Halford & Brough in the Morning - Goat Debates, Speed Walking + WWL

Episode Date: August 1, 2024

In hour three, Josh & Jason along with Producer Ben and Greg what they've learned recently in the world of sports. The guys debate about some of the greatest athletes of all time and learn more about speed walking as well! This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Kintec, that's what you're waiting for. Okay, so we had a few people text in about the Oilers-Canucks rivalry. I like the text that came in from Liam from Coquitlam. He says, I've been an Oilers fan for over 20 years. I tend to cut hockey conversations off with my buddies if their Canucks brain shows too much. What do you think the definition of a Canucks brain would be? Would it be highly paranoid?

Oh, 100%. Well, I feel like when you're talking to fans of other teams, though, then it's like unwaveringly optimistic to an annoying point is there any team that you are like 100 protective of like you are in the tribe and you are protecting the tribe even if it costs you your credibility i got got players that I'll be protective of. Yeah, I got teams. Okay. Because the Vikings, I'm like, okay, you know what?

They're bad. And that's okay. Right. Okay. So you won't, like, I mean, as a, I like to think as a professional that I am, as much as a Canucks fan as I am, I'm not going to protect them at all costs. Yeah. Right.

And I don't think I really do that with anyone. What are the players that you protect at all costs? For me, it's Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson. I just think he is the undeniable best wide receiver in the NFL. And if someone's like, oh, Tyreek Hill is better. I'm like, you're wrong and dumb and I hate you. Right. Okay. Even if they make, have you ever acknowledged in your brain like that might be a good point but then your mouth says something different yes no okay yeah okay what about you so

I'll defend like Michael Jordan's better than LeBron James in the GOAT debate and I will say that Tiger Woods is the greatest golfer of all time and not Jack Nicklaus despite the extra three majors right and that is like I will go to the mattresses on those debates. You will bring out cheap shots if you have to? Exactly. Okay. It will get personal. Right.

It will get personal. What is the one you're the least sure about? I'm not unsure about anything. Did you have to get him? There is no hesitation. They're all perfectly there. I had to think. I was him? There is no hesitation. It landed a roll perfectly there. I had to think. I was like, there is no hesitation.

What is the best debate? The best debate is for sure LeBron and Jordan. Because I can see, you know, the body structure of LeBron being 6'9", 260. I get it. Yeah. He's fantastic all around. I really think there's no argument between Tiger and Nicholas, just because of the sheer dominance and physical power.

What about the field? The field tougher for Tiger? Which makes it even more of an argument. Exactly. I mean, I tend to agree with you. And he's won throughout different eras. But we also didn't watch Jack. Yeah.

We didn't watch him on a day-to-day basis. True. You know? But if you put 2,000 Tiger against anybody in the history of mankind, it's just not going to be close. But what if Jack had all the technology that Tiger had too? There's never been somebody that goes into a major who is minus odds. Yeah. And that's happened multiple times with Tiger.

That is an absurd situation that there's 150 players and one guy's minus odds in a tournament. What is your defining characteristic or attribute of Jordan that puts him above LeBron? It's the Iguodala thing where if the death beam was pointed at Earth and you had one game to win, who would you want to save the human race? And it's that guy.

But why is that? Because of his killer instinct and mentality to win it all. It's the mentality. It's the dog. You trust that guy. He's a killer. He's going to get the job done. Yeah.

Are you a Kobe over LeBron guy too? Absolutely. Yeah. Because of the mentality. Because of the attitude. Really? The attitude. Yeah. I just trust you to get it done so do you just like if if lebron had been and tiger has that too outwardly yeah tiger has that if lebron had been more outwardly um confident like kobe and like michael jordan would you be like okay this guy might be the goat i don't think

it's necessarily just the confidence, but I look back and I just am never able to quite get over the fact that when Kobe was in his prime in LA, LeBron was unable to get to the finals with those Cleveland teams that he should have

when they got 67 wins in a season and we were deprived of that marquee finals matchup. LeBron got eight points in a finals game, averaged two in the fourth quarter. Like these are things I'm just not able to fully get over despite the great, and I'm not

denying his greatness. He's unbelievable. I'm just saying these are things that we haven't seen with a guy like Kobe or Jordan. And that- Is there anything about LeBron's personality, especially early on in his career, when he seemed a little uncomfortable in his own skin. Not one, not two, not three.

I'm like, dude, stop trying. Stop counting. Yeah, yeah. It's the decision. It was an insecurity thing. I don't know. I loved all that. Why?

