Halford & Brough in the Morning - Dan Murphy Talks Canucks + What We Learned

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

In hour three, Mike & Jason talk Canucks with Sportsnet's Dan Murphy (3:00), the boys tell us what they learned (17:00), plus we hear from the humanoids (27:00). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Let's go! It's sort of like industrial prog metal, but it's got enough techno in it to count for Euro Club Wednesday. I knew what half those words meant. Aggressive metal, industrial, you know. Okay, never mind. It rocks.

That's all you got to know. It rocks. I used to think it was prong rock, not prog rock. Come on. I didn't really. What? I thought it was prong rock. Like they had a bunch of salad prongs on stage and they were just clanging them together.

It was like an instrumental accoutrement. Oh, they're about to do the prong right now. Oh, they're going to do the prongs. I. Oh, they're going to do the prongs. I didn't know it was progressive. Progressive rock. I loved it. And I learned something today. Halverd and Brevard of the Morning is brought to you by Vancouver Honda,

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What's going on, fellas? Yeah, there was no progressive metal at the gym today. It was more, I went back to the early 2000s with some screamo. Andy would know what that is. Nice. Emo turns into screamo. That's what my band was like. You guys were a screamo.

A little Silverstein. Ah, Silverstein. Hawthorne Heights. Nice. So that's what my band was like. You guys were a screamo? Silverstein. Ah, Silverstein. Hawthorne Heights. Nice. You know? So that's what I was rocking with. Noel X Sunfire? Noel, a couple songs were in there.

Boiled Frogs, that's a great tune. Oh, great song. I like Metallica. You've lost both the hosts. Before we get started, can I say something on Luke Gassick? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Don't worry.

Listen, as someone who gets a little bit of online hate, not a lot, but usually from opposing fan bases, suggesting I perform lewd acts on players, et cetera, I've learned to not snap back. But I'm sure Luke didn't mean to say what he said about the organization. He probably had in mind what he wanted to say about the fans or the online trolls. And it just came spewing out. But yeah, I mean, the people that get online and, you know, tell yourself, you know,

tell you to kill yourself or suggest all these horrible acts against your family. I mean, come on people like let's rise above it. It's a, it's a sport. Luke can be biased and the team he cheers for, ask against your family. I mean, come on, people. Let's rise above it. It's a sport. Luke can be biased in the team he cheers for as long as he gives an unbiased opinion when he's doing the games. That's all that matters. I think we all realize Kevin BX is biased

towards the Canucks, but he's going to call out the Canucks when something goes wrong. I think we should lay off Luke. He's a good guy. He said one wrong thing, and please don't go on and line and attack him or his family that's just garbage anyway that's my rant yeah um i mean we said something similar yesterday um we i think the challenge for media and the players is you can or any public figure for that matter you can say how wrong it is to say those things,

but it's not going to go away. It won't. It's not going to go away. So you can either accept that in your job, that sort of stuff is going to happen. You can, it can, it doesn't mean it's never going to bother you. Like it's going to bother you with some of the

things that are said, but you kind of, if you just accept that there's nothing you can do about it, it almost to bother you. Like it's going to bother you with some of the things that are said, but you kind of, if, if you just accept that there's nothing you can do about it, it almost makes it easier. It just is funny. It always comes from, you know, someone with like proud father of three girls, you know, you know, stuff anyway. I know.

It was like, those lucky girls. They're going to have a great day. Yeah. They're going to have a great day. Uh, Murph, uh, how was your golf round with, uh, JT Miller and Nikita Zdorov and and we can ask you about it because you made it public yeah no it was fun um I mean Capilano we got a little bit of rain in there Jeff Williams is my buddy's member up there

he was the I'd be calling the random fourth um so he uh had us out and uh we got a little bit of rain but it was still a beautiful day and of, in good shape. JT Miller is a really good player. He is, you know, I've played with, you know, Nick Taylor and Adam Hadwin and some of these guys, and he is as long or longer than those guys are. He is tour long. He's a really, really good player. And Zdorov's only been playing for about four years, and he can move it off the tee as well.

So it was a fun time to get out there and slash it around and have a couple of beers. You guys must have had some laughs out there. Oh, yeah. What kind of a round was it? Were you chirping each other? Was it like you playing with Shorty and Ferraro, or did you not know each other well enough to get to that point?

No, no, no. It started right away. It literally started right away because JT had to give me four shots and Jeff four shots and Nikita nine. I started 3-3, birdie, birdie. So right away they were on us. And you cannot be thin-skinned out there. Anything is directed at you.

I imagine it's just what it's like on the ice. I don't think anything was off-limits. And they had to ask, you know, is this a safe space for us to go at you like this? And I said, yeah, Jeff doesn't mind. Can you publish the transcript? I don't think I can do that. I don't think I can do that.

