Halford & Brough in the Morning - Will It Be The Mariners Or The Tigers?

Episode Date: October 10, 2025

In hour two, Mike & Jason discuss the latest Blue Jays news with Sportsnet's Zach Worden (4:49), as the Jays wait to find out who their ALCS opponent will be after tonight's deciding ALDS Game 5 betwe...en the Tigers and the Mariners, plus the boys discuss the latest Canucks and BC Lions news with radio commentator Bob "The Moj" Marjanovich (23:41). This podcast is produced by Andy Cole and Greg Balloch. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Media Inc. or any affiliate.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The one-two bitch. Got him! The Yankee loose. 7.02 on a Friday. It's cold work, laddie. You're listening to the Halford & Brough show on Sportsnet 650. Halperin'brough in the morning is brought to by Sands and Associates. Score.
Starting point is 00:00:27 A deaf freedom hat trick. No more interest. much lower payments and financial peace of mind. Visit them online at sands dash trustee.com. This is why he's been mad from AJ's, by the way. I wasn't getting back in, so might as well, right? We are in hour two of the program. AJ from AJ's pizza is going to join us in just a moment here to kick off hour two.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Our two is brad to by Jason Homonock at Jason. If you love giving the banks more of your money, then don't let Jason shop around to find the perfect mortgage for you. Visit them online at Jason, down mortgage. We are coming to live from the Kintech Studio, Kintech, footwear and orthotics working together with you in step. To the phone lines we go. Our next guest is the owner and proprietor of AJ's Pizza on East Broadway.
Starting point is 00:01:09 It's AJ here on the Halford & Brough Show on SportsNet 650. How you doing, bud? I've just become the biggest Marinus fan on the planet. Thank you, Laddie. I appreciate that. Hey, and the other thing, Buckner's was worse. Yes. And I only say it was worse because they literally had champagne ready.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yes. There's no question that Buckner's was worse, but there's a funny thing going on here. I kind of use it to illustrate a point that people over time have almost recreated the Buckner error in their minds. Like people thought it cost them the World Series. There was a game afterwards. And then we had people texting in about the situation
Starting point is 00:01:50 that they thought that Buckner was in and then texting in again, be like, no, I got it wrong. Actually, I looked it up. It's not correct at all. But anyway. But also the history of it, too. right? I mean, the Red Sox being, you know, just not having won a championship. They're both terrible.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Speaking of baseball teams not winning championships, tough segue. How are you doing after the Yankees lost to the Blue Jays? You know what? Once it's over for me, it truly's over. Like during it, no one should ever speak to me. And I shouldn't really be around people. But like once it's done for me, it's done. Listen, they go back to their homes. You know? And then, and now, and honestly, I get to enjoy
Starting point is 00:02:29 the game. And now we put our, and now we put our heads down and we push forward. And that's the important thing here. So this, this weekend. Maybe you've got another crushing defeat today with the Mariners with scuba on the hill. That's right. Okay. So let's set it up because this. I hate baseball. This is an amazing, this is an amazing time of the year, even though your beloved Yankees are out. We've got Major League Baseball playoffs all weekend. We got a Kinex game on Saturday night. NFL all day on Sunday. What's going on at both AJ's locations this weekend? We're open and we're good and we're great And it is it's going to be awesome
Starting point is 00:03:02 We got Canucks game Saturday night You got great baseball game And we're tired of eating turkey Just come to AJ's and have some pizza and beer And I will remind everybody Don't leave when the Canucks game is on Stay and watch on the multiple big screens With sound on
Starting point is 00:03:16 AJ thanks for doing this today Bob We really appreciate it Have a good weekend You too happy Thanksgiving everybody Thanks buddy AJ's pizza on East Broadway 325 and 327 East Broadway Visit them in a reminder the best ask us anything today
Starting point is 00:03:28 with a pizza emoji into the text gets a $100 gift card to AJ's pizza on East Broadway. The Dunbar Lumber text message in basket this morning I've had to answer a lot of queries. Carn the Plummer in one of the most amazing text exchanges ever. The one thing he took from the first segment was that I was two inches and 10 pounds off
Starting point is 00:03:51 Cam Scatabo's measurables. Oh, right. Yeah. I was what do you? Yeah. Where are you getting your information from? CNN? I almost replied to Karin.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I'm like, of all the things we get wrong on this show, that was actually almost right. Yeah, yeah. I said 59-205. Karin says 511-215. Okay, he's, to me at least, he's short. Very short. Very short.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And then I, so I did go through the exercise of looking up his combine measurables. He's 5-9. But who's to say? Well, maybe he grew. Maybe he's still a growing boy. Yeah, he's a late bloomer. Anyway, that's enough of that talk. We've got a lot more to get to on the Halford and Breft Show on Sportsnet 650.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Let's get into some Blue Jays talk right now. We don't know who the Blue Jays are going to play in the ALCS. We don't know what the roster is going to look like just yet, but we're going to try and figure that out. Joining us now, a regular member of the show, Associate Editor for Sportsnet.com. Blue Jays writer, Zach Worden here now on the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. Good morning, Zach. How are you guys?
