Halford & Brough in the Morning - Another Canucks Season Is Upon Us
Episode Date: October 9, 2024Mike & Jason look back at the previous day in sports (3:00), they preview tonight's Canucks season opener versus the Flames (6:00), plus they talk the latest NHL stories with Sportsnet's David Amber (...27:31). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.
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Their first ever goal by number 11.
On an 0-2 pitch, a missile.
Fernando Tatis Jr. electric.
Hopefully a night's a big thing for everybody.
It's going to get really hard.
Let's do that hockey.
Good morning, Vancouver.
6-0-1 on a Wednesday.
Happy Wednesday, everybody. This is Halford. It is
Brough. It is Sportsnet 650. We are
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Good morning.
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Good morning as well. Laddie, good morning to you
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a good start by me on the first day of the Canucks
season. It's okay. It's not a good
omen. We're going to power through.
We're going to force our way to success. Press to success pressure meets pressure we're gonna embrace the hard all right hard is apparently
turning on your microphone that wasn't your fault that wasn't my fault though you know whose fault
it was t-bars who's to say really it was greg's um okay we got a lot we got a lot to get into
i'm kidding don't give me the look laddie gives me that hound dog expression every time don't
give me that look i didn't even know what you said dog expression every time. Don't give me that look.
I didn't even know what you said.
Don't look at me, Greg.
Don't look at me.
I'm just giving you a look.
Such a Greg move.
Okay, we got a lot to get into on the program today.
Big guest list on, yes, of course, the opening day for your Vancouver Canucks.
I'm going to start, actually, with the rundown for today.
For those of you out there that complain that Sportsnet 650 doesn't have enough local programming,
consider that the pregame show tonight basically begins three hours before puck drop with Canucks Central.
That goes from four to six.
From six to seven, it's the Canucks pregame show. From 7 till whenever, it's the actual Canucks broadcast,
Batch and Randy bringing you the Canucks in flames at 7 o'clock.
Then, after that, until 11.30, it's the Canucks postgame show.
So we are your home for all things Vancouver Canucks,
and all of your live local coverage begins this morning, of course,
with us on the Halford & Brough Show.
Our guest list today, 6.30, David Amber. and all of your live local coverage begins this morning, of course, with us on the Halford & Brough Show.
Our guest list today, 6.30, David Ambers, 7 o'clock, Frank Ceravalli,
7.30, Eric Francis, 8 o'clock, Randy Janda, 8.30, John Shorthouse.
What a lineup.
Shorty's doing our show?
Shorty's going to make an appearance on the radio. Fine, what's the latest I can come?
And the answer is 8.30.
So he will be joining us at 8.30.
It's a lot of Canucks talk, a lot of look ahead at the flames as well we're gonna do that with Eric Francis we're gonna go around the
National Hockey League Frank's gonna be joining us we might have to turn the comments off for that
one and then of course it's 6 30 David Ambers we look forward to tonight there's five games across
the National Hockey League tonight six Canadian teams in action three Canadian games so there's three Canadian games, so there's a lot to get into.
There's a lot to get into
on the show today,
so without further ado,
Laddie, let's tell everybody
what happened.
Hey, did you guys see
the game last night?
No.
No.
What happened?
I missed all the action
because I was...
We know how busy
your life can be.
What happened?
You missed that?
You missed that?
What happened?
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We shall begin with your Vancouver Canucks who returned to practice yesterday.
Made a minor but significant roster move by waving.
Mark, don't call me Elliott Friedman
for the purposes of sending him to Abbotsford.
And then the Canucks got to the business of practicing.
Garland was back on the third line
with Suter and Nils Hoaglander.
The bump down effect means that Aturatu
will likely be a healthy scratch tonight
when the Canucks take on the Flames
in their season opener at Rogers Arena.
Yeah, what are you going to be most curious about tonight
against the Calgary Flames? Probably
Sprong now. After talking to
Talkett yesterday
and trying to shoehorn
in my, I watched Monday Night Football and I saw
that Derek Carr had four different
offensive coordinators in
four years and Daniel Sprong's had seven coaches
in seven seasons.
You know, what's kind of held him back and what's going to elevate him?
Tuckett was pretty impressed with it.
It seemed like he was pretty impressed with how high the ceiling could go.
I think everyone knows how low the floor can go.
Did you notice how much pressure he was putting on them, though,
to take advantage of the situations they're going to be in?
Because the thing I'm going to be most curious about, especially since tonight is a home game and Rick Tockett's going to have
last change, is that he's going to be able to get the matchups he wants.
And it sounds like he's going to try and get some good matchups for that.
You can call it the Sprong line if you want.
I'm going to call it the PD line.
PD, Sprong, and DeBrusque.
I'm out here playing 4D chess because I'm just going to talk about Sprong and DeBrusque.
So I'm not talking about Pedersen while I'm actually talking about Pedersen.
Right.
I've kept it ahead of the game here.
So Sprong is like a proxy for Petey for you?
And then I'm like, who's the second most interesting player?
He talks about Sprong a lot.
Who's the second most interesting player?
I'm like, Jake DeBrusque.
So that's what you do, right?
But that's the line for me.
It's funny how we didn't immediately say the goaltending, though.
Until it, if it craters, not until it craters.
That's a bad way of phrasing that.
If it craters, obviously it's going to jump to the forefront of all discussions.
But, you know, it's funny.
Like you go around the league and you look at all the other pundits
from all the other broadcast networks that are doing their predictions
and everything, and they all kind of say the same thing.
