Halford & Brough in the Morning - The Moj Talks Canucks & Lions + What We Learned

Episode Date: July 18, 2025

In hour three, guest hosts Jamie Dodd & Israel Fehr chat with BC Lions radio commentator and Canucks beat writer Bob "The Moj" Marjanovich (1:51) about the latest around the Leos and 'Nucks, the boys tell us what they learned (27:00), plus it's Ask Us Anything Friday (40:00)! This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Moj what's going on man? Good morning counselor good morning Izzy. How you doing? Doing well. Looking forward to a big game tomorrow versus the Saskatchewan Rough Riders at BC Place. Yeah no kidding it's an exciting one and the Lions coming off a couple of wins in a row. But this figures to be a bit more of a test, certainly when their last win against Edmonton was. Yeah, I mean, the win against Montreal was fine.

And Danny is a walk off field goal by Sean White. But even the Lions will tell you in that game, there's a lot that they had to clean up. And they played a pretty complete game against Edmonton last week, however it's Edmonton. It's a team that is struggling, only has one win on the season and here comes Saskatchewan Roughriders who suffered their first defeat of the season last week at home against the Calgary Stampeters in a bit of a fiasco with all the delays and all that. But I think you're going to see a fired up Saskatchewan

Roughrider team coming into BC place and should make for a great game. Lions three and three through six, been some ups, been some downs, but some injuries as well. That's part of the conversation, obviously, first and foremost, Nathan Rollins missing a couple of games.

Yeah, to me, it's one of the kind of a underlined storylines with this team. And I don't think people are talking about it much but I mean, offensive line has been ravaged by injuries and you know, you've lost some surprise off-season acquisition from the Toronto Argonauts, a former MVP offensive lineman in the league. He's been out of the lineup, Tyler Packer's been out of the lineup, Michael Couture's been out of the lineup, so they lost David Foucault in the preseason who was going to be their sixth offensive lineman.

So you lost a whole bunch of pieces on that offensive line. But as we saw last game, you had guys coming in and filling in and getting the job done. Guys like Andrew Pearson at center, Neil Manning playing a tight end roll. So it's, it's been a nice job by Paul Sherbino, the offensive line coach, um, to get that group going. And you know, with injuries come opportunity and we see it on the defensive line as well, because you've lost a couple of interior guys the last couple of weeks in Dwayne Hendrix and Jonah Tavae. And you have a guy like Kamasi Lalule come in and just dominate. Um, he's a guy that's come in and

played really well for the Lions and Kamoko Turei is back this week. He missed last week due to a suspension. Kavai, hopefully, will be back. So all of a sudden now he's starting to get some depth on these, with these two units, just because of the fact that you've had all these players gain this experience and time due to injuries. What does that say about the job the the front office did building this team that they're able to withstand some of these injuries? And as you say, not just injuries, but key injuries to the lines. And we all know how important the line of scrimmage is, right?

And the fact that they're sustaining some of those and still able to get back to 500 is pretty impressive. Well, I think one of the things that has changed this year, and I know we've talked about this in the past with Jason and Mike, was that with Ryan Rigg-Maden taking over as general manager, you are bound to see players get looks that probably wouldn't have before. And I say that because in any team, there's always a battle with the personnel guys, the general managers, and the coaches.

I shouldn't say a battle, but always discussions, always debates. And personnel guys, they've been following guys maybe four or five, six years through their college career, maybe a couple years in the NFL, whatever the case may be. And they got a pretty good book on guys, right? When a guy comes to training camp and he has five bad practices,

just what the coach wants to do. You know, it probably wants to cut them. Right. Um, and yet, you know, the personnel guys are like, no, give this guy a shot. I mean, he's going to be okay when it's all said and done. So it's kind of that battle, that debate that always goes on. And in previous years with the Lions, with Rick Campbell, I think there was a real, um, tendency to go with what we know and not to give players that we don't know extensive looks.

I think with Ryan Rigmaden taking over as general manager, these new players are getting a lot longer leash and they're getting a lot more look. You know, La Lule is a perfect example on the defensive line. Would he have gotten a look with Rick Campbell? I don't know. Right? I can't say for sure, but you know, given the fact that Ryan Rigmaden was high on this guy and you know, been scouting him for a while, you know, they were high on this kid

going into camp and he got hurt in camp and obviously he's come back and been a force to be reckoned with. If we look at the first six games here as the first chunk of the season, now the Lions coming back home for a big game against the Ryder's as you said. What's important for them over the next few weeks here? What do you need to see? Well I think just to keep building on what they did against Edmonton and that's playing disciplined football, the turnovers were a thing that absolutely killed the BC Lions

in their three losses and they kind of cleaned that up a little bit. Penalties, they, it's funny because the first three weeks of the season, they were the least penalized team in the league, the first three games of the season, I should say. And then two games in a row, they just got absolutely hammered penalties, like, you know, triple digits. And then last week against Montreal, they were pretty good for the most part, but they got a little sloppy at the end when the game kind of got out of hand certain things happen and you know maybe it was just a case of the score dictating guys being a little

looser but that's one thing I think Buck Pierce always talks about is penalties and turnovers and you know that's the one thing that you always have to be on the right side of if you want to win football games. And I know it's maybe a little early to be doing too much standing watching here right still a lot of season left in the CFL but still you look at the West Division standings and you know already with the three losses In the loss column and the the teams above them Calgary, Saskatchewan, Winnipeg now granted They've all played fewer games than the Lions, but all sitting on only one loss from that perspective I mean how important is this one against Saskatchewan as you said?