Starting point is 00:04:50 Good morning, guys. Doing well here. How are you guys doing? We're doing pretty well. We are busy. We have had it, the Blue Jays have added a lot to our plate. Normally we'd be 100% focused on the Canucks start to the season. We're practically a baseball show now.
Starting point is 00:05:06 When do the Blue Jays have to set the roster and will Bo Bichette be on it? Yeah, it's kind of the number one question that's out there right now. So they got to make that decision by Sunday morning and they'll have, you know, obviously the workout day is set up for tomorrow. So I think, you know, they sounded pretty optimistic about it the other day. And, you know, it's kind of kind of the same thing that they did in the lead-up to the division series where it kind of sounded like things were trending in the right direction. Obviously, you know, we got video of him running on the field at Yankee Stadium before that game four. So, you know, things seem to be trending in the right direction.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And I think we'll kind of get a little bit more clarity tomorrow about kind of where he's at and what a Boba Shad appearance on this, this DS or sorry, CS roster would look like. And I, you know, I think for him, it's, it's the longer series probably to me would make it seem a little bit more likely that he would at least be included if you kind of feel like there's any scenario that he's back for a game five or a game six or a game seven. You maybe have to kind of take a little bit of a risk and, you know, maybe cut a pitcher off your roster so that you can kind of carry him there. we'll get to the pitching in a bit, but with Bichette, is there a possibility that he could just DH? I think it's the most likely scenario if he's back. I think the defense aspect of it probably is still a little bit too far away for him to kind of get back to, you know, he's just kind of been done the running, you know, the lateral movement I think. And I think the way Jimenez played
Starting point is 00:06:43 shortstop during the CS, or sorry, the DS. And then down the stretch of the regular season, you know, I think that he provided a lot of value there. So I think, you know, if Bo does come back, it's going to most likely be as a designated hitter, which certainly kind of throws, you know, some wrenches into the way that they set up their lineup. And, you know, it might kind of come at the cost of a guy like Anthony Santander and where he kind of fits into all of it.
Starting point is 00:07:09 So, yeah, I think kind of most likely if he's back, we'll see him as the D.H. And kind of slotting in at the four hole. And, you know, just kind of trying to make the difference with the bat instead of, you know, kind of providing the value on both sides. The roster is the same size for each series, right? Like, it doesn't expand. It is, okay, all right.
Starting point is 00:07:29 The pitching rotation. I mean, it was, it's great that the Jays were able to get it done in four, get everyone a little bit of rest. I mean, maybe the best way to do it is Gosman-Yosvich bullpen game. To start the series because that bullpen game went so well. How do you think it will roll out? Yeah, I think the bullpen game certainly gives you confidence that you can go back to it if you don't feel like Chris Basseter or Max Scherzer are necessarily ready to step in
Starting point is 00:08:03 and take kind of a, to give you some length or some bulk in the series. I think, you know, the bullpen game sets it up well. Obviously, Shane Bieber gives you some concerns given the way how he kind of struggled a little bit to end the regular season and then how he pitched against the Yankees. he's there in game three. But, you know, yeah, I think, you know, you're Gosman, you Savage, games one and two, which kind of sets them up to go five and six. I think obviously the way that they've protected you Savage by having him pitch at the Rogers Center. It kind of makes sense for him to go games two and six, which would both be at home, you know, should the series
Starting point is 00:08:38 get that far. And then, you know, you go probably Shane Bieber game three. I would imagine that they're going to give him a chance to kind of figure that out. Game four maybe then sets up to be that bullpen game, and then, you know, if things do really get to a game seven, then you can kind of run back to that bullpen game, or you can run Shane Bieber back out there, or, you know, I'm sure even in any kind of game seven scenario these days, you know, you're going to have all hands on deck. So I'm sure Kevin Gosman would kind of be a part of that conversation. But I think, yeah, you know, the huge development, I think, kind of having the bullpen step up
Starting point is 00:09:11 in that game four win over the Yankees where, you know, Louis Varland looks good, he gets right back on the horse after giving up the home run to Aaron Judge. And, you know, I think with his kind of pitch mix and the way that he looks out there and, you know, him having been a starter just a couple of years ago, I think that there might be a chance that we might see him get a shot starting next year. So, you know, I think he's kind of the perfect guy to start games like that. And then the rest of the guys that they had step up, obviously, Eric Lauer is a very valuable part of any game like that. And I really like the way that they managed it as well with being so aggressive against the top of the Yankees lineup with Sarantanthi Dominguez and kind of making those aggressive moves. what do we learn about the Blue Jays in game four when considering that Toronto sports teams have had some tough times closing things out at times and I know that's not fair to pin all on this edition of the Blue Jays but game three you know it seemed like that Aaron Judge home run threw a little panic into certainly the media and the fan base but also you know people were just looking back at things that had happened with this group
