Halford & Brough in the Morning - Landon Talks Canucks + What We Learned

Episode Date: January 20, 2026

In hour 3, Landon Ferraro joins (10:50) to chat about the Canucks culture issues and Adam Foote's comments last night. 11 straight losses has led to frustration, how does the team bounce back? After Sherwood has been traded, who is next? After, the guys get into What We Learned, where they go over what they learned in the world of sports, before turning to some listener submissions. This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Last night's didn't really pan out. I said keep an eye on Teddy Bluger. Did not play. Tonight, Dodds was much better. What was Dodds? Schaefer. Yeah, it was better. Really easy to keep your eye on Bluger.

Hey. Sitting there in the chair up in the booth. I thought he said he said he had a chance to coming back last night. By the way, that was one of the things Alvin said yesterday that Bluger and Heidel are expected to play this week. Keep an eye on that. Anyway, tonight, I mean, you can watch,

I got two. Quinn Hughes and the Minnesota Wilde who were beating the brakes off the Toronto Maple Leafs yesterday until the least minute relatively close late. They are back in action tonight and a very tantalizing affair against the Montreal Canadian in Montreal.

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don't ask for that deal. Anyway, we got some programming notes to pass along. Tomorrow, in addition to our usual guests, we're working on getting Sarah Nurse from Vancouver Goldenize on the show. Thursday,

and I didn't realize this, but they don't do media on Thursday. So we're going to try and do a preview on Wednesday. The second of their back-to-back against her old team, Toronto, she returned from injury to play them the other night in a 2-1 loss, although she scored the first goal in that game.

And there's a lot going on in the PWHL right now that we haven't kept tabs on. Vancouver was involved in the biggest trade in franchise history, a six-player trade on Sunday night, and then shortly thereafter. That was a shake-up trade, for sure. The old three-for-three. Yeah.

And then after that, got shaking this team up, the league. We were supposed to win this thing. The league for near last. Yeah, that's what you do. You do a three-for-three trade. A bunch of Olympians changing hands in there. Although I made the mistake of saying there was an Russian Olympian involved in the trade, but no Russians at the Olympics.

Anyway, also, the day after that, the PWHL set another record. The longest suspension and harshest suspension in the three-year history of the league. New York Silence, New York Sirens forward, Taylor Gerard got a four-gamer for leaving the bench to join in an altercation.

She is now my favorite player. Yeah, so there you go. So we're going to try and get Sarah Nurse on the program tomorrow, in addition to everything else ahead of Thursday's game. I want to talk to her about the Olympics because that Canadian. That's the other big story here. That Canadian team struggled in the warm up series against

the Americans. Oh, and then there was the U-18s that the Americans also beat the Canadians in. So we've got some issues here. Is it time for a summit? I don't know. Usually one loss triggers a summit, but two losses at two different levels. I don't know. But yeah, that's going to be... They'll play the Americans at least once

in Italy because remember how they have the groups in the women's tournament. It's not the same as the men's. There's like an A group and a B group, which does show you the lack of competitive balance in women's international hockey. They don't want Canada or the Americans to play Italy. Right. So pretty clear because it would be a lot to nothing. And just for scheduling purposes on that front, they are now eight days away from their Olympic break in the PWHL.

So the Golden Knights have a bunch of games coming up, including that Thursday game against Toronto. Then they go earlier than the NHLers, but they go to break. So that would have been, yeah, eight days time before we get to see men's and women's taking off for the Olympics. So there you go. Okay. We got a couple minutes here

before we get Landon Ferraro on the program. Lots to get into from last night's game, both the game itself, which you were in attendance for, sitting in Jen Pop. How are your seats, by the way? They were good. I mean, I'm not sitting upper deck, Jen Pop. Come on.

Let's be honest. I hope someone was watching. The dismissiveness in which he said it. You got to sell it is the thing. Anyway, go on. I actually, honestly, prefer to set up high. But not with those people. The Canucks have now lost

eight in a row in regular. Actually, we should talk more about that. Not getting a loser point. It's pretty impressive. They have not won a game in the calendar year, 2006. They did take Seattle to a shootout, though.

