Halford & Brough in the Morning - The Best of Halford and Brough 7/24/25

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Mike Halford & guest host Josh Elliott-Wolfe look back at the previous day in sports, plus they chat with Canadian tennis star Vasek Pospisil about his playing career and recent retirement announcemen...t.  This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to Halford and Brough. And now Springer coming in behind him. And somehow the Blue Jays get two runs out of that. Cleveland Browns, they're right in their own obituary. I thought you said Troy McClary was dead. No, what I said was he sleeps with the fishins. Good, Marty Manker is 6-0-1 on a Thursday. Happy Thursday everybody. It is Halford, it is Brough.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Oh no wait, it's Josh Elliott-Wolf. We are coming to you live from the Kintec studios in beautiful Fairview slopes in Vancouver. Josh, good morning to you. Good morning. Adog, good morning to you. Good morning. And get this, regular Zach is back. Regular Zach, good morning to you as well. Good morning. Halford and Brough for the morning is brought to you by Sands and Associates BC's first and trusted choice for that help with over 3,000 five-star reviews. There's them online at Sands-Trustee.com We are coming to you live from the Kintec studio Kintec footwear and orthotics working together with you in step So in case you're wondering who's in studio today at sportsnet 650 it is a never-ending cast of characters here. Normally it's Jason and I.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Jason's vacationing. So Jamie Dodd was in for the first half of the week and now it's Josh Elia-Wolf for the back half of the week. Producer Andy, A-Dog remains the same. Laddie's on vacation. Basketball Ben was in, now he's out. Now it's regular Zach. Welcome back, regular Zach.
Starting point is 00:01:43 We're going through operators at an unsustainable pace we're gonna run out of guys by Friday but hey we've only got two days left in the week tomorrow's Friday today we worry about today we got a big guest list ahead for a Thursday here on the Halford and Bref show on Sportsnet 650 guest list today begins at 630 Vasik Paspasil is to join the program. Vernon native, good British Columbian kid, Canadian tennis icon has announced his retirement from the game after an 18 year professional career that saw him win a Wimbledon doubles title. Also a Davis Cup win representing his country on the grandest stage.
Starting point is 00:02:20 His farewell tourney, the NBO begins this weekend in Toronto. We'll talk to Vasik at 6.30 about his legacy, his early days playing tennis, how he became one of the greatest Canadian men's tennis players of all time. Vasik Posposil will join the program at 8.30 or sorry, 6.30. Seven o'clock Adnan Virk from MLB network is going to join the program. Another big win for the Jays last night, taking their series against the Yankees with an eight four victory. We'll get into that in what happened as well. Also this weekend, it's the MLB's hall of fame induction ceremony. Dick Allen, Billy Wagner, CC,
Starting point is 00:02:55 Sebastian Ichiro Suzuki and the late great Dave Parker are going to be inducted this weekend. So we'll talk to Adnan about all that at seven, seven 30. We're going to go to the NFL. Nick Shook from nfl.com is going to join the program. We'll whip around to some of the biggest stories from NFL training camps, which are now all underway. What's the latest with Micah Parsons in Dallas? How is Tyreek Hills fence mending going on in Miami? How is Joe Burrow reacting to all the contract drama
Starting point is 00:03:23 in Cincy? We'll get into all that with Nick Shook at 730 and then at 8 o'clock Ryan Kennedy Editor-in-chief of the hockey news is going to join the program They recently released their top 100 players issue. Who's number one Josh Nathan McKinnon. Oh, you spoiled it Oh, that's okay. I thought that was a that was a question It was and then I saw your your hand movements, and I was like ah it's not a question, but I've started saying the name. It's okay. And it's, yeah, that's on me. You know what? The best part is that nobody listens at 6.04 in the morning. So by the time Ryan is on the show, it'll be another surprise. Ryan is also a
Starting point is 00:03:55 prospects expert for the hockey news. We can ask him about this ongoing story that is the rise of NCAA hockey. We've Porter Martone of the Philadelphia Flyers is on his way to Michigan State, another high end prospect making his way to the collegiate game. So there's lots to get into there at eight o'clock with Ryan Kennedy. So working in reverse on that guest list, eight o'clock Ryan Kennedy from the hockey news, seven 30 Nick Shook from NFL.com seven o'clock Adnan Virk from MLB network, six 30 Vashak Paspasil, Canadian tennis icon.
Starting point is 00:04:25 That's what's happening on the program today. Zach, let's tell everybody what happened. Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. What happened? I missed all the action because I was... We know how missing your life can be. What happened?
