Halford & Brough in the Morning - Dhali Puts In A Canucks Update + What We Learned

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

In hour three, Mike & Jason get the latest Canucks news from Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal (3:00), the boys tell us what they learned (20:00), plus it's Ask Us Anything Friday! (27:00) This podcast i...s produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Dolly. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. 801 on a Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. Halford Brough, Sportsnet 650.
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Starting point is 00:01:10 Kintec, that's what you're waiting for. To the phone lines we go. Now, before we even introduce our next guest, I just want to replay the audio that we're going to ask him about. This is from Donnie and Dolly on Check TV. During the middle of the week, they're talking to their producer, Ryan Henderson, uh, that he forgot to mention his wife's birthday.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Hilarity ensues. Here's what it sounded like. She had eight o'clock tonight. Sit down and let's put it in. And he'll stay. You're going to have a new segment called out of context. Dolly wall. We're just going to play clips like that,
Starting point is 00:01:41 but then we bring them on. He joins us now. Rick Dollywall on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Rick, first question, what were you trying to say in that moment? I was trying to say. Or did you say exactly what you wanted to say? No, no. I was trying to say you're going to go home
Starting point is 00:01:56 and re-watch the show on the couch with the wifey, and you're going to put it on the show. You're going to watch it. And I accidentally said, you're going to put it on the show. You're going to watch it. And I accidentally said, I got it. You're going to put it in. We thought that you might've meant that you record all the shows on VHS still. And then you put the tape in. No, I missed those days. Don't you guys miss going to Tom's video or whatever it is?
Starting point is 00:02:19 You know, every Friday night, getting a video popping in the old VCR. I miss those days. Feels like a blockbuster night, Rick, or Tom's video in this instance. Dolly, you've got to stop pining for the past. No. Bruf, you and I have been through this about our industry, and I don't like the way our industry is going. And you and I have been, we've had talks about this.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I'm an old-fashioned guy. I miss the old days. I don't like, you know, the computerized everything else. I miss, you know, being on the steps and the newspaper guy throwing the newspaper at 3.30. You know, I miss, you know, the TV, radio, newspapers. I'm an old, I hate this new technology world. Well, what are you going to do about it? Just hate it?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Well, but I can't do anything about it. That's what I'm telling you. I can't do anything about it. Yeah. But I miss the old days. I really do. Okay. Well, let's can't do anything about it. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah, but I miss the old days. I really do. Okay, well, let's talk some hockey here. Quinn Hughes and Chris Tanev were at a concert earlier this week in Detroit, and that was on Quinn Hughes' Instagram stories.
Starting point is 00:03:21 See, back in the days, they didn't have Instagram. Wouldn't have been able to do this. Exactly. What do you make of that? Just two guys who are friends meeting up, or do you think Quinn Hughes is doing some recruiting? Best friends. Best friends. I had a chuckle with Tanev's agent this morning. He's like, man, you guys in Vancouver, you don't miss much. I said, wait, are you kidding me? You know, one of the superstars in Vancouver puts on Instagram a picture with your client, Chris Tanev, who, you know, and he's having a chuckle. He's like, you guys in Vancouver, man, you guys are something else.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I said, no, no, no, no, no. Got to love Hughes, though, posting that picture. Look, I said earlier this season that Hughes went to management and said, go get Tanev at the deadline. He wasn't the only one in that dressing room. Tanev's loved everywhere he goes. Dallas is trying to re-sign him, but at age 34, Tanev can sign with the team who's got a shot at the cup, or he can sign closer to his home of Toronto or Vancouver, a city he still has a very soft spot for. He never wanted to leave. He's got really good friends here in Vancouver on and off the ice. You know, when the Flames are trying to trade him, Tana really, really wanted Vancouver to be the destination. He was telling close friends, boy, oh boy, if the Canucks can get me, it'd be great.
Starting point is 00:04:35 It never was meant to be, but it's going to be tough for the Canucks to sign Tana. He could command four years and over five million, Jason, that's a lot they just committed 7.2 to haronic um the canucks like chatfield a lot and that tells you the range they were willing to spend on a right shot d because chatfield got around three million right so that kind of kind of tells you something about their thinking on the right side canucks are going to have to open up a ton of cap space to go after tannev it's too bad because Tanev should have gone coast to coast in this city, playing in Vancouver his whole career. Now he looks like he won't finish his career here.
Starting point is 00:05:13 But look, Ottawa, keep an eye on Ottawa. They're trying to get Tanev's brother out of Seattle right now. You do that, and the chances to land Chris go up because mom and dad are in Toronto. Chris has got a young family now, so there's a lot of considerations. But I don't know. The people I talk to, it's just going to be really tough, Jason, to get Chris Tannen. Really tough. Zdorov or Joshua, who do the Canucks have a better chance of retaining?
Starting point is 00:05:41 Oh, my goodness. That's a loaded question. Very loaded. I will say this. The good news for the Canucks is that Joshua and Zdorov are willing to wait. They have not announced that they're going to the market. They easily could have done that by now. Milstein is willing to be patient and open-minded when it comes to Zdorov, both agents are. Clearly, both players want to return, but there is a cap crunch causing headaches. There hasn't been talks with Zdorov.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I don't think there's been any talks on both sides in a long time. It's been quiet, same as Joshua. Now, Jim Rutherford telling Ian McIntyre yesterday that we've been talking to these guys for a long time. It's their choice now. They've got to make a choice. That tells you, that's Jim saying, our offers aren't going to get better. We've been talking, and guess what, guys?