So they even got through overtime against the Seattle crack and then lost in the shootout. They didn't make it through overtime against the Boston Bruins the following night. And then they went out on the road and lost all six. games and they scored on that road trip in six games they scored nine goals and then they came home they lost six nothing to Edmonton and lost four three to the New York Islanders.

They have six games left on this homestand and it starts Wednesday against the Washington Capitals. New Jersey here is here on Friday and there were some news about Luke Hughes, wasn't there? Luke Hughes is believed to have suffered a... Dislocated shoulder. Dislocated shoulder, thank you. Yeah. I don't think it's been confirmed by the Devils yet,

though I haven't checked, but Frank Saravelli had the report last night that Hughes will be out. That was one of the stories that came across last night that Hughes will be out with the dislocated shoulder. It's been a very, underlying, very difficult season for Luke Hughes and the New Jersey Devils.

If you were to come up with a big three of dysfunctional teams, would it be the Canucks, Rangers, and Devils? Yeah, devils are in there. The senators would maybe be on the outside looking in. I think the Sends would be on the outside. I think New Jersey has been more dysfunctional. I got in trouble doing a Mount Rushmore yesterday.

That's true, actually. I'm asking you for a big three. The big three of dysfunctional teams in the NHL, I think you would definitely have to put the Rangers. Ding. You would have to put the Canucks. Ding. And then it's always the final decision.

It's got to be a lot of one. It's got to be awesome. I think it's New Jersey. The, their fan, The Linus Allmark situation, I think, puts them one notch above. And the statement and everything. And the goaltending in general, with Jake Sanderson actually calling out his own goalie?

Yeah. That was crazy, by the way. That was crazy. We played it yesterday. I'd never heard it before. I don't know if we'll ever hear it again. Jake Sanderson said, you need to make more than 10 saves. You know what I thought was the craziest part of it?

And then what's the kid's name? Levi Marlinan. Yeah, he was like, I did make more. than 10 saves. 13. You know what I'm most shocked by? Sanderson hasn't been forced to issue a half-hearted apology yet. Yeah.

I just assumed that's coming. They're going to make a statement and get a loan to this statement. Seriously. They're looking at their PR department. They're like, you know what to do. You know what we're going to have to do here? No, like did everyone not assume that Sanderson was going to be forced to apologize? Like a Zane Perak kind of apology where he doesn't really mean it,

but some of the guys in the room told him to. So he's going to do it anyway? He'll apologize when the safe percentage reaches 870. You're a senator's fan, Zach. I meant to ask you about this yesterday. How is this received by the Sends fans? Are they like way to go, Jake? Thanks for calling them out?

Or they're like, I can't believe you did that. Well, I think that the comment wasn't necessarily received well, but it does largely express the frustration of the fan base. I mean, this is a season where the team has largely been playing pretty well. And you're getting sued by the third worst save percentage ever by a team, only beating out the Ottawa senators and the Ottawa senators in history. I saw those, the early 90 senators were the only team. Notably really good hockey teams.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's wild. I don't know. But don't you think it's unfair to make it to Marilin, who is the third string goalie. He's 23 years old. I know he's a professional hockey player. But imagine if one of the Canucks had said that about Tolopilo.

I know. That's what I'm saying. And it wouldn't have been that far as stress. Yeah. You know? He was a victim of playing really well last year, so everyone was like, oh, this 22-year-olds, NHL ready. And then it's like, no, he's not.

It's just, I've never heard. What fan base falls for, like, a small sample size when it comes to goaltending. Not us. Who's your favorite small sample size goalie? Mine was Spencer Martin. He played last night. They lost. Troy Gamble.

Louis DeMing. Louis DeMing. Troy Gamble, if I'm going to win the wayback machine. But did he, can you remember, like, did he have a great small sample size? Yeah, like this guy's going to be unbelievable. Yeah, and then he ran into injury issues, concussion issues. So I'm not mistaken, yeah. How do you remember that? Is that from the book?