But, yeah, that was a good time. So listen, I'm not going to betray any confidences with the time you had with Zdorov and Miller. But is there anything you can say about Zdorov and his future, whether it's going to be in Vancouver or somewhere else? This is what I'll say. They live in Florida in the off-season. I don't know if the preference is to be down south, but he did say that his wife absolutely loves it here. The kids love it here going to school.

He lives on the North Shore. He said the number one, obviously he wants to make his money, but the number one thing for him, he wants to be in a winning environment. And so he's not just going to take a big ticket because, you know, Columbus had offered it to him. So he is looking for, obviously, a decent term and money. But the number one thing on his list right now is having a chance to win. And so that, coupled with his wife loving it here, which is always a big thing,

I would say I wouldn't rule it out. But again, I mean, what's the price tag for a guy who's going to be playing behind Hughes and Carson Soucy, in all honesty? Although I think we could say that this past year, like, the second and third pair were not interchangeable, but it was kind of like, like you know uh 2a and a 2b type of thing yeah so um yeah so if they can figure out how to get to closer negotiations this would be more of a dolly wall topic how far they're apart um i think that uh he'd be more than agreeable to stay in vancouver speaking of sports that's dan murphy here on the halford and brough show on sports net Murph, now that you've had some time off and the season has been done for a while,

have you allowed yourself to do that sort of retrospective look at the year that was and all the really good and cool things that happened to the organization that you were along for? You were along for the entire ride and you were along for the previous rides, which were much rockier and much bumpier. This was a good year. Have you allowed yourself the time to kind of sit back and take it all in and reflect? Yeah, I mean, it was fun, right? I mean, you know, I was conditioned by the past decade, like I was like anybody else, that when things kind of went a bit sideways, I expected it to just go in the trash. It never did. You know, until the end of the season, I was like, okay, so maybe this isn't the same old, same old. You know, it's disappointing the way it ended. You know, I would say probably these guys were going to the summer thinking

about, you know, game four and game six more than any. But this was a successful season by, you know, any way you look at it. Like, it far exceeded expectations. You know, they make it the second round and and they could have beaten edmonton although i do think edmonton was a better team in that round i don't think you can deny that um so yeah i mean it was it was it was fun to be talking about more wins and losses because it's been a while and you know on the panels and stuff like that when teams losing early and often you're stuck talking big picture stuff right away and

talking big picture in november is is never a fun idea so it was it was much more enjoyable to cover a team uh like this year's compared to last year god it was so fun to break down games like how how do you think this game is going to go as opposed to like who cares should Should the Canucks tank or retool? Exactly. When do you think the moves might start occurring? And because we were trying to figure out the timing of the Heronix situation, like do they need to get some finality on that before July 1st or could they feasibly let that linger into

July and August? I don't get the sense this management group is one that's going to procrastinate or put things off. I think they probably have a plan set out. They've got a checklist, and you go in the order of what you want to do things. And if one domino doesn't follow, you move on to the next. So I would think these are things they're trying to get done right now. And, I mean, these guys have a ton of work I mean they did a lot of work before last season

and you could argue they have more this year right I mean some you know big time UFAs in Zdorov and Joshua you know a big time RFA and Hronik like what's going to happen here Lindholm like can they try

to make that work I I'm not sure. The whole penalty kill is gone if none of these guys are resigned. So, you know, I think that they've probably, you know, have an extensive plan already and they're going about trying to execute it. I mean, I remember McIntyre saying like before the playoffs, if they were trying to get guys done then. But once it got close to the playoffs, they stopped. You know, they said, we're not going to,

we're going to put these on the back burner. I have to assume as soon as the playoffs ended, it was front burner again. And they're trying to figure out how to put all the pieces together. But it's going to be very interesting to see what this lineup looks like at the start of next season, because it's going to be vastly different from the one we saw in game number seven. Is there something to be said for a vastly different lineup? I've kind of grown into the whole, like, you need to have constant change,

even if it's significant. And I think sometimes teams just focus too much on trying to keep everything together, and they're unwilling to take the risk to make some changes and you know you don't know where things are going to lead you don't know who's going to show up and and and play you know better to his potential i i think the probably the best example is the vegas golden knights right their first season all these guys that came you know who were not key players on their team, come together and they create this great team.

Now, it's a risk to make changes, but I think it's almost a bigger risk not to make changes. Yeah, and I think one of the biggest examples here was, you know, how many of us were carving the Horvat trade and then spending the first and the second to get Hirona? I was. Well, we can still carve it if it turns out badly because the risk of the horonic...

I know what you're saying. I know what you're saying. I mean, Murph, you and I both wanted to trade JT Miller. Like, did you tell him that on the golf course? He was like, you know what? I wish you weren't here. I'm sure you're here. So, yeah.

