HABLEMOS DE LO QUE NO EXISTE - Vi una persona levitar con mis propios ojos | FT. CARLOS SAUCEDO | EP 138

Episode Date: November 21, 2023

Carlos nos comparte un descubrimiento escalofriante en casa de sus abuelos ¿Qué secretos ocultos se revelaran en las sombras? Bienvenida Familia Nocturna a éste nuevo episodio de @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE en donde nuestro invitado Carlos Saucedo @csaucedol nos cuenta experiencias en donde experimentó el terror en carne propia, presenció manifestaciones extrañas en personas cercanas que prendieron el "switch" de lo paranormal; historias familiares de apariciones, sombras y de un escalofriante descubrimiento en casa de sus abuelos... asi que prepárate para que @HABLEMOSDELOQUENOEXISTE

terror, fear, be all the thing. Oh, you've seen the phantasm? He was she

completely accostated to be over and she commenced to get to get to the sun. Welcome to

Family Naturna. Let me say, let me say, and I said, and you have some that's true, is

correct. I've got two, three stories. Two, three stories. Excellent. What do you

do you do you think? If, to be to give the best to give the

time to come you and Right. Perfect. Enchanted. This story is of, okay,

I have to give a more a context that the family nocturn. It's possible that this moment you're

in much a lot of and I don't say that no, the people believe that I think you

I'm sure. Okay. Why? No. So, you know, you know, me are in front,

they're not franco is camilla I'm sorry. So, so, right, in this moment, and for the

barbae and this, see, and I notice many differences in that part. We're talking of one. So, a one.

Yes. One, no. So, for, to say, for, for, say, for, what you're saying

Charlie is false. No, I'm a barba and they say that I'm morano. There are many of

those episodes where they're going to know, but look, Charlie, there's that I'm

that I'm that's Camilla. Okay. And there there was a thing, a I'm a question,

because I'm interviews in, in, months atras, I'm toped with he mentioned in various

occasions, that he is very me me, he's not, those things, no, no,

those things, no, but his reaction, to me generate a little of the

because I didn't, I said, this type is, he's front multitudes, a stadiums,

there's there, arenas jenas of 15,000 people. Sure,

situations controversial of You're at the moment to have a channel that's a different and so a lot of

the world but apart a lot of people a lot of a television Yeah, totally. Grabb in

live, a quantity of a lot of a lot of people of so know, then it's a me

so it's a not it's the person, he's the he's a particular. So, then I put

in Degger and me topo with that he has lived five soceses and that

the five suicides that have lived on have been in been in I'm in a question.

This is just a hypothesis, a inference, I think the those sucesos paranormal are

going to their family. And that's what he said, that's the thing, I mean,

it's like, it's like, that's the thing. Because I think before I didn't have

a lot time, so much, it's a lot this episode, you'll go contando the socese

paranormales that I'm going to tell you know in order chronological because from the first is very rare. Okay.

Frankos Camilla was to where I see and where I've read. If I'm talking about, for favor,

put in comments. He was he was too. He was correct. And in some moment,

they were to go and he went to a house of retires, I don't know where I know where it's

beled very because he had desveled much because he had done a belada to have been

very, very disveled. He's going to go to do the and there's a little and the bigito

is labing to be able to and then he's a talk about and Frank who's a little a little

a person major, he's like yeah, I'm like yeah, I'm here so I'm

so yeah he's and he and he and he he doesn't and he there's

a person and I'm not there was like that it was the staff and said

ah you've seen the phantas Wow. The guy The senior

Mayor, he's been since a year, and it's a time that's he's a year,

but I don't me say that's that's a he said, he said, and when I'm doing a memory, I go the

chorro of the water for the hands are not those are not normal, I'm

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not so. Then, then I did more whiltas,

but, so I, he, and he, a phantasm. then then he or so,

so they confirm a man of certain characteristics if they're in this mania, and a little and they're not and they're not

and they're and the hands they're not so they're so much, socese so that's one of the first time

this story Charlie, for favor. It's incredible because well the people that we're going to

be able to think it's we've been to put us to the day in the hour to be here to be

the hour to but not we've done anteriorly the possibility to talk what is what we

going to talk about so I'm the attention that the experience that you have a previa before before

to enter in a little a bit more with what I want to hear because I think you I also

have experiences paranormal but also related to a religion and also related to a species

of a movement Catholic I'm you think you said I'm you mentioned

I'm a moment that my family is practice the religion

Catholic quite intense, very, very intense. And in a certain occasion,

my papas me inscrib to a movement Catholic here in

Monterrey because they were very interested in that I would be a little more of

knowledge, of God and all that time. So, then I inscriber to a

movement Catholic where we're a group very great of people,

around of 100 people or more. Okay. Dividied, half of

men, midas and then to know that this movement what was what it

was was that you acutious to a a, and at that time, you know,

you're to have to have meetings every Saturday, so constantly until

to get to a period to a period of seven months, a and then

another retirement spiritual, and so it was the dynamic around of five

years. So, in the first encounter, you know, that's a total of people of people, and at a part of there, you start to, to be a,

to get to the person. So, so for the second, third, fourth, or retiro, well, you're just,

you're, with a whole, a group, in many aspects. Sure. So, so it's

so it's been that we're, in this, in this movement Catholic, and we, we had taken,

to, to come to the third or So I'm talking that we're talking about that we're talking about the third, fourth year, more than. And, well, I can't

say that those that we get to that moment, we're people, known of, of, this, that, that, that, that, we're going to we're reunied,

at some of those which, for example, many, many of them still being my friends of the day of today, and that are my friends of all the life, and with

that, I'm going to get to until that me die. The

dynamic, when you, you, you, you, you know, to we've

got to a, a, a, a, a, a, a,

a place, a kind of, a kind of, for what is the

noise, the city, we'd not affect for the moments that you

that, that, that was, this, intense, in, in the, in the

encounters. So, so it was to be the dynamic, more than the day of the day of the

day of the type of dynamics, the day Saturday, and regularly in the structure of those days on the

days of the most intense. Intensos in about the time. Intensos in about the emotiveness,

the emotions that's present in this type of moment, no? So for not to tell you the point more

longer, almost always the days domingos, you're in a moment so very very strong and

posteriorly the mis. And with that you're the retiro and a kind of a time.

So, so it's that in a occasion of these encounters that you comment, precisely the

day on the day of the time, imagineate that we're in a quarter of

a quarter grand, like a sort of dormitory, around of an 80

people, 40, 40 women, 40 of women. And then we started to experimented an oration very, very profound.