You were a kid. You love the fanfare. It's made for TV. Yeah, I want the fanfare i didn't care but did you feel that he was uncomfortable in that moment sure but i also like justifiably uncomfortable when you're making a big decision like that but i guess do you think that's why it was though or do you think he was uncomfortable in that moment because he was sitting there going like i don't know if i should have done this i i think it was uncomfortable because he was leaving cleveland and he knew how much he meant to

cleveland in that moment personally that's how i interpreted it and he took the easy way out and he took the easy way out yeah went with a top five player of all time of the current time at that point and d wade and his delivery just seems so scripted taking my talents to south beach you know like he had practiced the I'm taking my talents to South Beach in the mirror at least five times. I love that. Don't you ever get the feeling that Jordan would have never done anything like that? No. He beat the

guys in his era. Like the Reggie Miller, Karl Malone, John Stockton, Ewing. He wanted the fight. Those guys didn't get a ring and everybody else in LeBron's era ate. Everyone's gotten a ring this year. Who's the if you're going to talk about a killer in hockey, who's a killer in hockey? The guy that, I don't want to say the MJ of hockey

because I don't think there really is one, but the guy where you're just like. Mark Stone? Matthew Kachuk's got some dog in him. That's the one that came to mind for me. I feel like. It's a playoff guy. He kind of disappeared. You know who I hate to say it?

Duncan Keith. That's a good one. When he was at his height with the Chicago Blackhawks, that guy seemed like he could not be bothered by anything. Patrick Kane. Playing like 40 minutes a game. He wasn't flashy, though. He was like stoic, right?

But he also had a nasty side to him, as Daniel Sedin found out. Oh, he found out. Right? People always hate it because I always talk about Duncan Keith like he is just like this incredible athlete, but I think he deserved to I just, but you know, Canucks fans are like, I don't want to hear that

and I get it, but like he was an unbelievable defenseman and I remember when Quinn Hughes was drafted and he he was asked like who do you look up to or whatever and he said duncan keith and i was like yes yeah because he said it's not just because he's a small guy that played good defense it was the intensity that he brought to every shift and every moment um you know, I think he deserved to have two consummate trophies.

He got one and that was when he was playing, like, I think the Blackhawks had like three defensemen that they were playing regularly. And he played like 30 minutes a night. And that's if it didn't go to overtime. And Ryan Kessler had that famous quote about, you know, nobody can withstand that amount of punishment. Well, he did, you know, and Quinn Hughes might want to look back

on how Duncan Keith did that because that was the game plan, or at least one of the game plans when you're going against the Chicago Blackhawks, hit Duncan Keith as much as you can. And he got hit a lot and he still survived. And that's why I was kind of like, and also, I don't know if you guys remember when he played for Canada at the Olympics. Yeah. Like that blue line back there was so, so good.

And I realize that Canada still got some really good defensemen with Cale McCarr, but when they had that group that had, you know, Duncan Keith, Drew Dowdy, young Drew Dowdy, Shea Weber. Chris Pronger, Scott Niedermeyer. No one's beaten this team. Dan Boyle. No one's beaten. Even Dan Boyle was like, oh yeah, Dan Boyle,

he's a pretty good player too. And Brent Seabrook makes the team because it's Duncan Keith's partner. But he was a legitimately good player. Let's do some what we learned here. I learned that Rick Talkett will be an assistant coach for Canada at the Four Nations tourney. The Four Nations face-off, as you all know,

featuring teams from Canada, Finland, Sweden, and the United States is going to be played February 12th to the 20th. John Cooper is the head coach of the team and Talkett joins Bruce Cassidy and Pete DeBoer on John Cooper's staff. And that's a real feather in the cap for Rick Talk tockett as a coach um he played for canada at the highest level he was on the 1987 canada cup team josh one day i'll tell you about the 1987 i would just go hamilton baby new guns and roses album has he ever coached with canada before i know he's a player i actually don't know if he has i don't

know if he has i think he might have done a world champion. But I think he might, possibly. But when you win coach of the year, you get to be on that coaching staff. I know a lot of people are kind of lukewarm about this tournament, but I think it's going to be, I think it's going to be an awesome warmup

for the Olympics. And we're going to have a lot of fun putting together the Canadian team and putting together the American team and, you know, the Swedes and the Finns as well. I'll be curious to see what role Elias Pedersen has on that Swedish team. And, you know, it'll be weird also cheering

against Quinn Hughes and possibly JT Miller, I suppose. Yeah. And Thatcher Demko possibly. Right, right. And Brock Besser might be on that team too. I would say he's maybe like 50-50. But yeah, it's good for Rick Tockett.

And I do wonder, in terms of looking forward to this tournament, I think the biggest thing is going to be the buy-in level. And if the players buy in, then I think it can be really good. But if it's during the All-Star break and they look at it, they don't take it. I think they will take it. I think they're going to buy in

and they better buy in because they are a part of the group that kind of like organizes it all. And they've been the ones, the NHLPA, and I realize a lot of their frustration has been that they haven't been able to go to the Olympics

and the Olympics is a whole different deal. But they've been wanting to do best on best. Right. And they're going to get a cut of this. The PA will get a cut of the revenues and it might not be significant, but they're going to get a cut of it. It is up to them to bring the intensity, the kind of intensity that is so severely lacking from all-star games, right? Like we can't have, and I just find it hard to believe that they won't go a hundred percent. Knowing first of all, that they're going to be playing for spots in the Olympics.