Starting point is 00:06:32 The offers just are not going to get better, and we are now, what, 10 days away from July 1st? Both players are going to have a ton of teams after them. Joshua's market is very strong. He'll get over $3 million. I wouldn't be surprised if his hometown Red Wings make a pitch for Joshua. That's something that's out there. But here's one for you. And nobody can tell me that Rick Tockett's going to be happy if Joshua and Zdorov leave. Joshua is, Jason, are you ready for this?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Joshua is still third in the NHL playoffs and hits with 74. I know. He's only played 13 games. Only Dylan Holloway and Sam Bennett have more hits. That's impressive. And that's what you don't want to lose. In 13 games, he had 74 hits, and there's only two guys, Holloway and Bennett, and they played a hell of a lot more than 13.
Starting point is 00:07:24 But I will say this. The Canucks are well prepared for July 1st, and you know they've got plan Bs ready to go if Joshua and Zdorov leave. Retaining size, obviously, is going to be important on that market. Expect the Canucks to target players like Brendan Dillon and Joel Edmondson, 6'4", 6'5", Jordan Martinuk, another heavy body. So, look, Jason, we're 10 days away. I can't report any progress. I can't report hot and heavy contract talks with the two guys you asked for about.
Starting point is 00:07:53 But it's where we're at, and we've got to wait and see. But don't rule it out. The fact that Joshua and Zdorov still wait, don't ever rule anything out. One phone call can change a whole lot of things. I like Martinuk. That'd be a nice player for them to target. What about Mikheyev? Things have changed in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:08:15 We're no longer in this flat cap scenario, and you see a lot of teams with cap space. Theoretically, it should be easier to trade a guy like Ilya Mikheyev, but do you still think it's going to be one of those situations where the Canucks would have to sweeten the pot to trade Mikheyev or retain some salary? Yeah, well, first of all, let me tell you something. They didn't just wake up after the playoffs and start trying to move this guy. They were trying to do it at the trade deadline, too. The fact that the Canucks gave Milstein permission to help with the trade says a lot. They need to free up that McKay of money to pitch in a little bit more on Joshua
Starting point is 00:08:54 and Zdorov and others. Agents getting involved, they do help a little, but they don't close deals. What's going to close a McKay of deal is if the Canucks retain money or throw in a sweetener. So they don't have much draft capital, no first or second this year. They don't have a deep prospect pool. So that doesn't help either. You guys remember Garland's agent got permission, Besser's agent got permission. What happened there? Nothing. So what the agent does is he calls around some buddies, GMs, some teams he's really tight with and says, hey, can you do something here? And then, okay, well, let me call the Canucks. And again,
Starting point is 00:09:29 I don't think they want to retain. I don't think they want to retain. $4.7 million is too much for a bottom six winger. You know, he scored 21 goals in his contract year, and the Canucks gave him big bucks, and now they're trying to rectify the mistake. And it's going to be tough. Let's put it this uh uh jason probably when the playoff started they probably started getting
Starting point is 00:09:50 mckay's name out there we're now four weeks over and just milstein's getting involved i mean i mean it's it's it's going to be very tough to do so earlier in the show we were talking about jim rutherford's interview with IMAC and how there were two things that that that caught my eye one was Rutherford saying that you know if Lekker Amaki comes into camp and plays well he might be able to earn his way onto the team but the the other one that more and more people were talking about was the Brock Besser update where he basically said no we're not going to talk extension this summer. We're going to wait on that.
Starting point is 00:10:29 And if Brock Besser comes back next season and has a similar sort of season as he did this past season, then we'll talk about his future. What did you make of that? Well, it doesn't sound like they're very committed or 100% sold on Brock. It's risky. You're going to make Brock prove it.
Starting point is 00:10:47 But so let's say Brock proves it. If he scores 40 again, it's going to cost them way, way, way more than if they do something this summer. The number this summer and the number at Christmastime with him with 21 goals are going to be two totally different numbers. If he scores 40 again, that number is going to be very, very, very high. Like, I don't know, like, even this summer, the number would be a pretty good increase. You're coming off 40 goals, any agent's going to be licking his chops, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But it doesn't sound like they're committed. I wonder if you get Gensel, if it makes it tougher to get Besser, redo Besser. I mean, do you really want two wingers, both making eight, nine million? I mean, you know, that's a lot of money, you know, to two wingers in the top six. But when I first saw that, I kind of said to myself, it doesn't sound like they're very committed or sold on Brock. Are you hearing anything more on Jake Gensel? Well, Canucks, I'll tell you one thing. The Besser's agent is Ben Hankinson, right? They're not calling him on Besser on July 1st,
Starting point is 00:11:54 but you can bet they'll be calling him on Gensel because he's got Gensel too. I know a lot of people are confident that he's going to end up in Vancouver, but I was told to park the brakes a little here. First, the Hurricanes are still trying to re-sign, and I'll get into the benefits of him going to Carolina, but the Hurricanes are still trying to re-sign him. Second, any team can obtain his negotiating rights before July 1st and blow Vancouver out of the water.
