Halford & Brough in the Morning - The Best of Halford and Brough 10/10/25

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

Mike & Jason look back at the previous day in sports, they talk yesterday's big Canucks season opening win with Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal, plus the boys tell us what they learned. This podcast is... produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. Whoa. Wait a minute. Huh? Hold up. What? Oh, okay. Did we just lose a fucking Canucks?
Starting point is 00:00:12 Da-na-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. You're listening to Halford and Brough. Out the right wing side into the slot. What time are they scored? Jonathan Licker-Macky. Pretty close game. And we were able to kind of wait around and break it open in the third there.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Swing at a broken back. Combacker. Kirkring knocks it down. Picks it up. Threws wildly home to the backstop. And the season is over. What are your feelings when it comes to Ryan Kirkering right now seeing that happen on the other side?
Starting point is 00:00:53 Oh, it's brutal. Ladies and gentlemen, the weekend. Good morning, Vancouver, 601. Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. It is Halford and is Brough. It is SportsNet 650. We are coming you live from the Kintech Studios and beautiful Fairview Slopes in Vancouver. Jason, good morning. Good morning.
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Starting point is 00:01:52 I had countless texts from all my friends, all three of them. And they all said the same thing. I'm jealous that you get to work. in sports right now because this is the time of year where literally everything is happening. So much so that we're not going to have a guest on the first hour of the program yet again.
Starting point is 00:02:10 It's all hellbrose. We go through what happened with the Vancouver Canucks last night? What happened in Major League baseball last night? What happened to Philly sports? That's a tough one for them. That's a tough one. You know, Tocke's probably like nobody cares about the flyers and that's not
Starting point is 00:02:27 such a bad thing today. They lost 2-1 and they had the best performance in Philadelphia sports last night. Yeah. It was amazing. Connectney missed an open net. They would have tied it. And they're like, it's okay. Yeah, yeah. That's not even the smallest or the biggest mistake that happened today. Defending cup champs on the road. We were never going to win this anyway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:43 You guys covered the puck line? Good job, Philadelphia. We got a lot to get into in the program. Starting at 7 o'clock when the guests get underway, AJ from AJ's Pizza is going to join us at 7. A reminder, a $100 gift card. Goes to AJ's Pizza on East Broadway for the best. Ask us anything submission on a Friday. Dunbar Lumber
Starting point is 00:03:02 text line 650, 650. Start getting them in now. Hashtag it AUA and put a pizza emoji into your text. At 705 right after AJ, Zach Worden, who's basically a part of the show now, is going to join the program, Sportsnet Associate Editor and Blue Jays writer. So who do the Blue Jays want to face when the ALCS gets underway on Sunday? Laddie, your choice is?
Starting point is 00:03:27 The Detroit Tigers. Is it going to be Detroit or Seattle because they're going to find out tonight I think Seattle's a better team I do too When the Tigers and the Mariners play their decisive game five In Seattle at 5 PMR time Yeah and you would get
Starting point is 00:03:40 Scoobol later in the series too Not until game three Like max In a seven game series You can make three starts right If it's a seven game series And you start game one If you start game one
Starting point is 00:03:53 Yeah right Okay well you won't be able to do that Right So we will find out who the Js are going to play at 5 o'clock beginning at 5 o'clock tonight and then by Sunday morning we'll get answers to the other big questions we'll ask Zach about this as well who's going to be on the ALCS roster is Chris Bass is going to be on it's Max Scherzer going to be on it and the big one is Bo Bichette going to be on it we'll answer all these questions with Zach or try to get some answers with
Starting point is 00:04:20 Zach at 7.05 this morning 730 Bob the Moge Marjanovich is going to join the program yes the BC Lions are on a buy this week but that's okay There's still plenty to talk about with the Moge. We can look ahead to another big Seahawks game this weekend. And I'll use this opportunity to remind everybody that Moge is doing the pregame show on SportsNet 650, beginning at 8 a.m. Sunday morning. Early morning, Moge, how do you like your eggs, Moge? We'll find out at 8 a.m.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Are you going to make them eggs or something? I'm going to tune in and listen. So at the 10 a.m. kickoff in Jacksonville on the weekend. Pregame show starts at 8. Moge is going to join us this morning at 7.30. I also heard that Moge was on Press Row for the Canucks game last night. So we'll talk to him about that as well. 8 o'clock Rick Dollywall is going to join the program.
Starting point is 00:05:05 As per usual, I now turn things over to the official Rick Dollywall Handler on the Halford & Brough show. It's Jason Brough. He said, let's just talk about the game. And then he goes, this is a classic Rick. Let's just talk about the game and morph from there. Morp. Sure. You know, the conversation will morph.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yeah. You know what? We'll allow it. Go to the judges. Judges are good with it. We're going to allow it. Is it morphing time, Rick? Working in reverse on the guest list.
Starting point is 00:05:36 8 o'clock, Rick Dollywall, 7.30. Bob Marjanovitch, 7 o'clock, Zach Wharton, and then 7. AJ, that's what's happening on the program today. Laddie, let's tell everybody what happened. Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. What happened? I missed all the action because I was.
