Halford & Brough in the Morning - Moj Teases "The Dhaliwal Files"

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

In hour two, Mike & Jason talk the latest NHL news (3:00), plus they look back at the BC Lions season and talk a bit of Canucks with radio commentator Bob "The Moj" Marjanovich (27:13). This podcast i...s produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 7-0-1 on a Fiesta Friday here on the Halpern and Brebb show on Sportsnet 650. Halpern and Brebb of the morning is brought to you by Pacific Honda, North Vancouver's premier destination for Honda vehicle sales and service. They have a friendly, knowledgeable staff that can help with anything you're looking for. Sales, financing, service, or parts. We are in hour two of the program.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Got a lot to get into in hour two. Hour two is brought to you by Jason Hominuk from Jason.Mortgage. If you love paying more for your mortgage, then don't let Jason shop around to find the best mortgage for you. Just kidding. Let him do that. Visit him at Jason.mortgage on the internet.
Starting point is 00:00:49 We are coming to you live from the Kintec studio. Kintec Canada's favorite orthotics provider, powered by thousands of five-star Google reviews. What are you waiting for? Kintec. To the phone lines we go. Our next guest is the owner and proprietor of AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. Good friend of the program, AJ joins us now on the Halford & Brough Show
Starting point is 00:01:05 on Sportsnet 650. What up, AJ? What is going on? Happy Friday, Fiesta. Friday. Happy Friday. AJ's is back open today. We've been closed for a week. This is important news. So AJ and I were hanging out last night at East Van Brewing. Shout out to Andy. East Van Brewing's seventh birthday yesterday. We had cake. Oh, he's going to be so happy.
Starting point is 00:01:22 He's going to be so happy right now, assuming he's listening. You had a. Oh, he's going to be so happy. He's going to be so happy right now, assuming he's listening. You had a question for us about how the Halbro experience works and how we do our jobs. Yes, I do, because well, Bruv, too, it's pointing towards you because I know what an astute hockey mind you all have.
Starting point is 00:01:38 And I want to know, though, can you watch the Canucks as a fan, or is there are you always watching it analytically? I do both, I think. You do both? Yeah, I do both. I'm definitely watching it as a fan.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I want them to win, obviously. Right. And especially in the playoffs. But regular season, I'm watching the games with a laptop on my lap, and I'm writing down notes from the game. But I'm also yelling at the TV. Because I think my analysis and our analysis is often from the perspective of a fan.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Like, we like to be fair and objective. But, yeah, I think I probably watch it more as a fan, but I've also got a job to do, right? Right, right. No, and I was just wondering that separation because, right. I'm not like Thomas Drance who's like, I'm not a fan of any team anymore and I won't bet on hockey because I'm so professional. I'm like, no, no, I'm a fan.
Starting point is 00:02:35 I think, you know, going back, you know who the guy that allowed people to be fans of teams but also in the media was Bill Simmons. He was kind of like, he was kind of like the original, the Boston sports guy. And, uh, you know, I don't, I don't listen to, to Simmons podcast much anymore, but he was probably like the biggest influence on me when he was starting out, I wanted to get into the business. And then, you know, you meet other guys along the way that are doing it the same way. Greg Wyshynski not afraid to say that he's a doubles fan but he's also a pretty serious reporter and at the end of the day you have to be objective and people will call you on whether you're objective or not um but I don't think it's the end of the world to be like
Starting point is 00:03:20 hey I'm a fan of this team I want them to to do well. Right, right. Okay, great. That was, you know what? That was an awesome answer. Very well said. Great question. Wow. Great ask is anything. Great answer. Maybe I win the GC.
Starting point is 00:03:32 Yeah. Well, I've been closed for a week. I've got to eat. Jason just won $100 to AJ's. Congratulations, Jason. Okay, AJ, that's it. So you guys are back open for business. Dine-in, takeout, delivery, all of it.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And then this weekend, obviously, Canucks game on Saturday and Sunday, a bunch of NFL. So it's a good time to go by AJ's. Yeah, thank you. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be a fun weekend. Obviously, always happy hour all day on Sunday. And yeah, we're back.
Starting point is 00:03:55 We're back, baby. Beautiful. Thanks, buddy. We'll talk again next Friday. Everybody take care. See you later. AJ from AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. Happy hour starts today at 2.30, goes till 5.30.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Saturday, $6 pints from East Van Brewing. And then Sunday, of course, you got happy hour all day so you can watch all the football you want and eat all the pizza and drink all the beer you want. Ask us anything here. After work, are you nap guys? The answer, yes. Joining us now on the phone,
Starting point is 00:04:21 Jack Michaels in a moment here. Oh, and he's working on that one. It's the Oilers tomorrow night and as much as I don't want to place too much emphasis and too much excitement and we are known sometimes as a bit of a hype
Starting point is 00:04:36 machine that can occasionally lead people astray. Occasionally we've gotten excited for things and it's fallen flat but this one this one's different. Look excited for things and it's fallen flat but this one this one's different i mean look i know that the oilers have not gone off to the greatest start to the season it would probably be a little bit cooler from a narrative if this was like first and second place in the pacific division meeting on hockey night canada second game of a doubleheader yeah canucks just sweep california but whatever the case it's still Oilers-Canucks. It's still that rivalry playing itself out, and it's the first meeting
Starting point is 00:05:07 and this season. Oh, and by the way, even though the Canucks' chances would be significantly elevated without Connor McDavid in the lineup, I got to admit, I want to see McDavid. You want that game with McDavid in it, right? Big game, Hockey Night in Canada,
Starting point is 00:05:24 all those things. I'm a little bit worried that the Oilers are going to be in a bad mood and I'm particularly motivated for this game because they're coming off two straight losses at home. They got shut out by the New Jersey Devils, and then the very next game they lost to the Vegas Golden Knights, and there were some players that really didn't play very well in that game. Evan Bouchard probably topping the list. And I hope this game, I hope the players see it as not just one of 82 games.