So, I mean, that's just a big indication of it, right? Like, sometimes you have to make these bold moves and hey listen bull horvat was not the problem he was one of our you know top scorers who are great on the power play captain but sometimes changes needed to move forward to to you know shore up the other positions that you need to make yourself a more complete hockey team um and you know the other thing we can say is that after last summer i think there's got to be some faith in this management group to be able to do it again, to go out and locate the guys

that can fill in these spots. I don't know what the change in direction was to the scouting staff because I don't think there was much turnover with the actual staff. But what they sent them out to look for has to be different because after a number of years where there were not many hits in terms of free agent signings and trades, there haven't been many misses since this group took over. So,

you know, if there is going to be a lot of change, I think Canucks fans probably have a little bit of faith that, that Alvin and Rutherford are the guys to go out and, and, and find maybe like the next Joshua, who knows. Murph,

this is great, man. Thanks for taking the time to do it. We really appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the offseason, all the golf and all that stuff. Maybe we'll do this again when we further guilt you into coming onto our show. Next time you get an invite to cap, feel free to text me about that. All right. Talk to you guys in September.

See you, buddy. Dan Murphy here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Yeah, Murph is like, I'm not going to say anything more that might get me in trouble. I said yesterday, because Murph was listening to the show and he texted you during the show. I said, Dan Murphy, longtime listener of the show who refuses steadfastly to appear on it. So I think he did us a solid there. So thank you to Murph. We need a guest today.

It's been a slow sports week. I'll have you know. Yeah. Which is weird because the NBA finals is. Tomorrow. The Stanley Cup finals is Saturday. Both leagues taking a significant break between the conference finals and the finals.

I'm going to do a, what we learned here. Okay. And you might have to help me out on this. I can do that. Because I learned that Shohei Otani should be almost as upset with his bank as he was with his former translator.

Okay. Because I read the complaint, like the legal document of the legal document, um, of the entire case, and it actually answered quite a few questions that I had about the case, but, so hold on,

just, I'll, let me set the stage here. Okay. Set the stage. Um, Shohei Otani's former interpreter, Ipe Mizuhara,

uh, pled guilty yesterday to bank and tax fraud and admitted stealing the 17 million dollars from Shohei Otani that's what happened yesterday this is the jumping off point for you now go ahead okay well so Ipe

had to have access to Otani's bank that's right and this wasn't the only place that Otani kept his money he had investments and you know sponsorships that went through his That's right. checking account that Ipe gradually took control of. Mm-hmm. And he wired out around $16 million total from this account to various bookmakers. They didn't all go to the same account.

They, you know, they went to various accounts. Sure. But there was a time in 2022, according to the complaint, where Ipe called the bank and he used this phone number that was actually his phone number, but it was attached to the bank. Yes. So that's kind of something where the bank kind of dropped the ball. Fair. And he attempted to access the bank account to wire funds. During the call, Ipe said he was Otani.

And he falsely stated that he was attempting to wire funds to this bookmaker for a car loan or something. Yes. That request was unsuccessful and the bank froze online traction on transactions for that account. So the bank is like, wait a minute, something's funny here. Suspicious activity. That same day, a different employee from the bank spoke to ePay, same phone number associated with Ipe. So it's the same phone number calling into the bank. And he was talking about the suspension of the online banking.

During that call, Ipe again said, I'm Otani. Right. And then I guess this other bank employee said, all right, well, maybe you can respond to some security challenge questions by giving the bank biographical information for Otani, which Ipe was probably able to easily come up with because he was probably the guy that ended up like supplying that biographical information. I like to imagine. For the bank account. So as a result of that call, Ipe was able to successfully lift the online banking suspension of the account.

So my big question in all of this, and it's got to be Otani's too, is like, why didn't the bank try harder to get an in-person interview with Otani? And one of the complications of all this is that none of the people at the bank spoke Japanese. Yeah. And Otani didn't speak English. So oftentimes there would be these meetings where Ipe's translating and he is lying to both sides. Right? But it's still like I just – like I went to – there was one time when I had to – for me, it was a big amount.

It wasn't nearly as big as much of these, but I had to get like a cashier's check or whatever you call it from the bank. Sure. And the bank was like – it was pretty funny, actually. I must come across as this part of this type of person. They were like, are you sure you're not getting scammed? Like, they thought I might have been involved in one of those romance scams. So, scams.

You know what I mean? Because I was like, at any rate, I'm not going to tell you the details of what it was. But they were like, are you sure? Are you sure? And I was in person at the bank, I'm not going to tell you the details of what it was, but they were like, are you sure? Are you sure? And I was in person. Right. They want Amazon gift cards, okay? I need to buy these Amazon gift cards.

But I was just like, no, I need this check made out to so-and-so. Yeah. And they were like, do you know this person? Have you met this person? I'm like, yeah. And for me to do that took a lot. Like, I had to go in and really – Look, I know he's a Nigerian prince.