We know it's gonna be a tougher, always a big game when the, when the riders are in town, but even this relatively early in the season, it feels like a big game in the standings too. Yeah, it is. And you know, the, the fact of the matter is the lions lost their game in Saskatchewan. They lose this game tomorrow. They've lost the season series against Saskatchewan. So not only are you behind Saskatchewan in the standings,

but now if there's any sort of tie, um, the Saskatchewan rough riders would have that tiebreaker. So, you know, it's a double whammy in that sense. Yeah. And you're perfect. And you're exactly right. I mean, this is a game that, you know, I don't want to say it's a must win. There's a lot of football left. And with the crossover, who knows, but, um, you don't want to be caught in a hole where, you know, you're looking at, you're looking at a situation where you have to climb a mountain.

Yeah, no doubt about it. Moj, while we have you here, I wanted to ask you as well about the Canucks trade that went down yesterday afternoon, Dakota Joshua on his way out. He'll, he's a member of the Toronto Maple Leafs now fourth round pick coming back. And you know, as is so often the case with Jim Rutherford and Patrick Alveen, it feels like this move is all about what comes next with the cap space they opened up. Yeah. You know,

we've heard Jack Rosalick's name being mentioned a couple of times here and there, but I mentioned this with Halferd and Bruff a few weeks back. I just, you know, one of the things that I really learned, well kind of gleaned in talking to people within the organization last year was that they needed to strengthen their leadership group. And that was a priority with how would we put it? People who are no longer with the organization. And it was something that, you know, they, he, you know, Rick, talk,

talk about it. He wanted to prioritize that to improve the leadership group within the team. And none of the moves that we've seen, I mean, you bring in a Vander Kane, okay, but there's no other moves that have kind of, you know, that would probably help in that situation in that regard. And I still think they're on, clearly their moves coming by clearing some cap space with Dakota Joshua But I think that's one of the things that they want to address and they will address before it's all said and done

You know, it's interesting because Canuck fans are always in a fury about all the moves But Ryan Burke had a great line. He said we'll play a game until October, right? So there's a lot of time between now and October and it'll be interesting to see how the Canucks move forward in terms of some Of their moves. I think most fans see the logic here and Moving some cap and opening up some roster spots as well But the one feedback that we've been getting since the trade went down yesterday in the text box is Some people concerned about the the loss of the physicality and then that Joshua brought that element to the team Where do you think that that lands on the Canucks list of potential concerns?

Yeah, okay, so a couple of points. One, yeah, okay, you lose some physicality in Joshua, but you're going to be getting some physicality in Evander Kane. So that's a trade-off. But the one thing that always kind of amuses me is when people look at a trade and they start critiquing a team or they're saying this is all we got for them, remember you have that cap space now, right? Not only did you get the pick back but you've also acquired cap space. What are you going to do with that cap space? Once they make a move and fill that cap space then I think you can look at this and say, okay well maybe they went out and got another rugged winger who's the leader, whatever the case make a move and fill that cap space, then I think you can look at this and say, okay,

well, maybe they went out and got another rugged winger who's the leader, whatever the case may be, to address some of their issues and some of their concerns. But you know, that's one of the things that I always look at when these moves are made. Fans always have a tendency to kind of fly off the handle and, you know, we lost Dakota Joshua. Well, no, you traded Dakota Joshua and you're going to get cap space. What are the Canucks going to do with that cap space? So until those moves are made, until that cap space is filled up, it's tough to judge

this move moving forward. Hey, Moj, one of the big sports stories of the week, Cal Raleigh winning the home run derby, kind of getting his moment in the spotlight and a chance to be acknowledged for just the incredible season he's having so far for the Mariners and I understand you've unearthed maybe a bit of a Vancouver connection with Calrally. Well a little bit of a Vancouver connection so we've had our original six fantasy baseball pool since 1990 right so every year we draft prospects and there's we have a five round draft where we draft guys in

the minor leagues. I mean it's pretty deep. I mean I drafted Julio Rodriguez when he was like a rookie ball. There you go. Anyway Cal Raleigh was a prospect with the Mariners and he was not a great prospect. He was ranked like you know probably like number 10 with the Mariners like within the organization. He wasn't even one of their top five guys.

