Halford & Brough in the Morning - The Best Of Halford And Brough 6/14/24

Episode Date: June 14, 2024

Mike & Jason look back at the previous day in sports, the boys do some Ask Us Anythings, plus they get the latest Canucks update from Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal.  This podcast is produced by Andy... Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to Halford and Brough. Reinhardt allowed it to hit to Parkhoff and ricocheted Rodriguez. Parkhoff scores! Luke Gastic's aboard as well, so lots of hosting coverage. Who does Luke cheer for? Yes, the Oilers. You know, I think we've showed that we can beat this team.
Starting point is 00:00:36 The line-of-tech to test determined that was a lie. If anyone can do it, it's the Oil. You sure about that? Ladies and gentlemen, the weekend. Good morning, Vancouver. 601 on a Friday. Sweet, sweet Friday. It is Halford and his brother-in-law at Sportsnet 650.
Starting point is 00:00:52 We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Fairview Slopes in Vancouver. Jason, good morning. Good morning. Adog, good morning to you. Good morning. Laddie, good morning to you as well. Hello, hello. Halford, brother-in-law of the morning is brought to you by the Dilawri family of Acura dealers.
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Starting point is 00:01:32 Kintec, that's what you're waiting for. Folks, it is a big sports weekend on the horizon. We are excited to be here. I cannot wait for the sports weekend. It's going to be pretty great. It's going to be awesome. You've got a bunch of different sports, so like the smorgasbord
Starting point is 00:01:45 of sports, including a very exciting Sunday, which could have a very good final round of the US Open, which will be fun as well. Exactly. We've got a bunch of stuff to get into today. We have the Stanley Cup final, which is dusted if you will.
Starting point is 00:02:01 We'll get into all that coming up. Guest list begins at 7 o'clock. AJ from AJ's Pizza is going to join us. It's an Ask Us Anything Friday here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. It's befitting that AJ is joining us because AJ's went from being a pizza place
Starting point is 00:02:17 to a Rangers bar to now a Euro bar. Euro championships, I mean, of course. Oh, okay. Right. Oh, okay. Right. Oh, he's like the Euro dance music? AJ's going to show up with thick glasses.
Starting point is 00:02:29 There's just a big eye blinking on the wall. No, actually, that's not a bad idea. I think you should lean into that for a night. Just have one Euro dance night. Beginning today with the start of the European championships, Scotland will play the hosts, the Germans. By the way, have you seen all the videos coming out of Munich? All the Scots that have invaded and have been drinking copiously and playing the bagpipes?
Starting point is 00:02:48 I hope there isn't a mob of 500. What was it that they were warning the English about? The mob of 500 Serbian hooligans looking for a fight? Instead of the 500 Serbian hooligans, it's an entire nation of Germans. Well, they've never threatened anyone. No, you'll be fine, Scotland. Have a good time today. Scotland and Germany kick off at noon.
Starting point is 00:03:11 AJ's is one of your homes in the Lower Mainland for the later games in the year. We'll talk to AJ at 7 o'clock. 7.05, Bob Stauffer from the mighty Chud 630 Ched Radio in Edmonton. It's going to be tough times talking to Bob this morning. I assume that he, along with everyone else in Edmonton, bitterly disappointed after the Oilers fell behind 0-3 in the Stanley Cup final last night. 730, it's the Moj.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Yes, it's the Moj. Bob the Moj Marjanovic is going to join us, the play-by-play voice of the BC Lions. Lions, of course, their home opener is tomorrow at BC Place against the Calgary Stampeders with the pregame concert from 50 Cent. Joining us at 8 o'clock, it's the man who calls them 50 cents, Rick Dollywall is going to join the program. Check TV, Donnie and Dolly, Canucks reporter,
Starting point is 00:03:58 will be joining us to talk about the latest with the Canucks free agents. I'm still laughing at him calling him 50 cents. Plural. There's like a pocket. 50 cents is going to be there? He thinks it's just two of them. He's got dimes and nickels in his pocket, and it all adds up to 50 cents.
Starting point is 00:04:15 We're going to talk to Rick about Elias Lindholm. I believe the Canucks are officially out on Lindholm. At least that's according to Elliott Friedman. We can see if Rick can corroborate that report. It sounds as though things with Nikita Zdorov are edging towards no, he's gone. But it should be decided within the next few days. So we'll talk to Rick about that at 8 o'clock. A reminder, we are giving away a $100 gift card to AJ's on East Broadway for the best Ask Us Anything.
Starting point is 00:04:42 The premise is quite simple. You ask us anything. We answer it throughout the show. I'm doing hand gestures on camera here. If you're watching on the live stream on Sportsnet Plus, $100 gift card to AJ's Pizza on his Broadway. Get him in now. Dunbar Lumber text line is 650-650.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Ask us anything. I'm not going to work in reverse on the guest list. We're going to get right to it. Laddie, without further ado, let's tell everybody what happened hey did you guys see the game last night no what happened i missed all the action because we know how busy your life can be what happened is brought to you by the bc construction safety alliance making safety simpler by giving construction companies the best in tools, resources, and safety training. Visit them online at bccsa.ca.