It's like, we're not worried about the Canucks goaltending
because the Canucks don't seem overly concerned.
Oh, you didn't hear Kipper yesterday.
No, did Kipper push back against this narrative?
No, he didn't push back against it.
He just had his own narrative, and he was just like,
the Canucks got to be really worried about this guy.
Really worried about Demko? Yeah okay yeah um yeah see there's two fronts on this one is demko and the other is what's going to happen when demko's out of the
lineup now demko's out for a month or demko's out for multiple months that's a different conversation
yes i think most people are of the opinion that lankanen and Seelovs, or even if just one of them can play well and you can ride that guy,
should be able to – the phrase I hear a lot is hold the fork down
until Demko is back.
But the questions then start, first of all, when is he going to be back?
And second of all, is he going to be able to stay healthy?
Is he going to be at the same level as he was before?
Is he going to have to deal with some discomfort?
Is that going to affect his play?
But that's questions for another time.
Kippers is thinking the long-term worst-case scenario,
which the Canucks are like, la-la-la, we don't want to hear about this.
Let's kick that can down the road,
because the Canucks have the Calgary Flames tonight.
I am also curious, and this is kind of big picture,
because we went into last season
and the Canucks played the Edmonton Oilers
in their first game.
And you'll remember,
they hadn't looked that good in the preseason.
I don't think there were a lot of signals
in the preseason.
I'm not just talking about the 10-0 loss to Calgary
because that was just, I mean, whatever.
They played scrubs in that game.
But overall, I didn't think they looked that good in the preseason.
I don't think there was a lot of things pointing to us
to like this incredible start that they were going to have
and incredible season that they were going to have.
And you remember they started it out by
blowing out the Edmonton
Oilers. It wasn't just like,
oh, they beat the Oilers. They smoked the
Oilers. I think we were
consciously last year looking for what's
going to go wrong, because we were
trained that way.
Yeah, but there wasn't much going right.
There really wasn't. But that's what I'm saying.
And then it ended up being, well, it didn't matter that much wasn't going right
in the preseason because they very quickly figured it out
as soon as the puck dropped for the regular season.
So I'm curious if they're going to be able to just raise the bar again.
And if this is going to be a season of –
do you remember what we used to call the Canucks?
First 2011 reference.
They just knew how to win. They're like clinical winners. Right.? First 2011 reference. They just knew how to win.
They're like clinical winners.
They just knew how to win games, even if they didn't play well.
Sure.
They found ways to win games.
Can the Canucks graduate to that level this year?
Well, it starts tonight.
I don't know if they graduated to that level,
or at least we didn't give them credit for graduating to that level.
We were just happy they were winning games.
We don't need to clinically win games.
Everyone was put away like, yeah, no problem.
No problem.
We know how to do this.
We got a blueprint for this.
That's what I'm hoping the Canucks get to this season.
But until then, every game is going to be kind of like, okay,
well, let's see what they got.
So if you're into the betting side of things, the Calgary Flames,
there's 10 teams in action tonight.
There's five games across the NHL.
Calgary's the biggest underdog on the board across the 10 teams.
So if you want to talk about games that,
and I know it's the first game of the season,
and I know we shouldn't be getting into like expected win games,
but the Canucks, this is the kind of game, the kind of game,
even though it's the first game of the season,
even though it's the home opener and all that stuff,
it's a game that the Canucks should win.
Just hypothetically speaking.
The Seahawks were big favorites over the Giants.
And then, you know, they took care of business, right?
Clinically.
All joking aside,
we might have learned more about who the Seahawks really are
from that loss against the Giants and that loss against the Lions.
For me, anyway.
Because they weren't expected to win that game against the Lions.
And they went in and put a good fight up.
And then it's like, well, what are you going to do now?
And then they went and laid an egg and looked really bad
against a sort of mediocre opponent.
There are some take care of business.
The hockey seasons are very different, obviously, because there's 82 games.
And even Rick Taka was talking about it yesterday.
He was saying, listen, people put too much into the first game.
And naturally we do because it's the first game.
We've been waiting forever to do that.
And he was kind of joking.
People will say if they win 5-0, they're going to win the Stanley Cup.
If they lose 5-0, oh, God, what's going to happen?
There is less pressure on the Canucks this season to
have a good start to the year but overall if you take a step back the expectations are much higher
yeah I was just kind of like conceptually playing off what you were saying where it's like
on a 82 game schedule throughout the course of it there's going to be nights where a good team
plays a not good team and the
good team to prove it is a good team.
We'll take care of business that night.
It might not be flashy.
It might not be,
you know,
can be fully related half the time,
but you get the win.
Good teams know how to win.
It's a cliche for sure,
but it also rings true in situations.
So yeah,
is this game maybe not the perfect example?
Probably, but overall,
Calgary's not expected to be a good team this year.
They probably won't be a good team this year.
They're not very talented.
I think overall the expectation is that
should be the Canucks control this game.
Right.
You know?
I know Calgary's got a potentially good power play,
so that'll be a test for some of the new penalty killers
for the Canucks, but at five on five,
I think if you look at the talent of the Canucks,
the depth of their forward lines, their first pair certainly,
and then you look at the Calgary Flames and what they've got,
the Canucks should control this game at five on five.
They should have more chances to score.
And if they do that, we'll see how it all shakes out.
The NHL had three games yesterday, and it really was confusing with Seattle starting at 1.30 in the afternoon.
Love a Tuesday matinee.
Way to go, NHL.
I'm like, I'm not watching this.
I'm running my errands in the middle of the day.
Why did they do that again?