Starting point is 00:12:19 I want you to think about the Chapfield contract in Carolina. He re-signed there because he loves Brindamore, but also because the state tax in North Carolina is a measly 5%. And the cost of living is incredibly low. If Chatfield would have signed in Vancouver on July 1st and the Canucks had, they did have interest. I'm told it would have cost the Canucks $3.5 million. That's because of the high taxes, obviously, canada and also the cost of living in vancouver and toronto is just incredibly high and just crazy right now so i've been told the hurricanes are not done trying to sign ganso that tax situation really helps uh the hurricanes retain players and the cost of living in carolina so i i'm told that, you know, there's a lot of teams involved. It's just not Vancouver. I know I get the hype in Vancouver for Gensel, but it's far from like
Starting point is 00:13:12 nobody is standing up and saying that Vancouver and Gensel is going to get done. There's going to be a lot of things that happen before that happens. One thing I will say, the fact that Gensel is an American willing to sign as a UFA in Vancouver is a very good sign for the Canucks. Not many Americans do that in free agency. If you look at all the Americans on the Canucks roster, and they have a ton of them, but most of them were acquired through the draft and free agency, or sorry, trades. So trades and the draft, very few on the UFA status. I've just been told it's a good hockey fit for him in Vancouver,
Starting point is 00:13:52 but I've also been told there's going to be a lot of competition for this guy. Hey, of the guys, and the Canucks have done a lot of work this week, Philip Peronic aside. Oh, yeah, a lot of good deals this week. Really good deals. So Mark Friedman, Linus Carlson, Cole McWard. I'll throw you on the spot. If you had to pick one of those guys that's going to make the biggest impact in the NHL or play the most games for the Canucks this year, who do you think it would be?
Starting point is 00:14:10 That's an interesting one. Friedman, first I want to say one thing. I really appreciated Alvin saying he's a team player. You know, when you have that guy that is sitting on the fence, he's kind of a tweener, goes between the American League and the NHL.
Starting point is 00:14:25 It doesn't bitch and complain and whine. A lot of players, when they get sent to the minors, they call their agent and say, hey, you know what, I'm pissed, I shouldn't be here, call the Canucks GM. And Mark Friedman is a really, really, really good team player, and that's a character guy they kept in the fold. He doesn't, you remember, do you guys remember when Friedman got sent to Abbotsford for four games?
Starting point is 00:14:44 He went down there and had one goal, three assists, didn't complain. And absolutely, you've got to keep those guys that don't complain, but they're fringe players. You know, the 6, 7, 8 defensemen, those guys that don't complain. But I really liked the Friedman signing. I really did. Also, another signing Mike didn't mention didn't mention, was Chase Waters, the captain. He's a very young captain. He was only 23 when he was named a captain. He would
Starting point is 00:15:12 have had interest on July 1st, but he signed a two-year American League deal. The only reason he signed an American League deal, because if he would have signed his entry-level deal, coming out of that, his qualifying offer would have been really, really, really low. So the agent decided to do another two-year American League deal. Look, they do have guys. I saw Rutherford say that there's four or five guys in Abbotsford that could push for spots. I really hope that's true. I really hope that's true.
Starting point is 00:15:39 And you're putting a lot of pressure on LeKarimaki to say that he's going to come into camp and push for a spot when he's coming out of Sweden and hasn't really played a full year of North American hockey as well. But to answer your question, Mike, I would like somebody, one of the problems that Canucks have, you always need two to three to four guys in Abbotsford pushing for spots. I hope that happens at this year's camp. But I mentioned the prospect pool after Willander and LeKarimaki. It's not known around the NHL as a deep prospect pool.
Starting point is 00:16:09 It's not. I'm sorry. Didn't you guys see? Weren't they ranked 27th or 28th for prospects in the NHL not long ago? It takes time to build it. And you know what? When you trade eight first and second round picks in the last five years like they have, you don't have a deep prospect pool.
Starting point is 00:16:25 And this year, no first or second again. That doesn't help Abbotsford when you keep trading first and second round picks. Rick, I know it's a scary new world out there sometimes. Things are always changing. We always have new technology and everything. I want to let you know that there is
Starting point is 00:16:41 still a bit of old school out there. Tom's video is still a bit of old school out there. Tom's Video is still a fully functional business. It exists. It's open 24 hours every day this weekend. It's a 24-hour video store? What kind of video store is it? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:56 You'll have to go check it out. It's right by Renfrew Station on Grandview Highway. You can go check it out this weekend. Tom's Video still exists, and they're still renting whatever movies you can get there. Tom's video still exists. I'm there. I'm there tonight. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Tom's video is definitely. Is Tom's video an adult? I don't know. Video store? 24 hours? We've had listeners point that out to us, yes. That might be. The weird part is it's open 24 hours a day, but it's closed on Tuesdays.
Starting point is 00:17:26 All days to be closed. The day of rest. Yeah, right. I'm so tired. Okay, we got a lot more to get to on the Halford & Brough show on Sportsnet 650. What we learned, ask us anything. I've got a couple. I'll do one right now.
Starting point is 00:17:37 I learned that veteran NHL forward and most recently a member of the Colorado Avalanche, Andrew Coglianoiano has announced his retirement. And what's more, he's moving straight into a front office role with the Colorado Avalanche. The only reason I mention this is because the one thing, and it was a really understated crazy moment in NHL history. So back in 2018, Andrew Cogliano looked like he was going to become the NHL's new Ironman.
