Halford & Brough in the Morning - Dhali With A Canucks UFA Update + What We Learned

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

In hour three, Mike & Jason chat with Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal regarding the latest news related to the Canucks UFA talks (3:00), the boys tell us what they learned (20:00), plus it's Ask Us Anything Friday (27:00)! This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Rick Dollywall joins us now on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. What up, Rick? How's it going, boys? Good, man. What's happening? Are you excited for 50 Cents tomorrow? I'm going to the game, but at 4 o'clock. I'm not a 50 Cents guy.

No? So I'm not going to go. I think Taylor's going. Taylor's a 50 Cents guy. He's a 50 Cents guy, but I'm not. I'll be there at game time, but I'm not going to check this out. He's not my cup of tea. He's just not there.

What's your cup of tea? 80s. 80s music. That's all I listen to. April Wine. You like April Wine, Rick? Oh, of course I do. Everything in the 80s goes.

That's why I listen to your station that's in your building. Kiss FM. What's it called? No, Jack. Jack FM. Yeah. Yeah, I listen to Jack. What's your favorite 80s band were you a big

duran guy oh i just heard hungry like a wolf yesterday uh i'm telling you duran duran was the cat's ass in the 80s they were good uh anything in the 80s i'll be here till midnight if you start asking me about bands in the 80s you You know what I mean? Yeah. Was the Cat's Ass a saying in the 80s? I thought it was the Cat's Badass. No, that was early 90s. When I started covering junior hockey up north, I heard that a lot. And I was like, where is this coming from? The players were using it.

And I was like, I started using it too. Rick, what does the Jalen Chatfield contract say, number one, about Jalen Chatfield, but more importantly, I think, to Canucks fans, the overall free agent market? I heard you two talking about it, and I thought it was a fascinating discussion, and I got some background for you. First of all, Chatfield signed in Carolina yesterday. He was on the Canucks radar. If he would have hit July 1st, the Canucks would have been interested in the right-shod defenseman who started his career right here in Vancouver in 2017, signing out of the OHL Windsor. Now, Chatfield signed for three years and $3 million.

He would have got a whole lot more in the market, but two things. He likes it in Carolina, and he loves playing for Rod Brindamore. Now, another reason players remain in Carolina is cost of living. It's much, much cheaper to live there. That is something the owner in Carolina reminds all agents during negotiation time that it is much cheaper to live in Carolina. Now, that is something that hurts Vancouver and Toronto. Nobody wants to pay $6,000, $7,000, $8,000 a month for rent,

and especially players with families. So talking to a few agents last night, I think the Canucks and Leafs are going to have to pay a little bit more for players in the $1 million to $3 million range come July 1st because Vancouver and Toronto are two of the most expensive cities in the world to live in. That's just the bottom line. Cost of living and taxes, it's not always about what team you're going to go to or who you're going to play with or who's

the coach or, oh, I want to play in LA or Florida. There is a ton of things to consider for UFA players and their agents, especially for those players who are in the $1 to $3 million range. These guys don't have 20-year careers. These guys' careers are short. They've got to think about where their money works. They've got to think about, like I'm telling you, it scares some people with the rent in Vancouver and Toronto. That's the bottom line.

And by the time your taxes take half of your salary, I mean, you know, and they're not long careers. These guys have short careers, so they're being smarter with a lot of the decisions they make. Jake Gensel, I assume if he signs in Vancouver, he will be able to afford the rent. But what are the chances that he does sign in Vancouver? Well, he won't be in the one to three million range, I'll tell you that much. Hey, look, lots of Gensel talk this week. I just threw it out there. If you're the

Canucks and you're willing to give Lindholm 7 million, just add 1 or 2 million and you'll get Gensel, who would give Pettersson the winger he so desperately needs. The need is more at wing than center for this team. The report that Gensel only wants to sign in the USA as a free agent on July 1st, that's just not true.

Gensel was very excited at the trade deadline about the possibility of ending up in Vancouver, and I'll tell you why. He's got a history with Rutherford, Alvin, and Tarkin. Why would he not be okay coming to Vancouver as a free agent and playing with Patterson? That would be enticing for a scoring winger like Gensel. There is a match to be made here, guys, if both sides can get it done.

Philip Hronik, the one thing that I've wondered about this is, do they need to figure out this Hronik situation before the draft, or at the very least before free agency on July 1st? Because if they don't have a resolution on that, then they need to think about alternatives, but the alternatives could be available on July 1st. If they don't have a resolution on that, then they need to think about alternatives, but the alternatives could be available on July 1st. Yeah, that's a great question.

