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Episode Date: August 22, 2025

In Hour three Jamie and Dan are joined by Brenden Deeg as they go across the NFL. Later they tell us what they learned plus get into Ask Us Anything submissions!  This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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calling in on the Power West hotline. He covers the NFL for the score. He is Brendan Deeg. Brendan, thanks for doing this today. How are you? I'm good. Fiesta Friday has me fired up. Yeah, absolutely. That's what it's supposed to do. We're doing great. We're fired up. It's the last hour of the show here. So we're having a good time. We're feeling good. A couple of games on the week three preseason slate last night. And look, it's week three.

A lot of starters not playing around the league. So you've got to be very careful about reading too much into it. But I know Giants fans have liked what they've seen from Jackson Dart in his first taste of NFL preseason action so far. Now crowded quarterback situation obviously there for the giant. So it doesn't seem likely he's going to start too early in the season. But what have you seen from Jackson Dart? And is it fair for Giants fans to be feeling a little optimistic about what he could do in his rookie season?

First off, I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that quarterback meeting room. It's so entertaining. I don't know if you saw the clip of Jackson Dart, eating the W with James Winston last night, kind of one file around Twitter. But I actually made a point to a friend earlier this week where I think I would just roll out Jackson Dart week one and just see what he's got.

Like, I think he's looked pretty good in preseason. I know they want kind of a veteran leader and just like a higher floor of a quarterback play after dealing with the Daniel Jones saw in the last few years so that's why they signed Russell Wilson's why they signed James Winston but I think this rolling with Dart Week 1 would be kind of my play if I was running that team

but Brian Dable's coaching for his job right now the general manager Joe Sheamed also kind of on the hot seat both those guys need to stack up wins to kind of hold on to their jobs and not hit the open market this off season so I kind of understand the plan to roll Russell Wilson, a role of James Winston, kind of see how that goes, but I've been impressed to Jackson Dart so far. He kind of exceeded my expectations. I didn't love him coming out of

an old miss. I thought he was very raw. A lot of that oldness offense was kind of dink and dunk short passes. He didn't really wasn't have to do a lot, but I think he's looked good. And if I would a giant fan, I'd like to see him week one. And because I do believe at some point that he's going to come in and why not just kind of rip off the band-aid and do it now. It would be kind of funny that Russell Wilson's career comes full circle like that, where you know, he was the draft pick that took over for Matt Flynn, the freshly signed free agents to the Seattle Seahawks and could happen in a different way. But, you know, personally, as an Italian-Canadian, Brendan, I would be heartbroken

if Tommy Cutlets gets cut by the New York Giants. So three T-Ds last night. You've got to keep that guy on the roster. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to happen. I don't know if we're going to keep four quarterbacks. So your heart's going to get broken here. All of New York is going to have their hearts broken if Tommy DeVito is not a New York giant. But all kidding aside, you know, the other.

big quarterback situation that played out this week was in Indianapolis with Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. And I kind of get it because like if you're looking to win week one, Daniel Jones definitely gives you a better chance than Anthony Richardson. And we knew Anthony Richardson was raw coming into the draft, but there's just so much talent there that you kind of hope that it eventually comes to fruition. But it doesn't look like Shane Steichen has has the stomach to see if Anthony Richardson can figure it out. And the only way he's going to figure it out if he gets more real reps in NFL games. And I just don't think he's going to be afforded that chance. Yeah, so I'll start with this. I'm not like an Anthony Richardson defender here. I do

think that he deserves a kind of, he deserves a lot of blame for his situation now. Like, this isn't all in the Colts coaching staff and front office. Having said that if I was a Colts fan and even just myself not being a Colts fan, I don't understand this decision here. Like, Bowling with Daniel Jones, week one, provides a low floor and not a high ceiling at all on a conference that you need, like, a special weapon at quarterback, Lamar Jackson, Josh Al and Patrick Mahomes. Like, there's just, I think there's zero chance that the Colts are going to have any playoff success rolling in with Daniel Jones to start it.

And, like, I get the point where if you wanted to bring in someone to compete with Nancy Richardson and you want to push him and if Anthony Richardson doesn't play well enough, you can go with him. But Daniel Jones is not the answer. If he just looked at his time in New York, 2444 and 1 as an NFL starter, that's the lowest win percentage of any starting quarterback since 2019. He's 28th of the 31 qualifying quarterbacks in EPA per play over the last two years. Like, he's not going to elevate this offense.

This is a prime example of kind of what I said earlier, where coaches are really trying to hold on to their job here. Shane Steichen, I just wrote a piece at the score kind of ranking five head coaches who are on the hot seat. I had Schenstikin, number one. I have a hard time believing that he'll be the head coach in 2026, and he just needs to rack up wins. And I don't understand what the plan was to go, okay, Daniel Jones is going to be the guy for one year

at $14 million to do that if we don't trust Anthony Richardson. Why not go send Sam Darnold? Why not go find another quarterback? Why not trade for Tannery Kee from Philadelphia? Try something else. And a guy that's played since 2019 has a ton of on-field work and you know what you're getting out of them. I just think the Colts have completely botched this.