Probably. Yeah. I have a lot of useless information in my head. Well, I know you do. Sometimes it becomes useful. Okay. In moments like these. If you go back and look at the numbers, though, not going to lie, they're not going to be that

impressive because it was the 80s. Right. It's like he was awesome. He was rolling. He had like an 875. He cracked 900 once, and it was great. Okay. Let's go to the 80s.

the phone lines now. Connect's analyst Landon Ferraro joins us here on the Halford & Brough Show on SportsNet 650. Morning, Landon, how are you? I'm doing pretty good. Are you guys doing? We're good. Thanks for taking the time to do this as always. We appreciate it. I want to jump right beyond the game yesterday and to the postgame

remarks that Adam Foote made Game 49 of the season it guess it was time finally to call some of the vets to the carpet for their lack of composure on the bench, slamming gates, slamming sticks, bad body language, hang in their heads when you heard the remarks, or maybe you haven't heard them yet,

if you're hearing him for the first time when I'm explaining him to you, what did you think of what Adam Foote had to say, the fact that he said it, and what the rest of the road is going to look like now that it's kind of out there in the ether. Yeah, I just saw pieces of it quickly. A bit of a mess last night getting out of there. So we'll catch the rest of it. But, you know, what I did see and just, I mean, from what we've all been seeing, too,

like it needed to happen. And, you know, like last night, especially early in the game, like, I mean, that first a so-sone goal was beautiful. Like the young guys were working. The young guys were trying to make plays and doing that. And, you know, like, well, I mean, that's great to see. That's what you, like, you have to see. But you also need, like, you need your vets to be leading the way.

You know, Van der Kaine was skating last night and he gets his goal. but, you know, like for this long stretch of losses now especially, but like the intensity hasn't really been there from the veterans. And, you know, with the slamming doors and like stuff like that, it's just what that does is it just shows the young guys that that's how you show that you're not happy with the situation. And that's not the right way to go about it at all. And, you know, it's just not a good look at all.

And, you know, like, I was a guy that was, like, I'd get really mad and I'd slam doors. And it's funny, like, I'd do it. And it's, you know, I know I didn't want to do it anymore, but I'd slam a door again. And then it's, it's like when you have that late night snack and as soon as you're done eating and you're like, why did I do that again? Right? Like, you can't, you just, it brings the team down and you can't have that stuff. And, you know, that's why, you know, I was when I was on with, uh, with Jamie and Drandslit yesterday was, like, to me, I wanted to hear Alvine come out and say,

we're going to strip this down. Like a lot of these, well, not a lot of them, like all of these veterans were brought in and signed and are on this team under very different circumstances. Some of them are going to be okay with the rebuild and just keep working their way through it. Some are not going to be okay with it and don't have the makeup. to be able to put up with losses night after night and be a good example. And I don't think that's anything against that player either. Like it's just like not everyone's meant to be the leader of the team.

Not everyone's meant to be able to handle losses like that, especially when they're later in their career and they're thinking about, you know, I only have a handful of years left. Like, am I really going to spend three of them in this? Yeah. So, like, to me, that's why it's so important to, like, sit the vets down one by one and, like, have that conversation of, like, can we have until the Olympic break to really know, like, are you in or are you out? Because if you're out, we got to figure this out now and move on so that you're in a situation you want to be in. And we have guys in this room that are working in the right direction that we need them to be. So interesting, you talked about.

you know, your habit of slamming doors. And I think, and I think like you kind of nailed it why some guys do it. It's almost like a message you're trying to send. And it's the wrong message, but it probably comes from a good place to show your teammates that you care and you're frustrated. And maybe if you missed a play, you want your teammates to know that you're really upset about missing that play. but all it really does is take the focus away from the game and make it about you and not the team.

When do you think you finally came to that realization? When I fully realized that it wasn't just a once-and-a-while thing because if you blow up once in a while, like, yeah, you're a competitor, things happen. It happens. But when I, you know, especially for me, I mean, I knew I, I was fiery from a very young age. I mean, you guys know my dad. Yeah, I played golf with your dad, so I know.

Oh, and that's almost worse than playing hockey. So, you know, like, I knew it growing up, but by the time I was probably 25 or six, you know, I knew it was something I had to keep an eye on. Like, I just, I couldn't help it and yelling at reps. And especially as I got older, like, honestly, like I said, it was, it was kind of embarrassing when you'd get done with. You're like, it was almost like I'm watching my two-year-old have a temper tantrum. Yes. And it's not all right. And you're right.