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Starting point is 00:06:10 Despite it being the widest breadth of sports I could imagine in a single night last night, we had it all. We are going to begin with the Vancouver Canucks. Of course we're going to begin with the Vancouver Canucks. Where else would we begin? Philip Heel scored twice, and the Canucks opened their season with a five, 5-1 victory over the Calgary Flames on Thursday night at Rogers Arena. Big Keith Chief, Kiefer-Shirwood, Jonathan Lachromackie, and Brock Besser,
Starting point is 00:06:34 also scored for the Canucks. Thatcher Demko, 17 saves, nearly a shutout, and the Canucks got the win for their head coach, Adam Foote. His first ever win as an NHL head coach after three seasons as an assistant. Canucks win, 5-1. Yeah, Demko and Heidel were the best players for the Canucks. Thatcher Demko, pretty good goalie. Hope he stays healthy. He had to make a couple of big stops when the game was still within a goal.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And the Canucks did look a bit rusty, maybe nervous or whatever, or just not great to start the game. And I think it might be fair to wonder in the other net if Dustin Wolfe would normally stop that shot by Kiefer Sherwood that opened the scoring in the first. It was a nice shot, and we all know Kiefer Sherwood has a good shot. pretty telling that Dustin Wolfe did get the start last night Not a lot of trust in the backup in Calgary
Starting point is 00:07:32 It was a back-to-back night Edmonton And then Vancouver Maybe So is Dustin Wolf going to just play all 82 games Or like what's the plan? Not only was it a back-to-back It also went to overtime
Starting point is 00:07:46 And he also faced eight rounds in the shootout Yeah I think there's probably an understanding in Calgary That Wolf is going to have to carry them if they're going to have any chance of making the playoffs this season or even any chance of getting close to the playoffs like they did last season. But I'd rather talk about Thatcher Dempco because he didn't have a ton of shots, but he did have some really tough saves to make and probably a good time to remember,
Starting point is 00:08:12 considering the opponent, who was in goal last season in the opener and how that game ended and maybe how that set the, I don't know. It just set the everything's going wrong vibes. It set a tone for the Canucks. The answer to his question is Archer Silovs, by the way, who started this year much better than last year with a shutout for the Pittsburgh Penguins.
Starting point is 00:08:34 But last year, no great. When the Canucks did stake out to a three-goal lead, like they did last year in the opener against Calgary, I did have a brief moment of, oh, no. Yeah, I was brief. Yeah, it was brief, right? As for Heidel, he put the game away with two goals in the third. The Canucks did get the bounces on, I would say, both of his goals.
Starting point is 00:08:56 The first, obviously, not a good bounce for Kevin Ball, concerning it, bounced off his head, and he went down. Ball took it off the head. And then Heidel was able to pounce on the puck, and I think maybe some of the flames thought, shouldn't you blow the whistle and blow that? Referees, and they didn't. And then Heel was like, how about I just shoot this into the open net? Because Dustin Wolfe had kind of fallen.
Starting point is 00:09:18 The second, the only reason I say the Connakes got a bit fortunate, is that the Flames had a golden opportunity in the slot. Was it Matt Coronado with that? He was Matt Coronado. Yeah, he shot that wide. And then, you know, the Conucks did make some, they pounced on that opportunity. It was some good awareness by Baines to hit Heedle on the breakaway goal,
Starting point is 00:09:39 on the breakaway, and then a great job by Heedle to bury it. And then that was game over, right? It was 3-0 Canucks, and even though you had that brief moment of, uh-oh, I think everyone else in the building, including the flames. The flames probably like, we are not going to win this. The prettiest goal of the night
Starting point is 00:09:55 was the fourth one. Beautiful passing play from Garland who played, I thought, really well on the night, as he normally does. He's kind of in that like you expect good things from Garland position now. He passed it to Kane and Kaye made a great pass to Lecker-Macky
Starting point is 00:10:10 who found a spot between the Flames defenders. I think it was like three of them and he's like, I'm just going to scooch in here. Got it from Kane and fired it quickly past Wolf who was probably about done with this game. As for the top line, I thought they looked a lot like they did in the preseason,
Starting point is 00:10:29 which is to say pretty solid defensively, not giving up much, but not very dangerous offensively until about three minutes to go when Besser fired one home after taking a drop pass from Petey. Petey made a nice play on that because he took out the defender.
Starting point is 00:10:47 A little pick play. A little bit of a pick play, And the defender was like, how about I cross-check you? And Besser was like, how about I rip this past your goalie? Jerk. Hopefully that'll get the top line going for the next game because it's getting it a little bit tougher. Saturday in Edmonton where that line will probably be matched up against McDavid
Starting point is 00:11:07 and maybe dry-sidal too, depending if those two play together. I will remind you that that Calgary team did beat that Edmonton team. So how much tougher is it really going to get, Jason? It's a good point. The Oilers are not a good team. Thank you. Thank you. You make a good point that the others are not very good. The best team.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Special teams, power play went 0 for four, not good, looked way too familiar to last season for my liking. But the PK, oh, the PK, a little bit worried about the PK when the likes of Pew Souter left and Teddy Bluger got hurt, but it was 4 for 4, so it was a soft. Baines made some great blocks on the PKK. And we've talked about, you know, these young guys, they got to find somewhere where they're needed, you know, and if Baines
Starting point is 00:11:56 can be a good penalty killer, if you can go out there and make plays, that's great for his spot on the team because the Canucks need guys to step up and play in those rules. But what about the hits? What about the hits? Someone's probably texting into the Dunbar Lumber Text line. So you know what? It's been eerily, I mean, there's been a couple, but there's not been the onslaught of text. you would expect well,
Starting point is 00:12:20 they won. Right? Yeah, but two hits of that caliber and controversy, I might add. One of them,
Starting point is 00:12:26 by the way, on the postgame show, the DPD hit on Connor Zeri got named the Kermak collision, collision of the game. So I was listening to it. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:12:34 maybe you should pick a legal hit next time. I don't know. Yeah, that was far worse than the one on RPD, like the,
Starting point is 00:12:40 of the two, like the DPD one was far worse. Did you think, Jason? I thought the hits were different. And I think
Starting point is 00:12:46 Elias Patterson after the game kind of suggested, yeah, It wasn't such a bad hit. It was bad timing. I think the Canucks were a bit fortunate that DPD's got called a minor. While I think it would have been pretty unfair for Weger to get a major.