Starting point is 00:05:32 The Florida Panthers, at one time a legit prospect for the sad club, are now one win away from their first ever Stanley Cup championship. Alexander Barkov and Sam Reinhart had a goal and an assist each. Another masterful performance from Sergei Borovsky and Nett with 32 saves. And the Panthers held on after a late rally
Starting point is 00:05:52 to defeat the Edmonton Oilers 4-3 in Game 3 of the Stanley Cup Final. The Panthers now hold a 3-0 lead. The Oilers are now one game away from being swept. And this series, much like the NBA Finals, has been a bust.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Well, it has. I've enjoyed the games, though. The actual individual games have been entertaining. They say hockey is a game of mistakes, and that is true, but it's also a game of forcing mistakes, and the Panthers do that extremely well, as the Edmonton Oilers learned all too well last
Starting point is 00:06:26 night especially during a six-minute stretch in the second period when the Panthers scored three goals to go up 4-1 well they won 4-3 so that was a pretty uh key six-minute stretch uh florida's third goal uh not necessarily the winning goal was a masterpiece of four checking featuring sam bennett and matthew kachuk that goal hurt the entire province of alberta to watch because not only was it a goal against the edmonton oilers um it featured two guys that got away from the Calgary Flames. Granted, in very different circumstances, Matthew Kachuk was a star, and he forced his way out of Calgary, traded to the Florida Panthers. Sam Bennett was a, what, bust?
Starting point is 00:07:20 And then he goes to Florida, and he turns into one of their most important players. Rugged, forward, smart forward, effective forward. That was a good finish last night. Good mustache. Good mustache. We talked yesterday about how the Canucks may have to address the loss of a big body like Dakota Joshua. Without an effective forecheck, it's really hard to win in the NHL. It's like trying to win in the NFL without a pass rush.
Starting point is 00:07:45 You have to disrupt the breakout. You have to. It's not rocket science. It's a good analogy. Yeah. You can forecheck with speed. You can forecheck with will and determination or size and strength.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Whatever you got to do, you just have to disrupt it. And then you see if your opponent can handle it. If they do, if they can handle your four-track, you're kind of screwed. But the Oilers haven't handled it, and now they're screwed. And I was thinking about why this series has gone the way it is.
Starting point is 00:08:23 And I think the number one reason is goaltending. Because as much as I'm just talking about the forecheck, like Sergei Bobrovsky has outplayed Stuart Skinner. And, you know, Skinner, I don't think necessarily has been dreadful. Like he hasn't been awful. In fact, there have been stretches where he's been very good. But Sergei Bobrovsky has been great. He was great early last night when the Oilers had a ton of chance.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Like McDavid had a chance 10 seconds into the game where Bobrovsky had to make a good save. And that gave the Panthers a chance to take over that game and have that stretch in the second period where they scored a bunch of goals and went up 4-1. The Oilers, to their credit, I suppose, like the Dallas Mavericks, to their credit, against the Boston Celtics in game three, fought back to make it interesting in the end. But Boborowski made an incredible save off of, I think it was McLeod. I've got the audio if you'd like to hear it. Yeah, because this might have been the conspite trophy winning save
Starting point is 00:09:27 because I think he's going to win the conspite if the Florida Panthers finish off the Oilers, which everyone expects them to do. This was the key save of the night. Time for one more. McDavis gets to throw. Oh, Pabrowski. What a shot.
Starting point is 00:09:44 Oh, Pabrowski. a shot. That was hot. That looked like the equalizer. Spoiler, it was not the equalizer. Yeah. I mean, if that, if McLeod would have scored there, that place in Edmonton would have gone. Like, they would have honestly blown the roof off. You could have made the argument that this series would have been fundamentally altered.
Starting point is 00:10:03 If that goal had gone. If that goal had gone. If that goal had gone. That one single moment. Yeah. A three-goal comeback against a team that you struggled to score against so mightily would have really changed the energy in that series. But alas, Borowski made the save. So that's the number one reason why this series has gone the way it has. A couple other ones, though. ones though the Oilers have two of the
Starting point is 00:10:25 greatest players in the world but they also have a bunch of weak links I think we can all agree with that and the Panthers are their perfect foil because they've got players like Barkov and Forsling who can not necessarily shut down because, I mean, McDavid does have a few points in this series, Dreisaitl has none,
Starting point is 00:10:49 but they can limit those guys and they can limit top players. They also have a team that can force those weak links into mistakes. If you think about the blunders that were made last night, you know, I know Evan Bouchard overall is a good player. the blunders that were made last night. Um, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:06 I know Evan Bouchard overall is a good player. He's had a tough Stanley cup, but he's had a stuff, tough Stanley cup final, and he can be forced into mistakes and Barkoff forced him into a mistake. I think on Florida's first goal, that was an amazing effort by Barkoff, by the way.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Yeah. People were saying like, you're not going to get a more impressive secondary assist than the one that he got there. Yeah, he's just such a good player. There were mistakes by Stuart Skinner, weak link.
Starting point is 00:11:31 There was a bit of a mistake by Cody Cece, although that was mostly Skinner on that play where Skinner missed the puck behind the net, but Cece was there and everyone looked at Cece.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Darnell Nurse had a really tough night. And frankly, if the Oilers miss this series, you know, there's going to, it's going to be hard for him. It's going to be really hard for Darnell Nurse. And then you just, you know, you just had this team that really, through injury or whatever, they weren't deep enough because we should also mention that Evander Kane didn't even play last night.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Yeah, and that was the right call. He was so banged up to the point where when he was on the ice, he was completely ineffective. Then when he was off the ice, he had to stand up at the bench because it was too painful, whatever his injury is, to sit properly. I mean, I understand and I agree with you a lot that the goaltending has been the biggest difference here. And it's not because Skinner's played badly.
Starting point is 00:12:28 The one error last night aside. But Brofsky's been great. That being said, Edmonton's going to look back because they're done. I'm ready to say it. Oh, yeah. They're done and dusted. There might be a gentleman sweep or something.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Yeah, I think that would be, you know what? I would respect the hell out of the Panthers if they just threw game four. Like, you know what? We're going to start. Have the Oilers been streaky this year, though? Have they pulled off a bunch of wins in a row?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Well, that's what they were saying after. Okay, and I'll play the knob block audio yesterday. It'd be nice if a team could just say, like, okay, winning streak. No. Can I... Honestly... Were they all over the Florida Panthers?