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Starting point is 00:05:04 What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? What happened? it striking out eight in seven and a third's inning, a season high for him. And the Blue Jays took advantage of not one, not two, not three, but four New York Yankees. Too many. That's too many errors in a game. Those sloppy Yankees and those airtight Jays, eight for a win for the Jays to take the series over the Yankees last night. Here's what the final call sounded like, courtesy Blue Jays play by play man, Dan Schulman. Fly ball left center. Straw is there and the Blue Jays win the series.
Starting point is 00:05:38 What a game this was tonight as the Blue Jays beat the Yankees 8-4, take two out of three and are now four games up in the American League East and Joe are now tied with the Houston Astros for the best record in the American League. Unbelievable this run that the Blue Jays are on over the last two and a half, three months. Vladdy Guerrero Jr. Josh, big night for him last night. He showed me, he showed me me at a couple clutch a B's He did you know what he didn't hit the home run that I was hoping he would hit that's okay. That's okay That's okay
Starting point is 00:06:10 He drove into run scored twice the Jays of one for the 18th time in 23 games all due respect To people like mark and white rock who can't believe that we're starting every show with the Blue Jays I will once again reiterate what I said earlier in the week. It's not just that we work for Rogers and they do have some very immediate ties to the Toronto Blue Jays. What they are doing right now is worthy of any sort of coverage on any sort of network because this is a team that is on a heater, a generational heater for this organization. You must remember that this is the first time prior to losing the mid game of this series,
Starting point is 00:06:48 the first time in franchise history that the Blue Jays won 11 consecutive games at home throughout the course of their 40 plus years of existence. Like this is a very, very impressive thing that they are doing. And what's more, they have also maybe broken the brains of the New York Yankees, which also deserves top billing because the Yankees look horrible right now.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Yeah, it's crazy how bad they were defensively in like in that whole series. They had seven errors in the whole series, and it felt like every ball hit on the infield that Miles Straw like kind of ran on. They were like, I don't know what to do. Please don't do this anymore. And yeah, it was it was kind of embarrassing from the Yankees. I do think they were like fixable issues if you're looking at it from a Yankees perspective.
Starting point is 00:07:34 But the Jays keep getting the breaks to go their way in clutch moments. So the Jays have had a really good time against the Yankees this year, especially at home. And we'll play the audio from Aaron Boone in a sec. Aaron Boone had a real tough night last night. He got chucked from the game for arguing balls and strikes. And then after the game was forced to address a series in which they just
Starting point is 00:07:52 booted around the ball like crazy, tried to defend his guys. But we'll get into the audio in a second. The Yankees have committed 52 errors through 102 games this year. If you're like, does that total matter? Well, consider this. They're 41 and 22 when they play error-free baseball 15 and 24 when they make at least one miscue they made four last night and some of them were Ridiculous in nature the jazz Chisholm throw away when he caught a liner and then threw it back to first base to try and I
Starting point is 00:08:18 Guest tag up Vladdy at first who was already on the bag by the time he threw made no sense whatsoever Gotta throw a shot up. Yeah, I don't get what they were doing. But here's the thing. The Jays do a really nice job of putting baseballs in play. They don't strike out an awful lot. They're not the sort of prototypical modern MLB team that goes yard with regularity. Like we saw the Yankees do in this series, including Aaron Judge yesterday. But they almost can smell blood in the water.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Like when a team is reeling defensively, it's like, what if we just put the ball and play an awful lot? What if we just like, especially with two strikes, we bear down and even if it's something to the gap in the infield, let's just see what happens here, right? Let's put pressure on the defense.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Now, Aaron Boone acknowledged that his team did not have a good defensive series throughout the three games in which they were only able to manage one and fell further behind the Jays in the standings. Here's Aaron Boone on his beleaguered defensive team after Boone got chucked from yesterday's 8-4 loss to the Jays. Yeah just not good enough and you know look I think I think we have a very good defensive club but clearly in the seven games we've played up here, you know, not giving them extra outs, whether it's through air or not making a play that we need to make,
Starting point is 00:09:33 you know, that's cost us. And these two series up here were really hurt. So we've got to, you know, we've got to obviously tighten it up. Confident we will. We'll continue to work at it. We have good defenders here. But tonight was obviously a rough night for us. So I was digging as deep as I could into Yankees, Twitter, and all of the pundits, and then also like the social media personalities that cover the team. And the frustration level is very high right now. Yeah, justifiably so. It's like that is the most frustrating way to lose baseball games, especially because it did feel like every time the Yankees made it in error
Starting point is 00:10:09 It was leading directly to Blue Jays rallies like it wasn't like hey you made an error and then you got a double play on the on the next play it was it led to extended runs for the Jays that Honestly in in the two games they won. It's it's probably the reason they won the games. Yeah, and you can boot the ball around and it's fine. And if you're not a good defensive team, you're not a good defensive team. But when you're doing it against a team
Starting point is 00:10:32 that's kind of owned you this year, and by the way, that's now seven wins in 10 over the Yankees for the Jays this season. So if you're three and seven against the team and the continual issues are your inability to feel the ball, especially in Toronto, I did like how Aaron Boone mentioned there. He's like, we're having a hard time feeling the ball here. On the turf, but it's not the turf's fault.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's the loud fans at the Rogers Center. So kudos to the Jays and kudos to everybody involved with that win over the Yankees in that series. They now move on to another big series against the Detroit Tigers and that one begins tonight. So we'll keep an eye on that. And once again, tomorrow morning, I can almost guarantee we'll be leading off the show with the Jays. But we got to move on to a local story,
Starting point is 00:11:11 non-Connex division to start. I know all of you are clamoring for some Jack Roslavik talk. You will have to wait. We're going to talk about the Vancouver Whitecaps. So yesterday, prior to the MLS All-Star game, MLS commissioner Don Garber was asked about the future of the Vancouver Whitecaps. And I've got the audio here.