There's so many dominoes here. I'll get into later why certain agents are being talked to and certain ones are not. Here's what I know on Heronic. I know there's a lot of trade talk right now around Heronic, but I really feel signing him is still priority number one. First pair right shot D, they don't grow on trees. If they trade Heronic, they're going to be right back where they were two years ago. And that's looking for a Quinn Hughes partner, which is not easy. There is a built-in system to assure that he will be signed and it's called arbitration,

but the Canucks won't like Arb because Heronic's got a good arbitration case that can get him a healthy raise. I'm imagining over $7 million. At least it won't be the $8 million, which he asked for. I did hear some positive talks a while back for Heronic, but then I heard it got quiet again. This is going to be a fascinating one, Brock, for me, because you understand the player is really good but you understand like if i were the canucks the offer i would have made to heronic was in the high sixes a lot of people i talked to in the hockey world feel that high sixes is a fair offer to heronic no i can't find anybody thinks this guy's worth eight million like i just can't find anybody i do believe high sixes or low sevens

get it done but clearly they've had all year they've known the numbers all year why are we in the 11th hour why are we facing the door that leads to arbitration because obviously clearly they're not close heronic probably doesn't want to go to arbitration either because that would result in uh what a one-year deal or a two-year deal? And then what happens if he has an off-season next season? Then he would be trying to negotiate on a lesser performance. Here's another one for you. How about just signing in Vancouver and playing with Quinn Hughes

for six, seven years? You'll come out of that contract and you'll still get another contract because if you get to play with Quinn Hughes, Quinn Hughes gets people paid. Look at Luke Shen. I mean, Luke Shen got a tremendous number in Nashville. You know, Chris Tann have left here, you know, and he got a good number in Calgary. Quinn Hughes gets people paid. Why not play?

If the Canucks trade him to a lesser team and he doesn't have a guy like Quinn Hughes, I mean, I just don't understand why his camp just doesn't say, let's meet in the middle and get this done, because if you get traded, that certainly might not be a team that he wants to go to. Yeah, exactly.

Joshua, Myers, Bluger, Zdorov, any updates on those pending UFAs? Okay, first of all, those four guys you just mentioned, I think they are still in the mix to be re-signed by the Canucks. Joshua, Myers, Bluger, and Zdorov. Let's go to Joshua first. He does want to return. The Canucks do want him back, but he's also two weeks away from his biggest NHL payday, and I'm not hearing much that's going on there. Canucks are very well aware of Joshua's number. They just can't get there right now. Can they get there if they clear up some cap space with an Elian McKay of trade?

That's possible. There is not going to be any shortage of interest in Joshua. If he hits July 1st, I'm hearing double-digit teams after this guy. You know what? Big guy like that with soft hands, kills penalties, defends teammates on the ice late in the game, defending a lead and also on the ice talking at him, trying to get the tying goal. He's going to have a lot of interest on July 1st.

Hey, I checked in on Zdorov this morning, still very quiet. The want from the player, the want from the agent is to resign in Vancouver. Dan Milstein from day one, when Zd the agent is to re-sign in Vancouver. Dan Milstein from day one, when Zdorov was acquired, wanted to re-sign here. The desire is still the same today. I'm not hearing any sense of urgency from the Canucks towards Zdorov, which kind of surprises me. But that one could come down simply to dollars and cents.

You're going to have to take the emotion out of that one because he won over so many fans in the playoffs with his play. But I think the Maple Leafs are looking for a lot of defensemen. They're looking for two, and I think Zdorov's going to get a good long look there if he hits the market. But I think Zdorov's going to be interesting to me. He's been very, very quiet on that front. Sam Lafferty, he's a pending UFA. Yep, there's been talks with Lafferty's agent. There's more expected next week,

I believe next week. The door is not closed 100% on his return. 13 goals, guys, but he saw his ice time decline to 11 minutes per game in the second half. The first half, he was up around 13 to 15. He is still one of the best four checkers on the team, provides energy and pace. $1.1 million. I'm not going to say he's gone yet, but lots of teams are going to have interest in that guy if he hits the market. I think maybe one foot is out the door, but I think there's more talks planned. But I think his camp was surprised he wasn't killing penalties. I think with his energy, his pace, I think they expected to kill penalties. We'll see what happens there, but I'm not closing the door 100%,

but it's going to be interesting to see what happens there. Guys, I want to get Myers and Bluger in. Both agents, for those guys, are willing to be patient with the Canucks, because I heard you talking about Myers this morning, Buff. Both agents are willing to be patient with the Canucks until they figure out some top six forwards and top six D. Gotcha. Sorry, top four D. I'm not worried about Myers re-signing.

Both sides want to sign. Both sides know the range it's going to take to get it done. I'll be very surprised if Myers doesn't re-sign. Lots of dialogue with Bluger as well. Not hearing anything negative there. I do want to say something. You asked if Lafferty leaves, if Lafferty leaves, the Canucks

would have interest in forward Brandon DeHame at the trade deadline. I'm told that, well, they had interest in DeHame at the trade deadline. I'm told that interest has not gone away. He would be a great fit in the fourth line, kills penalties, and that guy is tough. Yeah, what kind of player is he? I don't know too much about him.

I just know that he is tough as nails. He can kill penalties. He could be a great, if you look at the Canucks' fourth line, I mean, if Lafferty leaves, there's going to be an opening. And don't you guys think it's time for Pod Colson to become an everyday NHL player? Yeah, well, it's time. And we were talking about this, Rick, just in general.