A lot of it comes from, you want to show that, you know, I tried to make that play. Or, you know, you turn to puck over and they go and score and you're showing that you're bad. That's not the right way to go about it. And it's, and, you know, it's so easy to say. But, like, the reasoning for it is if you, if you're a guy that is all in, you. for the team and you know blocking shots producing doing what his job is supposed to be you don't need to let the guys know that you're mad that you had that turnover they know you are because they see it every day that you're you're dialed in you're committed to the team and you want to win they know

that you didn't mean to make a mistake now to me as I got older because I oh to answer your question It was almost watching other guys doing it and me looking at it like, well, that's how I look. Like I did the same thing, right? And a lot of it, you're just sitting there. You're now just acting because I know you didn't try and get in the lane. Right. Like it's just such a different thing. And then before, you know, like guys start to get frustrated at it because we're all angry.

Stop slamming doors. Stop throwing little temper tantrums here and there because it doesn't solve any. thing. Just think about the mistake, figure out why it happened. Did you not protect the puck well enough? Did you not shoulder check before? And once you figure that out, do it the next time and make the play. I do want to talk about Van der Kaine's performance last night because, you know, there were still a couple of mistakes here and there, but for the most part, I thought he brought a lot more energy than he had. Where do you think that? that came from.

You know, I definitely agree with you. Like, he, that was the best skating game I've seen out of him for a while. I mean, the couple hits that he had early, but then, what was it, the big one at the end of the second, was it? Like, that one

looked, like, that looked like it hurt, but, you know, I think that seeing Sherwood go and seeing Hughes go. And, again, like, he's a guy that doesn't have a contract for next year. He's, you know, a handful of games away from a thousand. Like, he's, to me, I'm assuming that he's starting to think of, okay, where's my year

finishing? And I need to make sure I'm playing good that whether I'm staying here, that I don't get pushed to the side by young guys, because as more guys start going out, and not that you need to see a signal of a rebuild, like, they've given their signals. it's happening. But you want to make sure that you don't get pushed out. They're going to give more opportunities to young guys as the year goes along and they make more trades.

It's really easy for that veteran that you're not committed to past this year to end up on the fourth line, not on power play. Like I've seen it happen. So to me, it's someone kind of getting a reminder of the writing on the wall and where do you, like how do you want? this year to go. How do you want it to finish out from here? And it showed that he had

a bit of pet back in his step. You think there was any coincidence that Kiefer Sherwood got traded and I'm sure Van der Kaine, well, let's put it this way, I'm sure his agent would like him to go to another team because

you want to have a story to tell for next season and something to sell for next season. He needs to playoffs. He needs to be. He needs to playoffs. He needs the playoffs. Yeah, and that's what I was getting at, right? Like whether it was him not getting moved and staying here,

he needs to be playing well so he doesn't get pushed to the side by young guys. But also he is getting that pep in his step because he needs, like the ideal situation for him is going to a playoff team and showing that, okay, yeah, there might be tough parts during the year, but when it gets to the heavy time of the year, I play good. right like so that's what I'm saying like he he saw sure would go it was the next piece and like all of a sudden he's got some step in his game again um okay so I know you've already been through this because the connects have been it's now 11 straight games for a loss so we're trying to find like new ways to look at the next game but how do you stay motivated in a season like this? does it just at some point come down to personal pride and we can't keep losing this much? Yeah, personal pride, a bit of ego, a bit of selfishness, but in a good way, right?

Like you need guys that, you know, want to work to the, you know, obviously to the common goal of the team and keep trying to improve and improve together. But, you know, as you're going to. through this, like there is, when you're going through a rebuild, like, there is a little bit of selfishness in that. Like, you want to make sure that, because there's a ton of opportunity going around, that you're taking advantage of it. And there's all that internal competition going on of, you know, like all these young guys, like, okay, that guy, you know, Sassone had a nice goal last night and he was really skating. Like, I need to make sure I'm going so that as we

get through this rebuild, like when there are decisions, I've done enough to show that I can be here and be an answer to getting out of the rebuild and all that. You know, it's, you know, just trying to give yourself little goals to get through it. You can't worry about, like, you know, again, I know you enter every game trying to go win it. But you have to, in a sense, like you have to take. away the end result. It sucks. They didn't get a point out of last night.