So it was like a middling prospect, so to speak. But anyway, every spring I get together with Andy Dunn. We usually go for coffee or whatever. And Andy, of course, was the president of the Vancouver Canadians for many years. And by the way, just got hired by the Detroit Tigers as VP of business office, in case people didn't know. But Andy, every year we kind of talk about certain guys. He goes, Hey, you got to drop Cal Raleigh.

And I'm like, Cal Raleigh. I go, he's not that highly ranked. He goes, I played baseball with his dad. He was my roommate at Western Carolina. This kid is going to be good. Get Cal Raleigh. Of course I didn't listen to his advice, but Andy done called that one from a mile away and a personal connection

there with Andy as he mentioned. He played college baseball at Western Carolina with Todd Raleigh, Cal's dad. Well, and Todd, as we saw, can groove it in BP, huh? He was putting it right in the wheelhouse every time. Well, he even beamed his kid and it was funny because I actually phoned Andy and I said, I remember the story you told me like many years ago. I just phoned Andy the other day and he was telling me, he goes, yeah. And he goes, he also hit his own kid. He goes, what's he doing?

He still keeps in touch with them. They, they text and call there every so often. And Andy said he was texting him and giving him a hard time about flunking his kid in a home run Derby contest. Yeah. I feel like he'll be hearing about that one for a while. Are you a fan? Are you pro or con on the big dumper nickname? I did a show with Prath on Monday

and he was like, it makes me uncomfortable. I don't like it. They do shots of his butt too much. And it's like, I think it's hilarious. What do you think about the big dumper? You know what? I like it. And I'll tell you why, because it gets people talking and it's different. Come on. It's, it's original. It's not, it's not rousy. You know what I mean? Like a hockey nickname these days is just adding S Y to a guy's name, right?

Bill Z. My Z, right? I mean, who's Z, right? I mean, come on, this is original. You gotta love it. It's a great nickname. I mean, it's one that's never been used before. And I think it's awesome.

I think it's fantastic. And he got the Porta Potty sponsorship this week off of it too. So that's anytime your nickname is setting you up like that, you got to feel pretty good about it. Okay. We got to wrap up here. It's an ask us anything Friday. I know your favorite segment here on the show, Moj and Timmy the tuner texts one in for you says, Moj,

the big thing on tick talk right now is browning the pasta first before you boil it. Have you done this and is it worth it I've never heard of this no owning the pasta first no no clue you know what that's a great question and I'm gonna have to defer to my my colleague Julio Caravata because he's like a pasta expert but I've never heard of that nor have I done it so I looked it up here quickly and they say you can either like do it in the oven I guess on a baking sheet for a little bit or like on on a skillet for a little bit just toasted up a little bit brown it and then boil it. I might have

to try it at some point. No no. You know what I might have to give it a roll. I'm definitely now. Now I'm intrigued. Yeah. And I'm definitely going to talk about it with Julia during the broadcast tomorrow night. I'm shocked you hadn't seen it on Tik Tok already Moja. No. All right Moja. This is awesome man. We appreciate it as always. I have a great call in the Lions game tomorrow. Okay fellas have a great weekend. That is Bob the Moja Marjanovic of course doing color commentary for the BC Lions and covering all things Vancouver sports. Joining us here on how for an improv every Friday. You ever Browned your past? I've never heard of this. I'm not on the tick tock on the tick tock.

Tick tock makes me feel the way the big dumper makes broth feel. I've only seen like my wife used to use tick tock and I like I've seen individual tick tock. Yes, I have to. But I'd never really seen the app before. And she showed it to me just like the experience of like being on tick tock. And it's just like video video video video And you don't really like follow in the ball as much. Yeah, it's a poor man's vine man I told I reached their perfection with vine and it's all gone downhill from there. My reaction was it's like it felt like

The social media or app you would see in like a dystopian science fiction movie. That's what it felt. Oh, we're there Jamie We're living in a dystopian science fiction universe. That's what it felt. Oh, we're there, Jamie. We've reached it. We're living in a dystopian science fiction universe. So that's fitting. Humanity has gotten progressively stupider since TikTok was released. I wonder if there's a correlation there. Although Twitter, Twitter certainly didn't help in that regard. Social media in general, I'm sure, is a leading factor in that.

Yeah. Well, that actually makes me think of on this. A year from now, Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey will be released. Okay. I saw the trailer when I went to see Superman. They, because they haven't released the trailer to the public. It's not on the internet.

It's just in theaters. Just in theaters, which is an interesting choice. And it's a very little tiny teaser, but it looks cool. Well, so you could buy your tickets in a year in advance. Wow. Okay. And what happened is that a bunch of people bought tickets and now they're trying to scalp them. So a regular, you know, IMAX movie, 25, 30 bucks,

they're trying to sell them at least in the US, 500 US. And I think I saw on social media as people going, people's brains have melted so much from social media that they might be willing to pay $500 to go see a movie that they could just go see two hours later yeah or the next day it's not this exclusive concert that's only doing one show and you got you it's it's super exclusive not a Stanley Cup final ticket where it's like there's only a few of these games gonna be able to go see the movie going to be in every movie theater

across the continent but in the piece I was reading the argument was basically that people are so pilled by social media that if they're not at the first screening, then they feel like they're missing out. That's sad. That's tough. I just went whoo. What a depressing story you just shared with us, Izzy.

