Halford & Brough in the Morning - Jake DeBrusk Wants Out?

Episode Date: March 3, 2026

In hour three, Mike & Jason discuss Ben Kuzma's latest piece about how Canucks forward Jake DeBrusk doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild (3:00), plus the boys tell us what they learned (27:00). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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And this is also going to double as our smart decision brought to you by Crow. Here's the lead. Jake DeBrusk doesn't want to be a part of a rebuild. That is a smart decision. So a very smart decision. He doesn't want to be part of the Kinex. He does not want to be a part of the team any longer. Also smart decision.

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Yesterday Following the Kinex dismal 6-1 loss To the Dallas Stars Ben Kuzma The Vancouver Province got Something of an exclusive quote from Jake Debrusk in which he said the following about the current state of Vancouver Canucks

and where he fits into the long-term plans. This is me being Jake DeBrusk. I think a rebuild is hard for every player. But at the same point, it's a great opportunity for the younger guys. This game humbles everybody, and it's been a little more humbling this year. Obviously, that the rebuild

is not something I would be okay with or accepting. My game doesn't fit that. So when he says my game doesn't fit that, do you think it means he recognizes that he needs to play with a play driving center? I think that's part of it. I also think that maybe less specifically, I think he's talking about his game in terms of where he's at in his career,

what he brings to the table. Yeah, but where he's at in his career, you wouldn't put it, my game doesn't suit that. No, but my, I think that he's a certain player at this stage in his career. Like I think Jake DeBresk is what Jake DeBresk is. Yeah. I think two years ago. You think Bessor's like, me too. I think two years ago when Jake DeBresk signed from Boston, there was hope that he might evolve into something else.

I do believe that. I believe the Congress thought there was more there. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of what I'm talking. about. And right now, I think the Canucks and Jake DeBrusk know exactly what he is and what he's bringing to the table, what his limitations are.

And he's not going to mature or manifest or turn into a different player. So in that regard, to add on to what you're talking about, like, I definitely think part of it is like, if I'm going to be successful in the NHL, it's not going to be surrounded by what I'm surrounded in Vancouver. Yeah. Like a play driving center. I also think

this is a full-throated signal to the organization to get me out of here. Yeah. Because in this state, he does not want to be part of this. Clearly. I'm not going to go down the road of he didn't sign up for this because I don't

particularly think he's held up his end of the bargain, although it has to be said he did score a career best 28 goals last year. So it's not like. He's a complimentary player. That's what he is. Here's, and by the way, that's why, you know, there's a lot of people that, um, that text in and I, and I'm not, I'm not saying it's an unfair point. Okay.

But I just want to maybe let you on the way I look at the game. People will say, you spend so much time on Pedersen and you don't have a lot of things to say about a guy like Jake DeBrask. And Brock Besser is the more apparent one, right? You guys, oh, you never, like, what is Brock Besser doing? He's doing nothing out there. Brock Besser is not a play driver. Like, your centers are almost,

always your forward play drivers. Like sometimes you can have a winger that drives play for sure. Like I think Connor Garland on the Canucks has often been their most reliable play driver. But if you want to build a Stanley Cup contending team, you know, it's down the middle, where it all starts up front. It is. With a few exceptions, you know, the Chicago Blackhawks during their dynasty never had an incredible credible 2C. They had Jonathan Taves up front,

but they had Hall of Fame wingers and Patrick Kane and Marion Hosa could drive a line. So why is there so much focus on Elias Pedersen

when, and the rest of the centers, there was so much focus on J.T. Miller when Brock Bessor isn't doing anything out there, it's almost like put it in football terms, you'd be like,

let's say your quarterback stinks. Are you focusing on the receivers then? Or are you focusing on the quarterbacks? No, it's a fair point to be made. And it's a good analogy. I mean, I don't even think it needs explanation. Well, I think it does.

I don't think it does. But it's just the way I see the games. It's like down the middle is the spine of the team. It's so much more than that with why is the focus on Peders? It's almost naive. There's a level of naivete. And I think intentional naivete textors to try and compare the sort of indifference play of Brock Besser

to the indifferent play of Elias Pedersen. Because as I've said, countless times this show and I'll reiterate it again, the Liz Petterson contract is the most onerous and worst contract that's ever been signed in this franchise's history. And he carries himself differently than Brock. Brock Bessers is not.

