Halford & Brough in the Morning - The Best Of Halford And Brough 9/27/24

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Mike and Jason look back at the previous day in sports, the boys do some Ask Us Anythings, plus they get a Canucks update from Donnie & Dhali's Rick Dhaliwal ahead of tonight's pre-season matchup in S...eattle. This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to the best of Halford and Brough. You're listening to Halford and Brough. Nembo, baby. guy who inherited everything we work for ours that's what we do in Oakland here goes Lynn you get spring on the inside C.D. Lynn
Starting point is 00:00:37 touchdown I'm good are we going to talk young boys or what ladies and gentlemen the weekend good morning Vancouver 601 on a Friday. Happy Friday, everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:48 This is Alfred and his brother-in-law at Sportsnet 650. We are coming to you live from the Kintec Studios in beautiful Fairview Slopes in Vancouver. Jason, good morning. Good morning. Adog, good morning to you. Good morning. Laddie, good morning to you as well. Hello, hello.
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Starting point is 00:01:23 Visit them at 1170 powell street in vancouver we are coming to you live from the kintec studio kintec canada's favorite orthotics provider powered by thousands of five-star google reviews sophie what are you waiting for kintec i got a lot to get into on a friday we got a big guest list we got two giveaways there's a lot of sports on tonight what a day setting you up for the weekend guest listest list begins at 6.30. Brady Henderson, ESPN, Seahawks insider, is going to join us. We are going to preview Monday Night Football. That's right, we're going to skip all the way ahead to the second of a doubleheader on Monday Night Football.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It is the Seattle Seahawks going to Detroit to take on the Lions. Seahawks are three-and-a-half point dogs on the road. We'll talk to Brady about that at 6.30. 7 o'clock, AJ from AJ's Pizza on East Broadway. It was a big night for AJ last night. Oh, he got a good win. The Cowboys. Two good wins.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Well, yeah, the Yankees clinched the division. And the Cowboys actually won a game. Although, I don't think it was like super convincing or anything. Well, the Yankees and Cowboys win. All the Man U fans will be stoked. Yeah, yeah. AJ makes good pizza, but he's kind of the worst. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:31 He's a real front runner. Good pizza, though. So 7 o'clock, we're going to talk to AJ. Right after AJ, we're going to talk to Adam Stanley about the golf, the President's Cup. No, President's Trophy. I don't even care because it's over. Yeah, it ended yesterday. We're going to do a recap of the tournament.
Starting point is 00:02:48 What a disaster. Yeah. The Cleavers are out for everyone on this international team. Oh, the Cleavers are out for Weirzy, too. Yeah, I know. I saw that. Because he's sitting Kim down today. Tom Kim in favor of playing all three Canadians.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Which he should have done yesterday. You start the tournament with the Canadians. You throw them out there. You get the vibes going. You get the forecheck going. Well, he did start two Canadians, and they both lost again. And Corey Connors is 0-5 in the President's Cup. Taylor Pendrith, 0-5 in the President's Cup.
Starting point is 00:03:17 They're going to give McKenzie Hughes a chance to get on the board today. Get out there, kid. If you've only got two Canadians, the answer is more Canadians. Three, four, five. Hell, Weir can play if he wants at this point. It doesn there, kid. If you've only got two Canadians, the answer is more Canadians. Three, four, five. Hell, Weir can play if he wants at this point. It doesn't really matter. Honestly, they might have to fly up Tiger to have an exhibition between Weirzy and Tiger because that was last time the President's
Starting point is 00:03:34 Cup was in Royal Montreal. The Internationals lost, but at least Weirzy beat Tiger in singles. Oh, that's good. That was kind of the memorable moment. So we'll talk to Adam Stanley about this golf tournament that's over after one day. That'll be fun. 7.30, Moj is going to join us. Bob the Moj Marjanovic. Busy day for Moj. He'll be on the call
Starting point is 00:03:50 tonight. The BC Lions are back in action after their bye week. They're going to be hosting the Hamilton Tiger Cats. Greg, are you going to be there wearing your feline outfit? I will not, unfortunately. A feline outfit? Yeah. I know I had one. You do. You're dressed up as a tiger. That could be supporting the outfit. Yeah. I didn't know I had one. You do. You're dressed up as a tiger.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That could be supporting the lions, too. Cat. Yeah. Felines. That's right. It's an all-feline battle tonight. You could be, you're neutral. I got to really wear the tiger stuff to show the difference.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Right. Yeah. Oh, I'm not a lion. Emphasize that. Oh, dear, sir. I'm not a lion. 730 Moj is going to join the program. 8 o'clock.
Starting point is 00:04:23 It's Rick Dollywall. I don't know what did Dolly send you his talking points for today already you have those in the chamber you're going to keep a secret
Starting point is 00:04:31 the Canucks aren't very happy with Rick no with one thing that's a tease the tease oh we don't know that's great
Starting point is 00:04:38 no no no they're not very happy that Demko's specific injury got leaked that's courtesy of the Alfred Abruzzo he's going to do target it yeah well I know pack his popliteas I just don't think Demko's specific injury got leaked. That's courtesy to the Alfredo Bruch Show. He's going to do Target it?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. Well, I know. Hack his popliteas. I just don't think they like any leaks whatsoever. Like, they don't like it. They're like, all right, who is it this time? Yeah, that's true. It's not so much that came out.