Like you said, you knew when you draft him he was raw and he needed on-field work. He's barely started games. He missed a ton of his rookie season due to his shoulder injury. Last season, of course, he gets bench, comes back. And I thought he looked fine down the stretch. I thought he showed more promise than he has in his entire career. He's got a bazook of an arm.

He's fast. He can help you in the run game. Like, I really do think this was the time until like, okay, Nancy Richards is fully healthy here. We have a full off season with them. Let's see what he can do week one with a full slate of preparation going into the season. And I just don't understand this. if I was a Colts fan, I'd be starting to feel apathy

just from social media, just kind of following along while my work and whatnot. It looks like Colts fans are feeling that. I think like maybe 10% of their fan base is probably happy about this. Like I just, I think Daniel Jones brings absolutely zero juice to the season for the Colts. And if I would, I would want to see Anthony Richardson if I was on that team,

or in the front office, following that team and whatnot. And I just, I don't get this one. This one baffles me, and I think the Colts are going downhill fast. And like I said, I don't think Shane Spike is going to be the head coach in 2026. Yeah, it's an interesting situation because on the surface, right, you feel almost kind of silly making a strong case for Anthony Richardson, but then you turn around and the flip side is Daniel Jones. And I think it's almost a bigger

issue than Daniel Jones versus Anthony Richardson because given what the struggles Richardson has had, and I know a lot of it's health related, it would be totally fine, I think, for the Colts to say, you know what, we don't see him as the quarterback of the future anymore. We're moving on. We're going to go find the stop gap. But instead, as you say, they go out and find Daniel Jones. So they kind of put themselves in this position where they're damned if they do, damned if they don't. Like almost no matter what decision they made here, it would have looked kind of ridiculous in one way or another.

Yeah, exactly. Why not? What was the plane here? Like, your plan was, like, we're just going to sign Daniel Jones and all will be well. Like, I'm curious to like, I wish I kind of said a fly in the wall in the giant meeting rooms, the quarterback meeting rooms. I'd love to be a fly in the wall during the free agency meeting rooms for the

Annapolis Colton. What was Chris Ballard and Shane's like in talking about here? Like, what was what was their plan to solidify the quarterback position? Like, there's no way that they came the conclusion going, okay, Daniel Jones is going to be our guy after what they witnessed, go down New York, like, I'm an Eagles guy. I watch a ton of Daniel Jones. He's not good at this.

Like, he's not an NFL starter. I'm, anyone with eyeballs can kind of see that who follows the NFL. Like, this is, this was your opportunity to kind of get Anthony Richardson ready and put him on the field. He needs to be on the field to develop. Like, you took, you spent a very high resource on him, a fourth overall pick. You took your swing here. If you fail with him, you fail with him.

And if he flashes, he, flashes. Like, this was, this was a perfect opportunity to get everything ready for Anthony Richardson to start week one. And like you said, the front offices completely botched this. And another kind of interesting fact, or kind of tidbit to all this is, uh, Jim Mersey passed away in May. So they're, uh, his daughters now run the organization. There's just no way they're just going to kind of continue on and not try to build this in their own vision here. Like this, they're, I know psychans put in a tough spot because of that, but like, they're not going to, they're going to pull the cord faster than any other ownership would. This is the fact that

they now run the show, right? Like, they have the opportunity to kind of cut, cut everything loose in start from scratch. Chat in NFL with Brendan Deeg from the score here, Halford and Brough Sportsnet, 650. You mentioned your recent piece looking at coaches on the hot seat, likely to be fired, either during the season or at the conclusion of the season. Shane Steichen, high on that list. Who else do you have your eye on who's coaching for their jobs here in a big way in 2020? So we already talked about the Giants with Brian Dayball.

I'll flip to Zach Taylor and his since Danny Bengals. This was a late edition side piece I was kind of thinking like yes he made the conference championship he's been to a Super Bowl but if you kind of dig deeper

and the Bengals they are one and 11 in weeks one to two under Zach Taylor since he's been the head coach there they have gone off to terrible starts ever since he's gotten to

the head coaching job they need to get off to a fast start this season we saw them last year falter right up the gate they won their last five games of the year and that couldn't fix

their season. The bad start crippled them. They were 18 and 6 over their last two seasons, and any offensive head coach or any offensive mind story in the NFL would die to get their hands on the Cincinnati Bengals offense. Like, if Zach Taylor was to get five, this would be the number one job

in football, I think Mike, even though I think Mike Brown is arguably the worst owner, maybe outside of Jerry Jones in football, I think he knows that. They've invested, I know they haven't put a lot of money in there like a frugal organization. They're very cheap but they've put a ton of money into this offense.

They signed T. Higgins and Jemartee chased to massive extensions. Joe Burroughs, one of the highest paid quarterbacks in the league. And their offense last year was about seventh and success rate. Like, this is an offense that should be first, second or third.