Starting point is 00:10:23 but the composure that they showed in game four I mean surely that's that's got to serve them well going forward because they're going to face adversity again yeah 100% I think you know if you look at what this team did in the regular season and for them to you know be this resilient group that had so many comeback wins and, you know, seems to really return the page well. I think, you know, to see that happen in the postseason gives you a lot of confidence that this is kind of the same team that you saw in the regular season, just showing up for October baseball.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I think, you know, the way that the series unfolded, you know, obviously there were some questions going in about how their style of play would translate to the playoffs. And, you know, obviously it translated very well where they were, you know, putting a ton of pressure on the Yankees, putting the ball in play. You know, I think maybe they hit a few more home runs than anybody may have been expecting in the series. So, yeah, I think for them to me, what they showed in the series was that their style
Starting point is 00:11:21 is going to play and it's going to thrive in the playoffs where, you know, they are just going to be able to make contact and they're going to put a ton of pressure on you. And I think the Yankees played pretty solid defense up until that jazz chisholm error. And obviously, you know, that's kind of the thing that the Blue Jays are going to force you to do. They're not going to strike out. They're not going to let you get out of jams easy. They're going to make you beat them, really. And, yeah, I think game three aside where they kind of beat themselves defensively, it seems like, you know, they kind of are this team that is pretty steady and able to bounce back and be resilient.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So I think that was kind of the part that impressed me most with game four was just how they they were able to kind of settle down and play this, like, really solid brand of baseball that we've seen from them for six or seven months at this point. We're speaking to Zach Worden Sportsnet, Sportsnet.com, Blue Jays writer here on the Halford & Brough Show on Sportsnet 650. If you were able to administer some truth serum to John Schneider and get him in an interview one-on-one where no one would ever hear the answer except for you, who would John Schneider pick to face in the ALCS? Would it be the Detroit Tigers or the Seattle Mariners? Yeah, it's a tough question.
Starting point is 00:12:33 I think, you know, the mariners, to me, are a little bit more of a deep. for team, and I would imagine that the blue chase would feel the same way, and John Schneider would say the same thing. I think the Tigers, you know, they have obviously Terrick Scoobel, but he's pitching tonight, which kind of looks like it would set him up to pitch a game three and a game seven unless they, you know, really pushed him on short rest, which, you know, they could do. But, you know, it kind of feels like they have the one and a half starting pitchers where it's Scoobble and then Flaherty in my eyes and, you know, they're going to have to really mix and match with their bullpen, whereas the Mariners,
Starting point is 00:13:09 have, you know, the deeper rotation with Gilbert and, and Luis Castillo and Bryce Miller and George Kirby who's pitching today. And then maybe even they get Brian Wu back. Like, that's, that's a really formidable group that I think matches up well against the Blue Jays staff. So as far as that goes, you know, and obviously the Mariners kind of down the stretch where we're so incredible kind of running to that division title. And their lineup is a little bit deeper, I would say, as well. I think kind of when you look at the Blue J's starting pitchers being so right-handed heavy, And the Mariners' left-handed hitters have kind of been hitting a little bit better recently than the Tigers lefties have. So you feel pretty good about the Blue Jay's ability to probably handle, you know, a Gleiber Torres and a Spencer Torkelson where, and obviously with their lefties in Detroit struggling, you kind of think that they would be able to get through that lineup where, you know, the Mariners, a little bit more of a thread with kind of the Cal rallies, the Josh Nailers, the J.P. Crawford and the Jorge Palancas, who are just one.
Starting point is 00:14:09 in it well, especially against, you know, this Blue Jays staff that has had a tendency to give up the long ball to left-handed hitters. Who's been Toronto's unsung hero through the playoffs so far? Oh, that's a good question. That's a long list. Yeah, it's kind of the way that the whole season has gone. But, you know, I think, you know, it's tough not to say Ernie Clement when he got the 635 average in the division series.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Obviously, I think Nathan Lucas is a really strong candidate for that as well. You know, he only got the two starts in the division series. I think you had five RBIs in those two games and all of them were really big swings for the team. I think those are the two guys to me that have kind of like stood out all year as like the guys who represent what this team does and how they play like just two guys that battle in the box, put the ball in play. You know, they have a little bit of power. They play good defense. You know, they're just kind of the guys that are there every day. And obviously, you know, seems to be the most beloved guy in that clubhouse too, which is, which is obviously, you know, fun.
Starting point is 00:15:09 to watch and fun to kind of see the way that they interact but for him to kind of have that that big series I think was really cool for him and you know it's the type of guy that you could probably see stepping up and winning like an ALCS MVP if they were to advance and go on just kind of the way that he
Starting point is 00:15:24 is able to catch fire and give you that versatility defensively I think that his value to the Blue Jays this year has just kind of been very very unmatched in that that was really on display in the division series. Things get underway Sunday night
Starting point is 00:15:41 8 o'clock Eastern 5 o'clock Pacific game one of the ALCS It'll be the Blue Jays against the Mariners or the Tigers We will find out the opponent tonight That game gets underway at 5 o'clock Pacific as well Hey Zach thanks a lot for doing this today And earlier in the week And then again last week
Starting point is 00:15:56 There's a pretty good chance given the probabilities that we'll be calling you again on Monday or Tuesday next week But thank you for this one This was great, very exciting for the Jays Hey sounds great guys appreciate you having me on and always fun to jump on and join you guys and have a great rest of the show. Thanks, Zach.
