Halford & Brough in the Morning - Adam Kierszenblat Talks Canucks + What We Learned

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

In hour three, Mike & Jason discuss the latest Canucks updates with The Hockey News' Adam Kierszenblat (2:13), plus the boys tell us what they learned (27:00). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Sales, financing, service, or parts. So you have married two of our favorite things here, Big Band Tuesday, with Christmas music. Two of our favorite things. I love them both. I am a tad disappointed that you're not wearing your little Santa hat. I know, I know. But he's wearing it the other day.

I know. But he wears it every day. I forgot. I don't have the long hair anymore, so it doesn't stick in my hair quite as easily. For those that are unaware, I think it was last Christmas. You came in every day

and Laddie would wear this very, very tiny Santa hat. You have to understand how small this hat was. This was not like a child's hat. This was like... Like the size of your finger. Yeah. Five or six inches, which is a totally good size. It was like an elf the size of your finger. Yeah. It was like five or six inches, which is a totally good size.

It was like an elf on the shelf hat. Yeah, it was attached to a little clip. You didn't steal one from an elf on the shelf, did you? My lips are sealed. Stolen from a child. I don't want to get on the naughty list. Yeah, I just keep forgetting, so I apologize. We were having these intense arguments with each other,

and I'm wearing this little Santa clip in my hair. It did lighten up everything. these intense arguments with each other and I'm wearing this little Santa clip in my hair. It's probably fun. It did lighten up everything. Okay, we've got a lot to get into on the program in the final hour of the program. I need to remind you

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what are you waiting for? Kintec, our next guest, the first-time guest on the program. He covers the Vancouver Connects with the Hockey News. Adam Kurzenblatt joins us now on the Halford & Brough show

on Sportsnet 650. Morning, Adam. How are you? Good morning, guys. Thank you for having me. And, you know, I was listening, I guess, based off your conversation,

you're not going to be watching Thursday's Basil Sansone's versus Sawyer Mineo's pre-tournament World Junior game? I didn't even know the tournament was in Ottawa, dude. So I'm probably not going to be watching the pre-tournament game on Thursday. But I am excited to see Sawyer Mineo play, I will say that. Well, we'll ask you, like, what are you excited about for the World Juniors? Well, I'm just interested on this Team Canada, how they've built their roster, because obviously you look at some of the players that weren't included,

like especially from the WHL, if it's Riley Hyde or Andrew Cristol. But I'm just curious to see you know how team usa does in this tournament because they are supposed to have a all-star team um up front and in goal so i i really am interested uh to see the americans and i mean also like how kind of the floor of the tournament you know the kazakhstans the germany's those type of teams if they can actually uh you know put up good fights against some of the top teams in the world juniors who's favored i believe the u.s is favored um sweden has a really strong roster canada is one of those we'll see what happens teams but they have a lot of firepower. So I think this is the U.S.'s tournament.

I think they might go back-to-back. Damn it. Definitely not watching this. Well, I guess it's college football for me. Adam, we've been talking about this all show. How can the Canucks play so well against Florida, so terribly versus Boston, and then so well last night against Colorado.

Well, it's really been, I guess, the story of the season, right? This inconsistency where it's one game they look like they're ready to contend for the Stanley Cup, and then the next game they're ready to contend for the lottery. There's no, like, you know, you know you have your top end players but it's either your top end players are playing well and you're getting no depth scoring or you're getting depth scoring and you're getting nothing offensively from the top end so it's just a weird kind of vibe this year with this team where you have baselines but it just feels like every game

it's something different happens and there's no consistency on what the problem is game to game um so how do you go into games do you just go into games like well who knows what's going to happen tonight like they're the expectations i mean expectations are just expectations they're kind of made up in your mind anyway but last year it was interesting how as the season progressed our expectations changed and our expectations were quite high heading into this season and there are some nights when those are met and some nights when they're not like just not met they're just like they're not met spectacularly and I think that's you know every team has clunkers here and there but it's it's the it's the amount of them first of all on home ice and I just think the the level of clunk-titude

yeah it's it you know if you when you talk to the players in the locker room as well they're frustrated with the with the way that they're playing at home like nobody has an answer which is also kind of bizarre like when some of the players uh will mention you know there's a lot less pressure when they're on the road and that does play a factor there whether that's there's less media pressure less fan pressure whatever the reason is there seems to be more connectivity when they're on the road than at home um but obviously if you want to be a strong team and you want to challenge to get to that next level you have to be good at home like come playoffs if you're going to be if you're going to be a top two team in the division you need to be able to win at home in the playoffs. It really is bizarre. It doesn't make

sense how they can be so good on the road versus so poor at home and then have these games where they shut out the Stanley Cup champions and then next night lose 5-1 and then have a great defensive effort and keep McKinnon

off of the score sheet last night. We're speaking to Adam Kurzenblatt from the Hockey News here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. What do you think about the most recent play drivers for the Vancouver Canucks being Max Sasson and then last night, Kiefer Sherwood with the first hat trick of his NHL career? Well, Kiefer Sherwood is fantastic.