And I think Mike Brown, and ownership knows that. So I think, like, if you see Zach Taylor get off to an O.N.2 start or a one and four start something along those lines, you're going to see his seat get red hot because this is the first year that they've had all the offensive guys paid,

healthy and ready to go week one. And if it kind of continues on to that same trajectory that they've had over the last two years or six years, even with that Kaila's start where they're not getting off to hot starts, I really do think that Zachill is going to start to feel the eat. The thing about the Bengals that I can't figure out is this whole Trey Hendrickson situation.

Like, shouldn't they want to get a contract done for a defensive player considering how porous their defense looks like it is going to be and what they have to offer on offense? Like, give Joe Burrow at least a chance to have some kind of a defense to help out what he's going to do with on the offensive side of the ball.

Yeah, and the other thing, that kind of ties in his act there. Like, he's already fired Louana Rumo. He's already done, like, usually head coaches get, like, that's one of the cards they can play. Like, just give me another year or two. I'm going to let go my one of my coordinators and you bring in someone else.

Like, you head coaches usually don't get a chance to hire a third head, defensive coordinator. It's very rare in the NFL. So Al Golden's kind of got to get this ship going. And yeah, you're right. Like, does they having Patriot Hendrickson. I understand that. But even with Trey Henterson on the field last year,

this defense was a disaster. Now, the problem with the Bengals is they just haven't drafted well at that position. They put resources into the defense. They tried. They took swings on Dax Hill. A bunch of guys, Miles Murphy in the first round last year, like they spent high draft capital on the defense. None of those guys have panned out.

None of them have developed properly. And it's kind of like an interesting case study with the Eagles. Like, look at them. They drafted Quinnian-Mitchell, Cooper DeGene last year for a second round. That completely flipped their defense. The Bengals have done similar to that, but they just haven't been able to develop.

help players there. So Trey Henderson, I'm with you. He should he deserve his money. He signed very cheap contract with them in free agency three years ago. He deserves to kind of get paid in the upper echelon of edge rushers. And like I said earlier, the Bengals are super cheap. That's how they are. They're the just known for being just don't want to spend money. They're like the worst facility rankings. They don't put money into anything to kind of help them on the back end. So that that's probably the reason why after they just signed a bunch of offensive with guys, they just, they're like a pay-as-you-go organization. The

other contract situation that continues to play out is Micah Parsons with the Dallas Cowboys. Maybe a lot of it is Jerry being Jerry, but he did mention that Micah Parsons was offered the largest contract for a non-QB in

NFL history, and yet they're still at this contract stalemate. Is this just like what we saw with Dak Prescott, and eventually it gets done right before the season starts? or is there something more going on here? Yeah, I think we'll see it like literally the exact same way as that Prescott. Like I remember we've got into the office on week one last year

and the Dak Prescott contract broke, sorry, on that Sunday. I think, I don't know if it's going to be the exact Sunday, but I think you're going to see a similar timeline here. I would be very shocked if Michael Parsons isn't on the field, week one against the Philadelphia Eagles. Actually, they play on the Thursday night. So they're going to need to get that done on the Thursday night beforehand. But that week, I think they'll get something done, Michael Parsons will play.

Having said all that, I think Jerry Jones has kind of botched this completely. You brought up the fact that Jerry Jones was on Michael Urban's podcast, I believe, was yesterday. And he said he had the contract settled with Micah, that they negotiated. He was going to be the highest pay, or the most guaranteed money to a non-quarterback in NFL history. And then when he sent the contract info to the agent, the agent told him to stick it where the sun don't shine, basically. And I think that the agent's right there. Like, you don't negotiate with players. You know how this works, like especially with a guy that's going to make $40 million plus

dollars per season. He has every right to want his agent to go everything with a fine-toothed comb, make sure this is going to be his biggest contract he's ever going to sign. This is his generational wealth for him, his family, for the future. Like, this stuff isn't just like, oh, I'm going to walk the player in a room, speaking for 10 minutes, and we're all fine and dandy brush off our hands and get going here. Like, this stuff takes time. This stuff takes professionals.

That's why players have agents. Jerry Jones has been known to do this with players in the past where he'll negotiate directly with them and the players just end up telling their agent it's all good. I think that Brian's been very vocal about this on Twitter kind of the stuff that he dealt with when he was going to contract extensions with Jerry Jones. So this whole talk has been wild at the fact that they haven't got this point

or the fact that they've got to this point is crazy to me because this should have been the easiest contract extension for a defensive player in NFL history. Michael Parsons rules. He's one of the best defensive players in the league. I think he's the most valuable defensive player in the league. you saw the edge rush or market pan out this offseason with Max Crosby, it's T.J. Watt, all getting contracts.