Starting point is 00:13:02 All those wins? 16 in a row? Well, you know what? Equ in a row? Well, yes. You know what? Let's play the knob block audio now because he wasn't ready to concede really anything or really give a tip of the cap to the Panthers for winning all three games of the series thus far.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Some interesting remarks from Lloyd Braun. Here he is, Oilers head coach, following another loss to the Florida Panthers as his team is now down 0-3 in the Stanley Cup final. Chris, it's a deep hole. How do you keep the belief alive? And are you more psychologist than coach over the next 48 hours? I don't think there's much to be said.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I think there's a lot of belief. You look at our season this year, and we've had two eight-game winning streaks. We've had a 16 game winning streak when things go well we can really turn it turn it up and you know I think we've showed that we can beat this team I think there's a lot of belief in that it's not like we're getting out played and we're just you know that that team's better than us. I don't think there's anything that I need to say to the team and convince them otherwise.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You know, I think everyone in that dressing room feels the same way I do. Follow-up question for Chris. Have you watched the Stanley Cup final at all? I don't know how. I do know how. The goals are 11 to 2. It's the coach's job to stay positive. I get that part of it.
Starting point is 00:14:25 But this team has done nothing, nothing across the board that resembled the success they had during the regular season. They're 0-10 on the power play in this series. Maybe that's what he's saying, though. Like, if we can get the power play going or something along those lines. Pretty big if. If they were scoring power play goals through the first three games and still lost, then you could say,
Starting point is 00:14:52 at least we are doing the things that we did that led to these eight-game winning streaks. The big quintet of Dreisaitl, Hyman, McDavid, Bouchard, Nugent Hopkins, they're five leading scorers do you know how many goals those guys have in the first three games of the Stanley Cup Final
Starting point is 00:15:08 zero like that is unbelievable to me I mean and I understand dry side who have been the the
Starting point is 00:15:17 the Oilers scorers it was Warren Fogle yep Broberg Broberg at home
Starting point is 00:15:24 and McLeod. Those are their four goal scorers over three games. And if you're saying, well, awesome, they're getting depth scoring, I'm like, no, that's their front line scoring right now. That's not depth scoring when they're the only one scoring. Those are their top guys. You cannot tell me that this Edmonton team has shown anything through the first three games that suggests that they're ready
Starting point is 00:15:44 to flip the switch. If anything, I'd be gravely concerned that this thing's going to end in four because there's the power play to me is the big one. I would never have imagined that this team
Starting point is 00:15:59 with everyone there on the power play, all the usual guns still firing. The guys that we saw score at will against the Canucks in the first half of that second round series, still there, still gainfully employed as Edmonton Oilers, 0 for 10. They had opportunities last night. They were 0 for 3 on the power play last night. It's just not happening.
Starting point is 00:16:19 And a lot of the things that they were doing, like even just the screens in front or the chaos and traffic were like, where's Zach Hyman in this series? He's had a few chances. He's had chances. But for a guy that scored 50 during the regular season, I mean, I understand that the 50 goal total might have been inflated a little bit. Like, he's not really
Starting point is 00:16:38 a 50 goal scorer. My word. You've got to do something at this time of year. Is Bobrowski in their head? He's got to be. He's got to be. Do you remember, I hate to bring this up, but do you remember how it didn't feel like the Canucks were ever going to score on Tim Thomas? Yeah. And they were overthinking things. Tim Thomas was so good in that series.
Starting point is 00:16:55 Tim Thomas was a 967 in that playoff run. Is that it? And in the cup final, Bobrovsky is 984. Best all-time. Best all-time save percentage in the final. Here's the thing. When Florida went to the Stanley Cup Final last year, I think we all can agree that that series was over
Starting point is 00:17:07 before it started because they were being held together by Athletic Tape and Tortle, basically. And they were getting blown out and they lost 9-3 in the last game and everything. Outside of Kane clearly being hurt and Nurse clearly being hurt and I guess Drysaddle's
Starting point is 00:17:23 playing injured, but I'm not getting the same vibe that they're just limping their way in. They just can't figure out how to score on Florida because you're right what you said earlier. Florida exposes probably the two biggest issues on this team. And one of them is that the Edmonton Oilers are prone to the big mistake. And the way that Florida suffocates you and chokes the life out of you, they make those mistakes happen. And they did it twice last night.
Starting point is 00:17:51 The other one, the end of that game, watching Aaron Eckblad single-handedly kill, what was it, 25 seconds at the end of the game, just pinning the puck in the corner. That was incredible strength. The Florida Panthers are a harder i'm gonna say it they're harder than edmonton yeah they just are and that was a real cross check-a-thon in the corner there right but it did not get the puck away from ekblad yeah right well i think forsling was doing half of it well forsling was yeah i mean but that's that's a good point to bring up
Starting point is 00:18:19 because in a moment where the referees are like you see these silver things in our hands the metal things the whistles we're not using those. It was just like, it was frontier justice. Whoever wanted to decide the game was going to decide the game in that moment. And Florida choked out 25, 30 seconds. The end of that game was so anticlimactic. Like you could hear the whistles go and the horn blowing.
