send to, I was, that they'd be to leter and that

they'd like if had a cellular, and I decided I I'm, the situation is

that there was there was something is that you know, you know, something, something that's

something that's very rar. I'm going to investigate in internet and a friend and a

question that I think the day of today of any of the way in the question

data and for questions facials, you could you've to be a person like

to rastrear a little to the person. Total that you say is that

the part that's that's that's that they were and not they

didn't and not they didn't know that he's problems with your visa I'm

I'm quite sure that has been to be a other thing when

he's he's he's he's he's a person because he's

because he's because he and he and they're they're two

but they're not a and he's and he's

he's he's and after that the chow intent

he he he maybe she then she she

then she I've discovered who you're I'm going to say I said, I said with I mean they're going to be

so it's so is. Yeah. Passed the time. The fact was the time. In the moment

in the moment in the person, we know, we know, we never said that I never never paid those data because in the

moment it was like the point and it was a day of you now I don't have done this person.

But right right you're that you said this story. Yeah. And sometimes you know

you know you're related with Magia Negra that they told them that's super

very very very for understanding the details of the

routine of the day-a-day there. There's there's that can give

much fear for the but there is a part. If you

you think you think you you think you that you the part most important

that is the security in the in what is your sanctuary

and this person he he It's a child. We're a

young to call him Juan. Juan Leid super well in the work in the time.

But incredibly very well. Yeah, has grown and the company the company

it's a lot of money, a can't money that never he was going to get to

get to but Juan, that's he was the money. The

money, he invested very well and finally he finally he got a

really a good house but Juan not the car that

the house of my not romantic. He wanted to live there

and apart that the person, or to get to not rumy but that these

people who were there practically would be their so he was a great because

what he did of the house practically is all and what he

he's not he's a car that's a very very well in a very well

the situation is that a person a a man, very serious, very formal, let me know,

Albert. And Albert, perfectly well, from the day one, that's the one,

he's a click instantan. And Juan me says, but no you know, that's a person

that's a person that's the moment in that I'm I want, I want, I want, I'm

I'm a good person, very honest, he, has, it, has, like,

of someone totally transparent, very amno, a good but at the same time,

very serious, of those people that you talk is very a good, but not is about about hours

talking, then he was he was perfect. At the final, he has all the data to do the

contractation of the place, he said, what I to tell, he was two years

after that he is living there, never was a problem, we were more sporadical,

and we A one time in the situation of the company, I travel much much. I live in the plant of the

plant of the area of the two parts, one of the fourto, as caro, of a repent, or a repent,

no, and in the other, this is this a chico, Albert, he has been a good rato, and he's

a good rato, and never had been problems, then then I have been to be like to someone

to be a year for three months out of the country, and I do the the

of my house and I say, I'm just a certain time, I'm a little bit of that the

things are to be in and not faye something. Like, a fugue of the house that's

a little that's been back to be a disaster, a fugue of a gas so so so he

just he says, he says, every time, for every time, for go over and

checka, that no, if it's no, perfect. Regress three months

after. he's top to Albert, to give the keys, but from the moment one in the

that I'm in the thing I'm not the not the mueles all it's exactly

exactly how he had done, but in limping. Alberto had taken the

molesties to clean the place the place there was no no

no there signos like telaranae and things that if you do you think it is a

impeccable but it's I was a strange. It was a like if were getting a place

to be a place in that's of a person. It's a, it's a sense that maybe

some of those of the people who can't get to the place and not you're not you're not

the situation is that's my house. The only is the that I'm the end of the

I'm just I'm doing in other rhythm, in other places with other way

to live so when just I'm just I'm just going to unse

Ponce. Pass the the first semester I'm a lot of now I'm not my

house but I'm to develop like a fear I'm trying in the dreams

I'm I'm in the work and in the time all all they're all all of

a car like of people people who have always people who have been to be

with a car like just gusgandom. And that makes feel like, they're going to, the dreams. In my dreams, every occur in things more strange. Appearce in persons that no