But it's just – Get past that part. It was that kind of idea. And they're doing this all on the phone. And they're like, all right, you seem to know the guy. You seem to be you. Right? And then it just went on and on and on and on. Good for the bank, though, for at least trying to protect you. Right? And then it just went on and on and on and on.

Good for the bank, though, for at least trying to protect you, right? It's better than the alternative of them not caring at all. You think they would have protected the hundreds of million dollars they were giving away of Shohei Ota. Maybe they were like, they knew who Shohei was. They're like, ah, he's too busy. You know, he's on the road a lot. Maybe we can't get it in person. My hope in all of this is that the biographical

information was actually read off the back of his baseball card. How many hits did you have? Shohei, do you bat left or right? He's like, left. He's like, but I throw right. And they're like, well, that checks out. They're like, who did you play for in 2013? And he's like, the Nippon Ham Fighters.

They're like, oh, good. Okay. Here's $17 million. I also like that I was actually, you know, to tell you the truth, sorry to cut you off there, but I do it all the time so who cares yeah um the one thing i was disappointed when i read this complaint was it answered all my questions and i was hoping to have this as my like i'm not a big conspiracy guy but i was hoping to have this otani thing as my conspiracy like it'll be the one that I'll believe and I will lean into this that there's something off about this story.

No, no, I'm aware. I remember when we had Adnan Virk on. I was like, damn it, I wanted that. We had Adnan Virk on the show and every question that he would answer would be followed up with Jason saying, yeah, but there's got to be more to this. Turns out there was not.

And there was not. But there's got to be something else. Well, Tony was just so rich that he didn't really notice because he did have investments in other accounts. He did have accountants and investment advisors, but Ipe just controlled this one account, and it happened to be the account that his payroll came into,

and he was very good at fooling people. Sometimes. And he had the advantage of being the translator between Shohei. Apparently, the speech that Ipe gave the Dodgers dressing room, Otani didn't even understand the speech because the speech was in English. Yeah, he didn't know what was going on.

He's like, is everything okay? And Ipe was like, not really. Then he had to explain it to him afterwards. It is interesting. I tweeted it out. If you want to go to my Twitter afterwards there it is interesting i tweeted it out if you want to go to my twitter account in a sad club commission and see it you can see some of the text messages that go back and forth between epay and the bookmaker and when the report in the newspaper

is about to come up epay is like it is all over for me see some of the texts that he sent the bookmaker like he's like i have also lost a lot of money in crypto um and you're like oh my god now this has to be a movie it has to be the perfect encapsulation of this conversation and then brough's seemingly steadfast refusal until now to accept it as what it is keith that's keithf, K-E-E-F, texted in. Are we really believing it wasn't actually Otani calling? Yes. Yes.

I saw the court case. Honestly, just read it all because they've got, you know, the banks have the IP addresses from the various devices that Ipe used and they're all Ipe's. The banks have the IP addresses from the various devices that ePay used, and they're all ePays. There's a lot of people spouting off about this without actually reading the complaint. So go and read the complaint, and if you still have questions about it, certainly text in.

Lots more to get to. It's 37 pages long, though, so you might have to do a little bit of work. Might be a little hard for the brain. We got one final segment to come. We're going to give away tickets to see Snoop on June 25th at Rogers Arena. Text in now. WWL is the hashtag. Ticket emoji

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bets weekdays, three to four on Sportsnet 650, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now for my favorite part of the show. What'd I say? Talk to the audience. Oh, God, this is always dead. It's what we learn time. It's what we learn time. It's what we learn time.

It's what we learn time. On the show. 8.33 on a Wednesday. Happy Wednesday, everybody. Halford Brough of Sportsnet 650. Halford Brough for the morning is brought to you by Vancouver Honda, Vancouver's premier destination for Honda customers. They have a friendly, knowledgeable staff that can help with anything you're looking for,

sales, financing, service, or parts. We are in Hour 3 of the program. It is what we learn time. Hour 3 is brought to you by Campbell & Pound Real Estate Appraisers. Trust the expertise of Campbell & Pound. Visit them on the internet at campbell-pound.com today. I will say one thing that Basketball Ben does not do as well as you, Laddie.

He always brings down the music for what we learn. So when I try and hit it just right, the music's fading away. I brought it up to him. I have a little more familiarity with your act. He never caught on.

Basketball Ben, if you're listening, figure it out. Alright, let's do some What We Learns here. I have one non-sports division. Kind of fits in with the theme of the song because we're giving away Snoop tickets every day this week. So I was...

This is also proof that I am too online currently. So, you know, the Alchemist hip hop producer, one of the better ones the last 20 years, he was doing a Q&A with some of his fans yesterday. They were asking him about if he was cool with the fact that Kendrick Lamar used one of his beats for that diss track that he did against Drake, Meet the Grams. You know that?