Starting point is 00:13:00 On the Weiger hit, Peeley was clearly aware that Weiger was there and might have even tried to engage the contact. I don't think he tried to make a reverse hit, but I think he tried to brace himself and maybe put Weiger off balance at the same time. I don't think Zerry I don't think Connor Zerry tried to engage anything with DPD like DPD went in there on a mission to hit and maybe there's some history there
Starting point is 00:13:28 well yeah there is some history there's very concussed him last year with an elbow so that probably doesn't lend itself favorably to the Pedersen defense but that being said it was both were rescinded upon review and you know the NHL
Starting point is 00:13:43 getting with the modern version of like the rest of sports like It's good that they've got these tools at their disposal and they're using them and they're making these calls and they're going through them and saying, hey, you know, I think we've seen. Why do they have to go through the ridiculousness of like, okay, we're going to call this a major and then look at it. You bring up a good point. The rigamarole of it is a little ridiculous. It's so stupid. Like, well, why don't they just say like, why don't they just say like, hey, there was a pretty dangerous hit there.
Starting point is 00:14:10 We're going to take a look at that. I know. It's the mechanism in place for those that don't know is if you basically have to call it. a major in order to take a look. Yes. And then knock it down to a minor. Why not just say the play is under review? That would be a great way to do.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I think the problem is you open up a Pandora's box where you can just review anything, right? But now the inverse is like now officials are always going to call the majors. Yeah. Because that gives them the opportunity and the leverage to go look at the monitor. Well, it's like the linesmen have started to be like, I'm not sure about that one. I'm just going to let that one go. With off sides. With off sides.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. All in all, a positive start to the season. As Shorty put it after the game, Rome wasn't built in a day, but a win is a win is a win. Yeah, 5-1, put it this way. If you were to tell me that the conucks were going to get a 5-1 victory at home in the opener, in which Demko looked great, and their 2C looked great.
Starting point is 00:15:09 How do you feel about him as 2C now after last night? One game, Andy, one game I'm all in. Yeah, you got to go all in. I'm all in on Philippeal. I'd say, great. Like, that's a great, great end result. And I think at certain times during the year, we are going to look at the result rather than the process and say, that's fine, right?
Starting point is 00:15:28 It's an 82 game season. Sometimes what matters is the win and not necessarily how you got there. First two periods, not an oil painting by any stretch of the imagination. I was old, I went old school last night. I listened to the game. I listened to Batch and Randeep on SportsNet 650 to really get the essence of what was going on. Were you taking a bath or something? No, I was at a soccer practice, but I was a spectator, so I walked.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Oh, okay. I walked and I listened to the game. You know, like a transistor radio or something like that? That's right. I had a big boombox up next to my ear. Playing AM radio, which you don't see very often. Anyway, so sometimes when you're listening to someone call the game that intricately, you can almost get a sense of where the level of intensity, style, excitement is at just by the tone in their voice.
Starting point is 00:16:12 And this isn't to say the batch was flattering. Maybe you can just tell when someone's, talking in the first two periods it was it was a slog now i do think some of this had to do with calgary coming in on the second of the back-to-back and the way calgary plays and this is where i want to turn our attention to what adam foot had to say postgame adam foot's first post-game media availability and presser as the head coach of the vancouver canox and i was trying to look for you know cues and tells and you know traits that he might bring throughout the year and one of the things that he said in the preseason that stuck with
Starting point is 00:16:45 everyone was about how the Canucks weren't necessarily going to tailor their game to the opponent, but they were going to try and change certain elements of their game based on what the opponent was doing. So Adam Foote talked at length about what Calgary was bringing to the table last night, in great detail, which I'm going to say you don't often get from an NHL coach for a multitude of reasons, but, you know, foot went pretty deep into the weeds on this one. Here's Adam Foote on the opponent from last night, the Calgary Flames and what they presented in a 5-1 loss to the Vancouver Canucks. confidence. I mean, you know, they're a hard team to play. I say they're always, you saw the last night in Emerton, they don't quit. They play a grinding game. They wanted to get us after the whistles. That's the way they do it and slowed the game down. I felt like we tried to avoid it, but we got into it a little bit too much, in my opinion. But that's what Calgary does to you. And, you know, you can't really blame our players when they're playing their first real game. And the emotions are all over the place, but we were able to gather them and not.
Starting point is 00:17:45 play their style for the most part and play our game. So it's interesting because I think there were a lot of things that you could take from last night's game that were good. I think there's a lot of things you could take from last night's game where you're like, that's going to need improvement. The power play was too similar to last year at times. Yeah, I thought at times the second unit was snapping the puck around better than the...