That is the signing of the offseason, I think, for really the NHL. Like, this is a guy who's bounced around the minors for a long time. He got his opportunity with Nashville, and he's also a really confident guy. So when he got 100 hits, when he hit his first 100 hits in 15, 16 games, we asked him about the record, and he basically said that his goal was to break the record this year. He'll throw little things like, oh, I have 100 hits on to the next 100. He just gives off this great vibe, and he is really a Rick Tauket player. He'll get it on the floor check.

He'll throw those hits and i know that there's some discussion about in uh hit how hit totals and how it means that you don't have the puck but with keifer it's a little bit different because his hits a lot of them are coming on the four check he's a pain to play against you know demko said last night that now sherwood is part of the sherwood was originally on the not going to be friends ever list. And now that's changed because he's with the team and then with Sasson, that's exactly what you want a guy who's an undrafted free agent to do. He's come in, he's done everything he wants, the team wants. And now he's getting this opportunity with Pedersen and DeBrusque.

And, you know, he didn't really look out of place last night. He had a couple of chances. He was able to get the puck to Pedersen and DeBrusque. He didn't really look out of place last night. He had a couple chances. He was able to get the puck to Pedersen and DeBrusque, which is really what you need from that third forward. And he was able to play that four-check game. So if you look at this Canuck team, the players that are having the most success are the ones that are getting in on the four-check.

And I think that kind of ties into the way that Tockett wants his team to play. I know for the Hockey News, you spoke with Sherwood in an article you wrote recently. What did he say about his time in Nashville? Because a lot of people who are catching on to the Sherwood story now, especially nationally, I know here it's pretty well established, but a lot of people nationally are pointing out like, hey, this guy would be the leading scorer on the Predators if he was there right now. And hey, Nashville made a huge mistake by spending all that money

on Martiuso and Stamkos and not giving it to Sherwood. And hey, isn't Nashville a disaster? What does he say about his last year in Nashville? Well, he was talking, I've talked to Sherwood a couple times now, and when we kind of talk about last year, he mentions how he was always trying to get up to that next step. So whether that was offensively, whether that was physically, he was always looking to do that next gear.

And, you know, he doesn't speak too much about what happened in Nashville over the summer and how they didn't re-sign him. He's more focused on the now and kind of trying to prove everybody wrong. And, like, he wants to, he has a career high now in goals. He's going to have a new career high in hits. So it's more of a, I want to be here now. I want to show the team. I want to show Nashville and kind of the rest of the NHL

that they were wrong about me and become this really strong player for Vancouver. And I can also tell you that Sherwood, he's a big fan of walking around Kitsilano and just the overall scenery of Vancouver. And he did tell me that the vibe is a little bit different compared to Nashville. We got a two-game road swing coming up, back-to-back nights, Wednesday in Utah, Thursday in Vegas. What are you looking for specifically? I guess the goalie split and everything else is the Canucks take to the road

for a two-game set against the Hockey Club and the Golden Knights. I think it's going to be really interesting how the Canucks use their matchups in Utah versus Vegas because Utah and Vegas are two very different teams I think that if the Canucks really use Pedersen and Miller they have to kind of balance like we've seen the ice times a little bit off for Pedersen and Miller like they're not at the 18-19 minute mark which tells you that Rick Tockett is rolling his lines more consistently so I'm interested to see if that is a factor of being at home where you have the last change where you can kind of roll the lines more often or if that is just a plan moving forward because if you have to play Pedersen or Miller more on the road,

is that more of the other team is taking advantage of your line matching and you're just trying something different at home? Or is this a, we're going to try to keep our guys at 16, 17 minutes throughout the entire season, even on the road, so that they're healthier and ready to go come March and April? Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that. I think with JT especially, they're just playing him back into form. I think Tauket himself said,

I'm going to bring him back a little slower, but maybe he was playing too many minutes before. Maybe there's a happy medium there where it's not. I don't think you want JT Miller playing like 16 minutes a night or 17 minutes a night and it'll also depend on special teams as well but I I do think you want to get him up to like 20 minutes a night but there have been nights when he's played 23 minutes a night and maybe maybe that's not the ideal time on ice but it is an interesting thought to consider the ice times for JT Miller

because last night it was 17.52 for JT and 16.30 for Pedersen, whose ice time has been down a little bit in the last few games. Adam, it was great to have you on the show. You did a great job job and we hope you'll join us again. Yeah. Thank you very much for the opportunity and having me.