And Alchemist said, no, I don't care. He's like, I'm more bothered by the fact that all these years I didn't know that Captain Crunch's name is Horatio Magellan Crunch. Wait, what? Captain Crunch. And I know this would get your attention. You have my attention. From the abyss that you were currently sitting in there, you snapped into attention.

Yeah. What about Captain Crunch? Captain Crunch, which is, by the way, a horrible, horrible breakfast cereal. That's a take, but okay. I'll just move past that part. Destroying roofs of mouths. Roofs of mouths, yeah. Real men can eat it, but okay, I'll just move past that part. Destroying roofs of mouths. Roofs of mouths, yeah. Real men can eat it, but okay.

Captain Crunch has a real name. Wow. And his real name is Horatio Magellan Crunch. Wow. What's his backstory? I'm reading the Wikipedia right now. There's some gold in here. Are you reading it?

Yeah. What's his backstory? The guy who created Captain Crunch also created the Munsters. Really? In the Mary Tyler Moore show. Wow. Also created Captain Crunch. That's like A-Dog's hero.

He created cereal and TV. That is a talented man. The Mary Tyler Moore cereal. That's incredible. Sometimes I watch TV while I'm eating cereal. Yeah. It's such a marriage of things that I love. We tried the Mary Tyler Moore cereal, never took off.

We moved on. But then I came up with Captain Crunch. So there you go. Now you've all learned something. Nothing to do with anything. Proof that I'm too online. Horatio Magellan Crunch. Moo cow.

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Plan. I have learned that the more I do the read, the more I sound like Lenny saying plan, plan. Yeah, you're channeling your inner Lenny there. Getfireplan.com. Go ahead, Andy. What we learned, tick an emoji. I learned many years later that my junior hockey coach stole the term regulators from Warren G, who stole it from Young Guns. He would yell from the bench, regulators, mount up, Which meant that our two toughs were now off-leash

and had free reign to smash the living hell out of anyone in their way. I thought it was cool and original until I heard the song in 2010, Matt Knott on the Island. I used to think you were an original coach. Regulators, mount up! I just love the idea of a couple tough guys going off the bench. Oh, he said our line. I'm not going to hit him.

So, were you a big Young Guns guy back in the day? That was a pretty sick movie, I'm not going to lie. Oh, yeah, and it had all the stars. Yeah, it was the Brad Pack. So it was Kiefer Sutherland, Lou Diamond Phillips, Charlie Sheen, Dermot Mulroney, and some other guy I've never heard of, Casey Zamasco. Wasn't What's-His-Name from Tommy Boy

and Wayne's World in there? You know. Rob Lowe? Yeah. No, no, no. He wasn't in it? No, no, no. Chris Farley? Was he in Young Men's? That would have been awesome. Holy shnikes, this horse! No, he wasn't in it. I can't believe

you didn't even mention Emilio Estevez as being in there. He was Billy the Kid. Oh, sorry. Yeah, I was reading off the, what's it called? What's the movie poster? Oh, okay. Yeah, sorry. Brother of Charlie Sheen.

I skipped right past him. Emilio! I skipped right past him. Anyway, congratulations to our winner. We still have two more sets of tickets to give out tomorrow and Friday for Snoop. So if you didn't win today, rest easy. There will be more tickets available. Aaron and Langley, what we learned, I've learned the WNBA is

getting a lot of attention for all the wrong reasons. Sadly, it's turning into a soap opera and all the positive momentum it had is fading away quickly. Aaron and Langley, I don't think the WNBA is too upset about all the attention that this league is getting. It's not at all.

Aaron, we live in a society is too upset about all the attention that this league is getting. It's not at all. That's the crazy. Aaron, we live in a society where there is no such thing as bad attention. No publicity is bad publicity. There's no such thing anymore. It's been like that forever. It's gotten worse. Well, it's only good if you have no shame in most leagues. Don't have a lot of it.

If you're getting publicity regardless of what it is, most entities are like, cool. The advent of these. Think of what the WNBA was two years ago. Oh, it's totally different. Now think of how it is now. Yeah. I mean, to a certain degree, Brough and I are the same.

We exist in an attention gathering like is a commodity, right? Eyeballs, clicks, all those things that you people like to throw at us as insults. We embrace it because we understand that if you don't have haters, you ain't popping. So it doesn't matter good, bad or otherwise. Now the thing is, sports is built on storylines.

Right. That's all. Narrative gets a bad rap because there are people that push false narratives, but there are also people that push the idea of narratives being a bad idea too much. Like it's not going to suit your narrative. Like there are also people that push the idea of narratives being a bad idea too much. Like, it's not going to suit your narrative. Like there are great sports narratives. Some of them are myths and those myths eventually get broken, but we like, okay, Kyrie going back to Boston.