You know, Hockey Canada is going to be watching this very closely. And if you're Connor McDavid, how would you not get excited to play on a team with Sidney Crosby? So excited. I think it's going to be awesome. You're going to have great atmospheres in Montreal and Boston.

I think it's going to be a success. It might not reach to the level of the Olympics or that 1987 Canada Cup, but I think it's going to be pretty good regardless. And I'm a lot more excited for this than the last version of the World Cup, which I thought was purely exhibition.

That was a cash grab. That meant nothing to me. If you thought it was cool to see the Young Guns team, I'm not going to begrudge you for that. I guess it was neat. But that was my review of the World Cup. It was neat, I suppose.

There was potential there. And if they had kept doing it and maybe removed Team Europe and Team North America, then I could see it having success. And the thing that annoys me about the NHL putting on these international things is that they do it one time and then they're like, let's forget about it for a decade. Yeah. There needs to be consistency. Yeah. There's been no consistency. That's the problem. You need to have that. Okay. Every four years, we're going to have a world cup in hockey and every four years, they're going to go to the Olympics and it'll be alternatives like in soccer. You know, I know with England,

every two years, every four four years there's a Euro, every four years there's a World Cup. So every second summer, I know that I'm going to be disappointed by England. Looking forward to it. We already know it's going to be different. It's important to have consistency in your life. Mark of the Office texts in, is there any concern that the four nations will take Canucks focus away from Talkit? Nah.

I don't think he's going to put that much stock in it. When you're coaching a team like that, I feel like it's like, hey guys, go out there and score some goals and play decent defense because you all know how to do this. It's like Steve Kerr with the USA team right now. He's like, let's all get along. Yeah, let's all manage

some personalities and go out there and score some buckets. I'm going to mook out that. And I'm going to turn it over to Basketball Ben because I know he's got a What We Learned that he is pretty upset about. Okay, I have two then. Okay. The first one I'm dying about is what we learned is

Basketball Ben lost a long drive competition last night by one yard. By one. Are you normally the winner of a long drive competition last night. Okay. By one yard. By one are you normally the winner of the long drive competition or are you just upset that you lost by one yard? One time. Okay. How long ago was that? Two years ago. Okay. But I really wanted to win. Okay. And like one yard. How far did you actually

hit it? Did you have the or did you know? It was 337. Oh. Is this what kind of a hole is it downhill uphill it's down down the hill down the hill since it's been wet there's no roll basically okay so you're gonna launch it and just hope it can fly so that's pretty good i was happy with it yeah i'm pretty happy if i hit like 240 but i was like is just your way of bragging that you hit the ball. This backfired 3,337 yards. I was actually upset. I texted you guys right away.

I know, I know. It was not fun. Is there like a prize? There's a prize, but it's just a pride thing. Yeah. And it's like, come on. Okay, I have a question for you because this is something that I've been trying to work out

with my golf swing. When you swing the club and you've done your takeaway and you're starting your downswing, do you feel like you're pushing or pulling? Oh, my goodness. Are you pulling the club through or are you pushing it through? I'm pulling it. You're pulling it, right?

I'm pulling it through. Yeah. That's the way it's supposed to be. Okay. Right? I've never been asked that. My swing feels fine because I feel like I'm pulling it through. That's good. You're pulling it. I'm pulling it through. Yeah. That's the way it's supposed to be. Okay. Right. I've never been asked that. My swing feels fine because I feel like. That's good.

You're pulling it through. Yeah. And in baseball too, right? I feel like you're pushing it. You're pushing it probably out to the right. Well, you know the comparison that they make. Have you ever seen anyone try and put their boat in the water and they've got it on a trailer? Right.

Right. And it's a trailer. Right. Right. It's hard to push it. Sometimes you can get all out of whack when you're pushing the boat. For sure. But when you pull it. Makes it easy. It's fine.

Easy peasy. Right. Easy peasy. And that's the way, but a lot of people are pushing. You can see that like every weekend hacker. And that's something that I've just been working on in my game, especially in my short game,

like to pull the club through it. Because then you feel like you have a little more control. Anyway, this is probably boring 99% of the people Are you one of those guys in the airport or texters listening in that like practices their swing while waiting for a flight? I can't be in that character.

Not necessarily when I'm waiting for my flight, but I think about it a lot. And I heard a funny story about Tiger Woods once when he was driving. I don't know if he was driving with his caddy or something. In Toronto. I know this story.

Was it? When he was just like, pull over, pull over. Side of the road. Side of the road because he wanted to feel something that he'd been thinking about in his swing. On the 401 highway in Toronto.