I mean, most of their main penalty killers are unrestricted free agents. So they might have to completely remake that group. But you're also watching the Florida Panthers really make it tough on the Oilers to break the puck out of their own end. And that's because they've got probably the best four check in the league. And, you know, if they lose Lafferty, who you mentioned is one of their best four checkers

when he's on, and if they lose Dakota Joshua, you know, I'm a little bit concerned yep that they're gonna have to replace those guys and and listen I I I trust this management group knows this and and has their eye on on a few players but we all know that half of the NHL game is really can you break the puck out and or can you you, uh, disrupt the breakout with the four check? Like that's a lot of the NHL game. And so that's what the Canucks are going to have to deal with. They're going to have to, regardless of who it is, they're going to have to sign some

guys that kill penalties and get in on the four check. Yeah. Well, I'm also like, like, like Jason, you, okay. We can talk about the, you know, the penalty killers are UFAs too. The size, you know, if Zdorov and Joshua leave, that's a good chunk of the size. One of the greatest compliments the Canucks got in the playoffs is they were hard to play against. And, you know, Zdorov was a major reason why. You know, you love the goals that he scored against Nashville and Edmonton,

but the way he got under the Oilers' skin in the big hits, not only are you worried, but then again, if Zdorov leaves, I am pretty confident there's a guy

in the lower mainland that Canucks can get in Brendan Dillon who would be an absolute perfect fit to replace Zdorov in terms of size, kills penalties,

blocks shots. He doesn't bring everything that Zdorov brings, though. Brendan Dillon, I like him. He's a local guy. I liked him when he played for the Sharks. He was on that third pair that went to the Stanley Cup final against the Pittsburgh Penguins. He's a good player, but he's not Zdorov.

No, okay, I'm with you, but also by the same token, who else is on the free agent market that is him? Yeah, well, that's why I think Zdorov's going to get a lot of money if he goes to July 1st. Oh, for sure he is. Like, if Milstein doesn't cut the deal in Vancouver, that's another guy. Zdorov, when he hits July 1st, is going to have double-digit teams after him. And I think that, you know, but back to Dylan,

but he's not going to cost you six times six, though, Jason. No. You know, and are you willing to give six times six to a third-pair guy? Probably not. That was played in the third pair, actually, the entire playoffs. It's a really challenging offseason for the Canucks because they not only have to deal with all these issues and potential players walking away from them,

there's expectations now. There's always been these expectations. This will be the season that they go to the playoffs or whatever. But now the fan base has gotten used to winning and now expects the playoffs. And I imagine on the ownership side, on the business side, they probably enjoyed all those home playoff dates and all the money that delivered to the bottom line. So they don't want to take a step back.

No, they don't. And obviously, I don't want to rule any of these guys out. I always say one phone call can change everything, Jason. And we have two weeks to July 1st. And you do have a veteran guy like Jim Rutherford in the market who has been through this before. You don't think he's had a July 1st facing with 8-9 UFAs or 8-9 RFAs. He's had that before. They have a plan. I'm pretty confident that they're going to lose some guys.

If you thought they were going to get all these guys back, that just wasn't going to happen. They're going to get some of the guys back, and they're going to lose some of the guys, and then they'll go back on July 1st and try to get some of that stuff that they lost. They'll try and get it back on July 1st. I'm more excited than worried because there is a trust level that I have with this management group, uh, that they do have a plan and they're able to pull off a plan. But, um, when do you think we're going to start hearing some news like is it as soon as the cup final is over we might start hearing some news or could we hear some in the next couple of days a deal can well i guess the cup final could be over in the next couple of days

like i told you bluger and myers have been told to be patient and they've been told to be patient jason for a reason because we're working on other stuff. They're clearly working on trades. They're clearly working on trying to get rid of McCabe. There's no question that McCabe is out there and they're trying to free up that cap space. So some of these guys you can't sign because they don't have the cap space. But if you free it up and if you do get rid of McCabe, there's some extra money to go and get Dakota Joshua done. Like Dakota Joshua to me is, you know, people say to me all the time,

why can't the Canucks just give him what he wants? Well, he's asking for a big jump, and he's probably asking for a good term. You can't give every single, it's like you guys. If you guys go in every year asking for a big raise, your boss is going to say hit the road. You can't give everyone a big raise. We ask for it once. Not every year, once. And the way our industry road. You can't give everyone a big raise. We ask for it once. Not every year, once.

The way our industry is going, no one's getting a freaking raise. But listen, you can't just give everybody what they want. You just can't. You can't, or you'll go bankrupt. Any business knows that. But all these guys, and I'll say it again, all these free agents help the Canucks have their best year in 13 years. They're all asking for raises.

Nobody's sitting there, other than Myers, nobody's sitting there saying, okay, we'll take what we had last year. It's just not the way the world works. And that's the problem with these selfish professional athletes. Right, Rick? You said it, not me. And selfish sports guys. Rick, thanks for doing this today, bud.

Enjoy the Lions game tomorrow. Yeah, Lions, 4 o'clock starts. I don't know about anything else. Yeah, enjoy all the Euro Cup action, too. I'm sure you'll be dialed in. I'm in on that. I'm in that. You got me going, Alfred. One thing about you, when you talk soccer in the mornings, it gets me going. It gets the soccer vibes going. That's the only thing I want

to accomplish, Rick, is to get you going. Thanks, buddy. Have a good weekend. Okay. I love every minute of it. Just the most violent slam of that phone. That's a legit ding on that phone. He knows what he's doing. He tries to slam it harder each time he does it. No, but that's... What phone is that? It's a rotary phone. It's one of the ones that makes the sparks.