Starting point is 00:18:11 Zipping it real nice. Than the first unit, yeah. There was one instance where Lechromacki, I can't remember who the Flames player was that broke his stick that was defending Lechromack and he wasn't shooting. It was all this zipping around the perimeter and it looked good because the puck was moving quickly. But the end result, of course, was no goal on that power play, no goals on any of the power plays. And the style of play that Foote wanted to implement. I remember I think a lot of people were joking like, where's all this run and gun? We were promised because it was a slog for parts of the two periods.
Starting point is 00:18:42 But in the third, if you want to turn this frown upside down, if we are delivering a frown on the morning show, the third period was very much what an NHL team needs to do in certain instances to be successful. One of them is when you have a team on the second of a back-to-back, and they are tired, and the game is hanging in the balance in the third, put your foot down and take care of it in the third. And that's what they did.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It doesn't matter how you do it, they outscored the flames emphatically in the third, and they had some breaks go their way. The Coronado one, And this is funny because the other head coach, Ryan Huska mentioned this in the post. He's like, we lost that when Coronado missed the net. Yeah, yeah. And the Canucks came.
Starting point is 00:19:18 It was over then. It was over then, right? And you could feel it. Well, broken. Yeah, you could feel it in the building. Even though I was like, ooh, three nothing lead. That's not great. But it was over.
Starting point is 00:19:27 And that entire sequence had to do with the fact that Coronado didn't just blow the opportunity. He missed the net entirely. It didn't even force Dempco into a save. Ricoed off the end boards. Baines picks it up. Boom. Other way, they're gone. So it was a mixed bag.
Starting point is 00:19:41 in terms of things to like and not to like last night. But at the end of the day or the end of the morning, a 5-1 win in your first game is so much, so much better than how last season started, which was a 4-1 lead furthered away into a 6-5 loss against that same Calgary Flames team. Nate and Richmond, Texan, Baines looked better, but there's still too much high-risk in his game.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Turn it over the blue line on the Coronado chance. That should have made a 2-1. Turn it over the blue line on Calgary's loan goal as well. fair text are we going to be fighting about Baines and arguing about Baines for like what is it until Hoaglander's back or something?
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah I don't mean it didn't play a perfect game but it seems to be like the one guy that everyone's focusing on though out there I guess I don't know that happens sometimes yeah I mean I guess it was good and bad from Baines
Starting point is 00:20:31 I'm such a positive person so I prefer to look at the good things he did especially on the power play and I know his teammates were very quick to point it out and Thatcher Demko called them some big boy blocks from our Steve Baines. Now on the goaltending front it is game two Saturday in Edmonton yeah and we are already discussing who should start that one because Demko because Demko looked Demko looked great because Demko looked great but but do you want to
Starting point is 00:21:09 How would Lankinen feel about that? How would Lankanen feel about that? Fine. There's lots of opportunities in this first month of the season where you're going to use both. Would you consider Lankanin the Canucks backup?
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. Yeah, I would. Would Lankan... Would Lankan... Would Lankan consider Lankan the Canucks backup? He would not. No, he wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:21:34 He'd consider himself the 1B to the 1A. Yeah. But he's not. Demco is a lot better. Has the whole, hasn't the whole thing with the Canucks when it comes to Dempco is like, we got Lankton and we invested in Lankton and they made a big invest in it. Like that's not a typical backup goal of contract. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:55 It's not. No. And it was, and they invested in him, why? Well, you know, we came to the conclusion as an organization that we want to be really solid in goal. And we want to, you know, we want to, you know, we want to. keep Dempco fresh as possible and we don't want to overwork them so I'm with you like I think they should start Demko
Starting point is 00:22:15 but I think the fact that it's been one game and we're already like who should start who should start game too even though Demko played really well that this is a bit of a unique situation but here's the thing I don't think it's a bad
Starting point is 00:22:31 situation I think that I didn't say it was a bad situation didn't say it was a bad situation like in terms of said it's a unique situation yeah no I know I'm sorry I shouldn't project you saying something negative. That's very not what Jason... I haven't said one negative thing this morning. No, I took... You're the one projecting negative,
Starting point is 00:22:48 it's actually freaking me out a little bit. Yeah, you look ugly. Oh, there we go. There we go. Wouldn't Lankan just start every third game, like just make it as simple as that? And the back-to-backs? I would assume right now.
Starting point is 00:22:59 All games are different. I know, but I'm just saying if you want to give them a percentage of how many games they play, like Lankin is probably going to play a third and Demko plays two-thirds. I don't know. Or maybe like 60... Maybe 60-40.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I think it's one of those good problems to have. Oh, totally. It'd be kind of cruel to give them all the back end of the back-to-backs, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go Lankan in. Enjoy. Edmonton would, I mean... Yeah, that's for like a $900,000 backup, really.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Yeah, right. And you'll be happy to get them. But it's the Oilers, and like, Lincoln is a very, very, very good goalie. Like, he's not really a backup. He's probably a starter on a lot of teams, but Demko's also, like, Vesna-Calibur, and Lincoln is not. But this is... So would you not play the Vesna-Caliber guy over a team against the Oilers? All I'm saying is that the Canucks went into this season talking about the tandem.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Sure, yeah. Not the one guy. They talk, we have the best goalie tandem in the league and they went in with the intent of we got to keep Demko a little more fresh. I agree with you guys. But I guess I'm just setting the table for these sorts of conversations because I think we're going to be having a lot of them. Yeah, and as long as both guys are playing well. And healthy. Yeah, it's great, right?