Starting point is 00:18:06 You remember that? He had 830 games played in a row. He played through all kinds of injuries. He was very proud of the fact that he was on his way to becoming the next NHL's Ironman, which has later been claimed by Keith Yandel and then Phil Kessel. There was just a hiccup in the 2018 season, though. He had a high hit on a game on Adrian Kempe. He got a penalty during the game for a two-minute minor check to the head,
Starting point is 00:18:36 and Kempe came back in the game and played. No one talked about it. It didn't even make the Gamer the report that night. No media members talked to him about it. Then he found out later that he was going to have a hearing for the illegal check to the head the hearing was with george peros who not only was a former anaheim duck which was who cogliano was playing for the time he was a former teammate of cogliano's and he suspended him two games ruining his Ironman streak so after the announcement was
Starting point is 00:19:07 made I remember the Ducks TV broadcast did a stand-up interview with Cogliano and he broke down and started crying in the interview right because he was so upset about losing his Ironman streak and the way that it happened it was such a shock to him because he no one thought supplemental discipline was coming George Peros heard about this for like weeks after it happened there was a board of governors meeting and i can't remember who the board of governor was for the anaheim ducks at the time but apparently he like made peros explain himself during the meeting oh really and then confronted him afterwards so it was a big thing so he was like george you you made someone cry. And you know what, though? They did. He did.
Starting point is 00:19:46 He's like, I'm sorry. But the rest of the Board of Governors said that that was the moment where they knew that Peros was the right guy for the job because he was able to put aside everything and just be like, this has to be a suspendable hit if I'm going to do my job correctly. So happy trails to Andrew Cogliano. I'm sorry you never got to be the NHL's Ironman. And I guess in a weird way, congrats on George Parris because he still got the job.
Starting point is 00:20:12 I'm always tempted to say something mean about the Ironman streak because it was, you know, Kessel and who was the guy? Keith Yandel. Keith Yandel? Yeah. Doug Jarvis. Doug Jarvis earned it.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Doug Jarvis earned it. You know. Keith Yandel and Phil Kessel. Keith Yandel. Doug Jarvis. Doug Jarvis earned it. Doug Jarvis earned it. Keith Yandel and Phil Kessel. Keith Yandel and Kessel, it's not the most rugged. You would never see me like, you go into the corner with Phil Kessel, you're not getting that puck, right? I know. You go into the corner with Phil Kessel, and Phil Kessel might not be there anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:40 That's the thing with that Ironman streak. Because he's already got the puck. He's gone. Yeah. I don't know. I get what you're saying. There is a nobility to just going to work every day, no matter what.
Starting point is 00:20:52 But you're right. You think about the Iron Man streak, and you think about the guy that's being held together by tape, and he's got 11 different injuries, and he probably shouldn't be playing. Who's really more of an Iron Man? Chris Tanev or Phil Kessel? That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:07 The idea, the embodiment of being an Iron Man, not the cartoon or whatever it is, the comic book. I don't know about that stuff. I sound like Dollywall right now. Not the cartoon. It might be a cartoon. I don't know. Adog's just staring daggers into me right now.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Are you talking about Iron Giant? Oh, great movie. Anyway,'s just staring daggers into me right now. Are you talking about Iron Giant? Oh, great movie. Anyway, now we're getting off track. I mean, talk about this. You think about those guys as like the Warriors, right? And Tanev's a perfect example of it. I assume that someone will inevitably break Phil Kessel's record, although we are going towards a league now
Starting point is 00:21:44 where maintenance days are becoming more regular guys. Aren't playing through as many injuries as they used to for good reasons. Yeah. Right. Totally valid concerns. So I mean, like concussions.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Right. Those, you know, there's a lot of precautionary measures that are taken now that weren't taken in previous years. Okay. Just a reminder to get your ask us anything's into the Dunbar Lumber text line 650-650.
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Starting point is 00:22:29 but no pizza emoji. Todd says, I won Snoop Dogg tickets from the legends at 650 and am giving them to my son for his birthday. Can that be the entire gift or do I need to top it up? If you didn't pay for it, is it cheap not to also spend, even if the gift is already awesome?
Starting point is 00:22:49 Good question. Todd, no. Good question. Yeah, but you don't need to top it up. You don't. That's an asset that you earned. You earned it. This isn't a draw that we do for tickets on this show.