Elias Pederson found himself embroiled in a bitter feud with a teammate that according to the architect of this team divided the room in half. Brock Besser did not do that. Elias Pedersen is one of the handful of players in the National Hockey League

making more than $10 million annually. As a matter of fact, he's making more than $11 million annually. Brock Besser is not that. So we could go further down the road. And he's so handsome. There's also that. You know? And he's a good guy.

Can you really look into those eyes and get that mad? I'd say no. I imagine that's what it is. That's why they gave him the contract. Let's look at him. But to Jason's point, to Jason's point, beyond the narrative monster, there is the straight goods on the ice, which is Brock's a little bit more on the periphery. He's a complimentary player.

There's nothing wrong with that, but you need someone to compliment you. And now with, be nice if someone complimented me once in a while. Yeah, it's not going to happen. Now I'll see. In both ways to use that word. I'll say differently. I'll say this about Debrusk.

Um, there's been, there's been an equal part of both sides not really living up to their end of the bargain on this contract. I find it an interesting dynamic. You could say that you wanted more out of Debrusk and you thought he was going to be more. And when he was assigned, it was originally, he was going to be the long awaited winger for Patterson. Yeah. That was the idea behind it. And it never really manifested. And that's what he was.

was sold on to. Yeah. That's what he now you're hitting. Now you're kind of hitting on the point that I wanted to get to. It all comes back to Petey. It's like, but it's like both parties could be finger pointing like well you didn't hold up your end of the bargain and you told me this guy was good and then I... What happened? I think that

it's a very unique situation because... Look at all the shot blocks. That doesn't help me. But you could, if you're DeBras, you could say I came here on a reasonable ticket. It's not like he's overpaid by any stretch of the imagination, right? Especially the cap going on. And I delivered you a 28 goal campaign, which was a career high, and I did, and I tick certain boxes for what

you paid me. Hindsight being 2020, he was probably miscast by the Canucks when they got him. I remember that acquisition being, you know, celebrated as we're going to get this guy out of Boston, and, you know, he always had issues with Bruce Cassidy and the deployment was never there, and he didn't get enough looks on certain units with certain lines with certain players. Remember there was always this sense of, you know, he never got to play enough with the big dogs in Boston.

And so you thought that there was something more there. And then here's the thing. DeBesk came to Vancouver and played like DeBusk has throughout his NHL career. That was one of the most interesting things about it to me was the streaky scoring, check. The notion that there was always something more left on the table, check, but also

contributed and produced at a rate that you couldn't really complain with, check. You know? Pete Blackburn came on our show one time, having covered him in Boston for a long time, he's like, he's a guy that you'll intermittently get really frustrated with and then really like. And a lot of that

has to do with the streaky nature of his scoring. Now, put all, that's all past 10 stuff, put that in the back. And I know, I think Farhan tweeted out that the Canucks, as of now, have not received any calls on Debrusk. be motivated to move on him and move him out. That should be another one that you try and get done as quickly as possible.

Because when a guy is openly talking about he does not want to be a part of this thing, you cannot move off that guy quick enough. It makes me wonder, like, I would love to be a fly on the wall and know how many other Canucks feel the way he does. How many of those other guys are like, I don't want to be here to get me out of here. Great question. Obviously Myers doesn't, but other than Tyler Myers, who really doesn't want to be here right now? Is Garland feeling that way?

Like, who are the other guys are just like, yeah, I'd rather go to a team that has a chance of winning right now as opposed to maybe five years from now? When Garland went on after hours and said that he wanted to be here for the long haul and he wanted to be at Knoch and he wanted to be here when this team got back to the playoffs.

I thought there was a certain nobility about that. I also know that he was on TV and he was a special time. And it was an interview. So I know you have to put on airs. When was that too? It was before the complete collapse. Like things have gone so bad.

So bad. So bad. Like, I think sometimes people, you know, don't appreciate how to balance out arguments. Like, I always say there's a reason when you go to court, there's usually like some sort of statue of like the scales of justice, right? Like, sometimes the scale tips just a little bit and then it tips some more. And you're like, you know how I felt two months ago? I feel differently now. Things change fast.