I like to think that back in the 80s, when Rick was killing it and listening to Duran Duran, he would be working multiple rotary landline phones. And he'd have the, remember when you used to put a headband around it so you could have the phone attached to your head and then you could have your hands free. That's Rick with like,

I could see him doing that working multiple phones at once. He was like a bond trader back in the 1980s. His alarm clock was like hungry like a wolf for the entire 80s. We're going to do. It was a good song. We're going to do what we learned and ask us anything here, but I feel like we're remiss. We haven't mentioned the U.S. Open at all during this show.

Why don't we do a quick what we learned from the Open? Because round two play is underway, and actually Rory's underway. He went into yesterday tied atop the leaderboard with Patrick Cantlay, one of my favorites. He's actually never led at day one of a major before. He's never done well in majors. Cantlay? Cantlay, one of my favorites. He's actually never led at day one of a major before. He's never done well in majors. Cantlay? Cantlay.

Is he one of those guys like good? Can't play in majors, Cantlay. Nice one. Is he one of those guys that's like a good tour player but never got it done in the big majors? He got red hot a couple of years ago and could not miss a putt. He's a good player, but he hasn't been great at majors. So the big story, obviously, is Rory.

So far, yeah. He's four under, one over today. So Cantlay hasn't teed off. He tees off in, I don't know, like an hour and a half. Taylor Pendrith is playing well. He's having a good round. He's two under today, one under overall. That's good for a tie for 10th.

And that's where Corey Connors is. He finished one under yesterday. Go Canadians. He tees off in about an hour and a half as well. Penderth is maybe a little bit later. No, no, he's, sorry. You got the late update on Penderth. Penderth is now three under on the round.

So now he's two-under for the tournament. Nice. And he's tied with Bryson DeChambeau at 2-under. This is a pretty good leaderboard, actually. Xander Shoffley is in there. He's 3-under today. Tyrell Hatton swearing his way up the leaderboard. Tony Finau there.

Where he be now? Tony Finau. It is honestly going to be an awesome watching sports on TV weekend. Even though the NBA finals and the Stanley Cup finals haven't been particularly competitive and both could be sweeps, it's still fun to watch the title, right? And the Celtics could win the title tonight and the Panthers could win the Stanley Cup. Tomorrow, we got a big BC Lions game tomorrow featuring 50 cents. And yes, we are saying that ironically because Rick Dollywell says it that way.

We realize that it's 50 cent. We're cool. But yeah, we're not cool. And we got a ton of soccer. The Euros start today with Germany and Scotland at noon. So we got a lot more to get to on the Halford & Brough show on Sportsnet 650.

Not a lot. It's just the final half hour of the final hour of the final week, final day, final show of the week. We're giving away a $100 gift card to AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. It's going to go to the best

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It's Nick from Pit Meadows. Congrats to Nick. He had the pizza emoji in his text. Ask us anything. It was the one that spurred on the question about an hour ago. Mike and Jason, if you had to adopt one of the dogs, who would it be and why? So Nick gave us content.

That was a good one. So we give him Pizza. By the way, okay, pivoting off the adoption papers thing. You didn't pick someone. I picked a dog. Did you pick a dog as well? I picked Laddie. Yes.

Why did you pick Laddie? Because you picked a dog. That's it? Oh, it's like a pity pick? No, give a good reason to pick Laddie if you did. You have to order me from a special catalog. I said that I gave a specific reason where I didn't want to pick Laddie because he's got behavioral issues. And frankly, I think he's a little snappy sometimes.

And I wanted a dog that would just curl up with me on the couch and watch TV. Well, I have a loving, caring side. Even if he's a little gassy. I like a dog with attitude. A little bark, a little snarl. The original dog from hell. A little poochie. You mean Cerberus?

You mean Cerberus. Yes. No, I mean Laddie, of course. Oh, by the way, I should have mentioned this earlier. I got the one dog addicted to Cosmic Crisp apples. So Laddie now, he eats them all the time. Okay. I brought one in for A-Dog this morning because A-Dog was like,

I want a Cosmic Crisp apple too. So I was like, okay, cosmic crisp apple too so i was like okay fine i brought it in yep um the dogs are like siblings yeah they're like young kids they're like well well that dog got something what do i get that dog got one i this dog get nothing so i brought him a cosmic crisp apple and in true dog form uh i took it i brought it i brought a bag by the way you see the bag i offered i offered Jason one. He was like, eh, no. He looked down on it, like everything else. I was like, okay, Andy, here's an apple.

I gave him an apple out of the bag, and he just started eating it. Right away, like a dog. Didn't consider washing it. Didn't consider doing anything other than eating the apple. Got it in about six seconds. And? It was delicious. It was very crispy.