You just copy-paste that. Give them a little bit more money, kind of the structure of all the deals is already set for you by these guys. This acquisition of what had done last off-season. The fact that they've waited until this off-season do it blows my mind because they've wasted so much time and money on the cap by waiting this long. So it's just a circus and boughs, and I've always up the belief with Jerry Jones. If you were to ask the other 31 NFL owners, what's your making?

goal. Is it to win football games? They would say yes. And I think Jerry Jones's answer would be different. He wants this to be a reality show and he's getting exactly what he wants. And I know you're an Eagles guy, Brendan, so part of this must be music to your ears. And on the Eagles, I mean, what do you think? Are we looking at a repeat here? So I think that they should be the favorites of the Baltimore Ravens in Buffalo Bulls. I think those are the three teams right now. If I was the betting man, those would be the three teams. What the Eagles do have in their favor is, I don't think the NFC is very good this year. I think the Detroit Lions are going to take a step back. I think the Washington

Commanders are going to take a step back. I don't think they're going to be able to replicate what they did last year. That conference to me is just wide open outside of Philly. Like if I was to like pencil in seven playoff teams right now, the only team I would be like 100% confident in is the Philadelphia Eagles. And on the AFC side of the ball, like you sold the Chiefs, the Ravens and Bills like I brought up. I think those three are druggernauts. So I think the Eagles have that going in their favor. Having said that, repeating is very tough in the NFL we've seen like it's been rarely done we saw the Patriots do it early in the conference we saw the chiefs kind of turned into a dynasty the Eagles had a lot of health luck last

year like they didn't get injured they were one of the least injured teams in the NFL that stuff can flip year to year the defense like they were led by the defense because the offense was like just slightly above average so people remember I think if they're going to repeat they have to get into that top 10 offense of like an efficiency and success rate and whatnot no stats which I do think they can do. Like, I do think that if they kind of open up the passing game more in jail and Hurt's played better throughout the regular season, that can work.

But I just, I think saying the team's going to repeat is so tough because it's so hard to do on a year to your basis. And like the defense, like I said, it's very flaky year to year. Like, offense is usually pretty sticky. Like, if you have a good offense and a good quarterback, you can build on that throughout the years. Defense, like you'll see a number one

defense and it's usually like eight or nine the next year or even worse. We saw that with like the Browns. Like last year, the Browns defense was awful in the year before that, they were amazing, right? Like, it's very hard to kind of construct a great defense year to year. So they've lost players on that side of the ball, two, Milton Williams, Josh Wet, and Free Agency. They have a huge whole cornerback number two right now.

They're battling with Kiwi Ringo, the guy they just traded for, Jacori and Bennett, as well is in that battle, and Dorrie Jackson. So, like, Dary Slay walking out the door, and idea Rod's walking out the door is kind of worrisome. They just don't have that spot solidified it on a defense. You can kind of pick apart one cornerback and kind of that will ruin everything.

It's like offensive line. it's a chain link there. So I do think they're the favorite to me, NFC. I do think they definitely have a shot, but I do think last year's team was better in an input in a better situation, just with the talent on the roster and whatnot. So that's a long answer of saying,

I don't know. We'll see how it goes. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty hard to repeat so they can have a great season and still fall short. Brendan, thanks for doing this man. Really appreciate it. Yeah, I appreciate you guys. Enjoy your weekend.

That is Brendan Deegg from the score covering the NFL weighing in on some coaches in the hot seats and quarterback situations and of course the circus the everlasting eternal circus that is the Dallas Cowboys. All right. It's Halford and Brough here, SportsNet 650 on an Ask Us Anything Friday

and I read the text from Derek and Yarrow before we went to break and got chatting with Brendan but his question in light of the Bulls retiring Derek Rose's number, who do you consider the biggest stretch by a team for a Jersey retirement and doing

a little bit of research here? There's some good ones On the player side, there's one genre that stands out to me. And this text came in. Somebody texted it and I've lost it now. But questioning the avalanche retiring Ray Bork, which I think is a great call. He played 94 regular season games for the apps, help them win a Stanley Cup. What a 94 games, though. Look, fantastic trade deadline acquisition.

And he was fantastic in his full season with them as well at age 40. He was a wicked defender, finished second in Norris voting. that year, which is pretty incredible at age 40, but he played 94 games. Yeah. He played 94 games. And again, it's not like, like they had already won a Stanley Cup when they acquired Ray Bork. They had players like Peter Forsberg and Joe Sackick and Patrick Waugh.

It's not like they were this. I realize they were new to Colorado, but they had already built up a pretty legacy, a pretty impressive legacy of fantastic players that you can anticipate getting their numbers retired in the future. The Ray Bork won pretty strange to me, similar in baseball to Ray Bork. Borg. Wade Boggs got his number retired for two years with the Tampa Bay raise when he was not particularly effective. Yeah. See, like, okay, the Wade Boggs one I get because he wasn't really any good for

Tampa Bay. But Ray Bork, I really don't have a problem with. 94 games. Okay. It doesn't matter. He brought a cup. Okay. He brought a cup to Colorado. He brought a cop. He helped them win a guy. He helped them win a cup. And in that one full season, he played with the Colorado Avalanche, he finished second in Norris voting. Okay, it's one season He didn't win the Norris He's one of the best defensement of all time Yeah, of course he is

I don't have a problem with Boston What do you think is sadder The abs retiring his number? Look, if he doesn't win a cup He doesn't get his number retired Or Boston holding a parade for him After they traded him and won the cup It's still Boston holding a parade

The way Boggs one has a little more lore to it though Because they were trying to woo him To get him to wear their hat In the Hall of Fame Because he was going to be elected to the Hall of Fame Lifelong Red Sock no because the league stepped in and said we're not getting

in Tampa this is ridiculous we're not opening this can of worms we're not allowing incentives in your contract to wear a particular hat when you get elected to the whole thing that's not happening you're saying if the Canucks traded at the deadline for Eric Carlson

and they go on and win a Stanley Cup boom number in the rafters you're okay with that oh it's great defensemen want a bunch of Norris help them win a cup it's a very very wild scenario that you are playing out. It's the same thing.