I was very confused by it.
They wanted a triple header.
They wanted a triple header that didn't overlap.
But your season opener in the afternoon?
I know.
They wanted a triple header,
but I don't understand why they didn't go with,
you know,
I don't know,
like 430 back east
or something like that.
Yeah, they had one game.
No, at any rate,
it doesn't really matter.
The Kraken blew a 2-0 lead.
The St. Louis Blues
exploded for three quick goals
in the second period.
I think they were all
in like two minutes.
A minute and 55 seconds,
three goals.
Pretty stinky goal that Grubauer allowed to Broberg.
Blues fans love this guy.
Yeah.
Huge, huge, great move.
Great move by the management to get him out of Edmonton
to tie the game.
And then 20 seconds later, a sloppy crack in turnover
led to a Jordan Cairo breakaway for his second goal of the game and
ultimately the game winner the first goal had the first game period had no goals third period no
goals second period all the goals um I just wanted to point out that Shane Wright did not have a
point zero points for Shane Wright zero points for Shane Wright so it looks like I was right about
that one did you see that that the Seattle Kraken named
their second ever
captain yesterday?
Right before that game?
Uh, yeah.
Ebbs?
Jordan Everly.
Yeah.
Second ever captain.
They celebrated
his anointment of
being the captain
by blowing a two goalie
and losing 3-2
in their opener,
which was a
Tuesday matinee affair
in Seattle.
So the second game
was Boston
at the Stanley Cup champ, Florida.
Yeah, watch this one.
And how did Corpus Allo look?
He look good?
Look solid?
Okay.
We were talking about this
prior to you coming in.
They got smoked.
And it was,
Corpus Allo wasn't great,
but I don't know how much
of a difference Swayman
would have made in the first period
because the Bruins were awful.
Like they were flat.
It was the kind, you know,
it was Ryan Callahan and John Butugras were on the call for ESPN and they
were, you know,
Callahan kept saying probably one of the tougher openers if you're on the
road is going somewhere where it's the banner raising.
And they,
they actually didn't have the super long pregame ceremony because of the
hurricane.
They had a muted one, but there was still enough energy in the building
and the emotional tribute video to the Stanley Cup champs.
Then Florida came out and they were on fire.
Like, they just physically dominated Boston.
I think the shots at one point were like 15-1, 16-1.
Like, Boston had nothing going in the first period.
And that game was over real quick.
It may have been a bit of a rally the Bruins did late,
but it was a final 6-4 for the panthers over the bruins and i mentioned you mentioned corpus
alo jeremy swayman obviously didn't play they were talking about it they're like are they gonna put
swayman in because corpus alo got singed for four goals in the first period i'm gonna put them in
now but no they didn't they stuck with them and then the bruins made a late rally but it was it
was florida's game pretty much. And the Panthers celebrated by announcing
that they have agreed to an eight-year,
$56 million contract extension for Carter Verhage,
who scored some pretty big goals for them
in the playoffs last year.
He's a good player.
He's a good player.
He has a good story, right?
So the chronology, real quick, is he got drafted by the Leafs.
He got traded to the Islanders.
He got cut from the Islanders.
He went to the ECHL.
Then he managed to crack Tampa Bay's roster.
And then he just kind of bounced around.
He ended up in Florida.
And now he's turned himself into a $56 million player.
He did a lot of that before he was 30.
Yeah. I mean, he's before he was 30. Yeah.
I mean, he's only 29 years old.
Yep.
So is that contract,
is that a comp for Besser?
Statistically, it's got to be, right?
They're pretty similar in terms of statistical profile.
34 goals in 76 games last season.
How old's Besser?
Besser, what is he?
Verhage's 29. Besser's 27. what? Is he Verhagey's 29?
Besser's 27.
27.
He just turned 27 in February.
Okay, so he's a year.
28 next February.
That's how birthdays work.
Right.
So he's maybe like in terms of the contract.
A little bit younger.
A little bit younger?
Yep.
How would everyone feel about that contract for Brock Besser?
29-year-old
Carter Verhage
for eight years
feels like a lot.
You know when you just get your gut reaction
to something and immediately...
Now, you are talking to the guy that doesn't think
any contract should be over four years.
I don't know if I could do it to myself for eight years,
let alone another person. And how old are you?
33. Right.
For anything, right?
I don't think marriages should be that long. Katie's listening. She's like are you? 33. Right. No one for anything, right? Yeah.
I don't even know about hockey.
I don't think marriages should be that long.
Katie's listening.
She's like, no,
just five year deals.
And then if you want to extend,
you extend.
Yeah.
Like four, maybe eight is a lot.
And again,
he's been a very good player for them.
He was a big contributor.
It seemed like every time
that I watched a playoff game last year during the run to the Stanley Cup final, Cardiff or Hagee scored a big contributor. It seemed like every time that I watched a playoff game last year
during their run to the Stanley Cup final,
Cardiff or Hagee scored a big goal.
It seemed like constantly.
So I get it.
It also does feel like a contract
that's paying him retroactively.
It just does.
It feels like Florida,
a little bit,
is paying him like,
thank you for this great run
and thank you for giving us
a lot of value on a cheap contract
prior to this.
And those were always bad deals.
They never turn out well.
Now, we have seen other guys.
But they're also in their window right now.
Sure.
You don't worry about that.
That's really important.
I mean, they're clearly Stanley Cup caliber because they won the Stanley Cup.
They sure did.
So you want to keep that group together as long as you can
and try and win a few more.
Well, my understanding was they did feel the sting of losing so many guys
this past offseason that were key contributors.