Starting point is 00:16:12 That's Zach Worden, Sportsnet.com. Associate Editor and Blue Jays writer here on the Halford & Brough show on Sportsnet 650. Yes, he did say have a good show and yes, I did say you too. You are that guy at the airport. You also have a good flight,
Starting point is 00:16:25 attendant person. Do you know there's no hockey games today in the NHL? Okay, I talked about this with Laddie before the show. I'm like, hey, you know how many games that were in the NHL on Thursday night? And he said, how many? And I said, 14.
Starting point is 00:16:39 And I said, you know how many games there are tonight, Friday in the NHL? And he said, how many? I said, zero. And I said. But that, but that opens the deck for you because you can watch the Mariners game on one of your TVs. Yeah. And then you can watch Canada versus Australia. 430.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And soccer. Yeah. I mean, it's great. It's the battle between the 25th ranked team in the world and the 26th ranked team in the world. It's Clash of the Titans. Sort of. Australia's pretty good, though. Marsh was speaking quite candidly,
Starting point is 00:17:12 and he's fallen back on the everyone's disrespecting us. Oh, God. Narrative again. So this one was, I guess the Romanian manager, no, I did not see these remarks or hear them, but apparently the Romanian manager said that the Canadian team is full of non-Canadians. And Jesse Marsh took umbrage with that.
Starting point is 00:17:35 And then we played the audio from the well, manager, Craig Bellamy, who accused Jesse Marsh and his coaches of prematurely celebrating after they beat Wales. So Marsh is trying to say, all these coaches in the aftermath of losing to Canada are trying to overshadow the fact that they lost to Canada. They're trying to come up with either, focus on this over here, a shiny bobble over here that you can focus on, or they're trying to diminish the Canadian side. I don't know if I love the approach
Starting point is 00:18:06 I don't know if you need to call other coaches comments back onto the carpet in the aftermath I don't really understand what the end game is you already beat whales He's always picking fights man He's not picking the fight because technically the other coaches Did pick the fights But he's
Starting point is 00:18:21 When you poke the bear He's the kind of bear that is going to swat back right away He will not ignore the poking Right So that's not a great thing When you know you can get someone's goat I'm using all the animals here. I don't love it.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I don't love it. And I really like Jesse Marsh, but I don't love the constant engagement. For example. Yeah, that's what it is. It's just take a day off. Take a day off. For example.
Starting point is 00:18:53 From controversy and accusing people of poisoning your team. I went to the White Caps match against San Jose last Sunday. And in a rare moment, of being demonstrative on the sideline, Yesper Sorensen yelled at the referee. I can't remember what the incident was, but you could see he was visibly animated
Starting point is 00:19:11 and yelled at the referee, and the referee actually stopped the match and came over. Was Yesper wearing all beige? He was. He was all beigeing again? He is the king of beige. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Yes. All right. Which I think is actually befitting of his person. He has a very beige personality. Yeah, yeah. He's just very calm and stoic and he's not loud and flashing. and demonstrative.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So in that moment when he yelled at the referee, the referee came over and you could see Yesper apologized and he put his hand up and kind of said like, I am sorry.
Starting point is 00:19:40 I have lost my cool. It does not happen often. Yeah. It will not happen again. And then two to form. Now, here's the thing. With managers like that, I think sometimes
Starting point is 00:19:50 fans and observers want someone to be more fiery and more dramatic and more over the top because it looks like they care. You know? It gives the impression
Starting point is 00:20:01 that they're passionate like his predecessor, Vani Sartini. But there's something to be said for a manager that can keep his cool in the heated moments because we've talked about this.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Like when things are becoming unglued, sometimes you're looking around and you're like, who's keeping it together here? And it's not always the players, but when a manager can do it, it's important. Very important.
Starting point is 00:20:24 He sets the emotional tone of the team. Very important. And Marsh, the Gold Cup, Gold Cup especially he lost the plot I thought it was too much jumping up and yelling Like there's going to be enough noise around
Starting point is 00:20:39 This Canadian team in the World Cup They don't need unnecessary noise from Jesse Marsh That's a good way of putting it Unnecessary noise So you know what Let's make Jesse Marsh R one to watch
Starting point is 00:20:52 Going far afield here I mean there's no NHL games to watch tonight I could have picked someone from the baseball game You could have picked Scoobel, I guess. Sure. Or Cal Raleigh, the big dumper. But I'm going to go with Jesse Marsh. I'm going to go with the gaffers Canada takes on Australia today.
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Starting point is 00:21:37 going to be a canucks themed hit with moge because one the lions are on a buy this week and two moj was at the game last night on press row big win for the conucks in their opener five one against the calgary flames we'll get into it with moge as we get into the second half of the show you're listening to the halford and bruff show on sports net 650 Hey, it's Jamie Dodd and Thomas Grants. Get your daily dose of Canucks Talk with us weekdays from 12 to 2 on Sportsnet 650. Or catch up on demand through your favorite podcast app. It's the moch.