Was it really? Canadian Open. Sick. And with Stevie Williams, like pull over, bring it out to his swing. On the 401 highway in Toronto. Was it really? Canadian Open. Sick. And with Stevie Williams, like pull over, bring it out of six iron. And it was the, it was the year where he hit a six iron out of the bunker that many considered to be the greatest shot he's ever hit.

Right. And he was screaming at Stevie Williams to pull over the car just so he could feel something in his swing. So he was just thinking about it and he was like, wait a minute, this makes, does that happen to you? Do you think about your swing a lot?

Like all the time. What is the one thing you're trying to figure out right now? I'm doing the drill where you get to the top and you stop for a moment. Right. And then you come through. So your body and hands and the club faces

all timed up at the same. You know what I worry about when I'm doing that drill that I'm going to turn into Charles Barkley. I thought about that too. Like you get to the top and you're like, what if it happens that I can't pull the trigger? Like you get to the top and you're like, what if it happens that I can't pull the trigger?

So I get to the top of him like, don't turn into Charles Barkley. And then I rushed the downswing. Like golf will mess with your brain. All right. Give us a moocow on that. And I'm sorry you didn't win the long drive competition. I'm sorry you can only drive at 337 yards. Sorry. Only top 37 yards. 337 yards, man. Sorry.

Only top 37 yards. 337 yards. That's wild. You have a what we learned. Yeah, so what we learned, I don't know if you guys saw this, but this Turkish shooter has been going around from the Olympics. The very casual one? Yeah, Yusuf Dikic, I believe is his name.

So the way these shooting events work is most of the time you have like this little like telescope on your eye and you're kind of aiming down the the range and you have earmuffs all of that everything he rolls up and he's got nothing he's just standing there when he's got his regular glass he raw dogged it he raw dog yeah he broad dogged the shot and he won silver and he was like i'm just a shooter man and it doesn't matter i'm gonna i'm gonna get a medal so yusuf dickich my favorite turkish shooter at the olympics what kind of pistols do they use i didn't even know they had air pistols i think yeah right nothing fancy does it make a big sound or not it must because they have the big hearing What kind of pistols do they use? I didn't even know they had. Air pistols, I think. Yeah.

Right. Nothing fancy. Does it make a big sound or not? It must because they have the big hearing protection on. Right. It must make some kind of sound, at least when you're close to it. Is it just pistols or are there long guns or rifles? I believe it's just, well, they have like the. Shotguns?

Well, there's archery. There's archery and then. Well, that's, okay. Well, it's still in the shooting category. Right, but it's different then. I think they do have some sort of long gun. Okay. I don't know what it is.

But I've seen it where they like hold it with two hands. Winter, they have the long guns. It might be a rifle. Winter, the skiing. Oh, I'm sure it's a rifle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah, that guy is interesting to watch.

It's the hand in the pocket that does it for me. Do most of those guys, are most of the shooters military experience or are they just hobbyists not hobbyists but like they do it because they enjoy it i would assume most of them do it because they enjoy it but also like you would find out i i wonder if there's a transferable skill and like one day they they figure out that their aim in something is really good and they're like how do i implement this right it ends up being olympic shooting right i don't know what that transferable

skill would come from but i don't think a lot of them and maybe there are a few of them but i don't know i would watch it more if they were uh shooting like beer cans off of something i think so too or if like an obstacle or if a pumpkin exploded or if if it was sniper style from a kilometer away. They got to curve it. Yeah, they got to take the window into account and that sort of thing. That would be more interesting. Might be a little touchy around, considering some of the things that have happened. But I'd watch it.

Yeah. It would get more eyes right now, that's for sure. All right. Before we get into trouble, we gonna go to break we've got a few more what we learned from uh the hosts and the producers but uh get your what we learns into the dumb bar lumber text line at 650 650 you are for some reason listening to the alfred and brough show on sportsnet 650 now for my favorite part of the show what'd i say talk to the audience oh god this is always dead it's what we learn time

it's what we learn time it's what we learn time on the show 831 half the broth no mike alford it's josh elliott wolf here with you along with jason brough coming to you live from the kintec studio you can can text in 650-650, the Dunbar Lumber text line. Halford & Brough is brought to you by the Dilawri family of Honda dealers. Experience the Dilawri difference today.

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from the hosts and the producers. Laddie, you've got a what we learned. Yeah, I do have a what we learned. So what we learned, Lululemon has had to recall or stop selling one of their items, the Breeze Through Leggings, after they received a slew of comments from customers that they say it was

giving them a, quote, long butt. And I don't know if you guys have this affliction, but if you're not blessed with something in your backside, then sometimes you need a little help from the clothing that you choose, and I guess these Breeze Through Leggings weren't doing it, and

they were giving the illusion of a long butt. There's no photo, so I don't know what exactly a long butt looks like, but I can picture it. You know when you see it. Yeah, you know it when you see it. And yeah, apparently it's been a bad month or two for Lululemon. They've had a few recalls.

