Halford & Brough in the Morning - Can Team Canada Keep Things Going Today Versus The Swiss?
Episode Date: February 13, 2026In hour two, Mike & Jason do some Ask Us Anythings (3:00), plus they preview today's Men's hockey matchup featuring Canada and the Swiss with Olympic commentator Matt Cullen (26:18). This podcast is p...roduced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.
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What up, AJ?
What is going on?
How's everybody?
Everybody giddy over that big win?
Yeah, man.
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You guys have taken the internet by storm.
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How's it going out there?
It's good. It was great. I mean, as I
said, I'm not that smart to be
human, so opening up on Super Bowl
was fun, but it was great.
It was awesome. It's been, it's been
well-received. You know,
there's always some bumps
in the road, but yeah, we were open
Wednesday. We were open last
night and we're open for take-out and delivery
all weekend. I think today
starts at four, ends at nine,
and then Saturday, Sunday,
started 11.
So, yeah, it's good.
You know, you've got to take some,
you've got to take some punches.
You know, you're in a,
it's a long fight.
Yeah.
But it's great.
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So just to confirm,
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AJ, thank you very much for doing this today, bud.
We really appreciate it.
Yeah.
Enjoy the weekend.
Enjoy the weekend.
Sounds great, and it looks like it's going to be a collision course of gold, isn't there?
We'll do this next week.
I'm just throwing it out.
We'll do this next week.
Thanks, buddy.
Everybody enjoy.
Take care.
Have a good one.
Bye.
AJ from AJ's pizza on East Broadway.
Having moved here from the beautiful US of A, AJ's allegiances are somewhat torn.
Right.
We're trying to convert them before the gold medal game.
We'll see what happens there.
John Schneider is converted.
I was going to say that.
John Schneider's converted.
He's cheering for Canada.
If Schneider can do it, AJ can do it.
Okay.
Call AJ back.
AJ's been in Vancouver longer than Schneider was.
We got him on the phone.
Yeah, that's true, actually.
Schneider was here for a cup of coffee.
That's right.
A reminder, in light of AJ being on the show,
it is Ask Us Anything Friday here on the Halford and Brough show on Sportsnet, 650.
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Jason, do you have one at the ready?
Yeah, there's lots.
Jay with an Ask Us Anything.
How are you going to feel if Tom?
Wilson pancakes Quinn Hughes in the metal round.
Great.
Feel great.
Yeah, I think the word is fantastic.
As long as there's no penalty on the play.
Two minutes for pancakeing.
That's tough.
We're five in a game, I guess.
You could get international rules.
That's going to be the game plan.
Well, part of the game plan is going to be getting on those American defensemen who are very, very good.
And it's probably, frankly, it's going to be the American game plan with the Canadian
defensemen as well.
Quinn Hughes got a goal wiped off the board yesterday against Latvia.
One of the many goals, one of the many goals wiped off the boards.
The Latvians were hanging in there with challenges.
They were like, you know those posters at winners when you go and it's like hang in there and it's a cat dangling from a piece of string?
That was Latvia yesterday after the first period.
Because on paper, after 20 minutes, one won, you'd be like, yeah, Latvia's pretty happy about this, but they were under siege.
Is it two disallowed goals, a post and Latvia scored the equalizer after the U.S. went up on a Brady Kachuk goal.
Is there any way the Canadians just,
roll through this tournament.
Same way the U.S. might.
US has the easiest group,
without question.
I'm talking about the tournament.
I know.
So think about it right now.
I do not see,
after what they did to Chequia,
I do not see a more difficult game
on the horizon for the Canadians.
In the group stage.
In the group stage.
They got Switzerland today and then France on Sunday.
Can't see either.
So they're good against you.
But I'm not talking about the group stage.
I'm talking about,
you,
I mean,
defensively in Sochi.
Defense, they were incredible.
Yep.
And, you know, you could say that they dominated that tournament,
but it was more like people like Canada suffocated everyone.
What happens in this tournament occasionally?
But what I'm asking you is could the Canadians roll through this tournament
in a different way than Sochi in a way that they're just like,
I don't want to say running and gunning,
but whatever we saw yesterday, which was domination from not only a defensive performance,
but more like offensive.
of skill. The only hiccup I could see is if one of the perennial power, right now I'm looking at
Sweden, is if Sweden falls into not getting an automatic buy into the quarters and is in the
qualification, it isn't seated low, and then they would play Canada in the quarters earlier than
normal. I think that would probably interrupt this run of what you're saying like steamrolling.
I mean, just in terms of talent, Jason, just in terms of the most talented opponents,
Sweden would still possess it. They'd still have quality net mining in a very good blue.
line and some dynamic guys up front.
Are they underperforming right now? Yes.
Is the team a mess?
I mean, I've done a lot of Google
translation of Swedish news outlets
this morning and they are very
displeased with how this team
has performed through two games. There were hints that there was
going to be issues heading into this
tournament. I don't like I don't think Neelander's
100% again, Leo Carlson missing
Zabana Jed and PD not
peak form like up front
Sam-Lam is
clearly trying to find something that work.
and he's looking around and he's going like,
are any of you guys going for me?
Because I can't play Joel Erickson-Eck much more.