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Starting point is 00:23:14 We are in our two of the program with the midway point of the show. Bob the Mojjjjanovich is going to join us in just a moment here. Our two of this program is brad to by Jason Homonock at Jason. Mortgage. If you love paying too much for your mortgage, then don't let Jason shop around to find the perfect mortgage for you. Visit them online at Jason.com. To the phone lines, we go, a presentation of the Clayton Public House. It's Bob the Moge Marjanovic here now live on the Halford & Bruff Show on Sportsnet 650. What up, Moge?
Starting point is 00:23:42 I hate fantasy football. Oh, no. What happened? Guess who's on my bench last night. Cam Scataboo, 31 points on my bench. Thank you very much. 92 rushing yards, three touchdowns, all five foot nine of them. What a little fire hydrant.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I love the way he plays. It's pretty impressive. That guy's just like a little human bowling ball. But, yeah, unfortunately, I decided to start Devante Smith at my flex last night. Who got me a whopping eight points. So the thing is, with fantasy football, I've always said this. There's so much luck involved. It's like, it's the slot machines of fantasy games.
Starting point is 00:24:17 So, yeah, I'm in a great mood after watching that performance. Any poker bad beats you'd like to share with everyone? You know, I have the most points in my league, and I'm two and three. I don't care. I honestly, I apologize, but like, so in my men's league hockey change room the other day, all the young guys were talking about fantasy, and I was just like, please stop talking about this. Who won the games?
Starting point is 00:24:44 I admire, though, that you are willing to dive into fantasy sports at all levels, and it shows you are still young at heart. I just do it for the social aspect that's it good start for the connects last night yeah you were on press row what did you think well it's interesting because I wrote a column for black press just talking about 10 burning questions and
Starting point is 00:25:08 a couple of those questions obviously got off to good well several of them got off to good starts last night I mean big thing is for this team this year keep Thatcher Demko healthy he looked really sharp last night made a really big save when it was still 1-0 for Vancouver and Calgary, I can't remember who it was, somebody came in on a breakaway short-handed. He made a couple of big saves when it mattered.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So, you know, he looked good. Of course, you know, health is imperative with Thatcher. Then you look at Heidel last night scoring two goals. There's another player who they have to keep healthy, and, you know, he can contribute. And then LeCarramacchio as well adding a goal. So, you know, all of these are key pieces to the connections here. And one of the things, too, that I think is kind of flying under the radar in terms of, you know, to connect success this year.
Starting point is 00:25:53 To me is depth. I mean, we're talking about a condensed schedule, a schedule in which you're going to be playing three games and four nights, you know, back-to-back games. And as a result, you're going to have players.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They're going to be fatigued. I think injuries are going to take a toll on a lot of teams. Hopefully it will, you know, be an issue with the connects, but if injuries do occur, they better have the depth to overcome some of those injuries. And I think they're going to be fine on the bottom six.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Obviously, they can't lose anybody out of the top six. And, you know, when you start getting into your, 7, 8, 9 defensemen for the Canucks. You're talking about a rather inexperienced group for the most part if you're getting into the Victor Mancini's of the world. But talented and capable, I think. Yeah, talented and incapable, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:33 You know, it's going to be interesting. She's just an unproven commodity, that's all. So, yeah, great start for the Canucks last night. And talk to Connor Garland for a little bit after the game. One of the things, too, like, you've got to realize new system, Adam Putt, and I asked them, I said, you know, are guys kind of still thinking out there? Or does this system lie to play? hard and fast and you know he said
Starting point is 00:26:53 nice you know you're really most systems are the same you have little twigs here and there but he said most of the guys are feeling really comfortable with what Adam foot and staff are presenting so like I said good start for the connects last night yeah I was I was going to actually ask you about the system and whether
Starting point is 00:27:10 or not you thought that the connects might take a few games or maybe even like a quarter of the season to get comfortable playing it there were a few moments I thought last night that looked pretty similar to last season, but we did hear a lot about getting the defense went up in the play and more puck pressure. And I just, you know, what else, I'm curious what else Connor Garland said, because we make
Starting point is 00:27:34 so much of the system. And then sometimes the players are like, yeah, there's a few different things, but hockey is generally hockey. Yeah, and that's Connor Garland. Like, you know, that's what he kind of said. It's like, you know, you have some coaches will do some different things. One of the things we did touch on. And, you know, and again, Adam Foote has harped on this as well, or he's touched on it. And that's the fact that they're going to kind of adapt each game to what the opponent does and try to take away, you know, probably their strength. So, yeah, and, you know, like you said, they don't really, most of the systems are the same. He says, there's tweaks here and there. You said, but for the most part, you're not reinventing the
Starting point is 00:28:10 wheels. So it's just go out there and you have to have something that allows you to play hard and fast, that you're out there, that you're just reacting rather than thinking. And, you know, like I said, the Canucks last night, they got off on the right foot, and it seems like they are playing hard and fast with the new system. MoJ, here you've got a great story from the, quote, real, end quote, opening night at GM plays. It was nice to see last night, I mean, bringing back, you know, Trevor Lyndon and Stan Smeil and Dana Merson and Russ Cortnell and the alums to celebrate the 30-year anniversary of the opening of Rogers Arena, then known as GM Place.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And again, you know you're old, I tweeted about this when you actually covered that game. But what I remember from the real opening at GM Place was a Kinnock Inter Squad game. All right. So it was one of those black versus white games, whatever. And at the end of the night, we went down to the Canucks dressing room. Now, dressing room back then much different than it is now. when you'd walk in on the left-hand side, there was a room, kind of a small room, nothing, it wasn't really big.