Yeah, Montour.
Yeah, and eventually you're going to have to, I mean, Oliver Ekman-Larsen,
like how are you going to compensate for that loss?
You have to keep guys around.
And I think with Verhege, there was a sense of like,
and this is where the
besser comp might get interesting like he came to florida and then just sort of continually proved
his worth and when they they elevated him and asked him to do more in a bigger role verhege
stepped up and did it you know what's the other thing that verhege did last year the best are
also did they scored in the playoffs right i, there's a direct comp right there.
I wonder if the Canucks would go eight years with Besser, though.
That's the thing.
I don't know.
Who knows?
Same logic could apply, though, right?
If you're in your window and you're in your window,
you worry about the now and you worry about the later.
Later, you kick the can down the road.
There was a hockey game in Utah last night, and Utah won it.
Now, they only beat the Chicago Blackhawks,
and the Blackhawks made a bit of a push in the end, although it ended up being 5-2 because Utah had a couple of empty netters
that overbetters loved, by the way.
How about that crowd, though?
I got to say, that caught me by surprise.
I wasn't sure what to expect.
They were excited.
They were rocking.
They are very excited.
It was very, very loud.
Are we giving them a standing ovation for being loud in the first ever game?
It's nice to see.
Did you think they'd be?
Did it not warm your cold, dead heart to see hockey fans enjoy hockey in Utah?
This is the narrative.
No, I've never dreamt of hockey fans in Utah.
It was a nice moment.
You know, if I could have one wish.
Yeah, exactly.
The good people of Salt Lake City have a hockey team to cheer for.
It was a very nice moment.
I'm going to interrupt here because the narrative that A-Dog is pushing
is the one that I brought up yesterday that I kind of am skeptical about, too.
That people are pushing that the move to Utah is going to be the magic elixir
that's going to push this organization over the top.
I don't know about that.
That's exactly what they were like.
But the season opener was impressive.
Goal?
What was impressive about it?
The crowd was loud.
That was it.
I mean, that's what I mean.
Did you see the crowd in the Canucks games in the playoffs last year?
They were loud, too.
This is Utah.
Yeah, but what did you expect?
I didn't expect that.
I wasn't sure.
What expansion team has been like, meh?
To be honest, I wasn't sure what to expect.
I was not sure what the crowd would be like
in Utah. Well, did you think that they might not sell it out or
something? No, I figured
they'd sell it out, but I wasn't sure how loud it would
be. It was really, really loud. It's a loud building
too. The fans are really into it.
No, that's good. I'm not trying. Whether that
continues after the first game, we'll see, but as far
as that game goes, it was really cool. But if you go
and you look up stories on Utah Hockey Club right now,
go Google them.
Everyone is talking about the magical atmosphere and how.
And I'm like, that's great.
Like, it's good that they got out of Mullet Arena,
and it's good that they're in a sort of semi-real NHL rank,
and they've got passionate, engaging fans.
And they got a real owner, right?
Even though he kind of gives me startup ceo vibes every time
i see him the fact that the home crowd is cheering for the home yes that's a big part of it too
i'm not ready to make the leap to brough i'm not i'm not making the leap oh they're cheering
and skipping red star well a red star red one what are they coming what's going on right now
statement about utah i'm trying to find hold on hold on i'm trying to find the happy medium What are they, communists? What's going on right now? Gold star. Statement about Utah.
I'm trying to find the happy medium between your lovable naivete
and Bruff's constant negativity.
Somewhere in the middle.
Okay, can I just admit something?
I was only flipping there once in a while anyway because I was like,
I'm not watching Utah-Chicago when the Padres-Dodgers game is on.
The real crowd.
Apologies.
Apologies.
Because that Padres-Dodgers game was awesome.
It was a very interesting game because it started out.
Great pitching battles down the stretch.
It started out with a lot of runs.
But down the stretch, there were none.
And the Padres held on for a 6-5 win.
And, man, you know what like it's just great to see the excitement of the fans in San Diego I just love to see fans excited I don't
know what I mean they're respecting but they finally got a baseball team yeah they got a
baseball I mean that is an intense crowd what that was last night uh the final out, the final strike was incredible.
So maybe I'm disrespecting Utah a little bit.
Maybe a little.
And because I'm like, I only flipped over there a couple times.
I'm like, oh, Dylan Gunther scored.
Good for him.
Who cares?
Flipped back to the baseball game, which actually has gravity.
Yeah.
Dylan Gunther scored twice, as a matter of fact.
Something Dan Riccio pointed out on Twitter.
I'll add.
What levels of upset would it be if the Padres pulled it off? twice as a matter of fact something dan riccio pointed out on twitter i'll add uh what levels
of upset would it be if the padres pulled it off not as big as when they beat the dodgers
when they beat the dodgers in 2022 the dodgers were a 111 win team like they were dominant
dominant uh this padres team is is loaded and we were talking about our new favorite closer
robert suarez prior to the show and i love his pitch selection because it's like fastball, fastball, fastball, change up, fastball, fastball.
And he was like clocking 101.
And it's funny now because the closers, I was talking to my buddy who's the big Padres fan.
And he's like, ooh, I don't know.
They're asking Suarez to get four outs.
I'm like, come on, man.
There's been a lot of blown saves in these playoffs.
And good closers, too.
It's one of the things that I don't like about modern baseball.
Right.
They're like, it's like us complaining about working for three hours.
Yeah, hope his arm doesn't fall off.
Yeah, it's four outs, man.
Come on.
