Halford & Brough in the Morning - Is A Lack Of Donair Gun Hurting The Canucks?

Episode Date: April 28, 2025

In hour three, Mike & Jason talk the latest around the Oilers with Daily Faceoff's Tyler Yaremchuk (1:39), as Edmonton tied up their series versus the Kings last night, plus the boys tell us what they learned (27:00). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

The David to dry saddle right corner dry saddle to Nugent Hopkins side of the And the others have been in fourth, three and overtime. And they have tied this series in two games apiece. BC's first and trusted choice for debt help with over 3,000 five-star reviews. Visit them online at sans-trustee.com. We are in hour three of the program. Tyler Yaremchuk from Oilers Nation and Daily Face Off is going to join us in just a moment here to talk about the biggest roller coaster of all the first round series so far, Kings Oilers. It's been full of drama.

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Trust the expertise of Campbell and Pound. Visit them on the internet at Campbell-Pound.com today. We are coming to you live from the Kintec studio, Kintec footwear and orthotics working together with you in step. I'm curious and excited to hear our next guest because he tweeted out last night that his voice

may be completely ruined from last night's festivities. Let's hear it, Tyler Remchuk from Oilers Nation and Daily Face Off Now on the Hellford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Morning Tyler, how are you? Morning boys, I got two liters of water already in me, so the voice is doing okay. You sound all right.

If your voice was shredded beyond recognition, you gotta buy, it was justifiable, because this has been such a roller coaster of emotions, this series. How do you really truly encapsulate and review everything that's gone on? And we're only at game five, like it's only four games in the books here,

but so many things have happened already in this series Yeah, it's just been absolutely chaotic And I think it's kind of funny like heading into this first round if you would have had people just take like hey What series are you most excited for a lot of people probably would have said oh, it's Colorado Dallas But I was just recording another podcast with that with Frank Sarah Bali and it was like those two teams are almost like too good at hockey to make it entertaining. The Oilers and Kings are both so like wildly chaotic and they both have these crazy flaws to them that have both been exposed at so many different points and the highs and lows are

insane. Like for LA, the fact that in back-to-back games they basically just decided to try and run out the clock in the third period against this Oilers team as absolute insanity. And this is also an Edmundon team and Chris Noblock spoke about this last night, that is really kind of showing that they gained a lot from going to the cup final last year. And I know that sounds obvious, but for the first couple of seasons when they were going on these runs with Connor McDavid and Leon Dreisandl and losing to Vegas and losing in the Western Conference final to the Avs, there were points where they runs with Connor McDavid and Leon Drysadden and losing to Vegas and losing in the Western Conference Final to the Avs. There were

points where they struggled with adversity and that's just not really who the Oilers are anymore. They're showing and I do think it's almost similar to what the Leafs are doing right now. I know they lost on the weekend but they're showing they have a different level of maturity than maybe they did in the past. I think that was on display last night at Roger's Place. Covering this series as closely as you have, how big an impact did Jim Hiller's challenge on Friday night, the failed goalie interference challenge

in game three, which the Oilers went on to win, how big an impact has that made on this series? It's series changing and that almost like doesn't even feel like I'm putting enough emphasis on it. It was insane, like to give the oiler, like you can watch that replay a thousand times. Like I just, I don't see anything there that would lead me to believe there's goalie interference. Even if you think of Vander Kane nudges Kemper or whatever he's got, I believe it's Ozzy Kopitar basically all over him. Like there's nowhere for Kane to go. And the

fact that the LA Kings took a time out to review that for longer before deciding that they ultimately wanted to challenge, it's insane. And to give this Oilers power play, which I know had been struggling a little bit early on in the series, but still it's crunch time. You have Connor McDavid and Leon Dreisdahl and Evan Bouchard, who by points per game

are three of the best playoff performers of this generation to give them an opportunity on home ice to take a lead like that after the building had honestly finally woken up. I just still, I sit here today, series is tied 2-2, there's no way this series is tied 2-2 if Jim Hiller doesn't decide to challenge that. I'm trying to frame this the right way, but I guess it's, what's the stronger of the two? Is it Edmonton's feeling and ability to come back

from any deficit or LA's fear and trepidation of playing with any sort of lead? I think it's the second one. And this is part of the reason why I, this is part of the reason why I was not overly worried after the first two games, because even though LA was scoring a bunch of goals and all that, I was sitting there kind of saying like, they're almost playing in a way where they're just preying on the Oilers making mistakes.

They weren't playing with that much pace. They weren't pushing the play all that much. They were just kind of sitting back, staying in their system and saying, Hey, the Oilers are going to turn over four or five pox. If we score on a couple of those chances, we're going to win, especially considering Edmonton's goal-setting. And I said, if Edmonton wakes up even a little bit and stops making all of these grade A boneheaded mistakes, LA just doesn't have the ability to push the pace

all that much. And I guess last night you can sit there and say, hey, through two periods or through 30 minutes, the Kings were pushing the pace a little bit. But with the Oilers, it's basically just delaying the inevitable. If you're going to take your foot off the gas, Connor McDavid, Leon Dreisel, Evan Bouchard, are eventually going to find a way to break through.