Yeah, I just thought, you know, we were right on the precipice there with the dystopia. Let's just ram it through. Push it over the edge. Does sound like a cool movie, though, but I will not be paying secondary. No way. Secondary market prices. That's absolutely wild. All right. Six 56 50 is the dumb bar lumber text line. We got a lot of great ask us any things that are coming in and we're going to

dive into those next. We can do some, what we learned potentially as well. I did just want to kind of close up on what we were talking about earlier, which is who is the next Canuck that's going to be honored by the team either in the ring of honor or to have their Jersey retired. I wanted to give a shout out to a name that came in a lot as a potential, which is Tony Tanti. And now Tanti we were talking like we were talking about has the moment passed for Ryan Kessler. Obviously Tanti and now Tanti we were talking like we were talking about has the moment passed for Ryan Kessler Obviously Tanti played in the 80s. So it's been a long time and you do kind of think if it was going to happen Shouldn't it have already happened and I know you know if Rick Dollywall is listening, which I'm sure he is

He'll be very happy that we've brought up Tony Tanti's name. It came in a lot in the inbox He is six all-time in goals for the franchise, 250 goals in 531 games played. I think the thing holding him back is, you know, only eight seasons and I say only, but you know, we look at a lot of the greats who've been retired, who've been honored in some way. It's more than that. It's up into double digit season longevity for sure. And then of course it's the lack of playoff success as well, right? He wasn't a part of that 80 to come in right after comes in right after it. So he doesn't even have that on his resume and how much weight do you want to put on.

You know the guy who was a best player on perennially disappointing teams. I'm not saying I should have no weight like he put up numbers. It's also that was a very high scoring era in the NHL. It sounds like I'm really trying to like bring the hammer down on Tony Tanties candidacy here. I'm not necessarily. I don't remember watching him and I'm old enough for that so I don't have the same emotional connection. It just feels like it would have happened by now and it's probably that ship has sailed and he's a guy that just especially if the bar has been risen, been raised here by the organization. He's a guy that's just especially if the bar has been

been raised here by the organization. He's a guy that just doesn't quite get there. Well, here's the argument is in terms of production and in terms of longevity, his entire Canucks tenure is similar to what Brock Besser has done now. So if you're pro to like you said, best player on some bad teams. Yeah, Brock Besser, I guess maybe outside of the rookie season, has not been the Canucks best player. No, but he's been a good productive player, yeah.

And you're skittish on if Brock Besser plays another seven years here and scores some goals, where does he end up? So Brock Besser at this point is not, you know, slam dunk ring of honor at this point. Tony Tanti's numbers are very similar to that. Very similar to what Brock Bester has done. You have to be, to not play a ton of games, you have to be Pat Valbura.

You have to be the most exciting player in the league, the best goal scorer in the league at that time. Otherwise it's Stan Smeal, Trevor Linden, the Sedines, Marcus Nazlin, all play tons of games. It's lifers, yeah. And even you look at the ring of honor guys, right? Like Burroughs and Matthias Ola, it's like they play in a ton of games and had those moments for the team as well. So shout out to Tony Tanti, awesome. Canucks career, but I think falls short of the bar. Alex McGill. Me another guy that was texting. I don't see it five years, like had some good years, but also some very frustrating moments.

But yes. And I get, he's in the hall of fame now, but it's just not enough connection to associated with other teams Yeah, didn't have the longevity again. We all love Alex McGillin. He's awesome Yeah, a lot of people's favorite player from that era Yeah, but doesn't doesn't have the total resume to to get to that level from a Canucks perspective To to get to that level from a Canucks perspective. All right 650 650 is the dumb bar lumber text line and you do still have a couple of minutes here to text in your last minute Ask us anything submissions, but we've got a lot of good ones coming in as well So we'll go into the next segment here. We will dive into the inbox I don't even think we have any what we learned prepared at At least I certainly don't. I don't want to speak for everyone else,

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Dot-com today before we go into the inbox and print out the listener submissions for ask us anything on what we learned before We announced the winner of the hundred hundred dollar gift card for AJ's pizza on East Broadway I think we have at least one What we learned that we should get to from the four of us a dog we going to you Yeah, I guess it's it's that time of year again as a West Ender what we learned that we should get to from the four of us. A dog, we going to you? Yeah, I guess it's that time of year again, as a Westender, I should mention, there's a big thing happening in the West and on Saturday tomorrow.

It's the 2025 Celebration of Lights. Once again, they're back Saturday, next Wednesday, and then next Saturday are the three performances. 10 p.m. to 10.30 p.m. It's, if anyone's ever gone, it's,, it's 200,000 people in a three block radius. It's very crowded. But so if you're planning on going, I would get there early if you can, especially if you want to get a spot on the beach.