Starting point is 00:05:56 It's Saturday night, Hockey Night in Canada, two of the best teams in the conference, a rematch of last year's playoff series. I hope it's fast, exciting. I hope it's a little bit nasty. I hope Brock Besser is back for it. Yeah, well, there's that. There's also the fact that Edmonton has an egregiously bad penalty kill,
Starting point is 00:06:16 if you haven't been keeping up to speed with that. And it would be nice to see the Canucks power play. I know it scored yesterday with the five-minute major to Tanner Janot, but it was actually a goal. You know what? By the way, I wanted to jump on this. NHL.com has,
Starting point is 00:06:31 in the box score, all the different designations of what the goal is, like shorthanded power play and everything. They have an own goal designation. I've never seen that before. I've never seen it before.
Starting point is 00:06:41 I saw it last night and Conor Garland, own. Yeah. I'm staring at it and I Conor Garland, own. Yeah. I'm staring at it, and I'm like, what is that? Yeah. And then I went and looked at the abbreviation, it's own goal, but I'm like, when did we start doing this?
Starting point is 00:06:54 When? It's because you don't credit anyone with an own goal in the NHL. Everyone gets credit for it. From the offensive team, I mean. The defensive team never gets the OG hung on it, so I don't know what that was all about. Maybe it's just a designation for descriptors. Would you rather them do it like soccer,
Starting point is 00:07:09 where you see the guy who put it in his own net? Okay. I've thought about this before. So in soccer, the own goal designation, it's very specific, right? If a shot is directed towards goal and a defender slides and it goes in off him but it was going in anyway, that's not an own goal.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Like it's tipped or something like that. That's not an own goal. It is very subjective. It's to the sort of the statistician's eye what it is. But for hockey, no, I don't ever want an own goal for the defensive team. I want the offensive players to always get credit for it. Right. Pad those stats, boys.
Starting point is 00:07:54 Pad those stats. But even when a guy shoots it directly into his net? Right, because, for example— I think, God, back in the day, I want to say Lars Lindgren once tried to clear the puck around behind the net. If any of the older listeners are listening and remember this, I actually don't, I didn't see the goal, but I remember hearing about it.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. And it just went in and they were like, all right, who gets that goal? Right. And you know, when Louis Erickson put it in his own net. Yeah. Right. Someone got credit for that. Yeah. And so that seems weird to me. It's like the last guy that, that goal right and you know when louis erickson put it in his own net yeah right someone got
Starting point is 00:08:25 credit for that yeah and so that seems weird to me it's like the last guy that so so originally the first actual goalie to be credited with a goal was not a goalie that shot the puck into the net right yeah it was a guy that touched it five minutes before it went in. Yeah. I will say this, though, to bringing it back to soccer, like Ryan Gould, for example, if we had gone with traditional NHL scoring, would have had a hat trick
Starting point is 00:08:53 against LAFC because he was the one that whipped in. He scored the first goal, naturally, as a regular goal. The second own goal, that was his cross that got whipped in.
Starting point is 00:09:03 That was a very good finish from, unfortunately, the LAFC defender. That was a tough play for him. It was a tough play. And then the third one, people thought that Brian White got a foot to it, but it was actually Gauld's cut back across the floor that went in off an LAFC defender. So I do kind of like the scoring there.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We're still not getting Jack on the phone. Okay, you know what we can do? This is why we do our prep, everybody. You got to be able to adjust on the phone. OK, you know what we can do? This is why we do our prep, everybody. You got to be able to adjust on the fly. There were a lot of games last night.
Starting point is 00:09:29 We'll go to commercial. Yeah, we're going to take a 12 minute commercial. And we actually have a 20 minute PSA we can fire up if you'd like. There are a bunch of games from last night
Starting point is 00:09:37 that we haven't gotten into yet. It's about lead and paint. Yeah, apparently those are both bad to eat. Just rerun the Mucho Burrito commercial. Just keep running it. We do need to talk about what some of the teams did across the NHL last night,
Starting point is 00:09:49 beginning with the Winnipeg Jets. I feel like instead of saying, ah, we don't really know, we don't pay enough attention to the Jets, and oh, they're not that exciting, the way to make them exciting and to talk about them the most is to lead with them and rightfully lead with them because they are now 13 13 1 and 0 the second team in NHL history to have 13 wins through their first 14 games it came courtesy yesterday
Starting point is 00:10:14 a 1-0 win over the Colorado Avalanche in Winnipeg now it's funny because I was looking at the betting lines prior to this game and I don't think you could have set the over-under any higher. Like, I think the goal line was six and a half. And because, one, the Colorado Avalanche can't defend. They gave up a million goals. And two, both of these teams were two of the highest scoring teams going in. And three, Alexander Georgiev was involved in the game, in which case you always assume there's going to be a minimum of four goals.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Well, it was a low-scoring affair, but the Jets win 1-0. Velarde gets the only goal. Connor Hellebuck has three shutouts already this season, and he's got two now in back-to-back games because they beat Utah 3-0 the game before. We're kind of running out of superlatives to throw at the Jets. All I know is that when you go back in the history of the NHL and you look at teams that have gotten off to this hot of a start,
Starting point is 00:11:09 very few of them fall off. Oh, I was going to say they're idiots for peaking too early. No, most of them are. This is like a good enough sample size where you say they are going to be a contender. And part of it is that Hellebuck is playing at a ridiculously high level right now.