For a lot of these guys that are on the team right now This will be the worst And least successful season They will ever have in the NHL None of them will ever experience Losing to the degree that they have this year That's not me coming up with some wild hot take Or wildly speculating

It's hard to be this bad It's hard to lose this many games There are so many red Ls On the schedule right now that the green Ws like they're you know they're they barely pop up

they they lose a lot of games and a lot of guys especially ones that are hardwired competitively it's a very difficult thing to go through so in the case of a guy like Garland and a guy like DeBreske you could be like hey if this is what it's going to be like

for the remainder of this year and next year and maybe the year after get me out of here I want to read a couple of texts from people who were at the game last night. Okay. A lot of empty seats last night, by the way. Those showed up, even though all the seats are black now, I can still see you empty seats.

Sal and North Burnaby, unfortunately, it was my eight-year-old son's first live Canucks game last night. Not sure if there's any amount of $8 churros that will bring him back anytime soon. Yeah, Sal's kid was like, we have churros at home, don't we? Yeah. Poco Mark, I was at the game, season ticket holder, very, very disappointing. It looks like very poor coaching. No system play, hard to watch. That has an impact, too.

Like, you know the skills of justice? Like, I would love to know what the owner thinks right now. I would love to know, you know, he's obviously accepted, okay, we're in a rebuild. But again, there's degrees of what's accepted. You can accept losing. And when the Canucks first traded Quinn Hughes, remember I referenced a game that I went to, and I was like, you know what?

Like the fans were into it. The fans were pretty, they were pretty jovial, they seemed pretty supportive of the team. Everyone is having a good time. I think the tone changed last night at the game. There were booze at the end of it. There were. There were people that stuck around and there were booze.

And the Canucks have an eight game home stand still remaining. Yeah. And like the tone of the fan base could. And it's not like, don't and don't say like, you guys wanted a rebuild. Well, this is what a rebuild looks like. Again, this is the nuance of it. You're still going to judge. how they're doing in the rebuild.

You're still going to judge the coaching. The coaching is going to be so important in this rebuild. And Adam Foote may have a point when he says, listen, you got to go through some of this to learn your lessons. Oh man, we're going through a lot of it, right? And I am worried.

I am worried about the young players on the team and whether or not you're going to learn or whether or not you're going to suffer like hockey trauma through all this and you're going to lose your confidence. You know, I think a lot of people point to a guy like Marty St. Louis in Montreal as maybe the type of coach the Canucks need to get where he's just really good at, you know, teaching skills and, you know, he just seems to have a positive message for the most part. And they need to bring in someone who brings something to the table as a coach that's helping these guys. And, you know, too often, you know, Adam Foote after the game, I'm just like, what are you talking about?

Yeah, I, you know, like, what is going to? He's just searching. I think he's really struggling. I think he's struggling. And the Canucks made a decision to hire a guy with no experiences in NHL head coach and very little experience as a head coach, period. He didn't even last the season in the dub in Colonna. But also, did not hire him to orchestrate a rebuild.

Yes. Yes. Did not hire him for those purposes. Yes. And guess what else they did that had nothing to do with the rebuild? Extending Brock Bessor. Extending Connor Garland. Signing Jake DeBrusk.

All of those moves were not made with a rebuild in mind. And now they find themselves smack in the middle of one with all of these pieces designed to make the team competitive. Well, the Adam Footman kind of worked out in a sense. I mean, he is helping them in their rebuild. I'm not trying to. I once again, vehemently disagree with this assessment. And you're kind of seeing this too black and white.

Like, this is the idea, right? Yeah. Coach it, again, the guys that are responsible for finishing at the bottom are players. There's not a coach in the world. that would have had this team out of 32nd place in the NHL. They stink. They're bad. Tolopilo's not an NHL goal.