The moment of the oration, it was so much so intense, that the person, or, companions' my, that with the day of years, they've got to have

certain experiences that, to me, in the personal, no me had to talk to see them. Basically, it's, for example, of a In the in the

emotivity of the moment you saw you there was people that there was that was tirade in the

soil was like like trying to desohars but but of you you

see you you a company for example he was looking

to a point specific of the or and of a

repent to have having moving like if was

talking with but his seen was a point

in concrete and in all the occasions was a point very

it's not like you, we don't we're seeing my

my mind in this point. So, then you saw you saw a

person was looking so up up and then like

talking with then then you then you then you didn't know,

and of a different to see a other people that

in in They were to talk in other other other

other You know, you know, you know, an experience charismatic. So, for example,

I can't say that, of these people, that are people, that I knew that I

knew that other other then, then, you know, I'm, you're, to be to reactionar. This, the person was totally connected with some of

a situation or entity that not permittia that was depended from the moment in that was so imagine that you're in in a, in a courtroom

with that type of event and the the people that is dismayed and the that is talking in other other other that is the other

So it was practically a chaos, not what they were living. So the people that, for some circumstances, this, no, no, no, we've gotten to that level and that,

just we're, just about so, the, was, it was, it was a, it was a, this, this,

I was, I, was that I, , me, me, to be all the thing because I,

never had had had been an experience similar, in this sense. The situation that most

me surprised and that never more I've ever ever to be in my

life is that one of these other of these people that

were in the moment of the intensity in the emotion that

was that was it had desmayed she was

she was she was she he was to

get to get to levita to then the

the the woman put you that it's that's

a a little bit of the with the but I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to

that when I see that scene like the person that's just that's just to just to get a coming to get to come to

someone or with something of the impact of the impression of what he was living. So the chaos that

I'm going to get to a point very really old because I'd say there was there people that had people that

had people that had people that was levittance, there was people that was dismayed. Then, the,

the same moment, or so, it was, it was, he, it's, to get a

to get to get a moment, that's so they're to get a hours, so,

only you that we had been entered at the last four of the time,

and it at the night. So, so, so, so, is that one

that the situation, we, we've, we've, it, we've, got

a a new moment a control. You this, you know, you know,

you're going to what's, that's, I mean, you could give a reason of what was going to,

that's that's what you said, you're that you talked, you know, you know, you know,

you know, you know, for me, that's, no, for me, this, is, it's, is a part

that's, that's, that's, and when you , you, I, I, I,

you, I, I was, and like, you have the hands and, like, you know, so, is that no, I mean, no, no, I, not,

I don't, I know, I don't, I don't, I'm not, and, well, and much less, a little bit, that's,

that I'm gonna, this, he said, because, you know, that you'll comment, that's experience, and she,

she, she, that, she, that she, that she, never, took in, no, no,

no, didn't, or, he was, no, the, the, we,

don't, no, not, we don't get to that trance, we're those who we're the experience, but those who lived really, you can't say that no,

it's absolutely nothing. So, for me, it's impressive. I never seen levita a person more than that occasion. No, I know if

me to go back to see, in some moment, but of all the what, what, so, is what most me has been impacted.

I mean, I've seen it in my life as in my life as that moment. Your experience is tremendous. tremendous. I recommend

much here that when the people have certain situations like cars infestated, situations where

they're they did they're a person or that they suspect in some type of possession, I always

say, go with psychologist, go, and then they're then they're from their

diocese to some group of this type of charismatic. Correct. But no

I agree to something I do you do you ask them asylated

with a sacerdate that's a man because if not they do you do you

do you do you do you know because of decades of 70s in the States in the

Chicago a group of a of a student of a certain

career in a campus these people are to study a

career that not is religious but they they're

they're they're these parts affin some are Protestants. No, I don't if Lutheranos or Calvinists, but are

Protestants, others are Catholics, but at final, they're done into that they're doing to do do a relation and they're going to and start these phenomena. Never before has documented that. I don't remember right how it's the situation, but manned the

church to revisit the situation and manda a herrote Franciscan. Correct. And he's to document all, and then he says, it's a line so delgated of the

and they're going to start going to do you're and he starts methodologies

the men the chos not they're and then so so there many of day of

day of I've been a big conflict because the the

church that's that's that's the first thing when it's this type

of experience I'm I'm I'm said a good a good play

and and so what did you is something that is something that's something night. I'll give to the invite-tolds that me give an idea

of where they're going to go to the stories to put up to find. But in the case of Charlie, no. In the case of Charlie, we decided just one of the time of we're going to talk, that no has talked. It's correct. And the rest of the stories, no, so we're in this case and in many others, the stories coincide nothing more, but no, no, is a ponenone of

a quarter. Of course, I'm surprised. I'm I was, I'd but well, I'll go. Correct. In this relato that

you're that you're talking, the people that they are the things that people are

that they're that they're a position, it's a need to be a whole study, but there are

certain phenomena that occurren during the process or during the manifestation of these

one of them is the xenoglosia. The person start to learn other that no

know, But also. But also, but also it's where, it's how much, how do you determine, if

is an angelical, or demoniac. Or if it's of God or the devil. The levitation occurs in both.

So, also, also, the abnesia. They're in the amnesias are in those that

are the more care because there people who see, in the success, but they

are when it amnesty, is more It's very because the mind conscientious

really really, but not is there there. There are many manifestations I'm not

we're there's a little there's a episode in that we're going to talk about

in chronicles of the narrator. But the point is that I think this sacerdote

see that's that's that both in the questions malepicas as in

the questions of the things there were there

were there are there where the demon is so to pass for a virgin,

for a Christ, many people posseidas were going to tell stories in those that says that God is that

God is that is that I'm and he's present to me the Christ was in a cross and he said,

but something I intuia the sacerote that said, is that what you

are, no, it's not, no, it's correct. Because it has

to be a congruency with certain things and not an incongruency or when you talk of

entities of moniacas you have done that there's a profile there's a pattern and there's

something that you're going to do you have to be two hundred years and they're the same

one and other again again and again and in some moment the father Gabriel Amor

had a he and I think the father forted also in those

they were they're they're they're they're they're that is that

exactly exactly And the demonel is, and the demonel says, yes, but always works. Sure. So,

they're saying, the perise is part of their naturalness. They're not they're not going to change any strategy and they're perfectly made to do.

To what I'm going is that these phenomena paranormal, a sometimes seem to that is the part more important and really

nothing more on the symptom of that something that's true. And there the determination if it's good or is bad

or is difficult because it occurred sacerdotes posseidos, monjas posseidas, laikos,

atheos, people not creyentes, persons of other religions for the people who say,

ah, well, that's that's not the most of the most of the

people, the people are not Catholic. So, socese. So, how you

reposits this situation, Charlie? It's is that fichate that this

happened a certain a moment. A very, because, as

you mentioned that this, you know you've got a encounter

every certain period of time, but after that's spiritual, you had these

reunions every Saturday, every Saturday. So, the fact,

I know to know to the circumstance has to have a year, because we

were young of 16, 17 years in that in that a moment.

At the more, there were the management not were still

still completely maddural. But you have to count that this thing that I

just happened was the detonate for the postearned that were in situations similar.