Starting point is 00:29:24 It had kind of like old high school lockers, right? And that's where the players would change into their street clothes. Now they would go to their stall, change, you know, get out of their hockey gear. Then they'd walk into this locker room, and that's where, you know, the guys kept all their clothes and all that. And again, that's where they changed. So after the game, we walked down there. and it's like
Starting point is 00:29:45 it's chaos players are running around and I never forget Joseph Moranick he's wearing his pants like his hockey gear and his skates and he says they got me too
Starting point is 00:29:56 somebody during the course of this inter squad game I guess they had left one of the you know where the trucks come in the TV trucks that area down there oh no
Starting point is 00:30:06 yeah I guess somebody had walked in off the street or somehow breached security walked into the connect's dressing room and stole like about six or seven wallets and a whole bunch of money and all of this stuff and pa man selmy who was running the building back then and went over to mLSC for a long time i'm not kidding he's like outside the connect's locker room and he's just losing his mind i mean losing his mind you know yelling at security guys this and that but somebody literally walked
Starting point is 00:30:36 off the street walking in the connect's room and pilford like whatever six to eight 10 wallets whatever it was So that's what I remember of the original opening night, which is an inter-squite game that the Canucks had there. I wonder if it was the same guy that stole my wallet when I was playing open hockey at UBC, almost 35 years ago. Was there a ring of them? The thing is about Rogers Arena today, it's like Fort Knox. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:03 You know, try to get into the Canucks room or whatever. But to think that it was so laissez-faire, so to speak, as somebody could just walk into that room and steal a bunch of wallets out of players' lockers, it's mind-boggling, but it did happen. You know what the trick is? Maybe it's a media guy, though. We're pretty poor.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Yeah. You know what the trick is, apparently? I'm not dead serious. The guys have done the sort of prank videos on this. If you carry a ladder, apparently no one ever asks you any questions. Oh, really? Yeah. You can get anywhere in any building.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I should carry a ladder to the Super Bowl. So I say, he's like, well, he's got a ladder. Let him go. and then just you whisk by security, you can go anywhere in a building. You should try it at Rogers Arena. I like the media. I like the media thing.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Can you imagine like Tony Gallagher walking out with like six wallets. You know what? I can. I can't. I can't see it. Well, I'm going to the Kegg.
Starting point is 00:31:56 We are speaking of Bob the Moj, Marjanovic here on the Halford & Brough show on Sportsnet 650. I'm going to throw our ask us anything right now. We won't end here, but this is very befitting because one, we always do an ask us anything with Moge. We're talking about Media Row,
Starting point is 00:32:09 and we're talking about being in the building. Duncan the chef has going to ask us anything. Morning, gents. I've always wondered, what's it like to be a journalist on game night at the rink, which Moge was yesterday? What can you share? Is there free food? Is there a buffet?
Starting point is 00:32:24 Is there booze? Do people sneak in Mickey's a fireball? What is the time ratio of watching and enjoying the game to be booping away on laptops? Care to take a stab at this one, Moge, given you were of the three of us. You're the most recent one on Press Row at Rogers Arena. Well, they went all out last night with the media meal. It was over the top. They had chicken.
Starting point is 00:32:45 They had, I think it was ham. Then they had the steamer hot dogs. So, like, they went over the top because it was opening night. I mean, you watch the game from, you know, press row. And, you know, you sit there, and I had harm dialed to my right. It was freaking out every time a VanderCain touched the puck on PowerPlay last night. And to my left, Patrick Johnson. And you watch the game and you talk about.
Starting point is 00:33:09 certain things and guys will ask questions and you know we just kind of have some banter about the game and then obviously go down to the locker room afterwards and you can partake in the scrums and all that so um you know it's it's it is what it is it's nothing really special or over the top um it's not like it was the old days when it was a lot more slack so to speak i remember at the coliseum like i'm going way back when i first started they had a mosen media lounge and you could come down from the press because the press box is kind of like that gondola up top and you come down to that lower level where the lounge was and they had a moisten media lounge you could walk in and have a beer in between periods well that that went out
Starting point is 00:33:51 the window when they moved to rogers arena or jam place but that would have been a lot of fun can you imagine like bruff and halford going to the game and like you know having like by the end of the game just like being obliterated because you've been spending the whole time in the lounge Well, sometimes I go down to the concourse and have a drink. Remember we were doing Shotgun Jake? Yep. I had to do a couple of those in the concourse. Yeah, with the peoples.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah. The height of professionalism. Moge, I know the Lions are on a bye week. I guess we're going to be scoreboard watching this weekend, hoping Calgary loses, hoping Winnipeg loses. I've kind of given Saskatchewan first place in the division, but I would like to see the Lions host a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Can you handicap the race for second place in the West for us? Oh, wow. I would probably go Winnipeg 50 BC 40 and Calgary 10 and I only say that because Winnipeg has a tie break around BC.