Starting point is 00:11:26 He's the best goalie in the NHL. Is there any real debate about that? Is someone going to put forth that there might be another guy? Like he's the best goalie in the NHL right now. I also just think that if you look at their lineup in general, they're not really lacking anything. Josh Morrissey has turned into a number one defenseman. They've got good centers.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Mark Scheifele is a good 1C. I don't know if he's up there with the best of the best, but he's a pretty good player. And then you've got the players that you picked up in some trades, guys like Gabe Velarde. Um, and, um,
Starting point is 00:12:08 the one guy that I think probably doesn't get enough attention because he plays in Winnipeg is Kyle Connor is one of the best goal scorers in the league. And he's a, he's devastating player. If you want to talk about, cause we talked about the, the Canucks maybe having the best forward depth in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:12:27 If there's one team that they might not have better forward depth in, it's the Winnipeg Jets. If you go look at how balanced their scoring is, with top guys doing top guy things, Connor and Shifley are at 19 and 18 points, so they're above a point a game guy. But you go down the list, guys in double-digit points for them right now, Lowry, Perfetti, Appleton, Nemesnikov's nearly there,
Starting point is 00:12:47 Niederreiter's having a good year. They are getting production from all their forward lines. Big reason why they're 13-1 through 14 games. What do you think they're going to do with Nikolai Ehlers? Because he's putting up points, and he's a pending UFA. So he's been rumored to be on the trade block for what? Five years? It's like the Jonathan David transfer rumors.
Starting point is 00:13:08 It feels like he's been a trade candidate for the last four years. It was especially this offseason, I think, because of his contract situation. He just came back to Winnipeg. He's like, I'm here still, guys. I would be... Are the Jets the type of a team... The Jets are the type of team that would keep him.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. They always keep their guys. They're like, do you want to stay here? Really? type of team that would keep him. Yeah. They always keep their guys. They're like, do you want to stay here? Really? And then they sign them. Well, they don't always keep their guys. There's a lot of guys that have forced their way out of Winnipeg. But I just wonder about the trade deadline.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Are they the type of team that can afford to be like, all right, we'll risk losing him for nothing in the offseason? Sorry, I should rephrase that. They keep the guy. If a guy shows any interest in wanting to stay there they're like okay great yeah but he clearly hasn't really shown any interest because he hasn't resigned i think i think a good healthy year and a run might change things i don't know you're right like they might not be the kind of team that can afford to let this thing play out but if they're let's say hypothetically speaking we get
Starting point is 00:14:02 to 2025 and they're, I mean, they're not on a 72 win clip like they are right now, but they're tops in the division and they look like they're going to be a legit contender. You can't sell, you can't move him on. You almost have to say like,
Starting point is 00:14:17 he'll be our own rental. And if he walks in the off season, he walks, we're still a long ways away from that. But he also needs to stay healthy. That's been the one thing with him throughout his time is that when he's healthy he's always been effective but he's had a hard time staying healthy part of it part of it with ehlers too is that throughout his entire time in winnipeg he's also been the second second guy he's never been the number one a option yeah
Starting point is 00:14:38 um he's seemingly been okay with it in winnipeg but he's one of those players that you know if he goes to another team and um he gets those, top minutes, there's a higher ceiling there. Yeah. The other score that really stood out to me last night is Florida whooping Nashville six to two. The Preds are now four, nine and one on the season. And I think you noted on Twitter that the Jets are 17 points ahead of them. I took a screen graph of the standings in the Central Division. 17 points. We are, what are we, 14 games into the season? Yeah, they both played 14 games, Winnipeg and Nashville.
Starting point is 00:15:21 The Preds are last in the NHL. They're the only team without double digit points they've got nine points san jose is 10 do you understand how hard it is to be 17 points back of someone 14 games into a season nashville has nine winnipeg has 26 it's crazy like i i'm trying to remember someone on Twitter pointed out that the Canucks got off to a pretty big gap between themselves and the Oilers last year. I don't think it hit 17 points, but it was a big gap. But this is, it's actually funny. I tweeted out, I'm like, this is borderline hilarious.