Lululemon makes all the Canadian Olympic women, right? Yes, they do. I think that looks pretty sharp. Do they have long butts? Have you checked? We are a long butted squad yeah that'll show them okay um as someone who isn't blessed then i yeah i could definitely feel the pain of these customers that purchased the pants so what kind of butt would

produce a long butt like i don't really understand so i understand I guess so. I understand. I think it's like. Like I have no butt. I'm like Hank Hill. Yeah. Like I'm the lawnmower. Basically. I need like support. That is generally where. I cannot. Does anyone else have trouble sitting on park benches?

It's a nightmare for me. So explain this to me. Josh, you seem to know what's going on. Generally, I think it's the people that lack a butt that end up having a long butt. The long butt. Right. Because it kind of just. You don't really have a top shelf of understand okay yeah so then it just kind of merges with your back right why

don't they make do they make pants that are like kind of like a push-up bra for your buttocks i need that i think some leggings are i believe um did i just did i just invent something like that go crazy i assume not like. Like butt pads? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well. Okay, well, thanks for bringing that up. I trademarked that. That was unexpected, lad. Well, it came up, and it's an affliction that I feel deep in my heart.

Your long-butted body. I need help from the pants. All right. Give us a mookow on that, please. That was fun. That was fun. Thank you. Basketball Ben, any more bragging to do about how far you hit the golf ball?

No. He does not have a long butt. I shot a 63 yesterday. No. Yeah, Basketball Ben is the rare plus handicap. Yeah, it's frightening. I can't wait to play with you. I'm excited.

Are we going to have a match? Like, are you going to give me? Of course. Okay. I've seen that handicap on the light board. I'm not giving you too many strokes. Yeah, but that one, like, so I started keeping my handicap this year, and then I had some very unlikely low rounds to start.

So my handicap is not accurate. It's way too low for what it should be. Now he's trying to be like, now I need more strokes. This is when it starts. I'm an old man. I can't even hit the ball. Okay, do your what we learned. Got a long butt.

Some guys that are a lot better at golf than all of us are playing in Paris, as we mentioned earlier. And there's two kind of mini what we learneds here. First, Xander Shoffley can play on any golf course in any country around the world and be fantastic. He comes out first round six under in second place. It's unbelievable to watch this guy play. And the second thing that I've kind of learned this season is just how much the Japanese love their golfers.

I never really fully understood it, but Hideki Matsuyama is in the lead at eight under after one round. And it seems that every tournament, I don't know if you've noticed this, the Japanese reporters will ask the main stars, Rory, Tiger, so what do you think of Hideki? What do you think of his game? They want to know their thoughts on Matsuyama's game. Well, the media in Japan is crazy. But golf crazy, especially. Well, baseball too.

Baseball too, yeah. But it's unbelievable. This guy is a god over there, and he's a fantastic golfer, obviously. But I just kind of learned this year how much it means to them. I did want to ask you this. Who is your golfer of the year? Now that Xander has won two majors, but we all know the year that Scotty Scheffler has had. If he gets a gold medal.

Xander? Yeah. I think it might be him. Does the Tour Championship mean anything? It probably has to mean. Xander? Yeah. I think it might be him. Does the tour championship mean anything? It probably has to mean something, right? Sure. It would be incredible if someone is able to wrestle away player of the year from Scotty Scheffler. The way he was playing, everyone's saying like, this is the greatest year that anyone's had since Prime Tiger.

If someone gets two majors and a gold medal though, I don't know how you don't give it to that person. What if Xander wins the gold, but then Scotty wins the Tour Championship? I just value majors and big wins over, you know, winning the Charles Schwab Championship. Right. And the Tour Championship's different because you get a head start when you're in the lead.

Yeah. So you're already starting with the lead. That's true. Because of the new format. Right. So that's kind of like, congrats, you were supposed to win this. Okay. All right.

I kind of agree with you. Nice. All right. Kind of, though. I thought you were going to play completely devil's advocate there. No, I've never been known to do that. Yeah, never. All right.

Give us a mookow on that. We got a question, too. What are you guys' handicaps? Ben, what are you at right now? Plus four. Plus four. Plus four. You're at a... I'm not saying because mine's not accurate.

You're a two. He's a minus two. I'm not a two. He's a minus two. No, I'm up to... In my app, I'm a four, but I'm probably legitimately an eight or even like... I'm not giving you double strokes. I'm just saying.

You should. I should get nine strokes. Nine. Nine feels like a fair number. We're just saying. You should. I should get nine strokes. Nine. Nine feels like a fair number. We're going by the whiteboard. Yeah, but that's in between. But the whiteboard is not accurate. That's assuming he's a five if you give him nine.