And whether it's at the six-minute mark of the third period or with 30 seconds left in the third period, they just time and time again find a way. So the king's taking their foot off the gas and really just not wanting to play with much pace at all as soon as they take a lead. To me, that's the defining part of this. Does Stuart Skinner make another appearance in this series? I just, I don't see a way in which Chris Knoblot comes to that conclusion. And listen, I know last year in the Oilers-Kinnock series, they went with Pickard twice.

And then when they lost that game five, they went right back to Stuart Skinner for game six. But I just, I look at the way Calvin Pickard played last night and, you know, you talk about the, the great aim mistakes that the team in front of them is making. Stuart Skinner couldn't make a big stop. And you can sit there and look, I know the Kings hit a post late in the third period, but Calvin Pickard slammed the door and made some really, really clutch saves in the third period. And even if he were to give up four goals and the Oilers lose four, three or four, two or whatever in game five, I don't see how you can look at the body of work and come to the conclusion that Stewart Skinner is going to give you any better of a shot

at winning than Calvin Pickard does. I think it's Pickard's crease the rest of the way. I know it's not the off season yet, but what is the talk around the goaltending situation in Edmonton? Surely they're not going to come back with Skinnerd, Skinner, Skinnerd. Let's call them Skinnerd as a duo.

Skinner and Pickard. They're not going to Let's call them Skinnerd as a duo. Skinner and Pickard. They're not going to be the two goalies next season, are they? I really, I mean, we'll see how this playoff run goes, I guess is one caveat. You have to put on this, like if they come back and beat the Kings and then whatever they get, Minnesota, Vegas, if they go on

another run to the Western Conference final, maybe there's a part of the front office that goes, well, these guys have gotten up this far two years in a row, but no, I really don't think they're going to run back with the same duo. And I do think as unfortunate as this is, it's probably going to be Calvin Pickard is the odd man out, even though he saved the day a couple of times now. And the guys in the room just absolutely love Pickard. I just look around the NHL and I go, there are a lot of examples of 25, 26 year old goalies who have bad seasons, who take steps back. And it's, you don't have to go that far back in the past to find a Stuart Skinner who had a 915 save percentage

in the regular season. Stuart Skinner's had multiple runs where he goes for two, three months and it's like, Whoa, this guy looks like a top 10 top five goalie in the NHL. He'll go and have a nine 30 save percentage for 20 starts. His lows are really low. And I think they're ultimately going to look at that and go as he matures and gets to become a 28 29 30 year old goalie, those lows will stop being quite as drastic and you'll find a way to get more consistency is basically just a long way of me saying, I don't think they're gonna pull the shoot on a really young goalie yet.

I think they're gonna try to find a better veteran to pair with Stuart Skinner so that he maybe doesn't feel as much pressure when he's going through a low run. And you can sit there and point to a Jake Allen or someone like that and go, hey, this guy's just gonna start eight of the next 10 and Stuart doesn't need to worry about playing every single night, even when he's struggling.

We're speaking to Tyler, your M-Chuck from Daily Face Off here on the Haliford and Breff show on Sportsnet 650. Here's one for you, Tyler. How did Quinton Byfield not get that puck out last night? I have no idea. And listen, it's the playoff. There are always gonna be little breaks like this that you look back on.

Like you need to be very, very lucky to go on a deep run, to win a series. Like I always think back to that Oilers-Conucks game Saturday and JT Miller had that shot right at the end that like went off the shin pad of Nikita Zadorov. And I'm like, man, that puck was going to the back of the net if it doesn't hit his own teammate. Like you need sort of these weird little things to break your way. I even go back to, I mean, on the game time goal, Zach Hyman, it wasn't quite a sleuth of, but he just took the feet out from under Drew Doughty.

That doesn't get called five seconds later puck in front. And all of a sudden it's in the back of the net. Like you need those breaks to go your way. The Kings got them in the first two games. You could say the oil has definitely got a few with byfield and then with the miss tripping call as well. But I mean, a few with byfield and then with the miss tripping call as well. But I mean, again, the byfield mistake, sure. I think there are eight to 10 other reasons why

the LA Kings have blown this two-nothing lead. What is Evan Bouchard going to make in his next contract? I mean, granted I have not been covering this sport for a very long time, but in my time covering this team, this league, I don't think I've ever seen a more polarizing player in a fan base. Like, I'm not kidding. If you just went on the street in Edmonton and asked 10 random people, what should Evan Bouchard make next season? Five of them would be like $2 million. He sucks in his own head. And the other five people would be like, pay him the max $10 million. He's one of the most quutch defensemen in the league.

And like, that's just Bouchard. Does he have the potential to make a great A mistake that costs you a hockey game? Absolutely. Saw it a bunch of times this year. But does he also have this special ability in the offensive zone to totally change the course of not just a game, but a series? Yes. He already at this point in his career has six playoff game winning goals. He's only been on like three playoff runs. The all time record is only like 10 or 11, like he's well on his way to setting that record in his career. It is insane what he's able to do.