Starting point is 00:15:57 That a team that went and spent billions of dollars in the summer to get Stamkos and Marcheseau and Brady Shea is now 17 points out of first place in their division. They're 17 points back minus 17 goal differential. They're horrible. Awful. And I do, we played the audio yesterday of Barry Trotz. Do they always get like 14 shots on net or something? Yeah, so. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Luke Shen called it out of all people because he's probably one of the guys shooting from the perimeter. Shen was like like all we do is stand around on the outside and fling pucks on net and ryan o'reilly said the same thing he's like no one is getting inside or getting close to the net we're just sort of this perimeter team stammer's just lining up in his power play spot the whole time i thought this is what you paid me to do not in five and five steven come on i'm not going in there and like i i don't know i don't know where the patience level is because i know trots what he said publicly but i kind of rolled my eyes when he said i'm like
Starting point is 00:16:55 you're not blowing the team up after 14 games stamkos's ego must have taken a real shot when the lightning essentially said we're choosing jake genzel over you and then he goes to nashville and the light or the and the preds are a complete disaster so pour one out for steven stamkos's ego yeah and stamkos is struggling there's no two ways about it now you mentioned the team is minus 17 goal differential so everyone's got a ghastly plus minus i love plus minus. I love plus minus as a stat because I know the old school guys look at it and they're like, that's not good.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Steve Samkos is minus 11 through 14 games. And he's got four rules. Like it's just not even close to good enough. And I'd say there's, you're going gonna allow him some leeway because it's brand new environment he played his entire life in tampa bay he's on the wrong side of 30 like you know at the same time step goes to hall of fame caliber guy this is i think what you said probably massively deflating to his ego and to his confidence that it's going this badly. By the way, thank you for all the people that texted in confirmation of the Lars Lindgren own goal.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Someone texted in, unsigned text, that Lars Lindgren own goal you guys mentioned happened in Edmonton. Vancouver was up by a goal with 12 seconds left in the game and won the draw. Lars went to rim it around the boards, but hammered it into his own net. Bravo. That happened in 1982.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's a timely reference from the Halford and Brough. That was the year after the season they went to the Stanley Cup final against the New York Islanders. And after they went to the final against the New York Islanders, things got worse, decidedly. Bathman texts in with an ask us anything. Ask us anything.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Who the hell is that third guy that just started talking? That's a rash. We should have mentioned. We only did it right off the top, but we should have done it at the 7 o'clock hour. Laddie is out ill, taking a three-day weekend. Classic Laddie. So a rash.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, it just happens to be a three-day weekend. Classic Laddie. So a rash. It just happens to be a three-day holiday on Monday. Four-day weekend for Laddie. By the way, guess who was credited for the goal on the Lars Lindgren own goal? I don't know. Marc Messier. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:19:20 Because he took the face off. The moose was in there taking the face off and then he elbowed Lars Lindgren right in the nose. Don't say that name on this show. Don't do it. So I'm assuming that the Jack Michaels experiment isn't going to come to fruition. He is probably asleep.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, that's fair. We can do a fine enough job talking about the Oilers leading in to tomorrow's game. We've got a few minutes here. A friendly reminder. We'll do a quick reset. It is Ask Us Anything Friday on the program. Ask us anything to what we learned. If you put a pizza emoji
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Starting point is 00:20:24 You better not call it 817 yeah or even think about 813 no here's an ask us anything from the flash from Langley
Starting point is 00:20:32 with talk of Team USA for the Four Nations this week who do you think will be their captain Austin Matthews Kachuk John Carlson
Starting point is 00:20:42 Quinn Hughes JT Miller wow great question there really isn't an obvious one in there like with Canada Chuck, John Carlson, Quinn Hughes, JT Miller. Wow, great question. There really isn't an obvious one in there. With Canada, even Conor McDavid was like, it's Sid. Yep. Right, Sid. Smart move by McDavid, too.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Is going to be the captain. With Sweden, I imagine it's going to be Victor Hedman. Just a guess there. Yep, that's fair. Up front, you do have some veterans like Philip Forsberg, Mika Zibanejad, and William Nylander, but I think Victor Hedman, you know, the other guys that have already been picked
Starting point is 00:21:14 are Eric Carlson and Gustav Forsling. I think Hedman would be the guy. Hedman's the guy. But for the Americans, yeah, that's a tough one. Right, my gut... Like, do they go with a guy like John Carlson maybe or something like that? My gut instinct was to say Matthew Kachuk. My gut instinct.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Mine was to say Austin Matthews. Your number one center. That's fair. I mean, he's the captain at Toronto after he ripped it away from John Tavares. Well, that's actually – that would be funny. If Hedman was the captain, he's the new captain in Tampa Bay. And then if Matthews was the captain, he's the new captain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:49 I don't, that's a good question. You almost, you think that you would defer to a veteran guy, which by the way, is exactly the smart thing that McDavid did with Crosby. I think it's- You defer to the veteran guy. I think it's probably Matthews because of all the Stanley Cups. Right. Noted winner in the clutch.
Starting point is 00:22:07 He's played in so many big games. Yeah, definitely. Definitely knows how to get through the rigors of postseason play. That's a really interesting one. Kevin from Maple Ridge, this is an interesting topic. Maybe we'll get into it a bit later in the show. Ask us anything. How will the NCAA rule change allowing CHL players to move over to NCAA affect junior hockey in Canada?
Starting point is 00:22:30 Most importantly, how will it affect the BCHL? Kevin, I read a bunch of articles yesterday on this topic. topic and the answer from people that know a lot more about the hockey landscape involving chl ncaa bchl ushl all said like it's hard to say right now right like it's it's it's really tough to predict um you know one of the things that a lot of people don't know or maybe don't appreciate is that the CHL has contracts with these players. And so you can't just be like, oh, I'm going to go to the Vancouver Giants and then the next year I'm going to leave. Yeah. Right? Like there are actually contracts. So I think the initial response, certainly from the USHL, which had to release a statement
Starting point is 00:23:28 or felt the need to release a statement, is that you're worried a little bit about the USHL and BCHL if players feel like, well, I'll start in the CHL and then I always have the option of going to the NCAA. But I don't think it's quite that cut and dried. But that was the vibe that I got. But I also got the vibe that everyone's like, we're going to have to see how this plays out.
Starting point is 00:23:56 There's people projecting how they think it might turn out, but very speculative because it's such a seismic change and no one's really sure what that size like change is going to look like if there's a phenom out there that's really good would a chl team agree to say like let's say the kid is 16 years old and he said i want to play major junior but i also want to have the option of going to the ncaa would a chl team be open to, okay, you can play for us for a year or two. Right. And then we'll let you go to the NCAA.