He throws 101 miles an hour.
He can do it.
Anyway, it was a good game last night.
Also, the Grimace-led New York Mets got a win as well.
So they now push the Phillies. game last night. Also, the Grimace-led New York Mets got a win as well, so they
now push the Phillies. So the Phillies and the Dodgers,
who have been sitting in wait for the
wild card to be over and the DS are just sitting there
waiting, they're on the verge of being
eliminated in the best of fives.
The Mets, who are on quite the roll,
Pete Alonso, another home run,
so they beat the Phillies 7-2,
so they're up to one of their best
of five. The Padres are up to one of their best of five.
So those could be over real quick.
There's going to be a lot of channel flipping tonight.
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Sportsnet, a very fine company and a fantastic broadcasting outfit,
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Had the baseball, and then you had, you know, I'm flipping back,
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Dana White's Survivor Series
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to stay with
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He's 31 years old, so
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If he was in Florida, he might.
Right.
They give everyone term.
Carter Verhage, Sergei Bobrovsky.
Shusterkin wants a 12-year deal.
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on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650.
Good morning, David. How are you?
I'm doing well, guys.
I like the little club track you played as you were getting through the news.
And congrats to Ottawa because remember how ugly the whole Swayman episode was?
They quietly just went about their business.
They signed their guy.
It wasn't a rental.
Bring in for one year.
They finally have some goaltending stability.
So that's a great storyline.
Meanwhile, the earth, it's scorched earth.
Everything's on fire in Toronto right now.
As Elliot Friedman dropped a freach bomb, if you want to call it that and said that Dennis Hill will be is on his way
to Montreal to join the Leafs.
And we're not exactly sure what the situation is for your listeners who are
unfamiliar with Dennis Hill to be sort of the young up and coming goalie for
the Leafs.
And that's a nice storyline,
but kind of like when you bring in,
she loves you're going,
well,
what the heck's going on with the guys who are supposed to be in that? So the question is,
what's going on with Joseph Wall, who was supposed to be the starter tonight in the season opener
versus Montreal? So there is some drama certainly brewing in Leafs land already, and it's not even
game one yet. How are Leafs fans feeling about the goaltending situation, regardless of what
happened today? You know what actually guys
they're feeling well i can't speak for everyone but the people i've spoken to and certainly the
analysts we have um luke gastik has great things to say about stolarz who he played with uh calls
him a great athlete uh some of our other analysts were actually pretty uh excited nick kiprios
justin bourne just sort of said
the addition of Stolar is a guy who's won a cup,
a guy who had the best five-on-five expected goals
against in the entire league last year,
albeit as a backup to Sergei Bobrovsky,
a guy who's 6'7", you know, isn't in the infancy of his career.
I think he's 29 or something along those lines,
but he has a pedigree here as a guy who's sort of established himself in the league to some degree and if joseph won it
was a massive caveat uh which seems to be going in the wrong direction potentially now but if
joseph walk could stay healthy which he hasn't been able to do um that they like the tandem a
lot of people were actually saying they've strengthened their goaltending position compared
to samsonov who you know just had so many mental breakdowns in his in his time in toronto
and um and what they had last year so there was some optimism and maybe that's all out the window
now i can't wait to see what happens the drama's already started and he'll be should be expected
to be with the leafs tonight so we'll see what this all means. Who's the last goalie in Toronto that was like a long-term goalie
that pretty much everyone trusted?
Curtis Joseph.
Yeah, Cujo.
He's the first guy to walk the line.
Cujo.
The answer is Cujo.
That's a long time to wait.
Felix Potten.
Yeah.
Johnny Bauer.
No, it's been a while.
You know, they've had like – listen, Freddie Andersonerson had some great moments but you're talking yourself
into him i can hear you right now right yeah that's what i'm talking about i'm trying to
i'm old now i'm trying to jog my memory i was there was a there was a massive butt coming here
guys and the massive butt was was he got injured a lot and he you know we were even seen in carolina
and they're it's not it's not saying he's you know not a gamer I mean he had blood clots last year like that's a legitimate problem but he did have a lot of injuries in Toronto and you just didn't know
when you're going to get them in the net so yeah it's been a while guys that's been one of the
that's been pardon me that's been one of the issues but I again whenever I get asked about
the goaltending in the Leafs I say one. Why have they been eliminated all these years in the playoffs?
It has nothing to do with goaltending.
It actually has nothing to do even with defense.
It has a lot to do with the fact that this dynamic offense that's during the regular season,
a top one, two, three, four scoring unit, dries up.
They went one for 21 in the series versus Boston.
And here's something that's startling.
So the Leafs have played in five winner-take-all,
one-game elimination, winner-move-on scenarios
in the last seven years.
So this group, five of them, right?
Montreal, they played Boston.
They've had a couple.
Tampa, they had a game seven.
They lost.
Columbus, they had that best of fives during the bubble.
In those five losses, they've scored a grand total of four goals.
Think about that.
It's hard to win when you're scoring zero goals or one goal.
So that's what it comes down to.
Overtime game seven versus Boston, they lost two to one.
I mean, Samsonov wasn't perfect.
He certainly played well enough for them to win.
So again, it comes down to goals are harder to come
by that time of year. And the core four who are so dynamic during the regular season have a much
more difficult time putting up numbers. So if you really, you know, I'm simplifying it, but it's not
necessarily just as easy as saying, well, if they had a better goalie, they'd be, you know, they
would have much greater playoff success in the last seven, eight years. So why are things going
to be different this year? Or why do they hope or think things are going to be different this year?