Part of why they're bad is the coaching is an element of it. Right. But you don't need to be this bad and this dysfunctional and this toxic and this flat and this disengaged to be the 32nd place team in the NHL, which I will remind you only gets you a 25% chance of the first overall pick. Right? what's happening right now is an environment where

people really will have a hard time getting better or learning what they're supposed to do because the stewards of the team, the veterans, the leaders, either are checked out or want out. There's not an environment in the world where that's good, other than the fact that you've sunk to the bottom of the league and you've got increased percentage chances.

So you're saying on one side, yes, Foote's lack of experience may help the tank and the rebuild, but on the other side, it's not going to help the young guys because there's no environment to foster growth. He can't be the coach next season. He can't be the coach next season. I doubt he will be. I guess what I'm saying is like...

Very surprised if he was. They didn't, when they started the season, they had aspirations of making the playoffs. And they brought Adam foot in for that reason. It was part of Keep Quinn happy. Right. So, you know, to say that they stumbled upon the greatest tank commander, I mean, it's all tongue-in-cheek.

Well, I kind of did. He's still trying to win games. Well, yeah, I know. I'm not saying he's not. He pulled the goalie down 4-1 in Seattle. I'm not saying he's not, but it's still part of it. I thought they were going to pull it. I felt it.

I felt it there. I was like, this team has something tonight. If you hear Petey explain it, PD's number wasn't called because he was trying to win the game and he was going with the guys that gave him the best shot to win that. Game he was down 4-1 with minutes left when there was virtually no chance of winning it. Like there's a lot going on with this team that suggests that the culture and the are real bad, real bad.

This DeBrusc thing is very interesting because I'm not even sure that that's him messaging like, get me out of here because the trade might not be able to be consummated. That might just linger as a guy who's said on the record, I don't want to be here and he's going to be here for the remainder of the year and I don't know how much longer next year. It's not like they can snap their fingers and move Jake DeBrask. Matt and Surrey texts in and it says, this is by no means me having similar. empathy for ownership, but although ownership may be on board with a rebuild, you know, he still has to watch probably a hundred million in salary to players and coaches and

everybody else plus a horrible product on the ice that his name is attached to. Matt, that's why I constantly wonder what they're really thinking. And if the, let's call them like the scales of frustration tip to the point where ownership is like, wait a minute. should I entrust this team to the current stewards of the team? Should I? Because that's been the understanding, right?

I mean, when he let the current management group orchestrate the Quinn Hughes trade and we all remember who did that trade and by the way, I always thought that was really unfair that Rutherford said like, I took the Quinn Hughes trade off of Alvine's plate. You don't need to say that.

That's a big boy job. Like, you don't need, you don't need to say that. Yeah. Okay? You know, it was just so weird, right? Just say, like, yeah, we worked on it together. We worked on the Quinn Hughes trade together. Why say take it off his plate?

I can't even remember where I was at. Where am I going with this? Oh, but like, but how are you not, if you're not, if your ownership, how are you not like, furious with what, with what has happened? How are you not, how do you not watch that Pedersen scrum? and be like, see, this is what we miss in the hard cap era. Because back in the day before the salary cap, an owner would march down to the front office and be like,

get this guy traded yesterday. And you can do it. Yeah, and you move on. And you just went, you know, you did it. Or you just were like, I don't even know how it worked back then with contracts. You know, it was just very different. And now we got, you know, the salary cap. and we've got no move clauses,

and we got all the impediments, and it stinks. Yeah. Because, you know, like, you know, back on the day, it was kind of fun when those owners would be like, I didn't like the power play last night. Fire everyone, you know,

trade everyone. Well, did ownership want the EP40 contract, or were they against it? Because that's part of it, right? Like, do they own that contract, or were they one of the ones being like, because as you said, not everyone was on board with it, right?

From what I understand, there is one guy, that really owns that contract, and he is the president of hockey operations. Yep. Well, no... That doesn't look good for him then. No further notes.

That's just a big, yep. Okay. It's a signature move. Oh, yeah, as you said, it is their worst contract they've ever handed out. It's gone horribly, horribly wrong. It's an era-defining contract. Yeah.

Right? And that's just the, the sticker shock, the financials of it. It's the biggest contract they've ever handed out. out in franchise history. No one's made more money from the Vancouver Canucks over the course of a contract, ever. And who knows when it gets eclipsed?