Starting point is 00:24:29 One and done. Well, maybe because it's better than nothing. Otherwise, those kids are just, you know, they have been saying, you know, okay, well, I'm going to go to the USHL or I'm going to go to the BCHL or Europe for that matter it is an interesting dynamic because you could conceivably like go win a memorial cup and then go win an ncaa championship you know one and done in the chl one and done in the ncaa and then go to the nhl imagine your draft pro your stock profile at that point like i want everything there is to win i'm a
Starting point is 00:25:03 winner yeah they're like we have to now take you first overall. All right. Speaking of winners, we're going to talk to Moj next and we'll talk about the BC Lions. We'll wrap their season,
Starting point is 00:25:11 talk about what's next, how the Lions can improve this offseason. We'll also talk about the Canucks with Moj since he's an embedded reporter with the Vancouver Canucks.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Eight o'clock, Rick Dollywall. We'll have a few conversations about Lekker Amaki and where he's at. Could he possibly get the call up to the big club on Saturday if Brock Besser is hurt? We'll chat about that with Rick Dollywall. You're listening to the Alfred and Ruff Show on Sportsnet 650.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Hey, it's Jamie Dodd and Thomas Drance. Get your daily dose of Canucks talk with us weekdays from 12 to 2 on Sportsnet 650 or catch up on demand through your favorite podcast app. It's the Moj. I did not eat four burgers. Yes, it's the Moj. I don't want to go to Winnipeg. Nobody wants to go to Winnipeg.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Yes, I love food. It's the Moj. I went online and kind of did a little surfing. Jamalania. Yes, it's the mooch i went online and kind of, moat, moat, moat, moat. It's the moat. Moat, moat, moat, moat, moat. It's the moat. 7.33 on a Friday.
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Starting point is 00:27:15 Show on Sportsnet 650. Morning, Moj. How are you? Happy Friday, fellas. Happy Friday, buddy. How you been? How you doing? Doing well. Things have slowed down, obviously, a little bit this week, but great stuff coming up next week will keep us busy and, of course, the Canucks starting a six-game
Starting point is 00:27:32 homestand, so plenty of work coming up. Before we get into all of that, we do need to do a look back. The BC Lions season that was ended disappointingly over last weekend in Regina. Have you taken the week to kind of process everything that happened this year? Because although it was disappointing, there was a lot that happened.
Starting point is 00:27:49 It was a very tumultuous year for the BC Lions. Yeah, it was. It was, there was a lot of stuff happening. And, you know, maybe it took away some of the focus from what was happening on the field. And like, you know, when you're in a season, your focus has to be on the field. You can't be, can't have, quote, distractions when you're in a, in a season, your focus has to be on the field. You can't be,
Starting point is 00:28:05 can't have quote distractions and maybe the quarterback situation was a distraction at one point. But when you look at this team, I mean, in the end, it just simply wasn't good enough. I know Rick Campbell and Neil McEvoy, particularly Rick Campbell at the end of the season talked about meeting more playmakers. I would probably go on a different road. I think they have some playmakers. Yeah, you can always get more, particularly on the defensive side, in terms of guys that are going to create issues.
Starting point is 00:28:32 But I think they just need – they're probably maybe four or five players away. And I think they need a couple of guys that just have a real nasty streak to them. We're going to bring the other guys into the fight, so to speak. And maybe this will segue into the Canucks, but I think they're kind of missing that element. Yeah, they've got a bunch of great guys. There's a great group there and everybody gets along, but
Starting point is 00:28:53 sometimes you need that Rob Murphy, Jason Jimenez type guy on your roster as well. Do you think there will be any changes at the leadership level in terms of management, head coach? I don't know. I really don't. I think Rick Campbell, if you're asking me the question,
Starting point is 00:29:10 I think he'll be back. And I'll say that he has currency based on his previous two seasons, right? He does have some currency in the bank. I mean, usually when a coach gets fired, and I wrote about this last week, it's because either the team has tuned him out or there's a consumer confidence issue. And I think the biggest thing with the Lions right now is probably more of a consumer confidence issue.
Starting point is 00:29:31 But if he does come back, and I expect he will, I think he's going to have a very short leash. But it's a very important decision that has to be made by owner Amar Dolman and President Dwayne Manu. And I say that because you're basically, you know, next year you're, you're saying, okay,
Starting point is 00:29:47 we believe in this guy. And, you know, if we make the appropriate moves, maybe we can get to the next level. But the thing is, if you're wrong, now you've really kind of set your franchise back,
Starting point is 00:29:58 maybe a year or two in terms of a rebuild, because whoever comes in is going to probably bring in their own people. So I do expect coaching changes, though. Football is a result, any sport, it's a result-orientated business, and they didn't get the results this year. So there will be a price to pay. It's just who will pay that price.
Starting point is 00:30:17 What's your best-case scenario for the Grey Cup matchup? Saskatchewan. I kind of picked Toronto as a dark horse horse i've said this probably like by about week 10 i was talking about toronto so i'd probably say saskatchewan toronto and i'd like to see saskatchewan win just because you got the local kid cory mace out of port moody high school coaching the rough riders so um i would probably i'm a fan. Anybody but Winnipeg. I agree. Anybody but Winnipeg. If Winnipeg's back in it, it'll just be bleh.
Starting point is 00:30:55 So, and plus the other thing too is the people, I'm not going to start some sort of Twitter war now and get myself in trouble, but they're just so full of themselves. Just give me a break. It's just anybody but Winnipeg. Yeah, I agree. I'm going for the Riders for sure. There you go. We're speaking to Bob the Moj Marjanovic here on the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Moj is a presentation of the West Coast
Starting point is 00:31:14 Auto Group. Great service, great selection just over the bridge in Maple Ridge. Okay, for our next topic of conversation here, Moj, this is something that they mentioned on the postgame show last night. Bruff and I haven't mentioned it yet, so you're going to be the first one to broach the subject and the topic.