Starting point is 00:11:33 It's lengthy. He's very animated and there are some very interesting takeaways about the Whitecaps, their current situation at BC Place, and where they may play in the future and how badly they need to address their stadium situation at BC place and where they may play in the future and how badly they need to address their stadium situation. Here now, MLS commissioner Don Garber on the future of the Vancouver Whitecaps. No plans to move the Vancouver Whitecaps, but right now they don't have a viable stadium situation and they need one. We have a stadium that we'll lose access to because of construction for the 2026 World
Starting point is 00:12:07 Cup. We get 17 days where we can play our games and that's it. We don't have any flexibility, including what happened with their playoff game last year. The Vancouver Whitecaps need a new stadium. And we need to find a way to work with the city and work with the province and get Greg Kerfoot who's committed to working with the city in the province to find a stadium solution. Not our first rodeo and we'll figure that out.
Starting point is 00:12:34 We'll be able to get a stadium I hope and we're working hard at it. We got an update on it over the last couple of days and we're hopeful that we'll be able to achieve something to at least look at a way that we could have a place for the Vancouver Whitecaps to play and then we'll continue to deal with what happens if they don't have a place to play but there is no plan to move the Vancouver Whitecaps. There isn't any update that I can share with you today but the update is we got to get a new stadium situation for the Vancouver Whitecaps. I will say the city has been more engaged now than they have been in the past.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And we appreciate that. So I think everybody recognizes that Whitecaps are an important brand. They've been in the city a long time and we'd like to find a solution. Shout out to intrepid local Whitecaps reporter Harjo Hall for asking the questions of Don Garber there. And that was her in the middle, very astutely asking right away, what was that update, Don,
Starting point is 00:13:30 that you got about the current Whitecaps stadium situation? And then Don quickly and astutely dodged that one and just reiterated that they need to get a new stadium situation. So a lot to unpack here. I want to ask you, Josh, me, when you first heard that audio, maybe you didn't know that it was coming and you I don't know how up to speed you are with the current Whitecaps Stadium situation, but I think that's almost a good thing, because when you heard Garber speak and you heard that minute and a half of audio,
Starting point is 00:14:00 what was your immediate takeaway in the aftermath of hearing it? Concern, I think, especially because I don't know, I think as someone who is more of a casual follower of the Whitecaps, it does feel, it's felt almost inevitable that something was gonna happen in terms of relocation and it's frustrating. And then when you hear that in the, you know, BC place having issues and, you know, dates being limited and all of this, it is concerning. Now he did mention the update and so maybe there's the glimmer of hope in there that, hey,
Starting point is 00:14:35 there could be a stadium update somewhere and they're trying to work with the city and there's been positive signs from the city. But I don't know, I think it's hard to, it's hard to not be concerned when you hear the Commissioner of MLS talking about that. So there's a real key part early in Zach. I'm going to get you to cue back up the first part of his answer here, where he talks about the unsustainability of the current situation at BC Place. So not only is it like clearly and squarely on the radar of the MLS commissioner who by the way in addition to dealing with this is dealing with a
Starting point is 00:15:06 million other things right now all of which were covered yesterday, but he makes very no bones about it like very explicitly talking about the issues in good detail and Almost saying the quiet part out loud. Can you roll it from the top again right after he starts talking about Can you roll it from the top again right after he starts talking about the issues that they have with Only having 17 dates available and how this was an issue all the way dating back to last year's playoffs where they had to move their game I want to play this again just so I can dive into it a little bit deeper Here's Don Garber on the issues at BC place. Just roll it straight from the top No plans to move the Vancouver Whitecaps, but right now they don't have a viable stadium situation and they need one.
Starting point is 00:15:49 We have a stadium that we'll lose access to because of construction for the 2026 World Cup. It is the, we get 17 days where we can play our games and that's it. We don't have any flexibility, including what happened with their playoff game last year. The Vancouver Whitecaps need a new stadium. So I had a few people reach out to me and they're like, what's this we get 17 days where we can play our games all about?