There are a lot of complaints about the job that Sam Halam.
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I mean, Pedersen's not on any of the power plays,
not on the first unit power play,
not on the second unit power play.
I think he got a sniff on the second power play unit today,
but it was also with the goalie pulled.
But I think this is what happened at the Four Nations, right?
Yes.
I mean, Sam Halam did play Pedersen in the first game
and played him, and then Pederson didn't play.
And then you have to work.
work your way back into the coach's good books.
And Pedersen, even if you can say, like, he hasn't been dreadful,
he hasn't been dominant either.
He hasn't been, he hasn't had the type, I mean,
had a good third period against Italy.
You know, Italy was out of gas.
They were done, right?
And it wasn't that great.
It wasn't, it didn't score.
Sure.
It wasn't, he set a nice screen on a goal, you know,
hit the post.
And you got to do more.
you ought to do more to earn your coach's stress
but it's not just Pedersen
yeah like this whole team if
if we were if this was Canada
we'd be going up and down the lineup and being like
what's this guy bringing what's this guy bringing
no it's true uh this isn't ask us anything from
Sadie what would be more difficult
and uh spoiler alert the dogs and I talked about this prior
to the show playing hockey and figure skates
or figure skating in hockey skates
so we're going to set some parameters here
you would have to be at the highest level of your competition.
By that I mean, you would have to do all the things
that a figure skater and or a hockey player would do at the highest level.
So let's take the Olympics, for example.
Now, my first thought was just you could not do the jumps required
for figure skating in hockey skates.
You don't have the toe pick to push off on, right?
You could do some of them.
You can attempt it, but it would be it.
I find trying to hit a quad in hockey skates seems like it would be a real challenge.
A figure skaters repertoire would be very,
very limited with hockey skates
whereas a hockey skater
in figure skates all the awkward
but you couldn't make tight cuts
yeah but you'd at least be able to stay up
you'd be falling down a lot
you'd be falling down and you
catch that toe pick a couple times
figure skating or hockey mean if you're playing hockey
yeah yeah it would be extremely difficult
I believe if I'm not mistaken
our point of reference for this was the movie
Goon in which Goon showed up
for his first practice
Mighty Ducks too has a
He was still able to fight I will say that he was very good at
fighting still. The toe pick helped him fight. I think it'd be equally disastrous. I think so.
But I think with figure skating, like it's ruined. You're not competing. Yeah, figure skating
I think I don't know if you're getting in the game with the figure skates either. Unless you're just,
I'll just run this off the half wall. Yeah. It's a really great. You could participate. I feel like you
you wouldn't even be able to participate. I think they should explore this. I think they should
strap Connor McDavid on some strap some figure skates on Connor McDavid and make him skate around for a while.
Have you guys seen the video and actually retweeted it the other day?
Have you seen the video of Nathan McKinnon racing a speed skater?
Yes.
And it's obviously not a full race.
It's an acceleration race.
Yeah.
Nate wins.
Yeah.
Not by much.
Not by much.
And, look, I mean, if the speed skater gets going up to speed, he's going to,
because it's so much easier to glide on the speed skates.
But go watch the acceleration that McKinnon has.
Just Google it up.
Nathan McKinnon versus speed skater.
find it really quickly and how he cuts into the ice with his skates and the power that's involved
in there. It's almost like sprinting. It is it, it's incredible. The speed skier actually
comment is that the sound made you were making was terrifying. It was distracting him because it was so
noisy. The crunching into the ice. Yeah. It's a, I mean, we all know that I love Nathan
McKinnon. Like that guy is a hockey player. Okay, another ask us anything.
This one's for you, Laddie.
It's from Sunny.
Would Jordan Bennington go to the Hall of Fame if he wins gold?
You'd have a Stanley Cup, you'd have Four Nations, and you'd have Olympic gold.
There's not many goalies, not many goalies that can say that.
I'll answer this one.
Okay, you answer, you handle this.
It's a no because he has no individual accolades.
None.
It's like a Chris Osgood scenario.
He's got good.
He's got good numbers still.
He's got a ton of cups, and he still's not in there because he wasn't the reason they won those cups.
Everybody knows this.
The only thing that separates him.
Bittington was a big reason why the Blues won the cup.
Yeah, but back to Halford's point, he doesn't have the numbers that Osgood had throughout his career.
The only difference between him and Osgood is that when it came time to pick the best goal that to represent your country, Canada never came knocking for Osgood.
And Canada did come knocking for Binnington.
Different eras.
So he's got that.
He's got that on.
If Chris Osgood was in the United States, he did.
NHL right now, he would probably be team Canada's
goal tend. No.
No. Yes.
No. No way. The starting goalie
for the Detroit Red Wings would not start for Canada.
Everyone had the same knock on Osgood.
And he had no body of reference.
Versus this group of goalies in the NHL right now.
Also, Osgood was tiny
even by the standard of the day.
I was just talking about, yeah.
I don't think they would. I think that they would
probably go with quite frankly the three that they have.
You got to remember
like Ozgood, he lost
that net several times for the Red Wings.
They tried to find his replacement.
He might be losing his net in St. Louis.
Yeah, well, all I'm saying is that
that comp is fine in terms of like their career
what they've won and it's more team accolades than individual.