No, it's the same thing. No, it's not. But also, like, yeah, you probably would retire that number. There's no way you'd retire it. One and a half years of Eric Carlson or not even one to half. Okay. In this wild scenario that you are posing here, in this scenario, Eric Carlson shows up to Vancouver and helps to win a Stanley Cup.

You think anybody in Vancouver is going to care if you retired, Eric, Carlson's number after? We didn't retire Roberto Luongo's number. You're going to put Eric Carlson's in the rafters? Well, Roberto Luongo did not win a Stanley Cup. Oh, wow. Now, should the white caps retire Thomas Mueller's number? And also with Luongo, like to stick a hole in your,

in your Roberto Luongo conversation that, the better part of his career was still with Florida. Sure. And the better part of Eric Carlson's career would be elsewhere as well. Of course. On this point. And by that actually. But in your scenario, he won to come.

up with the Vancouver Cup. That's true. So those are a couple that stick out to me, Wade Boggs and Ray Bork. The other one, and this is kind of cheating, but that drives me nuts, is like the 12 for in Seattle, for the 12s. It's like anything that's like, yeah, anything is, oh, it's for the fans or it's to honor. We're retiring the number we, the year we came into the league or anything like that. I'm like, no, stop it. What are you doing? What we learned, uh, Minnesota retired the number one in their expansion year as the Minnesota Wilds as an homage to their to their fans being back in the league like what are you talking about you know how sports work yeah the thing and even as a as a hawk supporter I

still hate it it's just like you know other teams have fans too I know yeah that they call the 12 oh it's well it's not like you guys invented that yes I don't get that let's let's not remember that the Kodoks tried to retire the number seven no yeah for the seventh man keep that in the in the memory hole because the Seahawks were becoming so popular. Because people don't even, like seventh man is not even a thing people say. It's like the definition of cringe,

is it not? Yes, it absolutely is. It is absolutely the definition of, of cringe. This is a good question along these lines from Brendan and Burnaby, who says, ask us anything.

Speaking on retiring numbers, is Kauai Leonard with the Raptors a slam dunk for a retired jersey? Well, if we're applying the Ray Bork standard, he has to be. Because, I mean, that and that was like, you can't say, He was a contributing member.

He was the reason they won their championship, the only championship in team history, of course. But it's also fascinating because he was there for a year, then left. He's won championships, other places as well. I don't think you can. I think your needs to be more longevity. Like I think part of what you're doing it for is the idea almost of like service to the city. And you could say Kwai Leonard did a great service to the franchise and the city of Toronto. I just, I need to see a little bit more element of longevity.

I would way rather have Ray Bork or Kauai Leonard number be retired than Nick Collison's number four, okay? That's fair. Now, the absolute worst jersey number retired is the Florida Panthers retiring the number 37 for owner Wayne Heisinga. That's tough, man. That is really tough. How ridiculous do you have to be as an owner to say, we're retiring my number? Well, the worst part, too, is that you know it was some like kiss ass with the brother. It's like, hey, Wayne, I found, I got this great idea.

I don't know if you're going to like it, but, and Wayne was like, oh, brilliant. It's like, brilliant. Who have the Panthers retired? Roberto Longo, Bill Tori, and Wayne Heisinga. You know, I actually do have one that I actually think is even worse, or at least possibly worse. The Miami Heat, I wasn't aware of this until today. retired 23 for Michael Jordan. Now, I know they're like 99, of course, retired league wide.

Jackie Robinson's number retired in major league baseball. So you'll see the league step in and retire numbers sometime. But that's not what the NBA did. Lots of guys have worn 23 around the league. LeBron, of course, famously. I mean, it was the most popular number in the league for the few years there in the early 2000s. But Miami, no connection whatsoever to Michael Jordan. Never played for them.

Not from there. Yeah. No, no, didn't, you know, owned a different team, all that. They just decided, you know what? we're going to retire Michael Jordan's number why they're the only team the league who did it that he didn't play for the NBA retired the number 23 for a time as a whole

did they no guys wear it all the time they unretired it okay they retired it for Jordan then they unretired that's why I just left it that's why LeBron that's why LeBron wore stopped wearing number 23 for a time so wait when did this happen and then they unretired it yes

why did they unretire it this is even weirder yes I know much like the NHL has retired the number 99 yeah I know but that one stayed retired yes it stayed retired but LeBron wore 23 when he came into the league a lot of guys did like Marcus Camby were 23 Jason Richardson it was very popular they thought it was going to be something to

that players respected and then they decided you know what we don't like the idea of retiring the number 23 so that's how I remember my mind are you are you 100% sure about this I don't know if it was official retired or unofficially, but I know that's why LeBron changed from number 23 for a time. And guys like Jason Richardson and all those guys changed from number 23 for a time. All right.