And it's part of the reason I'm a Bouchard truth or Bouchard back or whatever you need to call it. I just think the things that he does with the puck are so special. And when you have a forward group, that's that, that is as talented as the Oilers is and you have McDavid and you have Dry Settle, the most important thing is getting those guys to puck and having those guys keep drives alive in the offensive zone. Bouchard does that, I think, better than almost anyone does in the league. So for that reason, if I were Stan Bowman and I sit down with his agent and the agent goes,

I want $9 million, I want $9.5 million. I sit there and I went and I go, man, there's going to be a lot of nights where he makes a bad mistake and I'm going, why am I paying this guy $9.5 million? There's going to be a lot of nights in the playoffs where he does what he did last night or what he did in game three and you go, man, I'm sure happy I have that guy on my team. We were just talking about the Winnipeg Jets and what's at stake for them in this first round, which is suddenly a best of three

with the St. Louis Blues. Well, it's a best of three for the Eulers with the Kings and we've talked a little bit about how some of the Eulers secondary players are getting a little bit older. Zach Hyman, 32, Nug is 32. You know, Matias at home who they very much miss is 34 years old. Um, not a ton coming in terms of the farm team, unless I'm mistaken or the prospect group, any concern about the, the aging of some of the complementary

pieces in Edmonton? Yeah, you're not mistaken by saying not a ton coming. In fact, I think that's actually rather complimentary to the Euler's prospect pool. There is zip coming. Like outside of Matsavoy, no one to really hang your hat on in the prospect pool. And I do think that's a concern. And I think that's why you see this front office right now. Like last summer, they took a shot on the silly pod calls and saying, okay, we don't

have prospects coming. They need to keep taking these sort of flyers like pod calls. And then we saw them sign Quinn Hudson out of, uh, out of college and they signed a guy and David Thomas that could granted is 29 years old. But like, if you're going to be a team that wants to keep your Stanley cup window open for a decade, like the oilers are trying to do here. If you're not going to have that influx of young talent coming in that can give you quality minutes for low cap hits, ELCs, things like that, they're not going to get that through drafting because one, again, nothing coming, two, they traded all their first round picks for the next couple of years. Then you need to take flyers on guys like Pudkols and like Hudson.

And I really do think that's going to be the approach the oilers take moving forward here is like any 22 to 25 year old who's in need of a change of scenery, the oil think that's going to be the approach the oilers take moving forward here is like any 22 to 25 year old who's in need of a change of scenery the Oilers They're just gonna go get that guy and be like man We hope we strike gold a couple of times because that's really the only way you're gonna be able to provide McDavid and Dry Settle with a continued quality supporting cast because there's no picks coming as guys Like you said Nugent Hyman and the Vanderkane continue to age out You're gonna need young talent coming, and it's not coming through the draft for the Oilers.

So there's three forwards in this series that have a whopping nine points through four games. Two of them you would expect. It's McDavid and Dry-Subtle. The third one is LA Kings forward Adrian Kempe, who's been really, really good for them so far. What have you seen from Kempe through the first four games? Yeah, and listen, he's been really good

the last couple of series, but at least what I saw in the first two games, and honestly, I did see it in games three and four. He's shown a much better ability to truly take over a game, and it's almost like a start in the D-zone, but he will pick up the puck in the D-zone, and he just goes,

and the straight line speed is so impressive. The physicality for a guy who's listed at what he's listed at, he plays like he's six foot five. Like he's impossible to knock off the puck. I've been really impressed with Kempe's ability to like take over moments in the game. And the other thing too is I talked about those great A mistakes the Oilers are making in games one and two. Man, if you give Adrian Kempe two Mississippis in the offensive zone, that guy is just not going to miss. Like he is so skilled. His shot is so good that if he has nevermind two Mississippis,

if he has half a second to pick his corner, he is picking it nine times out of 10. So that lethal finishing. But also the fact that I think his game has just grown a bit more in terms of a 200 foot game and the way he can take over a shift starting in his own D-Zone that's been really really impressive to me. So Kempe and Kopitar have combined the stats in this series are hilarious they've combined for 16 points in four games so between the two of them they're averaging four points a game they're also minus 10 combined. This series just makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, the Kings have scored a few goals on the power play, I believe. I know, that's what I'm saying, but it's such a disparity. Like, they're scoring like crazy, but they're also giving up goals like crazy. It's been a fun series so far. And the minus 10 too, like I don't even feel like, I was watching yesterday and I joked with the guy I was sitting with. I was like, I don't think I've ever seen Anze Kopitar turn over a puck. I know. The fact that you said they're minus 10, you can't even fault them for that

because they're just minus 10 because they have the matchup of Connor McDavid and Leon Dreifed. They always are taking that matchup. So yeah, it's tough. It's a heavyweight bout between those top two lines. And I mean, it's down to a best of three where again, coin flips, little moments,

however you want to describe it, like the margin is still gonna be a razor's thin. Tyler, this was great, man. Thanks for taking the time to do it. We appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of this series. It should be a lot of fun. Yep, thanks guys, see ya. Tyler, you're on check from Daily Face Off and Oilers Now

here on the Halford and Bruff Show on Sportsnet 650. I know you wanna say it. No, I'm not gonna say anything. Just say it. You're really stumbling over some words today, Halford. I got like 20 minutes I guess it's series. I'm gonna cut together a highlight pack of all your blunders the low-light pack That happens. What do you want to say? I wanted I wanted to say series you got caught up in series in series

Connor sure you should really go to shoot That is what happens the oil is my twin He's always trying to force his Sean Connery impression in the interviews. When I get tired. How can you stop? I get the Connery. You get the Irish tongue? You get the case of the Connerys.