Starting point is 00:23:03 It is. You earned it. You won it. It's a competition. You earned that. You actually have to report that on this show. It is. He earned it. It's a competition. He won it. It's a competition. You earned that. You actually have to report that on your taxes. The fruits of his labor. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Now, I will say this though. The relationship dynamic comes into play. Father, son, okay. If you give free tickets to say like a significant other that you're seeing or you use it as a date. Just don't mention it. Just don't mention it. Just don't. Certainly don't mention like like i listen to a lot of sports talk
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Starting point is 00:25:13 Trust the expertise of Campbell & Pound. Visit them on the internet at campbell-pound.com today. By the way, that was a foul yesterday on Jacob Schaffelberg late in the game yesterday.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And they went to VAR for it, and I have no idea, no idea how after looking at it, they couldn't have called a foul. That was bizarre to me. The officiating yesterday was not good, by the way. You know what else wasn't good yesterday in that Canada-Argentina match? The turf. Did you hear the complaints about it? They were
Starting point is 00:25:39 complaining, well, turf was a problem in the England match, too. Yeah. So what they did at Mercedes mercedes-benz stadium remember we were asking just laid it over the the fake turf yeah two days ago two days ago yeah the argentinian manager the gaffer if you will was openly complaining afterwards he's like did they not realize that copa america was coming here because it's been booked for a while yeah like why would they lay the turf down 48 hours before so it had big seams in it you know what they did uh we had a monster truck bowl do you know what they did they painted over the seams you could still see the seams oh yeah yeah yeah that's they were like that's pretty bad though
Starting point is 00:26:13 they were like but it didn't fix the seams they're like well it did aesthetically like you can't see them they're like yes but we're still stepping in them yeah argentina was not pleased the canadian players didn't care they're like we play on turf half. Wouldn't that make it worse? It just disguised the scenes. Yeah, right. Ow, my ankle. I didn't see that because of the paint. The Canadian players are like, this is amazing turf. This is the best pitch I've ever played on.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Anyway, okay. I think we're bypassing our what we learned. I was going to do a JJ Redick one, but I'm sure someone has mentioned it in the Dunbar Lumber text message in Baskin. And if not, there's your chance to be on the radio. Let's fire up the dot matrix. Print out some humanoid submissions for what we learned, what we learned humanoids brought to you by get fire plan,
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Starting point is 00:27:24 What was your guy's ultimate decade of sports by decades 80s 90s etc what decade have you the have you had the absolute most enjoyment out of sports and if you have time throw music into that question too so for me, the music is 80s. I'm like Dolly Wall. It's kind of sad. But for sports, for me, I think it's a toss up between the 80s and then the 2010s. Do you call them the 10s? So the 80s, I think the 10s would get it. But here's why 80s was in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:28:01 That was my decade of learning about sports. That's the way everything was new. You're like, wow, look at that logo. I've never seen that logo. You're learning about the players. You're learning about the history of the game. It's like starting golf and getting, you know, like that, what do you call it?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Like the amount of improvement that you have when you start playing golf and you hit some good ones, you're like, whoa. Like I didn't know I could do that. And then it becomes a bit of a grind as you try and get a little bit better. That's what the 80s was. And you realize, wow, this is a legit passion of mine. I also think in a lot of ways the 80s hockey though the players weren't as talented there was more feeling in the game and that is
Starting point is 00:28:50 me being maybe a little bit nostalgic and a little bit like rick dollywell but back in the day i just felt like it meant a lot there was more there was more sports hate in the nhl back then so for me the answer without question is the 90s but i I even have a specific year. Oh, it's the 90s. Specific year. Okay. 1994. So here's what happened, young Halford, in 1994. And this is music too, by the way.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Canucks going to the Stanley Cup final against the New York Rangers. The World Cup comes to America, USA for the first time, right? And I'm watching that. It just became so much more tangible and real you know what else happened 94 was oj as well obviously cemented from the documentary that 30 for 30 was on the other day right um don't forget how profound that was from anyone that followed sports in that it transcended sport entertainment crime everything and it just became
Starting point is 00:29:44 this one drama that was real yeah it was a big media story too sort of the first reality cover things sort of the first reality tv and then the real court drama music and a lot of people i'm not sure are aware of this or not but three albums in 94 came out within like a three month span nasa's ilmatic biggie's ready to die and outcast put out uh southern playlist the music they came out like one after the other that's like three of like the greatest hip-hop albums of all time so 1994 in particular there you go but 2010s for me probably gets my sports nod overall just because of the experiences that we had, which started with hosting the Olympics in Vancouver. 2011, the Canucks go to the Stanley Cup final,
Starting point is 00:30:33 and although it didn't end well, it was quite a ride the whole time. The Lions win the Grey Cup at home that year as well, and then fast forward a couple of years, then it's all about the Seahawks. They go to back-to-back Super Bowls, including winning one of them. That was an incredible time
Starting point is 00:30:51 to be a sports fan in this area. And it was an incredible time for us because we were also having different experiences with jobs. You know, we took that job with NBC. So we got to go to Stanley Cup finals. We got to go to the draft. I got to go to the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:31:05 So I don't know. I think I'm probably giving the nod sports-wise to that 2010s. But no music from 2010. I don't even know. Do they still make it? A couple people rightly pointing out, by the way, with VAR from the Canada match yesterday. VAR, in that instance, can only be used to call a penalty or not.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So what may have happened is it may have been judged that the foul happened outside the box. Yeah, I think that's obviously what happened. Right. He missed a clear and obvious foul. Yes. For sure. It was a clear and obvious foul. That was kind of the point I was trying to make.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Schaffelberg was very clear. It should have been a free kick just outside the box. And I don't know how he missed it because it was very clear. Even in the moment, we're all yelling foul, foul, foul. Well, there were a couple of frustrating moments. It was almost like the referee was afraid to call the Argentinians out. Do you know what I mean? They were late to the pitch in the second half, but also I think the first half,
Starting point is 00:31:56 which is the thing, right? It's a bit of gamesmanship there. We'll let the Canadians hang out there. That was garbage. Yeah. Argentinian garbage. And then Argentina, well, it worked for them and they knew they were going to get away with
Starting point is 00:32:07 it. And there were also a couple of fouls which should have been yellows on Argentina. There was one in the second half where Canada had a break and the Argentinian fouled the Canadian. And you know, sometimes you're watching soccer and you're just like, that feels like a yellow.
Starting point is 00:32:22 That looks like a yellow. I've seen that called a yellow a hundred times before. And then a few minutes later, the exact same thing happened, but in reverse, and Canada got a yellow. Yeah, but I will say I didn't mind the Venezuelan referee for not going to the yellows early in the match. But it wasn't early. No, I know, but early.