They've got a new head coach in Craig Berube,
but he's not exactly known for run-and-gun hockey.
Why do they think that the problems that have faced them in the past,
the ones you just mentioned, are going to change?
I think you just said it.
Craig Berube is not known for run-and-gun hockey.
Run-and-gun hockey doesn't necessarily win you just said it. Craig Berube is not known for run and gun hockey. Run and gun
hockey doesn't necessarily win you. It doesn't win you a Stanley Cup. Which team allowed the
fewest goals in the league last year? Florida Panthers. Hey, they won the Stanley Cup, right?
You know, it's not as simple as that, but I think to play a brand of hockey that's much more north,
south, much less east, west. Colby Armstrong said it best that we're doing a little television hit
with him and basically said you know the leafs need to figure out how to live another day
you know if it's if you're going in on a two on three through the neutral zone you don't have to
try and make something happen there's no harm in dumping it in live to see another day live to see
another opportunity um you know, be opportunistic.
Don't try and force things.
And often these guys are so good, so creative up front,
you know, I think there's arrogance might be a strong word,
but I think there's a confidence that they can make things happen. And then the puck goes the other way.
And next thing you know, it's in your net or you're getting pressed
and having shots on goal and having pressure, et cetera.
I think between the philosophy that Craig Berube is going to bring a different
style of hockey, plus, you know, I don't need to tell your audience this.
I mean, you know, Chris Tanev, a legitimate, you know, stud defenseman.
Finally, they have that compliment for Morgan Riley.
And I know he's 34 years of age,
but he plays the prototypical winning style of hockey that you see in the playoffs.
We saw that with Brandon Montour, with Aaron Eckblad.
We saw that with guys in Florida last year.
We saw that the year before with Petro Angelo and Shea Theodore in Vegas.
We saw it the year before with guys in Colorado, Josh Manson, etc.
That's the kind of guy the Leafs have coveted and wanted.
They thought they had it a few years ago with Jake Mutz,
and he got injured right away and wasn't able to be that guy.
If Chris Tanev could be that perfect complement to Morgan Riley,
that right-handed shot stay-at-home defenseman, that really helps things.
If they get the OEL from Florida, a guy who also won a Stanley Cup last year,
and not the Vancouver OEL, that really helps things.
So I think between shoring up their blue line,
bringing in Berube, a year more maturity
on their core group of guys,
that there is a confidence there that they could be,
this could be the year.
We'll see, but there is at least a little bit more optimism.
What's the hook for the Habs this year?
I mean, it was, for me at least,
I wanted to see how Patrick Laine looked.
And then he got hurt, so unfortunate, during the preseason.
Are we talking about some of the young guys on that team?
Absolutely.
It's another year of learning for the Montreal Canadiens, essentially.
How do you guys feel about them?
They finished 27th in the league last year.
We don't talk much about them.
We honestly like for how many Stanley Cups they've won and how,
I mean, I think the league is so much better when Montreal is good
and relevant, but they are not relevant in our market.
I don't know about Toronto.
Yeah, I mean, what I would say about Montreal is they're in a rebuild
and they're in the middle of it.
And to be honest with you, I think it's pretty exciting, right?
When I look at the young blue line, like this Lane Hudson,
keep an eye on Lane Hudson.
I consider him Quinn Hughes' light.
He's smaller than Quinn Hughes, but, boy, can he skate and move the puck.
He's got a little bit of Adam Fox in him.
He's just so crafty.
That would be the word I use.
He's fun to watch.
Logan Millieu is another up-and-coming young defenseman they have.
Reinbacher, we know, has the knee injuries out for six months,
but he's a guy I'm talking about two years from now or even next year.
Gooley.
So they have these great little nucleus of young defensemen coming up.
They have all sorts of draft capital,
which I expect them to move some to get some more legitimate,
ready-to-go NHL players into the mix.
They're probably trying to find the right suitor to move some of their draft capital.
And then up front with Slavkovsky, Caulfield, and Suzuki,
you do have a nice nucleus, and potentially Kirby Dock, who's only 23 years of age.
So you do have a nice nucleus, but they're just not ready.
When you look through the Atlantic and you've got staring down Kucherov,
you're staring down Matthews, you're staring down Pasternak,
you're staring down legitimate superstars.
And these guys aren't on that level yet.
And collectively, they're just not ready to make that jump.
But there is some optimism moving forward, and they're building.
Kent Hughes is doing a good job.
Jeff Gordon and Kent Hughes and Martin St. Louis, guys, this is pretty funny.
He's the fifth longest tenured coach in the league.
I know.
It's crazy.
It's nuts, right?
It's crazy.
Yeah, and there'll be a question
once they get to a certain stage.
Is Martin St. Louis the guy
who's been there to help develop
these young players?
Is he the guy to take you through?
And by all accounts right now,
you'd say yes, but yes, never no.
So they do have some chips
to play down the road
if they get to that stage.
But as it stands right now,
I think what you're selling,
if you're selling the Montreal Canes,
you're selling hope and optimism for the future.
And they're a good,
fun,
young,
young dynamic group.
They haven't had a 40 goal score guys since Vinny damn Foose.
I know.
Think about that.
They haven't had a lead.
I mean,
we've talked about that.
When we do talk about the Habs,
we talk about them in the sense that they just have had elite forward centers in a long time.
We were talking,
we were bringing up Kovalev for some sort of comparison.
I mean, it has been a long time.
And I think for all the studs that they've got on the back end,
and definitely the future does look promising on the back end,
they need to find a difference maker up front.