Adam Kurzenblatt from the Hockey News. He's one of the young up and comers in the biz. He's coming for our job. Never book him again. Yeah, that's right. Okay. We love giving you guys opportunities.

Erase his phone number. He was really good. Never again. Let's do some, yeah, well, he knew some guys in the World Juniors. We asked you and you were like, the third goaltender is. He knew who. I was going to say the third goalie was going to be, and it didn't even end up being Scott Ratzlaff.

He ticked all the boxes. He knew where the tournament was being played. He knew all the countries that were participating. He's a regular World Juniors expert, I tell you what. On this show. Hey, Doc, who won the PWHL tickets? Congrats to Sue from Victoria. Hey, good job,

Sue. She was caller number five. That was at 8.15 this morning. If you didn't win the tickets today, or you were unaware that this was even going on, fear not. We're going to be giving away PWHL takeover tickets every day this week for the remainder of the week. Brough's on vacation after today, so he won't be doing it.

It'll be me. Sue from Victoria. Me and Jamie Dodd. I wonder if there's a Victoria in Sue. It's Anne-Marie. Yeah, right. I think you have to say the Sue. Yeah, you have to say the Sue.

That's what ruins it. Turn your mic off. No, that was pretty good. Okay, let's do some What We Learned because Halford's got some hot audio or funny audio? What do we got here for both? Okay, I've got two NFL What We Learns, both very important. One is an audio component and one doesn't.

What do you want to hear? Do you want the audio one first or do you want the non-audio one first? Well, it's your thing, so you... Just pick one. Audio. There we go. uh the detroit lions suffered another couple of key injuries over the weekend in their very exciting and it was a

score agami 48 to 42 loss to the buffalo bills including an injury to running back david montgomery now you know that the detroit Lions have suffered a number of key injuries this year. Most prominently, Aiden Hutchinson gone for the year. Montgomery, who was part of that two-headed running back committee that they had there, he's gone with a torn MCL. So Dan Campbell, and if you don't know Dan

Campbell, Bruff and I are big fans. Love Dan Campbell. He's energetic. He's enthusiastic. We questioned him when he first took the job. We were like, oh, this is either gonna be spectacular or a complete disaster. It's been spectacular. He had

the Chris Farley motivational speaker vibes at the beginning. We were like, it's funny, but it might be a disaster. What position did he play as a player? Tight end. Yeah, he was a tight end, which normally they don't become coaches, do they? I mean, there's no real set.

There's not a real correlation between position and like a lot of guys from a variety. I thought it was kind of odd. If you're a football guy or not a football guy, that's kind of what it comes down to. Wait, hold on a second. Why would you say that? I don't know.

I just, I didn't feel like a lot of tight ends became coaches. I just felt more. Why not? I thought it was just more quarterbacks and other. It's actually not. You know what? It's not a ton of quarterbacks. Okay.

Well, I think it's. They're more like offensive coordinators. To be honest, there's not a ton of players that end up coaching anymore. Yeah. It's all these. Well, it's all the Nepo babies first. And then it's career coaches well it's all the nepo babies first and then it's it's career coaches now right yeah it's the guys that have actually like like i'm they realize that 21 or

whatever is like i'm not making it i'm gonna be a coach and i'm gonna be a hell of a coach because all the young coaches quote-unquote young coaches that you have right now the mcday they're all nerds they've all got 20 years of experience because they were coaching from their teens. Anyway, I digress. Dan Campbell, good coach, always caffeinated. So he did, and I believe this is a weekly hit on 97.1 The Ticket, Sports Talk Radio in Detroit. And he's obviously feeling it right now because his team just gave up 48 points and a loss to the Bills.

His team just suffered a couple key injuries. They're reeling a little bit right now, and obviously it's high aspirations, Super Bowl aspirations for the Lions. I have not yet heard this audio. It's just been sent along by a variety of people saying you've got to listen to it because Dan Campbell is his caffeinated finest.

Here is Dan Campbell on a rant in the current state of his Detroit Lions. You know, you win 11 in a row, you know, and you lose, and then the sky falls. And I hate to say it, but we're not going to be able to win 11 in a row again for the rest of this season.