It's not going to be for a while. I don't know. Drew O'Connor's looking pretty good. They can sign him on July 1st. I don't see another extension of that magnitude coming and you're not paying anybody that in free agency. Gavin McKenna will make that when the Cucks give him his contract. That's a ways away. That is a ways away. You know what I mean? And I'm even playing along with

getting McKenna, but that's a ways away. Like that contract hangs around for a long time. Okay, we've got to go to break. When we go back, we're going to do some what we learns. We'll do ours. We'll do yours. Get them in. Dunbar Lumber text line is 650, 650.

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So you'll remember back in December. Hey, that rhymes. The NHL and NHLPA had narrowed the list of host cities for the 28 World Cup of hockey down to 16, 10 in North America and 6 in Europe. Details at the time were scant. NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daly would only confirm that my Montreal and Boston, the host cities for the four nations face off, were on the list of the 10 North American cities.

But there are no other details. You know what's happened over the last 24 to 48 hours. Sounds like Calgary, yes, Calgary has become a major player and a potential host as the North American City for the 28 World Cup of hockey. In the new arena. That's correct. Yeah, they're not going to go to the Saddle Dome. Can you imagine if it's the same as Milan?

It's like, I don't know if we're going to be able to finish this and the ice is. I have no idea how big the ice is. Slated to open in the fall of 2027, Scotia Place, the new rink that's going to be built in Calgary, is a 1.2 billion event center. That's the important. Not just the arena. It's an event center.

And there is a thought that to commemorate this new building and to really give it the pop and the glitz and glamour, that NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and NHL Deputy Commissioner Bill Daley

might make the decision to put the 2020 work of hockey in Calgary. Now, related to... Well, they can't reward teams anymore

with the All-Star game because the All-Star game is over. Remember? Pretty much. Yeah. So you build a new arena and you get an

all-star game or... Right. That's how it works. Typically how it works, right? You give to the NHL, the NHL, the NHL gets you something back. Now, I will note

that today in the Ed Wayland Media Lounge, my favorite of the media lounges in Calgary, Gary Bettman is going to meet with the media. In the release from the Flames PR, in all caps, they made it abundantly clear

that this is not an announcement from the NHL, merely a media availability. But the fact that they bold... There's only one host city, right? One host city, North American, one in Europe. That's right. That's it. That's it.

So they're going to go from a list of 10 North American and 6 Europeans. I mean, that's good. That's good for us. It's not a hard trip to Calgary if you want to go watch some games. That was my next point. Like it wasn't going to happen at Rogers Arena. No. And, you know, I think there was some thought that, of doing it in Vegas. But they don't traditionally like having those games on the West Coast. They prefer to have them in the Central of the East because it's a little more. Yeah.

For the whole audience, the North America guys. Calgary is pretty west. I know. You know. But with these crazy time zone changes that we're about to under. Well, it's in February too, right? Yeah. That's a bit chilly.

I think this is obviously. I think they'll ultimately, we're going to go somewhere kind of warm. It really depends on who's reporting you trust. Eric Francis Sportsnet, who's been dialed in on this story. He's written a couple articles about it. Hasn't gone as far as to say Calgary's getting it.

It's a done deal. Or Calgary's, even in the driver's scene. But he's saying like, if you connect the dots, this is going to be the newest build in the NHL. This is a market that, is in the oldest building in the NHL. And Calgary's a good hockey city. And it's a Canadian market.

And if you're going to have, you know, going from Montreal, it'd be an interesting choice for sure. Because Calgary wouldn't jump to front of mind when you're talking about a North American milk at all. Not at all, right? Not at all. Yeah. Anyway, Muckieie there.

Who else has one for us? I have one. Okay. Keep an eye on the Boston Bruins ahead of the NHL trade downline. And I think we might have chatted a little bit with Wish about this. Well, we also had that report of Jimmy Murphy talking about Connor Garland being a potential candidate for them. So the GM there, Don Sweeney said of his team, we'd like to give them a bump because they've earned that.

Don't joke about it. But it's also an eye towards this year, but moving forward as well. That's what our intentions are as we go to the deadline. And that may or may not come to fruition. So there's a couple people that have come to mind when it comes to the Boston Bruins. One of them is Garland. Yeah. He's a Massachusetts guy.