Starting point is 00:18:41 There was no noise because everyone knew. They're like, well, Florida has sort of out-toughed us here. There were so many times last night that the crowd was so, so excited. And then there was a big mistake that the Panthers usually forced. It wasn't just out of nowhere, but the crowd was just like, oh. And it went silent in there um the goal obviously the stewart skinner blunder behind the net came in the face of the oilers playing really well and then the oilers kind of lost it for a bit and then bennett and kachuk and that was mostly bennett that whole play i mean kachuk
Starting point is 00:19:23 made a nice pass to bennett but, but Bennett was on the forecheck. I think Bennett was the one that got the stick in on Darnell Nurse, turned it over to Matthew Kachuk, who gave it back to Bennett, and he scored. That was a good play by the Panthers, but it was also a complete failure of a breakout by the Oilers. Darnell Nurse made a bad play, but his teammates kind of bailed on him. They were like, all right, we're good to go.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Let's go. They were like, let's get the puck out first. And then another goal by the Panthers was 4-1, and the place was just shell-shocked. And again, credit the Oilers for making it close.
Starting point is 00:20:05 They got a couple of goals from unlikely players to make it 4-3, but even as a guy that was, I know I said I was cheering for a game seven, but last night I was like, come on, Panthers, let's go. I didn't feel particularly nervous because it just felt like the Panthers
Starting point is 00:20:23 were going to kill that off. I thought when they just know their game. When McDavid, we played the Bobrovsky save where McDavid had the centering pass to McLeod. And I actually think he was trying to bank it off Bobrovsky. I don't think he was trying to put a reverse pass megging through Bobrovsky out front. But that was probably the only time where I was like, oh, I wonder if they've got the juice to make a push here because they were pushing. And I thought that 4-4 was a possibility. But as the third period went further along, you could see Florida almost say, I think we dodged a bullet there. Like that play and that save was their best opportunity because it was. After that, they had nothing. Someone texted in. I swear to God, this is a real text into the Dunbar Lumber text message in basket.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Hi, Halford. Have you watched the games? Who has outplayed the other team in seven of nine periods? I'm sorry. Is there someone out there that is honestly going to tell me that the Edmonton Oilers, who are down 3-0 in the Stanley Cup final, and who don't have a goal from their five leading scorers, have outplayed the Florida Panthers in seven of the nine periods that have been played.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah, that's why you just got to stay away from natural stat trick, right? Because a lot of it is score effects, or that's just wrong, though. That's just wrong. Even if you outplayed. The Panthers won all three periods in game two. I'll give you a couple of the periods from the first game, but what are you looking for, a participation ribbon? You lost 3-0.
Starting point is 00:21:54 You did not beat Sergei Bobrovsky in game one. I mean, there are a lot of issues right now. If I was... Put it this way. If I was an Edmonton Oilers fan right now, I would be bitterly disappointed because the things that we have built ourselves upon, way if i was an evan to noelers fan right now i would be bitterly disappointed because um the things that we have built ourselves upon high octane offense dynamite power play top heavy scoring has just gone completely silent at the worst time of the year and i know that the florida
Starting point is 00:22:17 panthers have a lot to do with that but there's got to be like for conor mcdavid to not have a goal in the stanley cup final to me is a very glaring thing well dry side to not have a goal in the Stanley Cup Final, to me, is a very glaring thing. Well, dry side on not having a point. And being minus three last night. By the way, speaking of minus minus. No, I think he approved it to minus one. Oh, okay. Because I love plus minus. He was minus three at once.
Starting point is 00:22:34 I love plus minus. It's my favorite stat. I'm hoping we can bring it back. I believe Darnell Nurse went into last night at minus 14, and I think he exited at minus 16, which is a truly remarkable thing for a top-flight defenseman on a team that has won enough games to go to a Stanley Cup final to have that bad of a plus-minus.
Starting point is 00:22:55 It just doesn't happen. I love plus-minus as a stat. It's a lot of fun. Okay. Bobrowski's going to win the consummate, right? Yes. Is there anyone else that could possibly, probably not? Guy was more important than the goalie.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Gustav Forsling at this point might win it. Yeah. It's Bob. But it's going to be Bob. That's exciting. That stat you pulled actually I think might have been before the two goals. No, I think it was posted last night. Really?
Starting point is 00:23:22 Yeah. Best to save percentage. Was it posted after the game though? It was posted last night. Really? Yeah. Best to save percentage. Was it posted after the game, though? It was posted... I think it was after the game. Okay. This is the radio that everyone tunes in for. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:23:34 It was posted halfway through. Thank you. Thank you. Now you have to say the important part, Brough. You were right. Yeah. We got a lot more to get. That's the most important thing.
Starting point is 00:23:43 You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You were right. Yeah. We got a lot more to get. That's the most important thing. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. All right. We're going to ask us anything from Nick from Pit Meadows. Ask us anything, Mike and Jason. If you had to adopt one of the dogs, who would it be and why? Good question. Fair question.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Laddie's pointing to himself. No, it wouldn't be Laddie. Laddie has behavioral problems sometimes. Laddie acts out to himself. No, it wouldn't be Laddie. Laddie has behavioral problems sometimes. Laddie acts out. I do? Yeah. See? Right there.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Right there. That's the kind of attitude of the dog park that I don't want to have to deal with. I think a dog might be, he has a lot of anxiety, so sometimes he has trouble socializing with other dogs. And I'll be honest with you, I've seen his diet and I'm wondering about the vet bills. Yeah, that's true. A-Dog got into chocolate again last night. I have fire and passion, you guys.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yeah, I don't necessarily want that in a dog. I want a dog that just wants to curl up with me on the couch and watch TV. And I think I'd have that with A-Dog. That is A-Dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Speaking of how wet. By the way, Pedro is very gassy.