But it is a lot of fun and the performances are usually excellent. This year it's a little bit different because it's not international. All three teams are from Canada. I don't know if this is an Elbows Up sort of theme with what's going on. I think so, but I don't know if this is a like an elbows up sort of theme I think it was a thing so I don't know. Yeah, I'm not a hundred percent sure but nevertheless so tomorrow It's the Yukon on Wednesday. It's Quebec and the next Saturday the 26th is Nova Scotia So three teams from Canada sure the three provinces and territory I guess that are well known for their fireworks is there so like does every province have How do you choose like who's doing the Yukon fireworks? You know what I mean? are well known for their fireworks. Is there so like, does every province have?

How do you choose like who's doing the Yukon fireworks? You know what I mean? Like, is there like, is there like, where are you selecting from? Yeah, there's like an internal competition, an all star team of Yukon fireworks. They won the districts and then they went on. It would be funny if it worked like that. Other provincial fireworks competition. Yeah, I don't get it. But anyways, I don't know.

I never really understood how they chose the countries when it was either. The whole thing is confusing. Maybe just throw something in a dartboard kind of thing So you live in the West End? Do you go down to the beach? Okay, not anymore No, okay I mean the first couple years we did just add a novelty and sure luckily my dad also lives in the neighborhood and he's higher Up than me so we could kind of see it from his place. I really want to see it But no generally generally speaking. It is way too crowded So yeah stay indoors. But I mean, it is cool to do if you've never gone before and see. As a kid, I used to go all the time.

I remember in high school, right out of high school, still called Symphony of Fire at that point, I believe. And we would always go traditionally every year through my late teens into my mid-20s, probably. But now, no, it's just the novelty's worn off. Too many people. Yeah. I went a couple of times in high school, now the thought of going I'm like, yeah not for me I will say though is like if you have the day off and you're wanting to make a day of it and then whether

They're super early. Yeah, if you get there by noon, it's not super crowded yet You get a nice spot on the beach and you're just hanging out all day. you watch this fire. Just kill 10 hours. That's a long time. That's a haul. Hey, you'd be surprised what you can do, you know, kill some time. In this city? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, it's a lot of fun if you've never gone before and you don't mind crowds.

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And we'll start with the, the winner of the a hundred dollar gift card to AJ's pizza from mustard shoe Jeff. Great nickname. First of all, who texts in, ask us anything. Would you rather be considered the best athlete in the sport of your choosing to never win a championship or be considered the worst in the same sport to win one. For example, Dan Marino or Brad Johnson. Now that's a very in the NFL. It works really well because of the quarterback thing, right? Like no one talks about the worst middle player or the worst middle linebacker to win a Super Bowl or the worst, you know,

fourth liner to win. Uh, it's like, yeah, of course there's been lots of random guys who've been bottom of the lineup, uh, players, but I think you could worry. It could work for a goalie conversation maybe for sure. I don't think it's a conversation. You think it's I'm Dan Marino every day. That's the thing, right? Cause you're presumably you're getting Dan Marino size paychecks and you're having Dan Marino, Dan Marino until very recently, at least was still cutting endorsement deals and he could do TV. If you like whatever he wanted, like he had the world still open to him. And yeah,

did he have to hear about, you know, greatest QB to never win one for the rest of his life doing Charles Barkley seems to be having a phenomenal time with his life. Would you rather be Robert or phenomenal time with his life. I'm sure. It's would you rather be Robert Ori or Charles Barclay? Yeah. I think we got this question last summer. And for me, it's not close. Robert Ori was a good player.

He was a good player. Yeah. And he won the championship a bunch. He wasn't Charles Barclay. I'd rather be Robert Ori. Wow. All day. Now I guess for Robert,

I wonder what Robert Ori's career earnings were. He probably made decent money. He played on some big teams. Yeah. Big shot Bob. He was not a scrub. He was, you know, a productive player. It doesn't really fit the question. He wasn't the worst player. No, but I'm saying even in that scenario, I'm taking Charles Barkley's seven championships. Yeah. But he's Charles Barkley to Jamie's point about Dan Marino

has had this incredible post playing career where he's like the number one personality on basketball. But every night he gets ripped by Shaq for never winning. Yeah, but that's part of his personality. It is. It is part of the legacy for sure. It is something. That's the thing.

You always have to hear about it. It never goes away. It's always part of the conversation around you. It's always something people are always going to bring it up. By the way, Robert or he made fifty three million in his career starting in nineteen ninety two ninety three. So, you know, adjust that for inflation. It's probably I don't know. It's good. A lot. It's a lot. So it's like I don't I think Robert or he is doing just fine.