That's not going to be just like, Suzuki's good, okay?
Caulfield is good, but I think if they were on a Stanley Cup winning team,
they probably wouldn't be the best forwards.
Yeah, and listen, that's a fair statement.
The only caveat I'll put there is they're incredibly young, right?
Let them grow and mature into what they're going to be.
We haven't seen the best of Nick Suzuki.
All Nick Suzuki's done is every year scored more goals
and had more points than the previous year.
That's all you could ask him to do.
And he plays every game.
He has not missed a game professionally, right?
And he takes all the big draws, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Could Nick Suzuki be that guy?
He could be that guy.
Is he going to be a 120-point guy?
No, but there's not that many of those.
I mean, but he might be a 90-point
guy who does everything you want to do.
So I'm
not ready to discount
him yet, and I do think Caulfield, when
all is said and done, will be the next 40-goal score
on Montreal. He's just that dynamic.
So I think there is some
optimism there, guys, but I don't think anyone
is picking them.
You know, they're Canada's longest long shot
to win a Stanley Cup or make the playoffs,
and I think that's very reasonable expectations for them.
Well, let's talk about Canada's favorite to win the Stanley Cup,
and that is the Edmonton Oilers,
who will play the Winnipeg Jets
in the second game of the Canadian Tripleheader tonight.
We talked about this a little bit,
I think it was with Ferraro yesterday
and how the Oilers have allowed a lot of goals
in the preseason and Dry Saddle has been so-so
and they're trying to figure out
who are going to be the top wingers there.
Skinner, I think, has looked so-so,
but it was the preseason.
I'm just really curious to see how
the Oilers start the season
because they'll want to
avoid the type of start they had last season, but I also think it might be tough for them
coming off going all the way to game seven of the Stanley Cup final and knowing now that it's
not a sprint, it's a marathon marathon that maybe things won't feel so urgent
to start the season for them.
Did you see McDavid's media availability yesterday?
And he was asked about coming so close,
and he just said, guys, we're done talking about last year.
And I think that's going to be the strong messaging
throughout that dressing room.
We're not guaranteed anything.
It's not automatic you get back to a Stanley Cup final.
We have to earn everything.
We saw how poorly we started last year.
You know, let's turn the page.
I think what will help them is, as you mentioned,
they added Skinner, they added Arvidsson,
they've added a few different parts,
different guys who weren't part of that run last year.
And I just think the overall maturity of the group
will assist them in moving forward.
This isn't a young, you know,
Zag Heimann and Corey Perry.
These guys have been in the league a long time
and they're not going to get caught up
in sort of the hype of being the Stanley Cup favorites.
Having said that, you know,
there's going to be some question marks.
The blue line doesn't look like
a Stanley Cup winning blue line, top to bottom.
It just doesn't, right?
Like, you go through the teams that win the Stanley Cup,
they all have the Victor, Hedmans, Petrangelo,
they have these stud guys there.
And when you look at Edmonton, and Bouchard is an elite, elite,
elite offensive defenseman, but I don't think he's, you know,
I don't think when guys are in the offensive zone against Edmonton,
they're, oh, Bouchard's on the ice.
I better look out.
He's not a closed-down, shut-down guy.
Darnell Nurse is good.
He's had to be stretched in all the minutes,
and sometimes that takes a toll on him
and who they're going to partner with him this year
to get the best out of Darnell Nurse, who's such a key cog for them.
So there's things they're figuring out as well, guys.
But you have time to figure it out.
And unlike being the Montreal Canadiens in the Atlantic Division,
the Edmonton Oilers in the Pacific Division,
which many would argue is the weakest division, sort of top to bottom, right?
Obviously, you have Vancouver and Vegas, et cetera,
but it's not as deep or as good as some of the other divisions.
So they're going to have the ability to sort of sort things out
and get their footing and go from there.
But I don't think there'll be that sort of Stanley Cup hangover.
I just think the group is too driven and too mature to fall into that trap.
I noticed that a lot of people on the Sportsnet.ca NHL Insider predictions have Edmonton winning
the Stanley Cup, an overwhelming amount, as a matter of fact.
Are you in that group?
I am. I am.
I am.
And I thought about it for a little bit.
I mean, listen, they're predictions.
I'm wrong every year, so don't worry about that.
Did anyone have Vancouver?
I'm not sure.
Nope.
There was majority Edmonton.
There was a couple Floridas.
There was a Dallas.
There was a New Jersey.
That's it.
Huh.
Did no Rangers? Didn't anyone have the Rangers or no? Not a Dallas. There was a New Jersey. That's it. Huh. Oh, did no Rangers?
Didn't anyone have the Rangers or no?
Not a one.
Overwhelmingly Edmonton.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like here, look.
I hope they miss the playoffs.
Yeah.
As a neutral observer, I hope they won, crash, and burn.
But two, I definitely understand why.
It's the perfect recipe and formula.
They got as close as you can get last year,
and they're hungry, and all the narrative cliches are there.
They also...
And they have Conor McDavid.
Yeah.
Right in the world.
And then, you know what?
I've said, I think the Evander Kane thing
might end up being addition by subtraction.
Also, you get Arvidson coming on board for cheap and Skinner coming on board
for cheap. They tick a lot of boxes
for a team that went to the Stanley Cup final last year.
So I get it from
that standpoint.
Look, at the end
of the day, it's McDavid.