You're also drunk. That's true as well. Okay. Let's do some what we learned because there is a story that we haven't gotten to, which I really want to mention. And I have to admit, I was kicking myself a little this weekend because although we mentioned

this story in the last few months and we kind of brought it up, we never really dove into it. And I had this, I had this feeling that this was going to be a major storyline of the draft. And it really was. I learned that this was easily the funniest NFL draft in history.

It was up there. And it wasn't because it was in Wisconsin. It was because of everything that happened with Shudder or Sanders. That's so much to unpack. The amount of funny stuff. I mean, first of all, the fact that the president was tweeting about whatever he truth

socialing about this and saying like, GMs are crazy for passing on this guy to the fact that Mel Kuiper Jr. was having like an emotional meltdown, because he was like, why, you know, like this guy's a talent. And he falls all the way to what, the fourth round. And then it comes out that one of the NFL team's defensive coordinator's son.

Atlanta Falcons defensive coordinator, Jeff Albrecht. His 21 year old son was responsible for the prank call that Shadura Sanders got at his draft party that was well attended, but an absolute disaster because he didn't get picked at all in the first round and then didn't get picked on the second day which is rounds two and three and everyone is wondering what's going on with this guy and to cap it all off to cap everything

that happened that was hilarious of course the team that drafts him is the Cleveland Browns. Fifth round, 144th overall pick. After they took a quarterback. They took another one. The same team that gave arguably the worst contract in sports to their current quarterback and also drafted, not too long ago, Johnny Manziel, one

of the greatest busts in professional sports history. Welcome to the party, Shadr Sanders. So right now they've got Sean Watson, Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, the first quarterback they took, Dylan Gabriel. Then the second quarterback they took in the fifth round, Shedur Sanders.

Sanders becoming the fifth quarterback taken in what was a really QB light draft. There wasn't a lot at all. Well, the Seahawks got a draft. Or is it, so they got a quarterback. Yeah, I'm actually, I was actually really encouraged that they went out and got that because, you know, Sam Darnold, I think he'll

be fine, but I don't know if he's the type of quarterback that's going to lead the Seahawks to a Superbowl win. I don't know if the Seahawks are, actually I'm pretty sure the Seahawks aren't ready to win a Superbowl anyway. So you actually want to have a succession plan. Just like, just give me a little bit of hope waiting in the wings.

I don't know much about this quarterback, but I know he was good enough to be drafted in the third round and then they traded away Sam Howell because they were like, well, we don't, we don't need that many quarterbacks. Jalen Milrow is a ridiculous athlete. Is he? Nick Saban said going into the combine that he

brings attributes to the quarterback position that no other QB in this class, including Cam Ward had. Now not a, um, not as polished or refined a passer as Ward. At Alabama, he made a lot of plays with his feet. Like he can run the ball very effectively. There were a few picks too, didn't he? Yeah.

The interesting thing is that Seahawks GM John Schneider shot down any notion that he was going to be like a gadget player or a slash player. They were going to use them. I think they probably will try and use them early in his career in those moments to try and exploit his athleticism, but they view him as a quarterback.

I think they're going to groom him and play him and have him work under Darnold as straight up quarterback. So I think that's really interesting. Can you imagine a worse landing spot for Shadura Sanders than Cleveland, or do you think maybe it'll work out? I mean, I don't even know how long he is for

Cleveland, they have four quarterbacks technically ahead of him. Well, I think. I mean, he's a fifth round pick. It's not like you've invested a lot of capital in him. The stakes are incredibly low for Cleveland because if it doesn't work out, just say,

goodbye, farewell. Again, Watson, Flacco, Pickett, Gabriel. They, I mean. Well, Watson's not going to play this year. He's hurt. He's, he's just had a, I don't think they ever want him to play another game for the Cleveland Rats.

He re-tore his Achilles. Joe Flacco, Kenny Pickett, Dylan Gabriel. You know, I, I, I, I'd give him a chance of, of making the cut, but I think ultimately what happened with Chidora Sanders is a phrase that you like to use a lot. The juice wasn't worth the squeeze. I think there's two things that happened.

Number one, everyone knew that this guy was going to be a lot in terms of bringing into your organization, just with the attention that he brings, the baggage that he brings. And in order to do that, you need to know that the talent is there. And I just, I think there are a lot of people out there that just said, yeah, I don't know if it's worth it because I don't know if he's as talented as some may suggest.