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's like, well, which really good goalie are we going to think? throw about there. I suppose within the inner workings of the dynamic. Until it tears the team apart. And that's a thing, right? But we're not there yet before Temco and Lankin and start loathing each other for stealing each other's starts. But it's, you know what? The interesting part is that if you were to
Starting point is 00:24:23 ask the layman who's the starter, who's the backup on the team, I think everyone would have the same answer. Three putt, Shane, texting in, I wonder how many calls Alvin will get about Lankan this season. Game one, Dunbar Lumber, text line. let's trade a guy.
Starting point is 00:24:40 There was some stank... I'm just kidding three-pudshade. But first 72 hours of the season, there's been some stank goaltending out there. And there was one late... It happens every start of the year. That goals for game is way up. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough.
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Starting point is 00:26:53 What up, Ricky D? I got my Blue Jays jersey on today. That a boy. Yeah, it's on. I didn't know they made Hawaiian-themed Blue Jays jersey. I got a Hawaiian Blue Jays one as well. My buddy went to Waikiki Beach. He saw something there.
Starting point is 00:27:09 He brought it back. But I'm going Blue Jays jersey today. I'm hoping the Mariners lose so I could watch Henderson cry, like a two-year-old. And you know what? Actually, you know what? It would be nice if it was a Blue Jays Mariners ALCS. Yes. I wonder if they would block Canadians from buying tickets.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Like, I really wonder if the Mariners make it. to the next round, would they try and stop like the flooded people coming in from Vancouver? They might, yeah. Who was doing that last time? The Yankees, the Yankees, yeah, yeah, the Yankees. They just said that we don't want Canadians at Yankee Stadium, but boy, that could really hurt the murders
Starting point is 00:27:56 if, you know, BC and Alberta flood, you know, that ALCS in Seattle. So that's going to be interesting, very interesting. Rick, Thatcher Dempco was great. Philippeitel scored a couple of goals. I thought the connects were maybe a little rusty, or I don't know, maybe a little nervous. They conceded it wasn't their best effort to start the game, but they got it done. They scored five goals, and that was with no points from Quinn Hughes. So all in all, pretty positive start to the season to build on what's been a positive training camp and exhibition season.
Starting point is 00:28:34 absolutely and but and you just nailed it and if you want to tell me the conoxes we're going to get five goals and no points from cooing to use i wouldn't believe you and that top line was pretty quiet till the better goal at the end thank god for philippeel i mean two goals team leading five shots he worked on a shot in the summer and you saw that on the breakaway goal summers are not just for young kids you know to put on the necessary weight and muscle and yada, yada, yada. Veterans need good summers to stay in the NHL year after year. You know, all this talk about trading for a second-line center.
Starting point is 00:29:13 If, and this is a capital letters IF, if Heidel keeps doing this, it's early, you know, but they may not need to go get one. Second-line centers are expensive. Heedle could do the Canucks a big favor. He could save them from coughing up a La Caramacchio or Wallander to get that top center if he keeps us up. Again, capital letters if, but man, he looked good. But let's be honest, guys.
Starting point is 00:29:39 That's a Calgary tired team, went to a shootout the night before in Evanton. Things are going to get a whole lot tougher for the Canucks tomorrow night in Edmonton. You mentioned Dempco. Canucks P.K. was great last night. Calgary 0-4. Who's your best penalty killer?
Starting point is 00:29:55 It's your goaltender. He was great. The only reason it was a one-goal game after 40 minutes was Demko. I told you guys, a few weeks ago, he had a great summer of training, no setbacks, everything's back
Starting point is 00:30:09 to normal. With this condensed schedule coming up, you don't have to overplay him, because you've got to back up, you're paying $4.5 million to. When you talk to people around the league, they love the Vancouver goaltending. It might be the best tandem in the National Hockey League.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Look at Calgary last night. No confidence in their backup. They had to play Wolf back-to-back. I don't see the Canucks ever doing that this year. There's no way. But to play Wolf back to back tells you what they think of their backup. They are in the market, Calgary.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I'm a little bit surprised they didn't take DiPietro or Stevenson out of Washington off a waivers. A lot of people expected them to be in on that. But I think the Canucks are just going to be in goal if this continues. They might have the best tandem. Just a quick update. I checked with the NHL this morning on the hits from behind in Vancouver last night,
Starting point is 00:31:06 McKenzie Weeger and defenseman Ellis Pedersen because you guys know sometimes guys get suspended and there's not even a penalty on the play, right? But nothing is coming from the Department of Player's Safety out of Vancouver today. Nothing for Weeger or Pedersen. Weiger's hit on Pedersen the forward. Defenseman Pedersen hit Conner-Zeri. Now go back to last year. What did Conor Zeri do to Petterson?