Starting point is 00:04:56 It's that it came out, right? It doesn't matter what the injury is. It's that it's now public knowledge. I think Rick is pretty upset with it, too, because now he has to say popliteas. Yeah, that's right. He didn't break it, and he has to say it.iteas. Yeah, that's right. He didn't break it and he has to say it. So Dolly's going to join
Starting point is 00:05:08 us at 8 o'clock. We have two giveaways today. Pay attention, listeners, okay? We're going to explain this a lot, but I'll explain it once right here. We're giving away a $100 gift card to AJ's Pizza on East Broadway for the best Ask Us Anything. That premise? Real simple.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Ask us something, We answer it. You win pizza. We're also giving away the final four pack of tickets to Monster Jam tomorrow. The jam is underway tomorrow. It was a graveyard smash. Saturday, Pacific Coliseum. Four pack of tickets
Starting point is 00:05:39 for the best what we learned. Hashtag it WWL. Dunbar Lumber text line is 650-650. What did you learn over the last 24 hours in sports? Let us know. The best what we learned. We'll get a four-pack of tickets to see Monster Jam tomorrow. So best ask us anything.
Starting point is 00:05:54 AJ's best what we learned. Trucks. Pizza emoji for the pizza. Ticket emoji for the tickets. Okay. That's it. Plain and simple. That's what's happening on the program today, everybody. Laddie, let's tell everybody
Starting point is 00:06:08 what happened. Hey, did you guys see the game last night? No. What happened? I missed all the action because I was... We know how busy your life can be. What happened? You missed that? What happened? What Happened is brought to you by the
Starting point is 00:06:23 BC Construction Safety Alliance. Making safety simpler by giving construction companies the best in tools, resources, and safety training. Visit them online at bccsa.ca. Thursday, no game for the Vancouver Canucks. They'll prep for tonight's game against the Seattle Kraken in Seattle as that rivalry spices back up. But there was some news and notes and a practice to talk about. Let's begin with the news. Jet Wu and Guillaume
Starting point is 00:06:49 Brisebois were both placed on waivers yesterday for the purpose of assigning them to Abbotsford. We will not find out until 11 a.m. our time. They've changed that. Remember when it used to be 9 a.m. our time? Now it's 11 a.m. our time. It's 2 o'clock eastern to see if anyone picked up either player on waivers.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Brackets, I don't think it's going to happen. But you never know. Stranger things have happened. Wu is yet to make his NHL debut, despite being called up to the team on two different occasions, if I'm not mistaken. Brisebois has played games dating all the way back to 2018-19. And as I pointed out on Twitter yesterday, there are only five current Canucks that played on that unforgettable 2018-2019 team.
Starting point is 00:07:32 It's Brock Besser, Thatcher Demko, Quinn Hughes, Elias Patterson, and good old Guillaume Brisebois. But it looks as though he'll be on his way down to Abbotsford. Yeah, Brisebois was concussed for a lot of last year and Jet Wu, you know, in some ways, I'll be honest with you, in some ways I hope someone picks him up. I'm not joking because like I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:56 a fresh start somewhere else might be what he needs. It's not that he's been, you know, terrible with the organization, but he's been terrible with the organization, but he's been close a few times to making the team, but never seems to find the right spot. And frankly, I'm getting tired of people texting and asking about JetWoo. Right, that one guy in particular.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Well, when you say people, yeah, we're referring to one person. It wasn't only one person? Yeah, talk about JetWoo. What's going on JetWoo-wise? Yeah, talk about JetWoo. Give us a referring to one person. Oh, is it only one person? Yeah. Talk about Jet Woo. What's going on Jet Woo-wise? Yeah, talk about Jet Woo. Give us a Jet Woo update. Dude, it's over. We don't have an update to give you.
Starting point is 00:08:30 What do you want us to talk about? Okay, let's talk about what happened at practice yesterday because I'll be curious to see what kind of lineup rolls out tonight in Seattle. The Canucks are about to play three games in four nights. They go Seattle tonight, Calgary tomorrow, and then Edmonton Monday, correct? You have no idea. Yep, no, you're right.
Starting point is 00:08:54 And they're all on the road. And then that is all in anticipation of, but their sixth and final preseason game, JT Miller kind of leaked yesterday. Not leaked, but yeah, he's in trouble now. He said yesterday, you know, that October 4th game, which is a week from today,
Starting point is 00:09:14 that's their sixth and final preseason game, will probably feature pretty much the full team. Yeah, most teams, it sounds like they're going to do that going into their final exhibition game. By the way, tonight's game is the last non-televised exhibition game on the Canucks slate. The rest of the ones that you mentioned will all be televised.
Starting point is 00:09:29 You can hear tonight's game right here on Sportsnet 650. So I do wonder about who's going to be playing tonight. I imagine JT Miller is going to make his preseason debut tonight, but it could be with all the big dogs. They were all skating together yesterday in the same group. And there were two groups skating out at UBC. They're using two sheets of ice there. And one of the groups, the reporters figured,
Starting point is 00:09:56 was the group that was going to go down to Seattle and play the Kraken. Right. And that featured the likes of Besser, Miller, Petey, DeBrusque, Hughes. And I was thinking that at some point this preseason, well, more than just that October 4th game, Rick Tockett probably wants to get at least his first unit power play out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 And get him the first two games they haven't been together. And the first game, the our play actually looked pretty good. And he'll probably want to get that group together just to get at some reps. And based on how spicy the first game against Seattle is, there could be a parade to the penalty box tonight. You're getting lots of opportunities. Who knows? There might be a lot of penalties. Okay, I want to play some audio from yesterday's practice.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The first is Rick Talkett discussing who will get that plum gig playing alongside Elias Pettersson and Jake DeBrusque on what will ostensibly be the Canucks' top line. I believe it was Kiefer Sherwood. I don't know if you mentioned it or not already yet. Yeah, he was skating with those two yesterday. Right. So Talkett was speaking about it and what an opportunity it is.