Starting point is 00:32:43 It wasn't early. Early there was a lot of those fouls you're talking about where it looks and feels like a yellow and he kind of held off for both teams i was like okay he's letting him play because the thing is when you give them out early you put everyone in a compromised situation where they know they're one tackle away from potentially being sent off um that being said it it got out of hand in the second half yesterday here's an an unsigned what we learned. Someone wore a Pavel Bure Canucks jersey to the Copa America game, and I'm so proud of it. Yeah, I saw this on social media as well.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Pavel Bure in the black skate jersey just hanging out at the Copa game. Yeah, he was one of the, I don't know, 20 Canadian fans there. Didn't seem like many Canadian fans. Yeah, we were watching the anthems, and my kid was like, there's not many people singing the Canadian anthem. I'm like, that's because there's not many fans there. They were. Didn't seem like many Canadian fans. Yeah. We were watching the anthems and my kid was like, there's not many people singing the Canadian anthem. I'm like, that's because there's not many Canadians there. I love that there was a blessing before the game too.
Starting point is 00:33:31 So that was a, that was unusual. I was like, who's this guy and what's he going to talk about? Yeah. Oh, they had, this is a South American tournament,
Starting point is 00:33:40 right? They had dancers and they had a Colombian recording sensation who I was not familiar with at the time. And then they did some sort of, yeah, it was a blessing, but it wasn't by like a holy person. Yeah. It was a dude in a suit. I think it was maybe like a common bowl dignitary or something like that. Are you sure? Do you know that it wasn't a priest? I don't think so. Just some random guy in a suit?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Because it wasn't really like a blessing blessing. It wasn't a prayer. He just kind of said it. It's pretty prayer-y. But it was also an introduction. It was like a kickoff for the tournament. And then in the end, he threw in. No, it was right from the beginning when he started. Are you sure?
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yes. I don't think so. Yes, for sure. I'll have to double check on that. Windsor and Coquitlam, ask us anything. Are you more of a window seat or aisle seat guy when traveling by plane aisle aisle aisle you can stretch your leg yeah i'm a tall guy and i don't like asking to there's nothing worse than being on a window seat unless you're traveling with people you know but even if
Starting point is 00:34:39 we are traveling with people you know if they're asleep yeah you don't want to wake wake them i'd be like and you seem you seem weak you're like i'm sorry i have to pee have you ever yeah have you ever seen someone trying to just pee on them assert dominance yeah uh have you ever can i borrow your pringle scan are you done with those have you one guy pointed out we're never getting a pringle sponsorship by the way we're working on the cosmic crisp yeah we're working on a healthier alternative um have you ever seen someone try to climb over someone that's sleeping and trying not a Pringles sponsorship, by the way. We're working on the Cosmic Crisp. Yeah, we're working on a healthier alternative. Exactly. Have you ever seen someone try to climb over someone that's sleeping and trying not to wake them?
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. It never works. Don't do it. That's actually reminiscent of a rant that I've had in the past that I will kind of reiterate right now. Oh, here we go. If you're tall at a sporting event and someone's trying to get by you, stand up.
Starting point is 00:35:24 Stand up. Just stand up. Stand up. Just stand up. Don't do like the most awkward leg spread ever. Right. Get off your butt and stand up and make it easier for that person to get by. What if you stick your legs in the air and they just walk under your legs?
Starting point is 00:35:38 Don't do that. If you're tall enough. Bridge walk. We're not doing a bridge. Don't do that. We're not doing a bridge thing here. Just stand up. There's nothing worse than someone to be like, they like clearly like you're a big boy so i have like six
Starting point is 00:35:50 inches to get past you and i probably have to like brush up against you too just stand up i take it a step further i we got tickets for the whitecaps i make you follow them to the bathroom i follow to the bathroom are you sure you Can you get me a pop Sometimes actually That's a good thing to do You just let them Block their way out I make Follow the lead blocker
Starting point is 00:36:09 I make the kids Stand up Because the kids They can Oh kids are the worst But they try and Scrunch their legs In the sand
Starting point is 00:36:14 You stand up Don't make someone Either try and Scooch by you Scooch And kids will get Their dirty shoes All over you too
Starting point is 00:36:22 Just stand up Stand up Let them go through Make a nice Every stadium Has a different variance though, how much of a gap there is between the two. Some places you can get by with just turning your legs. Like a movie theater, there's enough space.
Starting point is 00:36:34 Just stand up. It's so awkward. They should just make the aisles a bit wider so people can walk by without forcing everyone to stand up. A-Dog is definitely a still sit down guy, aren't you? You don't stand up. It's weird. At sporting events I stand up, but at you? You don't stand up. He turns into a little ball. No, it's weird. At sporting events, I stand up, but at movie theaters, I don't.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Because there's enough room. People can get by. And I scrunch up into a little ball. I'm like, you can get by. I'm just a little boy. He's got a blanket. You have room. Where'd you get the blanket from?
Starting point is 00:36:56 No, but at sporting events, definitely stand up. And try and go for the high five at the same time. Make it awkward. Oh, yeah. You can give him a little pat on the shoulder. Yeah, exactly. Good job. The person coming by should apologize. He should be like, sorry, sorry. And you should be like, it's all good, man. It's give him a little pat on the shoulder. Yeah, exactly. Good job. You're using the bathroom. The person coming by should apologize.
Starting point is 00:37:06 They should be like, sorry, sorry. And you should be like, it's all good, man. It's all good. No problem. I say you better be. No problem. No problem. And you suck him in the face.