We're just not going to be able to do it. And, you know, what happens is you get used to eating filet, and I'm talking to all of us, and everything's good. Life's good, you know, but you forgot what it was like when you had nothing and you ate your molded bread. You know, and it was just fine, and it gave you everything you needed. And sometimes you got to get punched in the mouth and remember what it used to be like to really appreciate where you are.

And we'll do that. And so we got a bad taste in our mouth. We got kicked around the other day. We lost a few guys. And you know what? It's exactly what we needed. This is exactly what we needed. So we're going to bounce back.

We're going to respond. We got guys that are about to have an unbelievable opportunity here. And we will play the game any way needed to win. We still got a good offense. We got plenty of defensive players. I can go rattle them off right now. We're going to put the best 11 on the field. We're going to freaking cut it loose.

We're going to play with our special teams. And I don't give a crap if we got to win by one point for the rest of the year. That's what we're going to do. And I'm going to be happy about it. We come out of the game with 50 yards of total offense and we win by one, you're going to see smiles on my face. I promise you. All right?

If it's the other way defensively, we give up 700 yards and we win by one point, you're going to see a f***ing smile from my ear to ear. All right? I can promise you. So we're going to find a way and we're going to get it done. So a quick public service announcement. Don't eat moldy bread. Don't. It's not fine.

I know if you're desperate, just don't. There's alternatives. Don't do it. But Dan Campbell is fired up. And I don't, I'm a little, I was a little caught off guard when I heard that he kind of went on a rant. Because, I mean, no one's really saying that the sky is falling and it's collapsing around you.

But then I heard the rant, and I'm like, oh, I know what's going on. That's a coach that needs his guys to go through some adversity. Real or make-believe? Every coach, every coach, loves when their team is faced with adversity. Because that's when you get to rally the troops.

That's why so many coaches make it up. That's why Torts makes it up every five or six weeks, right? Keeps guys on edge, gives them a little adversity. Makes up rules. I got a rule against that. You're in trouble. You help me scratch a guy, you're like, now you got adversity.

You know who the elite team at making up adversity for itself is? Kansas City. Yeah. Nobody believed in us. It was like, a lot of people picked you, actually. Looking at the Vegas odds. Hall of Fame tight end. You're the best coach.

Everyone picked you. We were a little nitpicky with, like, you're not blowing teams out anymore. But most of us were, you know, like, thinking that you had a pretty good chance because you're Patrick Mahomes. It's one of the great things about coaching is, like, when things are going good, the first thing you have to think about is, like, how can I make these a little bit bad? Because you can't be too – once you start getting getting resting on your laurels and getting too high on

your horse, that's when the disappointment and the upsets come. So good on Dan Campbell. I'm just blanking right now. What do they call it when they'll put up bulletin board material? Do you think we've ever been bulletin board material? Not good enough. Like Halford and Brough? Like played

something? Probably not, eh? I doubt it. It'd be awesome if we were. You keep going the way that you're going, maybe. You guys aren't controversial enough. You're not controversial enough. Keep it up with this. It does not make sense.

I feel like we'll be up there. The McSorley interview, probably. I got a lot of... I got a bulletin board. I got a lot of... You don't know what bulletin board material is. Yeah. Do you think Marty McSorley is a bulletin board?

He's going to get out there with some energy next game and he's going to... Do you know what we're talking about with bulletin board material? No, explain. Okay, bulletin board material is what is used by... Every answer we learn. This is like when we had to explain how to do an MVP chant. Or who John McEnroe was. So if someone writes something or says something in the media,

or it doesn't even have to be media, it can maybe be another coach or whatever, you take that and you tell your players. This is what these guys are saying about you. Something negative about your team. Are you going to prove them right or are you going to prove them wrong? So back in the day, you used to take the newspaper that would have either the headline or the quote,

and you'd take a thumb tack and you put it on the bullet and everyone would look at it. Now you'd have to go to the computer and print out the article off the internet.

It doesn't have the same amount of gravitas. How many tweets do you think have been printed out over the years by coaches? Just like a tweet.

I'm very curious. Do you think that still happens? The Canucks have a rough collage for beating. It's around his locker room. Yeah.

Doesn't seem to be working. A little dartboard that he throws darts at with your face on it. Do it for him. Okay. So that's my one what we learned. Do it to spite him. Mookow that. I'd welcome it.