Starting point is 00:11:02 And then he started listing some of the guys that will get a crack at it. Here now, Rick Talkett on who gets to play with pd and nebrusk it's something i'm you know i'm not gonna lie to you i'm you know it's something every day okay how am i gonna do but it should sort itself out you know um you know i'm not i mean there's a lot of different options to go you know i could put hog in the left and i know jay can play the right side he's he's actually a good right winger too. He could do that. Sherwood could go up there. There's a lot of different guys that can go.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I think Leonard Mackey's done a nice job in his time there. So it's a job we're looking for somebody to take a hold of. And it's important that we find a guy that can push the pace. And the same thing, Petey's got to push the pace too. So we've got to make sure that we get that line sorted out. But as for the Heinen, yeah, I like Heinen where he is with Miller and Besser. Smart guy. So I think Heinen is, I don't want to say like super obvious
Starting point is 00:11:58 and the only guy that can play with Miller and Besser, but I think he really fits there. He's defensively sound. He's got speed, which I think adds something that that line could possibly need. Yep. And Rick Tockett is pretty comfortable with that. Tockett's basically said that's a trio. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Kynan, Besser, Miller. And they work together a lot in training camp, and we'll probably see them tonight. That's good. In Seattle, although you won't really see it unless there's another technically problematic stream. Mm-hmm. won't really see it unless there's another technically problematic stream. The other one, there just isn't an obvious fit there. Now people might say, well, what about Daniel Sprung?
Starting point is 00:12:33 He scored that amazing goal. Yep, it's a possibility, but this is a guy who has bounced around the NHL and needs to round out his game. And we'll talk a bit more about Daniel Sprung. Lekar Mackey, maybe. He's a rookie though, right? He might be better sort of starting the season
Starting point is 00:12:49 or finishing the whole season down in the AHL. Nils Holgrener, possible, but not obvious. And, you know, Kiefer Sherwood, I don't think anyone, when the Canucks signed him, were like, there is a guy that's going to fit in the top six, right? Like he's an energy player. I know the Canucks, when they did sign him, were like, there is a guy that's going to fit in the top six. He's an energy player. I know the Canucks, when they did sign him, they thought,
Starting point is 00:13:09 well, maybe there's more to this guy. He's got some speed. He's got some energy. Maybe he can bring something to that line. I don't know if it's going to be a rotating cast of wingers with Petey and DeBrusque. I mean, we have to make sure also that Petey and DeBrusque work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I know we saw them a little bit. It sounds like even if it's not, they're going to force make sure also that PD and DeBrusque work. Yeah. I know we saw them a little bit. It sounds like if it's not, they're going to force it. Make it work. Like, it's supposed to work. This is how it's going to work. For sure. And they're definitely going to get a run for a while together. I mean, I shouldn't say
Starting point is 00:13:38 definitely, but probably. Just say definitely. It's fine. Okay. No one's going to check you on it. People check everything on this show. No, they don't. That's true. They don't. We got four texts in right now, actually. Okay. No one's going to check you on it. People check everything on this show. No, they don't. That's true. They don't. We got a lot of texts in right now, actually. Actually. But it will be interesting to see who grabs that spot because not only is it important
Starting point is 00:13:54 for the team that that line really clicks, whoever grabs that spot, you know, like I'm making the money sign right now for that person that is a massive opportunity to go and play with two guys that can create points and create scoring chances so when Rick Talkett was first speaking about you know who's got an opportunity to play on that line he mentioned all the guys you just mentioned Kiefer Sherwood, handful of other guys, Nils Hoaglander, Jonathan Lacromackie. And then one of the reporters
Starting point is 00:14:30 in the scrum astutely pointed out that he didn't mention Daniel Sprung. And then Rick Tockett went on a very lengthy and interesting sort of explainer on, yeah, Sprung is totally mixed. I think he just overlooked his name. And then he started talking about him in detail.
Starting point is 00:14:46 So here begins the Daniel Sprung discourse, because he was a pretty major character yesterday. Here's Rick Tockett on Daniel Sprung. I forgot about it. Like, I shouldn't forget him because he's a guy that we are really excited to help and teach. You know, you saw that goal last night. You know, he can do that it's the sometimes in between that is where he gets a little lost and I think if we can I'm excited to work on put it
Starting point is 00:15:14 that way like really excited can he be on the on the flank there yeah he is a definitely a candidate order yeah I mean be crazy not to give him a chance up there. We all see that goal last night. What do you see on the other half of the ice? Because I know that's been sort of the big thing since he got there. Well, I think it's, you know, I have a good relationship with him. He wants to learn. I mean, he came in really good shape. He's been texting and asking for video.
Starting point is 00:15:42 He wants to be a better player and the complete player Said seven like IQ said he has seven coaches seven different teams You know, he's got to settle in and then really take this information and Kenny can it be a complete player? So Your question is basically, you know, he can't you can't go unnoticed You know, sometimes he doesn't move his feet He's kind of he gets lost out there where where I like to see his motor going like he did and if he makes an aggressive mistake when he's motoring I can live with that
Starting point is 00:16:11 it's just when he's very if he loses his guy or he dives in he does that I haven't seen that much it's only 4 or 5 or 6 days but he's really conscious of it you do some intel you talk to some other coaches too, so you try to get some intel
Starting point is 00:16:26 on him. But, you know, I think we got a good handle on him and what he knows what he has to do. Like he knows that there's certain things he has to do to earn the trust and the ice up. Sometimes I wonder if one of the hardest things for a player is just maintaining focus throughout the game.
Starting point is 00:16:45 Any athlete, really. Certainly golf. It is for goalies. Yeah. Well, goalies, yeah. And you know how they say in this, they say focus is the new IQ, just with cell phones and everything,
Starting point is 00:16:58 and it's the people that can sit down and actually work and focus on one task. That's a bit of an aside. I just think when you're playing a hockey game and what he's basically saying is like, there are some times that Sprong just kind of checks out when he's on the ice and his brain just isn't thinking about
Starting point is 00:17:17 all his responsibilities. And, you know, Laddie, I'm sure that's something that goalies have to be trained. Like you have to be focused the whole time. And it's hard. You have to kind of exercise your brain in order to do that. The same is true for a coach too, right? Like you're sitting behind the bench and sometimes you can get caught just watching the game, right?