know I know. The persons that I know know, so they deform the rostro. I'm, I'm going to have occurred, and is that I'm going to perceive olores while I'm, and I'm dormit and I'm doing, and I'm in aromas, like, a

podrido, a webbordid, a basura, a, the aroma of a of a that has much time the same

that's an awful those fructs the of that's a humed and I'm he's

and I'm he he's a house and my house no that's

but in my my dream is saturated of aromas

as askeros and this I'm I'm so I'm to

start to start to get to something I'm a

got to get see more urania, a legada of the people,

I'm more more irritable, no I'm so much and I'm to be to be extrano. I'm going to

do that I'm going no, I'm don't know, I'm going and I go and I do this

and when we're going to scourb and scourn about my my, of my experiences in

the last years, including in my fans, there's absolutely nothing

nothing. No we He says, it could be a burnout. It could be that the job you're going to

and it's that you need to need to and I'm I'm sure, I'm trying to get a lot of but I'm

to feel more fear. The situation, because I'm a day I'm doing I'm don't know and I'm

to hear to hear pastes into my house. When I'm literally

literally, he said what I don't I can't even the day of today of I think

is my Cerebr I'm just going to me I'm going to be a sombra enormous, but media transparent

like if it's like a little capucha or capa very great that it but I

can't see a but it's a sombra so it is a see that's that's

front of my camera he is coming from the court I'm I

I'm I'm and I see coming and see in a certain part of the kitchen and act I'm

going to go to go ahead. If it was like a dream, but I'm sure that that's not a dream. I'm sure

that if I had been had been came, but, well, I'm going to my camera.

And it will be to go to and it's a day I decided to get people to get people

to do this and they're doing a little, and they're saying, someone who's

is working. Someone here to work. So I said that no, no,

no, it's not no, it's not the other department is he had been

in clinton, but are literally, literally a two days, a day, two days, a

one more, so the other is a other is a two years, car that's,

they're they're working, and then the person to realize, and then the a part that was where

he saw the end the end of the cell. He said and see it at the door of the and see in the

quarter of the room of I had to enter. This is to a person of a person of

a door. I'm going to the door I don't put it. It's me made

very strange because it was an alfomber that was a good and it says, result that

Alberto that day not is and as Like, I see the alfomber, and I'm just desperated

and I'm a navag. I took a guy and I'm going, where is the part of the thing is that

there's a and then I need to do this and then. When it was the person that was to make to make a

little, he said, with the navage I'm, I'm, I'm and I'm

to be pure symbolismos that comeian there and they're like

sparsying in the piece. Then then check that cajone. Abre a cajone, and the cajone is

full of things that are things ritual. Cues, vellas, polvo, et cetera. And then

I'm to say, Albert, he mando a photographia and I say, what the carho

is going to be to be to be there. Never. Never. Never. Never. The papers

of the documentation. All right. All right. false. No I don't think idea that

the person that was there me said he said he was going to do you it's obvious to get

to be to the process he said but exactly what was what he did what I

didn't because I never had seen these symbols in no

I don't see that that person fiat that no no I don't

know but you mentioned something you but I think

one of the reasons that they want to do do a job is for a sentiment

and that's a sentiment in the majority is envy. Because someone who you

have the other sentiment can be a vengeance but the envyia I think is what has

to have to realize this type of actos that to start the number one and I

want to I want to say to say to say it's not correct

that you do you do you do it you don't think you do I do it,

I mean, yeah, I mean it's a consequence, like it's a thing, it's, it's a

thing, and if this person who's who gets, who's, because that's because that

that's going to tell a story that has a story that was a person who

was a person who to do, and really actually, so, so, they're

two stories, that have to be the consequence to do do it, come, come,

for This person This person me says, Hello, Paco, is a woman,

the I'm a man, he's a he's a he's he's he's

past it yeah 15 years. No, he passed to her he passed to his papa.