You'd be hard pressed to go in to the Hall of Fame as a goal if you had
never won a Vesna, never been in consideration for a heart trip.
Hard for any player to get in without the individual accolades.
Yeah, you know what I mean?
But I'm not going to lie.
When I first saw that ask us anything, I was like, this is a crazy.
easy question and the more I thought about it. It's not
crazy. The conversation
is somewhat legit. I have a question for you
and I'm hoping you did a little research on it.
I don't know if you did though. All right. What's going on
with Josh Morrissey? Oh, we don't have any update yet.
Okay. By the way, that's a potentially big loss.
Yeah, the updates coming out of
the Olympics are very difficult to get a handle on.
Yeah, because they do the media so differently over there. The rights holders
get access to the mix zone.
There's also no insiders.
There's not. It's hard. It's hard.
Because your sources are really only the guys that are in the Team Canada
Brain Trust as opposed to, I think, other instances where you've got people that work for the team
or you know somebody that knows someone, or maybe you're talking to the agents.
The Morrissey thing, he got hurt against Chequia.
He exited the game.
Cooper had no update after the game.
I would not be surprised.
It makes no sense to play him today, even if he's healthy.
No.
You just give him arrest and you put Sandheim in and you move Theodore up from the seven spot to the
six spot. You just go from there. You're playing the Swiss. You should be fine. You don't want
Morrissey to be out beyond the group stage, obviously, because he was your second pairing guy
alongside Colton Pereko. I bet Seth Jarvis gets in today too. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't
be surprised if Bittington just gets a rest entirely and they go with Thompson and Kemper. Thompson is
the starter and Kemper is the backup. Well, remember, I mean, we're talking 2010. Or conversely
you arrest them whatever, like on sound. So in 2010,
Their first game was against Norway.
And you mentioned that Marty Burdur, who was the number one heading into the game.
He didn't even dress.
No, as long as the start of Flurry was the backup.
So I was thinking about this actually yesterday.
Do we have any indication who's starting a goal for Canada today?
Is there anything coming out?
Because I was thinking, and I said this yesterday, I was like, okay, well, Thompson backed up yesterday, right?
Thompson was the backup.
Correct.
And I was like, oh, okay, well, that probably means that Kemper's the number three.
maybe not.
Maybe not.
Maybe not based on that, right?
Maybe they just didn't even want the other potential number one,
even on the bench and just give him plenty of rest.
Laddie, how would you run that?
I want to get Thompson in there as soon as possible
because I think he should be the number one.
But do you think it's possible that Thompson being the backup
was an indication that he's actually the number three?
No.
No, I think they want him in there because he's the next in line.
I think Kemper is the clear number three.
I like how Kemper is a bit of a combination of Bennington and Logan Thompson.
Like, okay, I got to explain this.
So Bennington is the quote unquote big game goalie with the bad stats.
Logan Thompson is the guy who hasn't really played.
Has he played in a huge game?
I think he's played.
You're on the scene kind of guy.
Yeah.
But his stats are really good.
And then Kemper's a bit of both because his stats are between Bittington and Thompson.
And he has played in big games, but he doesn't get as much credit for Binnington
because that Aves team was so good that didn't, I mean, I don't even remember his play
in the Stanley Cup finals.
He was fine.
But he was fine, right?
We had that conversation about Bennington getting into the Hall of Fame.
If Kemper takes over wins gold, does he get in the Hall of Fame?
Because he would have a cup.
He would have a gold medal.
And he has really, really good career numbers.
He's played a long time in the NHL.
I think he might.
So here's what we know right now.
All three goalies participated in practice for Team Canada today.
No scratches came out to work with the goalies.
So some are suggesting that means Jarvis could get in after being a scratch last game.
I would not be surprised if these next two games,
not exactly breaking news here,
but this is when they rotate everybody in.
I think there was some trepidation going into the Chequia game
that that was going to be a pretty stern test,
and they wanted to be on the front foot as it was with,
this is what our lineup's going to look like at go time,
this is what the 12 and 6 are going to look like,
and this is where starter is going to be.
And then they ran away with it in the second and third periods,
easily setting up an opportunity to play some other guys.
I mean, there is a sentiment of you want everyone involved with this at some point during the proceedings.
And games against Switzerland and France would certainly give you that opportunity.
So does Jarvis get in?
Yeah.
Do you sit Morrissey and, you know, bring Sanheim in probably?
Do you give your other goleys a look?
This would be the time to do it.
You don't want Biddington sitting on ice too long.
Perverbabilal ice, not the actual physical ice.
But you don't want him sitting away from the game.
You probably want to give him one of these two final.
on games just so he's fresh and he keeps going.
But the group stage, again, I hate putting too much emphasis on what a breeze this is going
to be, but that was supposed to be the test yesterday.
And they were way too dominant for Cheki in the second and third periods yesterday.
He was 5-0.
And if that game had gone another 20 minutes, that score would have really got out of hand.
That's the relentlessness that they play with.
And you brought this up earlier in the show.
You can hang with a team for a while on guts and.
momentum and energy.
Work great.
Yeah.
And, you know,
the adrenaline
coursing through your veins.
That's exhausting.