Starting point is 00:17:38 Manny Malhotra kind of mentioned that actually. And I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he said like, yeah, you got to get back to being like behind the bench and remembering like your responsibilities as a coach and you're kind of getting out of summer mode and into hockey mode it is a not only a physically challenging game but it really is a mentally challenging game especially at the pro level at the NHL level which is obviously very different than your beer league when you're like, I'm a winger, I go here, right? Like you've got, you've got responsibilities constantly.
Starting point is 00:18:09 You've got to be checking where other guys are on the ice and where you are on the ice. And that might sound like, well, you should know where you are on the ice, but if you're, you know, three feet out of the spot where you're supposed to be, if you're say penalty killing or something, well, that, that's a problem. And we've heard a lot aboutick talk at making landmarks on the ice and
Starting point is 00:18:28 saying you got to get to this spot you got to hit your mark um and i think that it sounds like it sounds like that might be one of the issues with daniel sprung like when he's got the opportunity to make a play with the puck he can definitely do it but in the meantime he needs to to realize that he's even if the puck's not on his stick or even if there's not even a chance for the puck to get on his stick he still has to be playing the game well i i think does that make sense yeah but i think the interesting takeaway was that one thing that talk it said and then what sprung sort of later acknowledged in an interview that he did with IMAC and IMAC's got a piece up now on sportsnet.ca about journeyman Daniel Sprung hoping to find a home with the
Starting point is 00:19:12 Canucks Tuckett said you know the guys had seven coaches in seven years and there was a quote in the piece from Sprung about his conversation with Tuckett who one of the few coaches that he had actually had some familiarity with. Like Sprung basically gets a new coach every year, if you want to look at his career. Since he broke into the NHL, he's gone. Mike Johnson, Mike Sullivan, Randy Carlisle, Bob Murray, Peter LaViolette, Dave Haxtell,
Starting point is 00:19:40 who should have asked about Daniel Sprung, by the way, because he coached him for a couple of years in Seattle, and then Derek Lalonde, right? So the quote that Sprong had about his off-season chat prior to signing in Vancouver with Rick Tockett was, here's the quote. We talked about, you know, hockey in general, and then pretty much about my situation. I told him some stories that coaches have told me that didn't really make
Starting point is 00:20:04 sense. Things that happened. I think that stays between me and him. But the decision to come here was after that talk. That, to me, is a very interesting dynamic because I think a lot of people have put this solely at the feet of Daniel Sprong's game. Right? The reason that he's bounced around is because of what he does
Starting point is 00:20:24 and, more importantly of what he does and more importantly what he doesn't do are you blaming his coaches well blaming anyone i'm just saying it's a nice nuanced conversation that maybe part of the reason that he's all jumbled up about what he's supposed to do on the ice is because he's had seven different game plans in seven different seasons yeah maybe it was like when alex smith do you remember him yeah quarterback yeah like new york offensive coordinator every six weeks. Every year for the 49ers. Yeah, I got to learn one playbook, and then I got to learn a whole different one.
Starting point is 00:20:49 This guy's telling me to throw it backwards. Right? Laterals. We're going to play rugby out here. Fish Dancer texted in, is Sprong checking his Twitter in the neutral zone? I mean, yeah. That's kind of like the idea, right? That's why some guys delete social media.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, you just got to be dialed in. I can't tell you how many times as a reporter I've gone to games and gone, all right, I'm going to like really watch the game. I'm going to really, really watch the game. And five minutes in, I'm arguing with someone on Twitter. Yeah, it's tough. It's hard to maintain your focus. And I know people will probably be like,
Starting point is 00:21:25 they're professional athletes, they should be able to do it. Yeah, but that might be what separates professional athletes from the guys that aren't trusted by their coaches, their ability to focus and lock in on an entire game. Yeah. And like, dear listeners, don't get me wrong. Like, I know who and what we're talking about here. And this is a lot, I mean, there's been a lot of ink spilled
Starting point is 00:21:43 and a lot of words spoken about, quite frankly, a guy that just might not pan out here like he has in Detroit, Seattle, Washington, Anaheim, and Pittsburgh. That's what we do in the preseason, though. This is what we do. We should just lean into it. But the only...
Starting point is 00:21:57 Well, here's the thing. I like people that are just like, don't talk about anything because nothing matters in the preseason. But this isn't even about what happens in the preseason. Let's talk about the NFL then. Right. And we can't do that.
Starting point is 00:22:07 We're going to do that next with Brady Henderson. But I do wonder, I do wonder if maybe Talkett's the guy, not necessarily is like the sprung whisper or anything. That's not it. But if he can give them the structure that he was able to implement to an entire team last year. Yeah, the team was a bunch of sprongs anyway. A lot of spronging. Before
Starting point is 00:22:30 talk had arrived, and sometimes players just need really simple directions. And how many times do we hear that? How many times do we hear that? It's a lot easier now. It's black and white. There's less gray. You know, Bruce Boudreau, lovable guy, had a lot of success in the league.