Mel Kuiper, for example. I'm in, and I don't want to pivot off this, but we're running up against it for time anyway. I'm even more excited about a quarterback that got taken after Shader Sanders to see our boy Curtis Roark. Yeah, Niners though, but we got to, so that's tough. They're going to basically let him spend the year,

I think on some sort of equivalent of like bubble wrap because he's got to recover from the ACL surgery. So, but if you heard Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch talk about how excited they were about getting them in the seventh round, they thought that was a steal and it's a quarterback room. That's got Brock Purdy, Mac Jones, Tanner Mordecai. So they've got guys there. So the interesting thing is that there's really no pressure whatsoever for work

to do anything this year. You can get healthy. He can learn the system, and then who knows how things unfold with the backup spots in the NFL. They're always so fluid, but good on him as well. You're right though, it was a very, very hilarious draft. It was the funniest draft ever. Yeah. Okay. We got to go to break. When we come back, we're going to do what we learned. Get yours in. Dunbar Lumber, text message in basket is 650-650, hashtag it WWL and let us know what you learned over the last 72 hours in sports. You're listening to the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Hey, it's Vic Nazar. Have your say and join me on the People's Show with big takes and even bigger bets,

weekdays three to four on Sportsnet 650 or wherever you get your podcasts. It's what we learn time It's what we learn time It's what we learn time On the show 8.32 on a Monday, happy Monday everybody, Halford Brough, Sportsnet 650. Halford and Brough of the morning is brought to you by Sands and Associates. Learn how a consumer proposal reduces your debt by up to 80% with no more interest. Visit them online at sans-trustee.com. We are in hour three of the program. It is what we learn time.

Hour three is brought to you by Campbell and Pound, real estate appraisers. Trust the expertise of Campbell and Pound. Visit them on the internet at Campbell-Pound.com today. It's a very special edition of what we learned today. They're all special. Nope, this one's super special. We got the double laddie today. Not one, but two doses of Greg.

I don't know if they can handle this. Two laddies? Two laddies? Two laddies? I wanna start with the baseball, because I know, both of we've talked about this, I know that you and I both saw the Helio Ramos little league home run for the San Francisco Giants yesterday.

For those that are unaware, there's no dictionary definition of what constitutes a little league home run. The general rule of thumb is any hit that doesn't make it past the pitcher's mound that still manages to get the batter all the way around. And it's not a real home run because there are errors.

A comedy of errors. You're not credited with a home run. A cacophony of errors. But it's a home run. But it's a home run, a little real home run because there are errors. A comedy of errors. You're not credited with a home run. A cacophony of errors. But it's a home run. But it's a home run, a little league home run. Helio Ramos got one yesterday for the Giants. You have the audio of this because I haven't heard the audio yet. I do. I have the John Miller call.

So he's the home broadcaster for the Giants. And they're playing Texas. You're playing Texas. And this like sums it up better than anyone else could. John Miller, take it away. Ramos has been on base twice and he hit the soft bouncer, passed him out off the third base side. Jackson, he bare hands it and throws it away at first. It goes right on by Berger and down the right field line.

And now Ramos around second heading for third to throw. It goes wild. It goes over to the sidewall. He jumps up. He heads home and the game is over. It's a Little League home run. You think they all got to go to McDonald's after that? They did, they did. They all got free fries. To end the game too, the fact that it happened alone

is incredible, but to end the game, a walk off Little League home run. Yep, no one is backing up the bags. That's what you gotta teach those little leaguers. Where was the catcher? Come on. Yeah, right fielder, left fielder, gotta cover a bag, son. Anyway, that was a good one.

Okay, moocow that. Ah! The boy is playing pitching for the first year. Minor, first year minor, yeah. So the funniest thing is when there's actually a hit. Yep. Because everyone looks shocked. Everyone is caught off guard.

Everyone is caught off guard. The pitcher, the batter, the catcher, the ump, everyone's like, I did not expect that. What do we do? First year minor, if you're a kid that is not good at baseball, first year minor is awesome, because you can get up there, you will pretty much get on base. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's walk, and then you steal second, you steal third. You're already on top of a... A walk is a triple. I would use to threaten kids. I'm like, Ter's walk and then you steal second you steal third. You're you're already on top of a walk is a triple. I would use to threaten kids. I'm like Terrence if that bat leaves your shoulder We're gonna have problems today. You are taking a walk. Ah Terrence. That's like me coaching dump and chase hockey when they're seven years old. It's like they'll make a mistake on the breakout. Yeah, it's good for their development. It is. Safe is not death. In this is it's gonna get you to first base Okay, the Texas broadcast apparently by the way

They asked the color guy if he'd ever seen a walk-off Little League World Series before he said not since my youngest kid was about 10 yeah We nicknamed him T money which was funny cuz he was anything but money at the plate But he could get a walk, he could draw a walk. Anyway, we already mooc out it. Now, laddy, a walk down memory lane. Yeah, well I was gonna give this one to A-Doug, but he's like, no, no, this will make me too depressed,

I don't wanna play this, but I'm gonna play it anyway. This is, do you guys remember where we were last year on this date? Yes, well actually no, because I was wasted. But yes. You recall, you don't remember. I know where I was. I was at the Hollywood theater for a Halford and Brough

Canucks playoff watch party. And then this happened. Yossi around, waiting his huge. Nice move to get away from Nyquist. Here's Pedersen. Miller shoots, tip down goal, rebound. Buster, scores. Thate rebound, Besser scores, and Hatcher, Greg Besser and the Cubs have tied the game

with 6.2 seconds. I absolutely forgot that was his hat trick. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah, and the fact that it's Besser too, on top of everything, knowing what's going on right now. I'm just, don't say it. What a time it was. What a time. I wasn't that wasted. I remember the game.