They played pretty good. But it didn't happen. But there was still a lot of really good pieces to pull out of that game. Are there pieces that they definitely need to continue to look at and continue to work on, especially with the young guys and then kind of dealing with some of the older things as well. Of course. But you can't, you know, like when you have this. much losing, you can't just have it be so outcome oriented, especially for the young guys,

because it is really draining to lose this many games in a row. It really is. And it's depressing hit points. You feel like you're never going to get out of it. But just giving like those little goals. I know it sounds so dumb, but like it's, you have to do it because you have to keep, especially the young guys, really focused on different things to keep. them dialed in and giving them little checkpoints. So it's not just, hey, we want you to work on your defensive game. And then after six games, he's like, okay, like, I think I've, I think I've been pretty good, but like, I don't know.

I got scored on four times, but none of them were really my fault. Right? Like, it's a hard thing to gauge. So, like, that's why I keep saying it, but I truly believe it is, like, you have to give all those guys, like, little goals all the way through. Some of them give it for every two games or so. Like at Carlson, you could give them something for three or four games. A booing them, I'm giving them something for every period.

And then having Dean check in with them, like one or two things. Just keep giving them and keep a tally on it. Like let them have like another, like a little side game almost. Like create, you have to create some fun in all of this mess. Well, I thought DPD last night. You know, he didn't play all that much, and you can tell when you're watching him. He doesn't always know exactly where he should be on the ice, and it's the little details that he's going to have to learn.

But I thought he had some good moments. I mean, that was a bomb of a shot that came, tipped in. That was a great shot. And there were a few moments where he was having some really good battles with guys in front of the net and into the corner. And maybe that's something else that you look for. you know they're not going to play a perfect game, but do you have some confidence-inspiring moments in these games?

Exactly, right? Like, for what you're saying, I think that's exactly why I want, like, or think it's a good idea to have all those little meetings individually with those guys. Because you can't sit down William, Volander, and D.P.D. and give them a couple goals for the game.

They play three completely different games. Right? Like for PD, it would be, you know, something as simple as closing fast in D zone and being decisive in your decision. Like make your decision and stick to it. Don't second guess. Yeah, don't hold on to a puck too long. If you see a pass, make it. Exactly. But again, but don't, you can't give five things at once. Like start with one or two. And then when he does those a couple periods in a row, like, hey, awesome, you nailed it. Now let's work on, like, focus on this. Like, keep giving them something to re-engage on.

But while you're doing that, not only is it making him stay in the game and really focus on something, but it's also giving them an opportunity while they lose a game that he has some little wins in it. So when he goes home that night, he's not happy they lost. But he can still, in the back of his mind, feel a little good. like, hey, like, yeah, you know, I might have messed up here, but, you know, I did this, this and this good. Like, that's a decent step, right? So you have to create some, and it's not false wins, but you have to fabricate some and let

them feel good about themselves because it's so easy for, especially a young kid, to only look at, we lost 4-3 and we lost 6-0 the night before. Landon, this was great, ma'am. time to do it. We really appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the week in the games this week. Yeah, you too. Thanks. Have a good one. Landon-Farro here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. We've got to go to break. When we come back, it's what we learn time. You're listening to the favorite part of the show. What's that I say? Talk to the audience. Oh, God. This is always dead. It's what we learn time. It's what we learn time. It's what we learn time.

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Don't worry, they'll do it soon. There is a much better alternative for that. We're going to have a chat after the show already. That's why you call Sanz and Associates before they got off your phone, of course. Okay. I guess we should do our what we learns. I'm going to start. I'm going to take the lead, although everyone has one, I think.

I learned that the San Francisco 49ers, in addition to losing on the weekend to the Seattle Seahawks, have now lost their prize defensive coordinator. I guess congratulations are in order to Robert Sala, who's getting a second bite at the apple as a head coach. I think he's a good coach. To be determined, I think he's a good coordinator. I don't know if he's a good head coach. But he's going to get a chance. He is the new head coach of the Tennessee Titans, the Tidians.

Tidian. It's a nice painting of a... Anyway, I will say this. Broad on a couch. Old SNL, we're old, all right, keep going. So, the story to me might not even be about Sala getting a promotion in this shiny new job in Tennessee, but leaving divisional rivals San Francisco.