So, it resulted to be you, for example, in a reunion of a sabb, in where

the moment of the motion not so, but were in situations very

very similar. So, so, for example, already I'm in the mind,

that of a this, a chica started to talk

different different idiomas but at the time was with the

eyes aborted, but at the point in specific and he took

for example a that had a water and I

put in the and I'm like so like if it

was a kind of a sort of or

is in this in that so circumstances that were presenting with some people were derivated of that soces. So, there was

a moment in that the situation began to be so constant that the heads of the movement had to come

to come to talk to those people in specific and see what was what was what was going to

have a a second more pointal related. So, a raise of

that circumstance, they're to these people with some some other people,

um, also, we're like spiritual but what that's really a attention is

that, for example, we'd have a reunion in my house, and I

say, we're going to do, we're going to do you, we're immediately happened to

a situation like the question. No faulted who was there was a commensable

to enter like a kind of a communication with someone that we're not detected this,

the people would say the people had to talk about in other other languages. So, we've

passed the time and between and we're we're saying that's to know that that's

thing was, that's, that's a thing that was then there were the situations posterior.

For us us we've a moment in that it was a situation

constant, constant, so of then you get a lot of you have a lot of

that you never has never had a experience related to that you and then

then they start to present a situation more constant because I get a

point in that is what is what is what is what is what is happening?

For some some circumstance no and not you know I

never never I've involved in a situation so the

really, and I think to a certain point there's something there's in a moment emotional in general,

I'm that I'm at a frame, so, for not, say, um, to be,

to be, to be a situation that could eventually to get a point of these. So, what,

what I can say is that I can't say, this, I, I, I,

I, I, I, , I, conviv I, convivy with people that that was, convivy with

people that saw, this angel and I, I'm going to people that that affirmed to have

had been about directly with God, this, that in the moment and in the reality

of them, I mean, in the particular, no me took to live it, but,

but, so were experiences about, a very, very very

in virtue of that they present them a manner constant in the next occasions. It's normalized. Yes, for to get it

a good manner. Yeah, you know. It's, because the first situation that you're playing, is something

is something is a lot of so totally. Totally. That's, that in many groups carismaticos,

and this not is a description, it's a thing, and me those have described various people,

but not here in the can't, I, during many years was activist also

into the group Catholic. So I'm during six years, more or less or less

in a group of missions. And from a brazo, for so to say, a group of people who

were so were very involved in the charismatic. I differed much with in their vision of

the things, but it really, it's like I have the very

not the kind of just spirituality different. That's but I came to

me me these socesos in that time where occurred this in the retiro, occurred this in the reunion,

occurred this the Saturday. I know that there are different phenomena. So, there's the phenomenon

spiritual, but also there's a problem where you get to be a person to a sensation of a special. And they're in

these parts compensatoria. Correct. So, so totally. So, so, if you

get a case, if you, if you're to the reality specific of each one of those

individuals in particular, Well, you could disend to some elements common. So, I think that part of that's, that the heads of the movement had to be able to

them and that eventually recommend to them some treatment psychological in specific. Because very probably there was a little and that maybe they found in that point

some element of a kind of a space of a specific that wasa that was trying. And that I get a moment in which you

this, you know, not Suna natural, no, there's forced a

and it's exactly. But the first time I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, what, what's what's

was, this, this, this, occurred, totally, totally, totally. And this

chica, the little, he was, continued in the group after that? So,

so, but never ever, did come to occur to a situation. And, I'm not,

to tell And, of fact, that still after the period of five years

that I'm that I'm because the structure of the movement, I still still ever

continued, I'm helping, supporting, and serving in some many years more years more,

then this, this, I'm involved properly in the manner in how they were to be

some countries in that sort of the evolution of these people, disminuio those presentations of this type of phenomena.

Yes, it's correct. Yes, yes, totally. So, at the grade of that this, well, I was,

if it was, if it was not, like, like, like, as we've been started, before that

the event, yeah, that interesting. Yeah, no, no, this, rarestimit now,

imagineate, all this I'm talking in the context of some chavito of 16 years, 17 years,

so is that, how it's, how it's, how it's, it's, it's, I mean, you know, you see, you know,

and you're like, like, like, he's like, look, look, what I'm doing, this,

how many, of the, um, many, um, know, no, know,

know, they're going to, et cetera, et, et, so, this, see,

I'm, so, is that's the sensation, like, of this phenomenon of this, feeling,

to feel like, so, so, is something so, so, atypigue, that, probably many,

many people is that you're correct. You say, what are in some? And for what? So,

I'm doing this. So I'm called to give to a resignification and a buskid that a lot of that's not even going to be over there. The message,

a lot of but in, yes, if you're doing, because they're part of the situations that

I've lived during many years in these groups. Justly, these are these are situations that were

not had planned for today. In some moment, I've told, but they're to dock.

in the order chronological in in the way I've lived without into a lot because are things that I've talked about in the canal

but the first situation was a situation aterrador in a house in the during many years I

had an explanation until I took with an explanation that you do a different to

what I had been in this house there's there and there there

can't they're a lot of a point I'm a lot of I'm not nothing and

they're in presence. I'm aterrowered me go to be in a broom that you

know it's a problem and then it again. And then it again, and I do you

know, this is an situation inexplicable. The pass on the years and I

still I'm into these groups. And in these groups, the first that occurred

if I did, if they're in the day in a torment and this anecdote that's a very little and we're in

a question in the way I metia a much a level emotional in the orations like really

I'm really trying to connect with something but not for putting an entire like

as a spirit that there had a congruency a connection so then I

was a concentrate much I met much emotionally and that day

there there was a time to me to to do you go to and I'll

go to the chico and I'm there's a there's a there's a there's a little bit of

the door and it's a not, no, no, no, it's not a not, the guitar

and the guitar, I'm gonna go to do you see me, I'm a more, we're gonna

make a car like, what you want, you know, I'll do, well, you're gonna,

well, so I'm, then I'm so I'm so I'm these orations, were a tendency

that we we said in the oration of the Spirit Santo that was

you know, but you do you to do you and it's fluid it simply no,

well I'm I'm and I do you know and I know I'm I'm

I'm listening the guitar perfectly so so bolted with my friend

and it's me kept I'm I'm looking I'm and the roundes and the

door and it's where it's the tormenton and the and the techo no it's like if if you had encapsulated the sound

only in the room, only the only the sound there. The people who are there are the oration, those

that are living are being being are incated one front of but they're eyes and they are getting lighters,

like in a trance very extrano. I don't you know, I, I've been a atmosphere that

not is that, that was a sort, that was very rare, very rare, and he he wrote

with my me go with a What I do? And he makes, I keep talking and with the... Well, if we're in this. We're not in this. It's correct. Well, continue.

And when I'm doing, I'm, regress them all the sonnors. Wow. And me, I'm going to be the shoulders. Like, I don't know. If you don't know, is correct.