Yeah. They used earlier when were in Mexico in the state of Chiapas

he he said that all and he started when his father when his

father was a engineer and he was a to many companies. So,

so he's a idea something a little maybe, or discavelled, but his

papa he would not employ and then invests, but he put a new new

a business, then when he's his situation, he'll his liquidation

and he's his business of his in a project and he

he made his own his own brothers, because he had two his father, he was

professionalists, they were in this profession, he said, and they said, how is possible that a man of

many of many, now, he was going to get to the life and then she said,

she said, she said, she said, and he said, and at past of four months, the

business of the papa he's to have to have much excellent, and not we

we're going to go so I'm going to go to my year my

father was a remodeling his local and he was a nothing to open

a second succursal I'm was having a great great she

she she she there there there and his

family and his father he said and you

see how they he not a more better

than a better than all you see a more a woman

than you like you like you like you see to do and you do you

doing so so I know so I'm to a no see

to cause a sentiment between but it was to be to

the women then so she remember that all

they all they all and they was there

was so they were more you said those

her spouse. So, she she said that they didn't have a

good relation to them, they were a family political, but that they were

that she had that way, that was that all that was all that they were

really were so they were they they were to be a local,

they said that they're really that really, she

really, she she experimented things very rare something that he

never had experimented. He had a dream that was a very darkerent.

He was in a little bit of him behind of him he put a bottle in the box and

he was to be to bever to bever to he in the time all the

times that he was he was he was he never I never He said that was

someone but as he was he was he was he was only had his

hands and the hands said that were some very arugas that they were in long as

and he had gotten the rostro and they were to impin that bottle

that that's he said so so but the grand

man strange that is when he when he he had

felt a much a book and when she was a mirror in a little

a mark very profound in his lapes of a box of a bottle. So,

that was really out of normal. It's possible that I'm to start

to have the mark in my book that I took to be

put in a bottle and she she she said that in that the

lapso to the He started to pass many things raras but

about the worst and the most is that during those those

next months the things economically were changing primarily

the things were back and there never there

was his father's a to a tos a moment

he he had much many medications but he

had that a toss, a tose very very recurrent and they're at the point in that his father,

with all the heart of the heart, he had to have to be a person, he was he had to

give to his family basically, and they had to have been to have been able to

to be able to to assist but he thought, he had like the idea that this

is to change, to be to be really to get to really to get to

that racha. But she said that the things were still better than the three months

after three months after they were to spend their vehicle to be able to pay the rent of the

first local. I mean the basically in nothing but his father had

that that idea and and he remember that in a family

the the guys and those the people they said

they're particularly in tone of burla what did what

so better make a paper. It's, for the least to work to work.

Yeah, he's a dream a person to create and be a personer, to have to be

a employer. So, yeah, minimally aobrero and gannate the life well.

She said that she would be a lot much but it would be a much

to be a to be to be to the mom too, but they didn't

not they're they're they they're a man a a man

a a man of that in the city there was to be a event a religious

not we're to say basically that religion but it was an event religious is of

these movements where there there's there he said his father was a

greatient but that not not so to think that in a

time that all he was so he was so he's

so in that place. The fact it was all very beautiful, the

songs were very beautiful, the I'm very beautiful in the environment.

But there was a moment where one of the people put the

hand on the head of my father and my mom

and all my brothers we were we we're

not the the and the face to show

to to take the people, it's to turn violent.

In that moment we saw how there's more people to try to calm and one of

them to do you do a drink a a immediately we've got that he

started to forceigeer to us to us for not they're in the

eyes and they're in the I'm saying, I'm think I remember that in

when my papa I've been to omit to omit to vomit to vomit. But at final,

vomit it was a little something. Bomitow like a papelito. He was there in the piece.

And my my papa, after that he got all, he got he was he got.

But when I decided to see what is that, I see that was a stampita, chiquita.