We'll see. Yeah, and I'm not a five. I'm not a five. I was a 19 handicap at one point this year, and then I broke my wrist, so I'm up to a 20. Damn softball league strikes again. Yeah, it got me again. My what we learned, my other one, the NFL top 100 list, and the lists are dumb, but

this list is especially dumb, and I hate it. Okay. Because going back to my Justin Jefferson defense, he was... Oh, God. Here we go. He was 18th. CeeDee Lamb was 13th and tyreek hill has yet to be mentioned because i think the top 10 comes out tomorrow so they are saying so is this top 100

players in the nfl right now as voted on and here's how it works it's voted on by the nfl players the voting happens during the season so last last season. Typically from Thanksgiving through New Year's, the players pick their top 20, and then it's all kind of put together. Okay, so Mahomes is going to be number one. Mahomes is going to be number one. Right. Who do you think will be number two? Josh Allen?

Josh Allen was on the list already. He was 12. Really? Yeah. There was a lot of surprising players that, like Joe Burrowrow i think was 39 and 39 for joe burrow just because he showed up with bad hair yeah they were like dude i was like you know we're knocking you down a bit you were down 20 spots uh tua and jordan love were above him jordan love was at 34 which feels weirdly way too high for uh jordan love i't. Tua made some money. Yeah.

Yeah, he did. It's crazy those decisions that teams have to make. Now, if there's any Dolphins fans listening, I'm not saying that Tua's bad, but the decisions that the teams have to make when they either commit or they don't commit to the quarterbacks is huge because you can't really, is there any way that you can just kind of like halfway commit to a quarterback?

No. It doesn't really seem like it, right? Especially when you have one that's like kind of good, like on the better end of average. Like Tua. Yeah, exactly. And you're like, well, we can't really replace him easily. Yeah.

So I guess here's a lot of money and we'll hope it works out. Right. But it never works out because you just be in the worst situation you're kind of like in the back of your mind you know that and i'm not again i'm not saying this about to but certain quarterbacks that have been paid like daniel jones got a huge contract yeah and you know they were like i don't know about this but i also don't want to go through the whole rigmarole of, you know, drafting and developing a guy that may also not work out.

So hopefully it'll work out, and it didn't. So Tua and Jordan, I feel like, are both in that same boat. In terms of who will get number two on the list, I feel like Lamar Jackson might be a good bet. Micah Parsons might be up there too, Nick Bosa, someone like that. I would say Lamar Jackson though. And we got a text on Lamar, but I just, I don't know. Bad list. Jefferson too low. Joe Burrow too low. Those are my main qualms with it. Okay. Where can people find this list to be

offended by it? Look up NFL top 100. It'll come up. Is it nfl.com? Yeah. Okay. So, and it comes up right, like right now they have 100 through 11 and then i believe the top 10 are announced tomorrow at some point right okay i like when they do these lists with tears yeah no tears on there crying no just like everything seems to be tears you know you've got like tears of players like the elite category the elite. It's like Canucks ticket packages, right? What were they again? Marquee plus. Regular, regular plus. Marquee.

Premium, premium plus, the crackers. And then marquee and marquee plus. And there's only one marquee plus game, and that's the Leafs game. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, they don't have marquee plus tiers on this list. It's just a list. Do you think people are going to be less or more hesitant to commit to the

Conor Bedard game this year? Probably. Learn their lesson. Imagine if someone out there, and I bet there is someone out there, had tickets to the Conor Bedard game and the Messi game and spent like 100% full value

for them. And got nothing. It's going to be great. That sucks. Alright, give us a moo cow there. Full value for them. Got nothing. It's going to be great. Got nothing. That sucks. All right. Give us a moo cow there. Let's print off some submissions and go into the Dunbar Lumber text line. Justin, always a good texter.

What we learned. Jim Rutherford has asked the NHL to penalize the Canucks six points to start the season. Rutherford believes that this adversity will push the Canucks to an 82 and 0 regular season record. The track record is there. Yeah. The example. That'd be funny if Canada wins the gold and Bev Priestman is named coach of the Olympics

for her motivational. You really spurred them on, Bev. Your motivational lying. By the way, I get more and more angry every time I see that clip of her explaining why she decided to take herself out of that one game against New Zealand. And she's like, I just felt it was important from an accountability and sportsmanship and leadership perspective. It is really grinding my gears. It's like we brought this up a few times. She's trying to sell herself as a hero.

It's like she went all in on the lie. Yeah. You know, she wasn't even like, she tried to get ahead of it. And to think that those emails that emerge would never come up, it takes a heck of a lot of arrogance at the

time to make that statement. Are you thinking that no one's going to look into it? I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Uh, what we learned, uh, there's an Italian silver medalist gymnast, uh, getting lots of

attention for her endorsement deal with Parmesan cheese. What would your dream endorsement be? So, like cheese is maybe up there. Right. In terms of, so there's like two ways. You're allergic to cheese. So I'm slightly allergic to cheese.