That's right from the Seattle Seahawks perspective. I'm going to be very curious to see how this plays out for the 49ers and Kyle Shanahan. I'll remind you that Salah, this is the second time that he's left Shanahan and the 49ers. He left them back in 2021 when he was the defensive coordinator to take the head coaching job with the Jets. Now, after he left, the 49ers were like, no problem. They elevated D. Miko Ryans to the defensive coordinator. Great promotion.

He was a fantastic D.C., but he left to, of course, take the Houston Texan job. Since then, it's been a mixed bag for Kyle Shanahan when it comes to high. hiring defensive coordinators. He was a one and done unsuccessfully with both Steve Wilkes and Nick Sorensen. Then when Salah became reavailable after getting fired by the Jets, Sala came back. It was a weird year because the numbers don't really play out that they were an elite defense. But everyone understood that because they were so deceived by injury,

everyone agrees that Sala did a great job with that defense given how many injuries they suffered. I don't know where they go next. All I know is that Kyle Shanahan and the Niners. are going to have to find their fifth defensive coordinator in the last five years. Okay, so the teams without a head coach are Arizona. Correct. Baltimore?

Correct. Buffalo? Keep going. Cleveland. Yep. Pittsburgh? Mm-hmm. And this might lead us into Zach's what we learned, the Las Vegas Raiders.

Butta boom. Okay, give us a moo cow on Halford's what we learned. Now we're going to Zach, who might tell. talk about a player who's going to be on the Raiders. I completely agree because last night the Indiana Hoosiers end up winning the national championship over the Miami Hurricanes in a game led by Fernando Mendoza. In my opinion, that beyond solidified his status is the number one

overall draft pick to the Raiders. So Indiana is the national champion in football? College football? Football. No, but in football. Football. In football. How do you think the people in Notre Dame are feeling, by the way?

Pretty cheese, that would imagine. Yeah. It's like Indiana, that's a basketball school. The Hoosiers? The Hoosiers won a football title? I think they have the most losses of any long-term football program, the Indiana Hoosiers. Yep. And I guess Curtis Roark got him over the hump.

That was it. Yeah. Help them there. And that his replacement. But yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess Fernando got him over the hump. Yeah.

You know. Mendoza! I was the only reason we wanted to do this story. So we could get the Mendoza drop. It's a good game. Was it a good game? I wasn't able to watch it. Very entertaining contest.

Miami cut it to a one possession game late. And then Mendoza and the Hoosiers didn't quite run out of the clock, but they ran it down and kicked a field goal to the point where, although Miami was marching at the end, it was a late game interception by 37-year-old collegiate quarterback, Carson Beck, that ended it for the hurricane. So congrats to Kurt Signetti,

who's a very interesting character. and the Indiana. What's his story? He was. He was the son of a famed college coach. I want to say he coached to Pitt. Okay. It was either Pitt or West Virginia,

one of those Appalachian schools. But anyway, he coached there. Full of coal miners. That's right. Just smoking cigarettes since the day you were born. He bounced around. He was part of the Nick Sabin coaching tree. His most recent head coaching job prior to Indiana was it James Madison,

who of course featured in this. year's collegiate football playoff. They were terrific. They weren't great. But yeah, he went there and made a name for himself and then of course came to Indiana. His famous line was when he got there and you know, Indiana wasn't exactly a story. Yeah, yeah. He said, Google me to

in case anyone want to know what Kurt Signetti was all about. Okay. Yeah. He was born in Pittsburgh by the way. He played at West Virginia. But I think his dad coached at Pitt. Yeah. So they have it. Okay. And that's the story. Mooka that. Does anybody else have one?

Laddie, did you have one? I don't have one that I can riff off from the inbox. So we can let the... Let's save it. We'll fire up the dot matrix. Print out some humanoid submissions for what we learned. What we learned is always brought to by AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. Our favorite AJ's sauce pie, an upside down version of the bar pie with fresh mozzarella and basil order online at AJ's pizza.