That can carry you for 20 minutes.
Yeah.
But the relentlessness
wears you down after a while.
Because these teams are rolling
four lines of NHL All-Stars.
So just when you think you're getting a break,
the U.S. is flipping Jack Hughes over the boards.
And just when you're getting a break against Canada,
it's like Horvac comes out and scores a worldly.
And all of a sudden you're looking at it.
And you're like, we don't get a rest during this game.
This is why.
Did you see how tired?
Ladfia looked when
was it Nelson's second goal?
Yeah.
When they were just passing the puck around
and the Hughes boys were involved in that.
I think the third goal was the one
was Mers Lickens was on his hands and knees
and just stayed in that position for a couple of minutes.
He's like, this is a lot right now.
They were just exhausted.
We're getting outshot thoroughly here.
If you make the team,
I mean, it's easy to, not easy,
but it's easy to just stand there and block shots.
So some people say like
if you're, if you're,
You know, if you're playing a team that's just pack in the middle of the ice,
we'll just wail away and shoot and, you know, some pucks will get through
or maybe hurt some of the guys.
And, like, there's something to be said for that, sure.
But what you really want to do is make them skate,
make them go back and forth and quick puck movement.
That's exhausting.
You know, standing there on blocking shots might be painful,
but it's not particularly tiring.
And I think that's what the Americans really did to Latvia.
And that's what you can do.
when you've got the skill of Canada and you've got the skating that's going to make you move and react,
and you've got the East West passing that's going to make you move and react.
And, you know, I feel like you didn't quite understand my question about Canada.
Could they just roll through this entire tournament?
That includes potentially rolling through the Americans in the gold medal game.
Is that asking for too much?
Like I don't want to jinx anything,
and I don't believe in jinxes anyway,
but what we saw yesterday from the Canadians
is actually quite different
from other versions of Canada
that we've seen at Olympics,
where most of the time the first games,
you're like,
eh, they look a little janky out there.
Yeah, I do.
You know?
And it was like,
and then by the second period yesterday,
it was like, oh my God.
These guys are dominant, and they've been waiting for so long to do this.
And I know the Americans have too, but the amount of high-end elite, you know, top 10 players of all time that are on the Canadian team, it's an incredible forward group.
Yep.
An incredible forward group.
Well, okay, Laddy's got a goalie update.
Yeah, thank you to Tatiana who's been texting it.
Apparently, Friedman did mention during one of the intermissions this morning
that he thinks it is going to be Thompson tonight.
Thompson was the first skater onto the ice for Team Canada practice this morning.
Okay, good update.
There you go.
And then back to your point.
Yeah, I kind of got what you were saying about could they potentially roll through right now.
Like, I think they'd roll Sweden now.
See, Finland, I'd be a little worried about it just because they're Finland.
Here's where I'm hesitant.
You don't get a true sense of where a team is at until they're desperate or their lives are on the line.
and they're playing with a desperation.
Like,
you can't tell me
that the Swedish team
as compiled is playing
as well as it could right now.
They were bad at the four nations, though.
Yeah.
Like,
I think there's something going on
with that program
that there's something off.
Right now,
all signs,
underline all,
capital ALL,
all signs point to
the U.S.
and Canada being the class of this tournament
and kind of bullying their way to the final.
And crazy things can happen.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, what we're doing in some ways is just sending up the narrative in case Canada does roll through the tournament or in case they get tripped up.
Then we'd be like, wow, where did that come from?
For example, Finland has a disappointing start against Slovakia.
I think today, the biggest story is that Finland, knowing that they're not going to want to drop two games in a row, and especially the second to their bit of rival Sweden, come home, put forth a really good performance and they beat Sweden 4-1.
and you want to talk about how goaltending can tilt things in this tournament.
UC Soros was brilliant for them today after having a shaky first one.
So you look at that and you're like,
do you now catch Canada or the U.S.
in a game where they're not as razor sharp as they were in their first games
and they're not as high-powered and high-flying?
And maybe they're not passing a shooting with the crispness that they were.
And then they go against a better goalie, like a Saros.
That's where you all of a sudden say it's not a steamroll anymore.
Those are the exceptions I'm trying to lay out here
because we have done this before in Olympic tournaments.
I remember in 2014 watching the US jump out
and I'm like, well, they're going to coast
to the gold medal game with the way that they're scoring.
Yeah.
They were elite and they were moving the puck freely and confidently
until it got to the knockout stage
and then things tightened up a little bit, right?
Americans has always been their center depth.
Even at that tournament, their center depth
really couldn't match up.
Americans always had good wingers
and they would sometimes carry them
in some of those group stage games
but then they came up against the Canadians
and I don't know if it was the personnel on the ice
I don't know if it was psychological
they just did not look like the same team
when they played the Canadians.
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We'll talk about everything that's already happened
in the tournament and what's on
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Play-by-Play as well. joins us now
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Morning, Matt, how are you?
Morning, guys, doing great. How are you?
How are well? Thanks for taking the time to do this.
We're now a handful of games into the
tournament, so big picture, not
just the Canadian team and the U.S. team
who got off to flying starts. Early
impressions of the quality of play,
the caliber of play from this men's Olympic tournament
so far.