That's a narrative. We're seeing how this storyline plays out. And there are some people that will text me and be like, I just watch because I like basketball. And it's like, well, enjoy the basketball then. You can go into the X's and O's and you can enjoy all the technical and fundamental aspects of basketball. But a lot of us are going to be watching to see how Kyrie reacts

to the Celtics fans and how the Celtics fans react to Kyrie. Now back to the NBA story. I do think that what's gone on over the last 48 to 72 hours will maybe be instructive, dare I say a learning lesson, for a lot of major media outlets to figure out how to cover the league properly. Because parachuting in and using, and I think the best was Jim Trotter,

who we tried to get on the show. I actually really respected. Can you read his denial for reason for coming on our show? So Jim Trotter wrote a piece for sports, the athletic yesterday about the whole mess and the fiasco and the hoopla that is Caitlin Clark. And he was saying that unfortunately for her, she's become a proxy for race relations,

gender relations, wage inequity, right? And all she's trying to do to do she's like i'm just trying to hit this three here and with someone pushing me to the ground repeatedly what did he say uh i said hi andrew thanks for reaching out but i'm going to pass i don't want to contribute to the circus any more than i already have respectfully jim i respect the hell out of that you know he's like i don't call you that's how you create small circuses we want to create big circuses that's gonna be the biggest circus in the world howard's like i respect that bro it's like weak yeah i kind of live by saying if you ain't got no haters you ain't popping so hate away uh woodrow the eligible bachelor what we learned we're gonna have to get the hot take horn ready here christian mccaffrey signed a two-year extension with the 49ers worth $38 million.

He will make more than whatever Elias Lindholm will earn this offseason. Reset the running back market with that two-year deal. $19 million per. Laddie wasn't listening. I said we're going to need the hot take horn. I was previewing that clip, sorry. Okay. Do it.

There you go. It's still good. So Woodrow, the eligible bachelor, has set the over-under on Elias Lindholm's total money on his next contract at $38 million. I'm taking the over there. I think he's going to get it. So I have a good- Like even six years at $7 million would get over there.

I have a good spinoff story. Because that's 42, just in case. Oh, I got it. Thank you. Thank you. Please don't belabor this any further. I had a good spinoff story. Because that's 42, just in case. Thank you. Thank you. Please don't belabor this any further. I had a good story about this. And it involves Thomas Drance.

So Thomas Drance is the commissioner of our Fantasy Football League. Okay. The Fantasy Football League started as being a very elaborate one to begin with. But Drance has taken it to... Oh, my God. He gave that man power? What are you thinking? Yeah.

Yeah, I was going to say that sucks for you. I just want to give you an idea of what I'm currently going through. So the draft began yesterday. And for those of you thinking, wait a minute, isn't June 4th early to start the draft? The answer is hell yes. And it has begun with the rule book is 38 pages long. It involves so many rules and regulations. Did Drance write the rules?

He wrote the whole thing. What? He's developed. He wrote the rule book? There's no way that this league could possibly exist in anywhere other than his head. It is insane. Does he read all the rules out before he starts a draft? So the entire thing exists both on WhatsApp and then on an app that you can do the drafting.

The draft goes on for weeks. Drance has created his own app. thing exists both on whatsapp and then on an app that you can do the drafting you have a the draft goes on for weeks drances created his own app there's a four-hour window in which you get to make your pick and it goes all day every day and i was sitting there yesterday and i was like out for dinner and i came back and i had 37 missed missed messages on my phone right i'm like i don't know did you miss your window no i had a four-hour window but everyone was like hurry up oh like what about the four-hour window yeah i everyone was like, hurry up. I'm like, well, what about the four-hour window? Yeah, I'm in my window right now. They don't respect the four-hour window.

I got to make all my picks at two in the morning, so the next person has a two to six a.m. window. The draft goes on hold from 9 p.m. to 9 a.m. Pacific. It is crazy. You draft spots so that there's a subsequent rookie draft halfway through the year that you then have another draft to draft rookies i don't know what i signed up for and i don't know if i can get out it's like being in the bloods and or crips well you have to read the rule book to see

if you get out i couldn't read it it's too long i couldn't all of it yeah anyway so that's what i'm dealing with right you come in without come in with a violation? 32B. Yeah, basically. What was that free agent clause in the? 162C. Something like that. Yeah. And he just kept on bringing it up. And I'm like, yeah, is he a free agent or not?

And you know what? I'm not going to lie. It became part of my lexicon. I'm like, you can't sign that guy. Is it 162C? I don't even know if you've got it right there. I don't think I do. Gary and Cedar with what we learned,

the CFL's head office has demonstrated a total lack of common sense in signing the Jonas brothers as the halftime act at this year's gray cup. There's countless great Canadian bands that would have been a better choice and also target the demographic thereafter. Come on guys. This is a uniquely Canadian event.