Did it do? And I guess marginally cosmic. Did it in about six seconds. And? It was delicious. It was very crispy. Did it do? And I guess marginally cosmic. Did it do what the bag said it? What does the bag say, Halford? Hold on. You got to go get it. The Cosmic Crisp Apple Bag. Read the advertising on these Cosmic Crisp.

So the Cosmic Crisp apples. The people, they spent a lot on marketing. I read about it. They did. So the top of the bag says, amazing flavor and infinite possibilities. Are we- Infinite possibilities. Are we promising too much from the humble apple at this point?

What are the possibilities that exist? You never know what's going to happen after you buy the Cosmic Crisp Apple. My dreams are coming true. There's only so many things that can happen when you're eating it. I love apples and I love the Cosmic Crisp, but infinite possibilities. It feels like you might be over promising and then under delivering.

Well, if you throw it at someone, your life could change. Would you like to try one right now? No, I don't want to try one right now. I'm going to put them back. Think of all the ways that a Cosmic Crisp apple could change your life. You could choke on it. You could die. You could die. Probably not the advertising campaign they

want, but yeah. If you threw it at the right person but it has a worm in it. Yeah, exactly. If you threw it at the right person, you could end up in jail. Yeah, if you roll it down a hill into oncoming traffic, that'd be bad. Also, I'm not saying this is in any way related, but I have noticed that... I don't think that... I don't think it would be like a boulder going down. Well, it's cosmic, though, so you never know.

I have noticed that... Infinite possibilities. Just throwing this out there, because the Cosmic Chris people have picked up on what we're throwing down they've liked a bunch of our tweets yeah we're still waiting for that apple sponsorship you know has a radio show ever had an apple sponsorship by the way we are watching by apples yeah you may have heard of them there's no reason they've been around for a while get one for your teacher today there's no reason that this show shouldn't have an official everything how about all the advertising for gold? Yeah.

It's just like, have you ever thought of buying gold? Yeah. Every time I see that, we're still here. Remember gold? And you know what? Every time I see that commercial. Is that a response to crypto? Yeah.

It's like the gold people are like, oh man, we're getting our lunch fed to us by crypto. You see the commercials. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. No, the commercials are clearly based as an anti-crypto. It's like, it's stable. Gold is always fungible. You can hold it in your hand. You can hold it in your hand. You don't forget the password to gold. That's right. Infinite possibilities. Unless it's in your safe.

Unless it's in your vault combo. What do you want to buy? Do you want to buy gold or do you want to buy this picture of a funny ape? You can't buy a tooth made out of crypto. It's true. Okay, let's do some actual what we learned. We've wasted a lot of time talking about that. Ask us anything.

What's more impressive, Barkov shutting down Kucherov, Pasternak, Zibanejad, and now McDavid-Drysaddle, or Bobrovsky's incredible run? Bob is minus 125 to win the consmite, but Barkov at plus 500 could be a sneaky pick i remember betting once on the consummate trophy winner and it might have been well it was one of the blackhawks wins okay might have been 2010 actually because i was convinced that duncan keith should win

the consummate trophy it was 2015, I think. Would it be Tampa Bay? No, but he did win that year, didn't he? Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, but I lost. Oh, okay. It was the one where Jonathan Taves won it. Was that 2010? That was 2010 against Phoenix.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was convinced that Keith should win it. And so I was like, no, this is not. I was looking at the numbers. I'm like, this is obvious. This is obvious. Keith. And then I lost the bet.

The texter might be right. Barkov, he's their leading scorer. 21 points in 20 games. But you got to think, who are the voters going to do? I know. Bobrovsky is such an obvious choice. But if you look at it, Barkov ticks a lot of boxes. That one save that Bobrovsky made off McLeod might have just got him the

consmite trophy. I have time for that, though. Give it to the goalie. That's why I wouldn't have time for that though. Give it to the goalie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I wouldn't want you as a dog. Give it to the goalie. That's why I like him. He's got bite.

If I- A little service over there. If I were to give it to someone, I might give it to Barkov. Just because he's not a goalie. Barkov's a- Put it this way. Barkov's a super worthy- Yeah.

Super worthy winner if he gets it. By the way, that'll be another Selkie Trophy winner with a Stanley Cup. So now I think if you were to look at all the Selkie Trophy winners in the salary cap era, all but Kessler and I think Couturier in Philadelphia will have won Stanley Cups now that Barkov has it. And if you go back before the salary cap era,

it's hard to find a guy that won the Selkie trophy without also winning a Stanley Cup. There's probably more of a connection between having a Selkie trophy winner and winning the cup than there is with the Hart trophy and winning the Stanley Cup. Maybe Michael Pekka won the Selke pre-salary cap, and he didn't win a Stanley Cup.

That's over 20 years ago. Yeah. I only really count everything 2006 and on. I mean, it makes sense. If you've got these dynamic two-way centers that are both good offensively and good defensively, obviously you're going to have a pretty good chance. You're going to have a good team.

You know? Danger Dave with an Ask Us Anything. You're going to have a good team, you know? Danger Dave, with an Ask Us Anything. With all these Canucks contracts going on, Danger Dave wants to know, is management allowed to talk to players directly to lay out the team's vision or talk about future team plans? Or can they only talk to their agents?