Starting point is 00:34:56 So that's why I'm giving Winnipeg a little bit of an edge there. But, you know, I could see Winnipeg losing a game. out of the three and then obviously BC has to win their remaining two games Edmonton will be a test of course but when they play Saskatchewan
Starting point is 00:35:12 Saskatchewan should have first place clinch by then so hopefully you know you can go in a Saskatchewan and steal one there so yeah I mean it's wide open right now just the fact that we're talking about the fact that the lines of a shot at second that was kind of
Starting point is 00:35:28 unfathomable maybe like about four or five weeks ago but here we are And, you know, I was going to throw this little nugget in there. I mean, one of the big reasons why the Lions have kind of turned around on defense has been their pass rush. I think they had whatever, 20 or 19 sacks in their last four games. And, you know, so you say, okay, yeah, the pass rush is, you know, it's doing really well. And yet you have a couple of new additions in Levi Bell and Bradley and I. And those guys have definitely made an impact with the defensive line.
Starting point is 00:35:54 But here's the thing, had this been a situation where I think Rick Campbell was still the general manager? I don't even think those guys would have seen the field. And I say that because coaches love to trust players that they have experience with. They're very reluctant to play rookies. And, you know, you don't see coaches going to rookies unless it's an absolute necessity sometimes. And the fact that Ryan Rick Maiden's the GM now, and he can say, no, we brought these two guys in. We're going to play these guys. We believe in them and we're going to play them.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And as a result, you've seen the Lions defense kind of take off since, you know, those two players have been inserted in a lineup. So just one of those little things that you kind of see is the fact that the difference between having a coach who's your GM and then just having a personnel guy who's your GM kind of coming into play. Moge, before we let you go, Sunday 8 a.m., is that what time you're starting the pregame show on Sunday? Yes, Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Tell us about it. Going up against the Jags team, and here's the thing about the Jags doing a little research. I'm actually going to talk to J.P. Shadrick, one of their beatwriters. here in a couple of hours and do a pre-tape for the show. But this is a team that last year went three in ten in one-score games. They've won three consecutive one-score games, including the game against the Kansas City Chiefs. Last year, eight turnovers in 17 games. In five games this year, the Jags have 14 turnovers, and it recorded one in each game.
Starting point is 00:37:22 So here's a Jacksonville team that's playing a lot harder, a lot faster, way more physical from what we understand. Their offensive line has been a story this year. So it's going to be interesting to see how the Seahawks fare against the Jacksonville Jaguars. And, you know, the one thing Seattle does travel well. I mean, I think they're 21 and 6 in the eastern seaboard over the course of what, how many years now. So, but this is a Jags team that went through so many tough losses last year. And this year, they're kind of learning what it takes to win.
Starting point is 00:37:54 And like I said, three consecutive one score wins, including a big one over the Kansas City Chief. So it's going to be an interesting test. It's going to be a really good test for the Seattle Seahawks. Moge, enjoy it, buddy. It should be a fun sports weekend, of course, a fun Sunday morning. We'll do this again next Friday. Okay, guys. Have a great weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, you too, buddy. Thanks. That's Bob, the Moj, Marjanovitch, a presentation of the Clayton Public House here on the Halford & Brough Show on SportsNet 650. It is Friday, by the way. That means us ask us anything. Friday. That means the best ask us anything.
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Starting point is 00:38:50 For the rest of your life, what would you choose? I would choose Coke zero. I drink way too much of it and I love it soda so are you still allowed to drink water in this? It says other than water right if you could be water adjacent I would so you're allowed water
Starting point is 00:39:11 you're still allowed water right so I have a crippling sparkling sparkling water addiction crippling is it just affecting your life big time they're like he's just he's out there like scratching the side of his face looking for a can of bubbly okay I drink so many bubblies are you per day cans per can how many can't does he take it in the can how many cans um 10 what at least how a day
Starting point is 00:39:36 yeah wait a day yeah how much how much is bubbly how many thousands of dollars are you spending on bubbly a month yeah my family's starving please help me yeah um I just can I can't I can't I try to drink like as much regular water as I can I drink a lot of water period but between sparkling and still it's a lot okay it's a lot but so my change choice if I was allowed to plop would be sparkling water and then I would just be well hydrated for the rest of the dentist said it's um sparkling water's not good for your teeth really yeah the carbonation wears it the enamel and I said I'm ready to take that chance doc yeah my enamel I'm ready to ride the wave what about you a dog do you have a drink that if you're only one drink and you're
Starting point is 00:40:20 allowed to drink water yeah I don't I don't have a specific drink to be honest I kind of mix it up question for the group it's a hard one to answer question the group, does anyone drink milk regularly? Yes. Yeah. Like you have a big glass of milk? Only with cookies. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I am almost 50 and I'm still like, I'm going to have a glass of milk with these cookies. It is midnight. Okay. Chocolate milk. Well, yeah, with cookies, it's mandatory. Do you buy chocolate milk with regular milk? No. I buy regular milk and I mix my own chocolate in.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Thank you very much. Look at you. Okay. I don't care for chocolate milk with a little bunny. Yeah. Awesome. Um, I don't care for chocolate. I don't, I never drink milk.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Really? You don't like chocolate milk? No. I don't like the, um, the mouth feel of milk the mouth feel yeah you're one of those guys yeah the residual
Starting point is 00:41:02 sort of residual yeah like the aftermath of milk there's an aftertaste for milk the aftermath of milk the coating it's frothy I'm careful yeah yeah well maybe if you wouldn't have so much bubbly exposing your teeth yeah it's a little bit of different because you have weak enamel then I asked the doctor drink and garnish every day I asked the dentist I says
Starting point is 00:41:21 the milk like enamel he said get out of my office every dentist appointment for howford starts with the dentist going, Dear Lord. You know what? You know what are terrible for your teeth that I saw the other day?