Starting point is 00:22:50 Not the right coach for the Canucks, though. He was for a bit, but he wasn't long-term because his attitude was like, you guys are good hockey players. Go out and play. His team needed direction, badly needed direction, and maybe Daniel Sprung needs some direction. So a friendly reminder,
Starting point is 00:23:08 tonight at Climate Pledge, not Climate Change Arena, not Lemon Pledge Arena. Oh, it's Lemon Pledge Arena. The Canucks will be taking on the Seattle Kraken. I normally don't do this for preseason games and spend any time talking about the opponent because who knows who they're going to play,
Starting point is 00:23:24 who they're going to address. You don't get the lineups until like an hour before the game i will say this um seattle is leaning into the i5 rivalry are we did you see people trying to call it the i5 ori i saw it i saw it on twitter you don't don't do that um the cracker leaning into it now that sounds like a mistake that Dollywood would make. Yeah, kinda. And we'll see if he does it at eight o'clock when he joins us on the
Starting point is 00:23:50 program. They had an article sort of previewing tonight's game, but also reflecting how chippy Tuesday night's affair was. And John Hayden, who you'll remember scrapped Vilmer Ulrichson in that Tuesday night game said, quote, this is turning into a great rivalry. It's good for both cities. Then get this, Jason.
Starting point is 00:24:10 When asked about how the Kraken approached the game, he said, we had a pack mentality all night against the Canucks. So not only are the Canucks working on their pack mentality, so too are their I-5-les. Well, at least the Kraken are doing something to make themselves interesting. They have to try something. Thursday night football. Last night we're going to get Brady Henderson.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Just thoughts on the game. The Cowboys pull it out. Yeah, the Cowboys got a win despite not having the football for hours at a time. It was a very strange game. 20-15 victory for the Cowboys over the Giants as we want to say on this program. Not an oil painting, but a lot of it
Starting point is 00:24:53 had to do with the fact that the Giants did an amazing job of possessing the football. Nearly 36 minutes time of possession, but you know what they didn't do a good job of? Scoring touchdowns. Yeah, that's important. And score a single one of them. Five field goals last night.
Starting point is 00:25:08 So now they've played two games at home. They don't have a touchdown in either home game. Is it fair to say that Daniel Jones, when he takes the snap, he looks good. Like he looks, he's not immobile. He looks good. He looks like he knows what he's doing.
Starting point is 00:25:25 But then just his accuracy sometimes lets him down. So it's funny. We had a text come in this morning asking about that, saying Daniel Jones' contract is going to be an albatross around this. And I'm like, you saw that from last night? Because last night I thought was one of his better games. Yeah, but he's still like his deep ball can be tough to watch sometimes he hit Malik Davis for one good long pass he missed on a couple others yeah he was pretty accurate last day and the
Starting point is 00:25:52 interception but I think that is if there's any Giants fans out there is his accuracy his number one weakness yes yeah yeah and uh part and parcel that is the decision making that he has. Sometimes he makes really bad decisions where he wants to throw the football. Or maybe it just looks that way because his accuracy is bad. Well, no. He's like, I didn't mean to do that. Here's what I think it is. I think he thinks he's a more accurate thrower than he is.
Starting point is 00:26:19 So he tries to make throws that like a handful of guys can make. And Danny Dimes. I'm going to throw this through the eye of the needle three guys triple coverage no problem danny dimes can throw you're listening to the best of halford and brough you're listening to the best of halford and brough justin and east van will then ask us anything so justin's long time listener um records an inordinate amount of halford and brough content and unfortunately not eligible to win anything because he texts in too frequently.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Your two faces is his entire PVR. Yeah. It's just you guys. But he always sends good ass. This is a good one. Would you rather order a few appetizers or order an entire entree when dining at a restaurant? So a couple of times recently,
Starting point is 00:27:03 I've gone the Couple appetizers route just for something different I think I got Last time I got like wings And a salad And something else Are we talking the prices the same? No I was going to get to that part
Starting point is 00:27:19 Because two appetizers can be way more than one Way more Restaurants I can barely afford to go out to eat anymore. I don't even do it anymore. Except AJ's. Yeah, they make you tip 35% now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Okay, so that's the start. The appetizer. We went to a restaurant the other day and we're like, we're not going to have drinks tonight. And let's see what the bill is. Still expensive. Yeah, I didn't work. It's just not as expensive.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Coke was 10 bucks. What? Was it cheap? No, not cheap. It's just not as expensive. Coke was 10 bucks. What? Was it cheap? No, not cheap. That's not the right word. Appetizer. The appetizer game that Justin is talking about here used to be legitimate. Because there used to be a significant divide between an appetizer price and an entree price.
Starting point is 00:28:00 Now, I've seen a pound of wings or a dozen wings for like 18 19 dollars on the menu yeah yeah so you're not really saving any money you're just getting smaller portions for almost the same amount of money i like the the concept of i will have the truffle fries you know what more people need to do in this city seven dollars yeah you know what more more trouble more people need to do in this city? Is have a competitive happy hour. Like a really good, I need to go there because it's so affordable happy hour. There's too many like Fugazi name only happy hours. It would cost too much now though, even for the restauranteurs. You can do it.
Starting point is 00:28:39 I don't know. You can cut corners. You can also. You just got to keep them in there until happy hour ends. And then be... And then jack up the prices, but they want another drink. And then be vigilant at like 4.59. Like, you better get an order in.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Because at 5, this happy hour is over, and that menu does not exist at 5.01. Because I always look for a happy hour. I love a good happy hour. Wings are too expensive though now, man. Wings should never exceed though now, man. They should not be more. Wings should never exceed 25 cents a wing. That should be the cap
Starting point is 00:29:09 on chicken wings. Unless the wing is like a behemoth of a chicken wing. A-Dog's restaurant out of business in five minutes. No, man. There was this great joint
Starting point is 00:29:17 back in Kamloops. 10 cent chicken wings. Kamloops. Oh, is the rent the same as in Vancouver? Do we do better than offering one flavor? 10 cent chicken wings every Tuesday night.
Starting point is 00:29:26 It was awesome. Chicken wings are too expensive these days. We need to find a different animal with wings that are cheaper, like buzzard wings. You guys got any of those pigeon wings? Pigeon population in Vancouver just decimated. Someone is coming over the happy hour, pigeon wings, and you know it's happening.