He's having a good time. Still, I can see the argument. I can see the argument for being Charles Barkley here. I don't know I Think I think I'm going with the money. I Get you're a Hall of Famer you get a lot of parts gold medalist part of the dream team Charles Barkley. Yeah, I think I think with Robert or eight's a little different cuz not only it's not like he's like he was like Derek Fisher and now Derek Fisher had some big shots too, I guess with Robert or it's a little different because not only it's not like he's like he was like Derek Fisher and how Derek Fisher had some big shots too I guess but like or I'm trying to think of like you know Mark Madsen one yeah

no he wasn't Brian Scalabrine he wasn't end of the bench he had big moments he was a not a star but a key role player it sometimes a key rotation nice for the teams that that won championships with him so it's a little different than just being, I guess the more apt comparison would be like, would you rather be Mark Madsen or Charles Barkley? And there it's like, well, Charles Barkley. Yeah, no, no problem. No question whatsoever there.

Or would you rather be, who's the best NH? Like, would you rather be Joe Thornton or Jerome McGinley? Like AJ Greer who won it this year. You know what I mean? Yeah, I show Thornton Yeah, this is just we fetishize the championship stuff like what what are you LeBron unique lost red wine or something? No, I need a I mean This morning sure opera try a rosé

So now I'm at right after the show. I'm going to pick one up since it's on that's on sale like in the moment, of course being on the championship teams is Ideal but once the careers over and it's like hey I'd rather be an all-timer and I do think for the championship to really matter and you have to have a certain threshold of importance to it You know what I mean? So to really like get the benefit of like I am a champion and you're not like you're not Joe Thornton Jonah Gajdjevic

Champion exactly. That's awesome. That's incredibly cool And when his playing his career is done like no one can take that away from him He gets to say I'm a two-time Stanley champion Vancouver Canucks players over I'll go I'll go Jerome again I'll go the sedines. I'll go Joe Thornton over over Jonah Gajdjevic for sure. All right Thank you to mustard shoe Jeff for texting that one in and winning the hundred dollar gift card to AJ's pizza on East Broadway. All right, let's dive back into the inbox a little bit more 650 650 is the dumb bar lumber text line. It's an ask us anything Friday here on the show. We'll do a Canucks one here. Alex, the spreadsheet wizard says, ask us anything. Why does this

team love trading players coming off an injury filled season? Joshua, McKay of OEL that was a buyout. He says could have been PD to ignore PD if you'd like, but why is it so clear to us watching these guys that these guys are playing bad because they're hurt But so important for the front office to trade these guys at their lowest point the injury angle is an interesting part of this because I do think and I saw in the wake of the Joshua trade a bigger conversation not just related to injuries, but how many Players, you know, we're not talking about Jim Benning, holdovers anymore.

We're talking about players that this management group has identified traded for sign, sometimes signed to pretty significant deals in the case of Dakota Joshua. And then in the relatively short term after that had to move on and not necessarily for home run deals. Right now, Dakota Joshua, it's, they didn't have to pay to get off of it. Uh, like they did with McKay ever even go back to a Jason Dickinson who was a Jim Benning, a holdover. They got at least, you know, nominal value back, some sort of value back for moving on from him.

But I do think it's a fair conversation. It's the classic thing though, where you can go one of two ways with this, where on the one hand you can say, Hey guys, like maybe put a little bit more thought into some of these deals you're signing because you're having to get out of jail an awful lot, whether it's McKay of, you know, even look at Dan and Heinen and Vincent Day, Harney last year, like Curtis Lazar was signed to a multi-year deal and then traded a lot of deadline. There's been a lot of this type of transaction that's happened from

this group. on the other hand I commend them for being willing to say you know what this isn't working. We tried something We signed Dan and hein into a multi-year deal. It's not working boom. You're in Pittsburgh Dakota Joshua We don't hate you as a player, but yeah, you know what we don't know We think we can do more with that cap space so we're going to move on I think especially now and we're already seeing this on. I think especially now and we're already seeing this across the league, the punishment and the cost you incur from doing a deal like Dakota Joshua is so much less than it used to be. They didn't have to pay

to get out of this. They got out of it completely scott free. So now with the salary cap going up and with teams having so much more salary cap space I don't have a problem because the the alternative was with Dakota Joshua was either let him walk as a UFA or trade as a deadline last year in a season where you were having an incredible season and he was a key part of your team. So instead I look at it for Dakota Joshua they got a deal done they kept him in house and then they were able to move him along without really incurring any cost. And yeah, it's at a low web of his value, but they still get the cap space to do something else with. So I think especially now being willing to say, you know what, we're going to sign guys. And if we need to figure it out, we need to create a solution down

the road. We'll be able to now that we're out of the flat cap environment. I think that's the right way to go. You can get out of these deals unless it's a true disaster, true anchor. You're going to be able to move these deals for some sort of positive value. It also overestimates what Dakota Joshua's value is. Sure. In a vacuum, because we saw the value that he brought on ice in that season that you referenced, Jamie, where he was an impact player for them and doing it at a low salary. But it's not like he's a superstar, right? Superstars in the NHL have value. Whatever trade packages are going to be speculated about Quinn Hughes