Uh, yeah, I don't know. I disagree. I think the Jonas Brothers created some buzz. Who are the Canadian bands that they'd be referring to? Well, he didn't refer to any. I mean, outside of like Justin Bieber, I can't really think of anyone. I know a Canadian band. I guess Carly Rae Jepsen.

We talked about them earlier this morning, guys. Huh? I know a Canadian band they should book. We talked about them earlier. Don't do it. No. 54-40. I had 54-40s, a couple songs stuck in my head this morning on the way in,

so I was humming one of them. I saw 54-40 at the Grey Cup. I've told this story before. The Grey Cup in Regina. Yep. And we went out and had such a big night that the next- You and 54-40? No, no, no.

We went out with my buddies, and one of the things we did was see 5440 in one of the, in one of the bars there. And the next morning, you know, when you're talking about the night with all your buddies and laughing and like, it is honestly sometimes better than the night when you're telling the stories of what happened the night before.

Someone mentioned that we went to the 5440 concert and one of my buddies goes, oh yeah, we saw 5440 last night. It was such a big long night that that was just one of the details. That's a pretty major omission. That's like the hangover. Oh yeah.

I keep forgetting about the cop car. Bruff woke up on a roof somewhere. By the way, Regina knows how to do a Grey Cup. I'm not trying to poo-poo your 5440s to Justin Halford, but if they're trying to aim for a younger demographic, I don't know if that's the angle they want to go towards. I think Halford was joking about having 5440 as the Grey Cup. I don't think he was.

I was singing One Day in Your Life this morning. Yeah, he told us. Not Ocean Pearl? Not Ocean Pearl. And then we went down the road of I Go Blind, which of course was more famously covered by Hootie and the Blowfish.

Yeah, how many bands can say that their band that covered them had a bigger hit than their version? That's gotta piss them off, though. Such a big cover, such a big song in the 90s.

Like, oh, come on, man. Then they get the royalty check. I do wonder. Do you think Hootie and the Blowfish is possibly the most played band ever on a golf course? Yeah, there's a lot of Hootie on the golf course. Let's ask Murph to bring him back.

Nikita Zdorov had it on repeat. He's like, I love these guys. Austin and Langley, what we learned, the Bank of Canada dropped interest rates today. Maybe that will help UFAs afford to stick around. Zdorov and Lindholm might be able to afford to live here. Yeah, well, I hope it helps some people. Andy was asking some questions about falling real estate rates. Well, everyone was tweeting about it, and I don't know economics at all.

You know what? I was like, is that good or is that bad? I don't understand. I respect you asking. Because I saw people freaking out about it in a good and a bad way. So I was like, what's the actual answer? I respect you just flat out asking. We need to do more of that as adults.

Just cop to not knowing things. Oh, I have no idea about how economics work. Yeah. If there's the bank interest. First of all, I'm not a homeowner. So that's probably why. But if somebody was like, oh, the interest rates rose or dropped. I'm like, okay.

What's for breakfast? That's what it means to me. I was like, Norm Mac the interest rates rose or dropped. I'm like, okay, what's for breakfast? That's what it means to me. I was like Norm MacDonald had a good bet. He was like, I always read the news and they say the Dow Jones is up. What's a Dow Jones? Is that good? It's what Brough used to ask me what escrow was. And I'm like, it's like a pile of money.

Oh, I remember that. And someone holds it. The 1040 escrow days. Or when we were independent contractors writing for the Curtain blog, and I said, you got to keep your receipts so we can use those as write-offs. And at the end of the year, Halford comes to me with this shoebox of receipts, and I'm like, a lot of these are Safeway receipts. I kept my grocery receipts.

You can't write off your groceries, man. Just write them off. You don't even know what a write-off is. But you do. And they're the ones who are writing it off. Do you know what I wonder? What percentage of people just don't do their taxes? Just anti-tax?

No, they just don't. Dude, I'm like Ned Flannery. Text into the- No, no, no. No, but like, so I've, you know, we get some texts into the Dunbar Lumber text line that are not smart, I guess the word is. And I'm kind of like, are you going through

your taxes every year? Are you doing your taxes every year? You know, like don't you have friends? Don't you have friends that you're like, how do you get through the day? Yeah. A lot. You know? Some of them are in this room. I just wonder. I don't you have friends that you're like how do you get through the day yeah a lot you know some of them are in this room i just wonder i don't know i'm not trying to sound like a snob by the way it's okay i don't think you're i get what he's saying though you wonder if you should wonder how people have ever had a conversation with someone you're like how

did you dress yourself? Wow. Yeah. I mean, I guess there's a reason for H&R Block, but you know what I mean? Like, yeah, how did you dress yourself? How did you get out the house today? People struggle following directions, so I wonder what the tax thing, because there's a lot of directions involved in that and things you got to do properly. TurboTax is pretty...