All I remember thinking prior to the comeback was, this is such a letdown, it's such a dud, because we had filled the theater. There was great anticipation. The Conucks had no shots. It was reaching curse potential there at Hollywood. The Conucks had no shots, no offense at all. There was no pulse. I thought the furthest thing from my mind was that they were going to stage this dramatic comeback.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were done. There was no foreshadowing. There was no signs. There were no clues that it was coming. They weren't generating a lot of chances. Unlike the Orlers game last night, you knew the Orlers were coming. You could feel it coming. And the history is suggested with all the other comebacks. This one, I was like, well, we had fun

and we had a lot of beer, so let's just go home. And then out of nowhere, and I gotta tell you, there's very few games where going into overtime, you know that one team is gonna win and one team is gonna lose. Everyone, everyone in that building, the Predators, the Canucks, all the fans, everyone watching was like, Nashville's losing that game.

It was crazy, after that game, ADOG made a prediction that Elias Pedersen and JT Miller would have such a big fight that one of them would have to be traded. We didn't take it seriously at the time. I was like, ADOG, you're crazy, man. He called me Nostradamus. Yeah, he was like, yeah, no, I'm serious.

It's gonna tear the team apart. You guys are celebrating right now. Nostradamus. Next season, we don't even know if- Nostradamus. Rick Tuckett might not even want to be back. There's going to be a lot of talk about. Baster's going to be gone.

Baster will be gone. Demko will be permanently injured. Yeah, it's crazy. Don't have a practice facility. Yeah, Ada was like. Beck Sullivan will be the new head coach. Yeah. Eat it up, boys, because this is as good as it gets.

Crazy. That's what I said all along. It was the monkey paw season. We asked the hockey gods, give us one good season. Monkey paw curls. We should have listened to that dog. Okay, Moo Cal. Ah.

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before the pizza got to the venue. That's right. And that's why you were in the state that you ordered. And then also after the pizza got. And then after the PGA. Was it a show night? Do we have to work the next day? Yes, we did. Yeah, but it was an afternoon game.

Oh, OK, right. It was fine. Was it Sunday? It was a Sunday afternoon. He had 12 hours to recover. He was good. OK, I slept it off. Gunner from Kelowna, what we learned,

I learned that irony played a major part in the Oilers' win last night when you have one of the worst Oilers defensive defensemen make a great defensive play against one of the best offensive players for LA. Might be time for a peewee drill at practice today for LA, learning how to bounce the puck off the boards when in your own end.

There's very few times where I watch an NHL game where I think I could have made a better play than that. That was one of my specialties. Because man, off the boards and out is one of my specialties. Can do it with the best of them. And all we need to do was that.

And I get it. Like he wanted to beat Bouchard, who he probably figured he could, and then go in and either get the puck deep or score a goal. But just a colossal mistake. And in my opinion, a much more impactful mistake than Jim Hiller's challenge.

I mean, yeah, they were both terrible mistakes. I don't know much more because Hiller's one was crippling. No, but, but, but Hiller, if he didn't make that challenge, the Kings still could have lost the game, right? Cause they were tied. And then you might've even said they were likely

to lose the game considering the momentum. Byfield makes a simple chip and out over the 30 seconds left. Game's over. Even if they come back to score, no one's blaming Byfield if he chips it out. Chip it out. Jay with what we learned.

What I've learned watching hockey this weekend, Canucks fans hate the Oilers as much as they love the Canucks. Leafs fans hate the Leafs as much as they love the Leafs. I don't know, Canucks fans love the Canucks, but they also hate the Canucks. Yep. I will say last year did wonders for the Canucks-Oilers rivalry. This year was a letdown, but last year was great. Why, what happened? Why, what happened? We can't have a person named Luke on the show anymore. Just Luke's in general, any Luke's, we can't do it.

Poor Luke Fox. Leif's, could barely have a Frank. Yeah, Frank's and Luke's, it's tough. The Leif's dynamic is interesting. Sam McKee, who we had on the show in the first hour, download the podcast by the way, he's a good barometer of what the fan base is feeling because he's a media guy,

but he's also got like deep, deep rooted like fan instincts. Sure, he's very much, he wants the team to win. He's a buds all day kind of guy. Right, but he also knows that the team has been like, just a nightmare of letdowns over the last decade and he's felt all of it. So he kind of toes the line between, I see some good things for playoff success,

but I can't get ahead of myself because the most epic collapse imaginable is still very much on the table. And I think that's where Leafs fans are at with this right now. David from Surrey, what we learned, I learned that the fight on the bench between Tom Wilson and Josh Anderson was amazing.

I thought there was gonna be more fallout from that because I just thought if you fight on the bench, the NHL would be like, you can't do that. How did they end up on the bench? End of the period, players were filing off. Has it ever happened before? Cause like I've never seen it before. I'm sure it's happened many times in the 70s.