I'd welcome it. You're going on vacation. It's all, there's no more bulletin board material coming to you. The other very important what we learned that I have. We gotta go. You gotta save it because we gotta take a break and I've got to

mentally recover from A-Dog not knowing what bulletin board material is and be like Ruff's just gotta say something really controversial while he's on vacation. Marty McSorley's bulletin board is right next to his conspiratorial board. All right, we got to go to rake. When we come back, I'm going to do a very important and exciting What We Learned.

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did some research at the break on that very, very let's just call it what it is, poor conversation on what position did most NFL coaches play. According to Sports Illustrated, it's quarterbacks and defensive backs tied for the most coaches coming from a particular position.

Now, a lot of this comes with an asterisk because I think we're all assuming like, oh, they played at a high level. Like if you were a high school quarterback, does that really count? If you played at, you know, Southwest Louisiana Community College for two years as a quarterback, does that matter? I think it counts if that's how you perceive the game coming up through the ranks, Louisiana Community College for two years as a quarterback. Does that matter? I think it counts. If that's how you perceive the game coming up through the ranks,

whether it was low level or high level, I think that still counts. Yeah, but you understand what we're talking about. Yeah, it still counts. Jim Harbaugh, for example, that's for some reason the first name that comes to mind. But Jim Harbaugh was an NFL quarterback. Yeah, no, I know. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't anything spectacular, but he was in the NFL.

Yeah, yeah. He was also on Saved by the Bell. He was Screech's cousin. Yeah. Fun fact.ch's cousin. Yeah. Fun fact. That's the important fact. So anyway, I don't mean to throw...

Sean Payton was a quarterback. Yeah, but he was a scab player, I think. Okay, but he was still a quarterback. No, no, not like an actual physical scab. When they had the strike, he played. No, I understand what a scab is. I thought you said- He's still a professional quarterback.

You looked at me like I was calling it in a derogatory sense, which I guess it is. Well, it's not- I don't know if you've ever talked to any union members. It's not a term of endearment. Oh, look, it's old scabby over here. Anyway, where are we going with this? There's one Canada coaching. There's one

Canada Post guy still delivering the mail. He's like, it's got to get done. It's piling up here. Somebody's got to do it. Anyway, anyway, then someone texts. This is the best. I love the confidence of the people that text in because they'll often do it

without sort of having researched what they're texting in about, but they're very, very definitive and demonstrative in their views. So Justin from Langley texted in, get it together, Mike Vrabel was a tight end. To which I replied, one, he was and he was a linebacker, and two, he's also not even a coach because he's unemployed

well i love the confidence though i love it to justin's credit he texted in right away and he said i did the research i now realize i am very wrong and i apologize the halford and brough show yeah it's a roller i love when people reply i was like ah i thought he was oh well i try not to rub their nose in it in the text reply i save that for on the air but in the text reply i'm like lol linebacker tight end same thing anyway i have one other what we learned okay um this is important by the way because i you know i'm a big uh i'm a big Sunday football NFL red zone guy. Do you ever watch red zone? Not really.

I usually pick a game and stick to it. For those that don't know. It's called focusing on something. It's called attention. Shut up. For those that don't know what red zone is, it's an NFL network product, and it is seven consecutive hours of uninterrupted, commercial-free football.

Scott Hansen sits at a desk for seven hours, doesn't eat, doesn't break. I don't know how he goes to the bathroom. He's on a different level. They had an earthquake one time, and he kept doing it. He is built different. Is he the guy with the ears? No, that's Andrew Siciliano. Did he used to do it?

He had the other version of it, the DirecTV one. Oh, okay. The guy with the ears. Yeah. Everyone knows what I'm talking about. It's tough that I used his actual name and you used the character. That guy with the face, you know? Yeah, that was Andrew Siciliano.

Okay. Anyway. All right. On the weekend. It's not like he's listening. He might be. Although he might be able to. Okay. Anyway, on the weekend. It's not like he's listening. He might be. Although he might be able to hear it. Oh, there it is.

Nailed it. Nailed it. Anyway, on the weekend, watching Red Zone, and for the first time ever, they lied to us. Seven hours of commercial-free football. Uh-uh. They tested out. Oh, no.

Commercials. Yeah, that's like the Amazon Prime now. Yeah. It's ridiculous. Like, what am I watching an ad for here? Nothing more annoying than the middle of a movie and that commercial starts playing. I don't like it. I don't.

If you are promising me seven hours of commercial-free programming, I want seven hours of commercial-free programming. Like, you can get it. Gatorade, Verizon, Visa, Lowe's. All of these commercials are popping up. Now, the NFL did, they had to release a statement because so many people were upset. So did they play the, what kind of commercials were they?