Starting point is 00:16:16 So I had spoken to someone, a former employee of the club, and this has kind of been common knowledge for a while, but with Garber saying it yesterday, and I don't know how many listeners right now were aware of this at the time, but may as well get it out there. As one of the anchor tenants in BC plays, the Whitecaps get very limited dates available to them
Starting point is 00:16:40 from Pavco for when they can play their games. When it comes time to doing the MLS schedule, as Garber says, we get a handful of dates throughout the entire summer. He says 17, I've heard the number fluctuates a little bit there, where they can slot in their games. And it's been an ongoing issue with the Whitecaps, and I think to a lesser degree, the Lions,
Starting point is 00:16:59 but we'll focus on the Whitecaps here because they're the ones talking about potentially moving out and their leases up to continue playing games at BC Place. Now, BC Place tries to hold a lot of summer dates open for things like concerts, for example. And look, let's just readily admit this, acknowledge this right away, it is true that you're gonna make more money off a major concert tour that comes through than you are off a regular season MLS or CFL game.
Starting point is 00:17:27 That being said, those are also speculative dates as opposed to your anchor tenants, which are going to guarantee you revenue on those particular nights that they're playing. The issue is, is that the white caps for the longest time didn't have a ton of leverage in talks about, hey, can we get a better deal? Can we get some more dates? Can we have a better working relationship? Because
Starting point is 00:17:47 Papka wasn't necessarily worried about it because they were never gonna leave, right? Your anchor tenants, the anchor was very much a key part of this. There's not a lot of give and take when one side knows that the other side doesn't have any leverage. And now I do wonder how things are gonna change because this is almost every significant stakeholder involved with this is now openly saying and acknowledging that the current situation is unsustainable. Right? When the commissioner of the league is up there talking in great detail about how bad
Starting point is 00:18:17 the stadium deal is for the MLS club, you know that they're not long for this. And I do think that there's some strategy involved with this from the MLS side of things. We've had Axel Schuster on the show before. I know he's talked about going in and renegotiating the lease deal for the Whitecaps to continue playing at BC Place in the interim. But having Garber say it at one of the league's marquee
Starting point is 00:18:39 events and going into great detail. And we've got the video up at Sportsnet650's Twitter account now, I put it up on Twitter yesterday. He's very animated when he's talking about this, especially what happened last year in the playoffs. That was a awful look for that league when they had to shift around someone's home playoff date because they couldn't get their building available because motocross was in the building.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yeah, that's a, that's a tough sell. It's about like a major league that's trying to, you know, develop and be more of a legit operation. And you got to like move stuff around because of this. It's got to be it sounded like he was very frustrated. Exactly anything like caps related. I mean, on one hand, he's talking about Lionel Messi's involvement or lack thereof in the All-Star game yesterday.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And then at the same time, he's also talking about a team that last year had a home playoff date scuttled because their building was rented out to Motocross. So that's what MLS is dealing with right now. The growth of the league has been in leaps and bounds and the Messi thing put it in a whole different stratosphere. So I'll be very curious to see where this goes for the Vancouver Whitecaps. But I did think it was important because that is also one of the first real tangible updates, even though it was a sort of non-up that we had on the Whitecaps stadium situation in a while. By the way, speaking of the Whitecaps in the MLS All-Star game, I will say that they were very well represented yesterday. MLS All-Stars beat the League MX All-Stars 3-1.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Tristan Blackman, Sebastian Berhalter, who we had on the show yesterday, they both started. Yohei Takayoka got involved as a sub, so too to Brian White. Brian White scored the first ever Whitecaps goal in an MLS All-Star game. The insurance marker in a 3-1 win last night. So very eventful times for the Vancouver Whitecaps. We didn't even mention yesterday's news that Veselinovich tore his ACL and he's out for the year. So there's a lot to
Starting point is 00:20:29 get into there. Okay. Final thing before we move on in what happened. Finally, everyone says, finally, Jack Roslick talk. I've been waiting. I've been waiting. So walk us through it here. What did we get yesterday, both from Rick Dollywall and then from Patrick Johnson of the province as to what's going on with the unrestricted free agent center? So about 20 hours ago Rick Dollywall tweeting out for those asking not sure where this goes but the Canucks continue to talk with UFA Jack Roslavix camp. That's it. You know what? Maybe I hope he doesn't sign. It's too difficult too difficult of a name Fewer syllables, please and then PJ in an article