Starting point is 00:31:31 defenseman, the headshot, and he got suspended, right? So both, I do wish, I did wish that somebody would have Wigger know, you can't do that to one of our top players, but the connection don't have that player right now. I don't think they do. What are you talking about? They got a Vander Kaine, and I thought, I mean, I, Sherwood and Wigar got mixed up in the corner, too, but it wasn't right away. Yeah, I know, but sometimes you got to send a message. You can't do that to Pedersen and Hughes. He's got, remember in Washington last year, he was roughed up in that one game. Like just, I wish somebody would have went up to him and said,
Starting point is 00:32:09 hey, look, you can't do it. But that's an ongoing thing and has been an ongoing thing in Vancouver for quite some time. But it was just something I noticed last night for me anyways. Now, I want to bring up R. Steve Baines, okay, because good game for the kid. I see the hate for him on social media. but what people need to know is the Canucks gave him a two-year deal because they like him. Management of Vancouver likes him.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Management in Abbisford likes him. The coaches in Vancouver like him. The coaches in Abby like him. You saw the two block shots on the same PK. That was when it was a one-goal game. He sets up Heel on the breakaway, primary assist. That's what he's got to do. To stay in the NHL, you need more than just one thing in your tool belt.
Starting point is 00:32:56 if he can kill penalties, great. The key for him and all the Abbey guys is don't get sent down in a week or two. The hardest part is not getting to the NHL. The hardest part is staying in the NHL. And look at it, I'm going to tell you a couple more things about Baines. Brent Sutter, okay, when Baines signed in Vancouver, when I talked to Brent Sutter about Baines,
Starting point is 00:33:23 he raved about him. When a Sutter likes you, that's a big thing for me. You know, those guys are hard to play. And Sutter coached him in junior? In Redier. Yeah. But the way he talked about this kid glowingly, and when he got called up for his first NHL game and I texted Sutter and he couldn't be more happier.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Look, there is a lot there. It's up to him to take it to the next level, the next step. And last night was a good first step. look at the abbey guys last night Baines one assist Lecara Mackey one goal Rat two big faceoff wins defensive zone on the PK
Starting point is 00:33:59 Elias Pedersen the defenseman gave you 13 solid minutes when your second pair gives you 13 to 15 minutes every night that's awesome when the Vancouver Giants won the Memorial Cup and I asked Don Hay about his blue line
Starting point is 00:34:14 the first thing he said to me is I trust my third pair when you trust the third pair you don't overplay the top pair And that last night, from Fort Burton-Petterson, that Abbottesford crew last night was great. Winning the Calder Cup, you don't think that did something for these guys, confidence-wise, and all that stuff. I think winning the Calder Cup was huge for those guys. And to block shots like that, the Canucks Block 17 shots last night, Calgary Block 7, that's the sacrifice you need. And goalies appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:34:48 You heard Demko talking about Baines and the two blocks. You heard them post game. That's the stuff that builds a team. And those are the things that coaches love. And last night, they did it. And they blocked those shots, and it mattered. One more, and this is on Kiefer Sherwood. Nice goal first period.
Starting point is 00:35:09 We all saw it. Team leading six hits. I keep telling you guys, this is his UFA year. If he hits 20 goals and leads the NHL and hits, his next deal is going to be significant. The Canucks talked to his first agent in the summer. Nothing. There was no traction.
Starting point is 00:35:26 They have talked to the new agents as well. There hasn't been traction. There's been no meaty talks between the two sides. Connucks are obviously waiting. Kind of show me what you got. Show me what you got. But if they wait too long on Sherwood, it's going to be a contract that the Canucks can't afford.
Starting point is 00:35:44 And then I tell you guys, bring up Joshua. Same thing happened. They went down to the wire five days before July 1st in Vegas in a hotel room. finally got it done. Grudgingly, they went to Joshua's number. They never did want to go to that number. I'm just saying the Kiefer Sherwood, all he has to do is keep doing what he did last night. You know, be that guy, the energy guy, chip in with goals, lead the team and hits. He's going to do really fine on his next contract. And that next contract will have term, and it will start with a four. It will not start with a three. And it'll go accordingly from there. But I thought that guy,
Starting point is 00:36:20 for a guy that a lot of people are looking at right now. I think he's just in his own right now. I think he's going to have a good year. Rick, do the Canucks automatically go back to Thatcher Demko Saturday in Edmonton? Yeah. We just talked about that condensed schedule and the luxury of having a guy like Lankin.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Jason, they are paying big money. I think Kevin Lankin is the highest paid backup. I would have to do research on this in the history of the Canucks, like this regime, remember, does not like, remember Spencer, 900, and then Delia 900, they bucked up for a backup for a reason. And Lankin and Choja, he's a damn good goalie. It's an Olympic year. Demko is trying to get on that U.S. Olympic team.
Starting point is 00:37:10 There isn't, you know, Green overplayed Demko. Boudre overplayed him, and so did talk it. There is no reason overplay this guy anymore. Zero. sales. None. You have a good backup who you are paying. Go ask Calgary about their backup. You know, they'd love to have a Lankton. When you have a good backup like Lankton, there is no reason to worry about who's starting what game. Lankin did really well last year. So most he's ever played. And I think you can just take it really cool, calm with Demko. You don't have to overplay them. And I don't care who plays in Evanton tomorrow. You got a road trip coming up, right?