And the other people to the second, are in this trance, that's a connection spiritual and how you want to call it, but a type of trance, a state of a

state of conscience different. Yes, totally. Uh-huh. They're out of And they're And they're

Like disconcerted Those No, I'm sorry Absolutely Nothing, Like I'm Like I'm

I've lived Traia many But I'm Yeah, it Yeah, It's like Vivien Yeah,

It's a A bit A bit of Exactly Well, Well, Pace the Time

And in A situation In We've In a A week A One

A week That were That Those Missions normally in Semana Sanda, we're in three events in a one

mission. We're a storm. We're in the torment because they're to get some of the size of baseball. We're seeing that we're going to

cause because they're going to perforer the door in the water in the water. The water is to get to be

the fusibles for that there's going to have an accident with electricity. The things are to get to start

to get to and start to start. There is a piece of the and are about 15

people so I'm totally desperated because I'm at the front of the group and I'm

thinking what I do, what I and the is a huge very high is a very much

about us and it's and only there's a big a big of the thing is a biga

that for the piece of the granis so it starts and I'm going to go to

be down they're in some bigas of some I'm I'm And then I'm thinking what iser,

what iser, what iser, and there we we're saying, this anecdote never he had talked about this I'm respectful of

the creencies of all, but well, it was something and I remember that in that one chick intends to

go to the door, the I have to the vento and I'm there's correct. And the other people

and the other people and I'm getting like the like the door no, payance and say, and get a

moment where I see the Santissimo for those that's the hostia consagra in the

religion Catholic and this we have in a cajita of a little bit of

a and it was something very strange very because it's a so so

so it was a interpretation of the situation but it was a there

was a there was a it was a cause absolute

in a sound of a sound you can't person a

other. So, if you grittas to the o'clock, you know, I'm not

the good for the granisco that was in the techo lamina. There was there

was in the techo and it was a tormenton. The things flotable and it was all full of

water that was in that you in that chaos. And I I'm excited because there

15 people that are to be in my car and I'm going to get to get back

and I'm people and I'm got to I'm 18, 19 years.

So what I I do do with this and when I'm going to the

bell and the bell is tintinian by the thing you and a repent it's just without being and it's

and the moment in the moment in the I feel something something that you're doing the signal

so, mandat and for the and it's a sensation of her no,

it's not going to be something something but it will be and

we're we're all right we're all right in the Santissimo. Correct. It was something very very strange. Because it was a chaos. My brother was there. He was a

with the rostroasted. He had much a lot of the other chicas also. And I was going to be a man that just a little bit of the and I was, I understand. And that was that. That was the very rare. At the day the next, or at the two days, we're going to a park

Charlie. In this park, we're doing a dynamic of aeration and a a of a repent, they're in a car and they can't

a car and they're to be in the red we're not we're and they're and they're

we're we're going and they're and they don't know so I'm so I'm so I'm

I'm going to I'm going to I'm and this I'm this sequence of anecdotes that

I think I can't do anything I'm so are three people try in

an arm arm and and so and so and they they're

and they they're No, no, no, no, no, I can't say nothing. They're going to me, two people who are the most grand in proportion and in the age and all. No, no, no, there's nothing to be here. And they're, yeah, they're going to,

nothing. I mean, I think, I go, God, you know, I'm going, I mean, I'm moving, but I don't, I don't know can do anything. And, I've told to this, I've got a combination of emotions that no is viable. No, you know, you can't

be able to be able. If you're If you're In-tranquil You're In-tranquil You're You're

You're looking To start Tranquillo Tal- Maybe No, not you You can't

be super infocated and desenfocated No you can't be in peace Are you

Are there are Emuctions biologically no can't You can't be a

little and that is to interpretal like the other but not is so

you're You're back the under I'm You had a

division internal in that was absolute, a narrator saying, it's a valio,

madre, all my my sister, the other chas what I'm going to do you know, and it's made, and it was made,

and it's made, a chance of a peace absolute, tremendous. And I said, never had lived this, and I've

ever been to live from that day. It was a chaos total and incerra in a peace absolute.

And that pass absolute, I, I, that not I it was I. Then I said, there's time, there was an exercise

that is, connectate with that emotion and it's flue. That's the meantad of the Spirit Sands. It's correct. It was like, connectate with that oration and yeah. With that sensation of peace. And I remember that just a vanse to them, and I said, goodnach. And they're going to read. The type, the pistol,

is it accommod. And he begins to say, this imbecile. It was he said with other words, but not you can't hear of the and then then I'm

the way and I say, I'm doing, we're doing, we're doing good news. But no, I'm, I'm

going to have a lot, that's all of me was made never, the voice, without a sound,

just was, I'm, just was having a titre, because not it's a person, and I'm, and I'm,

and I'm, you're doing, we're doing, we're doing a reason we can help in something

we're in and in those people this is the situation of the most rare that I've been opened the

eyes, they're doing and they're saying, pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon,

pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon, pardon, for us, oh, on us, and they're

for us, and they're not, no, I'm kept impacted. When, you've been people

maleguola with maledions agrupated and that that they're to make to feel your

fear and you're you're in because they're because they're in the situation. It's one of the situations that even

after the reason why they're not in sense a level rational because they're a group and this group was a

so I don't what I'm I've heard I've heard I've heard various theories, I'm

sound congruentes when a person going to be a malooo is just not more

the appearance of the but for there's nervous, where they were sure, they were

back, and they're going to be so much, but are three. And as the other, those other the refuerza.

Yeah, totally. No, like who says, you know, and you're more and it's more more than that's,

no, in that's, but we're doing. So, but, but well, in these groups, I think in those people,

that have been in some people, have been in a much time, have been been given

contact with more people, they've been having a experience, typical. Yeah, totally. And,

if you're going to my experience the same is a related to with this thing.

But as you mentioned that after the period of five years that that, that,

that, I, in the particular, me, I'm kept a time more.

Being being, let's make a moment in a moment that, in

a organization, in the development, of some encounter. So, in some occasion,

me took to be in a situation very similar in the question in the

same level of the cause as I'm like the I'm but

situate in a space of a space of where the people are sitting in the

piece, as like if it was a u. In where they are

doing a moment of a in the oration. And then for the intensity that you can

considerate, this, for the most those we're involved in this moment, in these

situations that I'd come out, then we we'd very common that a person

to be dismayer, then just almost, almost, almost you are prepared to catch her

and recostar and, and, and, and, and, and, and,

so, there, there, there, there So, this other group, I said,

I don't know that I was the I don't know that I'm not doing to do the, the, the,

the, they're going to get to smy-asers, to some of the integrates. But what that's,

the attention, is that of a, a, one, some, two, three,

four, people, they're in a, start, to make, a, sort of,

a species of a, and a, and, to talk between them. So that

will the attention of the other because it's a little the

little the serial properly of the moment. So when that's the

person of the pastor that was doing the moment, has that

came to the corner to the place to the people. And I

was I was in the area opposite because I only was

observing for if was needed something in in about the logistic of the situation. For me, it was very impetante, very, very, very

impressionant, how you have to know that the sacerote is, it's going to, and the repent, the, the, the chasches that were doing a ballita, and in the

moment in that they're able, the sacerdote, I can say that almost, kind of, in immediate, what is incarce,

but it's a kind of a kind of a a kind of reflex and one of the little of the two of the woman that was exactly in the