Well, there you go. I don't think it ever was retired officially. I don't think teams just sort of stayed away from the number because they wanted to respect it. Guys didn't want to invite the comparison. Yeah. The other one is, again, from just who comes up with these ideas? I don't know. The Seattle Cracken retiring the number 32

because they were the 32nd franchise. Brutal. And they sold 32,000 season ticket deposits when they were doing their drive for expansion. Their proof that we are a viable NHLC. Some poor goalie coming up in their system where it's probably 32 for a reason. And now he's like, I can't do it.

This is what happens when we give marketing departments too much power. We start hearing the word activation, and you start retiring the number of season ticket deposits, you got. You're in the marketing war room for the cracking. What can we do for our home game, guys? I've got this great idea. That is. I've got this great idea.

Here, you know, other teams, they retire numbers. Okay, they retire numbers, right? But we don't have any history to retire any number. We start our first ever home game by retiring the number 32, because we're the 32nd franchise. and it's part of the activation of the opening night activation. The opening night activation will be retiring the number 32 because we're the 32nd franchise and we sold 32,000 season ticket deposits. This is a great idea.

That's brutal. That is absolute. I think that's the worst one. That's the worst one I've heard. And you just think about it now and, you know, 20 years and they're retiring, you know, they hope Maddie Baneers' number or 25 years or Shane Wright or something like that. And it's the first player to get their number retired. it's going up to the rafters and a little kid asked his dad daddy who was number 32

and it's like well they sold 32,000 season tickets deposits before they became a franchise before their first game son wow that's cool what an honor that's going to be what an honor that's going to be uh all right we will take a final break here we'll do more ask us anything and what we learns on the other side send them in we'll announce the winner as well on the other side here on halford and bruff sports net 650 welcome to colonna fauna farina west coast Yeah Colonna, baby Best place in the world right here

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Officially. Wow. For the last week of August? For the last week of August. How did they not have that in their contracts? I think they did. And Bear was like, guys, I really need you for that last week of August. I need a good warm up to the hockey season. You know, you can't just jump right into it. Bear is really good about fulfilling vacation requests in the summer, which you pretty much. say and he's like all right no problem and I think he got into the last week of august it was like oh I've said yes to a lot of vacation for that week I'm going to need to call some people back here to get to work this could be a problem how brought to you by sands and associates learn how a consumer proposal reduces your debt by up to 80% with no more interest visit sands dash trustee

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And for the Blue Jays, of course, it's the Shane Bieber debut. Everyone's looking forward to that. A lot of articles coming out today previewing that game is first as a Jay and there's a new reworked pitch to be on the lookout for early. Brandon Valenzuela, the catcher for the

Bisons, has been raving about the change-up because apparently the slider has always been the big pitcher for Bieber, but he's reworked his change-up and he got a whiff rate of almost 50% in his stint in the minor leagues with this new change-up. So apparently the catcher's raving

about it, the numbers back up. The catcher raving about it. So be on the lookout for that today. Shane Bieber uncorking a new reworked change-up. Is it the, what do they call it now? The kick? The kick change-up? Do you know if it's that? I didn't mention anything about that. It might be, but... I do love when a new baseball change. A new baseball pitch gets invented. That's always exciting. I'm not sure if this is more of a new pitch. It's just more new for Bieber. Sure. It's a new thing that he hasn't unveiled yet. It will make us all believers. Yes. Everyone have a favorite baseball pitch? Oh, you got to go with the classic screwball

Oh, no, who throws a screwball? No one, that's why it's amazing Tears your arm up when you throw it The Ephus, of course, fantastic The Ephis pitch I'm a change up It's such a novelty though, I want a real I think change up

There's something about just watching a pitcher Dominate fastball change up That's very, very appealing The change up is legendary I would say the knuckle curve What's the most aesthetically pleasing pitch Is that the 126 curve? The 126 curve ball is pretty good

The 126 curve ball is pretty good I also there's something hypnotic about like the pitcher who only throws like Bartolo Cologne at the end of the crew only through Sinkers and there's that clip. What did he threw like 45 straight strikes in a row one game and it's just the same pitch every time. Please ground this ball. Sinker. It's like, all right.

You're locating it. They can't hit it. They can't hit it. Stick with it. Stick with what works. All right. Give us a Mucow there. All right.

Let's print off the listener submissions here. and of course what we learned is brought to you by a j's pizza on east broadway expand your palette with a j's white pies made with rosemary and infused with cream sauce or garlic oil only at a j's pizza online at a j's dot pizza oh lina i'm sorry i just assumed that's uh i thought we were whipping i don't have anything prepared all week but all of a sudden she's out of what we learned all week so this is this is i was taking the day off you assumed i would also well Be lazy. I'm sorry.