Starting point is 00:37:49 There's a lot of games in that, it's back east. There's a lot of games. You got, you got, look, I am not worried about them overplaying Demko. I don't think they will, but I have the utmost confidence. I think signing Lankton was an incredible thing. They are set in goal. I don't care who plays in Edmonton tomorrow. Like, they just, the key is for the first time in probably four years,
Starting point is 00:38:13 they don't have to overplay Demko. Yeah, and it could easily, work out like this even if they go back to Dempco Saturday in Edmonton they could give Lankin to start Monday at home against St. Louis and then Lankin in another
Starting point is 00:38:31 start in one of the two back-to-backs when they start their road trip because they start their road trip with a back-to-back in Dallas and in Chicago so I'll just be curious to see I think it'll be Demko
Starting point is 00:38:45 I do too I think it'll be Demko Saturday in Edmonton, but you know, they're going to get Lankin games early on, and they've got a couple of back-to-backs to start the month. What did you think of Braden Kutz last night?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Control his minutes, I loved it. He only got six in the first two periods, and then when the game got out of hand, they gave him more, more, more. I love the fact he was on the ice for the last shift. I love the fact, it was a tight game. There was a lot of power plays, so he kind of got pushed to the side in the first
Starting point is 00:39:16 40. There's no reason to overplay him. there's no reason. Control his minutes. You're going to control his minutes better at home than you are on the road. When you go on the road with that guy, you don't have the last change. So teams are going to be better equipped to handle Coots on the road because they're going to have the last change. But look, look, he doesn't look – every time you watch a kid play, he doesn't look out of place. Like you can't tell me that when you watch him play that, okay, that's an 18-year-old.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He was in junior last year, you know. He just looks – to me, absolutely. belongs, but I do worry because Teddy Blugher, I wonder if Teddy Bluger's not far away, what do you do when Teddy Bluger comes back? Because they showed a lot of confidence in Ratto for face-offs last night, right? You know. On the road, too, when you can't control your match-ups. Thank you. Thank you. So Coots on the road is going to have a tougher time. But I will say this. I don't know, like, for a fact, but if Teddy Blugher comes back quick, maybe even in Edmonton, who knows. I'm just saying, like, what do you do with the kid, right? We all know he's got a bright
Starting point is 00:40:23 future. You heard Trevor Lyndon on your station and our station talking about the importance of, you know, guiding an 18-year-old along. And he's got Trevor's maturity. You know, he's got maturity. He's a great kid, character guy. They're going to take it slow. And as Jim said, on your station, week by week, to see how, but they didn't overwhelm him last night. I like that. He only had six minutes first two parents. A couple of things on Coots. He had nine family members of the game last night. He's going to have a ton more tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Remember in the preseason game he had 40-50? Yeah. Did you see the picture with him and Jake DeBrusk on Twitter yesterday? I did. Oh, that's really. Yeah, it was like it was, how old was Brandon Coots when he took that? So I'm going to give you the goods. Cooch was 13, and that photo was taken at the Royal Glenora Club in Evanton.
Starting point is 00:41:16 What a small world, eh? I don't know how that that picture was taken, but when I looked into, I was told it was, I don't know what the, I don't know what the Royal Glenora Club is. Maybe it's a- Buddy, it is Edmonton's premier private, athletic, and social club with programs and services catering to every member of your family. It's got a pool.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Holy smokes. Brough, what did you live? I lived in Edmonton in 94, and what to ask when cars cost less. I don't know that. Well, I just Googled it. You, oh, Google. Okay. Google.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Everyone's using it. The Royal Glenora Club, beautiful pitcher, and what a small world we live in. And, you know, how many years later are their teammates? But I just think, and I love the shot that Trevor Linden took about Coutts has got maturity. He wishes some of his first rounders had it, and we know it doesn't take Einstein to figure out who Trevor was talking about. He was talking about Jake Vertanan.
Starting point is 00:42:18 and he was talking about McCann, Jared. Now, maybe they shouldn't have had them in the NHL. Did Trevor have any influence over that? Yeah. Well, that was Willie Dee, and hold it a second. That was Willie Dee, and that was Jim Benny. One more thing. Who was the president?
Starting point is 00:42:35 I know, I know. But doesn't it give you insight into, you know, the problems of McCann? Now, I'm going to give McCann credit. Unlike Jake, he's a $5 million player who scores over 30 goals a year. and he scored a nice goal last night. In McCann's defense, he matured and has become a really good national hockey league player. The other guy didn't do that. But I just thought it was a good insight from Trevor, the importance of maturity, just because,
Starting point is 00:43:06 but here's the problem with kids in entitlement. They're the best players in minor hockey, and bruff, you know this. They go up and down the ice, scored six schools games. They get to junior top players. Then they expect the same at the NHL level. It doesn't work like that. doesn't work like that you get to the NHL level I don't care for your first overall
Starting point is 00:43:22 pick you still got to work hard you know you still got to work hard nobody works harder than brayton coots go ask the people in Seattle it's a hardest working guy on the team and he's a captain at the age of 17 it was just good insight for me on the importance
Starting point is 00:43:38 of young draft picks first rounders who think they made it because they got drafted you haven't made it you got to go out and still earn it every day Rick this was great buddy thanks for taking the time to do it as all. Don't ask me about the Whitecaps game. I need the Whitecaps update.
Starting point is 00:43:54 So where do I find them on TV this weekend? I don't know. You know what? This hit is like the most, this part of the hit is the most popular. Because people come up and ask me all the time. They're like, did you ever figure out like get Rick the information
Starting point is 00:44:08 on how to watch a Whitecaps game? I'm like, I tried to explain to him. Like, I don't work for the Whitecaps. I don't work for any of the cable providers or streaming providers. Like I'm not IT. I'm not. not going to spend the time to find the white caps on TV. That's BS.