Starting point is 00:24:48 I was going to say, with a dog, you've got to watch out for that. Just dog food. Can of beans. Does anyone else, any of the other listeners, I know none of you guys own dogs, but any listeners out there? My dog, those... Was he gassy? The dog farts are pretty brutal at times.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Yeah, yeah. Now some people are going to text me like, you're not feeding him the right food or whatever like okay fine whatever he's a he's a mexican street dog he's pretty happy with what he's getting right he's trash off the street it is uh it is it is it is aggressive yeah it can be pretty crazy and he farts in the car a lot i don't know if it's always necessarily like related a bad diet, because my dog, when we were kids, he ate better than we did. My parents bought him the best food you could buy. Yeah, we got him really good food.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, so I don't know if it's that exactly. What did they give you? Whatever he didn't eat. Katie. Chicken nuggets again. A buddy of mine had a French bulldog, and he was a little bit younger back in the day, so he didn't really... The French bulldog or your buddy?
Starting point is 00:25:49 Both. The French bulldog is no longer with us. Weren't we all a bit younger back in the day so he didn't really uh the french bulldog everybody both the french bulldog is no longer with us are we all a little younger back in the day um he was like he's sort of like a chillax dog owner and he was also in his 20s so he wasn't as like you're not as diligent right you think like i eat like crap the dog and eat like me and the dog we're like buddies right you throw your arm around the cheeseburger he eats the cheese burger you're both smoking cigarettes at the same time yeah uh so pedro does like mcdonald's fries right you see you're 48 you should know better but um so one time the dog was obviously like very odorous and i was like what did the dog eat he's like oh he had my leftover congee i was like dude i don't. You don't look so good over there. Some people say that it's not like the worst thing, but I'm like, it's like they would be.
Starting point is 00:26:31 He would order extra food when he would order out from a restaurant and then just give it to the dog. I'm like, you're putting that dog's intestinal system through like just chaos right now. It's a roller coaster in that portal dog. Another ask Us Anything. Jason from Burnaby asks us anything. If the Toronto Maple Leafs offered each of you $1 million per year to be their pre- and post-game radio show host, would you do it?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yes. A million dollars? In radio? Yeah. For Pedro. Pedro would expect me to do that job. I'd go to Edmonton for that. I could fake enthusiasm for the Leafs. Sure. That's a huge dope-brainer.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah. I'm sure once in a while I'd slip up. These losers can't do anything right. Yeah, he's losing. But then people in Toronto might be like, this guy speaks the truth. See, that's what I'm wondering. If you went in, guns a-blazing, and were a loathing Maple Leafs host, you would appeal to the fan base that identifies as... It's not like the Oilers media.
Starting point is 00:27:32 They're much harder on their team. As long as you don't take shots at the fan base. That's the one thing you don't want to do. For example, if a radio station were i don't know like starting up right in in the market like vancouver and like one of the one of the major first hires like you wouldn't want to be the guy that goes in there and immediately starts taking shots at the fan base that's insane you can take shots at the team or the organization but but when but when you're arguing with the fan base like that's listeners um that's probably something that you don't want to do i don't know if anyone would but when you're arguing with the fan base like your listeners
Starting point is 00:28:05 that's probably something that you don't want to do I don't know if anyone would ever be crazy enough to do that people that don't know you and inherently might not like you because you're new
Starting point is 00:28:13 and you've got a reputation you shouldn't go there and maybe if you've got kind of like a smirk like a natural smirk I mean if I were to move to a new market I definitely wouldn't want
Starting point is 00:28:20 to insult the people that are listening to me Colin and Tawasin ask us anything. In honor of Father's Day, what has been your experience in coaching your own kid in sports? Any advice for other dad coaches? Yeah, do it. Take the job and do it.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Don't think twice about it. Don't think about all the negatives that come along and the amount of work and the amount of annoying parents and children. Eliminate all the negatives and just do it. The one thing I'll say is that you're only going to get a brief window to be able to coach your kids. Because eventually they'll either get too old to where they don't want you around anymore. Or maybe they'll advance to a part where they have like better more uh schooled coaches or they'll stop playing sports altogether yeah and that opportunity will be gone and you'll probably regret not having those moments because it's one of those rare moments where in the parent child relationship sometimes you don't have anything to talk about sometimes the kid doesn't want to talk sometimes you don't want to talk
Starting point is 00:29:23 sometimes you're like yeah you've always got you can always talk about why didn't you get that puck in deep you always play the blame we've gone over this in every car ride home you can always play you gotta get that puck deep the blame game is a fun game because you can point it at your child or if you want to bond you can point it at other children on the team all i'm saying is just do it just dive in head first even if you don't know anything about the is just do it. Just dive in head first. Even if you don't know anything about the sport, just do it. I highly recommend doing it. It's a very, very rewarding experience. That is the most genuine, authentic thing I think I've ever said on the radio.
Starting point is 00:29:53 And it feels kind of weird. So let's get back to a mocking what we learned or ask us anything. Ask us anything. Who did the Canucks trade Forsling for? Adam Klendenning. And how do you feel about OEL getting a Stanley Cup? I'm happy for him. If he wins the Cup, I'm happy for him.
Starting point is 00:30:09 That Taj tweet was making the rounds last night that OEL will be the first player in NHL history to win the Stanley Cup while on the Canucks payroll. That's awesome. I'd have to go back and just make sure. I'd have to go back and just make sure.
Starting point is 00:30:24 Can we have a parade for just one guy? We can have a Ray Bork-esque sure. I mean, I hope there's a banner for that. I'd have to go back and just make sure. Can we have a parade for just one guy? We can do a Ray Bork-esque parade in Boston. Remember they had a parade in Boston for him? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can we do that for OEL? I mean, that's similar. We could bring the cup and we could be like, congratulations, also sorry.