corner of that's a file of people that was that was this group he

he he he he went to to get some some some

some some little irregular but what we was really

much the attention is that of a moment

to another in instant, in seconds, he said the little to, to,

as if were to flowers, but no, no, no, I don't, I don't,

you wails a rose, and say, it's, it wwele a rose, you wetted another flower,

and you don't know, an, an, an, an, a lot soavent,

but, no, I, no, I don't still to identify to what

is what is, this, if, if, if, define it or styrar much

the example you'd say has solded a little once a flower of Sempsuchil is the

most like that's like yeah well yeah well

we're we're we're having in that moment a manifestation

of the the the the the she was that was that

was that was that encounter she desmoy when

the fat the in a circle and she inca, the chick, the child, she gets, and then the chick comes to talk, to

send some messages, in general, not only only for the people that we're in, no, but like, for the humanity in general. But what what was a lot of the attention, is that the voice of the

child, not was the voice of her. It was a, so, it was, a tone distinct, that you you'd have to, so, but you you, right, percives my tone and

you can better know, and you do more more more and the more more

so you know, that the that the that the little was the was the

was the was the talking. And so, this, he started, a difference

of the other moment that I'm this moment was more more than kind of

kind of a moment of an moment of the impression but

of tranquillity, as as to see what is what is the voice of this

this, this chick very suavecita, very, very, very, very,

very, very, very, so you, put you attention to the, the messages

that you, that you were, that's, words more, words less, the person

said, that, there had to be we had to try to be the better people, to

to care of the, uh, to those, uh, those, to the, uh, the, people who conformed to, your, but, a me, what I'm really, much, much in the attention is that the, the, the, the, person that's

the person that's, let's the person that, let's say, we're, we're, like, much more involved in situations that can present, he was, he was totally, that was, it. It was, it was a, it was, when, like, was,

a, um, this, listening, obviously, the situation. And it was a moment of this manifestation that the Virgin is specifically to him and he starts to talk directly to him and say, I know what you've done what has done, know the labor, I thank you much, this part.

You know this, I'm asking this, you ask the other, et cetera. And then, then, for us us, it was like, like, this, one situation in the case, I mean, first, you question, is real this is what's what's happening.

So this is this is what's this is what is going to because I'm the same those are the people are the

people who are to be calm that they're a little this is a but here because the situation was

totally inverse, not it was the sacerdot in that was that was the people who

were the others were just just being what was saying. Pallar more, the I want to

to say that this is a manifestation, the Virgin pidged that, that he was made a kind of a statue or or of a capilla for her, something

that posteriorly so, so, so, and, and, and, and a part of there, then, so, it's, it is an anecdote, as, like, a, like, a

story of those that pass, of boca-in-boca, of generation-in-generation, with, with, the, of, to generate some empathy in the sense of saying,

Oye, the Virgin, he wants so this movement that we know this, the Virgin this, we know,

we know, we know, and we said to this, and that a, uh, uh, a part of that

situation, uh, said, these circumstances like the comment about a moment, so,

the, the, the, this, documented the, the, the, so,

there, I suppose, I suppose, are people that are people who are specifically a through some methodology to investigate the success and identify what happened here, what was there, et cetera, et cetera,

to the grade of that they considered that from the perspective of that moment was considered a situation real that happened and, then, so, it's a kind of a kind of a manifestation specific, documented that's what happened here in Monterrey, in New York.

So, I, of that I'm the, of that's the most characteristic for me is

never I never have to know what was the moment, you know, and not I've

got to identify with something. So, then I know if it's part of,

that you suggestion in the moment, or cocoa, what is an explanation

logical to, but, it's also a situation that, that we talk to

live so, totally opposite to repeat, to repeat, to do the other

moment, that was a question totally chaotic to a a totally inversed, a tranquility,

a peace, a pass, this, very, very, special, but, but,

no, a thing, that's, for the particular, after the years

that has succeeded, no, no, no, I've thought, and,

And, Fugate, very interesting, because I'll say, right is where I'm trying that in the

events spiritual, those events overnatural, that's overnatural is related like with God,

yes. Occurren like the contra-cara, but of the same phenomena, when they're

in phenomena preternatural related with entities demoniacas. Existe the manifestation of aromas.

When there an entity demoniac, normally the aroma suffre, or is a carne and it's

carne podrida aromas pestilentes existent, existent the aroma of flowers

is an aroma dulcone but after if if it starts a exorcism

it's a form a podredumb but in the manifestations of the

virgin many sometimes there's this this manifestation that

has documented during much there there there is there

there cases where if there are where if so there is a where is really interesting

until right I'm getting to the 20 of the when when they're in

the time miracles because the I'm because the studio for that the

study to determine that is a but when there a manifestation that rompe the normality

I I'm I'm I'm because it has because it's the

other car of the same the same a so-sceo. So the

interpretation and where it is different. There's a success that there was about

a hostia that derramed and this hostia that was made in a carist

of an Eucharistia when it's starting to do the process of revision

it is that the Vatican and this I think were at finales of 80

the initials of 90s they they manda the host, this occurred in Mexico D.F.

And I think Antonio Samudio has a documentation of this case a profundity

but the diocese or more well the Vatican pide that that's a

hostia and not we don't we don't make a miracle. No they're

not they're not an argument but the but the sacerdote is in

contra totally and then then it's it terminate He's coming from the

church and a day it's that they they're to make to go

he's he said that directly was a question of the Vatican and I think

he's he's a there's there's many things here but one of

the things there are many there there to know really

that really that's really that's there but in the

manifestations that supposedly supernatural if I think supposedly, when it's a

direct separation of the church, instantaneously, they're doing to say, what's

what's that it, that could appear that as it's that it's because it doesn't

not, not necessarily in some in some those cases, I do that I dood of it,

but not necessarily has to have more with the philosophy that's much

the philosophy that is promulgand there is a way to the basis

very profound that are a level spiritual but also a level of simple

logic so that they're not not these those these are the fact

because it's been I don't say for putting a number 200

manifestations of the virgen and always about this this what I

say saying is totally totally contrary so then

then there there there is and there this message that is doing right, obviously generate a

but also it's incongruent with the rest of messages that's this is strange. In fin, it's a temon the time on the

that you're on the truth I think you I've had been had been I've had been I've been I've been

a minute that my family is very, very Catholic I've had had been certain

kind of different of the but you never to be that generated

for a in concrete. We'll see to the Virgin what's the time thing. We're going to be a virgin in

what's a situation. I remember perfect in a occasion. That we were on a vacation to San Antonio. We were more

chavitos. We're a typical to go to sea world or six flags, but you know, but made the count that my mom was so

a ferradism because I had heard that in a municipality of Texas, Blanco, Texas there was a quadro of a

virgin that this, and then my mom was to see the woman that we're going to be the virgin

in that you know, total, you know, to tell us we're going to, we're going to, we're going to, we're going to be, the virgin, and yeah, mania, we're going to say, flags, and what you want to do you want.