And what I can't to be is that was that was that the of the

santa murder in that she was she spant much because she said

that all this bad what had passed was to be a

work that they had had been to her for for

her and that the things were that the things she went

that her father she she was another woman

she she me she me He said, Paco, my papa Seveya very different. Yeah, no, I don't have the tose.

But, you know, what extrano, still? Or the surprising? Is that in that same time, the business started to prospering. And the most rare, even, the two

spouses of my stools, one, perdi, her baby, was expecting. And the other, they took to operate to emergency, and they took

the matrix. So, the two spouses were very bad. My kids took

costs furs my father gave to the conclusion that was this

derivative of the envy and a part of we're we've to live to the

United. Yeah no we're we're because we're that they

are that they're not good for us they're they're

they're they're Thank you, we're doing. But, but, but, but I want

to share this story, too, as a big example, no, of what he could cause to

occupy these artes mysticas, and over all, like, to the whole, it's a really,

you know, you thinks that, you know, you've been what you've to do you do you

do this but you never know, what can what can happen when it when it

can't let's imagine to put a baby and that they keep in,

basically in the matrises, we're about things very very very

things of the health. I know I'm about what about the but I'm

about the that's what she gave me that's parted. Yeah, yeah

I'm thank you really. It's horrible horrible in all the things

this yeah see that the question of the of the Santa

Morte I I've heard I think various of the episodes in

those I've that I when when I when me generated in the sclerofriots,

they have to be with this, with this, I don't know how to call it, the entity, no? Well, the identity,

not I know, because I've asked to be a lot of people. This is a interesting. And for this

I want to say, if you you're devote, no, the commentio not to you,

is that I'm curious and I'm so, and so, and that has to be with that,

it has to have been that, I'm a person, that they're in that, I'm

I'm asking. And of the response I go Armando, I'm taking my criteria personal. And in some,

not know really to what they're really to be really interesting. A point? Because, yeah, have been

some, I'm not I'm saying, I don't know, even how they're the representatives of this

credences, if are not a sardot or ministers, or I don't know how they're the same

so in the thing, but are people that are, so, They're in some moment of

of their life or for family or for a situation in the someone in the

people who they recommended doing orations. And in those orations in those

petitions that some did some did not not and other the

things were bad as in many of those the

things spiritual to to there I have asked

well really really you you think that that entity is like the and some

me have said, yes, definitely. And others me have said, and when I do I, I'd say,

I'd say to, I'd say to know, I think, is a little more. And this is the form in that's

that's but it's but it's something more or negative. And me say, no,

I know, but even when we've been done of votos with because various have been

in situations familiar. It's that are some of the stories that I'm going because if there's

there's there's a there's what I'm what we've we've been we're going to do you

do you so I'm going to do a much detail but he says there's there

there's that's kind of that's kind of if all the time

we're we're talking stories of the stories of the says

but the conversations that we're not some of that type and no

we're not we're not of that and it's a thing, but it's a sensation all the time,

it's a kind of that's that's a lot of to do, to some. So,

it's interesting, it's interesting that time in some moment I think it I'm about it

more to be this episode to talk two stories, Paco. I'm

with something normally me I'm I'm so that are

things, and so are things, that are, so, But now is a television in

that I never I've seen we've seen let's see it's television Chilean and there's a program

that's like a daily show of these that's that are and they're different parts in notices

and in other moments are games and things and in the section that I see

there was a person that they called the professor was a kind yeah

of So, so, I'm a major to 50 years. If I'm

made a doubt, a disculpa, but the cabellocano, barbacana,

then also, also, also, I mean, me remontable to be a

years, then a person, I mean, I was a 50 years, and the

rest were the host of the program. And they in this section permitting

that people they were in the in the in the people in

the us about to talk about stories, and then we don't know, we'll get in

a story that would be a lot of, no? It would be great. Yeah, yeah.

Is there you? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so, yeah. Yeah, we can't, but in the

program they're they're and they were made rare as because mentioned them

that not I had heard. No, no, no, no,

no, I'm the one of the one, they're some, they're they're

a little I'm said, I'm sure that me made brugheria

he said, but no, not because know, not for you know, but I'm cured.