And at this point, he might welcome a trade to the Boston Bruins. Who knows? I think the other one, though, is Robert Thomas out of St. Louis. So smooth. Because the Bruins still need to solve their issues down the middle. Like, they still haven't quite recovered from having. Bergeron and Craichy down the middle.

Like they got Lindholm Yep And he's He's been a hardworking guy for him He's a nice player Yep But you know Their best forward is still

Posternak On the wing And Giki's been good Oftentimes when he's with Posternock Yeah But they need Listen if they're gonna do this

Retool In Boston And they don't want a tank Their owner's not Pro Tank like they're going to need to make a significant move. And Robert Thomas, I think, could be the star of this NHL trade deadline. Like he could be the guy with St. Louis,

and we're going to talk to Jeremy Rutherford next year or tomorrow. Yeah. Maybe next year as well. Maybe next year as well. But Jeremy Rutherford, who covers the Blues for the Athletic, because, like, the Blues have the potential to be the top dogs at this trade deadline. if they finally decide to go like, all right, it's not working with Thomas and Cairoo down the middle.

And there's other pieces that they could sell off as well, Falk on the back end, right shot defenseman. Braden Chen. Braden Chen's been a trainer for years too. Yeah. They could really blow it up. They could run this show. You know what the Blues could do, though?

Honestly, the Blues could amass a bunch of futures and also win the draft lottery. Yeah, that's fair. They're right down near the bottom of the standings. They're going to get a good player. This is the year where they could be like, not only do we have assets that people want, unlike certain bad teams,

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You got to try the bar pie, 14 inches of cracker thin crust, topped with tomato sauce, mattson, cheddar, only at A.J's pizza order online at AJ's. That pizza. Well, we set this one up. A lot of people writing in about daylight savings time. The big news by the provincial government yesterday that we're no longer accepting it. It's a thing in society. Okay.

Kevin on the road. Kevin on the road, Texan, what we learned. Daylight savings will be permanent this year for BC. It's going to make sports watching more difficult. So I know, you know, everyone for the most part has an opinion. People seem very excited about this. Does anyone have harder opinions on this than sports fans? Nope.

No. I don't know. The reaction online I saw from most people yesterday, like this is a great change. Are they sports fans? For me, I was like, this is just very confusing to me. I saw a lot of reaction for people that just hate the government. And they wanted to get their voice out there. So are there any people like that?

A couple. Tushay. They like to pick on basically every move. Sports fans and government haters were you. Okay. But explain this to me. You're confused. I found it all. Okay.

So when we get our hour, we lose an hour on Sunday. And daily savings time is over. It never comes back. Never comes back. Everyone is on the same time then. Like everyone's on board with the same thing. But then when they spring forward, sorry, fall, see why I'm confused? I do see why you're confused.

And they fall back in November or whatever. So, for example, Washington, Oregon, California, they'll be an hour behind us. It's correct. It's correct. And we'll be in the same time zone as in Alberta. That's correct. And then in Toronto. We'll be able to go to California.

It's like, oh, you didn't know that? That happened like half an hour ago. We know what happened. We're going to clean up on the stock market. Toronto will only be two hours ahead of us. Is that how it's going to work? You're getting it. It's so confusing.

There's a big but. Part attached to this is that everyone else is going to change eventually too. We're just the trend set. Are you so sure? Apparently the move was made with the knowledge that the other provinces and... Oh, David Eby knows something else? Well, the states have already put it through legislature. Legislature.

That's a hard one. They put it out there. Do they still use Congress down there? Apparently. To do something. things. They do a couple of things. They do use Congress when they like it.

When they like the idea and use it. When they don't, then they don't. Okay, so eventually the entire hemisphere will be on board with what we're doing. Correct. And it won't matter. How long is that away from? A year, two years, hopefully. Okay, well, this next two years is just going to be really annoying then.

I'm not going to love NFL games starting at 11 a.m. Canucks away games at 5? Not so bad. Canucks home games at 8.30? Not so good. Down in California? 30? That sucks. That sucks. That sucks. I think I'm just not looking forward to the confusion.