Or AJ's dot pizza, sorry. Go ahead. Jay in West Van, what we learned, it's funny that the baseball term, eye wash. has never crossed over to other sports. But anyways, the Canucks are suffering from an eyewash epidemic. You didn't know what it was. I'd never heard this. I'd never heard this term.

But what it means is doing things just for the sake of making sure that everyone knows what you're doing. And an example would be fake hustle. Fake hustle. Right? Which as a kid, I don't want to brag. but I was an expert at. Elite. Now, I thought I was an expert at it. Now watching and having coached some minor hockey and kids that are 11 and 12,

I know that you're faking. And it's not making me help me love your game. Like kids on the back check that really, really just like, oh, look how hard I'm skating. Yeah. But your feet aren't. really moving that fast, are they? Like your arms are going.

Yeah. Your arms are going and you kind of look like you're skating hard on the back check, but I know you're not skating hard on the back check. I think eyewash though might like cover more than just fake hustle, but I love this phrase and I cannot believe I didn't know it. It's too close to face wash. Okay. There's too many washes already. Okay. I'm surprised you don't follow baseball I've never heard of it. It's right up there with red ass. Is that a game we should play? No, no, that's a baseball term for a guy that always gets fired up and is too hot under the collar.

There's a lot of them in baseball, as a matter of. They've had a few years to come up with some slang terms. Iwash, though, is working hard for the appearance of working hard. And the younger generation has, like you said, really grasped onto and thrive. Because at a certain point... Well, I think kids in general do it. I don't think it is about the current generation

because I was doing it back in the 80s. But I do have a theory that why it's more prevalent now, is that we started taking hard work for granted. When people started to say that hard work became a skill and an attribute instead of something that everybody was supposed to do, that kids were like, well, I don't have it naturally. I'm not a hard worker by trade.

It's not in my DNA to be a hard worker. But if they're looking for it, I can show it to them. That's my theory on it. There's an article in the athletic about eyewash. and I've only read a bit of it because I'm trying to host of a radio show here but here's a paragraph in baseball eye wash is everywhere

it's the world series level effort of hustle on every routine infield pop up during the regular season an outfielder diving for a ball that lands 10 feet in front of them could be eyewash a coach putting on more of a disciplinarian

effect when the general manager is on the field would probably solicit some allegations of eyewash So you know what's an underrated baseball one is especially when you're wearing your whites, when you get them dirty. Get that thing dirty. Right? A lot of guys will find a reason to dive into the dirt.

Like, you had no chance to get that ball. There's no throw on that steel. You know what? You slayed in. Yeah, that's a big one too. Yeah, that's good. Who sent that in? That was a very good tax.

Jay and West Van. Yeah, very well done. Chaiton and Surrey, what we learned, hearing Foote's comments about the veterans made me think of three players in particular. Miller, Petey, and Hughes. Miller had numerous outbursts when things got tough. He was a bit of an eyewash guy. Yep. Petey goes in a funk and Hughes this season with his body language.

Two of the three are gone. One left to go to hopefully change this culture. Those three? Yeah. That was your leadership group. Yeah. Yep. That was that.

And I think, listen, I think you and I have both said that if we were in the position, our character would have been questioned. Yeah, 100%. It takes a special type of personality. Well, I also want to add it. But you need to keep the bar high when you're talking about who are going to be your best players and who are you going to be your leaders. And hopefully your leaders are mostly comprised of your best players.

But remember, for one glorious season, it all worked. It all worked. Didn't last the whole thing, man. But that's not what I'm saying. it didn't last the whole season. That's what I'm saying. What do you mean? They did it as well as they could under the circumstances. No, man, they can't, no, they didn't. They didn't. They came apart that season. They had a, they had a,

Pedersen fell apart. And that re-ignited the, the feud. And Pedersen's performance in the playoffs was bizarre. And I think that's what really reignited the feud. And then, you know, when he came back and he wasn't in shape, J.T. Miller reacted. And in a typical J.T. fashion, he overreacted. And in some ways, I think the club enabled it. Well, the club encouraged it. Yeah. Yeah. Not even enabled it. What if? Pushed them on it. What if?