Starting point is 00:29:44 One day you're just walking around downtown, you notice there are no more pigeons around here anymore? Do you guys have chicken wings? We have wings. Well, they are wings of a bird. Asterisk wings. MKL, ask us anything. Which sport athlete slash celebrity was your first autograph?
Starting point is 00:30:00 My first one was A-Rod at Yankee Stadium in his final year with the team. I don't remember any, I've never been a big autograph guy. Who was yours then? Trevor Linden. Oh, that's a good one for your first. That's a special time. The Safeway in Richmond.
Starting point is 00:30:17 I think it was 1988. Mine was Darcy Roda. Wow. Weird, mine was Don Cherry. Don Cherry Don Cherry really nice he was
Starting point is 00:30:26 he was coaching a celebrity hockey game that's a good one yeah that's a good one so do you remember
Starting point is 00:30:31 what you got him to sign just a piece of paper yeah I had a piece of paper then I got it laminated Canada first he actually wrote that yeah
Starting point is 00:30:39 he signed it out to you people and then I laminated the Linden autograph and later used it to cover up a hole in my wall that my brother and I punched in the wall because we were screwing around with our wrestlers and he chucked the wrestling ring. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:59 Did you get caught? No. Trevor Linden saved me. Was it like Shawshank Redemption? You had a big hole in your... It was a tiny hole, and I didn't keep digging it bigger and bigger.
Starting point is 00:31:10 Covered up with a signature of Trevor Linden. I was free to leave whenever I wanted. I just needed to cover up that one hole. So Trevor Linden, not only was it my first autograph, but it first saved me from a very serious punishment. You should have told him this when we had him on last year. I didn't want to age him. I didn't want to do it. I would have loved to see his reaction. Yeah, I didn't want to do it. You should have told him this when we had him on last year. I didn't want to age him. I didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:31:25 I would have loved to see his reaction. Yeah, I didn't want to do it. Trevor, have you seen Shawshank Redemption? Yeah. It's like, where is this story going? Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall.
Starting point is 00:31:44 Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Dolly. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Rick Dollywall. It's time for Dolly. Rick Dollywall. It's time for Rick Dollywall. Rick Dollywall. 802 on a Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. Halford Brough, Sportsnet 650.
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Starting point is 00:32:45 on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Good morning, Rick. How are you? By the way, the second biggest high school in Western Canada and a huge high school. We needed a 10-minute break to walk during the breaks, to walk from one end of the
Starting point is 00:33:01 school to the other. Best high school in the Lower mainland, nothing comes close. It was so big, that's why all the students fell through the cracks there. And Marjanovic, Bobby graduated four years before I did. He graduated in 82, I graduated in 86. But Bob took eight years, I took four. You guys are still, Moe's told the exact same joke about you. You guys have the same routine.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Is this what they teach you at New West? That's it. Hey, but look at... Come on. Moe, you know he barely got past grade 12. Come on. Let's talk about Ian Clark. There's more. I thought this story was over. Well, actually, I didn't. I thought that at some point, Ian Clark
Starting point is 00:33:43 might move on from the organization, possibly sooner rather than later. Is that happening right now? Okay, I'm going to tell you this. I said on the show last week on Donnie and Dolly that it will not surprise me. I said this a week ago. It will not surprise me if the Canucks give Clark permission to talk with teams at some point this year. I don't think the relationship's in a good state. I think it's definitely soured. When the Canucks demoted him to goalie scout, I believe he wanted the director of goaltending title. In the Canucks' defense, it was Clark who said he didn't want to be on the ice every day
Starting point is 00:34:15 because of bad shoulders and knees. But I don't think he expected to be named a scout. His resume clearly tells you he is way more than a scout. He's very well respected around the league. Now, is Clark looking for a new job? Are the Canucks helping him? There's a lot of ways to look at this. Clark was not at the Canucks' main training camp in Penticton. Why would the guy who's got the most knowledge about all your goalies on your staff, the drafted ones, everybody, not be a camp worker with these goalies, keeping an eye on Demko and others.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You know, this guy has made all major goalie decisions for the Canucks in the past how many years? When Casey DeSmith was ready after one game, missing one game in Nashville, it was Clark who said, nope, we're going to stick with Seeloff. We're going to stick with him. This guy has made major decision after major decision after major decision. I heard he wasn't even in town that weekend when the Canucks were at training camp in Penticton. Now he's got two years left on his deal. If he isn't one, he is 1A in terms of the highest paid goalies in the National Hockey League. I know Elliot linked the Devils to Clark.
Starting point is 00:35:24 You could link a lot of teams to clark i could list others but the bottom line is how much longer is clark in vancouver he's very well respected the last demko contract remember this guys demko made sure clark was going to be re-signed before he re-signed uh jim benning signed clark after he signed Demko. Demko's got two years left on his deal. They have a very good relationship. There's a lot of things at play when it comes to Clark and his future in Vancouver right now. Okay, I have a two-part question. The first question is a simple yes or no. First question, is it fair to say that the relationship between Ian Clark and the Canucks has been damaged. Yes. Follow-up question.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Why specifically is it bad? Yeah. Look, it started in the summer. Jason, he went to the Canucks, and he said, look, I can't be the everyday goaltender. Give me another title. I firmly believe, probably with his resume and how many years in the league and how important he is to this team
Starting point is 00:36:29 and how many great goaltenders he's had. Bob Roski, Luongo, Demko, Markstrom, the list goes on. Probably thinking, you know, Luongo's got that title of director of goaltending title in Florida. Probably was looking something like that. But I don't think... He had that, didn't he? He had that title.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Yeah, but when they restructured everything, he went to a goaltending scout. Like, I just... We are hearing more and more that this relationship, you know, could be, you know, fractured. It is. And the fact that now we're hearing teams that are linked to Ian Clark,
Starting point is 00:37:07 like the Devils. The Devils, by the way, have a large goaltending staff. They have a goalie coach. But you know who loves Clark in New Jersey. It's Jacob Markstrom, right? There's even that rumor that Markstrom named his kid after Ian Clark. Not Ian, but I think he named him Clark. Right. But, you know, Markstrom named his kid after Ian Clark. Not Ian, but I think he named him Clark. Right.