Starting point is 00:21:10 Adds that there's a continued interest in Roslavick as well as a potential interest in Mason McTavish Which we talked a lot from the Vancouver Canucks. So those are the updates and there has been no update since on anything Roslavick related so I So those are the updates and there has been no updates since on anything Roslivic related. So I understand what the Canucks are trying to do here. This is value mining later in free agency for what the third consecutive summer. They do have a pension for doing this. They've hit it out of the park before specific with Pugh suitor. They've also swung and missed, which I would consider Daniel Sprong, who by the way, signed in the KHL yesterday.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Good for him Yeah, so I'm not all that Bullish on this particular move. I kind of hope that the clearing of Dakota Josh was salary would lead to something bigger This kind of feels like a consolation prize is consolation prize my my thing on it is like, okay You can go like the the situation the Canucks are in is if a center gets injured, they are just in such a bad spot. If Pedersen or Hiddle get injured early in the season, it's just not good. And so the way I view this is just as insurance and someone who, even if he's not being an injury replacement or in the top six, he can still put up points in the middle six. To me, he's just like a more offensive minded version of Pugh suitor.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Middle six forward who can play a versatile role. You still have to get better. Like you have to get a better player than Jack Roslavik. But I have no problem with him being the insurance until you get to a point where you can add said player. The insurance thing does make a ton of sense because the team was just ravaged by injury last year, right? And we had Thomas Drantz on the show yesterday
Starting point is 00:22:49 talking about the amount of man games lost to injury. And, you know, again, not all man games lost injury created equal. There's a big difference between losing a top line guy and losing a fourth line grinder, but injuries are injuries. And for a team that doesn't have a lot of depth, any man game lost will hurt. And I think
Starting point is 00:23:06 Especially with the two guys that you mentioned Heedle and Pettersson there's an inherent injury concern now petterson I would say less so because I do think last year could be written off as an anomaly In the sense that there's a bounce back to be had the Heedle story from day one has been health Yeah, we had Larry Brooks on the show shortly after the trade was consummated. And he spoke glowingly about Hedl and his time in New York,
Starting point is 00:23:30 but he said the same thing over and over. We had no idea what he could be because he was always on the shelf. The health was always going to be a big thing with him. So stylistically, in terms of off season acquisitions, I can see why this unsexy move of bringing in a guy this late in the summer might be the right one because you're just insulating yourself from injury. But I'm crying out for not just the Canucks to do something bigger, but for
Starting point is 00:23:55 this entire mythical secondary robust trade market that we've talked about to take off. It just doesn't seem like it's happened. Maybe someone just needs to sign him for it to happen. I don't know. I do like ideally I know people it's not gonna be super inspiring or sexy if they if they sign Roslivic, but I do I want that big move to happen too, but I just wonder if these moves the big moves aren't gonna happen until teams recognize that they're not gonna make the playoffs. And right now, every team other than like three think they're gonna make the playoffs. Yeah, like who's a dedicated seller right now?
Starting point is 00:24:30 Pittsburgh? Pittsburgh. And then San Jose and Chicago, but it's like, well, do you want anyone? How long before the Seattle crack can become a seller? Very quickly, Jared McCann, come on down. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. Vashak Pospisil joins us now on the Halford and Brough. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. Vasek Pospisil joins us now on the Halford and Brough show
Starting point is 00:24:48 on Sportsnet 650. Morning Vasek, how are you? Morning, doing great. Thanks for taking the time to do this, we appreciate it. And I wanted to ask, with the retirement news, what made the decision now for you to step away from the game that you've been playing professionally for close to the last two decades?
Starting point is 00:25:05 Yeah, you know what? The time is right. I'm 35 years old. The last three years I've been dealing with quite a few injuries and they just keep kind of popping up. And I think it's, you know, I think my body has taken the toll and I think it's just the right time to go you know combine that with a little bit of burnout as well and mental burnout is there's only so much you can put your body through for so many years and
Starting point is 00:25:33 So it's you know I've no doubt no doubt in my mind that that this is the the right move and the right time to do it Have you been able to take the time to reflect on your career and what you were able to do professionally? Yeah, I have. You know, and it's really hit me more so this past week. You know, I've tried throughout my career to pause and reflect and be, you know, grateful for where I am.
Starting point is 00:25:58 And because obviously, you know, looking back in hindsight and if you, you know, coming from Vernon and just the career I've had, if someone told me I'd have this career when I was a kid, I would be taken to heart beating. I wouldn't believe them. And then when you get into the grind and you get into the high level sport and competition and you keep pushing for more and you keep putting more pressure on yourself and you know you get to top 50 or you're like oh I gotta go higher and then you're always trying to do more and more and more and and um but the reality is is it's you know I've had an incredible
Starting point is 00:26:37 career um you know especially where you know where I came from and um my background obviously and and so I'm very grateful for that. And like I said, it's really hit me this past week. This is where I'm like, wow, this is the end. And I'm seeing some highlights coming up online and I'm very grateful for the career that I've had for sure. Well, let's keep reflecting on this journey. Let's go all the way back to the beginning.