in the next 12 to 24 months are going to be big value coming back, even if it's, he's forcing his way out. A player like Dakota Joshua is not a first line player. Can he be part of a first line? Perhaps, but that he's not the one driving a first line. And it, it does, because people see what he was able to do a couple of years ago. He has a skill set that's certainly valued in the league and by Canucks fans. The thought is, well, he's a valuable player to the team,

therefore he should have value on the market. And it's just not true. Those kinds of players, especially once they sign for money, there's like not a significant cap hit in the sense of the contract that superstars are signing, but there's a cost there and that is basically the value on the market these days You you're not gonna get it a trade of you know player for player because especially given the Canucks position No, they didn't want that they're like no we that's not

Yeah, so that's that's that's the lead part of it And then the second part of it is I do think yeah on the trade market these kinds of players Are even a guy like Joshua was just a year removed from a really nice season but you know, we're still not he's not a 40-point guy 50-point guy like He could be if he had been healthy that season. He would have been probably a 40-point guy. Yeah This text comes in Jamie Jamie, I disagree. The damage done by signing and moving on is trying to sign free agents. No one wants to come to an organization that is quick to pull the plug on you.

I understand that. And I think it is a risk. I completely understand what the texture is saying. You look at a lot of the caliber of players we're talking about here though. They are all guys where you get them by just winning the bidding, right? Like some players can be really picky about situation and oh, I only want to go to a winning team or I want to play close to my family.

But for the vast majority of free agents, it's who's offering me the most money, right? Who's offering me the best combination of money and term. And I think for those players, they're unlikely to be scared off by the Canucks history. And even, you know, post-Mikaev trade, post-Lazar trade, they still signed Jake DeBrusk, right? They still were able to get players in the door.

I think that's going to be continued to continue to be the case if they're willing to pay for them. I get what the texture is saying and could it, if it really continues like this and it becomes more of a pattern, could it be a problem down the road? Maybe. But I don't think we're there yet. Even with this, this pattern of bringing guys in and then shipping them out on a pretty short timeline. Yeah. J and okay. Falls says, ask us anything since it's vacation season, would you rather go on a vacation that is culturally enriching but not necessarily

restful or go on a relax relaxation vacation where you get to the point where you forget what day it is. I think I have really changed since having kids on this when I think back to like you know my wife and I traveling or traveling before we were together like so my some of my favorite trips like Barcelona. Yep. New York Berlin and I traveling or traveling before we were together. Like some of my favorite trips, like Barcelona, New York, Berlin, and I think the museum common, like vibrant cities, great restaurants, great food, great nightlife, but also the museums and the galleries and the culture, right? So kind of that thing and you're, you're exploring the city.

You're out and about a lot. You're enjoying the food, but you're also enjoying all the cultural stuff Now with kids especially like they're not at the age where it's like we're going to the Met and they're gonna be like, you know What I mean, they're not interested. They don't have the capacity to really be interested in that now Post up on a beach get like a vacation rental with a pool and they're in the pool and I'm sitting a coat to Rose Yeah, that that's what it's all about now for me and I'm sitting a Cotterose Rosé on the patio. Yeah. That's what it's all about now for me. And I think I'll get back to the other mode

of vacationing at some point, but right now, yeah, sun, water, that's all I need right now. Yeah, I like that. And I don't have kids, so at the moment, my vacation coming up this summer is more of a cultural one. Sure. But there is something to be said for just the turn the brain off for a few days.

Maximum relaxation, fall asleep on the deck chair, reading a book. Truly it does not get better than that. I fantasize about that and then when it comes to vacation time, it's well let's go do something that is interesting and that I can't do elsewhere. Yeah, of course, I get that. That's what it's well let's go do something that is interesting and that I can't do elsewhere yeah of course I get that that's what it's all about did you have a favorite vacation spot that you've been you're not necessarily like a repeated one but like a trip that stands out for you oh man off the top of

the dome I mean I'm going to France this summer for the first time so I'm really looking forward to that you're missing the tour de France. I'm not going for the Tour de France though, yeah. Man. What a tragedy for you. I thought about changing my plans after you had such rave reviews for your expectations. After I did such a good job of selling it, what a great viewing experience it would be live. I mean, I love Barcelona. I've been to Barcelona a couple of times.

Yeah, absolutely incredible. Todd has bad takes, another summer related question here. Ask us anything. What is your go-to summer weekend? Go away, go out, stay home and get stuff done. Stay home and do nothing. Uh, he says signs at Todd has bad takes and does nothing on the weekend. I find summer, it's very much similar to like the holiday season where your, your schedule just fills up instantly. And you're like, Oh,

I got to see this person. I'm going to this barbecue We're having these people over or maybe trying to get away for a weekend, etc, etc, etc And then you're like, oh my gosh, there's like no time left in the calendar and look I get it It's summer you want to be out you want to be out and about and doing stuff So I don't have a problem with that But the idea of like spending a summer weekend at home doing nothing I can't even conceive of it It just never ever happens anymore. Yeah, it's, I'm in the same boat too.