Starting point is 00:44:22 That's not up for me to find out where the hell they are on television. That's for the team to tell you A, and B, they should be on cable, just like the Lions games and the Canucks games. You realize it's a league contract with Apple TV? I don't care. I don't care. Oh, you don't care. I don't care. Now I'm doing the Rick.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Hey, Buffy, you realize they get $5 million a year from that, right? They're kind of laughing their way to the bank, too, right? You know what's even funnier Is that they won't release any public data About viewerships on those games Oh, I bet it's because it's so high They don't want to share the proprietary data It's too good
Starting point is 00:44:58 Rick, we'll leave it with this I can tell you on the front page of whitecapsfc.com There is a big, shiny advertisement saying that it's 6 p.m. this Saturday Caps Dallas It's on TSN. He's on cable?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yes. your weekend is planned my friend your weekend is planned go enjoy it buddy thanks for doing this slam it slam it slam it oh that was just a click that was disappointing
Starting point is 00:45:30 I bet it was disappointing do you think it was hard for Rick when cable was invented you could have said anything at the end of that everything is hard for Rick it's like I got these rabbit ears and they weren't fine someone texted in I love fuzzy pictures on TV someone texted him last week when he yelled at me
Starting point is 00:45:45 for the games not being on traditional cable, which again, I have zero control of it. And I said, remember when I suggested to use a fire stick? That was crazy. You busted out as matches. That's right. It's like asking a giraffe to try and peel an orange. It's not going to happen. I own apology to Rick Dollywall, the Vancouver Whitecaps, and the dozens of listeners that we have here on the Halford and Brough show on Sports 9-650. While I was correct in saying that the White Caps game against Dallas, a 6 p.m. start will in fact be on traditional cable on TSN. That matches on
Starting point is 00:46:24 Saturday, October the 18th. Okay. When Rick tries to tune in this weekend, and no, I'm not going to reach out to tell them otherwise. The White Caps will be playing in Orlando on Saturday, October 11th at 430. Right. Because we kind of made fun of that trip. It's very odd. There's just like a one game. Where are we going? Across the continent. I should have known when I was reading it. I'm like, this doesn't feel right. They got two games left, right? Dallas is the ultimate game.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Orlando is the penultimate game. Right. But Dallas is Decision Day in MLS, and it's the final home game in the year. That's where they all vote on who gets in. That's true. Mm-hmm. Okay. Anyway, so apologies to Rick, to the white caps, all the fans that wrote in and said,
Starting point is 00:47:06 Halford, you idiot, you screwed it up. I apologize. Okay. We got to do what we learned. This is interesting. It's dog what we learned. Both dogs have what we learned The dog days of fall
Starting point is 00:47:18 The dogs have what we learns On a Friday Only dogs I learned that dogs don't lay eggs Who knew Who knew Laddy, you're up What did you learn?
Starting point is 00:47:28 I learned that I have a congratulations To give out To my dad Who will be commuting into work For the final time today Congratulations on your retirement Dad
Starting point is 00:47:38 You are the final generation That gets to do it So drink it in Enjoy it Happy retirement Mr. Ballack is he retiring from the hot dog factory? No, he doesn't work at the hot dog factory. What's the hot dog pension like?
Starting point is 00:47:51 What are we having for the party? If it's hot dogs, I will lose my mind. I will murder all of you. Congratulations to Mr. Ballack. I'm sorry that we managed to take away from his glorious golden watch day. I just know because I work in radio, I'm probably never going to reach that point. I'll be producing shows for the rest of my life. Oh, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:48:13 You just, you will be retired. Forcibly. Forcibly. Yes. It won't be your decision. Not many, yeah, not a lot of people get to call their own shot anymore, but when they get to walk away and call it a day. You know, I'd like, I'd like a retirement ceremony without Green Day playing. I don't know if I get that chance.
Starting point is 00:48:31 No. But we won't. Not on this. No chance. Every day, I'm like, this could be it. I ain't like this. This could be the day where I've said, I've gone too far. Truly.
Starting point is 00:48:40 The humor went a little too askew. Mm-hmm. He wasn't woken. enough and then it's like no that's over now I think we get fired for being too woke now I bet hey I bet it's not we don't want to go broke
Starting point is 00:48:53 I bet it's not anyway congratulations to Mr. Balak give it a good moo cow other dog hey dog you're up yeah I've learned that there is a rare white beaver that has taken Ottawa by store what there is a rare white beaver that has taken the
Starting point is 00:49:12 Ottawa area by storm. This is where we get. This is where we lose our job. Elaborate, please. I can't even say all the jokes I want to say. Yeah. There's an expert on Canadian mammals that says this beaver has leucism, which is a genetic condition that causes a loss of pigmentation.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Logistic beavers are so rare. The Canadian Museum of Nature has a pelt in its collection that's more than a century old. And I like, they said they have a pelt in his collection. It's like, maybe that's why they're rare because you used to kill all of them. I don't know if that's the reason for it. But, I mean, yeah, so apparently white beavers are very rare. Wow.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Are not very many of them. And there is currently one in the Ottawa area that is terrorizing the neighborhood. Moj spotted one at the Roxy in 1984. You knew someone was going to do it. You knew someone was going to do it. There was no way. No way we were getting to the moo cow without someone doing it. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:50:05 Anyways, I just wanted to, I needed to mention the rare white beaver because it's quite a story. It's a natural phenomenon, you guys. Are we good? A wonder of nature. Did we get it out of our system? Are we good? Give me the moo cow. Mookow that beaver.
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