Yeah, it's been pretty entertaining.
I mean, I can't really put my finger on a blowout game or a bad game or a boring game, let's say.
I've been doing some of the international games and did the game between Italy and Slovakia this morning.
And, you know, we were kind of wondering, well, you know, did Italy kind of use all of its good luck up in one game and keep it close with Sweden.
But they, again, played a pretty competitive game against some everyday NHLs like Uri Slavkovsky, et cetera, and held Slovakia to a three-two score.
So we'll see how the tournament plays out.
but I think that so far with NHL players being back,
it's been a lot of fun.
We were talking about Sweden being probably the biggest disappointment
of the tournament thus far,
and Slovakia maybe being the biggest surprise.
I guess we should spare a moment here to talk about
the surprise that Italy has put forth,
although they haven't won a game yet,
I think a lot of people would say that
if they could have gone their first two games
and only had a minus four goal differential,
hanging around with both the Swedes and the Slobeks,
that's a pretty impressive performance
from this Italian team so far?
Yeah, some really great stories.
I mean, a lot of the untold
stories with the Italian team, right?
They only have really one active NHL prospect,
and that's the goalie with Damien Clara,
who's a second rounder with the Ducks,
and he played really well against Sweden
before he left with a growing injury,
and surprisingly came back in for relief duty today
when the other goaltender,
David Fandani went out with what seemed like an injury
or equipment problems.
So the rest of them, there's a lot,
there's a ton of Canadian connections
on that Italian side, there's the eight
Canadian-born players, a couple
from Vancouver. Matt Bradley,
his brother plays for UBC, he scored a nice goal
today on the power play. He's got a couple in the tournament.
So really stories like that, we're really
having a lot of fun with, and a lot of guys that have
left North America to pursue their dream
and playing high-level hockey, professional hockey,
and, you know, you don't see guys
that are just parachuting in for the tournament here
and then going back and playing in the American League
of the ECHL or something. These guys are full-time
players a good chunk of them in the Italian leagues or other leagues across Europe. So really
impressive to see what they've done so far. I mean, if you had a tie game with Sweden on your
bingo card after 35 minutes, hats off to you because I didn't have that one going on. And then again,
you know, you kind of thought, well, you know, against Slovakia, they had a really big game
against Finland and how do you see fit in? And again, they, you know, kept it pretty close and kept
competitive and you know obviously they're going to be the easiest team on the on the card when it
comes to a quarter-final or a qualification game but yeah so far there's a lot of fun stories
with some pretty pretty interesting Canadian connections let's say what have you thought of the
Swedes so far yeah there there I mean they've I mean look at the the roster they have they have tons
of talent but it just hasn't it hasn't quite manifested so far I mean obviously phil
Augustin probably wouldn't have liked his game too much he's had a terrific
year with the Minnesota Wild, but obviously two goals that he probably wants back.
I think it was two goals on four shots at one point before he sort of settled in and made
some stops in the third period against Italy.
But yeah, the game against Finland was a surprise.
And usually, you know, that's a great rivalry, the Scandinavian battle.
But usually you see Sweden jump ahead on that, just, you know, with the depth that they have,
the goal tend that they have, but not today.
Finland scored a rare 4-1-4-1 victory.
Now, the interesting thing about this tournament, though, is that 12 teams, everybody's going to have a shot to play in the medal on,
no matter how well or how poorly the pool play goes.
So I think that, you know, Sweden still has an opportunity because if this is a standard tournament,
they might be kind of on the outs or out the door perhaps by now.
But they're going to have to play their way into a quarterfinal.
and I still think that they'll have a chance to have a solid tournament.
But yeah, yeah, if I'm sweet, if I'm a Sweden fan, yeah, just not a lot of cohesiveness so far.
Goaltending has been, usually they've been second best in terms of both the games they've played so far.
So pretty uncharacteristic with the roster that they have.
So it's going to be very difficult for Sweden now.
They get their first, like, I don't want to say do or die, because as you mentioned, everyone advances,
but Sweden up against Slovakia now
because Slovakia has its chance
to control its own destiny at top Group B.
All they need is a single point
against the Swedes in this final game
of the group stage to clinch the group
which I don't think a lot of people saw coming
Slovakia potentially winning Group B.
What did you make and what did you think
of what the Slovaks did today and what you've seen
from them through the first two games?
Yeah, opportunistic team.
I like their game
and I think that Uri Slavkovsky has really
started to come into his own.
He played in the Beijing Olympics as a 17-year-old and scored seven goals.
So he's up to, he added a point today, but he scored two in the opener.
So he's up to nine Olympic goals, which is the most amongst any active NHL player.
I mean, Crosby has four, and Slavosky has nine, which is pretty mind-bending to think about.
But yeah, that game against the Slobaks is going to be a tough one.
The depth, obviously, like, is that the game where it shows?
Is that where Sweden kind of puts his foot down and says, okay, enough is enough,
like let's get a comprehensive, let's get a 6-2 win, let's get a 5-1 win and get back on track.
That's going to be a great question because the issue that the Slovaks had and hasn't
reared its head so far, but they don't have any NHL goaltending.
And if you look at Sweden, they have three.
They have three goaltenders on their roster.
Any of them could play.