Like typical 30-seconders or whatever? And then they would put it in an adjacent box. They went two box. But then you can, yeah, so like in golf, when you're watching, sometimes they have like playing through where the ads will be playing and you can still see the golf being played but it's not all that helpful because you don't have the commentary and it's a pretty small

screen exactly jason yeah so uh the nfl had to release a statement and they did say that they were just sort of beta testing this for one week they won't do it again this season but it might be back for 2025 i don't know why don't they have different versions? You know how they have some of the streaming services will be like this is cheaper or free if you want the ad supported version or you can pay for no ads. Like I pay for no ads on YouTube. But then these apps just get to a point

where they devolve to where the free app is just unusable at this point. And what's the point of even having a free app? Because some people will still use it because they can't afford it. Money is a little high. But you're just inundated with ads. You can do that for Prime, too. Like, how Prime has ads. The only one was Mr. Pace for YouTube.

You can pay for a better version. Sorry, Andy. We got you. It's also my music, though. It's actually a good deal. I don't have Spotify. I have YouTube music. I think we should do the radio version of this and just kind of silence you.

When Ruff goes on a rant, just kind of mute him down a little bit. Play an ad over top a little bit louder and then fade the ad out. Like the playing through? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just kind of fade you down a little bit. Still have you playing so people can listen. And then you come back and that's why he should be traded. And if there's nothing else you take away from this rant, it's that.

Well, you gotta want the puck! So anyway, Red Zone had had commercials it made me sad i hope they don't do it in 2025 but i think you're on the right path that this is the way to create two red zones one ad free and then one that does include advertising it's over your seven hours of football mook out me i'm gonna skip my what we learned because we got to go into the dumb bar lumber text line no no no no we're not no, no, no, no, no. We're not doing that. We're doing A-Dogs.

I don't care. Oh, come on, man. I don't care. It's a good one. I don't care. It better be. This is important. Quick, Tim.

I was so close to printing out the submission. This is important. The listeners can wait. Okay, hurry up then. Canadian icon Terry Fox will be the new face of the Canadian $5 bill. Thank you. That's it. That's important. Pretty cool, though. It's very great. It's great. face of the Canadian $5 bill. Thank you. That's it. That's important.

Pretty cool, though. It's very great. Terry Fox on the $5 bill. Great. Long overdue. Yeah. And I'm glad it's happening. And PSA, that picture that's been making the rounds,

that's not what it looks like. They haven't come out with a picture of what it looks like. Okay. So don't be duped by any fakes out there. Okay. Fire up the dot matrix. What we learned, Humanoid Edition is brought to you by AJ's Pizza on

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I like that. Yeah, yeah. Because I'll listen to podcasts on YouTube as well. Have you heard about this company, Google? They're doing some good things. They're doing some big things. They should offer it to their free users. YouTube, you say. Yeah. What we learned from Harv in New West.

Good old Harv. I love Harv. The Canucks won the Wood Off yesterday. There isn't a better way to say that. There has got to be a better way to say that. No, there's not. Woody Off. I guess Sherwood is better than Blackwood and Wedgwood combined, and I guess There isn't a better way to say that. There has got to be a better way to say that. I guess Sherwood is better than Blackwood and Wedgwood combined. And I guess Miles Wood didn't play as he hurt? He's injured.

He's injured? Yeah. He's got a splinter. That joke was sitting out there. Someone had to take it. Would have been a different game with Miles Wood. He plays a similar style to Sherwood. Yeah, they would have been able to build a whole chair.

The boy kept asking, does he use a Sherwood stick? He does not. Several people were asking that yesterday. Oh, okay. He doesn't? No. Okay. I thought he'd use one of those old Sherwood feather lights that I enjoyed. You know what? In hindsight, they weren't that light. Quite heavy. It was just the name? It was just the name. Well, they were

light for wood sticks, but not compared to what we got now yeah they were talking about it on the post game show yesterday oh really yeah had sherwood uh scored the goal that chased blackwood that forced wedgewood in i think the universe would have exploded and miles wood is in the press box i gotta be in there shaking his fist uh trey the gulf island fairy worker with what we learned. I learned that after Halford and Brough tried motivating the dogs by telling them to meet pressure with pressure

and embracing hard, they have now threatened them with the trade to WGR Sports Radio in Buffalo. Please no. We'll see if their performance improves or if Halbro will have to follow through on their threat before the holiday break. Are you kidding me? We'd be perfect for Buffalo. I think they'd appreciate it.

Oh, the dogs? That's how you raise somebody's level is you threaten to trade them to Buffalo. And in this alternate universe, it's us saying, dogs, step it up, or you're going to go to Buffalo. Dude, give me that American radio money.