It's very strange. So, so it's okay. What's what? She said that a

day, of a all of the nothing, in the house, um,

I'm no, I don't remember, a domino, and he has

gusanos in the eyes. Uh, exactly. Gus little, guzons

little of color black and I caused a a sensation very disagradable I don't

see, it was a feeling and it was it was made and it was made and it was it

was done a a sound a yeah? You want to check or all right? I thought

I thought it was that I got the the audio was it was the yeah

was the yeah that's that I'm that I'm that I'm so I'm

so I'm no I'm yeah Paco, yeah I said, that me

started to talk the door. No, when's when, boy? Yeah,

we. No, right not I'm super, super fresh because it was

after that they were after they're all of the house? Yeah. All right? All right?

It's all right. It's not a car, so it's just kind of macabro, and then

I'm just, I'm pretty a pure invento. I think I don't so far if it was

two or four seven or but it was in the transcurs of April. And, of

a repent a day I'm here I'm editing to the side of my studio

I'm a place that's like a little that's no there's

a there there's there but it's but so so not so no

so and I okay okay okay okay I'm I'm

I'm I'm I'm nothing I'm I'm I'm and I

I'm I'm like I like I and he he's so but yeah

it was like very rare because it's a sound very specific in some in some of the other hour.

All right. So, it's a little but all kind of all right but all the thing. What you occur in this

program then when they call the person and about this of the person and it says that the day's the

next to the hospital, it's a get it, they're they're not they're they're

they're they're they're they're not they're they're a little fragment of

the little of the eye, he curate well, the eyes and they're

very well. She has a part of those gusanos in in bolsita of those who could remove

for she myself. Yes. And no they're what's the doctors they're saying

or no, no, in your studios you're doing, or no, no, we've been to get

to their back to his house, will be to pass the same, but no there

in the house that they're provoking and nobody more has this type

of effectation and nothing. So, it's it's a very creminted of questions like esoteric

he says, you're going to recommend a friend with her yeah, because what you're going to what you're

if it's demoniac. So, moveete yeah. Contact this person and this person

and say, we're going to do a church, go to a water and get the water

and I want to the at the instant and I've no I've never to have never to have done

any a problem of this. And in the hospital did you do you're the

revisions and me they're not any explanation so my my eyes

not have been brought those gusans and that and that and

they're that's that's good second case rapidissimo a

person one a person comes to something to something

like it would like the little to to develop deformities in the

back. Casse no can't get up. It's the day there. So, his state of

his state of his state of complete. And a day, the, no see if it was the husband or the mom,

but a person very close and the person who says, you know, we're going to get this

colchon. We need to change, we need to get to you to get to also,

when they're when they when they're when they start the arena of the one of the

end of and in the arena, I try gusano. So, I said, I'm, I'm put to y'rower,

I don't know why, but I put to and I'm and I'm going to get you're in the colchon, outentro

they found mchones of the hair, cusans, and there were more things that's a

thing, it's a work of a work. So, this is a work of a work, he's

he was on the colchon to and I I don't I don't know of

because I don't I can't I'm going to go. I'm in my house and, and of a sudden, coincide with the hour that incendiered

in the colchon. Okay, okay. Until that's, even, no, no, no, no way, to do you know,

they were to get to incendiary in some place. And coincided the hours, with that she began,

she said, when, then then they then they've been to come to, well, me, me,

I've been not been to be able, I'm, no, so, yeah, Right, right?

A few, I mean, you know, I mean, you know, let's put some liquid for that this

preender and no? No. So, so, so, so, so, so,

so, so, can't get, but it's, but you did this, and with that that story,

I'm to give to let's that, that's story, also, we're, in extra,

an normal, the podcast, and it's the first story that me get to me to the

Brugheria that has to with the Santa Morty. It's, it's the first,

it's the first. This, me let call her a little a little,

and me and he and he talked to not have a, not have much,

she has to do the state, is of New Leone. Ah, yeah?