Starting point is 00:31:31 I agree with Halford. Well done. The hit on Besser last night by Tanner Jeannot and the lack of response. Go. Well, here's the thing. You know, I'm pretty much old school in the sense that i'd like to see something something happen but today's game has changed it's changed so much and you know
Starting point is 00:31:53 i remember ray ferraro talking about this you know when those guys are coming up in that generation even a couple of generations after a lot of these guys they knew how to fight they fought in junior they fought the minors whatever They fought in junior. They fought in the minors, whatever. They fought in the NHL. Everybody kind of took care of themselves. Take a look at one of those Hartford teams that Ray played on, an hockey defense. I remember I looked it up. It's like about 14 guys with over 100 penalty minutes.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Everybody just took care of themselves. It's a different game. Let's not kid ourselves. But here's the thing that surprises me. Even in today's game, you will see some sort of response when there's a clean hit. How many times have we seen clean hits in games? And, you know, the next thing you know, there's a fracas, a big brouhaha, as Taylor would say, or even a fight. And last night, there was really nothing, which kind of surprised me. And, you
Starting point is 00:32:42 know, it's not like I don't think Brock Besser isn't liked by his teammates and everyone's like, yeah, whatever, it's Brock. Maybe the guys that were on the ice didn't see it. That's what I always think. Like, did they actually see what happened? Because, I mean, it was a late hit. It wasn't really in the middle of the play. Yeah, so maybe guys didn't see it.
Starting point is 00:33:02 So, I don't know, but it was surprising given that, you know, like I said, a lot of times in today's game you'll see a big fracas even after a clean hit. So I think I'm probably on board with – am I agreeing with Ruff on this one? Well, we're giving them the benefit of the doubt that they didn't see it because I think for the most part, this current version of the Canucks has, has stuck up for each other, um, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:29 more than they have in the past. And to be fair, the game did take on a bit of a nasty edge. Even Quinn Hughes was, uh, mixing it up with, with Brant Clark right at the end of, or near,
Starting point is 00:33:41 near the end of the game. So, you know, I, I don't know. I was a little surprised Rick Talkett wasn't asked about it afterwards, but on the road there isn't quite as much media and there were other things to talk about too
Starting point is 00:33:52 because it was a pretty good win for the Canucks. Yeah, well, it was probably the most complete game of the season. I don't know about you guys, but I think it was probably the most complete game of the season. And, you know, we can look at that New Jersey loss now and put that in the rear view. I know that we talked about that last week, maybe being the canary in the season. And, you know, we can look at that New Jersey loss now and put that in the rear view. I know that we talked about that last week, maybe being the canary in the coal mine if, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:09 this trend continues. But they play some really good hockey on the road. And I think, like I said to me, last night, probably one of their most complete games, if not their most complete game of the season. We are speaking to Bob DeMoge Marjanovic here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. So Jack Michaels wasn't able to do the hit with us.
Starting point is 00:34:28 So we can talk about this Oilers game with you now, Moj. You can be our Oilers insider. Not only is it a big game on Saturday, it also kicks off a six-game homestand for the Canucks. And what better way to go into it than by sweeping California, winning all three games in a singular road trip for the first time in 15 tries. And we have noted this in the past. After that New Jersey game, I made a point of saying, go look at the schedule over the next couple weeks.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's not exactly laden with teams that are either at the top of the standings or on fire. Now, Edmonton's obviously a very good team that's gotten off to a slow start, but you go through that six-game homestand, there are a lot of winnable games on that slate. Well, as I wrote in my column that's going to come out today with Black Press, I think the big thing is sometimes it's not who you play, but when you play them, right?
Starting point is 00:35:16 Look back last year when the Canucks played the Oilers three times at the start of the year before Woodruff got fired. The Oilers were playing some very poor hockey at that point, and the Canucks picked up three big wins. They won the division by five points, so ask yourself how big those wins were, right? And I think when you look at this homestand coming up, the Canucks
Starting point is 00:35:35 are catching a lot of these teams right now, not playing that good hockey. I mean, Nashville's a tire fire. Chicago isn't playing well, and that's to be expected. The Oilers are struggling. Look at the Oilers' special teams. Have you seen their specials? Their penalty killings
Starting point is 00:35:51 dead last in the NHL at like 56%. And their power play, I think, is like 26th in the league. So they're kind of struggling in that department. They can be had. You've got to take advantage of that situation. I know McDavid's back, but still, you know, this team is kind of still trying to find its game, so to speak.
Starting point is 00:36:09 I mean, out of that group that's coming into Vancouver, in Calgary, they started off great. I think they've got one regulation win in their last 10. So, to me, it's not necessarily who you play, but when you're playing them. And even the Rangers, who went into last night at eight two and one got drilled by Buffalo by six to one so maybe the Rangers aren't a bit of a slide so to me they've got to take advantage of this situation you always want to take advantage of your home games but
Starting point is 00:36:34 especially now considering how a lot of these teams coming into Vancouver are struggling you get a chance to watch Thursday night football last night were you too glued to the Canucks game um I had to do a little bit of an airport run last night, and I did watch the Canucks in and out, and then watched the highlights, of course, and then watched a little bit of the football game as well. But Lamar Jackson is just like, that one scramble in the second half, I want to say it was third quarter, maybe like where he was being like,
Starting point is 00:37:01 you know, chased down and he ran down the sidelines and got to the one-yard line. I was just like, are you kidding me? How do you defend a guy like that, right? As a defensive coordinator, anytime you have an athlete that can do things like that, it just scares you because you can do everything right, and they still wind up making big plays.