All right. Lena's got a lot of learned. Okay, before we announced the winner, Lena. Geez. So, how do I recover from this? If you know the Notre Dame Fighting Irish logo. And I do. They have unveiled a new logo, football specific.

Now, instead of the Irish fighter holding his hands out, he's actually holding a football now. So there's your... He's running. He's not square enough anymore. I see. He's not a drunken Irish boxer anymore. My only issue of this, because it looks cool, but this is like Oklahoma State. They have, I forget exactly what they're named.

Pistol Pete, I believe, is the name of their cowboy mascot. And they do a great job, not just for their sports. So, like, they have a fishing team and it's the cowboy in full cowboy gear, like holding a fishing rod. Yeah. Same thing with their golf team and stuff. They do it for all of them. But I think they also do it for, like, they're different majors. like if you're in like I don't know pre-med or something you can get like

a sweatshirt with like pistol pete a sweatshirt with like pistol pete as a doctor okay I'm pretty sure that's great no that's amazing I think it's fantastic so I think they're kind of I think they're kind of ripping off Oklahoma State here and the pistol pete phenomenon but maybe they'll go maybe they'll go even further I think you're thinking too deep about this it's just they're just putting a football in the hand 45 on a Friday reach that's exactly all the comments are saying hey they're the fighting Irish, not the running Irish. We've got to have them squared up.

Classic woke Notre Dame. Taking the fighting out of the fighting Irish. Trying to get some Heisman trophies for the fighting Irish over here. All right, give us a moot there. I'm sorry, very sorry that I skipped you and what we learned. It's okay. We have a break in between the start of Canucks Talk, so I'll forgive you and believe. Okay, thank you.

You'll take the two weeks or whatever to stew over it and let it go eventually. I appreciate that. I do want to announce the winner of the $100 gift card to AJ's Pizza on Broadway goes to Derek Iniero who asked the question in light of the Bulls retiring Derek Rose's number who do you consider the biggest stretch by a team for a Jersey retirement

we had a good chat about that even though Reach and I disagree on the Ray Bork retirement but shout out to Derek and Yarrow thanks for texting in and enjoy the pizza at AJ's as we look back in to the Dunbar lumber text line here

Warren the limping hiker sent this one in a little while ago and ask us anything question. If you have one chance to turn your significant other or your kids onto sports with one great sports movie, what is the best sports movie of all time? And what is the most underrated or under-talked-about sports movie of all time? And would your choice convert someone to being a sports fan?

So it's kind of different questions. Like if you're trying to turn someone onto sports, I mean, especially if it's your kid, I'm going to go with a kid classic, like Mighty Ducks or one of the angels in the outfield, something like that. Sandlot. Yeah, Sandlot, that's a good one. I like that. I don't know. I don't know my significance in another. There's nothing that's going to turn into a sports fan. That's fine. I'm not going to try that. He says his best all time is Rocky. I think that's a good shout. He says, Remember the Titans is one no one really talks about. I don't. I don't know. I feel like Remember the Titans is often talked about. Sure. There you go. It's a little bit overrated if I'm being quite honest. I can see that. The Sandlot's a good shout. I think my favorite sports movie of all time. and I think it's not talked about

and it's been a while since I've seen it but I think it's major league I was a huge major league fan as a kid loved it obsessed with it it's kind of hard not to love major league I suspect if I watched it now there would be some cringe worthy moments in it I feel like maybe there's a reason

it's not high on a lot of people's list now being a comedy from that era but I was obsessed with major league I mean what a what a cast in that as well right you had Wesley Snipes he had Charlie Sheen um Pedro Serrano's character was incredible.

Fantastic. There was just so much to love about the crusty manager. Yeah. I think most people are going to say Bold Durham or like the natural. Sure.

I feel like baseball lends itself best to the big screen because it's maybe easier to slower pace. Yeah, it's slower pace. It's easier to portray on screen. Every hockey montage just seems like

weird. I mean, the mighty ducks like watching the hockey sequences and Mighty Ducks is incredible. It's like you can still see where the director says action and then they just like go converge onto the boards against a player or the triple D it's just like, come on guys.

Like this is this is a struggle right now. Hockey is tough to capture on film. Hockey is very difficult. Selfishly I think white men can't jump is okay sure an incredible like i i love it i don't know it's it's it's just a fun movie it's been a long time since i've seen that and uh finding out that wesley snipes had like never picked up a basketball in his life before that movie is is one of the the great things and woody harrison's actually really good at at basketball uh so that that was kind of funny uh learning about that

movie there you go um i would love to say tin cup would make my significant other like golf more I like to. Are you a tin cup guy? I am definitely a tin cup. Yeah, I enjoy tin cup very much. What about any given Sunday? I like any given Sunday. It's a little over the top. The speech is just incredible.