Actually, let me throw this out there. That's rough. Let me throw this out there. That's like basketball Ben saying, I'd love to have a Peanuts endorsement. Planters. Planters. I can't even be near them, but it'd be nice.

I'll rush over you. When you eat cheese, let's just say a block of cheese, charcuterie, right? Yeah. Does your face get chills or tingles nope because i'm not allergic to cheese so why would you continue eating so i recently found you're like homer like i think i'm blind so gosh put that sandwich down the other this is probably like three weeks ago ben and i were i, I was producing Canuck Central. Ben was in there.

And I had like just meat, crackers, and cheese. And I was like, oh man, I love cheese. But you know like the chills you get in your face? Like it's a weird feeling. And I was like, what do you mean? And then I looked it up and every answer was like, you're allergic to cheese, you dummy. Does it affect your stomach at all? No, no, it's just my face.

I get like a weird kind of like tingle i love the cheese it's the searing pain i can't deal with it does anyone else get this i know his assumption was that everyone gets it it's like dude i thought man i got cheese face again i called it uh the cheese chills did you think it was like when you drank a slurpee too quickly or something like that? Brain freeze? That hurts more. I don't know how to explain it. Brain freezes, by the way, I know we were talking a lot about age. Those get harder when you get older. I've noticed.

I love Slurpees, man. I probably had two this summer. I take the kids for Slurpees sometimes. You say I love Slurpees and then he's like, I had two this summer. Well, yeah, but as you get older. Really splurged. Yeah. Well, I do love Slurpees and then he's like, I had two this summer. Well, yeah, but as you get older. Really splurged. Yeah. Well, I do love Slurpees.

Now I want one. I might get one. I might get one today. I've been trying to cut down my sugar a little bit. What's the go-to flavor? Coke. Are you mixing? Straight Coke.

You mix it? Straight Coke. Raw dog in the Coke? Just Coke. Always. Always. I live right now. Kids are always mixing them up and I'm like, now you've just got like a bunch of nonsense in there, right?

Yeah. The most important thing is the texture of the Slurpee. And you also have to know how to drink the Slurpee. You have to constantly mix the Slurpee. Yeah. So it doesn't get an ice block in it. Yeah. You don't want an ice block in it.

That's rookie. When I see someone that's got an ice block in their Slurpee, I'm like, you ever had a Slurpee before? You got to keep mixing it. So there's a 7-Eleven on my block. It's a dangerous game. Right. But they recently changed their Slurpee machines.

Oh. So I don't know if they changed how it's made or whatever, but it comes out and it freezes. You get less ice blocks. Oh, okay. That's good. It makes better. Now, sometimes it's too watery though, too liquidy.

At first, it can be a little like when it first comes out, I'm like, oh, this isn't as frozen as I would like it to be. But I think the overall experience, it's a better overall experience. This is very important stuff we're doing today. Yeah, we're getting to the bottom of it. It's August. There's a good text here. There's an entire subreddit on Reddit about having mild food allergies Better overall experience. This is very important stuff we're doing today. Yeah, we're getting to the bottom of it. Very important stuff. There's a good text here.

There's an entire subreddit on Reddit about having mild food allergies and not realizing it until years later. A big one apparently is mango. People thinking it's spicy and it burns, but they're actually just allergic to it. Oh, really? Yeah. Why is this mango just burning? You know what I like about mango? There's a real pop to it.

Yeah. No, you're just allergic. What are you talking about? It's a real pop to it. Yeah. No, you're just allergic. It really burns on the way down. Jordan and the Ridge, what we learned, the Victoria Shamrocks can go 18-0 tonight versus the Salmon Bellies in the WLA. Very rare to have an undefeated season. WLA playoffs start next week.

It'll be Maple Ridge versus Langley and New West versus Victoria. Get out and support local lacrosse. Jordan in the Ridge is constantly sending in what we learned about lacrosse, and I like to support things that Jordan in the Ridge supports. Well, if you haven't been to Queens Park to see a salmon belly game during the summer, you got to go. It's like a bucket list thing.

It's awesome. Does it get hot in there? Very hot. Very hot. I've played it in a lot of lacrosse rinks over the years. Do they still have the wooden floor? I believe they do. It's been a lot of lacrosse rinks over the years. That's just so hot. Do they still have the wooden floor? I believe they do.

It's been a few years since I've been to Queens Park, but I believe the iconic floor is still there. I only go out there to coach hockey, so I haven't been out there in the summer. I don't think I've ever been to a Salmon Belly's. Really? To be perfectly honest with you. Wow.

You got to go. You got to go. It's rowdy. Lacrosse was never a big thing when I grew up in my neighborhood. Was it big for you? Cause you're a Chilliwack guy, right? It was pretty big. Did you play?

All the, I didn't play cause I didn't move out there until I was 12. And then I was just behind the curve. I was a Mustang for a while. Yeah. I was a Mustang. There in Chilliwack, all the hockey players just play lacrosse in the summer.