Well, we went, so, this, acudimus, we came to a little a capillita, started a mongita, and, if, effectively, there was,

I, I, it took to be able to, there, there was a picture of the virgin, that, this, it was a, perfectly,

like, the, the, the, eyes discurried this liquid and

that if you you know you're like like the light, the liquid had like a certain vision

like a viscosa, like if were an acid. And yeah the, the monghitas

to explain there a little the history related to this and all. So,

so you know kind of that one, well, we're we're to be the

we're we're, and the part chistoso's of this, has to be because the day next time

that we've decided to go to six flags, we're going to a Zipflax, well, no, you know, you're not going to

think that's that it's a time we're going to be able to be all the time and that's all the other day, Zipflax,

but the result is that we're not we're not able to get to Zipflax. No. For, it's an an accident

there's all that we record us to my mom every time that we remember we we're going to

get a when we're to get a little so we're so we're so let's see that in that

in that occasion I mean that's a thing that I don't know what I don't know what

what explanation could have to be at least that for a circumstance the the quadro

was was never manual, human and in a one but what so

what so I can assure is that And to me to see that the picture

specific of the Virgin if it's that's it's very interesting to the thing of

the matter of a lot of a part of the thing that I'm my my name my

is that because not credit they're it's a super marketing and super promotion

I'm totally totally totally of course so then so there for me

it's it's a so like a marketing is a piece strategy

of the are doing. And then I top I did not much, Charlie, me top

this in some months, that in the 90, of the fact, I'm in the

2012, 2013, fellacee this Saccardt, Gonzales, of Kedb, is a

pedd about, he said, he was a part of his life in Brazil.

And he was a paracicologist, the idea of the parapsicology in a principle,

in some in his initial, was a rame in the the about about,

to say the phenomena but studied with methodology, yeah, investigate to detail and

to get to conclusions, that's a sacerote in that paracicology was a master. Of the

actually, for him, he was he was during a time obligation. If you

you're, so, if you were a sacerdote, you, you had to study to

psychology. Yeah. And so in Italy, and he was the was the he was

he was a there's a sacerdote that not that's a paracologist. And that's very interesting. And he was he was about that he's not there. He said, almost no, there's miracles. The things that

are in the people are are psychologics. Yeah. No are miracles. And he was about, with this, no I'm saying that what he's a 100% of the fact, but it was what he propone. Sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he says that

we're not, we're not sure, we're we have like a power in our naturalness that is at a level

inconsient that makes many different deformations of the reality but that's not

he was he said he'd know he's and I don't I don't

know this he didn't he he was he said he said he said

he'd talkos that were certain marques manch's in X place

things if the person that with with the manifestations, the tomas,

and you your legas 500 meters of the place, the manifestations separate. Okay.

It's the person, and he's the person, he's been a lot of the methodologies. He did

know that he was linked to the person to be to the subject, he had to

have situations. Then he said, no, is God, is the person. And then

he was he, he was some he said, he said, and he the part philosophic

that really is a miracle, how is the instruction of God, is very interesting. But he, in no moment,

after what I gave to be, abordable to all the questions carismatical that there that's not not even,

nor do you know, so are problems psychological, and it's, but the synoglossia, but the

levitation, but the sansonism, but how you explain all this? It's correct. So,

there are situations that yeah, we're in the terms of the end of

things very very interesting. Yes, is correct. That part this part of this

personaceous that's question that there around, because if still still having, we know,

some kind of some kind of things that not, or things that probably, uh, yeah,

that me I'm a clear to something, I, I think in the part of

parapsicology, the fact, the question of the case of the I was.

I was so no for the explanation of because I know I think this is a person to

some type of demonio. I don't no, I've got another explanation. But with

the explanation of Keddo, if it was made more sensato that I did in that

the other two, the other two, when it's when the other people as they

were new, you know me has that's so the point is

that there there If you're going to to be able to say in psychology but there's other that's

doing something different. And to me I took to live things that for me no have

an explanation. I think to God as that that's what that changes the person of

the human, obviously to the bond that the right, to the

way, to the future, and I'm took to live many things, there's there's,

no, there can't, in the can't make you , a success intermedio for impositions

of the man. Because one a person said a said a word to hear a word to do.

And it has a change radical and in time duradero that says, no, a therapy of years,

I've got to that and the person was a little a impoconcito, no. And then

you're you're gonna who's, who's didn't know, it's a time, so, are things that are

rare, or so, so, so, it's to study the casuistic, is a single case, how do you

take, but I see from my experience and with many psychologists and many doctors that we've talked about these things, I think firmly

that if there's more more than our nature of our that's a lot of that's a good, that's he's got to get a good.

Exactly, so that's right. Exactly. So, that's the one of course, Charlie, you've seen,

because these situations are very mystic in those that you've lived, you've some type of situation

pegando more to do you do that yeah see if I'm I think I

had around of some about the eight years more almost is that my

my my abuelos my so so even even

my my mom yeah was here I'm here so

much family of she was there was very common

very common that the vacations of the summer of the school,

we're to make a and the real thing Mathewala in the years 80, 90s 80s

so pretty that was it was aburried for a little to be a record perfect that when

you were the vacations I said no, no, no it's we're going to get to

Matuelah and we go to we're going to get to sometimes more and then then it was

it was not absolutely nothing but but my mom, this, visit to his friends, to his family and so, that's the intention as well. So, I see that's the

family of my mother, that lived in Matooga, they'd have a house very great, very, very, very grand. Of those typical of the films of Pedro Infante, Jorge Negrette, that are like, like, a patio very great at the

center and that around are the quarters, there are in the quarters, but there's a fount, and that still the kitchen in the part of the back in the

back of the kitchen was where they sometimes they were they're their own their own

their own food, etc. It's a big, enormous, enormous, yeah.

So, the quarters have to do you know that if there had a

two only those divided a point, that just you could let you know,

you'd pass to the other quarters without to have to get to

get to to be to to be to So, I when, then we, we,

we were my father to Mattewala, and when I was, I was to be able to imagine

us to get this is the camera, and I saw, so, at the way,

at the room, but not, not, not, but I, the,

a, contra-skina, because there was, because there a, in the the night's the figure of a person of a

man that was to account that recargated between what is the the, the, the the corner of the court. So, you know, I'm, I think perfect of that, well, typical a new, that you tap, with the when you know, when you're, when you know,

just you just, you know, I saw the eye, and I, you know, I saw a individual there, then, so I remember perfect that in some moment I'm my mom, that, who, that, who, the, the, that, the, the, the, that I, the, the,

night, no? And then, it's typical that there, things of children, not, no, no, no, they're doing so, et cetera, et cetera. Total, every time that we're not going to that house in Matawalna, this,

succeed, so, I was in constant, I, I, I'd saw a, a, person, and I, right, for example, I've got perfect, his image in the head. A man, maybe, of those 50, 60 years, this,

moreno cocalbo that was recarred vestido of the thrache black so

total I did that I did come an anecdote and then after I went I was

growing this then it was not so much to get to

get to not even to get to keep to I never I

never that question that I said to my mom in an occasion and that they're trying a lot of for consider

that I'm saying I'm a ton of what is my surprise when in one occasion we're in a carnazada