Starting point is 00:30:36 You didn't get a really fair shake. Well, you kind of got a fair shake, but. That one to me, the OEL one, I'll always feel a bit guilty as speaking as a representative of the fan base and the media that covered him because, you know, a lot of the, he didn't play well when he was here.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And I think the healthy scratch was, that was the low point. That was justified. He wasn't doing the things that they wanted him to do. Yeah. I think they wanted him to be more of a guy that's going to go out there and sacrifice and block shots. Right. You know, and he didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And in Florida, he's in the role that fits him best now. He's a third pairing guy. He's played like 12 minutes a night sometimes. And the most important part, he's at a contract that is reflective of the role that he's playing on the team. If someone was to offer me that kind of money back in the day, I would have not thought twice about it. You're signing. He signed it a long time
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Starting point is 00:32:49 Kintec, Canada's favorite orthotics provider, powered by thousands of five-star Google reviews. Sore feet, what are you waiting for? Kintec, that's what you're waiting for. To the phone lines we go. Rick Dollywall joins us now on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. What up, Rick? How's it going, boys?
Starting point is 00:33:02 Good, man. What's happening? Are you excited for 50 Cents tomorrow? I'm going to the game, but at 4 o'clock. I'm not a 50 Cents guy. No? So I'm not going to go. I think Taylor's going.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Taylor's a 50 Cents guy. He's a 50 Cents guy, but I'm not. I'll be there at game time, but I'm not going to check this out. He's not my cup of tea. He's just not there. What's your cup of tea? 80s. 80s music.
Starting point is 00:33:28 That's all I listen to. April Wine. You like April Wine, Rick? Oh, of course I do. Everything in the 80s goes. That's why I listen to your station that's in your building. Kiss FM. What's it called?
Starting point is 00:33:40 No, Jack. Jack FM. Yeah. Yeah, I listen to Jack. What's your favorite 80s band? Were you a big Duran Duran guy? Oh, no, Jack, Jack FM. Yeah. Yeah, I listen to Jack. What's your favorite 80s band? Were you a big Duran Duran guy? Oh, I turned hungry like a wolf yesterday. I'm telling you, Duran Duran was the cat's ass in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:33:56 They were good. Anything in the 80s. I'll be here till midnight if you start asking me about bands in the 80s. You know what I mean? Yeah. Was the cat's ass a saying in the 80s? I it was no that was early 90s when i started covering junior hockey up north i heard that a lot and i was like where's this coming from the players were using it and i was like i started using it too uh rick what uh does the jalen chatfield contract say
Starting point is 00:34:22 number one about jalen chatfield, but more importantly, I think to Canucks fans, the overall free agent market? I, you know, I heard you two talking about it and I thought it was a fascinating discussion and I got some background for you. First of all, Chatfield signed in Carolina yesterday. He was on the Canucks radar. If he would have hit July 1st, the Canucks would have been interested in the right-shod defenseman who started his career right here in Vancouver in 2017, signing out of the OHL Windsor. Now, Chapfield signed for three years and $3 million. He would have got a whole lot more in the market, but two things.
Starting point is 00:34:58 He likes it in Carolina, and he loves playing for Rod Brindamore. Now, another reason players remain in Carolina is cost of living. It's much, much cheaper to live there. That is something the owner in Carolina reminds all agents during negotiation time that it is much cheaper to live in Carolina. Now, that is something that hurts Vancouver and Toronto. Nobody wants to pay $6,000, $7,000, $8,000 a month for rent, and especially players with families. So talking to a few agents last night, I think the Canucks and Leafs are
Starting point is 00:35:33 going to have to pay a little bit more for players in the $1 to $3 million range come July 1st, because Vancouver and Toronto are two of the most expensive cities in the world to live in. That's just the bottom line. Cost of living and taxes, it's not always about what team you're going to go to, or who you're going to play with, or who's the coach, or, oh, I want to play in LA or Florida. There is a ton of things to consider for UFA players and their agents, especially for those players who are in the $1 to $3 million range. These guys don't have 20-year careers these guys careers are short they got to think about where their money works they got to think
Starting point is 00:36:10 about like like i'm telling you i it scares some people uh with the rent in vancouver and toronto that's the bottom line and by the time your taxes take half of your salary, I mean, you know, and they're not long careers. These guys are being smarter with a lot of the decisions they make. Jake Gensel, I assume if he signs in Vancouver, he will be able to afford the rent. But what are the chances that he does sign in Vancouver? Well, he won't be in the one to three million range. I'll tell you that much. Look, lots of Gensel talk this week if i did i just threw it out there if you're the
Starting point is 00:36:49 canucks and you're willing to give lindholm seven million just add one or two million and you'll get gansel who would give petterson the winger he so desperately needs the need is more at wing than center for this team you know the report that gansel only wants to sign in the USA as a free agent on July 1st, that's just not true. Gensel was very excited at the trade deadline about the possibility of ending up in Vancouver, and I'll tell you why. He's got a history with Rutherford, Alvin, and Tawkin. Why would he not be okay coming to Vancouver as a free agent and playing with Patterson?
Starting point is 00:37:20 That would be enticing for a scoring winger like Gensel. There is a match to be made here, guys, if both sides can get it done. Philip Hronik, the one thing that I've wondered about this is, do they need to figure out this Hronik situation before the draft, or at the very least before free agency on July 1st? Because if they don't have a resolution on that, then they need to think about alternatives, but the alternatives could be available on July 1st.
Starting point is 00:37:49 That's a great question. There's so many dominoes here. I'll get into later why certain agents are being talked to and certain ones are not. Here's what I know on Heronic. I know there's a lot of trade talk right now around Heronic, but I really feel signing him is still priority number one. First pair right shot D, they don't grow on trees. If they trade Heronic, they're going to be right back where they were two years ago. And that's looking for a Quinn Hughes partner, which is not easy.