So maybe they make the move and they go to the wall of St. Paul with Jesper Valstead.
We'll have to see about that because the goaltending has been about.
bit shaky so far, I've thought.
But, you know, I do think this little bit acts kind of like Germany where they have a lot
of really premier top, top end talent.
And if you get on a power play and you get a couple of goals and, you know, Thomas Tatar,
who played for 14 seasons in the NHL, if he gets going, we've talked about a, talked about
Slavkowski and just the run that he's on.
I really think he's really grown into himself.
And the other one I'm thinking of here, Shimon Nimich, really good player, number two overall
pick from the 2022 draft.
Dvorski's got some talent as well.
So get those guys on a power play and
you know, maybe a big goal or two
down the road or an elimination game.
I could see the slowbacks make it
some noise.
Have you been able to get a read
on the officiating in
the men's tournament so far?
It seemed early on like, oh, they're letting
them play, but correct me if
I'm wrong here. It was a little early for me. I didn't wake up
and watch the entire game, but
quite a few penalties in Finland, Sweden
today. Yeah. Yeah. No, that game, I haven't seen all that as well. I was doing the game on at the same
time. But from what I could tell, it's more of a let them play much more than in past Olympics or any
sort of international hockey. That's for sure. I mean, we're seeing scrums at the end of every
whistle right now. And, you know, a lot of NHL referees would pick a guy and say, okay, you know what?
You're sitting for two. Next time around, it's maybe the other team just to try and
and balance that out a little bit,
try and discourage that.
But the game that I did,
the talent and the slowbacks,
it got nasty.
It got some,
we had a hit to the head,
a number of penalties,
a couple of guys got bloodied up.
And, you know,
I think we probably had eight combined power plays in the game.
So, yeah,
maybe they're starting to tighten it up a little bit,
but I especially thought that opening day,
yeah,
was pretty surprising for international standards.
But there was a movement to,
to make,
this a little bit different, right? NHL players
are back. The rules are obviously
a little bit different. You have some NHL referees
including a couple of Canadians that are
over in Milano-Cortina, so that
can make a difference as well. And the other thing
is a small ice. I just think that now
contact is inevitable. There's going to be contact,
there's going to be clutching and grabbing on every play.
There's going to be big hits. We've seen a lot
of those, like just less space, big
bodies, fast-moving players.
It's going to make for some
different types of, since
that maybe the international game isn't used to so far.
So to answer your question, that was a long way to answer.
I haven't quite had my finger quite on the pulse of what's a penalty and what's not.
But I think overall my gut feeling is it's more of a, you know, let the guys play.
Yeah, I think you're probably right on that one.
And I think that's probably what everyone wants as well.
Aside from the Josh Morrissey injury, could you imagine up?
Could you draw up a better start for the Canadian men?
Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's, that was obviously a great start, just so much anticipation for that.
And, you know, we were talking amongst a couple of other broadcasters, like, well, you know, the checks have provided a little bit of heartbreak for Canada on the international scene with the world juniors over the last couple of tournaments.
And could this be another, could this be another one? And, you know, pretty quickly it was, it was, it was, that was put to rest.
And the big thing is like, how do you, how do you stop that power play? Right? Like, ha, like, there's just no way.
for a five on four or five on three to defend everybody in the way if everybody's flying on full
cylinders there. And I think that one of the big questions was answered was Annette. That was like
the whole lead up for 12 months. So we talked about from the Four Nations, is Jordan Biddington
going to be the guy? He was great in the Four Nations face off. And then, you know, this year
happened and he's got like an 868 percentage with the St. Louis Blues and basically playing backup
duties to Joel Hofer. So that was a major concern. And I thought that he looked comfortable. He
look calm. He's obviously got a great structure of players in front of them.
But it is just one game. And I think that we've seen a lot of competitive games across the
tournament. I did the Swiss France game the other day as well. So I've got a pretty good look at
Switzerland. And they've got some players. Obviously not on the same line as Canada. But
you know, as we've seen, you get a balance, you get a power play, you get a great goal-tending
performance. You know, who knows what can happen. And, you know, obviously France,
which is the one NHL player with Alex Texier, the Montreal-Canadian.
you know, that's going to be the layup game for the Canadians,
where you might see one of those big score lines.
But, yeah, all signs pointing to a spot for Canada,
a direct birth into the quarterfinal.
And then, of course, that's where the rubber's going to start to meet the road after that.
You know, I thought the checks would provide a bit more of a test.
But, you know, if Canada does end up in the inevitable matchup against the United States,
feels like that's a matter of time,
perhaps in the semis or in the gold medal game, you know,
that's going to be a real game.
So one game in, obviously things went well.
Obviously, it's tough to hear about Morrissey
because the blue line is a huge part of protecting the net
and how Baintington can play and what happens.
If he lets him a goal or two, does the mentality weaken?
I mean, I don't think so.
He was terrific in the gold medal game.
He's a Stanley Cup winning goaltender when it goes back to game seven
in the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs.
So he's got it, but as we know,
goaltenders can be a little bit shaky.
And I say that as a junior B goaltender myself,
playing with the Grandview Steelers.
My mentality just didn't have it.
So that's why I went the broadcasting route.