Starting point is 00:37:26 But, you know, there's a great relationship there. He's got great relationships with a lot of goalies around the National Hockey League, but now you're starting to hear teams link to him, and it's just exactly what I said last week. I will not be surprised if the Canucks at some point give this guy permission at some point this year to talk to
Starting point is 00:37:45 other teams. So I don't want to continue putting you on the spot here. I do. Did the relationship and the fracture in the relationship, was it related at all to possibly a disagreement on how hard goalies like Thatcher Demko should be working on a day-to-day basis? That's a good question because I'm going to tell you something. After he was demoted to goalie scout, you started hearing a lot in the media about Demko was overworked. Demko, you know, he shouldn't have, you know, played that first game against Nashville. And you started hearing national guys link Clark with, you know, Demko's injury.
Starting point is 00:38:27 You know, did he overwork him? Did he? I'm not going to blame Ian Clark for Demko. Three coaches in this city have overplayed him. And Travis Green and Boudreaux essentially had bad teams. So when you have a really good goaltender like him, especially Boudreaux, and even last year, like if he didn't get hurt when he got hurt, he was on pace for 65 games.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You can blame Ian Clark for working Demko too, but you've got to put some heat on the coaches who kept playing him. He can't play over 60 games. His sweet spot is 50 to 55. And this is something, and maybe the Canucks learned from this whole thing, and when Demko comes back Jason they have got to come up with a plan for him you know rest practice games you have a goaltender who now essentially he's been out seven months so we don't know how many more
Starting point is 00:39:18 months he's going to be out and you know that he can't play 60 65 games as an organization I think they have to sit down and I have to they have to map out a plan for this guy and he can't play 60, 65 games. As an organization, I think they have to sit down, and they have to map out a plan for this guy, and they can't overplay him. And after the All-Star game last year, remember they had those road trips back east, and he was still playing a ton? I think as an organization, you can't put that on Ian Clark.
Starting point is 00:39:42 You've had coaches in the city that have overplayed him as well. Is there any update on Factor Demko? And I know, well, from what you told me, the Canucks aren't very happy that his specific injury got out. Progress is being made. He's still not ready to skate with the main group. He's skating on his own this week. Still no set date for his return. I don't know why, Jason, they don't say it's week-to-week, which essentially actually it is. We're kind of monitoring him week-to-week, but I do expect the Canucks to start the season with
Starting point is 00:40:11 three goaltenders. I do expect that. Yeah, the Canucks were not happy that it got leaked out. Pop Latius, they were quite upset about that. Funny thing is, there was a lot of reporters close to naming that name. Kevin Woodley got it.
Starting point is 00:40:29 When the team doesn't announce an injury of a high-profile player in a Canadian market, reporters are going to take it upon themselves to get that info. Look at William Nylander last year in Toronto. Remember that? Leafs didn't announce it. Elliott Friedman got it through hard work. And just like Woodley, Friedman felt the heat for releasing that. I think in a Canadian market, when you don't release the injury of a high-profile player like Fajard Emko,
Starting point is 00:40:55 I think the media is going to go fishing. And Woodley did. I just want to say that Woodley, I thought he did a great job. And he's great at what he does. But the Canucks were not happy that Pop Latias got out there. Now, it sounds like Kevin Lankanen might play tonight in Seattle, Seelovs possibly tomorrow in Calgary. I know you've been impressed with how Seelovs has looked since Lankanen was signed and just overall.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Hey, I got to give Seelovs credit. I don't imagine he was doing cartwheels about the Lankanen was signed and just overall? Hey, I got to give Seeloff's credit. I don't imagine he was doing cartwheels about the Lankanen signing. Just like I don't think Vernon Adams was doing cartwheels when the Lions signed Nathan Rourke. But hey, it's pro hockey. It's pro sports. That's what happens in pro sports. Things change real quick. Since the Lankanen signing on Saturday, look at what Seeloff's has done. He could have pouted, he cried, his performance could have gone down. He was great in the inter-squad game at training camp on Sunday, then played great in his first preseason game against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:41:53 That's a good sign to me about this young kid's mental toughness. He didn't let the Lankanen signing affect his play. If Demko is out for a while more after the regular season, that Seeloff-Lankanen duo should be just fine to start the season. Lankanen will play in Seattle tonight, but now I'm starting to figure out why the Canucks got Lankanen. And if Thatcher's not there for a while after the regular season opener, Canucks are looking a whole lot better than they would have
Starting point is 00:42:22 if it was Seelovs and Patera, although Patera played good the other night. And I want to give credit to the Canucks. They did a masterful job of outweighing Lankanen. When training camp started, Lankanen lost agent. Him and his agent lost leverage. Canucks got the leverage, and they outweighed that guy at a great price. And right now, today, they're better off for it, and so is their goaltending situation.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Did you see that John Gibson just had an appendectomy too? He was out for a few weeks. Lankanen was like, come on! Couldn't have had that earlier! And that was a team that Lankanen's agent was looking at all summer. I think the two teams were Anaheim and Vancouver. And then there's also the situation in New York with the Islanders. Their number one goaltender is out as well.
Starting point is 00:43:06 So there were some openings for Lankanen, but the goalie market dried up, and he had no choice. Like, he literally, as soon as camp started, and he was kind of stuck in Finland because all the Finland NHL sharpshooters left, and he kind of was going to have a tough time getting good reps in with good shooters in Finland. So I think his agent did a good job and said, look, we've got to get going, and I think the Canucks are better for it. I'm going to give you a choice here.