Danger Dave, what you are describing is called tampering. We are very much for it. No, but if he's your player. If it's your player, you can talk to them and lay out the reason. But other players. If they're on their way out, I would be hesitant to lay out your entire plan. You don't want to give the agents a scoop. But you also want to tamper because tampering is a key to success.

Now, it can come back to bite you as the Atlanta Falcons. Did you see that found out yesterday? The Atlanta Falcons were dinged by the NFL for violating the league's anti-tampering policy when they were trying to sign a bunch of free agents in the offseason, including Kirk Cousins. Imagine having to tamper to get Kirk Cousins in town. So what was the penalty for that? They got docked a 2025 fifth round pick. And listen to this. Two hundred and fifty,000 for quote unquote logistical violations. Right.

And the GM, Terry Fontenot got fined 50,000 personally. Were there more details or was it just that? Like, do we know what they actually did? You're just a read the headline guy. I know. Well, I don't, I don't know. Well, there's got to be different degrees of tampering. Right.

So. Like sign this contract. I'm not allowed to yet sign it anyway. Some of them were like. That's aggressive. Organizing travel plans for the player to come in and out before the contract had been signed. Yeah. So they were obviously doing a pretty deep dive investigation.

But they did not find evidence that there was contact with the player or the reps prior to the pre-agents. They just booked him a flight. Yeah, right? So that's how serious I guess they think. I can see that though, right?

Here's the thing. We're going to book him a flight. I asked this question. You can always cancel it. The Canucks are low on draft capital, right? Yeah. So they can't really afford

to get dinged picks. But if it was a fifth round pick to secure the services of a guy that they really wanted, like a Gensel, do you consider that the cost of doing business? Just throwing it out there. Just throwing it out there. Well, I don't think it's that cut and dry. Just throwing it out there. Okay. Pistol Pete, ask us anything.

When do you officially become a grumpy old man? Recently, I remember Brough going off about recycling and how frustrating it was when it wasn't picked up. I thought that was a classic old man yells at cloud take. But since then, I've done some growing up. I got a place and some kids and now have begun the eternal struggle with the recycling. It never ends.

Does this mean I'm a grumpy old man now? Also, apologies, bruff. I understand your point now. I think it goes beyond just the recycling and getting frustrated when it doesn't get picked up. It's when it's your responsibility in the house and nobody else helps. Sure.

There's just stuff strewn about, just left. And in fact, sometimes people within the house not to accuse anyone who may be listening right now specifically don't help with the recycling like they let it overflow or they just throw the boxes into the garage without you know cutting them up or stomping them down and then they just assume that I'll take care of all that. Yeah. That's going to make a guy grumpy. You know what?

I feel like this is very specific. I really like to help out with the recycling. So if you adopted me, you would have had some help. But he chose A-Dog instead. We had A-Dog, you know. Enjoy your recycling mishaps and having to do it all yourself. Well, listen, if we have a nice rainy night and there's no sports on and i just want to watch a movie with my dog on the couch

that's going to be an awesome his kind of movies yeah well no he doesn't get to choose it he's the dog that's true he's on the phone right now what's going on you want to hear he's talking to the winner oh on the subject of uh old man stuff we had two i thought there was the same guy but it's not it's two separate texts talking about the identifiers and differentiators for young people's socks versus old people's socks apparently ankle socks are out ankle socks are dad socks really yeah i wear those with shorts you are old you are oh yeah i thought those were fashionable the fashionable ones are uh a longer dare i say tube sock sort of scrunched down so you have like like what i was made fun of for doing when i was younger is now the fashionable thing what's not cool is cool and what was cool is no longer cool huh i like the scrunched down mike the urologist from brockville

then wants to know do you guys wear ankle socks or crew socks? You know what I started wearing? Anklets? Grip socks. You falling down a lot? Whilst doing athletics in my... Why do you need grip socks? That's what your shoes are for. Yes, it is. Thank you. Are you wearing shoes that are like 10 sizes too big for you or something?

Yeah, I got a deal on some size 14. You'll grow into it. I'll grow into it, yeah. No, but why do you need grip socks? Because the doctor suggested it Yeah, I got a deal on some size 14s. You'll grow into it. I'll grow into it, yeah. How much rain in the clown shoes look. No, but why do you need grip socks? Because the doctor suggested it post-surgery. He's like, you're going to want to minimize the amount of movement that you have with your ankle. What are they, grip?

So the grip in your shoe or the more gripping, gripping for around the house? It reduces, no, in a shoe. It reduces internal movement in the shoe. So you know how it's like. Oh, okay, I see that. Oh, it's not like a strong, sticky grip, like you can pick things up with your feet kind of sock? No, Andy. It's not that.

I thought it was like a multi-purpose sock. I'm not using my feet to pick things up. I love all these texts coming in. I spent effing 15 minutes going through recycling yesterday. Cardboard boxes are the bane of my existence I will tell you that the older you get and the longer that you're subjected to children the

accumulation of water bottles becomes a staggering amount like I have like a landfill amount of water like yeah I'm talking about reusable water bottles it's just they're endless they never stop you never really throw them out, right? You just kind of compile them.