Well, let's talk a little bit about the mentality of some of the players on the Canadian team.
It would surprise me if they let their foot off the gas in any of these games.
It just doesn't seem like the group that's going to do it.
They've got the experience of a guy like Sidney Crosby or another guy like Drew
Dowdy, but they've also just got
hungry superstars.
Nathan McKinnon and Connor McDavid.
These guys want to win so
badly and they've been waiting so long
to get into the Olympics and show
their stuff on the international stage.
You know, is that something
that's going to, like I almost
feel a little bit bad for
France that has to play this Canadian
team on Sunday?
I just wonder what it's going to look like.
Yeah, not thinking it could
get ugly for sure.
you know the French
French held their own and a lot like you see
with some of the German teams or slowback teams
of guys that are playing in the Czech league
or you know in Sweden and Finland etc
but obviously you know this is a
this is a team that's just loaded up with talent and young talent too
right I really like the way Macklin Celebrini has played
I mean my goodness what a year is he's having
and he looked to be he looked to fit right in with this group
and has already you know got an Olympic goal
and he's not even 20 yet which is
which is pretty impressive
and, you know, I think that we didn't see much of Tom Wilson.
That was a question as well, is how is his game going to be
referee judged? How is it going to work out on the international stage?
I thought, you know, obviously it's one game, but, you know,
he's found himself a pretty good spot.
And, yeah, just the speed that they have, the intensity that they have.
And I think there's the desire to play at the Olympics again,
and this is the first time that NHL players have been back in 12 years
going back to 2014.
And Connor McDavid's been one of the biggest voices to play.
Olympic hockey. He's okay with a condensed schedule and just cramming everything in. I don't think he's,
I just don't see how he is not going to be so laser focused. Like what we saw in the Stanley Cup
finals over the last couple of years, they just so locked in and so set on winning a gold medal for
Canada. I just don't think there's any, any room for distraction amongst this group. It's a really,
it's a really good mix. And obviously there was some unfortunate entries that opened up the door to some
other players.
And, you know, obviously from a Canadian perspective, you hope it all works out.
But, you know, overall, it's hard to find a weakness on this team, especially with the Bittington
and the way he played with the 26 saves.
We're speaking to Matt, Colin, Olympic hockey play-by-playman here on the Halford
and Breff Show on Sportsnet 650.
I just wanted to circle back.
You did mention that you were on the call for Switzerland already.
Can you give us a little bit of more of a breakdown, maybe even a preview for Canada's
next opponent, this Swiss team that you saw take care of the French for nothing?
Yeah, the Swiss team, there's a lot.
they're a hungry team and they've had
some success at the world championships
now take that with a grain of salt
because there's not a thought of best on best
tournament but you know they've had some metal
performances there and
you know if you look at down their roster
I mean Nico Hesher former number one
overall pick regular NHLs
a lot of them on the devils actually
Timo Myers on that team
just looking down the list
former devil with Nino Nita Ryder
Fial is on that team
but also a good mix
of Europeans as well
are former NHLers.
Roman Yose's the captain.
So I think they're a team
that does have some composure.
But again, if you go man to man,
line to line, deep pairing
to de pairing, I think that Canada
shouldn't have any trouble with the Swiss.
I'm curious to know what they do in gold.
They have Leonardo Giannone, who's a 38-year-old.
They call him the Swiss legend.
He's a five-time Swiss championship.
The Jacques-Pont trophies award to the best
goaltender in Switzerland, and he's won that six times.
in a 961 say percentage at the last Olympics in Beijing,
not NHL players, of course.
But he has like this international resume
and obviously playing across Europe for 23 seasons.
He has been the guy.
But also they have Akira Schmidt.
He's been having a pretty good season with the Vegas Golden Knights.
29 games.
It's the most he's ever played across the six NHL seasons or five.
And so untested there, but again, the NHL quality goal tender there as well.
And then some Vancouver fans might remember Redo Bear.
from a couple years ago.
He's the third stringer, I would think, on that team.
So, yeah, some names that, you know,
obviously everyday NHL is check.
They got that.
Some guys that can score.
Yep, some guys that can defend, for sure.
But I think that they're going to be a team
that will probably be pushing to try and get into a semifinal
and try and, you know, make a surprise
or maybe get into a bronze medal game.
I kind of put them in that sort of,
I'd say that third tier of group,
you know, if Canada and the United States is the favorites.
If you look at Sweden,
the Finns, maybe in that next group.
And, you know, this is fluid here because I've been surprised by the slowback so far.
So where do they fit in there?
But I imagine that the Swiss and the slowbacks are kind of in that sort of secondary third group of trying to make a surprise.
It's a fun tournament.
And there's a lot of hockey going on.
We have six games across the slate today.
So if you're a hockey fan on a Friday, it's a pretty good time to maybe put the work aside
and just pull up on the couch here and enjoy some hockey.
Well, the Canadian women are going to be in action tomorrow against Germany in the quarterfinals,
and they bounced back nicely after that loss to the Americans,
and it was a demoralizing loss.
Let's face it, I think we watched that game against the Americans,
and we're like, oh, they're really going to have to go back to the drawing board,
maybe a couple of drawing boards in order to get back to the gold medal game
and then have a chance against the Americans.