Starting point is 00:27:03 You mentioned your start in Vernon and, you know, as I understand it, not exactly a tennis hotbed. So what did you have to do? What steps did you have to take? And how big an investment of time did you and your family have to come from, you know, such a small place to get to the level that you did, where you became one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:27:21 Canadian tennis players of all time? Well, I have my family to thank for that. You know, my father especially, I mean, when they escaped the communist regime in former Czechoslovakia, came to Canada with hardly any money, basically nothing. And my dad just started working two jobs, double shifts over time, and became very passionate about tennis. I mean it was his dream that his sons, you know, for his sons to be professional athletes. So my brother's never made it but I was lucky that I had them to play with
Starting point is 00:27:55 because in Vernon there was you know hardly any tennis at all and it was just so much hard work honestly. I mean mean, from a young age, it's all I wanted to do. I homeschooled when I was 11 years old just to focus on tennis. You know, my dad ended up quitting his job so he could coach me and travel to tournaments with me on a two string budget. And so, you know, of course it can't happen
Starting point is 00:28:21 without very hard work and sacrifice and tons of commitment but it also equally at least you know in my position it would it would have been impossible if my my parents um you know hadn't sacrificed what they had um and to give me that opportunity so I'm forever grateful for them I'll never be able to uh you know thank them enough for that. And yeah, and I guess, there's a lot more to the story, but that's the essence right there. In the work and sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:28:53 For sure. In the time since, there's been a lot of Canadian stars that have popped up in the world of tennis and it feels like there's been a growth in the game. What have you thought about the growth in Canadian tennis since you've been a part of it? Yeah, I mean, it's extraordinary.
Starting point is 00:29:10 I mean, Canada was never a tennis nation. And then, and now, I mean, we have a ton of top talent, young players. I also mentioned this quite often, that it's easy to take for granted, and we can't take it for granted that we have such great players at the top of the game right now because it's unusual for a winter sport country to have so many great tennis players. But Tennis Canada is doing a great job and they've got a good program going right now so hopefully we can keep riding the momentum but it's just from my perspective
Starting point is 00:29:48 it's really nice to see because when I you know when I started off and even when I broke through I mean we never really had any any top singles players and you know now we have a handful of them so it's great and I think you know at least for the next 10 years you know there's quite a bit that Canadian tennis fans can be excited about. We're speaking to Canadian tennis icon and BC native Vasik Paspasil here on the Haliford and Brough show on Sportsnet 650.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Vasik, if you had to pick one singular accomplishment throughout your 18 year career that you're most proud of, what would that one singular accomplishment be? Oh, I can only choose one, okay. Well, I'm going to put two. I'm going to say two. Fine, pick two. That's okay. Wimbledon and Davis Cup. Wimbledon and Davis Cup for obviously different reasons. Wimbledon is, I mean, it's the biggest tournament in tennis. So that goes without saying, but Davis Cup, tournament in tennis so that's you know that goes without saying but but Davis Cup is is I would maybe put that as number one to be honest because playing
Starting point is 00:30:49 for your country you know being able to win win that event for the first time in history for Canada and also at the end of my career I mean it was in 2022 it was really one of the last chances that that you know that I had to be part of the winning team. So yeah, it was extraordinary. And I mean, I put so much pride into representing Canada all these years. And it was something that I really, really wanted to accomplish for over 10 years. So to finally be able to do it, it was very emotional for myself and my family and everyone on the team.
Starting point is 00:31:28 And it was an extraordinary accomplishment. I got a couple of questions about the Davis Cup stuff, because it always fascinates me. We talk a lot about from a golf perspective with the Ryder Cup, how the guys go from playing and almost focused entirely on the individual. It's a singular sport in that instance. And then all of a sudden you're thrown into a team dynamic and the dynamics obviously change. So for you, what was it like going from focusing just on Vasik Pospis and what you need to do in singles, let's just put it in that context, to then all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:31:56 being part of a larger scale team and realizing that you weren't just about your game but trying to prop up other people's game as well. Yeah, it's very different. And I think it's one of the reasons why we've had so much success in Davis Cup, because you need to be selfless and you need to work as a team. I mean, yes, there are singles matches that are played, but if someone's not feeling confident or playing well, it's not about them, it's not about you, right? So you have to, it's about making sure that the team wins.