Starting point is 00:38:16 There is a built-in system to assure that he will be signed and it's called arbitration, but the Canucks won't like Arb because Heronic's got a good arbitration case that can get him a healthy raise. I'm imagining over $7 million. At least it won't be the $8 million which he asked for. I did hear some positive talks a while back for Heronic, but then I heard it got quiet again. This is going to be a fascinating one, Brock, for me because you understand the player is really good, but you understand, like if I were the Canucks, the offer I would have made to Heronic was in the high sixes. A lot of people I talk to in the hockey world feel that high sixes is a fair
Starting point is 00:38:56 offer to Heronic. I can't find anybody thinks this guy's worth 8 million. Like I just can't find anybody. I do believe high sixes or low sevens get it done but clearly they've had all year they've known the numbers all year why are we in the 11th hour why are we facing the door that leads to arbitration because obviously clearly they're not close heronic probably doesn't want to go to arbitration either because that would result in uh what a one-year deal?
Starting point is 00:39:26 Or a two-year deal? And then what happens if he has an off-season next season? Then he would be trying to negotiate on a lesser performance. Here's another one for you. How about just signing in Vancouver and playing with Quinn Hughes for six, seven years? You'll come out of that contract contract and you'll still get another contract because if you get to play with Quinn Hughes, Quinn Hughes gets people paid. Look at Luke Shen.
Starting point is 00:39:53 I mean, Luke Shen got a tremendous number in Nashville. You know, Chris Pan had left here, you know, and he got a good number in Calgary. Quinn Hughes gets people paid. Why not play? If the Canucks trade him to a lesser team and he doesn't have Calgary. Quinn Hughes gets people paid. Why not play? If the Canucks trade him to a lesser team and he doesn't have a guy like Quinn Hughes, I mean, I just don't understand why his camp just doesn't say, let's meet in the middle
Starting point is 00:40:14 and get this done. Because if you get traded, that certainly might not be a team that he wants to go to. Yeah, exactly. Joshua, Myers, Bluger, Zdorov, any updates on those pending UFAs? Okay, first of all, those four guys you just mentioned, I think they are still in the mix
Starting point is 00:40:30 to be re-signed by the Canucks. Joshua, Myers, Bluger, and Zdorov. Let's go to Joshua first. He does want to return. The Canucks do want him back, but he's also two weeks away from his biggest NHL payday, and I'm not hearing much is going on there. Canucks are very well aware of Joshua's number. They just can't get there right now. Can they get there if they clear up some cap space with an Elian McKay of trade? That's possible. There is not going to be any shortage of interest in Joshua. If he hits July 1st, I'm hearing double-digit teams after this guy.
Starting point is 00:41:01 You know what? Big guy like that with soft hands, kills penalties, defends teammates on the ice late in the game, defending a lead and also on the ice talking to Adam trying to get the tying goal. He's going to have a lot of interest on July 1st. Hey, I checked in on Zdorov
Starting point is 00:41:17 this morning. Still very quiet. The want from the player, the want from the agent is to re-sign in Vancouver. Dan Milstein from day one when Zdorov the agent is to re-sign in Vancouver. Dan Milstein from day one when Zdorov was acquired wanted to re-sign here. The desire is still the same today. I'm not hearing any sense of urgency towards Zdorov, which kind of surprises me, but that one could come down simply to dollars and cents. You're going to have to take the emotion out of that that one because he won over so many fans in the playoffs with his play but i think the maple east are looking for a lot of defensemen
Starting point is 00:41:51 and while they got they're looking for two and i think zadoroff's going to get a good long look there if he hits the market uh but i think um zadoroff's going to be interesting to me it's been very very quiet on that front uh sam lafferty he's the pending ufa yep there's been very, very quiet on that front. Sam Lafferty. He's the pending UFA. Yep. There's been talks with Lafferty's agent. There's more expected next week, I believe, next week. The door is not closed 100% on his return. 13
Starting point is 00:42:15 goals, guys, but he saw his ice time decline to 11 minutes per game in the second half. The first half, he was up around 13 to 15. He is still one of the best four-checkers on the team. Provides energy and pace. $1 13 to 15. He is still one of the best forward checkers on the team, provides energy and pace. $1.1 million. I'm not going to say he's gone yet,
Starting point is 00:42:31 but lots of teams are going to have interest in that guy if he hits the market. I think maybe one foot is out the door, but I think there's more talks planned. But I think his camp was surprised he wasn't killing penalties i think with his energy his pace um i think they expected to kill penalties we'll see what happens there but
Starting point is 00:42:52 uh i'm not closing the door 100 but um it's going to be interesting to see what happens here guys i want to get myers and bluger in um both agents for those guys are willing to be patient with the connoxion because i heard you talking about myers this morning bro those guys, are willing to be patient with the Canucks. Because I heard you talking about Myers this morning, Brough. Both agents are willing to be patient with the Canucks until they figure out some top six forwards and top six D. Gotcha. Sorry, top four D. I'm not worried about Myers re-signing. Both sides want to sign.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Both sides know the range it's going to take to get it done. I'll be very surprised if Myers doesn't re-sign. Lots of dialogue with Bluger as well. Not hearing anything negative there. I do want to say something. You asked about if Lafferty leaves, if Lafferty leaves, the Canucks would have interest in forward Brandon DeHame at the trade deadline.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I'm told that he, well, they had interest in DeHame at the trade deadline. I'm told that interest has not gone away. He would be a great fit in the fourth line, kills penalties. And that guy is tough. Yeah, what kind of player is he? I don't know too much about him. I just know that he is tough as nails. He can kill penalties.