Starting point is 00:41:31 What? Like I'm not suggesting it's a problem for you, but it might be for A dog. Okay. Fishy crackers. Oh. Terrible for your teeth.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Goldfish, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The press, speaking of press box food, remember the press box in Pittsburgh? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:41:45 They had like an 18-gallon bowl of goldfish crackers. Yeah. Just see the teeth? Yeah. All horrible. Yeah. Around Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Just falling out, left and right. Dan from Berkwitlam with an Ask Us Anything. Okay, hear me out. Does being a fan of a sad club team actually make the sports watching experience overall more enjoyable? If you don't know what the sad club is, it's a team that's never won a title and it's been in the market for a long, long time. Dan continues. Having not won a championship before makes it that much more exciting, particularly when you're close.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I think about the Mariners versus the Blue Jays. Yes, it's sad, but the anticipation of winning a championship for the first time adds a layer of intensity and desire that many teams no longer can experience. Yeah, especially for the older fans, things did change for me a little bit when the Blue Jays got over the hump in 92 and won the World Series. You've said the same thing about the Seahawks too, by the way. Yeah, they did change a little bit, although I still felt the pain a year later. Right, but that was more the way that they lost.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Not that they lost the Super Bowl. But once they got it, it was kind of like, okay, well, I've seen that. Although, you know what, it was a little bit different for the Seahawks because I actually wasn't able to watch that game. Right. We don't need to rehash that story again. Can you not be happy for the next generation of fans who have an experience? Yes, it's different, different.
Starting point is 00:43:14 I'm just thinking about me with the Js. I have no recollection of 92, 93. This is all foreign to me. So it feels like it's the first championship. For sure. I'm sure there's Leifes fans and Oilers fans that feel the same way. There's these fans in their 50s. I mean, there's a possibility that there's a possibility.
Starting point is 00:43:33 I don't think this is going to happen, but there's a possibility that we see a Mariners Brewer's World Series. Yep. An all sad club. By the way, on that note, if you had to pick your dream World Series scenario right now, what would it be? Because you're down to how many teams left? There's three in the...
Starting point is 00:43:53 Oh, six, right? There's three in the... I think it might actually be Mariners Brewers. You'd want to see Mariners? Because I want the Mariners to win, and I want to... I have zero interest seeing the brewers and the world series. Is there a way to make Mariners Jays the final? No, no L.Jays.
Starting point is 00:44:07 I think Blue Jays Dodgers would be great. Awesome, and I think Mariners' Dodgers would be awesome. What about Blue Jays Brewers? I don't... I have no interest in the Milwaukee Brewers. I tried to get into that game line. night and I was like whatever like just give me game five I'll watch it I mean I I just I understand that they haven't won and I understand that they're in this
Starting point is 00:44:30 unique club but I have zero interest in them oh I yeah part of it part of his geographical for sure they're very far removed part of it's like I'm not all that familiar with the team the players like you know Robin Yount still there that's that's a funny joke chance for you to learn a chance it is a chance to learn you know a name I remember the other day Rob Deere he was a good one he was the original like This is either going to be a home run or a strikeout. He was ahead of his time. 226 batting average, 47 home runs.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Rob Deere, baby. Him and Jeffrey the Hackman, Leonard. Yep. Who is it, Dave Kingman? Was another one of those back in the day? That's a good poll. All right, we're old. Oh, I have an answer.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Coffee. Yeah, we missed that. I totally missed that. Coffee is a drink, I guess, and I couldn't imagine my life without it. That's my answer. You know what? I would have got to that,
Starting point is 00:45:16 but I needed more coffee this morning. I haven't had enough. Imagine my life without caffeine. Okay. Dollywell is coming up next. Speaking of caffeine, the human embodiment of caffeine, Rick Dollywell is going to join the program. The human monster energy drink
Starting point is 00:45:28 in a Hawaiian shirt. And monster's spelled wrong. Rick Dollywell is coming up next on the Halford and Brough Show on Sportsnet 650.

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