Yeah, it's there. And I said, yeah, and me said,

and me has been in a family very Catholic, she and

her and his brothers were very creyent and she was in various

groups of a person that's a person that's a very active in the religion that's a thing that's a

she said that's a little bit of a little bit, she was getting a relationship and so they were a vogue. At the few days that she has ennobos,

she started very bad. And, and he started to live things, to what she had no

he never a logic. The most that was that was that was that's in a

time of an hour of with his group, he did get some but these gans of

she's not that's nausea. So it's something that he had that I said,

and I'm sure, I'm sorry, I'm going to my boyfriend, my nephew, my

my friend, my my name, what I'm so it's a liquid a good, so I

know, I know, what was what was this? And she said that after that he's

started to get to get a much a time to come and she

had much a lot in many parts of the part of like if were fractures

almost. They started to get a many places and something that's much contrast with what you

say, is that the doctors don't have nothing. So that's rareissimo. And they

got to a diagnosis of a mental. Between there, for example, there's

there's a problem that's myelgia, me probably. Ah, so then they said that

was the reason of those because really really, uh, no

I had a causant but her but those the are very very

very she she did the capacity to come in the because

she said that her and all the time she was but

something that was that in the madruas I

I had how they they was something on

some on not was a question of that's a question of that's I mean, I mean, I mean,

really I'm sure the salambers and then the morning to get to mark. So she said,

okay, this is too supermating. The people in the church in the church, and the

thing was a lot, she said, she had to study her. His relation continued.

The man really said that she always said, that she had much, that she had a

much, not the also in a condition very strange. I mean, so, really,

his health was really, was really really was really bad, too, also, also, also, in their

environment. All of the whole, was, well, was, she was, she was, the details

more repeated, of that all the nights, that, so, something,

I was, I was the word, but, we'd say, the she, let's,

let's, let's, let's, let's, Gave to be an entity is a an entity

very grand that was with her in her in the situation and that when she

was she was that she had had to have these attacks

to a person a well if you not there's

no there no they're to they're to make they're

to they're to do to be to say I'm

well I said I know I I said I saw that

existia, but my faith not in that but I'm living the infirno that I'm

that's a good, so what I wanted to be able to this. I said, I'm going to

visit to people who were all that were something that was that I'm really

really. I'm to where they were in a when they were they were

not, I didn't even even didn't even didn't know any name

or nothing, I mean they were in them and they said, I'm going to help out of the

and it's something that's not a one or two were many many times I'm going to be

and he was looking and was a person that was good and said he was good he's not he's good

to get to get to get to you, not you don't you can't get there

there. So it's something really and it's repeatedly many times and they

were and with me I knew I had I had had been a experience I thought

I'm going to get to I'm going to this was no I'm a solution but me

talked about a man that I lived at the outside of the that me was

a madrina and that's nobody knew that he was a and he

was to be at the outside of the city we passed

we just some some some he was a little bit. In what he

was the same reaction so he was that you trys that's that you're he said

he said why I'm why the people and why the people you're to find

to you to this entity to the Santa Morte you you are

an offrend for for her and if someone quita

the offer of the altar You know, you imagine the price that will pay. For that

nobody is a try to take the offering to you. It's something that me can cost

the life, but I see very bad. And my, let us my, let me

do you do it do for help. I don't go back. I don't no,

no, no, he said, he said, he said, the He started a ritual before

to enter to her at her he did one only only like he's

he's he's he's and he yeah when he took about she

she he he he he started to her

and he started the vintra and he said that

she he has also she he he didn't he had

had given the fertility the the opportunity to be

the So he said, this is he got a reglough and he started to do this

work and they're doing a moment in the moment in the in the that this is

intensified she and he has been to be that same liquid black

but here here the part abhorosa in that's there

isca go and guasas and black so it was

something that she was something was really was really what was

going and she he said she said she she's that he in the

piece no he's how much time it was she only

remember that she was she was she was trying to get to get

everything the only the he was the he

did this he did a person he he described

who she she was she was saying was

a and he had offended to her and said unfortunately this is he to be back to get a