Starting point is 00:32:28 And I think it was, you know, I speak for myself here, but I think I can speak for everyone on the team is, you know, we were all in the same boat. We all wanted the best for each other. And we were all willing to step out of a potential match if we felt like we weren't the guys to play. And I think we had really good chemistry among the teams. So it was very fun to play for Canada in a team environment.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You don't get to do that throughout the year. It's always individual. You're always flying around the world alone or with your coach or you know say a small team. So it's a very very special event and it is you know there's an element to it where it's less stress because you have so many people around you or you're on the same team but it is there is way more pressure right because you're playing suddenly if you if you lose your match you're not you're not just losing it for yourself, but you're losing for your country, and for all your teammates,
Starting point is 00:33:30 you're potentially letting them down. So, and that extra pressure is actually something that I really, really enjoyed and thrived in, and actually may have been the reason I played some of my best tennis when I represented Canada. Well, you know, the other interesting thing about when you guys were playing for Canada and representing the Maple Leaf is that you were also doing it in a sport where Canada didn't have a ton of international success. Obviously, it was the first Davis Cup that it
Starting point is 00:33:58 ever won. And if you look around the sporting landscape, you've got like the Canadian men's soccer team qualifying for a World Cup for the first time in nearly four decades, Canadian men's basketball achieving heights, and you know, accomplishments internationally that they never have before. Was there an added element of excitement or passion because not only that you were representing Canada, but you were putting Canada on the map in terms of being very competitive in a sport where you hadn't been prior?
Starting point is 00:34:23 map in terms of being very competitive in a sport where you hadn't been prior? Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean that's, you know, initially when I was 17 years old it was, you know, just to represent Canada was, I mean it's still to this day, I mean it's the same, it's the same, but it was just an unbelievable honor and a dream. But then of course being able to win Davis Cup and have meaningful results at major competitions around the world for your country, that's just another level, right? So I think that made it that much more special being able to be remembered as one of the team members that really impacted those results and contributed to the success makes it that much more fulfilling. It is BC's very own Vashek Kaspisil joining us on the Halford and Bruff show. So a big part of your legacy as well is that you're one of the co-founders of the Professional Tennis Players Association.
Starting point is 00:35:25 How much does that work mean to you? Oh, it means a lot. And I sacrificed quite a bit, you know, actually for that. It's a lot of effort, a lot of time and energy the last four or five years. And, you know, I And I do think that it'll be a success where we're on our way there. Tennis needs reform. Unfortunately, if you look under the hood, it is a broken sport. And it's a huge, multi-billion dollar business. And that is run a certain way that isn't right. And from a player's perspective, there needs to be change. There's no question about it. I mean without getting into all the details
Starting point is 00:36:11 you know, it's just something that needs it needs change. So I mean if you know if we're able to be successful with this it'll be you know arguably you know, it'll you know more important than anything I could have done on court in terms of my results so I'll continue to stay close to that and push it through to the end and and you know you have to stand up for what you believe in and for what's right and if you if you have the ability to change something for the better I think it's
Starting point is 00:36:41 you know your duty to at least try to do that. So I'm not going anywhere as it relates to the fight for players in the sport. Well let's dive into the details a little bit here because one, it is very important work, and two, I can tell that you're passionate about it. I guess where does the original motivation come from wanting to do this sort of work and almost being involved in the labor side of things? Because there would be some players I think that would look at it and say, my primary objective here is to maximize earnings and play as long as I can and focus just on the tennis, not the player union side of things. So what motivated you to get involved
Starting point is 00:37:19 in that side of the business? Well, when you first come on tour and you first start getting your big paycheck and, you know, you, you just think everything is amazing, right? So it's not uncommon for the young players to, you know, kind of just go, go on through their day and think that everything is great. And then when they get to their knees, they realize how many issues there are from the business side of tennis.
Starting point is 00:37:56 And for me, when I broke through and I was 25 or 26 and I started to understand how things were actually operating and how unfair it was, I would say objectively, I couldn't believe that it was the way it was and I wanted to change it. So I went on the player council and I know I'm a man of principle and I felt like that I would be able to pull it off and do it. And of course, it took me a few years to actually launch it because I was playing and I was very busy. I couldn't really find the time. And then I had back surgery in 2019
Starting point is 00:38:34 and I had all this time on my hands. And that's when I was like, well, what am I gonna do for the next nine months? And I just felt like that was the perfect time to go after this mission. And in hindsight, I will say I maybe was a little bit naive. I thought I would be able to do it a little quicker, and that it would take a little less energy than it did. I don't regret that at all, although it did take away a little bit from my performance and there's no question about
Starting point is 00:39:07 that. But it was really 2019, that back surgery. I just said, all right, you know what? There have been multiple player uprisings over the last 30 years that were all squashed by the establishment. I thought, oh, I'm going to do things differently, I'm going to learn from the past and I'll be the one that will be able to do this. That was my thinking at the time.