In the summer. Right. So it's a pretty big thing out there. Yeah. What we learned, race walking just looks hilarious aesthetically. Yeah, it does, right? They kind of make it look cooler.

Do you think even the race walkers are like, we look ridiculous? I think so. It looks like me on the golf course and I have to go to the bathroom. I was watching it yesterday and I was talking to my wife and I said it multiple times. I don't get it. I understand it's hard, and it's an event that they put on for years, but I just don't understand it.

How did it start? Yeah, like... How did it start? Apparently, it's one of the oldest, like, events that they've had in the Olympics. Really? Was it someone who was kind of like, I don't like the, like, running,

there's a lot of impact on your body. It's all about the technique. But there were people clearly running. And a few people got booted out of the race because they were running. So yeah, it clearly happens. I just don't. Do they go to VAR for any of that stuff? There's a VAR.

I am dead serious here. Do they use video review? They probably do some form. To judge whether or not. Because it can be very difficult well they were talking about the different runners having like oh he's got one runners the walker sorry he's got the different race walkers that had like he's got one card like he's got one one foul and apparently if you get three then you're you're booted from the race so

so oh so you get you're allowed fouls so clearly like there's somebody reviewing and watching the entire race they do have a they have like a slow motion camera that the judges can see from what i'm seeing so they have var yeah their version because it's like it'd be so hard to i think back in the day they never knew for sure okay this is a horse thing so people are going to text in but they never knew for sure if a horse when it was running, had all its legs off the ground at one point because your eyes couldn't actually see. Do they? I think so.

Until they invented the camera. Until they invented the camera. Then they were like, for sure. I think the deal... They couldn't tell the horse was like, okay, stop now. I think the deal with race walking and the whole appeal of it

is that it's sort of like a long, slow burn where you can't make up a ton of ground quickly. You can't just go into a sprint and all of a sudden pass a guy, right? No, you've got to think about the long term, right? It's all about your pace. I'm just thinking, here comes the turbo. But there isn't, right? There's no extra gear to really get to. I'm walking as fast as I can.

I would be so tempted to run. Well, it's about saving your energy and it's about knowing the right opportunities and I'm sure there's like a, you know, a technique to it that I don't understand. Well, it's the hip movement.

Yeah. I don't know. We've had Evan Numphy on before, I think, and we've talked to him about this. Yeah. It's all in the hips. Yeah, all in the hips.

Wouldn't work for me. Kevin on the road, what learned and this has this whole week has been like a big thing like brough is old josh is young that sort of thing classic dynamic kevin on the road what we learned one of the new hires at work didn't know what napster was damn we're old yeah josh do you know what napster is googling yeah napster what was that i have heard of napster though i do not know what napster is did you ever download music illegally is it like um what was the other one my my don't answer lime wire lime wire yeah was a big one i used uh i used lime there were other things you could download too. Like what? Movies. Movies.

What kind of movies? You would only watch the first few minutes. Cut the download off after a while. That's all I need to see? Good to go. Yeah. No one ever really wondered like, I wonder how that ended.

I was so invested in the plot. Good storyline. Did the pizza ever get delivered? Tony, here's a question. This is also based on things that we were talking about earlier

in the show. What's more embarrassing for each country? Ben Johnson's doping scandal or Carl Lewis singing the American national anthem?

I think at the time Ben Johnson's doping scandal, but I think as time has passed, Carl Lewis singing the American National Anthem. And the Rockets, red flag. Uh-oh. I'll make up for it now. For the land of the free.

Oh, my God. Was that at a Lakers game? Was it the All-Star game? I feel like I remember seeing red jerseys in the background, but I don't know what game it is. But man, I'll make it up now. Don't worry. And then he does not make up for it in any way.

Like, did he just start too high? Was that his problem? he's not an experienced singer right right he needed to have one of those tuning things where it's like that american anthem it gets to some high notes man you gotta be prepared you really gotta that was quite lovely jason yeah i was like okay and we start you've been training with Andy. Yeah. Andy Cole. Mike, the urologist from Brockville. What we learned, hear me out. If the Canadian women can pull out a gold

medal in soccer, maybe we should sign Bev Priestman long term as she seems to have perfectly motivated the team out of its World Cup funk. She's playing 4D chess here. Hopefully. It has been an awesome story so far. A couple other good stories to keep your eye on today.

Felix Auger, alias Seam. He's in the men's singles quarterfinal and the mixed doubles semifinal. And Summer McIntosh, she's gonna win the 200 meter butterfly final. She's gonna win the 200 meter butterfly final. She's gonna add another gold medal to her repertoire. No jinx. That is at 11.30 Summer's Race, so make sure to watch

that. Appreciate everyone listening, everyone texting in. Thanks to Basketball Ben, thanks to Laddie, thanks to Jason Brough. I've been Josh Elliott-Wolfe. This has been Halpern and Brough on Sportsnet 650.