sorry for that this much but this she will be back and then you know

that's said in that moment I felt very well I said I felt that my

my my I we wanted to do the he said the sir

he said no no is really if you want to me take me me a he's he not

he never he was well, we went and we went. It's a couple of and a

my mom and I and I wanted to give a offrends to the sir,

I know a dispensita and we went to get to get to go back

to where he was to he was we got to we've been that all the sir no,

the sir not he saw them and they saw that into the so the

the muele not they did he's he's he's What's what happened? No, there

house but if had people that were people that were about, I see, about and they're

and they asked, oh, and Don Isidro where's the person? The people only gotcha

the head and said he said Don Isidro died a few days. How? If we

we've been a week and days? Well, more or that time they said they're

found the the man holged of the The I mean, he he

saw he didn't they'd know the people because the same the same

the same they were to know this olorcito very characteristic and report to the authorities

this that was what was what they were to have the the

sir the sir not he was the the because you say, is that I'm sure

that was the reason for that nobody me kissed to help. And I'm sure that that was the price that he had to pay for sanar me. And really is something very tricky, because the Lord

he did with the best intention of the world, of the best form. But as, as I said in a question, this,

this can cost to the life. And a past that we we thought we that had liberated, not was that you

You send this story and, and I'm that the people also the kind of the

type of work. No, manches to I know that's the first that I'm this type

of anecdotes where we about we about a thing that not it's not it's like not it

a little a little a little the entierro to photo in the panteon there,

I mean we're we're still more more more more of so sure

yeah that that there are there are some data that I

know in some I'll know. I'm going to let's let's go you're

that you've put in in practices that I've have been in practice about this story.

I think is one of the stories more difficult to think to create I have

to tell very the context in how it did. One day we're

having a practice various people that we're that we

got this thing and he's unio the father of a

father is a person a person a person is a person a very very

at a tirabusone you say you say it literally literally calliada

observe and it never never and so no and so

you know and and of every we're going we're

going to I think I'm going to be that's to be

the good and at the final me I

can I I said, you say, and says, is that narrator, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, you know, these things.

And you say, they, they're, they're, and I'm, and I say,

so, so, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, when I was a

little, that's, I'm, and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, So, no I want that after this like we talk about the thematic. No,

I want to you know, my my son, no, I know, so I'm, so you know,

not, you know, you know, because it's something that this about this, you know,

I'm going to say, but it's a couple that's very, but it's a story,

and so, I don't talk of these things, because I think, that something that never

to understand that was in the angels and and demons were put for me I think

that's me I'm talking. How is that? And it it's that it

was I was not so of the day of I know

I know I'm to have to be to that that

I said it was very potoro very parlanchino many

many I me I'd like much the first. A day

a company of the faculty that he's not he's

and for the we're we're not he's because he's

he had been his life he he he

was he he's he's he he's he he's

not so he's so he he he's a

car a he so when he he not you're different. Different, not

Tristan, different strange. Newions painted of black. That's in that time, not was normal and not was very

very attacked. He said. And he was like, and he was a lot about with the top of

disaliened, but he saw it with an air in a little strange. I got

with him, he said, and I'm he said, no, is that yeah, you know,

yeah, I'm, I'm just more Libre and he like more Libre

Dises that's that you know she's she's a so no no

she was she she was she was she was she was she she she was

she never was like I'm she never she she didn't she she

she's then then so the really is that I'm not

I'm I'm so let's see a day we're to do she's

she Invit me to see what I've never seen that I've seen. And me topo

a mess very in the there obviously things that you do you

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you know, you know, this is your house, thank you a all of you

and the day about your afternoon and that's a birthday,