He's going to win one. Can we just add
how much more
interesting McDavid is now
that he's been to a big game agreed win or lose and
we've seen i mean behind the scenes stuff but more that his his narrative is so much more
interesting than it was before last year when he was just yeah he's really good and we said so many
times on this show is like he's gotta play in a big game he's gotta good. And we said so many times on this show, it's like, he's got to play in a big game.
He's got to.
And, you know, people say, well, he played in the, you know,
conference finals.
Like, yeah, they got swept.
He didn't really play in a big game.
He's played in a game seven now.
So that's like, that adds to this.
Like, now he's got this burning desire to overcome what happened last year.
For me, it just makes him so much more compelling
yeah you know what i'm so glad we got to see a little bit a glimpse into how competitive
he is and we already knew that but to see it so raw so visceral what he's just it's not good
enough when he's just chewing out the team and you know we're in the finals right now and you know he's got what michael jordan and what sydney crosby and what you know tiger woods he has
that killer instinct it's a different game it's not tiger woods who can just control everything
on his own he can only control what he can bring to the table but it was just good to see
that sort of intensity from him because you're right when you do the interviews
with him he's so monotone he's so vanilla he doesn't give you a lot um but you know i want
to bring up a point you when you're making about evander kane evander kane could be the kucherov
for edmonton yep imagine a healthy evander kane rolling in day one of the playoffs a mark stone
right it's that that meme we see on on the internet of that wrestler who's in the wheelchair
and then jumps up, you know, with a fake cast, right?
Like, it could be one of those,
it could be that moment for Edmonton.
So they might be adding a power forward
without, you know, without helping circumvent
the salary cap because he's supposed to be gone
for the next six months,
which would take him literally to April,
literally to the Stanley Cup playoffs.
So we don't know that that's going to be the case but there's certainly a lot of interest that they're
they're stockpiling their team getting ready for you know it's funny they're probably one of the
only teams where it's like stanley cup or bust yeah you can't another fan wouldn't be like oh
great we got to the stanley cup final no that would be disappointing to them it's stanley cup
or bust for that one group,
and that's an incredible amount of pressure.
So that's going to be a really interesting storyline.
And as you said, I think it adds a little bit of interest. It adds another level to the interest surrounding the game's greatest player.
And when all is said and done, guys, if he can get 18 points in the first 10 games,
he becomes the third fastest ever to 1,000 points.
We're not watching just a great player.
We're watching
one of the all-time great players so i think that's pretty cool uh it is also a great i hope
he has success for canada at the four nations and the olympics yeah i can't i can't wait to cheer
for him you know and not be terrified of him that's what i'm looking forward to a quick question
who do you give the seat to because this is something i've been debating is it is it cross that's what i say i say it's
crosby he's still playing an elite level it's not sort of the old uh lifetime achievement award like
he's still and he's a guy that people galvanize to and he's done it on the international stage
you know no no greater than in vancouver in 2010 is there a guarantee that sid makes the olympic
team though he'd have to fall off pretty hard, I'd say.
Oh, was he not one of the – I don't even remember.
Was he not one of the first five named?
No, I'm talking about the Olympic team.
The four-nation team.
Oh, the Olympic team.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, nothing's guaranteed.
Like, a lot can happen between – you know, it's two years.
But, I mean, if he's anything close to what he is now,
I don't see how you'd keep him off of it. Right. It isn't – That to me two years. But, I mean, if he's anything close to what he is now, I don't see how you keep him off of it.
Right.
It is.
That to me, yeah.
Sorry, go on.
It's okay.
I was just going to say, it's an awesome lineup tonight, by the way,
for those that don't know.
In addition to the three all-Canadian matchups,
you've also got Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins hosting the New
York Rangers at 430.
And then the three games starting 7 o'clock our time tonight,
you get Edmonton hosting Winnipeg, Vancouver, of course, hosting Calgary.
And then you got Vegas, Colorado as well.
Those are three good games.
That's a pretty good night for hockey.
So, David, without –
And Padres, Dodgers.
And we got the baseball.
So, David, without letting you go, I know you got a lot on your plate for today.
Enjoy tonight.
It should be a lot of fun.
We'll do this again next Wednesday.
Yeah, we're really excited
to have it going.
And yeah, you know what?
I'm hopeful for a really great year
for the Canucks.
We've got Demko back in that.
And let's see what they can start out
with tonight against Calgary.
So thanks, guys.
Enjoy and enjoy the games tonight.
Thanks, David.
David Amber,
Hockey Night Canada,
Sportsnet NHL host here
on the Halford & Brough Show
on Sportsnet 650.
Hour one in the week.
He's so positive. We should be more positive like David Amber. He's always looking on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet. 6.50. Hour one in the books. He's so positive.
We should be more positive like David Amber.
He's always looking on the bright side of things.
It's a nice feeling, you know?
It makes you warm inside.
I bet he loved that crowd in Utah last night.
He loved it.
He just loved it.
Just warmed his heart.
His heart is like your heart is too warm.
Checking his Twitter.
Can confirm.
He did mention it.
Historical Utah Hockey Club. Hashtag Utah Hockey Club. Zooming confirm he did mention it. Historic goal, Utah Hockey Club.
Hashtag Utah Hockey Club. Zooming on rough, watching it,
it's like the Grinch thing where it zooms on the heart
and it's like...
Nice goal, should have stopped it.
Actually, you know what? The goal,
all joking aside... It was a very nice goal.
All joking aside, the Canucks could have
had Dylan Gunther. He's got a really
good shot. Quick release.
He's a good player.
I just try not to think about that whole thing
because it makes me sad.
Well, to warm everyone's hearts,
Frank Zeravelli is coming up next
on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650.