And you always think that you should get another one for some reason or another. It's like, oh, I like that design. Water bottles on sale. I should buy that. Oh, this is a great water bottle. And then there's trendy ones that appear on different social media platforms, right?

The Stanley mug, the cup, right? That was a big one. And then it's an offshoot. It becomes a thing where you're just, your drawers and cupboards are filled with endless amounts of water bottles. Somebody texted in grip socks, like what infants wear when they're learning to walk.

That's what I thought. Kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're good though. And they also prevent blisters, which is nice as well. Interesting. Yeah. Ken in New Westminster is concerned about the 50 Cent concert. Ask us anything. Not being familiar with the music of 50 Cent I checked out an Essentials playlist of his And noticed that most of his songs have very graphic

Explicit lyrics Will he be doing sanitized versions Of his songs when he performs In front of the family oriented crowd At the BC Lions opening game I think so It'd be funny if he said he was going to and then he didn't There was an old clip of Rage Against the Machine opening game. I think so. It'd be fun if he said he was going to and then he didn't. It's just a total...

There was an old clip of Rage Against the Machine. They appeared on BBC... Yeah, it's a classic BBC clip. Yeah. And one of their songs or most of their songs have like very graphic,

not even like subtle swearing. Like it's the chorus and it's repeated on chant. Like, F you, I won't do it. You tell me. Yeah, they said that for about five minutes straight. So they're like, please don't play that song and then right away, Zach DeLaRocco's like, and it's repeated on chant. Like, F you, I won't do what you tell me. Yeah, they said that for about five minutes straight. So they're like, please don't play that song.

And then right away, Zach Delarocco was like, fire it up. Let's go. But I would suggest that he will be doing the radio clean edits. Would he not? I mean, it seems pretty obvious. There's going to be a bunch of youths in attendance. You can't be using swear words. There's a lot of techs having support.

Oh, man, Halford, you're speaking my language. My kids have like 14 water bottles. I am doing a purge of the cupboards. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you, you or the texter? No, no, no. I'm going to do it.

I have the same problem at all. The water bottle. The cardboard, or not the cardboard. The cupboards. The cupboards. I'm also concerned about the cardboard and the recycling. The cupboards are full of these water bottles that just get collected in some way because when we were kids we would go to elementary school with the good old-fashioned juice box right yeah drink it and

then you'd throw it away and it would be fine after that you don't know what happened to it definitely didn't end up in a landfill somewhere and you're like all right i'm done with my drink for the day now these kids i mean i'm sure that uh because my kid's graduating from elementary school this year he's in grade seven i'm sure on the last day he's gonna come home with 9 000 water bottles that he has left throughout his elementary school career and i'm gonna have to deal with all these yeah by throwing them into a landfill langley ian that's what I feel bad about. I feel bad about all the waste. Yeah.

You know? Langley Ian texts in, I have like seven green Gatorade water bottles in my garage as we speak. How did my son get so many? He is 16. We have at least 10. You just keep getting new ones. Yeah.

The squeeze Gatorade bottles. Yeah. That's all I use. See, the idea is that you will reuse them. You use a squeeze water bottle at home? Yeah. Awesome. What?

What? What? What? What? What? Are you serious? I'm parched use a squeeze water bottle at home? Yeah. Awesome. What? What? Are you serious? I'm parched. A squeeze water bottle at home. It's pretty great.

Yeah, it's awesome. If it's hot, do you like squeeze water down your back or something? It goes on the balcony. Yeah. It's fun. Randomly around the house.

He cleans up the visor with it. Yeah. Ask us anything from 5 a.m., Frank. Now that the NHL season is all but over, what do the four of you do to scratch your sports itch until the fall and the NFL returns?

Frank, this is one of the better, if not best, sports summers that I can remember in a long time. Because you've got the Euro on right now, you've got Copa on, and then starting at the end of July, the Olympics. And the Olympics are actually interesting this summer because of the basketball. So July 26th. I'm sorry I offended anyone who's a big Olympics fan, but I'm on the record as saying, like, I'm not a big summer Olympics guy. Here come the pole vault texts.

Yeah. Well, the hammer throw. I'm excited to see us dominate in hammer throw this year. Yeah. But, you know, historically, hammer throw doesn't get a lot of air time i just can't get into them like i i i i try but it's a lot of the kind of schmaltzy tv storytelling that i'm just like i do want to see the reason why we don't watch this i do kind of want to see how break dancing is going to go over okay i'm curious about that i'm curious about that but that's more of just a

pure curiosity. Do you think we'll all be experts on breakdancing? Yes. Within like a day? We're going to have a daily breakdancing guest. He did not hit his pop nor his lock. I don't, I mean. Is that a thing? Pop and unlock in his um. Oh, the pop and unlock.

It's an actual breakdancing move. Oh, okay. You pop, you lock. Will they moonwalk? I hope so. They better. It's like a term for breakdancing. It's not actual breakdancing. Oh, okay. You pop, you lock. Will they moonwalk? I hope so. They better. It's automatic win. It's not automatic win. The Olympics don't work like that.