In the 70s and 80s it was a daily dance. In my life passage in the 70s I'm pretty sure. Yeah, I was like, okay, Brodery Bullies era maybe, but. I can't remember ever seeing it. Like Millbury beat a guy with a shoe one time. I jumped into the stands. It's a different time. But it was like Anderson kinda stepped in,

but it didn't look like intentionally. And then Wilson didn't exactly stop his forward momentum, but you couldn't say that he chased Anderson into the bench area to fight him. It just was sort of like. God, I would love to have a player like Tom Wilson on the Canucks, man. Man, he is just like that hit on Caria yesterday.

Yeah. Clean hit. Yeah. He's just a bully out there. Yeah. You gotta have some bullying in you. Oh, he had a big hit on Carrier yesterday. Yeah. Clean hit. Yeah. He's just a bully out there. Yeah. And you got to, you got to have some bullying. Oh, we had a big hit on Jake Evans as well. The physicality.

They're big boys. The physicality will take its toll. I mean, the Habs do have some big guys. I mean, Josh Anderson, Slavkovsky is a big guy, but I don't know if he plays that style. He's a big dude. The problem with Jack guy is that he brings all of the toughness and physicality, but he's a liability. Yeah Yeah, it's tough to play him with he's kind of Julesini at times

Like he'll take himself out of the play, but I do I admire the way that he plays. Mm-hmm, like he's tough He knows his role. Yeah, he's tough and They you know, I heard BX and the guy saying like when they put him in there Everyone it's an old cliche, but everyone felt like three inches taller and 20 pounds heavier. But you could see it, right? They did. Okay.

I want to read a few more here. There's some good What We Learns today. Jeff, for mission What We Learn, Euler's fans do not like joking about McDavid leaving. One of my golfing buddies is an Euler's fan, and I said, how do you feel about McDavid leaving for the Canucks? And he was mad the rest of the round, I think. It's not really a joke per se, but okay. I don't know about coming to the Canucks, but I do,

I do wonder, I'm just going to throw it out there. And which would be worse? McDavid re-signing with the Oilers. Okay. Or McDavid, what province was he born in again? Ontario, right? Ontario. Leafs have some cap space coming up with Marner

and Tavares potentially coming off the books. I mean, it might not match up, but I mean, we just went through this with Tyler Gromchuck. A lot of their guys are, they're getting older and they don't have much coming from the farm to the point where they have to take chances on pretty much anyone. Like, you know, like Pod Coles and he's playing a fair amount for these guys.

Probably too much. What if he goes and tries to sign with the Leafs? So I thought about this. What would be worse? This is my nightmare. What would be worse though? Staying with the Oilers. Staying with the Oilers.

For the Canucks because they're in the same division. If you're going to take two evils, and what's the lesser of them, that's definitely it. Come on, like I know that we're running the risk of the Leafs potentially. Yeah, but then you just open it up to the possibility of the Leafs winning a cup with McDavid. Sure, but that's better than the continual McDavid

roadblock through the West for however long. Yeah. I can't even imagine what Adox said though. Like you imagine. Leaves winning the cup. Yeah, with McDavid, like that would just ruin my hockey fandom. We are picking the lesser of two evils.

We acknowledge that they're both crappy outcomes, but you have to pick one. It would ruin Edmonton further. Like you've been there, right? The mall would close. It looks pretty beat up already. Yeah. That's all they've got.

Yeah, the mall would be shut down. They'd have nothing left. Yeah, just a's telling you. It's all they've got. Yeah, the mall would be shut down. They'd have nothing left. Yeah, just a big orange Julius. That's all they got left. I just hope one way or another that it's not July 1st comes this and then the extension is signed. I need some drama.

I need there to be some doubt to enter the equation. That's all I need. And I need, as a Canucks fan, to at least dream because remember, we nearly got Gretzky. We came real close to getting Gretzky and when Hughes leaves, we got a lot of cap space. A ton of cap space. So maybe we can bring Gretzky back. Okay, I got one here from Tyler. He can still play, right? I got one here from Tyler. Hashtag WWO.

I think he'd sign with an American team for some reason. That's true, yeah. He'd probably want to coach an American team. The Whitecaps kept rolling with a 3-1 win and Miami is still shook losing 4-3. Well, let's put that in context. Miami is very clearly gunning for major revenge this Wednesday in the second leg of the CONCACAF Cup. Okay.

Chup, it said chup. Okay, you're on fire today. Yeah. First it was clup, now it's chup. Now it's chup. Bad day for health return on the team. So the White Cups are up two nothing. Nil.

You don't get to say that. Okay. They're up two nil in their two legged series. Two nothing. Nil. You, you, you, you don't get to say that. They're up two nil in their two legged series. Yep. Away goals count in this one? Correct. Is this the last tournament and does CONCACAF the only? Okay.

So away goals. Yeah, there's not many left. So if Miami won three nil in regulation, they would win. Correct. But if they won 3-1. The Whitecaps would win. The Whitecaps would win. Correct.