Starting point is 00:37:11 And then you punch him. You ask him to take your order. Can you give me some popcorn? Yeah. What I learned on sign that going into the Stanley Cup final, I was hoping for the series to go the distance to a game seven, not just for more hockey to watch, but also for Oilers fans, hearts to break on an overtime goal. to a game seven, not just for more hockey to watch, but also for Oilers fans.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Hearts to break on an overtime goal. But now I can't stand the tension and I need them to lose tonight. Yeah, it's one of those things for a lot of people where they are like, in theory, a game seven sounds great, but it's too risky. It's not. It's too risky. Let's end it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I know some of you are inherently un-gamblerish, not gamblers. Just use the phrase risk averse. There's one. No, you heard him. No, no, no. They're un-gamblerish. Un-gamblerish. I hear you.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Is that a good word? Is that not a good word? Nope. I like it, though. Un-gamblerish. Point being, you you gotta put your chips in here folks you have to
Starting point is 00:38:06 Alfred's gambler my neon claws yeah you have to come on live a little think about it think about
Starting point is 00:38:14 think about what if they get to game 7 and then they win it I would try you know what yeah then Alfred's gonna get lit up and it'll be awesome
Starting point is 00:38:21 I could care less that's true yeah I won't show up that day think about this when's the what's the last Stanley Cup finals game lit up and it'll be awesome. I could care less. Yeah, I won't show up that day. Think about this. What's the last Stanley Cup Finals game that you've been this interested in watching?
Starting point is 00:38:31 Bruins. Bruins game 7. But everyone in Canada was so obsessed with the Raptors at that point that that series actually got overshadowed quite a bit. It wasn't really that big of a deal. And then go back. But it was a terrific series. Oh, it was. It was unbelievable. And game seven.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Well, game six and seven were interesting. But what happened in that game seven? Well, everyone thought that the Bruins were going to win. And Boston got a knife right in the heart. Right? You know who was unbelievable in that game, the first period? No one remembers this. Binnington?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Binnington. Yeah. Yeah. I begrudgingly admit that, but that's fine. But so, folks, consider that. A few years ago, five years ago, Boston won that game six to force a game seven. Everyone's like, oh, no,
Starting point is 00:39:14 the Bruins are going to win another Stanley Cup. But then you got to watch them collapse at home, right? You got to throw your chips in here. You got to gamble. You got to not be risk averse. What's the opposite of risk averse? Risk taker. There you go. Risk accepting. No, no, no. What's the opposite
Starting point is 00:39:29 of averse? I don't know. Look it up. A chorus? A track? Risk seeking? I don't know. Ask us anything. This one's for you, Halford. Okay. Does Canada's performance last night give you hope they need to figure out second half fitness, it seems,
Starting point is 00:39:47 and stop watching Mikheyev how to score videos. Yeah, the finish is a definite problem. Not Swedish finish, like finish. I was going to say, that's what the Swedes say. Yeah. So a couple of things here, and you and I were texting back and forth about this last night.
Starting point is 00:40:03 The guys that carried the load for the canadians last night were cray po bombito cornelius shaffelberg was great when he came in i thought coney was great in the middle of the park you know who left a lot on the table for us the big boys buchanan david larin i thought davies was good, but he needs to be better. If they're going to be an impactful footballing nation, he can't just be Alfonso. The Davies, the guy with a 7.1 match rating at the end of it. He needs to be Alfonso Davies.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Like I hate using the term alpha, but he needs to be an alpha. Basically he makes, needs to make big plays. Yes. And, but Jonathan David for me is the guy that I was kind of like, man, you're supposed to...
Starting point is 00:40:47 At times, I have real trouble even imagining how he scores so many goals in France, in Ligue 1. He scores a lot. Yeah. And from all different ways. He scores penalties. He scores from open play. He's a good finisher.
Starting point is 00:41:01 And then for some reason or another, when he goes international, and I know he scored a lot of goals for Canada, but it's almost like volume against some sub, you know, talented competition. Four goals against, I don't know. Yeah, the Cayman Islands. Yeah. I mean, this is like last night,
Starting point is 00:41:17 he had a really good look on an open header in the second half, and he didn't even put it on target. And I'll say this. In a couple of matches, like the France match, Liam Miller hit the crossbar in a great shot. That's unlucky. Yesterday, Eustachio got stopped on that header. That's a good save.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Emi Martinez. And he hit the header well. Just he McCabe-ed a little bit. But the biggest difference that you will find at this level, where you want to be a team that can compete at the elite level or to win trophies and win titles or get results is you can't keep squandering chances and pat yourself on the back and be like,
Starting point is 00:41:52 well, we generated them. There has to be that decisive moment. That's what killed them against Belgium. Belgium had the decisive moment in Qatar at the World Cup. Canada couldn't do it. Has text in with an ask us anything. Rhymes with jazz. I have a needy hedge in my yard,
Starting point is 00:42:08 which I loathe and despise having to clip with a greater frequency than I get a haircut. So his next line, just so you know, I'm well aware that this could be a dolly wall. Okay. But he said, I dealt with the untrimmed bush just last night. Yeah, he got you. Okay. But he said, I dealt with the untrimmed bush just last night. Yeah, he got you.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah, but he didn't get me because I saw it. That a boy has. And then he said, do you have a yard chore you absolutely despise? Now, here's where I'm going to potentially Dollywall myself again. I hate edging. Oh, clipping that. Oh, no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Why do you have to say that? Edging the lawn. Yeah, no, we know what you mean. I like cutting the lawn with the lawnmower. I don't like taking out the trimmer or the weed whacker or whatever you want to trim. Like, that's hard work. And also sometimes, like, you know, like it's,
Starting point is 00:43:04 like you have to replace the string a lot because it'll get cut. I don't like doing that. But I would actually consider paying someone to just do that. I'll be like, no, I'll cut the lawn because I enjoy that. You don't do this one. You do the edging. You don't. So you're going to pay someone to edge.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Back again with the edging. Pay someone to edge no matter how long it takes. And sometimes the longer the better. It's true. Right? Quite often. Sometimes you can draw the experience out. Yeah, draw the experience out.