Do you think they need, do they need, I mean, obviously,
any Mary Filippe Plam back, but even if she's back and she's good to go,
do they need a new game plan in order to beat the Americans?
Yeah, that's a head scratcher.
The Americans look good, they're young, they're fast,
the next generation has arrived, and they looked mild ahead of Canada in that game,
to be perfectly honest with you.
I mean, I think the scoreline is pretty reflective of how that game went,
to 5-0. I mean, the Canadians had 10 shots through 40 minutes.
I mean, just you can't, no matter what level of hockey you're playing at,
you're not going to have a lot of success doing that.
Unless, you know, you're Italy and you have a great goal-tending performance
or something like that, like we saw against the Swedes there.
But it's going to be, they needed that performance.
Yeah, there would have been major cause for concern if that game was even close
against Finland.
So I thought they did well and generated that.
And I think that, you know, despite some tough,
losses. And it's not just a one-off here
against the Americans. When they played the rivalry series,
the Americans won all four in a row.
They outscored the Canadians pretty heavily.
I think Canada only scored seven goals across
those four games. So there
was a double-digit game as well
where the Americans won in double digits
and, you know, that's never good
when you're putting up 10 plus goals
on your team. So
it's not just a one-off, that five-nothing game.
So I do think that
that team needs
to really look in and say,
and we've dominated the international scene.
We've won a ton of gold medals at the Olympics.
Like how do we beat the Americans right now?
And despite that loss, you know, a day or two later,
if you look down the roster, particularly if Poulana is able to get back,
she's not going to play in the next game,
but did skate today was the first player on the ice.
So that's some encouraging news for the Canadians.
And I think you hopefully save her for the semifinal,
if it's not a 100% situation or a gold medal game.
But I think that if the Canadians make it that far,
of course, but I think that maybe you do need to play that American team a little bit differently
and just recognize the talent that they have because all five goals scores under 24 years old
and Canada just doesn't have that young talent right now.
But I think in an elimination game, in a medal round game and a gold medal game,
it's hard not to bet with the Mary-Silippe Poulin, Laura Stacey, Natalie Spooner,
players that have been there, they've won it, and Renee DeBien, Nett.
obviously she had a rough game and got pulled.
But I think that, you know, if you're going to lose one game against the Americans,
make it the preliminary round, make it the round robin, and then try and get them back.
We see that a lot.
I mean, we saw that in the World Juniors with the checks and Canada beat the checks in the opener
and everything's great.
And then, you know, the checks come back in the semifinal and show Canada the door.
So I think if you're going to pick one to win, that one's still going to come down the road wherever that that may find it.
Matt, this was great.
This was awesome.
Thanks for taking the time to do it.
We appreciate it.
Let's get caught up later on in the tournament.
We'll do this again, hopefully, next week.
Yeah, that would be great.
Yeah, enjoy the rest of the round robin
and the big day over the next, well,
the big day today and the next couple of games.
Yeah, you too.
Thanks, Matt.
We appreciate it.
Thanks, guys.
That's Matt Cullen, play-by-play voice
for the men's hockey tournament
and snowboard cross,
which we never got to ask them about,
unfortunately, here on the Halford & Brough show
on Sportsnet 650.
And former Grandview Steeler.
Well, we can admit this now.
I looked up his stats, by the way,
if you guys want to know what his numbers were.
We'll have been,
sometimes the Halford and Brough show,
we're not the brightest.
Sometimes we had rock bottom make mistakes.
We're not the sharpest knives in the drawer.
Up until about 9.30 p.m. last night,
we assumed that we had booked Matt Cullen,
the three-time Stanley Cup champion,
former NHLer.
Because we got a list of people that we could reach out to,
at SportsNet.
Yeah, former NHLRs at the Olympics.
And there was a name on,
there was a name that was Matt Cullen.
And I was like, oh, you know,
we all thought, well, we got him
to provide commentary on the American team.
That's a good get.
Further confusing things was that
this Matt Cullen that we just spoke to
calls Ottawa Senators games.
Matt Cullen, the NHLer,
played for the Ottawa Senators at one point
during his illustrious career.
So when I googled Matt Cullen, Ottawa,
I was like, I were good.
Lo and behold.
But like the former NHL or this Matt Cullen
has also won three Stanley Cups.
Amazingly so.
Yeah.
Amazingly so.
That would have been incredible though.
We were very close.
We were very close to.
We were very close to going into that interview
thinking that was American hockey player.
Oh yeah, he had a bunch of calls light up.
Ranked a goal calls?
Yeah.
I mean, we were going to be like,
so Matt Cullen won
the Stanley Cup in Carolina
where Jim Rutherford
was in charge and he won two in Pittsburgh
where Jim Rutherford was in charge
we were just going to be like
what do you remember about winning cups
on those Jim Rutherford teams
you're like
that would have been an all-timer for us
I played for the Grandview Steelers
has broken the tie
that was a call from Granby
that had a good crowd that day
the goalie scored
Did you win a Stanley Cup with the Grandview Steelers?
He played four games, by the way, two starts.
Nice.
Didn't get a win.
You're digging deep there.
Yeah, I got his whole stat line right here.
Very good.
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