Are you kidding me? Seriously, you can. You might actually be able to buy a house in Buffalo. They're just giving them away there. I remember when, I think I've told this story before, and I don't have all the exact details, but Tyler Myers,

I think when he was there, set some sort of Buffalo real estate record for the most expensive house ever purchased. It was like $1.4 million. $1.42. Jason, have you been to Buffalo? So was it a record? Read the story. Tyler Myers drops

$1.42 million on his Middlesex home. Is there a picture of the house? It's one of the highest prices paid per square foot in Buffalo's recent real estate history. Oh, okay, per square foot. Yeah.

Okay. So that's a little bit different, but that is hilarious. The other one that I always remember was Peke Rene selling his – he almost had a castle in Nashville. It was like $800,000 or something like that. Yeah, it was very bizarre. They're like, where do you live? He's like, a castle.

And they're like, okay. Do you think some of the other NHL players come to Vancouver and they go to like some of the stars NHL houses and they're like, this is where you live? Are you serious? What, are you putting some money away or something like that? Do you have gambling debts? I'm trying to remember who.

It's crazy. One of the players, he got traded while he was in the midst of trying to buy a place just off commercial drive. to remember who. It's crazy. One of the players, he got traded while he was in the midst of trying to buy a place just off commercial drive. I remember that. Well, there's torts, too, who decided to not even live in British Columbia. Well, I remember, you know when they have the houses on the market, right? And it's clearly a player. I remember looking at Horvat's house and going, it's nice.

Not that nice, though. Like, it's nice. I'd nice, though. Like, it's nice. I'd love to live in a house like that, but it's not like, whoa, and you've got like a basketball court in the back or anything like that. It wasn't like that. You're a multi-double-digit millionaire. Yeah, yeah. You should have.

I watched a video. You probably made like $5 million on it too, right? Just like whatever. I watched a video. I think it was Ryan5 million on it too, right? Just like whatever. I watched a video. I think it was Ryan O'Reilly's house in St. Louis, and it was incredible. It had like a 9,000-foot sport court. He had a sauna.

Yeah. He had just everything. And it's because, I mean, it's in Missouri. I'm assuming that he's like, well, let's just build it. The land was $3. Yeah. Half the Americans probably go back to the States in the off season, not just because they want to do that.

It's just like, look at our property here. It's incredible. What we learned, Tablesaw James, apparently there is a GoFundMe to purchase the white caps. Could they end up being the Green Bay Packers of MLS? No. No. No. That ain't going to happen.

I mean, I love all the desperation right now. There's one Green Bay Packers. There will only ever be one Green Bay Packers. That's it. That's never going to happen again. And it's almost being held up as this sort of unique anomaly that will only exist in that particular league from that particular time that will stand the test of time. Nothing will ever happen again.

On the subject of desperation, yeah, we talked about this at length yesterday on the program. And I threw out a couple pie-in-the-sky scenarios more as an example of how dire it seems just from an outsider's view. When you look at these cold, hard reality reality and i keep coming back to the same phrase who's going to drop a half a billion dollars to become a tenant in the worst arena situation in major league soccer it is a hell of a thing and who's going to pay for a soccer-specific stadium in one of the richest real estate markets in the world with, and one of the reasons it's so expensive to buy land here is not just because a lot of people

want to be here because it's a beautiful city and a gateway city to Asia, although that is definitely a factor, but limited in geography. And people can say, well, put it in Langley. Well, then you've, you know, no offense to people in Langley, but then you've got the whole,

are you going to get enough people out to the games? Right? I mean, one of the great things about BC Place, and believe me, I'm not being a city snob here, but the SkyTrain goes right there. And the other SkyTrain goes a couple blocks away. And there's nowhere you'd rather be in today's society than downtown Vancouver.

Gunner from Kelowna. Hashtag WWO, what we learned. I learned that after last night's game, Oilers management must now know they need to make a significant trade for a number one goalie. Absolutely awful. Laddie was just full of glee yesterday

on the Halbro text. Glee? You were, yes, you were. I like Skinner. Yeah, you were laughing at the Oilers. I was laughing because it was hilarious. You were laughing at Skinner. Can I also admit something?