So if the Whitecaps go in there and score a goal, that's massive. Yeah. So how do you do, so how do you, if you're, if you're Jesper Sorensen. Yes. What's your strategy? Because scoring a goal would be so valuable, but at the same time, you've got a two goal lead. Just go play.

Just do everything. Don't change anything. Right. There would be no reason to change anything. Like no emphasis on attacking, no emphasis, no extra emphasis on attacking, no extra emphasis on defending, just go play. Jess, whatever tactics you used in the first leg,

use them again. Miami rested everybody yesterday. Yeah. So no Messi, no Suarez. Oh, he was awful in the first leg. He was 38. I know. No Busquets, no Jordi Alba.

They were up 3-1 on Dallas despite all of this, but then cratered and allowed three goals and lost four three. Couldn't get the puck out. Couldn't do it. Easy chip. Yep. You had the chance. Couldn't do it. Woodrow the eligible bachelor with what we learned. What we learned, the existence of a Donair gun implies that it could be adopted in Vancouver. Yet we should have asked Tyler Uremchuk. Are you going Donair? Donair? Donair?

Donair? Donair? We want to get a ruling on this? Donair. Donair? Adog, I know Adog, he's probably eaten about a thousand of them. Donair or Donair?

I say Donair, but I mean a lot of people say Donair. I think Donair is actually the correct way. I mean we're never going to pronounce it properly anyway. No, I mean Donairs are amazing. I could eat them for the rest of my life. So Tyler Uremchuk tweeted out last night. This is great. One of the donairs from the donair gun,

donair sounds better, one of the donairs from the donair gun opened up on release and just shot a mess of ingredients all over section 127. Garlic sauce everywhere. Ooh, happy idea. Ah, my eyes. For the donair gun. This sings. Garlic sauce everywhere. Oh my eyes. For the doner gun. This stings.

I want one. I was supposed to get doner sauce in it. Todd got zesty Italian in his eyes. That must have been amazing to see live. Yeah. Just like a lettuce and stuff. Vancouver's gonna be like, we should have a nachos gun.

Yep. Vancouver should have a sushi gun. A sushi gun, that would be a good idea. That'd be awesome, just shoot him right in your mouth. Can like imagine. Oh my god, I'm higher a lawyer if that happens These oilers have deep pockets. I'm allergic to see Yeah, I didn't I wish there was video of it me too also I want to know who is the marketing guy that greenlit the donor who is the marketing guy that greenlit the donor? It's just shooting, wrapping up food and people.

I had a buddy at the game. You know there was a meeting, it was like, okay guys, if we're gonna have a donor gun, we really need to wrap it up tight. Yeah, who secured the donor? Like this is really, really, really important that we need to wrap it up tight. This is a quality control issue.

Who wrapped these things? They forgot the wrapping. They look for the little initials on the package. Who wrapped this one all? Yeah, that's right. The guy just stuffed a bunch of tomatoes down there, just fire them off. Is that the end of the Don't Air Gun low or do

you think we'll keep it going? Probably. Yeah. Oh, do the basketball fill one. Okay. What we learned, a historic play happened in the NBA playoffs for the first time ever. A game ended on a buzzer beater dunk when Aaron

Gordon put back a Jokic missed shot to win the game and tie the series at two. They did take a look at it for a while. I still to this moment, am not sure that he got that ball in before the red light went on. I watched it about 50 times. I don't know how they were able to judge it.

So what's the rule? It has to be out of his hand at the time the light turns on? It's a dunk. Yeah. It's so hard to tell. Because his hand was still on the ball. Yeah, but through the cylinder.

Right. I get the ruling that they had, but if you want, I challenge anyone to go wide. Just Google it, like Aaron Gordon, game winner. There's a shot when the clock turns. You can see 0.1 and zero are kind of together Yeah, it's like the ball is not all the way through the hoop and his hand is still on the ball That's kind of what I know what you do want to say. Yeah, but that's what I thought but apparently the referees decided otherwise

It was either the worst Game-winning shot attempt or the best game winning pass in NBA history and I'm not sure what it is quite yet because it's Jokic. Kind of reminds me of the NC State win. Yeah, very similar. Except that one was clean-er.

Oh yeah, yeah. This one was super tight. It's a shame that we're not paying more attention to the NBA playoffs because they've been electric. There's a ton of huge storylines. There was that crazy ending to the Knicks Pistons game, where the NBA acknowledged that they missed a foul on the game-winning shot, potential game-winning shot.

Can you imagine if the NHL did that? Imagine if they went back over the Oilers game last night, they were like, you know, it was a pretty big slash that we missed. Yeah. And the clue was his stick was blown in half. But the clues. Yeah, the NBA does this two minute report

at the end of games where they review all the referees calls and then they will issue press releases from the league being like they got it dead wrong. It's the exact opposite of how the NHL handles officiating and it would be hilarious if the NHL ever adopted it. Okay, we gotta get outta here. We're up against it for time and the music is playing. Apologies if we didn't get to hear what we learned, try again tomorrow, we'll spend more

time doing them. Thank you all for contributing nonetheless. For today though, we gotta say goodbye. Signing off, I have been Mike Halford, he's been Jason Bruff, he's been Adog and he's been Laddy. This has been the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650.