Ooh, he pulled it off. Den, den, den, den, den. Give him the gold. Give him the gold. He moonwalks backwards onto the podium to get it done. What is the best? Okay, besides basketball. Yeah.

What is the best summer Olympic event? What do you actually get excited for? What do you get invested for? Anything with running is pretty good. 100 meter dash. 100 meter dash. It doesn't take up a lot of time. It's usually under 10 seconds these days.

It's fast. It gets over pretty quick. And it's anything that you get to decide who's the fastest person on the planet. That's pretty cool. I'm with you, though. A lot of the summer, I don't find. You know what actually is all right is the short sprinting swims. I don't care for the long ones where they have to do all of the different strokes.

I don't even know what that is. Do they still got the shot put? Is that still a thing? They still got the shot put, Andy. Awesome. They throw a big heavy boulder or rock. Heck yeah. Yep.

I can't stand watching swimming. I respect swimming. It's hard. I don't mind the sprint swimming. The long distance ones where they're going back and forth, it's kind of boring. But the sprint swimming is even like, could you go a little faster? What about diving? I know they're in the water.

Do you like to dive? That's what makes it so... No. No? Why? McDavid's in it this year. I'm just kidding. You remember...

Good one. You remember Freed's calling Olympic swimming? makes it so no no why remember uh david's in it this year i'm just kidding you remember you remember good one you remember frege calling uh olympic swimman yeah he had a good finish didn't he yeah yeah oh wait no it was the other guy that one he got too fast is he gonna do it again this year i don't think so craig and campbell river with an ask us anything how do you boys like england's chance of advancing from their side of the bracket at least relatively far i worry the recent tournament success may lead to overlooking a lesser opponent. So let's assume, for the sake of speeding this along for the people that don't care about soccer, that England wins its group.

The issue with that is that they are on the same side of the bracket as the group of death, Group B, which has Italy, Croatia, and Spain. So you're on a collision course where, yeah, you get the runner-up, but it's also the runner-up to the group of death. So that could be a little bit more. Including two teams that have dealt them very painful blows, Italy and Croatia.

If they're facing Italy or Croatia that early in the tournament, in the knockout stage. But once you get to the knockout stage in the Euros, I mean, there's a very good chance that you're going to play a good team. Sure. Right? And you could play for penalties. Yeah.

Can I read a couple funny answers before we go? From Bort. Ask us anything. I've never heard anyone ask this before. Who has nicer hands, Halford or Brough? God, that's weird. What a weird question. Like nicer?

Yeah, which one of you guys? Better looking hands? Yeah. Or like better on the ice. Like hand model style? Yeah, well, that's what I thought. It was like better hands. Oh, maybe.

Wait a minute. Read it again. The text says, who has nicer hands? He didn't say better. He said nicer. Nicer. Better hands would mean like silky mitts. Yeah, no, no.

Nicer hands. Nicer hands. Nicer looking hands. Neither of these hands have done much hard labor. Both of us have pretty nice hands. Alfred types pretty hard. Not a lot of calluses on these bad boys, if you know what I'm saying. I got a couple of paper cuts from the recycling.

Yeah. That's about it. That's it. And I feel really, I don't feel great discussing this, but it was a good one to go. I appreciate your effort. Can you do another one now? Yeah. Oh, this is actually a comment.

I had a dream that I was listening to you guys on the radio and Halford said the F word on live radio, and then it was disconnected, and a notice came out saying the radio station had shut down for the day. I've done that before. Not that the station's shut down forever. Just that it's been shut down for one day. Sorry, Riccio.

You're done for the day. Imagine the notice coming on, like the do-do-do, like the SkyTrain notice, like this radio station has shut down for the day. You may be listening to too much sports talk radio when you start dreaming about sports talk radio. I have sworn on the air before. Oh, yeah. I think we all have. No, I did it intentionally.

What? It wasn't even an accident. I got frustrated with Brough, and I just swore. Did the CRTC know about this? It was really early in the morning. Yeah. We thought. I was like, oh, I'm probably going to get in trouble for that,

but I got off scot-free. Remember when I played the F-bomb clip of... I thought my radio career had ended on the old station? What movie was it again? I don't know. The baseball movie. Oh, Major League? Major League, there you go. You played an F-bomb on the air, and you were terrified about getting fired. I'm like, Andy,

don't even worry about it. I think it's going to be fine. And you were correct. Alright, well, sorry for wasting your time for the last half hour. You know what? It's Friday, though. Yeah, yeah. That's how we roll. It's the same thing. This is what the people want. Enjoy the weekend. Have a great time watching

whatever you choose to watch. There is a lot on. We could see the NBA season end tonight. We could see the NHL season end tomorrow. Go Lions, beat the Stamps, and do it in front of that big crowd. I hope 50 Cent is fun. I hope England wins. I hope Rory McIlroy wins. That's it for us for today. Thank you all for listening. Thank you all for contributing. Congrats to our winner. Enjoy your pizza at AJ's. Signing

off, I have been Mike Alford. He's been Jason Brough. He's been A-Dog and he's been Laddie. This has been the Alfred and Brough Show on Sportsnet. 650.