Starting point is 00:37:20 They had a lid on him pretty well for three quarters, and then they had 231 yards and three touchdowns in the fourth quarter i flipped away from that game and it was like 21 to 7 and then i come back i'm like what what is 35 to 34 what the hell happened in the second half that's why baltimore's so fun to watch because they can flip the switch because they got a big play offense and they got a big play last night i think it was an 86 yard uh catch in squalus but they're never out of it because they have so many weapons and like you said lamar can just do things that other guys can't do on the football field yeah and you know i'll tell you probably the most frustrating thing for a defensive
Starting point is 00:37:58 coordinator a defensive coach and anybody out there who's coaching even at the high school level or college or whatever there are times in a game when you're on that headset and you've got the defense called, you've done everything right, and you'll hear the guy in the booth, one of the coaches will say, Coach, we had a guy there, right? I mean, you know, you had a guy assigned to do a job, and just the sheer athleticism of a guy like Lamar Jackson makes him look silly. So, yeah, I mean, that's like I said to me, when you're looking at it from a coaching perspective,
Starting point is 00:38:31 so, so frustrating because you've got everything dialed in. Everyone's following their assignments, and then it just comes down to one athlete being so much superior over another. Okay, before we let you go, we're going to do a special Ask Us Anything. This one is from Bob M it's actually moge uh you want to know should we start a segment called the dolly wall files on the house you know what i'm thinking we can do this there's plenty of material out there like we can talk about like when you getlly Wall on, I just want to hear his reaction. Ask him about, let's see, the Molson Indy Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Ask him about his coverage of the Molson Indy Vancouver. Okay. Then we can talk about maybe going to the ballet in Montreal. Okay. Wait, what? I feel like it was in the real ballet. Hey, you know what? We're going to dig up the secret Doy wall tapes for christmas because that's a great christmas present okay have you guys ever heard the secret dolly wall tapes i've never heard the secret secret dolly wall
Starting point is 00:39:33 tapes you guys have never heard the secret dolly wall never heard the secret dolly wall tapes so back in the day when pratt and i were doing the show, Dolly Wall was doing the update. And Dolly Wall would come into the studio and just, you know, do his thing, right? Just start screaming and this and that. Our operator at the time, Paul DeBras, said, why don't we just tape him? And he did. He taped him. And then we cut it all up into this promo.
Starting point is 00:40:03 And it was the secret Doy wall tapes the best christmas present you can get and then you have like you know dolly wall ranting and raving about something and we actually aired it and it's out there somewhere i gotta see if i can dig it up we actually aired it dolly wall didn't talk to us for like three weeks until we actually gave him some crown and then he was our buddy again but But yeah, so you can talk to him about the secret Dollywall tapes, his coverage of the Molson Indy, the ballet in Montreal. Oh,
Starting point is 00:40:30 Winnipeg Grey Cup. There's some great stories from there as well. So there's tons of stuff we can do with the Dollywall file. I want to hear you tell, tell us what happened at the Molson Indy. No, I'm not. Until we start the segment and I want,
Starting point is 00:40:44 I want Dollywall to squirm a little bit, right? I think we'd all like to see him squirm a little bit. Just, you know, when you get him on at 8 o'clock, ask him about, you know, hey, Rick, what do you think about doing, like, the Dolly Wall file? Okay. All right. I don't think he's going to like this idea, and sometimes he gets a little upset. Yeah, but, Moe, you know he's got some stories on you too, right, though?
Starting point is 00:41:05 So this could totally backfire. Or maybe it'll be amazing. It probably does, but I would say it's probably like five to one. Literally. He'll run out of material soon enough. Here's what we're going to do. We're going to ask Dolly Wall about it at 8, and then we're going to talk to you next Friday.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And next Friday, it could very well be the debut of the Dollywall Files here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. I'm in. Thanks, Moj. Have a great weekend, fellas. You too. See you, buddy. Bob, the Moj Marjanovic here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. I'm just picturing Dolly at the ballet with his little bear in the car, spinning around in circles.
Starting point is 00:41:40 This is awesome. It's literally just mutually assured destruction on the both sides. For sure. Let's just just mutually assured destruction on both sides. For sure. Let's just finish each other off here, okay? All right. That's got to be a better way to say that. No, that's a perfect way to say it.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Clip it. Nope. It's Ask Us Anything. Now I've got something in my mind that I'll never get out. Going nowhere. Ask Us Anything Friday on the Halford & Brough Show. Mr. PG, the septic tank statue, texts in. Nice. Ask Us Anything. With, the septic tank statue, text in. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Ask us anything. With Demko still out with injury, what are your thoughts on the injury that has had the greatest effect on the Canucks' performance over the history of the team? Oh, man. For me, I'm sure I'm forgetting some major injury, but for me, it was Ham Hoos in the Stanley Cup
Starting point is 00:42:24 final. Nazzy's broken leg right before the playoffs. I think he broke it against Buffalo. Yeah. Yeah. Daniel's injury in 2012. Yeah, the Duncan Keith elbow. But I think for me, it was Hamhuis trying to hip check Milan Lucic and Lucic going, I'm pretty big.
Starting point is 00:42:42 If they had had him in that series, I feel like it could have been different. Yeah, I'm trying. There are some other ones that are going to jump to mind. The Naslin one always jumps to mind for me because I guess someone actually wrote a really ghoulish article about this, like the worst injuries.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Not in terms of like the physical pain that the player went through, but like the most devastating to the team. And Naslin's was always up there because, you know, when you go back and you look at the West Coast Express and all the bites that they had at the Apple and how they all fell short that one always kind of falls back how many bites of the apple did they really get not enough yeah but the the one that 2003 right they
Starting point is 00:43:15 had that was a big really stands out because the road was wide open yeah um but that one the the nazi broken leg was a big one as well ty Tyler with Anaska's Anything. My son is going through his hockey cards, and he asked me if EP is a really good player. I always tell him everyone in the NHL is amazing, but he is asking based on relative to that standard, how do I respond to him? Thanks in advance. I think you say, yes, he is a very good hockey player right now.