Halford still has sometimes trouble, like, doing the math on games in the Eastern time zone. Never cared for it. Yeah. And you just got to go, like, you cross your border to go to Seattle, and it's an hour behind you somehow. I like that. Like, even that's weird. I like that, you know, you go to, like, a couple hours south and all of a sudden it's an entirely different day. Apparently, there are, like, major health benefits around this. Laddy was trying to explain it to me. So like, because I was like, I don't understand what, why is this good?

Why are people excited about this? But apparently there is like a health thing in regards to why it is preferred. Hey, dogs are like, health. I don't know. Hey, technically you could celebrate New Year's. Actually, no, because then we're all on the same time during that time, right? I say you could celebrate two New Year's, one in Canada and then cross the border and celebrate one in the States. What a fun time.

What a fun time to be alive. It's better for your circadian rhythm? Circadian rhythm. Circadian rhythm. Circadian rhythm? Circadian rhythm? So you have, by being on the same clock the entire year, it's better for your body health-wise. Chican rhythm.

Brought to you by the poultry industry. All right. Alistair and Clearwater, what we learned. The Canucks being 3, 18, and 4 in their last 25, kind of snuck up on me. This is generational bum cheekery. Yep. Says Alistair, the tired sawmill worker. But that's also what I'm talking about, like,

Does it change anything? Does the plan to stick with management change because of what's going on right now? And I know the rebuild was embraced. I realize that. But, you know, what is the fan reaction going to be down the stretch? And that's why I like Pedersen having that scrum yesterday. It's like, I don't know. People are like, I'm Brof's on and Pedersen.

You watch that guy. Like, do you want to cheer that guy on? I know. Do you want to support that guy? Or would you, if you're at the game where you're like, you know what? I'm feeling like booing right now. I know what will make the fan reaction good? I said this many times before if they make a bunch of trades.

That's why it was good after they traded Hughes for those three games when they were winning. This week. Because people were like, we see change on the horizon. This week is so massive. It's huge. If they can make a bunch of big, not even big moves. If they could just make a bunch of small moves and bring a bunch of picks in, Not even big moves.

Just like a bunch of little small moves. I think that would even be enough to get the fan base like, all right, they're embracing the rebuild. This is great. We're excited. What if they can't? Then that's bad.

Because there are... And this isn't just me being like, looking at the negative side of things. I don't know. Maybe they won't make any moves. But there's a lot of talk out there. I think everyone should be prepared for the Canucks to be the last minute. Oh,

I'm very prepared for that. Because... And this is what's going to make it challenging. Right? you can't run out of time. But the pieces that the Canucks have are not the number one pieces on the board. And sometimes you have to be prepared to,

you know, and it makes it very difficult. Sometimes you run out of time. Sometimes you do run out of time. And, you know, like, if they, can you imagine, like I don't think this is going to happen, but I could see it happening. Can you imagine if we get to the trade deadline and like Tyler Myers is still a Canuck.

Then what the hell do we just go through? Or Evander Cain is still a Connard. I was just going to say, I prepared for Evander Cain being a Vancouver Canuck on Friday evening. I think they'll move him. Based on the reports, I think they'll be able to move him. Here's the thing about reports on the trade deadline.

But I thought they'd be able to move like Dan Hamhus and Redim Verbata and Pew Souter and Brock Besser. I thought they'd be able to move those guys. The crazy part about Kane is that he's still playing with regularity. He actually did, like he was the spokesperson for the team last night. He did postgame media availability. That was crazy. When he's the guy talking about the future of the team or how the team has to respond.

And I realize he scored the only goal. Sure. And it was probably, maybe he's a guy. He's like, Kane or you're up. Like, it's probably part of that. I'm not saying that there was some. He's a well-spoken guy, too. I'm not saying there was some great unveil yesterday with him,

but I'm just saying, like, he's still a fully functioning member of the team who's out there doing the business on a nightly basis. Like, Myers is out of the lineup. Cain's in the lineup. I don't think the Myers thing is getting over the line either, by the way. That very... The Dallas thing is, like, they didn't offer nearly as much as Detroit and... That very much strikes me as a...