I actually like Skinner. Yeah. I like Skinner as a dude. I want him to do well. He seems like a... No, I don't want him to do well. I don't want him to do well. I want him to personally do well

and his team not to do well. As long as he's on the Oilers, I don't want him to do well, but he seems like a good guy. I like Skinner. He's got a good mustache. I wish he had stayed in for all seven games

of the Canucks series last year. I think they would have had a better chance of winning the series. That's why you like him. Yeah. He has played himself out of Team Canada contention, obviously, but whatever good vibes he had of getting Edmonton to within one win

of the Stanley Cup last year, he's just played his way out of them. He hasn't been good. And I know Knobloch called him out earlier in the year. That goal that he gave up to Reinhardt last night. Yeah, I have a big thread about that goal on my Twitter page. So that's the book on him, eh? If you get those angles, just rifle the puck as high and as hard as you can.

I think there's an essence of that laziness, too, where, oh, I'm 6'4", I don't need to seal up high on this corner because I can just sit here and wait, and bam, it goes off your face and in. Reinhardt's smart. He did the right thing. Because it was Zdorov and Garland did it in the playoffs last year, right? Just whip it as high and as hard as he can. It's because he doesn't move well post to post, so he's setting up to move to his other post before the proper time,

and he's leaning, and good shooters like Reinhardt are going to pick that spot every time. Do you think the mustache puts him off balance? Yeah, off kilter for sure. Austin and Langley, what we learned, for every person that rips on Canucks fans for being too much, send them the Sherwood chant video. This fan base will rally behind anyone who works hard and gives a you-know-what when they play.

Yeah. Look, they're not doing Kiefer Sherwood chants in Nashville. They didn't. Probably would have kept them if they did. There is a vibe and an understanding, and it's well-documented and well-established. It's the reason everyone says that guys sign in Canadian markets because when you win a cup there, I mean, I hate talking like a teenager,

but it hits different. It just does. We've got a Kiefer Sherwood chant going on. Nice. Only a handful of markets that are going to be chanting Kiefer Sherwood chant going on. Nice. Only a handful of markets that are going to be chanting Kiefer Sherwood and Conor Garland. The fans are great. Especially some of the turd burgers they've been handed this season on home ice. The fans are great.

And there's all the superlatives you want to throw it out there's an understanding there's a nuance there's a a different level of fan engagement and that's why guys sign in canadian markets right and i think that's what uh that's what canadian teams have to lean into and in some ways wouldn't it be kind of neat or maybe a good idea, although possibly risky, if you kind of frame it like, do you have the courage to play in Canada? Ooh, that's a good way of putting it. Do you really want the glory or do you want to be comfortable? Win where it actually matters to people.

I had buddies that were down in Vegas. They went to when Vegas won the cup down there. And they said it was fun. But then they also said, you know, you walk a block

on the strip and everyone's like, was there a hockey game tonight? Right? Like, it's just different. It is different. You know, Mike and I

have been lucky enough to go to a number of Stanley Cups and seen the cup awarded, including some quote-unquote hockey towns, right? But you wouldn't really know it. I mean, we were in, for example, not that this is a hockey town, but we were in L.A. when the Kings won. Right. And I will never forget, it was a game, which year did they win it in overtime 2014 2014 right so we were there and the game went into overtime and uh our press box was actually in the stands it was

one of those auxiliary press boxes so we were kind of sitting with the fans and i needed to go to the urinal at the intermission tmiMI. Before, well, listen, I was walking around the concourse and in the bathroom, and it was like, it's kind of like a regular season game. And I was thinking, man, if this was Vancouver and the Canucks were like one goal away from winning the Stanley Cup, people would just be like freaking out.

Yep. And everyone was like, hey, how are you doing? You know, like, I mean, not when I was at the urinal or anything, but, you know, they were respectful. Enjoying the game? How are you doing? How's it hanging? Looking good.

Looking good. It was just different. And then when they won the cup, we went outside, and people were like, hey, that's cool, man. The Kings won the cup. And then the city just went on about its business. So do you have the guts to want to play in Canada

and try and win a Stanley Cup here? Well, buddy, that's how you phrase it. That's how you phrase it. The answer is no. Nobody. Actually, it's just for tax reasons. It may be a hard market to play in but the rewards will be never ending you can stay in canada in your tiny tiny house broth i'm going down to florida jason brough that's it for you for 2024 right yeah unless there's something big i'll come

back then he did say he would come back if something big happened but like what nothing if uh if he doesn't uh Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, Happy Holidays, all that good stuff. We'll see you on the other side. I'll be here for the remainder of the week. Jamie Dodd is in the chair tomorrow through Friday. We've got a couple Canucks games on the horizon as well. For now, though, we've got to say goodbye.

Signing off, I have been Mike Halford. He's been Jason Brough. He's been A-Dog, and he's been Laddy. This has been the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet. 6.50.