Starting point is 00:43:59 He can be a great, if you look at the Canucks' fourth line, I mean, if Lafferty leaves, there's going to be an opening. And don't you guys think it's time for Pod Colson to become an everyday NHL player? Yeah, well, it's time. And we were talking about this, Rick, just in general. I mean, most of their main penalty killers are unrestricted free agents,
Starting point is 00:44:18 so they might have to completely remake that group. But you're also watching the Florida Panthers really make it tough on the oilers to break the puck out of their own end and that's because they've got probably the best four check in the league and you know if they lose lafferty who you mentioned is one of their best four checkers when he's on uh and if they lose dakota joshua you know know I'm a little bit concerned yep that they're gonna have to replace those guys and and listen I I I trust this management group knows this and and has their eye on on a few players but we all know that half of the NHL game is really can you
Starting point is 00:45:01 break the puck out and or can you uh disrupt the breakout with the four check like that's a lot of the nhl game and so that's what the connects are going to have to deal with they're going to have to regardless of who it is they're going to have to sign some guys that kill penalties and get in on the four check you know i'm also like like like jason you okay we can talk about the you know the penalty the penalty killers are UFAs too. The size, you know, if Zdorov and Joshua leave, that's a good chunk of the size. One of the greatest compliments the Canucks got in the playoffs
Starting point is 00:45:36 is they were hard to play against. And, you know, Zdorov was a major reason why. You know, you love the goals that he scored against Nashville and Edmonton, but the way he got under the Oilers' skin in the big hits, you, not only are you
Starting point is 00:45:50 worried about, but then again, if Zdorov leaves, I am pretty confident there's a guy in the lower mainland the Canucks can get in Brendan Dillon
Starting point is 00:45:58 who would be an absolute perfect fit to replace Zdorov in terms of size, kills penalties, blocks shots. He doesn't bring everything that Zdorov brings, though. Brendan Dillon, I like him.
Starting point is 00:46:07 He's a local guy. I liked him when he played for the Sharks. He was on that third pair that went to the Stanley Cup final against the Pittsburgh Penguins. He's a good player, but he's not Zdorov. No, okay, I'm with you. But also, by the same token, who else is on the free agent market that is him? Well, that's why I think Zdorov's going to get a lot of money if he goes to July 1st.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Oh, for sure he is. Like, if Milstein doesn't cut the deal in Vancouver, that's another guy. Zdorov, when he hits July 1st, is going to have double-digit teams after him. And I think that, you know, but back to Dylan, but he's not going to cost you six times six, though, Jason. No. You know, and are you willing to give six times six to a third pair guy? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That was played in the third pair, actually, the entire playoffs. It's a really challenging offseason for the Canucks because they not only have to deal with all these issues and potential players walking away from them, there's expectations now. You know, there's always been like these expectations. This will be the season that they go to the playoffs or whatever. But like now the fan base has gotten used to winning
Starting point is 00:47:17 and now expects the playoffs. And I imagine on the ownership side, on the business side, they probably enjoyed all those home playoff dates and all the money that delivered to the bottom line. So they don't want to take a step back. No, they don't. And obviously, I don't want to rule any of these guys out. I always say one phone call can change everything, Jason. And we have two weeks to July 1st.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And you do have a veteran guy like Jim Rutherford in the market who has been through this before. You don't think he's had a July 1st facing with 8-9 UFAs or 8-9 RFAs. He's had that before. They have a plan. I'm pretty confident that they're going to lose some guys. If you thought they were going to get all these guys back, that just wasn't going to happen. They're going to get some of the guys back, and they're going to lose some of the guys, and then they'll go back on July 1st and try to get some of that stuff that they lost they'll try and get it back on july 1st i'm more excited than worried because there is a trust level
Starting point is 00:48:15 that i have with this management group uh that they do have a plan and they're able to pull off a plan but um when do you think we're going to start hearing some news like is it as soon as the cup final is over we might start hearing some news or could we hear some in the next couple of days a deal can well i guess the cup final could be over in the next couple of days like i told you bluger and myers have been told to be patient and they've been told to be patient jason for a reason because we're working on other stuff. They're clearly working on trades. They're clearly working on trying to get rid of McCabe. There's no question that McCabe is out there and they're trying to free up that cap space.
Starting point is 00:48:54 So some of these guys you can't sign because they don't have the cap space. But if you free it up and if you do get rid of McCabe, there's some extra money to go and get Dakota Joshua done. Like Dakota Joshua to me is, you know, people say to me all the time, why can't the Canucks just give him what he wants? Well, he's asking for a big jump and he's probably asking for a good term. You can't give every single, it's like you guys. If you guys go in every year asking for a big raise, your boss is going to say, hit
Starting point is 00:49:21 the road. You can't give everyone a big raise. If we ask for it once. Not every year, once. And the way our industry road. You can't give everyone a big raise. If we ask for it once. Not every year, once. The way our industry is going, no one's getting a freaking raise. But listen, you can't just give everybody what they want. You just can't. You can't, or you'll go bankrupt.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Any business knows that. But all these guys, and I'll say it again, all these free agents help the Canucks have their best year in 13 years. They're all asking for raises. Nobody's sitting there, other than Myers, nobody's sitting there saying, okay, we'll take what we had last year. It's just not the way the world works.
Starting point is 00:49:53 And that's the problem with these selfish professional athletes. Right, Rick? You said it, not me. And selfish sports guys. Rick, thanks for doing this today, bud. Enjoy the Lions game tomorrow. Yeah, Lions, 4 o'clock starts. I don't know about anything else. Enjoy all the Euro Cup action, too.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I'm sure you'll be dialed in. I'm in on that. I'm in that. You got me going, Alfred. One thing about you, when you talk soccer in the mornings, it gets me going. It gets the soccer vibes going. That's the only thing I want to accomplish, Rick, is to get you going. Thanks, buddy. Have a good weekend. You're listening to
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