You know what? This might be too much, and it might be too rushed. Let's just wait until the summer. The old kick the can down the road approach, which has always done this organization well. Save it for later. Just do it later. I mean, to be fair,

we all run our lives like that as well. Aaron the Brewer, what we learned. I'm talking about our show in general. Not people listening. We're not successful. What we learned, I learned, PD is the working class hero. Think about it.

He started a new job and was a glorious overachiever. He fooled management into thinking he was ready for a high pay. opportunity and got a position within the company that he isn't qualified for. Now he has mailed it in and is just looking forward to golf season and some summer vacation. Not all heroes wear capes. You know, I haven't even thought about it. He's living the dream. I mean, I respect it. He's sticking it to those billionaires. If Petey could work from home, he'd work from home, for sure.

Is there any way I could run the power play via Zoom? That was a sad moment. by the way, yesterday, one of the many sad moments, when the Canucks strung together some passes on the power play. Like, they didn't score, but they strung some passes together on the power play

and it was like, that's the positive to take from the game. There was a couple zips. I was like, does anyone watch other NHL teams? Like, those teams are, they, man, they string passes together. He didn't even get a shot on net. He finished plus. You know what? Finnshing? You know what? Finnshing

I was single shot. Yeah, it took about three seconds to load up one shot. Finishing plus one when you lose 6-1 is actually kind of impressive. Adam from Bowen, what we learned. Marco Rossi might be our only good forward. He was minus three last year. Are you sure? He wasn't.

I haven't seen anything from Rossi. I'm not ready. I know you aren't. I'm not either. I'm not ready to write them off yet. No, no. I'm not ready to put any stock in anything anybody does for the remainder of the year because everyone is like not trying and checked out.

But don't you think Rossi should be like, I want to make a good impression here. How much can he feasibly do with the guys that he's playing with right now? Any of the guys that have done anything in the NHL right now are so checked out. They're just going through the motions. Like Garland and Besser and DeBrusk. They're just like, get me out of here. Or let's get this season over with one of the two, right?

You read that Alster with the 318 and 4 one, right? There's another stat that went around last night. And I believe the Canucks are now 2.30. and one this season when trailing going into the third period. So that in 33 games, they're 2, 30, and 1. And a lot of those came on home ice.

So like not even the semblance of putting up a fight in the third period. And I know they're on the tank and this is what a rebuild looks like. You guys wanted this and keep yelling it from a mountaintop, dear texters. But at a certain point, and I think it'll probably come after this year,

they're going to have to take a good, long, hard look at the way that they're losing games and the way that they're tanking. Couldn't it come after two more years later? Just to do it for two more years? If all you're concerned about is getting to the bottom and being the worst team in the NHL on points and with the fewest wins, there are a lot of different ways you can go about that. You can field an AHL team that's fighting like crazy and working its ass off and showing something. You still have a ticket buying public. Like last night, there was no.

no point to what they did last night other than they put another L on the there was no point to it nobody was really doing anything other than like what Todd McClellan said about the red wings they were all just a bunch of jerseys out there was just a bunch of laundry

moving around right yeah until the time was up and the buzzer the horn sounded and then they went home that was it Wadi and Cloverdale what we learned I learned that black seats were a great idea for the rebuild because you can't tell on TV how many of them are empty It is a tougher

It is tougher You know I grew up in the days of the reds Huh? Did you say it's a tougher? Yes, I said it. I can't confirm It is tougher.

You said it's a tougher. Okay. I grew up in the day of You know, red and blue seats at the Pacific Coliseum. Yep. Really easy. You could see them.

Really easy. Remember those powder blue seats at BC Place? Yeah. That was a good look. We need something that pops It brightens up on screen It's like this place will be sold out every game, right?

And it was for sure Okay Yeah everyone's just wearing all black It was actually a cello right now Don't worry about it They're just all black It's so slimming Yeah

Everyone looks great Yeah everyone looks terrific Okay music means we gotta say goodbye for today Thank you all for listening And thank you all for contributing We will be back tomorrow For the same song and dance For now though

We gotta say goodbye Signing off I have been Mike Alfred He's been Jason Brough He's been Adog, he's been Laddie. This has been the Halford-Inbubb Show on Sportsnet, 650.