my, my primos, my tios and they started to get a and so of that

oh, you're you're of fulano of a so-and- so-and- so,

so for me it was very impactant that my mom came to that she I was a, of a, of a

young, I saw a man in the house that that was that was he was going to describe it, he was describing

the same person that I had seen in some moment. So, I, I, I,

I, I, I, know, I knew that my mom, this, had also, had also

had also, the question more long, the, this, with the , this, years,

the family of my mom, my mother, my abuel fallies, that house was in

tested, passed many years that's in pleats at the end up and it's

he's there's many more very big and you know, you know, they're

that they're done that they're a new. And, but it also that in the

moment of the derrumb and the movement of the scombros, well, they were people who

had been been started in there. This, and that no, and that had no, the person,

not were the same, they were that in some moment, that had been been, or had been been in

this, and that, and that, because, the, because, they're going to

the, the, the, the, those, the, the, I,

I remember, they've to do a movement legal, because it has to be this, with a movement of the

other people, those are the words, so, that's the word. So, a rise of there, what,

what, we're going to say, oh, so, very probably the manifestation of the

person that we had to have had to be with some, with some of the people who were there

in, uh, but me called powerososimement of the attention that my

my mom describier to the same person that I saw when I was this, this, to that house of

Matehuala. This, like, so, I said a rata we had said, we're that I

thought that for that other things, like a little, I don't go, because if it was

a little kind of a bit curious, me, a little bit of but, that's a day, you know,

I just, I simply saw a a, I, madres, so, so, I'm gonna' be tapable, and,

but yeah, I'd be dark, and yeah, I'm there's a kind of a little kind of a idea of a

weird, or to be a rare, that's, but it was manifesting, so like, in different moments and

generations, then I'm to know what explanation you do that? Oh, and the trage of him was a new

a new thing? Yeah, yeah, see, see, this, look, make,

see, you know, this, imagineate, a piece of a piece of tintan. As well.

Yeah. Uh, this, many, many, these, these, these,

like, because even the corte of the, of the , of the , the thing,

like, the figure, like, that of the man, this, was, he was,

an man, a, but, but, very curious, because only,

was, like, like, he, was, he was, he'd be a,

way, no, no, no, no, no, so as

a, as, Like, Like, Like, Exactly. Exactly. So,

like, as it's like, there's a situation. It's correct. There's

different. There's things that have been occurred, the, that's topan in

a place, and then the stories like, and then these stories that I was

the time, that I'm talking, that's episode, vion's that talk,

that's correct. And in this capsule, in these tomas peridid, I,

I'm a story about Chris Martel. Well, there a story of the Fed of the Lobo that's

that's about what you're doing a little bit of a point he has he's very similar as I he's

he's going he says that he says that he says he's he says he says he has to be

he's up he was almost he's just he's in the house and there's situations very difficult and he

was a time for a time for a difficult for a family but he's no no for is a little bit of a tenor less attrader because he commenced with

things strange. The first thing is to have the Fed of the lobo is that he gets to feel that he'llan to enter the camera. He's a scared, a sustard, and then, oh, and he was that sensation, nothing more. In other occasion, he's been doing and he'scooked

that someone's carcachea, but in his o'ydo. Oh, and he's, he he's a lot of stodiedissimo, and he's, as he. As soon, as you know, in the paralysis of the you, no you can't

move. So he mentioned that this is during paralysis of the brain.

He's a one of the occasions most aterrador's when I live with this group of Wherever

Tomorrow, and all they've all they've all they in a house, he's

in a room in a little a little he's, he's he's

he'd he's he'd get to the court and he's I'm the door

I'm to be a I'm acuesto. Me, I do the paralysis of the window, I see how the

door is a open, and the other side is a man with a man with a sombrero. And the

man, we've talked about him, is an entity that has been to be a person, he's going to

an intention negative. He's the does he does it that's a contrary to the brain,

but he did a matter, that he's he can get a and he and the

door and the door is an entity. So, he's that he's a very very very

a anecdote more. The situation that has been to be in the story that

you're that's that's that they're in this house. He

has a paralysis of and see something a type of person or entity

totally blank absolutely black media humanoid for what I

went coming by the pass and he was coming into the

a room and he is soma and he's a little and he he's a idea in the head in the

case, but he learned that he's not the thing that's that's correct.

In this time, she has a person that has been a person who has been with

the people, and a time. And a day and they say, oh,

in this house, they're in this house, another of the group and

he says, yeah, way, in my closet they're They're talking.

So, like if someone could be out of that's he says, he says,

he said, he was there's the right in the eyes, and there's totally blank,

he's and he was about, and it's me circle, and it's and then, he said,

he was talking about the same thing that I, that I don't see, it's, it's,

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's a specificly, because this is a

situation rare, if the entities spirituals have also as a facility of a transado very extrana.

And I heard that same story here in Monterey. That's what they're telling, it's in the state of Mexico. Here in Monterey,

in a house in colinas of San Geronimo, a person when was a little he never, because it was the house of his abuelos

and they were there were they were there. They'd be in the doors, you'd beas the doors,

you'd you'd beas people that were horrible, my my abuelos, for some

situation, no them were but all the other people we're in a time, a time

a time, I'm a little bit more I'm doing the way they're doing the but they're not they're

doing like they're like they're doing like a lot of a man was a was a much

for an animal were not some there were some there were a man

but he's a car and he rapid so so it at the velocity and so

with that with that velocity I'm afraid of this. I'm not in paralysis of the dream. If he's not being to the door, he's going to tap and in that a man who's a strange, black, totally, but black,

a piece, black, and that's, and so may be, and he gets a-bidden and he goes, like, as a-sum, no, can't be. And it seems,

or so, for a little of the description, that's talking of the same entity. And now

this this this chico Daniel Mendoza I think is Daniel Mendoza

Discupon if I think he he's he says he he Rose the

Morrow The Morrow Mose Mendoza Ivan Mendoza and thanks for the

correction Ivan Mendoza and Kiroz with this program that they have been there

another person with that they they're they gave

a that me bowed the head. What? What is that?

It's a not this the mentado phantasm of the savana? The

chaned by a phanasas a black and they referrion to this. Because many people

that are of this type that's they say, are not a humanoid, but there are not. And there are

there stories of them there. Yes, totally because you, for example,

from the from you, they, they they they,

they they they they a , a image.