Starting point is 00:43:32 We're still talking about lawn. One that you don't do with as great frequency or regularity, but I hate, is power washing. Oh, that's the worst. When is the best time to do that? Never. Do you do it right after winter? Power seems so fun it's not i mean i've never done it well one is you gotta there's a lot of cleanup it's the loudest activity yeah it's obnoxious listen to
Starting point is 00:43:56 music no but for the some people have consideration for others in the neighborhood um it's just the like your arm basically just gets like frozen into a locked position right because you're just basically holding a handle and you're just back and forth
Starting point is 00:44:09 back and forth I suppose if you're really into the monotony and repetitiveness of something the satisfaction of like just like
Starting point is 00:44:14 clean something with a really powerful I'm not gonna go there but you can write your name you can draw funny things
Starting point is 00:44:20 yeah but oftentimes like you you're washing but then you almost gotta do a bunch of sweeping the next day're washing it but then you almost got to do a bunch of sweeping the next day when everything dries out because you've got a bunch of in terms of satisfaction at the end you because sometimes it could be such a dramatic difference especially
Starting point is 00:44:34 if you leave it for forever but the actual act is i hate it uh tommy from the valley ask us anything brough will you go golfing with me tomorrow morning to Tommy, I'd love to, but I can't. Hmm. We've got a long family day tomorrow. Big family day on a Saturday, eh? Yeah. Got a nice little day planned. Mm-hmm. Because I'm golfing today and I'm golfing Monday and Tuesday,
Starting point is 00:44:54 so the weekend's no golf. Might get to Bed Bath & Beyond. We might. Don't know if we'll have time. Only if we have time, though. If we have time. Didn't it close? We go out of business?
Starting point is 00:45:03 I think so, yeah. Yeah? Yeah. So where do you go now? How did Tom's video last longer than Bed Bath & Beyond? You know the problem they did? Very specific clientele They went beyond They should have just stuck with the beds and the baths
Starting point is 00:45:15 And then they were like, but we need to go beyond We've spread ourselves too thin here I'll read this one slowly because we're running out of time But this one came earlier Chat and Burnaby ask us anything Pizza is the most delivered food What food do you think is grossly underrepresented in delivery he said pierogies oh that is a good i get pierogies delivered really yeah there's a there's a place in town
Starting point is 00:45:34 what he has a pierogi guy i have a pierogi guy what there's a guy in town it's a husband and wife and they cook them in their they make they make them at their kitchen, and then they go around town delivering them, and we get frozen pierogies right through our door. God, that's amazing. It's amazing. Yeah. There's like a variety of flavors. So it's not DoorDash, though?
Starting point is 00:45:54 No, it's not like the app that you pull out, but it's, yeah, they come to your door. Because there's so many things that go into proper delivery food. It has to be a food that's like transferable delivery-wise. This is frozen pierogi. I got huevos rancheros for delivery. Like, they're not going to do that, right so i'm trying to think i don't like having burgers
Starting point is 00:46:08 delivered i will do it no they get yeah they sell them the bun they sell make it the bun gets mushy yeah it doesn't work but underrepresented can be hit or miss but underrepresented like it have to be something that needs more of uh like an emphasis it needs it needs to be you know the volume needs to be turned up. It needs to be more pronounced, and I don't know what it is. Maybe delivery tacos? No. I don't get tacos delivered often.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Taco Bell delivery. But, I mean, every time they are delivered, they're delicious, but I don't get them delivered often. We need to connect with these pierogi people and see if we can turn this into a business. Because I could imagine there would be a bunch of people, probably stoned, that are like, you know what I could go for right now is pierogi.
Starting point is 00:46:44 You need a cooked variety. Yeah, a cooked pierogi. You need like a cooked variety. Yeah, a cooked pierogi. I think it would transfer well, right? You could cook them. You could deliver them hot. Maybe rotisserie chicken. I like this. Underrepresented.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Guy just diving into rotisserie chicken. I like these texts coming in. First world problems. I hate edging my lawn at my Vancouver house. Yeah, I was about to say that. Brought with the humblebrag of the lawn. Oh, yeah, yeah. I totally own that one outright. I'm thinking in my head, man, I was about to say that. Brought with the humble brag of the lawn. Oh, yeah, I totally own that one outright.
Starting point is 00:47:06 I'm thinking in my head, man, I wish I had a lawn. That'd be great. Okay. All right. Maybe it wouldn't be great because then I'd have to take care of it. You do have to take care of it. Yeah, so I don't know if I want a lawn. You got to edge it up.
Starting point is 00:47:18 All right. We got to get out of here for today and the week. It's been a lot of fun. Thank you all for listening. Enjoy the sports tonight, including game six between the Oilers and the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:47:30 And, you know, I know everyone is worried about Edmonton winning a Stanley Cup, but hey, if they win tonight, game seven could be awesome and painful.
Starting point is 00:47:39 For now, though, we got to go. Signing off, I have been Mike Alford. He's been Jason Brough. He's been A-Dog and he's been Laddie. This has been the Alfred and Brough Show on Sportsnet
Starting point is 00:47:46 at 6.50. I hate edging. Oh, clipping that. Oh, no.

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