The speech is incredible. But I think overall it's pretty fun too. You gotta look at the guy next to you. If you're looking to get your kids into sports, my daughter really liked the rubble and crew episode with Aaron Judge in it. So if you're looking to get your young children. When Aaron Judge was on Rubble and crew? He was on rumbling crew. Yeah, they built a stadium and everything.

It's a great episode. How did I miss that? I will say actually, you know what's a great. sports kids show episode is the cricket episode of Bluey. I'm not a cricket guy, but it won't get emotional. You always get emotional with Bluey. Blue is a great show. Bluey references.

Not into Bluey. Oh, you should get them into Bluey. I've tried. Easily the best kid show. The Bluey references didn't think that was going to cash it. Really with me? Come on. What about Bend it like Beckham?

That's one of my top. I've never seen it. Can't comment. You should watch it with your partner. There you go. Can't say I loved it. Caddyshack is great too. Caddyshack's a good one, yeah.

Little Giants was a favorite of mine as a younger guy. We're talking like kid favorites. Yeah, for sure. Kid favorites. Probably, I don't know if I would enjoy it so much now. Now, if you were to show somebody cool runnings, would they want to, would they get into Bob sled? I don't know. Did that cause like a bobsled explosion of popularity in the 90s?

Personally, I was more interested in watching Bob Slet at the Olympics after why. watching cool runnings. I suspect it boosted ratings. What a freaking boost. For the bobsled events at the Olympics, but I don't know if it really jacked up like participation rates. Yeah. Probably got more people watching.

I can only assume. Two other ones. Well, like these don't make people like sports, but like kicking and screaming. Yeah, it's a good one. It was just so funny. Yeah. The Bill Farrow one?

Yeah. Yeah. I got a card. Do you got a card? Ambrose, I want you to go out there and break someone's clavicle. That's what the medics for. Tyler texts in and Ask Us Anything slash an overrated underrated. Sangria, overrated, underrated.

I think massively underrated. Oh, I'm not a sangria. You guys are out of your minds. The idea of it is appealing. I know what Jamie's going to be having during his vacation. I wish. Now that you mention it, I should. We should make a nice little sangria.

Are you a white sangria or a red sangria? More of a red sangria. But I like both. I like white sangria as well. But come on the patio, on a summer day, a jug of sangria there. Yep. You can't go wrong. Doesn't sound bad.

It doesn't sound bad. It doesn't sound bad, but I'm not like, yeah, if there's, if there's options, I'm not going for the sangria. Sangria is not my favorite. Oh, I love sangria. And also, I will say, try getting a cinnamon stick, putting it in the jug as the stir straw for the cinnamon for the sangria. really adds a nice little that's an advanced sangria maneuver that everyone can try out

if you want to take your sangria cold mold wine you want to no you want to take your it's just it's not like overpowering cinnamon it's just a little bit of kick there if you want to take your sangria to the next level try that out I strongly recommend it

and ask us anything comes in as we approach the return of Halford and Brough in the morning who has been the summer fill in MVP now he did say you're not allowed to vote for yourself so I don't know if I'm going to cast a I wouldn't vote for myself. I've been terrible all week.

I'm barely alive in the morning. I'll just say, I'll just say in terms of hours logged as a fill-in on the show, it's you. It's me. Yeah. But if I have to vote for someone else, I'll vote for Lina for having three what we learned prepared this week. Wow. Thank you.

Well done. I'll take that. I feel like Lattie would have the biggest vote voting weight. Yeah, Lattie. Yeah, Lattie is the like the guy who's been here. Like best fillin? Yeah. I can't pick favorites.

Come on. Yes, you can. Why not? This is the best part about us complaining for like two weeks straight about the morning show hours is the fact that Latte's sat here and has listened to it when he's our regular. I miss Randeep. I'll say that. I miss Randipe. Wow.

Why do you miss Randipe? I like making fun of him in the Yankees. It's a nice back and forth. All right. Fair enough. Fair enough. 650, 650, Dumbar Lumbertex line. I mean, yeah, I'll say Lina.

do you have a vote reach um i'll vote josh wow i'm sitting right here incredible josh survived uh although he forced you into a solo morning show which if you have to do a solo morning show you're probably the MVP but i'll vote josh because he uh he lasted through yet another flood and yes he's used to them though yeah i know it's not that challenging anymore for him oh he knows exactly what to do now he knows exactly how to handle it who to call, right? I'm okay. I've been through the process before. I've got this down. No problem. He's got all the stuff on the floor in the copper bins. He's like, okay, we know the protocol guys. Let's go. Let's snap into action. Basketball Phil texts in

Hoosiers, one of the best sports movies ever. That's a great shout. Hoosiers is a fantastic really, really fun. So if you haven't seen Hoosiers, go check that out. All right, we did it. We got to the end of the week, end of the show. Thank you to everyone for texting in. You're Ask Us Anythings and You're What We Learns. We appreciate it. As I mentioned, Halford & Brough, A-Dog, Laddie. They're all going to be back on the show on Monday. So look forward to that. Have a fantastic weekend.

Thank you for listening all week here on Halford & Brough, Sportsnet, 650.