Starting point is 00:43:42 But you know what? He's going through some struggles right now. We all go through slumps. Sometimes we all, sometimes players go through struggles. The boy heard yesterday that Mbappe was not picked for the French team that is playing in Nations League
Starting point is 00:43:59 or something like that. He's like, what? He's having a tough go of it. Will he ever get back on the team? I'm like, I'm pretty sure he will, but the French team is a pretty deep team. And, you know, it's like, what? He's having a tough go of it. Will he ever get back on the team? I'm like, I'm pretty sure he will, but the French team is a pretty deep team. It's funny because kids, I've noticed, always want to, is he good?
Starting point is 00:44:13 Yep. How good? Is he the best? Yeah. Sometimes. It's not linear. And that's the thing. That's the tough thing to explain to them.
Starting point is 00:44:21 The boy always wants to know who's the best goalie in the NHL. It changes. And it changes, right? That's the tough thing to explain to them. The boy always wants to know who's the best goalie in the NHL. It changes. And it changes, right? Like, I'll be, you know, I remember telling him, like, probably Vasilevsky, but now I'd say Hellebuck. Yes. And then he'd be like, did the Vasilevsky guy retire?
Starting point is 00:44:37 He's still there. Yeah, he's still pretty good, but, yeah, these things change a little bit. You're like, and then you've got to consider Kevin Lankanen. No, okay. Gumstick James, hashtag WWL, what we learned. Quinn Hughes, gooning it up
Starting point is 00:44:48 at the end of the game was an unexpected treat last night against Los Angeles. As he continues to evolve his superhuman abilities, I'd love to see more of a chip on his shoulder. What was going on
Starting point is 00:44:58 with Brant Clark? What was going on there? All I kept saying, I was like, calm down, Brant. No one's ever been scared of a Brant in their life. Just calm down.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Quinn was definitely ignoring him in the penalty box. He was yelling away. But why was he so upset? It was a nothing play on his own entry. And to be honest, when they did the replay and they showed both guys from the front. Don't stick your glove in someone's face. I just didn't. Of all the things to set somebody off, Brandt.
Starting point is 00:45:24 I was surprised. Ain't nobody ever, of all the things to set somebody off, Brant. I was surprised. Ain't nobody ever scared of a Brant, ever. I was just, I was surprised by it. And then, yeah. It was awesome. And then the penalty box, he kept going. Yeah, he was chirping and then he was eventually just like, okay, that's enough. Yeah. I've had enough out of you.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, it was like a Drance segment. Did you ask some sort of rhetorical question at the end there, Brant Clark? Is this a quiz? Yeah. Sorry, I wasn't listening. Matt, not on the island, ask us anything. If you ever got the bag, would you prefer your money came by the boatload
Starting point is 00:45:54 or that they back the trucks up? I want it as quietly as possible. I want it dropped in a big sack out of a helicopter. I have thought about this before. Would you want everyone to know, though? Well, I would first buy a new mansion away from everyone. Hold on. I think the question...
Starting point is 00:46:12 You'd never hear from me again. Okay. The question inherently is about how you have to show off the money. There's no option to hide it secretly. So it's like, which way would you want to show it off? Ever since I saw the pall palette of money in Breaking Bad, that's how I want it. I want a big palette. You just want to be able to lay on it.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah, a perfect square of money. It's the palette of money. And then in Patch Adams, the pool full of noodles. It's like, what inanimate objects would you like to rest yourself in? That would be pretty good. Doing a Scrooge McDuck thing, like diving into the big pool. Yeah, but the pallet. That would hurt.
Starting point is 00:46:47 It can't be coins. I've never understood the Scrooge McDuck thing. Family guy did that. Family guy did that. Yeah, you would kill yourself. Yeah, it would. You know Scrooge McDuck? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:54 He dives in a giant thing of coins and swims around in it? Like, no, that'd be very dangerous. You don't want to do that. We could allow it. I mean, I know it's a cartoon, but. For this highly fictional conversation we're having here. Would you guys really want people to know, though? Actually, no.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Well, no. I would try and not tell anybody. No. But let's be honest. If we're answering the question, you can't be like, I would hide it from everyone. Oh, I would. However, I would do the Homer Simpson to make a giant body of gold for myself and walk around like that. You're like, I would-
Starting point is 00:47:20 Look closer, Lenny. It's like mutual funds for me all the way. Have you ever thought that it might be easier to win like $3 million versus $50 million? Because at $3 million, you could easily just be like, yeah, I bought a house in Vancouver. Right? There's nothing for anyone else. At $50 million, you get a lot of people with their hands out. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:47:44 No, I know. And it would cause tension, right? Because you'd probably be like, oh. You'd have to become a philanthropist. Yeah. Start caring about people. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Right? Can you imagine all the galas you'd have to attend? That's true. And you'd have to get a driver. You know when you go to these galas and they have a, not that I go to a lot of galas, but even like a charity dinner or something like that. And they have the silent auction at the end, not the silent auction,
Starting point is 00:48:08 the actual, the loud auction, the auction. And they're like, will anyone give $1,000? And it's so uncomfortable. It's like, no,
Starting point is 00:48:19 it's funny that charity dinner in our world is a totally different meaning. It's like when you take someone for a dinner. Yeah, like the charity dinner when I take you and Laddie out for Christmas. Oh, my favorite dinner of the year. Oh, you mean Christmas dinner? Wow, they got napkins here. All right, we got to go to break. When we come back, Rick Dollywell is going to join us.
Starting point is 00:48:39 We're going to do what we learned and ask us anything. And we're going to give away two $100 gift cards. One to Mucho Burrito and one to AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. You're listening to the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet, 6.50. Let's just finish each other off here, okay? All right, that's got to be a better way to say that. No, that's a perfect way to say it.

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