I mean, why... Because the Savares? Yeah. Because when you identify, and why you need to do you do you know,

you know, and a little right that you do you know, to think, who's, who can't be to do you

to do that me to do a person, that someone that's a person that I may have been able to

have been to be able to me and so, et cetera, so, so, then it has much sense,

yeah. So, so, so. So, then so, then so it, so it was like, even,

Mendoza gave a grand theory, never ever had been about this entity,

it could be going to be this entity. Could be able to be there. Clarely, some

story with the you want to get a good at this talk about this question. Look, you know,

just about this, I mean, I came, a little I'm a little bit

less, no, has a year more or a year, more or less or a year,

I'm, I'm a good man who had commented that, he was passing

for a situation personal difficult and then acudied with a a woman that has a certain don that can be able to know

that's a future. And then this record perfect that we were to reunique some people and he no, then when he said, oh, disulpom me, what the past was,

that was, that was in a session, in a therapy, so he no, did, and I'm tired. So, yeah, when we were going, and I said, oh, yeah, me, I'm saying,

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I was with a, this, because me they're and they said,

I said, and how you you know, and how you felt no, then it's me, I said, I said,

oh, I'm, I'm, like, some of, like, some of, some of,

some, I, and I contacted, and me, this, this, a young,

major, that's, maybe, between, maybe, maybe, is to, you know,

you're, to know, you're doing, you're, so, so, so, so,

I, I acude to the house of the lady that's the country and

this and I say, oh, pass to him have been talked about to you

have been much good, et cetera. I was with two things specific one

one, I wanted to know how going to be my children in a

future and what going to go to me in a situation personal

to future. But what me for the attention and that

at the principle I'm with certain because I'm the relationship that's the thing that

he said, he said, probably he could have said much things, of the that the

woman was saying, because you know, imagine it that I see, imagine it,

you know, in the house, and she and she me, he's, to say,

Carlos, this, you are this, you are this, you have passed for that you, et, et,

et, et, et, I, so, like, like, and the data

very specific that I, that I, that's my first reaction. My first reaction was, I said,

I'm, I'm, my, my, my, my, my, my,

he could have done done a reference, is that I said, oh, you,

you, you, you, you, you, I, did, I,

I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, and I'm, and I, look,

in the place to do the house, anteriorment, it was a

panteon. So, I perceive that there many movements there for your house. And I say,

you recommend that you do you put some aromas, some incisensos, and supposedly that circumstance

a leh to the spirits. And then you know, to me he made that, that's a

question, and then this, I put to investigate. And, and, and,

effectively in this sector specific of the municipality, I've been I'm going to the 50s

for there. It was, it was a a, a, a, so it's probably probably

maybe my house is constructed about the rest of the human. And, and this day

to today to today, I, I'm, I'm, my, my, my,

my, my, I'm preending, and I'm the, every time that I'm there's,

I've been those things that that, that you connect to to the light and

he's the other I'm going to I'm going like to never never ever

ever not. Until right not. Until right not but I really much

the attention because the sheena no never had any other that I've had changed to

recently and she she said I'm saying look at this moment angels me are

talking me are saying that you pass this message your kids are

being you're going to be your family will be blah blah blah

blah but this data with a little attention you're I'm a

so much so they're going to I'm gonna I'm gonna make my so I'm gonna probably more

probably yeah that's yeah yeah yeah see you think that the

of the of is a it's a it's a it's a thing

tremendous because it's a thing that is like to get

it's it the, I took a person and those people I think one of the

people more, I can't say more sceptic, but question a much the things, much,

much, too, too, but in excess. And in many occasions when it when it's

a point to say, eh, no, I think. Then, a day me say,

oh yeah, oh, oh, narrator, because my friends me say, I'm

saying, hey, narrator, if you can read the man, when they're in the

hand, if they can read the future, right? And I, a me when they're

the hand, no me they're not me explain what they, and he

did you a coatt in a seminar, because he was, he was a Hindu, he

was a father's and for them, it was the lecture of the future, the lecture, the

then they, in your man, it'scribe the life that you're living.

And then the Marks that you're going to talk of what you know what you're

living in this instance. It was very interesting because when he took my man, me and I

start to tell you know, all my relations family, relationships, situations that I'm looking,

situations that are not going, so general, because I me, I mean, I like this

them much this thematic of how we can influence in the mind human and then I

noticed in those are quite are quite generics, but if you are going

six rubros and you like other 14 that could have taken to have taken to and then

you're that's a interesting I know I don't that I'm that I'm and if I'm

that I'm that I'm that I'm that I'm that's what that's what did you but now

but when this she's that I that's I'm I'm I'm just that

I'm with a person here in Monterey that's very strange very extra-specifics

hyper-specific. And I'm not to I can't but they're things like that'll a lot

in a place. Fin, no? And she never have to go to get that because I

say it's totally idiot if it's what you is that it's not it's not

it has no, no, no, he said, and me he said, and the day and the hour

and the place, me made on the time, and the I said in the moment

in the moment in the time. It's the right. And well, here comes the situation that

for me is of pinsas. No, I dood that what did this person if was to

an anticipo of what was the future. But I have known many cases that that that comes

from a connection in an entity demoniac. And yeah. And this

was recent that a person with this access to the future He asked this, for

relato's that I've been told I'm a bit, you know, this what you say, you know, you know, in the people,

you know, or someone to do you know, someone me to say the I'm saying the o'clock, all the

I've heard of that time, don't turn them yeah. So, I'm, no, I'm, I don't

know, I don't think in this area there, there's, just I just got, I've seen,

from the stories that I've heard, and of what the people me have contado, no? And as I said,

Revis a more, to where you get that entity, because the form in the that's in those entities is that one that you're just as case, and one that you're trying to with them, it's your property. Wow. Fun. Fin. No

there's where you're going to, where you want to, apart to, do a side, the things are going to turn out in your contra, very strong. Revisa, because it's like if it were the trato with a person that you're asking the mentado, the pago for protection.

that is protection of me, no? So, in this type of entities, they're doing this all the chica, yeah not say

the day of how are the things, I'm going the but that's going to be able to but, but there's,

there's, there's, there's a connection with an energy or an entity that has access to

that information, but you will be to do you, so it's so, oh, I'm so,

no, I'm just that way and I've I've done. I don't see. With the

people who have been, not have been, I've seen, there's about, I'm

know, directly of them. Of them. And, well, and in the houses where

they're those things, that's there's there's where there has been to be a

story of, and you say, you say, no, you know, you know, that's that they're

that they lived, and that in X, quarter, in the that's there's

there's, but then then I'm, but then then last. , me,

I'm, I'm gladysko a lot, but I'm a lot of your program. And I'm that's a

other moment. Yeah, what you know, what you do you want to a little about a episode about

about it's about it. Sure, that's great. I'm really. Charley, don't you can't see it?

Ah, look, a me you know, I'm going to C, Sousedo, L, in all my

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Recently, if you permit to do the commercial, we're doing with Morocco Palacios and with Sergio Mejorado. They've been a

program that's called a par-de-ses. So, they've been doing some show. We've been doing to come to present here in Monterrey,

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of the program for a platform. So the people that will be a appear to be to be able to

be able to be there. They're all they're on the day 29 of November in Sagar Cumbres.

Sagar Cumbres, 29 of November for a part of SES is correct. And grabed for a platform. And grabed

for the platform. Very well, has any cost of the bullet? The the entry of the bar

simply, the the cover of the bar. The cover the bar is correct. Perfect. So, where can check

this information and if you can buy the bullet or the bar? No, we can't check it. Tantro the

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is the manager that is manhors is directly in the page of the bar. It's agar Cumbres and there's all the

information. Excellent. Chal, and then, well, the gustavs is for me. Muchisem

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