Starting point is 00:43:33 If one of these guys is going to make the team, Lekker Mäki or Ratu, who's it going to be? First of all, I want to give credit to Ratu. He improved his skating over the summer. He had a skating coach in Finland. He put in the hours. His agent told me that Ratu comes from a very disciplined, hardworking family. Now, remember this. His brother's in Utica with the Utica Hockey Club system,
Starting point is 00:43:57 and he's close to making that team. His maturity and growth in the past 12 months has been pretty damn good. He's starting to put it together. Now, remember this. He never got called up by the Canucks last year, but the way his training camp is gone and the way his preseason is gone, he has definitely put himself in the conversation to be called up this season if he's not on the opening night roster. There was Talkit again yesterday commenting about Ratu. He's clearly impressing who he needs to impress. If he makes it and plays for the Canucks,
Starting point is 00:44:30 he's going to make the Bo Horvat trade a whole lot more digestible. The Canucks need Rattu to make it. They can't keep plugging two centermen for free agency on one two-year deal forever. They need centermen coming through the system, and I think this kid and I think Sasson, if the Canucks a chance to build from within at the center ice position. Hey, Rick, we got a question from Maury, the mill manager here. We're going to go back to the injury, Demko's injury getting out. Maury asked the question,
Starting point is 00:45:04 why are the Canucks so bent out of shape about the Poplatius injury getting out? What is, what is, is it, is it, they just don't like information getting out regardless? Or do they see a potential liability or vulnerability that people know what the injury is? What, what is the reason there that they'd be upset? Well, it's, we'd have to ask them. But, you know, if they didn't release Popliteus, hold on a second, I got it written down. Before I say this, I lost my paper. Hold on a sec here.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Popliteus, where is it? Yeah, you got it. You just said it. I know, but I'm going to screw it up if I don't have it written down. You just said it. If they wanted Popliteus out there, they would have released Popliteus. But clearly, it irked them that Popliteus got out, and Popliteus is out there now, and they're not happy. It's not a person, you know.
Starting point is 00:45:59 It's a part of your body. I can't believe I nailed Popliteus. You know what When I have something written on a piece of paper I start sweating And you know how I phonetically Spell everything out Remember how I spelled Ratu to you last night Anyways
Starting point is 00:46:15 Poplatius I have to spell it out phonetically Just like this Russian kid out of the OHL I love this kid I'm not going to say it It's Corral Is it Kudryatsev There's a Russian kid out of the OHL. I love this kid. Oh, yeah. His name, I'm not going to say it. It's Corral, but I can't say it. Is it Kudryatsev? Kudryatsev.
Starting point is 00:46:29 This kid, keep an eye on him. I'm telling you, this kid's going to be a player. I texted Milstein. I said, how do you pronounce his name? And Milstein sent me a voice text. I still screwed it up. Does Milstein have any clients left? Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:46:44 He's got the kid from the OHL. With the Canucks. I know he's got a lot of clients. Yeah, he's got the kid. He's got Klimovich, and he's got Sasson. Right. Right? So he's got, like, this kid from the OHL, Corral, you know, and him. And I told you the Sawyer Minio, I've been on the Minio train for a while. I told you guys last year, this kid's going to be a player. He's going to have a monster year in Seattle this year. Canuck fans, keep an eye on him when the Thunderbirds come to Vancouver to play the Giants. This kid's going to have these two young defensemen. They're making waves. When Rick Tockett singles out two junior age kids, I know he's going to play in Abbey,
Starting point is 00:47:20 but when he singles out kids like that, that's impressive to me. And he has singled out Sawyer Mineo, and he has singled out Corral, the OHL Russian defenseman, and that's pretty damn impressive to me when Rick Talker singles him out like that. He also singled out Alrickson. I love this kid. And, you know, you heard the story, you got in the fight the other night. Last year in the OHL, his agent told me he got offered to fight a lot. And he finally got in a fight with a kid and he beat him up and nobody asked him to fight again for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:47:55 He is a giant out there, as are you in this media industry, Rick. Thanks for joining us today. No more Pop Latias. That's it. I don't want to hear Pop Latiteas for the rest of the year. No more. I think you're the most upset that it got leaked. Well, and this Russian kid and Sawyer Minion, watch out.
Starting point is 00:48:13 The good kids. Bye. See you, Rick. Rick Dollywell. You know what? Not a great hang up there. No. Kind of glitched out when you did it.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah. By the way, we've got someone texting in. This person says, I work in physical therapy therapy and this has been the most annoying week seeing and hearing everyone become experts and then mispronouncing what we've been calling popliteus. Now he seems to suggest that it's not popliteus, it's popliteus? Popliteus. Popliteus? Popliteus. Popliteus. Popliteus it's popliteus popliteus popliteus popliteus popliteus popliteus popliteus so i asked uh the dogs to find some audio on youtube of a doctor talking about whatever he's going to pronounce it like the popliteiteus muscle, or in Latin, musculus popliteus, is a small muscle located at the knee joint. Are you suggesting...
Starting point is 00:49:12 There you go. Wait a minute. Are you suggesting that someone who texts into a radio show claiming to be a physician might not be accurate? Are you saying there's hard words to say? I find it hard to believe. This person that we have not vetted at all. What percentage of the show is just us trying to figure out how to pronounce stuff?
Starting point is 00:49:32 Far too much. When there's injuries, it's pretty much the whole show. For people that do it professionally. And the players on the Canucks. And they've really, I have to say, they've really thrown us a curveball. We got two Elias Pettersons on the team, but one is Elias Petterson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And these pronunciations are going around. It's like Elias Petterson, number 40, that guy with the contract. DPD is Elias Petterson. Yeah. I don't like it. I don't care for it. You're listening to the best of Halford & Brough.

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