I think it's try to enjoy the sunshine, especially, you know, lately with how hot it's been. Hanging out of my apartment is like the last thing that I wanna do. For a few hours, it is nice to carve out some sitting time, some meat time, but, and look, it's also to carve out some sitting time, some meat time. And look, it's also not a terrible, terrible time for sports. There's no hockey, but locally you can still go to a Seas game, you can go to a Lions game, you can go to a Whitecaps game.

I'm a big baseball guy so I still do watch a lot of MLB, whether that's the Mariners or the Blue Jays. I have the MLB TV package. So I'm watching a lot of baseball. If I'm home, I'm watching. I usually have a baseball game on and otherwise it's yeah. Commitments, trying to see friends because not going to act like working in hockey and having hockey related jobs is a huge burden. But it means that during the hockey season, you're pretty busy. So you're you're trying to fill out some some of that social time in the summer.

Steven in Langley, ask us anything. I'm going to Disneyland at the end of August. Sounds fun. What sports team or stadium should I try and get to? I've never been to Dodger stadium, but we had somebody else text in like bucket list trip. I think I was mentioning earlier, maybe it was with Halford yesterday that I've been to a lot of baseball stadiums. Something my dad and I used to do together, travel around just to go to stadiums.

Dodger Stadium was one we never got to and that's number one on my list that I want to go to. So if you're in LA and the Dodgers are there, and I mean now especially with Shohei Otani, you get to see just a phenomenal athlete in action as well. For me, it's clearly Dodger Stadium, the marquee arena venue to go to and and check something out in LA. Yeah, Cosign for sure. Have you been?

I have. Yeah. Is it? It's cool. It's really cool. It's worth the hype I'm giving it? Well it's cool because it's one of the, well it's the, I guess Kansas City's similar timeline but doesn't have the history of Dodger Stadium but like you've got Wrigley and Fenway where you're talking turn of the century. They have a certain aesthetic, a certain history behind them. Then you have the Dodger Stadium is the third oldest stadium in the league, but it's, it's very sixties. It's very, it's sixties LA. It's very, what's upon a time in Hollywood era. It's got that color palette palette and it's um, I mean the great fans are obviously a really like great team right now

And I have been to Angel Stadium as well And if you're just down the street from Disneyland and the angels are playing it's it's an interesting park Yeah, like it's it's not one of them. I wouldn't say it's it's is that that's like the top It's not like 90s vintage yet. It feels very nice. It's actually I think it's older wouldn't say it's in the top 10. Is that like 90s vintage? Yes. Yeah, and it feels very 90s. It's actually, I think it's older and they've done a lot of red-outs. They kinda redid it, yeah. So it's like the retrofitted version of that 60s.

Whereas the Dodger Stadium, they've left untouched. Yeah, and it looks awesome on TV, I always think. And it looks like a beautiful place to see a game and the sun setting and all that. So yeah, if you can make it to Dodger Stadium. Logistically though, I will say. That's fair. Getting up up even if you're in LA getting up to Chavez ravine yeah not the easiest thing and if you are at Disney

in Anaheim that's true in Orange County yeah I would make the trip if you've got kids and you don't necessarily know how you're gonna get in and out of the stadium it's not the easiest place to maneuver 650 650 is the Dunbar lumber text line will end on this one Omar on our Budis what we learned I learned that Canuck nation can't even take a week off in July from talking about the team and now we'll be on summer Standby for what the Joshua trade will ultimately bring. I mean, yeah, we set off the top of the show I know a dog. This was your reaction as well But for us doing the show and it like, all right. And there's nothing about Dakota Joshua. We're not like happy he's traded or anything, but

it's like, all right, something to dig into something to really get people fired up and talking. And the even better than that, as Omar says, it's, it's not done. It's really just the first half of a transaction that we expect to see the second half of at some point. Maybe they take it into the season. I did think somebody texted in earlier and made a great point. That was their plan with the blue line last year, right? Like, hey, we're going to have cap space.

We'll see what opens up and we'll just kind of muddle through with this blue line at the beginning of the season. Did not work. Now there's a lot of other things that didn't work. I know it's not going to happen, but if they could somehow pull off a Mason McTavish deal, that would be... That would be sick. ...insane, because there you go.

You get your 2C, Hedl can get to the 3C probably where he should be, ideally. And I don't think it'll happen, because... It's too perfect. Yeah, I think it's unlikely. But if it were, wow. It would be good. That's exactly what they need. And we'll see.

I'll be back on Monday with Halford. Maybe we'll be talking about newest Canucks, Mason McTavish. We'll see. But anyways, we'll have something Canucks related to talk about. Thanks for texting in. Thanks for listening all week. As I said, I'll be back on Monday with Halford. Have a fantastic weekend.

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