Starting point is 00:39:33 I'm glad that I did it and I'm glad that I didn't realize that it was going to be such a long and painful journey because I'm not sure I would have jumped into it so quickly, so easily but it was definitely the right move. So your final tournament, it's this weekend, it's the NBO, it's in Toronto. Vashjik, when it's done and it's all said and done and your playing days are over, how do you want to be remembered? Yeah, that's a good question. I want to be remembered as someone that really put in the work, was hardworking, always someone that had high integrity. I mean, I feel like always doing what he thought was right
Starting point is 00:40:16 and treated people well. I hope, obviously I'm a little biased. I'm talking about myself here, but yeah, I think I think you know I would say those those are kind of the the main the main ones there. Well a couple things here Juan we want to thank you for taking the time to do this this morning we really appreciate it. Best of luck in the Father Swan song this weekend at the NBO and it's been a lot of fun watching you play tennis and
Starting point is 00:40:42 watching you blaze this trail for Canadian tennis. We cheer for Canadians all the time, but specifically ones from our neck of the woods here in BC. So from Vernon all the way to this, it's been a heck of a career. Thank you very much for doing this and congrats once again, Vashik. Thank you and thanks so much for having me. Yeah, thank you. That's Vashik Popsos old Canadian at tennis star, Vernon's very own here on the Halford and Breff show on Sportsnet 650. What a colorful career, both in terms of on court
Starting point is 00:41:09 accomplishments, obviously said winning Wimbledon is doubles with Jack Salk, the name Jack Salk. And also of course, winning the Davis Cup, which I distinctly remember him being like the emotional heartbeat of that team as one of the veterans. And then of course, the impact that he's had on the tour in terms of, you know, forming a players association and, you know, unionizing and understanding that there's so much more to protecting players than just what goes on to
Starting point is 00:41:35 in terms of health and getting from place to place. So, yeah, Vashak Pospisil calling it a career this weekend at the NBO in Toronto. Very underrated career. You mentioned the yeah mentioned all the accomplishments and went to the Olympics and all that too. So yeah, it's good for him. And yeah, I'm sure we'll still be hearing about him with all the work he's doing off the court as well.
Starting point is 00:41:55 What do we got? OK, so we are doing the Canucks hypotheticals, Mount Rushmore's, all of that stuff. Summer content, they call it. Summer content. Where you beg your listeners for questions. And you know what? They did it.
Starting point is 00:42:08 We got one from Sir Duxworth. If you could transport one current Canuck who is not Quinn Hughes, because that would be the obvious answer. Back in time to the 2011 Cup final in an attempt to flip the end result, who would you pick? This one's a good one. We've done this before with different iterations,
Starting point is 00:42:26 but we've never done it with the current roster. Sans, Quinn, Hughes, because yes, the obvious answer is send him back. OK, so if we're going to break down the 2011 Stanley Cup final in detail, you're not going to need a goalie. No. Because they had an option right there
Starting point is 00:42:44 over a little longer They could play court Schneider and that it's got to be a defenseman, right? Well, I think you could make the argument I do lean defenseman But I was going back forth because they needed goals to yeah, they needed to score they did and The I and to be fair this current Canucks team not very good at scoring which is an issue But yeah, I was I think I ultimately I go defenseman, but someone like Brock Besser was a in contention for me I had it narrowed it down to the two forwards that I would have brought along were Besser and Garland as the options if you were gonna add a forward I thought about Pettersson
Starting point is 00:43:21 But then I was like, ah, I don't know. I don't know if you're built for this world Okay, so I think the obvious answer given the injuries to ham Hughes and the fact that they were all the way down to their Interent defenseman it would have been a defenseman I was I was I think it's got to be I think the answer the right answer if you're to look at this objectively and you're Trying to get a general consensus is Philip Rohnick or Marcus petters. I think the answer, the right answer, if you're to look at this objectively and you're trying to get a general consensus is Philip Hronik. Or Marcus Pedersen. I think Hronik. I go Hronik too, but so for right-handed defensemen,
Starting point is 00:43:52 they had Biaxa. See. They had Tanev. Yeah, that's. They had Salo. That's the first thing that I thought is like, do you just automatically plug in a lefty where your left side was inferior,
Starting point is 00:44:02 or do you ignore handedness altogether and just say we're going to get the best defenseman from the current iteration into that group? Because let's be honest, if you were just to pick who's the better defenseman, nine out of 10 people are gonna say Hronik over Pettersson. Yeah, of course. But I do wonder if the fit of Marcus Pettersson
Starting point is 00:44:19 would be very similar to what they lost in Dan Hamhus. And so that's why I might lean Pedersen, but I don't think there's an issue with either. Hironic, if Hamhus was healthy, I think is the very, very obvious pick. But I don't know, I might go Pedersen just for the, just for the handedness. Marcus Pedersen.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Yeah, I was gonna say, I noticed no one jumped on Leas Pedersen there, which was a very interesting one. You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough.

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