As a leader. We're old school here. Let's, you know. We made you the head of accountability. JT's like, I'll do it. I love accountability. And they're like, we regret everything we did here. A painter in Lanceville. What we learned, I learned today that ad reads are affecting

my life. A friend said, Bada Bing, Bada Boom, and I immediately blurted out Fiji vacation. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Becoming a good thing. Lattie loves that one. You say it all the time.

Well, they always mention there's an ad read on the traffic report now about going to Fiji. And every time she mentions it, I get on the headset. Bada boom, bada bing, baby. Bada bada bama. Oh, sorry. Get it right. Bada bambu. What are we doing here?

You're not going to be. Does East Side Marios have that trademarked or something? You got to flip it around. There's no Eastside Marios in Fiji. Chaiton and Surrey, hashtag WWW, what we learned. Canada soccer setting up their run to the World Cup is very underwhelming in terms of opponents to get the squad ready for the tournament. The U.S. will be hosting Portugal, Belgium, Senegal, and Germany. Real tests.

I have felt since Copa that the Canadian team has stagnated. Canada's got Tunisia and Iceland. And Haiti. That just got announced today. Okay. So here's the thing. Iceland kind of fallen off in the last few years. Well, they're not going to the World Cup, right?

Yeah, yeah. At least, like, Tunisia and Haiti are going. I thought they'd have the depth, you know, with 200,000 people living there or whatever. I know. It is, I did wonder if that was going to be a golden generation for them or if they had found some sort of, like, weird elixir. But it proved.

The country's tiny. They did it once. I don't know. Anyway, point being, back to Chaiton's text here, I did listen to Jesse Marsh's media availability throughout the week where they had Camp Putin. which I did not care for as a moniker and I kind of wish they didn't do it

but they did and they really leaned into it but whatever camp Poutine was the week I hate saying it was the week long camp that they had they culminated with the game against Guatemala yeah yeah yeah so he was talking guys we're looking a little sluggish out there is it old of Poutine reading

could you come up with anything anything other than Jesse Marsh is acting more Canadian than Canadians I know I know it's it's a little put on It's Canadian eyewash. It's a little eye wash. It's a little.

It's eye wash. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like, Canadian eyewash. Next week is Camp Beavertail. Like I don't. I don't.

It's too much. Anyway, he said, and I did buy what he was saying in this one, the logistical nightmare it is to try and come up with an international schedule when you're not qualifying for the World Cup. Because not only do you not have matches schedule, for you. A lot of the teams that you want to play against are playing matches to get into the World Cup. Yeah. A lot of the other ones already have their international schedule set. Here's the other thing.

It costs money to go abroad and play these matches. Yeah. And I don't if you're aware of this enough, but Canada soccer, you're not exactly flush with cash. They're not super. Really? They're not super liquid. You know, they don't have a bunch of money sitting around. You go to Romania. They didn't have So you got to bring They made a bad deal So you got to bring people in And you got to kind of So they're hosting this like sort of weird

Like hybrid tournament almost where Yeah I think like Haiti and Tunisia are going to play each other On Canadian soil So you can get all these teams together So I do understand that there's logistical issues And it's hard to find like I think that US soccer's got a lot easier

Like come to America Germany and Portugal and play matches And you know it's a lot different in terms of What you're able to do They're stick handling through it but I mean I don't necessarily hate the opponents I think it's all right Speaking of World Cup qualification

Yeah It's gonna be interesting at Denmark Brexit Yeah it will be Yeah will be I don't if you're aware The geopolitical shakings and movings right now But that's a big one

Yeah Is Denmark in a group They're in a group of four Czech Republic Northern Macedonia and Did Ireland? Ireland? Yeah Ireland plays the

Italy's in another group And the winner of that group plays in Canada's group. Ireland plays the Czechs. And the winner that hosts the winner of Denmark and North Macedonia. Okay. I can't believe I remember that off the top. Because Denmark choked hard, which allowed Scotland to get in. That is correct.

And by the way, there was a report today that a German politician has suggested that Germany pulls out of the World Cup. Oh, I'm sure that'll happen. Definitely. Okay, good way to end the show. We've got to get out of here for today, but we will be back tomorrow. Thank you all for listening and thank you all for contributing. Signing off, I have been Mike Halford. He's been Jason Bruff.

He's been regular Zach and he's been Laddie. This has been the Halford & Brough Show on SportsNine 650.