It's very guiding. Think of the average person. Half of the population is dumber than that. So put two and two together. I don't want to sound like a snob here. Well, they definitely couldn't be in Drance's fantasy football league or anything like that. Yeah, like I'm

not looking forward to the rest of the day. Pletus, you've been on the clock for three hours. Y'all, what do I do with this? Draft Joe Montana. Again tyler in chilliwack hashtag wwo we learned the mariners are leading their division by five and a half games for the first time since 2003 tyler i'm gonna take your word on it because we just got caught up with the blue jays today this week was to get caught up on the sports stories that we've been neglecting uh i did about a i did 10 good minutes on the nba yesterday with ben and that was to make up on the sports stories that we've been neglecting. I did 10 good minutes on the NBA yesterday

with Ben, and that was to make up for the fact that we hadn't done any NBA for the previous four months. Today, we did a lot of Blue Jays right off the hop to make up for the fact that we haven't talked about them since we're talking Mariners. Let me throw this at you. The Mariners first place in their division fired their hitting strategists

because they're very poor in the hitting categories. They've been very good at pitching. They have a hitting strategist? Because they're very poor in the hitting categories. They've been very good at pitching. They have a hitting strategist? That's what they call them? Every team does nowadays. Oh, really? So the Blue Jays, what's stopping them? They're one of the worst hitting teams as well.

They're not leading their division by a number of games, clearly. What's the holdup here? The Mariners are already jumping the gun. So would the hitting strategist be like, to the Jays, hit it higher? Yeah. Well, no, I believe it's Don Mattingly, and he's been telling them to hit it lower, which is why the Jays have

been down the call. You mean future manager Don Mattingly? Future manager. I don't think we even discussed that this morning, by the way, the inevitability of getting rid of John Schneider. Is that not the card, the last card that Atkins has to play? Bring in a Brubé-like coach. The only thing is, objectively, just looking at the team,

I don't think John Schneider is the problem, or the main problem. I know, but it's also the last card that they have to play before everything falls apart. I think they get one more crack at the manager. They? It's been almost 10 years as GM. How many cracks do you get? Well, he went from Montoya to Schneider,

and that was supposed to be the, we're going to be an unserious team, and now we're a serious team. Maybe they're going to go back to being unserious. Bring back Gibby. Yeah. He's got a fun-loving guy in the dugout. I don't know who. Text into the Dunbar-Lumber text line, an accountant from Surrey here,

there are way more people than you think who don't do their taxes. I bet there are. It's scary. I bet there are. There's probably a lot of people that leave, that don't do their taxes. I bet there are. It's scary. I bet there are. There's probably a lot of people that leave, that don't do their taxes, and nobody goes after them, or CRA doesn't go after them because they're actually owed a refund.

Yeah, or like YOLO, right? Like, you know. I mean. What happens, though? What happens if you don't do them for like 10 years? Try it. It's not good. Try it.

It's not good. I don't know, but it's not good. Like the YOLO approach doesn't work. YOLO and CRA, while both acronyms. Well, if you work for a company that takes your taxes off your paycheck, then you're probably going to be okay because you probably actually owed a refund or maybe, or at the very least, you don't owe much because you have been paying your taxes through your work. But if you work as an independent contractor that's responsible for paying all your taxes and you don't pay your taxes, you will probably find out the hard way that that is not a good decision to make.

More and more people are independent contractors these days. Yeah. And anyway. More people are likely not doing their taxes. Like this. What do you mean do your taxes? They already take it off my check. It's already done.

There we go. That's the kind of people we were talking about right there. That's the kind of approach that the Alfred and Brough show is built upon. The bedrock of our show. One guy's mind being blown right now. He's like, oh my God, I haven't done them in 20 years. You have to do your taxes? Some dude freaking out on the road right now has to pull over.

Oh my God, I forgot about the taxes. Taj the Blueberry Guy texts in, Ask us anything. Is Bruff shook? He's not part of that fantasy football league. I feel he's shook. No. Taj, that's probably the most wrong text we've ever received

in the Dunbar Lumber text line. Whatever the opposite of shook is, that's what Bruff is. There is. There is... You could guarantee I win that league every year and win like 10 grand. I would still not want to be part of Thomas Drance's fantasy football league. You know why? Because he's doing fun stuff like going on a golf trip.

No, Brough, for the next couple of days. Have fun on your trip, bud, and enjoy your vacation. We've got Jimmy Dodd in tomorrow. And Jimmy Dodd will be filling in his shoes. Oh, he's so good. He's excellent. He is good. He is excellent.

You should take him on your golf trip. Wonder boy. Take him to dinner. We've got to get out of here for today, but I'll be back tomorrow. Signing off, I have been Mike Alford. He's been Jason Brough. He's been A-Dog. And he's been Laddie.

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